Ep 248 ｜ Kid Rock’s WILD White House Dinner Plan to Unite America ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast
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Kid Rock is a conservative rock star who refuses to be put into a box. He s conservative, but he s also a rock star. He loves Jesus, but drops the F-bomb when he wants to be. And in that way, he is a red-blooded, old-fashioned American hero. I mean, he s a cowboy, except he s from Detroit. He does not comply to any kind of tyranny in any way. He won t be politically correct. And he s not going to stop loving his country, even when it s unpopular and it costs him friends or even audience.
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Today, I sit down with a man who refuses to be put into a box.
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He loves Jesus, but he drops the F-bomb whenever he wants to.
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He is whoever he wants to be, and in that way, he is a red-blooded, old-fashioned American hero.
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I mean, he's a cowboy, except he's not a cowboy.
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He does not comply to any kind of tyranny in any way.
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He won't be politically correct, and he's not going to stop loving his country, even when it's unpopular, and it costs him friends or even audience.
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We get into everything today, from the rodeo to rock and roll to his plans to bring his liberal friend, Bill Maher, to someplace you would least expect.
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Please welcome the original American badass, Kid Rock.
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I have to tell you, I don't get nervous for interviews or anything, but you're a cool kid, and I've never been the cool kid.
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I feel like I'm going to be sitting in the lunchroom, and I'm about to be beaten up.
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It's, I mean, I just, I'm just an honest person.
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That's kind of how simple it is, but so it wasn't really, you know, it came to a point where it wasn't, once you've seen behind the curtain in this business.
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It's disgusting, and just didn't want to play that game, you know, with the awards, and this, that, and the other, and the politics involved with this, and that, and the radio, and all that.
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And I'd say for a rainy day, that definitely was a factor in things.
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Where, you know, and I just, you know, I've always said I don't give a F, and that's very true in a lot of ways, but it's kind of thin things out.
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I'm sorry, to make the point for your question was, it's like, you know, you do something, and your friends, you get this group of friends that kind of turns their back on you.
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You know, because I can talk to anybody from any side of whatever.
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If they're a little bit reasonable, just be a little bit reasonable.
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Because you have done everything with everybody.
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I mean, Sheryl Crow is not necessarily one that jumps to the mind.
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So, we're here at, because you're starting something with PBR and the rodeo.
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You know, beautiful home, beautiful spread and all that.
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It was far from growing up as a cowboy or a rodeo.
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Although, you know, my parents were into that stuff, you know.
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They used to go like to watch this fiddle player, Sneaky Pete, this little dirt floor place.
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And, you know, dad liked to ride his horse and things like that.
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It wasn't until probably 20, I don't know if it was 20, 25 years ago when I started performing at high levels and started doing rodeos.
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I remember I was on CNN and I used to call myself a rodeo clown.
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Until I got the president of the Rodeo Clown Association, wrote to me and said, do you know what rodeo clowns do?
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I mean, it is really badass to use your language.
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And, you know, it's one of the toughest sports.
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I mean, like, cowboys and that whole lifestyle, cowgirls, they're just tough people.
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I mean, just the way they live, they work so hard.
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The way they raise their families, the way they love this country.
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It's weird because I think we were on the verge of absolutely flushing all of it away.
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You know, I grew up in the West and there's something about those mountains that when you get to the mountains, you know, which one am I?
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Am I going to be the one in the wagon train that actually crossed those or am I going to be like, I'm out?
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There's something about the West that is American unlike any other place.
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I think we've seen it in so many picture books and so many different things, you know.
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And America owns that, you know, cowboy culture.
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You know, you think, you know, it's the greatest movies, it's the greatest tales, you know, whether it's campfire sing-alongs or, you know, cowboys and Indians, whatever it is.
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It's just, I just, arguably tough, you know, just the coolest American thing ever.
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Rock and roll, give it a good run, but, you know.
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It comes back down to this, though, that the independent spirit of rock and roll.
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And I think you just summed it up there, the independent spirit of a cowboy.
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That's really, I mean, that is independence and freedom.
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Like, the open range, everything with it, a gun on your side.
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Like, hey, you know, you get out of line and you're really wrong, you just get shot.
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But we're not going to have a big meeting about it with a bunch of guys with white hair on and, like, this thing's like, oh, you're just being an idiot and you're an asshole and boom.
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Oh, everybody was looking at Yellowstone that, you know, that critics from, you know, back east, whatever, that just didn't understand it.
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And what it was, was we're living in a time where the bad guys don't pay.
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It doesn't seem like anybody who's connected, you know, pays for anything.
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And we got to thank that guy, Taylor Sheridan, like, because now it's, like, pretty much half the country, you know, I guess we call them as divided as things are.
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It's like half the country, the girls, like, they're all just dressing up as sexy cowgirls now.
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It's better than, like, the blue hair and the big nose ring.
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There's nothing sexier than a woman on the horse with the flag going around and riding around.
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So, Generation X was really responsible in many ways for Trump's win.
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You start confusing me with big words and terms.
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So, X, what is the, is there something different about that generation?
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I think we just kind of, I mean, the way I grew up was like, you went into dumb stuff.
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You got your buddies and your bikes at the gravel pit and you're like, which one's going to go first?
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You know, go down this huge hill with no helmet on and like, yeah, somebody broke their arm or got hurt, this, that, and the other.
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And it's such a conundrum, especially, you know, having to raise a son and having a couple grandkids now.
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But you're like, man, you got to get some bumps and bruises at the same time.
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But God forbid something happened to your child or their friend that was horrible.
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You're like, you're caught in this, I call it kind of, I don't know how else to say it, but the pussification of America.
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I mean, I'm sitting there watching Trump's speech last night and somehow it came into my head.
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Like, what if George Washington was sitting here listening to this or like one of our forefathers?
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And I'm like, can you believe these mofos would be like, I mean, he's like, and there are only two genders, male and female.
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And George Washington's like, the hell has been going on here?
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Talking about advancing America and making a great society and living free.
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And he's like, hey, there's all the men and women.
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You could go to George W. Bush back in the day and say that.
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He was probably sitting at home laughing along with, like, are you kidding me?
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We actually have to say this like in a big speech.
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What the hell is, what is wrong with, you saw them last night.
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And they always just look weird to me, like these far left people.
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I can usually tell by the glasses they're wearing.
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But, yeah, you can literally, I was talking with a buddy last night.
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It's something about, and I'm not talking their physical looks.
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And it's not just now because they lost and they got to take a whooping from the principal
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It's just they've always just looked kind of, I mean.
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There's women protesting outside of abortion centers.
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It's the opposite of the girl with the flag on the horse.
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Imagine not being able to clap for the little boy who had brain surgery and brain cancer.
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Actually saying, as Elizabeth Warren did, yeah, five more years of war.
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She, the, I actually have pity for them because I can't imagine living your life like that.
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I didn't even know he had brain cancer when they first started.
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Like, we're making him a FBI agent or a Secret Service guy or whatever and this, that, and
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And then they say, his brain cancer is like, oh, you know, God bless him, you know?
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You were just, weren't you just golfing with Trump and Elon Musk?
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No, he came out and hung with us like the last three, four holes or something.
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He, one thing is, the age of the president, he's 78, and I don't think I could keep up
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I don't know, because God bless him, like, it's not from like eating the healthiest foods.
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God bless me, it's just, I mean, you couldn't pick an American out like bacon.
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And like, you know, a few holes in it, he's like, you want a Hershey's bar?
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Yeah, everything that RFK is going to say is bad, he does.
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Did you know him before, during the first term?
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I met him, I endorsed him in Rolling Stone, like, as soon as he came down that elevator,
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This dude, I don't care who somebody slept with or what they did, you know, these little
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I'm like, I don't care if they're not like, you know, doing weird stuff with kids or like
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I'm like, let somebody who knows how to run a business get in there.
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Didn't know him, but I was pretty vocal about it.
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Of course, it took a ton of crap, which I like.
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Like, the last guy that's going to get upset, you know, sticks and stones, I'm the sticks
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And then Sarah Palin, I knew her a little bit and the first couple months of him being
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in office, she got invited to dinner and the president told her to bring some interesting
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I remember, you know, having an awesome time at the White House and it's just what, you
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know, when you meet somebody and they're just, you could tell they're kind of cut from the
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Because he, I mean, you cannot relate to his kind of wealth, Elon, the same way.
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And yet, he's not, he's not, he's not what you think he is.
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I told a buddy yesterday, I'm like, you know, I've got to spend a few times with Elon now.
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And I was like, I'm not even thinking about how much money this guy, like, to me, it looks
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like he doesn't have two nickels to rub together.
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Like, you know, you just said, dude, we're clowning about this new app he has and we were
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making jokes at the UFC and it's kind of the same with Trump.
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You know, of course, all the stuff you're around, you're like, wow.
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And I love that stuff because this whole Hollywood thing is always like, it's this cool Hollywood
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thing not to put a picture of yourself in the house, you know, not to have your awards
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Have you seen over, I think it's in the bar of Mar-a-Lago, he's got the picture on the
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He's got the picture of him with the tennis racket.
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Like, I don't think you ever really played tennis, but I love the idea.
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You know, I don't think people get sometimes, like, same with me, but sometimes I'm doing
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They don't realize I'm laughing harder at myself than you're laughing.
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And there's a fine, you know, there's a fine line there with some of it, but we're just
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kind of cut from the same cloth on a lot of things.
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And Tucker Carlson said it, he introduced me at this show, our first year at this festival
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And he said one of the most poignant things I've ever heard.
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He was describing, like, what does a real American look like?
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And he's describing me, to intro me, and he goes, he would be both disobedient, but decent.
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I was watching the speech last night, and Trump may have used the word revolution, but it
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struck me as I'm watching, I thought, this is a revolution without any bloodshed.
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This is, and I don't think people really understand that yet.
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Cultural revolution, number one, and that really spills over into politics.
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So do you think that that cultural revolution is lasting or real?
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I keep, you know, we're only, what, six, seven weeks into it.
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And so you're kind of like, okay, is this really going to last?
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Literally, I think we lost our mind as a country.
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You know, it's just, it's just that pendulum swings and like, does it have to keep swinging
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You know, I'd like it just to be like a little right over here.
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But I just hope it doesn't go back and forth and we get in this, you know, boom where it's
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We can't survive as a country if we keep doing that.
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No, we got to just remember we're all on the same team.
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And most reasonable people can have discussions and agree to disagree.
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I mean, it's the little thing in the book, find common ground, you know, here and there.
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And just, you know, okay, you're pro-union, somebody had a bad experience with them here
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and their boss was taking too much money and it got corrupt.
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And, you know, you can have different points on many things and still be rational and reasonable.
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It's just unreasonable people, nah, put their heads in guillotines at this point.
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Don't just tell me Pam's not building any guillotines, Pam Bondi.
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So you were, weren't you just with Pam on Ticketmaster?
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I had dinner with her at Mar-a-Lago before she got sworn in.
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And it's not really, I mean, I've said this, like Ticketmaster, like they've been bad actors for years.
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If the DOJ takes them out and makes them sell their company, I will not shed a tear.
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It does not solve the problem of trying to get concert tickets into people's hands
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if the prices artists want to set because of the bots, the scalpers, the bad actors.
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And actually the president just appointed Alina Haba to spearhead my ticketing thing,
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which is basically there's several things to it.
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But the main thing is, and I'm a deregulation guy.
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I have to do it like France did and a few other people.
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We need to cap the resale of tickets at like between 10% and 20%.
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Otherwise, American people are just getting screwed.
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And you're just handing money to the bad actors, to the bots, the scalpers, the set, and the other.
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And the American people, and I told the president, I go,
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What do people really want after to be safe and to have a good economy,
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to be making money, to be able to take care of their families?
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If we can get this done, you're going to be a hero
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because people are going to not have to decide whether to come to one of my shows
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What is the difference that you see your tickets scalped for?
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What do your tickets go for, and then what do you see them scalped for?
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Well, you can't put them for what you want anymore.
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If I think like, hey, I'm going to play for a $100 ticket for these really good seats,
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then it's going to be $50 for the other ones, the higher seats, this, that, and the other.
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The bots and the scalper is going to eat those all up,
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and those front ones are going to be anywhere from $500 to $2,500 to whatever they can get.
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Those high ones, so now you have to do this, what do they call it, price, dynamic pricing.
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So you're trying to cut the scalpers down because, hey, let's face it, like I said, I'm a capitalist.
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I'm not going to be a good guy and sell my tickets for, you know, whatever, $20,
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Well, if there's no other way to do it, I'm making the money,
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and I'm going to take care of the people I want to take care of.
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You know, if you can't go, maybe, you know, 48 hours before,
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We've been trying to solve this for decades, and literally the quickest way right now
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is to put a cap on the resale, and it's really bad in sports,
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So what is the, is it because, or is it just because of the scalpers,
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or does this have anything to do with, I mean, I remember when Michael Jackson went on tour
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and he was charging $19 a ticket, remember, for the victory tour,
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But it was a big deal because his tickets were $19, and that was, I think the highest ticket
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There's just, you know, I've never had to ride around my windows tinted here and there
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because I've made an unhonest dollar of a working man's back, and I'm very proud of that.
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But at the same time, I'm like, the way the system's set up now, you know, this is why
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managers who are now have really become record companies, which, by the way, Live Nation owns
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This, that, and the other is, it's gotten so out of hand.
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There's just, you know, the managers don't want to solve it because you're making more
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I'm like, there's enough money in here for everybody.
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If I book this building, the promoter, the building owners, there's plenty of money for
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The promoter of the show, there's plenty of them to make.
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There's plenty of money for us to make as a band.
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And it's just got, ask anybody who's bought a concert ticket in the last, whatever, decade
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Now, there is a supply and demand thing that people got to understand.
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If I'm going on tour and there's 300,000 tickets and 700,000 people want to go, certain
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Well, that's, no, the dynamic pricing is, you do dynamic pricing to certain levels.
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The front row is not worth this, but I don't like to sell my front row.
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But if you do dynamic pricing and you don't have the bots and the scalpers,
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Yeah, if you can only, yeah, then it will work.
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If you can only sell it 10% over what you paid for it, of the all-in pricing, that's
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the other thing it's on, the bill or whatever, executive order is going to pass.
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It's like, you know, you can't get to the, you can't buy a $100 ticket and then you go
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What is the, um, what's the business like now compared to when you first got in?
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Oh, it's just full of scoundrels and scumbags, rip off con artists.
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Now, of course they do promotion and artist development and things like that.
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When you break it down to brass tacks, kind of giving you a loan.
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And then after that, they basically take 80% of everything you make.
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Now there's a lot of money and there's an argument.
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You know, I like to argue both sides that, you know, the artists go out and make the money
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And, you know, the record companies usually don't share in that.
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But, I mean, they've been, they were charging artists for years.
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Like when records were out, certain percentage of those records would get broke in transit.
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So they had a 10% free goods clause, which means they charge an extra 10% because 10% of those
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Look at the payoffs, you know, if you've ever read any of the books of the payola for radio.
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The way these award shows work, the Grammys and the Oscars, they're such horse shit.
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I think there was some, if I had to take an educated guess, there's some freaky stuff going on.
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You know, if there's certain, you know, I don't know.
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But, you know, you look at Epstein, you look at Diddy, and then you go to Pizzagate, and
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you're like, okay, they didn't have children in the basement of that pizza place.
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But there's something collectively, I think, in our universal mind that we're like, something's
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There's the marketing and selling of children for sex.
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We should go to medieval times on that, in my opinion.
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I couldn't do enough evil things to the pedophiles.
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But, you know, the other stuff, you know, you see a lot of people in business, this,
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that, and the other, you know, especially when you're younger starting out, everything's
00:30:07.280
You know, I got money and this, that, and the other, and things are wild, you know?
00:30:10.500
But I said from day one, I was like, you guys realize, you get more girls if you treat
00:30:22.340
I don't have to, you know, MIT to figure that out.
00:30:29.420
I mean, I know you did cocaine, but that's not what others have done.
00:30:42.360
I had custody of my son since he was very, very young.
00:30:45.840
I mean, he was dropped off on my doorstep at six months and was raising him.
00:30:48.760
And then, of course, when I got some money, came back looking for, you know?
00:30:51.940
So I pretty much had him the whole time, but I had great help with his godmother.
00:31:01.240
You know, I'd pick my windows and I'd be Mr. Rockstar.
00:31:04.420
But then I had to drive to field trips and, you know, and be dad a lot of time.
00:31:25.340
So can we go down that road for a minute, though?
00:31:28.740
We had to go to court the one time and, like, these people are going to have to get up there
00:31:39.140
I'm actually making some money with this thing, man.
00:31:48.720
I mean, there are times when you're like, I know, are you always Bob Ritchie?
00:32:00.740
Sometimes I do, you know, when I'm screwing with people and just trying to get their panties in a bunch,
00:32:07.140
Sometimes I'll point something real poignant, and that'll be from Bob Ritchie.
00:32:10.120
And then sometimes I'll post from both of them, and I've kind of enjoyed that.
00:32:13.100
Yeah, the video between Kid Rock and Bob Ritchie after president, yeah, was elected.
00:32:26.760
Like, the media had been messing with me for how many years, you know.
00:32:29.340
He's just a washed up this, that, and the other.
00:32:30.920
Meanwhile, I'm selling out every show, you know, operating at the highest levels in this business.
00:32:34.700
But, you know, they're trying to create this thing, because I love Trump, you know, in any little thing I do.
00:32:42.460
Apparently, I was at this little redneck bar Sunday night after playing with the president.
00:32:46.920
We had dinner, and then we had some drinks after.
00:32:49.360
So I said, let's stop at this little redneck bar.
00:32:55.220
Having some fun with the few locals that are in there.
00:33:03.240
But somebody, then TMZ contacts, and they're like, you know, like, we're going to, somebody got a video.
00:33:07.800
You know, these people that can't do nothing but video everything you do.
00:33:23.020
I was like, my brother goes, you were actually trying to help her.
00:33:25.700
He's like, because I'm on this huge health kick.
00:33:27.960
And somehow it came up, and I was saying something.
00:33:35.240
Like, you could, you know, use my program a little bit.
00:33:40.320
I'm actually getting ready to shoot a video on my health program because a lot of my fans, I think, a lot of people in my circle got on board.
00:33:47.200
It really cleaned up a lot of eating habits and started doing things.
00:33:51.080
You know, they always say you have influence over people.
00:33:53.480
Never really realized it like that to people that were close.
00:33:59.340
Like, the TMZ is like, so Elon showed me this new AI thing.
00:34:10.880
Like, I see Grok, and then, you know, what is it?
00:34:24.240
He's the smartest, richest man, and then there are times he's like, I'm just going to screw it.
00:34:34.160
I think it's, you know, I get the trolling thing.
00:34:37.380
But I think it's, I would call it more non-conforming.
00:34:41.600
It's like we're not going to conform to this political correctness.
00:34:44.580
Nobody can take a joke anymore or somebody hurt my feelings.
00:34:54.320
I'm like, we're not going to hear Step Brothers again or like The Hangover.
00:35:12.940
That's, I think, why I like the Tesla, what is it?
00:35:22.900
And I'm like, that's, I think, part of the point.
00:35:37.920
So he's also pushing the boundaries, but in an unbelievable way, he's changing so many
00:35:48.240
You know, at the end of the day, that's what it is.
00:35:51.020
You mean to tell me you can't have some fun while you're doing that?
00:35:53.420
I mean, that to me is when people get too serious and take themselves too serious.
00:35:57.580
It's, I don't know, it just, it looks miserable.
00:36:01.900
Do you, are you up on the AI, artificial general intelligence or singularity?
00:36:16.880
I mean, I didn't see that on Hinge thing until Sunday.
00:36:19.540
I was like, he literally just took all, I was using ChatGPT.
00:36:23.280
He literally just took all their users and they're like, what?
00:36:26.900
So I can actually get the info I want, but I can also have some like complete bonkers fun
00:36:36.040
I'm like, and I invested in Tesla a while back and I am not the electrician.
00:36:40.900
I was, I mean, I'm a muscle car, this, that, the other, my car collection.
00:36:44.560
I'm like, I'd get one and I like got that thing and I was like, oh my God, my mind's
00:36:51.060
I told him, I go, I don't think, you know, you created the greatest farm truck ever.
00:36:55.780
I doubt you guys, you and your engineers were thinking of this.
00:36:58.640
I'm like, but as someone who has a farm and likes to hunt and likes the outdoors, I'm
00:37:01.620
like, I don't drive my Can-Am anymore, my Polaris.
00:37:04.660
I'm like, I got a long gun locked in the front.
00:37:08.160
If I see a skunk or a coyote that we trapped or something, I go, I drive by wild turkeys
00:37:12.100
or, or, you know, deer, there'd be a 10 point bucks in there.
00:37:23.720
I'm like, he goes, yeah, we didn't design it for that.
00:37:29.240
Never know how someone's going to use new technology.
00:37:40.800
One of the first, one of the last few left, but it just sat there for years.
00:37:47.580
I love, that's what I love about Leno is he, he's, they have to be driven.
00:38:05.080
The, I read that you used to say you are socially liberal and fiscally conservative.
00:38:26.120
I was like, I got gay people in my band, you know, everyone's got gay family members, something
00:38:30.700
I don't know what to make of it still, but I don't care.
00:38:36.440
Don't, I don't want to teach them my grandchildren this, like teach them how to write and do arithmetic
00:38:40.540
and stuff, you know, be socially, you know, conscious and, you know, to a certain degree
00:38:44.720
and, you know, want a better world and treat people right.
00:38:51.980
It's just, you know, so I'm still socially liberal.
00:38:54.980
I would say I'm like live and let live to a certain extent, but then it just got too
00:39:00.680
I mean, you tell me that's not a freaking mental illness.
00:39:04.040
I'm like, you know, all these different things that happen with these shooters and
00:39:07.440
this, that, and the other, there's too many nutty people out there to begin with.
00:39:10.840
Like, you know, Ted Nugent said, and I agree with him.
00:39:12.900
He said that at that dinner, actually at the white house, he's like, you know, we're
00:39:16.680
talking politics a little bit and I'm like, I just shut up and eat.
00:39:19.420
Like, I don't, I don't, I'm not really, you know, self-educated in this where I need to
00:39:28.240
I'm like, but Ted said, he goes, we started talking about, he goes, sir, I need to bring
00:39:35.420
He goes, remember they got rid of all the nut houses and those people got nowhere to
00:39:38.760
And now they're just running around the streets.
00:39:45.920
It's amazing to me how bat crap crazy everybody is.
00:40:06.600
You know, it was button up and, you know, this, that, and the other, you know, as someone
00:40:09.380
who made a career out of, you know, using four letter words, you know, pushing the envelope
00:40:14.980
and being a little wild, this, that, and the other, but still had those values from, you
00:40:20.580
Yeah, it's completely changed immensely, as you know.
00:40:30.700
When he's just a regular guy, he's not buttoned up.
00:40:34.420
And that's, that's what I want out of a president to some degree.
00:40:37.660
I want, you know, he is so unpredictable, if you don't know him, if you don't, if you
00:40:44.380
don't get it, he is so damn unpredictable that he's just.
00:40:51.340
He's just running circles around everybody and everybody's like, this is crazy.
00:41:02.520
Like the press just can't, because now it's a point where they have to get clicks and views,
00:41:11.480
You know, it used to be, okay, we got to go to Europe for this amount of time.
00:41:17.820
Now I just, you know, like, you know, call Oprah a bad name and say, I got a new record
00:41:28.980
You know, if they would, if they would just use the old thing, just he'll tire himself out.
00:41:38.360
You have no problem letting everybody, you know, the politicians especially, they don't
00:41:53.280
If I heard Kamala Harris say middle class family one more time, I was going to hang myself.
00:41:57.980
You're the kind of guy, and I don't, I don't think it's different, but I think politicians
00:42:14.260
I don't think they understand that it's not the amount of money that you have or anything
00:42:21.560
Maybe that changes them, but it doesn't have to change you.
00:42:24.480
You can still be the guy who, like Donald Trump, loves people.
00:42:38.300
And everything is shattering everything that is this bogus plastic, has been bogus plastic
00:42:47.760
Do we, do we, what does the world look like at the end of four years?
00:43:02.660
I hope we can bring, I really hope we can, I'm actually going to try to unite this country
00:43:08.600
and I'm starting the end of the month, taking Bill Maher to the White House for dinner.
00:43:14.840
This guy has done nothing but talk smack about the president for, since day one.
00:43:22.920
And, you know, I can have conversations with him, you know, if you don't get into Trump,
00:43:29.060
He's like, I don't, I'm like, let's talk about other things.
00:43:32.300
He's actually, you know, more reasonable than a lot of people on the right would think.
00:43:36.940
Especially the last, maybe four years or whatever.
00:43:38.540
So I said, so I said to him, I was doing his podcast and I said, if I can hook you guys
00:43:44.380
And trust me, there's a lot more people deserving at that table, you know, for dinner.
00:43:47.880
So it's a big deal to me to, you know, bring him there and even have the president be like,
00:43:56.240
Let's start at the top where you, you know, very public figures, him, television comedian,
00:44:02.960
You know, we could just break bread and have some laughs, take a picture and be like, hey,
00:44:06.240
you know, we don't agree on everything, but we got along.
00:44:08.680
Like, does that send, does that start to send a message to people or do they just think
00:44:16.880
Like, I'm like, man, I think we just got to start somewhere like there and be like, look,
00:44:23.600
Like, maybe call that family member that you got into it over politics or that person,
00:44:29.060
you know, at the school that, you know, you don't like to talk to anymore that you
00:44:34.480
Maybe just get back with him and be like, look, man, it's okay.
00:44:38.680
Anybody that is not pushing that is anybody who is saying, don't talk to your family member.
00:44:52.020
I could really, me and Cheryl just got into it over like uncontrolled and we've had some
00:44:58.300
And then I was just like, no, it's not, I still love her to death.
00:45:02.440
You know, she's like a sister to me, you know, but it's like, yeah, she's not first call
00:45:07.820
anymore on the dinner list, you know, on the dinner invite.
00:45:16.200
But I know we can still be cordial and have some laughs in the room.
00:45:22.480
Did you see what happened with J.D. Vance over in Europe a couple of weeks ago?
00:45:29.960
Did you see the foreign minister of Germany after it was over?
00:45:34.160
He openly wept and said, I learned a lot this week after listening to his speech.
00:45:42.900
We no longer have as much as we thought we had in common with the Americans.
00:45:49.800
And I thought, if that's actually what you believe, I don't want to be a NATO.
00:45:55.560
I don't, I don't, why, you're on the other end.
00:45:59.700
As soon as the red flag went up and it was crying, you're like, yeah, especially a German.
00:46:24.500
We all have a ton in common, but you know, they like to keep us polarizing that media on all
00:46:29.900
You know, to be fair, to be fair on all sides, a lot more on the left side.
00:46:34.220
But I mean, everything's become this social media freaking media nightmare.
00:46:40.560
It's just like, it's just, there's too much information.
00:46:44.720
I don't, all me and my friends do is send memes to each other.
00:46:49.400
I'm like, I don't want to hear about your trip.
00:46:51.320
I don't want to see it on Facebook or, you know, the tweets or whatever.
00:46:55.140
Like, and we get together and we golf, we have dinner or whatever.
00:47:06.580
If it's really that big of a deal, send me a card.
00:47:10.680
I was like, I just don't need 300 texts coming in.
00:47:20.280
Tell me about the concert coming up this summer.
00:47:26.780
And, you know, I've usually been like, not, not, not too big on politics in the show.
00:47:41.260
I'm doing seven arenas, which are going to be a blast.
00:47:44.640
And then I do this Rock the Country Music Festival, which just, no one had ever started
00:47:49.360
a music festival for hardworking people who love this country.
00:47:54.300
It used to be, I mean, Hank Williams, Leonard Skinner, I mean, that's, that's, that was
00:48:04.040
We do those in very small towns, middle of fields or, you know, public places like these
00:48:08.360
very, I mean, you don't know where these towns are.
00:48:17.480
And it's literally, I mean, our lighting rig out by the soundboard is a cross.
00:48:24.300
There's thousands of American flags we put up everywhere.
00:48:27.920
It's just, it's just a celebrating America, listening to music.
00:48:30.520
And like, these people are the greatest people.
00:48:33.320
I don't just say that because they're paying money to come to my stuff.
00:48:36.100
I'm not that shallow, but I mean, literally I've heard this from everybody.
00:48:39.340
You can walk through this rock and roll outlaw country crowd with 30,000 people there.
00:48:45.900
You can walk right through to the bathroom, walk back.
00:48:53.220
Like, it was just, these things don't, we have more problems than my honky-tonk in Nashville.
00:49:09.540
Usually when you add alcohol to any situation, you know, somebody's going to get into it.
00:49:14.540
But it's still, there is something about the American that everybody in the media has forgotten.
00:49:31.620
And I think that's why he's doing so well, uh, right now.
00:49:35.980
He's, I've never seen a president who said, I'm writing down everything.
00:49:42.980
And then I'm just going to start not checking them off in priority order.
00:49:52.140
It's like, he's just checking that list off like.
00:49:54.960
And that shows for the first time, a politician who does not,
00:50:04.920
He's not coming out and saying, I'm just like you.
00:50:11.840
It's, it's, uh, I've never seen anything like it.
00:50:14.020
And this is the first guy that's, you know, the first administration that started like,
00:50:24.100
You know, especially supporting politicians through the years, this, that, and the other.
00:50:27.140
I'm like, why don't you mother, why don't you people look for this?
00:50:34.460
But I don't know if we could have done it as, at least as effectively as Musk can do
00:50:39.660
I mean, you know, in three years from now, the AI we have going over the budget.
00:50:45.280
We're going to know everything about these politicians.
00:50:48.640
You know, I've been doing research for years, have hired attorneys at certain points, you
00:50:52.700
know, people to get info, this, that, and the other.
00:50:54.560
Sometimes I always don't give it to you in their yearly reports.
00:51:06.880
There, there's a, a group that has tested 500,000 songs and ranked them.
00:51:22.500
Well, the way I figured, I actually met with a young man that, um, and had some other prominent
00:51:26.780
musicians and record heads to have an off the record conversation about AI and music.
00:51:31.600
And the app's called Suno and it's bananas because it's pretty dang good.
00:51:39.380
See, what Spotify's doing is a lot of their, you know, they have to pay money every time
00:51:46.260
You put on a, a beach, a beach playlist that has a hundred songs.
00:51:50.380
20 of those songs might be by some artists you never heard of because AI created it.
00:51:58.660
But the way I looked at it is I looked at like Napster when that started and I was like,
00:52:03.700
And, you know, all the artists were up in arms and the record companies wanted us to
00:52:06.900
get behind, you know, they're stealing, they're pirating music.
00:52:18.900
But now with, with AI, I'm like, so I'm asking this guy and I'm like, so I can give
00:52:24.240
you some acapellas of my vocals and you can model my voice and then you can put it on your
00:52:28.940
system and however many people want to write songs for me with my voice can write them.
00:52:35.640
So I could have like a hundred thousand people writing.
00:52:37.360
Now there's going to be some funny ones and they're like, you know, Kid Rock, Joe Biden.
00:52:43.040
But let's say I got a million people writing songs for me.
00:52:45.640
If one of those person nails it and they come up with this, you know, with this life changing
00:52:54.060
I'm like, I don't, I'm not seeing the evil in here yet.
00:52:57.740
You know, the record companies and managers get all the artists up in arms about, we're
00:53:06.980
So it's like, let's figure out how we use it as a new tool the best, like anything else
00:53:11.840
Who, who is the, um, the influence in your life musically?
00:53:17.160
I mean, you've worked with almost everybody and you're, you're weird.
00:53:25.800
Isn't that what rock and roll is supposed to be?
00:53:35.680
I mean, the real big ones at the top was, you know, my parents' record collection when
00:53:40.740
That was just all great classic rock and, you know, um, not real country, more outlaw country
00:53:46.880
music, whether it's like I said, the Waylands and things like that, the Eagles and stuff
00:53:51.060
Of course, Bob Seger's, you know, religion growing up and still is in my household.
00:53:56.380
But then when I got into hip hop, that changed everything for me.
00:53:59.680
You know, the early stuff, but it was really like, and when stuff went mainstream, like
00:54:06.520
And then I didn't figure it out until I was older.
00:54:08.260
I was like, this has literally been, you know, outside of, you want to go back to like
00:54:11.100
Celtic music, which created, you know, this and that and the other, but American music
00:54:14.600
is like basically jazz and blues spawned everything, everything until hip hop came along.
00:54:20.400
And once rap came along, it was like, that has its fingerprints on every form of music
00:54:27.960
So we've, I didn't get to witness the birth of the blues or really, you know, the fifties
00:54:31.720
and sixties and stuff, but I got to witness that.
00:54:33.820
And to me, it kind of aligns, it has a lot of parallels with blues and jazz, like what
00:54:41.100
I'm a more old school hip hop guy, but that's because I'm old.
00:54:47.900
That blues and jazz spawned everything up until hip hop.
00:54:51.520
And now hip hop has its fingerprints on everything.
00:54:54.420
I don't care if it's country music, you know, rock and roll music, whatever.
00:55:00.380
Just like any of those records up until, you know, up until the late seventies or wherever
00:55:05.520
when hip hop started, eighties started coming in.
00:55:07.540
They were all had, had the touches of jazz and blues on them.
00:55:10.360
Whether it was soul music, whether it was rock and roll, whether it was country or whatever.
00:55:18.020
I was, I mean, I would listen to those records.
00:55:22.620
Um, but then when hip hop really came, I started more to emulate it.
00:55:26.200
You know, even though I had that rock and roll, we had a piano and there was an old guitar
00:55:29.740
I would noodle here and there and then started, screwed up my mom's aerobics turntable, trying
00:55:35.800
So my parents had no clue what I was doing with any of this, you know, in Romeo, Michigan,
00:55:41.360
Did you, did you have the, uh, talk with your parents or anybody in your family of this
00:55:55.360
I was, well, it was, can't, can't you just do this as a hobby on the weekends?
00:56:02.600
I was doing radio when I was 13 years old and I got the speeches.
00:56:07.780
I got the speeches from my family and you know, this is a nice hobby, but you know, it's
00:56:14.320
I'm like, well, sometimes the best motivation is not exactly right.
00:56:22.560
Thank you for, uh, thanks for having the balls to stand up and just be who you are.
00:56:29.980
I get that compliment a lot and it, it, it, it's one of the best ones I get that and how
00:56:38.960
And this concert was great, but it's like, thanks for having the balls to stand up.
00:56:43.160
It means a lot now, especially where we've, where we've come to now, it's been a long
00:56:48.480
journey and, and I have a terrific son and grandchildren.
00:57:00.460
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