Ep 215 | African Entrepreneur SLAMS 'Do-Good' Snobs Making Poverty Worse | The Glenn Beck Podcast
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In this episode, entrepreneur and prosperity activist Magot Waje Wade shares his story of growing up in a broken family and how he overcame the trauma of being left behind by his African immigrant parents to become a successful entrepreneur and entrepreneur.
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and now a blaze media podcast a few years ago my next guest sat down with dr jordan peterson
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and finally gave a good answer to the question do black lives actually matter i don't mean in
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the virtue signaling sort of way you know everybody post a black square of facebook and
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instagram yeah that's not uh i mean do they really matter do we actually care by 2050 25
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percent of the world's population will be african that's a lot of black lives we should care about
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but instead most philanthropists avoid the solution that could actually lift africa out of poverty
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capitalism no more toxic foreign aid even bono gets this now no more raising money off of pictures of
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helplessly poor africans no matter what the socialists say the most effective way to end poverty
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is to free the market my next guest today has a plan to make that happen please welcome amazing
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entrepreneur and prosperity activist magot wade you imagine the number of african americans that have
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died um because of because of abortion we have a spiritual and moral mandate as citizens of this
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life and death preborn.com slash glenn hello my god how are you hello glenn i'm very well thank you
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thanks for having me good i uh i feel like i could be a brother from another mother you have i mean
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everything i read uh from you i'm like yes and i have a feeling a lot of people who have never heard
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you before are going to feel exactly the same way that we are i don't know maybe it's just that you're
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speaking common sense so clearly and you just don't hear it very often anymore so i'm excited for this
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conversation thank you likewise um so let's let's start with uh well let's start with
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who you are and where you came from you were born in senegal right yes i was born in senegal the west
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coast of africa and the way i like to tell my story really is um from the standpoint of my um
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evolutionary intellectual journey because i think it's very important so the best way to to to try and
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follow the journey is yes i was born in senegal west coast of africa and then right around age two
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my parents made the hard decision that so many african parents before them had to make and so
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many african parents since them continue making which is take this painful decision to leave their
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child behind in this case they left me behind um why so to provide for a better life for me they just
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decided that in order to provide for a better life for me they had to separate from me um many families
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try to do the journey together right they take they try to take their children together with them
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but my parents said you know she's too young and we don't know what's gonna what's waiting for us
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on the other side so um better leave her alone with uh our their parents in this case my grandma
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and um eventually they left and um you know you might say oh a couple years is not much but um you
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know i think stuff like that you it follows you right in in bizarre ways oh yeah but but my parents
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did what they had to do they they did what they had to do i'm not mad at them at all if anything
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i'm very grateful you know for the journey that they decided to take so they left me behind with
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my grandma and uh moved to europe back then um first they arrived in france but then eventually
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later on they moved to germany and by the time they decided that the immigration journey had worked
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they were still in germany and that's when they called for me so right around age seven or so
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um i was called to go be reunited with them and there i had to go through the second major
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separation of my life because this time now i have to leave grandma behind and so that's a whole
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other you know level of um of um you know like um trauma again but anyway um moved left uh grandma
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behind and grandma was very clear with me because she said baby you're gonna be going to this place
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where almost no one is going to look like you and they won't speak the same language as you do
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and there the children have been going they go to school not something that you've been doing because
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i was very much a free rent child as i like to say anyway so but grandma said something very important
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right after that and she said she said although most of them will not look like you because many of
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them are going to have this white skin and you have this black skin she said it is still it is still
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human skin human they're human you're human that's all that matters and then she said and that language
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they speak it's still a human language so if they can speak it you being a human you surely will be
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able to speak it and um going to school is what little humans do you're a little human you'll be just
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fine and she said you can you can be you know she said you can be impressed with some of this
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but um under nerve circumstances can you be um intimidated by it and my grandma was very
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intentional with her words very she would always choose them very carefully and so sure enough i go
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to germany you know very curious pairs of eyes looking at me you know the kids are like what is
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this person and i'm looking at them who are you you know it was very fun but you know and so right
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there you know your little girl and everything grandma said was true she said she predicted so for
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me she had predicted all of these things you have to understand right so that's how i see it
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and i'm like surely the next thing grandma said is going to be true as well so i will be fine i will
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learn german and i will learn and eventually within six months i was speaking a flawless german i was
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one of the best the best student in my class and then quickly i caught up on um i caught up on the
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classes that i missed out on from back home and it was so fantastic right and so anyway so that's how
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it started but but beyond that when i first arrived in germany glenn i looked around and the only
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question that could come to my to the little girl's mind that i was was how come they have this and we
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don't and literally all i was speaking about in that case what really triggered that in my mind was
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how come back home when grandma says my god it's time for your shower from the moment she says that and
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things start getting into motion and the moment where the water actually touches my skin 45 minutes
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to an hour can go by why because grandma has to has to get a um uh the charcoal oven going literally
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meaning like like when you're at camping and you're not cheating with that uh with a chimney right
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you put the charcoal in there you put them you know put the matches in there and then you start
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fanning it as much as you can so that it catches on and once it does you put a pot of water on it
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so to for it to boil once it boils you bring in a bigger bucket put it into that bigger bucket the
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water add colder water to it to make the temperature safer then somebody stronger than grandma would drag
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it to the shower area and there at last i can finally take my shower some 45 minutes after it was
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decided that i was going to take a shower but here in germany mom says my god it's time for your
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shower i'm like where is the bucket of warm water especially in this cold weather no way i'm getting
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naked in here and so mom would say she would say come on you silly just jump in the shower so i go in
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there turn the knobs water is coming down temperatures that i want i'm like wow it was really literally that
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it was just like and then i was like how come they have this and we don't and then it was about
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everything it was about it was about the paved roads compared to the unpaved roads back home
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always coming home having ashy feet from the dust and everything always having to wash your feet
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and then you go to these grocery stores you have these beautiful displays of all types of foods and
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and products and you know it's all climatized in the air ac in the summer and uh you know heat in the
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winter and and i think the little girl was just saying this ease of life first of all was it possible
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and and if it is how come how come they have this and we don't and that literally became the defining
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question of my life i had to know and you know how kids can be before we get in wait wait before we
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get into what you learned because i this is where i just i just love your outlook um you when did you
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move to america from germany yes so first when we um so from germany a couple years into germany
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my parents decided we're going to stay in we're going to stay in europe so we moved to france
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so we went to france and france is where i was primarily educated and after business school in
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france i decided that france would be too small for my ambitions because you know when you grow up in
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france this is why you know when people complain about america complaining about oh you know black
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people this black people that can't do this can't do this in america i'm like i knew one thing for sure
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in france in france someone like me with my background there is no way in the world in my
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wildest dreams ever that i could have achieved what i've achieved in the u.s back in france
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wow i've never heard that about france why is that because in france couple of things um when you are
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a um from the immigration and that's by the way how they talk about you you are from the from the
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immigration and um they would say so when you're applying for a job first of all
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your photo is in there your address is in there your age is in there and your address alone forget
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even your face which right away sends a signal but then your address alone tells them where you live
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and insofar as most people uh from the immigration because that's how they talk about us
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live in these ghettos that there is no other way to call it la banlieue you know la banlieue
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it's pretty much ghettos where a lot of the people from the immigration are parked in because if you
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try to move if you try to live in a different neighborhood there is going to be a strong bias
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against even your application being taken into account simply because of your skin color so you see how
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everything everything you know follows each other uh you can't live in such neighborhood so you have to
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go to the neighborhood where we're allowed but if you come from a neighborhood like that it's
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probably going to infringe on your ability to get this job or that job and on top of that even if
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you're french what they call francais de souche meaning for them you know white uh judo christian
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background that's what for many french people being french means um even if you're that then the
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class system kicks in france the the um the uh social ladder does not work very well it is it is
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very stuck and so you have very different types of classes where um and they don't you it's really
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hard to start from this one and move to the next one and to this day i even see you know i grew up
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example actually just one more thing i i grew up you know like um tv anchors like you for example well
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guess what it's almost like if it was you during my time uh but now some 25 years later you're still
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there if you're still alive but then most importantly it's your offsprings that are on tv you see the
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meritocracy where is the meritocracy in this and and go and then go go there stay with me even think
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about the top french companies today what are they i mean what is lvmh it's you know what is lvmh
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it's these brands and companies that were started many years ago and family member of the family
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member they're keeping it don't take me wrong i am very happy when the brand when a company was built
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and your offspring get to benefit from it but what i'm saying is even at that level it's very hard to
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see brand new companies that are today big big big companies so anyway you see how um the social
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ladder seems to be stuck so for many in so in my case i would have a double jeopardy as they would
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call it it's one being uh from the immigration and the other one you're just in a society where
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the class the class uh the social uh ladder and elevator just doesn't work doesn't work so of course
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it it is so amazing because growing up here we've always heard how enlightened and how we should
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be more like france um and uh and as we have in some ways recently become more like france um it's
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destroying everything that america is so you go over from france to america and what's your what was
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your hope and then what did you find oh my hope when i my hope was i look i i believed and i still
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believe in the american dream because when you're in france growing up whether you're in france or
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parts of africa america really is the it's the top destination even today you ask many young french
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people as a matter of fact many young europeans their dreams are still american dreams this they
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if you ask them anywhere they would like to go for the most part you will have some answers about
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some place in america they want to come to so the movie sold us america why what is what is the is it
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is it the palm trees and the sunshine of california yes uh or is it something else what what is it it's
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all of it it's and i would pinpoint to one word the freedom you sense it you know when you're in
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france and you're watching beverly hills 90210 whatever the zip code number was yeah 9012
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whatever the zip code was um but you know you for us imagine you're like this young kid you're like
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16 or 17 and you're watching your counterpart 16 or 17 and they can drive and they can take themselves
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pretty much anywhere they can have these jobs um it was just uh i think the abundance and most
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importantly the sense of freedom at least for me that's what made it the abundance and the sense
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of freedom that i was feeling from anything related to americans all the way to how americans speak
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and there's something that just feels very free you know in the tonality of it because you have to
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understand i learned british not american i only learned in when i came to america that i did not
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learn american i learned british so even between those two languages there is a sense of freedom going
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from one to the other so i think um that sense of freedom is is really very much what is the driver
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and this sense of anything is possible anything you're possible your background will won't stop you
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um your agenda won't stop you nothing will stop you literally and these stories of people who came in
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and they were dish doing dishwashing in the restaurants and all of a sudden next thing you know they have a
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chain of restaurants it's just like are you kidding me this doesn't happen in many other places it just
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doesn't so you found that those stories were true yeah do you still feel that way i still feel that way
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i still feel that way even with all of america's problem now does it mean that i am not worried
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that this country is um is am i worried but this country is
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losing you know what hang on hold that thought because i want to go now back to the problems that
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you found that as a kid you realize now why you didn't have all those things and then we'll come
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back to that question about america because i think people will understand your perspective on
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what you're finding about america today yeah uh after we go through what you found so yeah why why don't
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they have those things yes yes in africa yeah so the the so then from um the little girl's question
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of how come they have how come they have this and how come we don't the question eventually evolved
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with uh time okay and what the question became the question became much more precise and it became
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how come some countries like mine are poor while others like the u.s new zealand singapore
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those countries are rich why and along the journey i've heard so many things uh glenn as to why that
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was the case uh chief among colonialism well it's this is what this is this is a funny part glenn if
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uh i like to i like to use this because i will say people you can you can take a hundred people a
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hundred uh african people and line them up over here and take a hundred african people and line them
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up a non-african people and line them up over here ask them why is africa still the poorest region
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in the world africans and their so-called allies will come with their usual suspects are going to be
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oh uh colonialism slavery racism they're stealing the natural resources and all of that and then
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non-africans who don't even seem to care much they will come up with uh those guys low iq
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lazy always fighting each other um they come up with that and and both sides would both can i take
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and both sides would also say oh yeah and they're all corrupt and they have corrupt leaders bad
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governance and corrupt leaders you will hear all of that that's what those are your suspects keep that
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in mind now let's go back why you were poor why some countries are poor some countries are rich
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so i've heard all of those usual suspects as to why we were poor all of those from both sides okay i hear
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that and then it makes no sense most of this makes makes no sense because why because i'm looking around
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and thinking if any of this stuff was true how come my parents the same people the minute they leave
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senegal and they come in this case to you know france or despite everything i said about france they come
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to france they go to europe they get to self-actualize how come how come so i'm starting
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to think this has nothing to do with this the human being in this case but the only variable in this
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equation you just told me is the place that these people happen to be in or not so now i'm interested
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what's up with these places what's up with them and then at first of course i'm thinking of course it's
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because here they're rich of course it's going to happen and here they're poor that's why it's not
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going to happen but meanwhile guess what god is so good this way god is so good this way because
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you have to understand at some point in my life glenn through all of this through these years
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um for eventually i made it to the u.s after business school like i told you and i started out as a head
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hunter in finance in silicon valley in the heydays of a datcom boom you know working finding talent for
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google before google was a household name brand they had only one building and even within that building
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it was just like one you know like i think a few offices same with netflix same with netflix getting
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lost so many times going to the netflix offices because they were so tiny no one knew what these
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things would become so when i tell you that i've seen it close i've seen it close so anyway so so
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doing extremely well for myself extremely well for myself um glenn buying a home in one of the most
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expensive zip codes in america los altos hills so you cannot tell me that the american dream does not
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exist little gal my god could never have made it in under any other circumstances i am sorry and i
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stand by my words so anyway so this is all happening and eventually doing extremely well for myself and
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one day driving down big sir so happy so excited feeling such a sense of uh you know just achievement
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and all the gratitude that i was feeling for everybody who helped me on the journey any all the way from
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my grandma back home who no longer was with us to all these americans that have come my way to my french
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teachers to everybody that has come along the way because it takes it takes a village to make a person
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so thanking all of these people for all of these opportunities and my everything and eventually all
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of a sudden my mood turned dark as it would always do glenn when i felt that way
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what what has been my lot and when i tell people i am literally haunted
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it's because when you grow up with stories of people like you packing themselves into little
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little fishermen's boats to make the journey to another country so that they can help those of
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their families stay staying back home with a better life economic better life so but many of them
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don't make it because the boat tips over and they're at the bottom of the ocean right now
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serving as fish food when you grow up with stories like that and these are not strangers these are
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friends these are friends of friends these are family friends these are family and it's happening all
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the time to this day and actually it's accelerating that phenomenon and when people don't do that they
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get into planes trying to make it you know to europe somewhere above england a body drops because
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somebody thought it would be a good idea to to hide into the landing gears of a plane or you open the
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cargo section of a plane and there's a frozen body because somebody thought it would be a good idea to
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hide there but they didn't know the temperature goes so down up there and you die and when when they say
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those routes are too dangerous and they say they let's go land route when they go land route what
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happens to them they get stuck in libya where today glenn when that happens to someone like me
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you get sold literally as a slave yeah and your cost is between 300 and 500 dollars it took for
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cnn to to do a piece on it for the rest of the world to finally believe us and so would you not be
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haunted if like me these were the stories that you grew up with your whole entire life every single
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month there is one of those coming up okay so as soon as you would be in this mood of happiness
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this is what would happen the minute i was in such a a state of elation that's the next second i would
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be reminded of this and then of course it's like it's like having a form of depression almost right on
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the spot but that day as i was driving down big sur something happened that never happened before
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i think at that moment glenn um basically my body started to jerk around to so much that i almost
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the steering wheel almost you know took me down below to the ocean you know probably what i'm talking
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about big sur you know how steep it can be yeah oh yeah and anyway um and i stopped the car as soon
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as i could and you know in retrospective all i can think of is what they talk about they say that
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the mind has an amazing ability to make pretty much sense of anything including the worst that's how you
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could nazis can justify these actions we have that capability as humans but they say the body the body
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doesn't doesn't have that ability and in my case i would go further i would say that the soul and
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maybe that's a differentiation for me between the mind and the soul and the soul is much more
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connected to the body than to the mind and i think that day that day they separated that day the
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separation happened body slash soul said i am done with you mind trying to justify pretty much anything
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or accept pretty much anything you're on your own with that madness so literally two people in one body
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soul body here and mind over there and i had to and i think that separation is what caused the jerking
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around the body going so violent and i stopped the car and i got out i got out and got on my knees
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literally and i said god this is it this is it i i i i surrender because surrendering was the only thing i
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could do to alleviate the pain because what happened is the best thing you can do it is right surrendering
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and so i made a vow with god and i said look from here on i will show up and i want for every breath
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that i take to be to the service of africa of my people now mind you i don't know what to do i don't
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know what to do about this because my whole life what i've said to myself i would push it under the rug and i
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would say listen this problem was there before you it will probably be there long after you're gone
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please leave your life please try to have a successful life at your own level that still
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will be a great thing there is this is just just try to live your life but that day didn't work
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anymore i i just felt like maybe this is what i came here for i had to do more and i would never be
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left alone until i did more and once you realize that you're just like okay i get it i heard you now
00:26:50.460
okay but you're gonna have to show me the way god because i don't know what to do from here
00:26:53.300
and sure enough glenn everything started to happen everything so eventually i went back home
00:26:58.640
to senegal it's been four years since i haven't been back then because you know with my immigration
00:27:04.160
and everything you have to wait make sure your h1b everything gets through before you get out
00:27:08.440
otherwise you you know so anyway so i took my husband back then who was french to senegal and
00:27:13.120
to show him where i came from and everything and they're discovering that the hibiscus that i grew up
00:27:17.260
with has disappeared the women who used to grow the hibiscus to you know to make the beverage um
00:27:23.400
were losing their livelihoods leaving the countryside packing themselves into the cities becoming maids
00:27:28.480
treated really badly the cycle of poverty going on and meanwhile this beverage which is part of my
00:27:34.180
culture disappearing and i was just like you got to be kidding me so i was in shambles and eventually
00:27:41.220
remembered what my father would always say criticize by creating it's okay to have a problem
00:27:47.260
with the world but you have to offer alternatives you cannot just be in criticism mode and i got up
00:27:53.460
and i'm like okay i'm just going to start a company it's going to be bringing back this beverage we're
00:27:58.300
going to put women back to work by the time the undp did a case study on us we had put back to work
00:28:05.280
400 women and later 9 000 women and it was all happening came back to the u.s got myself a
00:28:11.840
business partner we went at it we did all of this but you know glenn the reason why i bring up this
00:28:15.740
story is it's in doing that that i got my answer why some countries are poor others are rich because
00:28:22.600
while i was doing that uh we had a sister company in the u.s and a sister company in senegal my home
00:28:28.200
country and just from the get-go back then it was in 2003 um we were setting up the the the the legal
00:28:36.460
entities in the u.s it was so fast we're talking less than a day back then we're talking maybe a
00:28:44.100
couple hundred dollars over there back then almost two years thousands of dollars thousands of dollars
00:28:51.120
opening a bank account you had to jump through all types of hoops over here 20 bucks you could open
00:28:55.400
a bank account you're on your way and then the labor laws the labor laws back home you married
00:29:00.060
your employees for good or for bad the minute you hire an employee first of all it's the state that
00:29:04.120
also has to agree that you can hire so and so and at which price and when you need to let them go
00:29:10.160
the state also has to approve that and it's at all levels the tax laws the tax laws are so complicated
00:29:16.980
that is worth truckloads of laws and regulations so much that you will make a mistake and making a
00:29:23.640
mistake means you're always subjecting yourself to being harassed and or imprisoned by the government
00:29:28.440
yep so so i'm comparing these two things and i'm like wow it is so easy to start and run a business
00:29:35.680
here in america and over here it is so hard and then my answer was again oh but of course americans
00:29:41.620
are rich that's why and america we're poor that's why just come to think wait a second you just said
00:29:46.340
poor wait a second you're poor because you don't have enough money uh at least not enough money to
00:29:51.940
take care of your basic needs you don't have money because you don't have a source of income
00:29:57.040
what is a source of income for most of us it is a job isn't it where do jobs come from it comes from
00:30:04.800
businesses the private sector oh but wait didn't you just tell me it is super hard over here to build
00:30:10.680
to run to start and run a business and here you told me it is super easy to start and run a business
00:30:15.940
connect the dots connect the dots connect the dots glenn now now it's all making sense to me
00:30:21.860
yeah if indeed jobs are what's needed for people to get an income income which act gets them out of
00:30:32.480
poverty yet you're telling me that in this place it's almost impossible to start a business wow and then
00:30:41.220
you look around and you start looking at all of these economic indexes the doing business index
00:30:46.480
um um of a world bank the heritage uh economic freedom index all of these indexes measuring how
00:30:53.080
hard or easy it is to start and run a business pretty much anywhere in the world and systematically
00:30:57.720
these indexes are showing what uh what as an entrepreneur i have been going through basically it
00:31:04.320
is harder to do business in almost anywhere in sub-saharan africa than it is anywhere in scandinavia
00:31:10.500
and i take scandinavia because even the most anti-business people among us bernie sanders i'm
00:31:15.640
talking to you uh like to use you know like to use like to use uh scandinavia as a model i'm like
00:31:24.380
because of course bernie sanders doesn't understand that scandinavian nations are more capitalist than
00:31:28.640
almost any sub-saharan african nations um yeah so there glenn i had it africa is the poorest region
00:31:36.420
in the world because it happens to be the most over-regulated region in the world it is a region
00:31:43.040
in the world that offers the least economic freedom to its entrepreneurs it means our entrepreneurs are
00:31:49.800
not free to enterprise and when entrepreneurs are not free to enterprise they cannot build the
00:31:54.540
companies that create the jobs jobs which provide the income income which takes somebody from poverty
00:31:59.960
to prosperity there you had it done and of course five only is it is it five percent of the businesses
00:32:07.580
in senegal are legal yeah yeah and it's uh and those numbers are pretty much the same uh all over
00:32:16.040
you know um sub-saharan africa except for four of them so so one of the problems that i've always
00:32:22.880
thought and i was so glad when i heard bono say this because he's been raising money for africa forever
00:32:27.180
and at one point he i think he was talking maybe at the london school of economics and he said and
00:32:32.440
they didn't like to hear this but he said you know aid is one thing but i think i've been wrong all these
00:32:39.500
years what they need is jobs and industry and they need a maybe a hand up but not a handout otherwise
00:32:49.380
we're just perpetuating this and i think of all the people that claim to love uh africa and want to
00:32:58.640
help i think most of the things they're doing is keeping africa down glenn let me say something right
00:33:07.920
there because i think um this correlation most people don't make obviously i'm a black person
00:33:15.440
i'm privileged to travel around the world i live not only in one place but a couple places
00:33:21.720
um i have you know i live in senegal as well as i live in the u.s because my business also is in
00:33:28.020
senegal we manufacture products there and we sell them in the u.s and um you see what i have noticed
00:33:35.780
it's always the same when you said the people who claim to love africa i will push it further down
00:33:40.920
in this case let me bring let me bring grace into this the people who claim to care about black
00:33:46.520
people systematically seem to be the self-proclaimed people and they always have the same mo with black
00:33:56.280
people and it is never about looking at us as fully capable people but it's almost like there must
00:34:06.720
be something inherently wrong with us that that which works with other people cannot work with us
00:34:13.080
let me let me make the the comparisons here for you for africa what do these self-proclaimed people
00:34:21.700
who care about africa what have they been promoting they have been promoting foreign aid
00:34:30.600
here in the u.s what have they been promoting welfare for the most part right and of course
00:34:41.920
that stuff is not working why because in both situations it is robbing us of our self-agency
00:34:51.300
as if we're not capable wow of doing as much or or more than others this and when you follow that
00:35:00.380
train of thought of course it's gonna it's gonna instruct everything else this is how you end up
00:35:05.240
with some women saying that two plus two equals four is racist and math is simply not something
00:35:12.780
that black people can handle therefore we have to dumb dumb math we have to we have to even erase
00:35:20.540
math if possible because that's the only circumstances under which they can thrive
00:35:24.500
you do the same thing to me when you are not seeing what economic freedom means
00:35:29.980
um so here what i'll do is just take a little um comparison again look glenn for anything in the
00:35:38.740
world to thrive whether it's for you as a human being or a tomato plant you're gonna plant or anything
00:35:43.620
i believe there are two things that are needed you need it needs to start with a good seed a good core
00:35:49.620
the seed for me is and the core for me is just that character and virtue and then it needs to be
00:35:57.100
implanted in the right soil with the right nutrients with the right uh sun exposure all of that good
00:36:04.480
stuff if you optimize those two you get the best tomato plant you can find in the world ever you find
00:36:13.220
the best person most productive healthy happy person you could find ever so let me let me wait wait let
00:36:20.700
me push back on you and to play devil's advocate here please um yeah but you you were born underprivileged
00:36:29.260
you don't you've never been exposed they've never been exposed to these things um you know they don't
00:36:36.760
know how the rest of the world work whatever the excuse is they'll say it it comes from oppression
00:36:43.860
being colonialized or colonized and uh uh and oppressed by people sold into slavery so you have
00:36:51.420
all these disadvantages that you can't make it on your own yeah so how do you respond to that
00:36:59.980
the answer that i would have to that is bullshit bullshit why bullshit let me explain right oh i love
00:37:09.860
you why why bullshit why because first of all even in the u.s how many millions of black outliers do you
00:37:17.600
have how many how many glenn how many and then you have those of us who come from from africa coming to
00:37:27.260
the u.s again look at how many if you want to take that premise i am starting to see that the outliers
00:37:34.600
are that many more than what you just what you just put on the table now the problem is they're the
00:37:42.120
most vocal ones and they have academia media and hollywood on their side which it's a big huge
00:37:51.600
megaphone so we live under this illusion that what they're saying is actually true and the only people
00:38:00.300
who are going to get screwed by it are the people who are actually willing and listening to them
00:38:05.800
and by the way it's not necessarily the white people who are going to suffer from this
00:38:09.340
but any black person who stakes their future on these narratives is going to be doomed
00:38:16.980
so i i was talking to uh james lindsey um who is an atheist um very very bright man and i said uh
00:38:27.040
james i i i've sworn off the word evil um but i i can't think of another word that fits this does an
00:38:35.660
atheist and he said well what what do you mean i said this whole philosophy is telling people because
00:38:43.700
of your race you can never make it without us and you know without without our little group here
00:38:53.660
that's going to plow all these people under and they're never going to let you uh buy i said you
00:39:01.620
are destroying people's um will their self-esteem their willingness and hopefulness of looking forward
00:39:12.140
and going i can do anything you're destroying it there there's no other word that fits other than
00:39:18.700
evil that's right and he said i think i agree with you it's evil what's happening that's right that's
00:39:25.260
right now evil is definitely happening but you know even if i say there is evil and this is me now push
00:39:34.700
doing devil's advocate on you yeah even then it might be evil but glenn in the end of it at the end
00:39:41.300
of the day this is what again i learned from grandma is they whoever whoever they is and sometimes they
00:39:48.060
is i don't know white people they can be another nation they whoever they is and whatever reason why
00:39:57.600
they supposedly do not want you to self-actualize um as optimally as possible my grandma would say you
00:40:06.400
know what and so who cares the minute you give them that power you're done so for me i am not even
00:40:17.040
willing to stop at the very evil because if you're stopping at the very evil it's still letting me off the
00:40:24.240
hook me this human being who has the choice or not right to hear that or not that is the i think
00:40:34.640
that's the thing about socialism is it tries to crush your your self-determination um so it can control
00:40:44.640
you and the minute the populist stands up and goes no i'm not giving it'll it in some cases it has been
00:40:53.440
very bloody for a very long time but as long as you have this business why i think they're they're
00:40:59.040
after religion so much of the time because when you have a belief in god you have this faith that
00:41:06.400
you know even if you plow me under it's all going to be for god's good and so i'm i know who i answer
00:41:12.320
to that's right um and they can't have that no so capitalism when done right when it's not crony
00:41:18.960
capitalism yes where it's not in bed with the government yes um that frees people and feeds
00:41:26.080
people and has changed the world and now it's getting such a bad name it is it is it is getting
00:41:33.440
such a bad name but um i think capitalism is getting more of a bad name in wealthy nations today than it is
00:41:42.000
for example in places like africa yeah do we have people especially the pan-africans who are anti
00:41:46.880
uh capitalism and this goes back to by the way uh the days of the african liberators um you know
00:41:54.560
so we do have people like that but africa is the youngest population in the world 19 years old one
00:42:00.400
nine and by 2050 one quarter of the world population will be african and unlike one way way way way way
00:42:08.480
you heard me right one one in every four people will be african yes yes wow no one is paying attention
00:42:15.520
at least definitely america is not paying attention and this is sometimes this is something that's
00:42:20.000
really to me it's mind-boggling um because think about it and the nice thing about this population
00:42:25.840
is unlike maybe what might be going on in latin america where there is a strong sense of identity
00:42:33.200
related to socialism for various reasons various reasons the african population the youth does not have
00:42:39.920
that baggage against capitalism per se they just wants to see a system that works for them as well
00:42:47.600
sadly for most of them the only businesses that they have seen work for the most part
00:42:52.400
is uh crony businesses my friend um you know would call it a capitalism but in this case
00:43:01.120
in this case um that's what they have seen happen but but what you have is this amazingly young
00:43:07.280
population who doesn't have preconceived you know um mental blockages against capitalism all they want
00:43:15.040
is for it to work they're not they want to have fridges they want to have cars they want to have
00:43:19.920
all of this all the things i talked about they want to have it okay so are this is this is like the
00:43:25.120
youngest population in the world and i see here so so far who has been dealing with us um the europeans
00:43:32.160
is primarily in my side of africa the french and what has been their relationship to us it has been
00:43:38.240
you leader corrupt leader i am going to work with you where in a way i protect your national boundaries
00:43:47.280
and um in exchange for your natural resources in the meantime in this deal the everyday ordinary african
00:43:56.000
what's in there for him to see nothing in that deal they don't exist russian slash chinese uh the chinese
00:44:03.600
chinese come and say uh you you um corrupted leader this is how i'm going to help i'm going to work with
00:44:11.040
you we're going to build the infrastructure with you so that your people don't rebel against you for the
00:44:16.560
time being in exchange your natural resources and by the way we give you the loans you pay us back and
00:44:22.800
we bring our own people to work on these projects so no jobs for the africans even the rice that they
00:44:28.560
eat is imported from china nothing not even a usb key stays on the ground so that's the chinese deal
00:44:34.800
what's in there for the uh ordinary african except for the road they get on or that bridge that maybe
00:44:40.320
it's going to collapse it's going to collapse 10 years from now because it was not done the right
00:44:43.360
way and many of us die on it but nobody's ever going to care not much for the ordinary african
00:44:48.160
and then the russian now comes comes in and the russians are like you uh corrupt leader how i'm
00:44:52.880
going to work with you is i'm going to be here to protect you your personal integrity against your
00:44:58.880
people and against your military and against your you know um secret defenses and all of that in
00:45:04.720
exchange your natural resources of course ordinary african sees nothing this is a place where i see
00:45:09.840
for america to say to show to show up and when i say america i mean the people of america to say guys
00:45:19.200
guys in this case meaning you ordinary africans we're going to go hand in hand together and with
00:45:24.400
the power of the free markets which means we're going to do business with one another we are going
00:45:30.160
to elevate each other together because that's what the markets do and then glenn imagine the opportunity
00:45:35.520
that we have here for this next generation one quarter of the population to all of a sudden
00:45:40.640
have a natural relationship to capitalism as you say done right have a natural healthy relationship to
00:45:48.160
it why because they experienced what it is and what it means and what it can do to their lives
00:45:53.920
this is the opportunity we have on the table right now that america is not taking we think it's all about
00:45:59.280
guns and and and you know that soft power right there we have a way of doing it and americans
00:46:04.880
who americans better than americans do does this that's what they've done for this country so we are
00:46:10.320
missing out on this and meanwhile right now our youth is becoming pretty much corrupt by uh russia
00:46:16.320
is the latest one to to come to the scene so that's something that i think americans have to think
00:46:20.960
about but instead of thinking about this glenn let me give you an example of what they're doing instead
00:46:24.960
so remember when we talked about the business environment being one of them uh african business
00:46:31.280
african countries having some of the most rotten business environments in the world which doesn't
00:46:34.960
allow their entrepreneurs to work well one of the solutions that i'm working on is what we call the
00:46:39.120
charter city the startup cities these are next generation special economic zones with their own
00:46:43.840
law their own governance when it comes to business so that straight at home i too get to benefit from a
00:46:50.480
world-class business environment from ever having to take my little feet and trying to migrate somewhere
00:46:55.840
else in the world to build my business and be successful i can do it straight from home and
00:47:00.720
achieve all of that from home do it surrounded by my family surrounded by my community surrounded by my
00:47:06.480
people surrounded by my land all of that do it in just like you get to do it in the us so here we are
00:47:13.360
doing these things but guess what right now something like that is happening in honduras on the island of
00:47:18.800
rory tan there is uh there is an initiative called prospera it's just that special economic zones so
00:47:25.760
honduras on its own is i think 130 or 142 i should know better and um on their own they're 130 or 142
00:47:34.000
under doing businesses record index ranking either way really bad ranking really bad but this zone on
00:47:41.920
its own guess which number it is glenn give me a number number 20 number nine top ten nine number nine
00:47:53.360
top ten and we're seeing the results companies are coming jobs are being created all of that good stuff
00:47:58.480
is happening but then guess what what did people like senator warren um cory bush and um bernie sanders
00:48:09.520
decide to do they decided to side with the government the current government of honduras which is known
00:48:15.600
to be in bed with the governments of cuba venezuela and china are those really the best actors we can
00:48:23.120
be dealing with so they're all in bed together especially especially not with business exactly
00:48:29.120
so now trying to push out this zone and expropriate american investments and elizabeth warren like i said
00:48:36.560
cory bush and um bernie sanders are helping while they're doing that while they're promoting the
00:48:43.200
expropriation of american businesses guess what they're using the imf arm to actually give a 900
00:48:52.960
million dollar package aid package to honduras so what are you doing when you're doing that you're
00:48:58.880
saying no to the businesses that will build the jobs that the hondurans need and by the way now connect
00:49:04.960
that to the immigration happening in the us we're all everybody here is fighting with one another
00:49:10.880
because of the immigration right there we have an opportunity for the people of honduras to be able
00:49:16.640
to stay home and build lives back at home in the most serene way possible and we're denying them that
00:49:25.760
right meanwhile financing promoting aid so these governments then you ask me what incentives do they
00:49:36.960
ever have to do the right thing but then you turn around and say oh they're corrupt well you're feeding
00:49:41.680
the corruption right there right so right so glenn uh what which is it gonna be because you can't have
00:49:49.840
it both ways but i guess in this situation i am starting to think that maybe elizabeth warren and
00:49:55.760
the left only not wants in the immigration uh going on they use us as political pawns that's the only
00:50:02.320
thing i can think of oh yes i mean it is you know the the idea some of the the most the most racist people
00:50:13.040
that i've ever seen in bulk um are those that are saying things like to save the planet we have to make
00:50:23.440
sure that africa uh doesn't build power plants who the hell are you to tell people anywhere that they can't
00:50:35.680
have cheap power cheap power is the first stepping stone no no no power is the first stepping stone
00:50:45.440
to being able to build your country and build business and become self-reliant and we are
00:50:52.800
we are crushing crushing not only our own country but the poorest countries in the world because
00:51:02.000
we say no you you can't you can't have that kind of power yeah we won't help you build that exactly
00:51:08.640
and um in addition it's a very good point and it's that's the only reason why i added um the anti-fossil
00:51:14.880
fuel zealots to my war because they're a huge threat to this development that we need because without power
00:51:22.720
like you said what what's going to run these businesses yeah but you know glenn this is even what
00:51:26.640
happens to africa if we get rid of fossil fuels we're dead we're dead we have a sacrificial lambs
00:51:34.480
on on this on in the story didn't you get the memo and so there's even worse than that glenn there's
00:51:41.200
worse than that every year every year on the african continent african continent alone because the
00:51:48.480
numbers get much bigger when you take the rest of the poor nations one to two million african women
00:51:53.760
are dying every single year due to indoor air pollution because these women don't have access
00:52:00.960
to clean burning fuels meanwhile right anti-fossil fuel zealots are telling them oh don't you want
00:52:08.240
these solar stoves we gave you come give me a break solar stoves that's the best you can that stuff
00:52:14.320
doesn't work you know it's it's laying around all over the place doesn't work these women don't want
00:52:18.640
it leave me alone so then they're telling them well too bad then because that's the only other thing
00:52:23.760
you allowed it's that and then women are like oh fine so i'm going to go back to burning my lungs
00:52:28.240
literally frying my lungs using biomass of different sorts and this is happening people don't
00:52:35.200
right now i know and people don't realize in in america 125 30 years ago the number one killer of
00:52:43.920
of women was not childbirth it was fire there you go it was fire because you were cooking indoors
00:52:52.160
that's right and nobody is nobody's willing to really look at these things that's right instead
00:52:58.320
they're they're pushing this narrative you know the black lives matter i don't think they do to those
00:53:04.320
people i don't i don't think black lives matter black lives matter those words i'm 100 on board with
00:53:13.040
but the organization of made especially of self-proclaimed marxist no they're it's a sham
00:53:21.200
it's a sham the crooks uh whatever you want to call it it is what it is how again when you go back to
00:53:28.320
whoever in this country or back um in africa by the way africa glenn is home to 90 of the
00:53:35.040
representatives of the black race and when you know that what africa needs the most right now to grow to
00:53:41.040
get out of poverty into power into out of poverty into prosperity is economic freedom meaning
00:53:45.600
capitalism free market capitalism and you being a marxist which is the opposite of it you can't
00:53:52.960
with a straight face tell me that you care about black lives you cannot tell me with a straight face
00:53:59.600
that the very force that africa as a continent where again 90 of the representatives of a black race
00:54:07.440
lives what it needs the most you are against yet you tell me that black lives matter no it doesn't
00:54:16.640
so so let's go back to a solution the the startup cities i mean i i for a while because i'm a big um
00:54:25.600
i'm a big fan of walt disney and i think if walt disney would have lived an extra 10 years the world
00:54:31.120
would have changed because he was working on ebcot which was not an amusement park it was a prototype
00:54:37.680
city of tomorrow and he was completely redesigning it uh in a way that would be much more independent
00:54:45.520
freer from uh many regulations um and the best ideas would would win um and you know i brought that to
00:54:56.080
uh texas that spirit to texas and even texas is just over regulated to where you can't just open up
00:55:04.640
a space and say let's just think freely here for a second forget everything else let's just think freely
00:55:14.000
is there a place in africa that that can be done where the government will protect it yeah so the good
00:55:21.360
news is we've been talking to six nations going on eight and i'm very confident um that very soon
00:55:27.120
we'll be able to announce one i was very close um a year ago i was very very close uh but then you know
00:55:34.240
government being what it is uh you have some things happening in um there's always something happening
00:55:39.120
in government as you know and a deal that was almost about to be signed um something just happens and
00:55:44.240
the everything gets thrown off track but um like i said i have six going on eight that i'm working
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with and um what i'm seeing is actually the excitement and that's what i'm really excited
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about really excited about um there are many little considerations that come into mind when we try to
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when we look at which country to go after right um ideally you're looking at a country where you have
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a leader that despite the the public figure that you know he or she gives to the rest of the world
00:56:14.240
this is somebody who um understands these these issues understands has some understanding of you
00:56:21.200
know how prosperity is built they may not have had the opportunity to build it because not maybe the
00:56:27.520
right team in place or whatever but they have it you're looking at people who have been um who still
00:56:32.640
have time on their mandate or mandates you are looking at the geography of the country itself ideally
00:56:39.120
you don't want landlocked but you can still do it with landlocked uh with some some some extra caveats
00:56:44.240
in there and then when you do that um then you start to look at the the constitution of that country
00:56:51.920
but you also need to look at the international treaties that they signed because for anybody who
00:56:56.160
understands anything about this um international treaties for the most part oftentimes supersede
00:57:01.120
even some parts of your constitution you know i think the europeans many european nations are seeing
00:57:05.360
that and there's also a big problem that's why probably um um some some some very specific
00:57:11.840
parties will be elected uh in june when the eu goes for elections you know people trying to elect um
00:57:19.360
representatives who are going to go back and renegotiate uh immigration laws within eu because
00:57:24.560
right now it's superseding uh country by country um immigration laws right so in any case so you have to
00:57:30.560
look at all of these parameters and then you also have to look at the lay of the land and kind of
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help them design a plan as to how we're going to do this some of these countries are going to have
00:57:40.080
in this zone to allow for common law to happen within the zone when the rest of the country is on civil
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law right and so that's that can be a pretty heavy undertaking as you can imagine right um yes so so
00:57:52.080
there's all of this type of work that needs to be done and as you can imagine at that level too there
00:57:56.880
is these extra forces happening with uh especially in the case of francophone nations there's always
00:58:02.320
these tensions that are happening with the hold that france might have on some of these nations
00:58:07.680
so finding ways to do this in a way that is not threatening to pretty much
00:58:12.240
anyone and that's why this is the the the the city is the model because what we do there really
00:58:19.120
is on a rather unoccupied plot of land where literally there is nothing because people decided
00:58:24.560
there is not there could be nothing um there's nothing to fight for over there and so what you
00:58:29.600
do is uh you always have to find a country where not you know in every of these countries where the
00:58:35.680
laws are so bad uh only the cronies for the most part can get to do business and i i don't when when
00:58:41.840
i say crony i want to be very careful here because you got to do with what you have right um
00:58:47.760
you have to do what you have it's not like these people woke up and said i want to be a cronies i'm
00:58:50.960
going to be a crony but you know you get started you start being shaken down you realize the only
00:58:54.880
way to stay in business is to you know get give into it you would prefer different ways but this
00:58:59.120
is what it is but anyway by the time you arrive uh some people are benefiting from the status quo
00:59:04.320
some people are benefiting from the status quo and they definitely do not want it to go anywhere so
00:59:08.880
you do not want to frighten those people under no circumstances ever because if you go to war with
00:59:13.600
them you will lose just the way it is so you don't go to war with them but what you do is um you go to the
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the next layer so we're talking about the cousins we're talking about the younger brother you know
00:59:26.160
those who are they're close enough to smell the goodies but they can't touch it because
00:59:32.880
the layer one already has it so if you have people like that who are close to the government
00:59:38.880
then this is where the magic can start to happen because you speak with them they get you uh contact
00:59:44.320
with in contact with the government you have all of these conversations and then this is going to be
00:59:48.640
actually the place that layer two gets to actually get some real work done so remember the the the
00:59:54.480
other the other layer of um people who are close to the government so and it's with them actually
01:00:01.040
that you work and usually uh layer one meaning um the people who are benefiting from the status quo right
01:00:06.720
now they have these big businesses whatever they don't see you as a threat because you're just there
01:00:10.880
and if nothing and and some of the ways you do this also is you have ways for them to have
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um for example you know there is the zone all the money that is going to build there is a part of
01:00:22.400
that um income that is going to go back to the the the normal government right to the to the to the to
01:00:29.520
the national government and you can have deals where for example um you know the money is going to go
01:00:36.400
through this bank that is very legitimate bank but it's owned by some of these people and you see so you
01:00:42.240
start to figure out how how are you going to make sure that everybody's interest is in a way together
01:00:48.960
because that's what i love about peaceful commerce if we're in the same freaking boat you're not going
01:00:52.560
to mess with me because you put the hole in the boat we all go down so instead of fighting instead of
01:00:57.200
fighting i think people have to really have a different mindset and first of all really look at the
01:01:01.280
people of the land and look at these government officials also as the heroes of the story they have been
01:01:06.800
used to being called all types of names but again glenn i guarantee you anything you want you know
01:01:12.000
a lot of these people many of them get into government uh to do good things and then they go
01:01:16.560
in and you know how it is you get the system corrupts you or it will tell you clear flat out you want to
01:01:22.320
be clean here you're going to be spat out because the antibodies like you cannot we can't keep them
01:01:26.560
here so anyway whatever for from whatever reason it is it ends up being the way it is so i think
01:01:31.840
what happens is you have to come with a clean with a clean and uh and different mindset where the
01:01:37.280
local people are going to have to be the heroes of a story where the people in government working
01:01:42.160
with you to make something like this happen have to become the the heroes of a story where you don't
01:01:47.280
look at the oligarchs on the ground as um de facto enemies but you try to understand how and where can we
01:01:54.480
honestly um legally join forces to make this thing work and these zones by the way the one we have we
01:02:01.600
negotiated a 50-year contract uh 50-year protection plan from the government signed in so meaning no
01:02:06.880
matter which government comes in they cannot really attack you in honduras they're trying but i think
01:02:11.200
they're finding that it has teeth so it has real teeth so if you take all of these parameters into
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account and you go in with a very different mindset then i think you really get to build something
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amazing and then all we need is one two three to be built and then the change happen because
01:02:25.680
everybody's going to emulate you rather than you know you trying to keep knocking more doors so that's
01:02:30.640
pretty much how i've been going at it as the co-founder of prosper africa working with a prosper
01:02:35.600
team which is one of the best in the world for this uh on our team we have a um ex chief strategy
01:02:40.960
officer of a dubai international financial center so amazing people like that but again what our team
01:02:46.720
has in check tell me tell me real quick what is what i know you are what what do you do because
01:02:53.760
your team is actually putting this into practice all you know so the world can come
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to africa yes yes we're doing it in my case especially in africa i am doing it so no child
01:03:07.360
because you have to remember glenn at the end of the day for me everything is personal i have vowed at
01:03:12.640
some point in my life that no child ever would have to be separated from her family because of economic
01:03:19.040
reasons i i've just it just it just it's just it's just a vow of my i could not i could not do it for
01:03:25.120
myself but if i can if i can have a say in it for other children you betcha you betcha so the reason
01:03:31.920
why i'm doing this is because i want for anyone at home who would like to build a life at home to be
01:03:39.040
able to build a life at home so we're creating these zones primarily so that africans no longer have to
01:03:46.720
migrate away from their countries the way they have to right now simply due to bad to bad um
01:03:53.120
business uh business business climates in their countries and beyond that of course uh the caveat to
01:03:58.800
this is because the laws are so i mean these business environments are so well designed um glenn
01:04:06.240
when you're thinking about the fact that you have you know law its own law and its own governance
01:04:11.200
when it comes to business also custom regulatory framework you're designing these zones so
01:04:16.560
that the regulatory cannot be um co-opted it cannot be captured and so i give you for people
01:04:23.920
listening to us i give an example it's almost like you know right now anybody in the us um starting an
01:04:29.200
llc or a company you know that you can incorporate it pretty much in any state you want regardless of
01:04:33.360
the state where you live right so that that that um right is what we call choice of law so most
01:04:40.160
companies especially most everybody in the us has it at least within the us and then globally globally
01:04:45.920
multinationals get to pick pretty much their choice of law from anywhere in the world so choice of
01:04:50.480
law is there we think it should be for everyone up and down this up and down the stream but in
01:04:55.280
addition to choice of law right uh regulatory choice you know choice of regulatory meaning that for
01:05:01.200
example if you're going to be a medical in the medical industry you need you should be able to get
01:05:05.680
to choose am i going to subject myself to the fda as a regulatory body or am i going to subject myself to
01:05:12.560
a to the oecd or any of the oecd countries because this is how you see sometimes
01:05:17.280
you need a treatment the fda says you can't have it here then people have to travel over to germany
01:05:22.080
so only those of us who can afford it go there to get a treatment that works you know so right here
01:05:27.520
on the zone you get to have also regulatory uh choice of regulatory it's rather amazing and that in
01:05:34.480
itself is is a such an amazing innovation and so game changing it's amazing so um and this along with
01:05:41.120
many other things like and also even property rights pushing it from where it is now to like
01:05:46.160
uh having a three dimension uh property rights model where you know property rights doesn't even
01:05:51.520
just have to be the superficie meaning like uh like this table here and height but also width like
01:05:57.280
meaning the view the view is already taken into account this is maybe too much for people to follow
01:06:02.080
in but for anybody who is into law and regulation here follow up if you want to have more details
01:06:07.200
but so what i'm saying here is that it is so amazing that um it promotes innovation first and
01:06:13.920
foremost so what's going to happen so now all of a sudden glenn imagine what's going to happen to me
01:06:18.240
as an african i go from being one of the least respected places in the world because we are the poorest
01:06:25.840
region in the world which by the way i think also fuels racism but anyway uh we go from that pathetic
01:06:32.160
state of affairs the rest of world doesn't even think people don't even think we could ever get
01:06:36.800
anywhere we go from that to leapfrogging into places where our people don't have to move anymore if
01:06:43.680
they don't want to because all about choice you want to go we want for immigration to become all of a
01:06:47.920
sudden we want for people to no longer immigrate because of hunger but because of taste that's
01:06:54.720
where we have to get to so now we got to that place and on top of that now the most amazing
01:07:00.880
innovative companies in the world in the most cutting-edge industries in the world choose
01:07:07.920
africa to go build their businesses because the because the business climate allows it and now we
01:07:14.400
go from being the last in the world to being we took the elevator and we're like on top that's what i
01:07:21.840
see glenn that's why i'm bullish on my on my continent because we know how to do this and we know how to
01:07:26.800
get there and it doesn't need too many people it's only one to five percent of the population that
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changes the world for good or for bad i find my people we go and we're going to get it done
01:07:36.560
margot you are a delight thank you so much the name of her book is uh the heart of a cheetah
01:07:44.160
and i i think you can see that uh in you the heart of the cheetah margot wade thank you thank you
01:07:59.840
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