The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 196 ｜ Why Conservatives Should Develop Their Own 'Indoctrination Centers' ｜ Liz Wheeler ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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00:02:30.160 Welcome. How are you? I'm good. Thanks for having me. Yeah. I will tell you, you had me

00:02:37.300 at the Woodrow Wilson bashing. I mean, anyone who can bash Woodrow Wilson, and you're one of the best

00:02:44.820 ones, is all right in my book. I want to talk to you about him as we go through. There's so much

00:02:52.940 to learn in your book, and you've done such a great job of tracking it from the beginning.

00:02:59.740 And once you understand the roots, and you see the real evil root, it's pretty easy to see

00:03:11.120 where we're going and what the real objective is, isn't it? It is. One of the things that would

00:03:17.860 constantly hit home to me when I was writing this book, you know, late nights of researching for a

00:03:22.500 year, is once you see this stuff, you can't unsee it. And you see the manifestation of it

00:03:29.640 everywhere. And one of the things I think that conservatives forget, because we so often

00:03:35.460 accuse, and rightfully so, the mainstream media and Democrats of lying, we dismiss all of their

00:03:40.680 fake news and their false narratives, is they actually, at the same time, do tell us exactly

00:03:45.720 what their goal is and how they're going to accomplish it. And we forget to believe them.

00:03:49.600 I know. It's so incredible, especially lately, how clear it all is. I mean, they do tell us every

00:04:00.020 step of the way exactly what they're going to do. And then people claim it's a conspiracy.

00:04:05.340 No, they just said that. And with history, you know, they actually mean it. So who are we facing?

00:04:12.540 What is attacking us right now?

00:04:15.140 Particularly what's attacking our children are the forces of Marxism. And I don't mean that just

00:04:21.520 in the philosophical way. I mean, actual Marxists, people who believe that we should overthrow

00:04:27.640 capitalism, people who believe that we should impose communism on the United States, people who

00:04:32.900 believe in the downfall of Western civilization, are using our children to try to cause chaos in our

00:04:39.940 society, to destroy our civil institutions, which are our cultural institutions, in order to destabilize

00:04:47.660 the entire rule of law and fabric of the United States of America, to then be able to have access

00:04:54.540 to toppling the governmental institutions.

00:04:56.800 Give me a name in the most obvious example of that.

00:05:00.080 Sure. So one of the things that I did in my book is I identified the origin of the ideas. So basically,

00:05:06.000 Marxists that are long dead. I said, these are the guys that coined this. These are guys that

00:05:10.380 designed the strategy. It's a little hard, I think, to feel a concrete connection to that because

00:05:14.680 Paulo Freire, for example, he's been dead for generations, but his ideas are being propagated by

00:05:21.260 people alive and well today, people and organizations. So one of the most obvious examples that's been in

00:05:27.000 the news lately is the president of the American Library Association, Emily Drabinski, who she's in the

00:05:33.320 news because she's defending pornographic books, being in children's school and material that

00:05:39.200 indoctrinates in critical race theory. But the day that she won that position in the American

00:05:44.280 Library Association's, the top position, she tweeted, who would have thought that a Marxist could win

00:05:50.420 this position? It's not me using this word to describe her based on her ideology. It's her admitting

00:05:56.020 what her ideology is. And she's an incredibly powerful person. The president of the American Library

00:06:01.380 Association makes decisions about what our children are going to be reading if they go to public

00:06:06.240 schools. And one of the things I track in my book is it's not just her in and of herself. The reason

00:06:12.780 that she won that election is because Randy Weingarten threw all of her political support behind

00:06:18.220 Drabinski's campaign.

00:06:19.420 I mean, I see this and I see they are destroying absolutely everything. And, you know, I talk to

00:06:31.720 people all the time from all sides and they're saying a lot of the same things lately. And that is

00:06:38.700 just got to burn the whole thing down. I'm like, no, that's a, this took a long time. You know, our,

00:06:46.760 our, one of our main, uh, attraction to foreign, uh, investors, business, our foreigners is that

00:06:57.200 we're stable. And we've had a constitution, the average constitution lasts 17 years. Okay. We're

00:07:05.040 stable. You don't just throw this away. So what is it that these people like when Randy Weingarten,

00:07:14.060 what is she seeing the future? What does she see is coming that what are they building?

00:07:21.500 Well, I assume with Randy Weingarten, she's tipped her hand. She, while she probably wouldn't admit

00:07:26.800 to being a Marxist, she embraces the Marxist ideology. But one of the things you said is

00:07:31.240 actually very interesting because it's not just the left that is saying, burn it down. There are

00:07:36.340 people on the right who think that our system has failed because we exist in this moment of cultural

00:07:41.660 chaos where, you know, trans ideology is so prevalent. Critical race theory is everywhere.

00:07:47.300 DEI is in every corporate boardroom. Everything's governed by ESG. It's a, it's quite a time to be

00:07:52.680 alive. It is a lot of Republicans are saying, well, maybe there's something wrong with our system. If it

00:07:56.660 allowed us to get to this point, maybe we should totally retool. And the second half of my book is a

00:08:02.300 critique of the Republican party, not, not Democrats. The first half is talking about the left, but the

00:08:07.160 Republican party made a very critical mistake 50 or 60 years ago in how they fought back against this

00:08:14.700 because this cultural chaos we're living in right now is not new. This is, this is not something that

00:08:18.900 we just discovered during COVID. Our eyes might've been opened because we saw it for ourselves, but

00:08:23.800 this has been planted in our institutions since essentially the 1960s or before, but Republicans

00:08:30.180 refused to see that. We had our head in the sand while the Marxists were subverting and infiltrating

00:08:36.220 and plotting to overthrow these institutions. And the response from the Republican party was to

00:08:41.800 think of the United States. You and I sitting here, we think of the United States as a free country,

00:08:46.060 but the Republican party looks at this idea of a free country and they define freedom as the

00:08:52.360 ultimate end. This is what we're working towards. Freedom is this ultimate morality. And that's not

00:08:58.500 correct. Freedom as defined in our constitution is the means to something greater. But the Republican

00:09:04.400 party, when we embraced this idea that freedom is the ultimate end, it led us to a position where

00:09:10.300 when David French said, drag queen story hours, a blessing of Liberty. Well, if these grown men who 0.74

00:09:15.540 are dressed up in sexual as sexualized versions of women, gyrating in front of children, freedom's the 0.83

00:09:19.940 ultimate end. And they have the freedom to do that. There must be some kind of inherent morality to

00:09:24.160 that. You and I know that that's grotesque and evil and there's not. So freedom must be the means to

00:09:29.200 something greater. And I challenge conservatives and Republicans to grapple with this question.

00:09:34.100 Well, what is the something greater? What do we want our society to be? What does it mean when we

00:09:38.720 say we are, we are ordering our society towards human flourishing and the Republican party has led us.

00:09:46.020 I want to say towards libertarianism, but I don't say that with animosity. I think we all had

00:09:49.680 libertarian leanings when we were younger. But they've led us towards this place where we fall and

00:09:56.100 pray to the idea that there can be neutrality in institutions. So Republicans have pulled back

00:10:01.720 any semblance of identifying what's right or wrong in our legislative efforts or in our cultural

00:10:07.100 efforts just to be fair so that everybody's values are respected. And meanwhile, the Democrats swoop in

00:10:12.100 and they codify their values and their beliefs. So if we are going to actually recapture these

00:10:18.220 institutions, protect our kids, stop the insanity that's happening in our country, we have to think

00:10:23.480 as a movement and as a party in a much more philosophical and broader sense about what our goal is.

00:10:30.620 So I want to go back to that. But how much, for instance, I'm sorry, teachers, but if you're a member

00:10:41.020 of the teachers union, you're part of the problem. You can't look at me and say, no, I am fighting.

00:10:47.560 No, you're not. You're sending part of your money to those guys. You at some point, you have to get

00:10:55.120 up and say, this is evil. I can't have any part of it. How many of the people that are involved in

00:11:03.000 this? What's the percentage do you think of? They know what they're doing. They're true believers

00:11:08.040 and they're marching towards that. And then the percentage of those who are like, I don't,

00:11:16.480 I just don't want to get, lose my job and I'm not really looking. And then people who are just

00:11:21.440 absolutely blind. Well, for the general public, I would say you can think of it like a cult setup,

00:11:27.120 if you will. I know that's a funny analogy, but in a call, there's like the person or the people at

00:11:31.520 the top who know exactly what they believe and they know that it doesn't work. They just know that

00:11:35.100 it'll serve them. Then like the level down from that, you have maybe the academic class who

00:11:39.820 actually think, believes those ideas. They believe that it will work. And then the step down below

00:11:44.380 that is, is the water carriers, the people that don't understand any of the philosophical stuff.

00:11:48.820 They're just harnessed to be the mouthpieces. I think in our country, the majority of leftists,

00:11:53.180 even those who have bought into some wokeness are probably water carriers. They're probably not

00:11:57.440 committed Marxists, maybe not teachers in all the teachers in schools with the exception of the

00:12:03.320 blue haired teachers on TikTok and, and those folks. But I think most of our country is not

00:12:08.440 corrupted. Most of the people in our country aren't corrupted with Marxism because we wouldn't

00:12:12.740 have this outcry or this backlash from parents about critical race theory and about transgender

00:12:17.960 ideology. If these people were committed Marxists, because a lot of times people, even if they're not

00:12:22.920 particularly political, maybe even if they're not particularly religious, they can still just based

00:12:27.640 on human reason can point to something and say, wait a second, that's bad and evil to tell a white

00:12:32.040 child that they're racist just because they're white. And it's bad and evil to tell a black 0.98

00:12:35.540 child that they're oppressed just because they're black. That's what we've seen in the last two 0.98

00:12:39.320 years. Parents who aren't conservative activists who are saying, I know that's bad. I can't necessarily

00:12:44.460 tell you the origin of it, but I don't want my child taught that. Those people aren't committed

00:12:48.600 Marxists, even if they voted for Democrats, even if they have they, them in their profile,

00:12:52.400 they just don't know exactly what they're doing.

00:12:54.540 break the spell of that. I mean, I keep, I keep wondering every day I read something

00:13:00.760 and maybe it's just because I pay attention to the news, but I read something. I'm like,

00:13:05.300 how do people, for instance, drag queen story hour eight years ago, five years ago, everyone,

00:13:15.680 everyone would have said, no, that's bad. Normalizing pedophilia. No, that's bad.

00:13:23.720 Getting children sexualized five years ago. No, that's bad. There's been no new scientific 0.92

00:13:30.720 information whatsoever. It has only been say it or else. What is it going to take for people to wake

00:13:40.360 up or are they just afraid? Some people are afraid. They don't want to lose their jobs. They

00:13:45.280 don't want to lose their social position. I would say the practical solution is twofold. First of all,

00:13:50.680 when parents are told that critical race theory or the principles of it belong to a Marxist theory,

00:13:56.500 they're like, I knew I was right. I knew I saw something that was evil. So part of it's just

00:14:00.320 our efforts and, you know, screaming from the rooftops, guys, look at what's happening. See

00:14:05.440 what the plan is. Listen to their own words. And that's very effective. The other part of this is

00:14:10.420 conservatives for a long time have misunderstood the idea of limited government. We think of limited

00:14:15.920 government as just being as small of government as possible. That's not what limited government means.

00:14:19.380 It means limited by enumerated powers, limited by accountability to the people. And we've forgotten

00:14:24.020 that there is just authority of government and that we should use the just authority to properly

00:14:28.320 order our society. So when it comes to these two examples that we're discussing, critical race

00:14:33.260 theory and trans theory, we should use the power of the government to ban critical race theory and

00:14:37.180 transgender ideology in schools, in public libraries, any place that touches taxpayer money from

00:14:43.500 the military, from the federal government. Private companies that have contracts with the government

00:14:47.160 shouldn't be allowed to have DEI offices and all of these different things. We can use government

00:14:52.040 to eradicate this from our institutions. Conservatives are just afraid to do that because the left tries

00:14:58.880 to use our words against us and tries to say, oh, I thought you were for small government. Well, no,

00:15:02.940 we're for a limited, a government limited by enumerated powers and accountability to the people.

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00:16:28.820 I asked Donald Trump, I see what they're doing. You said, Donald Trump, you said, lock her

00:16:39.120 up. And you didn't because that was campaign. This is really being the president. You don't

00:16:45.540 want to start locking up opponents. But now they've done it to you. They're trying to lock

00:16:50.500 you up and they're serious about it. Are you going to lock them up if you get in? And he

00:16:57.440 said, I have to. They started it. How do we, because there's a lot, there's, we're in deep,

00:17:07.860 deep trouble. How do we root this out? How do we use government but not set up a government

00:17:15.920 that can, we have to stop going down one road and then four years later, eight years later

00:17:23.860 go, oh, we're going that way. The government makes no sense. It doesn't. How do we reroute

00:17:30.300 ourself? How do we unplug the system and plug it back in to restore factory settings?

00:17:36.180 Well, first of all, that's Trump's answer is like the Trumpest answer. I have to, they

00:17:39.500 started it. It's funny. I actually think you probably should have locked Hillary up. 1.00

00:17:43.740 I think so too. With a fair trial. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Fair trial, of course. But she was guilty 0.99

00:17:47.660 of all these things. Trump is not. That's, that's the difference. Yes.

00:17:50.620 So let me give you an example from the education system, because I think conservatives, we're

00:17:55.620 good faith people. We try to be honest. We try to be people of integrity. We want everyone

00:17:59.480 to flourish. But the education system, for example, is an indoctrination center. That's

00:18:04.140 pretty inarguable. It's being used right now to indoctrinate children in all kinds of Marxist

00:18:08.100 theory and revisionist history and moral relativism. Like it is an indoctrination center. So what is

00:18:13.200 our reaction as conservatives? Are we trying to make it a neutral playing field again? My argument

00:18:17.580 would be, no, we're not. We should also use it as an indoctrination center because the public

00:18:21.720 school system in our country was created to be used as an indoctrination center. It was

00:18:25.760 never created just to be reading, writing, and arithmetic. It was created, I mean, compulsory

00:18:30.120 education. To make new Americans. Yes. Compulsory education started in Massachusetts in 1852

00:18:34.900 because there was an influx of Catholic immigrants at the time. And the politicians wanted to indoctrinate

00:18:41.120 the children in American values so that they were loyal to America first and not their place 0.97

00:18:45.260 of origin and in Protestant values because they were anti-Catholic at the time. And

00:18:49.720 what's funny is, again, conservatives lost sight of that was the purpose of the education

00:18:53.840 system. There's nothing inherently immoral about indoctrination. It's a morally neutral

00:18:58.300 concept. It's what is being indoctrinated that determines whether it's moral or immoral.

00:19:03.060 So conservatives shouldn't just try to make education neutral. We should indoctrinate it. 0.98

00:19:07.400 But this applies to the law, too. So after Trump was indicted down in Georgia by this local

00:19:13.420 DA, we recognize that, oh, this is what George Soros, why he was funding all these DAs because

00:19:18.040 they knew the federal government, Congress, you know, the Department of Justice was never

00:19:22.600 going to be able to do this properly. They tried it with Trump with indictment or with

00:19:26.100 impeachments and it didn't work. Humiliated him, maybe mostly galvanized his base.

00:19:30.760 But my argument was, well, conservatives need to be doing this with DAs in red states, too.

00:19:35.920 Why aren't we indicting Hunter Biden and Joe Biden on RICO charges?

00:19:38.420 The difference is the Democrats are actually guilty of these things. So it's not us. It

00:19:43.520 wouldn't be Republicans using their power. It would be us actually using the just authority

00:19:48.340 that we have as government to hold people accountable when they violate the law. So it's

00:19:53.100 not just, well, if the Democrats are going to do it, we're going to play by their rules,

00:19:55.920 even though it's dishonest. It's totally different because using, indicting someone, for example,

00:20:00.860 the morality of it is determined by whether you're weaponizing the government or whether

00:20:04.020 you're following the rule of law. But I'm not sure we have enough Republicans, at least in

00:20:08.760 leadership, that actually believe in anything like that. You know what I mean? The one thing

00:20:13.700 about the left, the leadership, they believe. They believe. I don't know if Joe Biden even knows what

00:20:21.960 he's doing, but the people behind him, they are true believers of what they're doing. Where I don't

00:20:29.380 know if we have any real constitutionalists in the government now of any weight or number. We have

00:20:36.840 a few that I know that stand up for it, but it's not like a, oh yeah, we're all constitutionalists here.

00:20:44.660 Well, they don't understand what that means. So the reason the left is effective is because they

00:20:48.160 are cohesive. And we as conservatives laugh at them for being so cohesive because we're like, well,

00:20:52.360 don't you have any independent thoughts? Like, are you just one big block? That may be the wrong

00:20:56.400 attitude to look at because they're actually just coalescing around a set of values and they are

00:21:00.500 absolutely committed to achieving them. Now, we believe those values and those beliefs are evil.

00:21:05.040 Republicans don't have a set of values because of what I described before. When you embrace the

00:21:09.820 idea of libertarianism, you are not embracing, you don't, libertarianism isn't a belief in anything.

00:21:14.780 It's trying to withdraw judgment or morality or objective truth from everything. So we've done this to

00:21:22.120 ourselves. If we, if we wanted to be a cohesive party, then we would have a definition as a

00:21:26.340 party of what human flourishing is. We would have a definition of liberty. We'd be like,

00:21:30.660 well, what is liberty? Liberty is the means to something greater. What is this something greater?

00:21:34.800 Justice? Well, what is justice? Well, justice as defined by our constitution, James Madison,

00:21:40.700 in Federalist paper number 51, he defines liberty as justice. Edmund Burke defines justice as original

00:21:46.640 justice, capital O, capital J. He means natural law. The Republican party isn't coalesced around this

00:21:52.900 belief. They're so afraid of an accusation of violating the separation of church and state that

00:21:57.120 they're afraid of even appearing religious, of even their personal beliefs. So we're not going to be

00:22:01.600 cohesive unless we decide what we believe as a party, because I don't think we believe anything

00:22:06.760 as a party now. You are fantastic. You are just fantastic. You give me hope on a day. I have had

00:22:15.500 a little hope. Thank you. But you give me hope. Let me take you back to history. The guy who

00:22:23.380 taught people to to attack the civil institutions in America has a modern day connection. But let's

00:22:33.280 start with the history first. Yes, this this was this blew my mind when I was researching the book.

00:22:39.380 I think I was doing this at like 1 a.m. I did a lot of the research for this book after my daughter

00:22:42.660 went to sleep. And I like jumped up from my laptop when I realized this. I was like, everyone's

00:22:47.300 asleep. Who am I supposed to tell? So I ended up making it the beginning of my book. So when we

00:22:52.500 look at the cultural institutions that are that have been compromised in our nation, it's pretty

00:22:56.300 obvious. Like the media has been compromised. The education system has been compromised. A lot of

00:23:00.800 religious institutions sadly have been compromised. The law has been compromised and they are actively

00:23:05.780 the other side is actively seeking to subvert the nuclear family. So we identify those things and 0.94

00:23:10.020 we're like, OK, cool. Well, you take a little step back in history and you realize the communism

00:23:15.220 or Marxism of Karl Marx, it went out of fashion after the Communist Manifesto died out because

00:23:19.780 Karl Marx envisioned this global Marxist revolution that didn't really happen because discontented

00:23:24.860 working class really wasn't enough to spark that. But then you have this guy in the early 20th

00:23:29.580 century named Antonio Gramsci. He was the co-founder of the Italian Communist Party and he was put in

00:23:35.420 prison in fascist Italy. And while he was in prison, he was studying Marxism and what what made the Marxist

00:23:41.980 revolutions that were successful, successful. And he accurately recognized that when a Marxist revolution

00:23:47.580 was successful, it wasn't based on economic discontent. It was based on first destroying the civil

00:23:54.220 institutions on which the working class relied. And he named, among others, the media, the education system,

00:24:01.580 religious institutions, the law and the family. Once you see this stuff, you can't unsee it.

00:24:06.860 But Gramsci's work was not prevalent in the United States for a long time. It didn't become prevalent

00:24:12.220 until the 1970s. So here I am sitting leafing through. Hang on just a second. The theory of mine,

00:24:18.940 I don't know if this is true. Because they lost in the 1960s, these Marxists lost, they realized

00:24:27.180 this is not going to work, that we have to have

00:24:32.140 all of them. And then in the 1980s, when Reagan came in, they still didn't have the boardrooms.

00:24:38.820 And that's when they really started doubling down and getting the companies. Is that

00:24:42.620 you think that's accurate? Yes, it is accurate. I think it

00:24:46.380 really did start before the 1960s, the infiltration of our institutions and

00:24:51.580 these ideas being planted in different places in our society.

00:24:55.820 What it wasn't something that happened quickly, which is why I think we're not going to be able

00:24:59.020 to fight back against this immediately, because it took 100 years to plant this.

00:25:02.060 We're not going to be able to eradicate it in a day.

00:25:04.060 But I'm leafing through these prison notebooks that Antonio Gramsci wrote.

00:25:08.780 And I realized on the front cover of the page, it's probably the 15th time I had this book open,

00:25:12.780 that the reason I'm able to read Antonio Gramsci, he wrote in Italian, translated into English,

00:25:18.620 is because of a man who translated his work. The man's name was Joseph Buttigieg.

00:25:23.820 Yes, that Buttigieg. This is Pete Buttigieg's father, who ran an international fan club for

00:25:33.740 Antonio Gramsci, translated these works. So it's not just that he's, you know,

00:25:42.140 been intersected by heterosexual men that, you know, he's been oppressed because of that.

00:25:47.820 He's probably legendary because of his family tie in the Marxist circles.

00:25:54.620 Well, you would think, I mean, you would think at the very least that some enterprising journalists would

00:25:58.940 ask the secretary of transportation if he shared an ideological connection in addition to the

00:26:03.820 biological relation to his Marxist father. But no one seems interested in that. Seems relevant to me. 0.97

00:26:10.700 It does. It it blew my mind. I ended up just kind of saying, you're kidding. You're kidding me.

00:26:16.860 A hundred times because it's right there. So so he believes taking down all of these things,

00:26:24.940 taking down the nuclear family, you point out there's five steps to doing that. What are the five steps? 0.88

00:26:30.540 So a basic nuclear family is comprised of five elements. Obviously, man, woman, marriage, sex,

00:26:38.460 and children. And if you look at the history of our country in the last since about the 1960s,

00:26:44.540 each one of these elements has been the target of a concerted attack from the sexual revolution.

00:26:50.380 By the way, the term sexual revolution was coined by a Marxist, a Marxist named Wilhelm Reich,

00:26:55.820 who believed that the only way to overthrow capitalism was to destroy Judeo-Christian sexual

00:27:01.660 mores. Perhaps he was correct. So we have attacks on sex. We have the feminist movement. I mean, 0.97

00:27:10.540 you think about the feminine mystique. Everyone's heard of that book. The author of this book was she

00:27:15.420 claimed she wasn't a Marxist, but she was steeped in Marxist ideology. She was active in Marxist causes

00:27:21.340 before she wrote this book that told women that they should be discontented as wives and as mothers, 1.00

00:27:26.460 that they weren't reaching their full potential, that they should abandon their families and instead

00:27:30.940 find fulfillment in a paycheck that turned women against men for the first time in American history. 0.83

00:27:37.900 You have the assault on masculinity that I think we're seeing today, maybe more than ever before,

00:27:47.020 with the vilification of particularly straight white Christian men being told that they're simply bad

00:27:53.420 because they are straight white Christian men. And marriage, of course, conservatives and Republicans

00:28:00.540 simply surrendered the institution of marriage because we were trying to be nice. We were trying

00:28:03.900 to not to tell people who they can live with. But and I know this can be an unpopular opinion among

00:28:09.500 Republicans because a lot of Republicans are like, well, people can do what they want. It's not just a

00:28:14.060 matter of people being able to do what they want. When you redefine the word marriage, you are giving

00:28:18.620 to the government absolutely the authority to redefine any word. Exactly. They become the arbiter

00:28:22.860 of truth. And the arbiter of truth is just a nice way to say that you're giving them the power to be

00:28:25.900 the authoritarian. Correct. Which is how we got to exactly where we are today. Yes. Where you can

00:28:31.020 redefine man and woman and everything else, everything, everything. There's no end to it.

00:28:36.060 I remember when we redefined the word marriage and leading up to it, my daughter was in college. She

00:28:45.420 wouldn't speak to me for a while because college had convinced her that I was anti-gay. On this,

00:28:51.340 I've always been libertarian. I don't care what you do, but don't tell my church what marriage is and

00:28:58.940 who I have to marry. I won't tell you who you can hook up with and you can make a little pact,

00:29:05.020 but it's not marriage. But you can make that pact. Marriage is between a man and a woman.

00:29:11.020 Man and man want to hook up. That's fine. But don't redefine marriage. You go a step further.

00:29:18.860 It's important to say that's not fine. I think so. Yes. And like I said, I know this is an

00:29:24.380 unpopular opinion among Republicans who are like, well, don't say that you'll lose the centrist votes.

00:29:29.660 Being a squish is never going to get you any votes. It's never going to standing for nothing is 1.00

00:29:33.660 never going to coalesce a passionate base who also want to fight for your values. Marriage

00:29:38.700 is what marriage is. You simply you can pervert it. You can have government pretend that it's

00:29:43.180 something different, but you can't change what the institution of marriage is. It's one of the

00:29:47.980 unique things about our country is that we were founded on the idea that our government didn't

00:29:52.860 come first. There was objective reality first and our government was meant to protect it.

00:29:57.340 And if you're if you are looking to destroy traditional marriage, which we know it was on

00:30:05.260 the BLM website and everything else destroy nuclear family, you can't say that, no, we're just extending 0.84

00:30:14.700 that because you're trying to destroy that. That's your intent is to destroy the nuclear family. 0.73

00:30:20.620 It is. It's also a matter of historical fact. If you look at if you look at the 1960s and the 1970s,

00:30:26.460 when the gay rights movement was, I guess, becoming more prominent, some of the leaders

00:30:32.860 of this movement, which right now they're not spoken about even among gay activists because they don't

00:30:37.660 want to be associated with Marxism because there are some people who really think it's about gay rights,

00:30:42.780 but they organized their entire activism efforts patterned off of the Marxist dialectic.

00:30:47.740 Instead of viewing their sexual preferences or their homosexuality as either how the medical

00:30:53.660 community had deemed it, you know, a psychological disorder or how the church had deemed it,

00:30:57.500 you know, a disordered sexual conduct. They were like, wait a second.

00:31:00.540 What if we painted ourselves as being marginalized by capitalism?

00:31:05.100 What if we painted ourselves as the victim of institutional discrimination?

00:31:09.580 And once they did that, that's exactly what we see today. That's why even though gay marriage was 1.00

00:31:14.940 redefined by our government, even though there are no laws that prevent two men or two women from

00:31:19.820 doing what they want with each other. Nothing. They the LGBTQIA lobby, those activists still act like 1.00

00:31:26.700 they are oppressed. They're not. But they have to continue to act like that because they're not

00:31:32.060 really seeking equality. They're just seeking to weaponize some demographic that they can tell 0.92

00:31:38.220 this demographic. Oh, you're marginalized. You're discontented. So you need to revolt against.

00:31:42.540 Well, it's always capitalism. It's always it's always freedom. It's always our government institutions.

00:31:48.620 So you thought going, you know, the kids going back to school would be like a load off your mind,

00:31:53.340 right? And now you're hauling the kids around for soccer practice and band practice and ballet

00:31:58.540 and the homework that you have to help with. And you don't even understand the homework.

00:32:02.380 I'm sorry. Does this sound personal? There is a there's a time where we're all like, you know,

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00:33:03.180 Why is this leading to so much pedophilia stuff? Why is it seeming that, you know, the trans thing 1.00

00:33:11.900 is seems to be imaged as you've got to have them in your children's life. You have to say to a child,

00:33:22.700 we have to we have to show graphic things to young children, something wholly inappropriate for their

00:33:30.220 age. And and then tell them that you can switch, you know, and be whatever you want. You should have

00:33:37.580 sex. You should be exploring. Nobody, nobody could show you any evidence that any of that is any good. 1.00

00:33:46.780 None of it. And then you add this pedophilia part. Why? Where is that coming from? What's happening

00:33:54.240 there? The most disturbing part of researching this book was I read the founding document of queer 1.00

00:34:00.740 theory. So as as we know, we talked about the principles of critical race theory, right? Telling

00:34:05.260 white children, they're racist or black children, they're oppressed. That's the principles of the 0.99

00:34:08.840 actual critical race theory ideology. Well, the transgender ideology, this stuff that we're

00:34:13.520 teaching children in schools, that gender is on a spectrum, it's not correlated to biological sex,

00:34:17.840 that they should transgress social, sexual more morals. These are not a random assortment of just

00:34:24.000 poison. These are the principles of another theory called queer theory. So I thought, OK, well, 1.00

00:34:28.580 let's dig into this. What is queer theory? Who wrote it? What's the goal? Like, what is this?

00:34:31.880 I read the document. It's written by a woman by the name of Gail Rubin. She's still alive today.

00:34:37.760 She's active in academia, I believe. She wrote an essay called Thinking Sex, in which she defines

00:34:44.400 queer theory. She was she wrote the founding document. And she lists all of these different

00:34:48.560 things, all these elements of the transgender ideology as being part of queer theory. And then

00:34:53.260 she takes it a step further. She talks about why it's necessary to sexualize children. 0.99

00:34:57.080 She defends child pornography. And she outright defends pedophiles, saying that our society, 0.94

00:35:06.360 and she wrote this 30 years ago. So thank goodness this didn't come, her prediction didn't come true.

00:35:10.720 But she said, 20 years from now, we will regret having put in prison these men who love underage

00:35:17.540 youth. Oh, my gosh. It's the most disturbing thing I've ever read. I had to get up, I had to take a lap

00:35:24.080 because I was like, this is like reading something straight from the devil. It's a neo-Marxist theory.

00:35:31.300 Marxism is an anti-human ideology. That's why it's going after objective truth. It's why its first

00:35:39.400 direct object is the destruction of the family. I mean, the free market economy, again, isn't inherently

00:35:44.560 moral in and of itself. It protects our right to have a family, to provide for that family,

00:35:49.380 to worship the God that we want. The nuclear family isn't just a practical

00:35:54.400 institution that was begot of capitalism. As Marx and Engels said, it is the earthly representation

00:36:01.060 of Christ's love for his church. They're anti-Christian, they're anti-Christ. This is a satanic ideology.

00:36:08.160 And I think it is a religion. I mean, it is, there is, there's doctrine, there's excommunication,

00:36:19.520 there's sacraments, there's prayers you have to, I mean, it's the whole, it is a religion. And they

00:36:27.480 are worshiping at an idol or an altar that they think might be something else. But it is pure evil.

00:36:34.980 It is pure evil. And it's not just their individual choice to choose evil, which would make me sad for

00:36:41.800 their soul. But they're actively recruiting our children to be part of it.

00:36:46.680 You talk about Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood was the one that came up with

00:36:51.380 Don't Say Gay, right? Yeah. To the best of my research, and I researched this a lot, I was like,

00:36:57.540 what's the origin of the Don't Say Gay thing? It was one of the modern marvels of fake news in our 0.96

00:37:02.120 mainstream media to hear the parental rights and education bill in Florida, falsely dubbed as the

00:37:07.140 Don't Say Gay bill. It was incredibly effective. And it wasn't just a phrase that someone coined on

00:37:12.340 the fly, and it was catchy. It wasn't something that happened on Twitter, and then people caught

00:37:16.220 onto it. The origin of the Don't Say Gay phrase was a Planned Parenthood blog post, which since we

00:37:23.380 started covering this, they've removed. But you can still access it via the Wayback Machine,

00:37:27.340 the Internet Archive. They described a bill in Missouri during 2020. It was a similar parental

00:37:32.860 rights bill that doesn't say anything about prohibiting people from saying the word gay.

00:37:36.880 They described it as the Don't Say Gay bill. And the reason why is quite shocking, because you

00:37:42.520 think, okay, well, why does Planned Parenthood care about this? All the things. Their business is

00:37:46.260 abortion. Why are they focused on this? Planned Parenthood has become one of the largest distributors

00:37:50.820 of transgender hormone therapy in the country. Oh my gosh. It's their new avenue of blood money. 1.00

00:37:59.140 Abortion is one, the mutilation of children in a different way. Those they haven't killed

00:38:02.260 by abortion, they want to chop up the bodies of these children. And they need people to believe 0.98

00:38:07.420 that conservatives are trying to prohibit people from staying gay to protect their own

00:38:11.480 business interests. Is this, does this go back to their original founding? They're just,

00:38:17.440 they are about population control. So, gay, mutilation of children, and abortion. What else can you do? 1.00

00:38:29.940 I mean, you're feminizing men. You're just destroying the pool, really, of baby makers. Is that what 0.99

00:38:45.000 this is? It's all tied together. I talk a little bit about Margaret Sanger. I mean, most of us know

00:38:49.660 a little bit about Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. We know she was a eugenicist.

00:38:52.900 We know she was a racist. I mean, she wanted to call birth control race control originally,

00:38:57.200 which tells you all you need to know, really. But she also, well, she wasn't a self-avowed Marxist.

00:39:03.820 I mean, she was also surrounded by socialists and communists and Marxists. She went, she abandoned

00:39:09.680 her family to have an affair with someone who took her to the Soviet Union during the socialist

00:39:15.420 heyday. And she praised the Soviet Union for how they treated women, this communist country that was

00:39:20.880 starving people. When you are associated with beliefs like that, you are tainted by those beliefs,

00:39:26.760 unless you are only associated with those beliefs because you are studying them to overturn them.

00:39:30.380 Right. And this is the Planned Parenthood is what I call one of the biggest institutional groomers in

00:39:36.360 our country. Grooming young women away from being feminine, grooming young men away from being 1.00

00:39:42.880 masculine, demonizing babies, of course, with their with their abortion business. Now this transgender 1.00

00:39:49.320 ideology, they are destroying the nuclear family more effectively element by element than any other 0.89

00:39:54.400 institution that I can think of in this country. Wow. You know, when you say

00:40:00.280 feminizing men, masculizing women, talk to me about the because I grew up in the era where my mother 0.78

00:40:12.720 was too old to be part of the 1950s mom. And she or she was too, too young for that. And she was

00:40:23.460 too old for the burn your bra kind of thing. And she never felt like I mean, I remember my my dad and I

00:40:33.580 talked about it. It's my my mother eventually killed herself. She was just she was just very sad. And my dad and

00:40:45.700 I were talking about it said, you know, your mom always wanted to have her own business. And she wanted to be a 0.99

00:40:51.700 florist. And she was very creative. She's like Martha Stewart. And he said, but Glenn, at that time, we

00:40:59.020 didn't even think of that. We I mean, I knew she wanted to be a florist. She knew she wanted to be a

00:41:03.520 florist. But women didn't own their own business. It just didn't happen. So how do you bridge the gap 1.00

00:41:11.760 between, you know, the women who are driven to do that? And then now we have this trad movement,

00:41:22.000 which is a flashback to the 1950s, disordered grasp at something that was right, right? Where where

00:41:31.080 how do you bridge this? How do you how do we get to reason from here?

00:41:37.140 Well, listen, this is a personal question for me, too, because I'm here. I'm working. This is what I do for a living.

00:41:42.580 I'm I feel a calling to stand to fight for our country. That's why I do what I do. I also have a two year old daughter

00:41:47.780 who I'm not going to farm out raising her to someone else. I'm not going to drop her off at daycare every day. 0.86

00:41:52.760 I'm not going to have someone else educate her. I'm not going to have someone else instill values in her.

00:41:57.120 I understand that the most valuable thing that I can do is shepherd that soul. True. And I am unwilling to

00:42:04.740 compromise that even even to balance with my calling of, you know, writing this book and doing my show and

00:42:12.180 speaking to college campuses all the time. And I think it's difficult for women to be able to listen to their 1.00

00:42:20.660 natural desires when our their natural desires are often to be wives and mothers. But there's

00:42:27.120 especially in this day and age, there's so many ways to to work flexibly, to be able to sort of do

00:42:31.720 both. I mean, I don't want to be one of those people that's like, you can do everything.

00:42:35.000 If you look like you're doing everything, usually you're cutting something out. But there's a way to

00:42:39.180 be able to do some work on your own business, do do your your ministry, if you will, while also

00:42:45.300 fulfilling your vocation. And I think it's very difficult for young women to be able to

00:42:50.040 listen to their own instincts because culture has vilified their instincts and told them from the time

00:42:55.440 they were born that they were wrong, that they were wrong to feel that way, that they should desire

00:42:59.120 to go into STEM fields if they want to meet their potential. They shouldn't be thinking about what

00:43:03.140 their wedding is going to look like. They shouldn't be thinking about Prince Charming coming along and

00:43:06.200 sweeping them off their feet, falling in love and having a family. And I actually find the TradCon

00:43:11.180 movement really interesting because I think it is it is a disordered grasp at traditional values

00:43:16.540 because they don't really have values that underpin it. But Gen Z is so interesting to me

00:43:20.140 because they have realized that this feminist narrative, especially among young women, this

00:43:25.380 feminist narrative doesn't make them happy. And they are unconcerned the way that millennial 1.00

00:43:30.300 generation is concerned with what other people think of them. They don't necessarily care what other

00:43:35.080 people think of them. And so they're like, well, I don't want to work. Why should I work? I want to stay

00:43:37.800 home. And so they're willing to do that and even to buck cultural pressure to do that. It's my belief

00:43:44.700 that you have to have some kind of underpinning of morals or religion or principles in order to

00:43:49.840 properly understand the dynamic between a husband and a wife without it being. That's the difference 0.97

00:43:54.780 between, you know, building your house on rock and. Yes, exactly. So I think I don't I don't

00:43:59.440 particularly like the trad wife videos you see on TikTok because I think they're silly. But it is

00:44:04.140 interesting to see that for for the first time, they Gen Z is actually saying, well, wait a second.

00:44:09.460 Women are unhappier now than they've ever been before in our nation's history. Maybe it's because they 1.00

00:44:13.380 don't actually want to go to work all the time. They want to make home nice for a husband. Right. 1.00

00:44:16.980 And I am very hopeful that these young women and the young men, too, who are benefiting from this

00:44:24.220 are able to pursue that to its ordered conclusion and say, well, wait a second. What you're actually

00:44:29.940 looking for is a nuclear family, a marriage, a covenant. And this is how we should do it instead 1.00

00:44:34.060 of just a partnership. Right. With everything that we know about Planned Parenthood, and it just gets

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00:46:26.820 Tell me about, um, I mean, we have to have at least a couple of minutes of bashing Woodrow

00:46:34.320 Wilson. Um, my favorite pastimes. Oh yeah. So happy to find you. Um, when I first started

00:46:41.940 talking about Woodrow, Woodrow Wilson, everybody, everybody said, what is your deal with Woodrow

00:46:47.760 Wilson? And I'm like, you don't understand. If you don't understand him, you don't understand

00:46:53.720 what's happened. Cause he's, he took apart the declaration of independence said it's worthless.

00:46:59.280 Don't pay attention to it. He hated the constitution. He hated, uh, all kinds of things, huge racist

00:47:07.360 and believed. Have you read, uh, Philip drew administrator? No, but I'll put it on my to read

00:47:14.860 list. It's his favorite book. He read it like three times while he was in office and it's horrible,

00:47:19.200 but it's fascinating because it describes the administrative state. Exactly. What is happening

00:47:25.880 to us now? It was Woodrow Wilson's dream. He was a very bad dude. Very bad, very bad dude. And it's

00:47:31.560 fascinating because he told us exactly what he wanted to happen with the federal government.

00:47:35.260 And lo and behold, here we are suffering under the dictates of Fauci and the FDA and the CDC and an

00:47:42.380 over all these overgrown administrative agencies that many people weren't even aware of. They didn't

00:47:47.920 think about, they didn't realize how the administrative state operates, that Congress 0.99

00:47:52.300 is lazy, that Congress are cowards. They make these very vague, um, well, they pass laws that

00:47:59.920 are very vague and then they say, well, we're just going to give it to you bureaucrats to decide what

00:48:03.280 we meant. Yes. And then bureaucrats that have been buried in administrative state agencies for who

00:48:07.800 knows how long. They want to, they want that. They're like, please let me take your vague statement

00:48:13.040 and make it as Marxist as possible. Yeah. And then we, as the United States, as United States

00:48:17.120 senators are bound to follow these rules that they dictate like their laws. I mean, this is not a free

00:48:21.840 country. I would argue that this is completely unconstitutional. All of it. It's so unconstitutional.

00:48:27.040 In fact, the Supreme Court made a huge error when they stopped enforcing the non-delegation, um,

00:48:32.800 doctrine. That was one of the biggest mistakes I think the Supreme Court has ever made. They've made some

00:48:36.800 doozies, but that was one of the... The Reigns Act would correct that. It would. It can, it can be fixed. Yeah. 1.00

00:48:42.420 But of course it would require members of our Congress to understand the problem and be committed

00:48:47.100 to fixing it. So. And take responsibility. Yeah. I mean, nobody wants the response of everybody

00:48:52.420 in Congress. They're all cowards. Otherwise they'd be standing up and saying, we are $2 trillion over 0.99

00:49:01.380 our budget. A trillion more than we said we were going to go. How, how bad is this that we thought

00:49:10.260 we projected a trillion dollars over budget and we're $2 trillion over budget? That's insanity.

00:49:17.940 And none of them will say, I'll shut the government down for that. I wish they would. I wish they would.

00:49:23.300 Every time Republicans like, oh, we're just trying to avoid a government shutdown. I'm like, why? I would

00:49:26.900 love to see that. Yeah. We'd all realize how useless the government is. We would. People don't realize,

00:49:32.260 I think. I'm not sure I even fully recognize this until Dr. Fauci came on the scene and he was like

00:49:38.100 actively lying and spreading misinformation and trying to boss us around telling us we couldn't

00:49:42.340 even have Thanksgiving with our families. I don't think that it was just so jarring. I think to see

00:49:47.540 this and realize that this idea of rule by the experts is actually has a name. It's not just Dr.

00:49:52.420 Fauci. It's not just one egotistical, tiny little man. It is technocracy that rule by the experts or

00:49:57.700 rule by science is technocracy and technocracy. I unpack it in my book. One of the, um, there's,

00:50:03.700 there's several people who propose the idea of technocracy throughout history, but one of

00:50:07.380 the people that I found most interesting was a Russian physician named Alexander Bogdanov.

00:50:14.260 He wrote a fiction book about technocracy in which he had people go to Mars or something

00:50:20.260 not interesting. But the purpose of that is they were going to change the civilization of Mars

00:50:25.060 from capitalism to communism and use technocracy as a stepping stone rule by the experts as a

00:50:31.540 stepping stone because you and I are not allowed to question the experts because we are not the

00:50:34.980 experts. Correct. So it's authoritarianism and he admitted it's a stepping stone. Wait until it's AI.

00:50:41.860 Yeah. All an expert has to say is the AI quantum computing. You can't even understand it. This is the

00:50:50.660 best path. Who are you to question? Are you, you have quantum computing in your pocket or you,

00:50:58.660 do you have all the library knowledge of the entire history of man in your head? You, people will just be

00:51:05.780 like, Oh, well, the AI says that. I mean, that is, that is around the corner. It's terrifying because

00:51:13.140 we keep giving power to people in the administrative state who all they want is power and control and,

00:51:22.900 you know, authoritarianism. You don't think they're going to use AI to help them on that.

00:51:29.620 You know what, you know what gets me about AI is people talk about AI often as if it's this

00:51:34.580 autonomous being that it's like its own living entity. I'm like, you realize that somebody had

00:51:39.220 to write the code, like a hunk of junk computer doesn't run on its own unless someone puts it

00:51:42.900 together and puts a series of numbers and letters into it that tells it what to do.

00:51:46.980 Right. And you can, you can put a series of code in that's very impressive and makes this machine

00:51:50.900 operate, but someone has to write that. Are you telling me that without knowing who's writing that

00:51:55.220 and who's influencing the people that are writing that and who's paying the people who are influencing

00:51:58.500 the people who are writing that, that that's not going to manipulate you towards some

00:52:02.020 ideological end? I know, please. I've always said, don't fear the technology,

00:52:06.900 fear the people running and writing the code. However, AI is now making leaps and and jumps

00:52:16.820 in knowledge that we don't even know how it works. And the scariest thing is there is this entity,

00:52:25.940 if you will, that is this giant hive mind, and it only has one little spout and all of these,

00:52:36.580 you know, AI people are like, no, we'll just keep turning that down. It's churning all down here.

00:52:44.660 It's learning and churning. And they're saying, oh, but we're only going to let a little bit out.

00:52:50.180 This figures that out pretty quickly, pretty damn quickly.

00:52:57.380 So, you know, the one thing I really loved about this, because I am so concerned about

00:53:07.460 I'm not sure a society has ever gone this far and gone back to freedom and liberty.

00:53:16.100 Um, we have too many emergencies coming our way, too many hardships coming our way.

00:53:22.660 And without God, we'll never make it, never make it, unless we are rooted in our principles and values.

00:53:28.980 Nobody knows the Constitution. Nobody knows that if you just really understood the Declaration of

00:53:34.980 Independence and you could carry that around with you. That's our mission statement.

00:53:40.980 I know what we're trying to build because of that. I believe in that. Let's build that.

00:53:49.700 The Constitution is the owner's manual that nobody ever reads.

00:53:53.380 And because nobody is ever reading this and because people are starting to say, you know, it's because of God.

00:54:02.980 And things are out of control. You can get into toxic stew of a.

00:54:12.100 Quasi religious fascistic sort of government that fast.

00:54:17.260 And that would come from the right. You know what you're getting. You're getting a godless

00:54:23.180 horror show on the left, but you could get a really perverted country on the right that Americans wouldn't understand.

00:54:34.540 Do you agree with that? First of all, I think so. Yeah, because every person, it doesn't matter if you're Democrat or Republican, has a propensity to want power and to wield it over other people.

00:54:43.900 I mean, hopefully you and I don't want to use that and understand that it's something that would lead us towards sin.

00:54:51.580 But and I guess we think of Democrats as being more prone to use that because they are godless oftentimes.

00:54:56.860 But every person has that. Everybody does. Everybody does that.

00:54:59.580 So certainly, I mean, it's not really a matter of government officials of if they would abuse power, if they have the opportunity to.

00:55:06.840 It's when and how. And that's true of both parties.

00:55:08.980 What you just said is so important because you sound like the founders.

00:55:15.160 I know the nature of man.

00:55:17.660 And if there were better angels amongst us, where are they in government?

00:55:24.300 Where are they? And man goes bad.

00:55:28.280 And that's the point that I became a huge fan, huge fan of yours.

00:55:34.960 And I can't tell you how much I would highly recommend your book because you include in your solutions the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

00:55:44.920 That is the answer if we will do self-control ourselves in our own life, if we will stand up and say, I'm not afraid of you.

00:55:57.180 And you know what? If jail is good enough for Martin Luther King over the truth and it's good enough for me and I'm not going to be scared by that.

00:56:07.480 People are too afraid to stand up.

00:56:09.640 And I think it's because they don't know what's at stake.

00:56:14.040 They don't know what they're fighting for.

00:56:17.500 And and generally, people are mice.

00:56:22.460 Yeah. I mean, our founders recognize what you're saying.

00:56:24.700 It's why Ben Franklin said a republic if you can keep it.

00:56:28.160 And he wasn't talking to a tyrant when he said that he was talking to a widow.

00:56:31.760 Right.

00:56:32.180 Who agreed with his moral philosophy.

00:56:35.380 I think Republicans have gotten very squeamish of being associated with religion at all because we are rightly.

00:56:43.660 Skeptical of going down the path of theocracy.

00:56:46.260 And I want to be very clear that what I'm proposing is not theocracy.

00:56:48.880 I'm never proposing that someone be forced to go to church or someone be prohibited from going to another church.

00:56:53.900 Yeah, I'm not proposing a state religion.

00:56:55.640 And what I'm proposing is that we recapture what our Constitution intended, which is that we have a preexisting definition of these words of objective reality, man, woman, marriage, morality, immorality, liberty, justice.

00:57:09.680 And that we don't allow our society to violate natural law.

00:57:13.420 You can ignore natural law if you're not a religious believer, but that doesn't make it exist less.

00:57:18.340 Correct.

00:57:18.760 It's still there.

00:57:19.460 Saying that a man could have a baby is like saying gravity doesn't exist in Nebraska.

00:57:25.640 Yes, it does.

00:57:28.300 Yes, it does.

00:57:29.860 Come to Nebraska with me.

00:57:31.380 And we won't have a cohesive society unless we come to an agreement.

00:57:34.800 And this is probably more.

00:57:36.540 Yes, we're gonna have dissenters in the Democrat Party.

00:57:38.220 But unless Republicans come to an agreement that, A, we're not going to be cowards about admitting that that any kind of morality and all of our laws are based on religious morality.

00:57:47.620 Our laws against murder are based on the idea that, well, it doesn't matter if a dog kills another dog, right?

00:57:52.900 Right.

00:57:53.040 Okay, well, people aren't allowed to kill other people because we're made in the image and likeness of God.

00:57:58.100 Because that person has dignity and value and rights that were given to him or her by our creator.

00:58:03.440 The foundation of the most basic laws in our society are our Judeo-Christian values.

00:58:08.860 And if we get away from that, we are never going to be able to recapture our society because it's a different society than we are trying to create.

00:58:14.680 How concerned are you with the movement of, I mean, this is, in every way, this movement in America is a movement of darkness and death.

00:58:26.980 And just, it's battery acid on everybody.

00:58:33.500 In Canada, they're ahead of us.

00:58:36.360 And the things that are happening where they're putting parents in prison because they won't affirm the child's gender.

00:58:46.520 And said, honey, I don't think you should take those hormones.

00:58:52.660 Oh, dad is in prison.

00:58:54.160 We tried to get him on the show.

00:58:55.600 He wasn't allowed.

00:58:56.620 Not allowed.

00:58:57.640 Not allowed.

00:58:58.900 Not allowed.

00:59:00.620 How close are we to that here, do you think?

00:59:03.720 They're trying to pass it in California as we speak.

00:59:05.680 It's a signature away.

00:59:06.920 Yeah.

00:59:07.360 And a signature that's going to happen.

00:59:08.980 Yes, it is.

00:59:09.640 It's coming here.

00:59:10.720 And I don't say this to be apocalyptic.

00:59:13.300 I don't say this so that people feel hopeless.

00:59:14.880 I say this because this should be the impetus for us to pass laws against this, to reaffirm parental rights, to ban transgender ideology from any kind of governmental institution. 1.00

00:59:26.820 There are things we can do.

00:59:28.040 One of the things that I challenge conservatives to do in the book is not just think about ordering our society from the perspective of ordering ourselves and ordering our families.

00:59:37.180 Those are good things.

00:59:37.800 Those are necessary things, of course.

00:59:38.980 But we have to be able to say not everything can be accomplished by the individual.

00:59:42.960 Some things we have to do collectively.

00:59:45.040 We associate the word collectively with collectivism, so we don't like that.

00:59:48.580 But some things we have to be able to band together and use government to order these things.

00:59:52.320 We're not going to be able to fight back against these legal assaults on parental rights specifically unless we also are legislating parental rights or acknowledging the existence, the unbreakable existence of parental rights into law, into the constitutions of these states.

01:00:07.340 And you can't do that without natural law or God's law, which is what we've always been based on.

01:00:15.000 Thank you so much.

01:00:16.300 Great, great work.

01:00:17.920 Thank you.

01:00:18.340 Very impressive.

01:00:18.740 I appreciate it.

01:00:19.300 Thank you.

01:00:22.320 Just a reminder.

01:00:26.820 I'd love you to rate and subscribe to the podcast and pass this on to a friend so it can be discovered by other people.

The Glenn Beck Program - September 30, 2023

Ep 196 ｜ Why Conservatives Should Develop Their Own 'Indoctrination Centers' ｜ Liz Wheeler ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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