Ep 212 | What Do GOP Women REALLY Want? | Chicks on the Right | The Glenn Beck Podcast
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1 hour and 27 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of the Blaze Media podcast, host Glenn Beck is joined by a panel of conservative experts to discuss the question, "What do women want from the Republican Party?" They discuss everything from birth control, to the border crisis, to poor shorts.
Transcript
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All right, I want to start with reading you a headline from NBC News.
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It says, suburban women helped Biden win in 2020,
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and they may play an outsized role in key swing states again.
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Yes, the sleeper cell that could sway the 2024 election is the mom next door.
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And the truth is the GOP is struggling with her.
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So I brought a couple of experts in who I just, I love,
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to give the GOP the answer maybe to the age-old question,
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They say the conservative movement needs a makeover, and it does,
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unless we want another four years of Joe Biden.
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I have so much to talk to them, and they will talk about anything from birth control
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I think I have to start, because if people don't know you,
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I mean, I think I have to start with the whore shorts.
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I mean, you guys are, I mean, I've seen the photos.
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It's an interesting story, because we just thought we were taking best friend photos
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that we were going to have as our PR photos for our website.
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And the hullabaloo that came out of those photos, because it was July when we took them, and
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I mean, I don't wear shorts in the summertime, because I'm not a whore like you.
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I don't know anybody but prostitutes that do wear shorts.
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We've had some people over the years, unfortunately, on our side of the aisle, who were like, that's
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It's so crazy that, I find this with religion sometimes, how people will just separate themselves
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from each other, because, you know, well, you're not Christian enough, or you're not
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And then, you know, conservatives, and it's so strange, because if you're more of a libertarian
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conservative, the whole idea is, be who you are.
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And there's libertarians who are like, he's not a libertarian.
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You don't fit in this compartmentalized little box that I've created for you.
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Because we feel like if you feel like you're conservative, and you have these conservative
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And that's why I think we've, you know, we've just gathered like this, this group of
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And that's, that's what we're most proud of, is building community.
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That's what we've done, I think, really well after, this week is our 15-year anniversary.
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After the wars, there were the cockroaches and the chicks on the right.
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And this was the best way to spend a 15th anniversary.
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That's not easy to put people together or have people come together and stay.
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So we were, we became best friends and started a website together back in 2008.
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And it wasn't until our website received an explosion of publicity because Facebook, we
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were the first, we were the OGs of getting canceled on Facebook because of our headline.
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Amazingly, this wasn't about the shorts, but I had written an inflammatory headline about
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So at the time I said something like, Jay Carney can kiss my assular area, I think is how I put
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And the, the trolls came out on mass, reported the post and Facebook threatened to shut us
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And so it made news and it even got talked about on the view.
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Oh, this site chicks on the right is getting shut down by Facebook.
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Whoopi used, I remember she, nowadays she would never, you know, say, oh, their name is really
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But like back then, remember she said, that's a cool name.
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And by the time the radio thing happened, that's why.
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So it'd be, we got heard about our, you know, our, our popularity exploded at that
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And so people started hearing about us, including the local Indianapolis program director for
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And so he reached out and said, have you ever done radio?
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And we had appeared as guests on, on a bunch of shows and we were like, yeah, we'll
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He said, no, I was thinking more like you would have a show.
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And then we auditioned with a lot of other big wigs and somehow managed to score afternoon
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When they offered us afternoon drive, we went into this.
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And we went into this conference room with a bunch of these big wigs at WIBC.
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Cause we, I remember that day, like it was yesterday.
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Cause we both were in the corporate world and doing this, this chicks on the right thing
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And it's, when that happened, we thought, oh my gosh, I can't believe this word.
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I mean, we were so grateful for the opportunity and we did that for eight years, about eight
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And then I moved here to Texas and then our podcast, we were doing that simultaneously
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I think our, our connection, the fact that we were best friends, that was very divine.
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I was a corporate recruiter and I was looking for a writer.
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And then in 2008, when people were starting to get really, really comfortable with Facebook
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Um, and you, it, back in the day, you could see if you had a friend that became friends
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And I saw that one of the groomsmen in our wedding who was from Atlanta, like my husband
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And I remembered her name because she hyphenated it on Facebook and it's an unusual last name.
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I mean, this is why I have a good sense of humor.
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Like, I know I interviewed her here in Indianapolis and he said, well, I grew up with her and so
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And so then I immediately had to contact her and say, I know you don't remember.
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Because you know how you know when you're just going to connect with someone?
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No, but you're not saying, I know we're supposed to be together.
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You know, she was wanting me to come in to meet her to talk about this job that she had.
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And so I was like, I really don't need to do this, but I'll meet her anyway because it's the
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right thing to do, you know, because this background that we have.
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And we didn't think we'd like each other at all over the phone.
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But somebody said, you two have to get together.
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By the time we hit the airport exit, we were best friends.
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And then since we've just been kind of inseparable ever since.
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And we had never been political at that point, really ever.
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I mean, we voted and that was about the extent of our interest.
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I went in kind of like with Fox when I went to Fox.
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That's what I was doing on talk radio until September 11th.
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Obviously, we've been called that a lot since 2008.
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But that was just a very strange phenomenon for us.
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And so we talked about that a lot over chips and salsa.
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We would go to the Mexican restaurant at lunch because we worked together.
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And we like culturally appropriating, obviously.
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So we would go to lunch every day and we'd be talking about it.
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Because the way that we talk about this is in a way that a lot of people aren't talking
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And, you know, just two chicks talking about politics.
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And so we came up with the idea of Chicks on the Right.
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And we did blog in a way that was very conversational.
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And it kind of gained a cult following at the beginning.
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Weirdly enough, it was just like our parents at first reading it.
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And then it kind of snowballed a little from there.
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And then we got the, you know, the whole deal where we were shut down.
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I mean, for lack of a better phrase, it is divine.
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I feel like a lot, we were supposed to be doing this.
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Because there have been times along the way in the past 15 years where, at least, I won't speak for you, but I've tried to walk away from it.
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Because I've been thinking, well, maybe, you know, we're getting a little too old for this.
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We've never reached the level where we're like superstardom.
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You know, we've always had just a nice steady level of success.
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Between the two of us, we've been in corporate America.
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So, I mean, I've always thought, well, maybe the right thing to do is to work in corporate America.
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And so I've tried to step away, you know, a time or two.
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So before Chicks on the Right, I had a blog that was.
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I set it up with a few friends back in the day and then took it over completely.
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And it was all about just wanting to poke fun at strange people, celebrities, even some politics here and there.
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And so I knew it was going to be a blog dedicated.
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And I wanted to write about things in a mocking way.
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And I'd asked my husband at the time, I need a name because I knew that the site name was going to be the mock doc, like because it just worked.
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And I said, but I need a name to go with that because I don't want to use my real name because there's crazies out there.
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And it just sort of transferred over when we started Chicks on the Right.
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And interestingly, when we were in radio and we switched from afternoons to mornings, there was a time when we thought we should go by our real names.
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We should actually try to establish our real names now that everybody knows who we are anyway.
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I got to lie and come up with something better.
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And she's not in the situation that your son is in.
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Why don't you explain for anybody who doesn't know you guys, your situation with your son?
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I had no idea that I was even ill, but I had preeclampsia.
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And I was sent to a teaching hospital where there were no staff physicians monitoring the monitor that I was hooked up to.
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So it took about eight hours before they realized, oh, his heartbeat is decelerating with every contraction.
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And so by the time they did get him out, he was blue.
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And so he suffered, obviously, a lack of oxygen to the brain, which, you know, is the cause of that.
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And then on top of cerebral palsy, he had periventricular leukomalacia, which is a mouthful, but it is a damage to the white matter of the brain.
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So that actually, I think, is what caused most of his disabilities.
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Because cerebral palsy, as you know, is, you know.
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I mean, you just really have no idea how involved someone will be.
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And so he's been, I mean, he's, you know, been completely dependent on others for every aspect of his care since he was anybody.
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When my daughter was born, they said, if this happened to an adult, you'd never walk, talk, feed themselves, et cetera, et cetera.
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But it is probably the hardest thing I've ever had to do.
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I mean, she's at the point where she, you know, she's, you wouldn't notice, you would just notice some things were off, but you wouldn't know exactly what it was.
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And she is the brightest, sweetest, kindest person.
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And I always feel, I don't know, I've always felt like I'm going to answer for just not having the patience or dedicating my everything to.
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And now you get heat because you can't physically handle him.
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Yeah, I mean, because we moved him into like a, I don't want to say assisted living, but I guess that's kind of what it is.
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It's just a regular house that he shares with a roommate now, which has 24 hour care.
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And I'm getting heat or I have gotten heat recently because I made that sort of public that we're moving from Indianapolis to South Carolina.
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He's going to be staying in Indiana in his house because they have remarkable care there.
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And, and, and it was a really difficult decision to move him because, you know, we'd cared for him for 23 years and all of a sudden to realize our bodies are breaking and we're not going to be able, we're not going to be able to do this any longer.
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And we're not giving our younger son the kind of life that he needs to have.
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We could never go anywhere as a family, for example, because of the wheelchair van only fitting a certain number of people.
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I mean, there was always, there were always other factors to take into account, but yeah, I've gotten some recent heat about that.
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And interestingly, I just, I wanted you to know that, that I started listening to you during the Terry Schiavo story.
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And I, I, it meant so much to me that your take on it, because the pictures of her and the videos of her responding to her parents reminded me so much of my son.
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It was, it, that's why her story connected with me so much and why I started following you.
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I tell you, it is, that was the, you know, I, I, uh, I was on the other side at first because I didn't really think it through.
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I thought, well, I wouldn't want to be that way.
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Um, and then I got to know the family, um, and I believe she was absolutely there, you know, just not, just not in the way she was, but she was absolutely there.
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And any society that devalues life is in trouble.
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Yeah, because, I mean, what, Thomas, they told you that Thomas wasn't supposed to live past a certain age.
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And I, you know, and being her best friend for, what, 16 years, I look at all the things that she's been through with him.
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But then when you add, oh, he's got to have surgery this week.
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It's like a lot of physical stuff that happens.
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And, um, I mean, personality wise, he can't speak.
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He can't tell you what's wrong with him, but he's just like her.
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But he's, but he is just like in, in the respect that he's so positive.
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And, and so that's a testament to the human spirit.
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That kid, I get emotional when I talk about that.
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Cause I've seen what she's gone through, you know, and it's just, that kid's remarkable.
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And people who judge that, I want to punch them in the face.
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You just can't, unless you've lived that experience, it's just not okay to judge it.
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You know, and you know, it's just, it's like with everything, we all have different tolerance
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levels, you know, and it's so, some people it's just so easy and, and others besides being
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I, I, my daughter has tough time communicating times and I, I always, I always walk away
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just thinking, you know, a better man could do this.
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A better man could break through and understand and, and, you know, it just plays games with
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Um, so, um, let's talk a little bit about the state of the world first.
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You know, we just did a deep dive about my rage that I had, um, earlier this week, as
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a matter of fact, cause we were having an unseasonably nice day in Indianapolis and I took a walk through
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our neighborhood and I have been, you can ask her, anybody can vouch.
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I have been the happy, optimistic person since I was itty bitty.
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And, and I'm genuinely a happy person, but this last few years has made me so angry in
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I feel like we do, um, to our audience to be happy warriors because that's how we've
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always been, but it has become harder, um, over these last few years.
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And earlier this week, when I took my walk, I realized that I saw strangers in the neighborhood
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that were Hispanic, that got out of their car suddenly with big bags and were looking
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And ultimately I think that they were putting flyers in everybody's mailbox to sell whatever
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service they might've been selling, but the rage, I felt that I was afraid where I would
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have never been afraid of that three years ago, four years ago.
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Because of the border, because of how, because of all the crime, because of how people have
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There's just this lack of humanity and love for one another.
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And I am fearful, which I've never been before in ways that I've never been before.
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And so I had to vent to her and I was like, I'm, I'm so mad at Joe Biden for making me
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Cause I think she started out more as the, everything is great.
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When we started the site, she was very much of the, she saw everything with rose colored
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Where, you know, one is up, the other one is down.
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I mean, I think she's right that we do have a responsibility to our audience.
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So we try to keep it upbeat and it, and you know, we're best friends.
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It's like when you have a friend or when you have a marriage or whatever, it's, you don't
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So that's, I think doing it together, doing what we do together, as opposed to doing it as a
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solo operation makes it like we're having a party every day.
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You know, we're having, we're having a girl's day out every day.
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I mean, we, even though we're having to talk about really serious things and we do it, we
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touch on the serious things, but we always end our show.
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We'll do like an hour, hour and a half show, sometimes two hours, depending on what kind
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But we'll always end the show with funny TikToks or funny stories or, you know.
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We'll do just, we'll try to find positive, good things in every single day because, you
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know, we're in a cycle of suck right now where things are just not, they're just not that
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I mean, I live in Texas and I, we are, we're on the border.
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And so I, we, I understand that things are not the greatest.
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We do it with our audience and, and that is our responsibility.
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And it's not to say that, you know, even when I have these, these flashes of rage, that
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what we do on our show isn't genuine because it absolutely is.
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And we do genuinely have a great time, but I've found the longer that you're in sort of
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this world where you are consuming the news and the news cycle constantly and you never
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get a break because it's, you have to know what's going on.
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I, I have to have like meltdowns a couple of times a year where I have to like on a
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weekend, just watch, you know, steel magnolias or like beaches or something and just let it
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And I don't want to be, I don't want to be someone who's filled with rage.
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And so I know the way, you know, I know how to self care enough that like, I know I need
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a good cry sometimes and then I'll be fine and then I'll get right back to it.
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But yeah, I've noticed that the rage comes more often under this administration than
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We were having a problem with my, one of my teenagers and we just didn't know what to
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So we went to a psychologist or psychiatrist and said, all right, we're losing our minds.
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It's going to be interesting to see how you work that out.
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They're old enough to work it out now and they dump all these things on you and you as
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I'm interested to see how you're going to work that out.
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And so I've been saying that about the news now lately.
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It's going to be interesting to see how that works out.
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So you guys are about as big of fans as of the Republican Party, I think, as I am.
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I think we say it in a probably a more vulgar way.
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And it gets very frustrating because for 15 years, we feel like we've been saying a lot
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of the things where they just, their PR is terrible.
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They can't get, and it seems like it's such an obvious fix.
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I mean, it is time for that generation to let go.
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But they also, I mean, I think they, I think the party is stronger on constitutional things
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than it has been in the 25 years I've been watching.
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But they're still, they're still not in charge.
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But I mean, Obama said at some point you've made enough money, right?
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But one of the problems you guys have, I think, is, and rightfully so,
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And yet, you know, we're also disillusioned by a lot of the suburban moms
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I mean, there's so much of this white guilt that so many liberal suburban moms
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are bogged down with that we cannot relate to at all.
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The ones that put, like, the things around their faces during COVID
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I mean, it's like a virtue signal, and they feel guilty about things.
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And we just, yeah, we don't identify with that at all.
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And I feel like those people represent more people that just haven't found us,
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We feel like there are more women like us that have common sense.
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If we were just grateful for a few things, it would be nice.
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My daughter is, I have a stepdaughter, and a daughter is 14.
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Be grateful that you're American, that you live in this country.
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You could be living in a crap hole country somewhere and not have, she's a swimmer.
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And I always say, there are countries where you're not even allowed to swim.
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You can't, think of the, just the freedom you have as a woman to be a woman.
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People apparently have trouble defining it now.
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So I don't even know if that exists anymore, the way that we used to know a women's movement
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And then there are men trampling in our spaces.
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I mean, I think it's the most anti-woman thing I've seen in my lifetime.
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I mean, it's like all of that work to define a woman as strong and independent and, you know,
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the individual and all of it now, and women being shamed if they don't say, he's a beautiful
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And so we always ask that question and there's crickets.
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Well, where are the feminists on, you know, I love these people who are the LGBTQ community
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that is protesting and marching for Hamas or Palestine, and you're like, they'll kill you.
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You know, because when you get over there, you might realize, eh, they don't feel the same
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We were just, we were talking about, was it a Reddit thread that we saw?
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Um, the, the trans ideology has become so ridiculous and so offended by everything and
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so demanding of others to not just accept, but embrace and adore them.
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Um, and they get so hurt if you don't, you know, use the pronouns or do whatever.
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There was a thread on, I think it was Reddit where someone had written in on behalf of their
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friend who was a trans woman who had just sent away for a 23 and me test.
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And the 23 and me test came back showing that he was a man and they asked, is there any way
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that they can be more accommodating to trans people?
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I mean, like, what do you want to, I don't, how do you accommodate this?
00:34:10.760
There's this big move to, um, leave modernity, that modernity is the problem.
00:34:21.260
That's, you know, proving things through facts.
00:34:30.320
Well, facts can hurt, you know, when, you know, when I was an alcoholic and people said,
00:34:44.400
So if a man dresses up as a woman and does all the things and he tries to identify as
00:34:50.100
a woman and you say, but you're still a man, that's hurtful.
00:34:55.920
Dude, you can wear a dress if you want, but I don't, if I, my, my, my line here is, if
00:35:05.000
I take you to the hospital, do I say that you're a woman or a man?
00:35:12.840
You know, if you're bleeding out and you got some problem going on, the first thing I'm
00:35:21.780
You know, so why should I be forced to lie the rest of the time?
00:35:26.560
Or if they dig your bones up a hundred years from now, what are they going to say you are?
00:35:51.920
We're just good when humans are good, usually in the middle.
00:35:54.900
We're overcorrecting, I think, with the trad movement, the trad wives.
00:36:07.120
That's interesting because they, you know, did it start on TikTok?
00:36:15.340
But, I mean, isn't it just sort of an influencer?
00:36:23.560
And so people have run out of ways to influence.
00:36:29.180
It's like instead of just like experiencing a balance, like if you just want to, if you want to be a stay-at-home mom, that's fantastic.
00:36:38.400
You know, I think people should be encouraged to do whatever they want to do.
00:36:41.240
So as a woman, if you want to be a stay-at-home mom, be a stay-at-home mom, if you want to be a traditional, like, wife and mother, do that.
00:36:46.420
But now they're like, everybody should be a trad wife.
00:36:50.460
Like there's also, we've talked about this in podcasts where, you know, they've, people have gone the route of nobody, like women shouldn't work outside of the home.
00:37:03.720
And I don't, I'm not sure where that comes from.
00:37:05.940
I'm not sure in the conservative movement why that would be, why that would be appealing for people.
00:37:12.500
I think we should be encouraging women to do what they want to do.
00:37:17.360
If they want to stay home, it should be stay-at-home.
00:37:23.040
Well, isn't this, I mean, it's the, the conservatives are doing what the old liberals used to do.
00:37:31.160
And that would shame you for going to, or not going to work, for staying at home.
00:37:40.760
That's, yeah, that's a pretty big job that I don't want.
00:37:46.360
So they were shaming and saying, you have to go to work or you're not a woman.
00:37:51.380
Well, can't we just live our lives and let everybody choose?
00:37:56.800
It's like, it was that, it was like shaming them.
00:37:58.720
And then we went all the way over to the other side where it was like, people were working
00:38:02.120
at home, people were working outside the home, the women were working outside the home.
00:38:06.080
And then we, it's like, there needs to be a balance, you know, we went through the same
00:38:12.620
We're going through the birth control thing now.
00:38:15.680
We're a lot of these young influencer, young women influencers, conservatives are saying,
00:38:24.260
So, I mean, we're a little bit older, just a little bit, just a tiny bit older.
00:38:29.060
So we've lived through a couple more years of, okay, we've seen birth control, maybe from
00:38:34.800
a different perspective where some people were helped by it.
00:38:40.580
But I think that we can find a happy medium where it, you know, just decide on your own.
00:38:45.220
Do I want to take it or do I not want to take it?
00:38:48.620
It may not work for other people, but that should be an individual.
00:38:58.680
And I'm not one for sterilization, but give me a couple more years and I might be.
00:39:05.380
But, you know, there are some people that they would have birth control because they know.
00:39:10.920
I don't, if you don't want to be a mom or a dad, you shouldn't be one.
00:39:14.620
We know people, we know women who are like that, who have chosen, you know, they're, and
00:39:19.300
There are lovely, there are a lot of like lovely women that we know.
00:39:22.820
We're like, gosh, she would have made the most wonderful mother, but they have chosen
00:39:27.500
For whatever reason, they just don't want to be mothers and that's okay.
00:39:33.400
I think what sets, the reason that we ended up doing a deep dive on the contraception issue
00:39:39.840
I can't even believe, I mean, I honestly cannot believe we're having this conversation.
00:39:43.780
Because I've heard this trope from the left for so long.
00:40:00.900
That's the thing is that those same young influencers who, by the way, don't even have
00:40:05.240
kids yet or aren't married yet, are injecting their faces with all kinds of chemicals while
00:40:10.160
they rail against the bad things that are in birth control.
00:40:18.120
So it's just, that's what led us, I think, ultimately to do that conversation about it
00:40:22.780
because we're just like, we're seeing the hypocrisy and it's this judgmental tone that
00:40:27.040
some of these young influencers are taking that we're like, how about you just let women
00:40:34.720
It would be great if conservatives could sort of take a step back and realize that we
00:41:11.780
They live like, I would never, ever want to churn my own butter.
00:41:21.560
Well, especially when you can go to Family Dollar and buy it.
00:41:26.280
But they live this really old style life by choice.
00:41:33.060
And they're not saying you should live that way.
00:41:41.440
I don't believe that the children, all eight children are like happily churning butter,
00:41:47.820
But there is, in really thinking about this family, there is something about all of this,
00:42:02.460
you know, our phones and everything else that you like.
00:42:21.340
I like going out and being outside and having the simplicity of nature.
00:42:27.480
And there are days where I'm like, I hate my phone.
00:42:34.360
At this point, like the toothpaste is out of the tube.
00:42:41.940
Because I've been paranoid about EMPs and like power grid stuff for decades.
00:42:48.900
And now it seems more likely than ever that it's just a ticking time bomb.
00:42:53.420
You know, I tell you, with AI, you both are religious.
00:42:58.520
With AI, I've thought, because I've been on AI since the 90s and watching it and trying
00:43:08.420
to figure out how society is going to deal with this and how will it deal with society.
00:43:22.280
But I thought, you know, in the old biblical story of the Tower of Babel, there's in the
00:43:31.260
Hebrew oral tradition, there's several faces of God.
00:43:37.240
The one that comes down to destroy the Tower of Babel is the loving God.
00:43:42.220
He comes down and sees his people trapped in slavery.
00:43:49.540
Because they're building this tower that will make them like gods, he confuses their language
00:44:03.940
It would confuse our language so we couldn't communicate with each other.
00:44:09.480
When we've gotten so used to communicating with each other, what do we do?
00:44:11.780
And it would force us to go back and do real relationships and real communication.
00:44:25.740
She always jokes that I would last 45 minutes without power.
00:44:31.420
Oh, I think I'd be praying for death, you know, within the week.
00:44:38.800
And then people would get back to actually connecting on it.
00:44:41.260
Because, I mean, I think about, again, we're Gen Xers.
00:44:44.260
And so I remember the days where you would actually connect with people and you'd talk to them
00:44:49.440
And I try to encourage that with my 14-year-old daughter.
00:44:51.820
I'm like, get on the phone and talk to your friends.
00:44:55.680
Talk to them for two hours like I used to talk to my best friends.
00:44:59.640
Have that intimacy with people because that is so missing in this generation.
00:45:12.840
It's like when we started our site, we never realized we would get the amount of hate that
00:45:20.500
I mean, it's like there's the amount of hate that you get from people who don't know you
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Does it drive you crazy that you'll hear once in a while from a lefty, I published this article.
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That's when you respond with the meme of Taylor Lorenz crying.
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It hurt to be called a racist at the beginning.
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Well, what's worse is it means the opposite to some people.
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It means because you're white, you're unforgivable.
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But you're unforgivable because of what white people have done.
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And it's like they overuse racists so much that they had to move on to white supremacists.
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Do you ever, I mean, because you are mean machines, do you ever come across things and you're
00:49:28.980
There are times I will, like, because I handle our Instagram as she handles our Twitter, and
00:49:35.800
sometimes I will see something and then I'll run it by her, and I'll be like, mom, what
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For some reason, she thinks I'm going to have a better filter.
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And so we usually, sometimes we'll just run things by each other.
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And I don't know, are we even good filters for each other?
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I was going to say, we run stuff by each other, too, and we end up doing it.
00:50:03.900
But there are glimmers of hope about that, right?
00:50:06.480
When you see the success of Chappelle, or the fact that Shane Gillis was just on SNL doing
00:50:22.340
And the one thing authoritarians do not like is comedy.
00:50:28.480
You know, which, why Barack Obama was always just portrayed as this nice guy.
00:50:34.580
You know, he's like, he's never the butt of a joke.
00:50:40.840
But you can't do it against Biden because it's racist, too.
00:50:43.620
But for that to happen, and for him to use words that have been long banned...
00:51:02.540
When we first started radio, I mean, it was early, early, early on, and we were making
00:51:09.960
There was a Grammy or award show or whatever, and we had made fun of Miley Cyrus, and I was
00:51:17.220
And oh my gosh, the blow up that happened over that was extraordinary.
00:51:26.700
And so I felt like I had some moral authority on that topic.
00:51:31.140
So when we started getting the emails, and you know, I never meant anything against people
00:51:40.020
You know, it's like when people say, oh, that's so gay.
00:51:44.340
It is exactly like the N-word is to the African-American community.
00:51:53.720
And so I was stunned at the instant rebuke that I got from so many people.
00:51:59.920
And you know, we had just started, and I got all worried.
00:52:03.400
But we, you know, we ended up writing an entire chapter about that in our book in 2014,
00:52:09.220
I've got some things to say about this, and all of this manipulation of language, and this,
00:52:13.300
you know, people not understanding the spirit of intention behind words, and instantly just
00:52:26.500
And it's like, it used to not be that way when we were growing up, and when we were in
00:52:30.160
our 20s and 30s, and then they all of a sudden are like, oh, the rules have changed, just
00:52:36.520
I love the fact that, like, the language changed overnight for a period.
00:52:41.180
It seemed like every day there was a new word, and everybody on TV knew the word, but I had
00:52:51.800
And that's why we finished out that chapter, and there was, like, a line in it.
00:52:56.260
I'm paraphrasing my own self at this point, because I don't remember exactly how we wrote
00:53:00.260
But we said something like, my son, and I refer to my son, my son has mental retardation.
00:53:07.160
Miley Cyrus is retarded, and there is a difference.
00:53:10.040
And we were referring to that moment where she brought twerking to the mainstream.
00:53:16.640
I don't think there was a higher cultural moment than that.
00:53:21.820
I can see why the rest of the world looks at us and says, wow.
00:53:27.000
Shane Gillis is getting all the heat for using that word in his monologue.
00:53:33.000
You know, I just really felt, like you said, like that was a watershed moment.
00:53:35.840
And maybe people are starting to come around and not be so insane.
00:53:40.960
Well, I remember when political correctness back in the late 80s, early 90s started, and
00:53:56.820
If it's handicapable in one generation, it will mean the same thing as handicap.
00:54:05.680
I don't remember what they were, but there were a few things that I'm like, okay, well,
00:54:30.480
And, you know, as a mom of a kid with special needs, I think that's another way of saying,
00:54:35.360
you know, at some point, I just want to just be able to say things and not have to worry,
00:54:45.760
And she was like, all of this manipulation is retarded.
00:54:58.080
The opinions of the guest are not necessarily...
00:55:13.860
They look at me all the time because I'll say, that is so retarded.
00:55:27.660
And my daughter's, you know, for all intents and purposes, she's pretty conservative.
00:55:31.200
I would say she's a conservative kid, but there are things you can't say now.
00:55:50.400
And he would say, and I'd go, Grandpa, you can't say that anymore.
00:56:00.340
And I'm like, gosh, am I just not recognizing it now?
00:56:08.980
But once you get to a certain age, because I feel like, well, I think you get a pass.
00:56:21.160
Once you get to like a certain age, you're like, you know what?
00:56:33.480
If they get to decide on language, we get to decide on that, you guys.
00:56:37.100
It's, it's, it's well before the age of our president.
00:57:16.240
Um, well, I, I, I am hoping that, um, that Trump is going to pull it out.
00:57:23.240
Is that, is that, you guys are not, one of you is Trump.
00:57:36.280
She had more of a horse and I, I just, I just want to win.
00:57:40.840
And my horse, my horse wore high heels and smiled weird.
00:57:46.980
He's still doing his thing in Florida, but that was my horse.
00:57:50.000
You shouldn't probably say high heels because that leads to a completely different picture
00:58:03.440
Like we would rally more and get together and, and we weren't so segmented and fragmented.
00:58:08.220
And I want to, I know that makes us, we're individuals.
00:58:13.900
But at the end of the day to win, we got to like, I'm a team player.
00:58:19.340
When, when it comes to like team sports, we got to, okay, that's fine.
00:58:22.440
You can all be individual and do your individual, but now we got to win.
00:58:31.500
I just worry that there's a lot of people that aren't going to rally.
00:58:33.660
I feel like there's going to be a lot of people that won't rally.
00:58:44.840
I know in your 60 years, you probably never noticed that.
00:58:49.960
Being surrounded by women in my life and my children, my girls.
00:58:55.660
So for all the estrogen, it's so frustrating because.
00:58:58.840
I think a lot of women feel like they want to date these candidates.
00:59:11.520
You know, I don't want to date DeSantis, even though I know you thought he was Ron DeSantis.
00:59:34.760
And so I think we have some people, a person for the job that can do the job better than the person that we have now.
00:59:42.800
And I just wish women would get on board with that and not nitpick a lot of the personality things that don't need to be nitpicked so much.
00:59:52.140
I have to tell you, when he's not president, I think Donald Trump is hysterical.
00:59:59.160
When he is president, I'd like some of the comedy to stop.
01:00:05.600
You know, what the greatest thing is, is I've always felt that a president with a twitchy eye will stop all wars.
01:00:19.100
And he did it like North Korea and everybody else.
01:00:23.040
Because when your enemy goes, I think that guy will do it.
01:00:32.520
But sometimes as the American people, you're like, I think that guy might do it.
01:00:39.960
And when Putin says he wants Biden in office rather than Trump, I mean, I feel like that's a sign that, you know, you want him in office.
01:00:57.120
The liberals will say that, oh, you know, they're BFFs.
01:01:00.480
Well, they also said that he destroyed the peace of the world and, you know, our reputation.
01:01:09.560
You might have a different definition of destroyed.
01:01:15.020
They're also going to tell you that eggs aren't expensive now.
01:01:22.680
And Bill Maher just does not shop for his own food, apparently.
01:01:25.160
How do you feel about the guy from Kellogg's coming out the other day saying, you know,
01:01:30.020
I know it's tight for a lot of families, but they should consider eating cereal for dinner.
01:01:41.080
And don't you feel like there's times, and I've kind of said it less lately because I don't
01:01:48.320
feel we are this anymore, but I used to be like, we're American.
01:02:01.940
And now it seems like, you know, we're getting to the point where it's like, can somebody just
01:02:08.480
Like, you eat cereals for dinner, like, when dad goes out of town.
01:02:15.300
Cereal for dinner is when mom goes out of town.
01:02:20.160
That's like extenuating circumstance, you know?
01:02:23.160
And for him to go, you should just eat that for dinner.
01:02:25.240
It's like, oh my gosh, what are we turning into?
01:02:29.280
It's like everything is preparing us to have a lower standard.
01:02:34.720
And to lower our standards and be prepared to severely diminish our quality of life.
01:02:40.620
I mean, everything is leading us to be prepared for that.
01:02:44.720
I remember in 2006, I think, I noticed something.
01:02:52.040
I don't remember what the story was, but I noticed a change in the language of some of
01:02:58.500
And, you know, it had always been, we're going to bring the rest of the world up to American
01:03:05.520
And then they said, can't be done, but we have to all be in it together.
01:03:11.940
And I thought, the only way to do that then is to bring us down to the rest of the world.
01:03:29.420
And then we're no longer the beacon on the hill.
01:03:35.960
Because, you know, her parents, Polish immigrants, came over here.
01:03:51.100
And then I can only imagine how they feel about the state of our union.
01:03:59.740
Or any legal immigrant that came here and did it the right way and everything that's
01:04:03.920
going on right now with the border and just the state of our country.
01:04:07.120
I think it is so, I don't know why they are making up things to be offended by when
01:04:17.200
there are things that actually should be offensive.
01:04:22.100
Like Hispanics, oh no, Hispanics all want the border open.
01:04:37.620
And to say, you know, well, the black community, it can never pull itself up.
01:04:48.600
And the statements that the left makes about people and about we have to protect, no.
01:05:03.620
We would have never crossed the Missouri or Mississippi River with this.
01:05:11.900
And legal immigrants, I think, too, and the children of them have a much higher love
01:05:24.940
I mean, it's remarkable how much more patriotism legal immigrants have.
01:05:29.940
Who was it that we just talked about becoming a U.S.?
01:05:38.260
And that's the spirit when you see those naturalization ceremonies that are always so moving,
01:05:42.700
because those people really cared about becoming American, not just getting into the country.
01:05:50.480
You have to say, to be an American citizen, you have to say, I disavow.
01:05:55.880
I mean, I have a friend who's Scottish, and if you know a Scot, they're Scottish.
01:06:06.400
It's, I mean, Scotland built America, according to him.
01:06:15.460
But he wrestles with, I have to leave that part.
01:06:25.480
And it took him a while before he saw, no, to be an American doesn't mean government, doesn't mean it.
01:06:41.580
They remind me of born-again Christians, because they're the most excited about their faith.
01:06:46.180
Or somebody who, like, converts to a religion later in life.
01:06:50.240
Because they're the most excited about their faith.
01:07:11.580
I think what's happening with the men and women is completely, I mean, I was going to
01:07:17.260
say natural, but that's not scientific anymore.
01:07:23.600
Guys are built to be just through, you know, our biology.
01:07:35.400
We're geared to be the one that's looking over the horizon.
01:07:41.720
This is not universally true, of course, of either sex, but they're meant to be the
01:07:46.440
They're the ones, guys, we would be burping, farting, and killing each other if we were
01:08:01.860
So what's happening again is just to the extreme, the younger guys are all becoming much more
01:08:12.880
And I think that's because they're seeing, no, there's trouble coming.
01:08:17.760
And women, because there is trouble here that's on TV all the time now of suffering, they're
01:08:31.900
But they're being ruled by the emotion of, we've got to help.
01:08:39.740
But the two sexes have been cut off from what they're really supposed to be.
01:08:47.120
And so they're drifting further and further apart.
01:08:51.420
Yeah, it's interesting, especially because, you know, assuming that's the case, then men,
01:08:56.520
as they become more conservative, are attracted, they're less attractive to those women who are
01:09:09.740
And so this is like a genuine population concern.
01:09:15.180
Because how are they going to couple up if they're no longer, they're literally disattracted
01:09:20.280
You know, it happens at the end of every empire, though.
01:09:31.480
Well, I mean, like, but where are the parents in this?
01:09:39.440
I have two stepkids that are older, and then my 14-year-old.
01:09:42.880
And I will say, all of our kids, for the most part, so far, are conservative.
01:10:00.840
And that's, but, but that's, I guess that's part of it is parenting.
01:10:05.620
You've got to, like, you've got to expose them to as much as you can to teach them.
01:10:12.480
You know, we are such a society geared towards, well, he's the expert.
01:10:19.940
So they come back, and you know how kids at that age think about their parents.
01:10:29.040
I think the, the thing is, where are the parents that are willing to say, no college?
01:10:47.940
And there's only a few fields of study that you really need college.
01:10:53.140
And I don't, and I, they're very few and far between.
01:10:55.760
Like, if you want to become a doctor, maybe, or an engineer.
01:11:00.380
An engineer, which is, my daughter wants to be an engineer.
01:11:03.040
Or, you know, I can't even think of maybe a lawyer.
01:11:12.360
My son was talking about something that was, like, way over my head recently.
01:11:18.780
And he's like, yeah, I just, I was just, you know, watching MIT online.
01:11:36.520
And I think a lot of these kids, too, are so caught up in, I want to go to an Ivy.
01:11:49.440
Have you seen, like, what some of these colleges are doing?
01:11:56.880
It's like we've all seen behind the curtain now.
01:11:59.260
You know, as a result of, like, the hearings about the anti-Semitism.
01:12:07.000
I think when they started going after the kids in school.
01:12:28.260
There's a shortage because they drove everyone else out.
01:12:37.540
They're doing it in, they did it with medicine.
01:12:47.440
Well, because, I mean, we've talked about this ad nauseum, how when we go to a doctor,
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we hope that they're our age or older, because then we have faith that they were trained as
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They were trained not to recognize, you know, they weren't trained to be woke.
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That's the most important thing over any medical field of study.
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And so I worry if I ever get into, you know, an emergency situation or a medical situation
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and there's somebody that's in their 30s, I'm like, same with pilots.
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You want every pilot to look like Captain Sully.
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And if they don't, then you're now hearing about, I don't even remember which airline.
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They're all talking about the DEI requirements.
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They went woke and they fired all of the real good engineers.
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My, my uncle who used to do inspections for Boeing, he said, don't ever fly a plane.
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He said, I, I, I watch and I know what others build and I watch every screw.
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There's so many things that can go wrong with them.
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Now I get onto a plane and I look, is that a Boeing?
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Cause I don't, I don't feel comfortable on a Boeing.
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And they're so open about their desire to hire based on skin color or, you know what I mean?
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They're, they're being so open and brazen about it that that's terrifying.
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Well, what was the, I think it was United Airlines.
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I mean, he's got to show everybody that he can dance.
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I want the same number of takeoffs as there are landings.
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And then add to that, the fact that now, you know, kids that are coming up through the
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ranks to be in the, if they're blue collar workers, they're working, you know, they're
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waving the planes in, for example, or they're mechanics or whatever.
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Now it seems like this new, this Gen Z generation, there is not the same level of work ethic or
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And so you think about like, who are the people that are putting together the planes?
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I worry that is, there's just people don't care about their jobs anymore.
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You see it in the service industry all the time.
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And so you go to, you go to a fast food restaurant now and you're just, you know, in the drive
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through, if you're treated right, it's somebody who should have been retired.
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And the rest of them are like, I'm sorry to bother you.
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I know you're on your phone or listening to music, but could I get a hamburger?
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And then the videos we've seen, we've made fun of videos of some of these Gen Zers complaining
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Like we worked like three jobs at once and like had to eat ramen noodles for 10 years.
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I just, what do you, how, how do you combat that?
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That like the work ethic, that spirit of wanting to contribute.
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And wanting to, it's not even forcing them to do it, but we wanted to do it.
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You, you wanted to do that because you wanted to have something at the end of the day that
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There was a, there was an article that I read back in the nineties or maybe right after
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And it was about the coming, uh, movement of non-ownership, all rental, you know, you're,
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you don't own anything all the way to your clothes.
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And it was a philosophical article and it said, what happens to a civilization that was
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And I want to take care of it because it's mine.
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He was talking about how hard it is for, um, you know, 20 somethings at this point to
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even think about having their own home at one point and how it's, if he becomes president,
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one of his missions is to make it possible for people to finance homes easier.
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But he made that exact point that when people can own homes, they care not just about their
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homes, but their communities and their neighborhoods and what those look like and who moves in.
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And it matters to people so much more than when you're just renting and you're just
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That guy's going to be the dark horse, I think.
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Yeah, because I hate to say it, but a lot of stuff that he says I do like, even though
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I had him on CNN and my producer just reminded me of this because I said he at one point
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So, but he called and my producer said, Glenn, he didn't say that.
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He was just, like, living off the Kennedy fortune.
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He was in Hyannis Port, just living off the fortune.
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So, he's like, because I have a really hard time.
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Might not be in my best interest to campaign for it.
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And you don't think he's softened on any of those positions at all?
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I mean, he's said some stuff about 2A in the past, and then I don't know where he stands
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I think he has seen the moment of opportunity, and he is de-emphasizing.
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Who do you think he's going to take more votes from?
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But I think women who see the insanity, they'll look at Trump, they'll look at Biden, and they'll
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I, you know, I used to think it would be Trump.
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And now it seems like most of the more recent polls are showing that he's pulling from both.
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You're like, oh yeah, that implies you believe in something.
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I don't want to believe them because they've let me down in the past.
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Well, I think that's because nobody trusts each other anymore.
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Remember, she stumped for the governor of Indiana,