The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 253 ｜ Why Trump Must ANNIHILATE Mexico’s Cartels Like ISIS

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00:01:18.820 It's hard to believe, but 40 miles away from our border, over 500 people, men, women, children, brutally massacred by a cartel.

00:01:32.340 Their bodies were then taken to a nearby state-run prison where the prisoners, using makeshift ovens, including a 55-gallon drum or two, incinerated some of the bodies.

00:01:45.300 How is that possible?

00:01:47.360 How is that possible?

00:01:47.960 We don't know about it.

00:01:49.600 How is that possible?

00:01:50.480 It's happening in Mexico.

00:01:53.240 Well, they're not a Western European country.

00:01:56.300 They're not like Great Britain.

00:01:57.440 They're not like Norway.

00:01:58.660 They are a failed narco state, and America needs to wake up to that.

00:02:03.700 They also had the help of the Mexican governor of that state, who would later go on to become the leader of Mexico's largest political party.

00:02:12.500 You haven't heard this story, have you?

00:02:14.440 Of course not, because the cartel doesn't want you to hear this story.

00:02:17.960 However, there is one man who is not afraid of being on the wrong side of the cartel.

00:02:23.480 I want to welcome to the podcast, co-founder and director of Breitbart Border and Texas, and Breitbart Cartel Chronicles.

00:02:32.580 Thank you, Breitbart, for what you have been doing all of these years.

00:02:36.780 Welcome, Brandon Darby.

00:02:38.920 Brandon, this has been, I went to CNN.

00:02:56.740 I tried to tell the story on the border.

00:02:59.100 Nobody wanted to tell it.

00:03:00.420 Nobody.

00:03:00.700 We don't have satellite trucks down there.

00:03:03.520 We don't have any, you know, I'd get people on the phone.

00:03:06.720 They all of a sudden couldn't do that story.

00:03:09.300 Went to Fox.

00:03:10.400 Can't do that story.

00:03:12.420 You guys are the only ones that I know that have consistently, and in particular, you at Breitbart, you're consistently telling this story.

00:03:22.360 Before we get into it, and people will understand, are you safe?

00:03:28.500 Am I safe?

00:03:29.740 I feel safe now.

00:03:31.540 Well, I did not feel safe when we started the project.

00:03:37.360 I didn't know how cartels were going to react to what we were doing.

00:03:43.960 Right.

00:03:45.700 But, you know, I, and I don't say this to preach.

00:03:51.740 I really don't.

00:03:52.620 I don't live my life.

00:03:53.740 I've not, I've been the furthest from a perfect, sanctified person.

00:03:57.880 And you can, maybe not the furthest, but I've been pretty far from it.

00:04:02.240 And, but to me, it's really been an unto the least of these situation.

00:04:09.160 It's like, here are these people.

00:04:11.480 They don't have a voice for, all of these communities don't have a voice for a bunch of reasons.

00:04:17.040 Right.

00:04:18.520 There's complex reasons why left of center or legacy media didn't cover them.

00:04:23.880 Yeah.

00:04:24.000 There's complex reasons why the right didn't at that time.

00:04:26.700 Um, and I knew that I was supposed to do what I could to help bring a voice.

00:04:32.920 And so I just was like, God, you're going to have to stick up for me and watch out for

00:04:37.200 me here.

00:04:37.520 Watch out for my family.

00:04:39.200 Um, but I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to up it a little bit and I'm going to go at

00:04:43.420 these guys in Mexico.

00:04:45.680 And we did that and we didn't get killed.

00:04:49.340 Um, and so we started these cartel chronicles, which is a whole nother deal where we're very

00:04:54.800 directly challenging them and in Mexico.

00:04:58.160 Um, so am I safe?

00:04:59.800 I, I feel safe.

00:05:01.700 I do things to keep myself safe.

00:05:04.260 And let's not talk about any of that, but, um, so let me take you back.

00:05:09.020 I think this is when the chronicles, um, first started this, uh, when was it?

00:05:17.100 2011, this rounding up of 500 people and just killing them all because they had the same

00:05:26.400 name and they, they knew two of them might be talking to DEA officials.

00:05:31.420 Tell that story.

00:05:33.020 Well, um, okay.

00:05:35.440 So I, I, it's always so difficult to, to tell these stories cause you, you don't know how

00:05:40.680 many listeners or viewers, uh, understand the geography of the border.

00:05:45.660 You know, the, where assume not.

00:05:48.640 Okay.

00:05:49.140 So on the, the majority of the U S Mexico border is Texas, right?

00:05:54.320 And Texas has the United States borders divided into nine sectors on the Southwest border.

00:06:01.420 Um, immediately below Texas, below a town called Del Rio and, uh, Eagle pass.

00:06:08.120 Uh, it's a Del Rio sector.

00:06:10.020 There's a state.

00:06:10.400 That's where everyone would know.

00:06:11.700 That's where that fence came up and then the government took it down and all those people.

00:06:15.600 Okay.

00:06:16.060 So South of there is a state called Coila and Coila.

00:06:22.080 Uh, it's right on the Texas border, but it was under control of a cartel called Los

00:06:27.400 Setas.

00:06:28.460 Um, Los Setas has since rebranded themselves.

00:06:31.420 Kind of like Philip Morris did or something.

00:06:33.760 And they changed their name to CDN.

00:06:36.740 Um, but we still call them Los Setas CDN.

00:06:40.480 We don't, we don't buy the rebranding that the U S government and U S media buys.

00:06:45.640 Um, but they had complete control over that state.

00:06:48.660 And what they did was someone had agreed to cooperate with the U S government, um, you know,

00:06:56.720 with the DEA.

00:06:57.500 Uh, and then the U S government shared a little bit of information with the Mexican government.

00:07:02.460 Oh, good.

00:07:02.960 Trying to treat them as though, uh, that was a safe thing to do and trying to be professional.

00:07:09.380 And they shared the, a very common last name and said, well, the source's name, last name

00:07:15.780 is this.

00:07:16.600 So what, what Los Setas did with the government's approval, with the state government's approval

00:07:22.520 is they went into this region of Mexico called Allende and they rounded up everyone with that

00:07:29.480 last name and everyone who had a relative with that last name.

00:07:33.200 And they killed them 500 and something people killed them.

00:07:37.360 They burned their bodies.

00:07:39.640 And that was that.

00:07:41.040 Didn't they take, actually take them to like the prison and have the, well, some of them,

00:07:45.320 yeah, that we can't figure out what happened to all of them.

00:07:48.060 But what we did was we actually went to this prison and got access to a storage for a storage

00:07:55.560 room.

00:07:55.940 And we were able to find remnants and of people.

00:07:59.120 It was horrifying.

00:08:00.000 Um, but that's what they did to these people.

00:08:03.200 Uh, and, but that happens, that's happened all across Mexico, specifically along the

00:08:11.520 U S Mexico border.

00:08:12.640 You know, people will tell me, well, I went to Tijuana and it was safe.

00:08:16.740 It was fine.

00:08:17.400 I went to a show and I was like, well, because you're dealing with a different cartel there

00:08:22.020 than, than what we deal with in Texas and South of Texas.

00:08:25.120 When you're talking about South of Texas, if you were to go now, now people understand

00:08:30.800 where it is.

00:08:31.240 If you say Boca Chica beach, it's the very furthest point, uh, where Mexico and the United

00:08:37.200 States meet.

00:08:38.760 Um, that's where Elon Musk launches rockets from SpaceX, right?

00:08:42.400 If you were to go all the way over there, that is called the Rio Grande Valley sector.

00:08:47.460 That's a state called Tama Lipos in Mexico.

00:08:50.560 And it's under the control of the Gulf cartel was you go further over and you get to the

00:08:56.180 Laredo sector, which is next Rio Grande Valley, Laredo sector, the Rio sector, big bend sector,

00:09:03.080 El Paso sector.

00:09:04.020 And so forth, as you come, come, uh, West, you're dealing with Los Settos, right?

00:09:11.660 And you know, it goes on and down the line, but specifically the Gulf cartel and Los Settos,

00:09:17.800 um, they've had their leadership decimated.

00:09:21.120 So, and decimate is not even the right word.

00:09:24.220 They've had their leadership decimated probably eight times over, right?

00:09:28.100 And what happens when you do that is these groups start to factionalize.

00:09:33.740 So now the Gulf cartel isn't the Gulf cartel anymore.

00:09:37.620 It's, it's multiple cartels who all call themselves the Gulf cartel, but they're all fighting each

00:09:42.220 other.

00:09:42.460 And, and what happens is you end up with glorified gang bangers and they no longer care about

00:09:49.900 tomorrow.

00:09:51.760 They don't care about long-term profit sustainability.

00:09:54.840 They care about making money today, right?

00:09:59.080 That's why we had the migrant crisis that we had starting in 2013, 14 is because this faction

00:10:05.780 of the Gulf cartel decided they could make as much or more money from smuggling people to

00:10:12.240 our border than they could from drugs.

00:10:14.520 So that's what they started doing.

00:10:15.840 That's why most of that border crisis was contained to this very small geographic area along our

00:10:21.280 border is because that particular faction of the Gulf cartel decided that's what they

00:10:26.660 were going to do for money.

00:10:27.940 Get it?

00:10:28.260 You see how this starts to get complicated?

00:10:31.140 So there was a story a couple of weeks ago about crematoriums.

00:10:35.520 What, what, who, which cartel is that?

00:10:37.560 Where was that?

00:10:39.040 Okay.

00:10:39.440 Tell that story.

00:10:40.220 When you asked me to come on the show, my mind, I had already been in a place where I

00:10:48.340 was like, I need to bring attention to Jalisco.

00:10:50.760 I need to bring attention to this cartel called CJ and G, right?

00:10:54.940 Cartel Jalisco.

00:10:56.560 The head of that cartel is a guy named El Mencho.

00:11:00.440 Okay.

00:11:01.240 Now they used to be a Sinaloa faction.

00:11:03.840 They broke off from this Sinaloa cartel.

00:11:05.820 I mean, we could get into, people can watch narcos if they want to know that story.

00:11:09.300 Right.

00:11:10.220 But the bottom line is this particular cartel is so brutal and so powerful.

00:11:19.180 They have ties to the current secretary of defense of Mexico.

00:11:23.060 That's a fact.

00:11:24.500 Um, and they're protected.

00:11:25.580 So when, when the U S government, you know, like him or, or hate him or whatever, when,

00:11:33.200 when Trump first came in, um, his first term, what was that?

00:11:36.660 2016, 16, 17.

00:11:39.020 But, but, um, when he first came in, he had promised.

00:11:43.220 In fact, it was on a radio show with me at the time.

00:11:46.420 I was guest hosting a show and Stephen Miller, that was his name.

00:11:50.860 He came on and he promised that they were going to go to war on cartels, Mexican cartels,

00:11:57.440 but they didn't the first term.

00:11:59.780 Um, and I'm sure there was, there were a lot of complicating factors, right?

00:12:05.860 Like, like Trump 2.0 and Trump 1.0 are not the same at all.

00:12:09.760 And, um, I personally am a fan of 2.0 a lot more.

00:12:15.620 I like 2.0.

00:12:16.640 I thought, yeah.

00:12:17.560 Um, but what they did was they kind of went after MS 13, right?

00:12:22.040 And I guess they assumed that, well, people won't know the difference or we're keeping

00:12:26.020 as much of our promise as we can, but Trump 2.0 is really going at it.

00:12:31.420 But the problem is, is that they're really not going after cartel Jalisco, right?

00:12:38.340 Because they're protected.

00:12:39.760 So they're going after the Sinaloa cartel, which 10 years ago, no one could have done.

00:12:44.840 And they're going after the Gulf cartel and they're going after Los Etos.

00:12:48.440 They're going after a lot of folks, but are they really going after cartel Jalisco?

00:12:55.280 They're not going after cartel Jalisco.

00:12:57.500 Tell me, tell me what they do.

00:12:59.060 Tell me why these guys are so bad.

00:13:01.220 Well, they're just brutal.

00:13:02.780 So you, you traditionally have had folks like the Gulf cartel and Los Etos who had their

00:13:09.580 leadership taken out.

00:13:10.700 Remember, there were those younger guys who came in, so they didn't care as much about

00:13:14.540 tomorrow, right?

00:13:15.460 They only cared about today, which meant the typical things we relied on, like our entire

00:13:21.840 counterterrorism strategy on the Southwest border.

00:13:24.520 Again, analysts will say this is an oversimplification, but I think it's a fair, it's a fair oversimplification

00:13:32.280 is we've said, well, these cartels won't allow a terrorist to come through because they know

00:13:38.900 what that would do to them.

00:13:40.000 They know that that would shut down their money and their business, their corridors.

00:13:43.020 Well, that you could say that about an old school cartel with an old leadership who doesn't

00:13:49.880 want to kill police, doesn't want to kill U.S. citizens.

00:13:52.900 They just want to make money and they know how to avoid trouble, right?

00:13:56.360 But when it's a bunch of young guys all doing cocaine and methamphetamine and they know they're

00:14:03.220 going to die tomorrow anyways, they don't care.

00:14:06.880 Well, now we have a real problem.

00:14:09.700 But again, that's coming from these factionalized cartels that can't accumulate a lot of power

00:14:17.940 or political power in Mexico because they're constantly changing leadership.

00:14:22.200 The problem with cartel Jalisco is they are that large cartel with the majority of power,

00:14:29.140 the most powerful cartel right now in the world, I believe.

00:14:32.160 Some would say an Italian group is.

00:14:34.420 I don't think so.

00:14:35.960 Definitely in our world, right?

00:14:38.020 That is in our side of the planet.

00:14:39.880 Most powerful, ruthless drug lord in existence is El Mencho right now.

00:14:45.140 And they are behaving.

00:14:47.500 They have all that power and that money and that reach, but they are behaving like these

00:14:52.080 young guys from the Gulf Cartel or from Los Santos.

00:14:54.940 You understand?

00:14:56.820 And it's a problem.

00:14:58.940 It's a real problem.

00:15:00.600 And, you know, regardless of how much, I mean, obviously, if you have my history and you write

00:15:10.680 about these issues, you're constantly brushing shoulders with law enforcement.

00:15:14.700 There's constantly analysts who reach out to you or others who reach out to you for information

00:15:20.380 in government, right?

00:15:22.740 And you start to get a pretty clear picture of what their complaints and their gripes are.

00:15:28.560 In the State Department, the U.S. State Department, there's State Department employees, but the

00:15:34.540 majority of the people handling security and law enforcement in the U.S. Consulate in Monterey,

00:15:41.340 right, are in the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City.

00:15:44.320 They're former law enforcement who are retired, who are doing a contract.

00:15:48.560 Well, those guys have a pretty good idea what's going on, like where the money's going, who

00:15:54.420 they're being told to leave alone, who they're being told to go after and to prioritize.

00:15:59.360 But they talk.

00:16:00.140 And when they feel like something wrong is happening, they talk, right?

00:16:03.720 They might not go to Congress.

00:16:05.920 They might not.

00:16:06.560 But they'll talk to you and they'll see, you know, this stuff.

00:16:08.680 And you've been in journalism and they tell you what's going on.

00:16:11.780 And what's going on is we are not properly going after El Mencho.

00:16:15.960 Even now, with Trump.

00:16:17.680 Even now.

00:16:18.400 And I don't think, how do I say this?

00:16:20.820 I think pretty quickly the Trump administration will.

00:16:24.480 But the way that's going to happen is by me texting people I know in the White House and

00:16:29.880 telling them that, by me coming on your show and your platform being used to make sure there's

00:16:37.400 zero percent chance that decision makers in this White House don't watch your show.

00:16:41.840 There's zero percent chance.

00:16:42.800 I will tell you that I happen to know somebody on this team that is making the decisions.

00:16:48.480 And I have no inside information or anything else.

00:16:51.140 But I do know he's one of the more serious guys I've ever met.

00:16:56.960 He knows.

00:16:58.320 He's dealt with the worst of the worst of the Middle East.

00:17:01.300 And Trump is looking at these guys just like he did ISIS and everything else.

00:17:06.100 And they are at least that bad.

00:17:09.940 They might be worse because there is no code at all amongst them.

00:17:17.820 But if you go in, because I've been waiting for every morning for 10 weeks, all these people

00:17:28.440 wake up and they're like, what happened to him last night?

00:17:31.320 And he's dead.

00:17:31.980 You know, and just every day people are waking up dead.

00:17:38.120 And but I am I'm wondering now if that's even a good idea for us to spend in send in special forces.

00:17:45.340 If it's just breaking them up even more into these little teeny death squads.

00:17:52.420 Okay, that's a really good point.

00:17:56.420 And I'm glad you brought it up.

00:17:59.380 What we've done to the Gulf cartel and we've broken them into little itty bitty teeny tiny death squads, right?

00:18:06.640 What we have done, though, is broken their power in Mexico, their ability to control that central government to have influence over it is very small.

00:18:16.820 So let me stop and let's let's spend a minute on the government, because you can't do the things these organizations are doing without serious connections to the government.

00:18:30.800 And and I mean, it's it's obvious when you have a local politician, he's like, I'm going to run against the cartels.

00:18:37.400 I'm going to clean this up.

00:18:38.560 He's dead.

00:18:39.560 Everyone who's on his team is dead.

00:18:41.920 Everybody who even were supporting him, they're all dead.

00:18:44.420 And you clearly when you have the next candidate up, he's clearly at least tolerant of the cartels.

00:18:53.260 So how do you clean that up?

00:18:56.380 I mean, how deep does this go?

00:18:58.400 Is it all of it?

00:18:59.640 Oh, so Mexico has, you know, five years ago, I would have said they had 31 states in the federal district.

00:19:08.180 Right.

00:19:08.380 Kind of like their D.C.

00:19:09.500 Mexico City.

00:19:11.320 I think now it's considered a state.

00:19:13.060 So it's 32 states.

00:19:14.420 Right.

00:19:14.740 Right.

00:19:16.480 More than half of that territory is under the control of cartels.

00:19:20.820 And literal control, like literal control.

00:19:22.840 So in the United States, if someone is in trouble, we might send, you know, the FBI or the ATF to go get them.

00:19:30.540 Right.

00:19:32.140 In Mexico, they can't do that.

00:19:33.780 In Mexico, they have to send in their elite Marines.

00:19:36.620 They have to send in like hundreds of soldiers and armored vehicles to go and get someone if they want them.

00:19:44.800 And that's even then that it's very rare.

00:19:48.720 Rarely is it successful.

00:19:50.280 Right.

00:19:50.820 There's usually the cartels are using drone attacks.

00:19:53.540 You know, it starts to resemble a smaller version of Ukraine and Russia right now.

00:19:59.000 So it's under their control.

00:20:02.240 So so it's it's very tricky.

00:20:05.080 We I think later on in this discussion, we'll probably get more in detail about maybe we will about, you know, the problems that the U.S. has in doing things in Mexico.

00:20:17.540 But to make a long story short, years ago, as in a year ago, maybe even up to a year ago, the way that people in the intelligence community and in the law enforcement community in the United States described it to me, as they said, when when we have law enforcement or intelligence, you know, priorities,

00:20:45.380 the State Department would always say, hey, wait a minute.

00:20:49.000 You need to balance your law enforcement and intelligence priorities with the State Department's diplomatic concerns.

00:20:55.940 Oh, man.

00:20:56.580 And so you've got to think about what the U.S. government does.

00:21:00.860 That's it.

00:21:01.080 That's it.

00:21:01.440 That's it.

00:21:02.220 It's horrifying.

00:21:02.740 That's like Vietnam.

00:21:04.580 So this is what happens is people leave D.C.

00:21:07.580 They go to Mexico for a two year assignment or so.

00:21:11.220 Right.

00:21:11.400 They take a sheet of paper and they write out their priorities and they say, OK, here's what I'm going to accomplish while I'm here.

00:21:18.520 And after I accomplish these things and I leave, I can go to Honolulu or wherever I want to go.

00:21:23.320 Right.

00:21:23.760 Some, you know, Southeast Pacific Island or something because I took this dangerous assignment.

00:21:30.240 They have to work with local partners, with Mexicans to get these priorities done.

00:21:36.180 And they start to do it.

00:21:38.040 The U.S. government starts to go after a particular cartel boss.

00:21:41.760 And then all of the people that the State Department's working with and depending on say, well, you need to back off that guy.

00:21:49.280 It's going to cause problems for us.

00:21:51.060 Why don't you go after this guy instead?

00:21:52.860 This is Al Capone.

00:21:54.400 Absolutely.

00:21:54.840 So to to what you said a minute ago, what can the U.S. do if the U.S. goes after him?

00:22:03.860 Does it break him up and turn him into, you know, is it like a hydra?

00:22:07.600 Do you chop the head off and more heads come at you?

00:22:11.640 I think that.

00:22:13.800 The U.S. government doesn't really need to do that.

00:22:17.980 I think the U.S. government needs to look at the reality of Mexico, Mexico.

00:22:24.080 Everything is for sale.

00:22:25.740 If you're dirty and you throw money around, you have political power and you can get things done.

00:22:32.660 But if you're the U.S. government and you throw money around, you can get things done as well.

00:22:37.940 I think that the U.S. government should fund groups in Mexico to to take out or help with these bad guys like they just did.

00:22:47.520 They they got a Sinaloa guy named El Mayo.

00:22:51.360 And it turns out that El Mayo was kidnapped by another cartel and then flown here right to the U.S.

00:22:57.040 Well, obviously, someone in the U.S. government was in was working with these other bad guys to do this.

00:23:04.140 And I think that kind of thing is what's going to happen more.

00:23:09.760 I think that it's not even slow things down.

00:23:13.780 Yeah.

00:23:14.260 Yeah. Yeah.

00:23:14.860 Because you have to I mean, this is one of those tricky things, right, where there are a lot of folks on the left who cover cartels.

00:23:22.940 They don't cover them like we do, but they still cover stuff going on in Mexico.

00:23:29.060 Right.

00:23:29.280 And when they cover it, I say a lot.

00:23:32.940 There's a few of them, a few of my respect, you know, in Grillo.

00:23:35.880 And there's a few folks I really respect and I read their work, but they come from it from a very liberal.

00:23:42.960 It kind of reminds me of talking about home invasions in Los Angeles.

00:23:47.240 Right.

00:23:47.620 If you asked me how to deal with home invasions in Los Angeles, I'm going to have a very different perspective than Nancy Pelosi would have.

00:23:56.880 Right.

00:23:57.500 And or even their current governor.

00:23:59.640 Right.

00:23:59.960 And they look at it in this bizarre way.

00:24:02.900 It's like, well, this violence is going to happen if we do this.

00:24:05.360 It's going to cause these short term problems.

00:24:08.000 So maybe we just leave it alone and learn to cooperate with them and live with.

00:24:12.180 And I'm like, no, that's not how we do things.

00:24:14.540 Right.

00:24:14.780 Like what we do is we do what we have to do.

00:24:17.240 And then we worry about the next step afterwards if the only thing we can do is right before our face.

00:24:22.540 Right.

00:24:23.200 So you take the step, you break them up, you minimize their federal power, their national power, and you keep breaking them up.

00:24:30.440 And then if they turn into five groups, you break them up.

00:24:32.920 But every time they divide, they're smaller than they were before, you know, and you break their power.

00:24:40.240 That's just going to take long term.

00:24:42.440 I mean, and we can't do long term.

00:24:44.400 We have four to eight years.

00:24:46.180 Yeah, that's it.

00:24:46.880 And that's all we have.

00:24:48.260 Right.

00:24:48.740 Yeah, that's all we have.

00:24:50.640 I'd say reach across the aisle.

00:24:53.000 You know, the way that I talk about.

00:24:54.920 Nobody, I mean, even some of the Republicans, they just don't care.

00:24:59.100 And I think it's because I've seen some of the pictures that networks didn't allow me to put on the air.

00:25:06.680 I've seen the bowling alleys with the heads in the bowling alleys.

00:25:10.060 You know what I mean?

00:25:11.740 I've seen the heads on the pikes on the side of the street.

00:25:15.240 This cremation story that just came out a few weeks ago.

00:25:21.020 It's horrifying.

00:25:21.780 It's horrifying.

00:25:23.840 Horrifying.

00:25:24.240 I don't think people really understand, you know, because they're like, oh, yeah, spring break.

00:25:30.180 My kids are going to Mexico.

00:25:31.300 Don't go to Mexico.

00:25:32.580 I wouldn't do that.

00:25:33.700 Yeah, I wouldn't either.

00:25:35.120 I wouldn't.

00:25:35.560 It's not the Mexico it used to be.

00:25:37.720 Now, OK, Glenn, imagine and maybe I'm tugging on heartstrings on for all the viewers a little, but that's OK, because it's it's real.

00:25:50.520 Imagine being someone who's a good person.

00:25:54.580 Right.

00:25:54.880 You're a father.

00:25:56.000 You have daughters.

00:25:56.900 You have a son.

00:25:59.800 You're probably impoverished.

00:26:02.700 But imagine that you live under this.

00:26:05.860 Right.

00:26:06.060 You live with when the local cartel comes to get you.

00:26:11.320 It's not people in masks coming to get you.

00:26:15.240 It's the state police because the state police work for that cartel.

00:26:18.280 Right.

00:26:18.420 That is the part of the cartel.

00:26:20.500 That's their enforcement is their own mechanisms of government.

00:26:23.040 But imagine you live under that and no one in the world tells your story.

00:26:29.240 No one in the world knows that you live under that.

00:26:31.360 They kind of do, but not really.

00:26:32.720 Right.

00:26:33.580 And imagine that the only hope you have is that people in the United States.

00:26:41.320 Tell your story and make what's happening to you matter.

00:26:45.440 Make people just put it in everyone's head.

00:26:48.020 Tell me one of those stories.

00:26:49.280 Well, what I was getting at, though, is that on the left, they're afraid to report on what's

00:26:56.580 going on in these communities because they're afraid that in their minds, they think they're

00:27:01.840 reinforcing a racist right of center narrative.

00:27:05.120 Right.

00:27:05.880 And they're afraid to report on it because if they do report on it, they think it's going

00:27:13.580 to benefit Republican Party or it's going to make brown communities look bad.

00:27:17.440 And so in the name of of doing the best for these people, they just keep them silent and

00:27:23.960 they refuse to tell what's going on, you know, and on the right, a lot of people have refused

00:27:29.280 because, like, well, you're just bringing sympathy to those people.

00:27:31.880 You're and I'm like, well, yeah, that's if I that's what I'm doing.

00:27:35.540 If I were on the other side of the border, I completely understand I'm taking my family

00:27:39.660 and getting across the border.

00:27:40.860 That's what I would do.

00:27:41.700 Right.

00:27:42.000 And I completely understand the plight.

00:27:44.640 I don't understand our our unwillingness to move.

00:27:50.300 I mean, for decades, this is this is not a new problem.

00:27:54.080 This is getting worse and worse and worse and worse because we don't do anything about

00:27:58.900 it.

00:27:59.040 We don't demand anything be done about it.

00:28:01.040 Um, and and you sit there and you look at it and you're like, I think the average person

00:28:07.600 in Mexico, I'm living in one of those towns, completely run, completely run.

00:28:12.000 And everybody knows it.

00:28:13.040 And my mayor was killed.

00:28:14.860 The person that wanted to replace him was shot.

00:28:17.280 Uh, you know, his wife and kids, they were shot.

00:28:19.640 Somebody else was shot all against the cartels.

00:28:21.800 All of those guys were wiped out.

00:28:23.180 I shut my mouth.

00:28:24.640 I look for a way out for my family.

00:28:26.640 So that's the reality.

00:28:28.740 But if we actually would step in because their government is corrupt, if we actually looked

00:28:35.120 at them like we did ISIS, the people of Mexico would embrace us.

00:28:39.960 Would they not?

00:28:41.020 Um, some would, some wouldn't.

00:28:42.500 It, it depends on where and what they're dealing with.

00:28:46.040 Um, I think in the communities that are most affected by, by like cartel Alisco, I think that

00:28:53.380 we would be embraced.

00:28:54.380 Do the Mexicans not know the story of these people?

00:28:57.600 They do, but again, okay, Glenn.

00:29:00.880 So depending on how you count media workers, right?

00:29:05.540 Like, um, if you say media workers or journalists, right?

00:29:08.920 Like the, the left tends to be like, I'm a journalist, but my Wikipedia page, someone put

00:29:15.160 on there, I'm a blogger.

00:29:16.300 You know, it's like a, it's a mechanism of insulting me or diminishing my work.

00:29:20.260 So that happens in Mexico too, right?

00:29:22.720 Like the, if you use the, the terminology or the, the, the definitions I would use for

00:29:29.600 journalists, right?

00:29:30.980 There's been about 150 or so Mexican journalists killed in the last few years, you know,

00:29:36.820 few years, few years, five years.

00:29:38.940 Uh, I think it's been five, might've been six or something.

00:29:42.580 Um, that's, that's, that's gotta be one of the worst in the world.

00:29:46.060 Okay.

00:29:46.460 So every year between like Mexico and Syria, Mexico is always a close number two or Mexico

00:29:54.880 and wherever some years, Mexico's number one of the most journalists killed in the world.

00:30:01.220 So this is where, what we do and what you're doing right now is so important because every

00:30:11.200 news outlet has a link, right?

00:30:13.660 Has in Mexico has a link.

00:30:15.220 And I think about this, a link is the person everyone knows is kind of like a, the communist

00:30:20.960 party mind.

00:30:21.820 So they go, they run things by and the link says, well, you better cover it this way or

00:30:26.980 you better not cover that violence.

00:30:28.460 So you better not mention this.

00:30:29.880 So you better not write that story about the mayor taking money from narcos, get it.

00:30:34.740 And so the journalists fall in line because if they don't, they're dead, they're dead.

00:30:39.180 So what we do is we go and we build relationships with journalists and we say, listen, we know that

00:30:47.700 you work here.

00:30:49.060 We know that you can't write these things, but if you want to write these things under

00:30:53.620 a pseudonym and you want to give them to us, we'll publish them in English and Spanish

00:30:58.880 for the entire Western world to see.

00:31:01.300 And that's what journalists do.

00:31:02.960 That's why we're so successful at it.

00:31:04.940 What's the readership like?

00:31:06.800 Um, well,

00:31:07.920 Tell me in Mexico, is, is that, is that spread in Mexico?

00:31:11.740 It does, but okay.

00:31:12.880 So, and then you can, you know, the stuff just from analytics.

00:31:16.040 Yeah.

00:31:16.580 Um, people don't share our articles in Mexico on social media, but they do share it via

00:31:25.140 DM.

00:31:25.880 They do.

00:31:26.620 They text it to it.

00:31:27.720 They WhatsApp it to each other.

00:31:28.960 Right.

00:31:29.720 They send it that way.

00:31:31.700 Um, they don't share openly on social media generally.

00:31:36.740 Um,

00:31:37.220 That should tell you everything you need to know.

00:31:39.820 It absolutely does.

00:31:41.720 You know, this is, this is so enraging because you, you hear this and we've made such a big

00:31:46.660 deal out of the Venezuela gangs, which are horrible, horrendous.

00:31:51.060 Um, but we don't talk about, and everybody knows, everybody knows that these gangs in Mexico

00:31:58.560 are just as bad.

00:32:00.100 These, these people, we, in my opinion, and love to hear your thought.

00:32:04.220 Um,

00:32:07.220 if we're not literally, uh, or, you know, um, if we're not doing business with them, we're

00:32:13.820 at least turning a major blind eye over the last five years.

00:32:18.080 I personally, it, to me, it's almost as if we're like, Hey, we're going to help your business.

00:32:23.840 I mean, it is the way we have reacted over the last four years under Biden has got to

00:32:31.060 have empowered these people and, um, enrich them like nobody's business.

00:32:38.200 And it was us, the government that did it disagree.

00:32:43.760 I agree.

00:32:44.680 I agree.

00:32:45.380 Um, this is where we get into, you know, there are some things, some solution, parts of solutions

00:32:53.580 that the, the few on the left who care about this and focus on it.

00:32:58.240 Yeah.

00:32:58.440 There are some parts of their solutions.

00:33:00.480 I agree with like what, um, I agree that ultimately what does away with this type of

00:33:08.760 violence and crime is opportunity.

00:33:10.680 I agree with that.

00:33:11.940 I agree.

00:33:12.480 Um, but you can't, but you can't have opportunity.

00:33:16.200 They don't have clean water.

00:33:17.640 I wonder why.

00:33:18.460 The problem is, is what, where we disagree is how to get there, how to get to that place.

00:33:24.840 Right.

00:33:25.480 Because it is opportunity.

00:33:26.800 I understand some of our best sources through the years have been young guys who at one point

00:33:31.980 in time were cartel guys.

00:33:33.940 They, uh, they weren't leadership, but they were, you know, they had a radio and they would

00:33:38.040 help guide loads or do whatever.

00:33:40.180 And they explained it to me and they're like, well, what else would I do?

00:33:43.500 You know, like, imagine you live outside of, of outside of Juarez, like in Anapa.

00:33:48.460 Right.

00:33:49.020 Rancho Anapa, just on the other side of the U S Mexico border.

00:33:52.980 You can actually see it from this, uh, this little place called Sunland village in New

00:33:56.900 Mexico, just outside of El Paso.

00:33:59.440 And for years there was this chain link fence right there.

00:34:02.880 Uh, and that was the border and you could look across and you'd see these little shanties

00:34:09.140 and you'd see kids with no shoes and you'd, it was just, it was a bit horrifying.

00:34:12.840 And I would always stop and talk to these kids.

00:34:14.500 Right.

00:34:15.380 But I think, think about this.

00:34:16.680 So you live there, you have, you really don't have access to a lot of formal education,

00:34:23.380 right?

00:34:24.940 Um, your mother probably washes people's laundry by hand, right?

00:34:30.240 You have a couple of sisters.

00:34:32.640 There's men who are disrespecting your sisters and you, you're pretty sure they're going to

00:34:37.040 wrap them up into something bad.

00:34:38.660 And you can't do anything.

00:34:40.620 And then someone comes to you and goes, Hey, um, all you have to do is like, have this radio

00:34:46.100 for me.

00:34:46.740 I'll give you a gun.

00:34:47.940 I'll pay you, you know, $500 a week, 500 U S dollars a week.

00:34:52.080 And, um, no one will, you know, try to sexually assault your sister.

00:34:57.680 Your mother won't have to wash people's underwear anymore.

00:35:00.360 And your family will be treated with respect.

00:35:03.220 If you're a young man, what do you do?

00:35:05.840 And that's literally the only option you have.

00:35:08.380 What do you do?

00:35:09.220 Most likely you take that at, at a young age.

00:35:12.740 I might have it.

00:35:13.640 I might have too.

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00:36:34.120 So, yes, giving opportunity is, I think, the way out of this, but how do we get there?

00:36:46.640 Well, we're not going to get there without a lot of violence.

00:36:49.660 We're not going to get there without a lot of things that would make most people feel

00:36:53.540 uncomfortable.

00:36:55.280 We're just not.

00:36:56.880 And that's, you know, it's kind of like we talked about the Overton window, right?

00:37:01.460 Like, what we accept and what we have accepted, think about this.

00:37:08.480 We have accepted a 2,000-mile border that is largely immediately on the other side, is

00:37:16.120 under the control of transnational paramilitary criminal organizations.

00:37:21.920 And we've accepted it.

00:37:23.640 We've allowed them to make untold amounts, millions, from bringing people to our border.

00:37:29.420 They advertise in Central America, right?

00:37:31.760 And they say, hey, you can come here.

00:37:33.720 You don't have to have any collateral.

00:37:35.380 It's okay, because we know, you know, we know where your grandmother is.

00:37:38.980 We know where your family members are.

00:37:40.840 So that's your collateral.

00:37:42.360 So you come here.

00:37:43.380 We'll get you to the border.

00:37:45.220 We're going to dress you up in clothes that appeal to the American sensibility, right?

00:37:50.900 We're going to tell you exactly what to say.

00:37:53.000 And then on the day that we want to, we're going to bring you and 200 other people to

00:37:58.640 the border and tell you where to cross and tell you what to do.

00:38:01.780 And those people do it.

00:38:03.480 And they come here.

00:38:04.620 And they're the migrant workers, right?

00:38:06.260 They say what they were told to say.

00:38:08.880 They're wearing the clothes that they were given, you know?

00:38:12.080 And for the next however many years, they're sending money back every two weeks to that

00:38:17.260 cartel, you know, through Orlandi Valuda or through, you know, WhatsApp or through Venmo

00:38:23.000 or through, you know, PayPal.

00:38:24.840 They're sending money back, small amounts to pay it off.

00:38:28.300 And that is what is fueling like the Gulf cartel, the Reynosa faction of the Gulf cartel.

00:38:34.020 That's what's fueling them.

00:38:35.560 And we've allowed that.

00:38:37.100 We've allowed that because we feel bad and we feel bad for people.

00:38:40.840 And we understand why they're coming, right?

00:38:43.760 We can get why they're coming.

00:38:45.460 And you're like, whether or not we think it's okay that they've come that way and whether

00:38:49.740 or not we think they should not be allowed to, right?

00:38:53.100 That we should not, we should stop it is kind of besides the point.

00:38:57.500 The fact is, is that when you're seeing that, you can relate to why that human did that.

00:39:01.940 But, but that kindness that we're showing, not only really is it fair to a whole host of

00:39:09.500 other people, but it's really not fair to the, the very communities these people come

00:39:14.580 from.

00:39:15.580 You get, you get a hundred percent.

00:39:17.720 I mean, look, there are times that compassion can be so wildly misplaced that it just makes

00:39:26.540 things worse and worse and worse.

00:39:28.580 There's some things that it has to be in order, you know, it has to be, um, we're never going

00:39:35.560 to make any progress if we are just enabling the bad guys by saying, we're going to help

00:39:43.040 the others on the, yeah, I understand that, but we've got to cure that.

00:39:46.760 We've got to, we have cancer.

00:39:47.920 It got to cut that cancer out before you can help the body.

00:39:51.740 You know, it's like, Hey, let's do calisthenics while you're on chemo.

00:39:56.760 No, it's not going to work out.

00:39:58.780 Well, it's not going to work out.

00:40:00.080 It'll never get you healthy.

00:40:01.960 Um, uh, how deep does this go?

00:40:07.340 Does this go all the way to the president?

00:40:09.680 Okay.

00:40:10.160 So I've thought about this, um, several Mexican presidents that has gone all the way to them

00:40:16.880 and they've, they've, um, that's, that's not a, uh, at this point people can get on Google

00:40:23.540 or duck, duck, go or something else.

00:40:25.780 And they can read all about that.

00:40:28.980 This particular president, what I think this is my gut feeling, right?

00:40:33.740 My gut feeling is that she is not dirty in that way, but that she is a realist who says,

00:40:41.200 okay, this is a country where half of the territory is under the control of these transnational

00:40:48.660 paramilitary cartels.

00:40:51.580 And I have to somehow govern this country.

00:40:55.400 Right.

00:40:56.060 And so what I think she's done is like with her secretary of defense, I think she's brought

00:41:02.060 people onto her cabinet, some of whom she knows are dirty and connected because it helps

00:41:07.020 her govern what, what just happened with, um, you know, uh, what a month or two ago when

00:41:14.420 they handed over 20 some odd cartel bosses who were wanted, that was unprecedented that

00:41:20.720 this guy, uh, Rafael Carl Quintero, he killed this DE agent, which is kind of what kicked all

00:41:27.560 this off to start with, right?

00:41:28.780 As part of a, he brutally tortured one of our people, right?

00:41:33.900 And American and a fellow American and he killed him and he had, he had like doctors

00:41:40.420 and, and on standby and there to keep this guy alive just so he could torture him more.

00:41:46.220 Oh my gosh.

00:41:46.980 Yeah.

00:41:47.300 And that was in the eighties and Mexico and we, we just got him because of the threat of

00:41:56.920 tariffs.

00:41:57.140 Mexico knew, right?

00:41:58.460 Yeah.

00:41:58.640 Mexico protected him this entire time and we, they just handed him to us.

00:42:03.840 Why?

00:42:04.760 Um, I think they realized that the, and, and again, I, I, I'll just say it.

00:42:12.720 This administration under Trump on the world stage finally called them out and said, this

00:42:20.340 is basically, they said, this is a narco state.

00:42:22.960 Is there any other way to describe it?

00:42:25.580 No, but that's not something that the U S government has done.

00:42:29.620 So the threat of tariffs, the threat of military action of the U S taking unilateral action against

00:42:37.640 these guys and Mexico said, Oh man.

00:42:40.860 And this president very secretly without informing a lot of people got these guys out of there.

00:42:46.520 They got the heads of Losetas, the, the two brothers, um, the Z brothers who ran Losetas.

00:42:52.860 And even though there's different leaders, um, the reality is, is those two brothers still

00:42:57.860 ran it.

00:42:58.380 See in Mexico, this is how it works.

00:43:00.600 If a cartel boss gets arrested and put in prison in Mexico, that doesn't change anything.

00:43:07.140 What changes it is when they die or when they get into U S custody, once you're in U S

00:43:12.540 custody, it's like being dead.

00:43:14.580 Right.

00:43:15.320 So if, if, if a cartel boss wanted to kill me and had a hit on me and he gets arrested

00:43:21.360 in Mexico, that doesn't do much, right?

00:43:24.220 He's still the boss, but if he gets killed or he gets put into U S custody, then no one

00:43:30.880 will do the hit.

00:43:31.540 No one's going to do any favors for him anymore because he's, he's considered gone.

00:43:35.400 Right.

00:43:36.360 So when Mexico handed those people over, that shocked me that they handed us this guy,

00:43:43.860 Carl Quintero, I could not believe they did it.

00:43:46.040 That was a major gesture, but I promise you that that president would have had to have

00:43:52.160 done that without informing members of her cabinet that she was doing that.

00:43:56.240 You know, it would have had to been that kind of hush and secret.

00:43:58.840 What she said was, she would have, you're saying she would have, she wouldn't, she would

00:44:03.620 not have spoken to her cabinet.

00:44:04.820 No, she couldn't have, because some of them are in fact, yeah, cartel.

00:44:08.980 Yeah.

00:44:09.240 And so she couldn't have, and what, how she defended it was, she said, I had, uh, intelligence

00:44:14.680 that, uh, corrupt governors were going to get paid and release them.

00:44:18.960 That's why I did it.

00:44:19.920 Like I, she had to have an excuse for why she did it that way.

00:44:22.780 But the fact that she gave us Carl Quintero is a really big deal.

00:44:26.680 The fact that she gave us the, the, the de facto heads of the, of Losetta CDN, that's

00:44:32.960 a huge deal.

00:44:34.660 Um, it's a really big deal, but it still diverts from the fact that El Mencho is protected.

00:44:43.000 You know, who's the major driver of fentanyl in the United States?

00:44:46.780 El Mencho, you know, um, he's put him, put him in a category of other drug bosses or Al Capone

00:44:53.680 or something that people in America can relate to.

00:44:56.580 Um, it'd be hard.

00:44:59.140 I, I don't think Al Capone ever had that much power, uh, that El Mencho has, or, or, um,

00:45:04.980 I don't think so.

00:45:06.060 Al Qaeda, um, bin Laden.

00:45:09.780 Probably more power than that.

00:45:12.140 Definitely.

00:45:12.540 It would be, um, it's kind of difficult to do that.

00:45:16.940 Glenn, uh, but just imagine, um, a really bad guy who doesn't mind pumping fentanyl into

00:45:26.200 the United States, doesn't mind killing journalists, right?

00:45:29.080 Does it all the time.

00:45:30.540 Doesn't mind killing innocent people and burying them in mass graves if they get in his way.

00:45:36.280 Um, who now has billions upon billions of dollars per year to play with, you know, you understand?

00:45:42.340 Um, that's, you know, who has the current secretary of defense as a close friend, you know, our sources

00:45:49.780 say he's, he's a compadre, right?

00:45:51.800 Which means this isn't someone who he talks to on occasion or has a business meeting with.

00:45:58.520 This is someone they're talking once or twice a day about their days and what they're doing.

00:46:02.180 They're friends, they're close friends.

00:46:04.320 Um, so.

00:46:07.240 And do people in Mexico have a problem with that?

00:46:10.260 They just keep it to themselves?

00:46:11.320 I think most people do, you know, like you think about most of the, the people from Mexico

00:46:17.960 you've met, if you've ever, I don't know what work you've done before radio and TV, but I

00:46:23.400 would imagine you've, you've probably like most people done some blue collar work and probably

00:46:28.220 I got into radio when I was 13.

00:46:29.840 Okay.

00:46:30.400 So I was, I mean, look at these hands, they're babies.

00:46:33.140 They're like babies.

00:46:33.860 There's, there's, um, you know, people, I think most places are decent people.

00:46:42.660 Most people, most human beings are decent.

00:46:44.780 Yeah.

00:46:45.380 Scripturally, are they decent?

00:46:46.540 No, we're all awful.

00:46:47.740 Yeah.

00:46:48.160 Fallen.

00:46:48.520 But, but on a human level, most people, they want to work.

00:46:52.800 They want to provide.

00:46:54.360 They want to be left alone, left alone and raise their children.

00:46:58.120 Right.

00:46:58.880 They, um, most people, you know, they live their life and they're having fun and doing

00:47:04.540 what they can.

00:47:05.180 And then at the age that their parents start to pass away, they get real serious about

00:47:09.760 life and they're just, it's a human experience, right?

00:47:12.560 All of us have these, these poor things, right?

00:47:15.120 All of us live, all of us die.

00:47:16.360 All of us lose parents or we die young.

00:47:18.280 Those are our choices, right?

00:47:20.220 All of humanity goes through that.

00:47:22.740 And I think everyone in Mexico does too.

00:47:24.600 I think that the vast majority of people are very decent, but when the people in power, when

00:47:31.680 there's such a few people with wealth, right?

00:47:35.800 Like we don't have that here.

00:47:36.860 Like people can say we do.

00:47:38.080 And they're talking about Elon Musk or yeah, there's a couple of people with so much money

00:47:42.960 that it's, I can't even comprehend it.

00:47:45.420 But for the most part, we have a thriving middle class, right?

00:47:48.920 We have, you know, especially compared to places like Mexico in real terms.

00:47:53.820 Yeah.

00:47:54.060 Right.

00:47:54.940 And, and I think, you know, when so few people have power and so few people have

00:48:01.680 have firearms, right?

00:48:03.440 You remember in Mexico, you can't have, they're not like us.

00:48:06.780 They don't, everyone doesn't get to have a firearm.

00:48:08.960 Like we could say if some guys came up the street to take our women or take everyone with

00:48:14.260 a certain last name and burn them and kill them, that we would, we wouldn't tolerate it.

00:48:18.800 But imagine that you don't have firearms and then imagine that you, you don't have 911

00:48:24.960 to call because if you call the police, like you're calling the guys coming up the

00:48:28.880 street doing it, imagine that scenario, right?

00:48:32.220 So when you say do most, I think most people that have a problem with this, but what are

00:48:36.100 they going to do?

00:48:37.220 You know, what are they going to do?

00:48:38.620 They're in a, a very difficult situation.

00:48:41.900 And that's why, you know, there's things all over the world where there's injustice.

00:48:47.640 There's things all over the world, even in our own country, but, but I'm talking about

00:48:51.880 foreign and, you know, overseas.

00:48:53.760 There's all types of horrible things happening, but for some reason, our neighbor, which affects

00:49:02.240 us the most, right?

00:49:03.260 With a 2000 mile land border, right?

00:49:06.420 Roughly 2000 miles.

00:49:09.020 Like for some reason, like we, we don't mind intervening everywhere else in the world, but

00:49:15.940 we don't, but not there, you know?

00:49:18.340 Like why, um, I, I think I attribute a lot of it to, and make people mad at me, but get

00:49:26.520 mad.

00:49:26.940 I mean, it's just what I think.

00:49:28.340 I think a lot of it is because of the, the way that we, we handle it, right?

00:49:34.960 A lot of it is, is approaching it like California approaches crime, you know, approaching it a very

00:49:42.360 left of center, uh, liberal leaning, um, ideal approach that doesn't acknowledge or accept

00:49:51.840 the reality, right?

00:49:53.020 So the U S government's big push in Mexico for last, um, I don't know, probably let's

00:50:00.580 see, do the math, maybe 12 to 15 years.

00:50:03.640 The big push has been to reform their justice system, right?

00:50:06.920 So what they're trying to do is make Mexico have a justice system like ours, where there's

00:50:14.000 discovery and you know, your accusers and which sounds great.

00:50:17.520 But if you implement that, when the cartels still control everything and you have to name

00:50:26.380 the witnesses against a bad guy, what happens, you know, it's, but I'm saying that that is,

00:50:32.260 that is what we have, that's what our state department has focused on with all of this

00:50:38.160 other stuff happening.

00:50:39.760 That's what they've focused on.

00:50:41.900 Like, it's, it's almost like if someone you love is, or say that God forbid you're, you

00:50:48.160 or myself that we have a major tumor, right?

00:50:51.800 Like, like in our lung and they come in and start going, Hey, like, let's, uh, let's do

00:50:59.880 a manicure and a pedicure and let's, um, right.

00:51:02.580 Let's, uh, let's make sure that let's work on the mobility in your ankles.

00:51:06.120 And you're like, well, that's great that you're working on the mobility in my ankles.

00:51:09.000 But right now I have a, I have a tumor in my lung.

00:51:12.380 Yeah, there's, that's the approach that we've taken.

00:51:15.680 There's this refusal to acknowledge reality, right?

00:51:19.720 So Trump doesn't seem shy.

00:51:22.100 And again, I know one of the people that he appointed, he is not shy either.

00:51:28.180 So why haven't we really made a move?

00:51:32.800 Why hadn't there been any shock and awe or should there, and what should we be doing?

00:51:36.880 Well, okay.

00:51:37.540 So this is where things, and you know, this, I know that, you know, this, I I'm going to

00:51:43.880 make an assumption that, you know, you, you to brush, you have relationships with people

00:51:50.180 in these positions.

00:51:51.360 So you have a little bit of how things work or like a lot, like, and I don't want to

00:51:56.500 be ugly, but like the way CPAC works, right?

00:51:59.020 If CPAC is having a, um, a panel on the border, okay.

00:52:06.220 Who gets called to that panel?

00:52:08.440 Like, do I get called to that panel?

00:52:10.780 Probably not.

00:52:11.700 Right.

00:52:11.940 Like who gets called to that panel is which groups have the largest booths, right?

00:52:17.880 Well, you would be called to the panel.

00:52:19.620 I mean, you know, you get what I'm getting at.

00:52:22.260 I do.

00:52:22.760 And whoever has the largest groups, they decide who's going to be the speakers.

00:52:26.520 That's got to stop.

00:52:27.040 And then four or five of the people on the panel call me and they're like, Hey, you

00:52:31.060 tell me about this issue.

00:52:31.920 What do I say?

00:52:32.540 And I'm like, well, brother, like, like you're the one who allowed yourself to be elevated

00:52:38.000 to a position of leadership, you, you know, use Google.

00:52:42.860 I don't know.

00:52:43.280 Like I'll give you some talking points, but what am I, you know, like all of you are asking

00:52:46.420 me for the same thing.

00:52:47.200 Like I can't, and I think that's what happens.

00:52:49.720 And it happens in media.

00:52:51.780 I think it happens in bureaucracy in general, but it for sure happens in government, right?

00:52:56.920 Where the people who, I guess the people who oftentimes make the decisions or the people

00:53:04.700 who are, are the advisors, maybe are not the ones who should be right now.

00:53:09.600 This administration, I think is different.

00:53:11.640 Like if I look at the FBI, I love what he's done with the leadership and Dan Bongino.

00:53:20.160 I'm going to be honest with you.

00:53:20.840 I'm a fan.

00:53:21.560 I'm a huge fan.

00:53:23.280 And, um, you know, I, I, I look at with terrorism and I look at, um, the, the, just the folks

00:53:30.340 he's appointed across the board.

00:53:31.560 These are people I know, or I have either watched for years, some of them I known for

00:53:36.160 years and they're good people and they're serious people who, who they might not know

00:53:41.420 everything about cartels, but they, they know where to reach.

00:53:45.280 They know where to look.

00:53:46.300 They know whose work to look at and who to ask questions upon.

00:53:50.320 But you got to remember, we're very soon into this, right?

00:53:52.940 Like we, these guys are still sorting this out.

00:53:55.480 We're not, we're not far enough into this.

00:53:58.260 I think the first administration, Trump 1.0, I think that he tried to bring as many of,

00:54:06.760 and I hate to use that term, but I, I'm going to like swamp creatures in to make peace kind

00:54:11.620 of like, I don't think he understood.

00:54:14.040 He didn't get how this works.

00:54:15.580 He had no idea how that works.

00:54:17.460 I mean, he's, he's said that many times he does now.

00:54:21.920 I think he has a pretty clear idea of how they, they tried to, how, how deep in our

00:54:27.340 government is the infection?

00:54:31.280 Well, this is where it gets tricky too, is because now we get into border politicians,

00:54:35.800 right?

00:54:36.340 We get into like, why does the state of Texas have a specific task force along the U S

00:54:41.620 Mexico border to deal with public corruption, right?

00:54:44.400 Why?

00:54:45.400 Because there's public corruption.

00:54:46.760 So if you have political leaders along the border and those political leaders along the

00:54:53.180 border have relationships in Mexico and have, you know, with Mexico's major political parties

00:54:58.220 being diplomatic, right?

00:55:00.120 Even if they don't realize it, if those political parties, like we talk about Allende, we talked

00:55:06.060 about Coila and the mass graves and the burning of 500 summit people in Allende, right?

00:55:11.560 So the governor who allowed that to happen, didn't go to the UN about it, right?

00:55:17.600 He allowed it.

00:55:18.880 That governor left there and then became the head of a major political party in Mexico,

00:55:24.660 right?

00:55:25.300 PRI.

00:55:26.420 And so what do us politicians do is they try to engage in diplomacy and, and, and get along

00:55:34.880 with Mexico's major political parties, right?

00:55:38.260 So that's a mechanism by which those criminal organizations, those paramilitary, now there's

00:55:46.340 some of them, many of them are considered foreign terrorist organizations.

00:55:50.840 That's the mechanism by which they influence U S policies, right?

00:55:56.380 And U S politics.

00:55:58.060 So I think most of the U S politicians who are doing the bidding of these cartels, I don't

00:56:04.320 think they think of it that way.

00:56:05.600 They don't, they're not like getting a, an envelope full of cash under the table every,

00:56:10.200 you know, probably some along the border are, uh, some of them have, you know, recently been

00:56:15.420 indicted for envelopes full of cash, even though they, they defend themselves and say, well,

00:56:21.220 I'm not corrupt.

00:56:22.000 I'm just like, well, we'll see.

00:56:23.420 You know, I think, I think you might be like, cause we hear that stuff.

00:56:27.620 So, I mean, obviously, you know, this, how this works, you can't, you can't, it's why

00:56:33.580 that people like you and I can sometimes have a disadvantage over everyone on social media,

00:56:39.660 right?

00:56:39.880 Because they can, they can hear a rumor and they can report it.

00:56:43.620 They can report the rumor on their Twitter account, right?

00:56:46.580 Or X account, whatever it's called.

00:56:47.880 I still call it Twitter.

00:56:48.700 I'm going to, I say Twitter X or whatever, but they can report it on their Twitter account.

00:56:53.460 I can't, right?

00:56:54.380 I have to, I have to fact check it.

00:56:56.940 I have to develop other sources and I have to make sure it's true.

00:57:00.320 Cause if I, if I say that and it's not true, I'm getting sued, you know?

00:57:04.780 And, and then my insurance goes up and then it, and then it, the marketability of this,

00:57:10.080 which is already a difficult thing to market because, and you probably know this as well,

00:57:15.920 advertisers don't like their ad on a story that has pictures of dead bodies.

00:57:21.680 They don't like it.

00:57:22.920 So, well, it's hard to think of, you know, but so what do you do?

00:57:26.340 Like, so what you do is you, you do what Breitbart does.

00:57:29.100 We open a news foundation.

00:57:30.440 We go to a nonprofit model, like for this particular vein of stories, because we're publishing

00:57:35.640 these horrendous photos that everyone gets mad at us for publishing and we're not making

00:57:40.900 money off the photos.

00:57:42.080 You know, it's just, we're trying to show the world.

00:57:44.580 It, okay.

00:57:45.880 In Syria, when the U S government, and I think the intelligence community was really pounding

00:57:52.300 the drum through our mainstream media outlets that we needed to be involved in Syria, right?

00:57:56.560 We needed to arm these Al Qaeda groups in Syria to be our friends.

00:57:59.820 Um, there was this image of this, I believe it was a little boy, a little child who was

00:58:05.380 on a shore, right?

00:58:06.820 Like, remember that?

00:58:07.480 Do you remember the dead body?

00:58:08.820 And it was all over Twitter and it was all over CNN and it was all over the Washington

00:58:13.540 Post.

00:58:14.000 And it was all over all of the outlets who intelligence communities like to leak to.

00:58:17.860 Um, and so I had a picture of a little migrant child who, again, it was the back of the migrant

00:58:25.520 child dead in this river.

00:58:27.580 God, it's horrible.

00:58:28.980 And I published it.

00:58:30.260 I said, well, why is that?

00:58:32.220 Why does that bother you so much?

00:58:34.180 Why are you willing to go to war?

00:58:36.780 Right?

00:58:38.220 Because you see the image of this dead child in Syria, but not when you see the image of

00:58:44.360 this dead Mexican child or Honduran child on our border, right?

00:58:48.380 And I got kicked off Twitter for it.

00:58:50.160 I got banned for a while because I published this image and, oh, this is, yeah.

00:58:55.200 Okay.

00:58:55.460 Yeah.

00:58:55.720 This is pre, pre Musk.

00:58:58.540 And, um, they were like, you have to delete it or we're not going to let you get back on

00:59:01.620 Twitter, you know?

00:59:02.600 And I said, but this isn't fair.

00:59:04.180 And like, well, that's the rules.

00:59:05.060 I'm like, but, but you're allowing this issue.

00:59:07.840 You're, you allow, you have a different set of rules for that war than you have for the

00:59:13.220 war on our border, the, the Mexico drug war.

00:59:16.340 You have a different set of rules and like, well, you can debate that, but there's, you're

00:59:20.840 not getting back on Twitter if you don't delete that.

00:59:23.520 So I ultimately, you delete it.

00:59:25.280 You say what happened, you know?

00:59:27.680 And, um, but you understand the, yeah.

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01:00:53.620 So you've put together a whole team of journalists.

01:00:57.860 How many journalists are working with you now?

01:00:59.660 Oh, I think we have maybe 17 who work on the Cartel Chronicles, like routinely.

01:01:07.860 The ones who have the, you know, the ones who are signed on with us and who routinely contribute.

01:01:18.200 What's your life like?

01:01:19.180 What are they risking?

01:01:20.800 That's what people say.

01:01:21.860 People say, well, are you safe?

01:01:23.000 Or sometimes people go, you have so much courage.

01:01:25.280 I'm like, no, I don't.

01:01:26.160 I really don't.

01:01:26.880 Like, I have guns, you know?

01:01:29.660 I have guns and skills, and I live in West Texas, right?

01:01:35.780 I live in rural West Texas where I feel pretty safe.

01:01:40.740 But these people, like we talked about earlier, listen to this.

01:01:44.020 They don't have firearms, right?

01:01:45.600 They can't call 911 because the local police are, in fact, working with the cartels, right?

01:01:52.300 The cartel who controls their territory.

01:01:54.680 Yet, they write for us every day.

01:01:57.340 They send us reports.

01:01:58.780 We publish under a pseudonym, right?

01:02:02.260 And imagine that.

01:02:05.160 They go to bed at night.

01:02:06.180 They have no mechanism to defend themselves.

01:02:10.040 That's courage, right?

01:02:11.920 That's the courage in this equation.

01:02:14.120 It's not us.

01:02:14.780 It's them.

01:02:15.920 And that's what their lives are like.

01:02:18.260 And some of them are actually work for mainstream news organizations whose names you would know.

01:02:25.880 But they're not allowed to write what they want to write because they get killed or their editors would get killed, right?

01:02:32.340 So they instead publish under pseudonyms.

01:02:36.520 How can I help you get the word out on this?

01:02:38.820 This right here.

01:02:39.840 This is great.

01:02:40.960 This is great.

01:02:42.400 I'd appreciate it.

01:02:44.320 Look at our work.

01:02:45.420 You know, what I do and my team does, obviously.

01:02:49.360 You just go to Breitbart.com.

01:02:51.080 Breitbart.com.

01:02:52.060 Slash border.

01:02:52.840 Border.

01:02:53.660 My Twitter is a great way.

01:02:56.460 Like, I send everything out.

01:02:58.060 Brandon Darby, by the way.

01:02:59.380 Yes, sir.

01:02:59.840 And just to care.

01:03:02.100 You know, pray about it.

01:03:03.880 Pray about it.

01:03:04.680 Make sure that, you know, you're informed.

01:03:06.620 And when you talk to whomever you know in the administration or when you talk to, if someone listening goes to a town hall event with a local political leader, ask them to ask them about it.

01:03:17.360 You know, don't do gotcha because they might not know, but ask, tell them this matters to you.

01:03:22.340 Do you think we solve this?

01:03:23.940 I think we can.

01:03:25.960 Can we solve it?

01:03:27.200 I think we can.

01:03:29.720 I think we can do a lot.

01:03:33.180 Like, you know, okay.

01:03:34.580 So, in Mexico, there tends to be this interesting double standard, right?

01:03:39.220 With logic.

01:03:40.040 Double logic.

01:03:41.320 When it comes to their drug war, they blame the United States supply for their demand for firearms, right?

01:03:48.800 You know?

01:03:49.060 And when it comes to drugs, they don't blame these ruthless drug dealers for the drug war.

01:03:55.800 They blame the most, the weakest, most, you know, mentally health challenged people in our country, right?

01:04:06.100 They blame them for their need, for the demand, right?

01:04:09.680 So, on one hand, they blame the demand.

01:04:12.020 And on the other hand, they turn around and when it benefits them, they blame the supply, right?

01:04:16.100 You know?

01:04:16.760 So, I kind of take a middle ground on that and I say, well, sometimes the supply promotes demand, right?

01:04:27.180 And yes, the demand has to be there for the supply to function as well, right?

01:04:32.040 So, it's both.

01:04:33.560 Do I think we can get to a place where we have fewer people dying of fentanyl?

01:04:39.520 A lot fewer people dying of fentanyl in this country?

01:04:43.060 Yeah, I do.

01:04:44.140 Do I think we can get to a place where any time someone raises their head and starts trying to be a big shot in Mexico

01:04:55.680 in supplying that fentanyl or drugs to our country that they die and they know not to do it?

01:05:02.380 I think we can.

01:05:03.860 But I think it's going to take the Trump administration really ramping it up.

01:05:09.600 And they are ramping it up, but ramping it up more quickly than they are, they're going to have to.

01:05:16.240 Because what do we have?

01:05:17.220 We have, how long do we have until midterms, like right now?

01:05:20.240 A year.

01:05:21.120 A year.

01:05:21.800 Just over.

01:05:22.340 And so, they're going to need to really accomplish the bulk of things in this next year.

01:05:28.060 Because we don't know what Americans, you know, are going to choose at that point and how difficult things might become.

01:05:35.400 Should we say to Mexico, our State Department is going to say what we did in Cuba?

01:05:41.420 Sorry, no travel to Cuba, no travel to Mexico.

01:05:44.660 Well, okay, so this is where things get really tricky, is in a way we can do that with Mexico.

01:05:54.060 We can play hardball, but you have to remember that China is courting Mexico.

01:06:00.540 So, when Mexico's, you know, nationwide telecommunications, right?

01:06:06.700 It wasn't a U.S. company who got the contract.

01:06:09.160 It was Huawei.

01:06:10.020 It was China.

01:06:10.920 China would love to have a proxy on our border, right?

01:06:15.180 So, we have to balance that.

01:06:17.400 So, what I advocate is just to consistently use the intelligence community to get these people.

01:06:25.380 Get them.

01:06:26.140 Take them out.

01:06:27.200 Doesn't even have to really risk U.S. life because we can get, there are plenty of people in Mexico, even if the Secretary of Defense is unwilling to get Mencho, there are plenty of people in Mexico who are willing to, you understand that?

01:06:40.360 And I suggest that that's what we do.

01:06:43.360 I suggest we treat them like we're dealing with Al-Qaeda.

01:06:46.780 Al-Qaeda, not the entire country, right?

01:06:49.940 Al-Qaeda, not the entire country.

01:06:50.940 But when it comes to these people, we have the intelligence.

01:06:54.240 A hundred percent.

01:06:55.860 I know for a fact that we do.

01:07:00.260 You know, one of the weirdest things about being in my position is that about half of the information I come across, I make public.

01:07:10.600 But half of it is, there's really no public, I'm going to ruin someone's investigation, right?

01:07:15.220 Like if someone says, oh, this cartel boss is going to be here, is supposed to be here on this date according to one of his bodyguards, right?

01:07:23.840 Well, what am I going to do with that?

01:07:25.340 What I'm going to do with that is I'm going to share it with people.

01:07:27.260 I'm going to share it with law enforcement.

01:07:28.500 I'm going to say, hey, you don't become me in this position and not have some, you know, friendly relations with people in different agencies, Border Patrol, like CBP, like, you know, all of the agencies are someone I know or can talk to.

01:07:45.960 And I'm very open about that.

01:07:48.900 Like if about half the information, maybe a little less than half, there's no public value in sharing that the head of this particular cartel is going to be here in a week.

01:08:00.720 But there is value in sharing that with law enforcement.

01:08:04.000 And that's what I'll do.

01:08:04.960 Like, I have no qualms about that.

01:08:06.280 Have they ever come to you, the United States ever come to you and said, hey, can we get briefed?

01:08:11.440 Can you talk to us confidentially?

01:08:12.940 All the time.

01:08:13.600 All the time.

01:08:14.080 All the time.

01:08:14.620 Under the last administration, too?

01:08:16.380 Mm-hmm.

01:08:17.440 Really?

01:08:18.000 Yeah.

01:08:18.520 You have a member.

01:08:19.360 So my history in all this started, and nowadays it's a bad thing to bring up.

01:08:25.040 But at the time, I was very proud of what I had done many, many years ago, like in 2007 and 8 and 9, I had worked undercover as an operational source with the FBI in far left circles, right?

01:08:39.040 I had come from that community of people, and I had worked undercover with them in that capacity.

01:08:47.380 I worked on issues with Palestinian issues, right?

01:08:51.580 Like people who were trying to hurt Israelis, people who were trying to hurt Americans.

01:08:55.640 And I was very proud of it.

01:08:57.240 And what happened was when I, these people tried to firebomb the 2007, 2008 RNC, Republican National Convention.

01:09:07.500 And I got to play a small role in stopping that.

01:09:12.260 But I was testifying.

01:09:14.040 And when my name came out, the New York Times, you know, NPR, This American Life.

01:09:19.560 I mean, these, like I had, I was so attacked for having helped the government against the peace community.

01:09:26.040 Not, the story wasn't that the peace, these far left groups like spawned bomb plots.

01:09:30.780 The story was that somebody betrayed their trust or something.

01:09:34.760 And that's how I was found by Andrew Breitbart.

01:09:38.760 That's how he found me is he got a hold of me through some circuitous way and said, hey, thanks for what you did.

01:09:45.180 Can you come and work with me and tell your story?

01:09:48.620 And I was like, sure.

01:09:50.040 And I did.

01:09:50.700 That's how I got into this.

01:09:51.960 So, you don't, you know, you have relationships of people you can talk to.

01:09:56.620 And I know nowadays that's considered bad.

01:09:58.400 They're like, wait, what?

01:09:59.580 And I was like, I was very proud of that.

01:10:01.080 You know, my mother was very, God rest her soul, she was proud of what I was doing.

01:10:05.880 It was just that, like, all the folks in media seemed to hate me.

01:10:10.200 And then when I, when I.

01:10:11.560 You're telling somebody that makes everybody else uncomfortable.

01:10:13.640 I know this.

01:10:14.320 And I know that you know what this feels like.

01:10:16.460 But at the time, in that, you know, 2007, 2008, 2009, there, you know, social media was just growing.

01:10:26.620 And, and if the media were attacking you and they weren't reporting your comments back, you, you had no voice.

01:10:35.580 And then, you know, Andrew's doing his thing, you're doing your thing.

01:10:39.060 Like, everybody's doing their thing and starting to build this movement, even though some of us are so different.

01:10:44.960 And there's all types of, you know, human calamities that happen in that process.

01:10:49.680 But that's what we've done is we've basically, all together, we've built this, and you take a leadership role in that, building this entire movement where the other side of America has a voice too.

01:11:04.080 You know, we're, we're CNN and the New York Times and whoever can attack this law enforcement officer for using force.

01:11:12.160 But, so is that what you're doing really on this, is taking these journalists and making sure they have a voice?

01:11:20.100 That's all it is.

01:11:20.980 I got, Glenn, I used to focus on the far left, right?

01:11:24.660 And that's what I would focus on.

01:11:26.400 And media is biased toward them, right?

01:11:28.100 Like kind of the Chardonnay sipping revolutionaries who would support their more radical counterparts and all that.

01:11:33.640 And at some point, I said to myself, I said, you know, this is the right thing to do.

01:11:38.420 What I'm doing is good.

01:11:39.860 But it's also, it also satiates that part of me that wants revenge because these people wronged me so badly.

01:11:46.900 And I don't want to live in that.

01:11:48.280 You know, like I don't want to feel, I don't want to live like that.

01:11:50.800 Yeah.

01:11:51.380 So, I was running a shelter at the time for human trafficking victims.

01:11:57.380 And I began to realize that a lot of the people who were coming to the shelter, there were people who were ultimately going to testify against groups.

01:12:08.600 And I'm like, well, why are they testifying against these low-level guys when there are these guys in Mexico who are the bosses and nothing's happening to them, right?

01:12:16.060 That's how this all started.

01:12:17.260 And so, when I started the border project, I was just trying to comprehend, like, how is this possible that there are these people in Mexico who are behind all these awful things and they get away with it, right?

01:12:28.920 Like, why don't we do something?

01:12:30.300 That's how this started.

01:12:32.240 So, this bringing a voice, it turns out it's in Americans' best interest that people in Mexico have a voice, right?

01:12:41.800 These affected communities.

01:12:42.960 But it's also in their best interest that they have a voice.

01:12:47.740 It's everyone's best interest that there's more voices.

01:12:49.800 Except for the cartels and those on the tank.

01:12:51.640 Right.

01:12:52.260 Right.

01:12:52.780 But let's be real.

01:12:54.280 Like, they're not, I'm Brandon.

01:12:57.360 I have relationships, right?

01:12:59.720 Some small degree of attention and notoriety on what I do.

01:13:05.680 You have a much larger degree.

01:13:07.880 They're not going to kill you.

01:13:10.280 They can't.

01:13:10.920 They would be decimated, destroyed.

01:13:12.960 So, you can talk back.

01:13:16.180 You can say something about them.

01:13:18.220 But the people there, like we just talked about, they can't.

01:13:20.960 Yeah, I know.

01:13:21.360 They need people like me and ultimately people, more important, people like you.

01:13:25.780 Doubt it.

01:13:27.360 To be that voice.

01:13:29.440 Well, this is something I felt passionately about for a long time in what happened on the border in the last five years.

01:13:40.280 For people not to understand how evil that was, and we just threw money and opportunity, not to the people of Mexico, money and opportunity to all of these cartels.

01:13:57.340 And I don't know what the right thing to do is, but I hope we just wipe them from the face of the earth.

01:14:02.380 I mean, set Mexico free.

01:14:04.860 There's no reason.

01:14:05.840 You know, we're on the same continent.

01:14:07.420 There's absolutely no reason we live this way and they live that way if it had natural resources and everything else.

01:14:15.800 It's just corruption.

01:14:17.720 And unfortunately, we were headed in that direction deeply, but, deeply, but, gosh, we have an opportunity to help and to help ourselves, too.

01:14:30.520 I mean, it's got to stop.

01:14:34.280 Everyone's best interest.

01:14:35.320 Everyone's best interest.

01:14:35.700 Except for those.

01:14:36.720 Except for.

01:14:37.880 Cartels.

01:14:38.680 And that's fine, but it's in, it's in Americans' best interest.

01:14:44.620 It's in Mexicans' best interest.

01:14:46.340 It's in the whole world's best interest.

01:14:47.940 And it's in the best interest of that guy you talked about that is sitting on the border.

01:14:52.420 He doesn't have a job.

01:14:53.560 He just doesn't want his sisters to be raped.

01:14:55.760 It's in his best interest, too.

01:14:57.580 He's not too far gone yet.

01:15:00.040 Mexico is full of beautiful people and it's full of resources.

01:15:06.820 They could have a really good situation, right?

01:15:11.220 They could have an economy that blessed everyone there, right?

01:15:16.320 And I don't mean that in a socialist way.

01:15:17.580 I just mean that.

01:15:18.100 Yeah, it does.

01:15:18.380 You know, you get it.

01:15:19.700 They could have a really good situation, but they need a little help.

01:15:24.380 And the people in charge there are in a situation where they're preventing that help, right?

01:15:32.540 But we can't treat Mexico.

01:15:35.220 We're not dealing with Canada.

01:15:36.960 We're not dealing with the United Kingdom.

01:15:39.420 We're not dealing with France.

01:15:40.440 We're dealing with a failing.

01:15:43.040 It's not failed yet, but it's considered a fragile narco state.

01:15:48.240 That is what we're dealing with.

01:15:50.240 And if we continue to try to deal with them like we're dealing with France or the UK, we're not going to have success.

01:15:56.920 We have to treat them like a fragile narco state.

01:16:00.980 We have to deal with them accordingly as we treat other narco or terrorist run straights.

01:16:08.640 Now it is technically considered a terrorist run.

01:16:13.100 Cartel Alisco, CJNG has a lot of power.

01:16:16.160 They have control.

01:16:16.840 They have relationships with the current secretary of defense.

01:16:22.960 Now he's a foreign terrorist.

01:16:26.040 His organization is a foreign terror organization.

01:16:29.700 Which means we no longer have to tell the secretary of Mexico's defense.

01:16:34.420 What did we do with Osama bin Laden?

01:16:36.760 Did we inform all of them and go through all the appropriate channels to take Osama?

01:16:42.260 Of course we didn't because they were protecting him.

01:16:43.940 And that's, I think, where we are with Mexico.

01:16:49.840 Thank you for everything that you're doing.

01:16:51.900 Please stay safe and stay close to God.

01:16:54.680 You need all the divine protection and everybody around you needed it well.

01:17:00.380 But I think you're the only one that I have met in my entire career that takes this truly seriously and has dedicated their life to it.

01:17:11.580 So thank you.

01:17:12.600 Thank you, Glenn.

01:17:13.280 Appreciate it.

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The Glenn Beck Program - April 12, 2025

Ep 253 ｜ Why Trump Must ANNIHILATE Mexico’s Cartels Like ISIS ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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