The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 264 ｜ Is Cloud Seeding Playing God？ Trump EPA Chief Reacts ｜ Lee Zeldin ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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00:01:19.380 My guest today is, well, he's in one of the biggest battles in America right now.

00:01:27.780 And a lot of people aren't talking about it or really paying attention to it.

00:01:30.800 But he's already, I mean, he's taking a sledgehammer to the EPA.

00:01:35.600 He is the administrator of the EPA.

00:01:38.140 He's also a combat veteran.

00:01:39.400 So he's probably exactly the guy to take this on.

00:01:42.340 He finished a very close second for the governorship of New York in 2022.

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00:02:29.200 You are about to hear an amazing man, EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin.

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00:03:03.140 Lee, or I should call you Administrator.

00:03:19.580 Welcome to the program.

00:03:20.620 How are you, sir?

00:03:21.860 It's great to be with you.

00:03:23.620 Yeah, I think you're killing it.

00:03:26.080 I think you're just killing it.

00:03:27.340 And you are probably, to the left, one of the most hated men.

00:03:33.900 You have to be.

00:03:34.620 Because I look at the EPA not as really environmental protection.

00:03:39.820 I see it as the way the left has built a tool to destroy hopes and dreams

00:03:46.580 and just crush business and everything else in America.

00:03:51.180 I see it more of a tool of destruction than anything that protects the environment.

00:03:57.260 Well, we've made this choice.

00:03:59.500 We believe that you can protect the environment and grow the economy.

00:04:02.780 That sounds like a really wild concept.

00:04:05.360 That's something that conservatives believe strongly.

00:04:08.400 There was this belief at the agency in the last administration that we had to choose between the two.

00:04:14.340 In order to protect the environment, we would have to strangulate the economy.

00:04:18.860 And there were these rules, regulations that were coming in, especially in 2023 and 2024,

00:04:24.000 trying to obliterate the coal industry, to move towards the electric vehicle mandate,

00:04:31.620 to impose costs on Americans that they can't afford.

00:04:36.160 And we also put a lot of weight in the law, following the law, not trying to get creative,

00:04:42.640 where you see vague language in a law that you could just say,

00:04:47.120 well, I guess that means that we're allowed to do it because the law doesn't say we can't.

00:04:51.240 And the Supreme Court, in a decision called Loperbright,

00:04:55.640 which I'm sure you're familiar with, overturning the Chevron Doctrine,

00:04:58.640 made it very clear that agencies like the EPA can't take that liberty

00:05:03.380 of just trying to come up with trillions of dollars of regulations

00:05:07.640 based off of language that doesn't even exist in statute.

00:05:12.440 Yeah, that was a great ruling.

00:05:14.960 Now, if we can just get rid of the Commerce Clause, I think we would be sad.

00:05:21.240 I want to get into all of this and the endangerment finding and everything,

00:05:26.360 but can we start on, I originally reached out to you

00:05:29.640 because I don't know what to think about cloud seeding and chemtrails and geoengineering.

00:05:36.520 And as a casual watcher of this, when they said, oh, in Texas, it was all cloud seeding.

00:05:44.140 I talked to the guy who was actually doing the cloud seeding,

00:05:46.800 and the way he explained it, there's just no way that that's what caused that.

00:05:51.240 And I just, you know, I don't even know if that can be done to cause something like that.

00:05:56.500 Maybe it can.

00:05:57.700 I know China is doing all kinds of cloud seeding and geoengineering.

00:06:02.580 Geoengineering really scares me because it seems like we're starting to play God a bit.

00:06:07.440 And I see the videos of chemtrails, you know, that are coming out,

00:06:12.440 and I think this is part of geoengineering.

00:06:14.520 You know, the farmers over in England are saying, look at the skies,

00:06:18.000 and now it's going to be cloudy in 30 minutes, and it's cloudy.

00:06:21.380 And, you know, they were having all kinds of problems.

00:06:24.540 Can you tell me what's true and what's not?

00:06:26.760 So when I first got confirmed, I sat down here at the agency with people and told them everything that I can know,

00:06:38.360 everything that this agency knows about these topics, I want us to communicate with the public.

00:06:44.040 Everything that I know as the EPA administrator should be communicated transparently with the American public,

00:06:49.700 whatever the answer is, wherever the facts lie.

00:06:52.320 We posted last month on the EPA website, epa.gov slash geoengineering,

00:06:59.800 a lot of the answers I received on this topic.

00:07:03.560 And there has been government funding that's gone towards some of these efforts.

00:07:10.640 There are entities and people who would want to drastically scale these activities up.

00:07:17.040 I agree with you, with your concern, just with the idea of playing God.

00:07:24.320 The solar radiation modification, stratospheric aerosol injection, marine cloud brightening.

00:07:32.140 There are these activities to make changes to the stratosphere or the lower atmosphere

00:07:38.120 and try to deflect sun rays from hitting the earth to instead send it back into space.

00:07:47.460 And, you know, in the case of stratospheric aerosol injection,

00:07:51.900 you're talking about putting sulfur dioxide, a lot of it for a long time, into the upper atmosphere,

00:07:58.020 which, by the way, turns into acid rain.

00:08:01.540 There are real health concerns with regards to these activities.

00:08:06.660 And it's not like, you know, it's thoroughly studied, it's approved, it's trusted, you know, it's vetted.

00:08:15.200 Instead, you have people who just want to do it on their own, like try to get themselves,

00:08:20.460 you know, someone to hand over a billion dollars to just go dump a whole bunch of sulfur dioxide

00:08:24.820 into the stratosphere.

00:08:26.600 And no, that doesn't sound good, it doesn't sound right, and it shouldn't happen.

00:08:33.340 No, no, it doesn't sound, you know, I always, I come back to when I was a kid,

00:08:39.060 they were worried about global cooling.

00:08:41.240 And there were the scientists that said we need to dump coal ash on the polar caps

00:08:49.280 because that will attract the heat and stop the impending ice age that was coming.

00:08:55.400 Can you imagine if we had done that?

00:08:57.200 What a stupid idea.

00:08:59.360 There are just some things that, you know, we're getting so powerful

00:09:02.660 and we're just thinking that we are all powerful and that we have all the answers

00:09:08.240 that when we make mistakes on stuff like this now, the whole world will pay for it.

00:09:14.020 That's not good.

00:09:14.860 Yeah, and yeah, the consequences, as you point out, are grave.

00:09:19.860 And that's why there's been concern by Americans of international activities.

00:09:23.860 Even if the United States doesn't allow geoengineering, weather modification,

00:09:31.020 but we're reading about activities going on in Europe or Asia,

00:09:35.960 that same concern that you just expressed, if we do it over the U.S.,

00:09:40.680 Americans have that concern if it's done over other continents elsewhere.

00:09:44.580 So this is an international conversation in a way

00:09:49.480 because what other countries decide to do impacts Americans.

00:09:53.800 And that, to me, is a logical use of the EPA.

00:09:59.140 You know, something that is, you know, we're doing things that you just don't,

00:10:03.280 you have no idea what you're doing at this point.

00:10:05.620 That's something where the government should come in and work with other governments around

00:10:09.400 and say, hey, let's not do that, at least until we know exactly what we're doing

00:10:14.740 and that we all agree that this is the best idea.

00:10:19.100 The experiments with the globe, especially when it comes to global warming,

00:10:25.080 I mean, are we ever going to put that one to bed?

00:10:28.420 Is that ever going to go away or are we still going to just keep lying

00:10:32.280 that what I learned in school, actually, the trees breathe and then they breathe out oxygen

00:10:38.460 and we, you know, we're CO2, that it's what makes trees grow.

00:10:42.960 We ever going to get back to that truth?

00:10:44.760 I think it's based off of, it really comes down to getting to that moment in the future,

00:10:51.260 like now we're in 2025 where you can go back to predictions from 5, 10, 20 years ago

00:10:58.860 where people were giving their pessimistic assumption of where science is going.

00:11:05.300 Once you get to that date in the future, you're able to look back and say,

00:11:09.080 okay, these are the facts now that we have the data.

00:11:12.000 This is what bared out to be true.

00:11:13.520 This is what wasn't.

00:11:14.480 So six years ago, AOC was saying that in 12 years, the planet was going to end.

00:11:20.420 You know, it seems more and more clear now, six years later,

00:11:23.760 that obviously that's not going to happen.

00:11:27.480 But, you know, in some cases, when trying to institute policies today,

00:11:32.220 they're not just saying this is what's going to happen five or 10 years from now.

00:11:36.080 They'll say this is what's going to happen 80 years from now.

00:11:39.580 And they pick a date that is so far into the future

00:11:42.840 that it will justify the tens of billions, hundreds of billions,

00:11:46.720 or many trillions of dollars of policy, the restriction of consumer choice,

00:11:52.120 the impact on quality of life and cost of living.

00:11:56.280 And, you know, you have to wait 80 years to figure out whether it's true or not.

00:12:00.460 You know, you referenced earlier the 2009 endangerment finding.

00:12:04.960 This was the beginning of the Obama administration.

00:12:07.700 And they were they had a choice.

00:12:11.160 They could rely on pessimistic predictions of what was where things were going with the science.

00:12:17.040 They could have relied on optimistic assumptions that were being made as far as where the science was going.

00:12:22.580 And they chose to rely on the pessimistic predictions.

00:12:26.020 Well, the great news, now we're in 2025, we've seen that many of the pessimistic predictions

00:12:32.760 didn't actually end up panning out.

00:12:34.840 So we could deal with 2025 facts as opposed to 2009 bad assumptions.

00:12:39.900 That's a good thing.

00:12:42.460 Can you explain that endangerment finding and how important that was?

00:12:50.120 I mean, that that created a whole new industry, really, I think, for the EPA.

00:12:55.780 This ended up resulting in trillions of dollars of regulation.

00:13:00.200 What the Obama administration did was that they said carbon dioxide,

00:13:04.720 when mixed with a bunch of other well-mixed gases, the greenhouse gases,

00:13:09.980 some not even emitted from vehicles,

00:13:12.120 even though the endangerment finding was only with regards to vehicles.

00:13:15.360 They say that that ends up contributing to global climate change.

00:13:21.320 They don't say causes.

00:13:22.540 They say contributes.

00:13:24.120 You might ask, how much did they say contributes to it?

00:13:27.180 They don't say, but we know that's somewhere north of zero,

00:13:30.400 not much more north of zero.

00:13:32.300 And then they say global climate change endangers public health and welfare.

00:13:37.440 It's an extraordinarily creative reading of Section 202 of the Clean Air Act,

00:13:42.980 where they were doing things the EPA had never done before,

00:13:46.480 like, for example, justifying this as combating global climate change

00:13:51.100 or relying on certain emissions that aren't even coming out of vehicles

00:13:53.980 and not drawing direct links, instead doing these mental leaps.

00:13:58.000 And what they ended up doing was creating this new power

00:14:01.780 that allowed them to do trillions of dollars of regulation,

00:14:05.420 not just on vehicles, mobile sources,

00:14:08.040 but also stationary sources like power plants and more.

00:14:14.220 So it ended up leading to a lot.

00:14:15.860 But, you know, we were just talking a few minutes ago

00:14:17.860 about the Loper-Bright decision by the Supreme Court.

00:14:21.000 There were also Supreme Court decisions in West Virginia versus EPA,

00:14:24.880 in Michigan versus EPA, in other cases.

00:14:27.360 And there's something called the major policy doctrine.

00:14:30.240 There's this principle that when you're talking about trillions of dollars

00:14:34.400 of federal policy coming out,

00:14:38.380 it should be something decided by Congress.

00:14:40.920 There should be a debate and a vote

00:14:42.660 of the elected representatives of the American people

00:14:45.880 instead of some bureaucrat at some agency

00:14:49.080 deciding to oppose trillions of dollars of regulation on their own.

00:14:53.320 I will tell you that, you know, when,

00:14:56.760 you know, because I don't know what the correct term

00:14:59.480 to address people like you is,

00:15:01.260 and I was told as administrator,

00:15:03.020 and I'm like, ooh, because that goes right directly

00:15:06.560 to Woodrow Wilson's favorite book.

00:15:10.180 He read it three times while he was in office,

00:15:12.400 and it was called Philip Drew Administrator.

00:15:14.620 And it outlined that Congress was just too ineffective,

00:15:18.740 too slow, and they didn't have all the knowledge.

00:15:21.460 All you needed to do was get an expert

00:15:23.560 in each of these fields, like the EPA.

00:15:26.780 It wasn't in existence yet.

00:15:28.560 But you'd get an expert,

00:15:30.120 and you'd make him the administrator.

00:15:32.000 And Congress just wouldn't pass any more laws.

00:15:35.000 They'd become irrelevant.

00:15:36.580 And it would just be, you know,

00:15:38.620 a group of people who just knew,

00:15:40.960 and they would make all of the rules.

00:15:42.780 And that is damn near what we have done.

00:15:46.620 Yeah, and really, it's a principle

00:15:48.560 that doesn't belong in this country.

00:15:51.540 We should have that debate.

00:15:54.720 We should have that vote.

00:15:56.360 And if the will of the people ends up resulting

00:16:00.480 in there not being enough votes to change statute,

00:16:03.320 then so be it.

00:16:04.220 We are going to follow our obligations

00:16:06.020 under the law, period.

00:16:07.840 You know, in that 2009 endangerment finding,

00:16:10.780 there were a whole bunch of different references

00:16:13.020 to interpreting how the law doesn't prevent them

00:16:17.580 from doing something,

00:16:18.600 so therefore they must be allowed to do it.

00:16:21.880 That's not how I'm going to operate.

00:16:23.860 I will just follow the plain reading,

00:16:26.380 the plain text of the law.

00:16:28.140 And if Congress wants to change the law,

00:16:30.600 then we'll follow whatever that change is.

00:16:33.120 That is our job.

00:16:35.560 You know, here at EPA,

00:16:37.500 we do a lot of really good, important things.

00:16:40.500 We inherited a big challenge

00:16:42.680 at the start of the Trump administration.

00:16:44.840 The Los Angeles wildfires

00:16:46.360 ended up destroying over 13,000 properties.

00:16:50.600 There were 1,000 lithium,

00:16:53.620 there were electric vehicles

00:16:54.920 and the battery storage sites.

00:16:56.860 We completed a hazardous material removal effort

00:17:00.120 in less than 30 days

00:17:01.380 that a lot of folks said

00:17:03.020 was going to be impossible to meet,

00:17:04.440 but we did it.

00:17:05.380 We just entered into an agreement

00:17:06.880 with Mexico on behalf

00:17:08.980 of the Trump administration

00:17:10.100 to have a permanent 100% solution

00:17:13.280 to that Tijuana raw sewage crisis

00:17:15.420 where millions of Americans

00:17:17.520 in Southern California

00:17:18.680 are dealing with all this raw sewage

00:17:20.400 coming in from Tijuana, Mexico.

00:17:23.000 There are a lot of brownfield sites

00:17:24.480 and Superfund sites

00:17:25.740 all across the country

00:17:27.220 that are getting revitalized.

00:17:29.920 And that's all good,

00:17:30.920 but here's the problem,

00:17:31.860 is that on the funding side,

00:17:34.760 over the course of the prior four years,

00:17:38.280 they passed tens of billions of dollars

00:17:41.240 through this agency

00:17:42.460 that was so much money,

00:17:44.020 the agency didn't even know how to spend it.

00:17:46.040 And they'll use these words and terms

00:17:48.200 to build support,

00:17:49.280 like environmental justice,

00:17:51.180 and they'll say

00:17:52.480 that there's communities

00:17:53.980 that have been left behind

00:17:55.160 that need help.

00:17:56.160 And we'll say, yeah, okay,

00:17:57.360 there's a community

00:17:57.940 that's been left behind

00:17:58.720 that needs help.

00:17:59.260 What can we do to help?

00:18:00.580 But then under that banner,

00:18:02.700 under that term,

00:18:03.960 they will then get tens of billions

00:18:05.860 of dollars passed through their friends,

00:18:09.200 and then through self-dealing

00:18:10.740 and conflicts of interest,

00:18:12.080 unqualified recipients,

00:18:14.080 deliberately reduced agency oversight,

00:18:17.060 money will end up going

00:18:18.440 through these pass-throughs,

00:18:19.820 through pass-throughs,

00:18:20.700 through pass-throughs.

00:18:22.060 You have people getting rich.

00:18:23.960 The president has spoken about

00:18:25.440 the example of that

00:18:26.960 Stacey Abrams-linked NGO.

00:18:28.480 That's $2 billion of $20 billion

00:18:31.200 that went through an outside bank,

00:18:32.880 where they got $100 in 2023,

00:18:36.400 and then they get $2 billion in 2024.

00:18:40.860 And the last thing I'll say on this

00:18:42.200 is that there's just been

00:18:43.320 so many different grants

00:18:44.920 where the dollar ends up going

00:18:47.080 to an activist group on the left

00:18:50.800 to tell us the next dollar

00:18:53.820 should be going towards

00:18:55.800 remediating an environmental issue.

00:18:57.300 So you get a dollar appropriated

00:18:59.620 to remediate an environmental issue,

00:19:02.020 but instead of spending the dollar

00:19:03.940 on actually fixing the issue,

00:19:05.740 the dollar's going to some

00:19:07.120 left-wing activist group

00:19:08.560 to tell us that the next dollar

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00:19:11.640 And we're not here saying,

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00:19:17.020 We're saying that there should be

00:19:18.480 a zero-tolerance policy

00:19:19.820 for any waste and abuse,

00:19:21.280 and that's why we have now canceled

00:19:23.100 over $29 billion worth of grants,

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00:21:23.580 You're richer than you think.

00:21:26.640 Well, that's, you know, I mean,

00:21:28.700 that's why I think you're just

00:21:29.900 knocking it out of the park,

00:21:30.780 but it also makes you an enemy

00:21:32.060 of almost everybody.

00:21:33.560 I mean, you have,

00:21:34.600 how many employees does the EPA have?

00:21:36.480 This should say something.

00:21:38.060 So when we came in,

00:21:39.120 the agency was at 16,155.

00:21:42.420 We've been going through reorganizations,

00:21:44.660 reductions in force.

00:21:45.660 We're going down to 12 and a half.

00:21:47.840 So over the course of the first six months,

00:21:50.620 we were able to reduce the size by 23%,

00:21:53.480 which aside from the over $29 billion of grants

00:21:56.900 that we canceled,

00:21:58.160 that's $750 million of annual savings

00:22:01.600 to the taxpayer.

00:22:03.180 And then we're also doing

00:22:04.020 real estate consolidations.

00:22:06.440 We closed an EPA museum

00:22:08.140 that nobody went to

00:22:09.820 that cost a lot of money.

00:22:11.320 We're canceling media subscriptions

00:22:13.040 that were overpriced.

00:22:14.820 There's just a lot of ways to save money.

00:22:17.120 But you're making enemies.

00:22:20.780 I've heard that there are 400

00:22:22.740 of your own employees

00:22:24.040 that have turned on you

00:22:25.520 and wrote some scathing letter

00:22:27.880 about how you're the Antichrist

00:22:29.520 or whatever

00:22:29.880 and how you're going to kill the environment.

00:22:33.880 What is it like to be you

00:22:35.660 to walk into an agency

00:22:37.280 where you're not the most popular?

00:22:42.660 So here's the great news.

00:22:44.720 I would say that a large majority

00:22:47.780 of the employees,

00:22:49.880 a very large majority

00:22:51.280 of the employees I've interacted with,

00:22:52.980 and I engage with the career employees

00:22:55.120 every day here at headquarters.

00:22:57.260 I've been to 30 states.

00:22:58.960 So I've engaged with EPA

00:23:00.880 across all 10 of our regions.

00:23:04.240 And they get it.

00:23:05.780 You do a career inside of a federal agency,

00:23:08.160 20, 30, 40 years,

00:23:10.020 and you'll have very different presidents

00:23:12.160 from one administration to the next.

00:23:13.860 Sometimes it's a president you voted for.

00:23:16.520 Sometimes it's not.

00:23:18.600 To the point that you just raised,

00:23:20.220 we also have exceptions.

00:23:22.120 And in this case,

00:23:23.540 we had a letter that was drafted

00:23:26.760 where agency employees,

00:23:28.540 using their title,

00:23:30.340 written as agency employees,

00:23:33.260 were providing their own

00:23:36.120 very public opinion

00:23:38.300 of where the agency should go on policy,

00:23:41.300 ignoring the will of the American public.

00:23:43.380 There's a reason why

00:23:44.660 President Trump is now in the Oval Office,

00:23:47.060 that I'm here in this position

00:23:48.940 after being confirmed by the Senate.

00:23:51.140 You can't, as an employee in an agency

00:23:54.120 doing a 20, 30, 40-year career,

00:23:57.140 just always insist that

00:23:59.120 whatever the policy and ideology is

00:24:02.580 of the furthest left president

00:24:05.620 you support over the course of your term,

00:24:08.020 that whatever they want

00:24:09.720 during those four, eight years,

00:24:11.300 whatever they're pursuing,

00:24:12.960 is treated at, you know,

00:24:14.640 etched in stone like it's a commandment.

00:24:17.280 The pendulum will swing

00:24:18.680 because the American public voted for it.

00:24:21.280 The American public doesn't want

00:24:23.460 an electric vehicle mandate.

00:24:25.500 They don't want the coal plants to be shut.

00:24:27.540 They want more,

00:24:28.600 they want energy dominance

00:24:30.740 unleashed here in America.

00:24:32.520 They want to be able to create jobs.

00:24:34.280 They want us to be cognizant

00:24:35.300 of their concerns.

00:24:36.000 You know, I was just yesterday down in Georgia

00:24:39.420 with the vice president

00:24:40.480 announcing a change that we're making

00:24:42.840 regarding refrigerants

00:24:44.700 and this conversion with HFCs

00:24:49.080 that was done very drastic.

00:24:50.860 Well, you go ask,

00:24:51.940 you know, the grocery store costs have gone up.

00:24:54.440 It's harmed the semiconductor industry.

00:24:56.420 Residents are upset.

00:24:57.560 When we take action to stop

00:24:59.840 that really annoying start-stop feature on cars

00:25:02.780 or to make gas cans flow faster

00:25:05.120 or to reverse the annoying,

00:25:08.020 the terribly flawed deratements

00:25:10.320 on diesel exhaust fluid systems

00:25:12.460 or getting water flowing faster,

00:25:15.260 there are Americans out there

00:25:16.400 like none of that matters.

00:25:18.800 Why are you focusing on these little things?

00:25:21.380 Well, maybe it doesn't matter to you,

00:25:23.140 but each of those things I just mentioned

00:25:25.360 matter to millions of Americans

00:25:27.360 and there's no issue that's too small.

00:25:30.000 There's no issue that's too large.

00:25:31.500 We will do, I mean,

00:25:33.220 what we were just talking about,

00:25:34.080 the endangerment finding

00:25:34.940 is the largest deregulatory action,

00:25:37.800 the single greatest deregulatory action

00:25:41.120 in the history of the United States of America.

00:25:44.360 Collectively, all of the deregulation

00:25:46.300 that we will do in one year

00:25:47.580 is more deregulation in one year

00:25:49.900 than entire federal governments

00:25:51.780 across entire agencies,

00:25:53.780 across entire presidencies.

00:25:55.880 And we want to get it right.

00:25:58.460 We're going out to public comment.

00:25:59.800 We're not saying, you know,

00:26:01.600 to the point you just referenced from that book,

00:26:04.360 you know, we're not saying,

00:26:05.600 you know, in this perch that we know best.

00:26:08.280 We want to go to the public,

00:26:10.200 solicit your comments,

00:26:11.440 participate in the process,

00:26:12.740 and we want to get it right at the end.

00:26:15.080 But what we're putting out for proposal right now

00:26:17.760 are many dozens of different decisions

00:26:20.840 that would end up resulting

00:26:23.160 in the largest deregulatory action

00:26:24.960 in the history of the country.

00:26:25.920 And we're proud of it

00:26:27.640 because we're heeding those economic concerns,

00:26:30.080 choosing both.

00:26:30.860 Yes, protecting the environment

00:26:32.580 and growing the economy.

00:26:35.120 So we haven't built a new refinery in America,

00:26:40.060 I think, since the 70s,

00:26:42.020 because of all the regulations.

00:26:44.720 You know, we're shutting down all these coal plants.

00:26:46.760 We, it's impossible to build a new nuclear reactor.

00:26:53.140 Our grid system is, you know,

00:26:55.640 just hanging by a thread.

00:26:58.160 And we're at the same time saying

00:27:00.000 that we want to be the AI leader.

00:27:02.780 China is building all of those things.

00:27:05.300 Every week, there's a new coal fire power plant coming on.

00:27:09.920 And the one who wins is the one

00:27:12.320 who's going to be able to create the energy

00:27:14.400 and create the energy safely, I might add.

00:27:17.880 So we don't hurt the environment.

00:27:20.600 But you're taking what regulations

00:27:23.240 are coming off of coal and drilling

00:27:26.600 and mining and nuclear.

00:27:31.720 How fast can we turn this around?

00:27:34.860 Right away, this year.

00:27:36.180 On March 12th, we announced

00:27:39.560 over 30 different deregulatory actions, proposals.

00:27:45.800 We were sending out press releases

00:27:47.980 once every five minutes.

00:27:49.440 Bill Weir, the chief climate correspondent at CNN,

00:27:52.660 was on Caitlin Collins' show that evening

00:27:54.760 criticizing us for announcing too much

00:27:58.120 too quickly in his opinion.

00:28:00.220 And to make the point,

00:28:01.880 they put up a press release

00:28:03.220 of one of our proposals

00:28:04.920 on a regulation called Quad OBC.

00:28:09.760 And he puts it up and says,

00:28:11.460 look, they were going so quickly

00:28:12.600 that they didn't even proofread

00:28:13.520 their press release.

00:28:14.700 Look at this press release.

00:28:15.720 It says at the top,

00:28:17.140 zero, zero, zero, zero, B slash C.

00:28:20.760 Not even knowing what this major regulation is,

00:28:23.660 the Quad OBC regulation

00:28:25.200 on the oil and gas industry and methane.

00:28:28.480 We need more base load power.

00:28:30.400 We need more coal.

00:28:32.220 We need nuclear.

00:28:32.940 We should be transporting natural gas,

00:28:36.760 whether it's the LNG proposal for Alaska

00:28:40.200 next to the Trans-Alaska Pipeline.

00:28:43.000 It's the Constitution Pipeline

00:28:44.540 to deliver natural gas from Pennsylvania

00:28:46.580 through New York into New England,

00:28:48.680 the Nessie Pipeline into New York.

00:28:50.820 There's a proposal in the southwest

00:28:52.620 part of the United States

00:28:54.120 to transport natural gas.

00:28:55.940 So that announcement from March 12th

00:28:59.800 included a lot of it.

00:29:01.140 But the media on the left

00:29:02.840 has just been so dishonest about it.

00:29:05.040 Listen, if you want to oppose

00:29:06.160 what we are putting forth,

00:29:08.020 like, that's fine.

00:29:09.060 I mean, we're,

00:29:09.740 let's have that conversation,

00:29:11.220 but just be honest about it.

00:29:12.980 You know, when we put out

00:29:13.820 the endangerment finding proposal,

00:29:16.760 they like to put these photos

00:29:18.800 of these scary-looking smokestacks

00:29:22.160 from coal-powered plants.

00:29:23.620 The proposal was with regards

00:29:25.260 to mobile sources.

00:29:26.820 The scary-looking smokestacks

00:29:28.620 are over 99% coming from water vapor.

00:29:33.000 We're not even,

00:29:33.660 that wasn't even a proposal

00:29:34.760 about anything new to coal plants.

00:29:36.260 Like, it showed pictures of vehicles.

00:29:39.160 But, and by the way,

00:29:39.740 you can't show, you know,

00:29:41.480 the picture of anything

00:29:43.300 coming from the vehicle

00:29:44.520 because what we're talking about

00:29:46.780 with, you know, carbon dioxide,

00:29:49.000 that you can't see it.

00:29:50.600 Like, just be honest

00:29:51.540 with this conversation.

00:29:52.820 So we proposed getting rid

00:29:55.020 of the 2024 mercury

00:29:57.420 and air toxic standards

00:29:58.780 from the Biden EPA.

00:30:00.300 A proposal to try to get rid

00:30:02.300 of the entire coal industry,

00:30:04.480 essentially.

00:30:05.980 So the left-wing media wants to say,

00:30:07.960 look, they want to get rid

00:30:09.100 of mercury and air toxic standards.

00:30:11.160 No.

00:30:12.000 If you get rid of the 2024

00:30:13.620 mercury and air toxic standards,

00:30:15.480 we still have the 2020,

00:30:17.540 the 2012 mercury

00:30:18.780 and air toxic standards.

00:30:20.040 There still will be

00:30:21.020 mercury and air toxic standards

00:30:22.260 on the books.

00:30:23.220 We just don't want to be

00:30:24.820 eliminating the coal industry

00:30:26.540 with these regulations.

00:30:29.300 And just unfortunately,

00:30:30.640 you have people in Congress,

00:30:33.340 in the media,

00:30:34.160 and elsewhere

00:30:34.740 who just don't want to engage

00:30:36.180 in a fact-based discussion

00:30:37.960 on what the right policy is.

00:30:40.300 And if you can't win the debate

00:30:42.040 based on facts,

00:30:43.700 if you have to lie and deceive,

00:30:46.500 well, I mean,

00:30:47.300 I would just say

00:30:47.880 you probably lost the argument

00:30:49.200 before you even started.

00:30:51.580 So you have

00:30:53.560 these people arguing this

00:30:56.620 and trying to put out coal

00:30:58.860 and everything else,

00:31:00.160 which, you know,

00:31:01.580 if we would have followed

00:31:02.540 the plan of Joe Biden

00:31:04.260 by 2030, most likely,

00:31:07.620 we would begin to have

00:31:09.240 such rolling blackouts

00:31:10.860 and brownouts

00:31:12.040 that, you know,

00:31:12.960 you can't build

00:31:13.820 a first world nation

00:31:14.980 if you don't have

00:31:15.820 reliable energy.

00:31:17.200 I'm broadcasting here

00:31:19.020 from my mountain house

00:31:21.460 in Idaho,

00:31:22.460 and there's no power poles

00:31:24.580 coming in here,

00:31:25.240 so I've had to bring

00:31:26.040 all of the electricity

00:31:27.360 in myself with solar,

00:31:29.820 which is ridiculous.

00:31:32.340 It's just ridiculous.

00:31:33.600 I've spent

00:31:34.340 into seven figures

00:31:36.660 to have renewable power,

00:31:38.920 and you just can't do it

00:31:40.560 on a big scale.

00:31:41.580 It's just not possible

00:31:42.560 to do it

00:31:43.140 unless you have generators

00:31:44.340 and natural gas

00:31:45.340 and everything else.

00:31:47.020 And for people to think

00:31:48.860 that we can just get off

00:31:49.960 of coal

00:31:50.520 and get off of,

00:31:51.520 you know,

00:31:52.080 everything

00:31:52.380 and increase

00:31:53.840 the amount we need

00:31:55.060 for AI,

00:31:56.740 it's just not going to happen.

00:31:58.780 Are they anti-human,

00:32:01.780 or do they just,

00:32:03.200 not know what

00:32:04.500 they're talking about?

00:32:06.640 I think,

00:32:07.300 I mean,

00:32:07.540 first off,

00:32:07.940 we have to win this race

00:32:09.140 on AI.

00:32:10.760 There are people

00:32:11.240 who want us

00:32:11.860 to hit the brakes.

00:32:13.060 It'd be harder

00:32:13.640 to catch up later

00:32:14.480 than just winning

00:32:15.220 this race right now.

00:32:16.560 We need more

00:32:17.060 baseload power

00:32:17.860 in order to win it.

00:32:18.940 One of the other proposals

00:32:20.000 was a proposal

00:32:21.940 that we put out

00:32:22.660 to eliminate

00:32:23.160 something that was called

00:32:24.340 Clean Power Plan 2.0.

00:32:25.940 They're very good

00:32:26.480 at coming up with

00:32:27.320 nice names,

00:32:28.900 but they are,

00:32:30.640 the Supreme Court

00:32:31.640 already overturned

00:32:32.460 Clean Power Plan 1.0

00:32:34.500 from President Obama's

00:32:36.520 term in office,

00:32:37.760 and now we're taking action

00:32:39.740 with regards

00:32:40.160 to Clean Power Plan 2.0.

00:32:42.960 We get our power

00:32:44.320 from statute.

00:32:45.840 Now,

00:32:46.300 you know,

00:32:46.720 you're referencing solar.

00:32:48.100 The president

00:32:48.600 often talks wind.

00:32:50.620 These are intermittent

00:32:51.740 sources of energy,

00:32:54.080 and you have governors,

00:32:56.220 I'm from New York,

00:32:57.260 where the governor

00:32:58.680 talks about intermittent.

00:32:59.920 The state is talking

00:33:01.200 about these intermittent

00:33:02.160 sources as if it's

00:33:03.340 a substitute

00:33:04.140 for baseload power.

00:33:05.820 New York doesn't allow

00:33:07.340 the extraction

00:33:07.920 of natural gas.

00:33:09.300 They won't approve

00:33:10.100 new pipelines.

00:33:11.400 They won't allow

00:33:11.940 gas hookups

00:33:12.600 for new construction.

00:33:13.960 They're trying to ban

00:33:14.740 the sale of gas-powered

00:33:15.740 vehicles,

00:33:16.120 and then they've set

00:33:17.220 these climate target

00:33:18.340 dates that they know

00:33:19.880 that they will not hit,

00:33:21.660 but trying to hit it,

00:33:23.320 it will cause

00:33:23.900 extreme pain,

00:33:25.120 including,

00:33:25.800 as you pointed out,

00:33:26.760 those rolling blackouts

00:33:29.380 and brownouts.

00:33:30.840 So it's just bad policy,

00:33:32.240 and then they'll say,

00:33:33.140 they'll talk about

00:33:33.940 the intermittent source

00:33:35.360 as if it is a substitute

00:33:37.440 for baseload power.

00:33:39.380 And the last thing

00:33:39.860 I just want to say

00:33:40.400 real quick,

00:33:41.300 you know,

00:33:41.460 a couple weeks ago,

00:33:42.200 I was with the president.

00:33:43.280 We're in Pittsburgh.

00:33:44.200 It was the AI summit.

00:33:45.740 $92 billion getting announced

00:33:47.740 for the Keystone State

00:33:48.760 in Pennsylvania,

00:33:49.300 and I'm sitting there

00:33:50.760 listening to it,

00:33:51.960 thinking,

00:33:52.600 this entire announcement,

00:33:54.460 $100 billion,

00:33:55.160 $200 billion could be

00:33:57.020 getting announced

00:33:57.940 for a state like New York,

00:33:59.460 but because of the policies

00:34:01.320 coming out of that state capital,

00:34:04.460 the investment is not being made,

00:34:06.580 but fortunately,

00:34:07.940 the investment into the trillions

00:34:09.760 is being made elsewhere

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00:35:43.020 when we,

00:35:44.880 I've got so many questions

00:35:47.100 on this.

00:35:47.580 Let me start with this.

00:35:48.620 It really bothers me

00:35:49.940 that we've never been able

00:35:52.520 to even talk about

00:35:53.300 nuclear energy.

00:35:54.040 I've been a fan

00:35:54.600 of nuclear energy forever.

00:35:56.340 It's the cleanest,

00:35:57.420 it's the safest form

00:35:58.520 of energy man has ever,

00:35:59.860 ever done.

00:36:00.720 It's 100% reliable.

00:36:02.640 It is baseload power.

00:36:04.660 It works in France.

00:36:06.780 So why we can't do it here.

00:36:10.060 And,

00:36:10.400 you know,

00:36:11.140 the coal plants,

00:36:12.560 the nuclear power plants,

00:36:14.200 any kind of plant

00:36:15.460 to create energy

00:36:16.340 for people

00:36:17.320 was just a no-go zone.

00:36:20.060 But all of a sudden,

00:36:21.400 Silicon Valley says,

00:36:22.640 do you know how much energy

00:36:23.600 we need

00:36:24.300 for the,

00:36:25.940 for the AI plants?

00:36:27.740 And all of a sudden,

00:36:29.260 oh,

00:36:29.760 you don't hear anything

00:36:30.680 from the left.

00:36:31.520 Oh,

00:36:31.720 they're,

00:36:31.920 they're fine.

00:36:32.420 We,

00:36:32.660 well,

00:36:32.800 we got to do this.

00:36:33.800 All the people

00:36:34.640 that have been preaching

00:36:35.380 this to us now,

00:36:36.600 now that Silicon Valley

00:36:37.920 needs that power,

00:36:39.380 now it's okay.

00:36:40.300 We have to do it.

00:36:41.300 And I know it comes

00:36:42.380 from the left

00:36:42.960 and the right on this,

00:36:43.860 but at least the right

00:36:44.700 is consistent.

00:36:45.560 We've never had a problem

00:36:46.440 with these things.

00:36:49.200 How,

00:36:49.780 how do we,

00:36:51.300 when do we break ground

00:36:52.760 on some of these power plants

00:36:54.520 like nuclear energy?

00:36:55.860 And when can we turn them on,

00:36:57.820 do you think?

00:37:00.040 Yeah,

00:37:00.560 I mean,

00:37:00.720 there have been so many

00:37:02.000 announcements

00:37:02.920 that have been made

00:37:03.880 since President Trump

00:37:04.960 was sworn in,

00:37:05.700 in January,

00:37:06.440 of these massive,

00:37:08.300 not just multi-billion

00:37:10.540 or tens of billions,

00:37:11.500 in some case,

00:37:12.280 hundreds of billions

00:37:13.260 of dollars

00:37:13.780 that companies

00:37:14.660 are investing.

00:37:16.520 They want to,

00:37:17.320 many of them want to

00:37:18.480 have data centers

00:37:20.180 powering their own site.

00:37:21.940 Some are talking

00:37:22.800 small with nuclear.

00:37:24.840 You have

00:37:25.500 states

00:37:26.200 and others

00:37:27.320 talking about

00:37:27.980 going big

00:37:28.680 with nuclear.

00:37:30.020 Here's the message

00:37:31.160 from the Trump EPA.

00:37:33.020 We,

00:37:33.500 we want to get

00:37:34.360 this stuff approved

00:37:35.360 and we want to get

00:37:35.900 approved as quickly

00:37:36.640 as possible.

00:37:37.140 We have the power

00:37:38.080 to gum up the works.

00:37:39.820 We also have the power

00:37:40.760 to get things

00:37:41.760 fast-tracked.

00:37:43.280 We,

00:37:43.540 we can help

00:37:44.120 with permitting.

00:37:45.240 We can help

00:37:45.800 with cooperative federalism.

00:37:47.020 We want to work

00:37:47.640 with states

00:37:48.040 and local governments.

00:37:49.480 We can assist

00:37:50.000 with siting,

00:37:51.180 including on,

00:37:51.880 on top of

00:37:53.420 Superfund sites

00:37:54.340 and brownfield sites.

00:37:55.820 There's so many ways

00:37:56.960 that the EPA can help.

00:37:58.760 You've had these

00:37:59.440 announcements

00:37:59.900 that have been made

00:38:00.900 into the trillions

00:38:02.140 of dollars

00:38:02.860 of all these companies

00:38:04.180 that want to make

00:38:05.140 the investment.

00:38:06.440 We are here to help.

00:38:08.000 President Trump

00:38:08.800 during the,

00:38:10.300 during his transition

00:38:11.520 was at the New York

00:38:12.160 Stock Exchange

00:38:12.820 ringing the opening bell

00:38:14.020 and he said,

00:38:15.820 when,

00:38:16.700 when Lisa,

00:38:17.300 this is before I was confirmed,

00:38:18.440 this is before he was

00:38:19.160 sworn back in,

00:38:20.300 he said,

00:38:20.620 when Lee Zeldin's

00:38:21.340 the administrator of EPA,

00:38:22.440 he will approve

00:38:23.100 all requests

00:38:23.860 for new nuclear sites

00:38:25.860 within one week.

00:38:27.700 And,

00:38:27.820 so we start getting

00:38:29.060 these,

00:38:29.380 we start getting

00:38:30.360 these media requests

00:38:31.540 in right away.

00:38:32.340 I was with the president

00:38:33.060 for the whole day.

00:38:34.300 The first request

00:38:35.080 comes in,

00:38:35.620 very serious questions,

00:38:37.000 wanting to know

00:38:37.420 how we're going to approve

00:38:38.360 new nuclear sites

00:38:39.760 in one week.

00:38:41.320 And the president,

00:38:42.700 you know,

00:38:42.940 he was like volunteering

00:38:44.380 there as,

00:38:45.300 you know,

00:38:45.520 as communications director

00:38:46.540 for a minute.

00:38:47.640 He says,

00:38:48.240 you know,

00:38:48.600 remind them that I was,

00:38:50.000 I was kidding around

00:38:50.880 when I said one week

00:38:52.040 and tell them

00:38:53.120 you'll get it done

00:38:53.980 and tell them

00:38:54.720 you'll get it done

00:38:55.160 in two weeks.

00:38:56.920 The point is,

00:38:58.240 we are going to move

00:39:00.200 as fast as humanly possible.

00:39:02.400 And then the other piece

00:39:03.340 that's helping

00:39:03.900 to get this stuff done

00:39:05.020 as quickly as we can

00:39:06.600 is that President Trump

00:39:07.980 created a National Energy

00:39:09.300 Dominance Council

00:39:10.240 chaired by Doug Burgum,

00:39:12.240 Secretary of Interior,

00:39:13.440 Vice Chair is Chris Wright,

00:39:15.380 the Secretary of Energy.

00:39:17.260 You have Howard Lutnick,

00:39:19.120 Secretary of Commerce,

00:39:20.000 multiple agencies

00:39:21.120 working together.

00:39:22.700 And instead of each of us

00:39:23.780 being siloed off,

00:39:26.480 we're all working together,

00:39:27.840 agencies working together

00:39:28.980 at once

00:39:29.560 to make the process

00:39:30.840 as efficient as we can

00:39:32.280 so that someone

00:39:33.400 who wants to invest

00:39:34.520 and they're seeking a permit,

00:39:36.140 they don't get 15 months

00:39:37.480 down the road

00:39:38.280 and then they're getting

00:39:39.480 denied for something.

00:39:40.720 They're like,

00:39:40.980 hey,

00:39:41.080 why don't you give us

00:39:41.680 a heads up 15 months ago

00:39:43.360 that we were going this way?

00:39:44.500 But we need to go

00:39:45.240 one step further.

00:39:46.660 As far as permitting reform

00:39:48.220 goes in this country,

00:39:49.220 the one big beautiful bill

00:39:50.760 was passed and signed into law.

00:39:52.740 Congress might be thinking

00:39:53.680 about what's next.

00:39:55.220 I'll give you three principles

00:39:56.480 that would be great

00:39:57.600 to guide a permitting reform bill.

00:39:59.880 Permits should take less time,

00:40:01.780 cost less money,

00:40:02.600 and have more certainty.

00:40:03.880 And if you're checking

00:40:04.780 those three boxes,

00:40:05.920 that will only further ramp up

00:40:08.440 the amount of investment,

00:40:09.620 the pace,

00:40:10.520 and the amount of new projects

00:40:12.000 that will get built

00:40:12.580 across this country.

00:40:13.300 But no matter what,

00:40:14.080 we're here to help

00:40:14.600 to get done as fast

00:40:15.420 as we can at EPA.

00:40:17.020 So do you have an idea

00:40:19.060 of when the shovel

00:40:20.380 will go in

00:40:21.080 for a new power plant?

00:40:24.400 Yeah,

00:40:24.960 for sure.

00:40:26.200 I mean,

00:40:26.420 it's going on all across

00:40:27.920 the country

00:40:28.680 with different projects

00:40:29.780 at different timelines

00:40:31.480 over the course of months

00:40:34.740 and years ahead.

00:40:36.880 There's going to be

00:40:37.440 a whole lot of groundbreaking

00:40:38.640 and ribbon cutting

00:40:40.360 with power plants

00:40:41.700 coming online

00:40:42.420 with small projects

00:40:44.400 that will be done

00:40:46.620 to power a particular site,

00:40:49.200 a particular company.

00:40:50.400 They might have extra power

00:40:52.000 that they're able to put

00:40:53.040 into a grid.

00:40:55.100 But you have companies

00:40:56.400 all across the entire country

00:40:58.100 breaking ground.

00:40:59.920 In some cases,

00:41:00.800 we're talking about months.

00:41:02.260 In other cases,

00:41:02.860 we're talking about years.

00:41:04.480 But this isn't something

00:41:05.660 that is a conversation

00:41:07.180 for post-Trump presidency.

00:41:10.460 This is something

00:41:11.420 that we're going to be able

00:41:12.740 to celebrate progress on

00:41:14.580 throughout the Trump presidency.

00:41:17.140 Lee,

00:41:17.900 you have set

00:41:20.140 four new priorities

00:41:21.380 for the EPA.

00:41:22.960 And they are

00:41:23.940 energy dominance.

00:41:25.440 I think we covered that.

00:41:27.140 Permitting.

00:41:28.000 Streamlining all permitting.

00:41:30.180 We've just covered that.

00:41:31.580 AI energy.

00:41:33.020 We did that.

00:41:33.660 The last one is

00:41:35.400 auto jobs restoration.

00:41:37.920 What does it mean

00:41:38.980 to restore auto jobs

00:41:40.620 and how is that

00:41:41.520 the purview of the EPA?

00:41:45.360 I'm so happy that you asked.

00:41:47.480 So when we were confirmed

00:41:49.620 shortly thereafter,

00:41:51.500 we sent three Biden EPA waivers

00:41:55.060 to Congress for review

00:41:56.700 that were given

00:41:58.200 to the state of California

00:41:59.820 that California used

00:42:01.960 for the state-level

00:42:04.060 electric vehicle mandate

00:42:05.380 and other tailpipe emissions

00:42:07.440 that a whole bunch

00:42:09.160 of other states

00:42:10.280 had then signed on to.

00:42:12.440 So California's

00:42:13.540 state-level

00:42:14.360 tailpipe emissions

00:42:16.120 weren't just California.

00:42:18.500 A whole bunch

00:42:19.180 of other states

00:42:19.740 signed on.

00:42:20.440 So now you have

00:42:21.020 two different standards

00:42:22.200 throughout the country.

00:42:23.600 Congress reviewed it

00:42:24.480 and they passed

00:42:25.380 the Congressional Review Act

00:42:26.680 on all three of the waivers

00:42:27.800 to get rid of the waivers

00:42:29.580 which President Trump signed.

00:42:31.860 So those waivers are gone,

00:42:33.540 which means that

00:42:34.160 California's proposal

00:42:36.060 policy for that

00:42:38.000 electric vehicle mandate

00:42:39.040 and the other tailpipe

00:42:39.860 emissions are gone.

00:42:41.480 You and I were talking

00:42:42.740 about the endangerment

00:42:44.220 finding a little earlier.

00:42:45.980 The proposal wasn't just

00:42:47.680 about a reconsideration

00:42:49.020 of the 2009

00:42:49.800 endangerment finding.

00:42:50.800 The proposal also includes

00:42:53.000 a rescission

00:42:54.400 of all of the

00:42:55.640 greenhouse gas regulations

00:42:57.600 that followed

00:42:58.600 regarding light,

00:42:59.980 medium,

00:43:00.400 and heavy-duty vehicles.

00:43:02.340 Earlier on,

00:43:03.140 we were talking about

00:43:04.020 reversing

00:43:04.880 the diesel exhaust

00:43:07.160 fluid system

00:43:08.320 deratement.

00:43:09.620 So we made that

00:43:10.740 announcement in Iowa

00:43:11.820 about a week,

00:43:13.060 a week and a half ago.

00:43:15.140 Earlier on,

00:43:16.140 I was talking about

00:43:16.780 changing

00:43:17.240 what is the

00:43:18.360 off-cycle credit

00:43:19.460 that car manufacturers

00:43:21.080 were using

00:43:22.200 to put that annoying

00:43:23.440 start-stop feature

00:43:24.520 in cars.

00:43:25.660 Well,

00:43:25.820 the endangerment

00:43:26.560 finding reconsideration

00:43:28.260 includes

00:43:29.020 getting rid of

00:43:30.680 that start-stop feature

00:43:32.800 in those vehicles.

00:43:33.820 So there's a lot

00:43:34.680 that EPA does

00:43:35.820 in the space

00:43:36.920 of auto manufacturing

00:43:39.280 with jobs,

00:43:40.740 lower-cost vehicles,

00:43:42.860 diesel engines

00:43:44.020 for heavy-duty vehicles,

00:43:46.320 trucks, pickups,

00:43:48.220 tractors

00:43:48.940 for our farmers.

00:43:50.480 We want to get

00:43:51.260 all of these equipment,

00:43:52.620 all this equipment,

00:43:53.560 all these vehicles

00:43:54.300 operating better,

00:43:55.180 more efficiently,

00:43:55.840 more cost-effective.

00:43:57.700 Last question.

00:43:59.160 You know,

00:43:59.440 it took FDR

00:44:00.320 four terms

00:44:01.400 to really

00:44:03.940 completely

00:44:04.620 change the nation.

00:44:06.040 I asked Donald Trump

00:44:06.940 before the election,

00:44:08.740 I said,

00:44:09.060 can we get enough

00:44:10.160 done in four years?

00:44:11.240 He said,

00:44:11.740 no.

00:44:12.760 He said,

00:44:13.500 but I think

00:44:14.420 you'll see

00:44:15.640 how fast

00:44:16.340 we're going to move.

00:44:17.080 He said,

00:44:17.880 but I think

00:44:18.300 we actually need

00:44:19.040 12 years

00:44:19.980 to actually

00:44:20.920 turn this

00:44:21.940 ship

00:44:23.520 and go in

00:44:24.840 another direction.

00:44:25.940 You think

00:44:26.500 that's a fair

00:44:27.340 timetable

00:44:28.440 that we would need

00:44:29.300 two more

00:44:30.680 administrations

00:44:31.640 plus this one?

00:44:34.040 Well,

00:44:34.620 listen,

00:44:34.960 I would defer

00:44:35.920 to how much time

00:44:37.780 other agencies

00:44:39.160 would need,

00:44:40.660 how much time

00:44:41.240 Congress needs,

00:44:42.860 how much time

00:44:44.160 future presidents

00:44:45.740 would need

00:44:46.520 to get certain

00:44:47.160 things done.

00:44:47.880 I will tell you,

00:44:49.440 speaking for the EPA,

00:44:51.840 is that we are

00:44:52.840 going to get

00:44:53.640 everything done

00:44:55.600 here over the course

00:44:56.900 of the first year

00:44:57.780 to year and a half.

00:44:59.800 That's been the biggest

00:45:00.680 surprise and shock

00:45:02.460 that I had

00:45:03.500 coming into the position

00:45:04.460 is how much

00:45:06.160 we're able

00:45:06.600 to do it once.

00:45:08.040 We have a lot

00:45:08.860 of bandwidth.

00:45:09.520 We have a great team.

00:45:10.860 And I thought

00:45:11.640 that my team

00:45:12.640 was going to tell me,

00:45:14.000 all right,

00:45:14.180 we're going to do

00:45:14.740 these few things first

00:45:16.260 and then a few months

00:45:17.440 later we're going to

00:45:18.060 start these next few

00:45:18.960 things and by the end

00:45:20.300 of four years

00:45:21.160 we'll get through

00:45:22.160 70% of the agenda

00:45:23.780 and hopefully

00:45:25.080 things work out

00:45:26.120 November 28

00:45:27.000 and we can finish

00:45:27.980 with the next

00:45:28.940 administration.

00:45:30.200 At the EPA,

00:45:32.180 despite all,

00:45:33.980 everything that we

00:45:34.540 inherited and

00:45:35.140 everything that needed

00:45:35.840 to get fixed,

00:45:37.240 I don't have anything

00:45:38.680 on my calendar

00:45:39.960 that we are waiting

00:45:41.440 for year three

00:45:42.380 or year four

00:45:43.240 to get done.

00:45:44.380 Everything is

00:45:45.700 year one,

00:45:46.980 except for a few

00:45:48.400 things that spill

00:45:49.400 into year two

00:45:50.560 for a very good

00:45:51.700 reason that I already

00:45:52.660 pressure tested

00:45:53.700 timelines on.

00:45:55.000 My goal is to

00:45:56.120 fix everything

00:45:57.460 out of the gate.

00:46:00.320 Quite ambitious.

00:46:01.520 I will tell you,

00:46:02.440 I was so disappointed

00:46:03.460 when you didn't win

00:46:04.460 in New York.

00:46:05.580 You weren't the

00:46:05.980 governor of New York.

00:46:06.700 That would have

00:46:06.940 solved a lot of

00:46:07.420 problems.

00:46:08.040 But God works

00:46:08.720 in mysterious ways

00:46:09.560 and I am thrilled

00:46:10.460 that you are at

00:46:11.420 the EPA.

00:46:12.100 You're killing it.

00:46:13.020 Thank you so much.

00:46:13.620 Thanks, Glenn.

00:46:19.860 Just a reminder,

00:46:21.240 I'd love you to

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00:46:39.560 Thank you.

00:46:41.420 Thank you.

00:46:41.800 Thank you.

00:46:42.980 Well,

00:46:43.880 thank you.

The Glenn Beck Program - August 23, 2025

Ep 264 ｜ Is Cloud Seeding Playing God？ Trump EPA Chief Reacts ｜ Lee Zeldin ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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