The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 195 ｜ 'The Deep State Won't Give Its Power Back Willingly' ｜ Ron DeSantis ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

00:00:00.000 Leading up to the 2024 election, I am devoting a series of episodes of the Glenn Beck podcast to

00:00:06.300 conversations with presidential candidates. My job is not to help or hurt any candidate.

00:00:12.720 There is no agenda except to ask honest, fair, and vital questions. We need candidates to be

00:00:20.640 crystal clear about who they are and what they stand for. America has a very tough decision to

00:00:27.540 make. These are essential conversations that you won't hear on a debate stage. In 2018, Ron DeSantis

00:00:35.140 was elected governor of Florida by the skin of his teeth and for vulnerable politicians entering some

00:00:41.180 of the most powerful positions in the country. This was not one of the best times to be assuming

00:00:46.720 office. COVID-19 arrived and it proved to be one of the biggest tests of American liberty that we have

00:00:54.900 ever faced, at least in my lifetime. Many people in public office failed that test. This man did not.

00:01:02.960 After the pandemic dust cloud dissipated, Governor DeSantis all but destroyed the Democratic Party

00:01:10.420 in Florida. He was reelected with over 59 percent of the vote. That's the largest gubernatorial margin

00:01:18.180 victory in the history of Florida, or at least for the last 40 years. Ron DeSantis, his track record

00:01:26.520 is clear. His results delivered. But will that translate to the federal level? The next Republican

00:01:34.520 president has not just have to have the ability to fight with not only Democrats, but also some

00:01:41.900 Republicans and a weaponized government that has been unleashed on ordinary citizens as well as the

00:01:49.340 former president. They need to have the ability to effectively operate in that arena, but also have

00:01:56.400 the charisma to unite America behind them if it can be done. Can DeSantis do that? You will decide.

00:02:06.120 Now, welcome, Governor Ron DeSantis. All right, before we get to the podcast, sometimes it seems

00:02:15.040 like there's a running battle between cybercriminals and the government to see who could steal the most

00:02:19.680 from people. Usually, I mean, you know, they're out. They're outgunned, the cybercriminals. The

00:02:25.280 government usually wins all of the time, but the competition is fierce. Take home title theft,

00:02:30.660 for instance. One of the fastest growing crimes in America right now, and there's a very

00:02:36.020 good reason for that. It turns out the most most victims of home title theft don't even know

00:02:41.080 they're a victim until it's way too late and the criminal's already gone. This happens over and

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00:02:54.140 I mean, you might be a criminal. How do I know? All they have to do is just get a copy of your title,

00:03:00.740 sign it over to them, and their house is yours. And then they take out a giant loan

00:03:05.700 because they have the title free and clear, and they take out a giant loan in your name,

00:03:11.820 and then you're stuck with it, and they repossess the house, and you really lose.

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00:03:29.240 HomeTitleLock. Governor, how are you? I'm good. How are you doing?

00:03:43.160 Very good. So it seems to me the Republican Party always likes to fight the fight they can win.

00:03:50.240 I think it's more important to fight the fight that needs to be fought and let the chips fall

00:03:57.640 where they may. Where are you? I agree. I mean, I think you run. Republicans have run saying they're

00:04:03.820 going to do all these things for so many years. Never do it. And then what ends up happening?

00:04:07.980 Not only do they not do it, they don't even actually try because they say we can't do it.

00:04:12.620 Right. And our voters, and look, I'm one of these people watching this. We understand.

00:04:18.040 Man, like if you fight the fight, you don't always win. But man, we want to see a fight

00:04:21.940 and we want to see that. And the results, I think, I think it's typically just fail your

00:04:26.020 theater. And that's what we've become accustomed to. And that's not the way you do it. I tell

00:04:30.640 you, just our experience in Florida, when you do what you say you're going to do and you

00:04:35.140 deliver, man, people come out for you like gangbusters. Right. I mean, it is. And it's not

00:04:39.440 just like playing the one faction of the party. I got 97% of registered Republicans to vote

00:04:45.120 for me in my reelection as governor, which is a record. I mean, that's almost unheard

00:04:49.680 of that you would do that. People appreciate if you're willing to fight for them. And if

00:04:54.160 you show you're willing to fight for them, not only do they come out and vote for you,

00:04:57.500 they'll trust you on other issues as they come down the pike because they know you got 0.99

00:05:01.580 their best interests at heart.

00:05:02.680 So let's say you're president of the United States and we're at a budget impasse like we

00:05:07.600 are once again. First, talk to Congress. They don't have, let's just say they don't, they

00:05:14.360 have a democratic Senate. Talk to Congress and talk to them about government shutdown,

00:05:21.040 what they should be doing, why it's important.

00:05:24.720 Well, we hear a lot of talk about government shutdown, but what I would tell them is what

00:05:30.640 you have done with the debt and the borrowing and the spending, you've shut down the American 0.76

00:05:35.680 dream for millions of people in this country. You want to know why gas and groceries and home

00:05:41.920 prices and all this, why has that ballooned to where people that are doing everything right,

00:05:47.400 these are people that are working hard, trying to raise their families. The American dream has

00:05:51.220 slipped away from them. That is happening because of what business as usual in Washington

00:05:56.360 has brought to them. So if you want to continue on the status quo, you are saying that you are

00:06:02.040 committed to shutting down opportunity and continuing to shut down the American dream for

00:06:07.040 people. So we have to do a different way. We just cannot possibly go in this direction. And I think

00:06:13.160 people realize that what's happened in Washington is now the, is the cause of all the problems that

00:06:19.220 they've had. So the people that are defending the status quo, they're the ones that have caused the

00:06:24.340 problem. Wouldn't you want to change when you see all the, all the trouble you've put so many people

00:06:29.900 through, uh, how, how people are now struggling more than they have probably in my whole adult

00:06:34.500 lifetime, uh, just to do the necessities of life. JFK changed, uh, it was a different kind of president.

00:06:45.300 It was a new generation coming in, um, after a bunch of people that were world war II era. Um,

00:06:54.340 and a new generation came in and he did something after the election that I think is part of the

00:07:00.760 Camelot myth. And that is we're going there, we're going to the moon and we're going to return men back 1.00

00:07:09.020 from the moon and we're going to do it in a decade. Except for Ronald Reagan, Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this

00:07:16.860 wall. I haven't seen anyone say, here's the big idea. Let's completely think differently. What's

00:07:28.380 your big idea? A country that's no longer on the decline, but is on the ascent again. And we've seen

00:07:35.440 what that looks like in the past. We've also been through times where people said you couldn't do

00:07:40.160 well. People had to just accept that we're going to be in decline. Like in the 1970s, Ronald Reagan said,

00:07:45.460 no, that is not acceptable. We are going to do better. I think we're in a similar malaise. Now

00:07:49.900 people are being told that this is the best you can do. Heck Biden's basic program is telling people

00:07:55.800 be happy, uh, that your standard of living is going down. Uh, we don't have to accept that. I mean,

00:08:00.620 we can reverse that decline. Uh, and so I try to think of like, what would, what does America look

00:08:04.920 like in 2033 when the new, the new president takes over after eight years? Um, you will have,

00:08:11.660 you know, strong enforceable borders. That crisis will be over and the Mexican drug cartels will be

00:08:17.840 in tatters. You will have middle income families that when they're working hard, they will get

00:08:22.400 ahead, uh, in the United States of America. Again, you will have woke ideology and the dustbin of

00:08:28.000 history where it belongs. You'll have a military that is focusing on mission first, uh, and that is

00:08:33.580 deterring threats from people in countries like China, which are on the course now to ending up in a war

00:08:39.340 with China, that they will win and that will affect every American's life. And then we will have a 1.00

00:08:44.540 government, uh, that is run by we, the people, not a fourth branch of government that imposes its will

00:08:50.540 on us. We will bring the administrative state to heal. One of the things that the Democrats have used, um,

00:08:57.200 quite well is global warming. Um, I mean, you know, I can see a thermometer, but, uh, I, uh, I,

00:09:06.360 all of the ideas on how to solve things just seems ridiculous. We're gutting our own country by doing

00:09:13.920 this, but the idea again is big, no more fossil fuels, no more. We're going to have new, you know,

00:09:23.200 futuristic electric cars. Wow. Tell me, tell me why that's dangerous or misguided.

00:09:33.440 Well, think about it. Energy is why we've brought people out of poverty more than any single thing,

00:09:39.640 because you can have capital. You can have all the things we have. If we didn't have reliable and

00:09:43.400 abundant energy, uh, you would have many, many hundreds of millions, maybe billions more people

00:09:48.800 that would be in poverty. The best way to lift up people out of poverty who are in and other parts of

00:09:53.160 the world is reliable energy. We have an abundance of that here. Uh, I was just in Midland, Texas. We did our

00:09:59.800 energy rollout. Uh, our mantra is we want the United States to be energy dominant. Why would we want

00:10:06.260 that? Well, it's good for consumers. Americans can go and get gas for $2 instead of $4. And I think it's

00:10:12.280 going to go a lot higher than four. Unfortunately, uh, businesses will thrive. It affects everything we

00:10:17.860 buy in terms of the prices. So it gives people relief jobs, industrial base, national security,

00:10:22.840 though. This is the one thing that we have that would give us an advantage over China, Russia,

00:10:29.120 Iran, Venezuela, you name it. This is the closest thing to a silver bullet that we have. And here's 0.94

00:10:34.700 what I would say about the carbon emission issue. Florida, we've seen a massive reduction in carbon

00:10:39.160 emissions. Did we do green mandates? No, we didn't do any of that. Well, how did that happen? You had

00:10:44.220 retrofitting from coal to natural gas for a lot of power generation. Natural gas is a lot cleaner,

00:10:50.440 massive reduction. We're talking about shooting ourselves in the foot, basically talking about

00:10:56.560 even having like these massive semi, uh, trucks have to be electric, like from the port of

00:11:02.720 California. They're going to have to charge 12 hours and they go 300 miles. Really? Are we going

00:11:07.180 to go down that road? It will be very disruptive to the economy. Uh, but, but here's the thing.

00:11:12.540 Biden wants to force you in an EV. Uh, I don't think that that should be done. We're going to save

00:11:16.600 the American automobile, but where do you get the stuff to do the EVs right now? It's from China.

00:11:21.860 They're mining all the things that go into that, that are critical. So, and that's for the

00:11:26.580 foreseeable future for the foreseeable future. So Biden's knowingly do that. Now I don't believe

00:11:31.420 in an EV mandates, but if you believe that, why would you not want to produce that here? We

00:11:35.300 actually have reserves here and he takes it off market. He doesn't let people go do it. So he's

00:11:40.780 intentionally making us more dependent on China. He's intentionally helping Iran, Russia, and these 0.68

00:11:46.620 other countries. Uh, this could be, uh, the thing that really tilts the national security posture

00:11:52.420 in our favor. Our mantra yesterday when we did the speech in Midland was, I want Midland over Moscow. 0.76

00:11:58.660 I want the Marcellus over the Mullahs and I want Bakken over Beijing. If we fall down on all the, 0.98

00:12:04.040 and go in that direction, we're going to be a more secure country. And on final, final thought,

00:12:09.160 because this is the developing world. You cannot consign them to poverty for what never ending

00:12:17.140 poverty. So they need energy. So how are they going to get that? Most likely is going to be coal.

00:12:22.160 Uh, and so if you were to take the natural gas we have in the Marcellus shale and you export that

00:12:27.920 all around the world, we have enough gas there. We, we could, we would never need energy again for a

00:12:34.180 hundred generator. I mean, there's so much there. You would be able to pull these people out of

00:12:38.100 poverty and the global emissions would actually go down as a result of doing that. They don't want

00:12:43.200 to do that. In fact, they fought us in Florida. When we've gone from coal to gas, the environmentalists

00:12:47.400 say you just can't do it at all. And they also oppose nuclear. So if you want no emissions,

00:12:52.320 wouldn't you want nuclear? No, no, no. They don't want to do that. So windmills and solar and all that.

00:12:56.940 I'm fine. If people want to do that, I wouldn't subsidize it, but I tell you, when we have a hurricane

00:13:01.700 come through Florida and I need to get the lights on, I can't rely on windmills. I need oil and gas.

00:13:06.740 Um, let's talk about nuclear for just a second. We now can make safe, small nuclear plants. Um,

00:13:15.860 but we just will not go down that road. We can make hydrogen at night when instead of turning the

00:13:22.500 power down on the plant, it can run 24 hours a day. You'd have all the supply of hydrogen also purely

00:13:29.140 clean. Any chance that that ever happens? If you're a president, I think, no, I think, I think,

00:13:34.200 I think they, so we're going to clear the pathway for nuclear. There's a lot of problems that

00:13:38.200 government throws in the way of nuclear. So we're going to, we're going to clear that.

00:13:41.600 But I think the fact that there's resistance from the, from the global warming people shows

00:13:45.980 they're operating in, in religion. This is, this is their fighting faith. Now it's not necessarily

00:13:51.640 something where they're going to be willing to kind of just see the light. They, they, they're

00:13:55.540 committed to this and they're going to do it. So yes, we're, we're going to pursue that. I think

00:13:58.960 it would be good. I do think it, I think it would be, it's not as economical now because of the,

00:14:02.800 the cost and the time horizon. We can help with that. Um, I do think that, uh, natural gas, you

00:14:09.100 know, maybe more economical, all things considered, but we'll see, but they should have the opportunity

00:14:13.300 to compete. Well, the government has made it. So if you have a coal fire plant, you're not going to be

00:14:19.280 able to afford to do a coal fire plant. So they're asking you to not only take it offline,

00:14:23.740 but dismantle it. And then they will give you subsidies once you've dismantled it for a hundred,

00:14:31.320 I think it's 110 or 150% of what you were going to make. But oh, by the way, they're telling you,

00:14:38.500 you need an electric car. And so they're taking off the reliability off the electric grid. So when

00:14:44.000 you go to plug into your electric car, uh, you're not going to have the power necessary to be able to

00:14:48.980 do it. Do we even have the infrastructure, the power lines? Not right now for, for, for EV. If

00:14:54.940 you did all these EVs, no way you would know we're going to do, we're going to increase grid

00:15:00.180 reliability. We're going to do some stuff when I get in, but not right now you wouldn't. I mean,

00:15:04.000 Gavin Newsom in California, they, they announced all new cars are by a certain date, relatively soon

00:15:10.340 must be electric in the state of California. Then two days later, they said all EV owners don't plug

00:15:16.720 in your EV because we don't have enough power to get the job done. So yeah, it, it, it, they will

00:15:21.840 produce massive crises in this country. When you start, I mean, we, I learned this, I learned this

00:15:27.980 with the, with the hurricane stuff because like we had hurricane Ian, hit cat five, major storm,

00:15:33.960 you know, it, it did a lot of destruction, but even in a situation like that, in a big area like

00:15:38.660 Southwest Florida, the vast majority of people didn't lose their home, didn't necessarily suffer

00:15:43.300 significant damage where they couldn't get back in their homes, obviously didn't suffer personal

00:15:47.660 damage, which is great. So if you're at that power for a month, then all of a sudden, everything just

00:15:53.600 starts to go to hell. You get the power back on quickly, which we had the quickest restoration.

00:15:57.640 Sure.

00:15:57.860 All of a sudden, everything else goes smoother. You can help the people in need the most and all that.

00:16:02.980 So just imagine blackouts, these rolling blackouts to just be part of American life. It would cause

00:16:09.840 major, major problems. Maybe that's what they want, but it's going to be a disaster.

00:16:14.680 Maybe that's what they want. All right. I got up this morning and I was beside myself

00:16:21.120 because I saw that the president told the border patrol to go down and cut the razor wire at Eagle

00:16:29.900 Pass. There were, I think it was four or 7,000 Venezuelans on the other side of the river and 14,000

00:16:39.480 behind them. Honestly, I said to Ken Paxton, our attorney general just today, when is Texas going to

00:16:49.560 behave like Texas? When are these states going to say enough is enough? What is that point and what

00:16:59.580 should we be doing?

00:17:01.460 Well, I can tell you when I'm president, we've already said we are going to unleash the states.

00:17:06.480 They're going to be equal partners with enforcing immigration law. If someone comes across the

00:17:11.440 river illegally into Texas, Texas should be able to send them back. Why do we need to end up in 0.79

00:17:17.020 this big process where people are going to court and all this other stuff? It's absurd. So they

00:17:21.800 should be able to do it. I think that the reality is, is that if they, if they did more, they would

00:17:26.860 absolutely face DOJ and all this other stuff. Now I still think they should do it. Don't get me wrong,

00:17:31.520 but we'll be an administration that's going to work hand in hand with the states to be able to

00:17:36.300 secure our country. They're a force multiplier for the federal government. People say it's the sole

00:17:40.920 federal responsibility. Yeah. A state can't do something like if we have strong border policy,

00:17:46.020 it can't, a state can't let people in illegally, of course, but if we have a policy and it's not

00:17:51.940 being enforced fully, why should the states not do it? They should absolutely be able to enforce the

00:17:57.300 law and we'll make that happen. Just the first two years of the Biden administration, just the first

00:18:02.680 two years, he has allowed in a population that is bigger than 15 of our United States. Three states

00:18:13.300 combined in one case. Um, and that's not counting what's coming in this year. Just, uh, this last

00:18:21.700 month it came in, uh, the official numbers aren't in, but it's projected to be 230,000 people

00:18:29.560 coming across our border. We're averaging 9,000 per day averaging. I know it's more than that on some

00:18:37.380 days. How much before, I mean, New York, man, I could punch those people in the face. They're now 0.99

00:18:45.480 saying, but we can't survive. Try being Texas or Arizona or even New Mexico. Um, how long before

00:18:54.960 we have irreparable harm done where you have population in your country that is as big as a big

00:19:05.840 state and they're not part of your culture? Well, when I, when I get in, they're all going back. I mean,

00:19:12.600 that's the easiest. How are you going to do that? Well, you know, they've been given court dates.

00:19:16.040 They have paper. So you now have these people. Biden is registering these people. A lot of them

00:19:20.360 are registering with the federal government before they cross the border saying, Hey, I'm coming

00:19:24.900 illegally. I'm going to go on this app and fill out. It's insane. So we'll use that to do, because

00:19:30.240 I think it's important that that's done. You can't, I want a wall. I want all that. But if you aren't

00:19:35.100 going to have a sanction for coming illegally, then you're going to continue to deal with this problem

00:19:39.420 one way or another. So, so that will be a sanction, you know, that we're going to enforce. It hasn't

00:19:43.880 been enforced really for many, many decades, probably all the way back to Eisenhower to where

00:19:48.000 we really had it, had it strong. So we're going to do that. You have to establish that. We'll work

00:19:52.060 with Texas. We'll work with Arizona, whoever wants to help us to be able to get that job done. But it

00:19:56.800 is already done incalculable damage. If you think about, because we did the illegals to Martha's Vineyard 1.00

00:20:02.380 last year and you know, the Martha's Vineyard, they actually had an office in their downtown

00:20:09.120 that was purported to be a refugee welcome center saying nobody's illegal. I was welcome. Now they

00:20:14.620 had never actually used it. So these 50 show up and they, they, they freak out. They call them the

00:20:19.760 national guard. They deport them off the Island, all this other stuff. And it was just like, you know,

00:20:24.840 he was like, you gotta be kidding me with this. So just with that, you know, they said in the,

00:20:30.360 one of the wealthiest enclaves off season, they had a lot of housing. They had all of that there.

00:20:35.180 But the thing was, was people thought, oh, it's going to hurt him in reelection because he's got

00:20:40.300 the Venezuelan Americans down in South Florida. They're going to be mad. And well, guess what? 1.00

00:20:43.940 I go down next time I was in South Florida, I got guys coming up to me, high-fiving me like we're

00:20:49.380 Venezuelan. Thanks for doing it because they're concerned about Maduro emptying prisons and sending

00:20:56.020 people to the border. And I think other countries in Latin and South America are doing it. So you

00:21:01.920 end up having people, we don't know who they are. There's Russians coming in across the border.

00:21:06.900 There's Iranians coming across. There's Chinese coming across. I look at it and say, is there

00:21:11.680 any way possible that we don't have a terrorist attack in the future that can be linked to somebody

00:21:17.760 across the border? No, not a chance. Of course it's going to happen. Of course it is. So it's already

00:21:20.680 been incalculable. We'll do a big repatriation and then stop the insane policies. Like, yeah,

00:21:27.380 we'll do the wall, but you shouldn't even entertain these claims or you're giving them a court date

00:21:32.060 three years. Just have them wait on the other side of the border. That's what we got to do.

00:21:36.960 Do you remember back in the day when you do all the normal things you wanted to do in a day without

00:21:42.240 feeling like you were entirely made out of broken glass? I'm back to that place. I had so much

00:21:50.460 pain in my hands that I couldn't, uh, I couldn't write and hold a pencil for long. I couldn't paint

00:21:57.460 anymore. It's gotten so good for me now that I actually, um, am learning to play the piano,

00:22:03.800 which I would have never been able to do. Of course, I may not be able to do that even now,

00:22:09.360 but it's Lisa's only cause because I have fat fingers and I'm not very coordinated, but at least

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00:22:32.840 you get your life back. It's relieffactor.com 800, the number four relief. What's the most

00:22:39.120 destructive thing? What's your day one? You put in an exec, I'm not a fan of executive orders, but

00:22:46.860 day one, you put in an executive order or you take them off the table. What's the one you say

00:22:54.060 first thing? Well, it'll be, we'll do, uh, we'll do a lot in the first day, but, uh, we will do,

00:22:59.420 uh, declare the border, a national emergency that will unlock resources for us. We'll do the

00:23:04.540 mobilization of the military and that'll happen. Uh, and that plan will be implemented on day one.

00:23:10.400 We'll also do things. And we're going to take all of Biden's EOs, particularly on the economy,

00:23:14.560 throw those in the trash can so we can get America moving again. And there'll be a whole host of a,

00:23:18.800 we're going to nick CBDC on day one, central bank, digital currency, not going to happen under my

00:23:24.560 watch. So there'll be a bunch of things, but I think that border, um, that's a core attribute of

00:23:30.200 sovereignty. You're either a country or you're not. And we've got to get that one right. So

00:23:35.460 that'll be, you know, 1230 or whenever you're done, given the speech, you're going to have to

00:23:39.520 sign that one in. So there are, um, there's lots of things. I mean, this is core tenant.

00:23:45.420 Let me ask you some, can a man become a woman? No, how ridiculous that we're even asking that 0.97

00:23:52.800 question. And, you know, sometimes people will knock me because they'll say that he's talking about 0.94

00:23:58.240 woke and you shouldn't worry about like, like people say, who cares about it? Right? Look,

00:24:02.840 society needs to be grounded in truth. And if you're telling me a man can get pregnant and you're 0.98

00:24:07.660 telling me a man can become a woman, that is not true. Uh, and I'm not going to accept that as true.

00:24:12.440 And I'm not going to be complicit in a lie. And if our society is built on a mountain of lies,

00:24:17.460 uh, even on those issues, which maybe some people don't care as much about, uh, how are you going to

00:24:22.700 have a situation where you're going to have, uh, get things right. So being rooted in truth,

00:24:27.320 the truth will set you free is very, very important. And we've gone off the rails.

00:24:31.700 I think it gives us an opportunity though, to start bringing people into the fold on our side

00:24:36.680 who are like, you know what? Uh, I may have been a D or I may have been an independent,

00:24:40.700 but this is insane. Like we can't have, they don't want their kids going to kindergarten,

00:24:45.180 being told that they can switch genders. Now in Florida, that's not allowed, but in other parts

00:24:49.620 of the country that is happening. People don't want that. And I think in Florida, what we showed with,

00:24:55.100 with, with our big reelection, um, you know, I was running around the state saying this state is

00:24:59.200 where woke goes to die. And we ended up winning places like Miami Dade by double digits, which had

00:25:04.660 been a blue area because, you know, I think particularly blue collar people, uh, they want

00:25:09.900 the madness to end. Yeah. I, I, I, I can't put my arms around, for instance, on this kind of stuff.

00:25:17.660 If I would have said those things, a man can get pregnant. Well, can a man get pregnant? No, no. So, 0.98

00:25:23.280 uh, if you would have said those things five years ago, the left would have laughed at you.

00:25:29.800 Yeah. And now five years later with no new information, no new science, nothing.

00:25:36.080 There's still, I just read a story yesterday in the paper that the, uh, uh, the stone hedge

00:25:44.900 was built by, uh, black skinned, uh, humans, you know, 10,000 years ago or whenever it was, 0.91

00:25:54.340 I, I, I don't know how, you know what color their skin was, but they said they based that

00:26:00.900 on a skeleton of a male. And my first thought was, how do you know that was a male? How do you know

00:26:08.560 that was a male? I mean, well, look, I mean, I mean, I think the thing is too, is like, you know,

00:26:13.660 you may have somebody who's virtue signaling on social media about that, but you will have the CDC

00:26:18.540 will put out guidance for pregnant people. Uh, they are doing that. This is, this is supposedly

00:26:24.760 the top medical, uh, agency in the United States. Uh, and they can't even acknowledge that women are 1.00

00:26:31.560 the ones that get pregnant and it's not pregnant people, but they will use that. So we live in an 0.97

00:26:35.760 upside down world right now. So help me out on, on this. Cause I, I mean, you know, I, I, I have my

00:26:43.840 own briefing every day and I'm watching things, uh, all over the world and every day that goes by,

00:26:50.820 especially this last week has been extraordinarily difficult. Um, I see things that most people

00:26:57.520 aren't paying attention to. Like for instance, I don't know if anybody's heard the story that

00:27:02.420 yesterday in Virginia, do you remember that family that came over from Germany in 2013 because they

00:27:09.540 wanted to teach their kids about God in their homeschool and Germany said, no, they moved here. 0.51

00:27:15.020 They've been fine. They're good, solid citizens, everything. Biden administration yesterday

00:27:21.480 notified them that they have to go back to Germany. And I thought with everything that is going on in

00:27:28.340 the world, okay, you're the whole thing is on fire. And yet you have enough people and enough money

00:27:36.220 and enough foresight to say, yeah, but you remember those people from Germany,

00:27:43.380 let's put the screws to them. They, it's not just what they, we know they're doing.

00:27:51.380 They are laying traps and booby traps everywhere, everywhere. How do you possibly root that out?

00:28:00.140 Well, you can't cede every institution in American life to the left. And I think what the right has done

00:28:06.280 is we'll try to win like a policy victory. And I'm not saying those aren't important, but ultimately

00:28:11.100 that's superficial. And so, and you know, and I try to think like layers deep people complain

00:28:16.040 sometimes about liberal professors. Yeah, of course, but that liberal professor didn't just

00:28:20.420 get there. Uh, there's layers to that going all the way back to how universities are accredited.

00:28:25.500 So in Florida, what we've done is, is we're fighting on all the, at the institutional level.

00:28:30.380 We've, we've gone after the Biden administration on the accreditation cartel. We're going to change

00:28:35.120 that when I get in to say, you know what, you can be accredited without having DEI. You can be

00:28:41.040 accredited without having gender studies. Fact, we're only going to credit you. Uh, if you, if

00:28:46.380 you're a classical, uh, university, the, the way you supposed to be, we've put people on the board

00:28:51.600 of trustees at our university. I have a liberal arts college called new college in Sarasota.

00:28:56.840 Horrible disaster when you got there.

00:28:58.560 Well, it was like left of the left, almost like a Marxist commune. And some of the people

00:29:03.980 in the legislature had wanted to shut it down. And I'm like, that's fine with me. They didn't

00:29:06.660 have the votes. I'm like, all right, we got to do something about it. So we put on a bunch

00:29:09.240 of conservative trustees, including Christopher Rufo from the Manhattan Institute. They came

00:29:13.480 in, fired the president, hired a conservative president, eliminated CRT, gender ideology, abolished

00:29:19.840 the gender studies department and said, we are going to change the mission of this university.

00:29:24.120 The mission is we're going to be the top liberal publicly funded liberal arts college dedicated to

00:29:29.920 classical curriculum, like a Hillsdale college in Michigan. So what's happened is some of the

00:29:35.640 professors have left. Many other professors have wanted to come. The media will sometimes say,

00:29:40.700 Oh, there's a brain drain going on. Cause they'll profile some professors leaving. And I'm like,

00:29:43.960 wait a minute. If a professor of Marxist studies is leaving Florida, is that a drain?

00:29:48.900 Don't let the door hit you.

00:29:50.700 I think it's pretty good. So we're doing that. So we're, we're changing that.

00:29:53.680 At the institutional level. And here's the thing. I have parents across the country that want to

00:29:59.520 send their kids now because there's a hunger for institutions that haven't been corrupted by

00:30:04.820 ideology. Why doesn't the Republican party nationally get this stuff? Because you have to,

00:30:12.240 you will face blowback when you do it. I mean, you know how many like nasty, you know how many nasty

00:30:17.640 grams I get in like the New York times just on the new college alone. Now I don't care. I've got big,

00:30:22.620 I don't even read this stuff, but a lot of them, you know, they don't want to be hit

00:30:26.920 by the media. And so the media effectively exercises a veto over them doing what they,

00:30:33.760 what they, what should be done. I don't let that happen. I mean, we go full steam ahead.

00:30:37.880 I view the blowback as positive feedback, meaning I must be over the target. Otherwise they'd be

00:30:42.600 ignoring me. But that's the thing when you have these fights. So when we eliminated critical race 0.60

00:30:47.400 theory, why haven't more Republicans stepped up to do it? Because what is the left going to do

00:30:51.720 when you go after CRT? They are going to call you a racist, right? They don't like to be called that.

00:30:56.880 And what I said is, you know what? I have the confidence to be able to let people know what

00:31:00.880 I actually did, let them know what we're trying to fight against and let the chips fall where they

00:31:05.880 may. And you know what? People sided with me. Same thing with the Disney fight over the gender

00:31:10.720 ideology. You know, you have the, the, the transgenderism and first, second grade. I mean, 0.93

00:31:14.740 it's insane, but people in the Republican party are like, well, we don't, we don't mess around

00:31:19.600 with business. You know, it's kind of like a chamber of commerce view as to like corporations

00:31:24.080 can just do whatever they want. Really? They're allowed to mobilize subsidies that they'd have

00:31:29.160 inherited from Florida against our parents and our policies. Not on my watch, we're going to fight

00:31:33.580 back. But you know, that demonstrate that, that, that, that creates friction. So I think a lot of times

00:31:37.760 it's just the path of least resistance. If you get into office as a Republican, you cut a few taxes,

00:31:42.820 you know, you, you, you may pair back some regulations, you know, maybe do one or other

00:31:47.640 two things. You can kind of do that. And maybe you don't face the fire. If you start getting in at

00:31:52.560 the institutional level where the left sees that they're losing control, they fight back and they

00:31:57.640 fight back hard. And you just got to have the spine to stand there, do what's right, take the fire

00:32:02.360 and keep on going forward. And that's what we've done in Florida. And it goes so deep. I mean,

00:32:06.960 I think we all know the education has been a problem. Medical profession, the corruption of

00:32:12.360 the, of the medical profession. We had to fight all these people to ban the surgeries, the gender 1.00

00:32:18.800 surgeries for the minors. There was no evidence that this was appropriate. European countries like

00:32:25.840 Sweden had, had reverse course. And they said, no, we'd bring in people like Chloe Cole who went 0.99

00:32:30.640 through it and now she got sterilized. And she says, it's this massive regret and it was wrong.

00:32:35.420 And yet they just plow forward with ideology. Uh, and so that's the things that, that you got to

00:32:41.120 fight. I mean, I think though, that people have seen the elites and all these institutions fail us

00:32:46.820 so many times deceive us that there's no trust in any, in any of these institutions. I mean,

00:32:52.400 what percentage of Americans, you know, trust the, the CDC, probably not very many. I did an interview

00:32:58.000 on ABC yesterday and, um, you know, the interviewer was, was hitting me on kind of, uh, are the,

00:33:03.920 we're the only state would have said, we don't recommend you take the booster, this new Biden

00:33:07.980 booster for, for the under 65. Um, because not enough data, no evidence of benefit and obviously 0.73

00:33:14.640 unclear about harm. Right. And we're the only state willing to do that because they attack you for it.

00:33:18.780 And I said, and I, and I said, look, they haven't proven this as a benefit. And she said, well, CDC

00:33:23.100 says it's a benefit. And I'm like, what about CDC's track record these last few years? Are we really

00:33:28.340 just going to cite them as an authority at this point? No, you'd be better off doing the opposite,

00:33:32.760 given how wrong they were about lockdowns, mass school closures, all these other things. So

00:33:37.460 the fight that we deal with the left is not just about whatever may happen in Congress or state

00:33:42.880 legislation. Those are important fights, you know, the taxes, all this stuff, but, but it is at an

00:33:47.160 institutional level. And as leftist ideology overtakes institutions in our society, those institutions

00:33:53.680 corrode and society starts to decay. That's why San Francisco is like a city that, that is a post

00:34:00.580 war almost. I mean, I went there a couple of months ago and you hear the stories and I would talk about

00:34:06.280 this, you know, in the campaign trail, but you actually see somebody defecating on the sidewalk.

00:34:11.260 You see the drug use happening. You see people get mugged and nothing happens that's going on.

00:34:16.100 And who would have thought that would have been acceptable in America, even five or 10 years ago?

00:34:20.080 The problem that, um, people might have with you coming from a governorship running against a guy

00:34:28.800 who's already seen the deep state, um, you're coming in, you don't have in Florida, the problem with

00:34:36.280 the NSA CIA and five eyes and everything else that are all pretty much in lockstep. We know now that

00:34:44.860 the CIA actually bribed, I think it's six of their experts out of seven bribed them to say,

00:34:55.500 no, this didn't come from Wuhan. This didn't come from the lab. Six out of the seven said it was lab.

00:35:01.900 One said it was natural. The CIA, for some reason, bribed them. You, you have, I mean,

00:35:10.560 I'm reading this book about JFK and the assassination and, and it's not making the

00:35:16.680 connection to the assassination, but it is talking about how tough he was coming in on the military

00:35:24.420 industrial complex. Uh, the way we were fighting the cold war, he disagreed with it and he told

00:35:30.260 everybody and, um, you know, he didn't, he didn't fare well. Well, listen, um, what I'd say is a

00:35:37.760 couple of things. I mean, you know, we've staked out positions. I mean, for example, the former

00:35:41.780 president said the jury's still out on Christopher Wray as FBI director. For me, it's not still out.

00:35:46.220 He's gone on day one. That's a guarantee. Uh, we will have a new director of the FBI. We will also

00:35:51.460 use our authorities, uh, to hold people accountable, particularly in the national security sphere. I

00:35:57.400 mean, I'm not, I don't, uh, concede that the president can't fire people in the civil service. I think

00:36:03.660 you can, I think you got to be smart about how you do it. Uh, but certainly in the national security

00:36:08.140 realm, everyone acknowledges there's broad authority there. You've got to be willing to

00:36:11.880 take action. You've got to have people that are going to go in there, um, who are not going to

00:36:16.260 be co-opted by what's going on. And that is really, you got to be smart all that, but you just got to

00:36:21.440 have that backbone because you know, if you go in there, the buzzsaw is coming after you. Uh, the media

00:36:26.620 is going to come after you. The bureaucracy is going to come after you. But here's the thing.

00:36:30.140 Do we govern ourselves or not? And if we govern ourselves, then we can't take it anymore. Uh,

00:36:37.600 we've got to change the way things are going. We can't have a fourth branch of government, uh,

00:36:43.000 that acts really regardless of the outcome of elections. And, um, and so we're either going

00:36:48.340 to step up and do the job, um, or we're not going to do the job. You know, I've been active duty

00:36:52.400 military. I've dealt with all these agencies on the ground level. Uh, I was a U S congressman,

00:36:57.140 was the, uh, national security subcommittee chairman. I did oversight over them. So I've

00:37:01.020 got a good idea, um, you know, of kind of what we're, what we're walking into and we will have

00:37:05.320 a good plan on day one because you can't wait. You got to be ready day one, all your people got

00:37:09.700 to be lined up, all the executive orders you're going to do. Everything's got to be ready to go

00:37:14.220 and you do. Have you done that? So we have, um, I would say we probably have probably about half

00:37:20.100 of what we would do in terms of broad executive orders. We're going to do more as the years go on,

00:37:24.680 of course. And then we are going to be doing the personnel, not just like who your attorney

00:37:29.860 general is. That's obviously important, but you need two or three levels down in all these areas.

00:37:34.400 We're going to do that. And then we're going to be rolling out our, uh, kind of way to, uh,

00:37:38.440 slay the administrative state. I've talked about it a little bit, but we're going to put it out,

00:37:42.020 um, and do an event where we kind of list all the different levers that are available

00:37:46.020 for you to push. There are levers. Now, look, they're going to fight back. They're going to sue you.

00:37:50.760 It's not like everyone's just going to lay down, but there are a lot of levers that Republican

00:37:54.880 presidents have not been willing to push, uh, because I think a lot of them come in thinking

00:37:59.900 that they can win these people over, uh, or hope that they can win these people over. And you can't,

00:38:04.660 you just got to understand that they have accumulated power. They're not going to give

00:38:08.440 it back willingly. And what's happening in terms of the weaponization of this federal power,

00:38:13.600 the founding fathers would have predicted this. When you have power accumulate without

00:38:18.040 constitutional accountability, human nature being what it is, they are going to abuse

00:38:23.380 their power. That's just the reality. So we've got to bring the constitutional accountability back.

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00:39:44.100 Eden, pure deals.com and enter the discount code Glenn. So, um, I was in the oval office with George H.

00:39:53.420 No, sorry. With George W. Bush 2004. And he was trying to make me feel better about things. You

00:40:02.860 know, if we got a radical in the office and he said, Glenn, you don't have to worry about it.

00:40:08.500 Whoever sits in this chair is going to get the same advice that I got. And they will quickly realize

00:40:14.080 they really don't have any other choice, but to continue. And I left there thinking that didn't

00:40:22.180 help. That wasn't good. No, but I think that you as the executive, you've got to know that what

00:40:29.080 you're getting is likely not the whole picture. So for example, I was a big agitator in Congress for

00:40:34.760 the moving the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. President Trump promised to do it. He initially

00:40:39.480 punted, then to his credit, he did it. But after he punted, I did an event over in Israel, drum up

00:40:44.360 support. But I met with all the state and CIA at the American embassy then in Tel Aviv. And I went down

00:40:49.500 around the table. If we move the embassy to Jerusalem, what will happen? World War. They 0.96

00:40:53.720 all said it would be World War Three. They said it would be the biggest thing. So they were all 100%

00:40:58.060 wrong about that. Think about COVID. You know, Dr. Fauci, Francis Collins, all this cabal that was in

00:41:06.400 there. We're all saying the same thing. You got to go to Bhattacharya from Stanford. You got to go to

00:41:11.960 Martin Kaldor from Harvard, Scott, all that. So you have to know. And I think what I've done as

00:41:16.980 governor in these different things is, you know, I don't accept just the accepted narrative. I probe,

00:41:22.340 I question the assumptions, and I seek other counsel outside people who may just be spouting

00:41:29.320 the company line. Sometimes I think these folks, I think just the group thing takes hold is part of

00:41:34.640 it for sure. They don't want to say that actually you could move the embassy because of the reaction

00:41:40.440 they would get. Donald Trump said in an interview with Meet the Press, he said Florida's six-week

00:41:48.600 abortion ban was a terrible mistake. Protecting unborn babies that have detectable heartbeats is not

00:41:56.940 terrible. It's noble. It's just. And it should be something that anyone says that they're pro-life

00:42:03.420 would embrace. I don't see how you could claim to have been at one time pro-life and then turn

00:42:10.060 around and say that it's terrible that a state would enact protections for life. And we did,

00:42:16.700 I think, what most people were hoping states would do once Dobbs came down. So it's something that I'm

00:42:23.100 proud that we did. It was the right thing. It was based on science and data and evidence in terms of

00:42:29.380 in terms of that detectable heartbeat. And there's a bunch of other states that did similar. And I

00:42:34.100 think that they stood up and stood for life as well. So what you can't do is, especially on

00:42:40.100 fundamental issues, you can't say that, you know, the question should an unborn that has a detectable

00:42:47.300 heartbeat, should they be protected or not? Or can it just be flushed away? And it doesn't matter if 80%

00:42:52.680 of the people think it should be protected or only 20% of the people think it could be protected. It's not

00:42:56.900 a poll question. It's a fundamental question about your values, about what you think. I think this

00:43:02.780 country is based on the idea that we're endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights,

00:43:07.420 starting with the right to life. So when I have that in front of me, that decision is, of course,

00:43:13.400 it's something that's willing that you should protect. It's not terrible to be able to save lives.

00:43:19.700 No compromise.

00:43:20.580 Well, here's the thing. It's one thing to say that there are

00:43:25.100 strategic judgments that can be made about how to advance the cause. I'm not saying you

00:43:31.240 shouldn't do that. In fact, I've welcomed people to have thoughtful ways. If I, you know, Texas is

00:43:36.220 going to be different than California. How do you advance the cause of life in California? You may

00:43:40.220 have to have a little, you have to trim your sails to try to make some progress. There's nothing wrong

00:43:44.320 with doing that. But that's something different than saying once a state has already enacted

00:43:50.360 protections to castigate that as being something that's terrible. And here's the thing that the

00:43:56.580 damage that he did with that is more than just this campaign. There's going to be potentially on

00:44:02.060 the ballot in Florida, a referendum for a constitutional amendment to basically have abortion on demand.

00:44:08.400 The left is pursuing it. And if that passes, that means a legislature can never do anything to

00:44:13.720 protect, to protect life. Do you think they're going to run ads to Republicans and, and, and,

00:44:19.120 and independents showing Trump to Trump voters saying Trump didn't like this vote the other way

00:44:24.560 for us? Of course they are. They're going to weaponize what he said to try to defeat the cause

00:44:29.140 of life. And so it was, it was a really hurtful thing. It was really harmful. And I remember watching

00:44:34.160 his March for Life speech when he went, I thought it was an excellent speech. He spoke, you know,

00:44:39.060 look, he was on a teleprompter when everybody spoke the words he spoke. We're talking about the dignity

00:44:43.440 of every, every life. I mean, look, we're better as a society when everybody counts. And, and, and

00:44:48.160 there, there's a long road necessarily to, to realize that in totality. But when states are taking

00:44:53.580 positive steps in that direction, thank them, give them kudos, welcome that, don't denigrate it.

00:45:00.260 He said that he would negotiate a deal and that we would have basically a national law,

00:45:08.940 whatever that deal was. Isn't that what Dobbs said shouldn't be done?

00:45:14.840 Well, not only, not only that, I mean, what he's basically saying by saying, you're going to make

00:45:19.160 the Democrats happy. Understand this is a political party that will not say whether a baby that is one

00:45:25.760 day away from being born should have legal protection. They will not commit to that.

00:45:29.660 You ask every major Democrat, Kamala Harris knew someone, they, they, him and Haw,

00:45:33.380 they won't say that. So saying that you're going to make them happy, uh, if they're happy,

00:45:38.600 then it's something that's going to be really, really bad. And I think what he was, what he was

00:45:42.420 referring to in his mind is, you know, he would set some type of outer limit that the Democrats would

00:45:48.220 have to agree to, but then any protections within that would be wiped away, uh, from, uh, from the

00:45:54.480 states. And so if Iowa has protections for heartbeat, that would be eviscerated in favor of

00:45:59.800 this federal, uh, which would mean you'd be losing more ground than you would be, than you would be

00:46:05.000 gaining. So, um, that's not something that's going to work. And here's the thing. Um, this,

00:46:10.280 we had 50 years under the Supreme court's, uh, regime where they imposed without a text history

00:46:16.520 and structure of the constitution, uh, abortion on demand that changed the culture in this country.

00:46:21.660 And the pro-life movement's done now more work to, to shift the culture in a more pro-life direction.

00:46:26.700 I think technology and science has done that too. Cause you see, I remember seeing, uh, hearing the

00:46:31.860 heartbeat for my, my firstborn very early on. I remember seeing the sonogram, very, very powerful.

00:46:37.280 And so I think that that's helped, uh, you know, but there's more that will need to be done just on

00:46:41.660 the cultural level for sure. And I, and I totally get that, but man, if people are putting points on

00:46:46.880 the board for the cause of life, you know, we should thank them for doing that. Don't denigrate.

00:46:51.660 How do you, how do you feel about, um, the primaries suck? I hate them because we're all 0.97

00:47:02.180 one. And then for a year, we're all at each other's throat. And I've never seen ever in

00:47:09.320 my lifetime, a primary where the people are saying, please don't do this. Please don't

00:47:16.520 snipe at each other. And yet surrogates. Oh my gosh. Um, the, the, just go, you, your team,

00:47:28.040 Donald Trump team, they're just hacking each other to death. Is that good? Positive? Do you,

00:47:36.200 how do you feel? No, look, but I mean, I think that, um, you know, I was running for reelection

00:47:42.940 and he started launching attacks at me before the midterm and then I win the election and then

00:47:47.220 all this stuff. So it's been incessant against me, um, more than anybody else. I mean, he attacks me

00:47:52.780 way more than he attacks Biden, not even close. Um, and a lot of the stuff is just your mantra be

00:47:58.080 false. For example, he said, Florida mandated COVID vaccines. That's a lie that did not happen.

00:48:03.000 And not only did we not do it, I called the special session of the legislature,

00:48:06.680 got them to pass legislation that protected every job in Florida, including at private companies.

00:48:11.840 I had corporate Republicans attacking me for that. They were saying, well, if a corporation

00:48:16.140 wants you to force someone to take an MNRA shot, they can always quote, just get another job. No,

00:48:19.980 no, no. We didn't want you to have to choose between a job you need and a shot you didn't want.

00:48:23.920 And so we put those protections in. So that's something that more you say,

00:48:26.900 and you see that time and time again. So we have an obligation to respond, uh, in those instances

00:48:31.780 and set the record straight. Sometimes things are so ridiculous that I just kind of laugh at it.

00:48:36.040 And I think most people laugh at it. Um, but, but that's just what we've been done. When I go out

00:48:40.980 and make my case, I'm making a positive case for myself. If I'm asked to respond to something that

00:48:45.940 the former president says, I will do it. Um, and then I will provide my perspective, um, on,

00:48:51.780 on his record or not record. That's fair game. I mean, for example, we have a fundamental difference

00:48:56.640 about how COVID should have been handled. He said he did a great job. He said he shouldn't

00:49:01.400 have fired Fauci. He even gave Fauci an award his last day in office. Now I think he should go on

00:49:06.340 the debate stage and defend that and we can have that discussion, but that's fair game. Uh, you know,

00:49:11.060 I buck Fauci early on. I had Fauci coming to Florida, attacking me. I had the media attacking me,

00:49:16.480 all that stuff. I made myself very clear on that. So there's a difference there. There's a difference

00:49:20.840 too on, you know, draining the swamp. You know, he promised it, obviously didn't deliver it.

00:49:24.840 Why didn't he deliver it? He will argue his way. I will say, well, you know what? You trusted some

00:49:30.240 of the wrong people. Um, you know, these appointments were not good appointments. How

00:49:33.940 are you going to do better this next time on the appointments? And you can contrast that with a guy

00:49:38.280 like me. Who do I have as like surgeon general? I don't have a Fauci clone. I've got Dr. Joseph

00:49:43.200 Latipo. He's out there fighting all this stuff. So the personnel is really significant.

00:49:47.700 You are, your, your numbers were going, we looked at some charts before this interview and

00:49:53.000 your numbers were going up and you were doing really competitive work. Then the first indictment

00:49:57.940 happened and that galvanized a lot of people saying, you know what, this is wrong. And now you

00:50:06.180 have a lot of, I mean, I've, I've never seen a primary this lopsided before. Are you, do you think

00:50:13.640 that that can change? How do you appeal to those people? The national numbers are reflective of a lot

00:50:19.100 of the media oxygen and the media coverage. I was getting a lot of media coverage when we won

00:50:23.600 reelection and all that. Uh, then all of a sudden the brag thing, I think part of it was sympathy,

00:50:28.200 but I think part of it, it sucked the oxygen out of the room. And then there were these other cases.

00:50:32.040 I mean, I got into the race, the end of May, we toured the early States. We were getting big

00:50:36.440 crowds, people were enthusiastic. And then the next indictment came and that totally wiped us off.

00:50:41.040 And it was all that. Um, so that's just, so how do you appeal to structurally? That's just an issue

00:50:45.580 that you have to deal. So, but, but on the ground in Iowa and stuff, we're down there,

00:50:49.560 we're doing that. We're going to take the case directly to people. I mean, how do you appeal?

00:50:53.820 You say, uh, the left is weaponizing government, um, against people they don't like, not just

00:50:59.000 against Donald Trump, also against Catholics, against parents, against pro-life activists

00:51:04.440 on and on down the line, uh, what they've done. And so the question is, is how do you deal with that?

00:51:09.960 How do you, how do you actually fix it? Who's the best position to be able to do that?

00:51:13.460 And I'm the best position to be able to do that because you've seen me do things like that in

00:51:17.620 Florida. I'm the only elected official in America that's ever removed Soros backed prosecutors from

00:51:23.620 office. I've removed two in Florida, one in Tampa, one in Orlando. We're not just sitting there

00:51:28.660 complaining. We're doing it. I know where to come in, how to deal with FBI, how to deal with DOJ,

00:51:34.520 how to grant clemency for Donald Trump, uh, and these other people. I will be in a position to do that

00:51:41.100 very, very effectively. So if you want to end the weaponization, if you want to defang the

00:51:46.420 administrative state, you know, I'm the best vehicle to be able to get that done.

00:51:51.800 One of the things the next president has to do is restore the American values, the American work

00:51:59.020 ethic, the hope that we all had of a better tomorrow. We have to start making things again

00:52:04.960 here in America. And the entrepreneurs that are currently doing it are taking huge risks because

00:52:10.280 it's harder. It's more expensive usually. Um, and you have to train people to do it.

00:52:16.540 There's a certain level of pride that comes from knowing that you made it in America or that you're

00:52:22.040 buying American. So here's what I'd like you to do. Grip six is this great company. They started just

00:52:30.140 by making, I think a belt. And then they went from a belt to wallets. Now they're into all kinds of

00:52:37.260 different things, including socks and, uh, the socks, for example, I mean, it's even American wool.

00:52:43.940 It's coming off American sheep and it's cleaned by American, um, uh, uh, manufacturers who then weave 0.91

00:52:51.900 it into socks. It'll keep your feet warm in the winter and cool in the summer, all in American business,

00:52:58.080 American made products with American labor. I want you to go to grip six.com slash Beck right now.

00:53:05.040 It's grip six.com slash Beck. Let's talk about a couple of other things. I want to talk about the

00:53:12.120 unions, um, and, uh, particularly the auto workers. Um, but I also want to talk to you about Ukraine

00:53:19.220 because a lot of people say you're a little slippery on Ukraine. I don't think so. I mean,

00:53:24.960 what happened was, you know, I said, you know, it's, um, it's something that, um, you know,

00:53:29.100 no blank check. Uh, it's not a, it's not a vital interest where we'd have ground troops under any

00:53:33.740 circumstance. It's a secondary or tertiary interest. And the goal should be to bring it to

00:53:38.160 a conclusion, uh, so that we don't have wars breaking out in Europe or we don't have this

00:53:42.360 going on for 50 years. Uh, and that's pretty much where I've been. People said, Oh, he said

00:53:46.600 Vladimir Putin's a bad guy. So that must be a change because wouldn't he, if Putin's bad,

00:53:52.460 don't you have to support a never ending blank check? No, there's a different question between

00:53:56.240 Putin being a bad guy, which he is Russia being the aggressor, which they are, but then our national 0.63

00:54:01.760 interests and the risks of us getting enmeshed in this. I'm the only guy running that's actually

00:54:06.320 put on the uniform. I was in Iraq at a time where, you know, things weren't great in places like

00:54:11.360 Fallujah and Ramadi. And I'm very, uh, conscious and sensitive to doing things where there's not a

00:54:17.480 clear mission where we don't know what exactly we're trying to accomplish. Biden is still not

00:54:22.300 articulated. He just says as long, as long as it takes. So as president, my goal would be to end

00:54:26.900 it, not to escalate it. Uh, I think we can do that, but you're going to have to use other levers

00:54:31.720 that Biden has not been willing to do. For example, on the energy, he is basically funding both sides

00:54:37.320 of the conflict. Correct. Our energy policy helps Russia helps Iran. He gave 6 billion to Iran just

00:54:43.840 now. Iran is helping Russia in the conflict. China is helping Russia in the conflict. And then people

00:54:49.900 will sometimes say, well, um, you know, because it's borderland between Russia and Ukraine, like

00:54:55.800 why should America care? And what the DC people will say is, well, China is watching this. They're

00:55:00.460 they're going to see, and that may cause them what they do with Taiwan. I actually think what China

00:55:04.460 wants, they want to see a long protracted quagmire because we're running low on ammunition in the

00:55:10.360 West. Stockpiles are diminishing. Uh, Russia, if they're in it, Russia will get weakened too, but China 0.91

00:55:16.560 wants a weak Russia because that means Russia's a client state of China because, you know, China 0.71

00:55:21.900 and Russia, they, they get along, but then they don't or whatever. This China would be, or Russia 0.97

00:55:26.480 would be dependent on China in that situation. So I think it's in our interest for this to come 1.00

00:55:30.660 to an end as expeditiously as possible. All that money. Well, they're paying bureaucrat salaries

00:55:36.740 for Ukrainian bureaucrats, no accountability on any of this, paying pensions for Ukrainian bureaucrats.

00:55:42.380 I mean, that is something that's totally unacceptable to be doing. Joe Biden impeachment, 30 seconds.

00:55:49.960 Yeah. I mean, I think that the corruption is real. I think they should be, should be inquiring and

00:55:54.000 investigating, but you know, he should be impeached for the border. He is derelict in the performance of

00:56:00.780 his duties. He took an oath to ensure that the laws of this country were faithfully executed and he has

00:56:07.720 flagrantly violated his oath of office. That is definitely an impeachable offense. And so I think

00:56:14.220 on that dereliction of duty, that's the cleanest case that they should do. I do think they should

00:56:19.520 be getting the information on the corruption. And I think there is real corruption with the Biden

00:56:23.560 family. Is it a problem if Joe Biden didn't get any of the money, but they were selling the illusion

00:56:29.560 and his family was enriched, but he wasn't. Well, yeah, I mean, I know. Yeah, of course,

00:56:35.100 there's a problem with that. And I doubt that it would be something that Biden would just be an

00:56:39.000 innocent bystander to and would never do it. I mean, after all, who's the big guy that they're

00:56:43.060 kicking up the money to? When you saw Poland, if you did see Poland said yesterday, we're done.

00:56:50.040 We're not going to supply Ukraine anything because their farmers are being slaughtered by the grain

00:56:57.120 prices because, yeah. Is that just a political move on Poland's part until the prime minister is

00:57:05.100 elected? Is that real? I don't know. I think I think it's I think it's it's it's maybe too soon

00:57:10.040 to tell. But, you know, Poland has been one that they have been willing to mobilize more power because

00:57:14.840 they have history with Russia. So it's something that they're concerned about in terms of what's going

00:57:19.680 on there. But I look at it just practically. And if we were here five years ago, you know, I would

00:57:25.360 have said and I think it may be still true. His ambitions Vladimir Putin would be to make more

00:57:29.920 incursions into Europe. But I think you and I probably would agree or would have thought that 0.89

00:57:33.480 they had much more firepower than what they've shown to be able to have. They don't have the

00:57:37.740 ability, I think, to make successful incursions into a NATO country. Now, we're bound by that. And I

00:57:43.240 think that but I just don't see that. I mean, I think that they've suffered a lot of losses with the

00:57:48.600 Ukraine situation. But I do think how Zelensky is acting, I think, is ruffling feathers in places

00:57:55.300 like Poland. I mean, he's at the U.N. lecturing about climate change. I mean, like, you know,

00:57:59.700 really, is that really what you should be doing? Give me a break. Article five of the NATO treaty.

00:58:07.220 Some people say that just means we go to war. The Congress doesn't have to speak.

00:58:12.680 Does Congress have to vote? No, I think Congress would have to.

00:58:15.340 I think that if that happened, I think they likely would do that. But what I would say on that is,

00:58:20.520 what is the mission of NATO? I mean, I think NATO was was fine for the Cold War. It made sense.

00:58:25.840 You know, now we're in a situation where a lot of those countries aren't doing their fair share in

00:58:30.460 terms of their defenses. And yet we're supposed to provide blanket security for that, where our

00:58:36.240 interests may diverge around the world. I think we all kind of want to just see a peaceful Europe for

00:58:40.800 sure. But what about China? Some of those European countries are not eye to eye with us on what we

00:58:45.700 should be doing on China. A lot of them want to appease China. So I think they need to be required 0.57

00:58:50.040 to do two, two and a half percent of their GDP to do that. And I think that should be the threshold

00:58:55.180 where Article five would apply. If you're not willing to do your fair share, then you're basically

00:59:00.140 a free rider and what we're just supposed to come to your rescue. So I think Trump was right to call

00:59:04.880 them out on that. And I think we need to move the ball forward going forward. As president, would you

00:59:09.620 say to make peace, Ukraine is never going to be a part of NATO? Oh, yeah. I don't think I don't

00:59:16.140 think NATO membership is in is in our interest. To me, all that would do was add more obligations to

00:59:22.500 us. And so I think if you're adding more obligations, then what are the benefits that we're

00:59:27.720 getting in return? And in that case, you know, I don't know what the benefits necessarily would be.

00:59:32.560 And I would have noted I'd note the people that are more interested in having Ukraine

00:59:37.300 in NATO are also the ones that say Putin is going to attack into NATO. So clearly that I

00:59:44.860 mean, if the NATO membership was to deter him, they're saying out of both sides of their mouth

00:59:49.780 that it wouldn't even deter him to begin. Right. With Ukraine, would you say no more, no more 0.91

01:00:00.040 equipment, no more money unless you sit down at a negotiating table and have a serious talk about

01:00:08.780 peace? Oh, yeah. Anything that we would do would be us using leverage to bring it to a conclusion.

01:00:15.540 So no blank check, nothing to where we're just doing. We want to bring it to a conclusion. And

01:00:21.740 whether we use any of our resources to do it or not, hopefully you wouldn't have to do that.

01:00:26.080 But if you do, it's going to be contingent on it, bringing it to the conclusion that we want to see.

01:00:31.700 We just we have to come to terms with if you believe I believe China is our top threat.

01:00:36.400 I believe we need to deter their ambitions in the Indo-Pacific. We do not have the hard power we need

01:00:42.840 in the Indo-Pacific right now. We're not going to be able to provide blanket security to Europe and do

01:00:48.000 what we need to do to deter China. It's in our interest that that conflict in Europe come to a 0.97

01:00:52.620 conclusion. European countries step up and do more and that we take the leadership role in being the

01:00:58.740 bulwark against Chinese expansion in Asia. If they expanded into Taiwan, would you? 0.80

01:01:04.380 Well, the whole policy would be to deny them the ability to seek that. Well, I think if we got in,

01:01:11.260 we would be able to to create a reality on the ground where they would where they would not do it.

01:01:16.180 I mean, look, Taiwan's an ally. It's very strategically important. It's not just about semiconductors.

01:01:20.620 It's about China taking that and launching that to really dominating the region. That's going to be 0.72

01:01:26.420 the most important economic region in the world and how that would then impact the United States

01:01:31.880 of America. If China surpasses us with economy and military strength, even without a war, 0.67

01:01:36.160 that will impact every American family in one way or another. I mean, our way of life would change.

01:01:41.100 So I've only got a few minutes left, so I'm going to ask you one question,

01:01:44.420 but maybe I can invite you to be on the radio show to talk about what the Treasury released yesterday

01:01:49.640 on. Now it's no longer ESG. It's I can't remember investment in sustainability partnerships.

01:02:00.380 So they've taken ESG and just relabeled it and they're still going. And I'd love to hear your

01:02:06.320 thoughts on that. But I want to ask you about the auto workers.

01:02:10.260 I came from a split family on unions. Half my family was against unions. They were hardworking

01:02:18.080 people. The other half worked at Boeing and they were very union. And I've always seen unions as

01:02:26.200 something that is. When when something's out of whack, you need to have the equal and opposite

01:02:33.220 so you can conflict in all things so you can find that balance. Corporations sometimes just

01:02:40.040 gobble and eat people. And for instance, Apple in China. Then you have the unions that just go out 0.89

01:02:47.840 of control. Ford is dying. Ford is dying. They've two billion dollars behind. They can't put out their

01:03:00.660 trucks in time because they're building all these EVs. The people who are, you know, the workers that

01:03:08.600 their job is gone. If we do this EV thing, it's all gone. How do you as president? How would you frame

01:03:18.220 this fight? And what would what could you or should you do? Well, with the policy you just did,

01:03:26.220 we will reverse. That is bad for both Ford and the auto workers. It's bad for both. They people

01:03:32.440 don't want those EVs and the numbers that the the government's forcing them to do. You know,

01:03:37.100 I used to drive a Ford F-150. I would not want that to be an EV. I need you. And that's what

01:03:41.500 consumers want. I tried to buy an F-350 just this summer. It's six to 18 months out for delivery.

01:03:51.160 Oh, my goodness. Yeah. When Ford can't make their number one product, there's a problem. So we're

01:03:55.300 going to we're going to rip up Biden's EV mandates. We articulated that in our speech in

01:03:59.120 Midland. And we're going to save the American automobile that will save the American automobile

01:04:04.560 industry where they will be able to be profitable again. And I have no no problem with them working

01:04:11.000 out how they want to work it out. But right now, government is causing these losses. I think it's

01:04:15.940 only going to mount. And I want us to be able to succeed. These are good jobs. I mean, these are jobs

01:04:20.840 that that'll be very meaningful for families. Why would you want the government coming in and

01:04:25.320 mucking that up? Governor DeSantis. Thank you. Thank you.

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The Glenn Beck Program - September 23, 2023

Ep 195 ｜ 'The Deep State Won't Give Its Power Back Willingly' ｜ Ron DeSantis ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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