The Glenn Beck Program - March 30, 2024


Ep 215 | African Entrepreneur SLAMS 'Do-Good' Snobs Making Poverty Worse | The Glenn Beck Podcast


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 8 minutes

Words per Minute

178.97711

Word Count

12,248

Sentence Count

15

Misogynist Sentences

12

Hate Speech Sentences

38


Summary

In this episode, entrepreneur and prosperity activist Magot Waje Wade shares his story of growing up in a broken family and how he overcame the trauma of being left behind by his African immigrant parents to become a successful entrepreneur and entrepreneur.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 and now a blaze media podcast a few years ago my next guest sat down with dr jordan peterson
00:00:08.040 and finally gave a good answer to the question do black lives actually matter i don't mean in
00:00:14.740 the virtue signaling sort of way you know everybody post a black square of facebook and
00:00:19.720 instagram yeah that's not uh i mean do they really matter do we actually care by 2050 25
00:00:28.100 percent of the world's population will be african that's a lot of black lives we should care about
00:00:34.120 but instead most philanthropists avoid the solution that could actually lift africa out of poverty
00:00:41.040 capitalism no more toxic foreign aid even bono gets this now no more raising money off of pictures of
00:00:49.680 helplessly poor africans no matter what the socialists say the most effective way to end poverty
00:00:57.320 is to free the market my next guest today has a plan to make that happen please welcome amazing
00:01:05.500 entrepreneur and prosperity activist magot wade you imagine the number of african americans that have
00:01:16.580 died um because of because of abortion we have a spiritual and moral mandate as citizens of this
00:01:26.320 country and as christians that mandate is to bring about profound change when it comes to abortion
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00:02:39.480 life and death preborn.com slash glenn hello my god how are you hello glenn i'm very well thank you
00:03:00.280 thanks for having me good i uh i feel like i could be a brother from another mother you have i mean
00:03:08.900 everything i read uh from you i'm like yes and i have a feeling a lot of people who have never heard
00:03:16.540 you before are going to feel exactly the same way that we are i don't know maybe it's just that you're
00:03:22.600 speaking common sense so clearly and you just don't hear it very often anymore so i'm excited for this
00:03:28.800 conversation thank you likewise um so let's let's start with uh well let's start with
00:03:38.600 who you are and where you came from you were born in senegal right yes i was born in senegal the west
00:03:45.240 coast of africa and the way i like to tell my story really is um from the standpoint of my um
00:03:52.360 evolutionary intellectual journey because i think it's very important so the best way to to to try and
00:04:00.900 follow the journey is yes i was born in senegal west coast of africa and then right around age two
00:04:05.780 my parents made the hard decision that so many african parents before them had to make and so
00:04:11.780 many african parents since them continue making which is take this painful decision to leave their
00:04:17.820 child behind in this case they left me behind um why so to provide for a better life for me they just
00:04:24.180 decided that in order to provide for a better life for me they had to separate from me um many families
00:04:30.220 try to do the journey together right they take they try to take their children together with them
00:04:34.540 but my parents said you know she's too young and we don't know what's gonna what's waiting for us
00:04:38.860 on the other side so um better leave her alone with uh our their parents in this case my grandma
00:04:44.440 and um eventually they left and um you know you might say oh a couple years is not much but um you
00:04:51.820 know i think stuff like that you it follows you right in in bizarre ways oh yeah but but my parents
00:04:57.100 did what they had to do they they did what they had to do i'm not mad at them at all if anything
00:05:00.700 i'm very grateful you know for the journey that they decided to take so they left me behind with
00:05:04.960 my grandma and uh moved to europe back then um first they arrived in france but then eventually
00:05:11.780 later on they moved to germany and by the time they decided that the immigration journey had worked
00:05:17.400 they were still in germany and that's when they called for me so right around age seven or so
00:05:22.000 um i was called to go be reunited with them and there i had to go through the second major
00:05:28.860 separation of my life because this time now i have to leave grandma behind and so that's a whole
00:05:34.080 other you know level of um of um you know like um trauma again but anyway um moved left uh grandma
00:05:41.680 behind and grandma was very clear with me because she said baby you're gonna be going to this place
00:05:47.320 where almost no one is going to look like you and they won't speak the same language as you do
00:05:52.400 and there the children have been going they go to school not something that you've been doing because
00:05:57.560 i was very much a free rent child as i like to say anyway so but grandma said something very important
00:06:03.740 right after that and she said she said although most of them will not look like you because many of
00:06:10.460 them are going to have this white skin and you have this black skin she said it is still it is still
00:06:15.480 human skin human they're human you're human that's all that matters and then she said and that language
00:06:21.000 they speak it's still a human language so if they can speak it you being a human you surely will be
00:06:27.100 able to speak it and um going to school is what little humans do you're a little human you'll be just
00:06:32.440 fine and she said you can you can be you know she said you can be impressed with some of this
00:06:37.280 but um under nerve circumstances can you be um intimidated by it and my grandma was very
00:06:43.860 intentional with her words very she would always choose them very carefully and so sure enough i go
00:06:49.280 to germany you know very curious pairs of eyes looking at me you know the kids are like what is
00:06:56.060 this person and i'm looking at them who are you you know it was very fun but you know and so right
00:07:01.840 there you know your little girl and everything grandma said was true she said she predicted so for
00:07:06.300 me she had predicted all of these things you have to understand right so that's how i see it
00:07:09.180 and i'm like surely the next thing grandma said is going to be true as well so i will be fine i will
00:07:15.100 learn german and i will learn and eventually within six months i was speaking a flawless german i was
00:07:21.380 one of the best the best student in my class and then quickly i caught up on um i caught up on the
00:07:26.880 classes that i missed out on from back home and it was so fantastic right and so anyway so that's how
00:07:32.620 it started but but beyond that when i first arrived in germany glenn i looked around and the only
00:07:40.120 question that could come to my to the little girl's mind that i was was how come they have this and we
00:07:47.620 don't and literally all i was speaking about in that case what really triggered that in my mind was
00:07:53.100 how come back home when grandma says my god it's time for your shower from the moment she says that and
00:07:59.060 things start getting into motion and the moment where the water actually touches my skin 45 minutes
00:08:05.620 to an hour can go by why because grandma has to has to get a um uh the charcoal oven going literally
00:08:14.280 meaning like like when you're at camping and you're not cheating with that uh with a chimney right
00:08:20.160 you put the charcoal in there you put them you know put the matches in there and then you start
00:08:26.020 fanning it as much as you can so that it catches on and once it does you put a pot of water on it
00:08:32.520 so to for it to boil once it boils you bring in a bigger bucket put it into that bigger bucket the
00:08:39.180 water add colder water to it to make the temperature safer then somebody stronger than grandma would drag
00:08:45.100 it to the shower area and there at last i can finally take my shower some 45 minutes after it was
00:08:52.860 decided that i was going to take a shower but here in germany mom says my god it's time for your
00:08:58.000 shower i'm like where is the bucket of warm water especially in this cold weather no way i'm getting
00:09:02.860 naked in here and so mom would say she would say come on you silly just jump in the shower so i go in
00:09:09.400 there turn the knobs water is coming down temperatures that i want i'm like wow it was really literally that
00:09:16.320 it was just like and then i was like how come they have this and we don't and then it was about
00:09:20.420 everything it was about it was about the paved roads compared to the unpaved roads back home
00:09:24.300 always coming home having ashy feet from the dust and everything always having to wash your feet
00:09:28.320 and then you go to these grocery stores you have these beautiful displays of all types of foods and
00:09:33.840 and products and you know it's all climatized in the air ac in the summer and uh you know heat in the
00:09:41.140 winter and and i think the little girl was just saying this ease of life first of all was it possible
00:09:47.740 and and if it is how come how come they have this and we don't and that literally became the defining
00:09:55.020 question of my life i had to know and you know how kids can be before we get in wait wait before we
00:10:02.260 get into what you learned because i this is where i just i just love your outlook um you when did you
00:10:10.820 move to america from germany yes so first when we um so from germany a couple years into germany
00:10:16.840 my parents decided we're going to stay in we're going to stay in europe so we moved to france
00:10:21.020 so we went to france and france is where i was primarily educated and after business school in
00:10:26.080 france i decided that france would be too small for my ambitions because you know when you grow up in
00:10:31.140 france this is why you know when people complain about america complaining about oh you know black
00:10:36.000 people this black people that can't do this can't do this in america i'm like i knew one thing for sure
00:10:41.200 in france in france someone like me with my background there is no way in the world in my
00:10:48.600 wildest dreams ever that i could have achieved what i've achieved in the u.s back in france
00:10:54.280 wow i've never heard that about france why is that because in france couple of things um when you are
00:11:01.020 a um from the immigration and that's by the way how they talk about you you are from the from the
00:11:06.400 immigration and um they would say so when you're applying for a job first of all
00:11:13.060 your photo is in there your address is in there your age is in there and your address alone forget
00:11:22.400 even your face which right away sends a signal but then your address alone tells them where you live
00:11:28.220 and insofar as most people uh from the immigration because that's how they talk about us
00:11:33.440 live in these ghettos that there is no other way to call it la banlieue you know la banlieue
00:11:39.380 it's pretty much ghettos where a lot of the people from the immigration are parked in because if you
00:11:45.680 try to move if you try to live in a different neighborhood there is going to be a strong bias
00:11:51.100 against even your application being taken into account simply because of your skin color so you see how
00:11:57.240 everything everything you know follows each other uh you can't live in such neighborhood so you have to
00:12:02.620 go to the neighborhood where we're allowed but if you come from a neighborhood like that it's
00:12:06.500 probably going to infringe on your ability to get this job or that job and on top of that even if
00:12:12.560 you're french what they call francais de souche meaning for them you know white uh judo christian
00:12:19.620 background that's what for many french people being french means um even if you're that then the
00:12:26.440 class system kicks in france the the um the uh social ladder does not work very well it is it is
00:12:33.560 very stuck and so you have very different types of classes where um and they don't you it's really
00:12:40.280 hard to start from this one and move to the next one and to this day i even see you know i grew up
00:12:45.740 example actually just one more thing i i grew up you know like um tv anchors like you for example well
00:12:51.920 guess what it's almost like if it was you during my time uh but now some 25 years later you're still
00:13:01.180 there if you're still alive but then most importantly it's your offsprings that are on tv you see the
00:13:06.680 meritocracy where is the meritocracy in this and and go and then go go there stay with me even think
00:13:13.840 about the top french companies today what are they i mean what is lvmh it's you know what is lvmh
00:13:21.420 it's these brands and companies that were started many years ago and family member of the family
00:13:26.820 member they're keeping it don't take me wrong i am very happy when the brand when a company was built
00:13:31.220 and your offspring get to benefit from it but what i'm saying is even at that level it's very hard to
00:13:37.440 see brand new companies that are today big big big companies so anyway you see how um the social
00:13:44.460 ladder seems to be stuck so for many in so in my case i would have a double jeopardy as they would
00:13:50.700 call it it's one being uh from the immigration and the other one you're just in a society where
00:13:56.460 the class the class uh the social uh ladder and elevator just doesn't work doesn't work so of course
00:14:02.820 it it is so amazing because growing up here we've always heard how enlightened and how we should
00:14:09.240 be more like france um and uh and as we have in some ways recently become more like france um it's
00:14:19.100 destroying everything that america is so you go over from france to america and what's your what was
00:14:26.100 your hope and then what did you find oh my hope when i my hope was i look i i believed and i still
00:14:35.180 believe in the american dream because when you're in france growing up whether you're in france or
00:14:39.800 parts of africa america really is the it's the top destination even today you ask many young french
00:14:48.780 people as a matter of fact many young europeans their dreams are still american dreams this they
00:14:56.080 if you ask them anywhere they would like to go for the most part you will have some answers about
00:15:00.520 some place in america they want to come to so the movie sold us america why what is what is the is it
00:15:06.400 is it the palm trees and the sunshine of california yes uh or is it something else what what is it it's
00:15:13.280 all of it it's and i would pinpoint to one word the freedom you sense it you know when you're in
00:15:20.700 france and you're watching beverly hills 90210 whatever the zip code number was yeah 9012
00:15:26.820 whatever the zip code was um but you know you for us imagine you're like this young kid you're like
00:15:33.220 16 or 17 and you're watching your counterpart 16 or 17 and they can drive and they can take themselves
00:15:38.720 pretty much anywhere they can have these jobs um it was just uh i think the abundance and most
00:15:45.500 importantly the sense of freedom at least for me that's what made it the abundance and the sense
00:15:50.320 of freedom that i was feeling from anything related to americans all the way to how americans speak
00:15:55.420 and there's something that just feels very free you know in the tonality of it because you have to
00:16:01.020 understand i learned british not american i only learned in when i came to america that i did not
00:16:06.940 learn american i learned british so even between those two languages there is a sense of freedom going
00:16:12.340 from one to the other so i think um that sense of freedom is is really very much what is the driver
00:16:19.120 and this sense of anything is possible anything you're possible your background will won't stop you
00:16:24.920 um your agenda won't stop you nothing will stop you literally and these stories of people who came in
00:16:31.560 and they were dish doing dishwashing in the restaurants and all of a sudden next thing you know they have a
00:16:35.680 chain of restaurants it's just like are you kidding me this doesn't happen in many other places it just
00:16:40.120 doesn't so you found that those stories were true yeah do you still feel that way i still feel that way
00:16:49.820 i still feel that way even with all of america's problem now does it mean that i am not worried
00:16:56.600 that this country is um is am i worried but this country is
00:17:07.800 losing you know what hang on hold that thought because i want to go now back to the problems that
00:17:17.260 you found that as a kid you realize now why you didn't have all those things and then we'll come
00:17:24.380 back to that question about america because i think people will understand your perspective on
00:17:30.360 what you're finding about america today yeah uh after we go through what you found so yeah why why don't
00:17:37.480 they have those things yes yes in africa yeah so the the so then from um the little girl's question
00:17:44.960 of how come they have how come they have this and how come we don't the question eventually evolved
00:17:50.440 with uh time okay and what the question became the question became much more precise and it became
00:17:58.880 how come some countries like mine are poor while others like the u.s new zealand singapore
00:18:05.120 those countries are rich why and along the journey i've heard so many things uh glenn as to why that
00:18:13.320 was the case uh chief among colonialism well it's this is what this is this is a funny part glenn if
00:18:20.460 uh i like to i like to use this because i will say people you can you can take a hundred people a
00:18:25.340 hundred uh african people and line them up over here and take a hundred african people and line them
00:18:29.580 up a non-african people and line them up over here ask them why is africa still the poorest region
00:18:37.380 in the world africans and their so-called allies will come with their usual suspects are going to be
00:18:42.940 oh uh colonialism slavery racism they're stealing the natural resources and all of that and then
00:18:55.300 non-africans who don't even seem to care much they will come up with uh those guys low iq
00:19:04.380 lazy always fighting each other um they come up with that and and both sides would both can i take
00:19:13.240 and both sides would also say oh yeah and they're all corrupt and they have corrupt leaders bad
00:19:20.080 governance and corrupt leaders you will hear all of that that's what those are your suspects keep that
00:19:26.480 in mind now let's go back why you were poor why some countries are poor some countries are rich
00:19:30.780 so i've heard all of those usual suspects as to why we were poor all of those from both sides okay i hear
00:19:37.320 that and then it makes no sense most of this makes makes no sense because why because i'm looking around
00:19:44.260 and thinking if any of this stuff was true how come my parents the same people the minute they leave
00:19:51.600 senegal and they come in this case to you know france or despite everything i said about france they come
00:19:58.640 to france they go to europe they get to self-actualize how come how come so i'm starting
00:20:04.720 to think this has nothing to do with this the human being in this case but the only variable in this
00:20:10.520 equation you just told me is the place that these people happen to be in or not so now i'm interested
00:20:16.720 what's up with these places what's up with them and then at first of course i'm thinking of course it's
00:20:23.060 because here they're rich of course it's going to happen and here they're poor that's why it's not
00:20:26.740 going to happen but meanwhile guess what god is so good this way god is so good this way because
00:20:31.900 you have to understand at some point in my life glenn through all of this through these years
00:20:37.120 um for eventually i made it to the u.s after business school like i told you and i started out as a head
00:20:43.800 hunter in finance in silicon valley in the heydays of a datcom boom you know working finding talent for
00:20:49.960 google before google was a household name brand they had only one building and even within that building
00:20:55.980 it was just like one you know like i think a few offices same with netflix same with netflix getting
00:21:02.060 lost so many times going to the netflix offices because they were so tiny no one knew what these
00:21:06.260 things would become so when i tell you that i've seen it close i've seen it close so anyway so so
00:21:12.040 doing extremely well for myself extremely well for myself um glenn buying a home in one of the most
00:21:18.720 expensive zip codes in america los altos hills so you cannot tell me that the american dream does not
00:21:24.120 exist little gal my god could never have made it in under any other circumstances i am sorry and i
00:21:29.660 stand by my words so anyway so this is all happening and eventually doing extremely well for myself and
00:21:36.500 one day driving down big sir so happy so excited feeling such a sense of uh you know just achievement
00:21:45.220 and all the gratitude that i was feeling for everybody who helped me on the journey any all the way from
00:21:52.000 my grandma back home who no longer was with us to all these americans that have come my way to my french
00:21:57.840 teachers to everybody that has come along the way because it takes it takes a village to make a person
00:22:03.540 so thanking all of these people for all of these opportunities and my everything and eventually all
00:22:09.180 of a sudden my mood turned dark as it would always do glenn when i felt that way
00:22:13.260 what what has been my lot and when i tell people i am literally haunted
00:22:19.280 it's because when you grow up with stories of people like you packing themselves into little
00:22:27.120 little fishermen's boats to make the journey to another country so that they can help those of
00:22:33.860 their families stay staying back home with a better life economic better life so but many of them
00:22:39.820 don't make it because the boat tips over and they're at the bottom of the ocean right now
00:22:45.280 serving as fish food when you grow up with stories like that and these are not strangers these are
00:22:50.640 friends these are friends of friends these are family friends these are family and it's happening all
00:22:56.240 the time to this day and actually it's accelerating that phenomenon and when people don't do that they
00:23:01.820 get into planes trying to make it you know to europe somewhere above england a body drops because
00:23:06.680 somebody thought it would be a good idea to to hide into the landing gears of a plane or you open the
00:23:12.540 cargo section of a plane and there's a frozen body because somebody thought it would be a good idea to
00:23:16.600 hide there but they didn't know the temperature goes so down up there and you die and when when they say
00:23:22.060 those routes are too dangerous and they say they let's go land route when they go land route what
00:23:26.520 happens to them they get stuck in libya where today glenn when that happens to someone like me
00:23:33.540 you get sold literally as a slave yeah and your cost is between 300 and 500 dollars it took for
00:23:39.800 cnn to to do a piece on it for the rest of the world to finally believe us and so would you not be
00:23:45.940 haunted if like me these were the stories that you grew up with your whole entire life every single
00:23:52.660 month there is one of those coming up okay so as soon as you would be in this mood of happiness
00:23:58.440 this is what would happen the minute i was in such a a state of elation that's the next second i would
00:24:07.300 be reminded of this and then of course it's like it's like having a form of depression almost right on
00:24:15.060 the spot but that day as i was driving down big sur something happened that never happened before
00:24:21.560 i think at that moment glenn um basically my body started to jerk around to so much that i almost
00:24:28.320 the steering wheel almost you know took me down below to the ocean you know probably what i'm talking
00:24:33.840 about big sur you know how steep it can be yeah oh yeah and anyway um and i stopped the car as soon
00:24:39.540 as i could and you know in retrospective all i can think of is what they talk about they say that
00:24:46.880 the mind has an amazing ability to make pretty much sense of anything including the worst that's how you
00:24:55.680 could nazis can justify these actions we have that capability as humans but they say the body the body
00:25:02.800 doesn't doesn't have that ability and in my case i would go further i would say that the soul and
00:25:08.660 maybe that's a differentiation for me between the mind and the soul and the soul is much more
00:25:13.440 connected to the body than to the mind and i think that day that day they separated that day the
00:25:19.960 separation happened body slash soul said i am done with you mind trying to justify pretty much anything
00:25:26.020 or accept pretty much anything you're on your own with that madness so literally two people in one body
00:25:31.400 soul body here and mind over there and i had to and i think that separation is what caused the jerking
00:25:40.320 around the body going so violent and i stopped the car and i got out i got out and got on my knees
00:25:47.620 literally and i said god this is it this is it i i i i surrender because surrendering was the only thing i
00:25:54.340 could do to alleviate the pain because what happened is the best thing you can do it is right surrendering
00:26:02.700 and so i made a vow with god and i said look from here on i will show up and i want for every breath
00:26:11.180 that i take to be to the service of africa of my people now mind you i don't know what to do i don't
00:26:18.720 know what to do about this because my whole life what i've said to myself i would push it under the rug and i
00:26:23.080 would say listen this problem was there before you it will probably be there long after you're gone
00:26:29.120 please leave your life please try to have a successful life at your own level that still
00:26:34.840 will be a great thing there is this is just just try to live your life but that day didn't work
00:26:40.420 anymore i i just felt like maybe this is what i came here for i had to do more and i would never be
00:26:45.780 left alone until i did more and once you realize that you're just like okay i get it i heard you now
00:26:50.460 okay but you're gonna have to show me the way god because i don't know what to do from here
00:26:53.300 and sure enough glenn everything started to happen everything so eventually i went back home
00:26:58.640 to senegal it's been four years since i haven't been back then because you know with my immigration
00:27:04.160 and everything you have to wait make sure your h1b everything gets through before you get out
00:27:08.440 otherwise you you know so anyway so i took my husband back then who was french to senegal and
00:27:13.120 to show him where i came from and everything and they're discovering that the hibiscus that i grew up
00:27:17.260 with has disappeared the women who used to grow the hibiscus to you know to make the beverage um
00:27:23.400 were losing their livelihoods leaving the countryside packing themselves into the cities becoming maids
00:27:28.480 treated really badly the cycle of poverty going on and meanwhile this beverage which is part of my
00:27:34.180 culture disappearing and i was just like you got to be kidding me so i was in shambles and eventually
00:27:41.220 remembered what my father would always say criticize by creating it's okay to have a problem
00:27:47.260 with the world but you have to offer alternatives you cannot just be in criticism mode and i got up
00:27:53.460 and i'm like okay i'm just going to start a company it's going to be bringing back this beverage we're
00:27:58.300 going to put women back to work by the time the undp did a case study on us we had put back to work
00:28:05.280 400 women and later 9 000 women and it was all happening came back to the u.s got myself a
00:28:11.840 business partner we went at it we did all of this but you know glenn the reason why i bring up this
00:28:15.740 story is it's in doing that that i got my answer why some countries are poor others are rich because
00:28:22.600 while i was doing that uh we had a sister company in the u.s and a sister company in senegal my home
00:28:28.200 country and just from the get-go back then it was in 2003 um we were setting up the the the the legal
00:28:36.460 entities in the u.s it was so fast we're talking less than a day back then we're talking maybe a
00:28:44.100 couple hundred dollars over there back then almost two years thousands of dollars thousands of dollars
00:28:51.120 opening a bank account you had to jump through all types of hoops over here 20 bucks you could open
00:28:55.400 a bank account you're on your way and then the labor laws the labor laws back home you married
00:29:00.060 your employees for good or for bad the minute you hire an employee first of all it's the state that
00:29:04.120 also has to agree that you can hire so and so and at which price and when you need to let them go
00:29:10.160 the state also has to approve that and it's at all levels the tax laws the tax laws are so complicated
00:29:16.980 that is worth truckloads of laws and regulations so much that you will make a mistake and making a
00:29:23.640 mistake means you're always subjecting yourself to being harassed and or imprisoned by the government
00:29:28.440 yep so so i'm comparing these two things and i'm like wow it is so easy to start and run a business
00:29:35.680 here in america and over here it is so hard and then my answer was again oh but of course americans
00:29:41.620 are rich that's why and america we're poor that's why just come to think wait a second you just said
00:29:46.340 poor wait a second you're poor because you don't have enough money uh at least not enough money to
00:29:51.940 take care of your basic needs you don't have money because you don't have a source of income
00:29:57.040 what is a source of income for most of us it is a job isn't it where do jobs come from it comes from
00:30:04.800 businesses the private sector oh but wait didn't you just tell me it is super hard over here to build
00:30:10.680 to run to start and run a business and here you told me it is super easy to start and run a business
00:30:15.940 connect the dots connect the dots connect the dots glenn now now it's all making sense to me
00:30:21.860 yeah if indeed jobs are what's needed for people to get an income income which act gets them out of
00:30:32.480 poverty yet you're telling me that in this place it's almost impossible to start a business wow and then
00:30:41.220 you look around and you start looking at all of these economic indexes the doing business index
00:30:46.480 um um of a world bank the heritage uh economic freedom index all of these indexes measuring how
00:30:53.080 hard or easy it is to start and run a business pretty much anywhere in the world and systematically
00:30:57.720 these indexes are showing what uh what as an entrepreneur i have been going through basically it
00:31:04.320 is harder to do business in almost anywhere in sub-saharan africa than it is anywhere in scandinavia
00:31:10.500 and i take scandinavia because even the most anti-business people among us bernie sanders i'm
00:31:15.640 talking to you uh like to use you know like to use like to use uh scandinavia as a model i'm like
00:31:24.380 because of course bernie sanders doesn't understand that scandinavian nations are more capitalist than
00:31:28.640 almost any sub-saharan african nations um yeah so there glenn i had it africa is the poorest region
00:31:36.420 in the world because it happens to be the most over-regulated region in the world it is a region
00:31:43.040 in the world that offers the least economic freedom to its entrepreneurs it means our entrepreneurs are
00:31:49.800 not free to enterprise and when entrepreneurs are not free to enterprise they cannot build the
00:31:54.540 companies that create the jobs jobs which provide the income income which takes somebody from poverty
00:31:59.960 to prosperity there you had it done and of course five only is it is it five percent of the businesses
00:32:07.580 in senegal are legal yeah yeah and it's uh and those numbers are pretty much the same uh all over
00:32:16.040 you know um sub-saharan africa except for four of them so so one of the problems that i've always
00:32:22.880 thought and i was so glad when i heard bono say this because he's been raising money for africa forever
00:32:27.180 and at one point he i think he was talking maybe at the london school of economics and he said and
00:32:32.440 they didn't like to hear this but he said you know aid is one thing but i think i've been wrong all these
00:32:39.500 years what they need is jobs and industry and they need a maybe a hand up but not a handout otherwise
00:32:49.380 we're just perpetuating this and i think of all the people that claim to love uh africa and want to
00:32:58.640 help i think most of the things they're doing is keeping africa down glenn let me say something right
00:33:07.920 there because i think um this correlation most people don't make obviously i'm a black person
00:33:15.440 i'm privileged to travel around the world i live not only in one place but a couple places
00:33:21.720 um i have you know i live in senegal as well as i live in the u.s because my business also is in
00:33:28.020 senegal we manufacture products there and we sell them in the u.s and um you see what i have noticed
00:33:35.780 it's always the same when you said the people who claim to love africa i will push it further down
00:33:40.920 in this case let me bring let me bring grace into this the people who claim to care about black
00:33:46.520 people systematically seem to be the self-proclaimed people and they always have the same mo with black
00:33:56.280 people and it is never about looking at us as fully capable people but it's almost like there must
00:34:06.720 be something inherently wrong with us that that which works with other people cannot work with us
00:34:13.080 let me let me make the the comparisons here for you for africa what do these self-proclaimed people
00:34:21.700 who care about africa what have they been promoting they have been promoting foreign aid
00:34:27.500 and humanitarian aid
00:34:30.600 here in the u.s what have they been promoting welfare for the most part right and of course
00:34:41.920 that stuff is not working why because in both situations it is robbing us of our self-agency
00:34:51.300 as if we're not capable wow of doing as much or or more than others this and when you follow that
00:35:00.380 train of thought of course it's gonna it's gonna instruct everything else this is how you end up
00:35:05.240 with some women saying that two plus two equals four is racist and math is simply not something
00:35:12.780 that black people can handle therefore we have to dumb dumb math we have to we have to even erase
00:35:20.540 math if possible because that's the only circumstances under which they can thrive
00:35:24.500 you do the same thing to me when you are not seeing what economic freedom means
00:35:29.980 um so here what i'll do is just take a little um comparison again look glenn for anything in the
00:35:38.740 world to thrive whether it's for you as a human being or a tomato plant you're gonna plant or anything
00:35:43.620 i believe there are two things that are needed you need it needs to start with a good seed a good core
00:35:49.620 the seed for me is and the core for me is just that character and virtue and then it needs to be
00:35:57.100 implanted in the right soil with the right nutrients with the right uh sun exposure all of that good
00:36:04.480 stuff if you optimize those two you get the best tomato plant you can find in the world ever you find
00:36:13.220 the best person most productive healthy happy person you could find ever so let me let me wait wait let
00:36:20.700 me push back on you and to play devil's advocate here please um yeah but you you were born underprivileged
00:36:29.260 you don't you've never been exposed they've never been exposed to these things um you know they don't
00:36:36.760 know how the rest of the world work whatever the excuse is they'll say it it comes from oppression
00:36:43.860 being colonialized or colonized and uh uh and oppressed by people sold into slavery so you have
00:36:51.420 all these disadvantages that you can't make it on your own yeah so how do you respond to that
00:36:59.980 the answer that i would have to that is bullshit bullshit why bullshit let me explain right oh i love
00:37:09.860 you why why bullshit why because first of all even in the u.s how many millions of black outliers do you
00:37:17.600 have how many how many glenn how many and then you have those of us who come from from africa coming to
00:37:27.260 the u.s again look at how many if you want to take that premise i am starting to see that the outliers
00:37:34.600 are that many more than what you just what you just put on the table now the problem is they're the
00:37:42.120 most vocal ones and they have academia media and hollywood on their side which it's a big huge
00:37:51.600 megaphone so we live under this illusion that what they're saying is actually true and the only people
00:38:00.300 who are going to get screwed by it are the people who are actually willing and listening to them
00:38:05.800 and by the way it's not necessarily the white people who are going to suffer from this
00:38:09.340 but any black person who stakes their future on these narratives is going to be doomed
00:38:16.980 so i i was talking to uh james lindsey um who is an atheist um very very bright man and i said uh
00:38:27.040 james i i i've sworn off the word evil um but i i can't think of another word that fits this does an
00:38:35.660 atheist and he said well what what do you mean i said this whole philosophy is telling people because
00:38:43.700 of your race you can never make it without us and you know without without our little group here
00:38:53.660 that's going to plow all these people under and they're never going to let you uh buy i said you
00:39:01.620 are destroying people's um will their self-esteem their willingness and hopefulness of looking forward
00:39:12.140 and going i can do anything you're destroying it there there's no other word that fits other than
00:39:18.700 evil that's right and he said i think i agree with you it's evil what's happening that's right that's
00:39:25.260 right now evil is definitely happening but you know even if i say there is evil and this is me now push
00:39:34.700 doing devil's advocate on you yeah even then it might be evil but glenn in the end of it at the end
00:39:41.300 of the day this is what again i learned from grandma is they whoever whoever they is and sometimes they
00:39:48.060 is i don't know white people they can be another nation they whoever they is and whatever reason why
00:39:57.600 they supposedly do not want you to self-actualize um as optimally as possible my grandma would say you
00:40:06.400 know what and so who cares the minute you give them that power you're done so for me i am not even
00:40:17.040 willing to stop at the very evil because if you're stopping at the very evil it's still letting me off the
00:40:24.240 hook me this human being who has the choice or not right to hear that or not that is the i think
00:40:34.640 that's the thing about socialism is it tries to crush your your self-determination um so it can control
00:40:44.640 you and the minute the populist stands up and goes no i'm not giving it'll it in some cases it has been
00:40:53.440 very bloody for a very long time but as long as you have this business why i think they're they're
00:40:59.040 after religion so much of the time because when you have a belief in god you have this faith that
00:41:06.400 you know even if you plow me under it's all going to be for god's good and so i'm i know who i answer
00:41:12.320 to that's right um and they can't have that no so capitalism when done right when it's not crony
00:41:18.960 capitalism yes where it's not in bed with the government yes um that frees people and feeds
00:41:26.080 people and has changed the world and now it's getting such a bad name it is it is it is getting
00:41:33.440 such a bad name but um i think capitalism is getting more of a bad name in wealthy nations today than it is
00:41:42.000 for example in places like africa yeah do we have people especially the pan-africans who are anti
00:41:46.880 uh capitalism and this goes back to by the way uh the days of the african liberators um you know
00:41:54.560 so we do have people like that but africa is the youngest population in the world 19 years old one
00:42:00.400 nine and by 2050 one quarter of the world population will be african and unlike one way way way way way
00:42:08.480 you heard me right one one in every four people will be african yes yes wow no one is paying attention
00:42:15.520 at least definitely america is not paying attention and this is sometimes this is something that's
00:42:20.000 really to me it's mind-boggling um because think about it and the nice thing about this population
00:42:25.840 is unlike maybe what might be going on in latin america where there is a strong sense of identity
00:42:33.200 related to socialism for various reasons various reasons the african population the youth does not have
00:42:39.920 that baggage against capitalism per se they just wants to see a system that works for them as well
00:42:47.600 sadly for most of them the only businesses that they have seen work for the most part
00:42:52.400 is uh crony businesses my friend um you know would call it a capitalism but in this case
00:43:01.120 in this case um that's what they have seen happen but but what you have is this amazingly young
00:43:07.280 population who doesn't have preconceived you know um mental blockages against capitalism all they want
00:43:15.040 is for it to work they're not they want to have fridges they want to have cars they want to have
00:43:19.920 all of this all the things i talked about they want to have it okay so are this is this is like the
00:43:25.120 youngest population in the world and i see here so so far who has been dealing with us um the europeans
00:43:32.160 is primarily in my side of africa the french and what has been their relationship to us it has been
00:43:38.240 you leader corrupt leader i am going to work with you where in a way i protect your national boundaries
00:43:47.280 and um in exchange for your natural resources in the meantime in this deal the everyday ordinary african
00:43:56.000 what's in there for him to see nothing in that deal they don't exist russian slash chinese uh the chinese
00:44:03.600 chinese come and say uh you you um corrupted leader this is how i'm going to help i'm going to work with
00:44:11.040 you we're going to build the infrastructure with you so that your people don't rebel against you for the
00:44:16.560 time being in exchange your natural resources and by the way we give you the loans you pay us back and
00:44:22.800 we bring our own people to work on these projects so no jobs for the africans even the rice that they
00:44:28.560 eat is imported from china nothing not even a usb key stays on the ground so that's the chinese deal
00:44:34.800 what's in there for the uh ordinary african except for the road they get on or that bridge that maybe
00:44:40.320 it's going to collapse it's going to collapse 10 years from now because it was not done the right
00:44:43.360 way and many of us die on it but nobody's ever going to care not much for the ordinary african
00:44:48.160 and then the russian now comes comes in and the russians are like you uh corrupt leader how i'm
00:44:52.880 going to work with you is i'm going to be here to protect you your personal integrity against your
00:44:58.880 people and against your military and against your you know um secret defenses and all of that in
00:45:04.720 exchange your natural resources of course ordinary african sees nothing this is a place where i see
00:45:09.840 for america to say to show to show up and when i say america i mean the people of america to say guys
00:45:19.200 guys in this case meaning you ordinary africans we're going to go hand in hand together and with
00:45:24.400 the power of the free markets which means we're going to do business with one another we are going
00:45:30.160 to elevate each other together because that's what the markets do and then glenn imagine the opportunity
00:45:35.520 that we have here for this next generation one quarter of the population to all of a sudden
00:45:40.640 have a natural relationship to capitalism as you say done right have a natural healthy relationship to
00:45:48.160 it why because they experienced what it is and what it means and what it can do to their lives
00:45:53.920 this is the opportunity we have on the table right now that america is not taking we think it's all about
00:45:59.280 guns and and and you know that soft power right there we have a way of doing it and americans
00:46:04.880 who americans better than americans do does this that's what they've done for this country so we are
00:46:10.320 missing out on this and meanwhile right now our youth is becoming pretty much corrupt by uh russia
00:46:16.320 is the latest one to to come to the scene so that's something that i think americans have to think
00:46:20.960 about but instead of thinking about this glenn let me give you an example of what they're doing instead
00:46:24.960 so remember when we talked about the business environment being one of them uh african business
00:46:31.280 african countries having some of the most rotten business environments in the world which doesn't
00:46:34.960 allow their entrepreneurs to work well one of the solutions that i'm working on is what we call the
00:46:39.120 charter city the startup cities these are next generation special economic zones with their own
00:46:43.840 law their own governance when it comes to business so that straight at home i too get to benefit from a
00:46:50.480 world-class business environment from ever having to take my little feet and trying to migrate somewhere
00:46:55.840 else in the world to build my business and be successful i can do it straight from home and
00:47:00.720 achieve all of that from home do it surrounded by my family surrounded by my community surrounded by my
00:47:06.480 people surrounded by my land all of that do it in just like you get to do it in the us so here we are
00:47:13.360 doing these things but guess what right now something like that is happening in honduras on the island of
00:47:18.800 rory tan there is uh there is an initiative called prospera it's just that special economic zones so
00:47:25.760 honduras on its own is i think 130 or 142 i should know better and um on their own they're 130 or 142
00:47:34.000 under doing businesses record index ranking either way really bad ranking really bad but this zone on
00:47:41.920 its own guess which number it is glenn give me a number number 20 number nine top ten nine number nine
00:47:53.360 top ten and we're seeing the results companies are coming jobs are being created all of that good stuff
00:47:58.480 is happening but then guess what what did people like senator warren um cory bush and um bernie sanders
00:48:09.520 decide to do they decided to side with the government the current government of honduras which is known
00:48:15.600 to be in bed with the governments of cuba venezuela and china are those really the best actors we can
00:48:23.120 be dealing with so they're all in bed together especially especially not with business exactly
00:48:29.120 so now trying to push out this zone and expropriate american investments and elizabeth warren like i said
00:48:36.560 cory bush and um bernie sanders are helping while they're doing that while they're promoting the
00:48:43.200 expropriation of american businesses guess what they're using the imf arm to actually give a 900
00:48:52.960 million dollar package aid package to honduras so what are you doing when you're doing that you're
00:48:58.880 saying no to the businesses that will build the jobs that the hondurans need and by the way now connect
00:49:04.960 that to the immigration happening in the us we're all everybody here is fighting with one another
00:49:10.880 because of the immigration right there we have an opportunity for the people of honduras to be able
00:49:16.640 to stay home and build lives back at home in the most serene way possible and we're denying them that
00:49:25.760 right meanwhile financing promoting aid so these governments then you ask me what incentives do they
00:49:36.960 ever have to do the right thing but then you turn around and say oh they're corrupt well you're feeding
00:49:41.680 the corruption right there right so right so glenn uh what which is it gonna be because you can't have
00:49:49.840 it both ways but i guess in this situation i am starting to think that maybe elizabeth warren and
00:49:55.760 the left only not wants in the immigration uh going on they use us as political pawns that's the only
00:50:02.320 thing i can think of oh yes i mean it is you know the the idea some of the the most the most racist people
00:50:13.040 that i've ever seen in bulk um are those that are saying things like to save the planet we have to make
00:50:23.440 sure that africa uh doesn't build power plants who the hell are you to tell people anywhere that they can't
00:50:35.680 have cheap power cheap power is the first stepping stone no no no power is the first stepping stone
00:50:45.440 to being able to build your country and build business and become self-reliant and we are
00:50:52.800 we are crushing crushing not only our own country but the poorest countries in the world because
00:51:02.000 we say no you you can't you can't have that kind of power yeah we won't help you build that exactly
00:51:08.640 and um in addition it's a very good point and it's that's the only reason why i added um the anti-fossil
00:51:14.880 fuel zealots to my war because they're a huge threat to this development that we need because without power
00:51:22.720 like you said what what's going to run these businesses yeah but you know glenn this is even what
00:51:26.640 happens to africa if we get rid of fossil fuels we're dead we're dead we have a sacrificial lambs
00:51:34.480 on on this on in the story didn't you get the memo and so there's even worse than that glenn there's
00:51:41.200 worse than that every year every year on the african continent african continent alone because the
00:51:48.480 numbers get much bigger when you take the rest of the poor nations one to two million african women
00:51:53.760 are dying every single year due to indoor air pollution because these women don't have access
00:52:00.960 to clean burning fuels meanwhile right anti-fossil fuel zealots are telling them oh don't you want
00:52:08.240 these solar stoves we gave you come give me a break solar stoves that's the best you can that stuff
00:52:14.320 doesn't work you know it's it's laying around all over the place doesn't work these women don't want
00:52:18.640 it leave me alone so then they're telling them well too bad then because that's the only other thing
00:52:23.760 you allowed it's that and then women are like oh fine so i'm going to go back to burning my lungs
00:52:28.240 literally frying my lungs using biomass of different sorts and this is happening people don't
00:52:35.200 right now i know and people don't realize in in america 125 30 years ago the number one killer of
00:52:43.920 of women was not childbirth it was fire there you go it was fire because you were cooking indoors
00:52:52.160 that's right and nobody is nobody's willing to really look at these things that's right instead
00:52:58.320 they're they're pushing this narrative you know the black lives matter i don't think they do to those
00:53:04.320 people i don't i don't think black lives matter black lives matter those words i'm 100 on board with
00:53:13.040 but the organization of made especially of self-proclaimed marxist no they're it's a sham
00:53:21.200 it's a sham the crooks uh whatever you want to call it it is what it is how again when you go back to
00:53:28.320 whoever in this country or back um in africa by the way africa glenn is home to 90 of the
00:53:35.040 representatives of the black race and when you know that what africa needs the most right now to grow to
00:53:41.040 get out of poverty into power into out of poverty into prosperity is economic freedom meaning
00:53:45.600 capitalism free market capitalism and you being a marxist which is the opposite of it you can't
00:53:52.960 with a straight face tell me that you care about black lives you cannot tell me with a straight face
00:53:59.600 that the very force that africa as a continent where again 90 of the representatives of a black race
00:54:07.440 lives what it needs the most you are against yet you tell me that black lives matter no it doesn't
00:54:16.640 so so let's go back to a solution the the startup cities i mean i i for a while because i'm a big um
00:54:25.600 i'm a big fan of walt disney and i think if walt disney would have lived an extra 10 years the world
00:54:31.120 would have changed because he was working on ebcot which was not an amusement park it was a prototype
00:54:37.680 city of tomorrow and he was completely redesigning it uh in a way that would be much more independent
00:54:45.520 freer from uh many regulations um and the best ideas would would win um and you know i brought that to
00:54:56.080 uh texas that spirit to texas and even texas is just over regulated to where you can't just open up
00:55:04.640 a space and say let's just think freely here for a second forget everything else let's just think freely
00:55:14.000 is there a place in africa that that can be done where the government will protect it yeah so the good
00:55:21.360 news is we've been talking to six nations going on eight and i'm very confident um that very soon
00:55:27.120 we'll be able to announce one i was very close um a year ago i was very very close uh but then you know
00:55:34.240 government being what it is uh you have some things happening in um there's always something happening
00:55:39.120 in government as you know and a deal that was almost about to be signed um something just happens and
00:55:44.240 the everything gets thrown off track but um like i said i have six going on eight that i'm working
00:55:51.040 with and um what i'm seeing is actually the excitement and that's what i'm really excited
00:55:55.520 about really excited about um there are many little considerations that come into mind when we try to
00:56:01.360 when we look at which country to go after right um ideally you're looking at a country where you have
00:56:07.280 a leader that despite the the public figure that you know he or she gives to the rest of the world
00:56:14.240 this is somebody who um understands these these issues understands has some understanding of you
00:56:21.200 know how prosperity is built they may not have had the opportunity to build it because not maybe the
00:56:27.520 right team in place or whatever but they have it you're looking at people who have been um who still
00:56:32.640 have time on their mandate or mandates you are looking at the geography of the country itself ideally
00:56:39.120 you don't want landlocked but you can still do it with landlocked uh with some some some extra caveats
00:56:44.240 in there and then when you do that um then you start to look at the the constitution of that country
00:56:51.920 but you also need to look at the international treaties that they signed because for anybody who
00:56:56.160 understands anything about this um international treaties for the most part oftentimes supersede
00:57:01.120 even some parts of your constitution you know i think the europeans many european nations are seeing
00:57:05.360 that and there's also a big problem that's why probably um um some some some very specific
00:57:11.840 parties will be elected uh in june when the eu goes for elections you know people trying to elect um
00:57:19.360 representatives who are going to go back and renegotiate uh immigration laws within eu because
00:57:24.560 right now it's superseding uh country by country um immigration laws right so in any case so you have to
00:57:30.560 look at all of these parameters and then you also have to look at the lay of the land and kind of
00:57:35.840 help them design a plan as to how we're going to do this some of these countries are going to have
00:57:40.080 in this zone to allow for common law to happen within the zone when the rest of the country is on civil
00:57:45.440 law right and so that's that can be a pretty heavy undertaking as you can imagine right um yes so so
00:57:52.080 there's all of this type of work that needs to be done and as you can imagine at that level too there
00:57:56.880 is these extra forces happening with uh especially in the case of francophone nations there's always
00:58:02.320 these tensions that are happening with the hold that france might have on some of these nations
00:58:07.680 so finding ways to do this in a way that is not threatening to pretty much
00:58:12.240 anyone and that's why this is the the the the city is the model because what we do there really
00:58:19.120 is on a rather unoccupied plot of land where literally there is nothing because people decided
00:58:24.560 there is not there could be nothing um there's nothing to fight for over there and so what you
00:58:29.600 do is uh you always have to find a country where not you know in every of these countries where the
00:58:35.680 laws are so bad uh only the cronies for the most part can get to do business and i i don't when when
00:58:41.840 i say crony i want to be very careful here because you got to do with what you have right um
00:58:47.760 you have to do what you have it's not like these people woke up and said i want to be a cronies i'm
00:58:50.960 going to be a crony but you know you get started you start being shaken down you realize the only
00:58:54.880 way to stay in business is to you know get give into it you would prefer different ways but this
00:58:59.120 is what it is but anyway by the time you arrive uh some people are benefiting from the status quo
00:59:04.320 some people are benefiting from the status quo and they definitely do not want it to go anywhere so
00:59:08.880 you do not want to frighten those people under no circumstances ever because if you go to war with
00:59:13.600 them you will lose just the way it is so you don't go to war with them but what you do is um you go to the
00:59:20.000 the next layer so we're talking about the cousins we're talking about the younger brother you know
00:59:26.160 those who are they're close enough to smell the goodies but they can't touch it because
00:59:32.880 the layer one already has it so if you have people like that who are close to the government
00:59:38.880 then this is where the magic can start to happen because you speak with them they get you uh contact
00:59:44.320 with in contact with the government you have all of these conversations and then this is going to be
00:59:48.640 actually the place that layer two gets to actually get some real work done so remember the the the
00:59:54.480 other the other layer of um people who are close to the government so and it's with them actually
01:00:01.040 that you work and usually uh layer one meaning um the people who are benefiting from the status quo right
01:00:06.720 now they have these big businesses whatever they don't see you as a threat because you're just there
01:00:10.880 and if nothing and and some of the ways you do this also is you have ways for them to have
01:00:15.920 um for example you know there is the zone all the money that is going to build there is a part of
01:00:22.400 that um income that is going to go back to the the the normal government right to the to the to the to
01:00:29.520 the national government and you can have deals where for example um you know the money is going to go
01:00:36.400 through this bank that is very legitimate bank but it's owned by some of these people and you see so you
01:00:42.240 start to figure out how how are you going to make sure that everybody's interest is in a way together
01:00:48.960 because that's what i love about peaceful commerce if we're in the same freaking boat you're not going
01:00:52.560 to mess with me because you put the hole in the boat we all go down so instead of fighting instead of
01:00:57.200 fighting i think people have to really have a different mindset and first of all really look at the
01:01:01.280 people of the land and look at these government officials also as the heroes of the story they have been
01:01:06.800 used to being called all types of names but again glenn i guarantee you anything you want you know
01:01:12.000 a lot of these people many of them get into government uh to do good things and then they go
01:01:16.560 in and you know how it is you get the system corrupts you or it will tell you clear flat out you want to
01:01:22.320 be clean here you're going to be spat out because the antibodies like you cannot we can't keep them
01:01:26.560 here so anyway whatever for from whatever reason it is it ends up being the way it is so i think
01:01:31.840 what happens is you have to come with a clean with a clean and uh and different mindset where the
01:01:37.280 local people are going to have to be the heroes of a story where the people in government working
01:01:42.160 with you to make something like this happen have to become the the heroes of a story where you don't
01:01:47.280 look at the oligarchs on the ground as um de facto enemies but you try to understand how and where can we
01:01:54.480 honestly um legally join forces to make this thing work and these zones by the way the one we have we
01:02:01.600 negotiated a 50-year contract uh 50-year protection plan from the government signed in so meaning no
01:02:06.880 matter which government comes in they cannot really attack you in honduras they're trying but i think
01:02:11.200 they're finding that it has teeth so it has real teeth so if you take all of these parameters into
01:02:16.560 account and you go in with a very different mindset then i think you really get to build something
01:02:21.600 amazing and then all we need is one two three to be built and then the change happen because
01:02:25.680 everybody's going to emulate you rather than you know you trying to keep knocking more doors so that's
01:02:30.640 pretty much how i've been going at it as the co-founder of prosper africa working with a prosper
01:02:35.600 team which is one of the best in the world for this uh on our team we have a um ex chief strategy
01:02:40.960 officer of a dubai international financial center so amazing people like that but again what our team
01:02:46.720 has in check tell me tell me real quick what is what i know you are what what do you do because
01:02:53.760 your team is actually putting this into practice all you know so the world can come
01:03:00.800 to africa yes yes we're doing it in my case especially in africa i am doing it so no child
01:03:07.360 because you have to remember glenn at the end of the day for me everything is personal i have vowed at
01:03:12.640 some point in my life that no child ever would have to be separated from her family because of economic
01:03:19.040 reasons i i've just it just it just it's just it's just a vow of my i could not i could not do it for
01:03:25.120 myself but if i can if i can have a say in it for other children you betcha you betcha so the reason
01:03:31.920 why i'm doing this is because i want for anyone at home who would like to build a life at home to be
01:03:39.040 able to build a life at home so we're creating these zones primarily so that africans no longer have to
01:03:46.720 migrate away from their countries the way they have to right now simply due to bad to bad um
01:03:53.120 business uh business business climates in their countries and beyond that of course uh the caveat to
01:03:58.800 this is because the laws are so i mean these business environments are so well designed um glenn
01:04:06.240 when you're thinking about the fact that you have you know law its own law and its own governance
01:04:11.200 when it comes to business also custom regulatory framework you're designing these zones so
01:04:16.560 that the regulatory cannot be um co-opted it cannot be captured and so i give you for people
01:04:23.920 listening to us i give an example it's almost like you know right now anybody in the us um starting an
01:04:29.200 llc or a company you know that you can incorporate it pretty much in any state you want regardless of
01:04:33.360 the state where you live right so that that that um right is what we call choice of law so most
01:04:40.160 companies especially most everybody in the us has it at least within the us and then globally globally
01:04:45.920 multinationals get to pick pretty much their choice of law from anywhere in the world so choice of
01:04:50.480 law is there we think it should be for everyone up and down this up and down the stream but in
01:04:55.280 addition to choice of law right uh regulatory choice you know choice of regulatory meaning that for
01:05:01.200 example if you're going to be a medical in the medical industry you need you should be able to get
01:05:05.680 to choose am i going to subject myself to the fda as a regulatory body or am i going to subject myself to
01:05:12.560 a to the oecd or any of the oecd countries because this is how you see sometimes
01:05:17.280 you need a treatment the fda says you can't have it here then people have to travel over to germany
01:05:22.080 so only those of us who can afford it go there to get a treatment that works you know so right here
01:05:27.520 on the zone you get to have also regulatory uh choice of regulatory it's rather amazing and that in
01:05:34.480 itself is is a such an amazing innovation and so game changing it's amazing so um and this along with
01:05:41.120 many other things like and also even property rights pushing it from where it is now to like
01:05:46.160 uh having a three dimension uh property rights model where you know property rights doesn't even
01:05:51.520 just have to be the superficie meaning like uh like this table here and height but also width like
01:05:57.280 meaning the view the view is already taken into account this is maybe too much for people to follow
01:06:02.080 in but for anybody who is into law and regulation here follow up if you want to have more details
01:06:07.200 but so what i'm saying here is that it is so amazing that um it promotes innovation first and
01:06:13.920 foremost so what's going to happen so now all of a sudden glenn imagine what's going to happen to me
01:06:18.240 as an african i go from being one of the least respected places in the world because we are the poorest
01:06:25.840 region in the world which by the way i think also fuels racism but anyway uh we go from that pathetic
01:06:32.160 state of affairs the rest of world doesn't even think people don't even think we could ever get
01:06:36.800 anywhere we go from that to leapfrogging into places where our people don't have to move anymore if
01:06:43.680 they don't want to because all about choice you want to go we want for immigration to become all of a
01:06:47.920 sudden we want for people to no longer immigrate because of hunger but because of taste that's
01:06:54.720 where we have to get to so now we got to that place and on top of that now the most amazing
01:07:00.880 innovative companies in the world in the most cutting-edge industries in the world choose
01:07:07.920 africa to go build their businesses because the because the business climate allows it and now we
01:07:14.400 go from being the last in the world to being we took the elevator and we're like on top that's what i
01:07:21.840 see glenn that's why i'm bullish on my on my continent because we know how to do this and we know how to
01:07:26.800 get there and it doesn't need too many people it's only one to five percent of the population that
01:07:31.200 changes the world for good or for bad i find my people we go and we're going to get it done
01:07:36.560 margot you are a delight thank you so much the name of her book is uh the heart of a cheetah
01:07:44.160 and i i think you can see that uh in you the heart of the cheetah margot wade thank you thank you
01:07:51.760 my god thank you so much and i appreciate you
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