The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 270 ｜ How to Make Men DANGEROUS Again ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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00:00:49.100 young men are making a terrible mistake they are taking four of what should be the most adventurous 0.98

00:00:58.180 life-changing years of their life and they're spending them at a university where they're

00:01:01.940 lectured about how toxic and privileged they are they emerge with debt and zero prospects or very few

00:01:09.440 prepared for a world that doesn't exist anymore or soon won't future-proofing our kids against the

00:01:17.480 rise of ai and the fall of common sense that's what everybody at least i as a dad that's what i worry

00:01:23.280 about i am going to introduce you to a young man who skipped college and instead sailed around the

00:01:29.260 falkland islands became an emt learned spanish wrangled horses in wyoming is getting his pilot's

00:01:36.200 license as he flies planes in colorado and so much more and his father who created this epic alternative

00:01:43.140 to a four-year degree for his son and for possibly yours welcome two of the men behind the

00:01:51.380 preparation how to become confident competent and dangerous matt and maxim smith

00:01:59.120 maxim uh matt welcome how are you doing well doing well thanks good i'm so i'm so excited to have you

00:02:21.260 on i have a i have a 19 year old son um and you know we have gone back and forth on college and

00:02:28.820 you know he's like what am i going to college for and i'm like i don't want you to go to college but

00:02:33.340 you don't know don't know exactly what to do and i i saw this and i thought uh please let's i want to

00:02:40.440 pursue this because i want to pursue this with my son uh i i just think this is brilliant this is the

00:02:47.780 first real answer for what do you do with a young man that has is lost and and maxim i want to i want

00:02:56.640 to ask you because this is what my son has said to me dad why don't you go to college what is the point

00:03:03.880 so i go to college and then maybe that job is still available with ai and then what i get a job and i work

00:03:12.720 at a place i don't really like and still can't afford a house or a life is that the way you felt

00:03:18.560 yeah yeah for sure i mean i my dad never persuaded me to go to college but i remember it's probably

00:03:28.060 about a year and a half ago i was thinking um what do young men have to look forward to and so they have

00:03:34.640 these three main paths college being the main one and then it's like what you can't really afford

00:03:40.060 anything you can't buy your own house anymore because you're probably not going to make enough

00:03:43.740 money to do so and yeah exactly you're going to go to college to get a degree that maybe gets you

00:03:50.180 something maybe gets you a job maybe gets you good money but you know what else do you have from there

00:03:57.280 so yeah i was thinking the same thing and what were the other paths that you looked at

00:04:02.500 um for me personally i would say the only other path was just because my dad's been an entrepreneur

00:04:13.120 his whole life was doing doing that instead

00:04:15.720 so dad you're watching your son you're seeing this you are just an entrepreneur that you know

00:04:27.420 has done it but i think even that you and i are both from a different time of entrepreneurship

00:04:34.280 where in some ways it was harder to be an entrepreneur and some ways it's much harder

00:04:39.860 now to be an entrepreneur it's just different it's just different so tell me your journey through this

00:04:45.840 well you know actually i should i should back i should i guess i should say that uh this is a book

00:04:52.980 that uh my mentor doug casey wanted to write for the last 12 years he called it renaissance man

00:04:59.640 when he first pitched me on it 12 years ago the idea being well when he pitched me on he said i want

00:05:05.220 to go i want to call it renaissance man and i said well tell me more what's it about and he said well

00:05:09.740 the three most important verbs in every language are be do and have and i want the book to be about that

00:05:16.100 and frankly at the time i didn't know what he meant by that i asked a couple follow-up questions

00:05:20.440 didn't really get anything from him and every couple years he would and doug's written lots of

00:05:25.220 books but every couple years doug would kind of pitch me on it again and at the same time he would

00:05:29.600 remind me that it's a lot of brain damage he would say to write a book yeah so you know i'm getting

00:05:37.360 mixed messages but when he was 17 on the cusp of 18 you know i could see in him and feel in him

00:05:46.440 the anxiety the uncertainty and this is two years ago so that we're coming out of covid still

00:05:51.700 well i mean the world became incredibly uncertain for everybody i think through that era and i think

00:05:57.500 young people got the shaft in that in a big way and created more uncertainty and but i could see his

00:06:03.200 anxiety like he wants i could see he want we like all men we want to be somebody you know but we know

00:06:09.780 we have to do something that matters in order to become someone that matters you know so it didn't

00:06:16.700 sound like there was no real clear path and because i i'm i'm a college dropout so i didn't grow up i

00:06:23.180 didn't he didn't grow up with me saying college is the key to success because that was the key to my

00:06:27.880 success so in some ways that made it harder for him i think because you know it was like at least he

00:06:34.420 wasn't he wasn't propagandized with oh well this is a strategy in my work 100 i faced the same thing

00:06:40.260 i didn't go to college i went to college for a semester when i was 30 i couldn't afford it

00:06:43.900 um and so i have said my whole life that because i didn't go to college i don't think in the box

00:06:49.900 which helps me you look at life completely differently and it's it's helped me and so i've

00:06:55.260 never been really for college my wife has been for college i'm not for college but it is

00:07:00.040 it put us in this situation to where my kids were like well then what then what and we didn't know

00:07:06.480 then what um well we didn't know then what either so then i went so i went seeing him like this i went

00:07:13.120 back to doug and i said let's flesh out this idea a little more and we came up with basically what

00:07:20.100 you could really essentially put on a napkin a list of uh skills um occupations games and activities

00:07:28.360 essentially that like a renaissance man would ultimately have that was his idea under the

00:07:34.120 renaissance man theme for for anybody who doesn't know what a renaissance man is i don't even know

00:07:39.800 if that's a term understood anymore explain what a renaissance man is well that's why the book's not

00:07:46.220 called renaissance man so basically a renaissance man is somebody who can well glenn i think i think

00:07:57.380 you're a good example of this you can paint you uh can write you know you're a man of many talents

00:08:04.460 you can do lots of things engaging with the real world you're not limited to specialization you know

00:08:10.780 where there's you're caught in a wheel you do one thing you understand the world around you

00:08:15.340 and you're able to successfully engage in that world and create in that world right that's what

00:08:19.980 a renaissance man simple terms so that's where we started from and fortunately maxim was a great

00:08:26.860 sport about it and willing to follow our direction and it really was not well structured in the beginning

00:08:35.280 you have to understand it was it was very loose and we we only came up over the last two years with a

00:08:40.540 much more structured approach to it what to make it so he could be more effective and ultimately then

00:08:45.360 it translates well for others to apply okay so what's the best way to take this apart should we

00:08:49.800 do with the b do have let's let's start with yeah the b because that's the first thing you have to do

00:08:56.900 if i'm not mistaken maxim right yes yeah that's that's one of the primary things that lets you start

00:09:03.860 it all okay you need that for sure yeah i think it's important to understand because i kind of

00:09:08.000 orientations into because we are today or we're motivated generally by having you know we like

00:09:15.320 to have a nice house we'd like to have a you know beautiful spouse we'd like to have a new car or the 1.00

00:09:22.500 latest iphone or whatever especially in our consumer culture this is becoming this is like

00:09:27.360 what people focus on the problem is is that everyone it's not well understood that having is

00:09:33.620 actually just a byproduct of doing you know it just it comes along by doing and so doing is the

00:09:41.280 operative doing is where the power is like by doing that's where you can change things and can

00:09:45.760 ultimately get to the half but you don't this is the thing that i've talked to my children about a lot

00:09:51.020 you can't just do because i grew up poor my kids have grown up surrounded by success which is i think

00:10:00.000 much more detrimental than poor um but i've tried to explain you weren't there for the tough years

00:10:06.800 you know what i mean um and you can't just do you must be different you must know who you are what you

00:10:17.060 serve what you're trying to create how you're trying to make life easier for other people when

00:10:24.000 you know that then you'll find your due and then you'll have is that philosophy yeah i think you're

00:10:32.400 you're exactly right about that i totally agree i think it's just it's very hard for a young person

00:10:39.060 to believe in their in who they are right until they're engaged in the world and practicing it

00:10:46.900 and so what we do in the book we try and we plant the seed of b we try to explain to them this

00:10:52.380 orientation and that truly the doing is the operative doing is your tool dual you have lots

00:10:58.360 of energy lots of time no liabilities i mean lots lots of possibilities open to novelty in a way that

00:11:05.220 you won't be when you get older i mean well anyway doing is where your power is it's your it's the

00:11:10.520 operative but b is that the only thing that matters it's the only thing that matters and and so we try

00:11:16.800 and plant the seed around that early on and again we actually put people through an exercise which

00:11:21.360 sounds trivial at first uh where we have them develop a personal code because it's because

00:11:26.520 just just to give them a kid to begin get them to begin to answer and think about at least the most

00:11:34.940 important question which is not what people ask young men typically before they go to college

00:11:39.500 what do you want to do it's like essentially who are you going to work for you know you know it's

00:11:43.100 really the question it's what kind of man do you want to become what kind of man do you want to become

00:11:49.480 so maxim can you take us through your personal code on the man that you and and uh i mean walk us

00:11:59.120 through how you got here if you can take us through the process so we understand it a bit but

00:12:03.680 what is your b who do you want to become how did you answer that

00:12:08.240 well i think i kind of kind of answered that in the beginning as soon as this this list of games

00:12:17.180 activities and occupations was given to me i i had always loved the story of the count of monte cristo

00:12:22.540 um i'd read it and seen one of the movies one of the versions of the movie

00:12:28.120 and despite all the revenge stuff we're not you know yeah yeah not talking about that part it's

00:12:33.700 about the fact that during a period of about 14 years he transformed himself into a completely

00:12:39.780 different man with lots of skills um and that was kind of my my image of the man i i wanted to be at

00:12:48.380 the time i think it's morphed a little bit changed a little bit but that's where it all all started

00:12:53.540 in the beginning so how did you put that together in i mean do you have to when you write this out

00:13:02.420 how do you how did this how did you formalize that

00:13:08.420 uh definitely writing it out yeah yeah we have a symbols join describe the structure too

00:13:14.580 yeah well the structure of it is there's there's three main parts there's the moral code part which

00:13:19.460 is where you kind of draw the line in the sand this is where you write kind of write out what you will

00:13:24.820 and will not allow yourself to do can you be very clear yeah let's say like for example i won't do

00:13:34.500 anything that degrades myself or i will um i will endure any bearable condition for example

00:13:45.460 things like that and then it moves over to virtues so we we speak about the classic

00:13:52.580 greek and roman virtues and we lay out a list of them in the book and we have people pick out

00:13:58.340 five or seven of those virtues that they add to their list and try to pursue and then the last

00:14:04.580 section is your competencies and that's where you write down it's an ever increasing ever expanding list

00:14:09.940 over the four years in the preparation where you keep adding your your new competencies your new

00:14:15.780 skills so really in the beginning it was just kind of writing out um i didn't have the virtues so much

00:14:21.620 i think i added that later on but it was writing out the things i would allow myself to do and would

00:14:26.740 not allow myself to do yeah this is the way i see it is you know i'm not one who loves rules okay i don't

00:14:33.540 love you know all the rules that there are so many in the world and his generation has grown up in the

00:14:39.460 most surveilled tracked scheduled of any of any people ever to walk the face of the earth you know

00:14:47.460 and so those rules are very confining to young people but rules that they choose for themselves

00:14:54.740 uh rules that because of observing themselves what like if they engage in behavior that they see makes

00:15:02.020 them feel degraded to do you know it could be with porn for instance yeah yeah which is not

00:15:08.500 uncommon among young people it could be um it could be lying you know a little white lie maybe uh

00:15:15.380 people say oh that's not so bad well you know i feel personally i feel a little degraded if i tell

00:15:19.540 white lie if you ask me out for dinner on friday and i say i'm busy when i really just am not in the

00:15:23.540 mood for it this week next week would be better and but i tell you i'm busy that little white light

00:15:28.740 makes me feel small so like i if i observing my own responses the way i behave in the environment

00:15:34.180 and i have a set you develop a set of rules i'm not going to do this anymore and it sounds trivial

00:15:39.620 i know but this is for a young person this is the beginning beginning of real self-esteem because

00:15:45.780 it's the first time they are deciding who they are and what is acceptable to them and what is not

00:15:51.700 acceptable to them for their own conduct not for other people but just for themselves they can take

00:15:55.700 this the start of them taking control over their life with these rules and they're you know they're binary

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00:17:46.420 one of them is uh washington george washington did his rules of civility he was eight years old of course

00:17:52.260 eight years old he writes the rules of civility of the man that i'm gonna do these things and that's

00:17:58.740 what a man is and we don't you know i've always had a problem with people saying you know what do you

00:18:05.620 want to do when you grow up no no who do you want to be when you grow up that that's the most important

00:18:12.180 thing so now tell me the cycles how do the cycles work we we go from this preparation of who you want to

00:18:20.260 be are we finished with that did we cover all of that yeah yeah basically yeah basically i mean the

00:18:26.660 thing about the virtues i'll just say is that the virtues so like the rules are binary i passed i

00:18:31.300 failed it's kind of a guideline the virtues are an aspiration i mean courage for instance you could

00:18:36.740 you could always be more courageous i mean it's the constant pursuit of these of virtuous conduct

00:18:42.980 essentially and and we ask people to choose among ones that really call to them and for individuals

00:18:47.140 they'll be different they really will but what we lay them all out for them and i just ask them to

00:18:51.140 pick which ones call to them the most and uh and there's no and then finally there's no um this is

00:18:58.500 all self-written i mean you you don't have to turn this paper in and and you know you're not you're not

00:19:06.020 programming to anybody but you yeah and i think it's really important that you that because these rules

00:19:12.660 are the to the world they might you they might not even know that you engage in behavior that makes

00:19:18.340 you feel small but you know and so you might not the rest of the world doesn't need to know but you

00:19:25.780 need to know you need to create these things for yourself and i yeah i'd say generally there max does

00:19:30.500 publish his as an example but i mean i wouldn't encourage everyone to do that yeah this is for you it's

00:19:36.420 really only for you so then what's the next step well the 80 of the book is doing okay 80 of it

00:19:46.660 now we do we do spend some time in the book dispelling myths about how the world works everyone

00:19:50.660 thinks you know you climb the ladder to success yeah yeah you know uh it doesn't really work that way

00:19:56.420 um so we we dispel a lot of myths around that we we explain how economics really works so that they

00:20:02.340 don't make bad decisions early on with debt and they understand the value of savings they understand

00:20:07.140 you know the dollar and issues with that just just the core fundamental things we think that they

00:20:12.740 have to know i mean really this was this book is at its core a dad who loves his son best attempt

00:20:20.820 to say this is what i think you need to know now this is the best this is there's more you'll need to

00:20:25.940 know way more but right now this these are things that would be really useful to you so so there's that

00:20:31.620 context built in the first part of the book which is the philosophy and some education but then the

00:20:36.980 next part is all about doing and when the doing we break it in because we figure we're essentially

00:20:42.020 competing with college so we use four years we break down the four years into quarters we call them

00:20:47.700 cycles a cycle has a theme and each cycle includes an anchor activity that's what we call it which is like

00:20:56.500 which is an adventure really uh it's it's it's doing something challenging but you where you walk

00:21:02.020 away in most cases with a a skill of real economic value that you could go get a job on if with that

00:21:08.580 alone if you wanted to but we discourage it at this time but we think stacking these on top of each other

00:21:14.900 has a greater impact to do that um so you have the anchor activity and we think everyone of course as

00:21:22.020 we do believe in education we just don't really believe in college uh as a place where you really

00:21:26.580 get that so and especially today i mean you know mit publishes its entire course catalog online yale

00:21:34.580 a bunch of stuff online you can take yale's mba program if you want i mean it's all this it's

00:21:39.460 available for free or next to free so you have lots of academics in there yeah i mean that's the one

00:21:45.700 thing i i don't know if you're that familiar with charlie kirk but uh uh he was a friend of mine and i

00:21:50.820 kept watching him and i know he didn't go to college and i kept every time i'd see him i'm like

00:21:54.740 how are you learning all this and he took 19 courses for free with his hillsdale he could quote

00:22:00.820 every classic he i mean he was a disciplined mind and it just came from him doing knowing what he wanted

00:22:08.100 to learn and then doing it and pursuing it every single day and it didn't cost me he was it wasn't in

00:22:13.860 debt i mean it was a remarkable testimony to me on what somebody can do if they just set their mind to

00:22:19.620 it if they want to do it i agree when you see him speak and the things he's able to draw to mind

00:22:25.780 so easily shows that he was that that's what a real education is he pursued things out of his

00:22:31.140 own curiosity his own desire thirst for knowledge rather than this is the course catalog and this is

00:22:37.060 what i'm doing so because you say these cycles they each teach you can you give me an example of

00:22:42.180 some of the cycles sure yeah i mean out of the 16 we have different many different kind of genres in

00:22:51.060 it there's the fighter cycle which you're training muay thai in thailand for three months there's the

00:22:56.020 heavy equipment operator cycle where you go to florida to learn to become heavy equipment operator and

00:23:02.340 operate tons of different equipment which you get certified in and then turn into your job if you

00:23:07.220 wanted it to there's the emt cycle where which is probably one of the cheapest um next to the

00:23:12.020 fighter cycle where you become a certified emt um there's also an entrepreneur cycle an investor cycle

00:23:19.620 um there's a welder cycle exactly there's this great place in maine called the shelter institute

00:23:24.660 where you design and build a home in three weeks wow i mean in the third week you only you put up a

00:23:30.660 timber frame only you're not doing all the final you know finishing of the home obviously in that time

00:23:35.460 period but the design part the two weeks you'll know how to design your own home out of that and

00:23:44.180 i mean it's a great program they have and so that's one of the cycles you know there's there's a welder

00:23:48.980 cycle uh you know there's and we have a cycle where we say you should work uh because along the way you're

00:23:54.500 going to be presented with opportunities and some of them you're going to want to pursue for a few months

00:23:59.620 just to kind of see and for maximum after you became an emt sort of and these opportunities

00:24:05.060 sort of come to you the more you do in the world uh someone showed up and said hey i see you're

00:24:10.260 qualified to do that you know i own a wildfire wildland ems company and then i so the next year

00:24:17.220 he brought me on and i worked on wildfires the next year earning 600 a day

00:24:21.860 so it was uh like a crazy opportunity out of the blue that i took a 1500 four month long emt course

00:24:29.780 became certified and then it translated over to something wild like that yeah and when you say

00:24:35.460 four month long it was half half a day two days a week for four months exactly exactly yeah so what

00:24:42.420 are you doing the rest of the time are you just like you're taking these courses but

00:24:47.220 what else are you filling your day with so it's a good it's a good question because your day is full

00:24:53.940 i mean unlike where a university 12 credit hours is considered full time yeah which is why you see so

00:25:00.980 you know i mean i went i went into college from the army and so it was like i was shocked by that

00:25:06.740 everyone was sitting around doing nothing all the time when i got on campus right like it's like 80

00:25:11.220 hanging out uh this is 40 basically we plan for 40 hours a week you know 40 productive hours a week but

00:25:16.580 this is but which is just normal i mean this isn't even entrepreneurship work right this is normal

00:25:21.940 work but things count like uh reading there's lots of reading assignments in here and lots of we have

00:25:29.540 a whole library of other things we encourage you to read that is like electives essentially but that

00:25:34.580 we have a there's a whole section on different activities that a lot of them could be anchor courses

00:25:40.020 themselves but we just you know but but but we want people to have exposure like a renaissance man

00:25:47.700 would to lots of different things so like we encourage people to learn to draw first or and

00:25:52.340 take a painting class or learn to play chess scuba dive rock climbing whatever i mean there's a whole

00:25:59.060 bunch of different things in there that we that we recommend are good to get exposure to when you're young

00:26:04.900 you know just broad based and somebody will will like call to you more but if you don't get exposure

00:26:09.860 to them if you don't understand that they exist and they seem so foreign to you you know you'll never

00:26:15.380 know to explore them further so you so there's a certain amount of time set aside for these types of

00:26:20.340 activities every week and there's a certain amount of time set aside for reflection and this has been a

00:26:26.260 really important part of it because it's reflection and accountability maximum when he first started what he did is

00:26:31.780 he i said after a couple months i said why don't you start publishing what you did this week on

00:26:37.300 substack just that's it just a list of what you got done it's a public accountability essentially

00:26:43.940 you know of what you're trying to do in a certain week and now it's along the way he ended up you know

00:26:48.740 there's thousands of people who subscribe to what he's doing now and it's gone from basically this

00:26:53.380 list that meant nothing to anyone but him and i i guess to uh now he's actually become quite a

00:26:59.540 competent writer and you know has his own ideas and writes about those ideas there and so that

00:27:06.020 we encourage everybody to do this to do the same because that accountability piece ultimately you

00:27:11.140 know you're swimming you've done this your whole life glenn but like it's not normal to swim against

00:27:16.660 the tide like it's very hard for people to do this yeah right i mean yeah so that's why college is easy

00:27:23.140 you're you feel like you're succeeding even if you're failing for four years you know because even if

00:27:28.180 you're on a track that will lead to failure if you tell your friends and family and neighbors about

00:27:32.980 it they'll say you know good job johnny you're on the right track i mean you don't even know the feedback

00:27:37.460 loop this isn't there this feels very different it feels more like the way your life was early on or mine

00:27:44.500 yeah and you uh you're you're saying that you want to finish the four years because the

00:27:51.140 the point is to be completely rounded right yeah and of course there are many things that you could

00:28:00.020 pursue beyond this in my and i i bet that the person who builds the habits of max who has started where

00:28:06.420 he has and is two years into this but it will never really end right never really because you'll i mean

00:28:14.340 the learning of course never ends but like this these habits of putting yourself in totally new

00:28:20.740 situations and being comfortable feeling stupid as you learn new skills uh that that habit will be so

00:28:27.620 ingrained um already he is way better at now i would say than way better than me now at going into these

00:28:36.900 throwing himself into these crazy new experiences i mean one of them was for instance he didn't mention

00:28:42.100 a sailing cycle on the sailing cycle he sailed around the falkland islands he was thrown in the

00:28:47.940 deep end he'd never been on a sailboat before okay uh we're on the falkland islands and through the

00:28:52.900 strait of magellan wait wait wait wait wait how are you with a team are you what what what what happened

00:29:02.020 what happens there yeah it was well this is part of the reason why you people we ask people to uh

00:29:07.540 publish on substack for example is because you get these random opportunities so from that um an

00:29:14.740 ex-military guy sailor and author matt bracken recommended to me that i um basically do this

00:29:22.740 competent crew course with this um high latitude famous high latitude sailor and his crew um and so i

00:29:32.260 from here in uruguay i had to hop over to chile get stuff and then fly to the falklands and that's

00:29:39.380 where they had their their boat uh 72 foot big two foot long uh boat basically a schooner and uh that's

00:29:48.420 where we started the the trip with the crew and you knew nothing when you got on the boat

00:29:54.580 i knew absolutely nothing about sailing no nothing what do you do what do you what do you know now

00:30:02.500 well i think i know a lot more about the basics of of sailing especially because it was so it was such

00:30:10.740 a different place to sail you know most people start off maybe sailing in the great lakes or around

00:30:16.820 florida and calm waters but when you're sailing at 50 degrees south latitude it's very rough

00:30:23.780 um so i'd say especially the fact that it was about 21 days of sailing overall i think i know

00:30:32.500 no more than most what was there anything that you've thrown yourself into the u.n this was a mistake

00:30:38.100 uh yeah yeah yeah i would say it was this year i got another random opportunity to work on a geophysics

00:30:48.980 crew in nevada and for an exploration mining company and it sounds a lot fancier than it is

00:30:57.860 because it's mainly just grunt work you have to lay out kilometers of wire in the desert and basically

00:31:05.060 send electrical signals through the ground to pick up any anomalies and this company was looking for

00:31:10.500 gold or silver or copper and uh we laid down this wire day after day had countless problems broken

00:31:18.900 down trucks people getting hurt one guy got shocked and there's several amps running through this wire so

00:31:24.900 he he could have died actually it was probably only his wedding ring that saved him

00:31:30.020 wow redirecting the crew away from his heart everything went wrong they could have went wrong

00:31:35.460 basically and it was um not a great crew to work with either so i did so it's kind of

00:31:43.060 parts of that for years advanced hearing aids have come with a catch endless appointments tiny little

00:31:51.060 batteries um complex apps on your phone that feel like they were designed for somebody else

00:31:55.860 and it's amazing how many companies just turn something as simple as hearing into a science

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00:32:57.220 today that's audionhearing.com so um do you have any of these light or is this just something that

00:33:08.180 the average you know 18 year old with their dad is supposed to go i don't know let's go

00:33:13.300 here to work on a ranch for a while what how does this work yeah so so so there's these random

00:33:20.980 opportunities like you said the geophysics one that came up that because you will be presented

00:33:26.500 with random opportunities you may want to pursue them but you mean that's wait wait wait that's just

00:33:30.820 because you're working with people working around people and say and they're interested and they're

00:33:35.300 like hey you know what i i have an idea you should go do this that kind of random also because

00:33:41.300 he's publishing what he's doing and so he's developed people that say hey you know if you're

00:33:46.100 interested in that you're doing this interesting stuff you might want to try this you know and so

00:33:50.420 actually it really comes from readership okay as much as anything else okay but but the core of the

00:33:58.180 program is we have it was very random for him especially at first but what we've done is we've turned

00:34:05.060 what his what was random for him into 16 structured cycles where we tell you exactly where to go

00:34:12.100 like the shelter institute exactly the people that he went with the sailing expedition we don't tell

00:34:18.820 you what exact emt program to go to because there's one in almost anywhere you live you know you'll

00:34:25.060 be able to find one but the heavy equipment operations school that's there there's this great

00:34:29.860 cooking school where in in italy where you go to one of my favorite cities in the world you go to

00:34:34.980 florence uh and mine too i'm on learning to yeah so i mean if you and at the time and these cycles are

00:34:42.180 structured in such a way that uh they have a theme so you're we try and as much as possible layer in

00:34:48.740 academics that are relevant to where you are and what you're doing so that it makes sense makes sense and

00:34:54.020 so of course you can imagine the types of academic that we would recommend if you're spending that

00:34:59.300 much time in florence yeah right you're surrounded by this great roman history this great art i mean

00:35:05.220 it's a you know so much so any economic history like crazy yeah well that's yeah yeah yeah let's all so

00:35:12.500 we lay out exactly what's exactly what they do so there is you don't have to think about it now every

00:35:17.860 every single cycle has room for electives where you fill in what you want to do but the base anchor

00:35:23.380 course where it is how much it costs how you can sign up for it that's all laid out in there so

00:35:30.260 there do each of these cycles have you picked the things that go into these cycles to teach a man

00:35:39.220 something radically different it's not like you're just looking i mean each of these cycles has meaning

00:35:46.980 behind it i'm i'm guessing

00:35:48.980 well do you want to answer that you want me to um i don't know if they each have an individual meaning

00:35:59.140 um a deeper meaning behind it i think it's just the building of great skills that translate and

00:36:06.260 interconnect across various aspects of life to like you said glenn make make a more well-rounded man

00:36:13.460 overall that is the deeper meaning behind everything the deeper means is like helping

00:36:18.660 them actually understand it by putting them in high contact with the world to so they can understand

00:36:26.100 reality like what's real in the world and how do things really work in the world and how can i

00:36:32.660 create within that world that's that's but it's like there is no deeper meaning in an emt uh certification

00:36:39.220 other than the fact that you if you happen to find yourself in an unfortunate situation that you're

00:36:44.260 the guy who knows what to do right i mean there's great value in that but there isn't like you know

00:36:49.380 any deeper meaning in it but but we love that's where he started was with the emt one and and we

00:36:55.540 think that's a great place to start for everybody because it you know because honestly that's such a

00:37:00.180 great skill to have and so few have it anymore and um it's easy for everyone to do it doesn't cost much

00:37:07.860 and you can do it from wherever you're from you know if you're staying with your parents you can

00:37:11.300 do it now what does this cost you for four years if you did everything that we outline in here it's

00:37:19.300 about 72 000 over four years okay now there are two courses in here that are anchor courses that are

00:37:26.580 very expensive and one is getting your private pilot's license wow which you don't that's fantastic yeah

00:37:33.060 yeah you're like how many hours are you into that now uh about 30 30 something hours into that

00:37:40.500 and then the sailing course i guess the heavy equipment operator course is a little little

00:37:45.300 expensive too but again we we tell people to work along the way and make money along the way i mean

00:37:51.860 before or go while going to emt school i worked at office depot i worked as a pizza delivery driver

00:37:57.460 then later i worked on wildfires worked for the geophysics crew and then have made a little bit

00:38:04.260 of money riding along the way so it's all supposed to be about working in uh during it so you can pay

00:38:10.100 your way through it like you used to be able to do with college right but i say go ahead i was just

00:38:15.940 saying i i like you i grew up poor nothing you know lots of hardship he hasn't had to grow up in that

00:38:23.700 environment i'm grateful that he hasn't had to grow up in that bad environment but um i saved an

00:38:30.100 irresponsibly small amount of money for him considering the obvious you know i could if

00:38:34.500 i could pass along this much money every year right you know without gift tax like i didn't save even

00:38:38.660 that much for him uh enough for basically one year at a really good school maybe but today he has more

00:38:45.860 money than he did when he started two years ago and i think this is that a lot of people see this and

00:38:50.420 they go oh yeah okay so kind of rich guy is basically sending his son to go do all this stuff

00:38:55.700 uh no he wouldn't need money to do it um it's something the biggest thing we try and teach people

00:39:01.700 in this economic section is understand debt and liabilities and it's like listen at 18 you are free

00:39:08.900 you don't have to do not take a car loan do not right do not sign a lease like you do not do not take

00:39:16.020 on these liabilities that then require you to get a job just to be able to survive like and so he's

00:39:22.020 stayed with friends and family you know uh wherever he's gone to do these things that

00:39:27.300 didn't require him to do it and done it on the cheap i mean he's become very resourceful and thrifty

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00:40:31.780 tell me about the economic courses what what is that cycle like what do you where do you go or what do you

00:40:37.060 learn for investing uh yeah the one on investing um yeah we have them read uh several books on the

00:40:45.060 topic we have them uh take a markets course from yale uh and then a lot of it is essentially they set

00:40:52.420 up their own uh essentially a paper trading account as they're going through it and they get so they get

00:40:57.940 to experience experiment and understand how the markets work and of course the markets are not working

00:41:02.420 now if you ask me yeah it's a kind of a financial guy yeah um but well they're working they're just

00:41:09.060 they're just a little rigged there's no price discovery back it is right maybe in gold um you

00:41:15.860 know so uh so that's the reality but we do want them to understand how to allocate capital obviously if

00:41:22.580 they say their savings and we're not we in the earlier part of the book not part of a cycle when we

00:41:27.940 spend a lot of time talking about economics i mean you know it's the you know more of the austrian

00:41:34.260 school of economics and talking about right or where you should keep your savings and things like that

00:41:40.100 so um it would show them specifically the explain inflation and money printing and how all that works

00:41:46.500 and by by using a you ever seen this uh website it's wtf happened in 1971.com no you ever seen that

00:41:56.100 website no it's great it's great they have the they have so many charts that show not just how prices

00:42:03.940 have changed of course because that's an obvious thing but it shows a lot of not obvious things

00:42:08.900 family formations how that started to collapse incarceration started to really skyrocket all these

00:42:15.860 social problems that are caused by the disconnection of money from reality in 1971 and so we just we we

00:42:24.260 we show them a little you know we don't want to go too far too deep into this we want to make sure

00:42:28.500 they understand it because it's really really important because they can never get ahead if

00:42:33.140 they under if they especially if you take on debt in that environment and even i would and i even think

00:42:38.740 liabilities like rent for a young person is if you don't need to you know we live in latin america so

00:42:46.420 it's very common that a young man would live with his parents until they get married now i found this

00:42:52.580 shocking when i learned this at first i am like you're 30 years old you're a successful lawyer and

00:42:57.300 you live at home with your mother yeah you know and your father and and and he was like well of course

00:43:02.340 i do why wouldn't i and um but but in in the us at least under the tradition i grew up under was 18.

00:43:10.340 you're out one is expected one is expected to move along yes and it it changes it changes everything

00:43:16.820 changes the dynamics of the family it it it changes everything i think we'd be much better off if we

00:43:23.860 you know not in the same situation more like it probably is in latin america less like it would be

00:43:29.860 here in america where you're just playing video games in your mom's basement that's not yeah that's

00:43:35.860 not healthy that's not no that's obviously not healthy but you know i think glenn i really believe

00:43:40.820 that a lot of this um these problems we see in young men today where they like that's they might end up

00:43:45.860 there it's because they don't see a few anything that they could do that would actually be you know

00:43:55.540 to be somebody they have to do something worthy of being somebody and that there's nothing presented

00:44:01.300 in front of them that can show them the way i mean all the paths fundamentally are you know just join

00:44:08.020 the military go to trade school go to college trade school nothing an honorable thing to do military

00:44:14.100 can be honorable for sure like all that uh but but all of those mostly you can argue that the army

00:44:21.220 you know the military has a another additional component but fundamentally they're designed to get

00:44:25.940 you a job so that you can become hopefully economically independent which is important but economically

00:44:33.700 independent is the least important form of independence you want in a young man you want an independent thinker

00:44:40.980 an independent doer a person who has a sense of agency and and like embraces personal responsibility

00:44:48.180 that all comes first before financial independence and is a natural byproduct of it i i personally think

00:44:55.940 i mean you have to be a chick magnet to some degree as well because you are so well-rounded

00:45:02.500 and you can go anywhere you know probably parents would really like you you know when you meet a girl they

00:45:07.300 probably love you because you're so well-rounded well thought out um uh and you're not just the

00:45:13.540 typical boy that never seems to grow up you're a pilot you're a heavy construction worker you're a thinker

00:45:23.540 right exactly i mean especially when you look around at like at a world of at least in the us of

00:45:29.460 people who don't know how to do anything yeah and then there's this guy who knows how to seemingly do it

00:45:34.740 all it's like holy cow you know that's exactly what tom wood said actually he said oh women must love

00:45:40.820 you yeah yeah um the uh when you're putting this together and you're working and you're doing so

00:45:49.140 many different things did you did you think when you were preparing this in some ways about ai that we

00:45:55.940 are all going to have to live this way we there's nothing that's going to last you have to be able to

00:46:01.300 adapt all the time um you may work seven ten fifteen different careers or jobs uh over the your

00:46:10.820 lifetime where that's a new kind of thing this seems to put you it seems to build that core of

00:46:20.100 change is not a bad thing i can change it's no big deal i can i can do anything if that doesn't work

00:46:25.700 i'll just do this right was that intentional it does we we have two chapters in here one is uh how

00:46:32.100 to future proof future proof yourself and with and the whole discussion is around ai um we we actually

00:46:40.100 take an example of probably the most financially lucrative career of the last uh 20 years or so

00:46:46.980 would be it to go into finance and we show how those jobs are going to all those entry-level finance

00:46:54.500 jobs are absolutely going to be destroyed absolutely and so this one that went from the most lucrative

00:47:00.820 is going to go to the there isn't anything here very quickly and so we demonstrate that to just to

00:47:07.060 show people what's coming um then there's a chapter that's on we call it hacker you're not really hacking

00:47:14.340 but basically you're learning to use these tools to build things so like just like i want you to be

00:47:19.380 able to build a house in the real world or just not that you have to but to have to understand how

00:47:23.940 it works and you could do it yeah um we want you to build in the virtual world too like if you have

00:47:28.740 an idea for a product you'll know how to use these tools to create now they're changing constantly but

00:47:34.900 not to see them as something we don't want anything in the world to seem like closed off to you

00:47:40.500 foreign to you and inaccessible to you and so the technology is a big part of that

00:47:44.740 so and there's another part of that one other cycle we didn't mention was one where have you

00:47:50.500 ever heard of fab labs no so this comes out of mit and they're all over the country and uh all over

00:47:57.860 the world in fact and basically they have nine different machines where you can manufacture

00:48:04.260 basically anything on not on a scale basis but on a bespoke basis you know just on a one-off basis

00:48:10.420 anything from circuit boards to a chair i mean it's unbelievable with these nine machines which

00:48:16.580 you can do and these things are open to the public i mean you can go in you can use them it's part of

00:48:21.220 the deal with this and they're all connected globally yeah fab labs so that's one one of the cycles is

00:48:28.260 is going in and actually making something and learning to use these machines at one of these fab labs

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00:50:12.340 jefferson's letter to his nephew peter carr ever have either of you ever heard of it you should read it

00:50:19.300 he wrote a letter to his nephew peter carr 17 i don't remember 60s i think um his mother had just died

00:50:29.860 and uh now his father is getting sick so he goes to jefferson who learned like you did uh was you know

00:50:38.580 just learned from different people and learned all kinds of different stuff and uh he came to him and he

00:50:45.460 said thomas you're the smartest man i know i'm dying help my son become a man and an educated man

00:50:53.300 so he sat down and he wrote in mathematics in philosophy in all of these different categories these are

00:50:59.860 the things that you must master if you want to be a man this is how to think um and the last one uh

00:51:09.140 changed my entire life um he said when it comes to religion above all things fix reason firmly in her

00:51:19.700 seat and question with boldness even the very existence of god for if there be a god he must

00:51:25.700 surely rather honest questioning over blindfolded fear that was almost treasonous to say that back then

00:51:33.780 but it shows it shows how you have to be honest in your search for everything you know and how

00:51:43.220 important that is who keeps you honest in this i mean because i would assume the goal is you keep

00:51:52.260 yourself honest um but they're also i mean i know me well enough to know you know last night i was gonna i

00:52:01.140 started a course on art at hillsdale and last night my wife and i we were having dinner and i'm like

00:52:07.380 we're gonna do this course and we never ended up doing it who keeps you honest how does that work

00:52:17.060 i think you should answer this well i mean what what we encourage people to do is this weekly what i

00:52:22.420 did this week and that by publishing it and i think it's important to publish it and we encourage

00:52:28.020 everybody we show them how to do it on substack and we'll connect all these people to over time

00:52:32.020 that are doing it but but that public ultimately we are the only ones that that can hold ourselves

00:52:39.460 accountable we have our own standards for ourselves and often our standard for ourselves is higher

00:52:45.300 frankly than what other people would even have for us so i i think ultimately it's up to us but that

00:52:51.620 public accountability that process of writing it down every week there were several weeks with him

00:52:55.780 he's like he was just like i don't i don't want to do it you know i don't want to do it i don't want

00:53:03.460 to i don't want to i don't want to do it this week i don't even know if it makes any sense for me to

00:53:06.740 keep publishing this and i'm like are you disappointed with how you did this week you know yeah yeah how did

00:53:12.660 you get through that well it was motivating especially as there's more and more people paying attention

00:53:19.620 because you're like oh now i definitely have to do better um so it was just getting through it was

00:53:26.180 just about doing more honestly because then i enjoyed writing it i enjoyed writing what i was

00:53:30.500 doing and i enjoyed explaining uh what i was learning so just doing more actually was the way to get

00:53:37.140 through it all and you just you adjust you know you learn well well what didn't go well okay i'll make

00:53:43.540 some adjustments and it's that constant course correction that gets you to the place you want to be and

00:53:47.620 you know what he what he realized over time is that he had all these people that were watching what

00:53:53.140 he was doing publicly i mean just again starting off with just a list and rooting for him you know

00:53:59.700 and when he would write sometimes they have a hard time and people be like he's very very transparent

00:54:03.860 about it people are like oh yeah it's very surprising people are like no don't worry they'll get

00:54:08.420 through it it's no big deal there's no grades there's no judging you're the judge right

00:54:12.420 yeah i mean there are certifications like you know for the emt thing obviously yeah you have to

00:54:19.620 fail the exams on that but i mean in life there are no grades yeah yeah you know then this is

00:54:25.380 yeah i mean you're not going to get kicked out of the school that doesn't really that doesn't really

00:54:29.860 exist um are there with no diploma is there because there's not with me i i've never asked anybody you

00:54:42.820 know about their college uh in fact in some ways and i just read this is true in some ways big companies

00:54:49.300 are now looking at ivy league diplomas and staying away from them because they're like oh well you've

00:54:54.900 learned all the wrong stuff right now um is there any is there any use for are there any diplomas that

00:55:05.780 you think will last and will mean something well i personally i think that any diploma that is in a

00:55:14.660 highly regulated industry is still going to be required obviously like being a doctor or a lawyer

00:55:19.540 you know um certainly uh things that require lots of lab work so stuff in the stem category uh is

00:55:28.660 absolutely still necessary and if but if you know that you want to go into those things at 18 you're a

00:55:33.140 rare 18 year old honestly yeah most people at 18 have no idea what's possible let alone what they want

00:55:38.660 to do within those infinite possibilities some people say that's i mean i went to college when i was 30 because

00:55:45.460 i knew what i wanted to learn at that point you know what i mean i knew i like i don't know anything

00:55:51.300 about this and i know i want to learn i think that's when education is really important uh and and and i think

00:56:00.340 what you've developed is is better um but when you kind of know what you want to learn uh then you can go and

00:56:07.620 spend the money this way you're constantly constantly uh learning um which i think is a

00:56:16.740 much better habit throughout life because i'm starting i'm trying to pick that back up now i

00:56:22.180 kind of went through a period of like 20 years where i'm like i'm just doing just doing and i was doing

00:56:26.820 and learning and i think you should always do and learn otherwise you just stop

00:56:31.300 right yeah no you're totally right about that yeah and i mean the thing is is that uh college

00:56:40.660 is exactly the opposite of that it's not doing and there might be some learning that gets picked up or

00:56:45.300 along the way but essentially what i you know i dropped out after three semesters so like it's not

00:56:49.780 like i'm a college expert and doug our co-op you know he went to georgetown i mean he's highly educated

00:56:55.140 but even he says way back when he went it was a waste of uh his misallocation of capital he said

00:57:02.820 his time and money his parents money and is to do that is is that partly because you're going to find

00:57:08.180 yourself i mean now you hear that all the time what is the difference between shaping yourself and

00:57:14.820 finding yourself well yeah i don't think you'll ever find yourself uh i you know suddenly peek around

00:57:23.300 the corner there i am right yeah i don't think that works that way right but i mean ultimately

00:57:28.900 and also and ultimately that's like an accident that's uh it's a very disempowering thing i'm like

00:57:33.380 i'm number one major into personal responsibility that's the most important thing and people see that oh

00:57:40.820 so you're taking on lots of burdens yes and you're also taking on personal agency i can change it i'm

00:57:46.820 responsible for this even if i don't like it i can do something about it and and by you know the

00:57:52.500 personal code beginning first with small things set of rules then something to aspire to something

00:57:58.900 worthy something noble you might i don't know if you know joel saladin is he's this crazy regenerative

00:58:05.140 farming guy he's very popular in the u.s i love him he's uh um lucky enough to host him here on our

00:58:10.420 farm actually for a little while um this is one of the cycles is it not yeah it is yeah explain for

00:58:17.460 anybody who doesn't know what it is explain what it is well joel saladin is a regenerative farmer who

00:58:23.940 actually unlike most american farmers today because they produce these commodities at scale

00:58:28.900 with lots of inputs uh joel makes a lot of money for his relatively small farm um i mean it's something

00:58:35.860 like a 100 x per acre wow a typical farm and he is but he's a born teacher and so he has you know

00:58:45.700 he's in a great he has this program where essentially you basically intern for him uh during you know

00:58:51.780 for a season and you learn about all the things on the farm now this is a hard program to get into

00:58:56.660 because joel saladin is like you know people you know he's a lot to the guy right yeah but there are

00:59:03.460 lots of these types of farms throughout the country people that are that are i'm a student

00:59:08.580 of joel salads and we have a regenerative cattle ranch here in uruguay i mean i would you know

00:59:14.020 there are many students of his what does that mean a regenerative farm what does that mean

00:59:20.820 it means the way it doesn't require inputs uh like you don't use fertilizer and seeds and you're

00:59:28.580 even said you use the animals and use the environment to make uh to create a virtuous

00:59:35.380 cycle with the property essentially where the animals supply the animals produce quite a bit of

00:59:40.500 uh fertilizer um use them well use them to shape the land you're constantly uh investing in

00:59:49.700 fundamentally making the soil better so as the soil gets better everything becomes more and more

00:59:55.140 bountiful every year it gets better and better and you don't you're not you're not subject to the

01:00:01.700 you know during covet when fertilizer prices skyrocketed and it really you know put people

01:00:07.780 like will their farm succeed this year or not because they were subject to these input prices

01:00:12.500 it kind of frees you of those things now it might make you less efficient in the first few years but

01:00:19.140 ultimately makes you very resilient and not in heart and you also produce higher quality food as far

01:00:23.940 as i'm concerned uh through that process so we think those are the good things to learn a lot

01:00:28.820 of these things like let's say you want to be a farmer or a cowboy we're not to say you want to be

01:00:32.580 work you know an emt or you want to be a sailor or a welder or a hacker or you know but all these

01:00:40.660 things stacked on top of each other again they remove the the mystery of the world and how it works

01:00:47.220 from you and you so you can see through it understand it and create in it so that's the whole point of it

01:00:53.540 i think it's fabulous i think it's really really great i can't thank you enough for sharing it and uh

01:00:59.300 and best of luck and i'm looking forward to seeing you in 10 years and seeing what you're going to be

01:01:04.340 like and doing in 10 years it's great thank you glenn you bet well i gotta say one last thing again i

01:01:11.540 i have as a dad been able i've been able to watch him as this anxious uncertain maybe even scared

01:01:19.940 17 year old to what he is now already after two years in the program somewhere along the line

01:01:26.260 and in almost every way he went from being a boy to being a man i mean it's remarkable i can't

01:01:32.340 pinpoint the point it's probably after the sailing thing actually um but there's something that

01:01:37.620 he's just not the same person he was and uh it's awesome to see and i can't wait for the next 10

01:01:43.140 years honestly as his father i'm very proud of it i'm stopping the podcast with you to go call my son

01:01:51.300 uh you've you've convinced me i i i we'll see we'll see what he says but i think this is fabulous

01:01:58.020 guys thank you awesome thank you thank you appreciate it very much you bet bye-bye

01:02:08.420 just a reminder i'd love you to rate and subscribe to the podcast

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The Glenn Beck Program - October 18, 2025

Ep 270 ｜ How to Make Men DANGEROUS Again ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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