The Glenn Beck Program - October 05, 2024


Ep 230 ｜ Why Homesteaders Aren’t Panicked About Empty Shelves ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour

Words per Minute

154.58577

Word Count

9,400

Sentence Count

703

Misogynist Sentences

17

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

If you thought that every member of Generation Z would be clamoring for life in the metaverse, it's probably surprising you haven't seen the uptick in online videos of 20-somethings churning their own butter, raising chickens, and planting tomatoes like they were characters in Little House on the Prairie. My next guest says young people are running, not walking, back to the ways of their great-grandparents the way they used to live. The question is, why? What is the appeal of farm life for these digital natives? What are they looking for in these traditional lifestyles? Joining me is a Gen Z homesteader who is pointing the way for her generation to a new future that looks an awful lot like the past.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 And now, a Blaze Media Podcast.
00:00:04.280 If you thought that every member of Generation Z would be clamoring for life in the metaverse,
00:00:11.340 it probably surprised you to see the uptick in online videos of 20-somethings churning their own butter,
00:00:18.700 raising chickens, planting tomatoes like they were characters in Little House on the Prairie.
00:00:23.080 My next guest says young people are running, not walking, back to the ways of their great-grandparents the way they used to live.
00:00:33.380 The question is, why? What is the appeal of farm life for these digital natives?
00:00:40.000 What are they looking for in these traditional lifestyles?
00:00:43.500 Joining me is a Gen Z homesteader who is pointing the way for her generation to a new future that looks an awful lot like the past.
00:00:54.060 Welcome to today's podcast, Gubba from Gubba's Homestead.
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00:01:55.440 Gabba, welcome to the program.
00:02:11.980 Hi, thank you so much.
00:02:14.120 Thank you for having me.
00:02:15.140 You're welcome.
00:02:16.080 First, I have to ask you, Gabba, how did that name come about?
00:02:21.120 I'm imagining it's not your birth name.
00:02:24.160 So how did you get Gabba?
00:02:26.820 So, I mean, you could say it's my birth name because I have been called Gabba ever since I was little.
00:02:33.280 I would say it's like a family name that's been passed down.
00:02:36.060 Yes, it's been a family name.
00:02:38.020 I know that it was within my mom's family.
00:02:41.200 Someone had the nickname Gabba.
00:02:42.860 So I got named Gabba.
00:02:45.080 So I find you and people like you fascinating.
00:02:52.160 You know, I have changed so much in the last 20 or 30 years.
00:02:58.700 You know, I was all for, you know, better living through pharmaceuticals and, you know, and, you know, the mass production of food and all of this stuff.
00:03:07.840 And I have come to, honestly, I grew up in Seattle where all of my crunchy hippie friends were.
00:03:17.360 And there is something happening.
00:03:20.700 I think our food is killing us.
00:03:23.100 I think our pharmaceuticals are killing us or at least addicting us to always having problems and having to go to the pharmaceutical companies.
00:03:31.480 And now this is becoming a big deal with conservatives and young people as well.
00:03:40.980 You're 23, right?
00:03:43.000 Yes.
00:03:44.660 So how did you, have you always been like this?
00:03:47.960 Because you live in Seattle area, right?
00:03:50.860 Yes, I do.
00:03:52.400 And no, I have not always been like this.
00:03:54.560 So I relate to you in the sense I was eating the ultra processed food that has been chemically modified to keep us addicted.
00:04:03.420 I was on the pharmaceuticals.
00:04:05.520 I was vegetarian for a while.
00:04:07.280 So I was really in that matrix.
00:04:09.240 I lived in Portland for a while.
00:04:11.380 It was really.
00:04:12.940 Yes, I did.
00:04:14.580 And so I absolutely relate to where you are coming from because I found myself walking outside of that matrix.
00:04:22.240 And now I am homesteading and I am connected with my food.
00:04:26.220 I'm disconnecting from big pharma and really see what is going on and how we're being poisoned.
00:04:35.640 So how far down this rabbit hole are you?
00:04:39.680 I mean, do you churn your own butter?
00:04:43.600 Yes, I do.
00:04:44.500 I do make my own butter.
00:04:45.500 It's actually a super easy process.
00:04:47.340 So, yeah, I do churn my own butter.
00:04:49.660 Wow.
00:04:50.620 It's super easy?
00:04:52.240 Yeah, it is.
00:04:53.500 You just get heavy cream and you just you can either shake it in a bottle.
00:04:57.460 That's an old fashioned way.
00:04:59.120 You can churn it.
00:05:00.060 Or if you have a KitchenAid, you can just mix it until the buttermilk and the butter separates.
00:05:05.460 It's so easy.
00:05:07.540 Huh.
00:05:09.460 Is there anything that I mean, you have a washer and dryer, right?
00:05:13.880 Yes, I do.
00:05:15.060 Yeah.
00:05:15.260 OK, good, good, good.
00:05:16.220 How far down this road did you think you were going to go?
00:05:25.040 And how far down this road are you?
00:05:27.320 Like, what are the modern conveniences that you just don't use or do?
00:05:32.240 You know, I would say I am pretty far down the road.
00:05:36.860 So I am set up to be off grid if that is a scenario that comes up.
00:05:43.540 So I have my washer and dryer, but I also have a line outside that I can dry my clothes.
00:05:49.600 I have the ability to wash my clothes without a washer.
00:05:52.700 So I am set up to live without these modern conveniences, but I still enjoy them, if that.
00:05:59.480 Right.
00:06:00.420 Yeah, the best of both worlds.
00:06:04.640 Well, who are just like, I'm going to live off grid and everything else.
00:06:08.040 But then there are also influencers.
00:06:10.320 And you're like, well, but, you know, back in the 1800s, they didn't have the Internet.
00:06:16.140 So there's kind of a clash there.
00:06:18.960 Yeah.
00:06:19.940 Yeah.
00:06:20.500 Yeah.
00:06:20.720 So, so what first turned you on to this lifestyle?
00:06:26.960 Why, why did you make this turn?
00:06:31.100 Well, four years ago, when we had COVID, the pandemic that erupted, going to the grocery store.
00:06:39.320 I'm not sure if you had this experience, but seeing the empty grocery store shelves, the fridges were barren.
00:06:46.460 The freezers were barren.
00:06:47.600 And people were going crazy, fighting over bags of dried beans.
00:06:52.260 And I still remember staring at those empty shelves.
00:06:55.720 And I said, what am I doing here?
00:06:58.200 I am relying on a system that breaks so easily.
00:07:02.620 I have become dependent on this unreliable system.
00:07:06.200 And I said, I am never going to find myself in this situation ever again.
00:07:11.760 So that's what really spurred me.
00:07:13.800 And I think started to really awaken a lot of other people was COVID and seeing, hey, our food system is not reliable.
00:07:23.020 I sat down with the president of Toyota Global, and I asked him right at the beginning of COVID, can you explain the just in time production line, the way we build things?
00:07:46.540 And it started with, you know, we don't want to have a warehouse.
00:07:50.700 We don't want to have to pay for a warehouse.
00:07:52.320 And he told me that the seats, let's say they're made in China, but they're assembled in America.
00:07:59.060 He said, the seats don't arrive until 12 minutes before they're installed in the car.
00:08:07.780 So they're taken off the truck.
00:08:10.040 And I said, who thought this was reasonable that this would never break down?
00:08:16.980 And he said, well, it didn't.
00:08:19.380 And so he said, we were kind of trapped in it then.
00:08:22.720 I mean, people don't understand if there's war, 19 out of the 20 or 21 biggest pharmaceuticals or medicine that we get, we get from China.
00:08:37.580 We can't even make it anymore.
00:08:40.440 That's not smart.
00:08:41.900 No, it's not smart.
00:08:45.180 And I feel like people are having that realization, especially with the pharmaceuticals, thinking about, okay, if the system fails, how am I going to survive?
00:08:53.840 I don't have the medicine or I don't have my food storage.
00:08:57.220 So that's been a big part for me is the food system, watching that break down.
00:09:03.280 So is this for, I mean, do you have to have a lot of land to do this?
00:09:09.540 No.
00:09:09.940 So homesteading, and I talk about this so much online, homesteading is a mentality.
00:09:15.900 Homesteading is a lifestyle.
00:09:17.600 You do not need land to homestead.
00:09:20.280 You do not need land to become self-sufficient.
00:09:23.660 The best place to start doing this is in your kitchen, cooking from scratch, having a little window cell garden, and learning these skills, like how to build a food story, how to preserve food.
00:09:37.460 You don't need land to do that.
00:09:38.980 Yeah.
00:09:39.940 I have to tell you, the image of what is behind you, A, it is beautiful.
00:09:46.280 I'm a visual guy.
00:09:48.120 It is absolutely beautiful behind you.
00:09:50.960 But it also reminds me of my grandmother.
00:09:53.660 Probably would have been your great-grandmother now.
00:09:56.200 But, you know, they did these things.
00:09:58.820 My mom did these things.
00:10:00.220 They canned.
00:10:00.940 And, you know, it was just normal in my family that you would put, you know, you'd go and pick the vegetables, you'd grow everything, and then you spent the summer canning it.
00:10:12.220 And so you had food for the rest of the year.
00:10:14.240 That was, according to my grandmother, what saved them during the Great Depression.
00:10:20.520 Yeah, absolutely.
00:10:23.480 And this is an inspiration from my great-grandma.
00:10:26.580 The stories that passed down, the same thing.
00:10:28.540 They grew all summer, had to preserve through the winter to feed her family of 12.
00:10:34.180 And I think about this a lot.
00:10:35.840 There's this wisdom in this generation.
00:10:38.840 So my great-grandparents, your grandparents.
00:10:41.620 And then we had these generations of convenience.
00:10:44.420 And now you have this younger generation that is trying to bridge the gap because they're seeing the system collapse.
00:10:49.660 I'm seeing the system collapse.
00:10:51.120 And so now we're trying to get that wisdom of how to live self-sufficient again.
00:10:56.900 Yeah.
00:10:58.500 It's not just that we're seeing it collapse.
00:11:04.260 I think we're seeing the real bad fruits of this tree starting to take root.
00:11:13.660 We're beginning to look at things entirely different.
00:11:18.620 I mean, I think this is the biggest change of attitudes and perception in my lifetime.
00:11:27.680 And I've seen a lot in my lifetime.
00:11:32.680 Go ahead.
00:11:34.180 Oh, I was going to say that absolutely makes sense.
00:11:36.260 And that goes back to what you were saying of how you used to rely on Big Pharma.
00:11:40.240 I did too.
00:11:41.480 I ate the processed food and now I'm waking up like, hey, I'm kind of seeing the bad fruits of what's going on.
00:11:47.920 This food isn't good for me.
00:11:49.180 These big pharmaceuticals aren't good for me.
00:11:51.660 That's what I was thinking when you were relaying that.
00:11:54.820 So what do you have aligned?
00:11:57.800 First of all, when it comes to food, what differences have you seen in yourself and others around you who are eating like this?
00:12:06.620 So what I understand is you're asking like eating a more homestead, like cook from scratch kind of lifestyle.
00:12:16.400 Well, I've noticed I have lessened my dependence on the grocery store because I'm not going there to get the ultra processed foods.
00:12:25.260 I'm paying attention to what is going into my body.
00:12:28.000 And because of that, I feel good.
00:12:29.660 Because of that, I look good.
00:12:32.060 Before I started to integrate these ways of life, like cooking from scratch, being aware of what is going into my body, I struggled with anxiety.
00:12:41.660 I had acne.
00:12:42.800 My hair was thin and falling out.
00:12:45.500 And now I feel good.
00:12:47.540 And now I'm looking good.
00:12:49.340 And I know that's from what I'm nourishing my body.
00:12:51.460 I know that's from how I've changed my lifestyle.
00:12:53.800 I've turned off outside sources that were causing me stress and negativity and just brought it home.
00:13:02.020 So you must not have ever listened to me in the last four years.
00:13:06.220 I have, actually.
00:13:07.460 I have.
00:13:08.000 You pop up.
00:13:08.580 Really?
00:13:09.660 Yes, you do.
00:13:10.920 Wow.
00:13:11.440 Wow.
00:13:11.800 I would think that would make your hair fall out because it's made mine fall out.
00:13:16.180 It's good to be aware, but also keep your peace.
00:13:19.240 Yeah.
00:13:19.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:13:20.840 Um, so when it comes to pharmaceuticals, where is your line?
00:13:26.180 Uh, I mean, you know, there's, there's some things that would be good to get rid of some things that are causing us problems, but then there's things like antibiotics.
00:13:36.720 So I, my line is, if you think of, if I got a cold, I will make my old, my own cold medicine.
00:13:44.620 So if I have a cough, I'm putting onion in honey and making my own cough syrup.
00:13:49.280 I don't do anything over the counter.
00:13:52.140 I really utilize herbs and essential oils.
00:13:56.360 And, but I do agree.
00:13:57.440 Everything has a place.
00:13:59.860 And when it comes to pharmaceuticals, I think it's going to just be up to you and your body and what you feel comfortable with.
00:14:08.240 And like you're saying with antibiotics, if someone feels that is their need, then I'm all for it.
00:14:15.420 That that's where my, but I mean, so if you got a, if you have a really bad infection, let's say you cut yourself and you're infected and you need to have antibiotics.
00:14:27.320 Antibiotics, would you use them?
00:14:29.400 You.
00:14:31.340 So if, would I use antibiotics?
00:14:35.340 I guess if it was a thing, life or death.
00:14:38.780 Yeah.
00:14:39.100 I'm more focused on why am I getting that infection?
00:14:41.860 What is going on in my body that is going to make it so I am getting sick?
00:14:46.380 I'm very terrain based in keeping my.
00:14:49.600 What does that mean?
00:14:50.660 It means like my, I'm nourishing with proper minerals and vitamins.
00:14:56.200 I'm getting sunshine.
00:14:58.140 I'm getting my vitamin D.
00:15:00.120 I am properly keeping myself stress free.
00:15:04.140 So I don't have negativity in my life that is bringing me down energetically.
00:15:09.680 So I am keeping myself healthy.
00:15:12.920 I am keeping my terrain in a regulated environment.
00:15:17.880 And so I really look at the source of why I am getting sick.
00:15:24.100 I haven't been sick in over two years now.
00:15:27.600 And that's why when you're saying if I got cut and got an infection, I would be concerned of like what's going on in my body that caused that.
00:15:35.600 You know, I, I have a ranch.
00:15:38.360 I'm at my ranch now up in Idaho and I also live down in Dallas, Texas.
00:15:43.460 Uh, and I'm leaving, uh, the ranch and going back home to Dallas.
00:15:50.560 And I just feel better up here.
00:15:54.400 Um, mentally it's a huge difference when you're in a small town and people are connected to the land.
00:16:01.680 I love living around farmers.
00:16:03.400 I mean, you know, when we first started looking for a place up in the mountains, everybody said, oh, you should go to Jackson Hole or you should.
00:16:09.820 No, no, that's New York with a mountain.
00:16:14.500 Uh, you know, living by farmers.
00:16:18.780 I have discovered what I rejected when I was a kid.
00:16:22.840 I couldn't wait to get away from the small town.
00:16:25.800 Um, farmers understand that you can do everything that you can do and then you have to rely on God.
00:16:34.040 And if your crop fails, you have to rely on your neighbors and you want to take care of your neighbors because if they're having a hard time, you're going to have a hard time at some point.
00:16:46.180 And so you, you take care of each other.
00:16:50.040 You don't have to talk, uh, uh, you know, about and be so stressed about, oh, I got to have the talk with my kids.
00:16:57.520 My kids, you know, it starts with why is that, uh, animal on top of the back of that animal?
00:17:05.840 You know, it all, everything seems to make sense and your stress level goes way down.
00:17:14.160 Yeah, absolutely.
00:17:15.320 Everything you just said with integrating community and relying on God, I experienced those things every day.
00:17:23.120 So while it can be stressful with animals getting out, fencing, breaking down, I have that peace and I have that sense of community.
00:17:31.640 And that even reminds me yesterday, I went to an organic apple orchard, a local apple orchard.
00:17:37.660 I'm very, a big proponent of, um, supporting local.
00:17:42.140 And so I went to this apple orchard, these apples, and I met with the orchard owner owner who was in his eighties and he bestowed all this wisdom on me on how to keep an organic apple orchard because that's what I want to do.
00:17:54.860 And just thinking about how there's this wisdom out there in your community, you just have to find it.
00:18:00.660 You just want to go out and seek it.
00:18:02.940 Yeah.
00:18:03.940 And it's, it's amazing how it's lost.
00:18:07.940 Um, you know, I, I have a, uh, I have a car, uh, it's a, it's an old 1970s Jeep, uh, you know, an old Willie.
00:18:17.460 Um, and I cannot keep this thing running and nobody knows why, I mean, you can't plug it into a computer and literally everybody's like, I don't know.
00:18:31.520 I mean, I had to go find an old guy who still was working on these cars that when we lose this knowledge, it's gone and we'd have to learn it all over again.
00:18:43.440 That's not a good, good thing to do.
00:18:46.200 No, it's not.
00:18:47.320 And you're saying learn it all over again, but would we be able to learn it all over again?
00:18:51.360 That's my question.
00:18:52.880 Or is the knowledge just forever with this generation?
00:18:56.660 Yeah.
00:18:57.500 Um, so what do you rely on for electricity?
00:19:01.500 I just have normal grid electric.
00:19:04.800 So I do have generators if power goes out for certain things, but I'm on the grid.
00:19:10.640 Are you one, do you want to change that?
00:19:15.200 You know, I am happy with my setup right now, but I am very focused on if power goes down and if power goes down for a long time and unforeseeable time, I am still prepared and I can operate pretty much normally.
00:19:31.480 Hmm.
00:19:32.000 Okay.
00:19:32.820 Um, so.
00:19:35.460 You know, five years ago, 10 years ago, you would have been a complete oddball.
00:19:40.640 Um, but now with the, you know, people your age, you're what, about 24, um, are you're not an oddball anymore?
00:19:50.880 Are you?
00:19:51.400 I wouldn't say so.
00:19:54.080 I feel like I started homesteading, like you said, four or five years ago and it was like, Oh, like what's she doing?
00:20:00.260 Building a food storage.
00:20:01.680 That's kind of crazy.
00:20:02.660 Like you're really, you're a hoarder.
00:20:04.540 Yeah.
00:20:05.020 But I started to share online and I've seen this trend of homesteading really rise because people are wanting to reconnect with those roots.
00:20:13.360 They're wanting to become self-sufficient and it isn't such an oddball scenario anymore because people are looking around and saying, Hey, I need to get ready.
00:20:22.280 Yeah.
00:20:22.500 What, what, um, what is the define homesteading?
00:20:27.000 What does that mean exactly?
00:20:29.340 So when I say, or when I think of homesteading, I'm thinking of self-sufficiency, but also having a community.
00:20:37.880 So like when I'm talking about, I can operate, if the electricity goes down, I can still wash my clothes.
00:20:45.420 I can still feed my family.
00:20:47.900 I can still cook.
00:20:48.740 So you're self-sufficient.
00:20:50.120 You are living in tune with your community.
00:20:53.260 You're supporting your neighbors.
00:20:54.680 Like you had mentioned earlier, that's what I think of homesteading.
00:20:58.020 It's really a lifestyle that you can have from anywhere and a mentality.
00:21:02.100 I will tell you, you know, I, I, so I live in a town of, uh, about 450 people.
00:21:13.060 Um, and we're good 45 minutes away from any, you know, real store, you know, any chain.
00:21:19.880 Um, and we have all talked about who has what, who has what skill, who has, you know, uh, you
00:21:31.240 know, expertise in this, or has this piece of, of equipment, uh, the town just built a communal
00:21:38.860 smokehouse, uh, and nobody knew how to build it or anything, but we're starting to think
00:21:46.560 we're taking your idea probably a little further and saying as a town, how can we come together
00:21:55.420 and share what we need to share to be able to get through tough times?
00:21:59.500 There's a town, uh, probably 20 minutes from here that everybody has a job, uh, to make
00:22:07.420 pizza.
00:22:09.240 Somebody is growing the wheat.
00:22:11.300 Somebody is learning how to grind it.
00:22:13.320 Somebody is growing tomatoes there.
00:22:16.700 Somebody has the oven.
00:22:18.180 And so this town of about 1200 people, they know they can survive with each other because
00:22:26.020 everybody has a skill that can give them some sort of food.
00:22:29.880 It's an amazing thing.
00:22:32.180 Yes, it is.
00:22:33.120 And I feel like that's in our human nature.
00:22:36.100 I don't think humans were meant to sit in cubicles under artificial lighting in the cities.
00:22:40.720 We were meant to have these communities, like you're saying, and I've done that here on a
00:22:45.120 smaller scale with my neighbors where we've met together and we've talked about skills and
00:22:49.520 plans.
00:22:50.360 If there's ever an emergency situation that arises, that's what I advocate for.
00:22:55.100 That's the dream.
00:22:56.940 Yeah.
00:22:57.780 Um, so you said that you felt like you were living in the matrix and the matrix imprisoned
00:23:03.640 you.
00:23:04.180 Can you explain that and tell me why you felt that way?
00:23:08.300 And so when I am talking about the matrix, a good example is the food that we are eating.
00:23:14.320 If you go and look at a loaf of bread in the store, you're going to see on there created
00:23:20.300 with bioengineered ingredients and a long list of ingredients, 20 plus ingredients that you
00:23:25.320 can't pronounce.
00:23:25.880 And you're like, man, what's going on to my body right now?
00:23:30.140 Or you turn, tune on the, turn on the TV and you're watching this media that is maybe warping
00:23:36.320 your mind one way or the other.
00:23:38.240 You're, you're being put into a position of being controlled.
00:23:42.920 Also, when I speak of the matrix, I'm talking about the environment that you're living in.
00:23:48.740 It goes back to Roman times, right?
00:23:51.780 When they put on the big Coliseum events, kept the people entertained while all this stuff
00:23:58.260 was going on in the background, society collapsing.
00:24:01.580 Yeah.
00:24:01.820 So that's what I'm talking about.
00:24:03.780 I don't want to be at the Coliseum.
00:24:05.100 I want to know what's going on and prepare for it.
00:24:08.020 And I'm very happy in doing that.
00:24:11.120 You know, it's, it's weird.
00:24:12.460 Um, companies, uh, when you hit about 120 people, you, uh, the company shifts because
00:24:22.100 now you, people are not equipped, uh, mentally and just biologically.
00:24:31.220 We are not equipped to have relationships with more than, uh, you know, as for your individual
00:24:39.440 for more than like about 20 or 30 and as a community, about 150 relationships and anything
00:24:46.420 over that, it just, it all just falls apart.
00:24:50.000 Um, and you can see companies as they grow, um, and you can see companies as they grow, they
00:24:54.100 will grow past 120 or 150.
00:24:57.220 And some of them survive that some of them don't.
00:25:00.820 Um, there is something with a social media, overwhelming people with friends.
00:25:09.440 You're not built to care and to, uh, be able to balance that kind of a friendship circle.
00:25:19.500 You're just not, how do you, how do you balance that?
00:25:24.460 So balance, are you asking like how I balance having connection with so many people online?
00:25:32.040 Yeah.
00:25:32.060 And when your thoughts of keeping your circle tighter, uh, then so universal.
00:25:40.320 Yeah.
00:25:40.960 So I do, do have an immediate tight circle and I'm very comfortable in that.
00:25:46.040 I'm very, I feel like this stems from being comfortable within myself.
00:25:50.280 I don't need a lot of friends to feel comfortable being out and about.
00:25:55.280 I'm very happy being an introverted, but when it comes to being online, I feel like I've been
00:26:01.040 online for a while and I have been able to build a connection with a lot of people.
00:26:08.220 So I do see that where it says you can't have a connection with over 120 people.
00:26:13.100 But I think on a broader scale, if you are presenting your genuine self and you want to
00:26:19.080 help people, you can create a connection.
00:26:20.720 I feel like you've created a connection with a lot of people.
00:26:23.580 So I, yeah, but I think it's, it's different.
00:26:25.480 Like I don't, um, and it's so easy to fall into this.
00:26:29.480 I don't read, uh, comments generally.
00:26:33.760 Um, especially if they're negative.
00:26:36.440 Um, I, I, I am not living for the next like, you know, I'm just being me.
00:26:43.120 And if you can grab something from that, that's great.
00:26:45.800 And if I can grab something from you, that's great, but it's not, it's not the number of
00:26:51.420 people you interact with.
00:26:52.760 It's how you view, these are not friends.
00:26:56.640 You know what I mean?
00:26:57.900 These are people that you're just connecting with outside of the world.
00:27:01.200 And when you, when you lose sight of what real friends are and your inner circle, you
00:27:07.540 don't make it.
00:27:09.180 Yeah, that is very true.
00:27:11.000 And I think that is a good line to draw and with the boom of social media, I feel like
00:27:16.720 that line, like you're saying has been blurred.
00:27:18.780 Like what's a friend, where's my real connections, but yeah, for me online, I do like to respond
00:27:26.240 to those comments.
00:27:27.040 I do like to forge connections and just help people in that sense.
00:27:32.100 But I also do avoid the negativity, but I am aware of what's real and what's not for
00:27:38.140 me.
00:27:38.320 So how much of this is that, that, you know, there's nothing real anymore.
00:27:45.040 We're questioning absolutely everything.
00:27:49.200 And when you are, when you're growing it yourself, when you're, you know, you know, canning it
00:27:56.540 yourself, when you're actually, I mean, I, I really believe that, you know, idle hands is
00:28:03.400 the devil's, uh, playground.
00:28:05.280 Uh, I really believe there is something to hard physical work that, um, just changes you.
00:28:14.740 It is very important.
00:28:16.960 Uh, and we've missed a lot of that.
00:28:19.840 Um, and, and when you are doing that, you're working with your hands, you're working, especially
00:28:25.220 with the soil or, or what you consume, um, you, you know, what's real.
00:28:32.420 It's hard to explain.
00:28:34.040 Have you, have you felt that way that you don't have a problem with reality?
00:28:37.960 Yeah, no, absolutely.
00:28:40.840 And I feel like what you're saying with feeling what's real.
00:28:44.440 I pictured when every day I go out and milk my goats.
00:28:47.800 And so I have this picture, this connection to the milk that I drink.
00:28:51.860 Whereas if you go to the grocery store and you just pick up a jug of milk, you don't know
00:28:56.520 the animal that it came from.
00:28:57.780 You don't know the farm that it came from, what the state of those animals were.
00:29:02.320 So you do have this mental sense of reality and also this physical sense of reality.
00:29:08.740 So that is what I am thinking.
00:29:10.820 It has been really mentally uplifting, physically uplifting.
00:29:14.780 You know, you're solving these tasks in your head and then you're mentally and physically
00:29:18.980 going to do them.
00:29:20.800 So I don't drink a lot of milk, um, but my kids do.
00:29:24.460 And, um, talk to me about raw milk because, you know, I grew up, it's got to be homogenized.
00:29:32.220 And the way the government is taking down the Amish is absolutely incredible to me.
00:29:37.720 Uh, people that have never had a problem, nobody they serve has ever gotten sick from their
00:29:43.900 food, but the government has got to stop these Amish people.
00:29:48.180 Tell me what the deal is with raw milk and why it's so much better for you.
00:29:56.640 Well, so raw milk, and this is such a loaded question, but I love it.
00:30:01.400 I love raw milk.
00:30:02.580 So let's start raw milk and the pasteurizing movement that I view it was a real disconnect
00:30:10.080 from people and their farmer.
00:30:12.580 So just like what I was saying, I can go and get milk, raw milk from my farmer.
00:30:17.140 I see the cows in the field.
00:30:18.840 I know the practices that they are using to get the raw milk.
00:30:22.720 They have a clean environment.
00:30:24.500 But now when you go to the store again, you don't know that you don't see the animals.
00:30:28.340 Most likely these animals are in diseased conditions and then they pasteurize it because
00:30:32.760 you don't want milk from a diseased animal.
00:30:35.580 So they pasteurize it, get rid of all the gunk, and then they serve that to you at the store.
00:30:39.480 So we've lost that connection.
00:30:41.520 And then also the big dairy industry is such a huge cash cow, literally.
00:30:48.360 So you have this disconnect.
00:30:50.820 Except local dairies.
00:30:51.760 Local dairies are in trouble.
00:30:55.520 That's true.
00:30:56.900 Yeah.
00:30:57.120 That's true.
00:30:57.740 Okay.
00:30:58.000 What's interesting is I have, where I'm at is farmland and it used to be dairies everywhere.
00:31:04.820 And I talked with an old farmer and I'm like, hey, what happened?
00:31:07.120 And because it's very dilapidated now, all the dairies got taken out.
00:31:10.520 And he spoke about how the government came in and started offering incentives and they
00:31:16.260 just took out the dairy industry and they took it to this big mainstream big dairy.
00:31:22.540 So we have this disconnect from our farmer.
00:31:25.380 And I feel like when they start disconnecting us from our local farmers, we then depend on
00:31:30.680 this big system.
00:31:31.760 And we see them fail like we saw four years ago.
00:31:35.880 Also, raw milk, it has all these vitamins, minerals, fats.
00:31:42.280 And when you pasteurize it, the enzymes and the carrier proteins are wiped out.
00:31:48.480 So when you have the pasteurized milk, you may still have the vitamins and minerals in it,
00:31:52.640 but your body can't absorb them.
00:31:54.480 Your body doesn't know what to do with them because they don't have the carrier protein.
00:31:57.500 They don't have the enzyme.
00:31:58.280 So then your intestines are like, oh, I'm actually going to have a reaction.
00:32:03.300 We're now going to be lactose intolerant and you're going to get sick every time you drink
00:32:06.700 pasteurized milk.
00:32:08.100 And what I've found with my raw milk is it's easier to digest.
00:32:13.500 I have friends who have tried it who were lactose intolerant and they could digest it.
00:32:18.540 So there is some really amazing, miraculous thing in this raw milk that our ancestors have
00:32:25.500 drank for thousands of years and was, I believe, by God, the land of milk and honey.
00:32:30.500 Yes.
00:32:31.000 I have to tell you, too.
00:32:32.840 I mean, when I was growing up in the 70s, I didn't know anybody who was allergic to a peanut.
00:32:40.240 And I remember when they first started showing up, I was like, what is wrong with you have a peanut
00:32:45.480 allergy thinking that it was just an isolated thing with all of the allergies that are going
00:32:52.160 on.
00:32:52.920 You cannot tell me that did not come from our lifestyle and our foods.
00:32:58.440 It had to have.
00:33:00.580 Absolutely.
00:33:01.380 I absolutely agree with you.
00:33:02.760 You look at the ingredients and you wonder, well, it starts to make sense why everyone's
00:33:06.880 so sick and has such weird allergies.
00:33:08.640 So you're a big proponent of locally sourced meat.
00:33:14.960 I am as well.
00:33:16.840 I have cattle and I like the local butcher because I know him.
00:33:24.340 I know his facility.
00:33:26.720 I know the quality of beef I'm getting, especially if it's mine.
00:33:30.440 Um, but I'm also a big fan of them because there's only four processing plants and three
00:33:37.820 of them are owned by foreign countries in America.
00:33:41.260 Um, and it is not good.
00:33:43.860 Two of those processing plants are also, you know, coming up with the bugs to eat and also
00:33:50.680 the non meat meat.
00:33:53.260 I don't trust that.
00:33:55.100 That is, that's big meat and it needs to be broken, broken up.
00:33:59.400 But it's hard to get a meat processing plant in your area now.
00:34:06.220 Yeah, it is.
00:34:07.760 And that is why I advocate so much online is find your local butcher.
00:34:13.100 So I even feed my dogs raw dog food and I support my local butcher by buying from them
00:34:20.220 or I even go and dumpster dive from them.
00:34:22.820 Yeah.
00:34:23.440 Get the scraps.
00:34:24.200 And that's what I grind myself into their food.
00:34:26.920 But it is again, reconnecting with our local communities and supporting these people who
00:34:32.740 aren't industrialized and commercialized and are real local families.
00:34:37.820 So butchers are so crucial.
00:34:40.800 Yes.
00:34:41.900 I will tell you that, um, uh, I have German shepherds and I was shocked to, to be told the truth
00:34:52.120 that, you know, up until the sixties or seventies, the main food that dogs got was just scraps
00:35:00.160 from the table and they were fine.
00:35:02.500 And now you're being taught scraps are bad for your dog.
00:35:06.060 That's really, really bad.
00:35:07.260 Don't do that with your dog.
00:35:09.820 That that's the opposite of the truth.
00:35:12.620 It is the complete opposite of the truth.
00:35:17.120 And you look at the cancer rates in animals just skyrocketing on kibble.
00:35:24.140 Go look at the kibble and it's soy and it's cornmeal and it's byproducts.
00:35:29.700 And there's constant recalls on their kibble because animals are dying and it's being covered
00:35:34.980 up.
00:35:35.300 Uh, so this is interesting because it's not only our food system that is being profited
00:35:43.200 on, but also our pets food system.
00:35:47.220 And that makes me even more sad because they don't have a voice really.
00:35:50.680 They can kind of tell us how they're feeling, but they can't say, Hey, I'm sick.
00:35:54.280 The food you're giving me is making me feel horrible.
00:35:57.320 Well, when, when I, cause I started working with a supplement company and, you know, for
00:36:01.740 dog food, uh, for people who feed their dogs kibble food.
00:36:05.340 And when I realized that that stuff is sterilized by law, it has to sit on a shelf for two years.
00:36:13.660 Plus if I fed my children, something that was so sterilized that it could not decay at all
00:36:23.860 in two years, they would not be healthy, but that's what we're feeding our dogs.
00:36:29.240 That's what we're feeding our dogs.
00:36:32.000 And it's no wonder that cancer in dogs, cats is completely skyrocketing other health ailments.
00:36:40.340 I'm glad, glad to hear you say that.
00:36:42.020 Cause I always just thought that because I, I know, you know, if, if my dog growing up
00:36:50.000 would have had cancer, I don't think my folks would have said, well, let's put them on cancer
00:36:55.280 treatment.
00:36:55.680 I mean, um, you know, just a, you couldn't afford it.
00:36:59.940 Um, so I, I've always wrestled with that.
00:37:03.220 What happened?
00:37:03.760 Why, why didn't I not realize, did we just not diagnose or did we just not look for that
00:37:08.980 and cancer?
00:37:10.040 I didn't know that there is a huge increase in cancer in, in animals.
00:37:16.180 Yeah, there is.
00:37:17.520 And so you just think of the pharmaceutical industry hasn't only infiltrated us, but it's
00:37:22.980 also infiltrate our pets.
00:37:24.960 But this goes back to what I love so much is I go to my butcher and I get a big box, 80
00:37:30.760 cents a pound of organs.
00:37:33.120 So liver, heart, I'm getting bones and stuff I could eat.
00:37:37.220 So I could eat that.
00:37:38.020 I could cook up the heart or the liver, but 80 pounds.
00:37:41.960 And when I share that online, people were like, wow, you were, you were getting the best
00:37:45.760 parts, why are you giving it to your dog?
00:37:47.620 But if you just go to your local area and you start looking around, you can find these
00:37:52.620 sources too.
00:37:53.420 Like I am.
00:37:54.780 Oh yeah.
00:37:55.500 Yeah.
00:37:56.320 Um, so let me switch gears before, before I switch gears, I just want to wrap this part
00:38:02.400 of the interview up with, there are people that are calling for an end to modernity.
00:38:09.420 Um, and depending on who you're talking to, some of them believe an end to everything post
00:38:19.660 enlightenment, that even the enlightenment was a bad thing that happened to human beings.
00:38:26.280 I, I, I strongly disagree that learning how to scientifically, you know, study things and
00:38:35.500 prove one is better than the other and questioning everything.
00:38:39.420 I have a hard time believing that is bad.
00:38:41.640 Um, but you're a believer in, in the scientific method and, and modernity, just not all of it.
00:38:51.240 Correct.
00:38:52.580 Yeah.
00:38:53.060 I would say, you know, it boils down to who's funding.
00:38:56.860 What is the purpose of the study?
00:38:58.800 More that, because I do dive into scientific research and I will share things that I find
00:39:03.660 online.
00:39:04.680 So yeah, I am totally.
00:39:06.580 Yeah.
00:39:07.800 Yeah.
00:39:08.620 I mean, I, I, it kills me that's, you know, some scientists say, you know, there is no
00:39:13.120 God, uh, if God exists, he is the chief scientist.
00:39:18.500 He is the chief mathematician.
00:39:20.680 I mean, it's too accurate to not have whoever created it, be really in tune with math and
00:39:30.200 science.
00:39:30.900 Um, anyway, um, so let me, let me change subject.
00:39:34.780 There's something else, um, that I think you consider yourself as that.
00:39:39.880 I, I think I understand, but I'm not sure.
00:39:43.460 And that is trad wives.
00:39:46.320 What is a trad wife?
00:39:47.960 Do you consider yourself a trad wife?
00:39:50.140 And how do you, how does that manifest?
00:39:53.020 Yeah.
00:39:53.640 So I would consider myself a trad wife and I feel like that trend has been on the rise.
00:39:58.700 And that's more, if you think of, you know, our great grandmas or our grandmas who were
00:40:05.200 at home and they were to home and the children and making the meals, preserving the food.
00:40:11.520 So that's how I look at it.
00:40:14.140 And I am making the home, my centerpiece.
00:40:16.920 I am preserving the food, tending to the garden.
00:40:19.640 And I know there are different ways that people look at that, but that is what's important
00:40:25.640 to me.
00:40:26.560 And yeah, I guess I would consider myself a trad wife in that sense, but I also do have a work
00:40:34.640 ethic where I have no problem going out.
00:40:37.760 If I had to go and get a job or whatever, I would still stay with that.
00:40:43.380 But our grandmothers did that too.
00:40:45.100 I mean, my grandmother, you know, they worked in the factories when the men were gone for
00:40:49.500 the war.
00:40:50.100 I mean, you know, um, and that is not a, is, is this a pushback do you see on feminism or
00:40:58.540 what is this a pushback on?
00:41:00.600 I would say it is a pushback on the movement of feminism.
00:41:05.160 So a lot of people view feminism as a way of taking the woman out of the home, getting
00:41:12.120 another taxpaying entity in the house.
00:41:15.060 So it's not the father anymore.
00:41:16.960 Who's paying taxes.
00:41:18.200 You also have the mom.
00:41:19.520 And then who's raising the children.
00:41:21.320 The children are off in government schools or daycares being raised by other people that
00:41:27.000 you don't know.
00:41:27.940 So this trad wife movement is a pushback on that and saying, Hey, there was a role for
00:41:34.440 the woman in the home and they're trying to take that back.
00:41:40.820 So my mother was born in, I don't remember 38, something like that.
00:41:49.680 And, um, she was too old to be a burn your bra kind of person, but she was too young to
00:42:00.700 be my grandmother who, you know, didn't know how to drive or anything else.
00:42:05.800 And once you drive an old 1950s or forties truck, you know why women didn't drive.
00:42:12.100 I didn't want to drive that truck.
00:42:14.140 Um, but anyway, um, and she really had a hard time cause she didn't fit either side.
00:42:21.600 She had desires to do things, but she was just at the tail end of that traditional housewife.
00:42:30.160 It wasn't right for her.
00:42:32.260 Um, and she didn't see herself as a, you know, as a, a strong feminist.
00:42:40.540 She didn't want all of that.
00:42:41.780 She didn't reject men.
00:42:43.940 Um, what do you say to people?
00:42:46.900 How do you, how do you, how would we balance this?
00:42:51.940 I guess when it's an absolute, it's always bad, but when there's choice and you can do
00:42:59.420 whatever, it's good.
00:43:00.920 Is that how you balance it?
00:43:03.040 Yes.
00:43:03.480 I absolutely love the ability to have a choice.
00:43:07.420 And I feel like I align with, that was your mom, right?
00:43:11.160 Who was right in the middle.
00:43:13.120 I feel like I align with that because I was born in the time where I need to go to university.
00:43:18.120 I need to get a job.
00:43:19.580 I need to have a degree and which I did get a degree and I was pursuing medical field, but
00:43:25.840 I didn't really want to do that.
00:43:27.900 And now I'm returning to my roots, but I also work because I have my own skincare company,
00:43:35.700 tallow based, all natural that I do.
00:43:38.740 And I work on every single day.
00:43:40.900 So I'm somewhere in the mix of that too.
00:43:43.540 I'm working, but I'm also have these trad wife elements in my life.
00:43:48.440 How many kids do you have?
00:43:50.320 I don't have any.
00:43:51.920 Don't have any yet.
00:43:53.200 You are married though?
00:43:55.240 Uh, no.
00:43:55.760 You're not married yet.
00:43:58.280 Um, you plan on being married and having kids?
00:44:01.500 Yes, absolutely.
00:44:03.540 Um, what is important in a man for you?
00:44:10.140 What, what are the things, the qualities that, that are really important to you?
00:44:16.340 Well, we talked about the matrix earlier.
00:44:18.920 So someone who would be able to see the system that I see, how, how our food is poisoning us.
00:44:26.480 Yeah.
00:44:26.640 Um, someone who is able to realize that what you see on TV is not always real, fabricated.
00:44:35.000 Um, there's a war for your mind.
00:44:36.980 So someone who understands that someone who is able to work hard is driven.
00:44:44.600 Someone who has drive.
00:44:46.540 They're not just okay with staying in something that they're not completely happy with, but
00:44:52.060 constantly chasing something.
00:44:53.400 Someone who wants to also have children and raise them with good values, hard work, work
00:45:01.460 ethic, pass on those things.
00:45:03.240 So that's what I think of is someone who would be like-minded.
00:45:06.300 I feel like it would be difficult to be with someone who is consuming ultra processed food,
00:45:11.180 who doesn't quite want to be on a homestead.
00:45:14.140 Um, that's what I think.
00:45:16.480 And, and children, how are you thinking that you, at this point, you know, it's just kind
00:45:24.540 of out there, but how will you raise your children?
00:45:27.560 Will you homeschool?
00:45:29.100 What, how, what are you thinking?
00:45:32.200 So homeschool, most definitely.
00:45:35.140 I feel like if we look at the public education system, there are quite a few problems there
00:45:41.100 and you send your kid.
00:45:42.920 Yeah.
00:45:43.460 I'm putting it lightly.
00:45:45.160 Yeah.
00:45:45.560 Putting it lightly.
00:45:46.480 Yeah.
00:45:47.340 To sit in a desk under artificial lighting and, um, homeschool.
00:45:51.740 Absolutely.
00:45:52.500 And in my community, there's a lot of homeschoolers.
00:45:55.260 There's actually a lot of Amish as well.
00:45:57.400 And I am mingled with a lot of these different communities and I see how they raise their kids.
00:46:04.500 And I'm very inspired by that.
00:46:06.560 I watched the farmer who comes out to my field, who I let, he pastures his cows and he brings
00:46:11.380 his little boys with them and they're out there hurting the cows.
00:46:14.480 They are interacting with me.
00:46:16.000 Yeah.
00:46:16.480 On a, yeah, they're young and they have this amazing conversational skills that they are
00:46:22.880 using with me.
00:46:23.540 And so there is something with kids watching their parents interact daily with other people
00:46:30.520 doing business transactions.
00:46:31.720 And so I a hundred percent plan to homeschool my kids.
00:46:36.920 I will tell you that, um, you know, I, uh, when I was at the, uh, when I was living in New York and
00:46:44.200 everything, that city never sleeps.
00:46:46.360 Uh, and, and, and I didn't, uh, I had a physical ailment, but I didn't go to the doctor cause I didn't think it was an ailment
00:46:53.420 cause I was only sleeping about four hours a day.
00:46:56.980 And I thought that was a great advantage cause I could get so much stuff done.
00:47:00.400 Didn't realize that's really bad for you.
00:47:03.460 And so as my body started to fall apart, I was like, Oh, okay.
00:47:07.020 Um, uh, but when I was talking to somebody, cause I was so incredibly busy and I talked to a guy who was the head of, uh, he was the CFO for a city bank.
00:47:20.480 And before that he was a CFO for American express and he was always traveling.
00:47:26.160 He was always someplace, uh, during the week.
00:47:30.160 And I said to him, how do you balance your life?
00:47:33.620 And he said, well, there is no such thing as balance because you're always cheating one for the other.
00:47:39.840 He said, I try to integrate my life.
00:47:43.200 And if I can, my kids come with me.
00:47:46.460 Um, you know, and I, we just try to stay as a family.
00:47:50.560 And we do it all together as much as we can.
00:47:53.720 And I noticed I, cause I started doing that with my kids.
00:47:56.760 My kids have talked to presidents and prime ministers and, uh, you know, farmers.
00:48:03.140 They can, they, and they, if you don't treat your kids like kids, you know, you don't talk down to them.
00:48:12.160 You just expect them to participate in the conversation.
00:48:16.700 Um, it's amazing how different they are.
00:48:20.760 Um, yeah.
00:48:22.720 And I feel like exactly what you're saying is I see that here versus these communities, the Amish, there's German Baptist and other homeschool groups.
00:48:33.360 These kids versus, um, kids who are in the schools all day, there's a difference.
00:48:39.660 And I would not deny that it's almost night and day from my interactions.
00:48:44.820 But there is this powerful truth of just not talking down to your kids, almost having expectations.
00:48:51.740 And I see it.
00:48:52.980 So when my kids turned 16, uh, you know, the, the schools demanded that they have a phone and that they have an iPad and, uh, I know, I know.
00:49:07.940 And it, it, it changed them entirely, um, things that weren't real suddenly became very important.
00:49:18.540 And even their conversations changed.
00:49:21.900 They were, it's just bizarre.
00:49:25.680 How are you going to, you know, when you're older and your brain has settled, it's still very dangerous.
00:49:33.180 But if you have your wits about you, you can navigate like, uh, you know, you obviously do.
00:49:39.100 How are you going to deal with technology with your kids?
00:49:43.120 You know, I have thought a lot about that because screens are addictive and I have no clue what the technology is going to look like in 10 years.
00:49:54.140 But I've also thought about, I have a social media presence.
00:49:57.360 I plan to never share my kids online because I feel like that could be dangerous for them.
00:50:04.700 They don't have, you know, consent on if they want to be a part of my social media.
00:50:10.360 I do feel like because I've been online for a while and done social media, I will have a better grasp of what is going on in their online lives, on their phones.
00:50:21.700 And I really want to navigate that screen time.
00:50:27.160 I feel like, can you avoid it?
00:50:29.340 It can be avoided in some scenarios, but technology is a part of life.
00:50:35.540 And I feel like if I never learned to use it at such a young age, I would not be where I'm at.
00:50:41.920 So it is a delicate line to walk of safety, of utilizing what is reality, like what we talked about earlier.
00:50:48.500 And what you're saying with like kids, I feel like that's even harder for them to decipher.
00:50:53.000 They're seeing this super edited image on their phone and they're like, oh, well, pretty as them or my hair is not as perfect.
00:51:00.480 So helping them navigate into that.
00:51:04.440 I mean, I don't know if you're probably not old enough to remember, but the big debate, especially for women, was the beauty magazines and the images of women.
00:51:14.900 And they could never live up to that.
00:51:17.060 Look at what the filters do.
00:51:20.520 Look at the manipulation.
00:51:22.540 And I've noticed that people, it's so fascinating.
00:51:26.200 I'll be out in a crowd and I'll be watching, you know, I was at a football game recently.
00:51:30.200 And I was watching these younger people take pictures of themselves all over and they would take them as a group.
00:51:37.740 And all of a sudden they'd smile and have that pose that you've seen on social media, all of them.
00:51:45.080 And the minute it's taken, it stops.
00:51:48.380 And they don't ever pose like that.
00:51:50.340 They don't ever.
00:51:51.200 It's not real.
00:51:52.820 It is, it's so dangerous and intoxicating because it's, because it's not who you are.
00:52:03.340 It's not real.
00:52:04.120 It's not a candid photo.
00:52:06.220 I don't think candid photos even really exist very much anymore.
00:52:11.440 I completely agree with that.
00:52:13.140 And I pictured that in my head.
00:52:14.740 I know exactly what you're talking about with that scenario.
00:52:16.920 And then they go back to their phones and you're like, where's the interaction?
00:52:21.920 I call it zombie.
00:52:24.020 Like it's very just zombie, mindlessly drowning.
00:52:27.500 And it's like, you're just sucking your mind into your phone online and you're disconnecting from what's actually going on around you.
00:52:34.760 And I feel like that's a bigger agenda in and of itself.
00:52:37.360 Yes.
00:52:37.800 Of the phones just taking our reality away from us.
00:52:42.040 I could, it's funny you call them zombies because I walk in and I'll see my kids on the phone or whatever.
00:52:46.800 And I'll say, hey, crack addicts, how are you?
00:52:49.700 Because it's really like crack.
00:52:51.700 They just, you try to take somebody's phone away.
00:52:56.220 And it is, it's like, I'm an alcoholic.
00:52:59.340 I'm a recovering alcoholic.
00:53:00.640 It would be like somebody saying, you know what?
00:53:03.460 I'm just pouring all of this alcohol down the drain.
00:53:06.500 No, no, no.
00:53:07.980 I mean, I would have gone into full-fledged panic.
00:53:10.360 And I think that's a way a lot of people deal with social media and their phones.
00:53:15.540 They, you know, my wife says, you know, because she is in a good way.
00:53:23.600 She is constantly texting and everything else.
00:53:26.160 And she'll say, I'll say, honey, honey, stop.
00:53:31.880 And she'll say, honey, I have to take care of these things.
00:53:37.440 Our life is more complicated now.
00:53:40.300 These didn't make our lives easier or better.
00:53:43.300 They made them much more complicated.
00:53:47.100 And, you know, I'll say to her, you know, we did fine before the phone.
00:53:52.400 We can, you know, I don't carry a phone.
00:53:54.920 I don't have a phone.
00:53:55.920 I don't want a phone.
00:53:56.820 If somebody, if, you know, it's kind of like people who, you know, will, will judge me and say, well, he's really just, you know what?
00:54:06.560 Call me.
00:54:07.340 If you dis, if I've said something that really offends you, call me.
00:54:11.400 And if you say, well, I don't have your number, then you're not a close enough friend to be able to feel justified in judging me.
00:54:20.560 You know, it's just a different world.
00:54:24.740 Go ahead.
00:54:25.040 Oh, it is a different world.
00:54:27.400 And thinking about that, we have such instant access to people.
00:54:31.440 Like what you're saying, someone could tell you who they just have your phone number.
00:54:35.100 They're not even close with you and say, hey, I'm offended.
00:54:38.220 But back in the day when it was just the dial phones, you didn't have that instant access to people.
00:54:44.380 And so when we have that instant access and we have all these things to do, these phones, these tablets have really made our lives more complex.
00:54:53.580 I completely see that.
00:54:55.040 I, the aspect I really don't like is that instant access that somebody can have to you through your phone, the message.
00:55:02.940 And then why aren't you replying?
00:55:05.020 Well, I don't, I don't have to.
00:55:06.920 It was interesting to me, as bad as the COVID shutdowns were, for my family, it was actually good.
00:55:17.600 I mean, we all stayed together.
00:55:20.800 We played games together.
00:55:22.740 It was much more like it was when I was growing up, where everything was just slowed way down.
00:55:32.860 And all of us at the end said, I prefer this than going back.
00:55:38.480 Yet, everybody went back.
00:55:41.540 Everybody went back.
00:55:42.460 Everybody did go back.
00:55:45.440 And I feel like that's, oh, sorry.
00:55:47.740 No, go ahead.
00:55:48.400 No, no, no.
00:55:49.720 With working from home, so many people worked from home and they had that element like you were talking about.
00:55:54.620 They were with their families.
00:55:56.060 They had more family time.
00:55:57.920 And it was rewarding.
00:55:58.880 And so when that finally came back and the companies were calling people back into the office, they were like, why, why do I have to go back?
00:56:05.820 I just made it work outside the office.
00:56:07.460 And this was so amazing.
00:56:08.920 It boils down to, I don't think people are made for that.
00:56:12.200 We're made to be with our families and function as these units.
00:56:16.220 Do you ever feel like our society is so far down the road that there's just no turning back, that there's just, it can't be fixed, mass scale?
00:56:36.340 Yes, I do feel like that.
00:56:39.080 And I know that's very doom and gloom.
00:56:41.360 I do feel like it is pretty far down the drain and it's scary to see where it's going.
00:56:47.400 But with knowing that, it's still good to have your foot on the ground.
00:56:52.280 It's still good to find that happiness with your family, with yourself first, with your family, with your community.
00:56:59.880 Go outside and enjoy the sunshine every morning.
00:57:02.340 Hear the birds chirp.
00:57:03.380 And so finding this peace within yourself, within your area of life, but also being aware of what's going on.
00:57:12.040 And yes, I do feel like that.
00:57:13.640 Do you?
00:57:15.160 Oh, yeah.
00:57:16.200 Yeah, I do.
00:57:16.640 But I have faith that remnants, the right remnants can be saved, but it's going to be a real struggle because there is going to be this ability to be taken care of and to unplug from everything.
00:57:38.520 With AI and everything that is coming with that, there's some of the Yuval Harari, who is a terrifying scientist.
00:57:50.940 He is a guy who is a futurist, and he has been saying, we're just going to have to keep the people on gaming and drugged because there's not going to be real meaning for life because they're not going to be doing very much.
00:58:08.840 So how do we keep them going?
00:58:11.560 That is a terrifying outlook.
00:58:13.700 We should probably reconsider if you have to take a large portion of the public and keep them drugged and addicted to gaming, we probably shouldn't be pursuing that.
00:58:30.520 That's a horrible trajectory to think about.
00:58:34.040 And then that boils down to our individual selves because where does change start?
00:58:37.960 It starts with us, and that's going to be the motivation within oneself to say, hey, I don't want to be addicted to drugs and gaming for the rest of my life.
00:58:47.280 I don't want that for my kids.
00:58:48.720 So what can I do now?
00:58:50.580 So I feel like these changes need to be made now so we don't end up like that.
00:58:58.060 One last question.
00:58:59.620 You want to homeschool your kids.
00:59:03.320 You have a skincare business.
00:59:04.980 You churn your own butter.
00:59:09.800 You think you're going to be able to do all of those at the same time?
00:59:14.060 Yes.
00:59:14.640 I absolutely know I'll be able to do all of them.
00:59:17.680 It boils down to scheduling for me.
00:59:20.740 And I have this drive, Glenn.
00:59:22.680 I've always had this drive ever since I was younger.
00:59:25.260 If I want something and I'm going to figure out however I can to go and get it.
00:59:32.320 So when I see an obstacle, I figure out a problem or I figure out the solution for the problem and I do it.
00:59:40.480 So looking at all these things of my homesteading life, I mean, there is always things going wrong.
00:59:45.580 Fences, cows getting out.
00:59:47.280 Yeah.
00:59:48.180 Prospect of homeschooling one day and my skincare business.
00:59:51.200 Sometimes I'll figure out solutions and that's what I encourage online.
00:59:54.920 I get so many questions.
00:59:55.880 How can I do this?
00:59:56.740 Or I can never do this.
00:59:58.260 Yes, you can.
00:59:59.520 The change starts with you.
01:00:00.880 You just need to want to do it.
01:00:04.860 I'd love to meet you in person sometime and have one of your home-cooked meals.
01:00:08.820 You're wonderful.
01:00:10.320 Hey, yeah.
01:00:10.900 It requires me to go to the Pacific Northwest, though, doesn't it?
01:00:17.280 Yeah, it will.
01:00:19.300 I'm in Idaho.
01:00:20.400 That's probably as close as I want to get to my old stomping ground because it has changed so much.
01:00:26.340 But thank you for being part of Positive Change.
01:00:29.580 God bless you.
01:00:31.440 Thank you.
01:00:32.260 You too.
01:00:32.900 You bet.
01:00:33.760 Bye-bye.
01:00:34.120 Bye.
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