The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 256 ｜ Is the New American Pope Catholic？｜ Bishop Strickland ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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00:01:18.920 Well, we have a new pope.

00:01:22.260 Moments before this recording, in fact, as I began recording, we saw white smoke over the Sistine Chapel.

00:01:29.380 And we now know the name of the man who will lead almost one and a half billion Catholics worldwide.

00:01:35.400 He's the first American pope, Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost.

00:01:40.980 He's a native of Chicago.

00:01:42.920 He took the name of Pope Leo XIV.

00:01:45.420 Will he continue down the progressive path of Pope Francis, or will we see a return to something more traditional?

00:01:53.520 Well, my next guest has warned that there are wolves roaming freely in the conclave.

00:01:58.700 He is also the same man who called on every bishop and cardinal in America to publicly and unequivocally state that Pope Francis is no longer teaching the Catholic faith.

00:02:10.860 He was removed from his position in Tyler, Texas, by the pope himself for that.

00:02:16.620 But he has not abandoned his faith, and I thank him for that.

00:02:20.700 To forecast the future of the Catholic Church and why every American should be paying attention to this,

00:02:25.700 we have Bishop Joseph Strickland, as the pope was announced in real time at the time of this recording.

00:02:34.760 Bishop, how are you, sir?

00:02:50.900 Good, Glenn.

00:02:51.760 Good to be back with you.

00:02:53.480 Thank you.

00:02:54.260 We have white smoke from the chimney.

00:02:56.880 That's a pretty fast, I mean, historically speaking, I think the fastest or the average is three days, and it's only been a couple of days.

00:03:08.520 What are you expecting?

00:03:11.820 Well, I'm not sure what I'm expecting, but it is amazing to just come on with you and you say, I mean, the last I'd seen it was still black smoke.

00:03:22.460 As I'm sitting down in my chair, I said, well, we have to say at this point, and then I saw the white smoke.

00:03:30.940 It's amazing.

00:03:32.140 Well, it had to have been the last, of course, Rome is several hours ahead, so it was the last vote of the day.

00:03:41.260 But as you said, I mean, if that's accurate, I presume all your sources are accurate.

00:03:47.460 No, the Vatican has verified it.

00:03:50.320 Okay.

00:03:50.640 We just don't have a name yet.

00:03:52.460 Yeah.

00:03:53.200 Well, it'll take a bit to get the new pope into the white cassock and all of that, but it's amazing times, really.

00:04:04.640 And I'm amazed at the interest, really.

00:04:08.420 I'm very pleased, really, at the worldwide interest.

00:04:11.740 I mean, social media has been preoccupied with the conclave.

00:04:17.120 And I can imagine many non-Catholics and others saying, please, let's get on with something else.

00:04:23.340 Well, I have to tell you, I think part of it is it is such an ancient ritual.

00:04:32.120 Who is locked into an area with a bunch of people that have to vote, and it's all secret, and they take an oath before they close the doors, and then they wax seal the doors so they make sure that no one is coming out, no information in or out.

00:04:49.820 And what do they do when they get in?

00:04:51.980 Do they give speeches?

00:04:54.040 Do they politic?

00:04:55.980 How does this happen?

00:04:58.340 Well, obviously, I've never been in there, and it's all under pontifical secret.

00:05:03.780 Oh, so nobody really knows even how it happened, like, with Francis.

00:05:10.060 It's just secret.

00:05:11.640 Well, we hear different reports, but there's certainly no official report from Rome that says this is what happened.

00:05:17.960 We never get that.

00:05:20.280 And this time as well, we'll hear different stories as things move on and the Pope takes office.

00:05:28.220 Because we'll hear stories about how this election came about, as we've heard in the past, but we always have to somewhat take it with a grain of salt.

00:05:37.300 Not that they're not telling the truth, but it's one person reporting.

00:05:41.900 It's not an official message of this is how the election unfolded.

00:05:46.500 So before we go further and closer into what is happening right now, let me go back and kind of sweep up on the last Pope.

00:05:55.820 Well, Benedict, he resigned, but he didn't resign.

00:06:01.780 He resigned portions of it, correct?

00:06:07.040 Well, yeah.

00:06:08.220 Explain that.

00:06:10.320 Well, I don't know if I can explain it, but I think as you say that, Glenn, it really ushered in 12 years of confusion right from the get-go.

00:06:21.560 From Pope Benedict's resignation for whatever reasons, and I never read or heard a clear answer to why he did this.

00:06:31.400 It was certainly a controversial step and somewhat cloaked in mystery, even though he did make some statements that he did this freely and all.

00:06:44.940 But I think it really ushered in the papacy that followed with Pope Francis.

00:06:53.660 Tremendous confusion, tremendous contradiction, and that is really troublesome for the church and for the world.

00:07:02.680 I think that the church needs to be clear.

00:07:05.300 As, you know, many people have asked me what qualities in the Pope, and I mean, some of the questions that you have, I'm sure, what am I looking for?

00:07:14.760 And what really came to mind for me was what we say in the creed of the Catholic faith, one holy, Catholic, and apostolic.

00:07:23.560 That's a good outline for who the Pope needs to be, one in the sense of promoting unity.

00:07:29.880 That's one of the main jobs of the papacy, to keep the body of Christ that is the church united, holy, to look to the sacred, to have supernatural faith,

00:07:39.660 to know that this world and all its appearances is not the totality of who we are or who the truth is.

00:07:47.160 One holy Catholic, meaning all over the world uniting that, I mean, every nation, there's really no other entity in the world, never has been.

00:07:58.880 I mean, I guess the British Empire came close, the Russian Empire wanted to come close,

00:08:04.440 but no entity in the world has that worldwide presence that the Catholic Church has.

00:08:12.300 It is Catholic in that sense, which just means universal, katolekos, a universal faith that is the one faith of Christ,

00:08:21.820 an apostolic rooted in the apostles.

00:08:24.420 There were 12 apostles, one betrayed, 11 remained faithful, and ultimately all but one of those 11 died for their faith in Jesus Christ.

00:08:35.760 So, you know, the old joke is, is the Pope Catholic? 0.59

00:08:40.140 I mean, when it comes to Francis, I mean, I used to be a Catholic, I grew up Catholic, a lot of my family is still Catholic.

00:08:50.660 My wife's family is Catholic, so we have lots of Catholic roots.

00:08:59.740 And I don't think that the last Pope was really Catholic, because he wasn't preaching the Catholic faith.

00:09:07.040 Absolutely. And in some ways, I mean, Pope Francis never said it clearly, but I think to respect what he did say,

00:09:15.780 he said he wanted a different church, he wanted to change, he wanted to make a mess.

00:09:22.100 And in those ways, following the Catholic faith is tradition.

00:09:28.200 I mean, it is, we believe, and instituted by Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

00:09:34.360 And so, tradition and staying true to tradition, orthodoxy, is what the Catholic faith is.

00:09:42.220 So, to say we're going to do something different, in many ways, in itself, isn't Catholic.

00:09:48.700 But isn't the Pope the guy to change it, if it's going to change?

00:09:57.700 Or does that have to be done in a conclave, or what are they called? Synods, right?

00:10:03.980 Isn't that what that is?

00:10:04.300 Synods, councils, yeah.

00:10:06.940 Certainly, the Pope has supreme authority.

00:10:09.860 There is no law of the Church above the Pope.

00:10:15.980 So, it has tremendous power, but ultimately, the Pope answers to God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

00:10:24.620 Jesus Christ is really the head of the Church.

00:10:27.940 And interestingly, Pope Francis, and we certainly continue to pray for Pope Francis,

00:10:33.340 as we pray for anyone who's died in recent weeks, but Pope Francis really, early on, denied that he was.

00:10:43.720 He didn't want to accept the title, Vicar of Christ.

00:10:47.300 That's who the Pope is.

00:10:48.740 He's a vicar of Jesus Christ, with Christ as the head of the Church.

00:10:52.940 What do you define vicar?

00:10:56.440 Well, it's basically representative, is one word you can use.

00:11:01.120 It's, you could say, delegate.

00:11:03.860 It's the one who speaks for Christ.

00:11:07.300 And when tradition begins to be contradicted by the one speaking for Christ, we've got confusion.

00:11:13.820 And that's what we had under Pope Francis.

00:11:15.660 And that's what I pray we move away from with whoever's been elected.

00:11:20.620 Let me just tell the control room, if there's a way to bring up any of the networks

00:11:27.120 when the new Pope actually comes out into the balcony, I'd like to do that.

00:11:32.620 There are now announcements of a new Pope from the Vatican balcony is imminent now.

00:11:38.500 And the balcony is, I mean, it is, the Sistine Chapel is the altar.

00:11:46.480 What is the altar piece that was made that kind of looms over you?

00:11:52.220 Yeah, the last judgment.

00:11:53.760 Yeah, the last judgment.

00:11:55.340 The Pope, when he's selected, he goes through a little door in that wall, just off of the altar.

00:12:01.240 And he goes into a little room, which is only made for him, where he has the white vestments.

00:12:06.000 They fit him for the white vestments.

00:12:08.840 And he is allowed to pray in there.

00:12:11.240 And doesn't he have to come out and accept it?

00:12:13.340 Or does he accept it beforehand?

00:12:15.660 Yeah, he accepts it before it's announced.

00:12:18.080 They wouldn't announce it.

00:12:18.660 Right, right, right.

00:12:19.280 But I mean, he goes, I know that he goes in for quiet reflection.

00:12:22.800 And that's when he selects his name, right?

00:12:25.760 Yeah.

00:12:26.300 Yeah.

00:12:27.160 And when he puts on, I mean, traditionally, the white cassock, he is the Pope after he accepts.

00:12:34.880 And so he's presented to the world by tradition.

00:12:37.620 I mean, in our lifetimes and throughout the Church's history, the Pope would be presented to, he's the Bishop of Rome.

00:12:47.780 By being elected Pope, he's named Bishop of Rome, which is the primal sea of the Catholic Church, the Roman Catholic Church.

00:12:56.660 So he's proclaimed as Bishop of Rome, you know, not that many papacies ago, it would have been announced on that balcony, on the loggia, as they call it, there in St. Peter's Square.

00:13:09.140 And the people hearing it would have been the people of Rome.

00:13:12.800 We have a new bishop, the Bishop of, of course, he's the Pope of the World Church as well.

00:13:18.420 You know, there is one cardinal that I actually am rooting for.

00:13:24.420 I don't have a horse in this, but, you know, or a reason, you know, but I do, I do, I would love to see the cardinal.

00:13:31.380 I think he's from Ghana.

00:13:33.460 Very, very traditional.

00:13:35.700 I mean, Africa.

00:13:37.080 Cardinal Stara?

00:13:38.760 Maybe, maybe.

00:13:40.260 Yeah.

00:13:41.180 He's very traditional.

00:13:42.600 I mean, Africa is on fire with Catholicism right now. 1.00

00:13:48.200 It is probably expanding there and in China, probably faster than any place else, where Europe is really dying and the United States is dying in faith as well.

00:13:58.900 There is a change with the young people now, but to have the next pope, a black African cardinal, would be remarkable.

00:14:11.680 It would be.

00:14:12.260 It would be.

00:14:13.260 Do you know much about him or who, who are you looking?

00:14:18.520 Is there somebody you're thinking, I hope it's not this and I hope it is this?

00:14:23.620 Well, I, Cardinal Serra would be at the top of my list.

00:14:27.420 He hasn't really been mentioned as even really by those who are predicting things.

00:14:31.760 I haven't even heard his name mentioned as in the running as far as the, but I would be, I mean, I think he would be a great blessing.

00:14:40.280 We have to acknowledge whoever is named the pope.

00:14:43.560 It's a huge task that they will take on.

00:14:48.320 And so, as I've encouraged people, as we wait for the name to be announced, we can't cease praying, even if we are disappointed or in dismay at the name.

00:15:03.200 And it could happen that way.

00:15:04.520 We still have to keep praying.

00:15:06.920 It's Christ's church.

00:15:08.460 We have to remain faithful.

00:15:10.420 And as I've mentioned to people as we've led up to this conclave, through the church's history, there have been popes elected in past centuries.

00:15:19.780 I mean, we're talking 2,000 years.

00:15:22.000 There have been popes elected who are very different men from the way they governed the papacy and the way they lived as popes.

00:15:29.040 So, we can pray for that if the change is necessary, that we can pray for that, whoever is named.

00:15:37.220 The African cardinal said it needs to be a man deeply in Jesus Christ.

00:15:43.520 And absolutely, it's Christ's church, and we always have to remember that.

00:15:48.420 Does it, does it, is there the possibility, because I'm in the political world, and the papacy is a political office in many ways.

00:15:56.620 And I was over with Benedict the last time he brought the cardinals together and was appointing new cardinals.

00:16:06.640 And I was supposed to meet with him that time, and something happened, but I was with a lot of the cardinals, who I think are the good guys, very, very Christ-like.

00:16:17.360 And there was a real split in, you know, I mean, it was, there was a war, there was a civil war that was going on at the time.

00:16:29.180 Is that still like that?

00:16:31.880 Is that still happening?

00:16:34.120 Oh, yes.

00:16:34.840 I think that that clearly, because there are many of the cardinals that are, that make Pope Francis look very Catholic.

00:16:44.680 I mean, honestly, some of them have been very, Pope Francis never was clear about some of the things that concerned me.

00:16:52.980 He was always, and to me, that was a concern.

00:16:55.360 The Pope needed to not be ambiguous and confusing.

00:16:59.140 But a lot of these cardinals have been anything but confusing about their stance on moral issues, on all kinds of issues.

00:17:07.040 So, I think that definitely the fractures have been very real on clay.

00:17:15.380 Is there a possibility that you look at what happened with Francis and that this was kind of the first color revolution?

00:17:26.540 We're seeing the deep state in all of these countries decide, no, not that person, that person.

00:17:36.060 And they're taking them out.

00:17:37.420 Do you think there's a possibility that happened with Francis?

00:17:40.700 Oh, I do believe that is a possibility.

00:17:44.400 I mean, I certainly don't know.

00:17:45.880 But, I mean, Pope Francis was very much on the, in the globalism kind of side of things.

00:17:54.100 And that's very dangerous because, you know, much of the globalist agenda is very far from the doctrine of the Catholic church.

00:18:03.660 But you have, now you have 80% of those who voted, 80% of the cardinals were appointed by Francis.

00:18:11.900 Does that mean the same as it would if it was, you know, the Democrats or the Republicans named, you know, all the people in Congress that were going to vote?

00:18:25.500 Does it mean the same or can you, can you marshal that many people?

00:18:31.320 Yeah, it really is significant.

00:18:35.460 Never been done before?

00:18:37.480 I don't think to this degree.

00:18:39.620 I mean, really, you're probably aware that the number by, the law said for a conclave, a limit of 120.

00:18:49.000 Right.

00:18:49.640 It went to 133 because Pope Francis had named so many more.

00:18:55.480 I mean, there, I think there were about 180 cardinals gathered, 133 electors, because that's the number that was under 80 years old.

00:19:06.220 So, so, so is this even legal?

00:19:12.780 Well, that, that question has been raised, but certainly, you know, all the cardinals that gathered didn't, uh, didn't have a problem.

00:19:21.000 Yeah.

00:19:21.200 Okay.

00:19:21.420 So, you know, who knows?

00:19:23.200 I mean, if the controversy continues, that question may be raised.

00:19:27.120 Was this legal?

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00:20:56.000 You wrote, wolves roam freely among the flock these days.

00:21:02.340 Can you go deeper in that?

00:21:04.240 Well, and really, Glenn, that isn't something that we should see as startling new revelation.

00:21:13.020 Christ speaks that way.

00:21:14.320 When he's bringing the truth to the world, if you look at the gospel of Jesus Christ, all four gospels, the message that he brings, I think it's very obvious whether you believe him or not.

00:21:26.660 I think it's very obvious that he knew there would be tremendous opposition.

00:21:31.320 There's one passage in the gospel we read recently in one of the daily readings at Mass where he's sending the 72 out in the gospel.

00:21:40.660 While he's still alive doing his public ministry, he sends 72 out to begin to proclaim the message.

00:21:48.500 And he says there, I'm sending you as lambs amongst wolves.

00:21:53.580 Christ says that.

00:21:54.400 And so it's always been sort of that reality.

00:21:58.140 It turns out, I mean, the first wolf that was part of the closest number with Jesus Christ was Judas's betrayer.

00:22:09.880 He was right there at the Last Supper.

00:22:11.940 Right.

00:22:12.180 So the wolves have always been present.

00:22:14.860 And that's just the reality of the world.

00:22:17.920 There's resistance to the truth.

00:22:19.640 And that's powerful in our time.

00:22:22.520 When you said that Pope Francis established a counterculture church, what does that mean?

00:22:31.140 Well, counterculture in the sense of counter to the culture of the church.

00:22:36.200 One of the sayings about the Catholic church is to be in the world, but not of the world.

00:22:42.660 I think a simple way of looking at Pope Francis' papacy, he was pushing a church that was in the world

00:22:49.100 and of the world, that it was a world church.

00:22:52.920 And even that expression was used.

00:22:55.460 I mean, a worldwide community of humanity.

00:23:00.020 And really, the synod and the synod on synodality, and then as it's been proclaimed, I mean, we'll

00:23:05.780 see if this next pope is carrying through with that.

00:23:09.000 Ecclesial assemblies with mostly lay people gathered, that's simply not Catholic.

00:23:14.800 That's not the hierarchical church that Jesus Christ established.

00:23:19.660 And so to continue on that path, to me, is very harmful and contradictory to the church

00:23:26.980 that Christ established.

00:23:29.220 Can you tell me, you have talked about a scandal involving Archbishop McCarrick.

00:23:35.000 What is that?

00:23:37.560 What happened?

00:23:38.740 Was there a cover-up?

00:23:40.280 What is that story about?

00:23:41.980 Well, I mean, that made national news back in 2018, or worldwide news.

00:23:51.240 And eventually, McCarrick was removed from being a cardinal and even being a cleric.

00:23:58.480 He died recently.

00:23:59.560 We pray for him, as we pray for all who have died.

00:24:01.800 Sure.

00:24:01.880 But McCarrick, the problem with McCarrick, and honestly, Glenn, the last time I was in

00:24:08.360 Rome, I spoke, we were there, the Texas bishops were there on what's called a non-limina.

00:24:14.200 And I asked, the last time I spoke to Pope Francis, I asked a question.

00:24:19.820 I said, Holy Father, can you tell us about the McCarrick report?

00:24:23.880 It hadn't come out yet.

00:24:25.120 And so Pope Francis answered that question.

00:24:29.540 But what the McCarrick report didn't do, to me, it wasn't really a report.

00:24:35.000 It was sort of a cataloging of McCarrick's crimes, which were terrible.

00:24:39.660 But it never got to saying, and this cardinal and this archbishop were complicit in that

00:24:46.840 and need to be dealt with.

00:24:49.300 There were a lot of the cardinals involved.

00:24:52.300 I mean, McCarrick was a real mover and shaker.

00:24:55.280 I mean, he was very involved in China and all of that.

00:24:59.100 He was involved in lots of—he was a great fundraiser.

00:25:03.360 He was a very charismatic man.

00:25:05.100 I don't know that I ever met him.

00:25:06.920 I may have been there when he was at different meetings.

00:25:09.940 But McCarrick was powerful, and he was a kingmaker.

00:25:16.220 A lot of the bishops, you can trace the lines back to McCarrick.

00:25:21.160 That's a problem, and it hasn't been dealt with because they're in power.

00:25:26.700 So they don't want to acknowledge that they had some complicity with what McCarrick was

00:25:33.120 proven to have done.

00:25:35.200 And so the power base has protected that.

00:25:38.660 And I think, really, Glenn, until we get to the bottom of some of that, the divisions

00:25:44.820 and the turmoil in the church is going to continue.

00:25:47.660 I will tell you that all of our governments, if you will, and I think a lot of our churches

00:25:52.200 are going through the same thing.

00:25:53.620 There is evil inside, and it is being protected by the power of each of these organizations.

00:26:02.300 And until we lance that boil and deal with the ugliness of it, and on all things, we're

00:26:08.860 not going to be able to heal because it's allowed to create fear in others of being exposed

00:26:18.580 and everything else.

00:26:20.960 So according to the Daily Mail, the darkest mystery of Francis' 12-year reign was his persistent

00:26:26.940 habit of shielding credibly accused and even convicted sexual predators from justice.

00:26:33.380 The Pope can twist or ignore canon law, which is supposed to punish sex offenders, and the

00:26:38.660 Vatican State's criminal law without being challenged.

00:26:41.620 But that's precisely what he did, again and again.

00:26:45.620 Is that true?

00:26:48.140 Yes.

00:26:49.040 I mean, that's just reality.

00:26:51.160 That's documented.

00:26:52.000 There were, and it's really tragic that so many clerics who, you know, were proven to

00:27:01.620 have abused and, I mean, financial, all sorts of issues, and if they were in the favor of

00:27:09.220 Pope Francis, it was overlooked.

00:27:12.380 It's, there's an artist, the name is slipping me right now, but Rupnik.

00:27:18.600 To me, it's not beautiful art anyway, bug eyes kind of, I mean, but that art is all over the

00:27:27.500 place because Pope Francis was promoting this man who has been very clearly, not just alleged

00:27:34.220 or not just whispers, very clearly, he abused many people in terribly evil ways, and Pope Francis

00:27:43.800 overlooked it and welcomed his art in places like Lourdes.

00:27:48.600 Wow.

00:27:49.320 Where the Blessed Mother appeared, part of the facade of the beautiful church there is

00:27:56.320 covered with Rupnik art.

00:27:58.660 That kind of duplicity and corruption, it's just deeply harmful.

00:28:04.000 And like you said, it confuses people, it causes people to turn their back on the church,

00:28:08.860 and I've always urged people, don't leave because of the human failings.

00:28:13.380 They're very real.

00:28:14.160 Right.

00:28:14.880 We've seen it through the centuries, but we've seen it in our time, it slaps you in

00:28:18.560 the face, but it's still the church of Jesus Christ, the church that he established.

00:28:24.180 We have to pray for a purification of the church, and that starts with me. 0.87

00:28:28.220 I'm a sinner.

00:28:29.140 We all have to be more and more purified in the truth that sets us free.

00:28:34.160 Well, I will tell you, I think it's Isaiah where the Lord says, I'll clean out my own

00:28:39.680 house first.

00:28:40.380 So there will be a purifying process in all of our churches, all of our faith.

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00:30:47.420 I want to compare American and global Catholic trends because there is a surge in young people

00:30:55.100 now that are interested in Catholicism and a return to the more traditional, I mean, the

00:31:03.300 Latin mass.

00:31:04.520 Is this a uniquely American thing or is this globally?

00:31:10.780 I think it's global.

00:31:12.520 You know, we're a very free society.

00:31:16.060 Thankfully, we have free speech.

00:31:18.380 People are able to communicate more freely, and they do, but I don't think it's limited

00:31:24.360 to the United States.

00:31:26.220 I mean, I've heard in France the same thing has happened.

00:31:29.120 Even in some of the countries in Europe that are where the church is really being decimated,

00:31:34.540 young people are returning, and they're returning to tradition and formal Orthodox faith.

00:31:43.320 Let's talk about that for a second, because as they're now marching around the square and assembling, I don't even know what, but the Swiss Guard and others are marching now, and we're waiting for the Pope to emerge from the Vatican balcony at any minute.

00:32:00.780 Let me talk about that.

00:32:03.360 Is what's happening, the search for traditionalism, the search for, I think in some ways, ritualism, tradition, is that because we have just destroyed all tradition in our life?

00:32:25.280 You know, just everything is up for grabs, and there is something to be said of tradition and order that brings that peace and deeper understanding of your relationship with the sacred.

00:32:41.860 I mean, it bothers me.

00:32:43.600 You go anywhere, and everybody dresses the same, no matter you're meeting the President of the United States, the Pope, or, you know, you're at a baseball game.

00:32:53.140 There is something to be said for decorum and tradition and setting of things apart, and we don't do that anymore.

00:33:02.020 Is that what you think people are flocking to when they see things like the Latin Mass?

00:33:08.620 You have to work for it a little bit.

00:33:10.040 Yeah, well, really, Glenn, I think what you're talking about now goes just about as deep as any issue, and it fits right into Catholic theology that I believe is the reality that we live.

00:33:27.900 I know, you know, 1.5 billion more or less Catholics, so that means a whole lot of people aren't Catholic in the world.

00:33:34.540 Yeah, right.

00:34:04.520 A man, a man in all things but sin, but Jesus Christ, truth, walking the earth, then that sets up the real understanding for why are people—it's part of our DNA.

00:34:18.140 We come from truth.

00:34:19.940 We yearn for truth.

00:34:21.700 When the Scripture says the truth sets you free, the reason for that is it brings you home.

00:34:30.220 It brings you to who you are.

00:34:32.100 It brings you to balance and meaning in the universe.

00:34:36.020 And whenever we depart from truth, whether personally as I sin or globally or as nations, when we veer off from the truth, if you look through history, things trace back ultimately to the truth, to the truth that we are created by truth, by God.

00:34:57.960 And so I think that's the natural instinct, especially of young people.

00:35:02.980 I mean, if you look at children, they have a natural instinct to smell fake.

00:35:09.640 And teenagers, especially, they can tell you, that's a fake person, or that person's real.

00:35:16.600 They may like it or not.

00:35:18.280 They may hate what they're saying, but they have a barometer for that, that we kind of get jaded about as we get older and more experienced.

00:35:26.760 We don't necessarily grow in wisdom as we get older.

00:35:29.500 But so all of that, I think, is a natural instinct.

00:35:33.740 And I think that it's for that reason that you see young people that are entering into the world, entering into their journey through life after leaving home and beginning to set up a career and a family.

00:35:46.000 And they're gravitating to those pillars of truth that they long for and that they see some stability in instead of everything's up for grabs.

00:35:58.720 I mean, it's who are we?

00:35:59.980 Well, you just identify as whoever you want to be today.

00:36:03.980 I mean, that's transmitted by the world.

00:36:06.220 People are rejecting it because it's not the truth.

00:36:08.860 So if there is a more progressive pope, wouldn't that hurt the search of the youth?

00:36:21.360 Because I don't know a single person that is in school and even now in college, the majority of them that I know are all saying,

00:36:36.880 this is so ridiculous, all of this stuff that is being shoveled, where the last generation bought it.

00:36:43.620 This generation is saying, this doesn't make any sense. 0.97

00:36:47.260 And they haven't directly tied it to suicidal ideation yet.

00:36:53.460 But I have.

00:36:54.620 I think when we have disconnected from the truth this far, you lose, as you said, the sense of who you are,

00:37:03.640 the sense of meaning, the sense of what is possible in your life, even forgiveness.

00:37:10.580 When you start talking about collective salvation, which is really a political kind of thing now that was introduced into our society,

00:37:19.860 there is no such thing as collective salvation.

00:37:22.700 The Lord came for each individual one at a time, which then gives you more meaning.

00:37:27.580 So if we have a more progressive pope, does that set the church back?

00:37:35.740 Well, it continues the fracturing that we've been seeing.

00:37:40.480 Sadly, people walk away.

00:37:42.600 But also, as we've said, and people that are attracted to the truth, I urge them to stay with the church

00:37:50.260 because it is, as flawed as she is in human circumstances, she is divinely founded and divinely led and divinely inspired.

00:38:02.160 And there's, as my mother used to say, I grew up Catholic, always been Catholic.

00:38:08.560 And my mother used to tell us, quoting St. Peter from the gospel,

00:38:13.480 Lord, to whom shall we go?

00:38:14.940 And I was a kid of the, you know, coming of age in the 60s, 70s.

00:38:20.260 That was a time of turmoil as well.

00:38:22.360 That was a time of lots of questioning.

00:38:25.340 And so my mother was dealing with that. 0.85

00:38:27.640 And we lived in a very non-Catholic area where a lot of my classmates, there weren't many Catholics in my school,

00:38:34.100 but a lot of them are no longer Catholic.

00:38:36.580 They walked away from it.

00:38:38.360 But my mother always said, Lord, to whom shall we go?

00:38:41.600 I mean, what other option is there if you're going to leave the font of truth that is the Catholic Church?

00:38:51.160 I mean, you can, I mean, certainly people do, and they go off to other groups.

00:38:56.020 But it never really, I can't see how it fully answers the questions that maybe caused them to leave the Catholic Church.

00:39:05.240 When you were, I don't even know what happened to you with Francis, how you would describe it.

00:39:12.640 You weren't excommunicated, right?

00:39:14.660 No.

00:39:15.200 Yeah, you were just removed as the bishop.

00:39:17.900 Yeah.

00:39:18.320 I was removed from that office, which the Pope has full authority to do.

00:39:23.280 Right.

00:39:23.500 But I'm still a bishop.

00:39:25.520 I'm still a bishop in good standing.

00:39:29.060 I can celebrate all the sacraments.

00:39:30.800 I can do everything a bishop does.

00:39:33.160 Politically, it's been tricky because some bishops will welcome me into their diocese to have a mass or to give a talk.

00:39:41.080 Other bishops won't because of the politics.

00:39:43.640 You know, they don't want to get in trouble with the archbishop or the cardinal or the Vatican for, you know, supporting me or making it look like I'm okay when so many see me as in opposition to the Pope.

00:40:01.060 I really, as a Catholic, that's a very serious issue to be acting in opposition to the Pope.

00:40:09.040 I always tried to emphasize for myself and those I spoke with, I'm supporting Christ, the truth that he proclaimed, the gospel that he taught, and the church that he established.

00:40:23.800 If that puts me in opposition to Pope Francis or any Pope or any cardinal, then so be it.

00:40:31.280 And that's where I've found myself.

00:40:33.120 Now, is it, was it ever something that you went, I, I, I, gosh, I don't know if I can do this.

00:40:41.340 I mean, I, because of your loyalty to the faith, did it ever occur to you to not do what you were doing?

00:40:51.400 Absolutely.

00:40:51.840 I mean, I really prayerfully struggled with and grappled with because, you know, we're supposed to be obedient to our superiors in the Catholic faith.

00:41:02.680 I mean, the priest that I worked with made a promise of obedience to me as their bishop, but it's a hierarchical obedience.

00:41:11.120 I looked at Thomas Aquinas to get some guidance, and he helped with a couple of brief paragraphs.

00:41:18.580 Obedience is ultimately, again, going back to if God is truth and we want to be obedient to the truth, obedience ultimately is obedience to God.

00:41:28.580 I like the image of a ladder.

00:41:32.380 And the Catholic Church is hierarchical with God at the top of that ladder.

00:41:38.460 The Pope, the Vicar of Christ, is the man on earth guiding us to the top of the ladder, which is the truth of God.

00:41:47.140 If the Pope is shaky there, then you still go to God for the truth.

00:41:52.980 I mean, that's – St. Thomas Aquinas really helped me.

00:41:56.200 He said, also, be respectful to whoever the authority is.

00:42:00.840 And I think we do need to do that.

00:42:02.460 I tried to do that.

00:42:04.020 I mean, frankly, when Pope Francis said, you're removed, I didn't argue.

00:42:09.500 I didn't rebel.

00:42:10.500 I just said, yes, Holy Father, I'm gone.

00:42:13.040 Because he had that full authority as Pope.

00:42:16.700 Pope Benedict named me Bishop of Tyler.

00:42:19.380 Pope Francis had absolute full authority to remove me as Bishop of Tyler, and I acknowledge that.

00:42:25.420 And so I did respect that.

00:42:28.200 But I had to be obedient truth-wise to God.

00:42:31.640 And there were too many instances since then and before that where Pope Francis was at least hedging on the truth, if not clearly denying it.

00:42:41.120 I mean, one thing that I've said to people often is, and I'm sure you're very aware of it with all of your work, personnel is policy.

00:42:50.180 And if you look at the personnel that Pope Francis either shielded or welcomed into his inner circle, that – the policy that that illustrates is not the Catholic faith.

00:43:04.100 Can you give me some examples?

00:43:05.680 Well, this Rupnik, I mean, shielding this artist and welcoming his art with this man who's not just abusive, which is horrible, but also sacrilegious to the sacraments of the faith. 0.63

00:43:22.520 And just a bad guy.

00:43:24.860 And Pope Francis welcomes him.

00:43:27.060 I mean, I mean, you have pictures of him, you know, meeting with this Rupnik and welcoming his art and all over the Vatican and all over the church throughout the world.

00:43:37.220 That's one instance.

00:43:38.380 Frankly, Pope Francis, you know, wrote notes and made phone calls to Father James Martin, who clearly is playing loose with what the church teaches with homosexuality and sexual morality.

00:43:57.800 I mean, that's a huge issue that's been in the world in this time and in the church.

00:44:02.940 The church's teaching is very clear.

00:44:05.360 It's very challenging, especially in today's, you know, free-sex society. 0.99

00:44:10.940 But it's still – if it's the truth, it hasn't changed.

00:44:14.100 Well, if the family is the basic building, which I believe it is, it is the basic building block of the entire universe, the family.

00:44:23.440 Without the family, there is no life, you know.

00:44:26.840 It's the basis of humanity.

00:44:28.280 It is the basis of humanity, and God would be there to say family has to be ordered between a man and a woman because otherwise we die out. 0.51

00:44:41.480 Now, where you go from there on compassion and everything else, you know, but the truth is that if God made man, he wanted man to, I mean, be fruitful and multiply.

00:44:58.280 You have to have a man and a woman. 1.00

00:45:00.180 That is just the truth.

00:45:03.400 And as a church, you have to say that.

00:45:08.060 It doesn't mean you hate anybody or, you know, what you do beyond that, but that's the truth. 0.72

00:45:13.060 The compassion is for those who are confused about the truth.

00:45:16.560 Certainly, you're compassionate.

00:45:18.660 You encourage them to come to the truth, but it's not compassion to deny the truth, and that's too much of what's been happening.

00:45:27.060 Can you talk about just that with the compassion of, because we're right now saying that if you were born in the wrong body, which I don't think is even possible,

00:45:38.100 it's compassionate to coddle you in that, to confirm that truth that you believe is the truth, and even mutilate your body as a child.

00:45:56.160 Speak to misguided compassion.

00:46:01.480 Really, Glenn, that's a perfect way to put it.

00:46:05.680 It's really devastation dressed up as compassion, because it's not the truth.

00:46:13.660 And, I mean, DNA tells us that even the composition of a man's body and a woman's body, I mean, you can look at the pelvic structure.

00:46:22.640 All of it says, this is a man, this is a woman. 0.98

00:46:26.760 If people are in the gender dysphoria, it really is, to me, it is one of the areas where things are so broken, because, I mean, what does it mean to be a man or a woman? 0.98

00:46:45.400 I mean, you know, the question has been raised, what is a woman?

00:46:48.880 What is a man?

00:46:50.440 And that is insidious as the individual who maybe has some struggles.

00:46:56.860 To sort of confirm them in the struggle, I mean, that's where we are.

00:47:02.220 It's like, oh, well, just support them in this identity.

00:47:05.980 I mean, and we both, I'm sure, seem ridiculous extremes of this.

00:47:12.320 But one example that, to me, just illustrates how harmful it is and how distorted it is, there was a report, I presume it was a true report, you know, these days, you know, AI and everything.

00:47:25.880 But supposedly, a young man identified as a deer and got shot by a hunter thinking it was a deer.

00:47:38.000 I mean, that's the extreme of the lunacy of saying, oh, I identify.

00:47:44.980 And really, that illustrates, I mean, you can say, oh, well, that's just bizarre or whatever.

00:47:50.420 But it's the playing out of self-identifying and saying, okay, how God made me.

00:47:57.940 I don't have to understand that and if there are conflicts to come to a piece about who I am.

00:48:05.420 For one thing, Glenn, I think a big part of the problems that we see, young people, a lot of people, don't believe they are deeply loved by God.

00:48:19.040 Yes.

00:48:19.600 And when you don't believe that, it starts to erode your self-love.

00:48:24.860 I mean, there's an appropriate love of self.

00:48:27.020 We should treasure our life.

00:48:28.600 Yes.

00:48:28.840 Like you were talking about suicide.

00:48:30.600 That's sort of a final iteration of self-loathing that happens when you lose touch with who you are.

00:48:38.700 I think it also starts, though, you know, with the idea that God makes mistakes.

00:48:43.360 And let me, I don't want to compare this to sexuality or any of that.

00:48:49.340 I just want to speak from my experiences.

00:48:51.360 I am riddled with ADD.

00:48:55.580 I've had three suicides in my family.

00:48:59.880 It runs in the family.

00:49:01.920 I have been suicidal myself at times.

00:49:06.100 I am a alcoholic.

00:49:08.380 That also runs in my family.

00:49:10.400 All of those things are not who I am, and they are not curses given to me by God.

00:49:20.540 They may run in my family.

00:49:23.500 Whether that's genetic or not, I don't know.

00:49:27.580 I don't care.

00:49:28.840 What I do know is that God gives us things, not that he's assigning those things to me, but he is giving things to me to cope with those so I can conquer those things and become truly who I am.

00:49:49.940 And we don't preach that.

00:49:52.000 You don't hear that.

00:49:53.180 You hear, oh, poor you, I'm sorry that happened, and I am sorry that things have happened to people and into my own family, etc.

00:50:02.520 But this is a chance to celebrate because it pushes you to figure out who you are, that you do have a divine spark in you that can conquer even the hardest things that are known to man.

00:50:23.180 Darrell Bock Absolutely.

00:50:26.180 And what you're speaking of in Catholic terms, we call it grace.

00:50:32.520 Darrell Bock Yeah.

00:50:33.060 Darrell Bock Grace is what God offers.

00:50:36.000 Grace is God's life.

00:50:38.100 The sacraments give us sanctifying grace.

00:50:40.480 That's the language of our Catholic faith.

00:50:42.900 And that grace allows you to overcome whatever obstacles.

00:50:48.120 We're in a broken world.

00:50:49.700 I mean, we speak of original sin, a disordered, broken world, that God's grace—I mean, he loved the world so much, he sent his own son, Jesus Christ, to bring healing, to bring grace.

00:51:03.660 If we follow him, I mean, Christ says, you must take up your cross to follow me.

00:51:09.820 That's been left out of the picture as well.

00:51:12.420 Everyone follow Jesus, but don't take up the cross of repenting of your sins.

00:51:18.780 But as you're saying, Glenn, God's grace gives us the strength.

00:51:24.140 And, I mean, I could say in my whole life, I'm sure—I mean, you've overcome alcoholism.

00:51:28.440 That's huge.

00:51:29.060 And I'm a better man and a better friend to people who are struggling because of that.

00:51:37.720 It's a strength.

00:51:38.380 We all are.

00:51:39.220 Right.

00:51:39.660 You overcome—there's a beautiful image that I read about recently that in Japanese pottery—I forget the name of it, but they'll take broken pottery and lacquer it back together.

00:51:55.980 And they put gold or silver dust in the seams to beautify it.

00:52:01.460 And that's what God does.

00:52:02.880 Yes.

00:52:03.200 We're all broken vessels.

00:52:05.780 But through that—I mean, I understand, I don't know if it's biologically true, but that when you have a broken bone, it heals back stronger.

00:52:17.060 And I think that's another image of that same reality.

00:52:19.700 Through enduring the challenges and growing through them, not altering yourself, but just continuing to deal with it, you become a better person.

00:52:31.300 You become wiser.

00:52:32.360 You become stronger.

00:52:33.720 You become more of the person that God calls you to be.

00:52:38.180 And compassionate, recognizing others are walking that same path.

00:52:43.580 And I had a brother that died young, and it was not certified as a suicide, but, I mean, it was definitely—he attempted before, and it was officially ruled an accident, which was helpful to my parents.

00:53:00.120 But God has used that.

00:53:02.740 And it was a deeply broken time for our family, as you can imagine.

00:53:07.660 I mean, you've said it's happened in your—it's devastating.

00:53:11.660 But God has used that.

00:53:13.100 For me, when I, as a priest, can say that I know how hard this is, people can tell that you really do know, rather than just sort of saying the pastoral thing you're supposed to say.

00:53:30.020 So let me change subjects here.

00:53:31.100 The Pope is about to, they keep saying, emerge to the balcony, and we're supposed to learn his name here soon.

00:53:42.060 I just got back from Italy.

00:53:44.220 I was with some scholars on the Shroud of Turin, and we were supposed to see the actual Shroud of Turin.

00:53:51.240 They were going to open it up for these scholars, but it is actually the property of the Pope, and with the Pope dead, nobody can give them permission to open it up.

00:54:01.100 So we didn't get the opportunity to see the real thing.

00:54:03.880 But, you know, I have spent a couple of months now talking to these scholars, and I am absolutely convinced that that is the Shroud of Christ.

00:54:15.600 I mean, it is—as one of the—I think he was the physicist—the physicist and the chemist both said the same thing to me in separate occasions.

00:54:26.800 It's more ridiculous and harder to believe that it wasn't, you know, the burial shroud.

00:54:41.700 You might not be able to explain it, but all of the facts that are now starting to compile underneath, for you to dismiss the hard facts, it doesn't prove it to be real.

00:54:55.560 But it is—it's more—you're denying so much reality to be able to say, no, it's not.

00:55:06.200 You know, it's not saying it is, but to say, no, it's something else.

00:55:11.140 There's nothing in that other category that is saying it's something else.

00:55:17.320 And really, Glenn, I'm glad you brought that up, because I think there are real-world, tangible examples like that that are—

00:55:28.860 Yes.

00:55:29.300 I believe God is giving us in this time of where faith is ridiculed and so many people are leaving faith of whatever comes in and not believing in him.

00:55:38.300 God is giving us things like the Shroud.

00:55:40.980 Another example to me is the Tilma of Our Lady of Guadalupe.

00:55:45.380 I would encourage you to study that also.

00:55:47.640 So, Our Lady of Guadalupe, I wanted to ask them about that, because I was—I had an experience down at the Basilica for Our Lady of Guadalupe when I was very young.

00:56:00.140 And I've never really investigated that or anything.

00:56:06.420 Do you believe that's real?

00:56:09.220 Absolutely.

00:56:09.700 And it's very similar.

00:56:11.860 What you're saying about the Shroud, they will say the same thing about this Tilma from 500 years ago, that it's a pigment that doesn't exist.

00:56:24.100 It's put on that cloth in a way that we can't duplicate.

00:56:28.500 I mean, there are amazing things about the Tilma that are—to me, it's another gift that God has given us through the Blessed Virgin Mary.

00:56:38.720 500 years ago, converted a continent in so many ways to Catholicism.

00:56:44.360 I mean, we've lost ground there to some extent, but that image of the Tilma, they're just amazing things that he said.

00:56:53.540 This can't be explained.

00:56:57.420 I mean, it literally has the temperature of a living human body, the Tilma.

00:57:03.720 I mean, as it's there, hanging in the Basilica, it's been scientifically measured.

00:57:10.100 It has the temperature of about 98.6.

00:57:13.860 I mean, it's just one thing after another of amazing that, kind of like you're saying with the Shroud, people still scoff at it.

00:57:23.360 Yeah, sure.

00:57:24.360 There's no—I mean, God's going to require faith one way or another.

00:57:28.180 So you can believe in it or not believe in it, and it doesn't really matter to me, but I do believe that he is showing us things because things are getting tougher and tougher.

00:57:40.080 And it's amazing how the Shroud technology is now, just now, catching up to be able to tell us things about it.

00:57:49.560 So Pope Francis called that an icon instead of a relic.

00:57:55.920 What is the difference, and does that matter?

00:57:59.620 Well, yeah, I think it does matter.

00:58:01.420 An icon is an image that doesn't claim that it's actually connected to the—I mean, for the Tilma.

00:58:14.960 To say it's a relic of the Blessed Virgin Mary says this is of her.

00:58:21.120 It's not just an image of her.

00:58:22.900 Back with more, and hopefully the Pope, the new Pope, in just a minute.

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01:00:59.400 Here we go.

01:01:00.680 The doors are opening.

01:01:05.240 Let's see.

01:01:06.080 His new name should be popping up.

01:01:08.480 Do we have anything on a name yet?

01:01:11.640 They haven't announced his name or his new name.

01:01:14.580 I would like to take what he's going to say, if possible.

01:01:20.240 Now the name of the new pope announced to the world from the balcony.

01:01:23.280 Wait, this is Dominic Mamberti, the cardinal pro-proto-deacon?

01:01:52.340 So this is not the pope.

01:01:54.780 He's announcing.

01:01:57.040 He's announcing we have a new pope.

01:02:04.060 Leo XIV, I think he said.

01:02:19.360 Do you know anything about Leo XIII?

01:02:22.780 Yeah, he was good.

01:02:24.080 Was he?

01:02:25.220 Yeah.

01:02:25.640 He's the one that started what is called the Elite Nine Prayers after that.

01:02:30.520 The doctor is the Robert Francis Prevost.

01:02:31.840 The Michael Prevost.

01:02:32.800 Who's taken the name of Leo XIV.

01:02:35.320 Okay.

01:02:35.660 Leo XIV.

01:02:36.660 What is his first?

01:02:37.460 What is the name, please?

01:02:38.820 Cardinal Prevost is an American.

01:02:41.620 And he spent most of his years in Latin America and in Peru.

01:02:46.980 What's his name?

01:02:48.200 What was his name again real quick?

01:02:50.300 Robert Francis Prevost?

01:02:52.660 An American.

01:02:54.420 An American.

01:02:55.620 An American.

01:02:56.660 I think it's a historic moment.

01:02:58.960 Do you know who that is?

01:03:00.620 Prevost.

01:03:01.140 Let me see if I have him in.

01:03:02.100 Yeah, if it's Prevost, he was head of the Congregation for Bishops.

01:03:06.520 So tell me about him.

01:03:07.800 What do you know about him?

01:03:09.640 Not much.

01:03:10.440 He's a relatively new cardinal.

01:03:14.520 It's not good that he's an American. 1.00

01:03:16.800 Robert Prevost.

01:03:17.760 Here we have.

01:03:18.400 Age 69, Chicago-born.

01:03:21.000 Two years ago, Pope Francis chose him to replace Mark Ouellette as prefect of the Vatican's bishops,

01:03:28.420 handling him the task of selecting the next generation of bishops.

01:03:32.100 He worked many years as a missionary in Peru.

01:03:34.600 He is not just considered American, but someone who headed the Commission for Latin America,

01:03:40.360 seen as a reformer, but might be viewed too young for his papacy, blah, blah, blah.

01:03:46.200 He was also the archbishop in Peru.

01:03:49.960 Also clouded by allegations of covering up sexual abuse claims, which were denied by his diocese.

01:03:57.440 What do you know, good guy, bad guy?

01:04:01.220 Any clue?

01:04:02.720 We don't have any clue on which direction he leans, except he was selected two years ago by Francis.

01:04:08.980 And he was, as head of the congregation for bishops, frankly, in my opinion, he made some really bad choices there.

01:04:19.720 I mean, of course it was Pope Francis, but he was involved in naming bishops that I find very troubling.

01:04:28.200 So, we'll have to keep praying.

01:04:32.600 Okay.

01:04:33.320 Well, there you have it, Pope Leo XIV.

01:04:37.480 That's an interesting name, Leo XIV.

01:04:40.100 Why?

01:04:40.420 Well, because of the connection of the predecessor, Leo XIII, he had visions of evil, taking the church,

01:04:53.380 and the St. Michael prayer, the St. Michael, the archangel prayer, came from Leo XIII.

01:04:59.700 He was in the mid to probably something like 1870-ish, around there, was when he was Pope.

01:05:10.420 Good Pope?

01:05:11.760 Yeah, he was good.

01:05:13.860 And he was strong in a lot of ways.

01:05:18.840 I don't, I'm no scholar of Leo XIII, but definitely some good signals there.

01:05:25.260 So, it's very interesting to choose that name.

01:05:29.380 And, you know, I'm sure they'll ask him why he chose that name.

01:05:32.480 But Leo XIV, there's significance there.

01:05:38.260 So.

01:05:38.820 Okay.

01:05:39.940 Bishop, thank you so much for sharing this moment with me.

01:05:43.500 Well, it's definitely a memorable chance to talk with you.

01:05:48.240 Because in the midst of all this, I mean, you started off by saying white smoke.

01:05:52.160 I know.

01:05:52.440 For me, as a Catholic kid, I mean, my heart's been in my throat the whole time.

01:05:56.900 I know.

01:05:57.520 I know.

01:05:58.080 I know.

01:05:58.660 Now that we know who it is, an America Pope.

01:06:01.240 I mean, I really never predicted that because, you know, America is so vilified in so many

01:06:07.440 countries.

01:06:07.960 Yeah.

01:06:08.660 I think the South America connection probably assisted him in that part of it.

01:06:13.820 Yeah.

01:06:14.280 Well, maybe they got the idea from the meme from Trump.

01:06:18.520 Yeah.

01:06:22.160 Bishop, thank you so much.

01:06:24.020 God bless you.

01:06:24.760 Thank you.

01:06:25.560 Thank you.

01:06:26.040 There it is.

01:06:26.660 The new Pope, Pope Leo XIV.

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The Glenn Beck Program - May 10, 2025

Ep 256 ｜ Is the New American Pope Catholic？｜ Bishop Strickland ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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The Glenn Beck Program - May 10, 2025

Ep 256 ｜ Is the New American Pope Catholic？ ｜ Bishop Strickland ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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Ep 256 ｜ Is the New American Pope Catholic？｜ Bishop Strickland ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast