Ep 265 | 'You're Going to See Indictments': Russiagate Walls Closing In | Sen. Eric Schmitt | The Glenn Beck Podcast
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Sen. Eric Schmidt (D-Missouri) joins Glenn Beck to discuss his new book, "The Last Line of Defense: How to Beat the Left in Court." They also discuss the ongoing Russiagate investigation, and why it's so important to hold those responsible accountable.
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Coming to a conference today was really eye-opening to see that there's more people like Allie.
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Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
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Those are the powerful words of Dr. Martin Luther King.
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And they underscore the urgent need for accountability because without holding wrongdoers responsible, injustice doesn't just persist.
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And we've seen our government weaponized by the left, actors, the people who are launching Russiagate, baseless indictments against Donald Trump, relentless lawfare against, you know, ordinary citizens and ordinary supporters and all walks of life.
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Today's guest has been there from the very beginning.
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They've been on the front lines of fighting some of these battles.
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He sued the Biden administration 25 times, literally wrote the book on using the law to fight back.
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It's called The Last Line of Defense, How to Beat the Left in Court.
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Now, as a U.S. senator, he is focused on delivering justice from everything we've all been demanding, Russiagate prosecutions to deep state reforms to COVID and Fauci.
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We talk a lot about that in today's podcast today.
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Let me introduce you to a good friend and I think a real warrior on the Glenn Beck podcast, Senator Eric Schmidt.
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I was so excited to just hear all the women that have been on Allie's podcast.
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What they're doing, what Allie Beth is doing, huge fan.
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I knew that there are women, women in my audience who are hungry for the truth.
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Before the foundations of the world, God prepared you to be a woman.
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Join Allie Beth Stuckey for Share the Arrows in Dallas, Texas.
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Nothing I tell you today will impact you more than the things that I tell my children every day.
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We are women who need to be challenged, who are willing to swim upstream.
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Christianity means nothing if truth is not real.
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I'm excited to talk to you about your book because it is, you're taking us into the inside
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of what you've already seen and then kind of laying the groundwork for what needs to be done.
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Because, you know, as you and I have talked about before, there's real frustration in America
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that there doesn't seem to be any action happening, you know, an arrest of bad guys.
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For instance, this weekend, everybody's going back and forth.
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Why was John Bolton, you know, why did they go in and search his place?
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One is that, you remember, he wrote that tell-all book about his time as the National Security Advisor.
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And, you know, again, some of this is conjecture.
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There's classified documents that were utilized for that.
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And whether he has them in his possession or not is my guess what they're looking for.
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Also, I can tell you that in just an experience as a prosecutor, that kind of thing happens
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very late in the investigation, where they're looking to corroborate things that they already
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have or missing a few things that they're looking for.
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But I also know this investigation has been going on for a while, including under the Biden
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This is, I think, just a guy who probably, you know, he has an enormous ego and has access
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to a lot of classified documents and was probably pretty sloppy about it.
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And that's probably what the Bolton stuff's about.
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So interestingly, I know the left, the Washington Post has an editorial today about, oh, my gosh,
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this is lawfare now against a political opponent.
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Because I think Bolton, in and of himself, independent of the Russiagate stuff, that Bolton
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And that's what the raid on his home is all about.
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And I also know that this investigation about Bolton predates Trump 47.
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So, you know, what that tells me is that Bolton was sloppy about all this, and he's got a big
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mouth, as everyone can kind of observe, and that that caught up to him.
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I mean, they haven't, he's not been charged with anything yet.
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But when you're doing something like they just did, that's usually pretty late in the
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Yeah, when you talk about Russiagate, this is one, you know, I was on your radio show
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last week talking about the book, Last Line of Defense, How to Beat the Left in Court.
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You're great to have me on to talk about those fights, and we can talk more about those too.
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But if you want to kind of understand, this is why the Russiagate, I think it's such a
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fulcrum for all of the things that happened over the next eight years, really, is because
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It gave the left Democrats license to make Donald Trump into something that he never
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All of these things, even Hillary Clinton, after she lost, called him an illegitimate president.
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And it all stemmed, we know now, when Tulsi Gabbard declassified those documents a couple
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We also know why they were so hellbent on President Trump never getting back in office.
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We know why they didn't want Tulsi Gabbard in that position.
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All these sort of like, you know, reformers and disruptors that would be in administration
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Um, that's why they, they don't want him there.
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It's why, by the way, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, who was a plaintiff in my Missouri versus Biden
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censorship lawsuit, as a guy Fauci tried to destroy because he talked about natural immunity.
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So, so we're a very, very interesting time historically.
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And I think you, you put this stuff in context as well as anybody, Glenn, it's easy to, and I'll
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get back to the Russiagate thing in a sec, but it's easy to kind of like, um, look at all
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of this stuff as a, as a new news cycle and something new and you move on.
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So we all know now that a Soros funded organization worked with the Hillary Clinton campaign to
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distract from her email problem and create a narrative that President Trump was somehow
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affiliated or sponsored by, or preferred by Vladimir Putin and the Russians.
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Uh, was, you know, been made true or been made, um, verified a thousand different ways
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That then becomes the Steele dossier, which then through the intelligence community becomes
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And the people that knew it was false, Barack Obama knew it was false.
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The CIA director, Comey, the FBI director knew it was false.
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Uh, a guy by the name of James Baker, who was the general counsel at the FBI knew it was
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Interestingly, James Baker then, uh, becomes general counsel at Twitter during the 2020
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election when the Hunter Biden laptop story should have unfolded and it didn't.
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But anyway, so these guys knew it was, they knew it was nonsense.
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They launder this report, uh, to, to spy on him.
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And then when he wins to undermine him and his presidency, try to sideline a duly elected
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president of the United States from achieving his agenda.
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They never forgave him for going down the escalator in the first place.
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And so then of course you have the first term, then the Russia stuff is used as a predicate
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for, well, the, you know, uh, we took the deposition of Elvis Chan.
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Um, a couple of interesting tidbits from the deposition with Elvis Chan.
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One, they were pre bunking the Hunter Biden laptop story all throughout 2020.
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They, the FBI had the laptop in their possession in late 2019.
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So they're having these monthly, then weekly meetings with the biggest companies in the
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history of the world, um, and telling them, be aware of a Russian hack and leak operation
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Yoel Roth, who was like the integrity guy at Twitter, uh, said in an affidavit that he
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specifically referenced the Hunter Biden laptop.
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They're telling him, be aware of the Hunter Biden laptop.
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President Trump is the president of the United States at the time.
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So this is how, how deep the rot was inside the admin state, deep state, whatever you want
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to call it, they continue to try to undermine it.
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They continue to try to make sure that he wasn't going to be president again.
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And so that happens in 2020, that apparatus, then once Biden comes into office, all those
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folks, then just simply turn the switch on this misinformation, disinformation game.
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Now they've got the keys to the, to the, to the Corvette and they turn it on the American
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And, and it continues, of course, then when he's running for president again, um, he's
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a threat to democracy and they, you know, Jack Smith comes around the, you know, the number
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two at Atlanta meets with the white house, um, all the same day, the number three person,
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the DOJ goes to Alvin Bragg's office to try to put him in jail for the rest of his life.
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So if you put that, like, if you, if you, you and I have this conversation, like this
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seems like a Hollywood movie or some kind of coup plot in a third world banana Republic,
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And one of the reasons why I wrote the book is because we can't forget that, like we can't
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forget the things we were fighting against for four years and the strategies we employed
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in Missouri to win when I was attorney general, like on the COVID vaccine shot or the censorship
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lawsuit or the student loan debt forgiveness case, or the DEI struggle sessions, or the ESG
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I mean, they learned this from Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky.
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Um, uh, there's a, there's a check writer, Milan Kadir, who, who wrote that, um,
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the struggle against power is the struggle against memory and forgetting.
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And if you believe in this, if you believe in this Republic, it's, it's kind of an
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You know, like promote the founders were very well aware of this.
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They create a separation of powers and federalism, essentially to have ambition, right?
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So no, you know, all these things to protect individual liberty.
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What we saw during COVID, let's just take COVID for example, that we can talk.
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What we saw during COVID was I, I, I've said this, I think on your show before, I don't
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think power necessarily corrupts, but I do think power reveals like when you're in those
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That's very revealing about who you are, what kind of leader you are, what your intentions
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And in COVID, we saw, you know, people who never should have had power had way too much
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of it and exercise it in ways that I thought, you know, were, were unimaginable.
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And for me, honestly, that kind of, and I write in the book, it was this inflection point
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in my life of, I looked around and I saw the forced masking of five-year-olds.
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I saw compulsory COVID shots of the guy that's just trying to, you know, he's driving a forklift
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So we stepped up and did something, but you know, there was police tape around playgrounds
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Like it feels like a distant place, but it was here and not that long ago, five years ago.
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So I think we have to understand that and never let it happen again.
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It's, it's not that, it's not that we just have forgotten.
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The people who were, I mean, when you think of the crimes and I mean, actual crimes and
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you could call them, I think they rise to the crimes against humanity because of the
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number of people that died, the crimes that they committed doing research with the Chinese
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that they knew they were not allowed to do, but they were arrogant enough saying we can
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It's, it's okay if we do it, they do it with China.
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Then to protect themselves, they concoct this unbelievable story, destroy even more people
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while the, while the disease that they made ravages the whole world.
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If that's not a crime against humanity, what is a crime against humanity?
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And I will tell you that, um, and I, I lay it out in the book.
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We took Fauci's deposition and it was only the second time that he had his deposition
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And, you know, I write the book, not for lawyers, although I hope lawyers read it.
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Um, it's really, it's really to give your audience, like kind of an inside view.
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What is it, what's it like to be at the NIH in November of 2022 and taught and, and ask
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And I will tell you that the other attorney general, uh, Jeff Landry, who was in the case
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had a copy of RFK juniors, really Anthony Fauci in the middle of the table, which I thought
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Uh, I don't think that, uh, he didn't appreciate it, but what, what was telling, we spent probably
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the first half Glenn on the lab leak and asking him, you know, what were his relationships
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And, you know, because, you know, in 2014, the United States of America said, we don't
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And so he starts, you know, funding the eco health Alliance.
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And to your point, effectively funded research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where they
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did not have the same safety protocols that they should have had to conduct that kind of
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And then you have this, this, you know, supercharged virus.
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And for, you know, for your audience, basically gain of function research is let's create something
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That's so powerful that we would then create a vaccine to solve the problem.
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The reason why most sane scientists don't want to do it is because, um, the idea that you'd
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be creating something that probably would never exist before with the risk that it could be
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Like you wouldn't want to do that and end up with COVID-19, which is what we ended up
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And it's swept through the world, especially in the first wave.
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It's, you know, it's for most people, it's a seasonal virus.
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If you have a bunch of comorbidities, it's a different deal.
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But again, one of the lessons of COVID was we treated the 80 year old in the nursing home,
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the same as the five-year-old in the classroom, which was totally insane.
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But again, what happens when you have this kind of group think that creeped in, but anyway,
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Fauci's deposition was instructive in that, you know, he claimed to be the science, but
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then he said, I can't recall about 174 times as I recall.
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He sent his chief deputy over to China in the beginning days of the pandemic to kind of survey
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And boy, he came back as a big proponent of lockdowns.
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And as you remember, that's not what Trump's ethos was.
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That was the beginning of the divide where the Democrats would, you know, they would,
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they would, they would obsess over President Trump because he stopped flights going in
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and out of China, even though that was absolutely the right thing to do because it was Donald
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Um, and so you see this in crime in DC right now, just whatever he does, they take the
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opposite point of view, but Fauci then became this opposition leader in, there were Fauci
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candles, you know, that were burning across the country.
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So it is, um, I think I mentioned this to you last week when I was on your show, but
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it reminded me, so I ran into, I met RFK junior in Utah at the Republican AG conference.
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This, I think it was the same, um, weekend we had had dinner out there and he came and
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he had seen some of the work that I was doing in Missouri and, and it thanked me for that.
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And we, and we had a conversation with a small group and him and he reminded me of something
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I had not thought about in a long time, um, was, was the Milgram experiment, which was
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this Yale study in the 1950s where a guy in a white, you know, lab coat and a clipboard
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And there were people paid on the other side, paid actors on the other side of the wall.
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And you were being asked then to turn up the dial of pain if there was a wrong answer.
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And what they discovered was in the experiment that people would scream on the other side.
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Including screams almost, you know, of, of intense pain.
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And then the next time, nothing like the person was maybe dead and the willingness of some
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people to continue to turn that dial is, is what haunted me as he, as we were talking about.
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And the point was, man, if you get somebody in power, like Fauci, who's just spewing worse
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than nonsense, but dangerous stuff, there are a lot of people that are willing to go along
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And you also need to have people who are willing to stand up to it.
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Well, it was because if, if I remember right with Milgram, it was because of the white
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coat, because they were an expert and the person that was just turning the dial wasn't
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And so they looked at the expert and that's why Fauci kept saying, you can follow the
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science, follow the science, follow the experts, listen to the experts.
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Because if you, if you, um, cloak it in a white coat, you cloak it with authority, most
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And this experiment was done on how did you, how did you get the Germans to go along with
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And it also, by the way, and I think Glenn in, in the last line of defense, people can
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get now the biggest chapter or the, the, the most in the book, I spent a lot of time on
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We had Soros funded prosecutors, ESG, DEI, all the nonce masking, all that stuff.
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But in, in that big chapter, um, what is interesting is that yes, you have these authority
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figures and they were able to sort of cloak their, their, um, what they were doing in the
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The next phase though, if you believe in America and you believe in the first amendment, I think
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is perhaps the most chilling, which was if you dare to question it, if you dare to question
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Um, all because somebody said something as crazy, like Dr. Bhattacharya said, which is natural
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Or you know what, maybe all what we're doing with these kids, they're the, the downsides worse.
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This was the government and the government was outsourcing that to these big tech behemoths.
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And then also universities through a bunch, through NGO nexus that was doing the dirty
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It's not necessarily a foreign concept in the history of man, but the idea is that in this
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country, we're supposed to believe in, in your ability to express yourself and the government
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I mean, there was in, in, um, may of 2022 and I had seen enough.
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I had seen Saki at the podium talking about, she's flagging things for Facebook.
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And along with my solicitor, general John Sauer, who's now the solicitor general of the
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Or we're just sitting around like, what is going on?
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And then you get the whole ministry of, um, um, the, uh, not the ministry of truth, but
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And, uh, they were, the government, the government was going to be in charge of deciding
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You know, people can make those decisions themselves, but that was under attack too in this, in
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And so, you know, um, in America, we just, I think when we see that kind of stuff, we
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So I go back to, yes, we have to fight back, but nobody's been arrested for any of that.
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And remember, I described it as a crime against humanity, and you didn't necessarily disagree
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So if you don't go to jail for something like that, what, I mean, what do you go to jail for?
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And I think, look, I get this question a lot now, which is now that we're on the other
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side of the fever dream, and we are in a position now to do something about it, not
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But I think, look, for me, the first piece of this has to be transparency, which I think
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is the phase that we, like what Tulsi Gabbard did three weeks ago.
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I do believe, Glenn, I do believe you're going to see indictments.
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I don't know how in a free country you could have people in those positions blatantly lie
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and try to subvert the will of people, try to defraud the United States of America, and
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also potentially keep people off the ballot who have a First Amendment right to be on the
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Obama, ironically, because of the Trump decision in the United States versus Trump, presidential
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However, there is no immunity for a presidential candidate in Hillary Clinton.
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There's no immunity for the FBI director, and there's no immunity for, you know, Clapper
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So you've got a statute of limitations problem.
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However, a conspiracy gets you outside of that.
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Because, you know, in criminal law, a conspiracy, or if you light the fuse in mile marker one,
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and the explosion happens, even though you're not involved there on mile marker 10, you are
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You are a part of the conspiracy that was ongoing for not just President Trump's, not just during
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the campaign in 2016, not just during his presidency in 2016 to 2020, and, you know, but even after all of
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that, as that continued, I think that's the hook.
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And you have to, you know, because we, listen, we still, I still believe in a country where we're a country of
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But I also think when people did what they did, they ought to be held accountable for it.
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Let me, let me go to Washington, D.C. and the president saying that, you know, Chicago might
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Well, as I read the Constitution, he doesn't have the right to do that.
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He does in D.C., but he doesn't have the right to do that in Chicago.
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You were the, you know, you were the A.G. for Missouri.
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St. Louis is on that really dangerous city list.
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Well, let me, let me, let me sort of take the law enforcement angle of what you're asking
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The first is actually last week we announced I've been talking to Cash Patel and other
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folks at the DOJ since the confirmation process about getting help in St. Louis.
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And, you know, Cash, I think, who I've known for a while, is committed to getting people
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out of Washington, D.C. and out into the field, into the country to help get the FBI back to
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what it's supposed to do, which is to help tackle violent crime.
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And so there's a partnership now that St. Louis is going to get the largest infusion of per capita
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of permanent FBI agents anywhere in the country to work side by side with local law enforcement
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to take not not to be paper pushers, but like to actually bust up criminal gangs and put really
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bad people who are carjacking and terrorizing communities in jail for a long time.
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So, I think that's a very good way to go about doing this, and I think hopefully Missouri will
00:29:48.680
And when I was attorney general also, I was going to say, I was going to say also what
00:29:55.280
we did, and I mentioned it in the book too, but this is before the left wing loonies came
00:29:59.080
in, but we had started something called the Safer Streets Initiative, where we had people
00:30:02.820
in the AG's office, my AG's office, deputized as assistant U.S. attorneys to get around the
00:30:08.600
Kim Gardner problem at the time, she's gone now in St. Louis, the Soros funded prosecutor
00:30:12.580
to prosecute violent crime in our federal courts with the U.S. attorney's office.
00:30:16.760
So, I think you're going to see, hopefully, some cooperation with state AG offices and U.S.
00:30:23.660
As it relates to the National Guard, which is what you're asking, the president has very
00:30:28.980
different authorities in Washington, D.C. than he does in other places.
00:30:33.560
Um, and, and when he, I think when he's talking about having the National Guard go places,
00:30:41.000
the best, I think, example of what that really looks like is think about what happened in
00:30:46.680
Los Angeles, which seems like a million years ago is like two months ago.
00:30:50.500
Um, when I, when ICE agents were being attacked and assaulted, um, you can have the National Guard
00:31:03.180
Um, but the National Guard, I think, can assist local law enforcement, uh, in keeping the peace
00:31:08.120
and, uh, and let in freeing up more resources for local law enforcement to do their job.
00:31:12.280
So I think that's, that's what President Trump is talking about.
00:31:15.600
And, you know, it's amazing though, he's getting these big city mayors like, um, and J.B.
00:31:21.620
Pritzker, who's the governor of Illinois or the mayor of Chicago to take the incredibly
00:31:26.000
unpopular and stupid position, which is we don't need any help, nothing to see here.
00:31:33.560
So is there a way to, you know, I was looking up Elliot Ness, uh, you know, when I, uh, heard
00:31:39.440
this story over the weekend and I talked a little bit about Elliot Ness, you know, the
00:31:43.760
untouchables, if you ever saw that movie, but it's based on a true story, uh, going into
00:31:48.360
Chicago and, and getting, uh, crime under control in Chicago, they used, uh, you know, accounting,
00:32:01.960
Are there tools that are not traditional law enforcement tools that the president has?
00:32:07.600
I mean, you know, well, first of all, uh, you know, the, the, the constitution says, unless
00:32:13.980
civil rights violations I think are going on and there is a, like a, a gross, uh, uh, dismissal
00:32:23.320
of federal law, something, something along those lines.
00:32:26.000
Well, that seems like ice, what, you know, all these sanctuary cities, are there things
00:32:30.640
that we can do, he can do besides send in the national guard?
00:32:44.320
And one way of doing that is like, let's say you have discriminatory DEI policies, uh, in
00:32:50.560
Um, you just cut off all the federal grant dollars then related to anything.
00:32:55.240
That's one way to get at it because the Democrats have used that as an inverse, right?
00:32:58.120
Well, if you take this money, um, for a highway fund, then you gotta, you know, you gotta do
00:33:03.820
I think you gotta, but, but the difference is we're trying to pull people back.
00:33:07.220
I had her meet Dylan in front of my committee on the judiciary committee to talk about what
00:33:11.220
her plans were for the civil rights division of the department of justice.
00:33:14.580
And it was, um, it's just very exciting time because I've talked to her meet too.
00:33:24.160
And by the way, one of my guys, uh, and I'm really proud of the team we had in the last
00:33:28.660
line of defense, the book that's out, you know, John Sowers, the solicitor general,
00:33:32.020
the first four district court judges that president Trump is appointed to serve in district courts
00:33:39.400
Uh, one of the deputy solicitors, a guy named Jesus said that, who's like the chief deputy
00:33:46.760
So there's just a lot of great Missouri ties to all the excitement that's happened, but
00:33:50.560
look, that, that division is perhaps been one of the most corrupted over the last 30 years.
00:33:57.180
And so it's not a surprise to me that a bunch of them walked and left.
00:33:59.820
Um, but what they can get back to now is I think they probably need to find a couple of
00:34:05.300
scalps in corporate America too, for the effect, like overtly racist policies that they've had
00:34:14.460
in place to meet their, you know, global, um, you know, index score over the year.
00:34:25.600
I think, you know, we, I know in the book that when we launched an investigation into
00:34:29.900
the, um, net zero banking Alliance, which is now kind of in retreat, you were talking
00:34:33.980
about this probably before anybody was on ESG, but we launched an antitrust investigation
00:34:38.900
because, you know, these banks who control 40% of the capital in the United States were
00:34:44.700
They're going to be, have net zero carbon emissions by 2050.
00:34:47.300
The only way you can do that is first of all, you collude.
00:34:50.040
And second of all, you basically deny credit where credit where the applicants who have
00:34:55.200
like diesel trucks on their family farms loans and that's how expansive it was.
00:35:04.200
Coca-Cola of course had, you know, a seminar on having people explain how they can be less
00:35:11.680
So I think that, um, civil rights division is going to have a field day and hopefully again,
00:35:16.180
push this stuff further and further in retreat.
00:35:18.580
But I think there are things in, in, in motion right now that are, that are, um, going to
00:35:23.420
hold a lot of these really bad actors accountable who've done things, not just who are related
00:35:27.580
to some of the biggest scandals in American history, but even in corporate America where
00:35:31.380
they bought all this nonsense and, uh, and people were punished because of immutable characteristics.
00:35:36.860
Uh, talk to me a little bit about the Soros, you know, what you reveal in the book about
00:35:42.260
going after the Soros DAs and, and seeing all of the, uh, seeing all the, the Soros people
00:35:53.540
Well, I think I get asked this question a lot, which is what, what's the point?
00:35:58.280
Why, why did Soros, why did he kind of arbitrage the system here in, in for relatively little
00:36:05.840
amount of money elect these Soros prosecutors across the country?
00:36:10.440
And it happened in Chicago and Philadelphia and San Francisco and St. Louis and other places.
00:36:16.020
If you, I mean, if you're a student of history, you are of Marxism, what you kind of have to
00:36:23.100
have before you really remake things is, is sort of disenchantment and chaos.
00:36:30.160
People have to be kind of untethered from the traditional things that anchored them in life,
00:36:34.980
which by the way, another reason why COVID was so scary, you couldn't go to church, you
00:36:41.860
You couldn't see your grandmother who was dying.
00:36:43.720
Like, and, and if you wanted to get together with your family, you were called a killer.
00:36:52.300
And if you were on the other side, you were told to stay away from that member of your
00:37:00.700
Everything to destroy everything traditional in, in all the human bonds.
00:37:05.820
All the human bonds that traditionally tie us together.
00:37:08.160
Those were meant to be severed again, because the immense power and control these people had,
00:37:12.400
they could go on TV on a Monday morning, some County health official and tell people it's
00:37:16.520
okay to live your life or it's not, we're going to destroy your business week this week,
00:37:19.860
or we're, or we're not, we're going to let you allow people in.
00:37:23.220
And I'll tell you the other chilling aspect of that, Glenn, is that there were tip lines
00:37:27.740
I mean, 10 walls opened a tip line, um, to tell on your neighbor.
00:37:31.360
So one of the stories I tell in the book, the last line of defense that people can get is
00:37:35.100
we opened up our own tip line, but not to, not to oppress people, but to expose the oppression.
00:37:41.640
So when we sued 50 plus school districts for their mass mandates, we opened up that tip
00:37:46.460
Tell us who's actually still forcing these kids to wear masks.
00:37:49.000
We heard stories that were unbelievable in Missouri, not this isn't in New York city.
00:37:53.140
This is in Missouri because a lot of these school administrators have gone to these conferences
00:37:57.440
and they've gotten the, the slide decks and they buy into all this nonsense.
00:38:01.180
But there were kids who refused to wear a mask, who were made to sit by themselves in
00:38:06.100
isolation in the middle of a school gym on a stage by themselves.
00:38:11.520
There were deaf kids who had legitimate reasons and they can't learn anything.
00:38:16.340
And they were being told you can't attend an afterschool program.
00:38:19.100
Like the punishment that went along with noncompliance was really crazy.
00:38:25.020
And then of course, you know, with the CRT stuff, we, we opened that tip line up again and
00:38:29.220
we documented in the book, there were kids being forced to do something called a privilege
00:38:34.080
We're like, take closure, everybody in the class, grade school kids, close your eyes.
00:38:40.480
If your parents are married, take a step forward.
00:38:42.980
If your father has a job, take a step forward and then open your eyes and you look around
00:38:50.800
And think about the division that creates among our kids who are just there to learn.
00:38:55.940
They don't, you know, all of this craziness that adults, you know, they should have known
00:39:05.580
And again, we saw school boards flip because of it.
00:39:09.960
And I think by and large, 2024, in addition to president Trump and kind of the singular political
00:39:14.780
figure, the American people rejected all of this stuff.
00:39:19.280
And it's a kind of a return to common sense, but, um, you know, there's just a lot of stuff
00:39:26.420
Um, I swayed way off of your, your original question was Glenn, like, what was your original
00:39:39.040
It's, it's a, um, it's a, it's a chaos that can create it so that then, you know, they
00:39:43.760
have a chance to sort of remake society in their own image.
00:39:46.980
And I think you have to buy into, you have to understand, cause that's the number one
00:39:51.560
question that comes to me all the time on George Soros.
00:39:58.880
He doesn't believe he believes there is another system that is better.
00:40:04.840
Wouldn't be better for everybody else, but it would be better for him if it was designed
00:40:09.000
Um, and he also has said over and over again, I like to experiment with revolution and things
00:40:18.820
And so you have to understand, you just don't think like George Soros does.
00:40:23.240
I'll, I'll give you just one, one glimpse inside the book, um, where, where I saw it firsthand
00:40:28.260
in, in the summer of love of 2020, when of course, you know, you could, you couldn't
00:40:34.440
go outside and you certainly couldn't protest, exercise your first amendment, right.
00:40:39.620
Unless it was a black lives matter rally and then a riot.
00:40:44.600
And even like, remember that there were a thousand in the book thousand.
00:40:48.320
I think that was, by the way, for most normal people, that was kind of the breaking point.
00:40:52.540
They're like, why are a thousand health officials, public health officials writing a letter saying,
00:40:56.760
yeah, we know we've told you, you can't go outside and do stuff, but if you're protesting
00:41:00.820
quote unquote systemic race and it's racism, it's fine.
00:41:05.860
But anyway, in that summer and ever in your audience will remember this in St.
00:41:11.040
Louis, a black lives matter group was marching to the white female mayor's house in the city.
00:41:16.580
And they were walking through a kind of a, you know, the central West end where there's
00:41:19.940
some really beautiful homes was a private street.
00:41:22.280
So on their way to the mayor's house, they come across the McCloskey's home and Mark and
00:41:28.860
Patricia McCloskey in this famous image, of course, come out in the pink polo and the
00:41:37.320
Like they were threatening to kill their dog and burn their house down and they're outside
00:41:42.660
there and the media would like, that was unforgivable.
00:41:46.640
How dare you stand up and protect your lives or property?
00:41:54.340
So just to give you some sense of how crazy it was, the, the, the rioters in that summer
00:42:00.580
hardly were charged and certainly not to the extent that they could have been, including,
00:42:06.000
you know, there was a police officer, David Dorn, Captain David Dorn was protecting his
00:42:15.320
So instead of going after violent criminals, what does the prosecutor do?
00:42:18.840
She charges the McCloskey's, um, with, with, with a crime for merely exercising their second
00:42:26.300
And so we stepped in, wrote a brief, ultimately the case was, they were pardoned by the governor,
00:42:30.320
uh, after they, you know, they entered into a plea deal, but it just goes to show you,
00:42:34.640
there's just a very weird, um, and again, I think we're, I think it's in retreat now.
00:42:40.540
Um, but this, I, a misplaced sense of, of who the victims are in this, in this world.
00:42:47.080
Um, you know, the, the, the actual victims of violent crime are much lower on the totem pole
00:42:53.000
than the quote unquote victims of systemic racism who are committing crimes themselves.
00:43:04.280
It is publicly and it is with the general population, but these are die hard radicals who have done
00:43:21.080
I'd be like, yeah, it's a setback, double down, double down.
00:43:26.620
Well, I think the best example of that, and what, what we're watching very closely is on
00:43:32.720
DEI, like they, you know, the name that they tried to make, you know, diversity, equity,
00:43:38.660
inclusion, all these words that maybe sounds so flowery or the Institute of peace, you know,
00:43:44.980
um, which is crazy, but, um, people, people are aware of it, but that's my concern.
00:43:52.960
And what we wanted to be watched was that it just doesn't go underground and call be called
00:43:56.720
something else, but it's the same kind of cultural Marxism, but by another name.
00:44:04.820
Nearly one in four pregnancies and in abortion.
00:44:09.140
I mean, gosh, 3000 children lose their lives every single day here.
00:44:15.720
And behind every single one of those abortions, there is a mom, um, who has a story.
00:44:21.560
Some, uh, some mom who is scared and unsure, a child who never gets the chance to take its
00:44:27.000
first breath and the future that ends before it even begins.
00:44:30.240
But there is hope when women in crisis are given love, compassion, they're listened to,
00:44:34.660
they're actually helped and they're given a chance to see their child, an ultrasound of
00:44:41.680
Preborn is on the front lines of this battle every single day, providing free ultrasounds
00:44:45.360
and care to moms who, who, uh, who know, who need to know that they're not alone.
00:44:52.080
And then because of preborn, they do know they're not alone.
00:44:56.840
When a mom sees her child, she's far more likely to choose life.
00:45:00.180
We can turn the tide and then we show them that they're not alone.
00:45:10.080
Dial pound two 50, say the keyword baby that's pound two 50 keyword baby, or go to preborn.com
00:45:24.600
So let me just take you, let me just take you through this.
00:45:27.340
What was the first thing that you saw when you went, holy cow, I can't believe this is
00:45:40.080
Um, and I mean, this is not just the gratuitous plug for the book, why I wrote the book.
00:45:48.220
I, I felt like in that job as attorney general, I saw the whole landscape for the first time.
00:45:55.160
I saw, you know, we beat back the election lawsuits in 2020 from Mark Elias.
00:46:04.860
I saw the DEIs in a local school district in Springfield, Missouri.
00:46:08.820
I saw it all play out in, in the middle of America, in the heartland where the forces
00:46:17.160
were relentless and they wanted to shut down our lives.
00:46:21.140
And they wanted to force you to get a shot that, you know, that people can debate whether
00:46:25.940
you should get it or not, or you would lose everything.
00:46:28.660
You were going to have to, you have to confess to crimes of, of people who weren't related
00:46:36.940
to, um, all this stuff was unfolding and I wanted to lay it out, but to answer your question
00:46:42.360
specifically, I would say that in the Missouri versus Biden lawsuit, I had a hunch that something
00:46:50.220
was much deeper than what they were saying at the podium about working with social media
00:46:57.360
We made it, when we filed the lawsuit, of course, it was lampooned as attention seeking and,
00:47:02.480
um, a conspiracy theory, but we'd made a very important strategic decision that we outline
00:47:07.980
is we sought discovery before we sought the injunction.
00:47:11.620
The injunction of course, is to stop the government from doing something you're objecting to.
00:47:15.380
The discovery is sort of all the evidence that you would normally get later after you
00:47:19.700
get a temporary restraining order, maybe, and then you go to the full-blown trial and
00:47:27.220
When we got that first round of stuff back, um, I couldn't believe it.
00:47:34.600
I couldn't, I, this is what, by the way, this was just what was available.
00:47:40.020
Um, we know now that they went underground with private email addresses.
00:47:44.420
Um, with, with who they were communicating with, but they were, Glenn, they were secret,
00:47:49.820
um, portals created for high ranking government officials and these big tech companies to say,
00:47:59.180
They would threaten section two 30 protections.
00:48:03.500
Um, Biden's up there saying, you guys are killing people.
00:48:06.060
These social media companies, again, the biggest companies in the world are changing
00:48:11.100
Um, that kind of Leviathan of government weaponized against people, half the country is, uh, is
00:48:22.580
pretty scary and, and was, was very eyeopening for me.
00:48:25.940
And it, but I will tell you, it gave me a resolve.
00:48:29.300
When I saw what they were doing to kids and COVID and the censorship, it gave me resolve
00:48:32.960
and it's, and, and it's made me the Senator that I am now.
00:48:35.720
Um, but, uh, I wish it never would have happened, but you are always been a fighter.
00:48:41.720
I mean, I look back in my childhood and I didn't get this till I was probably maybe even
00:48:48.220
Um, I grew up prime of my, uh, childhood really in the seventies, you know, 1976, the bicentennial.
00:49:05.420
They're trying to come up with something that will, you know, revitalize the town.
00:49:09.120
My mom and dad come up with, well, we live in Mount Vernon, Washington.
00:49:13.900
Why don't we make this like a little colonial, you know, colonial thing.
00:49:17.440
And, uh, so I, I was steeped in all of this, you know, American history and also fighting
00:49:24.660
And I didn't even realize until I think my wife said it to me, I might've been 40 or
00:49:30.380
And she said, you realize you're just reliving your mom and dad's life.
00:49:36.280
You're fighting for your country and you're using, you know, all the patriotic trappings
00:49:40.080
that, you know, you grew up with and you have that same zeal for America and the same zeal
00:49:47.980
What have you found anything from your childhood?
00:49:51.160
Have you always been this fighter that looks for the injustice or is this, this just happened
00:50:01.740
When you write, when I've never written a book before.
00:50:04.640
Um, and when I wrote the book, it requires a lot of reflection.
00:50:09.440
Um, I, I actually saw I, in this picture you see, or what am I pointing to here?
00:50:16.700
That's actually me in the congressional baseball game.
00:50:18.980
Um, so I, I, I played a lot of, I played a lot of sports growing up, uh, including a
00:50:27.100
And, and, and, and I don't know, I was just thinking about that question that you asked,
00:50:30.700
like COVID was an inflection point, but what was it, what was stirred inside that in that
00:50:38.860
moment, there was no question, but I had to be a defender.
00:50:44.140
Well, when I was growing up, I played, I mean, grade school soccer, I was the sweeper, which
00:50:54.700
I played in the paint and in football, I was the free safety.
00:50:59.460
So I suppose there's something that God wired me through.
00:51:04.720
Well, nature or nurture or both to want to fight for the little guy and stand up and push
00:51:17.960
I recount in the book too, of a kid with special needs that was being bullied on a bus in seventh
00:51:24.240
And I was outnumbered, but I thought it wasn't, it thought it was unjust.
00:51:28.080
I'm sure I didn't call it unjust in seventh grade, but, and I, you know, they were in
00:51:37.840
But, but I can, I confronted the bullies and I shamed him with my words.
00:51:42.500
I mean, I wasn't afraid to throw down either growing up where I grew up in a pretty work
00:51:46.880
So that wasn't, it was still kind of an honor culture.
00:51:51.640
And I remember telling my dad about it and he said, you know, you never let anybody pick
00:51:55.200
on somebody who, you know, fault of their own has those kinds of challenges.
00:51:59.160
And then Steven, I've talked to you about my son, who's special needs and nonverbal.
00:52:03.840
And that has been only strengthened, I think, in me now.
00:52:08.440
I think God gave us Steven to protect him and to, and that's why I entered public life.
00:52:20.640
Steven was born and he has a four hour seizure and he has all these challenges.
00:52:24.640
And I kind of went through this process of discernment.
00:52:30.740
So I ran for office and then, you know, I find myself here.
00:52:36.140
I've always believed in America and the promise of America.
00:52:38.980
I suppose I've always had this kind of fighter defender DNA and through the catalytic experiences
00:52:45.740
Um, and, and that kind of in the background of to serve, I I'm doing what I do today and
00:52:52.560
I feel like I'm exactly where I should be and I'm really grateful for it.
00:53:03.160
What is it that we're facing and what do we have to do?
00:53:07.800
What are the odds of winning 10 years down the road?
00:53:10.540
Well, if you would ask me this question a year ago versus today, my answer may have
00:53:18.320
been, in all honesty, just a little bit different, but wildly different.
00:53:23.060
I will say though, that the American people, they saw the lockdowns, they saw the open borders,
00:53:36.420
they saw the struggle sessions, they saw the leftist ideology, they saw the canceling,
00:53:44.820
they saw the censorship, they saw the lawfare, they saw President Trump, you know, stare it
00:53:55.800
And the American people sat in that jury's box, in my view, and they delivered their verdict.
00:54:00.060
They wanted reform because they still believe in America.
00:54:03.100
And I think I start the book, the first line in it, Glenn, is in November of 2024, the fever
00:54:13.980
I think we were captured by something that's hard to really explain, but hopefully has cycled
00:54:21.760
However, I am not naive, especially in foreign policy, definitely a realist.
00:54:29.860
They are in retreat and they have lost, but they're not going away.
00:54:33.720
And again, the reason why I wrote the book is, the last line of defense, it's a playbook.
00:54:41.700
We stood up, we fought back, we had a lot of big wins.
00:54:43.700
But there is a playbook because they have their playbook, but central to all of it is the
00:54:49.060
courage, the courage that's necessary to stand in the arena, the courage that in the middle
00:54:54.940
of all the stuff, when, you know, most people maybe aren't seeing it the same way you are,
00:54:59.480
that you're still willing to stand up and push back and fight for the things that you
00:55:03.420
There's a lot of incentives to just go along with things, especially in my job.
00:55:07.240
It's, you know, to go to the ribbon cuttings and all the stuff you can do, you can fill
00:55:15.160
I'm doing this because I believe in America and it's worth fighting for.
00:55:21.600
The struggle against these forces and their ideology will never be over.
00:55:25.440
But I will say that I am optimistic that America and the things that we believe in,
00:55:36.940
And that is probably a realization that I know now more than ever, given some of my
00:56:01.120
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