Ep 206 ｜ Is Canada’s Tyrannical Regime America’s Future？ ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast
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Summary
With Democrats promising to crack down on your freedoms in the name of democracy, I wanted to get some advice from one of Canada s most fearless freedom fighters, Ezra Levant, founder and owner of Rebel News and host of the popular podcast, The Rebel Report.
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If you think it's hard to be a conservative in America, I want you to take a look at the PRC, the secret police.
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They're arresting journalists for asking questions.
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Local politicians are targeting Christians for their beliefs.
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The country's leader is waging legal warfare against protesters and even froze their bank accounts.
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But I'm not talking about the People's Republic of China.
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We need to pay attention because our neighbors to the north are always just a few steps ahead of us on things like this.
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And the Trudeau regime, the crackdown on the press, is one of the most disturbing examples in the world.
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Nearly every media outlet has fallen in line, except for one.
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For years now, the Trudeau regime has had rebel news in its sight.
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But instead of bending the knee, they're fighting political warfare with legal warfare.
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So, with Democrats promising to crack down on your freedoms in the name of democracy, I wanted to get some advice from one of Canada's most fearless freedom fighters.
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Please welcome my dear friend, Rebel News founder and owner, Ezra Levant.
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You know, it's been a challenging little while, but we're fighting back.
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Most people don't know this, I think, but we kind of have a parallel path in some ways.
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But you started a media company, and you were on cable and everything else, and they kind of pounded the humor out of you.
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And your job is becoming more and more serious all the time.
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And you really, unlike us, when we first started, we were alone.
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But now others have joined us because of the way Canada is.
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There's a couple of other small independent startups, but really, you can count them on one hand.
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If there's 100 candles in a room, and you snuff out five of them, it's still pretty bright.
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You snuff out 50, it's starting to get a little dimmer.
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And each candle you snuff out is more and more important.
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And if there's two candles left, you snuff out one of them.
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But that last candle, it's all the difference between light and dark.
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And the analogy I'm making is Trudeau has colonized 80, 90, 95, 99% of the media.
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But in a way, he rages against that last candle the most.
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Because if he can't snuff it out, what was the point of snuffing out the first 99?
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And there are so few independent journalists in Canada, and it's so tiny.
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But his rage gets angrier and angrier with every year.
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The government's bringing in a code of conduct for news journalists.
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One of your reporters, Menzies, I think is his name?
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And he is just on the street, just asking a question.
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He's sort of old school shoe leather journalist.
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He went to a vigil for victims of an Iranian terrorist attack.
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The Islamic Republican Guard Corps shot down a commercial airliner, killing hundreds of people, including more than 50 Canadians.
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So there's a large Persian community in Canada that was mourning the anniversary of that.
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So our guy, David Menzies, went there and he saw the deputy prime minister walking into the vigil.
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But Canada refuses to call the Islamic Republican Guard Corps, IRGC, refuses to call that a terrorist group, refuses to designate a terrorist group.
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And it is one of the most recognized terrorist groups.
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And so it's such a paradox because Canada has been so wounded by them.
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There was a report that there are 700 IRGC operatives working in Canada and it's legal.
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So our guy Menzies bumped into the deputy prime minister at this vigil.
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And as she was walking in, he just walked up to her with a microphone.
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He just put the microphone to her and said, why won't you ban this terrorist group?
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And then he asked a second time, why are you allowing these Islamic Nazis to go unchecked?
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I mean, they weren't perfect questions, but he put but they were fair questions.
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This deputy prime minister's bodyguard swarmed David, smacked him up against the wall and said, you're under arrest for assault.
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And then they handcuffed him and they frog marched him to a police car and they drove him away.
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And the thing is, all the cops at once said, you assaulted you, we saw your assault.
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And they all said this at the same time, except we caught it all on tape.
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It was it's one of the most terrifying things I've ever seen.
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And not because of the one cop, but because, as you said, all the cops, they all went along and you can see on the tape.
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He's just walking the the assistant prime minister or deputy prime minister steps a different way.
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So he's kind of shadowing her in a way he's backing up.
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He only brushes shoulders with with her security.
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And it's because that guy who's looking at him doesn't move.
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This bodyguard sort of moves into place so that David will brush up against him.
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And the facility, the ease, the calmness with which they all said, you did it.
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I mean, arresting a reporter is sort of shocking.
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And if we didn't have it on tape, absolutely, David would be in jail right now.
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And this is the second time that Royal Canadian Mounted Police bodyguards have done this to David.
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They have a special detail that protects the VIPs.
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Canada had really harsh lockdowns during the pandemic.
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And I remember one Christmas, a couple of years ago, Trudeau said, do not have your family over for Christmas.
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But then Trudeau had a $1,700 ahead, which is the maximum you can give in Canada, Christmas fundraiser at a restaurant.
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You just said, so our guy, David Menzies, shoe leather reporter, stands outside the restaurant in the snowy cold for an hour waiting for Trudeau to arrive.
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And he's not going to get an answer, but it'll be, why are you here when we can't have...
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And he was waiting outside the restaurant with the local Toronto police for an hour.
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It was just him, our cameraman, and the local Toronto cops waiting in the snow for an hour for Trudeau to arrive.
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And I'm certain that the cops, the bodyguards in the entourage radioed ahead to the local cops and said, breaker, breaker, what's going on over there?
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He said, oh, because the cops, the local cops were fine with him.
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He's a 60-something reporter with two artificial hips.
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And our reporters are assaulted regularly during the trucker convoy.
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The RCMP shot our reporter, Alexa Lavoie, in the leg with a riot gun, which is not meant to be used against.
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A huge, like it wasn't a bullet, but it was like a wadding of a.
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They were giving first aid all over town, except for the one person they shot.
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What's the odds that the only shooting in the whole police company, the only person shot was our reporter?
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And I know I'm sounding paranoid, but I tell you.
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He's the son of Pierre Trudeau, who was the communist.
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Pierre Trudeau took his young boys to the Soviet Union when it was still the Soviet Union.
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He took his young sons to communist China before it even had any free market reforms.
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And when Justin Trudeau was running for prime minister, he was asked an unprompted question.
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Chinese food, Chinese history, Chinese architecture, Chinese, there's a lot to admire about China, actually.
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But the odious thing about China is its dictatorship.
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He said, China, comma, because of its basic dictatorship.
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He, remember when his father died, Castro came and was a pallbearer for Pierre Trudeau.
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When his father died, then Pierre came in and carried Castro's casket, right?
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You know, the pictures of a young Justin Trudeau and a young Fidel Castro are uncanny.
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And Pierre Trudeau and his young, beautiful wife, Margaret Trudeau, vacationed in Cuba all the time.
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And I'm not here willing to say categorically that Justin Trudeau is actually genetically the son of Fidel Castro.
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But I'm here to say that Fidel Castro, it was certainly a father figure in terms of ideology.
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And Justin Trudeau, how is it Canadians who are different?
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You know, we don't have, you know, we never liked government involved in everything.
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And you pretty much embrace that as Canadians most.
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But beyond that, we've always been very similar.
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You are going down a road that is including infanticide now.
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You're offing your elderly, the depressed, the handicapped.
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We have a real problem with checks and balances in Canada.
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We don't have a system that is designed to counter itself as you do here.
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In Canada, the prime minister just says, ta-da, here's your new Supreme Court judge.
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Canada used to have, well, I wouldn't say it was a robust media, but we did have an independent
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In the last eight years, Justin Trudeau has used both carrot and stick.
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I mentioned some of the actual sticks they use against, yeah, mainly Rebel News journalists.
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It's, you know, I happen to be the boss of Rebel News.
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We are, one of our largest expenses is security for our journalists, but security will not
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Security put their weapons down when police come.
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What, if I was asked, Ezra, how would you subvert the First Amendment?
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And I would say, hey, publishers, it's pretty tough out there these days in the media business.
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Facebook and Google are really taking all your dough.
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And through that gentle corruption of financial colonization, 99% of Canadian journalists have
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So if you take money from Trudeau and report on Trudeau, even if it's just subconsciously,
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And certainly your publisher is going to nix anything that's too inflammatory.
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That would undermine press independence more than a stick.
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In fact, a stick might get journalists to remember their independence, to remember their
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But if you just say, well, it's so tough out there, you need the government to help you.
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They're calling the Qualified Canadian Journalism Organization.
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You have to apply to Rebel News is down, de-boosted, and the state broadcaster is boosted.
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That's already happening for ideological and corporate reasons.
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But Bill C-11 gives Justin Trudeau the power to alter the discoverability, that's the phrase
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You've got your news license, your Qualified Canadian Journalism Organization, that's a
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And now the state can tell Facebook, Google, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, who to boost and
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Sometimes it's a fast strangulation when you see them actually arrest our guys.
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Because they wanted to show their domination over.
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They did that because they wanted to show who's boss.
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Do you think the Canadians, the average Canadian, is waking up to that?
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What's interesting in Canada is Trudeau has the least support.
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The younger you get, the less support one form or another in the convoy.
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Whether it was just for a few miles or the whole way, but I think a million people actually got out of their homes and went to see it pass by because they wanted to see if it was real as opposed to the propaganda that they were getting fed on their internet.
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You know, Orwell said, the hope lies with the proles.
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All the experts, all the civil liberties experts who hit the snooze button for three years, all the fancy people, all the PhDs, all the MDs, they went silent.
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It was those working class truckers who saved the country.
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And Trudeau said, uh-huh, this is the January 6th narrative.
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He talked to, he wanted to graft that American narrative onto Canada.
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The only shooting, as I mentioned before, was the police shooting our reporter.
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And so, but the thing is, the media, the regime media, the subsidized media, they believed that these were scary terrorists.
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And they would have carried out Trudeau's narrative were it not for citizen journalists.
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And I remember February of 2022 when the convoy was at its peak.
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And I just said, turn on your phone and live stream.
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And we had 400 million views and impressions in that month.
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But we were as large that month as the state broadcaster.
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Because everyone said, I don't want to hear some pundit disparaging the truckers.
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And we had kids working weeks and weeks without a break because they knew they were part of a historic moment.
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But that one moment, I think the whole world sort of said, what's going on in Canada?
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People were unironically waving Canadian flags, just spontaneously singing the anthem.
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I felt like I was going to like a patriotic Woodstock or something.
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And Ottawa is just across the river from Quebec, the French-speaking place.
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Imagine the feeling of all these French-speaking truckers coming and saying, you know, Viva Freedom or whatever it was.
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And in fact, to this day, the regime median now says the word freedom and the Canadian flag are radical symbols.
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The Canadian flag is so being reconquered by the freedom people that now the Trudeau people look down on it.
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And I see now in Germany, the farmers and the truckers, I think the Canadians actually set a bit of a template for others around the world.
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Even though Canada is dark in many ways, there is hope.
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And I had a lot of friends who moved to America during the lockdowns.
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There was a curfew from 10 p.m. to 5 a.m. during the pandemic.
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You could not leave your personal residence between 10 p.m. and 5 a.m.
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Do you know how many Canadians just said, I am out of here and all went to Florida?
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I mean, there's a lot of French Canadians in Florida to begin with.
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We were able to that was that marked the inflection point in the polls when Trudeau brought in the War Measures Act.
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Trudeau deployed a form of martial law, seized hundreds of bank accounts without legal process, jailed some of the trucker leaders.
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And some of them are still in jail, are they not?
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Now, they have some more serious charges against them.
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There's four of them have been in prison almost 700 days.
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And but slowly these cases are working their way through court.
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We started a civil liberties charity called the Democracy Fund took about 3,000 cases.
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Trudeau was fining people 5,000, 6,000 bucks if they didn't, if they returned to Canada and didn't declare their VAX status, if they didn't fill out some government app.
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Trudeau created a government app that to come back to your own country, you're a Canadian citizen, you're coming back to your own country.
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If you did not fill out a government app saying if you were jabbed or not, you would have a $5,000 or $6,000 fine.
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So a family of four, that's more than 20 grand in fines.
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And so we created a civil liberties charity called the Democracy Fund and we just sort of said we're going to take every case, not just one or two, we're going to take hundreds.
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In the end, we took 3,000 cases and that jammed the system.
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In fact, most of those cases, the prosecution has just said we don't have the resources and they've either dropped the cases or settled for a trifle.
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If only one or two people had stood up, the state would have come down on them like a ton of bricks.
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But do you really have enough courthouses, enough judges, enough prosecutors to have 3,000 trials?
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So the very fact that an enormous number of people stood up and said, no, see you in court, as opposed to cowering and paying.
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The fact that so many people did it is the reason they won.
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And I'm telling you a lot of different related stories, but I believe in Canada.
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I feel like I have to be the last one to leave.
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Our mission at Rebel News is to tell the other side of the story.
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But every once in a while, we stop and do something, too.
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We crowdfunded the lawyers for these 3,000 people I mentioned.
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What if Trudeau brings in millions of people from other countries that don't believe in freedom?
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Because when you said, you know, I believe in Canada and I and I will stay in Canada.
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I think when you said that, my first thought was LGBTQ, you say something, anything that's not even disparaging.
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I'll bet you that Persian community does not like the current regime.
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But there are those who are coming in who have ill intent, want Sharia law in their own no-go zone and eventually for the whole thing.
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You ever think to yourself, I've never understood why people didn't get out of Germany until now.
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My whole life, I mean, I grew up in a, actually, in the countryside.
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I mean, I went to Jewish school in the city, but then I went to school in the country.
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And my sister and I were the only two Jews in a school of 400 kids.
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There were two Chinese kids, two black kids, and everyone else was regular.
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And what was it like being in rural Alberta, being the only Jewish kids?
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It was absolutely, the only thing people said is, tell me what it means to be Jewish.
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I mean, I had to be on my best behavior because I was sort of the symbol for what it meant.
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And same with the black kids and the Chinese because we were, it was so wonderful growing up in Canada.
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My entire life, I never faced any anti-Semitism.
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Never for a second did I think there's nothing I can, I can't do.
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And the idea of being unsafe, it never even dawned on me until the last three months.
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And the hate marches, literally waving flags of the Taliban and Islamic Jihad and ISIS,
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and masked people in the streets saying, I'll kill you.
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Like, there was this, there was a shopping center in downtown Toronto that hundreds of Hamas supporters went into,
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They went in and there's this video of one guy saying, I'm going to put you six feet under.
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And he's dressed, full mask, Hamas, and the cop is right next to him.
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There's, I live in a pretty Jewish neighborhood.
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The Hamas protesters are targeting that Jewish neighborhood.
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There's just Jews, and there's a key bridge to get into the neighborhood.
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They taped off the streets so no one would try and go through.
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The other day, police brought hot coffee to the Hamas protesters on the bridge.
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But when every single authority seems to be cool with it, what do you do?
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Never in my life did I think they would be hunted.
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Every single day, there's more Kristallnacht-style hate crimes.
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387% rise in hate crimes against Jews since October 7th.
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I hate to say that because I don't want to appear weak, and I don't want to show that they're getting to me.
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But when you, Justin Trudeau has made a deliberate strategy to court the pro-Hamas vote.
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At the United Nations a few weeks ago, he broke with Canadian tradition, broke with the United States, and voted to condemn Israel and demand an immediate ceasefire.
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That was the first time Canada's ever flipped sides.
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Trudeau has announced that he's going to take at least 1,000 refugees from Gaza, but that there's no cap to that number.
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Even Arab countries will not take refugees from Gaza.
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75% of Gazans tell pollsters that they support Hamas.
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Are you going to ask the Hamas government if these people are terrorists or not?
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I am worried that Trudeau, partly for ideological reasons and partly because he believes they're his voter bloc, you've got immigration problems, but we do too.
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Well, I see, for the German police, what does this say?
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So this is the criminal code for the German police.
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But I thought it was relevant to you because of what I saw the RMC, the Royal Mounted Police, what they did to your reporter, and then what the local police did.
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What the local police did, said, get out of here.
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This was the law, this is the way it was, until the Gestapo really took power.
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My question to you is, how far away is Canada from this not meaning anything locally, and are we following in the same footsteps?
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A lot of good people were purged from institutions over the jab, from the military, from the police.
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I'm not talking about vax or anti-vax, just independent thinkers, critical thinkers, people who care about personal liberty, people who are not obedient and quick order followers.
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The kind of independent-minded, thoughtful people that you want as police.
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So, across Canada, I think it happened a lot in the U.S. also.
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So, you forced out a lot of your best people, and the people who remained were either weak and were in no position to fight back, or they loved it ideologically, or they're just compliant people.
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So, I think that a lot of institutions purged not only cultural memory of how to be free people, but the kind of people who in a pinch would say, no, that's wrong.
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Yeah, but only in medicine, military, and police.
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Well, and DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion, which are terrible code words.
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And that's, I can't understand what, take it out of the Jewish-Palestinian conflict for a second.
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And imagine if masked people, because they're wearing masks, but let's say they were wearing hoods instead of Hamas masks, blocked a road to a black neighborhood on the Sunday Sabbath when a black church was trying to meet, and were chanting about lynchings.
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And the police were bringing them coffee, and Justin Trudeau was saying, well, they're peaceful protesters.
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I am worried because the police, I believe, have been DEI colonized.
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And prosecutors, I don't know, have they been ordered to stand down, or do they believe that this is fine?
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And, of course, you go from the law school, and we see how bad the school's on.
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You become a young lawyer, then you become a senior lawyer, a prosecutor, then you become a judge.
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And I'm worried that the more I study about cultural Marxism and critical theory, the more I realize that these are like termites in our cultural foundation.
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I like what's going on with Bill Ackman and some of the battles over Harvard, because it's shining a light on it.
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And the reason that affects the Jews is that in this critical race theory approach, all Jews are the oppressors.
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So anything is legitimate against the oppressor Jew.
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I'm actually more worried about the West than I am worried about Israel.
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It's the only place and the only time they've ever had, they didn't have to ask permission to stand up for themselves.
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You know, I said to Bibi Netanyahu, I want, I really, and I mean this, I want Israeli citizenship for me and my family.
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And I said, because I know you guys know who you are, who the bad guys are, and you'll stand.
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I'd rather be with a group of people who are standing going, no, this is evil.
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Let me ask you, let me turn this here for a second.
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Not as an invited guest, as a very much uninvited guest.
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Well, I wanted to ask you about this, because you have been relentless on this.
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I've heard reporters say, I went, and it was just boring.
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I find that hard to believe with everything that's being said, if you're in the meetings.
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But you're not an invited guest, and you're bringing five reporters.
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Davos is a small ski village in the Swiss Alps.
00:35:29.820
Every single hotel room and Airbnb in the town is booked up.
00:35:33.900
So you have to stay a town away and take the train in every day.
00:35:44.420
So although we are not accredited to go into the formal conferences and the formal meetings,
00:35:56.060
And so if you're just on the street, you can catch the most amazing people walking by.
00:36:01.940
Now, you've got to be very quick to ID them and then to think, oh, like John Kerry, the U.S. Climate Envoy.
00:36:11.420
People don't roll with big entourages at Davos.
00:36:18.300
And so what are the odds that last year I was there and one of our cameramen said, hey, he looks familiar.
00:36:25.680
And I looked and it was Albert Bourla, the CEO of Pfizer, walking just with one assistant.
00:36:31.200
And I had some questions in my mind and my colleague, we jumped into it and we just peppered him with questions.
00:36:37.320
We only had three minutes and we had like 30 seconds notice.
00:36:50.440
But Avi Amini, my colleague, and I peppered him with questions.
00:36:53.200
Now, after the first couple of questions, Bourla said, have a nice day.
00:36:58.340
And I made the decision in the moment, well, I'm going to keep putting my questions.
00:37:05.040
And the fact that he refuses to answer becomes meaningful because my questions were real.
00:37:10.320
Like, why did you cover up the, why did you say that it was 100% efficacious when you knew it wasn't?
00:37:17.540
Why did, I just asked as many real questions, not just attack-ish questions.
00:37:27.160
And I think the message that came out of that is this guy's never done an unscripted, unfiltered, raw interview in his life.
00:37:36.600
Number two, he could have answered all of them.
00:37:39.540
I didn't have any secret ambush questions that he had.
00:37:42.300
He surely heard all of my questions before, but he just had complete disdain for citizen journalists.
00:37:53.420
By far the most viewed video we've ever made is Albert Bourla not answering questions for three minutes.
00:37:58.780
Because I think the whole world was riveted by the fact that this guy wouldn't or couldn't answer basic questions about something we were all forced to take.
00:38:09.880
We're not accredited at the World Economic Forum.
00:38:13.340
But if you're lucky, you'll encounter some of these VVIPs.
00:38:17.480
Greta Thunberg, the child actress, global warming activist.
00:38:29.440
And to her credit, she talked to us for 15 minutes.
00:38:33.460
She was actually, it was very disappointing how shallow she was.
00:38:45.520
Some of it is some of these folks will actually talk to you.
00:38:55.520
There are hundreds of accredited journalists, though.
00:39:05.280
So when you're there, the Wall Street Journal, Google, CNBC, CNN, they're all there.
00:39:13.160
But they've paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to have their kiosk, to have their studio.
00:39:22.120
So if you are part of the World Economic Forum, and if you spend hundreds of thousands of dollars for that privilege, are you going to ask a question that stinks up the joint?
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So ironically, there are hundreds of journalists there.
00:39:35.560
And I think that also puts these VVIPs at ease because they know everyone there is a friend.
00:39:41.740
And then there's a few of these grubby citizen journalists asking untoward questions.
00:39:53.620
I don't think Zelensky's going to wander around the street without an entourage.
00:39:57.160
So I don't think we'll have a chance to buttonhole him, but others will.
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And I mean this in, are they trying to rebuild?
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The trust that they thought they had with the people?
00:40:23.440
The World Economic Forum, you can't vote them out.
00:40:31.300
But it really is the world's most dense gathering of VVIPs.
00:40:36.900
And so everyone wants to be there for whatever reason.
00:40:45.320
You know, I bumped into the governor of Georgia.
00:40:47.820
Governor Kemp there on the street, if I'm remembering his name, right?
00:40:54.880
I said, how are you here at this woke George Soros?
00:41:05.240
What would you say to the America First side of your party?
00:41:15.140
He could have said, I'm here to get jobs for my state.
00:41:23.060
Like, how dare you grubby people ask me questions.
00:41:32.780
She waited outside a restaurant for Klaus Schwab for hours.
00:41:56.260
Does she need to pay you for you to pay any attention to her?
00:42:00.360
And so, this is people who have no democratic standing, yet they want to be rulers.
00:42:09.360
Klaus himself mused the other day that AI could do away with elections.
00:42:15.660
He said that what do we even need elections for when artificial intelligence can tell us the solution?
00:42:24.400
These are the folks who tell you that you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.
00:42:28.120
They have crazy philosopher madmen like Yuval Noah Harari.
00:42:51.600
And he's talking about feeding his cattle macadamia nuts.
00:42:57.460
But wait, I thought we weren't supposed to eat meat.
00:43:04.840
And that's what gets me about the world economic form.
00:43:10.180
But these people cook up policies that are then downloaded into governments without democratic consent.
00:43:18.920
I know for a fact that a lot of Canadian policy is hatched by.
00:43:27.200
And Christian Freeland, this deputy prime minister that had a.
00:43:34.460
It is the ultimate back room cigar smoking club.
00:43:40.480
I know the Schwab himself boasts about penetrating the cabinets.
00:43:48.600
And the fact that they realize that they've lost institutional trust.
00:43:59.280
They just came out with their five global risks.
00:44:06.340
They do the risk over the next two years, the next 10 years, 10 years.
00:44:53.480
I mean, they're very pissed at people like you, people like me that have brought ESG to light.
00:45:13.040
That was instrumental that we had to be a part of that.
00:45:17.480
And everything they're doing to Trump, you can see them arranging it.
00:45:23.240
I believe that they, I think that Elon Musk, I mean, as the good book says, don't put your
00:45:31.200
But by God, he's doing some valuable things for all of humanity.
00:45:38.780
I think Elon Musk is, have you read the, uh, the, uh, latest biography on him?
00:45:46.940
Um, and if you get into that, he's, he's, he does things because he wants to, he's not
00:45:59.460
He he's doing it because he wants to, and he has his own agenda.
00:46:02.700
However, he grew up with a nasty father, nasty father who berated him and told him he'd never
00:46:17.520
Now, when there's bullies on the block, he doesn't bend the knee, he doesn't bend the
00:46:22.440
And the harder you push him, the harder he'll fight.
00:46:29.760
But you know what, by unlocking Twitter, not only has he allowed all the citizen journalism
00:46:34.820
we've been talking about, and he wants to make it a commercial place as well.
00:46:38.900
And it's very exciting, but it's also revealed the depth of the control.
00:46:46.820
Here's a guy who's done more for global warming.
00:46:50.660
There's no one on earth that has done more than him.
00:46:57.520
It's, it's fascinating that misinformation, I think you're right that that will be their
00:47:06.280
And that will, and some of these names I've mentioned, like Jacinda Ardern, she was, she's
00:47:13.080
no longer the prime minister of New Zealand, but she still is a policymaker jetting around.
00:47:18.100
Her chief project right now is censorship online and, and Leo Varadkar of Ireland.
00:47:25.440
I don't know if you've seen some of the crazy stuff they're talking about.
00:47:28.220
They're merely possessing hate speech, which they include like a politically incorrect memes
00:47:38.920
And, and people say, oh, that's a conspiracy theory.
00:47:44.020
You know, it, I find that people, for all those people that said it was a conspiracy
00:47:51.260
And the funny thing is, if you support eating bugs, the misinformation censorship, if you
00:47:58.420
support all the things they're doing, it's not a conspiracy theory.
00:48:02.220
If you oppose it, well, then they call you a conspiracy theorist.
00:48:06.880
I, you know, we talk about the thing about being citizen journalists is you, is you follow
00:48:11.300
alternative contrarian leads a lot, non-conformist.
00:48:15.880
And the thing is, a lot of alternative non-conformist ideas are wrong.
00:48:25.280
You have to discern what's, I mean, but that doesn't mean everything is false.
00:48:30.760
Jeffrey Epstein was called a false rumor for the longest time, and we're learning more
00:48:36.080
But what I tell my team, because we've got a lot of young guys doing journalism, I say
00:48:41.820
follow the facts wherever they lead, as in don't be averse to throwing your theory out
00:48:48.700
But the world is crazy enough, we don't have to invent conspiracy theories.
00:48:53.640
There's enough craziness out there, just lying out there that people aren't reporting.
00:48:58.860
Just go and show with the camera who is there at Davos and why.
00:49:10.360
But I think the most important work we've ever done at Rebel News is in the field, just
00:49:17.180
I remember you interviewed me when I was in Marseille, France, during the race riots there.
00:49:21.520
And just talking to all these Algerian Muslim men, not women, because they weren't on the
00:49:26.580
streets, just if you don't go and see them and talk to them, you won't really get a
00:49:33.960
And I think that that's the beauty of citizen journalism, because it's distributed.
00:49:39.760
It's people with their cell phones everywhere in the world.
00:49:43.000
And I think in some way, misinformation, disinformation, we're in a golden age of journalism.
00:49:48.740
When you look at it, everyone can be a journalist.
00:49:51.020
You have more cameras recording things than ever before.
00:49:53.940
You have people from, you know, you want to talk about diversity.
00:49:59.420
Now, you've got to use your decision, you've got to use your intellect to determine what's
00:50:04.460
But in a way, we're in the golden age of journalism.
00:50:12.140
That's what shadow banning and de-boosting was all about.
00:50:16.800
That's the thing they hate most about Elon Musk.
00:50:19.400
They don't really hate that he's quirky or that he's a contrarian.
00:50:23.100
They hate that he has freed Twitter and exposed their censorship.
00:50:29.300
He has, in a way, brought the First Amendment to the whole world, including to places like
00:50:42.840
You know, you did interviews with, you know, naked people and they blurred your nipples.
00:51:13.540
I mean, for the longest time, everything was frozen in ice.
00:51:16.640
I mean, during the Cold War, everything was frozen.
00:51:19.320
The debates seemed like the spectrum of outcomes seemed smaller.
00:51:26.700
Now, I can't think of a more catastrophic difference between Biden and Trump, for example.
00:51:36.480
And I mean, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't think I'm like, I think I still do have
00:51:42.320
I also have the obligations of being, I guess, in my own way, a CEO.
00:51:46.340
I mean, we've got just over 40 people at the company.
00:51:49.220
So, a lot of what I do, I loved being just a commentator or just a journalist.
00:51:56.500
I didn't have to worry about the dollars and cents.
00:51:58.760
I didn't have to worry about censorship by YouTube.
00:52:02.040
I mean, we were the largest YouTube news channel in Canada after one year.
00:52:13.040
We were on track to make a million bucks in our second year just in YouTube ads.
00:52:19.880
And then YouTube turned it off because we were pro-Trump and I wouldn't doubt that the
00:52:31.640
You either have an oligarch like Jeff Bezos in the Washington Post or Carlos Slim in the
00:52:37.080
Sometimes, I mean, it's a good gig if you can get it, but you better be very obedient
00:52:41.520
and not step on his toes and he might get bored of his play thing.
00:52:49.760
You could work for a big corporate conglomerate, but then all you can do is vanilla because they're
00:52:55.400
Or, you can try and live off the support of your people through subscriptions or we do
00:53:02.960
That is a very hard way to make a living in Canada because we don't have a big base.
00:53:07.980
I think we do good work, but our market is one-tenth the size of America.
00:53:17.020
I think maybe that's one reason why I'm not quite as jokey, you know, in my ripe old age
00:53:22.940
as I was 15 years ago when I just had fun writing things.
00:53:30.540
And, you know, Orwell and others talked about it.
00:53:35.400
You know, Solzhenitsyn was sent to jail for making a joke about Stalin's mustache.
00:53:41.640
Khomeini said there's no jokes in Islam, the Ayatollah.
00:53:50.460
And at the end of the day, if you can laugh at power, if you can laugh at the tyrant,
00:53:55.560
if you can mock Justin Trudeau, not only will you feel better, but there's no defense to
00:54:08.820
And I just think that every tyrant in history hates being laughed at.
00:54:22.320
My book, The Libranos, I wrote a book about Justin Trudeau.
00:54:26.080
You know, the cover, The Libranos, it was sort of a takeoff of The Sopranos.
00:54:30.340
And we had sort of that movie poster look of Trudeau looking really mean.
00:54:41.800
I'm the only author in Canadian history who was prosecuted for a book.
00:54:46.020
There were 24 books published about Justin Trudeau in the 2019 election.
00:54:58.040
Elections Canada, which is our FEC, investigated me.
00:55:03.200
They had two 30-year Mounties interrogate me about my book for an hour.
00:55:11.060
And I went down there because I wanted to record them.
00:55:15.420
They said, why didn't you register this book with the government?
00:55:20.100
They said, but it's a campaign ad because it's so clearly critical of Trudeau.
00:55:27.420
It was a humorous, satirical comparison of Justin Trudeau and his cronies with The Sopranos.
00:55:34.240
And that tells me if I can stay humorous, if I can stay light, that will drive the other side mad.
00:55:41.040
But, boys, jokes are the first thing to go, aren't they?
00:55:47.360
They won't do the campus circuit anymore because the jokes are the first thing to go.
00:55:53.200
Every joke is a—you're dealing with a sensitive issue, and you're not allowed to do that.
00:56:07.980
Kurt Garan was a combination of Robin Williams and Tom Hanks.
00:56:17.440
He was the number one guy, trusted, always played a dad or a good guy, but was very, very funny.
00:56:31.740
And in the 1920s, he started making fun of the Nazis.
00:56:38.520
And he was extraordinarily popular and hid right in the spotlight.
00:56:44.900
And 1933 comes around, and they march in, and they say, all the Jews, you're all fired.
00:57:11.220
Hitler hated him so much because he made fun of him, hated him so much.
00:57:19.420
When they went into Paris, one of the first things that they were ordered to do was find him.
00:57:32.620
I can't remember the name of the town that they stopped in, but it was a town that had been cut in half.
00:57:43.780
He saved all of the intellectuals, all the famous Jews, the orchestra, the doctors, everything else.
00:57:55.240
You can go to Auschwitz now, or you'll make a film.
00:58:08.260
We're going to send every person in this town to Auschwitz, and then you.
00:58:13.040
And so he made the film, and it was called A Place for the Jews.
00:58:19.780
And it answered the question for most Germans, what happened to all these people?
00:58:29.520
It is the most terrifying film you've ever seen if you watch it because it's happy.
00:58:34.160
It shows Jews eating and making things and laughing and listening at concerts and all of it.
00:58:42.280
If you took and took the spoon and actually put something in your mouth, you had to spit it out or you were beaten.
00:58:54.460
Soon as he said, print, and they had the edit, they rounded up everybody and him and sent him away.
00:59:18.140
You know, I know Charlie Chaplin, of course, the dictator.
00:59:21.000
But at the end of the day, you need more than that because how did all those stories end?
00:59:27.180
The French actor was sent off anyways and Charlie Chaplin, I mean, that didn't stop Hitler.
00:59:45.140
I think that the world is, I don't know how it gets back on track.
00:59:50.100
I think it's a terrible combination, the leaders we have around the world, every one of them weaker than the next.
00:59:57.300
I see little twinkles of hope, but they seem minor.
01:00:00.180
Here at Wilders in Holland, won the Dutch elections there.
01:00:05.720
On a platform of pulling out of the madness of the European Union and stopping mass immigration.
01:00:11.840
And, you know, I interviewed him in the Netherlands.
01:00:21.360
That's the war on farmers that they have in Europe.
01:00:28.720
But imagine the madness, the hubris of these Larry Finks and others.
01:00:36.960
They're going to ban literally a chemical from the periodic table of the elements.
01:00:49.540
Everything has that C-H, you know, the madness of it.
01:00:58.180
And, you know, even conservatives talk about net zero.
01:01:11.440
Now I'm reading about how DEI Boeing is and other aircraft makers.
01:01:21.660
I was just having dinner with somebody that you would know of.
01:01:32.760
And I sat in his kitchen and we were having dinner.
01:02:02.680
I don't have as much intelligence about what's going on in America as you do.
01:02:07.280
Because I'm in Canada and I'm focused on Canada.
01:02:09.760
But America is the determiner of so many of these things.
01:02:13.460
And right now America, it seems to me as an outsider, is squandering so much money and military and moral authority.
01:02:24.760
Look, I watch these Houthis, these rebels in Yemen with their Mad Max style boats that have paralyzed 95% of shipping.
01:02:35.140
And you've got two of the mightiest aircraft carriers ever built there.
01:02:39.380
And they're being shot at every day by all these little drones.
01:02:44.760
And a $10,000 drone is being shot down by a million dollar American missile.
01:02:49.760
And the U.S. government won't just smash the Houthi bases.
01:02:57.120
And maybe it's not my place as a Canadian to have comments on American military posture.
01:03:01.900
But I'm thinking America in some ways has never been stronger.
01:03:08.300
And the world sees it from China to Iran to Russia to Europe.
01:03:15.060
And I think what happens to America is more important than everything else combined.
01:03:22.700
But actually, getting the right president in the United States will probably change my life more than getting the right prime minister in Canada.
01:03:34.940
I believe that Russia would not have invaded Ukraine had Trump been president.
01:03:39.320
And I believe that Hamas would not have done what it had done.
01:03:44.740
And if they did, I think, you know, maybe this is a fantasy.
01:03:48.240
But I think Trump would have picked up the phone to Qatar and said, you hand them over now.
01:03:52.760
And I'm not even going to tell you what the or else is.
01:04:01.620
And the debt and the – I just think so many – and shutting down America's energy industry, which was booming.
01:04:11.680
And I pray for America and I don't have the answer for America.
01:04:18.140
And whatever my thoughts are, they're the thoughts of a Canadian observer far away from the action here.
01:04:23.680
I mean, I love Ron DeSantis as a governor, but he doesn't seem to be catching fire for president.
01:04:29.760
I like Vivek, but I feel like he's more a debate society guy.
01:04:33.440
I don't know if he is, you know – it's interesting as a pundit to watch all these things.
01:04:39.180
I don't know what the answer is, but I know the answer has to come from America.
01:04:45.860
I think the biggest threat to America is who the heck is coming across that border by the thousand every day?
01:04:52.800
And we know it's not just economic migrants from Central America.
01:05:04.480
Now, maybe I'm dramatic by nature, but my God, I feel like that border will change everything, not just a military and terrorist risk,
01:05:13.320
but eventually those will be voters who perhaps do not share the American values.
01:05:18.180
And I believe in American people just like I believe in Canadians.
01:05:20.900
I mean, when I told you the story of growing up in Canada, in the rural part where I was the only Jew for miles,
01:05:25.900
I felt completely safe and at home and welcome and loved.
01:05:31.060
But if you import thousands of people from Gaza, as Trudeau says he's going to do, maybe those values will not be –
01:05:48.100
And by the way, telling the truth, telling the truth is the first step in a solution.
01:05:52.780
If you don't diagnose the problem, you'll never solve it.
01:05:56.720
I don't necessarily have solutions, but I do know that telling the other side of the story is part of the solution.
01:06:06.320
Ezra, I've been thinking this the whole time, trying to remember the last time I sat with somebody who I thought,
01:06:14.960
depending on who writes it, we'll end up in the history books as a true civil rights leader.
01:06:27.020
You are a remarkable man, and it's an honor to call you friend.
01:06:32.600
And you are a role model for us, and you were when we started.
01:06:35.860
We looked to what you were doing, your independent journalism.
01:06:38.800
And you also have a combination of telling the other side of the story, but also, every now and then, stopping to fix the world a little bit.
01:06:47.820
And I have to say, we look up to you, and in many ways, we've modeled what we do after you.
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