The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 203 ｜ 'I Covered Myself with Bodies'： Hamas Attack Survivor Details EVIL ｜ Lee Sasi ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

00:00:00.000 On October 7th, Hamas terrorists attacked Israel, massacring over 1,200 people and abducting 240

00:00:08.640 more. The stories that are coming out from October 7th are astonishing. People were

00:00:14.480 butchered in their homes, raped in the streets, beheaded, burned alive.

00:00:21.280 It's evil like I have not seen before on display. But just hours before the attack,

00:00:28.600 there were people dancing until sunrise at the Supernova Music Festival. They could never have

00:00:35.500 imagined what would happen to them after sunrise. They could have never imagined that nearly one-third

00:00:42.160 of the total deaths that day would come from those they were dancing with.

00:00:48.220 Today's podcast, we have a survivor from the Supernova Music Festival. We have with us today

00:00:55.400 a 25-year-old American woman who was there at the Supernova Music Festival, saw the horror 0.89

00:01:02.300 of Hamas up close. She survived by hiding under dead bodies. She shared her phone footage with

00:01:12.060 us from that day. Be warned, it's very graphic.

00:01:18.960 This is the festival prior to the attack. You can see everyone dancing and enjoying themselves.

00:01:25.900 This is her view from inside the bomb shelter where she hid from Hamas. You can see how many people have

00:01:32.600 already been murdered by Hamas' guns and grenades. One more view. This one's right outside of the shelter.

00:01:39.900 You can see the dead bodies spilling out of the shelter. It is only by the grace of God that this

00:01:46.400 young woman made it out alive. She is here to tell her story. Today on the Glenn Beck Podcast, we welcome

00:01:54.060 Lee Saucy. I want limited commercial interruption, so let me just tell you about a couple sponsors here

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00:04:38.900 Thank you for coming. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

00:05:00.300 We were talking before the recording about, I don't want to re-traumatize or anything else.

00:05:08.900 Um, and you said actually talking about it helps you. How or why?

00:05:18.200 I think after what I've been through, um, you know, seeing, you know, us getting killed,

00:05:25.280 seeing people getting killed in front of my eyes, you know, I feel like it's really important that

00:05:29.120 as long as I'm alive to bring awareness to what happened and not to let this happen again.

00:05:35.460 Cause a lot of people saying that it's lies, but it's, it's not lies. It's,

00:05:40.000 it's real life. And a lot of people are suffering a lot of trauma from this.

00:05:44.880 So before we get into the story, I want to know who you were. Cause I imagine you're quite

00:05:52.960 different today than you were on the 6th of October. Oh yeah, definitely. Um, so tell me about

00:06:00.780 you. Who were you? Before, um, before I was, you know, just a simple person. I used to love,

00:06:08.720 uh, I still like to travel and be with family and you're 25, 25 years old. Where are you?

00:06:15.200 Where did you grow up? Yes. I'm 25 years old. I grew up in Los Angeles my whole life. Um,

00:06:23.680 relatively normal, easy life. Yeah. I had a normal life and easy life. You know,

00:06:29.360 I went to public school, you know, I grew up with all sorts of types of different types of people.

00:06:35.760 You know, um, I had a diverse background with friends. Did you ever encounter real antisemitism?

00:06:43.200 Um, not after October 7th, not before, sorry, pardon me, not before October 7th.

00:06:49.840 Yeah. Okay. So you never had that? No, no. And I, I, it was hard to believe in a point in a way,

00:06:56.320 not, I believed it. I knew that the Holocaust happened, but I didn't think that something

00:07:01.600 like this would happen again in my lifetime. Nor to you, nor to me. Exactly. So why were you over

00:07:11.200 in Israel? Is this your first time over in Israel? Um, no, I've been to Israel many times. My father,

00:07:18.080 he's Israeli. He was born and raised in Israel. And I have a, I have a boyfriend, a fiance now,

00:07:24.800 actually. Um, he's from Israel as well. And we had planned to go to Israel to meet his family,

00:07:30.880 for me to meet his family and to meet, and to meet his mother and to spend the holidays with his

00:07:36.320 family. So you were engaged before? No, no. So we wanted to meet the family. We went to meet the

00:07:42.960 family. He wanted me to meet the family and we went together as boyfriend and girlfriend. And on the

00:07:48.400 second day, when we arrived to Israel, he proposed to me at the, in the Jerusalem, at the Kotel,

00:07:54.160 the Western wall. Oh, wow. Yeah. It was really special. Wow. And what day was that? I think that

00:07:59.600 was, uh, it was like two days before, uh, Rosh Hashanah, which is the Jewish new year. I think

00:08:04.640 it was September 13th. Okay. September 13th. So then did you plan on going to the concert?

00:08:11.840 I did plan to go because my cousin, he was a big organizer for the event. And what was it? Because

00:08:19.360 it seemed like, I mean, no offense from California. So you'll understand I'm from the West Coast too.

00:08:24.560 It seems very hippie, very, just like, right. It's very hippie. Okay. Um, this location where they did

00:08:31.040 the party, it's a known location for nature parties. Um, what's a nature, a nature party is, uh,

00:08:38.160 that's a good question. This is what they call it in Israel. They call it the nature parties. It's

00:08:43.680 our, their type of raves. Okay. You know, for us, we call raves raves there. They call their raves

00:08:48.720 nature party. Okay. But it's a, basically a music festival with different DJs, uh, with genre of

00:08:54.880 trance, mainly trance and techno. Um, and it's in the outdoorsy and it's very, you know, normally it's small

00:09:03.440 groups, a small capacity. Normally there's like four or 500 people at these events, but this event

00:09:10.560 was a big event for Israel and it was around 4,000 people. And was the, I mean, cause it was

00:09:19.440 the point peace and we should all get along. Yes. It was a Nova. I think it was called Nova

00:09:24.800 Peace Festival. Um, it was a peace festival for people that love music and love to dance.

00:09:30.960 Um, my cousin, he was a big organizer for this event. So I knew about it weeks in advance.

00:09:37.840 In fact, when I found out that my flight was, I was supposed to leave Israel on October 3rd

00:09:44.960 and I decided to extend my stay in Israel so I could go to this event.

00:09:50.800 It, I like was determined to go to this event. You know, it was, uh, I was excited for it.

00:09:57.040 Who'd you go with? So I had gone, I had planned to go with my uncle Avi, her, his, his, I'm sorry,

00:10:04.080 my uncle Avi, his daughter, Danielle, Danielle's husband, Maor, our good friend, Alex. And, uh,

00:10:11.120 we planned to meet up at the event with my other cousins, Nitsa Nalidor, and my cousin,

00:10:16.960 Omri, who was planning the event. Um, I originally wanted to go with my fiance. I had begged him

00:10:23.840 all week, all weeks, the weeks that I had known about this event. I was begging him to, to join

00:10:29.840 me and he didn't want to come because at first he said he was going to come. And then he found out

00:10:35.680 that the event was on a Friday evening, which is Shabbat. And not only Shabbat, it was the holiday of

00:10:42.880 Simchat Torah. And, you know, which is, which is a holiday. It's a Jewish holiday where, um, after

00:10:49.520 Sukkot, after Sukkot, the holiday, they open the Torah and they dance with the Torah. It's like

00:10:54.720 the beginning of the, of the Torah, you know, because I'm getting goosebumps speaking. It's like

00:10:59.520 the beginning. It's the new chapter when they finished reading the whole book.

00:11:03.360 And Sukkot is where you live out in a tent. Yeah. Sukkot, um, is a holiday. I'm, I'll be quite

00:11:11.280 honest. I need to know more about my Jewish heritage and my backgrounds. I'm working on it. But

00:11:16.720 Sukkot is a different Jewish holiday where they build, they build, uh, walls out of, uh, 1.00

00:11:22.800 five walls. I'll be honest with you. I don't want to say the wrong information. No, no, no. I

00:11:26.720 understand. Because I'm not so, uh, no religious. I'm my, my goal is to be more closer to God and

00:11:33.120 to know all of this stuff. Um, I bet it means a lot to you now. It does. It does. So this, um,

00:11:42.960 festival is happening out in an open field. Yes. In the middle of nowhere, it's in the open field.

00:11:48.400 In fact, it's by the, by the Gaza Strip. I didn't even realize that it was that close until we arrived

00:11:54.320 towards the area of the party. But to get to this party, it's in the middle of nowhere. You have to

00:12:00.160 drive on an, on a road that goes down for miles on end. You have to drive 30 minutes to reach this

00:12:07.440 party on this one way road. It's like in the middle of nowhere. And when you get to this party,

00:12:12.480 all the kibbutz, which is where the terrorists had taken people from their homes was all in this area.

00:12:20.160 It was all very close to each other. When you got there, you didn't think anything.

00:12:25.840 You know, I didn't think about, I didn't think that this would happen, but I think our bodies,

00:12:32.000 we all have instincts, you know, our intuition. It was weird. Cause when we were on the way to the

00:12:37.360 party, my uncle Avi, he was freaking out that we were so close to the border. He's like, oh my gosh,

00:12:44.800 there's the border here. You know, we're so close. And he started, he was getting paranoid. In fact, when

00:12:50.880 we stopped to put gas in the car to go to the party and we were by the border, he was like,

00:12:56.240 I need everyone to stand next to me outside. Like I'm scared, like always looking over his shoulder.

00:13:01.040 So we were, we were paranoid that we were so close to the border. We didn't realize how close

00:13:06.400 we were until we got there. So the party starts, what time are you there? We arrived to the party

00:13:13.520 at around 2.30 in the morning. It took us about an hour to get to the party and we got there on 2.30.

00:13:20.000 We arrived with a lot of people. There was a lot of people that had arrived at the same time.

00:13:24.480 What time do these things start? I'm old, you know.

00:13:27.680 It's okay. Um, this party, I think it started at like 8 PM in the evening and it goes all the way

00:13:35.280 till the following day at 3 PM. So it's like, it's a long day party. It's like a full,

00:13:41.040 over 24, like a little bit less than 24 hours, I would say, but it's a full night today.

00:13:47.040 Today. So you get there. So we got to the party. Um, we entered, it's not, it's a big party for

00:13:53.520 Israel, but for me as an American, this is, this is small. It was very, you wouldn't, you remember

00:13:58.960 your, where you're walking, you remember the stages and the location. So we were walking through the

00:14:03.760 area just to get like a scope of where everything is. And, uh, we walked through the, um, the campgrounds

00:14:11.040 and it was nice. A lot of people were coming up to us and speaking to us. In fact, this one stranger

00:14:16.960 just came up to my uncle and he's like, Hey, you, you look like you make the best steaks in the world.

00:14:23.680 And we all looked at this man in shock because my uncle was in fact, one of the best bar, he made

00:14:29.680 the best steaks in the world, like the best into the best. And we were in shock that this stranger

00:14:35.280 just came up to him and said that it was like, are you psychic? Are you an angel? Where did you come

00:14:40.800 from? It was really weird. And then this guy was speaking to us for 10 minutes and he left. And then

00:14:46.400 after this guy left, another guy came up to my uncle and he's like, Hey, you, how old are you?

00:14:51.680 You look like you're 25. And my uncle is 65. And my uncle is a very young soul. It was just like

00:14:57.360 a lot of people were going up to him. And it was, I just remembered that those good times, you know,

00:15:02.400 that was a good memory of mine from this evening. And we had a beautiful night. Everyone was in such

00:15:09.680 good vibes. Everyone was happy. Everyone had different outfits on. They all looked hippie.

00:15:14.800 You know, this is a hippie party. People, people dress themselves, dress as themselves, excuse me.

00:15:21.040 And we were at this one stage and we were dancing until sunrise. It was a beautiful night.

00:15:26.400 And then we got tired. We decided that we wanted to sit down and relax before we were going to head

00:15:33.360 home. And we were sitting in this like tent area where there wasn't any music. There was couches and

00:15:39.120 whatnot. So we were sitting there just vibing. And I was sitting with my uncle and he was going through

00:15:44.880 his phone, showing me pictures that he has on his phone, like things that he made, the foods that he's

00:15:50.800 cooked. And like pictures of him and his aunt, his nephew, Amit, which he loved very dearly,

00:15:56.400 just going through photos, showing me photos, which I always look at signs, me personally. And

00:16:01.520 now I think back, I'm like, that's strange that he was showing me all these photos. It was like as

00:16:06.080 if he knew in his soul that it was about to be his ending. It was very interesting. And then the

00:16:13.600 sunrise came up and he's like, let's go dance one last time before we head home. So we went and we were

00:16:19.120 dancing for about 30 minutes and my uncle never tells me, never takes pictures with me. And we

00:16:26.800 were dancing by the tent and you could see the sunrise. It was gorgeous. So I was taking videos.

00:16:32.480 My uncle's like, let's take some photos, Lee. This is a perfect time. I'm like, you're right. Let's do

00:16:37.040 that. So I took up my phone and I started taking selfies with him. And we were dancing and it was

00:16:44.880 beautiful. Everyone was just in such a good mood. And then you see what looked like fireworks coming

00:16:52.320 into the sky. And I thought to myself, this couldn't be fireworks. It's morning. You know,

00:16:57.440 fireworks is in the nighttime. And then it clicked in my brain that this isn't fireworks. This is

00:17:01.600 rockets missiling into Israel from Gaza.

00:17:04.560 Was it coming towards the, are you okay? Yeah, I'm okay. You know, I found out that

00:17:11.120 sighing is very good for me. It releases serious stress. Don't worry.

00:17:14.080 Good. Okay. So the rockets were coming there, were they shelling or looking like they were attempting

00:17:20.960 to hit the music festival or? It was just shooting into the air. It was more farther out. It was going

00:17:28.640 not towards our area, but you could still see them. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and there was a lot of them

00:17:33.360 coming and you, they were coming from all areas. You know, some were coming towards us, but thank God

00:17:39.120 for the, um, for the drone, I'm sorry, for the, there's an iron dome, the iron dome that, you know,

00:17:45.520 protects us from those missiles. Um, so in this area where the party is located, there isn't any sirens

00:17:52.880 because no one lives in this area. It's like an open field. So there wasn't any sirens to alert us.

00:17:59.920 So the people that actually saw the, uh, the, the rockets notified everyone around. And then out of

00:18:07.600 after five minutes of the rockets missiling, they had shut off the music and they were telling everyone

00:18:12.960 to evacuate the party. At this point we were walking towards the car and there was, everyone was walking,

00:18:18.960 leaving the event area. And I remember a lot of the people that were with us, not with us,

00:18:25.520 a lot of people that were at the party, they were saying, it's okay. Don't worry. This is normal.

00:18:30.320 Rockets are being thrown into Israel all the time. This is a normal protocol for them. And they didn't 1.00

00:18:35.760 look scared. Not a lot. Some looked scared and most didn't really, it was normal to them. So I was

00:18:42.560 telling to myself, okay, everything's okay. This is normal. We just have to find shelter. That's,

00:18:47.680 that's our priority at this moment. So, uh, the first time I was in Israel,

00:18:52.320 I was really spooked. It was right after nine 11. I was really spooked. Cause when you see Israel, 1.00

00:18:56.480 you're always like, it's always on fire. There's always people killing people. And it's not like

00:19:01.440 that. And, uh, I was in, I can't remember a border town and they fired a rocket and, um,

00:19:11.600 and it landed by us, but I wasn't freaked out by it's a different vibe. It's different. Cause like,

00:19:18.160 yeah, you know that you're going to be safe. Why? Because when there's rockets being flown into

00:19:22.480 Israel, there's bomb shelters in every home, mostly every home, 90% of the homes have bomb

00:19:28.640 shelters. Not only do the homes have bomb shelters, but there's actually, uh, bomb shelters on the main,

00:19:34.160 on the, on roads next to bomb bus stops. Sorry. Next to boss. I'm sorry. No, no, no. So that's what

00:19:40.240 I was going to get at. You're in the middle of a field. I remember bomb shelters being everywhere.

00:19:45.680 Yeah. So there's normally bomb shelters everywhere in Israel and where we were located,

00:19:50.560 there was bomb shelters at every bus stop. And I had recalled seeing a bomb shelter on the way to the

00:19:57.360 event. I have a good memory. I, I pick, I remember things without realizing it until I need to use it.

00:20:06.000 So when we had evacuated the party and went into the car, our, my, our priority was to find shelter.

00:20:12.640 So my uncle was like, we need to find shelter. We need to find a bomb shelter. And I said to him,

00:20:17.360 I remembered where the bomb shelter is. Let's get onto the main road. I'll direct you to it.

00:20:22.000 Cause there's not, there's not many roads. There's only one road out of this event.

00:20:25.760 And you're 30 minutes on that road.

00:20:27.360 Yeah. You're 30 minutes. Exactly. So I told him, we got out the event. We made a left-hand

00:20:32.400 turn on this main, main road. And we drove about eight minutes down this road until we came across

00:20:39.280 the bus stop on the left-hand side. When we had, I forgot to mention, um, when, when I was at the

00:20:46.080 event area, at the event, I had met up with my cousin, Nitsan and Lidol, but they came in a

00:20:51.440 separate car. So when we got into the cars, we went separate ways because we were in separate cars.

00:20:57.920 So my cousin went into a different bomb shelter than us, but I was in the bomb. I went into the

00:21:03.040 car with my uncle, his daughter, the people that I went to the event, I went with them back into the

00:21:07.920 car. And we got seven. There were seven of us. Exactly. Um, so five of us, uh, five of us got

00:21:14.640 into the car. We went towards the bomb shelter and we parked on the side of the road and we entered

00:21:19.840 the bomb shelter. And when we entered the bomb shelter, of course, this bomb shelter is a five by

00:21:26.400 eight feet, uh, made out of concrete. Most of it is, there's a lot of the, a lot of the space of this

00:21:34.720 by, from this eight by five, five by eight is a lot of concrete. So when you go inside,

00:21:40.080 it's even smaller than the actual size of it outside. I have, I have pictures. Um, I think I

00:21:47.280 sent it. So we entered this bomb shelter and there was about 15 of us inside, mainly girls. A lot of

00:21:55.440 them were screaming and crying, panicking. And in my mind, I'm thinking, okay, we're in a safe place.

00:22:03.440 We're in a bomb shelter. What could happen? What worse could happen if a rocket falls on us or next

00:22:09.680 to us, we're going to be safe because we're inside of a bomb shelter. So in my mind, I was trying to

00:22:14.640 calm myself down and trying to stay positive on the fact that I'm in a safe place. And I started

00:22:20.480 making phone calls. I called my mom. I had let her know what was going on. I told her I'm in a bomb

00:22:25.440 shelter. Everything's okay. Because in my, because at this, in this point, everything was okay.

00:22:30.160 And, uh, this is different than the last call you made to your mom. That's correct. Yes. Yes.

00:22:38.240 I just want to make sure the timeline. Yes, that's correct. That was, that was in the beginning. Um,

00:22:42.720 right when we entered the bomb shelter and you were fairly positive. I was, yeah,

00:22:47.280 I was fairly positive. I was good. And mind you, my Hebrew isn't so well, especially when I'm in,

00:22:53.760 when I'm stressed or I'm going through panic, I don't listen. I can't, the words don't, um,

00:22:59.280 don't go through, don't register through my brain because I'm not focusing. So a lot of people were

00:23:03.680 making conversations, speaking really fast, and I couldn't understand. I couldn't tell what they

00:23:07.680 were saying. And, uh, after 20 of, after 20 minutes of sitting inside this small bomb shelter,

00:23:14.560 it got really hot inside. And I decided I'm going to go outside and take a deep breath and some fresh air.

00:23:19.360 And I went outside the bomb shelter and my uncle Avi was speaking with a, a brave Bedouin man,

00:23:26.800 a friendly Bedouin man that was working the festival grounds. He was also hiding inside the

00:23:32.000 bomb shelter from the rockets. And he came to my uncle and he was speaking to him. And I went up to

00:23:38.320 my uncle and I said, Avi, what is he saying? What is he saying? And my uncle's not answering me. He

00:23:44.000 didn't want to tell me. He said, just go inside the bomb shelter. Later on, after I got,

00:23:49.040 after October 7th, I found out that this, my cousin told me his, Avi's daughter who was with us in the

00:23:55.440 bomb shelter. She told me that this Bedouin man had notified Avi that there was going to be a

00:24:02.080 terrorist attack because he received notice from his family. So this Bedouin man was letting my uncle 0.99

00:24:07.760 know what was going to happen.

00:24:09.600 So for people who don't know, Bedouin is a, a nomadic tribe, Arab, not necessarily pro-Palestinian or

00:24:21.360 anti-Israel or any of it.

00:24:23.200 Not necessarily. Yeah. They, we, there's a lot of, we live with Bedouin, a lot of Bedouins in Israel. 0.73

00:24:28.400 We work with them. Right.

00:24:30.160 Um, so they, they're part of, they're part of Israel, you know, they're the citizens of Israel

00:24:35.040 as well. Um, so they were, he was working the festival grounds and he was with us.

00:24:39.920 And why would his family know about the attack?

00:24:42.320 I'm not sure they got notice. I think maybe if someone found out, um, a lot also when he had

00:24:50.560 been told, when he had let my uncle know this was already after an hour of the rockets being thrown

00:24:56.000 in. And I know that Hamas was posting videos as early as six 45 in the morning. So maybe someone

00:25:03.200 saw it on telegram, maybe someone saw it on the news when it went out. Um, I'm not sure to be honest,

00:25:10.800 but he got notified and he had let my uncle know. And I was there with my uncle when he was speaking

00:25:15.680 to him, but I didn't understand what was going on. And my uncle was just saying, go inside,

00:25:21.280 go inside the bomb shelter, which I'm really grateful. He didn't tell me because I think 0.91

00:25:25.440 I would have panicked if he had told me that there was going to be a terrorist attack.

00:25:30.080 So in my mind, I had no idea that there was going to be a terrorist attack, but everybody else with me

00:25:35.440 inside this bomb shelter, they all knew that there was going to be a terrorist attack.

00:25:40.000 And everyone was screaming and crying and more people started showing up.

00:25:44.400 And at this point, we're about 40 people in this bomb shelter in a five by eight and a five by

00:25:49.760 eight foot concrete box, which is actually smaller than five by eight because more of the space is

00:25:54.560 concrete.

00:25:55.440 Have you, have you ever been to Auschwitz?

00:25:59.280 I know, Michael, I would love to go. I want to go one day.

00:26:02.640 It is extraordinarily difficult when you get into the actual chamber, gas chamber.

00:26:08.960 I'm sure.

00:26:10.320 But that sounds very much like.

00:26:13.920 Like a chamber.

00:26:14.880 I, I, to be honest, I thought I was the Holocaust in the moment. I even, there's text messages of

00:26:20.640 me sending to my family saying, can't believe I'm in this. I can't believe it. I feel like I'm in

00:26:24.960 the Holocaust. It's like history repeats itself. 0.89

00:26:28.000 It does. Okay. So you're in, everybody's panicked, everyone's panicked. And at this

00:26:33.440 point when I had entered this bomb shelter, it was already 90% full. So I was in the entryway

00:26:39.440 of this bomb shelter.

00:26:40.400 Oh my gosh.

00:26:40.880 So I didn't have enough space in towards. And I was with my uncle. So we were trying to get away.

00:26:46.240 We weren't pushing our way in, but every time that there was an inch of space, we would try to

00:26:52.080 move towards it just because everyone was screaming. We didn't understand what was going on. We just

00:26:56.320 wanted to stay inside just in case there was going to be a rocket that hits by the bomb shelter.

00:27:01.600 And you don't want to be at the doorway.

00:27:04.400 And don't want to be at the doorway, especially where I was, where we were, it was a horrible spot.

00:27:09.120 So more people started showing up. And then where we were, there was, it was packed until the entryway

00:27:16.560 of the actual bomb shelter. So the hallway before you enter the box was full of people. So we were

00:27:23.520 packed and you hear this Bedouin man that was speaking to my uncle. After 10 minutes, 10 minutes

00:27:30.400 later, you hear the same Bedouin man screaming at the top of his lungs. He's saying, I don't know what

00:27:36.240 he was saying. Cause he was speaking Arabic, but it sounded like he was saying, I'm Arab, I'm Arab.

00:27:42.400 And after he started screaming those words, what sounded like a thousand bullets were going

00:27:48.480 towards, were going off towards the hallway of the bomb shelter.

00:27:53.600 And machine gun fire, machine gun on automatic. Yeah. And who everyone that was standing in the hallway of

00:28:00.960 the bomb shelter and including our friend, Alex, who was guarding the bomb shelter,

00:28:06.720 they all died instantly. And I think there was about five to eight of them standing in the hallway.

00:28:11.760 It was a very small hallway, so it couldn't fit much people, but there was a lot of people.

00:28:17.120 Well, eight people is a lot, you know, and, and your friend, Alex was one.

00:28:22.400 Alex was one of them. I think he was one of the first, because he told us from the beginning that

00:28:28.400 he's going to guard this bomb, he said that he's going to guard this bomb shelter and he's not going

00:28:33.200 to let nobody pass. And he did just that, to be honest. What a guardian. He was a big guardian.

00:28:39.920 In fact, the videos that were released of people like other civilians that were in the bomb shelter,

00:28:46.800 there's videos of Alex outside the bomb shelter. And you see him guarding the bomb shelter just

00:28:52.880 with no fear. Like he had no fear, even from the moment that the rockets were going off. He had no

00:28:57.840 fear. I applause him. He's a, he's a hero. He's a big hero. So when the terrorists started shooting

00:29:04.720 off towards the hallway, everyone who was in the hallway died instantly, fell on the floor and the

00:29:12.640 terrorists walked into the bomb shelter, walked into, in towards the hallway of the bomb shelter,

00:29:19.680 got towards the, the doorway of the bomb shelter where me and my uncle were standing. We were standing,

00:29:25.120 but there was some people in front of us. And the terrorists aimed the gun inside, the automatic gun

00:29:32.080 inside the shelter and started shooting on automatic for 20 seconds. I'm going like this,

00:29:38.800 trying to kill as many of us as possible. And then after they started shooting,

00:29:44.880 they threw two grenade bomb, two grenades back to back inside the bomb shelter.

00:29:51.520 It's five by eight. It's a five by eight. Yeah. It's, but these, this grenade isn't like the,

00:29:57.200 you, I don't know the difference. I've never seen explosions of grenades, but it was a,

00:30:02.640 I think it's a handmade grenade or it's made from, I don't know, to be honest. I don't want to say

00:30:08.400 the wrong information, but what happens when this grenade explodes, um, particles explodes with it.

00:30:14.240 And this particles, it like can break, take your hand off. It can take your foot off. It can,

00:30:19.840 it flies everywhere. And like, and it's hot too. It's like hot metal. So the grenades exploded

00:30:26.960 and everyone who was around, like standing around this grenade all got killed instantly.

00:30:32.640 Um, and the second grenade that had exploded, um, and the second grenade that had exploded,

00:30:36.400 a big piece of it exploded on my uncle's chest. And he had died instantly while he was standing next

00:30:44.240 to me side by side. And this was just the beginning. I was just 7 45 in the morning.

00:30:52.800 They threw in, um, this glass. It was a glass bottle full of fluids with a piece of leather on it,

00:31:01.440 not leather, like a piece of a t-shirt or something. And they light it, a Molotov and

00:31:05.760 they throw it inside. When the glass shatters, it will light on fire. So they threw two bottles

00:31:12.160 of this inside the shelter and it didn't explode because there was so many bodies inside the shelter

00:31:18.400 that it didn't, it didn't, uh, shatter the glass. Thank God. But what, but it didn't shatter,

00:31:24.640 but it did explode. There was, um, like a smoke bomb that had entered the bomb shelter from this,

00:31:32.240 from this bottle. And the smoke bomb, it chokes you. I was about to run out. I was thinking to

00:31:39.040 myself, okay, I'm going to run out. I need to, I need to breathe. I'm going to die. I'm going to die.

00:31:43.120 And something in my, in me told me, no, Lee, you need to stay in here. You need to find strategies

00:31:47.520 to stay alive. And I was looking on the floor for something. I don't know what I was looking for,

00:31:51.920 but I had, I was choking from air and I wanted to cover my face and had a jacket that was sitting

00:31:58.080 around my waist that I was in fact debating to bring to the event. I took it off my chest,

00:32:03.040 off my waist. I put it over my head and I had crawled to the floor into a ball. And I started

00:32:08.640 breathing really slowly and focusing on my breathing. And I had, that's when I realized

00:32:14.720 that my uncle had just got hit by the grenade. It was like, all of this happened back to back.

00:32:20.320 Like there was no time to even focus, to acknowledge, to even process what, what just had happened.

00:32:27.360 And I'm sitting there and I see my uncle dead next to me. And I see people in front of me all dead.

00:32:34.240 I see a girl that her face was blown off from the gunshots, a girl that her back had her,

00:32:40.880 her back got exploded from the grenade and she was screaming, screaming. And we were asking her

00:32:46.800 to be quiet. We understood that she was, she was in, she was in so much pain, but every time that she

00:32:53.280 was screaming, the terrorist would enter again and throw more grenades and would try to eliminate us. And

00:33:00.320 at this point we're like maybe 15 of us alive inside this bomb shelter out of the 40 in this moment.

00:33:10.160 This is, but this is still the morning and this group of terrorists would leave.

00:33:15.600 And then you would hear another group of terrorists coming with, uh, in the different forms of

00:33:21.040 transportation they would come with by on motorcycles and trucks, on cars. You would hear them always in a

00:33:27.520 different style of transportation. And I could hear it cause I was so focusing on the sounds.

00:33:33.120 Cause that's all I could do in this moment. Cause I was closing my eyes.

00:33:38.480 And in this moment I would hear the terrorists come back again and I would pick up all the bodies

00:33:44.560 that had just died and I would put them over me to shield myself from any of the explosions that

00:33:51.920 they would throw into the bomb shelter. What was that like? It was, it was,

00:34:00.240 I can't even explain to you what we've been, what I've been through, what we've been through.

00:34:05.360 And I don't know how I had the energy or the power, but I, during this moments,

00:34:10.320 these moments that we're being terrorized by these terrorists, I took my phone out and I started

00:34:15.440 contacting my fiance. I started calling my mom. I started right when I, when my uncle died,

00:34:21.760 I called my mom to tell her what happened and she couldn't understand me cause it was no service.

00:34:27.040 She's like, what? Hello? Hello? I can't hear you. And so I hung up and I sent her a voice message

00:34:31.520 and that's the voice message that you, you heard. Um, it was right in the moment that's,

00:34:36.720 you can hear the terror in my voice and not only my voice, but the people around me in the background,

00:34:41.760 like it was so traumatizing. And every 30 minutes, new terrorists would attack us and they would throw

00:34:51.520 our, they would throw hand grenades. And there was, there was this one time that they threw an RPG,

00:34:57.360 the bomb shelter. And when they threw this RPG, it was like the bit, like all of the blasts are allowed

00:35:03.680 to begin with, but this explosion, I'll never forget it. It was like our whole bodies, whoever was dead

00:35:10.400 and alive. We all like, like our bodies went up into the air and like fell back down just from the

00:35:16.720 blast of the explosion. And every time that they attacked us, you would hear the excitement and

00:35:24.080 the joy in their voices. They would scream, and they would, you, you hear them screaming of laughter,

00:35:31.680 of, of joy. Like, this is like, this turns them on. Like, that's exactly how I felt. Like,

00:35:39.840 it was horrible. It was, it was horrible. We were in this bomb shelter for eight hours.

00:35:46.080 Eight? Eight hours. And every 30 minutes? And every 30 minutes, the terrorists, new terrorists would attack us.

00:35:52.160 There was a point that I had like three bodies on me. Oh my gosh. Like I wanted them. Every time that

00:36:01.680 someone would die, unfortunately, I would pick them up and I would put them with me, or I would pick them

00:36:05.360 up and I'd put them in the entrance, like in the doorway to block us, like to, to shield us from the

00:36:12.080 grenades. So were they walking on the bodies in the hallway to get to, or were they just doing everything

00:36:18.720 from the hallway, the entrance? So in the beginning, when they first attacked us, when they killed Alex

00:36:24.800 in the hallway and everyone in the beginning, they had walked, the terrorists had walked into the bomb

00:36:30.480 shelter and attacked inside. But after that one time, they just kept throwing grenades and would

00:36:36.720 shoot from the hallway. So where are you in a square if the hallway is in the front? Um, this is a

00:36:45.360 question. So I'm like right by the entryway of the door, but you're off. Like there was like a little

00:36:51.600 wall that saved me, but this little wall, there was a wall and then there was like the entry doorway,

00:36:58.640 but there was no door. So it was like a doorless way. Right. So I was right by the front. I, in fact,

00:37:03.600 when we got rescued, I was the first person outside the shelter. That's how close I was. I was the first

00:37:09.280 person alive. Um, not alive, but I was the first person like in front, like it was a line of people.

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00:39:34.240 slash back. It's unimaginable being under dead people. Uh, it was, was there any thought or was that just

00:39:48.080 a natural instinct? It's thank you for asking this because you know, even for myself, if I, if you asked

00:39:56.320 me this before I'd be like, what I was under dead bodies, that's insane. Never. I never felt more safe

00:40:05.520 being under the dead bodies. Like I felt the safest with them on me rather than being without them with

00:40:12.320 like on top of my body. Like it was a, it was a survival mode instinct. It was definitely survival

00:40:20.960 motive. I was in survival mode. I was looking, I was thinking about strategies to survive. Like in the

00:40:29.440 moments when they were attacking me, I was thinking about how am I going to survive this? I was, I

00:40:35.920 remember my uncle had died. I was like, okay, he has a, he has a pair of keys in his wallet in his pocket

00:40:40.880 and he has a phone. My phone has 20%. So I was thinking about like, what's, what's going to happen

00:40:46.240 later on this day? You know what I mean? Cause I had 20% on my phone and I was, I was trying to

00:40:53.120 grab my uncle's phone. So that way I could have a second backup phone and I was trying to grab his

00:40:57.360 car keys. So that way when the terrorists would leave, I could get into his car and drive off,

00:41:02.560 which at the end I wasn't able to get his car keys, which I'm glad I didn't, because I think it would

00:41:08.240 have saved my, it saved my life. I would have been shot. Met them on the road. Yeah. I would have met them on

00:41:12.160 the road, but I was trying to stay positive and trying to help others around me. I was putting

00:41:18.160 bodies on them. I was trying to help this girl that was in front of me. I don't know how she stayed.

00:41:23.200 I don't know how she's alive. Like it was a miracle that she stayed alive because she was in front, but

00:41:28.480 she had gotten shot and she was right where the grenades were exploding. Oh my gosh. I mean, I was also

00:41:35.200 there, but she was even closer. Um, did you guys talk in those 30 minutes or what was the eight

00:41:43.600 hours? Yeah. Um, in the moment, in the beginning, we were all in shock. Even myself, I didn't cry.

00:41:51.920 I didn't speak. I only spoke to my family on the phone cause I needed, I wanted to get us help. Um,

00:41:58.160 but I didn't speak with anyone around me for the first two hours. We were all like in shock. We were

00:42:04.480 all kind of dozed off, uh, so disassociated with the world. Like I was aware and a focus of

00:42:11.360 everything, but I was like staring into the wall, you know, my, and you know, they say your life

00:42:17.120 flashes before your eyes. Like my life really flashed. Like I started daydreaming about my life

00:42:23.520 growing up when I was a kid, like all of this, it was crazy. It was insane. Um, but after a few

00:42:33.040 hours we did start talking, we were trying to help each other. We were looking for waters inside the

00:42:38.000 shelter. I mean, there was this one water bottle that we found had this much water and we were like

00:42:43.040 eight, nine people at this point, nine of us, each of us took sips and we were all passing it to one

00:42:49.600 another. We were all trying to help each other. Like we weren't selfish. Everyone was, was very, um,

00:42:56.320 Altruistic. Everybody looking for each other. Everyone was looking out for each other. No one

00:43:04.000 left anyone behind. We all, we were keeping each other staying, we were talking to each other and

00:43:10.560 staying positive, making conversation. In fact, I was speaking to everyone. I was saying to them,

00:43:15.600 what are you going to do when you get out? What are you going to eat? How universal? What's the

00:43:22.960 first thing you're going to eat? What are you going to do when you get out? Yeah. And they were looking

00:43:26.800 at me like, you're crazy. Like we're not going to get out of this, but I'm like trying to stay

00:43:31.200 positive, trying to stay positive. Um, I was screaming to God. I was praying to God. I was

00:43:38.880 screaming. I was telling everybody, cause I have a grandpa who was a big, big rabbi in my, in my

00:43:44.560 ancestry. And I was telling them, don't worry. My grandpa's protecting us, screaming his name,

00:43:50.560 like being a, like a crazy lady, you know, it's funny. Cause you are the, you are maybe the poster 0.70

00:43:59.760 child for there are no atheist in the foxhole. You didn't go in an atheist, but you didn't,

00:44:06.240 you weren't a big God person. I wasn't a big God person. And I mean, I, I've always felt God around,

00:44:12.560 but growing up, I never was taught my religion as much as I wanted to now as a person. Um,

00:44:22.080 and I feel very close to God. I feel like God gave me a second chance in life. And I think,

00:44:28.320 I feel like I owe it to God to be closer to my religion and to, to my roots. So I can pass this

00:44:36.640 down to my children. Like, it's very important to me, especially after what happened on October 7th.

00:44:41.760 So there's two ways to go from that. So let me first stop here. Did you bargain with God?

00:44:49.920 I did.

00:44:51.200 I would have too.

00:44:53.920 I bargained with God. I said to him two things. I said, if I'm going to die, just let me die

00:44:59.680 without suffering. Cause there was a lot that a lot of, a lot of people that suffered in front of

00:45:05.440 me and it was horrifying to see that. And I said, the second thing is if I get out of this alive,

00:45:11.120 I will do everything I can in my power to be closer to you every week, every month, you know,

00:45:19.200 it's just to be closer and to, to, to do my duties, you know, as a Jewish person and respect.

00:45:27.520 Go to Shabbat, which I'll be honest, it's not easy to keep Shabbat, especially when you come from

00:45:34.560 a home where you never kept Shabbat, you know, it's, it's, it's baby steps. The Jewish, the Jewish 0.99

00:45:41.200 life is not easy. It's not easy. It's not easy. It's not easy, but I do believe in baby steps. I feel

00:45:48.000 like when I do baby steps and I take small, every week I do something more, it, it, it makes it easier

00:45:55.280 for me to, to move to that side, to be more closer and to start keeping Shabbat fully. I'll be honest.

00:46:02.240 I kept since October 7th, I've kept Shabbat four times, um, fully, but, uh, it's been a little bit

00:46:09.520 hard, but I'm every week I'm getting better. And I, and when I don't do it fully, I feel guilt within me

00:46:15.920 and I feel it. Like, I feel like I'm doing something bad, which at least if I feel that

00:46:20.960 guilt, I have, well, hopefully it gets better. You know what I mean? Hopefully it will

00:46:26.400 turn in. Cause I, I was the same way when I first realized and bargained with God. And the first

00:46:34.320 part was, uh, I made this promise and I would feel guilty. And then it turns into, I don't want to do

00:46:44.120 anything other than this. I, this is so good. It is good. Yeah. And it's rewarding. Yeah. Yeah. And

00:46:51.440 when I do it, I feel closer to God even more. Like I feel the presence. I feel the rewardness. I feel

00:46:59.200 like good things happen. Good people come around me. Yeah. You know, you are who you hang out with.

00:47:05.520 Yeah. It's a big thing. So, which is a good thing on your fiance. Yes. Yeah. And he's very close to God.

00:47:12.240 So, I mean, it's saved his life. It did save his life. And I, even for him, he went through different

00:47:17.840 trauma, but because of this whole thing, him not coming to the event and him standing with his grounds

00:47:23.440 on not coming, um, I think that opened his eyes even more on being closer to, to God on his end as

00:47:31.280 well. So the other way to look at this is not just you spiritually, but there've been 19 holocausts, 19.

00:47:44.480 This keeps happening over and over again. And I, I know because I've, I've worried about

00:47:57.600 the cycle repeating for the last 20 years I've been talking about. We're planting all the wrong seeds.

00:48:03.600 And, um, a lot of Jewish people didn't see it coming. Didn't, didn't recognize the seeds that are 0.99

00:48:16.480 always planted before. And those who went through the Holocaust never again, and they taught it. And

00:48:27.360 I think some went one way where they said, I don't want to be with God. Okay. If this,

00:48:33.280 God lets this happen. I know others were connected to their Jewishness, if you will, and to their God. 0.77

00:48:42.320 And it, it carries with it, I imagine, um, responsibility, um, a deeper,

00:48:55.680 a need almost to know your roots, know why you're Jewish, know why the world is doing this. Am I right 1.00

00:49:08.640 or wrong? I agree. It's important. It's important for the Jewish people to know where they came from

00:49:14.480 and to know their ancestors and their history. Because if we don't know what happened in the past,

00:49:20.320 then it history is going to repeat itself and it's going to fall off. And not just with history,

00:49:25.840 but with a religion, you know? Yeah. It's unbelievable. So you're now,

00:49:34.960 what time do we go to that you're in the shelter? You're starting to talk to one another. People are

00:49:43.520 still coming in. What time does this change? Um, around two o'clock, long hours from around 2 PM,

00:49:52.400 a car rolled up and we heard a man speaking in Hebrew. And at first we were all very scared,

00:49:59.680 you know, cause we were terrified that this was a terrorist, you know, pretending to speak Hebrew.

00:50:04.480 Right. So, um, we didn't answer this man and the voice came closer and he started entering the bomb 0.50

00:50:12.000 shelter and he said, Nitsan, it's the Abba, which means Nitsan, it's Abba. Nitsan is a girl that was

00:50:19.120 with us in the shelter. It's dad. It's dad. And my cousin's husband, who was sitting next to me,

00:50:25.200 he said, they're here to save us. Get up, get up. And I was the first person. I got up so fast. I had

00:50:32.720 ran over the bodies to the car. And when I had got into the car, I was by myself outside and I got

00:50:40.160 so scared cause I saw a car coming. I didn't know if this is a terrorist or if this is backup or

00:50:45.680 whatever the case. So I had ran back into the bomb shelter, running over the bodies.

00:50:50.400 And the father looked at me, he's like, what are you doing here? Go back to the car. And I got so

00:50:55.280 scared. So I went back to the car. Like I was so like, I didn't know what to do. I was, I was just so

00:51:01.520 strange comfort. It was just weird. It was so strange. So we ended up all getting into the car

00:51:06.880 after five minutes. Um, we were nine of us in the car. How many out of the original seven that came

00:51:13.760 with you from the seven? Um, so cause we went to, we entered this bomb shelter, only five of us from

00:51:20.000 the seven. So from the five of us that entered this bomb shelter, only three of us survived to my uncle

00:51:26.640 Avi and our friend Alex died in this bomb shelter. Um, right away. Right. Yeah. In the beginning,

00:51:34.320 Alex died. He was in the hallway. And then Avi was with next to me when, when they threw the first

00:51:39.920 grenades into the shelter in the beginning, they both died in the beginning in the morning.

00:51:44.560 Um, but, uh, we got into the car and Nitsan's father said to us, don't look outside the window,

00:51:52.080 put your head down. And we couldn't listen. We didn't listen to him. We had to do just that.

00:51:56.640 We had to look outside the window and the drive back to safety was a war zone. You could like this,

00:52:03.360 there was a one way road, this road that I had that I was just telling you earlier. It's very small.

00:52:08.960 It's like one car in each lane. Like there's one lane this way and one lane that way. It's one lane

00:52:13.200 per car, one car per lane. And the lane was full of dead bodies that we couldn't even drive on the

00:52:20.320 road. We had to drive on the dirt path where the field is to get to, to get to like an open space

00:52:27.440 road without bodies and cars burned to death. Uh, it was horrible. Um, when we drove on the dirt path,

00:52:35.280 it was on where the, where they do all the farming, you see all the dead people on the ground,

00:52:40.160 like they were running for their lives and they got shot. You saw people with their heads chopped off,

00:52:47.360 people burned cars that were burnt. It was worse than a scene of the walking dead. I don't know

00:52:53.680 if you've seen that show before. It's even worse than that. Worse than that. The things that we saw

00:52:59.920 was inhumane. Not even animals do that to their own prey. You know, uh, it was horrible. It's terrible.

00:53:12.560 What do you want people to take away from our time together?

00:53:17.120 It's important for people to know what's really happening and to actually do their history,

00:53:23.440 look up their history and to know actual facts instead of reading, um, fake news and on social

00:53:29.920 media. Cause right now I feel like a lot of people are being fed misled information and that's causing

00:53:38.640 a lot of, um, that's causing a lot of issues for us on our end. And it's, it's horrible.

00:53:46.480 Usually what happens? I mean, I'm so struck by the repeat of history here where,

00:53:56.320 you know, we didn't have videos, but we had eyewitnesses and the world didn't listen.

00:54:01.360 No one didn't listen.

00:54:02.480 And it's not, I used to think it was because it's so horrible. Why would you believe that? You

00:54:08.160 couldn't believe that. But now there's video. Now we, we know it, we've seen it, we've heard it.

00:54:15.040 And for some reason, they still don't believe us till they don't believe it. No, even with video,

00:54:22.640 they say it's AI, huh? What the AI can do something like this?

00:54:29.040 You know, my cousin Nitsan and her boyfriend lead door when they had gone separate ways,

00:54:34.240 they went in their car, we turned left. They had turned right on this main road, unfortunately.

00:54:39.840 And they entered this bomb, a different bomb shelter than us.

00:54:45.680 And in this bomb shelter, the terrorist, in fact, um, they murdered my cousin and her boyfriend.

00:54:53.840 And there was a video of my cousin's boyfriend running outside the bomb shelter as the terrorists

00:55:00.320 are shooting him to death. It went viral. I'm sure you've seen it.

00:55:04.080 Um, and in this specific bomb shelter, they kidnapped people. I mean,

00:55:11.520 Hirsch, I don't know about Hirsch's story. Hirsch was in this bomb shelter with my cousin, Nitsan,

00:55:15.760 Lido. I hope they bring Hirsch home. So I just have to say that. It's really important.

00:55:21.920 But my cousin, Nitsan, she was four months pregnant when they murdered her.

00:55:29.200 Four months pregnant. It was so sad. It was so sad to coming home after being saved,

00:55:37.680 having to go to my cousin's funeral and my uncle's funeral and my cousin's boyfriend's funeral.

00:55:43.760 It was just like, just to see them being buried when I was just with them a few days ago, you know?

00:55:52.640 Somebody told me recently,

00:55:57.280 what, how would your life change if you would start to view things as

00:56:06.000 things? Things aren't happening to you, but they're happening for you.

00:56:17.280 And it's hard on something like this to look at it that way. But I think you are. I think you're,

00:56:25.680 you're taking it and finding the good to come from it. And I, I can't thank you enough for being with

00:56:35.200 me. And I can't thank you for sharing this. Thank you, Glenn. God bless you. God bless you too.

00:56:40.640 Thank you. Thank you for noticing that I'm, I'm trying to, to look at the positive. I'm a positive

00:56:46.480 person. That's my nature. I don't think they'll ever change. I mean, there's going to be days where

00:56:51.440 I feel bad, negative. I mean, who doesn't? But I try to look at the positive. I say that I feel like my

00:57:00.000 uncle died to save us, to save me, his daughter and his son-in-law. And along with the others that

00:57:09.200 had survived with me inside this bomb shelter, because if there's no way that we survived,

00:57:14.720 it was, it was a miracle. It was an absolute miracle. Especially after I seeing my uncle die

00:57:22.000 in front of me. And it's not like he was sitting like where you are. He was next to me. Like,

00:57:26.560 like, like he guarded me. He shielded me. It was like, God knew everything. Like we don't see the

00:57:34.880 whole picture. You know, we just see this, but God knows, has the whole picture. It's a puzzle to

00:57:40.820 every piece, you know? God bless you. Thank you, Glenn. God bless you too.

00:57:45.080 Just a reminder, I'd love you to rate and subscribe to the podcast and pass this on to a friend so it

00:57:56.580 can be discovered by other people.

The Glenn Beck Program - December 02, 2023

Ep 203 ｜ 'I Covered Myself with Bodies'： Hamas Attack Survivor Details EVIL ｜ Lee Sasi ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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