The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 269 ｜ Great Reset Elites Are Planning a Post-Human Future ｜ Whitney Webb ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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00:00:52.620 spoke with this week's guest the great reset was in full swing klaus schwab the world economic forum

00:00:57.740 ruled the world and my guest predicted that the global elites were going to use ai and transhumanism 0.97

00:01:03.300 to create a new class of slaves now fast forward three years and it seems like donald trump has

00:01:09.080 destroyed the wef and esg in america the rest of the world is spiraling towards total government

00:01:15.920 control and ai is becoming a part of our daily lives so what's happening now where does she see us

00:01:23.040 now is the great reset really dead uh or have the global elites just pivoted and and what's happening

00:01:29.980 with um digital id which has just been uh released is that part of everything kind of spooky that we've

00:01:38.400 talked about in the past please welcome back to the podcast one of the world's leading researchers

00:01:43.400 on these issues whitney webb hello whitney welcome back glad to have you hi it's been a while thank

00:02:04.780 you my pleasure thanks for having me back on you bet um you know last time we spoke it was i think it was

00:02:10.980 right after covid you had just released your book on epstein which is fabulous um uh thank you i just

00:02:19.140 had released a book on the world economic forum and the great reset and we were talking about this

00:02:25.920 about the great reset and the world economic forum and you said that's only really one

00:02:33.660 part of this big global octopus and uh and i was so hyper focused on the world economic forum and what

00:02:44.240 they were doing i have to ask you has the world economic forum been sacrificed did we win do that

00:02:51.960 because it kind of went to the wayside but i know they're not gone klaus schwab was exposed

00:02:58.740 of course they're not right they're not gone so have they just mutated is somebody else taking

00:03:05.220 their place that they passed the tort what what is happening yeah so i would argue let's look let's go

00:03:12.780 back to what the wef is by its own description it's the premier promoter of the public-private partnership

00:03:19.660 so i think a lot of the policies they attempt to sell people through the public sector i.e. governments

00:03:25.440 was exposed and i think they've gone to the other side of the public-private partnership

00:03:30.600 um and are trying to uh market some of their policies that are uh unpopular with significant

00:03:37.940 segments particularly in the west uh you know via the private sector i would can you give me

00:03:44.200 examples i think that's what's happening uh yeah so i guess one example would be uh let's take what's

00:03:51.340 happening in britain for example with uh the so-called brit card and and digital id so obviously

00:03:57.480 there's been a lot of political pushback to that um from from keir starmer uh uh his uh intention

00:04:06.400 to uh frame this as a way to solve illegal immigration which is absolutely a ludicrous idea

00:04:11.400 madness uh yeah yeah completely uh insane and so um and then they of course come out and said that

00:04:18.700 soon you know it wasn't just limited to uh its use as an alleged work permit it would expand to all

00:04:25.660 uh facets of life um but actually um if you look at how the un has labeled or has sort of laid out the

00:04:35.820 the its plan really uh to have digital id implemented at a global scale it's not to have it be a centralized

00:04:44.120 digital id like the brick card has been proposed um instead it's meant to be a vendor agnostic system

00:04:51.300 whereby you would have different vendors um sell a digital id type of platform and so to the public

00:05:00.020 the public would see it as decentralized and all these different private sector uh partners and digital

00:05:06.300 id that they have the illusion of choice between them but really all that data is meant to be

00:05:11.380 interoperable um and so that it can all be harvested off of any of these um you know a different digital

00:05:18.460 id platforms and correlated in a mass in a in a single database because ultimately if you were to

00:05:24.940 have something like brick card for example happen you would have all of the data be harvested into a

00:05:29.820 single library what tony blair's institute for example calls the national data library um something

00:05:37.080 like that so you could have that happen with keir starmer's brick card or something else um that

00:05:43.460 it comes from i don't know five or six uh five or six different companies offering different forms of

00:05:48.400 digital id uh but all of that data could still be harvested um you know from all of those um different

00:05:55.640 vendors because they all agree to specific standards and if you look at some of these alliances

00:05:59.940 about digital id uh that were a focus during um covid for example like the id 2020 alliance for example

00:06:08.760 they were all about getting all these different vendors of digital id to agree to the same set of

00:06:14.440 international standards so that they could harvest the data from any digital id no matter who makes it

00:06:20.900 and have it held in the same global centralized database so um there are different ways to get

00:06:27.580 what they ultimately want but it all comes down to public perception so a colleague of mine who i've

00:06:34.460 worked with closely on digital id um uh for a few years now um ian davis recently wrote about what's

00:06:41.480 going on in the uk and he's based there um and he posited that maybe what keir starmer is doing is

00:06:47.020 actually a bait and switch um that to create all this unpopularity about this style of digital id but

00:06:53.060 then someone later could come in riding the wave of the discontent that this is creating and then

00:06:58.260 offer a new solution uh which would be more along the lines of what i just described which is actually

00:07:04.020 how the u.n itself and sdg 16 uh which is the sdg that includes uh digital id uh you know the road map

00:07:11.780 laid out there uh is not the same as the one laid out uh by keir starmer so in in that you still have a

00:07:19.460 public private partnership right but it would be the private leading as opposed to the public leading

00:07:24.660 um and what we're seeing come out of the uk right now is is being sold as a public leading thing and

00:07:30.100 it's grossly unpopular um and i think they're a lot smarter than people give them credit for

00:07:35.940 um i mean they're fundamentally very uh manipulative and they want us to get stuck with the same um

00:07:43.620 policy but they're very apt at selling it uh different ways and they know that they've become very

00:07:48.740 unpopular with large segments of the population um and so you know like a chameleon they have to

00:07:53.700 take a different form but ultimately the goal is to lead people to the same um type of uh you know

00:07:59.380 technocratic uh orwellian system a couple things first of all i have for years now looked at what is

00:08:10.500 being done to us with both horror and also in a way strange admiration they they are so thorough they

00:08:21.700 are so well thought out the structure of this the fallbacks the the use of behavioral scientists and

00:08:31.460 everything else at some point a book is going to be written that says look at how all of this was

00:08:38.260 designed i mean it is probably many books yeah it is it's really it's it's it's it's incredible incredible

00:08:49.060 to me how many great minds have spent so much time trying to enslave their fellow human beings you know

00:08:58.340 yeah uh i think it's because a lot of the people uh that seek to uh enslave the vast majority of of

00:09:08.260 humanity uh have a a lot of capital uh that they uh want to uh devote to this unfortunately um and um

00:09:19.540 unfortunately we also know that money can buy you essentially anything in today's world including

00:09:24.020 armies of behavioral psychologists like psychologists and any other number of other specialists um but

00:09:29.860 ultimately you know i think a lot of them are increasingly relying on um artificial intelligence

00:09:34.980 to be able to do this uh at scale and so i think um uh this advent of the era of you know ai generated

00:09:42.580 content also enables them to um you know tweak uh things faster and also to um manipulate our attention

00:09:52.100 in ways that uh you know are just really being uh discovered and maybe won't be discovered uh you

00:09:57.540 know for a long time um with you know it increasingly significant impacts on on human behavior behavior and

00:10:04.580 also on human uh perception so um yeah i think ultimately it's never been more important to be a critical

00:10:11.940 thinker and to do as much of your own research as possible and the best way to do that research like

00:10:17.700 what i just talked about regarding you know the un and digital id and how they say it you know it's

00:10:22.740 in their own documents you just have to go in and read it and not everyone can do that but if these

00:10:27.620 are issues that particularly concern you we absolutely absolutely should uh you know make make that effort

00:10:33.620 and also i think uh you know in the covet era for example a lot of people were against these particular

00:10:39.620 policies digital id uh being one of them but these people will repackage and rename and sell you the same

00:10:45.700 uh policy uh under different metrics and under a different name with a different face that they

00:10:50.900 deem you know uh you know polling shows they're more politically palatable to that particular

00:10:56.740 demographic or what have you so i think the more we focus on the policies that we don't want

00:11:01.940 uh the better off we'll be instead of the person selling it to us um and we never you know the new

00:11:07.620 buzzword that's following it around and we never seem to learn i mean this is what they did with the

00:11:11.540 federal reserve you know with the federal reserve act 1913 yeah this is what they did with the patriot

00:11:16.580 act that thing was written you know two years three years before 9-11 they tried to package it didn't

00:11:22.900 work just repackaged waited for the right moment i mean this is the way they do it for anybody who

00:11:29.060 is not truly up on digital ids and why this is so important can you explain what digital id means if we

00:11:41.300 begin to implement them yeah well digital id is really the linchpin to uh you know the sustainable

00:11:49.540 development goals as well as this mass surveillance paradigm that's being sold to us uh by oligarchs on

00:11:56.260 the left and the right it would be your unique identifier for the digital world the goal is to have it be

00:12:02.500 uh the way for you to uh offer your credentials to every service uh that you access period everything

00:12:09.460 ranging from healthcare to telecommunications your social media accounts and as things become

00:12:14.260 increasingly increasingly digitally connected you know perhaps even your appliances if they're smart

00:12:19.540 appliances at some point won't uh function without you having the proper credentials uh to show that

00:12:25.460 it's you so ultimately if people want to fight against this mass surveillance pair uh paradigm and these

00:12:32.740 efforts to usher us into into you know a very dark i would argue a technocratic future the most important

00:12:39.540 thing is to not comply uh with digital id because it's the single most important piece of infrastructure

00:12:45.860 that they need and they need us to voluntarily consent because even if they roll it out

00:12:50.980 um and people but it will fail if people decline to use it so ultimately so much effort is being spent on

00:12:58.500 convincing us to adopt it and so we need to be laser focused on that policy and say no thank you let

00:13:04.260 me play the devil's advocate that you hear every time every time we take a bad bad step towards more

00:13:10.740 digital surveillance well i don't have anything to hide i don't really care i don't have anything to

00:13:15.620 hide why why why is that you know a a kindergarten answer well i would argue because a lot of these uh

00:13:26.260 companies that are engaged in these uh mass surveillance or the contractors really that

00:13:30.500 are engaged in in mass surveillance don't ultimately have just watching what you're doing as being enough

00:13:37.060 for them they're ultimately interested in things like predictive analytics and predictive policing

00:13:43.220 so based on your behavior now and your behavior in the past they want to use artificial intelligence

00:13:48.340 to determine what you may do in the future and in the case of predictive policing that would be well

00:13:54.100 we've determined that you may commit a crime in the future and so we're going to uh you know send you

00:14:01.140 to a court-ordered physician or you know and detain issue house arrest to protect to stop crime before

00:14:08.740 it happens essentially um is where a lot of these companies well yeah uh and unfortunately it is that

00:14:15.540 and there's a lot of companies that have made um massive inroads uh in in that type of technology even

00:14:23.300 though it's been hugely discredited um there's several companies i think the most notorious

00:14:28.020 at this point is called or was called predpol they've since rebranded but they were less accurate

00:14:33.620 than a coin toss and people were being uh you know deprived of of their liberty uh because of an

00:14:39.940 of an algorithm that was hugely inaccurate uh and ultimately you know if you look in the uk for

00:14:45.620 example some of these algorithms for facial recognition have been rolled out even though they've been

00:14:50.260 shown over there too to be hugely inaccurate and there's no interest in changing uh vendors even

00:14:56.020 when this inaccuracy is demonstrated so to me that says that their goal is to have us induce and be

00:15:03.220 obedience by the fact that you're being watched all the time and anything you may do could be used

00:15:08.580 against you even if you're not doing anything wrong now um an algorithm could determine that

00:15:14.500 certain you know errant behaviors uh warrant you being added to a list of some type and actually

00:15:20.260 larry ellison of oracle who is one of the main funders of tony blair's uh institute that's one of

00:15:25.460 the biggest pushers for digital id in the uk said this at an oracle uh shareholder meeting that you know

00:15:31.300 we're recording and surveilling everything and citizens will be on their best behavior

00:15:36.020 because they have to essentially paraphrasing the fact that donald trump is listening to that guy

00:15:41.940 is terrifying to me i mean he is he has put some people around him on this tech board that are not

00:15:50.100 friends of freedom and liberty they're just not larry ellison is leading that pack yeah a lot of them

00:15:58.420 are are you know i would argue overtly and also covertly globalist um you have people uh you know in that

00:16:05.380 network you just mentioned uh serving for example on the steering committee of the bilderberg group

00:16:10.180 uh which is you know uh a well-known closed-door meeting uh globalist conflab um and unfortunately

00:16:18.740 um you know i think they've been some of them anyway have been able to characterize their policies as

00:16:25.060 uh libertarian for example uh even though some of those same oligarchs are on record saying that the

00:16:30.260 free market is for losers uh if you want to get rich build a monopoly and build monopolies uh they have

00:16:37.220 unfortunately uh but i think again this is what uh i was saying earlier about um the world economic 0.60

00:16:43.940 forum you know there's an effort to sell this uh since they couldn't sell it from the left uh the

00:16:49.780 goal now is to try and sell it somehow uh from the right uh and to try and frame it under metrics and

00:16:56.900 dialectics that'll be more appealing uh to the group that was most against these policies just a few years

00:17:02.900 ago um and unfortunately you know with ai and all of that it pretend we could happen it could happen

00:17:08.740 if people aren't aren't vigilant you know just a few years ago someone like elon musk was a major

00:17:14.100 promoter of things like carbon markets and pricing carbon for example and that was actually why he had

00:17:20.180 a falling out with trump in trump's first administration it was because trump pulled out of the paris agreements

00:17:26.100 and elon musk was like well i can't have that um so have these oligarchs really changed or have they

00:17:32.100 instead tried to make themselves more appealing because they've noticed the change in public

00:17:36.820 opinion uh and want to uh try and get you know us to continue to buy into uh their solutions uh that

00:17:44.340 they uh have a lot of money to spend convincing us are actually good and rebranding them so and again

00:17:50.340 this is why i say it's important to focus on the policies specifically how do we um well wait wait

00:17:57.620 before i get there let me go back to digital id tie this into a digital currency because this is the

00:18:05.140 this is the the highway system for that isn't it sure yeah well um larry fink is now running i believe

00:18:14.740 the world economic forum he's acting chairman and uh saying that everything yeah in addition to saying

00:18:22.100 that everything will be tokenized he's uh said that everything will soon be uh on the same universal

00:18:30.340 digital ledger or database um and that everything on that database will have a unique identifier number

00:18:37.620 so for you as an individual your identifier number uh will presumably be your digital id or directly linked

00:18:45.780 to that but everything will have a digital id uh the tokenization agenda in particular seeks to

00:18:52.980 tokenize uh not just you know assets that we traditionally think of um like real estate for

00:18:59.300 example and or or gold or you know physical assets as well as digital assets like bitcoin uh there's a

00:19:07.300 major effort uh connected with people like like fink and also people like mark carney who's now a prime

00:19:13.300 minister of canada to tokenize uh the the natural world and transform it into financial assets and

00:19:20.420 there was an attempt to do this to an extent under the biden administration i believe through this the

00:19:24.740 department of interior yeah with natural asset corporations but that has not gone away uh and

00:19:30.420 there are groups um for example one of the creators of the etf uh model originally uh which blackrock now

00:19:39.140 now owns uh i shares his name is peter kanez i think is how you pronounce it he's trying to turn

00:19:44.740 um the amazon rainforest uh into a digital commodity uh sort of similar to bear bitcoin in terms of like

00:19:53.780 the the scarcity uh idea that you know each hectare of the amazon rainforest would represent um you know a

00:20:01.140 token and then and then financialize it that way and then each hectare would then be have its unique

00:20:06.740 identifier right on on the on the blockchain and and would be you know serviced uh by surveillance

00:20:14.820 drones and all sorts of stuff so even our most like natural the places we conceptualize as the most

00:20:21.220 natural places on earth these people want to come in a place surveillance technology and you know

00:20:26.340 tokenize it and put it on a blockchain and use it to um you know i would argue in the case particularly

00:20:32.340 of natural asset uh corporations and the group behind it the intrinsic exchange group um they

00:20:37.940 just want to open up a huge new asset class they call it nature's opportunity so that they can continue

00:20:43.700 engaging in the same type of uh bad behavior that for example bought us brought us the 2008 financial

00:20:49.460 crisis uh by you know can uh can tupeling basically uh the amount of assets currently in play um it's um you

00:20:59.220 you know i had a guy very very insane i had a guy who worked uh very very very high up at uh citibank

00:21:06.580 and he told me around 2008 uh he said glenn you know don't worry about the financial system and i'm

00:21:12.100 like uh-huh and uh he said um you know we're never going to go broke i mean do you know how much just the

00:21:18.980 national parks are worth and i looked at him and said are you seriously telling me that we should

00:21:25.380 commoditize the national parks and he said it's going to happen and i wonder now if this is what

00:21:33.460 he was talking about if it was just a digital not actually selling them it's just a digital

00:21:40.900 commoditization of our parks yeah so apply this now to the the phrase that we all heard during the

00:21:47.380 covet era you'll own nothing and be happy well there's certain people that want to own everything

00:21:53.220 and that includes things that have never been able to be owned before that were considered

00:21:58.260 things like the public commons like rivers lakes the ocean itself natural forests all sorts of it

00:22:04.900 these people want to put all of that um into the financial system fractionalize it tokenize it and

00:22:11.620 sell pizza sell pieces of it around uh you know use it to speculate on i mean it's it's it's very

00:22:18.660 bonkers so yeah and so this is just one aspect of the uh the digital currency play obviously there's

00:22:25.780 a lot more than that just going on as well um i would argue that a lot of this push particularly in

00:22:30.980 the u.s um for dollar stable coins supposedly being better than a central bank digital currency

00:22:37.380 also falls into this uh paradigm we talked about earlier of you know moving from the public to the

00:22:43.380 private of the public private partnership because a lot of these stable coin issuers you know if the

00:22:49.220 concern the big concerns about uh cbdc's was that they're seizeable they're surveillable and they're

00:22:55.780 programmable well all of those three things also can apply to stable coins the only difference is that

00:23:01.300 you would have the private company issue it and control it but we've seen time and again how a lot

00:23:07.540 of these private entities are willing to do that when contacted just look at how bank of america

00:23:12.340 behaved with january 6 people accused of wrongdoing on that day for example um you know they have no

00:23:18.340 qualms in doing that uh and engaging in in those type of activities and the biggest uh dollar stable

00:23:23.940 coin issuer uh tether which just hired bo hinds uh from the white house um they have uh openly said that

00:23:32.980 they are a close partner of the u.s government for dollar hegemony uh globally and have uploaded uh the

00:23:39.620 fbi the secret service and other aspects of the u.s government onto its platform directly and have

00:23:45.940 seized uh tethers you know from people uh just because you know the government told them to and

00:23:51.700 this was during the biden administration so they obviously are willing to do that under any

00:23:55.780 administration and it's uh essentially functioning as a de facto public private partnership even though

00:24:01.140 we're being told um it's a it's much better than a cbdc but in terms of its impacts on civil

00:24:06.580 liberties you know that's not necessarily true so again vigilance is is important here

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00:25:45.300 um ai is one of the most exciting things man has ever come up with and also the most terrifying thing man

00:25:55.380 has ever i mean it it makes uh nuclear weapons look like a romper room or you know some sort of preschool

00:26:02.740 game um it is uh it is frightening in the fact that you don't really know who's programming it um

00:26:15.060 it's going to be ubiquitous it's going to be everywhere it will know everything that you're

00:26:20.340 doing looking for etc etc um uh but it is now also crossing the lines where was it was it albania

00:26:28.900 albania that just put their first minister digital minister yes into place it would be like having

00:26:38.020 you know pete hegseth you know replaced with a an avatar and it doesn't seem to be that big of a deal

00:26:46.100 to a lot of people you want to tell that story and what that means well i think people have been

00:26:52.900 increasingly normalized uh to sort of to the dissolution between the digital and virtual

00:26:58.660 worlds and that's not by coincidence so going back to the world economic forum the goal of the

00:27:03.060 so the weft so-called fourth industrial revolution is to blur those lines uh very overtly and so you

00:27:09.220 know what we're seeing here are stepping stones leading us to an increasingly uh encroaching all digital

00:27:15.460 system and and you know it it probably began some time ago um i'm sure you remember several years

00:27:22.180 ago uh muhammad bin salman for example gave citizenship to a robot and that was kind of

00:27:27.860 framed as novel but you know there's been an effort to normalize these kinds of of things with respect

00:27:33.700 uh to the government so now they're having um you know ai run the government under the guise that it's

00:27:39.620 it's more efficient it's more trustworthy and all of that but again who is accountable if the ai makes

00:27:45.620 a mistake because ai does make mistakes ai also hallucinates and uh returns results that are

00:27:52.500 essentially indicative of an ear reality something that is completely uh not true um and so who is

00:27:59.220 accountable in those cases uh can they hold the ai minister directly accountable not really does the

00:28:04.500 accountability fall to the person who programmed the ai uh it it obviously opens up a pretty sticky

00:28:11.300 uh situation but uh i would in in the case of this argue that this is in furtherance of of an agenda

00:28:18.180 that was actually laid out by henry kissinger and eric schmidt in their book um oh i forget what it's

00:28:23.940 called uh sorry about that but they wrote a couple books on ai in the earlier one i think it's uh ai in our

00:28:30.340 human future is the subtitle or the age of ai something like that um they essentially argue that um

00:28:37.140 we should put ai in charge of government because they assume they they obviously believe

00:28:44.020 that ai is a form of a super intelligence therefore it knows better than humans do and so even when it

00:28:50.020 returns these uh unreal irreality uh results we should take that as uh as a sign that it can see things

00:28:59.540 humans cannot see we should just trust that it's there because we should trust that it's super intelligent

00:29:05.460 and sort of uh you know offset uh give give it power over our lives supposedly because it's a better

00:29:13.780 arbiter uh of what's real and what's not uh than we are which is um i think that is uh just insane

00:29:24.580 also i'm sorry to keep repeating that word but it's hard some of this is really insane just bonkers stuff

00:29:31.460 yeah and in addition to that kissinger and schmidt laid out that their biggest interest in ai uh was

00:29:38.020 its impact on human perception and ultimately if you're able to completely control how people perceive

00:29:45.300 reality you control their behavior you don't need mind control at the end of the day or any of these

00:29:51.140 things in the back that uh you know the cia and national security agencies were experimenting with you

00:29:57.860 know you don't need that if you can completely control uh their perception of what's going on

00:30:03.300 and so the goal uh as they lay out here or laid out in that book uh is uh to have people rely on ai for

00:30:10.660 their perception of essentially everything um and that eventually by doing so uh people would be what

00:30:17.380 they uh the term they used was cognitively diminished to the point that they wouldn't be able to

00:30:22.660 understand how ai acts upon them anymore but that wouldn't be true for everyone there would be a

00:30:28.100 small class that is not affected that way and they would be the class that programs and maintains the ai

00:30:35.540 determines what it does but the rest of us um a large underclass would be acted upon by the ai but again

00:30:43.460 lose the mental capacity to understand what it's doing to them and that eventually it would start

00:30:48.660 determining their preferences for them and all sorts of evil i mean there is no other way to describe

00:30:54.100 this other than evil when you are taking humans who are built to act not to be acted upon and you

00:31:02.980 purposely put them into a class that you can act upon that is there's no better word to define it than evil

00:31:12.900 yeah well the term you know that gets thrown around a lot for this is post-human future but what

00:31:20.100 what is more evil to humanity than that just eliminating us and turning us into what some of

00:31:26.420 these um libertarian oligarchs called technoplastic beings i mean some of them think that uh humans are

00:31:33.620 nothing more than uh bootloaders for digital intelligence i mean that's how we are perceived by a

00:31:39.540 lot of these tech oligarchs because again a lot of their goal and they've been relatively open about

00:31:44.100 this is to live forever uh but in defiance of natural law so using technology to allow them to

00:31:51.220 uh become gods a lot of these uh tech oligarchs including like the co-founders of google uh have

00:31:57.460 been pretty uh open about that and even someone like jeffrey epstein for example who was uh very

00:32:03.380 interested in in eugenics and ai and all of that was interested in and you know those technologies

00:32:09.380 for those same ends i mean there's a a whole uh group of i would i would call them pretty sick

00:32:15.780 billionaires uh who want to use this technology uh to better themselves in that way and live forever

00:32:23.060 where the rest of us become cognitively uh um we become cognitively incapable of questioning what

00:32:29.700 ultimately is amount to slavery

00:32:33.380 we should say no i know we should think that should be pretty clear i don't know if we do

00:32:39.060 um where do you find hope in all of this so uh yeah i get asked this question a lot because when

00:32:47.140 i'm talking about these systems it's it's obviously dark and it's obviously wrong but again like i said

00:32:52.340 earlier it's i don't i don't think it's hopeless because they are spending so much money and so much

00:32:57.060 energy on getting us to consent to these policies um you can build these digital systems that

00:33:03.220 once you're in them will imprison you uh but if no one uses these systems they can't do anything

00:33:08.980 um so a lot of there's a lot of efforts for example to use them to implement them on existing user bases

00:33:14.660 of massive social media websites uh for example but if people decline to use it or people leave these

00:33:21.460 platforms or stop using these uh you know certain digital infrastructure tied to these people it will

00:33:27.940 collapse they need people what are the ones we should be avoiding right now

00:33:33.700 well i think people should do their own research uh and look at who owns what but a lot of these uh

00:33:39.060 billionaires uh you have you know people like larry ellison and eric schmidt the google guys people

00:33:45.140 like pierre omidyar who were on the left reed hoffman bill gates right and then you have you know

00:33:49.860 people like elon musk uh and and peter thiel and the the paypal mafia crowd most of them uh frame

00:33:56.260 themselves as libertarian if you look at um uh their philosophy their own words um they're overtly

00:34:04.180 transhumanist um a lot of them despite saying things to the contrary want global government

00:34:11.540 in some form uh and you know the ones on the supposedly libertarian side frame it as having

00:34:17.620 a ceo in charge of everything but a ceo that would govern as a dictator so i don't ultimately

00:34:24.100 see that as as much better given all this technology that's uh would be in the hands of this one or you

00:34:30.660 know these this very small uh group of people um but they don't own everything they own a lot of

00:34:36.020 technology uh obviously in tech in technological platforms social media um and and all sorts of

00:34:43.860 things but it's up to people if they want to continue using those services and supporting these

00:34:48.260 people uh because ultimately they need us to make their system work they want to harvest us for data

00:34:55.220 and like i said earlier they want to use us as as bootloaders for their digital intelligence and they

00:35:00.740 can't continue to improve and feed the ai without us doing it for them they can't do it alone so

00:35:08.580 um i think the more we but people are not

00:35:14.020 they're not likely to leave things that make their life easier it is not yeah well that's that's the

00:35:20.740 price of convenience isn't it and i think a lot of the effort to enslave us has been to uh

00:35:25.940 uh cajole us and uh influence us with with convenience and comfort uh but also in theory

00:35:33.780 you know prison is comfortable right in the sense that you have a roof over your head and they bring

00:35:39.140 you food um and i mean it you know a digital prison without walls uh you know could be similarly

00:35:47.220 comfortable and you wouldn't have to lift a finger to fight uh you know for your freedom but we can still

00:35:53.140 uh oh sorry you wouldn't have to lift a finger to fight for your freedom you would just willingly

00:35:58.020 walk into the system right um but we those of us that don't want to live in the system have to do

00:36:02.900 something and so i think we're at the at a at a crossroads and have been for several years uh where

00:36:10.740 those of us that don't want to uh walk into this have to actively build alternatives and if you don't

00:36:18.340 have you know uh a ton of people in your community uh doing that maybe you should reach out and build

00:36:24.260 awareness uh but if you have people that are aware of this around you um it's it's important to build

00:36:30.580 i would argue local resilient networks that don't depend on on this infrastructure there's still open

00:36:36.420 source alternatives to a lot of the um you know big tech platforms uh out there uh and i i still think

00:36:46.180 i'm still hopeful that there is time uh but you know ultimately at the end of the end of the day

00:36:52.100 you know if they're pushing us towards a post-human future i think at some point people will realize

00:36:57.220 uh that they don't want to lose what makes us human and so so much of what we're being pushed to use ai

00:37:02.580 for are things are creative pursuits that help define us as human right uh making art making music

00:37:11.060 writing um these are the things that we're being told to outsource uh to artificial intelligence

00:37:16.340 not necessarily the tedious stuff right so what's going to be left for us when we uh outsource of

00:37:22.340 this all to ai will we allow ourselves to be cognitive cognitively diminished to the point that

00:37:26.340 we can't even create anymore and then what kind of you know humans are we at that point so i think

00:37:32.020 it's very important to um encourage uh analog alternatives to that kind of stuff and to engage in

00:37:38.660 uh in creativity and uh there's a lot of opportunity for that especially for people that have uh

00:37:45.220 children you know children are very creative and we need to uh promote that to them instead of being

00:37:50.420 like here's a tablet learn how to scroll by the time you're three or four um and navigate the the

00:37:56.500 algorithms you know if we do nothing and we don't shift that cultural uh uh behavior or what's being

00:38:05.220 made you know common cultural behavior now then yeah it will be very problematic and so i think you

00:38:10.500 know it's a very important time right now for parents uh to make sure your kids are well and

00:38:16.020 anchored in in the real world and not just uh you know uh checked out to launch and trusting uh you know

00:38:23.700 potentially trusting algorithms more than you i mean there's these efforts to have domestic robots in

00:38:28.340 the house a lot of the ads show show you know young children develop developing emotional

00:38:34.020 relationships with these robots saying i love you and all of this stuff it is that is not good

00:38:40.660 i absolutely agree uh and so you know just because you want to focus on yourself or x y and z is is no

00:38:47.700 excuse to have you know the emotional connection your child needs be built with a machine programmed by

00:38:53.380 who knows who i mean so many of these big tech figures also had relationships to jeffrey epstein a

00:38:59.940 pedophile do you want to trust those people uh to program stuff uh that's around your kids and and

00:39:06.020 talks to them and you know potentially manipulates them when you're not there so you know it's not

00:39:12.020 just what that too i mean that that is the idea of taking active responsibility for things in your life

00:39:16.980 and we need to do more of that and culturally americans have been the best at that for a very long time

00:39:22.580 but we there have been a lot of efforts to condition us out of that and a lot of it has been through

00:39:27.940 this um effort to cultivate the importance of comfort above all else and convenience you know the idea

00:39:33.540 of rugged individualism in the u.s uh unfortunately has been uh you know greatly reduced and i think

00:39:40.660 it's important for us to take active responsibility because you know the the pull of ai is to get is

00:39:46.980 is for is uh for us to be passive and do nothing and just let it wash over us and uh oh you don't

00:39:55.140 have to do that anymore ai can do that and ai can do this for you and and this and that um and if we're

00:40:00.500 not uh focused on uh the things that we like to create and that we like to do um and uh active you

00:40:08.100 know we will recede and that is how the post-human future will happen there is still a lot of time for

00:40:13.460 agency um but people just need to be really aware of what's going on and determined to to change it

00:40:20.500 is there anything to i mean do you use the ai at all for anything nothing you're completely off

00:40:32.100 no i'm i'm uninterested in using it i mean i didn't i mean it wasn't always around you know i'm

00:40:37.380 i'm 35 now and you know when i was in university there was no ai i learned how to write and

00:40:43.300 do what i do now without it so why would i need it especially when i'm aware that you know

00:40:47.780 the whole idea if you don't use it you lose it so i stop uh you know let's say for example a person

00:40:54.100 who does work similar to me uh stops researching has ai do their research for them well they'll

00:40:59.140 come back in a year or two and be like wow i kind of forgot how to do this i don't remember how to do

00:41:03.780 it anymore it's gotten a lot harder for me right the same idea if you stop doing mental math because

00:41:09.060 you're constantly reliant on a calculator uh it gets harder uh that's the idea of cognitive

00:41:15.940 diminishment ray kurzweil called it ray kurzweil told me that uh no it'll just free your mind up to do

00:41:24.260 other bigger more important things and i didn't believe that's not happening yeah yeah i didn't

00:41:30.660 think it would we can already see that's yeah we can already see that's not uh that's not happening

00:41:36.180 okay so i i think people again need to take active control of not just their physical lives

00:41:43.220 as much as possible but their mental lives too and have to remember that you know uh even on big social

00:41:48.900 media platforms like uh x formerly twitter for example they've openly said that the ai grok is

00:41:54.740 going to be running the algorithms period uh come november you know so ai uh is is inescapable in

00:42:03.620 those types of environments and we have to remember that um we have to be aware that there is an effort

00:42:09.780 to influence us towards these policies um and a lot of people go on to social media assume it's uh you

00:42:17.460 know the new public square and you know free you know that it's better for free speech now and all of

00:42:22.660 that but aren't um aware that really every time you're going on these platforms it is a cognitive

00:42:28.260 battlefield uh and again this is why i really want to stretch that stretch uh sorry stress that

00:42:35.140 critical thinking has never been more important there's a reason they've tried to breed it out of

00:42:39.140 the school systems uh in the u.s and uh social media chat gpt the chat bots all of that are meant to

00:42:46.740 further eliminate that from us so it's never been uh more important to scrutinize uh things and and go

00:42:54.500 into these and digital environments uh realizing them for what they are um and some people get

00:43:00.980 benefits from them but some people uh don't necessarily anymore uh and there's been a lot

00:43:07.140 even studies that have been leaked from places like facebook where they've manipulated your

00:43:10.820 algorithms to depress you to make you feel feel very negative and feel despondent um and all of that

00:43:18.340 and yeah i mean if we give in to those kinds of emotions then we'll we'll just do nothing right

00:43:25.140 to change uh our situation and do nothing uh why we're at this crosswalk crossroads that we're at

00:43:31.220 that i mentioned earlier uh so there's an effort to emotionally manipulate us uh there as well with

00:43:36.820 you know they can determine what you see and they know you know you're well studied because of all the

00:43:41.540 data that has uh you have generated during your time in the digital environment and they can use

00:43:46.980 that to determine exactly what type of demographic you are exactly what uh you would need to see to

00:43:52.420 shift your viewpoint from viewpoint a to viewpoint b um and uh you know the type of manipulations they

00:43:58.900 can do um you know they can do at a tremendous scale now with ai and we also have to keep in mind

00:44:04.900 that during the obama administration they lifted the ban on the use of propaganda on the domestic

00:44:10.340 american population that had been in place for many decades and a lot of people unfortunately uh forget that

00:44:17.620 i was just talking to a senator the other day and saying why haven't you why haven't you stood

00:44:21.460 up and said and he said i have but nobody wants to listen that that needs to be repealed that needs

00:44:26.260 to be changed back to the way it originally was it's it's insane um uh look can we talk about

00:44:35.060 the way countries are behaving right now um

00:44:38.340 um with all of the flaws of donald trump it is he is at least appears to be the only one that is fighting

00:44:52.180 for uh the country or his country i i see some of these others that i think the the head of hung hungary is

00:45:04.260 doing the same but you see these prime ministers and these presidents everywhere and they are so

00:45:13.380 disconnected from the people and they're all for this global thing where everybody is like no i like

00:45:21.380 my flag i like being italian i like being english i like being american i like being canadian

00:45:28.900 and yet that's all being erased and it's all happening in the same language at the same time

00:45:37.860 in their political systems we're passing the same laws we're doing the same things and yet

00:45:44.100 we're each of us convinced it's only our country because we have this politician we got to get this

00:45:49.780 politician how do you break through to people to say look dummy look past the borders look past

00:45:57.540 our politician like or dislike doesn't matter look past them it's happening everywhere this is a global

00:46:04.900 movement

00:46:08.500 yeah i would probably start with pointing out that for example in our congress it's not like

00:46:14.340 the congressmen themselves write all of the legislation that they pass right a lot of that

00:46:19.540 comes pre-written from think tanks and a lot of those think tanks have certain things in common

00:46:25.060 they share a lot of the same uh oligarch connections for example so the world economic

00:46:30.100 forum arguably is one such think tank um another one would be the carnegie endowment for example that

00:46:36.580 for a long time was dominated by the pritzker family bill burns biden cia director used to be the head

00:46:42.260 of that for example um they're another one that has a lot of influence uh that way uh csis which has

00:46:49.460 another i believe pritzker on the chairman uh as its chairman uh the one that was most tied up with

00:46:55.540 the epstein scandal uh is there and you know the pritzkers uh not to pick on them but they're just you 1.00

00:47:01.380 know one of these families that doesn't really get talked about very often instrumental in the rise of

00:47:05.860 barack obama in chicago along with the crown family uh for example uh but you know their family

00:47:12.020 has ties to organized crime going back to like the 30s or something like that so unfortunately a lot of

00:47:17.940 um these powerful figures have uh shady connections but a lot of money and have rebranded as

00:47:24.500 philanthropists and in doing so have allow uh you know have gotten these uh trustee or influential

00:47:31.540 roles at these think tanks which then uh you know fund you know various fellows and other uh people

00:47:38.820 that write the actual legislation that ends up in the hand of your congressman right and the congressman

00:47:44.420 has told by the different lobby groups um you know this legislation is uh you know covers these

00:47:50.580 topics and and here you go you know and i mean i think it's only a few uh people in in our legislature

00:47:58.340 like uh you know maybe ran paul or a thomas massey who will point out and be like i just got this

00:48:03.620 legislation on my decks desk uh and i have to vote on it in 48 hours and it's you know a couple thousand

00:48:09.780 pages right have any congressmen how many congressmen have actually read this whole thing

00:48:16.420 you know and so i tend right yeah and i tend to think that this is a very common it appears to be

00:48:23.700 common in other countries uh around the world and so you would have um you know a lot of these think

00:48:29.940 tanks that we know in the us some of them have subsidiaries and other countries like latin america

00:48:34.820 or asia where have you um and so that's how you get you know i think the most uh uh easiest example

00:48:42.340 would be you know in the covet era how a lot of the a lot of countries regardless of what they had

00:48:47.060 whether they had leaders on the left or the right um adopted a lot of the same legislation and policies

00:48:52.740 in a very very very uh short period of time but also if you look at europe for example and the idea

00:48:58.420 uh the the policies and ideas that have led to the current uh you know uh immigration crisis there um

00:49:05.540 you know it was coming from left and from right the legislation was coming from certain think tanks

00:49:10.900 um and i think people need to look at these other layers of power that are behind uh the politician

00:49:17.460 there's the the the think tanks and there's also the people that fund those think tanks and a lot of

00:49:22.660 those a lot of that money also directly funds campaigns of of politicians right and um i think

00:49:31.300 unfortunately a lot of the media uh and for a long time obviously mainstream media um you know doesn't

00:49:37.380 really look at those connections arguably because a lot of those a lot of that same money influences

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00:50:41.940 is there i mean i've been looking at south korea since charlie kirk died um i was asked to take on

00:50:51.300 a couple of things that he was doing and one of them was south korea and i had no idea what was going

00:50:56.980 on in south korea i mean i i knew somewhat but i knew that there was a president that uh was an awful

00:51:03.780 lot like donald trump was you know fighting against a lot of the literal chinese communists that had

00:51:11.140 infiltrated his country and they they did all kinds of stuff a lot of the stuff they did to 1.00

00:51:16.340 donald trump but he was backed into a corner and made a huge mistake and he went authoritarian and

00:51:22.820 he's like i'm suspending because i don't believe any of you guys you're all you're all part of this

00:51:28.900 i'm suspending the legislature and declared martial law until it could be sorted out well the people

00:51:34.980 rightfully went what they revolted they threw him out he was impeached uh by the i think by the end of

00:51:42.420 the day he was out um but that swung everything towards the revolutionaries on the other side

00:51:51.860 uh and you know they're they've opened their border to china to north korea letting people just

00:51:57.220 just just flow in um and they are now starting to persecute anybody who had a conservative point

00:52:04.420 of view anybody that was involved you know from five years ago with this president uh or voted that

00:52:10.900 way and now churches and pastors are going to prison and it is really frightening to watch this and i've

00:52:21.940 been watching it and i thought wow i think this is the playbook here for america and any of these

00:52:30.180 people like donald trump that you know they say well they have you know tendencies towards

00:52:36.100 authoritarianism maybe he does maybe he doesn't and i'm the i'll be the first to stand up if you

00:52:41.300 start breaking the constitution but i'm i'm watching what's happening for instance in chicago

00:52:46.500 and i'm thinking okay if i'm the average person i'm like well something has to be done and that's

00:52:53.620 your first mistake when something has to be done and it doesn't you don't follow it with something

00:52:59.140 constitutional must be done you you find you find yourself in a whole different ball game we're entering

00:53:07.860 a time where the left is causing so much chaos on the streets they are i mean they it has

00:53:16.180 something has to be done you know what i mean and then you have because of that you have this

00:53:22.180 growing feeling on the right saying yeah i know something has to be done and it just has to stop

00:53:30.020 that's where south korea ended and i fear that if we're not really super careful that's where we're

00:53:38.020 going to end and that's by design does that make sense or is that just crazy talk um yeah i don't

00:53:46.020 think it's crazy but what it does remind me of is something that happened several decades ago mainly

00:53:50.260 in europe that was called operation gladio i don't know if you're familiar but it basically involved

00:53:55.380 intelligence agencies uh organized crime and elements of the vatican um funding uh terror attacks

00:54:03.300 against civilians um and they were framed in that particular case as being terrorist attacks from the

00:54:10.660 left but the ultimate goal uh was to create so much terror that people would give up their liberty

00:54:17.140 for feeling of security feeling it was safe to take the bus again that it was safe um to live a semblance

00:54:25.460 of a normal life and it's sort of similar to what happened during covid people would give up so much

00:54:30.500 right take um the injections get the vaccine passport just to have a semblance of a normal life right but

00:54:37.460 this is a the same way to do that but with violence um and who ultimately wins at the end of of the day

00:54:43.940 i think is what we should be asking here and we need to keep in mind too that particularly in the united

00:54:48.900 states every president since september 11th has opted to expand um the so-called war on domestic terror

00:54:57.620 and uh you know you'll have a democrat president in and they'll weaponize it against the right and vice 0.99

00:55:04.500 versa and we have and but either way the more it grows the more it endangers our constitutional rights

00:55:11.940 and so i think it's very important um to uh again be extra vigilant um about that because ultimately

00:55:20.740 what they want what what the powers that be uh want is that same hegelian dialectic of problem

00:55:27.060 reaction solution they want to solicit that reaction art which has us consent to the solution

00:55:34.500 that they wanted to implement anyway and so i fear that because of the increased power of an entity

00:55:40.820 like palantir in the u.s government now that the the next shoe to drop will there will be a huge push

00:55:47.380 uh for pre-crime predictive policing as discussed earlier and uh trump nearly fell for that trap in

00:55:55.620 2019 when there was a spate of mass shootings so william barr who was an attorney general

00:56:00.660 uh it got barely any media coverage but he created the uh the legal infrastructure for

00:56:07.860 pre-crime in the united states through a program called deep um and then after that uh explain this

00:56:14.260 explain what for anybody who doesn't know what that is explain it a deep as an acronym i forget exactly

00:56:20.980 what it stands for but it's like deterring it's something about deterrence

00:56:25.620 early through early detection or something like that uh but basically the legal infrastructure

00:56:31.060 set up by bill bar there was that you could ostensibly um arrest someone before they committed

00:56:36.980 a crime preemptively and there have been only a handful of arrests through deep via my understanding

00:56:42.980 but because it's there anything could happen that could make it uh be deployed at scale and so that

00:56:49.300 was particularly concerning at the time because after that uh because of the outrage about the

00:56:55.060 spate of shootings at the time that i think began with the el paso walmart shooting of that year um

00:57:01.620 trump said that social media platforms need to develop tools uh where uh they look at what users are

00:57:08.820 saying and uh determine who will be a shooter before they can commit an act of violence i'm paraphrasing

00:57:15.060 paraphrasing there um and then uh his uh administration was considering but did not implement

00:57:22.180 um a uh health focused version of of the pentagon's darpa they were calling it harpa and that the pilot

00:57:30.340 program of uh the proposed harpa would be an another acronym and i'm sorry that i don't remember what it

00:57:36.340 stands for but it's quite long it's called safe homes and uh the biggest uh lobbyists of this to the

00:57:42.820 the president at the time were jared kushner and his daughter uh ivanka um and basically what that

00:57:48.020 program proposed was for an ai and to go over all of american social media posts and determine what

00:57:55.220 they called early warning uh early warning signs of neuropsychiatric violence and if that and if a

00:58:02.580 user's profile was flagged all sorts of things could be triaged from that including uh you know court

00:58:09.300 ordered physician appointments and all sorts of things that sound terrible uh trump according to

00:58:16.180 the washington post liked the idea but he ultimately didn't pass it so you can take the post reporting

00:58:23.060 however you want i guess but what did happen the bide administration did create harpa but they created

00:58:29.140 it under another name they called it arpa h and they framed it as uh this is how we're going to cure cancer

00:58:35.940 but a lot of the same uh programs are still there the same architects of that harpa proposed to trump

00:58:43.220 for those purposes in 2019 were also involved in the creation of arpa h which has been pushing for uh

00:58:50.980 you know uh people to wear wearables for example which are you know you could theoretically use a

00:58:57.460 surveillance devices but you wear them on your body right um and they might you know palantir runs a lot of

00:59:05.620 that same data as well and if they were ever to combine and in the silo between healthcare and

00:59:12.820 law enforcement since they contract to both there is a potential for very very um you know orwellian

00:59:19.860 terrifying stuff when it comes to predictive policing and predictive analytics uh so you know i it it again

00:59:28.740 depends on who is around the president and how much he listens to them uh but i think it's uh since that

00:59:34.660 happened in 2019 you know there was an attempt to get him to implement that program then and if there

00:59:41.140 is a big enough um event again uh that could lead to huge calls to do something um you know we could

00:59:50.900 see that be marketed as the quote unquote solution and who wins there well the big tech oligarchs that

00:59:57.060 control all of the infrastructure that would be behind pre-crime and the ai algorithms and what's troubling

01:00:03.540 too about the war on domestic terror um is that the definition for it the government's definition for

01:00:09.540 it across them and uh administrations is incredibly incredibly vague so one example is that you can be

01:00:16.100 defined a domestic terrorist if you feel like you have to um uh stand up against government perceived

01:00:23.380 government overreach is the term so that could very easily be anyone on either side of the political

01:00:30.020 isle yeah so um again when we see when we want to suspend the civil liberties and constitutional rights

01:00:37.620 for just one segment of the population because we're told it's necessary so that we can feel safer

01:00:44.660 what ultimately happens historically is that those rights go away for everybody except the people 0.90

01:00:51.140 at the very very very top that are controlling these systems for anybody who doesn't know what palantir is

01:00:56.820 who's running it why it's so dangerous will you take us down that road uh sure i would be happy to

01:01:06.820 so um my work on palantir argues that it was an effort to privatize this program that was pushed on

01:01:13.140 the public after 9 11 that was called total information awareness that was also housed in the pentagon's

01:01:18.500 darpa um there was a huge outcry about this program at the time because it was uh i would argue rightly

01:01:26.420 described as uh eliminating uh the constitutional right to privacy because everyone's data was being

01:01:33.540 sucked in and everyone's data was being spied on and the ultimate goal of tia total information

01:01:39.300 awareness was to have a pre-crime system in the united states that would stop they said at first

01:01:46.820 terrorist attacks before they could happen but they're not just looking at terrorists they were looking at

01:01:51.460 everybody so obviously it was moving towards uh predicting crime before it happens and it also

01:01:56.580 had a health component where they said they would uh hopefully predict uh bioterror attacks before

01:02:03.060 they happen this is again during the anthrax uh the aftermath of the anthrax attacks of 2001

01:02:08.660 but also that they would predict pandemics before they happen and a lot of that uh renewed interest in

01:02:14.340 that you could say uh occurred during the covet era right and so as this program was getting into

01:02:20.820 trouble and they tried to change their name and tried to do all these things to keep congress from

01:02:25.460 defunding them uh palantir uh was incorporated uh by peter teal and peter teal and alex carp who were

01:02:32.900 two of the palantir co-founders uh talked to richard pearl who put them in touch with the person who was

01:02:38.100 running total information awareness and they basically said uh you know they viewed him as a

01:02:44.500 point john poindexter was his name they viewed him as the godfather of modern surveillance and they

01:02:50.020 wanted to essentially recreate what he was doing but they did so as an entirely private entity and in

01:02:56.740 doing so because the government wasn't directly involved a lot of the outcry just dissipated and the

01:03:03.140 earliest funders of palantir um were uh teal himself but also the cia's inqtel and the cia

01:03:11.300 was palantir's first client uh and was their only client i believe for their first five or six years

01:03:17.460 as um a company alex corpus said the cia was always the intended client of palantir you had palantir

01:03:25.220 engineers going to cia headquarters every two weeks having them uh tweak their product uh it appears to be

01:03:31.780 i would argue a cia front company and the cia particularly its chief information officer at

01:03:37.940 the time a fellow named alan wade had also been one of the biggest cheerleaders of total information

01:03:44.020 awareness and he was also um apparently a business partner of galene maxwell sister christine maxwell

01:03:50.980 they tried to make a homeland security software program together um called killiad which is uh

01:03:58.180 uh you know worthy of scrutiny as well and i have uh some writing about that or some more information

01:04:04.580 about that in my in my book well basically that uh there was the scandal in the 80s um that involved

01:04:11.140 robert maxwell her father called the promise software scandal and it was where the cia and also

01:04:17.140 israeli intelligence put back doors into um this software program that was marketed to countries and to

01:04:24.180 corporations and banks throughout the world and christine maxwell had actually been directly

01:04:29.780 involved with the front company that her father used to market that software and then actively

01:04:36.420 after his death in 1991 said that she and her sister her twin sister also galane's sister were trying to

01:04:43.540 rebuild their father's legacy and so they created this tech company that became one of the early search

01:04:51.540 engines but they developed a very close working relationship with bill gates and microsoft which

01:04:55.780 is probably how bill gates actually met jeffrey epstein many decades before they officially met and

01:05:02.580 there's other attestations to that as well but basically the software that she created with wade

01:05:08.740 killiad was a proto palantir and the promise software was actually very similar to palantir as well but

01:05:17.540 the software had been stolen from a fellow named bill hamilton and his company insula inc and so

01:05:24.020 they had been the hamiltons had been suing the u.s government to try and uh get payments restored to

01:05:31.780 them for the use of their uh software but it was stolen illicitly and so by turning it sort of laundering

01:05:38.820 it into these different um companies they were able to avoid ever paying the hamiltons any money for

01:05:44.420 the software that they essentially stole um and so anyway i don't want to get too um off the topic of

01:05:51.700 of palantir but you know these are the characters that essentially uh created it and it uh it labels

01:05:58.500 people as there's a label you can label someone as a subversive um in the palantir system um and it

01:06:05.060 collects essentially everything um about you and so currently it's being used to target and uh classify

01:06:12.180 uh immigrants for deportation but it has those same capabilities that could be used against

01:06:17.540 uh you know actual american citizens domestically if the war on domestic terror was ever to begin

01:06:23.620 in earnest um and so i find it an immensely concerning company particularly its interest in

01:06:30.500 predictive policing and pre-crime which it was one of the earliest uh piloters of uh of predictive

01:06:36.180 policing i believe they started in new orleans and there's also the fact that um you know the co-founder of

01:06:42.180 palantir peter thiel uh was just relatively dishonest i would argue about his meetings with jeffrey epstein

01:06:49.380 he was uh trying to get uh well he was involved in funding a company that also has pre-crime uh

01:06:55.540 pre-crime uh capabilities uh that was uh championed by ehud barack and epstein epstein put a lot of money

01:07:02.900 into it it's called carbine um and uh there were meeting newly released emails show that they were all

01:07:10.420 sort of talking to each other about teal investing directly in carbine and teal invested um you know

01:07:16.420 uh i think he was one of his venture capital uh firms received a significant amount of money from epstein

01:07:21.860 and he had not been uh very upfront about that um until you know relatively recently um so i think um

01:07:30.820 you know that company to carbine uh have it has creeped into a variety of uh uh counties across the

01:07:38.580 u.s taking over the 9-1-1 emergency call systems and if congress is to pass legislation uh that would

01:07:45.140 federalize the 9-1-1 system make it an all national system which there is a push to do um you know carbine

01:07:52.820 has been the top lobbying firm for that but they have a pre-crime component where if you um they

01:07:58.820 call it the c records component but you can't find it on their website anymore after um there were

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01:10:16.020 how small the circle is there's not a lot of people doing these things i mean it is but not when you look

01:10:23.940 at it globally it's it's like i think it amazed me at first but now it's like oh yeah it's those guys

01:10:30.980 um you know what do you think the number is what do you think the number is that actually knows what

01:10:37.220 they're doing and is doing it at most i would say it's probably a couple hundred and then not probably

01:10:46.180 smaller than that but mm-hmm well you know especially with the technology they have today it's never been

01:10:52.180 easier for the few to control the many and they want to make it so that um you know the peasants

01:10:59.700 yeah uh the serfs can't uh you know fight against their rule anymore um and again that's why we have

01:11:07.540 to uh resist this as much as possible but i uh unfortunately think that to try and get us to consent

01:11:14.260 because again they need our consent they will throw the kitchen sink at us to try and get us to consent

01:11:19.380 uh they they could make life very difficult they could i mean you know oh yeah use acts of of terror

01:11:27.140 like they did in in something like operation gladio to make people so afraid for their lives that they

01:11:32.740 will give up all of their liberties they did this is what the communist feels safer this is what the 0.70

01:11:38.100 communists did to take over i think it was hungry you know the the the nato thing was we'll have peace but

01:11:43.860 you can't go in unless invited you can't turn any countries uh into uh russian satellite countries

01:11:52.580 unless invited in and so they just went in and they they did pretty much what's happening now

01:11:59.380 you know and built the framework for it to fall in and then cause chaos in the streets they had tanks

01:12:04.900 parked right on the border and when the chaos got to a certain level their people inside the government of

01:12:11.620 hungary said we need help and russia rolled across and they were communist country overnight i mean it's 0.82

01:12:19.060 it's not it's not a hard thing to figure out they do it over and over again but i would argue too that

01:12:25.220 this is bigger than just national governments this is oh yeah people yeah i don't know what to call

01:12:32.500 them but oligarchs again it's a small number of people and they have their men as it were in every

01:12:38.820 government everywhere um i'll give you an example that i find particularly interesting so samuel pisar

01:12:45.860 uh remembered as a human rights lawyer maybe remembered better uh in the last administration

01:12:50.820 because he helped raise anthony blinken who was his stepson he was also a very close friend of of

01:12:56.820 robert maxwell he testified to congress in the early 70s and he talked about something called the rise of

01:13:05.060 the trans ideological corporation and he said that the western multinational corporations of uh yeah in

01:13:13.540 the west right um had started making all of these joint ventures with the state-owned communist companies

01:13:20.100 of russia and of china and that what was happening is that they were basically creating a global 0.68

01:13:25.300 government of economic power that was making the nation state entirely irrelevant this is in the early 1970s

01:13:32.740 and a congressman i forget who it was uh asked pisar is this a bad thing and pisar was like not

01:13:39.620 necessarily yeah and at the same time his pal robert maxwell was making all of these connections uh

01:13:47.860 to entities like the kgb uh to israeli national security agencies in the uk also in the us across the board

01:13:57.220 uh and giving them this backdoored software while also trying to tie together a bunch of organized

01:14:02.900 crime families across the world starting with the yakuza in japan to simian mogulovich and uh you know

01:14:10.580 soviet air in the soviet union and to mob bosses in the united states i mean it i i don't mean to laugh but

01:14:18.260 it's just truly astounding and this was going i mean this was the 70s and he just brazenly admitted it to congress

01:14:23.940 well carol quigley he said one of the do you remember in the 60s carol quigley he did the same thing

01:14:29.540 they made him a pariah for a few years but he was like proud of it no we're gonna end war we're gonna

01:14:34.980 just tie everything together financially and then you know you'll have these police actions and

01:14:41.060 the world changed exactly the way he said it was going to change i mean they're they're proud of it

01:14:46.420 they want to tell you they're proud of what they do

01:14:49.140 yeah i think he in particular quickly was talking about uh this being affected by the

01:14:55.620 so-called round table groups like the council on foreign relations the trilateral commission

01:15:00.980 of which keir starmer is a is a member if i'm not mistaken um and uh yeah again these these think

01:15:08.340 tanks are very powerful i think actually as it relates to the cfr there's a video of hillary clinton

01:15:12.820 uh calling it the mothership when she was secretary of state wow where uh where where her where the 0.99

01:15:20.420 foreign policy directives really come from something to that effect is it possible to break this without

01:15:27.380 breaking society is it possible to break and stop this so i think it is but i think also that people

01:15:37.940 have to realize that to untangle these powerful interests from our lives and from our world uh

01:15:46.980 they won't go down easily but they will go down more easily if more of us act and more of us also

01:15:53.700 know and understand that they in a lot of cases there are efforts to try and make us

01:16:00.580 resort to violence yes that's what they want and i think um in the last administration it should have

01:16:06.260 been very obvious to conservatives that there was an effort to go to them towards violence um and

01:16:10.900 i think that will ping pong from left to right it will go and you know it it they want to just get

01:16:17.540 people that want to fight against this on both sides and they want to demonize them uh so that they

01:16:22.740 can be sort of swept up in this war on on domestic terror so violence is absolutely not the answer but

01:16:29.060 what can we do i think it's important again uh what we have to focus on what we can actually control

01:16:35.940 you know overnight we can't um you know a person like me can't dismantle uh the wef or the cfr or

01:16:42.660 any of these things but what can i do what can i actually control right um and so i can control um

01:16:49.860 you know where i uh how i live my life how i raise my children uh whether i'm dependent on uh the

01:16:57.460 infrastructure of people that i know are bad whether that's the power grid or how i use social media or any

01:17:04.020 of these other things you know people need to take stock of of their life and what they can control

01:17:08.820 but ultimately what it comes down to also and i think one of the most important uh points i have

01:17:14.020 to convey today um is that they want our consent so badly and they need it uh for this to work and

01:17:21.860 that includes why do they need and a lot of why do they i think it comes down to a a user base

01:17:28.100 um so for example if there's a cbdc or a stable coin launched by a government somewhere and no one uses

01:17:35.940 it it fails if digital d id is a linchpin to all of this stuff and no one uses it it fails

01:17:45.860 and i think they just don't think that we they think uh they can use uh you know a carrot you know

01:17:52.740 in the carrot and stick analogy to lure us in and then once we are in outcomes the stick and um i

01:18:01.620 think a lot of this if it's not through uh you know fear which is you know the go-to way to control

01:18:08.660 people whether it's the covid type of fear or you know the domestic terror uh type of fear you know

01:18:14.900 that's one way but also money our money is a key way uh to try and attacking people's wealth and wealth

01:18:22.020 transfers uh because people that are more likely to go into these digital prisons uh they will be

01:18:28.180 desperate and so you want uh desperate people also don't think rationally and so at a certain point

01:18:34.660 uh you worry about your survival and you uh stop worrying about you know maybe your civil liberties or

01:18:40.500 maybe even the constitution and the hierarchy of needs yeah and so i think how do we protect ourselves

01:18:48.340 and insulate ourselves and our communities from events that would that are leading us towards that

01:18:52.980 reaction and the problem reaction solution paradigm can i ask you where do we where do we stand on um

01:19:02.260 the race for ai and does it matter

01:19:06.900 i mean i see things i see things that are being developed for the pentagon and for china that are

01:19:15.380 terrifying i don't think people understand war it it's going to be as if you fought in the spanish

01:19:23.460 american war and all of a sudden you were transported to you know uh world war ii um nothing is going to be

01:19:33.700 the same everything that we have is going to be outdated every i mean the killing that is possible in the

01:19:41.460 very near future with ai is breathtaking am i wrong on this please say yes no i don't think you're i

01:19:52.100 don't think you're wrong on that uh i think it is incredibly deeply unsettling um it allows uh not

01:19:58.260 just war but war crimes to be committed at scale with minimal human involvement and uh yeah if hitler had

01:20:05.380 just the technology just if hitler had the technology just that we know of today there wouldn't be a jew on 1.00

01:20:11.700 on the planet there wouldn't be one i mean you can track people you can hunt them down you can grab them

01:20:18.100 you can you can convince them to do i mean the the power so yeah tell me where we are with ai on

01:20:28.420 on china and our race towards it and all of this stuff i i don't see us building all these power

01:20:35.940 plants i've i've talked to the president about hey we're going to build all these nuclear power

01:20:41.540 plants well you better hurry because if you're actually fighting that war we're not going to have

01:20:48.740 the power to run these places so where are we on all of this

01:20:53.540 well i guess there's a couple different ways um to to go here um and i'm not really sure the

01:21:02.900 best place to start but i guess um what i think of in in you asking that question is um there was

01:21:10.820 this national security commission uh called the national security commission on ai eric schmidt

01:21:16.660 unsurprisingly um let it and yeah he uh and he um basically some in some of the documentation that

01:21:25.620 came out of uh of of that commission via foyer request uh showed that they felt that the only way

01:21:32.340 for the u.s to catch up to china and i'm paired this is my opinion um was essentially to become china

01:21:38.980 right in the name of beating china we have to do all the things um god that sounds like a very 0.99

01:21:44.420 very bit criticized yeah about china so the idea was in china they use ai for everything ai has crept

01:21:51.860 into every um facet of a person's life in a chinese mega city and so um we need to make americans

01:22:01.300 use ai just as much if not more in order to leapfrog chinese ai capabilities so what did they

01:22:09.860 suggest and this is right before covid by the way they suggested an end to in-person shopping and an

01:22:15.460 end to in-person doctor visits um an end of uh car ownership that we should only use fleets of self

01:22:24.260 driving ubers that we rent um and you know basically live through our phones and live through apps uh that

01:22:32.020 are powered by ai because uh they argue china has a larger population it has a user base that is

01:22:39.780 feeding chinese ai uh with so much more data than americans are feeding american ai uh so we have to

01:22:48.100 harvest more data from americans faster um in order to catch up so um at the at the same time too you

01:23:00.900 have a lot of big tech oligarchs that have a lot of ties to china and chinese industry um and chinese

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01:24:42.260 well it is always fascinating to talk to you can we talk about jeffrey epstein for just a second

01:24:46.740 um because you are the foremost expert on that whole web um oh well thank you well you are um

01:24:56.580 i mean like i i was thinking about it today when we were getting ready to do the interview i'm

01:25:00.100 thinking i don't there's nobody that knows more about it than you do you think well you know i would

01:25:07.140 say my expertise in my book you know about epstein only really goes up to um his first arrest and so

01:25:13.780 i don't really consider myself an expert on all the litigation all of that and all the civil cases

01:25:19.060 between his accusers um and a lot of the court stuff and also i feel like there's plenty of

01:25:24.740 other journalists that have covered um victim testimonies and what victims have said um and so

01:25:30.820 you know i don't consider myself jeffrey epstein and where he came from what he was yeah there's nobody

01:25:38.100 better than you um thank you so is there a is there a black book

01:25:48.340 so i would say first of all there is a black book that has been published it was published by gawker

01:25:54.260 in 2015 it was obtained by journalist nick bryant um and that is the black book we have um there is

01:26:02.100 obviously documentation and documents that the u.s government still has that it has very openly over

01:26:09.300 the past several months uh made various excuses for about why it will not release them um what do they

01:26:15.540 contain do you know uh no i don't okay um but i can i can guess about some things so but there are

01:26:23.380 also a few questions that they could just answer that don't necessarily involve document releasing

01:26:28.580 like why was zorro ranch never raided it's one of it's in the continental u.s it's an epstein property

01:26:35.140 the new york townhouse was town raided why were there not simultaneous raids on all of his

01:26:39.460 properties on u.s territory what do you let's not coordinate that uh well i don't know i mean zorro ranch

01:26:45.780 there's a lot of um that's new mexico right spec in the new mexico property there's a lot of

01:26:50.900 speculation about what happened there uh with women in particular um and uh why was it never raided

01:26:57.940 i just find that uh incredibly strange and also you know there's attestations during the 2019

01:27:04.660 uh raid on the new york townhouse uh that there were binders of cds um and i remember that you know

01:27:11.060 hard drives you know what what was the content i mean pam bondy has now more recently after saying

01:27:16.980 she was going to release them turned around and said that they're all cp um i don't necessarily know

01:27:22.580 if that's true what's cp but again a child porn okay okay all right yeah fine prefer these yeah

01:27:29.860 sorry yeah that's all right yeah um but there's all sorts of um things that that could actually

01:27:35.780 be again we don't know um again i as i've said for a long time i think the jeffrey epstein case

01:27:42.740 is a bipartisan issue um there's a lot of powerful people that went to him and it wasn't exclusively

01:27:49.140 uh for sexual deviancy there uh i i've argued for a long time that epstein was involved in

01:27:54.740 financial criminality uh money laundering uh tax evasion and it seems that there are a lot of very

01:28:00.980 powerful uh oligarch figures and many of them very powerful big tech figures whose money he was uh

01:28:08.660 managing um and one one example of that that came downwind of the usvi uh case against uh you know jp

01:28:16.260 morgan uh was sergey brin in particular the google co-founder um and a lot of uh but those cases were

01:28:23.220 settled um the son of a judge was murdered when she was overseeing the deutsche bank uh epstein case i

01:28:30.260 think there's a major interest in not having those financial um relationships fully untangled um and i

01:28:39.300 think um you know because of how interwoven um these these networks are um you know it's it's uh not

01:28:49.060 politically uh salient for uh the trump administration to release them all for whatever reason um can i can

01:28:59.460 i ask you a question i don't know how do you how do you decipher between an actual conspiracy

01:29:08.980 and i mean one that's been driving me crazy is that charlie kirk was shot in the back

01:29:14.100 by a massad agent who used a hatch and that was in the grass right behind him and shot him from behind

01:29:20.340 i mean just crazy stuff how do you when you're looking at something how do you go about going

01:29:28.980 ah that's worth looking into that's not well i think at this point for me it's it's uh intuition

01:29:36.980 and also the fact that a lot of my work is historical so i look back many decades and so if i get inkling of

01:29:44.020 something suspect happening now and the the parties involved happen to be directly connected to people

01:29:49.460 that i know engaged in wrongdoing and crime in the past then i i tend to be more inclined because

01:29:54.980 there's a there are patterns and a lot of these people repeat the same tactics and the same patterns

01:30:01.060 of criminality over and over again uh but i think also um yeah there was a deliberate effort to try and 0.84

01:30:08.660 undermine the reporting on real conspiracies by muddying the waters and flooding it with crap yeah it was

01:30:15.140 it was a cia operative one that said discredit people by calling them conspiracy theorists

01:30:22.340 uh you after the canady assassination yes and so but in addition to that more recently uh samantha

01:30:28.260 powers husband cast sunstein uh wrote a a bizarre paper i forget exactly when i think it was in the obama

01:30:36.580 era it was 2008 exactly what the quote is it said uh even something even if it turns out to be true

01:30:42.420 discredit um that was it was like it was your first go was to call it a conspiracy theory even if it

01:30:51.460 turns out later to be true it doesn't matter discredit discredit discredit yes but in addition to that

01:30:58.820 there was an there was something about infiltrating conspiracy movements that's right to push the needle

01:31:04.980 to a narrative that's what was more favorable uh to the powers that be so he as one example he said a

01:31:12.100 lot of conspiracy uh the conspiracy movement in the u.s at that time did not trust the government so how

01:31:19.140 do we make a conspiracy infiltrate conspiracy movements to make them trust the government and i

01:31:25.300 would argue that something like q anon likely was downwind of that wow i never thought of that but

01:31:31.700 but but there's very it's very possible um that that continues now uh i would argue it does especially

01:31:39.300 you know they know that a lot of this information about past conspiracies or even current ones you know

01:31:44.900 can't always be put back in the bottle but if you muddy the waters yeah flood the zone to use one of their

01:31:50.740 terms with things that are are dubious you know it becomes very hard for people uh to sift through the

01:31:57.300 content and then we're left doing what eric schmidt and henry kissinger propose relying on ai to sift

01:32:03.460 through all of that for us to tell us the right answer um so again critical thinking very important

01:32:12.020 um but i think you know because trust is it is at an all-time low um you know there's a it just

01:32:17.940 depends on the person uh i mean obviously there's a lot of people that uh um you know are terminally

01:32:25.380 online and sort of drift into places where they might think things are true that um i i you know

01:32:34.020 certain people would definitely not agree with um but again i think it just comes down to individual

01:32:39.940 discernment and critical thinking which are qualities that are not taught to people uh anymore in in

01:32:48.020 schools and uh you know it starts with with parents teaching that type of um discernment and for me

01:32:54.260 personally you know i i think history adds a lot of the necessary context to having that ability to

01:33:01.060 discern um and so i would you know urge people to look at um you know what these particular networks um

01:33:09.860 have done decade over decade you know what the reason my book is so long and is in two volumes is

01:33:15.940 because you know i thought that the repeated patterns by the repeated individuals that are all connected

01:33:21.060 together would show that obviously there is something wrong here uh maybe we won't get an

01:33:25.860 omission you know from bill gates and writing about his epstein relationship or you know from uh

01:33:32.580 intelligence agencies that they had connections to jeffrey epstein and affidavit it's very unlikely

01:33:38.020 we'll get those documents so what can we look at in uh in in you know the public record that's publicly available

01:33:45.060 and uh obviously i think you know my book shows that there's various instances the same individuals

01:33:52.420 repeating the same tactics um over and over again using a lot of the same institutions to do so um and

01:33:59.300 how you know the it just stacks so much that it becomes to me quite obvious that something is is very

01:34:06.660 wrong um with that particular network and when you have so many instances of financial crime arms

01:34:14.740 trafficking sex trafficking concentrated with such a in such a small group of people many of whom have

01:34:21.540 ties to the organized crime uh gangs from you know america's not so distant past um you know

01:34:29.620 to me it looks like that a lot of those people rebranded and basically the main thesis of my book is

01:34:34.340 that those organized crime interests got in bed with our intelligence agencies um and some of those

01:34:40.660 organized crime figures rebranded as philanthropists or other things um but ultimately um you know it's

01:34:49.140 what that that entity that fused entity ultimately wants is an authoritarian uh government and we have

01:34:57.940 to uh fight against that despite you know all the things that they could throw on us and all the

01:35:03.380 manipulations um that they may target us with um which again i think over the net over the short term

01:35:11.380 it's going to be more than we've probably ever seen uh before but people have to be very steadfast in uh

01:35:18.180 how much the constitution matters to them yeah the constitutional rights are for every american not

01:35:23.380 just the american that we happen to agree with yes and i think who benefits the most if we

01:35:29.540 start hating our neighbor and want to kill them you know um so last question what keeps you up at night 0.67

01:35:39.140 what are you looking at the future over the horizon and going oh my gosh well there's more than a few 0.97

01:35:45.060 things i guess i would say right now but i'm i'm very concerned you know as as a parent you know

01:35:51.300 seeing a school uh kids that go to school with my children or that we just know or or seeing other

01:36:00.420 kids uh of other people online just how sucked into um technology they are in some and some of them how

01:36:08.420 much they identify with the technology more than the real world that worries me greatly especially

01:36:14.500 considering that we saw this push a few years ago um for the the so-called uh metaverse as it were um

01:36:22.260 and getting people to want to live in a virtual uh reality um and actually this political philosopher

01:36:30.500 who's very close to to peter thiel um curtis yarvin he has this quote about what should be done with

01:36:38.100 the undesirables of society he calls it a humane alternative to genocide and it sounds just like

01:36:43.460 something klaus schwab would say it was basically you know the best i have the quote i could read it

01:36:49.060 to you it's on my desk but it's probably like uh yuval harari's quote it it truly is but this is

01:36:57.460 somehow someone that is popular uh in certain right-leaning circles in the u.s right now um but i

01:37:04.500 what's his name yes i gotta look him up uh curtis yarvin okay he said the best humane alternative to

01:37:11.060 genocide i can think of is not to liquidate the wards meaning people either metaphorically or

01:37:17.460 literally but to virtualize them a virtualized human is in permanent solitary confinement waxed

01:37:23.460 like a bee larva into a cell which is sealed except for emergencies oh my god this would drive him

01:37:29.300 insane except that the cell contains an immersive virtual reality interface which allows him to

01:37:35.300 experience a rich fulfilling life in a completely imaginary world it is the matrix it's the matrix

01:37:44.260 and i think i just worry about how i i know i see parents that are my age that probably shouldn't

01:37:52.420 be parents at all that just pass you know tablets or phones to their kids and just want to focus on

01:37:57.620 their own stuff or their own screens and don't parent and we are and those people are inadvertently

01:38:02.580 socially engineering their children to live in that kind of reality if they are deemed undesirable

01:38:09.460 or you know part of this underclass that ai is going to act upon um and that's what really

01:38:16.820 unsettles me uh because i think a lot of this um if they can't do it um you know now they'll absolutely

01:38:24.100 try and future generations and if we don't prepare them for this and prepare them to live and stand up

01:38:29.780 for the real world and to stand up for what it means to be human if they forget if they never learn

01:38:34.580 yeah uh you know what it means we could then yeah i think we could lose it and so you know i think uh

01:38:41.380 there's never been a more important time uh to to be a good parent wow uh than right now good for you

01:38:49.940 i i just i really love talking to you you're so bright and so centered and that's rare thank you thanks you bet

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The Glenn Beck Program - October 11, 2025

Ep 269 ｜ Great Reset Elites Are Planning a Post-Human Future ｜ Whitney Webb ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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