The propaganda machine just suffered a critical blow. Now we have the opportunity to take it down once and for all. With me, the co-author of Propaganda Wars, Justin Haskins, and I will equip you to navigate the murky waters of misinformation leading up to Trump s Inauguration Day.
00:05:05.600I mean, the biggest problem that we're going to have over the next couple of years is that Trump is taking it seriously, his promise, to destroy the deep state.
00:06:35.180And then Trump goes on Joe Rogan, gets 100 million people watching, which is about four times as much that of anybody watching in the debates.
00:06:43.900And about a million times more than Kamala had online.
00:06:48.780I mean, ninety nine million more than what Kamala had.
00:06:54.320This is this was a repudiation of the mainstream media.
00:08:07.120And that and that is the most incredible part of the whole story.
00:08:10.660If you can't destroy one person when you're aligned with all of the powerful interests from the biggest banks and the biggest forces on Wall Street, like BlackRock and all of these people, the Great Reset Crowd, the World Economic Forum, the European Union.
00:08:26.520You have all of these powerful forces all working together to stop one person from becoming president.
00:08:37.900They still couldn't stop him from winning.
00:08:39.500If you can't do that, you are dead or almost dead.
00:08:43.700Now, what scares me about this, what scares me is when you put something in, when you put a dog in the corner, okay, when you corner an animal, what happens when they feel like their existence is on the verge of ending?
00:09:04.100And so what's so important about this book, it's unlike all the other books that we've done together where we're talking about issues and topics, important things.
00:09:13.040We do that in this book, too, things that people haven't heard of, like the Great Reset and ESG and all of these things we've covered in the past.
00:09:19.160But what makes this book special was we didn't want to just talk about problems.
00:09:22.720We wanted to give people the ability to become part of the solution and to fight back against it, be prepared for what's coming.
00:09:29.820Yeah, because this is, we're at a fork in the road right now.
00:09:37.300And with so many things, when it comes to the direction of the country, we just made a giant fork in the road.
00:09:47.340And the road that we're now on is the exact negative of the other.
00:09:53.520This one will save Western civilization.
00:09:56.440If Donald Trump can get done what he needs to get done, which includes the destruction of the WEF, maybe even the destruction of NATO or the U.N., the reversal of this mass immigration into the West.
00:10:14.200If he can get this done, it not just saves America, but it saves Europe.
00:11:00.480CNN is, you know, releasing stuff about Anderson Cooper makes $20 million a year and going to have to take some cuts because that ain't happening.
00:11:11.340I mean, they are about to go in a fire sale themselves.
00:11:15.820Somebody asked me, Glenn, what would CNN have to do to get you to believe them again?
00:12:27.240So I think the first step to all of this is to understand that going back, going back at least to early 2024, we've seen the playbook start to be rolled out.
00:12:41.160Uh, the there were all these war games that were being hosted.
00:12:46.540There were meetings and events all centered around this idea of another Russian collusion, Russian involvement in the election, setting the stage for the same old tired thing we've heard over and over and over again.
00:12:59.560Except this time, the difference was there was a lot of focus on deep fakes and emerging technologies and how these things might be used by Russia in the election.
00:13:09.060Which would you say they really weren't?
00:13:53.760Um, some of it piggybacking on government reports, things from the state department, all of this saying, oh, Russia is interfering in the election.
00:15:37.740I don't think that you coordinate all of these kinds of news stories for the week leading up to the election and after, unless that's the plan.
00:15:45.020State Department coming out and saying similar things.
00:16:10.760So what makes this time different is last time we had years of investigations, Robert Mueller, all of this crap where they're trying to find, well, what did Russia get out of it?
00:16:33.680And so all of the Russian collusion conspiracy theories kind of fell apart at that level because there's no exchange.
00:16:41.320Even if you can say Trump benefited from Facebook posts, which is what they were arguing, put out there by Russia, there was nothing that Trump gave them in return.
00:16:50.680So it didn't really make any sense on its face.
00:16:54.120This time around, they have a really predictable, really clear thing that they're going to argue Trump is going to give to Putin.
00:18:28.640Susan Wiles, like Susie Wiles, who I think is great, by the way.
00:18:32.760There was a complaint filed against her several years back, sort of an ethics complaint that said that while she was doing some campaign work for DeSantis, that she had secretly arranged some funding that came from Russia into the campaign.
00:18:51.920Now, I don't know anything about any of this.
00:18:53.820I have no idea whether it's true or not.
00:18:57.740But it's that they're already talking about this kind of stuff on MSNBC.
00:19:01.000So the narrative is perfectly set for them to go right back to the same thing again, except now there is something that Putin got in exchange.
00:19:36.880But they were able to show people, victims, on TV every single day.
00:19:42.580And to some extent, that was effective for quite a while.
00:19:45.520Now, if they can go to Ukraine and suddenly make this a interviewing people who lost all their children in the war, showing bombed out cities from Putin, showing horror stories of Russian troops raping innocent women.
00:20:01.000And Donald Trump is the one that that gave Putin the land is a sympathetic.
00:20:34.480But in a lot of situations, a gun isn't the answer because that means shooting to kill and you don't necessarily feel like it's up to that level.
00:22:30.520So and this is a big part of the book.
00:22:33.560So in when we talk about the propaganda industrial complex, we have an entire chapter on this.
00:22:39.280One of the main things that we point out is that if you look at the history of all sorts of different controversies that have emerged from the left,
00:22:48.300they never just go in with one strategy and then that they live or die by that strategy.
00:22:53.460They are doing a thousand strategies all at once and they hope that one of them works out.
00:23:06.300We've talked about this before in the air.
00:23:07.920Event 201, for people who don't know, was a war game that was being hosted by World Economic Forum, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, etc.
00:23:16.440in the run up to the it happened in October 2019.
00:23:21.780And the war game was what do we do if there is a big global international pandemic that kills a whole lot of people?
00:23:28.780And then not too long after that, that pandemic happened.
00:23:32.580A lot of people looked at that and said, well, they must have done it.
00:24:17.800And the purpose of this book is to prepare people for that, for anything that comes.
00:24:23.580So let's go through some of this because there are there are the tests in the book, which I I absolutely love the test because this is this is what we've done for 25 years to try to figure out, you know, just this is just as the beginning.
00:24:37.400This is the easy stuff that people don't think of.
00:24:41.220So the first thing that you have to do when you read something and you say, you know, wow, is this true?
00:24:48.500The first thing you have to do is the liar liar test.
00:24:54.120And watch because in all of these the media fails every single one of these tests.
00:24:59.780OK, so the liar liar test is if a source has been caught of information lying to you and this could be a personal someone, you know, personally, it could be a media source.
00:25:12.720But if they're caught outright lying, not just not being wrong, but being dishonest, then you have to hold them to a higher standard in the future.
00:26:44.900No normal person, honest person can can struggle to answer that question.
00:26:51.020And so if you're a good source of information, you need to be able to answer that question clearly.
00:26:57.440If you're not able to answer that question clearly, then we have to treat you like you're not a viable source of information that I can trust.
00:28:36.760And they were ruthless to him in the media because they can't have a really good black Republican in California because it undermines all the other narratives that they are constantly telling us about how white people are evil when it comes to African-Americans, especially in the Republican side.
00:28:55.980So there's this crazy story where Larry Elder in the midst of all of this stuff is at a campaign event.
00:29:02.840And a white liberal, I believe, woman dressed up in a gorilla suit, which is a racist, you know, it's racist in and of itself.
00:29:12.340Took eggs and threw them at Larry Elder.
00:29:16.580And yet somehow Larry Elder was the problem here.
00:29:23.480So when you have media outlets who would side with the woman dressed up in the racist gorilla suit throwing eggs at candidates over the Republican candidate who's black and he's the white supremacist, not her, you have a problem.
00:30:02.360They're the ones who told you that there's nothing to fear on the injections for COVID-19.
00:30:07.220I mean, there are so many obvious things now that and honestly, I think people should keep a journal.
00:30:12.860They should just keep a journal on the networks or the newspapers or the voices that when you find out they lied to you, wait a minute, you just said this.
00:33:15.460And they said, you know, some LGBTQ group was standing there supporting Hamas said, which one of these do you think would support your lifestyle?
00:33:27.460Which one would probably have you killed?
00:33:29.560They all selected Donald Trump's insane.
00:34:15.820That's that's one of our tests is the bloodthirsty tyrant test.
00:34:19.060Just when you have media outlets or people in your own life, even because these apply to people that, you know, personally as well.
00:34:26.720If you have someone who's sympathetic to Hamas and there are a lot of people who are sympathetic to them, whatever you might think of, they might they might be good people who have just been brainwashed, but you can't rely on them or trust what they're telling you.
00:34:42.060Because if they think that what happened on October 7th, well, it's bad, but, you know, it's just that's the natural outcome of what happened.
00:34:57.120If you take that view and a huge, disturbing number of people in this country have taken that view and in Europe and in other parts of the West, then you can't rely.
00:35:07.980You can't trust on you can't trust what they have to say.
00:35:10.100And whole media outlets have have at least hinted that that's.
00:35:14.500Yeah, I mean, you know, Israel's not the not the greatest and all this.
00:35:18.060I mean, that's a huge part of nobody wants to hear this, but it is absolutely true.
00:35:23.480We are living Germany, 1930s, and if you have a friend who says, ah, he doesn't really mean that, you know, yes, it's in Mein Kampf and he wants to get rid of the Jews and he doesn't really mean that.
00:35:59.840But people do what this society has done.
00:36:02.380Just keep making excuses as you go further and further down the road.
00:36:05.560And I think this is one of the reasons why so many people recently were, you know, red pilled into realizing that the left is actually tyrannical in a lot of ways.
00:36:16.500Like the Joe Rogans of the world, who was a former Bernie Sanders supporter, right?
00:36:21.460Elon Musk, who was a Barack Obama guy.
00:36:26.600And all the things, all these tendencies, these authoritarian tendencies that people like you and I have been talking about for a long time, you know, if they had the chance, they really would do this.
00:37:08.980And I think what the Republican Party or in some ways the conservative movement, maybe not the conservative movement, but the pro-liberty movement has become, is it's become a big tent.
00:39:15.500And that's how you can have a group of people voting for Donald Trump that includes Bernie Sanders supporting Joe Rogan and Thomas Massey and Donald Trump and Glenn Beck.
00:39:28.900And Tulsi Gabbard who ran for president as a Democrat.
00:42:11.920And there was this journalist whose name escapes me, who basically took a left leaning journalist who said, I'm just trying to find where are they getting this number from?
00:43:52.120It was madness that this was the way that they did it.
00:43:54.800But it turns out that the Hamas spokesperson was actually being more accurate than the New York Times, which is insane.
00:44:02.260But that's why you have to go back and look at all the original sources.
00:44:05.860And when you do, what you what you start to do is discover that so much of what you're reading, so much of what you're hearing is not actually 100 percent true.
00:44:20.420But a lot of times what people supposedly said when put into context is not what they actually meant or said.
00:44:27.640And the most famous example of this, of course, the very fine people thing that Donald Trump supposedly at Charlottesville said that he said those words, but you put him in context.
00:44:38.220He said it's so obvious that he didn't do that.
00:44:40.320Now, if every person who heard that story and saw that clip said, wait a minute, I want to see like the whole original source here, I want to see the whole clip, I want to know what he said in context, that story would never have gotten off the ground.
00:44:53.000The only reason it did is because regular people and people in media and liberal pundits at the very beginning of that didn't even want to know the context.
00:45:02.640They got what they they got the soundbite they wanted and they ran with it.
00:45:05.400And then a whole bunch of other people just trusted that the media was being honest with them when they said that this is what happened.
00:45:11.900And then even after that, even after the media went confronted endlessly with proof, the media still did it.
00:45:18.240And then the media started to say very recently, well, actually, no, that wasn't really what happened.
00:45:23.840And the campaign, the Kamala Harris campaign and the Biden campaign, they continue to lie about it.
00:45:29.080I know even after the Washington Post and Snopes and all these people said, no, this isn't true.
00:45:55.180It's that if that exists, it forces everyone else to move a little bit more in the freedom direction because you can't go full blown authoritarian if you're a Facebook or these other or Google or whatever.
00:46:11.140You can't go full blown authoritarian if there's another place for people to go.
00:46:17.240You have to at least keep that into consideration.
00:46:20.540And there is no denying that when when Musk took over X, the other companies started slowly to change their tunes, at least a little bit outwardly.
00:46:31.280And they're now all out there saying, oh, we need to be more fair and balanced and all of that.
00:46:37.260Social media companies are saying that they're not going to censor things as much anymore.
00:46:41.900You had the L.A. Times come out recently and fire its editorial board.
00:46:45.920And they're going to supposedly have a fair and balanced editorial board now at the L.A., left wing L.A. Times.
00:46:51.660Jeff Bezos, owner of The Washington Post, has said that he wants a lot more conservative writers at The Washington Post.
00:46:57.700Now, I don't trust any of those people.
00:47:00.000Because they lied to me a million times.
00:47:02.000They passed the liar liar test and a whole bunch of other things.
00:47:04.920Therefore, the bloodthirsty dictators.
00:47:06.820But all of that, I think, stems from Elon Musk, because if you can't control the whole narrative all the time, if there's a little bastion of truth somewhere, people will find it.
00:47:51.960One way or another, they would have deported him.
00:47:54.120And so, this book is, you know, a huge part of it is giving you information that you haven't heard before about all sorts of different things like deep fakes and interference from foreign governments and all of that.
00:48:05.300But we also want people to become activists.
00:49:35.100There's been these academic researchers who have, they had this idea that a lot of what's on the internet is actually not from real people.
00:49:45.700And they started doing tests on social media to find out, well, how much of the content that you see is actually from people or it's just some bot.
00:49:55.520And some of these studies show half of what you see is not real.
00:50:14.520China and Russia have hired thousands of people whose job it is to either generate AI bots or actually create fake personas and go online and spread misinformation.
00:50:28.260And they, they're all assigned what they're supposed to do.
00:50:32.700And then I believe it's towards the end of the day, others are assigned back to their compatriots to comment on those.
00:50:50.160And so to go back to your point about deep fakes, the, the, the thing about deep fakes is that the technology is getting to the point where you're not able to tell the difference anymore between what is real and what isn't.
00:51:03.560That's going to become even a bigger problem in the next five, within the next two to three years, it's going to become almost indistinguishable with video deep fakes.
00:51:14.400Audio deep fakes can sometimes be indistinguishable even now.
00:51:17.480But if people just took a healthy dose of, if they just had a healthy, you know, skeptical view of the internet in general, when they go on it, if they understood, I'm going into a war zone, a propaganda war zone.
00:51:29.900Every time I go on the internet and I, I'm, I can use the internet's a really powerful tool, but I have to recognize I'm going into a place that is at baseline, not trustworthy.
00:51:44.520And I think deep fakes then in that sense can be counteracted because you see a video on the internet, someone saying something, you just immediately go, I don't know.
00:51:53.760If that was your initial reaction, man, I don't know, probably not.
00:51:57.420Maybe we need to find out if that was everyone's initial reaction.
00:52:01.300And it isn't most people, they're just hitting the retweet button or they're, you know, I'm going to send this to all my friends and family and they're not, they're not taking that attitude.
00:52:10.440But if they did, then I don't know how much deep fakes even really matter.
00:52:14.720Now, if everybody said, but everybody has to do that, and that's the problem.
00:52:18.520But if, but if, but if the average person knew that half the stuff they see on social media isn't from real people, maybe they would take that approach.
00:52:27.780And we've, some of the tests that we've just done personally, you know, my Donald Kendall, who's done all these books with us, worked with us on this, you know, we ran all these, oh, he's awesome.
00:52:38.080I mean, we did all this research where we did tests like that.
00:52:42.080We would post things, we would go through comment sections, and you could tell tons of fake posts, not real people.
00:52:49.340You click on their profiles, you look at how many followers they have, how many other things they've said, almost nothing.
00:54:13.660And we all have to have that attitude going into it.
00:54:18.120For the longest time, I'd write these articles online, various news publications stuff.
00:54:23.240And my dad, bless his heart, reads every single thing that I do.
00:54:26.820And he would go in there, and he would read the comments in the comments section, and he'd write to me, and he would say, Justin, it's terrible what they're saying about you.
00:54:35.700And I commented back, and I'm mad about it.
00:54:38.220And I would say, Dad, don't ever read the comments section.
00:57:14.900This is something we talked about a lot in Dark Future in the last book that we put out before this one.
00:57:19.940Essentially, artificial intelligence at this point in time that we know of anyway, and some people dispute this, you might even dispute this, but it's not as smart as human beings at a wide variety of subjects.
00:57:37.040It's not as good at handling lots of different kinds of things.
00:57:40.680So, artificial intelligence, the way that it's built, it can be designed so that it's really exceptional at mathematics or at playing chess or at directing you to your destination or something way better than a human ever could be and instantaneously.
00:57:55.700But it's really bad at giving you directions and then the next moment telling you where your kids should go to college and then at the next moment playing classical music.
00:58:09.040It's not as smart as a human in that sense, but what they have been trying to do, AI researchers, for a while now is develop artificial intelligence that is as talented at reasoning and coming up with answers to a wide variety of problems in the same way that a human can, except it has the ability to surpass the human in a whole bunch of different ways.
00:58:34.200It can learn from you pretty quickly, especially with all the information out there about you, and it can understand you're playing a game, you're trying to figure something out, how to thwart you, what answers you are looking for, you want.
00:58:54.060It's playing against a room full of behavioral scientists that are all working as one instantaneously on you.
00:59:08.020It is the possible death of free will.
00:59:11.200You won't know if you chose it or if you were moved by artificial intelligence, general intelligence, moved into that decision.
00:59:21.800It's so disturbing, and the reason why people who support this and are trying to develop it actively want to do this is because there are all these advantages to having this superhuman intelligence because ASI is the next level from that.
00:59:39.160Some people say we'll never get to ASI.
00:59:42.900I think once you get to ASI, it will teach itself so fast that it will just be ASI almost automatically.
00:59:50.780I totally agree with that, and the idea is, well, it can cure cancer, and it can solve almost any problem that you want to give it, and it can learn everything instantaneously, and it can transform our lives and improve our economy and doing all that, and it can.
01:00:22.400You're not going to trust the doctor anymore because AI will be so superior because it can keep up with the latest of everything and balance all of this information and look at every side and come up with the answer.
01:00:40.760My wife is a doctor and much smarter than me, by the way.
01:00:45.540I'm married up for sure, and she will do these things called literature reviews.
01:00:50.320The whole point of it is, you know, you get the latest academic journal in the mail or whatever, and you start reading about this new procedure or this new thing, so you can be up on what's going on.
01:01:01.060ASI doesn't need, AGI doesn't need to do that.
01:01:03.360It just knows it because it's on the internet, and everything that's on the internet, it knows.
01:03:19.560And what's so scary about that is a artificial intelligence that is capable of doing anything
01:03:28.980and having its own reasons that we are not even capable of understanding because we're not smart enough to understand how it came to the calculation.
01:03:37.960A, could justify almost any action for reasons we don't know.
01:03:44.460And because it's smarter than us, who are we to say that it's wrong?
01:03:47.640So if it starts saying, for example, and we've already started seeing hints of this in writers who are affiliated with the World Economic Forum like Yuval Harari and other people who go out and say things like, well, AI kind of should be in charge of a lot of things.
01:04:04.100And eventually they're going to be taking over policymaking decisions and all of that.
01:04:08.160And we can't allow, we can't just say, well, let's put the brakes on all this because then China will have this superhuman intelligence and we won't.
01:04:17.160But once they start being trusted to make decisions, not just for doc medical decisions, but for all of society, well, then what if they say, well, you know, we would just be better off if we killed X number of people, you know, who have this gene at birth.
01:04:31.260Because in the end, we've done the math and society will be better off.
01:04:57.180And so all this is to say, people have to start having the difficult, they have to start taking the difficult steps of really taking responsibility for what they do on the internet, what the, how they think through problems, what they believe and what they don't believe.
01:05:15.760They need to take that seriously because as you pointed out earlier, how, how are people who are being fooled by bots on the internet, some crude Russian bot, how are they going to be prepared for the world of deep fakes?
01:05:31.860How are they going to be prepared for the world of AI, AGI, ASI?
01:05:38.120And we have to, because all of society is in peril at that point.
01:05:43.600You know, my kids think I'm crazy because I, I've said to them, you know, they, they'll, hey, Siri, you witch, why don't you, and I've said to them, don't.
01:06:25.340I was maybe one of the only people in the world who was even thinking about this, but this was in the midst of when we were doing Dark Future.
01:07:08.600And when they develop the next version of chat GPT, it will learn from the previous.
01:07:14.060And when that one, the next one develops, and the next one, and the next one, it's constantly learning from this depository of data that is there forever.
01:07:20.740It will read news articles in the future, AI, about how people loved to fool AI.
01:07:27.300And what does that say about humanity?
01:07:29.140It's certainly, if you're smarter than all of humanity, and you think humanity lies to you to try to get you to do something that is wrong, how are you going to?
01:07:41.400Well, if you're not having personal interactions with your neighbors, I mean, face-to-face conversations, you only understand your neighbors through what they've read or what they've written online.
01:07:56.320Online, you have a very low, very, very low expectation or impression of your neighborhood.
01:08:09.200And that's my, yeah, and that's one of the themes of this whole book is the internet is, we need to move back to a place where humans are human again.
01:08:19.640And they start developing real personal relationships with actual people in the real world, not online.