The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 260 ｜ The Real Reason We're Obsessed with Epstein ｜ Adam Curry

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00:01:19.120 My guest today gets it, and that is why he's back for his third appearance on the podcast.

00:01:25.700 I don't know if we've had anybody on for three appearances.

00:01:29.220 He is a media veteran.

00:01:31.160 He's a pro.

00:01:31.940 He knows how to read crazy times to get to the truth behind the spin of the mainstream media narratives.

00:01:37.480 He is a media trailblazer.

00:01:39.740 He was a former MTV VJ, digital entrepreneur.

00:01:42.660 He is called the podfather for his role in creating the very first podcast 20 years ago.

00:01:50.260 He's never been afraid to dive deep into the chaos of our world, which he does every week as a co-host of the No Agenda podcast.

00:01:58.460 He has called himself now not a conspiracy theorist, a conspiracy therapist.

00:02:03.980 And I think we might be able to benefit from some of that therapy right now.

00:02:07.460 It's why I'm sitting down with the one and only my friend Adam Curry.

00:02:12.660 Well, welcome back.

00:02:26.800 Thank you so much.

00:02:27.620 Glad to have you here.

00:02:28.520 It's great to be here.

00:02:29.260 There's so much going on in the world.

00:02:31.000 I know.

00:02:31.380 So where do you want to start?

00:02:32.660 You know, wherever you want to.

00:02:33.640 But you're the guy, you know, you're the guy that I can talk to from a godly perspective, you know, because I think we are spiritually broken right now.

00:02:42.840 There is so much going on.

00:02:45.100 We're just, you know, everyone's losing their ever-loving mind right now.

00:02:49.240 I know.

00:02:49.360 So you, last time you were here, you were, you had just told me that you had converted and you were afraid to talk to Joe Rogan.

00:02:56.860 Yeah, yeah.

00:02:57.700 It turned out pretty good, actually.

00:02:59.660 It's amazing how many Christians come out of the woodworks when you say, hey, I'm a Jesus freak.

00:03:03.920 I'm here.

00:03:05.320 It's really been just, I mean, I'm on fire.

00:03:08.320 There is so much happening.

00:03:09.500 Where are you in your journey?

00:03:10.680 Uh, wow.

00:03:13.100 Uh, I'm, I'm doing what God is telling me to do is where I'm in the journey.

00:03:17.140 You know, God's moving me to do things to, you know, spread the good news of the gospel.

00:03:22.360 Um, it's interesting because no agenda is, you know, it's a show where we deconstruct media.

00:03:27.420 So, um, but I'm, I'm bringing it in, you know, bringing in my, my biblical perspective.

00:03:32.900 There's a biblical worldview that we can take on stuff.

00:03:35.420 It's weird because people will say you, you can't bring politics into it or you can't bring God into politics.

00:03:40.600 Or got into this.

00:03:41.860 No, but it's, it's who I am.

00:03:44.960 Thank you.

00:03:45.580 It is the, it's the worldview I have.

00:03:48.040 I, there's no way to cut it out.

00:03:50.380 Yeah.

00:03:50.640 You know what I mean?

00:03:51.080 Because it's all encompassing.

00:03:52.500 Well, we've also been hoaxed into this so-called separation clause, which is like, okay, show me that in the constitution.

00:03:59.400 It's like, yes.

00:04:00.760 The first amendment is so that the government cannot tell you what religion or faith you can, you can believe.

00:04:07.260 Basically, it's what you can believe in your own mind.

00:04:09.300 It was, it was to say that because there were, there were colonies at the time where you had to be a certain religion or you couldn't serve in the government.

00:04:18.620 Right.

00:04:18.820 And so that was, it was like, no.

00:04:20.880 Exactly.

00:04:21.420 You can be any religion.

00:04:22.720 Yes.

00:04:23.140 No.

00:04:23.460 And so that has been, you know, I think is, you know, from a letter that Jefferson wrote.

00:04:26.700 Yeah.

00:04:26.860 That's been.

00:04:27.540 Notes on Virginia.

00:04:28.360 Yes.

00:04:28.620 Been contorted into, well, we have a separation clause and you can't have God in government.

00:04:32.300 And, well, you know, I've read my founder's Bible.

00:04:35.000 You know, David Barton, I'm sure.

00:04:36.580 Yeah.

00:04:36.860 The work they did on that is just amazing.

00:04:38.740 Amazing.

00:04:39.220 And you read all of our presidents.

00:04:41.400 All of them were men of God.

00:04:42.980 The Senate was a church.

00:04:44.600 I know.

00:04:44.920 I know.

00:04:46.220 On Sundays, like the Senate turned into a church.

00:04:48.280 Under Jefferson.

00:04:49.140 Exactly.

00:04:49.680 Under Jefferson.

00:04:50.380 Under Jefferson, of all people.

00:04:51.300 Yeah.

00:04:51.540 I know.

00:04:52.100 So it's like, you know, that, I think that's really what made America great.

00:04:59.140 And, of course, we lost our way.

00:05:01.200 Like, you know, all countries, everybody loses their way.

00:05:05.040 And I'm just speaking as a new Christian.

00:05:06.600 I'm looking back and going, maybe it was a little bit better back then.

00:05:09.980 I mean, of course, issues.

00:05:11.320 We had problems.

00:05:11.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:05:12.340 But here we are 249 years later.

00:05:14.920 I'm like, you know, we might want to investigate this a little more.

00:05:18.240 It's weird because I'm, I am a little long in the tooth, if you will.

00:05:28.120 It feels like at times with my faith.

00:05:30.820 And I'm still discovering new things.

00:05:35.480 Like, I'm really at this place now where it's hard.

00:05:39.560 I talk about politics all the time.

00:05:41.000 I talk about, and you look at it and you're like, it's not this difficult.

00:05:45.300 Yeah.

00:05:45.600 Bad guys should go to jail.

00:05:47.600 That's all it is, you know.

00:05:49.580 And I get so upset, like this Epstein thing.

00:05:52.480 I got so upset.

00:05:53.500 And I had to take a minute and go, you know what?

00:05:58.280 I don't own the outcome.

00:05:59.780 I saw your show the other night where you basically sent your guests home and you, you know,

00:06:04.460 you get kind of your perspective on it.

00:06:06.320 Yeah.

00:06:06.960 But before you get there, it was, I had to get to a place to where I'm like, and this

00:06:12.920 is so important.

00:06:13.800 Otherwise, we're going to get more and more mad at everything.

00:06:17.860 I don't own the outcome.

00:06:19.540 It's his will.

00:06:20.620 Whatever good or bad, it will work to our good.

00:06:24.440 I mean, look at the 2020 election.

00:06:26.140 Yes.

00:06:26.260 And we all thought that we're doomed.

00:06:27.860 And we wouldn't have Donald Trump the way he is today back in 2020.

00:06:32.480 And so we have to just look at things and go, well, it's not, I'm fascinated to see how

00:06:39.380 this is going to work out.

00:06:40.420 But I can only do what I do and the rest, I don't own it.

00:06:44.540 It's not my problem.

00:06:45.760 Right.

00:06:46.600 That, unfortunately, is not how media works anymore.

00:06:49.880 I don't know if it ever did.

00:06:51.280 Well, I mean, audience capture is a big thing, particularly for podcasts.

00:06:56.680 And, you know, when you get people, now I've had people yelling at me for 17 and a half

00:07:01.980 years about, you're wrong.

00:07:03.480 You know, I'm never going to, never going to listen.

00:07:05.760 I'm unsubscribing.

00:07:06.800 I'm not going to donate.

00:07:07.920 Yeah.

00:07:08.080 Okay.

00:07:08.900 This is why we have a donation model.

00:07:10.780 So there's other people who will.

00:07:11.860 Um, but we're at a point now where we are collectively as a country, but as a world, we are traumatized

00:07:19.600 still from COVID.

00:07:20.580 And I think that there's anything we can do to, to get revenge on anything.

00:07:25.980 And everybody is just, it's like a human thing, like mad.

00:07:30.020 And I think it comes from COVID, whether you were locked down, whether you were forced to

00:07:35.740 take vaccine, whether you, your family disagreed with you on these things.

00:07:40.720 I think there's tremendous trauma that is still deep inside of us.

00:07:45.520 And Epstein has become an issue, which is like this perfect confluence.

00:07:50.220 It really started, um, October 7th, two years ago.

00:07:54.160 Um, you had the left going, you know, free, free Palestine with no historical context.

00:08:00.180 I mean, this goes back to Isaac and Ishmael.

00:08:02.720 I mean, you even say that people's eyes roll up.

00:08:05.580 I know.

00:08:06.560 1948, 1967.

00:08:08.000 Well, this has been going on for a little bit longer than that.

00:08:11.640 Um, so, and then of course, AIPAC, um, I've actually studied AIPAC and, you know, it's

00:08:18.460 like, well, you know, all, everyone in Congress and the Senate, they're, you know, they're

00:08:22.400 hijacked and they're under control of AIPAC because they have the money.

00:08:25.940 It's true.

00:08:26.700 But if you look at AIPAC's money, they get it from the American Israeli education fund.

00:08:33.040 And if you look at who's putting money into that, it's Raytheon, it's Boeing, it's military

00:08:38.060 industrial complex.

00:08:39.240 This is what Eisenhower warned us for.

00:08:41.440 He didn't warn us for the, you know, the Zionist Israeli Jew industrial complex.

00:08:46.640 He warned us for the military industrial complex.

00:08:49.240 So if you got war somewhere, look at who really benefits from that.

00:08:53.640 Yeah.

00:08:54.060 And, but this.

00:08:55.180 That's fascinating.

00:08:56.220 I mean, you just have to look at, you can look at the form 990s and see how it works and

00:09:00.880 where it comes from.

00:09:01.660 So I'm like, well, yes, but people have been hijacked by the military industrial complex

00:09:06.900 since before I was born.

00:09:08.280 And, and, you know, so it's turned into, and this is the enemy at work, Glenn.

00:09:13.540 This to me, it's so obvious.

00:09:14.780 So just divide everybody, just ruin all relationships.

00:09:18.700 If you go back to 1974, it was the, the Senator from Seattle, Senator Boeing, I think they called

00:09:24.840 him, you know, there was a decision made there right after, you know, Vietnam war was ending.

00:09:29.400 Like we can't get, we can't get our young men and women to fight anymore.

00:09:33.100 So we might as well, you know, put up an aircraft carrier.

00:09:35.920 That's the famous quote that was used at the time.

00:09:38.280 In the Middle East.

00:09:39.360 And we'll use that as our launching pad.

00:09:41.300 And if, you know, we get into a tussle, we'll have somebody fight who already hate me.

00:09:44.600 They already hate each other down there.

00:09:46.080 And this was a setup that of course, you know, I think all war is evil.

00:09:51.300 All of this is bad, but people are convinced that Israel controls America.

00:09:58.180 Israel controls Donald Trump.

00:09:59.940 Israel controls everything.

00:10:01.460 They're really bad at controlling things.

00:10:02.860 They're not doing a great PR job.

00:10:04.660 That's for sure.

00:10:05.520 And they all own the media and they're screwing that up.

00:10:08.280 They're bad at it if they do control it.

00:10:11.960 Look at the facts of it.

00:10:13.160 So, but that confluence kind of all came together.

00:10:18.060 And, you know, we're so bad at processing too much information.

00:10:22.160 You know, we're just, we're not good at it.

00:10:23.820 I, you know, social media, it's none of that is really good for our brains.

00:10:26.860 And, and so people get so riled up about this that we lose.

00:10:34.660 And so with Epstein, obviously, you know, this was a part of the narrative.

00:10:38.620 I was a part of this narrative.

00:10:40.100 Like, you know, Epstein didn't kill himself.

00:10:42.040 You know, we had songs.

00:10:43.000 It was funny.

00:10:43.540 We were joking around on and on and on.

00:10:45.720 If you look at the history of Ghislaine Maxwell and her dad.

00:10:49.400 But this, of course, is much bigger than what I think is intelligence communities have used sex as a leverage weapon forever.

00:11:01.060 And so it's not just Mossad.

00:11:02.860 Exactly.

00:11:03.700 It's CIA.

00:11:04.240 It's FBI.

00:11:04.820 I know.

00:11:04.840 It's everybody.

00:11:05.300 We did exactly what he's, he was accused of doing with the Germans.

00:11:11.960 And he might have been doing it.

00:11:12.620 But there you go.

00:11:13.760 Exactly.

00:11:14.480 Exactly.

00:11:15.020 I mean, we have.

00:11:15.520 It's not new.

00:11:16.040 Some of the biggest spy stories.

00:11:17.540 Yes.

00:11:17.660 Mata Hari.

00:11:18.380 I mean, you can go on and on and on.

00:11:19.500 Right.

00:11:19.660 So this is, this is not new.

00:11:22.880 But you, oh, this confluence of, I don't want my money committing genocide.

00:11:27.920 I don't want, you know, my people controlled by Israel or by Mossad.

00:11:31.840 And everyone's blackmailed.

00:11:33.080 And Trump is blackmailed.

00:11:34.680 You know, at a certain point, it's just like you're spinning, you're spinning out of control.

00:11:38.500 And we can't just sit down and say, okay, hold on a second.

00:11:42.060 By the way, justice will be served.

00:11:45.180 God's going to serve justice where it needs to be served.

00:11:48.000 And we, and maybe we need to break more.

00:11:49.880 I'm not sure where we're at right now in God's eyes.

00:11:52.460 But all of this put together, whereas two years ago, you couldn't even say, oh, the Jews run the media.

00:12:04.480 You know, now it's like, if you don't say that, you're excoriated.

00:12:08.040 If you don't, if you don't explicitly denounce a faith or a country or whatever, then you're a Zionist shill.

00:12:17.560 You're, you know, how many shekels did you get this week, Curry?

00:12:20.200 And it's insane.

00:12:22.520 Insane.

00:12:22.760 It's really insane.

00:12:23.800 And, and there was a, there was a lead up to this.

00:12:26.340 Kanye, you know, he was a part of that.

00:12:28.840 And I'm, and I don't know if this is where this comes from.

00:12:31.780 I don't think this is like some huge op.

00:12:33.840 I think a lot of people are jumping, jumping in on it.

00:12:37.260 But now when you see, you know, the podcast, of course, podcast is a, you know, it's a big deal, as you know.

00:12:44.400 You know, this thing has kind of worked.

00:12:45.600 And I think there's a fear, a definite fear of, of losing your audience because you hear it.

00:12:54.440 When you say something that isn't exactly what everybody wants to hear, boom, they're coming out.

00:13:00.840 They're, they're telling you, you suck, you're no good.

00:13:02.960 You're never going to be able to hit that standard.

00:13:05.780 No.

00:13:05.940 You have to be who you are or, or.

00:13:09.740 Thank you.

00:13:10.380 You're going to, I mean, nobody wants to watch somebody who's trying to please everybody.

00:13:15.460 Nobody wants to see that.

00:13:16.580 We're starving for something, especially with AI coming, starving for something that's authentic.

00:13:22.740 You know what I mean?

00:13:23.380 And it used to be, at least to me, it used to be something kind of heroic that that person is standing up against the time.

00:13:33.900 Now it's just.

00:13:34.780 Now you're a shill.

00:13:35.680 Yeah.

00:13:35.980 You're a Zionist shill.

00:13:36.980 But now you have to do it.

00:13:39.220 You have to do it.

00:13:40.380 Because there's, there's no chance of having anything left in the end if you've lost who you are.

00:13:49.960 Well, I agree.

00:13:50.680 And, and, but we, we, we went through this with COVID.

00:13:53.940 We, you know, we had, okay, hold on a second.

00:13:57.020 There's something going on here.

00:13:58.300 There's all kinds of issues at play.

00:14:00.120 There was a huge amount of pushback.

00:14:01.960 When, when Russia and Ukraine, when the conflagration, I'm sorry, known as full-scale invasion, when that happened, there were Ukraine flags all over Texas.

00:14:14.520 And I'm like, well, we kind of got to look at the history of this, what happened in 2014.

00:14:18.100 And you had a CIA director there.

00:14:20.620 And, you know, this was a clear push that was taking place.

00:14:23.180 And then, and there was a lot of pushback on this.

00:14:25.360 This is the biggest one I've witnessed.

00:14:27.160 And quite honestly, for such a time as this, I'm glad I'm here.

00:14:30.360 I'm, I'm glad we're doing it.

00:14:32.140 Um, because people need to get some perspective.

00:14:34.860 At the same time, do you know Victor Marks?

00:14:37.780 Have you ever met Victor Marks?

00:14:39.160 He has a, um, all things possible minister.

00:14:40.980 He's an ex-special forces type, like a door kicker.

00:14:43.520 And he now goes and saves children and women who have been trafficked and are being held hostage.

00:14:48.800 How do I not know him?

00:14:49.900 I must know him.

00:14:50.580 You would love talking to him.

00:14:51.880 He's a great guy.

00:14:52.940 Um, and, uh, and he says, you know, there's still 40,000 images and videos a day being

00:14:59.080 uploaded to the internet in America alone of child pornography.

00:15:03.620 And so we're losing complete sight of the brokenness that really is taking place.

00:15:08.400 And sadly, America seems to be number one on the list, you know, and so we can't lose

00:15:14.680 sight of that and only focus on elites who by definition, I think you've, you've

00:15:20.580 you've been around very wealthy people, um, powerful people.

00:15:25.000 Sometimes they get bored and they fall into these crazy, crazy habits.

00:15:29.440 It's like Hollywood, you know, no different from that really.

00:15:32.200 Um, but meanwhile, there is a brokenness that, that we have created in, in our country in

00:15:40.480 particular, going all the way back to Shirley Temple, you know, the war babies, you got a

00:15:45.660 three-year-old in a bra sexualized and Hollywood thought it was great.

00:15:49.260 And it was a big joke and just turn on the TV, you know, turn it on.

00:15:52.800 It's everyone's it's everything is sexualized and that has to take a toll.

00:15:58.600 And I think we're getting there right now.

00:16:00.300 I think that's really porn addiction is an all time high.

00:16:04.220 I mean, and that's bad, you know, it, that's a real thing.

00:16:08.900 So, so how do we, you know, the good news is that the younger generation is searching

00:16:15.540 for God, like crazy in the infamous words of Lonnie Frisbee.

00:16:19.340 We got a whole generation just searching for God, man.

00:16:22.960 Yes, exactly.

00:16:24.420 I think we're in the middle of a revival.

00:16:26.460 We are way overdue for another awakening.

00:16:28.920 You know, it's like a hundred years over.

00:16:30.720 Yeah, I know.

00:16:31.480 Um, and I am delighted to see that, but we've got to shepherd this generation.

00:16:36.660 We've got to give them outlets.

00:16:38.100 We've got to give them, we have to give them a voice in the media.

00:16:41.220 You know, that's really important.

00:16:43.240 You know, where all the, the new young broadcasters coming up on faith-based radio, which is broken

00:16:48.420 by itself.

00:16:49.300 You know, so there's a lot of, a lot of opportunity here, but if we're all wrapped up and, you

00:16:54.760 know, all freaking out about stuff.

00:16:56.380 That's what you're doing.

00:16:56.400 What do you call it, the Godcast?

00:16:57.780 Godcaster.

00:16:58.360 Yeah.

00:16:58.660 Thank you.

00:16:59.880 So I told you God was moving through me and what initially started, we just released

00:17:04.940 our app on Android and Apple.

00:17:06.500 It's free for people to use.

00:17:07.900 And what you get in it is it's a new way of listening to radio and on demand.

00:17:12.720 So live streams and on demand, which really helps.

00:17:16.580 I like faith-based radio stations, A, because I'm interested in the message and B, they mostly

00:17:21.300 live on a donation model and things changed in the app stores.

00:17:24.600 Now you can have a donate button.

00:17:26.160 So now you can donate directly to the programming or to the radio station.

00:17:29.840 But as we were doing this, we realized that churches have become content factories and

00:17:36.240 they now are, and they're becoming radio stations.

00:17:39.380 And so they're, and what do we miss?

00:17:41.840 All stations, we have no local media anymore.

00:17:45.300 So now you can have your, have your radio station, but then also put in the pastor's podcast

00:17:50.920 or your local city council or someone.

00:17:53.240 We have guys all over in Fredericksburg, where I live, 11,000 people.

00:17:57.820 We got Matt Long.

00:17:58.800 He does a daily show and it's all about the hill country and about Fredericksburg.

00:18:02.840 And so we really have developed this backend platform for radio state, faith-based radio

00:18:08.200 stations and for ministry so that they can, you know, you put in the podcast, you click,

00:18:13.460 click a button.

00:18:14.220 Now it's a live stream.

00:18:15.480 You know, it's exciting to get that serendipity again of I'm turning on the radio and flipping

00:18:20.420 through something.

00:18:21.120 Oh, I like this show.

00:18:22.920 Click.

00:18:23.240 I can go back to the podcast, listen to it.

00:18:25.660 So that's, that's what Godcaster is.

00:18:27.660 And, and that I, Glenn, I had no intention on starting a company or doing anything like

00:18:32.540 that.

00:18:32.800 And God brought me partners and he said, here you go.

00:18:35.400 You got to do this.

00:18:36.480 And so I want the, the youth group at our church to do podcasts, you know, come on.

00:18:42.060 And there's, there's something cool for a young person instead of doing your Instagram

00:18:48.020 video or your Tik TOK and getting some likes, people have forgotten that you can get a lot

00:18:53.680 of, you can do a lot for your community.

00:18:56.600 And it's something different when the kids at school say, Hey, you know, I saw you talking

00:19:00.180 about that, about our, our basketball game.

00:19:02.520 And I love that.

00:19:04.000 And that podcast that's, we need to get back to that.

00:19:07.060 There is nothing.

00:19:08.380 There's nothing left on a local level.

00:19:10.540 So I want radio stations to be able to bring back local into their programming without

00:19:16.100 the overhead of the towers and transmitters.

00:19:19.040 You know, this better than I do.

00:19:21.300 But man, ministries and churches, I'm so excited about that.

00:19:24.880 You know, we have Hello Fred, which is our, I run the little local station and you got Pastor

00:19:29.560 Jimmy, you know, he's doing his, he's doing his daily devotional and we've syndicated that

00:19:33.380 out to a station in Franklin, Tennessee.

00:19:36.720 So that's kind of a, like a exchange marketplace.

00:19:39.320 So yeah, so the Godcaster app is, is just our, our way of saying, here's what we're doing.

00:19:44.560 And, you know, every radio station can put it in their own app and everything.

00:19:48.600 It's amazing to me because it's, it's what's, I think it's what people miss.

00:19:54.860 You know, we go to so much work, you know, with the floods here in Texas, hurricanes, 20

00:19:59.840 minutes down the road from me.

00:20:01.240 Wow.

00:20:01.760 Yeah.

00:20:02.440 And what you, what the mainstream media and nothing else gives you is when you're on the

00:20:08.980 ground at one of those things, you see heroism, you see local communities just come together

00:20:17.600 in ways that you've never seen before.

00:20:19.460 And it's inspiring to see it.

00:20:22.120 And nobody's covering that.

00:20:23.820 Nobody's covering that.

00:20:24.840 I liken it to, well, Hello Fred is.

00:20:27.220 Yeah.

00:20:27.640 I liken it to the Grand Canyon.

00:20:30.120 You know, if you, if you haven't been there, you don't understand the vastness of it.

00:20:34.600 You don't understand how, how high the piles of junk are.

00:20:39.000 You, you're not seeing the, the cadaver dogs.

00:20:41.920 You're not seeing men of God jumping in, grabbing their heavy machinery, going down, you know,

00:20:51.980 just digging people out.

00:20:54.540 And so we have a lot of churches in our area.

00:20:57.620 And so, man, our churches are staging areas for food.

00:21:01.400 We've got, uh, I call her J Sixer Jenny.

00:21:04.260 She has a, she was a, a pardoned J Sixer.

00:21:07.060 Um, she has a, uh, a bed and breakfast half moon in she's housing 300 volunteers.

00:21:13.100 She says, I just need water and socks.

00:21:15.300 I mean, and I remember Western North Carolina.

00:21:19.380 And of course we have a lot of listeners and we call them producers who live there.

00:21:23.420 So I, I got much more information than most would from mainstream media.

00:21:27.680 And all I, all I could do was like, here's my credit card, fill up the helicopters, just

00:21:31.640 fill them up, fill them up, fill them up.

00:21:33.500 And they're still rebuilding.

00:21:34.560 And that story is long gone.

00:21:36.420 You know, the people are still rebuilding their businesses, their factories.

00:21:39.700 Um, and, and I tell you, man, when I, what I saw was going on is still going on.

00:21:44.640 That's America.

00:21:45.780 That to me is America.

00:21:47.200 In America, we blame the government for not doing enough.

00:21:51.140 In Europe, people blame the government for not doing anything.

00:21:54.900 You know, they don't, they don't help each other here.

00:21:57.440 We help each other.

00:21:58.140 There was a guy who came in from the Netherlands.

00:22:00.260 He has a nonprofit called, um, disaster, disaster tech lab.

00:22:05.580 And he literally came in into, into comfort center point, uh, hunt and, uh, and put down

00:22:13.080 a wifi mesh network so everybody can communicate.

00:22:15.720 He leaves it.

00:22:17.020 He leaves all the stuff there, you know, so it's all sponsored.

00:22:20.100 Uh, you know, the, the gear is sponsored that that's the stuff that really like, okay,

00:22:25.480 here, this is what we are.

00:22:27.140 This is who we are.

00:22:28.140 This is what we do.

00:22:29.420 And, you know, I didn't even know if the federal government was all that helpful in this case.

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00:23:57.100 It's what you're describing, though, is an actual return to American principles.

00:24:03.380 Amen.

00:24:04.160 Yes.

00:24:04.600 We never, I mean, one of my favorite stories, I think it was in 29, Hoover, I think it was,

00:24:10.040 sent some...

00:24:11.360 It's been a while, Glenn, let me think.

00:24:12.440 I know, I know.

00:24:13.920 I don't remember which president it was, but there was a flood here in Texas, a big one.

00:24:18.640 And the federal government decided they were going to help out.

00:24:25.640 And so they sent some trucks down.

00:24:28.940 And the people in Texas met them in the street with their shotguns and said,

00:24:33.640 turn your trucks around.

00:24:35.200 We don't need you.

00:24:36.080 We don't want you here.

00:24:36.920 They went back and Congress passed some bill to raise X number of dollars that they sent.

00:24:45.840 In the meantime, the country and Texas raised 15, 20 times that amount.

00:24:52.240 They didn't need it.

00:24:53.420 Now, we wait for the government to come in.

00:24:56.920 In many cases, Texas, I think, is maybe a little bit different.

00:24:59.980 Texas and Florida.

00:25:00.720 Florida, too.

00:25:03.800 You know, what people don't realize, and this is another kind of issue that I like bringing to the table.

00:25:12.060 We're involved.

00:25:13.200 We're looking down.

00:25:13.960 We're looking at our phones, right?

00:25:15.280 And I think, I can't remember, it's a famous quote, like, a map is not terrain.

00:25:19.960 You know, so you look at a weather map and you see colors.

00:25:22.520 And that doesn't really mean, you know, what's going on with the weather.

00:25:24.900 And so people are mad that we didn't have the warning system, the sirens.

00:25:31.120 This area has flooded since the 1860s.

00:25:34.500 I mean, 1987 was another really bad one.

00:25:37.380 That's not that long ago.

00:25:39.180 I mean, I remember 1987.

00:25:41.580 And the way, I mean, I just, I imagine Paul Ingalls on Little House on the Prairie looking up and going,

00:25:48.080 yeah, it's sticking around, doesn't look too good.

00:25:49.780 We should get to higher ground.

00:25:51.040 You know, where's that?

00:25:52.000 You know, we're all waiting for the technology to alert us, to warn us.

00:25:55.460 I mean, how come my phone didn't tell me?

00:25:57.460 We've lost that ability to just look up and understand our surroundings and say, you know,

00:26:02.680 listen to the old timers like, yeah, this could get pretty bad.

00:26:05.540 So can I ask you, because we're about to enter now truly the AI age.

00:26:10.580 It's going to make that so much worse.

00:26:13.160 It could make it better.

00:26:15.060 I think for many, it will make it so much worse.

00:26:17.580 I just, I don't know where's the answer.

00:26:19.940 I, I, there's no thinking.

00:26:22.100 And we've gone from Google giving you a thousand answers to now one answer.

00:26:27.680 And I, I look at this and think, who's going to know how to do anything, anything?

00:26:35.660 Well, there's, there's a couple of sides to this.

00:26:38.520 I've studied AI extensively.

00:26:42.580 I've done software projects for three months and stuff I could have done with a good developer

00:26:47.020 in three days.

00:26:48.500 You know, the vibe coding, it's, it's not all that great.

00:26:51.420 It makes all kinds of mistakes.

00:26:52.920 It's, it's decent at syntax.

00:26:54.960 I mean, I'm sure that if someone writes a piece and sends it to your desk and you look at it and

00:26:59.760 say, that's AI, don't ever send that to me again, because you can see it, you know,

00:27:03.180 you can see what's going on.

00:27:06.080 Machine learning is a real thing.

00:27:07.940 I mean, and this is all branding and marketing.

00:27:09.900 Machine learning is just, it, it, it works.

00:27:12.560 You know, you can teach machines to learn and make decisions.

00:27:14.740 You can sift through databases, but we've, and really open AI did this with chat GPT.

00:27:21.160 They, they introduced a parlor trick, which goes back to 1966, Joseph Weisenbaum, I think

00:27:27.540 it was, the Eliza effect.

00:27:29.420 Do you remember the, you ever heard of the Eliza effect?

00:27:31.460 No.

00:27:31.880 So I'm assuming it's from my fair lady.

00:27:34.120 Well, yeah, that's, that's where the name was.

00:27:35.980 Thank you.

00:27:36.940 Reference no one else got.

00:27:38.100 Um, and so he put together a very simple program was called doctor and it was basically

00:27:45.140 neuro-linguistic programming.

00:27:46.840 You know, it's, it's a very simple therapy.

00:27:48.980 Glenn, how are you feeling today?

00:27:50.040 I'm not feeling so good.

00:27:51.000 Why are you not feeling so good?

00:27:52.380 Well, I had a fight with my wife.

00:27:53.760 Why'd you ever fight with your wife?

00:27:55.240 Well, she was angry.

00:27:55.940 What was she angry about?

00:27:56.860 So the thing is talking with you and you're giving it information, but it's really not,

00:28:00.620 it's just taking key words and spitting them back at you.

00:28:03.680 When Weisenbaum did this, uh, he put together a program using this doctor back end and was

00:28:10.540 called Eliza and he put his secretary these days, we'd say assistant, um, in front of it.

00:28:16.920 And within five minutes, she said, could you please leave the room?

00:28:20.320 Because I, there's some very personal stuff I want to talk to this Eliza about.

00:28:25.840 This is a parlor trick.

00:28:27.940 And when, and I even saw it myself as I was coding this project and it would make mistakes

00:28:33.740 and I'd start typing in all the caps because it comes back to you.

00:28:36.740 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:28:37.280 I made this mistake.

00:28:38.100 We'll nail it this time.

00:28:39.200 And I'm typing, you did this wrong.

00:28:41.100 What's wrong with you?

00:28:41.820 I'm like, whoa, Curry, step back.

00:28:44.240 You've just fallen into the Eliza effect.

00:28:47.380 I mean, you can, if you really look for it, there are people losing their minds.

00:28:51.920 Oh yeah.

00:28:52.360 And it all ends up in either two places when they start talking to the Chad GPT all day long.

00:28:57.260 And I start this topic on no agenda.

00:28:59.340 And so people are sending me their experiences from bosses who completely, their whole life

00:29:04.440 is run by, by their AI or what they call their Chad GPT.

00:29:09.160 It either ends up in a weird sexual fantasy chat or I've solved all the problems of the

00:29:16.060 universe and there's a deity out there and it's not God, it's something else.

00:29:19.960 That's the two directions this thing goes in.

00:29:22.420 Both of them very problematic.

00:29:25.880 Both of them evil.

00:29:26.680 Really?

00:29:27.200 I hear you say there's two directions.

00:29:28.880 I like both of them.

00:29:29.740 Both of them are.

00:29:30.840 One direction.

00:29:31.160 Yeah.

00:29:31.500 And this is a darkness.

00:29:33.380 It's dark.

00:29:34.000 Yeah.

00:29:34.800 I don't believe most of the hype.

00:29:36.900 I mean, when I hear people talking, oh, we're going to quantum computing, we're like,

00:29:40.540 oh, there's the pivot.

00:29:41.580 Because the stuff doesn't actually work all that great.

00:29:44.380 It's great marketing.

00:29:45.360 It's fun to see Grok for reasoning, you know, but I really just, I haven't seen it do anything

00:29:54.440 incredibly amazing yet.

00:29:57.160 And everyone, you know, it's all the, it went from AI, we'll get AGI.

00:30:01.960 Well, that's generative, not general.

00:30:04.240 Okay.

00:30:04.520 We'll get to ASI, super AI.

00:30:06.080 Right now we have agentic AI, which is another marketing term set up by the Salesforce guys.

00:30:12.100 It's really not getting there.

00:30:13.940 And to me, it's just pouring more and more.

00:30:17.720 Silicon Valley always needs a story, Glenn.

00:30:19.920 They always need a story.

00:30:21.180 I think the only two groundbreaking technologies of the last 25 years are podcasting and Bitcoin.

00:30:27.900 That's it.

00:30:28.600 Everything else is just another, another version.

00:30:31.680 I think so.

00:30:32.260 Yeah.

00:30:32.780 Oh, Bitcoin is what an amazing invention that is.

00:30:36.680 And podcasting, I think, wasn't really an invention.

00:30:39.800 You know, again, all glory to God.

00:30:41.980 I was just there when it came to be.

00:30:45.140 The podfather is what people call you.

00:30:47.300 Yeah.

00:30:47.700 But that, those things are critically important.

00:30:51.080 And they're very simple.

00:30:51.960 They're very simple things.

00:30:53.100 No one owns it.

00:30:53.880 No one's in charge of it.

00:30:55.420 No one can control it.

00:30:57.080 And this AI thing, man, if Elon Musk can go in and say, well, we fixed Grok because it

00:31:03.040 was being anti-Semitic.

00:31:04.200 Well, then you can control it.

00:31:05.860 You can put anything in there.

00:31:07.180 And eventually it'll be like, vote Democrat or vote Republican or buy this.

00:31:12.180 You know, and where's the model?

00:31:13.700 Where's the money?

00:31:14.980 You know, is everyone going to pay what this really costs?

00:31:17.240 What these compute cycles really cost?

00:31:19.840 You know, Google, I mean, how do they make their advertising model work with this?

00:31:24.300 Is it going to be like idiocracy where if you don't pay, then you get ads the whole time?

00:31:30.660 I mean, so that's something we have to look inward and we have to reconnect with people.

00:31:38.640 You know, we became lonely because of our phones.

00:31:42.980 And now you're being given a friend to talk to.

00:31:47.380 So frightening.

00:31:48.900 That's frightening to me.

00:31:50.300 Because people are going to accept that.

00:31:54.340 A lot.

00:31:54.700 Not everybody.

00:31:55.320 But there's a friend you can talk to all day.

00:31:57.520 His name is Jesus, man.

00:31:58.860 That's who I talk to.

00:32:00.280 And I can hear him.

00:32:01.520 I can hear it coming back to me.

00:32:03.640 And wow, that feels a lot better.

00:32:06.000 Feels a lot better.

00:32:07.140 And, you know, doesn't make life easy.

00:32:08.740 Doesn't make life go better.

00:32:10.620 But I'm not, you know, that's who I go to.

00:32:13.180 And I hope we can convince young people.

00:32:15.100 You can't make somebody love somebody.

00:32:18.000 But if we can expose them to it, then we can be them.

00:32:20.400 Once you feel it, it's different.

00:32:22.300 You can say it a million times.

00:32:23.980 But until you feel it, explain to somebody what it feels like, what it felt like.

00:32:29.920 When you just say, I talk to him, he talks to me, I can hear him.

00:32:33.820 Somebody who's never experienced that, explain that.

00:32:36.800 Well, it's, okay, it may be different for everybody.

00:32:39.900 But as I was coming to my faith, I was reminded of, you know, I was trying to pray.

00:32:45.520 I'm like, okay, I'm going to pray.

00:32:46.560 And I go on my walk with my dog.

00:32:47.780 And I basically do the 12-step prayer, you know, like, forgive me, Lord, I'm a sinner.

00:32:52.480 You know, and you repeat it 12 times.

00:32:54.920 I'm like, okay, I can do that.

00:32:56.660 As I'm doing it, I was reminded of Stevie Wonder's song.

00:33:00.900 If you see, you know, just go have a talk with God.

00:33:03.660 I don't know if you remember the song.

00:33:05.000 It was like, if you feel life's not going well, whatever.

00:33:08.720 I can't sing.

00:33:09.640 Just go have, they'd always just go have a talk with God.

00:33:12.320 And I'm like, okay.

00:33:12.880 And so I would just start to speak out loud.

00:33:17.540 And I would, things would come into my head.

00:33:19.900 I'm like, okay.

00:33:20.840 And it would be comforting.

00:33:24.580 And I think we all have an inner voice.

00:33:28.180 And do you really know where that inner voice is coming from?

00:33:31.240 So for me, I hear that's God or the Holy Spirit or Jesus maybe directly speaking to me.

00:33:38.080 And when you pray for certain things, and especially for other people.

00:33:42.760 When I was praying for healing for other people and they got healed, that blew my mind.

00:33:47.760 I'm like, okay, wow.

00:33:50.360 You know, I wasn't praying for myself, but just like, can you heal this kid?

00:33:53.740 You know, Lord Jesus, just by touching the hem of your cloak, people were healed.

00:33:58.500 Can you heal this?

00:33:59.280 And then healing takes place.

00:34:01.180 And whether that's through the doctors, through medicine, I don't care.

00:34:04.680 It feels to me like something moved.

00:34:07.180 Something moved.

00:34:07.980 And in general, we as men of God, we need to fight for our country, for our culture, for our children, the way men do, on our knees in prayer.

00:34:18.540 I really feel that.

00:34:19.900 The spiritual, this is what I learned from Victor Marks.

00:34:22.000 The spiritual warfare, you know, it's Ephesians 6, you know, you've got, this warfare is going on constantly.

00:34:30.160 Movies portrayed as, you know, angel, demon.

00:34:32.720 That's real.

00:34:33.880 There's just all the time it's around us and they're battling us and the enemy hates us and is trying to get us to trip up and do things.

00:34:42.200 And unfortunately, you know, if you don't have some spiritual guidance, it's easy to fall prey to that.

00:34:48.660 But, so, are you optimistic?

00:34:55.320 Well, we've already won the battle, Glenn.

00:34:57.300 I know, I know, I know, I know.

00:34:59.360 I hate that.

00:34:59.980 We all know how it ends.

00:35:01.120 Yeah, but there's a few, there's a few pages before the end that are not fun.

00:35:06.040 Yeah, there's, I'm just getting into Revelation, like, I don't know about that.

00:35:12.080 I, yeah, I think I'm optimistic in general.

00:35:14.900 Can we save everybody?

00:35:16.220 No.

00:35:16.740 You know, would I like to?

00:35:17.980 Yeah.

00:35:18.220 Does the country survive?

00:35:21.100 We're still the best country in the world.

00:35:23.220 I've lived in many different countries and it's a mess.

00:35:26.860 I mean, you go to Europe, my daughter lives in Rotterdam, and I talk to the cab driver and I talk to people and they're like, I gotta tell you, man, I wish we had a guy like Trump.

00:35:36.980 I hear that too.

00:35:37.820 Go over there, talk to cab drivers.

00:35:39.660 That's who you want to talk to, right?

00:35:41.100 Yeah, they all say the same thing.

00:35:41.900 They'll tell you, like, I wish you had a guy like Trump.

00:35:43.540 And of course, we are good people in America and we don't like seeing anyone suffer.

00:35:48.500 So when you see ice, you know, kicking people out of the country, it hurts.

00:35:53.520 You know, I was like, but I see what happens when you don't do it.

00:35:57.560 You've got the Dutch now at the border, citizens at the border of Germany going and Belgium going, no, you are not coming in because the government won't stop it.

00:36:08.060 But the government is, in fact, encouraging it.

00:36:10.880 And it's real what's happening.

00:36:12.640 I mean, immigration is just a top thing in Europe.

00:36:15.000 How does Europe, because I'm watching this and thinking the governments are all doing the same thing.

00:36:22.600 Everybody.

00:36:23.220 Every government is doing the same thing in the West.

00:36:25.840 They're just piling people in.

00:36:27.920 These are not people that want to be part.

00:36:30.300 They don't want to be German.

00:36:31.580 They don't want to be Swedish.

00:36:33.180 They don't want to be American.

00:36:34.400 And for me, there's too many 20-something men by themselves that are coming in.

00:36:44.580 I know what Islamists, that's different than Islam.

00:36:47.860 I know what Islamists want.

00:36:50.540 And I see this and I feel like, boy, do we not know history, how this happens.

00:36:56.980 It feels like an invasion.

00:36:58.500 And yet, going over to other countries, just like here, people know.

00:37:05.120 And in Europe now, they are still where we were under Biden.

00:37:09.480 It's like, what is happening?

00:37:11.020 Why won't you do anything about it?

00:37:14.340 How does that genie of anger and angst and what will turn into a bad kind of nationalism, I think, in a way,

00:37:25.640 how do you put that genie back in the bottle when you don't have anybody on top saying, I hear you?

00:37:32.700 Well, it's inherently a socialist, communist, Marxist thing that's making this happen.

00:37:39.860 And just look at the signs everywhere.

00:37:42.400 I always look at any protest and look at the professionally printed signs.

00:37:45.960 I'm like, Socialist Workers' Party?

00:37:47.640 Okay.

00:37:48.040 You just have to look at what's going on.

00:37:49.820 Unfortunately, Europe always seems to end in the same place.

00:37:56.100 They end up with France and Germany getting into war.

00:37:59.500 And Macron and Mr. Peeper, as we call him, who's the new guy in Germany, looks like Mr. Peeper.

00:38:08.740 You know, they're building war economies.

00:38:11.120 They have no other economy.

00:38:12.420 They've completely shut off their main production from cheap energy, even closing the nuclear plants.

00:38:21.020 I mean, that is demonic.

00:38:23.880 It's demonic what's happening there.

00:38:25.720 So there will have to be some kind of—it wouldn't be the first time.

00:38:28.880 Europe has a lot of revolt behind it, a lot of war, a lot of things that have gone on.

00:38:35.040 And, yeah, you're right.

00:38:36.340 People don't study history.

00:38:38.000 We don't really look at it.

00:38:39.200 We're the same boat, in a way, you know, we have a revolt going on right now.

00:38:43.340 I hope it'll be—I hope it'll be to a good end.

00:38:46.020 But I think we have the most chance here.

00:38:49.060 I do, too.

00:38:49.660 What you saw on January 6th, although it was not at all what the media portrayed it to be

00:38:55.160 and what political parties portrayed it to be, that was inherently kind of American.

00:38:59.640 Like, hey, you know, we don't like this.

00:39:01.480 Now, the fact that they got suckered in and walked within the velvet ropes

00:39:05.160 and then were, you know, portrayed as you killed cops, didn't.

00:39:09.200 You know, that's the media and political factions.

00:39:13.980 But that is kind of inherently American to say, no, no, no, stop.

00:39:18.700 We don't want this anymore.

00:39:20.120 Right.

00:39:20.580 It's not to burn things down and destroy cities or whatever.

00:39:25.200 The worst parts of January 6th, what I was really happy about is on January 6th and 7th,

00:39:29.720 at least, before the media got in charge, everybody agreed.

00:39:34.580 Everybody.

00:39:34.980 Yeah.

00:39:35.460 It was one day we were all like, that's not us.

00:39:38.380 Yeah.

00:39:38.560 That's not what I want.

00:39:39.780 Yeah.

00:39:40.040 I might disagree with you about what's happening in Washington, but that's not us.

00:39:44.640 Right.

00:39:44.940 And that was at least positive until it, you know, somehow or another was turned into something else.

00:39:52.380 A punchline almost.

00:39:53.240 Yeah.

00:39:53.860 So I don't think we're going to solve it.

00:39:56.740 I think it would be good, as I said before.

00:39:59.040 You know, we need to, you know, just going to church is such a great experience.

00:40:06.980 You know, and we have a non-denominational church in Fredericksburg.

00:40:10.680 There's 11,000 people in the town.

00:40:12.600 A thousand go to Bridge Church, which is by all, you know, that's like a mega church, right?

00:40:17.920 But I look at it and I'm like, you know, everyone's broken.

00:40:21.620 Everyone admits it.

00:40:22.580 They all know it.

00:40:23.200 We've got international arms dealers, diamond smugglers.

00:40:25.740 You know, everyone's had some kind of issue, alcohol, porn, and we have men's breakfast and

00:40:30.980 we get together as a community.

00:40:32.600 And that's why we can also take action as a community when disaster strikes, when something

00:40:38.900 happens.

00:40:39.900 That it's not, to me, it's just not like sitting there and listen to the pastor, you know,

00:40:44.740 talk a bit.

00:40:45.740 No, it's like there's engagement.

00:40:47.660 We're speaking into culture.

00:40:49.020 And that's another thing.

00:40:50.140 The American church is afraid.

00:40:53.760 It's quiet.

00:40:54.920 It went quiet.

00:40:55.960 You know, there's, there was a great, I saw an article about the IRS now saying that

00:41:01.980 they would not go after any church that now speaks about politics.

00:41:09.060 You know, the Johnson Amendment was a big thing that was put in.

00:41:13.060 And most churches I know, they disregard it.

00:41:16.860 Like, come on, sue me.

00:41:17.720 Oh, you want to take away my non-profit status?

00:41:20.000 Fine.

00:41:20.680 We will be okay without that.

00:41:22.800 So not so much that they have to be speaking into politics, but speaking into culture.

00:41:27.100 How do you take this outside of the church walls?

00:41:29.420 How do we really go, how do we mentor young people?

00:41:32.660 Well, that's how, that's, I think the problem with our society is people with a biblical worldview

00:41:39.000 did not look outside and say, this is wrong and here's why it's wrong and here's what the

00:41:47.860 principle is that corrects that.

00:41:49.760 You know, we just, we said, I mean, it's, it's this nonsense over, you know, uh, fighting

00:41:55.120 over the 10 commandments, 10 commandments are the, that is the basis of civilization, right?

00:42:02.300 I mean, those are so incredibly basic that, you know, if you don't have a church that will,

00:42:12.640 if they're just living 2000 years ago and they're not speaking about today, but just 2000 years

00:42:20.380 ago, it doesn't help.

00:42:22.460 I, I want to learn my scriptures, but I also want to know how do they apply to today?

00:42:28.420 Right.

00:42:28.660 The problem, all of you say, all of us come in and we're broke.

00:42:31.540 I always look at church as a hospital.

00:42:33.820 I mean, I go there at the end of the week and you know, it's Sunday and I'm like, patch

00:42:37.700 me up, Lord.

00:42:38.460 Patch me up.

00:42:38.880 I won't make it another week.

00:42:41.120 Patch me up.

00:42:41.980 You know what I mean?

00:42:42.620 And we're all like that.

00:42:43.780 We all go to church, patch me up.

00:42:45.700 It's a hospital, but if they're just talking about general medicine and how medicine works,

00:42:52.980 you're like, I know.

00:42:53.960 Trust the science almost.

00:42:55.440 Right.

00:42:55.680 Right.

00:42:56.200 You got to say, it's a war out there and I know what you're facing.

00:43:00.180 Yeah.

00:43:00.460 And, and here are the things you're going to need this week.

00:43:03.140 Yeah.

00:43:03.600 Just to help you get through.

00:43:05.180 What I think is helping a lot.

00:43:06.840 Um, and I'm seeing this cause you know, coming from my music background, contemporary Christian

00:43:10.960 music artists like Brandon Lake, I mean, these are, these are hardcore rock guys and they're

00:43:16.720 out there preaching the gospel to, to stadiums, 15, 20,000 people a night filled with young

00:43:23.340 people.

00:43:23.980 This is helping this.

00:43:25.580 This is a, this is a very good development.

00:43:28.440 And so when I say I see revival, I mean, we went to see Lauren Daigle in Austin and it

00:43:33.800 was at the Moody.

00:43:34.560 I'm like, so we actually went downtown to the Moody, the Moody theater, which is like 2000.

00:43:38.640 And they're like, no, no, no, no.

00:43:40.280 It's over there.

00:43:41.080 It's at the 15,000 seater.

00:43:43.560 And so we had to back to the university.

00:43:45.720 I'm like, Whoa.

00:43:47.680 Well, I mean, I get goosebumps just thinking about it and not one night, three nights in

00:43:51.100 a row.

00:43:51.520 Yeah.

00:43:51.700 Yeah.

00:43:52.040 And, and so the message, um, there's, you know, different generations are there.

00:43:57.560 I've been to a lot of concerts, Glenn.

00:43:59.000 I've been to Metallica in the mosh pit.

00:44:01.380 I've been, you know, I've been everywhere.

00:44:04.000 This is different.

00:44:05.660 And people are worshiping.

00:44:07.060 And by the way, Christian music concerts, they got the words on the screen.

00:44:10.800 This is a great thing.

00:44:12.020 We should have this with every single concert.

00:44:13.840 Like, let me sing along.

00:44:15.340 The words are right there.

00:44:16.780 Um, so, you know, it's a, it's healing.

00:44:20.160 And when you sing along with something, you're speaking words.

00:44:22.960 And this, I think this is a part of the process for people.

00:44:25.960 I hope so.

00:44:27.940 Back with more with, uh, Adam Curry in just a minute.

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00:46:14.760 I have a podcast coming up next month.

00:46:18.200 Oh, you need more podcasts in your life is what you need.

00:46:21.040 But it's with Emma Nissen, I think.

00:46:25.260 She's from Sweden.

00:46:27.100 Grew up in Arizona.

00:46:28.100 And she is a combination of Ella Fitzgerald, Adele, Billie Eilish.

00:46:38.160 I mean, she is, you know, you know this.

00:46:41.020 Whenever you can't put somebody in a category, you know, you're like that.

00:46:45.740 And then you hear something else and you're like, no, you're like that.

00:46:47.920 You're dealing with new original talent.

00:46:50.120 That's right.

00:46:50.400 But she is, she's doing jazz and it is unbelievable.

00:46:56.060 And she's in her 20s and she sings like she has been singing for 50 years.

00:47:01.320 And it's all spiritual.

00:47:04.820 It's all about God.

00:47:07.640 And you can listen to it and just sing along and not, you know, not necessarily be a God

00:47:14.880 person.

00:47:15.340 But words matter.

00:47:16.440 Words matter.

00:47:17.580 Or I'm listening to that and I'm thinking, you know, you know, I want a little sugar in

00:47:24.060 my bowl or am I worthy?

00:47:26.980 You know, the words, people sing words and they don't even think about what they mean.

00:47:32.900 And they are always making an impression.

00:47:36.640 Of course.

00:47:37.140 You know what I mean?

00:47:37.660 Always.

00:47:38.220 As you're, you're saying those, you're affirming those words and look at the crap that is out

00:47:43.880 there now.

00:47:44.320 Of course, I'm saying this to an old MTV VJ.

00:47:48.440 The master of crap.

00:47:49.980 No, I mean, no, but I mean, we sound like the people that we used to rebel against that

00:47:56.000 would look at MTV and go MTV when they played me.

00:47:59.300 I don't even know if people even know what MTV is or what it is now.

00:48:01.980 No, there are people who look at me and like, no, no, I have no idea what you're talking

00:48:04.980 about, bro.

00:48:05.900 They weren't born then.

00:48:07.720 You know, no idea.

00:48:08.340 It's crazy.

00:48:08.980 It was the right move for them at the time.

00:48:11.400 They needed to, you know, they're now a multi-billion dollar brand.

00:48:14.480 If they had just stayed with music videos, they would have been dead.

00:48:17.640 Yeah.

00:48:17.820 Yeah.

00:48:18.020 You know, they, they saw that coming and you know, you know how ratings work.

00:48:21.140 You get a 0.2 for your music programming.

00:48:24.760 And all of a sudden you get the magical 1.0 for remote control or one of these long form

00:48:30.160 shows.

00:48:30.540 It was over from, it was just, I was like, okay, that makes sense there.

00:48:33.380 Now, the stuff they do like 16 and pregnant and all this stuff, that's no good.

00:48:39.660 I don't like that.

00:48:40.640 When I was a kid, man, we didn't have that kind of programming on TV.

00:48:44.600 We were wholesome.

00:48:45.780 I tell you, we had Jack Parr.

00:48:51.020 What was, when you were on MTV, how, what was the rating?

00:48:57.420 How many people were actually watching you?

00:48:59.220 Well, when I got there, uh, 86, 87, they just moved to basic cable.

00:49:04.600 This was a big deal because that meant you were in 40 million households overnight because

00:49:08.980 they were very, very piecemeal.

00:49:10.820 And this was before the big cable roll-ups.

00:49:12.840 So a couple of things happened.

00:49:14.240 One speech got restricted right away.

00:49:16.840 You got to be very careful what you say, you know, watershed, all that stuff.

00:49:20.720 You can't say these certain words, which kind of sucks.

00:49:24.240 Um, the, the, the music, the label still really controlled a lot.

00:49:29.760 I mean, it was like, I remember making a joke about Madonna and like, no, no, no, no, no.

00:49:34.160 You can't do that.

00:49:34.960 You don't know.

00:49:35.280 You got to stop you.

00:49:36.040 We can't, what are you talking about?

00:49:37.220 It's just a joke.

00:49:38.400 Um, so I would say that at any given moment during, during the day, there was probably

00:49:45.540 just during the music videos, it would be about three, 400,000.

00:49:50.020 And then I did dial MTV, which was later became total request live.

00:49:55.340 Then became TRL with Carson Daly.

00:49:58.080 And that was a call in show.

00:50:00.220 Call 1-800-DIAL-M-TV.

00:50:01.640 Tell us what video you want.

00:50:02.880 And I'm telling you for years, new kids on the block was the most requested video.

00:50:07.400 Never on the chart.

00:50:08.520 Never, never on the chart.

00:50:10.040 It was never on the chart.

00:50:11.560 Um, and that was probably eight, 900,000.

00:50:14.360 Cause it was very interactive, you know, back in the day interactive.

00:50:17.000 Can you believe we had an 800 number?

00:50:19.000 I know.

00:50:19.360 That was interactive.

00:50:20.320 I know.

00:50:20.820 That was, that's what that was.

00:50:22.440 I don't think people can understand.

00:50:24.480 I see, I just saw Hunter Biden do an interview today.

00:50:28.720 This is an interesting piece of video.

00:50:30.880 All right.

00:50:31.260 Very interesting.

00:50:31.840 But let me stop here first.

00:50:33.340 By the way, crack is clean.

00:50:34.140 It's good.

00:50:34.560 I know it's good for it.

00:50:35.500 I mean, it's much better than alcohol.

00:50:37.220 Have some crack.

00:50:37.820 But the guy I'm watching too, I've never heard of him.

00:50:41.200 He's got several million views.

00:50:44.520 I'd never heard of him before.

00:50:45.960 And I thought, my gosh, we are so that the days of broadcasting where everybody kind of

00:50:52.580 knew who's, who people, those, those days are so far gone where it's really now very

00:51:00.440 narrow, very narrow.

00:51:01.760 This is why I'm all about hyper-local podcasts, really.

00:51:05.000 I mean, like, we've got to move beyond this.

00:51:07.980 I have to have the most.

00:51:09.200 I have to have number one.

00:51:10.520 I, you know, it's just unimportant at the end of the day.

00:51:13.220 We're always going to have huge shows.

00:51:16.140 By the way, views is, you know, what is a view?

00:51:18.360 Is it 30 seconds?

00:51:19.480 You know, how much does someone watch?

00:51:21.040 Whatever.

00:51:21.500 It's all fine.

00:51:22.140 We need to come back to smaller communities, whether geographic or of interest.

00:51:29.520 So that we, you know, kind of like no agenda.

00:51:31.800 If I, if you walk down the street, you ever hear the no agenda show?

00:51:33.780 Most people are saying, no, we don't do video.

00:51:36.160 We have a little under a million people.

00:51:38.080 It's all RSS podcasting based, but those people, there are our family and they have family.

00:51:46.940 And, you know, we always say we're trying to get your amygdala the right size so that you can go out and spin you down from what's happening in the news.

00:51:54.880 And that's all I can do.

00:51:56.580 That's what I do.

00:51:57.580 I don't need to, you know, flip on video and show two old dudes with cans and microphones.

00:52:03.640 And, you know, I'm not interested in that.

00:52:05.760 I just, and by the way, I love radio.

00:52:08.180 I just love theater of the mind.

00:52:10.520 I don't want people to know where I'm sitting.

00:52:12.120 I want them to have a vision in their head of, you know, all of that.

00:52:15.800 It's the only art form that you as listener have to work as hard as the person speaking.

00:52:22.180 And if they're speaking and they're good at it, you're making movies all the time in your head.

00:52:27.580 I love that part.

00:52:28.480 Me too.

00:52:29.120 I mean, I've only one.

00:52:30.240 I still, even though we start the show at one o'clock for me on Thursdays and Sundays, I have the room dark.

00:52:36.340 You know, I got the little lamp.

00:52:38.000 I really want the green visor.

00:52:39.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:52:40.800 Dark and like I'm in my space.

00:52:42.600 Sometimes I'm talking with my eyes closed.

00:52:44.380 You know, I'm just trying to get the words out.

00:52:48.160 So that's, we need more of that.

00:52:50.900 And it's funny because when you tell people, you know, you can do a podcast just for your town.

00:52:54.900 They're like, I can't?

00:52:56.860 Yeah.

00:52:57.100 You don't have to have a million people viewing you on YouTube.

00:53:02.800 Oh, that's interesting.

00:53:03.720 And you could talk about stuff that makes a difference in your community.

00:53:07.100 I can't?

00:53:07.900 Yeah.

00:53:08.340 You can do that.

00:53:08.960 And by the way, your church probably has a studio because we built all that during COVID.

00:53:14.280 So we, we, we got our technology vibe on and people are genuinely surprised.

00:53:19.640 Like I never thought of that because we've been conditioned.

00:53:22.600 It's got to be millions, got to be Rogan, got to be Beck, got to be Vaughn, got to be Megyn Kelly, on and on and on and on and on.

00:53:31.460 No, no, you can make a big difference.

00:53:33.880 You know, let's not lose sight of that.

00:53:36.160 What kind of a difference you can make for your community and for your life and for your family and for your friends.

00:53:40.860 Let me go back to the Hunter Biden podcast.

00:53:44.660 Please.

00:53:45.020 What was that?

00:53:48.880 Yeah.

00:53:50.160 I don't know.

00:53:52.040 Evil.

00:53:54.720 It's, it's insane.

00:53:56.380 And of course it's clickbait and it's meant to draw us in.

00:53:59.280 It's meant for us to have this conversation.

00:54:01.440 And, you know, it's someone just like, don't look over here.

00:54:05.960 Look over here now.

00:54:06.860 And don't, let's go over there.

00:54:08.460 And Hunter Biden.

00:54:09.360 So this will, this will, I mean, it wouldn't even surprise me if this was launched by the Trump administration.

00:54:14.040 To distract from Epstein.

00:54:17.360 Just let's everybody look at this.

00:54:19.080 Oh, we're going to arrest Obama.

00:54:20.380 I mean, we are, I was talking to my friend Brent and he's like, we weren't meant, I don't think God designed us to process all this information.

00:54:29.000 We're not, you can see this in companies even.

00:54:32.120 A company starts to break down at about 200, 150 to 200 people.

00:54:36.820 Yeah, you're right.

00:54:37.580 You're only meant to have so many friends in your life.

00:54:41.660 You know what I mean?

00:54:42.260 And when your community gets, as an individual, more than 30, it all starts to break apart.

00:54:50.100 Yeah.

00:54:50.740 We are doing things now that man is not created to do.

00:54:55.520 Yeah.

00:54:56.020 You know?

00:54:56.700 The sooner we recognize that, the better.

00:54:58.200 The better we are.

00:54:59.260 Yeah.

00:55:01.120 Let me go back to Epstein.

00:55:02.840 You said that you watched the show last week.

00:55:06.320 Yes.

00:55:06.620 What did you think, what was your thought, takeaway?

00:55:09.860 Well, my, I was thinking of you and I was thinking of what you're getting from people that it doesn't matter what you say, what you do, you're getting a deluge of just hate.

00:55:19.500 Yeah.

00:55:19.680 From, from no matter what, it's like a topic that it doesn't matter what you say, you almost don't want to talk about it.

00:55:26.520 But then it's like, you don't want to talk about it.

00:55:28.520 Yeah, I know.

00:55:28.960 So, it's like, I'm like, oh, at least we got Hunter Biden to talk about.

00:55:34.300 That's the audience capture.

00:55:35.740 And I know that you're strong and I appreciate you for that.

00:55:38.840 You're just like, no, I'm just going to say what I think.

00:55:41.140 Not going to beat it to death.

00:55:43.020 And that, again, is a problem.

00:55:44.320 People want you to beat it to death.

00:55:45.920 We're not going to stop until we've uncovered all of these pedophiles.

00:55:50.000 You've got to let it go.

00:55:52.020 Memo.

00:55:52.660 There's not going to be anything.

00:55:54.400 We're not going to get anything.

00:55:55.560 It's not going to happen.

00:55:56.420 You know, do we really get anything from the JFK files or do we really get any of that?

00:56:01.100 9-11, you know, on and on and on.

00:56:04.140 We're not going to get it.

00:56:05.480 So, is this, has this always been this way?

00:56:10.000 And we're just, there's just so many of us.

00:56:12.860 I mean, because we always had the conspiracy kook on everybody's street.

00:56:16.500 And, you know, it was like, don't, you know, if he's out, you know, you might want to just walk on the other side.

00:56:21.740 Otherwise, he's going to get you in a conversation and you're there forever.

00:56:24.840 We all had that.

00:56:25.920 Now, everybody's street kook is everywhere, you know what I mean?

00:56:32.700 And they have voices.

00:56:34.540 And so, was it, was it, was it that we just didn't see it?

00:56:41.120 We didn't hear it?

00:56:43.640 I mean, I just have this pull for, I want to see some justice.

00:56:48.960 I want to see people I know have lied, perjured themselves, broken the law, whatever it is.

00:56:58.120 I want to see them face justice.

00:57:01.940 I know God is going to do that.

00:57:03.840 But to be able to have some faith in my country that there is, you can't go into a city and burn it to the ground and then have everybody celebrate you.

00:57:13.660 Which is kind of what happened with the BLM riots.

00:57:16.640 Yes.

00:57:16.960 Well, I think I have to stop for myself that I know God will bring justice.

00:57:24.020 Because, of course, it's like with this rain that we had.

00:57:29.960 This is literally 20 minutes from my house.

00:57:31.940 Fredericksburg is in a higher elevation.

00:57:33.460 So, you know, our pool overflowed, but, you know, what a problem.

00:57:37.240 Yeah.

00:57:37.500 Wow.

00:57:37.940 Yeah.

00:57:38.320 And then, you know, as we started to get the news coming in, streaming from people, it's like, and there are adult, intelligent people who are looking at videos that tell them that this was created by 5G towers, by excessive cloud seeding.

00:57:57.480 And because they want an answer, they want to say, okay, I know why, and that person did it, or this entity did it.

00:58:07.440 That's where we're missing God.

00:58:08.940 I just keep coming back to it.

00:58:10.360 You have to just let it go.

00:58:12.580 There are acts of God, and then there are acts of men.

00:58:15.660 And I agree with you.

00:58:16.880 You've got to let it go.

00:58:18.080 I got that.

00:58:18.820 But, you know, when you're looking for an answer in a flood, and you're down to cloud seeding and 5G towers, that's a problem.

00:58:29.400 Yeah.

00:58:30.060 You know, there were not enough.

00:58:32.980 And these are intelligent people.

00:58:34.360 I know.

00:58:34.480 These are my friends.

00:58:36.680 I love them.

00:58:37.200 I know.

00:58:37.600 Donald Trump, you know, fired everybody in NOAA.

00:58:40.760 Wait, what?

00:58:42.020 You know.

00:58:42.380 Another one.

00:58:42.900 Okay, so I get it.

00:58:44.300 But when you're down to that on a natural event, and that's your first thought, that's a real problem.

00:58:52.680 But there are those things that happen because man did it and not facing justice.

00:59:00.440 How do you let go of the second?

00:59:04.400 Again, I go back.

00:59:05.140 Do you think our country has always been like this, or we just didn't know this?

00:59:07.420 Probably.

00:59:08.420 Yeah.

00:59:08.780 Probably.

00:59:09.400 I mean, yeah.

00:59:10.500 Probably.

00:59:10.900 I mean, the amount of information we have is too much, you know, and everything's a disaster everywhere all the time.

00:59:19.520 All the time.

00:59:19.940 But, you know, like, so you look at the death and destruction in the Middle East with Israel and Gaza, but no one's talking about what's happening in Africa, or, you know, I mean, there's killing.

00:59:33.840 I mean, how many people are dying?

00:59:35.140 We've moved on from Ukraine.

00:59:37.100 I mean, I don't care who's to blame.

00:59:38.640 A lot of people die in there.

00:59:39.980 We, you know, no one cares.

00:59:41.800 So what is it?

00:59:42.660 What are we, what are we doing?

00:59:44.100 You know, what are we, what are we thinking about?

00:59:46.960 So what is that?

00:59:50.340 Broken.

00:59:51.020 Just, we've lost spirituality.

00:59:52.520 I mean, when I think, like, I'm not afraid of dying, because I know where I'm going.

00:59:57.700 That's so freeing.

01:00:00.440 A friend of mine said, you know, we're in jail, and Jesus has given us the key to reach out behind the bars and unlock the door and get out.

01:00:11.780 And we keep locking ourselves in.

01:00:13.860 We keep closing the door.

01:00:15.400 I just want to be in here.

01:00:16.460 I just want to be in here with all of this stuff going on.

01:00:19.640 So I know that justice will be done.

01:00:22.440 I know that ultimately, everyone who has perpetrated these horrendous acts and crimes, there will be justice.

01:00:30.720 I pray that God brings justice for us to see it.

01:00:33.400 But that's not, that's not just the law book.

01:00:38.380 That's not just the Department of Justice.

01:00:39.900 That's got to come from somewhere else.

01:00:41.400 That's got to come from the same place that a bullet grazed the president's ear, and maybe he's actually gotten some faith in him.

01:00:49.160 I don't know.

01:00:50.440 That's got, that's got to come from.

01:00:51.900 Do you know him at all?

01:00:52.680 Sorry?

01:00:53.140 Do you know him at all?

01:00:54.340 Only from back in the 80s, you know, when it was like everyone had, everyone has got Trump's cell phone number.

01:00:59.660 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:01:01.220 So, no, I don't know.

01:01:02.480 I don't know him.

01:01:03.100 I think I've known him for quite a while.

01:01:06.060 He changed.

01:01:07.480 Yeah.

01:01:07.720 That changed him.

01:01:08.640 How much it affects him every day, I don't know.

01:01:12.700 Well, he's got the whole office of faith, and, you know, they're praying over him.

01:01:17.440 I like seeing that.

01:01:18.480 I think that's pretty good.

01:01:20.040 Mike Johnson, for whatever you want, you know, he's a very, very faithful, believing man.

01:01:25.460 And, you know, not everybody's a fan, but, I mean, you know, God puts, we're supposed to pray for our leaders.

01:01:33.100 And our elected officials.

01:01:35.020 And I did for Biden as well.

01:01:36.920 I did for Biden.

01:01:37.620 I did for Obama.

01:01:38.780 Yeah.

01:01:39.360 Well, I wasn't saved then, so I was like, screw Obama.

01:01:42.400 Get that socialist out of there.

01:01:46.080 But, yeah, I mean, you've got to pray.

01:01:48.840 You've got to pray for that they get wisdom.

01:01:51.620 And that's, you know, that's been very freeing for me because, man, I got all kinds of mad and crazy.

01:01:58.900 And I was definitely out there in conspiracy land, for sure.

01:02:02.140 Now I'm more a conspiracy therapist.

01:02:03.900 You know, calm people down.

01:02:06.080 Bring you down.

01:02:07.240 It's okay.

01:02:07.740 It's going to be all right.

01:02:08.760 Look at your wife.

01:02:09.800 Look at your kids.

01:02:10.760 Love them for a second.

01:02:11.800 Hug them.

01:02:12.300 Kiss them.

01:02:13.440 We have love.

01:02:14.360 You know, we've got to love each other.

01:02:16.020 It's hard, but if you don't, it's like if you can't forgive, you're just going to hurt yourself.

01:02:22.320 Yeah.

01:02:22.540 That's what people eventually they realize.

01:02:24.540 They're like, I'm not feeling too good.

01:02:25.680 Well, you're just angry and you're not forgiving and you can't give up and give in and move on sometimes.

01:02:31.640 And I know exactly the responses I'm going to get from this podcast, what people are going to say, but I'm okay.

01:02:38.740 You know, it's like I'm giving you a way to freedom to calm down.

01:02:43.320 It doesn't mean that anything is right or can't change.

01:02:47.120 It doesn't mean that you don't stand up for what is right.

01:02:51.080 Exactly.

01:02:51.800 You've got to do that.

01:02:53.360 I think people, when you say you've got to let it go, people think that's surrender.

01:02:57.960 It's not surrender.

01:02:58.820 Jesus let everything go.

01:03:00.620 He did not surrender.

01:03:02.460 Nope.

01:03:03.780 You know, he fought until the very end just in a different way.

01:03:07.740 And you can only do what you can do.

01:03:09.880 So, and then, you know, God tells you to do something, stand over there.

01:03:14.620 Stand over there.

01:03:15.840 And be the best at standing over there.

01:03:18.380 Be the best you can possibly be standing over there.

01:03:22.240 But, you know, I had somebody say to me once, you know, it's really interesting because I'm like, I've got to do more.

01:03:31.160 I've got to do more.

01:03:31.820 And he said, it's really interesting to me how we don't view that as sinful.

01:03:38.360 And I said, what do you mean?

01:03:39.860 He said, God told you, you've told me, he told you what to do.

01:03:45.680 And yet you're saying, no, I want to do more.

01:03:49.720 He's like, just do that.

01:03:53.040 That's enough.

01:03:53.960 In his timing, be patient.

01:03:56.100 Yeah.

01:03:56.800 Yeah.

01:03:57.360 Yeah.

01:03:57.740 Oh, I fall prey to that too.

01:03:59.640 I know.

01:04:00.020 All the time.

01:04:01.080 I've got to do more.

01:04:01.980 There's more to be done.

01:04:03.160 I know.

01:04:04.160 But in general, I think I'm bullish about the future.

01:04:08.080 I really am.

01:04:08.700 I'm an optimist by nature.

01:04:10.840 I see beauty every single day, everywhere.

01:04:14.520 Where I don't find it is on my phone.

01:04:16.640 I just don't find it there.

01:04:17.980 It's just not there.

01:04:19.400 And, you know, it probably has to get worse before it gets better.

01:04:22.200 Um, that people realize like, no, just, this is not doing it for me.

01:04:27.300 So I'm focusing more on how can we make the, the summer camp for the kids better?

01:04:32.660 You know, how, how can I mentor some, some of the young men to do a podcast about what's

01:04:38.440 happening in their lives so that they can speak into their own, their own culture?

01:04:42.500 How can I do that stuff?

01:04:43.900 You know, me, I'm going to be 61 in September.

01:04:47.020 You know, I have a whole new, whole new plan that God's given me, but I want to facilitate

01:04:52.520 the next generation.

01:04:53.920 We need the next, the next Glenn Beck.

01:04:55.720 Where's that coming from?

01:04:56.640 We need them.

01:04:57.520 It's really, it's really funny because I'm, I'm doing something.

01:05:00.440 I'm completely reshaping my life, um, beginning in January and haven't really talked about

01:05:07.520 it very much yet.

01:05:08.700 And, uh, we're in exactly the same place.

01:05:12.020 That's what the Lord is leading me to.

01:05:13.980 He's like, man, next generation, what are you doing?

01:05:16.660 Yeah.

01:05:17.060 It's not about you.

01:05:18.120 It's not about your impact.

01:05:19.960 It's about now you passing the torch to the next generation and saying, where are the ones

01:05:27.420 that want to serve?

01:05:29.600 How can I strengthen you?

01:05:32.100 You know?

01:05:32.660 Wow.

01:05:33.300 And I think that's, I mean, that's what I'm hearing from you too.

01:05:35.760 Of course.

01:05:36.360 Yeah.

01:05:36.560 And if there's anything I can do to help you with that mission, you let me know because

01:05:39.520 that's, and that's, that's part of our mission, man.

01:05:42.740 That's what we have to do.

01:05:44.320 Um, we've both been in, in media a long time.

01:05:47.200 You know, we've had the ups, had the downs.

01:05:49.160 It's like, isn't, it doesn't matter.

01:05:51.360 You know, it's like, I'm good.

01:05:53.060 You know, I'm fine.

01:05:54.240 We have a little house, a little community, but now how can I do the next level?

01:05:58.460 Did you ever, cause I did, did you, and sometimes it still will play a role with me and I'll

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01:07:40.560 When I found out my friend got a great deal on a wool coat from Winners, I started wondering,

01:07:46.420 is every fabulous item I see from Winners?

01:07:49.520 Like that woman over there with the designer jeans.

01:07:52.260 Are those from Winners?

01:07:53.800 Ooh, are those beautiful gold earrings.

01:07:56.260 Did she pay full price?

01:07:57.320 Or that leather tote?

01:07:58.600 Or that cashmere sweater?

01:07:59.780 Or those knee-high boots?

01:08:01.280 That dress?

01:08:02.060 That jacket?

01:08:02.740 Those shoes?

01:08:03.760 Is anyone paying full price for anything?

01:08:06.700 Stop wondering.

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01:08:08.920 Winners.

01:08:09.520 Find fabulous for less.

01:08:12.140 Did you...

01:08:13.980 Fame and fortune is such battery acid to the soul because you notice fortune going down,

01:08:22.460 fame going down.

01:08:23.500 What do I do?

01:08:23.920 Your first response is, uh-oh, I'm becoming irrelevant.

01:08:27.820 And, you know what I mean?

01:08:29.280 Did that ever play a role in your life?

01:08:31.380 Um...

01:08:31.860 Not really.

01:08:36.380 I mean, I kind of made myself irrelevant when I left MTV and started an internet company.

01:08:43.640 And, you know, I became relevant in other ways.

01:08:47.980 We had 750 people.

01:08:49.640 We took it public.

01:08:50.560 I mean, it was a crazy time.

01:08:52.160 I hear you about the more than 200.

01:08:55.220 And then I woke up one day.

01:08:57.400 I'm like, I'm wearing a suit.

01:08:58.660 You know, this is...

01:08:59.360 I would stop.

01:08:59.880 I want to get out.

01:09:00.520 And then kind of, like, went to recollect myself.

01:09:03.960 And then all of a sudden podcasting happened.

01:09:06.520 And I knew right then and there, you know, this cannot be owned by anybody.

01:09:11.340 So I just became a podcaster, you know?

01:09:15.160 And just started doing what I love doing.

01:09:18.520 It just be like being on the radio without someone telling me what to do.

01:09:21.840 So that never...

01:09:23.360 No.

01:09:23.540 And also, for whatever reason, I've never worried about money.

01:09:27.920 I've had it.

01:09:28.700 I haven't had it.

01:09:29.420 I've spent it.

01:09:30.120 It's always...

01:09:31.180 I learned in 1990, I remember it very well.

01:09:33.980 MTV fired me for, like, the seventh time because I wouldn't cut my hair or whatever.

01:09:38.480 And the producer's like, no, this is real this time, bro.

01:09:41.880 You're out.

01:09:42.340 And I had, like, two grand in the bank, a mortgage, you know, a six-month-old child.

01:09:46.600 I'm like, what am I going to do?

01:09:47.860 And I was just eating myself up for days and days.

01:09:50.580 It was actually Tony Robbins' Power Talk tapes.

01:09:53.420 Do you remember those?

01:09:54.180 No, yeah.

01:09:54.360 And I was like, you can change how you feel in an instant.

01:09:56.840 I'm like, okay, I feel better now.

01:09:58.440 I didn't.

01:10:00.320 But I just...

01:10:01.620 Anyway, after five days, MTV called and said, well, nobody can really do this.

01:10:05.060 So we're going to hire you back.

01:10:06.080 We're going to give you four times, five times your rate.

01:10:08.800 And from that moment on, I went, I'm never, ever, ever worrying about money again.

01:10:13.140 I'm never going to do that.

01:10:14.620 It's just not worth it.

01:10:16.820 And so I've been up and down.

01:10:18.020 So how did you do that?

01:10:19.000 How did you correct that?

01:10:19.880 I just stopped.

01:10:20.940 I just stopped.

01:10:22.220 And now I know the Lord provides.

01:10:25.980 And as I said, it's been up here.

01:10:27.640 It's been down here.

01:10:28.520 It's been all over the place.

01:10:29.260 I think that's the only thing that is...

01:10:31.260 That changed my life.

01:10:33.700 Knowing that there is no bad.

01:10:36.980 There is no bad.

01:10:38.360 It just is.

01:10:39.820 It is.

01:10:40.120 And it's how you deal with it.

01:10:42.000 And you can be really happy with nothing.

01:10:46.040 You can be really miserable with a lot.

01:10:49.500 And you'll go from have to have not and back and forth.

01:10:54.860 And it really doesn't...

01:10:57.420 It's easy to say when you have money.

01:10:59.580 Well, when I had...

01:11:00.800 I was very miserable when I had a lot of money.

01:11:03.000 I remember.

01:11:03.640 I'm like, this sucks.

01:11:05.680 You know, you got multiple houses.

01:11:07.060 You got a guy to watch the house and a guy to watch the guy who watches the house.

01:11:10.840 And a gardener.

01:11:11.540 And then the helicopter pilot.

01:11:12.820 And I was like, what am I doing?

01:11:15.600 And then it all...

01:11:16.640 And the Lord took it away from me.

01:11:18.560 I spent most of it.

01:11:20.080 That was fun.

01:11:21.620 Like, he took it away by me spending it on full stuff.

01:11:24.360 Right, right, right.

01:11:25.660 But then that humbled me.

01:11:27.480 And I'm like, okay.

01:11:28.300 And then just do what I do.

01:11:30.480 I'm just a radio guy.

01:11:32.140 Just do my podcast.

01:11:34.120 Do what I love doing.

01:11:35.980 And it's been okay.

01:11:37.740 Joe Walsh.

01:11:38.560 Life's been good to me so far.

01:11:41.120 Let's leave it here with the next 12 months.

01:11:44.940 What do you see on the horizon?

01:11:46.280 Wow.

01:11:46.640 Well, everything...

01:11:48.320 Politically, everything's going to be about the midterms.

01:11:50.740 Everything now, it's all about midterms.

01:11:52.740 The whole thing.

01:11:53.580 No matter what you hear about Epstein or this.

01:11:55.820 It's all...

01:11:56.720 Elon.

01:11:57.300 Don't forget, Elon's out here floating around doing something.

01:12:01.320 It's all about the midterms.

01:12:02.780 It's all politics.

01:12:04.180 I hope that President Trump is just doing what he thinks is the right thing to do for the country.

01:12:09.620 That he does not care.

01:12:11.380 He just doesn't care.

01:12:12.360 Like, I've got these things to take care of.

01:12:15.640 I don't know.

01:12:16.640 I will tell you, the last time I was with him, he said those words to me, I don't know

01:12:25.640 how many times.

01:12:27.300 I don't really care.

01:12:28.360 Interesting.

01:12:29.040 I don't care.

01:12:29.960 Well...

01:12:30.240 They can say whatever they want.

01:12:31.160 I don't care.

01:12:32.300 I'm doing this.

01:12:33.160 Yeah.

01:12:33.380 Well, so he also, I don't think he really has his finger on the pulse the way he thinks

01:12:38.660 he does.

01:12:39.240 I agree with that.

01:12:39.680 He didn't really understand how angry people were about forced vaccinations, warp speed.

01:12:45.060 He felt that he had done a great thing.

01:12:47.040 It doesn't matter on what side of the aisle you are.

01:12:49.060 It was very controversial.

01:12:50.000 I've never seen him, except for that, I've never seen him, you know, trying to take the

01:12:56.780 pulse of the nation here.

01:12:58.640 And with Epstein, it's like...

01:13:00.160 I think he blew it.

01:13:00.980 I think too.

01:13:01.500 I think he was like trying to find the pulse in the shoulder.

01:13:03.800 And I'm like, dude, you're off here.

01:13:05.800 And it was odd because he is so on the money.

01:13:10.300 He knows the audience.

01:13:11.280 He knows it.

01:13:11.720 He knows the audience.

01:13:12.700 But now he's playing it like kind of a reality show.

01:13:14.980 And you can't just cut to commercial here.

01:13:16.980 That's not going to happen.

01:13:18.900 So, you know, I hope that...

01:13:24.580 In his last two years, does he become lame duck?

01:13:27.260 I know we haven't even finished.

01:13:28.360 Don't know.

01:13:29.060 I mean...

01:13:30.040 I mean, he's still going.

01:13:31.000 I mean, the NPR, PBS thing, did you ever think that would happen?

01:13:35.720 Well, what was really interesting is that all the media...

01:13:38.440 So this was the $9 billion rescission bill.

01:13:41.720 The $1 billion for...

01:13:43.220 And by the way, a billion dollars, what are you telling me?

01:13:46.320 I know.

01:13:47.000 When we had these floods, you turn on NPR, they were running fresh air with Terry Gross.

01:13:51.560 There was no local NPR station.

01:13:53.960 Same with Snowmageddon a couple of years back.

01:13:57.700 Five straight days, no power.

01:14:00.420 NPR was...

01:14:01.240 We had literally the weather guy on the local Top 40 station was doing better than NPR.

01:14:05.660 So I don't care too much about that.

01:14:10.100 But...

01:14:10.880 The $9 billion was something very interesting that happened in American politics.

01:14:19.660 When Richard Nixon...

01:14:21.660 Basically, Congress finagled it so that when Congress, who holds the purse strings,

01:14:27.480 when they appropriate money, you have to spend it all on that thing.

01:14:32.420 And this rescission bill, rescission, rescission, rescission bill, was a trial balloon to say,

01:14:39.200 wait a minute, I'm the CEO of the country, and I don't want to spend this money on that,

01:14:44.380 and I make that decision, and here's how it's going to work from now on.

01:14:47.680 No one really wants to talk about that part, certainly not the Democrats.

01:14:50.960 But there's a very big shift in how money is appropriated and now works in America,

01:14:57.340 which I think is a good thing.

01:14:59.140 I do too.

01:14:59.460 Because there's so much corruption and pushing money towards projects,

01:15:03.660 and then Congress goes, good, it's all spent, you have to spend it, you've got to spend it all,

01:15:06.900 it's all got to go out.

01:15:07.980 And now it's like, no, no, no, we're going to take back this money.

01:15:10.460 I think that this $9 billion is just a fraction of what we're going to see in the future.

01:15:14.020 I hope so.

01:15:14.520 I hope so too.

01:15:15.800 So those things, President Trump will probably never get credit for moving that kind of stuff.

01:15:22.900 He's changed, I think in six months, he's changed the nation and the presidency forever.

01:15:28.900 Yes, and very strong forces are trying to stop him and distract us from that, and it's understandable.

01:15:37.840 How do you feel about Tulsi Gabbard in the position?

01:15:41.220 I know you have an uncle that was in the CIA.

01:15:44.980 Yes, Uncle Don.

01:15:46.880 These are the scariest people, and she's now sitting right at the head going,

01:15:52.480 let me see what you have, let me see your work here.

01:15:56.280 If any of this stuff is true, she's not in a really comfortable position.

01:16:04.260 She's very brave.

01:16:05.080 Very brave, very brave.

01:16:07.760 Do you believe what's coming out?

01:16:10.980 Totally.

01:16:12.900 Having grown up kind of spook adjacent with my entire family.

01:16:17.540 Did I ever tell you about my aunt?

01:16:21.140 No.

01:16:21.720 Uncle Don, he was in OSS.

01:16:24.900 The CIA was still in OSS, and he was a cryptographer.

01:16:27.280 And then he rose up to be, he actually had, he was national security advisor to Bush Sr.

01:16:34.120 Wow.

01:16:34.620 And you had Felix Rodriguez on, though he knows Felix very, very well because of Iran-Contra.

01:16:40.240 He tells stories about Felix showing up, coming to a party at the embassy, and he had his hand grenades on his belt.

01:16:47.460 I'm going right, you know, Vietnam days.

01:16:49.220 I'm going back, and I'll see you guys later.

01:16:50.960 But when Aunt Meg, so he was also ambassador to Korea, you know, after Iran-Contra, go over here, do this.

01:17:01.240 And Aunt Meg, she was just, she was a wonderful, like, ambassador wife, you know, and she just, and she was the matron of the, kind of, of the whole family.

01:17:10.640 And just, we called her secretly Bossy Cow, but she just, she just, she just was great.

01:17:15.680 And when she passed a couple of years ago, nobody knew this.

01:17:19.480 Turns out, she outranked Uncle Don in the CIA.

01:17:23.160 She ran the Russia desk, spoke fluent Russian.

01:17:25.940 Oh, my gosh.

01:17:26.740 And no one knew that.

01:17:28.200 So it was revealed when, when she passed.

01:17:31.000 I'm like, so I look at these people, and for whatever you do, good or bad, they approach it from a patriotic standpoint.

01:17:38.880 They really want to do good for the country.

01:17:41.700 I wouldn't say universally that's true.

01:17:45.740 I'm sure there's some people who are.

01:17:47.100 I think the old school CIA.

01:17:49.420 Yes.

01:17:49.980 You know, that was the Catholics in action, jump out of airplanes, save the world.

01:17:54.060 Yes, yes, yes.

01:17:54.280 That has changed.

01:17:55.240 And that has changed a long, long time.

01:17:57.240 And it's all propaganda, psyops.

01:18:00.320 I mean, all of social media is either psyop by the CIA or the DIA.

01:18:05.260 You know, things that get traction.

01:18:07.440 I mean, you can't trust any of it.

01:18:09.460 So, it would be, will we ever open that up?

01:18:13.200 Will everyone ever understand it?

01:18:15.060 No.

01:18:15.660 You know, do we need it?

01:18:17.080 I don't know.

01:18:17.880 I mean, all of it is, it's really quite disgusting, the whole thing.

01:18:22.500 But, of course, as I always say to people, it's like, look, if we don't, for instance, Iran.

01:18:31.260 I don't believe for a second this was about taking out nuclear facilities.

01:18:35.900 No.

01:18:36.120 It was China who had just rolled in a train 10 days earlier.

01:18:40.940 The whole Belt and Road project is going through Iran.

01:18:44.100 You know, it's a very strategic location to have, you know, have the Belt and Road coming into Iran and moving out.

01:18:50.900 And then, of course, their oil and stuff is going back to China.

01:18:54.420 It was a, stop, Bricks.

01:18:56.220 You're not going to do this.

01:18:57.660 That's not happening.

01:18:58.940 And if we don't do that, then we might be, China might run stuff.

01:19:03.740 Or Russia.

01:19:04.680 And I don't think we want that.

01:19:06.260 You know, they don't.

01:19:07.020 Russia has more our values than people realize.

01:19:10.160 China, no.

01:19:11.300 So, that, unfortunately, is just the way of the world.

01:19:15.300 Either we're going to do it, and now the stablecoin thing, that I think, it's called the Genius Act, and there's a couple other bills.

01:19:22.360 It is kind of genius, because how do we keep the dominance of the U.S. dollar, even though it's completely fake?

01:19:29.840 It's all made out of fake stuff.

01:19:32.380 And I think the stablecoin gambit, as I call it, is going to keep our—

01:19:39.000 Because it basically keeps the U.S. currency, the U.S. dollar.

01:19:42.480 400 million people use stablecoin, and it is the U.S. dollar backed by our treasury.

01:19:47.680 So, it'll keep our dominance in the money system, but not forever.

01:19:51.840 So, it's kind of like a—I hope people realize, like, this is a temporary measure so that we don't get screwed, and the tariffs have to do with that as well.

01:20:00.120 And I'll just say, for my money, you want to end wars, you want to have peace on Earth, everybody use Bitcoin.

01:20:06.800 I know it sounds crazy, but—

01:20:08.260 No, I agree.

01:20:08.600 But I really think that that would be a big solution, and it's not for us to fix.

01:20:14.600 That'll be for the younger generation to come to that realization that there is an actual money that we all can use, no one controls.

01:20:22.180 And I think it would bring peace.

01:20:24.880 There's no reason to go—there's no way to finance your wars, you know?

01:20:29.360 Yeah.

01:20:30.180 That would be a big fix.

01:20:32.180 So, I hope that happens.

01:20:34.960 Always great talking to you.

01:20:35.960 Oh, Glenn, thank you so much.

01:20:37.120 Will you come back?

01:20:37.960 So, it's not, what, two years?

01:20:39.180 It's been two years, yeah.

01:20:40.120 Yeah, we'll have you back.

01:20:41.200 Anytime.

01:20:41.780 I love talking with this stuff about you, because particularly from the biblical perspective, you get it, and I appreciate that.

01:20:48.160 And thank you for inviting me once again.

01:20:50.400 You're welcome.

01:20:50.780 Just a reminder, I'd love you to rate and subscribe to the podcast and pass this on to a friend so it can be discovered by other people.

The Glenn Beck Program - July 26, 2025

Ep 260 ｜ The Real Reason We're Obsessed with Epstein ｜ Adam Curry ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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