The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 212 ｜ What Do GOP Women REALLY Want？｜ Chicks on the Right ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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00:00:07.720 It says, suburban women helped Biden win in 2020,

00:00:10.800 and they may play an outsized role in key swing states again.

00:00:17.180 Yes, the sleeper cell that could sway the 2024 election is the mom next door. 1.00

00:00:24.860 And the truth is the GOP is struggling with her.

00:00:27.860 They don't know how to connect.

00:00:30.580 So I brought a couple of experts in who I just, I love,

00:00:34.580 to give the GOP the answer maybe to the age-old question,

00:00:39.760 what do women want? 1.00

00:00:45.640 These two are hysterical. 0.85

00:00:49.600 They have millions of followers.

00:00:53.040 They say the conservative movement needs a makeover, and it does,

00:00:57.700 unless we want another four years of Joe Biden.

00:01:00.460 I think they're right on this.

00:01:02.120 I have so much to talk to them, and they will talk about anything from birth control

00:01:06.700 to the border crisis to poor shorts.

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00:03:21.420 I think I have to start, because if people don't know you, 0.99

00:03:43.480 I mean, I think I have to start with the whore shorts. 1.00

00:03:47.340 We knew it. 0.99

00:03:49.300 Dang it.

00:03:49.800 I was afraid of this.

00:03:50.960 I knew it.

00:03:52.040 Yeah, yeah.

00:03:52.800 That's part of our bio.

00:03:53.820 I mean, you guys are, I mean, I've seen the photos.

00:03:58.040 Yeah. 1.00

00:03:58.500 What a couple of sluts you two are. 1.00

00:04:00.580 Right? 1.00

00:04:01.120 You're only fans.

00:04:02.100 I knew that was going to come up.

00:04:03.220 You're only fans.

00:04:04.440 I just knew that was going to come up.

00:04:07.160 Dang, we were hoping to keep that on the deal.

00:04:08.940 Yeah.

00:04:09.660 What are you going to do? 1.00

00:04:10.560 The whore shorts. 1.00

00:04:11.700 Well, you know what? 0.99

00:04:12.600 It's an interesting story, because we just thought we were taking best friend photos

00:04:18.180 that we were going to have as our PR photos for our website.

00:04:21.420 Right.

00:04:21.600 And the hullabaloo that came out of those photos, because it was July when we took them, and

00:04:27.820 I was in shorts, and you know what I mean?

00:04:29.800 We were still modest. 0.99

00:04:30.900 I mean, I don't wear shorts in the summertime, because I'm not a whore like you. 1.00

00:04:35.380 I don't know anybody but prostitutes that do wear shorts. 1.00

00:04:38.700 I know, right?

00:04:39.240 Who wear shorts in the summertime?

00:04:40.960 I ask you.

00:04:42.600 But that was the reaction.

00:04:44.240 There was just a lot.

00:04:45.480 We've had some people over the years, unfortunately, on our side of the aisle, who were like, that's

00:04:49.700 inappropriate.

00:04:50.200 And you shouldn't show so much leg.

00:04:52.340 It's so crazy that, I find this with religion sometimes, how people will just separate themselves

00:05:03.780 from each other, because, you know, well, you're not Christian enough, or you're not 0.80

00:05:09.560 this.

00:05:10.180 And then, you know, conservatives, and it's so strange, because if you're more of a libertarian

00:05:16.460 conservative, the whole idea is, be who you are.

00:05:21.460 Like, you do you.

00:05:22.420 And there's libertarians who are like, he's not a libertarian.

00:05:25.460 Yeah.

00:05:25.720 You're like, what?

00:05:27.300 Wait a minute.

00:05:28.080 I thought this was, be you, boo.

00:05:30.260 Yeah.

00:05:30.440 But apparently not.

00:05:31.520 Yeah.

00:05:31.780 We've been getting that for 15 years.

00:05:33.580 We've been, in fact, our- 0.97

00:05:34.540 The whore shorts thing? 0.97

00:05:35.200 Well, just the, you're not conservative. 0.99

00:05:37.760 You're not this.

00:05:38.460 You're not that.

00:05:38.940 You don't fit in this compartmentalized little box that I've created for you.

00:05:43.500 And we reject that.

00:05:44.960 We've just always rejected that.

00:05:47.160 Because we feel like if you feel like you're conservative, and you have these conservative

00:05:50.640 ideals, and just come sit at our table, man.

00:05:52.620 Yes.

00:05:52.980 You know, it's what we want.

00:05:54.080 And that's why I think we've, you know, we've just gathered like this, this group of

00:06:00.460 misfits, almost, in our community.

00:06:02.380 And that's, that's what we're most proud of, is building community.

00:06:06.160 That's what we've done, I think, really well after, this week is our 15-year anniversary. 0.94

00:06:12.340 Gosh, we're like cockroaches. 0.88

00:06:14.080 They can't kill us. 0.85

00:06:14.800 After the wars, there were the cockroaches and the chicks on the right. 0.99

00:06:22.380 Exactly.

00:06:22.480 And this was the best way to spend a 15th anniversary.

00:06:24.400 Totally, totally.

00:06:25.620 What a wonderful way to do that.

00:06:27.020 That's not, I mean, you have radio background.

00:06:28.740 We do.

00:06:29.320 Yeah.

00:06:29.960 That's not easy to put people together or have people come together and stay.

00:06:33.620 Well, we were together before.

00:06:35.540 So we were, we became best friends and started a website together back in 2008.

00:06:40.260 And it wasn't until our website received an explosion of publicity because Facebook, we

00:06:47.280 were the first, we were the OGs of getting canceled on Facebook because of our headline.

00:06:51.640 In 2008?

00:06:52.600 Yeah.

00:06:53.140 Yeah.

00:06:53.820 Wow.

00:06:54.320 What did you do back then?

00:06:57.060 I'll tell you, I had written a post.

00:06:59.540 It had something to do with the shorts again.

00:07:02.540 Amazingly, this wasn't about the shorts, but I had written an inflammatory headline about

00:07:07.320 Jay Carney. 0.95

00:07:08.420 So at the time I said something like, Jay Carney can kiss my assular area, I think is how I put 0.96

00:07:13.320 it. 0.98

00:07:13.460 And the, the trolls came out on mass, reported the post and Facebook threatened to shut us

00:07:18.420 down.

00:07:18.900 And at that time that was unheard of.

00:07:21.640 And so it made news and it even got talked about on the view.

00:07:25.320 Oh, this site chicks on the right is getting shut down by Facebook. 0.99

00:07:28.520 Whoopi used, I remember she, nowadays she would never, you know, say, oh, their name is really

00:07:33.100 cool.

00:07:33.380 But like back then, remember she said, that's a cool name.

00:07:35.580 Yeah.

00:07:35.760 She's on the right.

00:07:36.420 Oh my gosh.

00:07:36.920 How times have changed.

00:07:37.940 Right.

00:07:38.560 Well, she was never sincere.

00:07:40.200 I know her.

00:07:41.400 So she's never sincere. 0.93

00:07:42.560 Just crazy.

00:07:43.460 And by the time the radio thing happened, that's why.

00:07:45.820 So it'd be, we got heard about our, you know, our, our popularity exploded at that

00:07:50.780 point.

00:07:51.140 And so people started hearing about us, including the local Indianapolis program director for

00:07:56.020 WIBC.

00:07:57.100 And so he reached out and said, have you ever done radio?

00:07:59.780 And we had appeared as guests on, on a bunch of shows and we were like, yeah, we'll

00:08:03.120 come on your show.

00:08:04.040 He said, no, I was thinking more like you would have a show.

00:08:07.500 And then we auditioned with a lot of other big wigs and somehow managed to score afternoon

00:08:12.740 drive.

00:08:12.920 Yeah.

00:08:13.060 When they offered us afternoon drive, we went into this.

00:08:15.980 That's a big deal.

00:08:16.880 It was a huge deal.

00:08:17.860 But we didn't know.

00:08:18.260 We didn't realize how big of a deal it was.

00:08:20.120 And we went into this conference room with a bunch of these big wigs at WIBC. 0.98

00:08:23.260 And I asked, I asked them if they were drunk.

00:08:26.360 Cause we, I remember that day, like it was yesterday.

00:08:30.160 Cause we just couldn't believe it.

00:08:31.380 Cause we both were in the corporate world and doing this, this chicks on the right thing

00:08:35.380 on the side.

00:08:36.100 And it's always been like our little baby.

00:08:39.180 And it's, when that happened, we thought, oh my gosh, I can't believe this word.

00:08:42.660 What a blessing that was.

00:08:43.860 I mean, we were so grateful for the opportunity and we did that for eight years, about eight

00:08:48.500 years in radio.

00:08:49.460 And then I moved here to Texas and then our podcast, we were doing that simultaneously

00:08:54.100 for a couple of years.

00:08:55.120 And then it was just a divine thing.

00:08:56.900 I think our, our connection, the fact that we were best friends, that was very divine.

00:09:02.280 The way that we met.

00:09:02.700 How'd you guys meet?

00:09:03.280 Oh, that's such a story.

00:09:04.920 It's the best story ever, actually.

00:09:07.440 Very serendipitous.

00:09:08.260 So she grew up in Georgia as did my husband.

00:09:11.300 And, um, but then she was in Indianapolis.

00:09:13.300 I was in Indianapolis.

00:09:14.140 I was a corporate recruiter and I was looking for a writer.

00:09:17.240 She was a medical writer at the time.

00:09:18.980 And I had interviewed her on the phone.

00:09:20.960 I'd found her resume.

00:09:21.800 She applied.

00:09:22.480 I interviewed her.

00:09:23.140 It didn't work out for whatever reason.

00:09:24.480 And that was back in 2007.

00:09:26.440 And then in 2008, when people were starting to get really, really comfortable with Facebook

00:09:30.660 and using it a lot.

00:09:31.620 Um, and you, it, back in the day, you could see if you had a friend that became friends

00:09:36.600 with someone else.

00:09:37.540 Right.

00:09:37.880 And I saw that one of the groomsmen in our wedding who was from Atlanta, like my husband

00:09:42.340 was friends with, with her on Facebook.

00:09:45.360 And I remembered her name because she hyphenated it on Facebook and it's an unusual last name.

00:09:50.240 I don't know if you want to.

00:09:51.000 Yeah.

00:09:51.420 My, my, my maiden name is Putz.

00:09:53.500 I mean, this is why I have a good sense of humor.

00:09:56.780 My gosh.

00:09:57.540 I remembered it, obviously.

00:09:59.380 And I reached out to our groomsmen online.

00:10:01.860 I was like, I, why do you know her?

00:10:04.260 Like, I know I interviewed her here in Indianapolis and he said, well, I grew up with her and so

00:10:09.220 did your husband.

00:10:09.980 And so then I immediately had to contact her and say, I know you don't remember.

00:10:13.520 Stay away from my husband.

00:10:15.120 No. 1.00

00:10:16.360 Oh, no, you're not the whore short. 1.00

00:10:17.840 No. 1.00

00:10:17.920 I wasn't the whore short. 0.97

00:10:19.600 Right. 0.99

00:10:20.060 And she stalked me. 0.95

00:10:21.200 I mean, she.

00:10:21.540 I did stalk you.

00:10:22.140 She stalked me a little bit. 0.99

00:10:22.760 I was a little afraid of her at first.

00:10:24.320 I was like, she's a little.

00:10:25.880 Because you know how you know when you're just going to connect with someone?

00:10:28.680 Yeah, but that sometimes scares other people.

00:10:31.200 It's a little scary.

00:10:31.960 It's a little scary.

00:10:32.440 Yeah, it is.

00:10:32.500 I'm a little scary.

00:10:33.340 I'm not having it.

00:10:34.440 A little bit.

00:10:35.100 No, but you're not saying, I know we're supposed to be together.

00:10:38.800 Uh-huh.

00:10:38.900 Right.

00:10:39.100 That gets a little.

00:10:40.040 She didn't.

00:10:40.640 But she was very persistent.

00:10:43.320 And she was like, we've got to meet.

00:10:44.280 We've got to meet.

00:10:44.760 And I said, OK, fine.

00:10:46.080 You know, she was wanting me to come in to meet her to talk about this job that she had. 0.99

00:10:49.940 And I already had a job.

00:10:51.500 And so I was like, I really don't need to do this, but I'll meet her anyway because it's the

00:10:55.060 right thing to do, you know, because this background that we have.

00:10:58.480 So I went and I met her.

00:11:00.380 And it was like stepbrothers.

00:11:02.060 Did we just become best friends?

00:11:03.780 It was kind of that.

00:11:04.160 My best friend and I, we met through radio.

00:11:07.160 And we didn't think we'd like each other at all over the phone.

00:11:11.820 But somebody said, you two have to get together.

00:11:14.300 By the time we hit the airport exit, we were best friends.

00:11:18.620 I mean, instantaneous.

00:11:20.220 Yeah, you just know.

00:11:21.180 We just knew.

00:11:22.120 And then since we've just been kind of inseparable ever since.

00:11:25.280 And that was the summer of 2008.

00:11:26.920 And she did come work for my company. 0.99

00:11:28.380 I did.

00:11:29.140 And we had never been political at that point, really ever.

00:11:33.340 I mean, we voted and that was about the extent of our interest.

00:11:35.780 I don't think people.

00:11:37.840 I mean, I wasn't until 2001.

00:11:40.900 Really?

00:11:41.540 Yeah.

00:11:42.280 I hated politics.

00:11:43.700 I hated talk radio.

00:11:44.940 Yeah.

00:11:45.260 I hated it at all.

00:11:46.640 I went in kind of like with Fox when I went to Fox.

00:11:51.080 I kind of mocked it from the inside.

00:11:53.600 That's what I was doing on talk radio until September 11th.

00:11:57.340 And then it got serious all of a sudden.

00:12:00.440 Yeah.

00:12:00.640 It was pivotal.

00:12:01.180 And for us, it was Obama.

00:12:02.820 It was, who is this guy?

00:12:04.500 Everybody thinks he's a rock star.

00:12:05.620 This is so weird.

00:12:06.680 What's happening? 1.00

00:12:07.040 You're a racist. 1.00

00:12:07.780 You're racist. 1.00

00:12:08.660 Obviously. 0.96

00:12:09.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:12:09.760 Obviously, we've been called that a lot since 2008.

00:12:13.880 But that was just a very strange phenomenon for us.

00:12:17.040 And so we talked about that a lot over chips and salsa.

00:12:19.760 We would go to the Mexican restaurant at lunch because we worked together.

00:12:22.700 And we like culturally appropriating, obviously.

00:12:25.000 Right.

00:12:25.160 Totally.

00:12:26.000 Exactly.

00:12:27.500 Totally.

00:12:27.860 Again, with the racism. 0.99

00:12:31.660 You embrace it because you're racist. 0.96

00:12:33.200 Right. 0.59

00:12:33.800 Exactly.

00:12:33.940 So we would go to lunch every day and we'd be talking about it.

00:12:35.900 And I'm like, you know what?

00:12:36.380 We should start a website.

00:12:37.760 Because the way that we talk about this is in a way that a lot of people aren't talking

00:12:41.800 about it, which is very conversational.

00:12:43.760 And, you know, just two chicks talking about politics. 0.97

00:12:46.280 And so we came up with the idea of Chicks on the Right. 1.00

00:12:49.120 And we did blog in a way that was very conversational.

00:12:53.560 And it kind of gained a cult following at the beginning.

00:12:57.860 Weirdly enough, it was just like our parents at first reading it.

00:13:00.960 I don't even think my parents read it.

00:13:02.220 My parents made it.

00:13:03.500 I don't think they did.

00:13:04.760 I'd like to think my parents read it at first.

00:13:07.040 And then we gained a little cult following.

00:13:08.840 And then it kind of snowballed a little from there.

00:13:10.500 And then we got the, you know, the whole deal where we were shut down.

00:13:14.040 And then we got a little bit more and more.

00:13:15.840 And then it sort of became what it is today.

00:13:18.720 It's crazy.

00:13:19.500 And I just, I feel like a lot of it really is.

00:13:22.460 I mean, for lack of a better phrase, it is divine.

00:13:25.200 I feel like a lot, we were supposed to be doing this.

00:13:26.980 Because there have been times along the way in the past 15 years where, at least, I won't speak for you, but I've tried to walk away from it.

00:13:32.760 Because I've been thinking, well, maybe, you know, we're getting a little too old for this.

00:13:36.940 We're hens now.

00:13:38.100 You know, we're not chicks anymore. 0.99

00:13:40.460 Because we've never reached the level.

00:13:42.400 The hens on the right.

00:13:42.960 The hens on the right.

00:13:44.500 We've never reached the level where we're like superstardom.

00:13:47.480 You know, we've always had just a nice steady level of success.

00:13:50.500 And we both have worked in corporate America.

00:13:52.640 Between the two of us, we've been in corporate America.

00:13:54.420 We were for a collective, like, half century.

00:13:57.100 So, I mean, I've always thought, well, maybe the right thing to do is to work in corporate America.

00:14:02.600 And so I've tried to step away, you know, a time or two.

00:14:05.660 And it's always pulled me back.

00:14:07.900 And so there's just.

00:14:09.300 I'm irresistible.

00:14:10.140 Right.

00:14:10.600 It's.

00:14:12.640 And very modest.

00:14:13.940 Very modest.

00:14:14.640 I think their humility is their best quality.

00:14:16.980 That and the horse shorts.

00:14:17.700 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:14:19.420 Right.

00:14:20.520 So explain the names.

00:14:22.780 Oh.

00:14:23.720 So before Chicks on the Right, I had a blog that was. 0.51

00:14:29.120 I set it up with a few friends back in the day and then took it over completely.

00:14:32.260 And it was all about just wanting to poke fun at strange people, celebrities, even some politics here and there.

00:14:39.140 And so I knew it was going to be a blog dedicated.

00:14:42.740 And I wanted to write about things in a mocking way.

00:14:45.740 I wanted to mock things.

00:14:46.720 And I'd asked my husband at the time, I need a name because I knew that the site name was going to be the mock doc, like because it just worked.

00:14:52.980 And I said, but I need a name to go with that because I don't want to use my real name because there's crazies out there.

00:14:57.880 And he said, how about the Macarena?

00:15:00.400 And I was like, I love that.

00:15:03.080 And so it's always been shortened to mock.

00:15:05.880 And that's how I came to be known.

00:15:07.860 And it just sort of transferred over when we started Chicks on the Right. 0.95

00:15:10.880 And interestingly, when we were in radio and we switched from afternoons to mornings, there was a time when we thought we should go by our real names.

00:15:18.840 We've written a book under our real names.

00:15:20.580 We should actually try to establish our real names now that everybody knows who we are anyway.

00:15:25.080 And our audience revolted.

00:15:27.320 Like they were like, you cannot do that.

00:15:29.100 We know you as mock and daisy.

00:15:30.800 And we were like, okay, okay.

00:15:32.800 And so we just left it.

00:15:34.040 Where did daisy come from?

00:15:34.860 It's not as interesting.

00:15:36.920 I mean, I just like the flower daisy.

00:15:38.940 I had to come up with the moniker.

00:15:40.080 And I have a tattoo of a daisy on my hip.

00:15:41.940 And so I was like, I'll just go with daisy.

00:15:43.240 It works.

00:15:43.860 So it's not nearly as interesting.

00:15:45.640 Yeah, you got to come up with a better story.

00:15:47.280 I know, right?

00:15:47.820 Just make something up.

00:15:48.740 I do, don't I?

00:15:49.280 Yeah, you really do.

00:15:49.860 I got to lie and come up with something better.

00:15:52.420 So you and I have something in common.

00:15:56.980 I have a daughter with cerebral palsy.

00:15:59.100 That's right.

00:15:59.920 Yeah.

00:16:00.260 I think I did know that.

00:16:01.440 Yeah.

00:16:01.820 And she's not in the situation that your son is in.

00:16:07.980 Why don't you explain for anybody who doesn't know you guys, your situation with your son?

00:16:13.760 So my older son is 27.

00:16:16.560 And he was born premature.

00:16:19.620 Both my kids were actually.

00:16:20.920 So my oldest son was born at 30 weeks.

00:16:24.480 And it was a completely disastrous birth.

00:16:27.200 It was just a complete nightmare.

00:16:28.480 And I was at a, it was on a Saturday.

00:16:30.960 I had no idea that I was even ill, but I had preeclampsia.

00:16:33.780 And so it became an emergency.

00:16:35.160 And I was sent to a teaching hospital where there were no staff physicians monitoring the monitor that I was hooked up to.

00:16:42.080 Yeah.

00:16:42.340 So it took about eight hours before they realized, oh, his heartbeat is decelerating with every contraction.

00:16:47.420 Maybe we should get him out.

00:16:49.120 And so by the time they did get him out, he was blue.

00:16:52.500 And so he suffered, obviously, a lack of oxygen to the brain, which, you know, is the cause of that.

00:16:56.300 And then on top of cerebral palsy, he had periventricular leukomalacia, which is a mouthful, but it is a damage to the white matter of the brain.

00:17:04.680 So that actually, I think, is what caused most of his disabilities.

00:17:09.340 Because cerebral palsy, as you know, is, you know.

00:17:12.020 Kind of a blanket.

00:17:12.700 Yeah.

00:17:13.300 I mean, you just really have no idea how involved someone will be.

00:17:16.900 And so he's been, I mean, he's, you know, been completely dependent on others for every aspect of his care since he was anybody.

00:17:25.700 When my daughter was born, they said, if this happened to an adult, you'd never walk, talk, feed themselves, et cetera, et cetera.

00:17:36.520 I lucked out.

00:17:37.420 My daughter is just an absolute miracle.

00:17:39.480 But it is probably the hardest thing I've ever had to do.

00:17:46.840 Yeah, it's not easy.

00:17:47.720 I mean, she's at the point where she, you know, she's, you wouldn't notice, you would just notice some things were off, but you wouldn't know exactly what it was.

00:18:01.340 And she is the brightest, sweetest, kindest person.

00:18:08.760 And I always feel, I don't know, I've always felt like I'm going to answer for just not having the patience or dedicating my everything to.

00:18:22.960 And I know you did.

00:18:25.140 And now you get heat because you can't physically handle him.

00:18:30.540 Yeah, I mean, because we moved him into like a, I don't want to say assisted living, but I guess that's kind of what it is.

00:18:37.620 It's a, it's a, it's a house.

00:18:39.220 It's just a regular house that he shares with a roommate now, which has 24 hour care.

00:18:43.140 And I'm getting heat or I have gotten heat recently because I made that sort of public that we're moving from Indianapolis to South Carolina.

00:18:50.120 He's going to be staying in Indiana in his house because they have remarkable care there.

00:18:56.160 And, and, and it was a really difficult decision to move him because, you know, we'd cared for him for 23 years and all of a sudden to realize our bodies are breaking and we're not going to be able, we're not going to be able to do this any longer.

00:19:09.720 And we're not giving our younger son the kind of life that he needs to have.

00:19:14.520 We could never go anywhere as a family, for example, because of the wheelchair van only fitting a certain number of people. 1.00

00:19:19.500 I mean, there was always, there were always other factors to take into account, but yeah, I've gotten some recent heat about that.

00:19:25.560 And interestingly, I just, I wanted you to know that, that I started listening to you during the Terry Schiavo story.

00:19:31.620 And I, I, it meant so much to me that your take on it, because the pictures of her and the videos of her responding to her parents reminded me so much of my son.

00:19:43.400 That's exactly the look, right?

00:19:45.800 That look of joy.

00:19:47.260 It was, it, that's why her story connected with me so much and why I started following you.

00:19:52.300 I tell you, it is, that was the, you know, I, I, uh, I was on the other side at first because I didn't really think it through.

00:20:00.320 I thought, well, I wouldn't want to be that way.

00:20:02.600 Well, that, that, wait, wait a minute.

00:20:04.680 Um, and then I got to know the family, um, and I believe she was absolutely there, you know, just not, just not in the way she was, but she was absolutely there.

00:20:18.160 And any society that devalues life is in trouble.

00:20:24.120 And we, boy, we are in big trouble.

00:20:27.720 Yeah, because, I mean, what, Thomas, they told you that Thomas wasn't supposed to live past a certain age.

00:20:32.720 And I, you know, and being her best friend for, what, 16 years, I look at all the things that she's been through with him.

00:20:40.220 And he's just, he, he.

00:20:43.160 It's, teenagers are hard enough.

00:20:45.160 Right.

00:20:45.920 Just teenagers.

00:20:47.100 Exactly.

00:20:47.660 But then when you add, oh, he's got to have surgery this week.

00:20:50.280 He's got to do this.

00:20:51.120 He just, this happened to him.

00:20:52.280 It's like a lot of physical stuff that happens.

00:20:54.860 And, um, I mean, personality wise, he can't speak.

00:20:58.700 He can't tell you what's wrong with him, but he's just like her.

00:21:02.120 He's just like her.

00:21:03.640 Cause his disposition.

00:21:04.760 He wears shorts.

00:21:05.580 He wears the horse shorts.

00:21:07.940 But he's, but he is just like in, in the respect that he's so positive.

00:21:12.640 You know what I mean?

00:21:13.320 The fact that he is 27 is just remarkable. 0.97

00:21:16.080 He's a freaking superhero, you know, that kid. 0.91

00:21:18.460 And, and so that's a testament to the human spirit. 0.97

00:21:21.820 It's, he's, he's a rock star.

00:21:24.580 That kid, I get emotional when I talk about that.

00:21:26.940 Cause I've seen what she's gone through, you know, and it's just, that kid's remarkable.

00:21:31.860 She's remarkable.

00:21:33.100 He's remarkable. 1.00

00:21:33.780 And people who judge that, I want to punch them in the face. 1.00

00:21:37.100 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:21:37.680 You just can't, unless you've lived that experience, it's just not okay to judge it.

00:21:43.080 You know, and you know, it's just, it's like with everything, we all have different tolerance

00:21:51.960 levels, you know, and it's so, some people it's just so easy and, and others besides being

00:22:01.440 physical others, it's just, it's difficult.

00:22:05.720 It's difficult.

00:22:06.600 I, I, my daughter has tough time communicating times and I, I always, I always walk away

00:22:13.980 just thinking, you know, a better man could do this.

00:22:19.940 A better man could break through and understand and, and, you know, it just plays games with

00:22:26.100 you.

00:22:26.300 Yeah.

00:22:27.200 At least it did with you.

00:22:27.940 No, I totally get it.

00:22:29.440 Yeah.

00:22:29.920 Yeah.

00:22:30.340 Um, so, um, let's talk a little bit about the state of the world first.

00:22:40.220 You guys are happy and optimistic.

00:22:43.860 How do you do that?

00:22:47.280 You know, we just did a deep dive about my rage that I had, um, earlier this week, as

00:22:54.520 a matter of fact, cause we were having an unseasonably nice day in Indianapolis and I took a walk through

00:22:58.820 our neighborhood and I have been, you can ask her, anybody can vouch.

00:23:03.080 I have been the happy, optimistic person since I was itty bitty.

00:23:08.320 That's just my nature.

00:23:09.320 I laugh all the time.

00:23:10.580 I love to laugh.

00:23:11.720 I, you know, that I love it.

00:23:13.400 And, and I'm genuinely a happy person, but this last few years has made me so angry in

00:23:20.160 so many ways.

00:23:21.020 And we have a responsibility.

00:23:22.600 I feel like we do, um, to our audience to be happy warriors because that's how we've

00:23:28.560 always been, but it has become harder, um, over these last few years.

00:23:32.980 And earlier this week, when I took my walk, I realized that I saw strangers in the neighborhood

00:23:38.120 that were Hispanic, that got out of their car suddenly with big bags and were looking

00:23:43.400 very suspicious.

00:23:44.520 And ultimately I think that they were putting flyers in everybody's mailbox to sell whatever

00:23:49.360 service they might've been selling, but the rage, I felt that I was afraid where I would

00:23:54.580 have never been afraid of that three years ago, four years ago.

00:23:57.960 And now, why are you afraid?

00:23:59.900 Because of the border, because of how, because of all the crime, because of how people have

00:24:05.840 become so humanity less, you know what I mean?

00:24:10.240 There's just this lack of humanity and love for one another.

00:24:13.260 And I am fearful, which I've never been before in ways that I've never been before.

00:24:18.980 And so I had to vent to her and I was like, I'm, I'm so mad at Joe Biden for making me

00:24:24.980 afraid and for making me angry.

00:24:26.780 Cause that's not who I am.

00:24:28.020 It's weird.

00:24:28.400 Cause I think she started out more as the, everything is great.

00:24:31.880 When we started the site, she was very much of the, she saw everything with rose colored

00:24:35.140 glasses and I was more of the cynic.

00:24:37.600 And I think we've switched places.

00:24:39.600 We totally have.

00:24:39.880 It's really weird.

00:24:40.940 That's good.

00:24:41.480 That's a good relationship.

00:24:42.640 My wife and I are like that.

00:24:43.840 Really?

00:24:44.240 Yeah.

00:24:44.660 Where, you know, one is up, the other one is down.

00:24:48.380 That's, that's great.

00:24:49.720 And so we've, yeah, we've just, it's weird.

00:24:51.820 Otherwise you're both down here.

00:24:53.340 Yeah.

00:24:53.580 I mean, I think she's right that we do have a responsibility to our audience.

00:24:56.040 So we try to keep it upbeat and it, and you know, we're best friends.

00:24:59.440 We like to have fun.

00:25:00.120 It's like when you have a friend or when you have a marriage or whatever, it's, you don't

00:25:03.260 want to be doom and gloom all the time.

00:25:04.620 You want to have fun together.

00:25:05.740 So that's, I think doing it together, doing what we do together, as opposed to doing it as a

00:25:11.420 solo operation makes it like we're having a party every day.

00:25:15.220 You know, we're having, we're having a girl's day out every day.

00:25:17.460 I mean, we, even though we're having to talk about really serious things and we do it, we

00:25:23.220 touch on the serious things, but we always end our show.

00:25:25.340 We'll do like an hour, hour and a half show, sometimes two hours, depending on what kind

00:25:28.940 of a news cycle it is.

00:25:29.860 But we'll always end the show with funny TikToks or funny stories or, you know.

00:25:36.280 And you guys are meme machines.

00:25:37.820 Yeah, we do like funny memes.

00:25:40.060 We'll do just, we'll try to find positive, good things in every single day because, you

00:25:45.980 know, we're in a cycle of suck right now where things are just not, they're just not that

00:25:51.180 great. 0.92

00:25:51.520 I mean, I live in Texas and I, we are, we're on the border.

00:25:54.920 And so I, we, I understand that things are not the greatest.

00:25:58.260 And so I, I try to pep her up.

00:26:00.300 She tries to pep me up.

00:26:01.280 We do it with our audience and, and that is our responsibility.

00:26:04.520 And it's not to say that, you know, even when I have these, these flashes of rage, that

00:26:09.040 what we do on our show isn't genuine because it absolutely is.

00:26:12.060 And we do genuinely have a great time, but I've found the longer that you're in sort of

00:26:17.500 this world where you are consuming the news and the news cycle constantly and you never

00:26:22.460 get a break because it's, you have to know what's going on.

00:26:24.720 24 seven.

00:26:25.580 I, I have to have like meltdowns a couple of times a year where I have to like on a

00:26:30.760 weekend, just watch, you know, steel magnolias or like beaches or something and just let it

00:26:37.300 out because otherwise you, it will wreck you.

00:26:40.620 And I don't want to be, I don't want to be someone who's filled with rage.

00:26:44.240 And so I know the way, you know, I know how to self care enough that like, I know I need

00:26:48.580 a good cry sometimes and then I'll be fine and then I'll get right back to it.

00:26:52.260 But yeah, I've noticed that the rage comes more often under this administration than

00:26:57.100 it ever has before.

00:26:57.800 And I just have cows. 0.97

00:26:59.080 So, you know.

00:27:00.100 That helps.

00:27:00.660 Cows help.

00:27:01.040 That does help.

00:27:01.600 And dogs.

00:27:02.000 It does help.

00:27:02.560 Totally.

00:27:02.900 Yeah.

00:27:03.260 I learned a phrase.

00:27:05.260 We were having a problem with my, one of my teenagers and we just didn't know what to

00:27:10.360 do.

00:27:10.580 So we went to a psychologist or psychiatrist and said, all right, we're losing our minds.

00:27:18.160 And he said, remember this phrase, huh?

00:27:23.840 It's going to be interesting to see how you work that out.

00:27:29.680 And I said, wait, what?

00:27:32.700 He said, you say that to teenagers.

00:27:35.440 They're old enough to work it out now and they dump all these things on you and you as

00:27:41.860 the parent feel like I got to get them.

00:27:44.360 He said, start saying the phrase, huh?

00:27:47.620 I'm interested to see how you're going to work that out.

00:27:50.160 I love that.

00:27:50.740 I love that.

00:27:51.020 I absolutely love that.

00:27:52.900 Yeah.

00:27:53.340 And so I've been saying that about the news now lately.

00:27:55.960 It's like, huh.

00:27:57.440 It's going to be interesting to see how that works out.

00:28:00.440 Senator.

00:28:01.340 Yeah.

00:28:02.240 I love that.

00:28:04.260 That is fantastic.

00:28:05.560 Yeah.

00:28:05.740 Just a little easier.

00:28:06.900 So you guys are about as big of fans as of the Republican Party, I think, as I am.

00:28:13.240 Oh, yeah.

00:28:14.080 Huge fans.

00:28:14.880 Yeah.

00:28:15.500 Just love them.

00:28:16.780 They can't get out of their own way.

00:28:18.540 Oh, yeah.

00:28:19.080 So frustrating.

00:28:19.740 We say that a lot.

00:28:20.680 Yeah.

00:28:20.860 I think we say it in a probably a more vulgar way.

00:28:23.860 Yeah.

00:28:24.600 They step on their own, you know what, a lot.

00:28:27.200 Yeah.

00:28:27.340 They do that.

00:28:28.400 And it gets very frustrating because for 15 years, we feel like we've been saying a lot

00:28:33.100 of the things where they just, their PR is terrible.

00:28:36.840 Horrible.

00:28:37.400 They can't get, and it seems like it's such an obvious fix.

00:28:41.020 Right.

00:28:41.140 A lot of these things are so.

00:28:42.020 But a lot of them are 81 years old.

00:28:45.020 Yeah.

00:28:45.940 You know what I mean?

00:28:46.760 Or older.

00:28:47.860 Yeah.

00:28:48.120 Yeah.

00:28:48.860 Yeah.

00:28:49.140 They're just like not.

00:28:50.220 I mean, it is time for that generation to let go.

00:28:53.080 Yeah.

00:28:53.100 I hear you.

00:28:53.680 Go.

00:28:54.320 Yes.

00:28:54.720 But they also, I mean, I think they, I think the party is stronger on constitutional things

00:29:04.460 than it has been in the 25 years I've been watching.

00:29:08.920 Yeah.

00:29:09.180 But they're still, they're still not in charge.

00:29:12.660 Why do you think that they stay so long?

00:29:14.620 Why, why are these old people hanging on? 1.00

00:29:16.240 Is it because of power?

00:29:17.440 Power and money.

00:29:17.900 It's the power.

00:29:18.760 It's the power and money.

00:29:19.380 And they all come out wealthy.

00:29:21.180 Wealthy.

00:29:21.420 Yeah.

00:29:21.460 But I mean, Obama said at some point you've made enough money, right?

00:29:25.620 So what is that?

00:29:26.440 Has he?

00:29:26.640 What's that about?

00:29:27.560 Has he made?

00:29:27.980 Yeah.

00:29:28.160 What is it?

00:29:28.660 I'm wondering.

00:29:29.500 What's the figure?

00:29:30.560 Yeah.

00:29:30.920 I'll wait for him to tell us that amount.

00:29:33.080 Yeah.

00:29:33.360 I'd like to know what that.

00:29:34.420 Long past the time he's passed it.

00:29:35.140 The actual monetary figure is, yeah.

00:29:38.180 But one of the problems you guys have, I think, is, and rightfully so, 0.83

00:29:43.460 the right inability to connect with women.

00:29:48.620 Yeah.

00:29:49.380 And we're right here.

00:29:50.660 I mean, it doesn't seem hard.

00:29:53.580 And yet, you know, we're also disillusioned by a lot of the suburban moms 0.97

00:29:58.160 that we are lumped in with, right?

00:30:00.640 Because we think so differently.

00:30:01.760 I mean, there's so much of this white guilt that so many liberal suburban moms 1.00

00:30:07.680 are bogged down with that we cannot relate to at all.

00:30:12.600 The ones that put, like, the things around their faces during COVID

00:30:15.460 and their Facebook profile, and they're like,

00:30:17.960 I just got vaccinated and, like, all that.

00:30:20.400 I mean, it's like a virtue signal, and they feel guilty about things.

00:30:24.420 And we just, yeah, we don't identify with that at all.

00:30:26.800 We're just not those people.

00:30:28.200 But there are a lot of women like us. 1.00

00:30:30.120 I think there are.

00:30:31.760 I want to believe there are.

00:30:32.580 We feel like there are.

00:30:33.720 They're out there.

00:30:34.420 They come to our meet and greets.

00:30:35.600 They hang out with us.

00:30:36.560 They talk to us.

00:30:37.480 We have a great community.

00:30:38.620 I mean, they're there.

00:30:40.140 And I feel like those people represent more people that just haven't found us,

00:30:43.720 or they just don't say that they found us.

00:30:45.800 So I don't, we feel like they exist.

00:30:48.120 We feel like there are more women like us that have common sense. 1.00

00:30:51.840 That's not, it's there.

00:30:54.440 That's all it is.

00:30:55.080 It's common sense.

00:30:55.900 It is.

00:30:56.460 Yeah.

00:30:56.940 It is.

00:30:57.240 It's the kind of type.

00:30:58.140 I think it's a lack of gratitude.

00:31:01.140 Yeah.

00:31:01.440 A lack of humility.

00:31:03.480 A lack of compassion more and more.

00:31:06.720 And common sense.

00:31:07.800 Mm-hmm.

00:31:08.120 That's it.

00:31:09.300 Yeah.

00:31:09.580 If we were just grateful for a few things, it would be nice.

00:31:13.000 Yes.

00:31:13.620 Yes, the graciousness.

00:31:14.820 That's what I try to always teach my daughter.

00:31:16.980 My daughter is, I have a stepdaughter, and a daughter is 14.

00:31:19.780 And I'm just like, just be grateful.

00:31:21.860 Be grateful that you're American, that you live in this country. 0.98

00:31:25.480 You could be living in a crap hole country somewhere and not have, she's a swimmer. 1.00

00:31:30.600 She's a state level swimmer. 0.96

00:31:31.720 And I always say, there are countries where you're not even allowed to swim.

00:31:35.360 Imagine that.

00:31:36.280 I mean, you can't wear this.

00:31:37.660 You can't do this.

00:31:38.380 You can't drive.

00:31:39.200 You can't, think of the, just the freedom you have as a woman to be a woman. 0.99

00:31:44.920 Is the women's movement a sham? 0.85

00:31:48.740 Totally.

00:31:49.780 Is there a women's movement now? 0.99

00:31:51.600 Or is it just-

00:31:52.520 It's an abortion movement. 0.87

00:31:54.040 Right.

00:31:54.480 It's basically-

00:31:55.180 An abortion movement.

00:31:55.800 An abortion nipple movement. 0.87

00:31:56.700 But what is a woman now? 1.00

00:31:57.900 I mean, that's the thing.

00:31:58.700 Yeah, well, that's a great point.

00:31:59.260 People apparently have trouble defining it now.

00:32:01.060 So I don't even know if that exists anymore, the way that we used to know a women's movement

00:32:06.020 to exist.

00:32:06.820 Yeah, speaking of swimming.

00:32:07.660 Yeah.

00:32:07.960 It's like, there is, right.

00:32:10.020 You can't, they can't define what a woman is. 1.00

00:32:12.220 And then there are men trampling in our spaces.

00:32:14.780 And so it's-

00:32:15.700 I mean, I think it's the most anti-woman thing I've seen in my lifetime.

00:32:22.760 Oh, yeah.

00:32:23.480 Totally.

00:32:24.160 Yeah.

00:32:24.520 I mean, it's like all of that work to define a woman as strong and independent and, you know,

00:32:33.420 the individual and all of it now, and women being shamed if they don't say, he's a beautiful

00:32:42.700 woman.

00:32:43.320 Yeah.

00:32:43.560 No, he's not.

00:32:44.320 Or he can come and play in my sport.

00:32:46.640 Right.

00:32:47.380 Like, what is that?

00:32:48.320 And where are the feminists? 1.00

00:32:49.400 Where are they?

00:32:51.160 And so we always ask that question and there's crickets.

00:32:53.700 I know.

00:32:54.120 Well, where are the feminists on, you know, I love these people who are the LGBTQ community 1.00

00:33:00.920 that is protesting and marching for Hamas or Palestine, and you're like, they'll kill you. 0.97

00:33:10.420 Right.

00:33:10.440 Who's going to tell them?

00:33:11.320 Yeah.

00:33:11.880 You know, could I buy you a bus ticket?

00:33:14.400 Right.

00:33:15.040 You know, because when you get over there, you might realize, eh, they don't feel the same

00:33:20.100 way about you.

00:33:20.840 It's craziness. 0.83

00:33:21.960 It's bananas.

00:33:22.160 We were just, we were talking about, was it a Reddit thread that we saw? 0.98

00:33:25.660 Um, the, the trans ideology has become so ridiculous and so offended by everything and 1.00

00:33:31.200 so demanding of others to not just accept, but embrace and adore them. 0.89

00:33:36.380 Um, and they get so hurt if you don't, you know, use the pronouns or do whatever.

00:33:40.800 There was a thread on, I think it was Reddit where someone had written in on behalf of their

00:33:45.640 friend who was a trans woman who had just sent away for a 23 and me test.

00:33:50.580 And the 23 and me test came back showing that he was a man and they asked, is there any way

00:33:57.240 that they can be more accommodating to trans people?

00:34:00.800 It's DNA.

00:34:02.560 I mean, like, what do you want to, I don't, how do you accommodate this?

00:34:05.180 Science is transphobic now.

00:34:06.380 It's like biology, science is, is data.

00:34:08.820 It's, it's transphobic.

00:34:09.880 It's just madness.

00:34:10.760 There's this big move to, um, leave modernity, that modernity is the problem.

00:34:17.140 Um, that's the enlightenment.

00:34:20.300 Oh my gosh.

00:34:21.260 That's, you know, proving things through facts.

00:34:24.620 Yeah.

00:34:25.160 Well, facts are, facts are hurtful.

00:34:27.540 They're hurtful now.

00:34:28.580 They're so mean.

00:34:29.360 I mean, they're super mean.

00:34:30.320 Well, facts can hurt, you know, when, you know, when I was an alcoholic and people said,

00:34:37.480 you're a drunk. 0.69

00:34:39.520 Yeah. 0.95

00:34:40.140 That hurt, but it was true. 0.95

00:34:42.580 Yeah.

00:34:43.060 Mm-hmm.

00:34:44.400 So if a man dresses up as a woman and does all the things and he tries to identify as 0.82

00:34:50.100 a woman and you say, but you're still a man, that's hurtful.

00:34:53.640 Well, it's still reality.

00:34:55.680 It's still true. 0.77

00:34:55.920 Dude, you can wear a dress if you want, but I don't, if I, my, my, my line here is, if

00:35:05.000 I take you to the hospital, do I say that you're a woman or a man? 0.99

00:35:12.180 Right.

00:35:12.840 You know, if you're bleeding out and you got some problem going on, the first thing I'm

00:35:18.120 going to say is, she's a he. 0.52

00:35:21.080 Yeah.

00:35:21.780 You know, so why should I be forced to lie the rest of the time?

00:35:26.560 Or if they dig your bones up a hundred years from now, what are they going to say you are?

00:35:30.660 Right.

00:35:30.960 Yeah.

00:35:31.440 Facts are facts, even when they're mean.

00:35:34.580 So let's go to this movement.

00:35:40.400 It's weird because we always overcorrect.

00:35:42.760 We're good in the middle.

00:35:44.460 You know what I mean?

00:35:45.420 When we're too collective, we're a problem.

00:35:49.200 When we're too me, me, me, we're a problem.

00:35:51.920 We're just good when humans are good, usually in the middle.

00:35:54.900 We're overcorrecting, I think, with the trad movement, the trad wives. 0.92

00:36:05.020 Talk to me about that.

00:36:07.120 That's interesting because they, you know, did it start on TikTok?

00:36:10.740 I don't even know where this began.

00:36:12.480 Probably everything crazy starts on TikTok.

00:36:15.340 But, I mean, isn't it just sort of an influencer?

00:36:19.480 It's like people have run out of things.

00:36:22.300 Everything cycles back.

00:36:23.560 And so people have run out of ways to influence.

00:36:25.600 Well, I think everything is extreme now.

00:36:27.680 It's like we're going to extremes.

00:36:29.180 It's like instead of just like experiencing a balance, like if you just want to, if you want to be a stay-at-home mom, that's fantastic.

00:36:38.400 You know, I think people should be encouraged to do whatever they want to do.

00:36:41.240 So as a woman, if you want to be a stay-at-home mom, be a stay-at-home mom, if you want to be a traditional, like, wife and mother, do that.

00:36:46.420 But now they're like, everybody should be a trad wife. 0.96

00:36:49.540 You see what I'm saying?

00:36:50.460 Like there's also, we've talked about this in podcasts where, you know, they've, people have gone the route of nobody, like women shouldn't work outside of the home. 1.00

00:37:00.480 They shouldn't work.

00:37:01.100 We've done deep dives on this.

00:37:03.720 And I don't, I'm not sure where that comes from.

00:37:05.940 I'm not sure in the conservative movement why that would be, why that would be appealing for people.

00:37:12.500 I think we should be encouraging women to do what they want to do.

00:37:15.040 If that's work outside the home, that's great.

00:37:17.360 If they want to stay home, it should be stay-at-home.

00:37:18.940 That falls into the line of, well, freedom?

00:37:23.040 Well, isn't this, I mean, it's the, the conservatives are doing what the old liberals used to do.

00:37:31.160 And that would shame you for going to, or not going to work, for staying at home.

00:37:36.460 Yes.

00:37:36.840 Oh, well, you're, oh, you're just a mom. 1.00

00:37:39.860 Yeah.

00:37:40.760 That's, yeah, that's a pretty big job that I don't want.

00:37:44.880 You're just a mom. 1.00

00:37:46.360 So they were shaming and saying, you have to go to work or you're not a woman.

00:37:51.380 Well, can't we just live our lives and let everybody choose?

00:37:55.160 Exactly.

00:37:55.700 There's a pendulum swing.

00:37:56.800 It's like, it was that, it was like shaming them.

00:37:58.720 And then we went all the way over to the other side where it was like, people were working

00:38:02.120 at home, people were working outside the home, the women were working outside the home. 0.99

00:38:05.240 And that was too much.

00:38:06.080 And then we, it's like, there needs to be a balance, you know, we went through the same

00:38:09.600 thing is happening with contraception. 0.85

00:38:11.000 It's so happening with birth control.

00:38:12.620 We're going through the birth control thing now.

00:38:14.260 We just did a deep dive on birth.

00:38:15.680 We're a lot of these young influencer, young women influencers, conservatives are saying,

00:38:22.040 don't take birth control.

00:38:23.260 We're Gen Xers.

00:38:24.260 So, I mean, we're a little bit older, just a little bit, just a tiny bit older.

00:38:29.060 So we've lived through a couple more years of, okay, we've seen birth control, maybe from

00:38:34.800 a different perspective where some people were helped by it.

00:38:38.780 Other people were harmed by it.

00:38:40.580 But I think that we can find a happy medium where it, you know, just decide on your own.

00:38:45.220 Do I want to take it or do I not want to take it?

00:38:47.300 It may work for some people.

00:38:48.620 It may not work for other people, but that should be an individual.

00:38:51.000 Some people shouldn't have lots of babies. 1.00

00:38:56.300 Right.

00:38:57.480 Correct.

00:38:58.260 Yeah.

00:38:58.680 And I'm not one for sterilization, but give me a couple more years and I might be.

00:39:05.380 But, you know, there are some people that they would have birth control because they know.

00:39:10.620 Yeah.

00:39:10.920 I don't, if you don't want to be a mom or a dad, you shouldn't be one.

00:39:14.480 Yeah.

00:39:14.620 We know people, we know women who are like that, who have chosen, you know, they're, and 0.51

00:39:18.660 they're lovely.

00:39:19.300 There are lovely, there are a lot of like lovely women that we know. 1.00

00:39:22.820 We're like, gosh, she would have made the most wonderful mother, but they have chosen

00:39:26.380 not to.

00:39:27.180 Right.

00:39:27.500 For whatever reason, they just don't want to be mothers and that's okay. 1.00

00:39:31.940 That's their choice.

00:39:33.400 I think what sets, the reason that we ended up doing a deep dive on the contraception issue

00:39:37.880 in particular, just a week or two ago.

00:39:39.840 I can't even believe, I mean, I honestly cannot believe we're having this conversation.

00:39:43.180 Oh, we, yeah.

00:39:43.780 Because I've heard this trope from the left for so long.

00:39:48.600 Yeah.

00:39:48.920 They want to take away your birth control. 1.00

00:39:50.860 And I'm like, oh, shut up. 1.00

00:39:51.900 It's ridiculous. 1.00

00:39:53.060 Yeah. 0.81

00:39:53.600 To have people actually seriously say.

00:39:57.700 You shouldn't take it.

00:39:58.360 You shouldn't take it.

00:39:58.940 Yeah.

00:39:59.140 Because it's harmful.

00:40:00.300 Like you shouldn't take it.

00:40:00.900 That's the thing is that those same young influencers who, by the way, don't even have

00:40:05.240 kids yet or aren't married yet, are injecting their faces with all kinds of chemicals while

00:40:10.160 they rail against the bad things that are in birth control.

00:40:13.360 And it's just like, Botox is botulism.

00:40:15.660 I mean, what?

00:40:16.060 Yeah, I know.

00:40:16.820 It's a toxin.

00:40:17.680 You're shoving that in.

00:40:18.120 So it's just, that's what led us, I think, ultimately to do that conversation about it

00:40:22.780 because we're just like, we're seeing the hypocrisy and it's this judgmental tone that

00:40:27.040 some of these young influencers are taking that we're like, how about you just let women

00:40:31.220 make the best choices for themselves?

00:40:33.460 Yeah.

00:40:33.760 How about that?

00:40:34.400 Yeah.

00:40:34.720 It would be great if conservatives could sort of take a step back and realize that we

00:40:40.020 are like the party of personal responsibility.

00:40:42.720 Yeah.

00:40:43.300 Yeah.

00:40:44.020 So do that. 0.56

00:40:44.940 So I saw an influencer in America.

00:40:48.900 I said, look at this woman. 1.00

00:40:52.800 Excuse me.

00:40:53.880 And my wife said, we know that family.

00:40:59.020 And I was like, wait, wait, what?

00:41:02.220 It's a woman who lives maybe in Wyoming.

00:41:06.740 She has like eight kids.

00:41:09.640 They churn their own butter.

00:41:11.780 They live like, I would never, ever want to churn my own butter.

00:41:20.440 There's no reason.

00:41:21.560 Well, especially when you can go to Family Dollar and buy it.

00:41:23.640 Right.

00:41:24.180 I mean, there is no reason.

00:41:26.280 But they live this really old style life by choice.

00:41:32.840 Yeah.

00:41:33.060 And they're not saying you should live that way.

00:41:36.200 They just do.

00:41:37.340 Yeah.

00:41:37.940 And I think it's nuts.

00:41:40.280 It's cool to watch.

00:41:41.440 I don't believe that the children, all eight children are like happily churning butter,

00:41:46.260 you know, when the camera is not on.

00:41:47.820 But there is, in really thinking about this family, there is something about all of this,

00:42:02.460 you know, our phones and everything else that you like.

00:42:06.180 I don't want any of that.

00:42:07.700 I get that.

00:42:08.480 I want a blender.

00:42:09.780 Yeah.

00:42:10.160 And I want to be able to buy my.

00:42:12.020 You like your smoothies.

00:42:12.940 I like my smoothies.

00:42:13.960 Right.

00:42:14.180 I get it.

00:42:14.680 But there is something to be said.

00:42:17.540 I get it.

00:42:18.240 I mean, I get that.

00:42:19.000 Because we have a little ranch.

00:42:20.220 And I understand this.

00:42:21.340 I like going out and being outside and having the simplicity of nature.

00:42:24.920 I mean, I understand the need for that.

00:42:27.480 And there are days where I'm like, I hate my phone.

00:42:29.820 I hate social media.

00:42:30.940 I get it.

00:42:32.100 But can we go back?

00:42:33.560 I mean, can we?

00:42:34.360 At this point, like the toothpaste is out of the tube.

00:42:36.620 Don't you think?

00:42:37.480 I think we could if we were forced to be.

00:42:40.200 Which we might be.

00:42:41.360 Yeah.

00:42:41.480 We might be.

00:42:41.940 Because I've been paranoid about EMPs and like power grid stuff for decades.

00:42:46.780 I've been worried about it.

00:42:47.600 She has been.

00:42:48.420 Yeah.

00:42:48.900 And now it seems more likely than ever that it's just a ticking time bomb.

00:42:53.420 You know, I tell you, with AI, you both are religious.

00:42:57.360 Yeah.

00:42:57.580 Right?

00:42:57.740 Yeah.

00:42:58.020 Yeah.

00:42:58.180 Mm-hmm.

00:42:58.520 With AI, I've thought, because I've been on AI since the 90s and watching it and trying

00:43:08.420 to figure out how society is going to deal with this and how will it deal with society.

00:43:13.620 And it's an alien life form.

00:43:14.840 I don't like it.

00:43:16.120 It's scary.

00:43:16.760 It is scary. 0.99

00:43:17.400 It needs to be burned with fire. 0.99

00:43:19.580 Don't like it. 0.99

00:43:20.620 Yeah.

00:43:20.820 I don't like it either.

00:43:21.780 At all.

00:43:22.280 But I thought, you know, in the old biblical story of the Tower of Babel, there's in the

00:43:31.260 Hebrew oral tradition, there's several faces of God.

00:43:34.900 The one that comes down is not the angry God.

00:43:37.240 The one that comes down to destroy the Tower of Babel is the loving God.

00:43:42.220 He comes down and sees his people trapped in slavery.

00:43:46.780 And so what does he do?

00:43:49.540 Because they're building this tower that will make them like gods, he confuses their language

00:43:56.920 so no one can talk to each other.

00:43:58.880 And I thought, that's what an EMP would do.

00:44:02.780 Uh-huh.

00:44:03.940 It would confuse our language so we couldn't communicate with each other.

00:44:09.480 When we've gotten so used to communicating with each other, what do we do?

00:44:11.780 And it would force us to go back and do real relationships and real communication.

00:44:20.660 I mean, it would be horrendous.

00:44:23.380 First, it would destroy a lot of things.

00:44:25.500 Oh, millions of people.

00:44:25.740 She always jokes that I would last 45 minutes without power.

00:44:28.800 I think about 25.

00:44:31.420 Oh, I think I'd be praying for death, you know, within the week.

00:44:35.240 A lot of people would.

00:44:36.360 A lot of people would not survive that.

00:44:38.000 And then you're right.

00:44:38.800 And then people would get back to actually connecting on it.

00:44:41.260 Because, I mean, I think about, again, we're Gen Xers.

00:44:44.260 And so I remember the days where you would actually connect with people and you'd talk to them

00:44:48.820 on the phone.

00:44:49.440 And I try to encourage that with my 14-year-old daughter.

00:44:51.820 I'm like, get on the phone and talk to your friends.

00:44:54.540 Talk to them.

00:44:55.680 Talk to them for two hours like I used to talk to my best friends.

00:44:58.740 Get to know them.

00:44:59.640 Have that intimacy with people because that is so missing in this generation.

00:45:04.380 And I weep for them.

00:45:05.940 That's what makes us inhumane to each other.

00:45:09.300 Totally.

00:45:10.320 Like, because we see it.

00:45:11.180 I mean, we've lived it for the past 15 years.

00:45:12.840 It's like when we started our site, we never realized we would get the amount of hate that

00:45:17.140 we did.

00:45:17.780 The death threats we put two guys in jail.

00:45:20.500 I mean, it's like there's the amount of hate that you get from people who don't know you

00:45:24.260 Does it drive you crazy that you'll hear once in a while from a lefty, I published this article.

00:45:35.620 And I mean, I feel like I'm getting hate.

00:45:39.600 I'm getting death threats.

00:45:41.560 And you're like, welcome to the party, pal.

00:45:43.740 Welcome to the party.

00:45:45.880 Yeah.

00:45:46.000 That's my life for the last 20 years.

00:45:47.720 You wrote an article and people were mean.

00:45:50.780 Oh, I'm so sorry.

00:45:52.340 It's horrible.

00:45:54.300 I feel so bad for you.

00:45:56.100 That's when you respond with the meme of Taylor Lorenz crying.

00:46:00.460 So I'm so sorry that that happened.

00:46:03.740 How do you guys deal with that?

00:46:05.660 We've gotten thick skins over the years.

00:46:08.360 Now we have a wall of shame.

00:46:09.480 We just make money off those people. 0.98

00:46:10.800 That's my favorite.

00:46:14.900 But at the beginning, it really hurt.

00:46:16.840 It hurt to be called a racist at the beginning.

00:46:19.100 It hurt to be.

00:46:20.100 Oh, my gosh.

00:46:21.060 It hurts so bad.

00:46:21.920 Because we were sincere about it.

00:46:22.940 Yeah.

00:46:23.520 And now you get called a racist.

00:46:25.500 You're like, whatever.

00:46:26.780 You know, it's like it just doesn't.

00:46:28.180 That word means nothing.

00:46:29.660 Nothing.

00:46:30.800 Isn't that terrible?

00:46:31.880 Horrible.

00:46:32.340 That that word means nothing now?

00:46:33.860 Well, what's worse is it means the opposite to some people.

00:46:40.620 Yeah.

00:46:40.900 Yes.

00:46:41.820 Yes. 1.00

00:46:41.940 It means because you're white, you're unforgivable. 1.00

00:46:46.920 You're a racist. 1.00

00:46:48.240 Yeah. 1.00

00:46:48.520 But you're unforgivable because of what white people have done. 0.95

00:46:51.580 You're like, what? 0.94

00:46:52.740 I think that's the definition.

00:46:56.300 I know it's old school or at least school.

00:46:59.940 Yes.

00:47:00.260 But, you know.

00:47:02.060 And it's like they overuse racists so much that they had to move on to white supremacists.

00:47:08.200 And even we've gotten that.

00:47:10.040 Oh, yeah.

00:47:10.340 We've gotten all the names.

00:47:11.440 It's crazy.

00:47:12.060 Yeah.

00:47:12.200 We've all the terrible names we've gotten.

00:47:14.120 So now it doesn't really bother us at all, which is weird because we actually were really

00:47:18.740 nice people when we started our site.

00:47:20.340 We're a little more jaded now.

00:47:21.560 I know we're a little bit more.

00:47:22.340 Yeah.

00:47:22.960 A little more thick skinned. 1.00

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00:49:17.780 Do you ever, I mean, because you are mean machines, do you ever come across things and you're

00:49:27.220 like, eh, wish I wouldn't have done that?

00:49:28.980 There are times I will, like, because I handle our Instagram as she handles our Twitter, and

00:49:35.800 sometimes I will see something and then I'll run it by her, and I'll be like, mom, what

00:49:41.060 do you think?

00:49:42.500 Because I don't...

00:49:43.100 For some reason, she thinks I'm going to have a better filter.

00:49:44.840 Because I'm like, my filter's down.

00:49:46.580 I don't, like, I can't tell today.

00:49:48.260 I don't know about my filter.

00:49:49.560 And so we usually, sometimes we'll just run things by each other.

00:49:53.520 And I don't know, are we even good filters for each other?

00:49:56.120 I don't think so.

00:49:57.040 Because we want to say all the things.

00:49:58.640 I was going to say, we run stuff by each other, too, and we end up doing it.

00:50:01.740 It doesn't always work out the best.

00:50:03.900 But there are glimmers of hope about that, right?

00:50:06.480 When you see the success of Chappelle, or the fact that Shane Gillis was just on SNL doing

00:50:12.640 actual...

00:50:13.360 Doing that monologue.

00:50:14.460 Fantastic.

00:50:15.200 That was, I mean...

00:50:16.060 That gave me hope.

00:50:17.020 I know.

00:50:17.460 I thought that was a watershed moment.

00:50:20.320 Yep.

00:50:20.740 It's comedy coming back.

00:50:22.040 Yeah.

00:50:22.340 And the one thing authoritarians do not like is comedy.

00:50:27.440 Yes.

00:50:28.480 You know, which, why Barack Obama was always just portrayed as this nice guy.

00:50:34.140 Yes.

00:50:34.580 You know, he's like, he's never the butt of a joke.

00:50:37.620 Never.

00:50:38.120 Well, you can't do that because racist, right?

00:50:39.820 Right, right.

00:50:40.840 But you can't do it against Biden because it's racist, too.

00:50:43.620 But for that to happen, and for him to use words that have been long banned...

00:50:51.560 Yeah.

00:50:52.340 ...was shocking and refreshing.

00:50:56.160 Mm-hmm.

00:50:56.500 Mm-hmm.

00:50:57.060 You know, we lose our sense of humor.

00:50:59.100 Yes.

00:50:59.740 We're done.

00:51:00.340 I know.

00:51:00.940 We miss the 80s.

00:51:01.780 There was a...

00:51:02.540 When we first started radio, I mean, it was early, early, early on, and we were making

00:51:09.360 fun...

00:51:09.640 I don't know.

00:51:09.960 There was a Grammy or award show or whatever, and we had made fun of Miley Cyrus, and I was 0.95

00:51:15.040 like, oh my gosh, this is just so retarded. 0.96

00:51:17.220 And oh my gosh, the blow up that happened over that was extraordinary.

00:51:23.280 And isn't that amazing from...

00:51:24.600 Coming from a mom...

00:51:25.660 Yes.

00:51:26.280 Right.

00:51:26.700 And so I felt like I had some moral authority on that topic.

00:51:30.780 Uh-huh.

00:51:31.140 So when we started getting the emails, and you know, I never meant anything against people

00:51:37.360 with mental disabilities.

00:51:39.120 Right.

00:51:39.200 That word had been... 0.77

00:51:40.020 You know, it's like when people say, oh, that's so gay.

00:51:42.340 She just meant something against Miley Cyrus.

00:51:44.340 It is exactly like the N-word is to the African-American community.

00:51:50.900 Yeah.

00:51:51.240 Yes.

00:51:51.480 It doesn't mean that.

00:51:52.720 Exactly.

00:51:52.900 It doesn't.

00:51:53.560 Exactly.

00:51:53.720 And so I was stunned at the instant rebuke that I got from so many people.

00:51:59.920 And you know, we had just started, and I got all worried.

00:52:01.740 Oh my God, I'm going to get in trouble.

00:52:03.400 But we, you know, we ended up writing an entire chapter about that in our book in 2014,

00:52:08.000 because I was like, you know what?

00:52:09.220 I've got some things to say about this, and all of this manipulation of language, and this,

00:52:13.300 you know, people not understanding the spirit of intention behind words, and instantly just

00:52:19.660 judging you for being some sort of demon.

00:52:22.040 And also how they change the rule book.

00:52:23.860 Right.

00:52:24.120 The rules always change.

00:52:25.660 It changes all the time.

00:52:26.500 And it's like, it used to not be that way when we were growing up, and when we were in

00:52:30.160 our 20s and 30s, and then they all of a sudden are like, oh, the rules have changed, just

00:52:33.340 FYI.

00:52:33.840 Yeah.

00:52:33.960 Well, where's the book?

00:52:35.440 And I think the last thing...

00:52:36.520 I love the fact that, like, the language changed overnight for a period.

00:52:41.180 It seemed like every day there was a new word, and everybody on TV knew the word, but I had

00:52:46.880 never even heard the word before.

00:52:48.620 Can you send me the appendix?

00:52:50.220 Because I didn't get it.

00:52:51.800 And that's why we finished out that chapter, and there was, like, a line in it.

00:52:56.260 I'm paraphrasing my own self at this point, because I don't remember exactly how we wrote

00:53:00.180 it.

00:53:00.260 But we said something like, my son, and I refer to my son, my son has mental retardation. 0.98

00:53:07.160 Miley Cyrus is retarded, and there is a difference. 0.94

00:53:10.040 And we were referring to that moment where she brought twerking to the mainstream. 0.97

00:53:15.160 That was what we were referring to.

00:53:16.640 I don't think there was a higher cultural moment than that.

00:53:21.340 Absolutely.

00:53:21.820 I can see why the rest of the world looks at us and says, wow.

00:53:26.200 But that's what...

00:53:27.000 Shane Gillis is getting all the heat for using that word in his monologue.

00:53:31.540 And I don't know, maybe...

00:53:33.000 You know, I just really felt, like you said, like that was a watershed moment.

00:53:35.840 And maybe people are starting to come around and not be so insane.

00:53:39.840 And loosen up.

00:53:40.860 Yeah.

00:53:40.960 Well, I remember when political correctness back in the late 80s, early 90s started, and

00:53:50.000 it was like, you know, handicap, handicapable.

00:53:56.820 If it's handicapable in one generation, it will mean the same thing as handicap. 0.80

00:54:03.460 Exactly.

00:54:03.760 What are you doing?

00:54:05.160 But there were...

00:54:05.680 I don't remember what they were, but there were a few things that I'm like, okay, well,

00:54:08.720 if that makes people feel better, that's fine.

00:54:10.760 I don't care.

00:54:12.720 Boy, what a mistake that was.

00:54:14.580 Yeah.

00:54:15.260 What a mistake that was.

00:54:17.000 Because we gave people permission.

00:54:18.820 There's like a spiral.

00:54:20.000 Yeah.

00:54:20.440 Change the language.

00:54:22.240 Control the conversation.

00:54:23.540 Yes.

00:54:23.900 That's exactly right.

00:54:25.200 And then there was differently abled. 0.97

00:54:27.860 And I mean, there's so many ridiculous words. 0.85

00:54:30.480 And, you know, as a mom of a kid with special needs, I think that's another way of saying, 0.67

00:54:35.360 you know, at some point, I just want to just be able to say things and not have to worry,

00:54:41.300 who am I offending?

00:54:42.140 Whose toes am I stepping on?

00:54:43.580 What's the correct word du jour?

00:54:44.980 It's all such nonsense. 0.98

00:54:45.760 And she was like, all of this manipulation is retarded. 0.99

00:54:48.800 Exactly.

00:54:49.640 It is.

00:54:50.580 That's basically what you were thinking. 1.00

00:54:51.160 It's gay and retarded. 1.00

00:54:52.320 It is. 1.00

00:54:55.820 We're so never coming back to the show again.

00:54:58.080 The opinions of the guest are not necessarily...

00:55:02.120 We're never coming back.

00:55:04.040 No, you're welcome here anytime.

00:55:06.920 I will tell you, though, I have four children.

00:55:11.220 Two of my daughters would... 0.99

00:55:13.860 They look at me all the time because I'll say, that is so retarded. 1.00

00:55:18.780 Yeah. 0.97

00:55:19.320 And they look at me.

00:55:20.600 Dad.

00:55:21.460 Dad.

00:55:21.920 You can't say that.

00:55:22.900 Don't say that word anymore.

00:55:24.680 We have that.

00:55:25.200 Yeah.

00:55:25.560 Yeah.

00:55:25.780 You have that too?

00:55:26.360 I have that too.

00:55:27.080 Yeah.

00:55:27.660 And my daughter's, you know, for all intents and purposes, she's pretty conservative. 0.89

00:55:31.200 I would say she's a conservative kid, but there are things you can't say now.

00:55:34.820 I know.

00:55:35.440 So let me ask you this question.

00:55:37.800 Because I just turned 60.

00:55:39.500 So I'm older than you guys.

00:55:41.460 And now I'm like, well, I remember my grandpa.

00:55:46.500 And he was 65.

00:55:50.400 And he would say, and I'd go, Grandpa, you can't say that anymore.

00:55:54.560 You can't say that.

00:55:54.860 And you really couldn't.

00:55:56.220 And he was like, ah.

00:55:58.700 He was Archie Bunker.

00:55:59.940 Right.

00:56:00.340 And I'm like, gosh, am I just not recognizing it now?

00:56:05.740 And I am my grandpa.

00:56:06.800 Yeah, but don't you, like my husband's 60.

00:56:08.980 But once you get to a certain age, because I feel like, well, I think you get a pass.

00:56:14.540 I think that's.

00:56:15.260 But I don't think I'm there yet.

00:56:17.300 I think that used to be 60.

00:56:19.440 I think 55.

00:56:20.800 Really?

00:56:21.160 Once you get to like a certain age, you're like, you know what?

00:56:23.380 I can say what I want. 0.99

00:56:24.600 Y'all come bugger off. 0.99

00:56:25.720 Yeah. 0.99

00:56:26.020 I think.

00:56:27.560 I like that.

00:56:28.640 And I'm pushing for that.

00:56:29.540 I think we should all push for it.

00:56:30.740 I think at this table, we should just decide.

00:56:33.220 Okay.

00:56:33.480 If they get to decide on language, we get to decide on that, you guys.

00:56:36.420 Yeah.

00:56:36.460 Yeah.

00:56:37.100 It's, it's, it's well before the age of our president.

00:56:40.640 I'll just say that.

00:56:41.580 Yes.

00:56:42.020 And everybody goes, it's grandpa.

00:56:44.080 He just.

00:56:46.100 It bothers me that that's what we're.

00:56:48.120 We have our state department saying that.

00:56:50.000 Exactly.

00:56:50.200 He's old.

00:56:51.700 He's very well-meaning though.

00:56:53.280 Just give him some ice cream. 0.58

00:56:54.700 Yeah.

00:56:55.280 So what do you think happens?

00:56:57.540 What, what is coming our way?

00:56:59.540 Oh my gosh.

00:57:00.240 Well, she is a lot more negative about it.

00:57:03.560 I'm trying to remain positive.

00:57:04.940 Um, so no nuclear winter in your.

00:57:09.440 It's not my playbook.

00:57:10.920 No.

00:57:11.240 I just think EMP without the nuclear.

00:57:14.160 Exactly. 0.98

00:57:14.860 We're all screwed. 0.96

00:57:16.240 Um, well, I, I, I am hoping that, um, that Trump is going to pull it out. 0.96

00:57:23.240 Is that, is that, you guys are not, one of you is Trump.

00:57:28.600 I, listen, I'm, I'm, I'm team nobody.

00:57:31.260 I'm just team conservative.

00:57:32.780 I just want, I want us to rally.

00:57:34.920 I really didn't have a horse.

00:57:36.280 She had more of a horse and I, I just, I just want to win.

00:57:40.840 And my horse, my horse wore high heels and smiled weird.

00:57:44.460 So my horse is gone now.

00:57:46.980 He's still doing his thing in Florida, but that was my horse.

00:57:50.000 You shouldn't probably say high heels because that leads to a completely different picture

00:57:54.080 in today's world.

00:57:55.040 Right, exactly.

00:57:55.660 They weren't high heels, but I, yeah.

00:57:57.560 That's what everybody said.

00:57:58.900 Lifts.

00:57:59.440 Lifts.

00:57:59.840 I wish that we were more of a rallying group.

00:58:03.440 Like we would rally more and get together and, and we weren't so segmented and fragmented.

00:58:08.220 And I want to, I know that makes us, we're individuals.

00:58:11.800 I know.

00:58:12.220 And I, I do love that.

00:58:13.300 I do.

00:58:13.900 But at the end of the day to win, we got to like, I'm a team player.

00:58:18.700 You know what I mean?

00:58:19.340 When, when it comes to like team sports, we got to, okay, that's fine.

00:58:22.440 You can all be individual and do your individual, but now we got to win.

00:58:25.380 And I, and I will, I will, I will rally.

00:58:27.820 I will rally too.

00:58:28.760 Okay.

00:58:28.980 And I want to win.

00:58:30.260 Yeah, I know.

00:58:30.560 I want to win.

00:58:31.500 I just worry that there's a lot of people that aren't going to rally.

00:58:33.660 I feel like there's going to be a lot of people that won't rally.

00:58:36.580 So talk to me about women. 1.00

00:58:38.980 That's who's not going to rally.

00:58:40.400 We're very difficult.

00:58:42.000 We're a difficult species.

00:58:43.920 No.

00:58:44.220 We are.

00:58:44.840 I know in your 60 years, you probably never noticed that.

00:58:47.900 I never have.

00:58:48.880 But there are.

00:58:49.960 Being surrounded by women in my life and my children, my girls.

00:58:54.160 It's.

00:58:54.740 Haven't noticed it.

00:58:55.660 So for all the estrogen, it's so frustrating because.

00:58:58.840 I think a lot of women feel like they want to date these candidates. 0.99

00:59:02.520 And I have never felt that way.

00:59:04.500 And I feel like I'm an anomaly.

00:59:05.720 I'm just thinking Bob Dole.

00:59:07.100 I don't want to date Bob Dole.

00:59:09.360 I don't want to date Donald Trump.

00:59:11.520 You know, I don't want to date DeSantis, even though I know you thought he was Ron DeSantis.

00:59:15.880 I mean, back in the Navy days.

00:59:17.840 She thought he was dreamy and that's fine.

00:59:19.540 But I don't want to date any of these guys.

00:59:21.080 I just want them to run my company.

00:59:23.020 You know, that's how I look at them.

00:59:25.020 And, you know, we have good candidates.

00:59:29.200 We have had.

00:59:30.300 We've had some good candidates.

00:59:34.760 And so I think we have some people, a person for the job that can do the job better than the person that we have now.

00:59:42.640 Yeah.

00:59:42.800 And I just wish women would get on board with that and not nitpick a lot of the personality things that don't need to be nitpicked so much. 0.55

00:59:52.140 I have to tell you, when he's not president, I think Donald Trump is hysterical. 0.92

00:59:58.260 Hysterical. 0.51

00:59:59.160 When he is president, I'd like some of the comedy to stop.

01:00:05.300 Right.

01:00:05.600 You know, what the greatest thing is, is I've always felt that a president with a twitchy eye will stop all wars.

01:00:18.360 You know what I mean?

01:00:19.100 And he did it like North Korea and everybody else. 0.91

01:00:21.820 Yeah.

01:00:21.960 Yes.

01:00:22.160 He did.

01:00:23.040 Because when your enemy goes, I think that guy will do it.

01:00:26.860 Yeah. 1.00

01:00:27.440 You know, he's just crazy. 0.99

01:00:28.780 He might do it. 0.99

01:00:30.440 Yes.

01:00:31.120 That's Donald Trump.

01:00:32.240 Right.

01:00:32.520 But sometimes as the American people, you're like, I think that guy might do it.

01:00:38.660 Yeah.

01:00:38.820 That's a problem.

01:00:39.640 Exactly.

01:00:39.960 And when Putin says he wants Biden in office rather than Trump, I mean, I feel like that's a sign that, you know, you want him in office.

01:00:49.120 Because he's afraid of Trump.

01:00:51.540 There's a little bit of a healthy fear there.

01:00:53.880 And that's a good thing.

01:00:55.140 It is.

01:00:55.940 The liberals won't tell you that.

01:00:57.120 The liberals will say that, oh, you know, they're BFFs.

01:01:00.120 No.

01:01:00.480 Well, they also said that he destroyed the peace of the world and, you know, our reputation.

01:01:07.640 I don't think so.

01:01:09.560 You might have a different definition of destroyed.

01:01:12.240 Yeah.

01:01:12.700 Because I would apply that to right now.

01:01:14.740 Exactly.

01:01:15.020 They're also going to tell you that eggs aren't expensive now.

01:01:18.160 Right.

01:01:18.720 I mean, hello.

01:01:19.500 Have you been to a grocery store?

01:01:20.240 And that your wages are up.

01:01:21.340 Yeah.

01:01:21.540 And everything doesn't cost a lot.

01:01:22.680 And Bill Maher just does not shop for his own food, apparently.

01:01:25.160 How do you feel about the guy from Kellogg's coming out the other day saying, you know,

01:01:30.020 I know it's tight for a lot of families, but they should consider eating cereal for dinner.

01:01:34.320 Oh, my God.

01:01:35.980 No.

01:01:38.140 No.

01:01:38.900 Right?

01:01:39.500 I'm more of a state girl.

01:01:40.760 Yeah.

01:01:41.080 And don't you feel like there's times, and I've kind of said it less lately because I don't

01:01:48.320 feel we are this anymore, but I used to be like, we're American.

01:01:53.580 Yes.

01:01:54.440 You know, we, no, no.

01:01:56.900 No.

01:01:57.480 We are going to find our way out of this.

01:01:59.840 Exactly.

01:02:00.160 We're not going to settle.

01:02:01.660 Yeah.

01:02:01.940 And now it seems like, you know, we're getting to the point where it's like, can somebody just

01:02:06.240 make this stop?

01:02:07.380 Yeah.

01:02:07.860 Exactly.

01:02:08.480 Like, you eat cereals for dinner, like, when dad goes out of town.

01:02:12.360 Right.

01:02:13.200 Or when you just really don't want to cook.

01:02:14.980 No.

01:02:15.300 Cereal for dinner is when mom goes out of town.

01:02:17.480 Mom goes out of town.

01:02:18.320 That's right.

01:02:19.080 That's right.

01:02:20.160 That's like extenuating circumstance, you know?

01:02:23.160 And for him to go, you should just eat that for dinner.

01:02:25.240 It's like, oh my gosh, what are we turning into?

01:02:27.700 Mm-hmm.

01:02:27.900 Yeah.

01:02:28.600 It's like we're settling.

01:02:29.280 It's like everything is preparing us to have a lower standard.

01:02:32.880 To eat bugs.

01:02:33.440 Yeah.

01:02:33.900 Exactly.

01:02:34.440 Yeah.

01:02:34.720 And to lower our standards and be prepared to severely diminish our quality of life.

01:02:40.620 I mean, everything is leading us to be prepared for that.

01:02:44.120 I don't like it.

01:02:44.720 I remember in 2006, I think, I noticed something.

01:02:52.040 I don't remember what the story was, but I noticed a change in the language of some of

01:02:57.980 the elites.

01:02:58.500 And, you know, it had always been, we're going to bring the rest of the world up to American 0.60

01:03:04.300 standards.

01:03:05.520 And then they said, can't be done, but we have to all be in it together.

01:03:11.940 And I thought, the only way to do that then is to bring us down to the rest of the world.

01:03:18.940 That's a horrible idea.

01:03:20.520 Yes, it's horrible.

01:03:21.300 But I think that's what they're doing.

01:03:22.680 Mm-hmm.

01:03:23.440 It's the new world order.

01:03:25.040 Yeah, the globalist mentality.

01:03:26.960 Gosh.

01:03:27.680 Not okay.

01:03:28.480 Of equity.

01:03:29.260 Yeah.

01:03:29.420 And then we're no longer the beacon on the hill.

01:03:32.120 Yeah.

01:03:32.480 There's nowhere to escape to.

01:03:33.980 Yeah.

01:03:34.320 There is nowhere to escape to.

01:03:35.960 Because, you know, her parents, Polish immigrants, came over here.

01:03:40.680 You're a Polak? 1.00

01:03:41.600 I am.

01:03:42.100 Sorry, just that's it.

01:03:42.920 She is.

01:03:43.320 She totally is.

01:03:45.660 How dare you?

01:03:46.540 How dare you?

01:03:47.700 She's so offended.

01:03:48.980 Right.

01:03:49.640 Yeah.

01:03:49.800 But they came over here.

01:03:51.100 And then I can only imagine how they feel about the state of our union.

01:03:57.140 Oh.

01:03:57.280 Or any legal immigrant. 0.86

01:03:58.500 Oh.

01:03:58.680 Or any legal immigrant. 0.86

01:03:59.740 Or any legal immigrant that came here and did it the right way and everything that's

01:04:03.920 going on right now with the border and just the state of our country.

01:04:07.120 I think it is so, I don't know why they are making up things to be offended by when

01:04:17.200 there are things that actually should be offensive.

01:04:20.980 And I think they are.

01:04:22.100 Like Hispanics, oh no, Hispanics all want the border open. 1.00

01:04:25.860 No, they don't. 0.72

01:04:26.500 No.

01:04:27.100 They don't.

01:04:27.400 They came here for a reason.

01:04:29.040 Exactly.

01:04:29.460 And that reason was to leave lawlessness.

01:04:32.960 Uh-huh.

01:04:33.620 You know?

01:04:34.220 And it's just assumed.

01:04:37.360 Yeah. 0.90

01:04:37.620 And to say, you know, well, the black community, it can never pull itself up. 1.00

01:04:44.560 I don't know.

01:04:45.260 I know a lot of successful black people.

01:04:47.620 You know what I mean?

01:04:48.600 And the statements that the left makes about people and about we have to protect, no.

01:05:00.100 Yeah.

01:05:00.400 No.

01:05:01.320 It's the soft bigotry of low expectations.

01:05:03.620 We would have never crossed the Missouri or Mississippi River with this.

01:05:08.300 Never.

01:05:09.360 Never.

01:05:09.980 Yeah.

01:05:10.300 Yeah.

01:05:10.780 Yeah.

01:05:11.040 You're absolutely right.

01:05:11.900 And legal immigrants, I think, too, and the children of them have a much higher love

01:05:19.980 and appreciation for being American.

01:05:21.760 I think in so many U.S.-born people.

01:05:24.940 I mean, it's remarkable how much more patriotism legal immigrants have.

01:05:29.940 Who was it that we just talked about becoming a U.S.?

01:05:33.400 Dolph Lundgren.

01:05:34.260 Dolph Lundgren.

01:05:34.880 Yes.

01:05:35.180 And he was so excited.

01:05:37.220 Oh, my gosh.

01:05:37.660 Right?

01:05:37.840 Yeah.

01:05:38.260 And that's the spirit when you see those naturalization ceremonies that are always so moving,

01:05:42.700 because those people really cared about becoming American, not just getting into the country.

01:05:48.480 And it's not an easy choice.

01:05:49.660 No, it's not.

01:05:50.480 You have to say, to be an American citizen, you have to say, I disavow.

01:05:55.620 Yes.

01:05:55.880 I mean, I have a friend who's Scottish, and if you know a Scot, they're Scottish. 0.99

01:06:03.860 If it's not Scottish, it's crap. 1.00

01:06:05.340 Yeah, right. 1.00

01:06:06.400 It's, I mean, Scotland built America, according to him.

01:06:10.560 And he'll, like, Carnegie.

01:06:13.680 You know who Carnegie was?

01:06:15.260 Anyway.

01:06:15.460 But he wrestles with, I have to leave that part.

01:06:25.480 And it took him a while before he saw, no, to be an American doesn't mean government, doesn't mean it.

01:06:32.360 It means this.

01:06:33.900 And now he's really excited.

01:06:36.840 I want those people to be American.

01:06:40.120 Yeah.

01:06:40.440 It's like a born-again Christian.

01:06:41.580 They remind me of born-again Christians, because they're the most excited about their faith.

01:06:46.180 Or somebody who, like, converts to a religion later in life.

01:06:50.020 Yeah.

01:06:50.240 Because they're the most excited about their faith.

01:06:52.000 They weren't born into it.

01:06:53.180 They don't take it for granted.

01:06:54.380 Right.

01:06:54.680 You know?

01:06:55.240 Non-smokers, alcoholics that are in recovery.

01:06:58.040 Yes.

01:06:58.860 Yes.

01:06:59.300 We've seen the other side.

01:07:00.620 Yeah.

01:07:00.960 Don't go there.

01:07:01.600 Yeah.

01:07:01.820 They know.

01:07:02.280 That's it.

01:07:02.660 They've lived it.

01:07:03.160 That's exactly right.

01:07:04.460 Yeah.

01:07:04.640 So what would wake up the suburban mob?

01:07:08.900 Let me ask you this way.

01:07:11.580 I think what's happening with the men and women is completely, I mean, I was going to 1.00

01:07:17.260 say natural, but that's not scientific anymore.

01:07:23.600 Guys are built to be just through, you know, our biology.

01:07:30.240 We are built to be the protector.

01:07:32.700 We are, we're geared to be the provider.

01:07:35.400 We're geared to be the one that's looking over the horizon.

01:07:38.160 Women are geared to be the nurturer. 1.00

01:07:41.720 This is not universally true, of course, of either sex, but they're meant to be the

01:07:45.900 nurturer.

01:07:46.440 They're the ones, guys, we would be burping, farting, and killing each other if we were

01:07:52.140 by ourselves.

01:07:53.900 And sometimes when you're with us.

01:07:55.420 Right.

01:07:56.340 Well, after a few years.

01:07:58.080 Right.

01:07:58.100 So, but there's that balance.

01:08:00.580 Okay.

01:08:01.860 So what's happening again is just to the extreme, the younger guys are all becoming much more

01:08:11.600 conservative.

01:08:12.880 And I think that's because they're seeing, no, there's trouble coming.

01:08:17.460 Yep.

01:08:17.760 And women, because there is trouble here that's on TV all the time now of suffering, they're 1.00

01:08:26.160 becoming more lefty.

01:08:28.680 Oh my God, it's terrifying.

01:08:30.240 It is.

01:08:31.040 Uh-huh.

01:08:31.900 But they're being ruled by the emotion of, we've got to help.

01:08:36.540 We've got to help.

01:08:37.300 Which is completely understandable.

01:08:39.360 Mm-hmm.

01:08:39.740 But the two sexes have been cut off from what they're really supposed to be. 0.99

01:08:46.800 Yep.

01:08:47.120 And so they're drifting further and further apart.

01:08:51.420 Yeah, it's interesting, especially because, you know, assuming that's the case, then men,

01:08:56.520 as they become more conservative, are attracted, they're less attractive to those women who are

01:09:03.500 becoming more liberal.

01:09:04.440 They want the soft, sensitive. 0.98

01:09:06.880 Man-lit soy boys. 0.73

01:09:07.660 Man-lit soy boys. 0.73

01:09:08.760 Exactly.

01:09:09.140 That's what they want.

01:09:09.740 And so this is like a genuine population concern.

01:09:14.280 Yeah, it's a concern.

01:09:15.180 Because how are they going to couple up if they're no longer, they're literally disattracted

01:09:19.740 to each other.

01:09:20.280 You know, it happens at the end of every empire, though.

01:09:22.980 Yeah, my gosh.

01:09:23.600 This exact same thing.

01:09:24.780 Okay, that's super depressing.

01:09:26.380 I know.

01:09:26.740 Roman Empire, men became women.

01:09:29.920 I mean, just.

01:09:31.480 Well, I mean, like, but where are the parents in this?

01:09:34.460 Because, you know, you have four kids.

01:09:36.180 Mm-hmm.

01:09:36.620 I, and I, I've got three.

01:09:39.440 I have two stepkids that are older, and then my 14-year-old.

01:09:42.880 And I will say, all of our kids, for the most part, so far, are conservative.

01:09:47.220 And we had a big hand in that.

01:09:49.540 Now, once they go off to college, then you're.

01:09:52.060 Doomed.

01:09:52.720 You're doomed.

01:09:53.680 Yeah, I had four.

01:09:54.240 In this day and age, you're doomed.

01:09:55.860 Yeah, I had four.

01:09:56.700 Had.

01:09:57.580 Yeah.

01:09:58.180 College, then.

01:09:58.880 Yeah, college.

01:09:59.700 This is the thing.

01:10:00.840 And that's, but, but that's, I guess that's part of it is parenting.

01:10:05.620 You've got to, like, you've got to expose them to as much as you can to teach them.

01:10:09.960 But I think you can, but once you're in.

01:10:11.980 To a point.

01:10:12.480 You know, we are such a society geared towards, well, he's the expert.

01:10:17.020 I don't know.

01:10:18.240 He's the expert.

01:10:19.940 So they come back, and you know how kids at that age think about their parents.

01:10:23.680 Right.

01:10:23.860 They don't think they know anything.

01:10:25.160 Well, yeah.

01:10:25.460 Well, he's the expert.

01:10:26.680 You're wrong about everything, mom and dad.

01:10:28.780 Yeah.

01:10:29.040 I think the, the thing is, where are the parents that are willing to say, no college?

01:10:34.740 No college.

01:10:35.480 I'm not paying for it.

01:10:36.880 Yeah.

01:10:37.740 Mm-hmm.

01:10:38.360 Which nowadays, it's becoming useless. 0.98

01:10:41.220 College is useless. 0.98

01:10:42.180 It's completely useless. 0.99

01:10:44.080 Yeah. 0.85

01:10:44.860 It's making you into a protester.

01:10:47.260 Right.

01:10:47.940 And there's only a few fields of study that you really need college.

01:10:53.140 And I don't, and I, they're very few and far between.

01:10:55.760 Like, if you want to become a doctor, maybe, or an engineer.

01:10:59.700 An engineer.

01:11:00.380 An engineer, which is, my daughter wants to be an engineer. 0.92

01:11:03.040 Or, you know, I can't even think of maybe a lawyer.

01:11:06.780 I don't know.

01:11:08.220 My son was.

01:11:08.900 Who wants to be a lawyer?

01:11:09.480 Does anybody want to know?

01:11:10.160 Yeah.

01:11:10.720 Do we need more of those?

01:11:11.800 I don't know.

01:11:12.360 My son was talking about something that was, like, way over my head recently.

01:11:17.620 I don't remember what it was.

01:11:18.780 And he's like, yeah, I just, I was just, you know, watching MIT online.

01:11:27.160 And he's watching a class.

01:11:28.580 You can audit.

01:11:29.700 Yes.

01:11:30.140 You can't get the grade.

01:11:31.420 But who cares if you have the certificate?

01:11:34.800 Exactly.

01:11:35.440 You just want the knowledge.

01:11:36.520 And I think a lot of these kids, too, are so caught up in, I want to go to an Ivy.

01:11:42.660 I want to do this.

01:11:43.460 It's impressive to have the name.

01:11:45.120 It's like, is it?

01:11:45.800 Not anymore.

01:11:46.660 Because not anymore.

01:11:47.240 Have you seen Harvard?

01:11:48.200 Have you seen MIT?

01:11:49.440 Have you seen, like, what some of these colleges are doing?

01:11:51.420 They're anti-Semitic growth. 0.92

01:11:54.740 Yeah.

01:11:54.960 Why would you want to be associated with that?

01:11:56.880 It's like we've all seen behind the curtain now.

01:11:58.940 Yes.

01:11:59.260 You know, as a result of, like, the hearings about the anti-Semitism.

01:12:03.060 Yeah.

01:12:03.420 Now people are really paying attention.

01:12:05.360 And the plagiarism, all of that stuff.

01:12:06.900 Yeah.

01:12:07.000 I think when they started going after the kids in school.

01:12:11.940 Yes.

01:12:12.660 That's, because that ticked off every mother. 0.99

01:12:16.200 Mm-hmm.

01:12:17.140 Except the most left.

01:12:18.500 Right.

01:12:18.960 Yep.

01:12:19.440 Not okay.

01:12:20.620 And the teachers that they're hiring anymore.

01:12:23.380 I mean, I get that there's a shortage.

01:12:25.680 Are you talking about K-12?

01:12:26.740 Are you talking about in college?

01:12:28.260 There's a shortage because they drove everyone else out.

01:12:31.620 Yes, during COVID.

01:12:32.200 They did this with the military.

01:12:34.020 Mm-hmm.

01:12:34.620 They did it with education.

01:12:37.340 Mm-hmm.

01:12:37.540 They're doing it in, they did it with medicine.

01:12:40.960 Yep.

01:12:41.680 That's scary.

01:12:42.360 You disagree, you're out.

01:12:43.980 Mm-hmm.

01:12:44.520 That's really scary.

01:12:46.160 Yeah.

01:12:46.220 Why do you think it's scary?

01:12:47.440 Well, because, I mean, we've talked about this ad nauseum, how when we go to a doctor,

01:12:52.100 we hope that they're our age or older, because then we have faith that they were trained as

01:12:58.420 medical doctors and not activists.

01:13:00.580 They were trained not to recognize, you know, they weren't trained to be woke.

01:13:03.660 And now it's a requirement.

01:13:05.880 That's the most important thing over any medical field of study.

01:13:09.380 And so I worry if I ever get into, you know, an emergency situation or a medical situation

01:13:14.100 and there's somebody that's in their 30s, I'm like, same with pilots.

01:13:17.980 You want every pilot to look like Captain Sully.

01:13:20.120 Everyone.

01:13:20.460 And if they don't, then you're now hearing about, I don't even remember which airline.

01:13:24.740 Was it, was it, I don't even remember. 0.98

01:13:26.220 I can't keep track because they all suck now. 0.98

01:13:27.740 Right. 0.98

01:13:28.020 They're all talking about the DEI requirements.

01:13:30.240 Doesn't it seem like.

01:13:31.060 And the wings are falling off and like.

01:13:33.480 Well, that's because Boeing went woke.

01:13:36.080 Exactly.

01:13:36.700 They went woke and they fired all of the real good engineers.

01:13:41.360 I grew up around Boeing.

01:13:42.460 My family used to work for Boeing.

01:13:44.180 Yeah.

01:13:44.460 And that was a great engineering company.

01:13:48.320 My, my uncle who used to do inspections for Boeing, he said, don't ever fly a plane.

01:13:54.080 That's not Boeing.

01:13:55.580 He said, I, I, I watch and I know what others build and I watch every screw.

01:14:02.340 I'm looking at those planes.

01:14:04.140 There's so many things that can go wrong with them.

01:14:06.360 Oh my gosh.

01:14:06.980 Don't fly anything but a Boeing.

01:14:08.260 So I have a, I was raised on that.

01:14:10.280 Now I get onto a plane and I look, is that a Boeing?

01:14:13.420 Cause I don't, I don't feel comfortable on a Boeing.

01:14:16.240 And they're so open about their desire to hire based on skin color or, you know what I mean?

01:14:22.820 They're, they're being so open and brazen about it that that's terrifying.

01:14:26.480 Well, what was the, I think it was United Airlines.

01:14:28.780 The drag queen. 0.60

01:14:29.640 Yeah. 0.94

01:14:29.820 The CEO.

01:14:30.620 Yeah.

01:14:30.980 What the?

01:14:31.600 Yeah.

01:14:32.040 I mean, that's super important though, Glenn.

01:14:34.560 Not really.

01:14:35.700 I mean, he's got to show everybody that he can dance.

01:14:38.000 I want the same number of takeoffs as there are landings.

01:14:42.600 Okay.

01:14:43.160 Or landings as there are.

01:14:44.240 You're not interested in his dancing skills?

01:14:45.820 Come on.

01:14:46.380 I'm really, no.

01:14:47.540 You're not interested.

01:14:47.920 I mean, that's terrifying.

01:14:48.980 And then add to that, the fact that now, you know, kids that are coming up through the

01:14:53.720 ranks to be in the, if they're blue collar workers, they're working, you know, they're

01:14:59.520 waving the planes in, for example, or they're mechanics or whatever.

01:15:03.120 Now it seems like this new, this Gen Z generation, there is not the same level of work ethic or 1.00

01:15:10.640 pride in work.

01:15:11.780 No.

01:15:12.340 And so you think about like, who are the people that are putting together the planes?

01:15:16.320 Right.

01:15:16.580 It's every aspect of our lives.

01:15:18.720 I worry that is, there's just people don't care about their jobs anymore.

01:15:22.940 You see it in the service industry all the time.

01:15:24.640 Right.

01:15:25.140 And so you go to, you go to a fast food restaurant now and you're just, you know, in the drive

01:15:29.860 through, if you're treated right, it's somebody who should have been retired.

01:15:34.120 Yes.

01:15:35.000 Yes.

01:15:35.440 And the rest of them are like, I'm sorry to bother you.

01:15:39.060 I know you're on your phone or listening to music, but could I get a hamburger?

01:15:44.680 Yeah.

01:15:45.040 Oh my gosh.

01:15:45.740 And then the videos we've seen, we've made fun of videos of some of these Gen Zers complaining 1.00

01:15:50.120 about, I had to work 40 hours.

01:15:52.420 I know.

01:15:53.280 I have to be to work at mine.

01:15:55.780 Can you believe that?

01:15:56.700 I mean, I can't believe I've worked 40 hours.

01:15:58.920 It's like, are you kidding me?

01:16:00.200 Like we worked like three jobs at once and like had to eat ramen noodles for 10 years.

01:16:05.200 And it's insane.

01:16:07.480 I just, what do you, how, how do you combat that?

01:16:10.800 Yeah.

01:16:10.960 How do you get that back?

01:16:12.140 That like the work ethic, that spirit of wanting to contribute.

01:16:15.840 And wanting to, it's not even forcing them to do it, but we wanted to do it.

01:16:20.680 You, you wanted to do that because you wanted to have something at the end of the day that

01:16:23.640 you could call yours.

01:16:25.380 It doesn't matter anymore.

01:16:26.520 There was a, there was an article that I read back in the nineties or maybe right after

01:16:31.960 2000.

01:16:33.260 And it was about the coming, uh, movement of non-ownership, all rental, you know, you're,

01:16:42.900 you don't own anything all the way to your clothes.

01:16:45.640 And it was a philosophical article and it said, what happens to a civilization that was

01:16:54.880 built on ownership, pride of ownership.

01:16:58.660 Yes.

01:16:59.360 And I want to take care of it because it's mine.

01:17:02.700 What happens to that society?

01:17:04.840 And I think we're seeing what happens to that.

01:17:06.320 That's exactly, RFK Jr.

01:17:07.500 was just talking about that.

01:17:08.760 Really?

01:17:08.980 He was talking about how hard it is for, um, you know, 20 somethings at this point to

01:17:13.940 even think about having their own home at one point and how it's, if he becomes president,

01:17:19.100 one of his missions is to make it possible for people to finance homes easier.

01:17:24.140 However, he plans to do that, whatever.

01:17:26.220 But he made that exact point that when people can own homes, they care not just about their

01:17:30.680 homes, but their communities and their neighborhoods and what those look like and who moves in.

01:17:35.320 And it matters to people so much more than when you're just renting and you're just

01:17:39.360 filling up a space temporarily.

01:17:42.180 It's a big deal.

01:17:43.360 That guy's going to be the dark horse, I think.

01:17:45.360 He's going to screw some stuff up.

01:17:46.740 He's going to screw some stuff up.

01:17:47.280 Oh, he's going to screw some stuff up.

01:17:48.680 Yeah, because I hate to say it, but a lot of stuff that he says I do like, even though

01:17:52.600 I know that he is, he's truly a liberal.

01:17:55.280 I mean, I don't.

01:17:55.560 Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

01:17:56.660 He's not a liberal.

01:17:58.020 He's like hardcore left on some things.

01:18:02.780 Right.

01:18:03.180 Like the environment.

01:18:04.180 I had him on CNN and my producer just reminded me of this because I said he at one point

01:18:10.780 called for my death.

01:18:12.800 Are you serious? 0.97

01:18:13.780 Oh, called for my execution.

01:18:15.800 What?

01:18:16.440 I was a climate denier.

01:18:18.680 Called for my execution.

01:18:19.920 Get out.

01:18:19.980 Well, so am I.

01:18:20.980 Yeah, I know.

01:18:22.120 But I'm not.

01:18:23.240 I believe climate is always changing.

01:18:24.780 Well, exactly.

01:18:25.720 That's a thing.

01:18:26.460 So, but he called and my producer said, Glenn, he didn't say that.

01:18:32.080 He didn't just say that someplace.

01:18:34.180 He said it to your face on your show.

01:18:38.120 And I had completely forgotten.

01:18:39.960 And you did it real?

01:18:40.700 Oh, my gosh.

01:18:41.320 Yeah.

01:18:41.420 Because I remember I was like, wait.

01:18:42.780 When was it?

01:18:43.840 When?

01:18:46.640 2005, six, somewhere in that area.

01:18:48.740 Oh, my gosh.

01:18:49.960 Yeah.

01:18:50.240 And he had no, like, what was he doing then?

01:18:53.140 Just being a Kennedy.

01:18:54.240 He was just being a Kennedy.

01:18:55.240 He was just, like, living off the Kennedy fortune.

01:18:57.000 Yeah, I don't know what.

01:18:57.980 He was just being rich.

01:18:58.260 I don't know what any Kennedy does.

01:18:59.600 He was in Hyannis Port, just living off the fortune.

01:19:02.620 Yes.

01:19:03.360 That must be nice.

01:19:04.560 Yes.

01:19:04.740 Wow.

01:19:04.920 So, he's like, because I have a really hard time.

01:19:08.080 A guy who called for my death.

01:19:10.240 I would have a hard time. 0.98

01:19:11.160 To your face.

01:19:11.800 And to my face.

01:19:12.580 And I like some of the stuff he says.

01:19:15.400 Right.

01:19:15.800 You know what I'm like?

01:19:16.520 This is the thing.

01:19:17.140 I like that.

01:19:18.420 I have to remember.

01:19:19.620 You wanted me to die. 1.00

01:19:20.280 He wanted me to execute you. 0.99

01:19:21.360 I feel like there's a little conflict there. 0.97

01:19:23.720 Right.

01:19:24.040 Yeah.

01:19:24.440 Might not be in my best interest to campaign for it.

01:19:27.460 Exactly.

01:19:28.100 And you don't think he's softened on any of those positions at all?

01:19:31.320 Like, 2A.

01:19:32.380 He's said.

01:19:33.400 He seems softer.

01:19:34.680 2A's a little weird with him, too.

01:19:36.560 I mean, he's said some stuff about 2A in the past, and then I don't know where he stands

01:19:40.460 on that now.

01:19:41.260 I don't think he's changed.

01:19:42.580 I think he has seen the moment of opportunity, and he is de-emphasizing.

01:19:48.100 Yeah.

01:19:48.820 You know what I mean?

01:19:49.500 So, he's a politician.

01:19:50.380 Who do you think he's going to take more votes from?

01:19:54.560 Well, in women. 1.00

01:19:56.500 Just across the board.

01:19:57.800 But I think women who see the insanity, they'll look at Trump, they'll look at Biden, and they'll

01:20:05.880 look at RFK, and they'll go, RFK.

01:20:08.300 Yeah. 0.65

01:20:08.580 Because he's like a jacked up kangaroo.

01:20:10.820 That's what he looks like.

01:20:12.300 You know?

01:20:13.020 Is he not? 0.97

01:20:13.880 He is a jacked up kangaroo. 0.95

01:20:15.240 Yeah. 0.68

01:20:15.440 And he picks up snakes.

01:20:16.620 He does.

01:20:16.960 It's kind of hot.

01:20:17.280 And he just is in the foot.

01:20:18.140 It is kind of hot to some women. 1.00

01:20:21.080 Poor shorts.

01:20:22.620 You know, we come full circle.

01:20:24.800 Yeah.

01:20:26.060 But who do you think they'll pull from?

01:20:28.820 I, you know, I used to think it would be Trump.

01:20:32.420 I would see.

01:20:32.880 Me too.

01:20:33.220 And now it seems like most of the more recent polls are showing that he's pulling from both.

01:20:37.860 But I don't believe polls.

01:20:38.800 No.

01:20:39.140 I don't believe polls, though.

01:20:40.720 Right.

01:20:41.620 I don't.

01:20:42.140 It's all...

01:20:43.100 Look at that.

01:20:43.760 You're so cute.

01:20:44.680 You're like, oh yeah, that implies you believe in something.

01:20:47.920 I know.

01:20:48.320 I'm a non-conformist.

01:20:51.180 I refuse to believe in the polls.

01:20:53.080 I just don't.

01:20:53.660 I don't want to believe them because they've let me down in the past.

01:20:58.120 I can't believe in the polls.

01:20:58.640 Well, I think that's because nobody trusts each other anymore.

01:21:00.760 I'm not going to tell you what I think.

01:21:02.080 Right.

01:21:02.600 And nobody has that.

01:21:03.440 And no one's ever asked me.

01:21:05.060 Yeah.

01:21:05.220 I've never participated in a poll.

01:21:07.140 So where are these polls?

01:21:09.140 Where are they?

01:21:10.100 How do you get on that list?

01:21:10.860 It's a cloud.

01:21:11.520 No one understands it.

01:21:14.280 Don't understand it.

01:21:16.160 It's going to be interesting, though.

01:21:17.200 He's going to shake some things up.

01:21:18.500 He's going to screw some things up.

01:21:20.020 And then isn't there a...

01:21:21.220 If Nikki does this whole no labels thing... 1.00

01:21:24.000 She's already said she won't.

01:21:24.880 She's not doing it.

01:21:25.640 She won't.

01:21:26.040 She's done.

01:21:26.540 How do you feel about Nikki Haley?

01:21:28.020 I mean, she's a woman, so women must like her. 1.00

01:21:30.480 Well, actually, we did.

01:21:31.900 Glenn, we liked her.

01:21:33.400 We've interviewed her, and I liked her.

01:21:36.140 Back on our radio days, she would come on.

01:21:38.220 Remember, she stumped for the governor of Indiana,

01:21:40.040 who proved to be a huge disappointment.

01:21:43.000 Yeah.

01:21:44.060 So that was good for her record.

01:21:48.060 I like her, too.

01:21:49.100 I think she's...

01:21:49.880 As a person.

01:21:50.260 As a person, she's great.

01:21:51.200 As a person.

01:21:51.600 She's lovely as a person,

01:21:52.840 but I kind of wish she would have dropped out

01:21:54.720 a little bit earlier than she did.

01:21:56.220 And I get why she's staying in,

01:21:57.920 because she sees that...

01:21:59.880 There could be trouble.

01:22:00.660 There could be trouble,

01:22:01.440 and so much of the country

01:22:02.820 just does not want this rematch,

01:22:04.780 and so she's holding out hope

01:22:06.840 that she can reach those people

01:22:08.620 in some of these,

01:22:09.440 maybe these Super Tuesday states.

01:22:11.000 I have no idea.

01:22:11.820 She's a little too... 0.99

01:22:12.360 She's not going to, though.

01:22:13.560 No.

01:22:13.820 She's not.

01:22:14.600 She's... 1.00

01:22:15.320 I know.

01:22:15.700 She is more... 0.96

01:22:17.020 The way she's positioned herself,

01:22:18.860 she's more Mitch McConnell.

01:22:20.940 Yes.

01:22:21.680 And we don't need that.

01:22:22.900 Very warmongery.

01:22:23.540 That is over.

01:22:24.640 That's over.

01:22:25.260 Very war-y.

01:22:26.440 And that is not...

01:22:27.880 Yeah.

01:22:28.020 She's very,

01:22:28.600 yay, Ukraine, let's...

01:22:29.800 You know, and I just...

01:22:30.940 No.

01:22:32.380 But I am surprised,

01:22:34.160 I will say,

01:22:34.860 that whenever she comes up

01:22:36.800 in our daily show,

01:22:38.340 whether we're just playing

01:22:39.800 a soundbite from her

01:22:40.720 or talking about her

01:22:42.100 for whatever reason,

01:22:43.520 the hatred that our audience

01:22:45.780 has for her

01:22:46.660 is, like, off the charts.

01:22:47.860 Yes.

01:22:48.320 It's nuts.

01:22:49.060 Yeah, they do not like her.

01:22:50.580 And it's not warranted.

01:22:51.020 I mean, it's just over the top.

01:22:52.560 It's a little...

01:22:53.140 It is a little over the top.

01:22:54.260 Like, calm down, everybody.

01:22:55.460 Yeah.

01:22:55.800 But wait,

01:22:56.360 is it because...

01:22:57.800 Every four years

01:22:59.320 we go through this.

01:23:00.120 Mm-hmm.

01:23:00.920 And I hate primary season.

01:23:05.060 Same.

01:23:05.520 It's brutal, isn't it?

01:23:06.620 Yeah, because the audience...

01:23:09.160 Yeah.

01:23:09.960 You know, oh my gosh,

01:23:11.340 the mail or the email

01:23:12.940 that I got

01:23:13.580 and the posts that I got,

01:23:15.160 you know,

01:23:16.480 Glenn's clearly for Trump

01:23:18.440 because of this.

01:23:19.440 Glenn's clearly for DeSantis

01:23:21.060 because of this.

01:23:22.000 He's clearly for Rabaswami.

01:23:24.260 Yeah.

01:23:24.400 And it's like,

01:23:24.860 guys, I'm doing my job

01:23:27.200 equally on all of them.

01:23:29.220 Yeah.

01:23:29.540 Yeah, we try to do

01:23:30.400 the same thing too.

01:23:31.080 Like, she actually did have a horse

01:23:32.660 and she was very open about that,

01:23:34.320 but I didn't.

01:23:35.460 But she likes guys in high heels.

01:23:36.860 She does like the guys in high heels.

01:23:38.900 And we've come full circle again.

01:23:42.500 Totally.

01:23:43.460 But I mean, we do.

01:23:44.280 We try to give all angles

01:23:45.400 and we are...

01:23:46.500 We will make fun of people too.

01:23:48.100 We will criticize everybody

01:23:50.040 and people don't like that either.

01:23:52.180 Oh, you can't criticize Trump

01:23:53.580 in our audience.

01:23:53.680 You can't criticize Trump.

01:23:54.600 You cannot.

01:23:54.940 People don't like that.

01:23:56.000 But I mean,

01:23:56.480 sometimes you gotta criticize the guy.

01:23:58.160 We criticize everybody.

01:23:59.240 He warrants quite a bit of criticism

01:24:01.360 from time to time.

01:24:01.600 I think that we all

01:24:02.380 should do that with each other.

01:24:03.260 We criticize ourselves.

01:24:05.100 That's what we do.

01:24:06.120 You should do that.

01:24:07.060 You should have some humility.

01:24:08.640 And that's probably...

01:24:09.220 I think one of the things

01:24:09.940 that's made me angriest

01:24:11.160 about the Trump loyalists

01:24:13.000 is this concept

01:24:14.020 that he has promoted

01:24:15.360 of loyalty to him.

01:24:18.200 I don't like that.

01:24:19.640 It really, really rubs me

01:24:20.880 the wrong way.

01:24:21.480 And I don't like 0.57

01:24:22.540 that he was so nasty

01:24:24.240 in his attacks

01:24:25.060 to the primary contenders,

01:24:26.860 especially DeSantis,

01:24:28.080 who has done more

01:24:30.020 for freedom

01:24:30.800 in this country

01:24:31.820 than so many other leaders have.

01:24:33.040 It's really weird.

01:24:34.140 He has...

01:24:34.800 Do you guys know him?

01:24:35.800 No.

01:24:36.080 No.

01:24:36.300 Trump?

01:24:36.660 No.

01:24:36.800 So he's a different man

01:24:39.300 in person.

01:24:40.380 He's a lot...

01:24:40.780 That's what we hear

01:24:41.360 all the time.

01:24:42.360 Yeah.

01:24:42.460 He's just a normal,

01:24:44.560 nice, really nice guy.

01:24:46.760 I believe that.

01:24:47.580 Yeah.

01:24:50.280 And it's weird

01:24:52.200 because he demands

01:24:54.400 such loyalty.

01:24:56.240 You say something against him,

01:24:58.960 you're on a list.

01:25:00.340 I'm done.

01:25:00.740 You're done.

01:25:01.600 I am on the list.

01:25:02.860 You're on the list, man.

01:25:03.780 For sure.

01:25:04.520 You're on it. 0.99

01:25:05.060 You're dead to him. 0.99

01:25:06.280 Just for the shorts. 0.98

01:25:09.700 However,

01:25:10.840 he can

01:25:11.840 rip people apart

01:25:14.400 and then turn around 0.92

01:25:16.140 and go,

01:25:16.640 you're the greatest.

01:25:17.840 Right.

01:25:18.360 You know what I mean?

01:25:19.180 It's like...

01:25:19.480 Ted Cruz, right?

01:25:20.560 Yeah.

01:25:20.860 His wife.

01:25:21.480 That's right.

01:25:22.280 He's a perfect example.

01:25:24.060 I think they killed

01:25:24.880 the Kennedys.

01:25:26.740 What?

01:25:28.720 Ted is the greatest.

01:25:30.660 We have always

01:25:31.860 had a great relationship.

01:25:32.600 Oh my God,

01:25:32.860 your impression.

01:25:33.960 He's so great.

01:25:35.440 I haven't mastered

01:25:36.340 that one yet.

01:25:37.200 I haven't had that one yet.

01:25:37.880 She does a good Bernie Sanders.

01:25:38.900 No, it's actually

01:25:39.440 not very good.

01:25:39.840 It's pretty good.

01:25:40.500 I like it.

01:25:40.700 Let's hear it.

01:25:41.900 What do you got to bring me?

01:25:43.220 I can't do it.

01:25:44.020 I can't do it.

01:25:44.600 I love it.

01:25:45.360 You horse shorts.

01:25:46.800 I know.

01:25:47.320 I know.

01:25:47.480 It's not as good.

01:25:48.540 I love it.

01:25:49.380 I love it.

01:25:49.780 She loves it,

01:25:50.440 but she's my best friend,

01:25:51.400 so she laughs at all my jokes,

01:25:53.260 which is why we're best friends.

01:25:55.040 That's why.

01:25:56.480 Can you guys come back?

01:25:57.540 Oh my gosh,

01:25:58.320 we would love to.

01:25:59.800 We're allowed?

01:26:00.840 Oh my gosh. 1.00

01:26:01.660 You are terrible. 0.96

01:26:02.020 So we didn't do anything 0.96

01:26:03.200 terribly wrong.

01:26:03.760 Oh, you did all the

01:26:04.480 terrible things.

01:26:04.940 I mean, I said some things.

01:26:05.640 Well, we've been going at it

01:26:07.220 for over an hour,

01:26:08.020 and the podcast will probably

01:26:09.920 end up being about 12 minutes.

01:26:11.740 Really?

01:26:12.340 No, I'm kidding.

01:26:13.680 Please just cut out 1.00

01:26:14.820 the gay and retarded thing. 0.99

01:26:15.860 Yeah, no. 0.99

01:26:16.520 Just leave that part out.

01:26:17.640 Unfortunately,

01:26:18.220 we never make edits, so.

01:26:20.080 Totally out.

01:26:20.960 You got to live with that, girl. 0.99

01:26:22.980 We're done.

01:26:24.420 Thank you so much

01:26:25.440 for having us.

01:26:26.620 Thank you.

01:26:27.120 Likewise.

01:26:27.240 Yes, thank you.

01:26:28.280 Just a reminder,

01:26:34.820 I'd love you to rate

01:26:36.240 and subscribe to the podcast

01:26:37.540 and pass this on to a friend

01:26:39.020 so it can be discovered

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01:26:40.640 We'll see you next time.

The Glenn Beck Program - March 09, 2024

Ep 212 ｜ What Do GOP Women REALLY Want？｜ Chicks on the Right ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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The Glenn Beck Program - March 09, 2024

Ep 212 ｜ What Do GOP Women REALLY Want？ ｜ Chicks on the Right ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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Ep 212 ｜ What Do GOP Women REALLY Want？｜ Chicks on the Right ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast