Ep 234 ｜ 'Yellowstone' Star’s Fight to Make America ‘Cowboy’ Again ｜ Forrie J. Smith ｜ The Glenn Beck PodcastÂ
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Summary
Actor Forrey J. Smith talks to the man behind the role of "The American Cowboy" on the hit TV show, Yellowstone, Lloyd Pierce. He talks about growing up in the old west, how he became a cowboy, and why he believes in the need for more cowboys.
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I want you to close your eyes for a second and think about America and the image that comes to mind.
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Maybe you think of our flag, fireworks, 4th of July, burgers, fries.
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I mean, that comes to mind without anybody saying America to me an awful lot.
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But when you really think about America, I think mountains, I think West, I think cowboys.
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The image of a cowboy perfectly captures the American spirit.
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It's a man taming the land, the West, working with the environment and with God,
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just carving a path through life, taming the animal, loving the animal, working with the animal, hardworking, godly, adventurous, sometimes barfighting, but it's America.
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The cowboy is a man who believes in justice and family, has a healthy dose of, you know, kind of rowdy independence, but also is a man of his word.
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The cowboy contract is a handshake looking a man in the eye saying, I give my word.
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The American cowboy, the American cowboy, a free man.
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I mean, he plays one on TV, but he is, he is that guy.
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You'll know him as Lloyd Pierce, the oldest ranch hand on the fictional Yellowstone Dutton Ranch.
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But today, I want you to meet the man behind the role to find out why he is speaking up on issues that matter most to him.
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Welcome to the podcast from the smash hit television show, Yellowstone, actor and actual American cowboy, Forrey J. Smith.
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I feel like I should call you Lloyd, but I know you're for it, but I feel like I know you.
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How much how much how much foray is in Lloyd and how much Lloyd is in foray?
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It's working as a wrangler as the head wrangler on that.
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And I had horses and cows and my dogs and everything on that.
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I had to get in the first 80s face, poked him in the chest.
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And I had the guy that hired me, the livestock coordinator, move my truck and trailer.
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I rode up my rope team, pulled him straight out the door.
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You don't move my truck and trailer and reached in, took the keys out.
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Ten head of burrows, you know, all leased and under my name on the movie.
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He, you know, there's no way he could, and, uh, but what was really cool and I knew that
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me and Taylor would that, is he leaned over to my, my horse and looked the guy in the eye
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and goes, try and go move my truck and see what happens, asshole.
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He told me later, he says, yeah, I'm writing a modern, been contracted to do a modern,
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write a modern Western and you're going to be in it.
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And I'll tell you what, Taylor Sheridan's been a man of his word for me.
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I mean, I mean, you can tell by the hat, first of all.
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I should take it off proper etiquette for me to take it off while we're doing this interview,
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There is cowboy etiquette, real cowboy etiquette.
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You can't, you, I know you wouldn't eat, you wouldn't have it often at a dinner table.
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You take it off in honor of your meal and to show respect to the people that are feeding
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Why are cowboy movies making a comeback right now?
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I think there's something about the cowboy that is so American.
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The term cowboy originated in Texas during the civil war.
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The older men who would leave to go off to fight the war.
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So even if you were a girl of the family, if it was your responsibility to ride the sections
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and keep track of your cattle, you were called the cowboy of the family.
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And that was an honor when you went to town, you, I'm the cowboy of the family.
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Now we, we had the vaqueros from Mexico and we, a lot of our culture is derived from them.
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They were having rodeos in Southern California before, uh, so it, it is rodeo.
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Cause rodeo drive, we always joke about we're going to the rodeo.
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And they would have roundups and then they would have roping and bucking horse riding contests.
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Um, Chief Rojas, I've read all his books and, uh, he explains it in there and they were
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You know, I'm, I'm, uh, I just love, I think his name is Bill Pickett.
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Um, so we, you were going into the cowboy culture.
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I was on the JV basketball team and we didn't get to practice till right, till after varsity
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So I'd have time to go home after school and feed the cows and then, uh, um, go back to
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My granddad had broke his hip and, um, he'd just come, he said, Hey kid, I think I can
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Usually what I'd do is I'd put it in compound and put a two by four against the gas pedal
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and then get in the back and throw the hay out.
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And it's, it's quite a ride cause you got all them frozen cow turds out there that trucks
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So yeah, I was grateful to have him come out and drive the truck for me.
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We're driving around through the cows and he says, you know, we're not going to make,
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Maybe it, I think we're cows were selling for 35 cents a pound then or calves.
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And, uh, he says, if I could get 39 cents a pound, I could, I could break even.
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I gotta, he says, my kid's out here busting his butt.
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He looks at me when he gets, you know, son, we're helping feed America.
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And that's kind of the cowboy culture right there.
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Um, is it's, there's a bigger thing than what we're doing out here today.
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We're maintaining the grass and, and, uh, rotating our pastures to keep everything right.
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And it drives me nuts that these, um, greenies come in and try to lecture people who are farmers
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They care more about the land than anybody in any city that has, you know, has some PhD
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The worst, the worst neighbor I have is the Bureau of Land Management.
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I left Hollywood and I went back to cowboy and I'd, I'd went in, uh, the BLM guy come over.
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He was going to find me for over grazing this one pasture.
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And I said, well, I'll tell you what part, you come back after the, after the monsoons.
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And if that pasture doesn't come back better than it ever has been, you can find out, you
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And, uh, I said, you go tell my boss what I said and everything.
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Well, what I'd done was I'd put them cows in there and they'd ate off all the weeds in
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And, uh, so then when the monsoons did come, the weeds were all gone.
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And, uh, I said, yeah, that leaving 50, 60% that leaves the weeds.
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And I says, we need to graze it down to 20, 25% like I did.
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And I'd learned that from working at the empire ranch, Mac Donaldson.
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He's a great, um, man for the land and, and taking wrote.
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Um, and, uh, yeah, yeah, it's just nuts that they don't think we're taking the best care
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Another thing, Glenn, that really gets me is the cow farts and the cow manure.
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We used to have 60 million buffalo and no telling how many elk running across the plains.
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And now people are, yeah, it's, well, can you explain this?
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I mean, I don't know if you would have any, I can give you a theory.
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Uh, I, I live, uh, down the street, probably like 20 miles away, uh, down the street from
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The most amazing thing you can see is them coming over the hill.
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Um, and you can see how much of them are beefalo as they look more and more like cows and how
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much really are bison, you know, are close to bison.
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And it's my understanding that they sometimes thin the herd and they just kill them instead
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of giving them to ranches so we can have purebred Buffalo.
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The only pure Buffalo or bison is owned by the government.
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He told me that and I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.
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And, um, people don't know this Corriente and Longhorn are the most healthiest beef you
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The low in cholesterol and, and, uh, yeah, it's the, and you know, the Longhorn.
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That's where it all come from was the Longhorn.
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Um, and then Buffalo, it's, yeah, I, I just, there's so much waste in this country.
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We, um, like right there, um, my cousin, Oklahoma, he's got 80 acres of pigs are taking over hogs.
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And I said, well, wild, yeah, well, they've intermixed and, yeah.
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And, uh, she said, well, we'll go down there and have us a hog killing.
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I said, yeah, we'll wait till after the freeze where we can donate the meat, you know, and
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There's a lot of good, like, especially around Rio de Janeiro, New Mexico, there's elk and
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And when I first moved up into the mountains with real people, not city people, um, you
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know, somebody hits a deer, boom, they put it back in the back of their truck and, you
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know, eat it, not just push it off to the side, bleed it out.
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I was, uh, we had two cows hit on the County road, Montana's open range, like, um, New Mexico
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and Arizona also, meaning if you don't want cows on your property that you got to put
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He got the driver and they have had to pay and everything, but he called the two teeth
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They came up there and the only thing left to them two cows was the gut pile.
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And we later on had some killed on the railroad and of course it's up to the railroad to keep
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But again, he called the two teeth and they come up there and, uh, you know, them cows had
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Um, they didn't care and come bled them and they took everything.
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And I was raised one of the reasons I think, uh, I'm so healthy in my older age.
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But I was raised on a garden about the only canned things we ate were, um, McNally's chili
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And, uh, I think we have really screwed our food up.
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And it's like 30% of our beef now comes out of Brazil.
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You know, what did they inject in it before it got butchered?
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I don't know why we can't get, um, what do they call it?
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Well, they have the little flag that says product of USA.
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That means it was, it was butchered or packaged here in the USA.
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And why, why are we having to go to Brazil to, to buy beef?
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I mean, our ranchers, I think it's, I, the biggest mafia I've ever seen are the meat packing
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They're mobsters and they rip our farmers off like crazy.
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And at the same time, they're the ones making the fake meat.
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And it's making people sick, giving people issues.
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How about, I can't remember the company's name that the oil companies and car, car companies
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came all together and made this company that went around and bought all the, the trolleys
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They, they, they do away with all the trolley systems and now they got big stinky or buses
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that nobody wants to ride on because they're crowded.
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So now we had the best city transportation ever.
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So those companies went together and bought them out.
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So we have, I mean, I, we started with the cowboy culture and I, I think, and I'd love your
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I think America has so lost its way on your word is your bond, your handshake, you know,
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I, when, when we bought our farm, um, in Idaho,
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we brought the kids out and I was living in New York at the time and I realized I hadn't
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And if you don't see the stars, you don't sit there and go, man, are we small?
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And so we bought a farm so we can move out and have the kids, you know, grow up.
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And I grew up on my grandma and grandpa's farm, uh, in the summertime.
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Uh, and, uh, and I, at the time I only just wanted to get away.
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Now I get my right arm to get away from even this city and live full time out in the middle
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Um, because common sense comes back and also caring about your neighbor and not just because
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you have to, because if you're farmers, you could be the best farmer, but you're going
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to have a bad year and they'll have a good year and they're going to help you and you
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better help them because at some point it's going to be you that needs help.
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And, and then the fact that you can be the best, but God is required.
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When we moved away and we moved into the cities, all of that was lost.
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And I think that's why cowboys are making a comeback because it represents America, true
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Um, Marx and Hitler both, if they knew that if they control the children, they control the
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future and that people that had no faith are easier to bend.
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Um, and, um, my grandmother taught me, uh, my, my cousins were Catholic and we go to the
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Catholic church with them and midnight mass and stuff at Christmas and they're all getting
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She goes, I'm not, I'm not of any denomination.
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She says there's too much blood been spilt between these denominations.
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And I don't feel that that's a godly way, but I do know there is a supreme power that
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there is something else going on in this world and that you need to acknowledge that.
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And, um, I think it's easier for, uh, cowboys and ranchers and farmers that see it every
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day, every day, you know, you see the miracle of birth and death and, uh, um, the miracle
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of things growing and, and just how it all works together.
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And I realize that, uh, and the beauty of a sunset, you know, uh, or sunrise, um, and
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And honestly, the beauty of people, I love the people of my small town and I, I'm surrounded
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down here by a lot of great neighbors, but there's a different quality.
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I was just out in, um, Asheville, uh, South Carolina yesterday, North Carolina yesterday.
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And I would live with those Appalachian people in a heartbeat.
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You know, um, one of, there's two things I'm really proud of.
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My granddad rodeoed back when they'd rode horses to the rodeos and stuff.
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And the other one is, is everywhere I've lived, I've been called a good neighbor.
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Uh, we lived on a hillside mountainside, um, in Montana.
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There was three families that lived there year round.
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There was us, Palmer's, my grandpa and grandma, the wing family and Norman Bruce.
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Then there was a couple other places where people would come and spend the summers, but
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The wings plowed our roads and took care of our roads in the winter.
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We'd go, granddad and I go, um, castrate their colts in the spring.
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We'd help them move cattle out on the forest service in the spring and the summer and go
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Uh, there was 13 kids in eight grades when I started grade school there at Montana City.
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My granddad was the self-acclaimed mayor of Montana City and, uh, we all just, and got along.
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The place I lived at before where I'm at now, my neighbors across the road, their, their politics
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and mine, for, for example, I opened the barn door and there's a rattlesnake coiled up ready
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and, um, my neighbor was just across the fence and I says, Hey, uh, you want to relocate
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You better get over here before I get to my gun.
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He snared that snake, put him in a bucket, took him off back up on the mountain.
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Well, um, I shoot the rattlesnakes in my property.
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So that's just kind of showing their, their politics politically go down that line.
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So we came to an issue where we couldn't get the County to work on our road.
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And then my other neighbor, he has heavy, heavy equipment.
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And, uh, so I went into the County commissioner and I told them, we're going to fix our road.
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And we've, my part, my neighbor on the computer is found where it is a County road.
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It should be maintained by the County, but you guys don't want to do it.
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So I'm going to buy the diesel from a one neighbor that has the equipment.
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This other neighbors got all the permits and everything lined up on the computer to do
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That money should go to the schools or something else.
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Well, boom, then they all came out and they wanted to see what, you know, they got involved
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She told me, she said, for, thank you for being such a good neighbor.
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And I was like, you know, I hope I'm as good a neighbor to you as y'all are to me because
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And, but our politics were totally the opposite.
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But it kind of helped, you know, he kind of seen me.
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My side and I could, he opened my mind up to some other things.
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And then I was flying to Chicago for a WGN interview and doing a Shriners charity.
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And on the way up there to Dallas, I stopped in Dallas to go to Larry Mahan's memorial.
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And then I sat down and he got a grin on his face.
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And he says, cause I think our politics are probably different.
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And we had a two hour, whatever it is from Dallas to Chicago, just a good visit.
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He opened my mind to some things and I opened his mind to some things.
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And he waited for me in the tunnel and he shook my hand.
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He says, this, this is what this country needs more of.
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And I said, but what I think, Glenn, is that it's the computers.
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They can, they don't have to compromise in a conversation with you or I.
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They can go home to their computer and get with their little group.
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They don't, they aren't going to listen or, you know, explain themselves.
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Because they got their own little group they can go back to.
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People they've never seen probably, you know, and might be controlled by some other group
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that's wanting to create division in our country.
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Oh, I mean, I just, my, both my kids, just the last, the two are out of school now.
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Because they're dealing with stuff and you're like, I don't, I don't know.
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And you feel like, you know, you feel like you're a thousand years old
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because you're saying the things that you swore you wouldn't say
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You know, it's moved so far in a dangerous direction.
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You know, my grandpa and grandma didn't trust the government.
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1973, Merle Haggard released, you're walking on the fight inside of me.
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Um, so we've, we've been in this battle before.
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I've got great grandfathers that tore up the papers on their wives
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because they didn't want any government assistance because they're Indians.
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And they did not want any government assistance.
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One of them was from Ireland on my grandmother's side.
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He came over and they conscripted him into the Union Army
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After the war, he moved to Missouri and married a Cherokee lady.
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And he would, he's like, we don't need any of their help.
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That's what, that's what I found in the, at the hurricane in North Carolina.
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I mean, they're, they're, they're, they're wondering why they don't matter
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But, uh, I've two, two, uh, people telling me, one of them set up a, you know,
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these, all these retired, you know, uh, soldiers and special forces guy
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that live right in the community or right around.
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And they set up a clinic because nobody was there.
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And yesterday or day before FEMA comes in and they said, uh, you know,
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So talk to me about a little bit about Yellowstone because I'm a big fan.
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And I'm so bummed that it's coming apart and, you know, I don't, I don't, you know, I hear
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both things about Kevin Costner, you know, it's not his fault too.
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I really liked the character I was getting to play.
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And the way he pulls it off and puts everything together.
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But it got to be the last season, you know, and you don't know if you're going to work.
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Well, you know, it just, the turmoil that started there, and it started about the third
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When everybody realized, see, nobody thought in Hollywood, especially, oh, this ain't going
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When I first got involved, it was Robert Redford and HBO were going to, and then, so...
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And then after the second year, and they got this cult following going, now they're all
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Well, it was one of the cool things about it is how we all came together.
00:36:33.200
It actually probably made our acting in a lot of things better because of how we did come
00:36:43.640
And, but that chaos, I mean, if it was just Yellowstone and, hey, we're going to film May
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But this never knowing, and okay, we're going to go now, and then, oh, now we're pushed.
00:37:08.080
And that's because of the movies that Costner or whoever was doing, right?
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It's just, I know that everybody got put on hold at Elkhart.
00:37:24.380
You know, they send you money and compensate you, but still, you got a life.
00:37:33.460
You're like, this is the second half, right, of the, what is it, season five?
00:37:41.680
I don't even remember what happened, you know, in the first half.
00:37:50.800
It's the beginning of the end is what I've been.
00:37:54.380
Yeah, but the tailor's writing that, but whatever happened there and is water under the bridge now and I'm better off and broader and bigger man than I was when we started.
00:38:12.320
Oh, and like I said, all that's out of my, I can't, I don't know what happened there.
00:38:20.680
And I, I don't like, I don't really care, but it's not Yellowstone.
00:38:24.940
It wasn't the script and all of that is beautiful.
00:38:31.320
But all that other stuff that came out of this, Taylor and Kevin, I don't know if that's where it all started, if it started somewhere else, all this friction over the money and the power.
00:38:53.120
I mean, in a way, in a way, I kind of feel bad for liking the family, you know, because it's almost, it's almost like a cowboy version of the Sopranos.
00:39:05.760
With the second year up there, oh, this is a Dallas Sopranos cross.
00:39:14.000
What's cool about when people tell me that is cool is because Patrick Duffy, one of the stars of Dallas.
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It's from right down the road, 30 miles from my house.
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My gosh, that is the best character, I think, the best, I don't know, villain character I've ever seen.
00:39:43.400
She plays it so well, and I had no idea she was from Great Britain.
00:39:48.120
And I read a story, and I don't know if this is true or not, but she said she didn't, she used an American accent the entire time for like the first week
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because she didn't want people to say, she's British, she's not going to be able to pull this role off.
00:40:14.540
And this last season was the first time I ever really ever heard her have trouble with it on, you know.
00:40:24.360
But yeah, I was just, I didn't know either the first couple weeks.
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And it's, it's an oxymoron, I guess you'd call it.
00:40:39.900
I get people come up and tell me, oh, this is the best of the family.
00:40:48.520
So that's kind of, our culture is so weird right now.
00:40:51.800
My wife has a t-shirt that, you know, you know, I'm having a bath day or something.
00:40:59.500
And the culture, it, the thing I think that is the secret on that is even her, she is fighting against the machine.
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Maybe not fairly at times, but the whole thing is fighting against the machine.
00:41:29.500
I know a lot of people from Montana that are kind of pissed at Yellowstone.
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And I know what you're talking about because you go in some of the bars, we had trouble.
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And then the other ones, yee-haw, we love you, you know.
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Reminded me of being in Mexico back in the early 80s.
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But this is what I've got to say to you Montanans.
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I worked in the Bitterroot Valley cowboying when I was 19 years old.
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It wasn't because of Yellowstone that you guys are selling property to these out-of-staters and stuff.
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Don't blame Yellowstone because it was already messed up when we got there in 2017.
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It's not just because of Yellowstone in the Bitterroot Valley.
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This is happening all over the country right now.
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It's funny because that is the story of Yellowstone.
00:42:58.000
I remember I considered moving to Montana, which I wouldn't now because now the New Yorkers are there and the big money people are there.
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And I'm like, you come in with your big money and you think you're safe.
00:43:17.240
You know, everybody around you knows things go to hell.
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But, you know, when I first got in the movie business and I can't remember, but the girl I was with, she says,
00:43:37.560
how do you get along with all these multimillionaires and everybody, all these big producers and studio execs and everything?
00:43:56.180
I says, when the world goes to hell, I'll be the one they'll be looking for.
00:44:01.080
My granddaddy taught me how to survive with a knife.
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And I said, so I feel just it doesn't matter how much money you got, I can survive.
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And I'm a rich man, no matter how much money I got in the bank.
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Thank God, you know, Taylor Sheridan, I've got some money in the bank.
00:44:39.980
But I look at it as, I look at my life that I was rich.
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I'm rich, doesn't matter how much money is in the bank because of my friends and my family.
00:44:52.380
So, um, my mom gave me her old one horse trailer, 1957 model bought and paid 500 bucks for it.
00:45:02.240
Me and my little brother stared at the front of that trailer for probably a million miles going down the road in the back of the station wagon.
00:45:09.340
That trailer has been to every rodeo west of the Mississippi and in Canada and the United States.
00:45:15.120
But I pulled into a friend's house with it and needing to do some work on it and stuff.
00:45:21.640
And I had, I, me and this guy rodeoed together and sold Kirby vacuum cleaners together.
00:45:37.880
We fixed that trailer right up and I pulled it home back to New Mexico.
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And, uh, that's the kind of friends I have, you know, um,
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But I think that's the kind of friends that you make when you're in those communities.
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You know, everybody is, I, I, I, uh, I was having a big, uh, family reunion and we had just finished building, uh, the ranch.
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And we were way behind and all these trucks with furniture and everything coming in.
00:46:13.240
And like, I get off the air and I come upstairs and here are all my neighbors and they're putting sheets on the beds.
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I'm like, I'm, I'm, you shouldn't do this for me.
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You got relatives coming tomorrow and you're never going to be.
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I seen it, uh, when my, my dad died, I was seven.
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And, and people came fed our, fed our livestock for us, made meals for us.
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It was just, uh, I'm, uh, getting choked up remembering how the community just came to us.
00:47:15.620
And, um, my grandmother's funeral, there wasn't even room in the parking lot for people.
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I mean, they came from out of the woodwork for my grandma.
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And, um, but yeah, that's what I was raised with.
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And, and that's probably why I'm such an American now is because I've seen America at work.
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I've seen Americans and what they do and, and what they hold special to their heart.
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So how can we get, because there are in ways to Americas.
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And, and I think what, I think it's honestly not being around small towns and farmers and everything else.
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I think the city, and I, I know this for myself.
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I grew up in a small town, you know, there's garbage on the street.
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And I was in New York and I had been there for about three years and the taxes were out of control.
00:48:17.140
And I remember walking up to my building and there were newspapers and garbage blowing in the street.
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And I turned to my friend and I said, how much money do I have to pay for this to be a clean street?
00:48:30.700
And I stopped and I went, I've got to get out of the city.
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Because I was just, I was mad at the city for not doing something because that's the way you're trained in those big cities.
00:48:59.820
That's one of the reasons, low down, you know, on the list of reasons, but is to maybe get other people, wake other people up to that.
00:49:12.260
And one of the things I tell people is, you know, I've always, every day I try to make the world a better place.
00:49:21.660
And sometimes all it is, is being able to pick up some trash along the road or, or opening a door for somebody or helping somebody with something.
00:49:36.800
And that's one of the things, like where I live now, where I, wherever I've lived, I've always cleaned up the road.
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In front of my camp, when I was cowboying, it was clean.
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But if there's trash, because I live in a 400 person town, if there's trash someplace on the side of the road, I've stopped my truck, picked it all up and put it in the back of the truck and just, you know, take it to the dump or whatever.
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You don't think twice about that in a small town.
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You don't even think about that in a place like Dallas.
00:50:18.280
When I was a kid, we seen a truck and trailer, a truck pulling out of where we, one of our pasture leases where there's a creek and nice area.
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People like to come down there and picnic and camp and fish.
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Well, you said, well, sure enough, we ride down there and they'd left their garbage.
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So granddad says, yeah, I got their license number.
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So we ride back to the house and he calls his highway patrolman buddy and gets the address of this truck.
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We go back down and got some feed sacks, went back down, picked up all that garbage.
00:51:06.280
And we went to that guy's house and granddad spreads it out on his lawn.
00:51:13.640
And granddad said, well, you just did this to my lawn, my place.
00:51:20.140
Granddad tried to lure him out in the street because he wasn't going to hit him on his own property.
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And we didn't have much trouble with garbage after that.
00:51:44.840
When I was down on that ranch right on the Mexican border, I had taken about four days to fill up a storage tank for this one pasture.
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And what they had done was the illegals had come across and then knocked that spigot off that 10,000 gallon water tank to fill up their jugs.
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That's four days out of my life it takes to pump that full.
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I got every gun I had that I could carry on a horse.
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Well, they're laid up during the heat of the day.
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And I went, I'm too mad to speak Mexican USOBs.
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I says, you're in my, you're at my barn every night.
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When I turn the lights off at 1030, the dogs would go off.
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And I'd find toilet paper, clothes where they change clothes in my barn and stuff.
00:53:07.540
So I was like, guys, I don't call anybody on you.
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Now, I want my gates closed and leave my waters alone.
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And that, we were well about 15 miles north of the border then.
00:53:26.600
So a couple days later, I jumped some tracks going down, man, they left my gate.
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And the heifers and the cows are going to be mixed up.
00:53:40.860
Just in two days, that had got around all over the border that, hey, this vaquero, I mean, I give them food.
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And when you're that close to the border, you have to get along.
00:53:58.760
Because they can send somebody up there and snuff you and the person be back in Mexico before anybody even knows you're missing or gone.
00:54:13.120
And so the Border Patrol, I tried to talk to them before when I first moved there.
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I was like, hey, why don't you guys drive through my yard when you're coming and going to work?
00:54:28.080
I went to all the authorities and gave them the truck and told them I had people seen it being driven down across the border.
00:54:42.200
I went to the feed store to my buddy, Carlos, and I said, hey, call one of your buddies down there.
00:55:00.700
Everybody in San Carlos around my truck had a gun or a knife and stuff on them.
00:55:29.860
And, you know, if all the Americans, like, knew what went on down there at the border, I think they'd want a fence.
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They're starting to see it, though, in their own communities all across this country.
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Whenever you found luggage, it was always a woman's luggage because a cartel would steal them and take them.
00:55:55.960
The women, most women in them groups would be wearing ball caps and pants and trying to look as much like a man as they could.
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Because they're spotters, they're scouts watching everything that goes on down there on that border.
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Say, hey, you guys, aren't you the Border Patrol?
00:56:48.120
And they're like, yeah, we can't get in a confrontation with them.
00:56:54.180
And sure enough, there was guys in camouflage with automatic weapons and stuff.
00:57:28.600
They had cut the steel posts off at the ground level.
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And sure enough, laying over there, a six-foot stick,
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you prop that stick underneath where the posts were cut,
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I don't even get to the gate, just a range gate like every ranch has into Mexico.
00:58:00.320
In fact, I'd been into Mexico more times through range gates like that
00:58:23.820
and I brought me a little herd of cows on the U.S. side and held them up.
00:58:29.340
And I propped the fence up and sent my dogs down there into Mexico
00:58:37.260
and they went and brought them cows up to the other herd.
00:58:46.220
I hollered and let them know, hey, I'm getting my cows back.
00:58:51.520
There was three cows with a tight bag, meaning full.
00:58:57.120
And them other calves, the grass-fat, milk-fat calf,
00:59:07.480
But that's the kind of things that go on down there on the Mexican border
00:59:18.240
And I asked the guy, what are they fighting over?
00:59:23.800
Where you're at, the borderline of one cartel and another,
00:59:31.980
I've had one friend, I've seen them having gun battles,
00:59:37.420
like the Rat Pack, shooting at each other out of the back of trucks and stuff,
00:59:45.020
I come home one day, well, I'd moved from this camp,
00:59:55.280
and there's a truck backed up to the wellhouse unloading bundles of pot into my wellhouse.
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I rode up and asked them what was going on and stuff,
01:00:18.700
and this didn't all get figured out until later.
01:00:28.900
and it's hard to speak Mexican when the adrenaline's running.
01:00:35.680
And so we were having a tough time communicating,
01:00:43.760
So I went to town to a guy I knew that was involved with all this stuff,
01:00:51.740
And, see, that's another thing people don't realize is how much is run down there
01:01:09.980
and this guy comes riding up to me, old rancher,
01:01:27.880
He says, well, they were smuggling pot out of my place.
01:01:38.020
What they were doing was they were putting pot down
01:01:47.100
and then loading the cattle in on top of the plywood.
01:01:54.300
and every once in a while they have to turn somebody in.
01:01:58.220
One of the first ranches, I was dating a lady, a girl down there.
01:02:03.260
I'm Kelly Glenn, and they took me to a pasture,
01:02:09.400
and he says, now, when you're checking that south fence,
01:02:15.680
He says, just ride on by them like they aren't even there,
01:02:20.120
because there's somebody watching and making sure
01:02:32.340
Now they're just coming across with whatever they want.
01:02:34.880
And this is something that the public don't understand,
01:02:52.540
is that they're just going to poison the water supply.
01:03:01.080
will kill everybody that touches that water to their lips.
01:03:05.440
I've got a reverse osmosis, thank you, Patricia,
01:03:15.660
so I'm not having to worry about the community water.
01:03:24.980
making the drugs for the cartels to come into here.
01:03:34.640
The last two bunches of illegals I jumped on that ranch,
01:03:39.940
the last bunch were just as white as you and I are,
01:03:54.260
They were dark-complected, but, you know, I know.
01:04:04.640
But they had the ball caps and the Mexican clothes on.
01:04:12.820
What are they doing that they couldn't come in legally?
01:04:35.800
And all of the money's going back to communist China.
01:04:55.980
You know, it's not an American company anymore.
01:05:18.160
and United Artists got bought up by the Chinese.