The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 271 ｜ Jillian Michaels Exposes the REAL Biggest Losers

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00:00:49.160 all right fatties listen up two out of three adults in the u.s are overweight or obese and if we don't

00:00:56.320 do something it's only downhill from here big pharma big food they say eat your twinkies get your yearly

00:01:02.880 covid shot uh give little boys little pink estrogen and have pregnant women drink tylenol from a straw

00:01:09.480 as we speak these companies are actually plotting how to keep you sick and fat for profit this is stuff

00:01:18.440 five years ago i would have had a hard time embracing but the truth is the truth and my next

00:01:24.360 guest says it's time for a reckoning to whip this nation into shape before we're too soft to defend

00:01:29.120 our own rights welcome fitness expert former trainer for the biggest loser and somebody i just absolutely

00:01:36.360 adore the host of keeping it real podcast jillian michaels

00:01:40.480 hello jillian hi how are you i'm doing great how are you i'm good i am i'm such a fan of yours my wife

00:02:03.360 told me last night if you don't tell her how much of a fan i am so hello from my wife as well

00:02:09.980 oh thank you so much tell her hello back from me yeah um can can we just start quickly i just want

00:02:16.820 to start at the beginning of because you you were just a fitness freak right and you didn't have an

00:02:24.200 intention of going into this and it kind of you just kind of fell into it well i actually would say

00:02:29.640 that i hated working out i still do but what i love is what it affords me i was an overweight kid

00:02:39.560 i was bullied in junior high my parents were getting a divorce when i was 13 i was going through a lot of

00:02:46.520 stuff and my mom had the foresight to get me into martial arts because she thought all right she needs

00:02:51.720 some sort of an outlet some sort of community where she can feel like she belongs and i began to

00:02:59.180 appreciate at a very young age without realizing the bigger lesson that when you feel strong

00:03:04.680 physically you feel stronger in every facet of your life yeah so as i was pursuing my black belt over

00:03:11.640 my teenage years i had graduated high school early not because i'm some sort of a genius but just because

00:03:16.780 my birthday falls on a weird date and so i'm 17 and a half i'm training for my black belt and people

00:03:23.660 would see me at the gym and think i was a personal trainer so they started offering me an opportunity

00:03:30.400 to train them and my mom once again had the foresight to say i think you need some sort of a certification

00:03:36.660 to do this job and got me my first little certification and the rest as they say is history

00:03:42.660 so how did you get on to the biggest loser how did that happen um another very strange series of events

00:03:50.360 events so i had been a trainer until i was about 24 years old and of course growing up in california

00:03:56.860 everybody worked in the entertainment industry so i was dating somebody who worked in the entertainment

00:04:02.740 industry and said yeah i don't know what you're gonna do yeah you can't be a 30 year old trainer

00:04:06.960 what's what's your plan so i got out of fitness and into entertainment and i started working at a talent

00:04:14.680 agency there i worked my way into motion picture packaging and i began to learn about how to fund

00:04:21.680 projects i began to learn about branding i very clearly did not fit in this environment um and ended

00:04:29.880 up back in fitness by the time i was 27 working for a physical therapy center so i was doing pt under the

00:04:41.360 supervision of licensed physical therapists and uh i began to bring in people from the entertainment

00:04:47.840 industry i built this business up and thought i could do this myself i could open up my own sports

00:04:53.480 medicine facility and have all these doctors working for me right even though i was doing the actual work

00:04:59.500 of fitness under their license and their supervision so i ended up doing that and one of my friends

00:05:06.800 from that talent agency heard about biggest loser and suggested i go out for the job and i did and

00:05:15.960 somehow they ended up hiring me which to this day i still can't figure out why so i mean it's really

00:05:22.800 fascinating to me because you were i mean i just i loved you on that show um you were uh i think they

00:05:32.680 tried to make you into almost like what simon became um where you're a hard ass and i think i think gordon

00:05:42.600 ramsey also is like this and if you look at you and you see you now outside of that reality tv you look at

00:05:50.840 simon who is still in you know some sort of reality tv but he's not that way and both of you have something in common

00:05:58.120 where i think telling the truth is sometimes seen as really harsh and mean but you're not

00:06:05.680 mean so did the how did this reality thing work for you with being packaged as somebody who is just

00:06:15.800 vicious oh my gosh that's that's a great way to put it there's a quote um that says that which

00:06:23.440 nourishes me also destroys me so the platform is the reason i'm fortunate enough to be sitting here

00:06:31.280 speaking with you today and i will never negate that the platform uh allowed me to sell the fitness

00:06:38.440 programs and fitness apps and books globally i i will never negate that but unquestionably

00:06:46.400 there was a ceiling that i would hit when trying to step out of the darth vader role on biggest

00:06:55.600 right um and and you know to this day i look back and it's like well there's not a whole heck of a lot

00:07:03.280 i could have done different because i wouldn't have changed what i was doing on the show and i couldn't

00:07:08.560 control how they portrayed it so i have to imagine that what was meant to be was meant to be

00:07:16.160 and i'm where i am for a reason uh and i'm not too unhappy about that i i could i wish the world

00:07:22.760 was in a very different place but i'm grateful for where i am in it right so you know you gotta

00:07:29.260 take the good with the bad right i mean i kind of in a in some way i relate to that i i uh when i was

00:07:37.420 doing my thing it put me where i'm at um and many of it my mistakes and my presentation just

00:07:45.360 trying to be funny and changing things up um but also the way the industry can shape you

00:07:53.200 and you never get away from that it it's it is so unbelievable how the machine can just turn you

00:08:03.480 into something that you're just you're not you're not i think about that all the time and it confounds

00:08:12.580 me that people can't see through the propaganda and the narratives but you know what some do

00:08:22.400 and there's what like eight billion people on the planet i only need a handful of them

00:08:29.980 to cut through the noise and see the truth i would love it if more were able to especially with

00:08:39.040 characters like kennedy that one kills me because you got a guy who's very well-intentioned trying

00:08:46.780 to do good things and they just smear him and make him look like he's absolutely mentally ill i think

00:08:55.060 newsweek printed an article saying this is my favorite of all time that he eats dogs and i just thought

00:09:03.040 this is newsweek this is unhinged um but i'm hoping more and more people wake up i i'm also to be dead

00:09:16.740 honest very disappointed in the way many see charlie kirk you don't have to agree with all of his

00:09:23.160 positions but to call him oh he's a racist and he's a bigot and have you watched him i know have you

00:09:30.660 actually watched him did you listen to what he said about the civil rights act because it wasn't

00:09:35.820 about providing people of color with equal opportunity but they don't take the time and

00:09:41.520 that's that's very disappointing because it is breeding chaos in this country far outside of what

00:09:46.100 people think of me and whether or not they buy my freaking fitness app so i had somebody in my office

00:09:51.540 yesterday and um and they brought up charlie kirk in my office and they brought up charlie kirk and said

00:10:00.280 yeah but really who killed him and i i about lost my mind i about lost my mind and i said you're not

00:10:07.000 coming into my office and spreading bullcrap you know what is wrong with you um it is amazing to me

00:10:14.400 how how we've lost we've we've we have lost the ability to reason we've lost the ability to

00:10:24.120 we we are going and splitting into so many different tangents and so many different clubs of

00:10:30.220 of thought that you know we never went to the moon the jews killed charlie kirk i you know

00:10:38.360 rfk's eating dogs i mean 9-11 yes i mean it's like totally with you look i don't you don't have to

00:10:46.040 agree with everything and there are many things that need to be questioned but my gosh you know and and

00:10:51.960 and the problem is you don't know where to separate because for a long time i was i was fine with you

00:10:59.720 know better living through pharmaceuticals i didn't think the pharmaceutical companies would do what i

00:11:04.600 think they're doing you know i i didn't think our food companies would ever intentionally addict us to

00:11:11.960 things you know just didn't seem because i wasn't like that and i didn't know anybody that would be like

00:11:17.400 that but we're finding out that some of that is really true and it's very true right scary but i i

00:11:28.760 would say this much of this is about the machine and the machine has a bottom line and the machine

00:11:38.760 reports to wall street and so they need profit people are just cogs in that machine right and i don't

00:11:48.600 think these individuals are ill-intentioned but they definitely get caught up in these industries

00:11:57.320 and incentivized to like hey how many crunches on that chip are going to make it more appealing

00:12:06.760 you're a food scientist this is your job and you probably got into the business because you wanted

00:12:12.440 to facilitate some sort of invention i'll give you an example there's one called appeal that got a really

00:12:20.200 bad rap that is a coating on fruit and vegetables that allow the produce to not go bad for roughly a

00:12:31.160 week or so longer this would be great right and it's actually i ended up doing a deep dive into it and

00:12:36.600 it seems pretty uh pretty safe if you will okay let's say you get into the industry to do things

00:12:44.200 like this and to save the world and to feed the world and all of this good stuff but when you're

00:12:49.640 getting hired to incentivize people to drink more soda and to eat more chips that's unfortunately what's

00:12:59.400 going to pay your bills so how do you how do you know where the line is because i think

00:13:06.360 look america fed the world and you know we did all this gmo stuff we did everything but we fed the

00:13:14.280 world and so at the beginning it was a really good thing and somewhere along i don't know where but

00:13:21.960 somewhere along the line that changed and so i i just don't know where the line how do you how do

00:13:29.000 you know where the line is i'm actually writing a book about this right now um and it looks at the

00:13:38.760 ways in which our food policy our policy around big ag pharma big insurance at the ways in which these

00:13:48.040 industries captured well-intentioned legislation and inverted them and it does it's like oh

00:13:56.760 mechanization after the war and we have to feed europe and how can we manipulate this and how do

00:14:01.160 we manipulate natural disasters to to profit off a bit financially and how do we it's it's crazy

00:14:08.760 but the laws that were passed and it's it's so long i i would i would love to come back next year

00:14:13.720 oh please yes walking through it but it is absolutely nefarious because everything that was

00:14:19.800 passed with the best of intentions ended up getting in the wrong hands and subsequently manipulated to be

00:14:28.040 weaponized against the american people and of course you're seeing that spread out globally but in

00:14:34.200 particular we suffer the most here in the united states unquestionably we have the worst outcomes with

00:14:40.040 regard to health and we spend the most on health care there's reasons why so i i remember hearing

00:14:47.480 this long time ago and i was like come on that we are you know our food is addicting um and it's not

00:14:55.320 good and and our medicine is not really meant to heal us it's to keep us sick etc etc and i didn't believe

00:15:02.920 that but i do believe that i really do believe that now at least to some degree i don't know how much

00:15:09.320 is nefarious and how much just is you have a comment on that i i could make this very simple

00:15:18.760 if you deem profit over people as nefarious then it is okay and it is yeah that's that's what you're

00:15:27.720 seeing now now with that said when it comes to big food by the way you'd have to start at big ag

00:15:36.760 because it is a a catastrophic quartet of big ag then big food then big pharma and then big

00:15:44.600 insurance and it's just the way the system is designed unfortunately but if we were to look at

00:15:49.800 the ways in which they engineer the food there's something that most people will likely have heard

00:15:54.360 of called the bliss point and this was created by a food scientist in the 1970s to look at the

00:16:02.200 the perfect ratio of fat and sugar and salt to trigger the bliss point of our brain to make us

00:16:12.040 want more that is probably the least nefarious thing that has happened oh you're kidding me wow

00:16:21.720 no and um it's exceptionally unfortunate but the reality is that there is a multi-disciplinary team

00:16:28.840 of scientists and behavioralists and marketing experts that work around the clock trying to figure

00:16:37.560 out how to make you not eat just one that's that's not a slogan you can't eat just one that's a business

00:16:45.880 model period and even now just wrote an article about this actually in the daily mail the food companies

00:16:54.440 are trying to find a way to make these ultra processed foods now bypass your glp1 hormone

00:17:02.280 pathways because people taking weight loss drugs are breaking the addiction they are breaking the

00:17:10.120 addiction now i i of course there are side effects to that and it's exceptionally expensive and i i wish

00:17:15.400 we could do it in alternative ways that cost less and are healthier but nevertheless it is costing a

00:17:22.920 heck of a lot of money so what do they do all right how what are we going to do about this how are we

00:17:27.640 going to get around this how are we going to engineer these foods to bypass this which is insane

00:17:35.240 that's evil that's evil okay well that's happening so so i can tell you what's happening

00:17:42.280 and then you can ascribe any particular adjective that you like but that is the kind of stuff that is

00:17:48.600 happening and has been happening for decades i was thinking about this the other day um i was sitting

00:17:54.360 at the table we were having some hamburgers and i i looked at the ketchup bottle and i looked at the

00:18:00.040 ingredients and i'm old enough to remember i think at least this is the way i remember it the ingredients

00:18:08.040 of ketchup on heinz used to be tomatoes i think water vinegar salt and maybe a little sugar but that was

00:18:17.080 it and now it's stuff i've never even heard of and it's a paragraph of ingredients why did that happen

00:18:27.480 it happened for a host of reasons and by the way there's a lot on the tomatoes that were used in that

00:18:33.240 ketchup that you aren't seeing on the label so herbicides fungicides pesticides chemical fertilizers and

00:18:42.520 one little sidebar with regard to that stuff while all of us are engaged in these ridiculous

00:18:47.800 culture wars which unfortunately are serious but we're going after each other meanwhile the uniparty

00:18:56.040 in washington is giving complete blanket immunity to the chemical companies for things like glyphosate

00:19:06.200 which we know are exceptionally dangerous to human health so we're sitting here we're fighting about

00:19:11.560 men and women's sports unfortunately as we should be because it's not fair but crazy stuff is happening

00:19:17.960 right and i have to wonder is all of that by design to create such an insane distraction so all of these

00:19:24.120 chemicals you're not seeing on the ketchup bottle that are actually in there why has this ingredient list

00:19:31.000 expanded in the way that it has to make it taste even better so that you choose that bottle of

00:19:36.840 ketchup over this bottle of ketchup maybe to make it glow in a brighter color of red again so you're

00:19:43.000 more attracted to that bottle of ketchup over this bottle of ketchup to make it last on the shelf through

00:19:48.200 a zombie apocalypse because it's more profitable when you have less spoilage all of these different

00:19:54.600 reasons that all come down to profit how do we make it taste better how do we attract you more to it

00:19:59.880 how do we make it last longer on the shelf period end of story we're all getting older and i don't

00:20:06.920 know about you but i've definitely felt the aches and pains that come along with the kind of thing of

00:20:11.080 you know ouch aging uh used to suffer from horrible pain in my hands pretty much all the time and i went

00:20:17.320 to some of the best doctors in the world trying to get this to end um and i say i used to have it

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00:21:01.160 you want to do visit relieffactor.com 800 for relief 800 the number four relief my wife and i went over to

00:21:09.880 italy i don't know about a year ago and i never felt better um with the food i was not really hungry

00:21:19.240 you know what i mean there were smaller portions and i never felt you know like i need a big bowl

00:21:26.440 whatever uh and i like to eat um and it's not the same at all over there and i just saw a video of

00:21:36.200 a woman who said we had moved to italy we had a child she's four we just moved back to the united states

00:21:44.360 she said she keeps pushing everything away saying that's not chicken that's not tomatoes that's not

00:21:51.800 she said because we were buying everything you know at the farmer's market in italy and we were using

00:21:58.680 you know not this high processed food and she said i didn't realize because she was american i didn't realize

00:22:05.320 how different our food is over here oh yeah i mean if we just look at what's the most obvious example

00:22:16.440 being pasta here you've got genetically engineered wheat right you know the engineered soy genetically

00:22:25.320 engineered corn so on and so forth there you've got heirloom varieties of wheat that have been around

00:22:31.560 for thousands and thousands of years that we've adapted to eating over thousands of years it's

00:22:38.040 unlikely that they spray that wheat with even half of the garbage we put on our crops here because

00:22:47.160 a lot of it is illegal over in europe they allow the wheat to germinate before they harvest it and here

00:22:55.240 we do it too soon which is one of the reasons i think so many people have a gluten intolerance it's

00:23:00.760 very interesting they're not celiac but i've talked to many gastroenterologists and many doctors

00:23:07.720 who deal with autoimmune conditions and they think the fact that it's like well okay it's a genetically

00:23:12.600 engineered crop it's sprayed with all this stuff it hasn't had a chance to germinate or sprout we think

00:23:18.280 that this is creating gastrointestinal issues we don't know yet because nobody's funding specific

00:23:23.960 research about that stuff unfortunately because again it's not profitable and industry funds a large

00:23:28.520 amount of research which is great that said just look just look at the base of what you're starting

00:23:34.920 with just look at the base of that pasta before we get to all the garbage that's added to it so it can sit

00:23:42.040 on the shelf for two years right and all of the stuff that they're putting on top of it now in europe or

00:23:49.400 other parts of the developed world they have laws surrounding so many of these different chemicals that have

00:23:55.240 entered our food supply we have had something here now kennedy is reevaluating it called the grass rule

00:24:02.680 which is called the generally recognized as safe rule and it's a loophole with the fda that essentially

00:24:09.240 allows roughly 9 500 different chemicals and preservatives and food additives into our stuff

00:24:17.880 that's not allowed in other parts of the developed world and basically this gives big food the ability

00:24:24.040 to vouch for the safety of these ingredients so it is this safe oh it's generally recognized the safe

00:24:31.240 well who's got the date all big food says it's good it's good it's recognized the safe they said so

00:24:36.120 they did the work we believe it and that's how all of this stuff is in our food but not the food in

00:24:44.360 italy for example why do you go to canada and you have a box of fruit loops it's not the same it's

00:24:52.120 not the same ingredients right as it is here yeah why do we put all of that crap in our food

00:25:01.000 so when you go to canada and you look at the fruit loops the red little fruit loop is kind of like a

00:25:07.080 wah-wah and you know you're like it's like a little kind of like a blushed fruit loop yeah but our

00:25:13.000 fruit loop glows in the freaking dark our fruit loops are wow look at that like a disco but

00:25:20.520 freaking bowl of cereal oh my goodness and for kids if one cereal is a wah-wah and one cereal is disco

00:25:29.880 cereal and i like they are going that direction period that's what all the research shows so you're

00:25:37.960 gonna want your cereal to be chosen over their cereal and here in america you're allowed to do

00:25:44.200 it whereas in canada you're not why this has to do with citizens united it has to do with the fact

00:25:52.040 that these big corporations are allowed to buy our politicians a period this this doesn't happen in in

00:25:58.920 other parts of the world i think we would like one other country that allows for this kind of lobbying to

00:26:04.520 occur i can't remember which one i know there's i know new zealand is uh one of the only other places

00:26:11.240 that drug companies are allowed to advertise to the general population but that's not allowed in any

00:26:18.040 other part of the world it's not allowed for coca-cola to go and donate money to the you know the prime

00:26:26.920 minister in the uk you can't you can't do that there whereas here it's like he who has the most money wins

00:26:34.200 okay we're gonna give you 10 million dollars towards your campaign and when the time comes

00:26:39.560 we want you to push this legislation through that legislation through we all know this but when we

00:26:44.920 ask why here and not there it's a myriad of different things but that's top of the list

00:26:54.040 medicare costs are a silent thief thousands of your dollars just vanish if you pick the wrong plan and

00:26:59.640 there are lots of americans out there who have been taken in by slick advisors you know promising

00:27:04.200 great plans only to find out later that you know the co-pays are now bleeding them dry chapter is

00:27:08.920 different i met with these people personally i really like them i trust them i know how they founded

00:27:13.160 their whole company specifically because their own parents got horribly taken in with medicare programs

00:27:19.960 and advisors and they wanted to make sure that nobody else had that situation so it won't happen to

00:27:26.600 you at chapter they don't just guide you they search every plan from every character nobody else

00:27:32.920 does this with technology so sharp it cuts through all of the noise these are licensed advisors with no

00:27:38.760 hidden agendas other medicare advisors have to cherry pick plans that pad their pockets chapter puts you

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00:27:59.240 so are we going to be able to change this i mean you look at um you know you said rfk is made to look

00:28:05.320 insane honestly every time you you say something and i think i mean i agree with your stance on vaccines

00:28:12.280 etc etc can we just have a conversation about it can we just i mean there are some things that are so

00:28:18.440 obvious there's some like you know the the whole um you know the whole peanut allergy thing i don't

00:28:26.360 know what that's from but i will tell you it wasn't happening when i was growing up and we had peanuts

00:28:32.040 so you know there are things that are happening that are that everybody's like oh well i don't know

00:28:37.560 it's just the way it is no there's something happening and i don't know why we can't just have that

00:28:43.240 conversation but you're made to look insane on vaccine you are absolutely an anti-vaxxer and you're

00:28:50.520 not no i'm not at all i'm not at all and you know what's interesting is that the vaccine conversation is

00:28:57.560 a red herring kennedy said repeatedly i'm not going to take away your vaccines right and he hasn't taken

00:29:03.960 away your vaccines he removed a mandate for covid vax for kids in other words he had it removed from

00:29:13.240 the cdc's schedule when you do that what's on the schedule in most states is required for kids to go

00:29:21.640 to school so essentially by taking it off you remove the mandate that's because all of the science that

00:29:29.720 we're told to trust shows that the vaccine is contraindicated for kids that kids have a greater

00:29:36.440 risk of having a vaccine injury versus having a serious complication with covid this is not coming

00:29:42.360 from me this is coming from dr mccary dr baddacharya dr means i mean these are doctors that have gone to

00:29:49.480 stanford harvard these are not kooks or quacks these are just doctors that are brave enough to go against

00:29:56.680 the grain now why did they start that vaccine conversation because they could say oh look

00:30:02.600 look how crazy he's trying to kill you he's anti-science he's living in the dark ages don't

00:30:07.160 look over here at the fact that we are giving chemical companies immunity for glyphosate no

00:30:13.800 don't look over here don't don't look over here with regard to what's going on with your food

00:30:18.600 no no no no no no no no no don't look over here what's in your baby formula because kennedy is

00:30:23.800 opening up that whole can of worms with operation stork no nothing to see here just know that he's

00:30:29.880 a crazy anti-vaxxer and your child will die of measles to be dead honest with you this was never

00:30:35.960 a hill i wanted to die on i i never even thought anything of this i worked with so many different

00:30:41.640 doctors over the course of my career my kids were all vaccinated i never blinked twice but when they

00:30:47.640 started saying you can't ask the questions i started asking the questions yes and here's what

00:30:55.000 i'm going to say about the vaccine conversation and this is after interviewing epidemiologists

00:31:00.200 virologists pediatricians here's what we know for a fact this is not settled science and and i

00:31:10.680 strongly suggest that if anyone's curious there's a book by a pediatrician who has uh also his ms in

00:31:18.760 epidemiology i believe it's called worth a shot his name is dr joel warsh there is no study let's just

00:31:26.760 take hepatitis b there's no longitudinal safety study for hepatitis b with inert placebo or a community

00:31:36.520 of kids that were not vaccinated versus kids that were vaccinated it doesn't exist now hepatitis b is

00:31:45.560 a vaccine for a pathogen that we know you catch through risky unprotected sex and intravenous drug use

00:31:55.480 why are we giving it to kids on their first day of life well mom could have it but you could test mom

00:32:01.160 mom so so why are you doing still why if you can't ask that question or you can't ask why the schedule

00:32:09.000 got so much more aggressive after the drug companies were given blanket immunity in 1986 you can't sue

00:32:16.440 them for vaccine injuries the schedule got exceedingly more robust why is it too much too soon these are very

00:32:26.760 reasonable questions and it is simply not settled science period end of story is any science is any

00:32:35.480 is any science actually settled ever i mean science always seems to evolve our yeah we're not we're not

00:32:44.680 ever there i don't i don't understand when you can't question and it's so weird as a conservative

00:32:50.600 growing up as a conservative you know uh there's a lot of things that i thought ah that the that the

00:32:58.680 liberals had right and as i'm like as i'm looking at things i'm like wait a minute they had that one

00:33:05.480 right wait a minute the military industrial complex they had that one right and as i start to move that

00:33:11.080 way all of a sudden all the liberals are like we don't believe any of that stuff anymore we don't we

00:33:17.160 and you're like wait what's happening what's happening you were right why are you abandoning

00:33:22.760 this position you were right what is happening because those are not liberals so as you've maybe

00:33:30.200 moved a little in that direction true liberals like myself moved in your direction correct and i've met in

00:33:36.120 the middle you're talking about far leftists radicals woke progressives and that is not a traditional

00:33:44.200 liberal at all i i i am terrified by what that is what do you think that is ideology uh brainwashing

00:33:59.080 insane propaganda from politicians trying to rally a base against a common enemy legacy media you know

00:34:07.960 using rage bait for clicks um globalists manipulating the narrative so we fight with each

00:34:15.160 other instead of paying attention to the stuff that really matters and people fall for it just just the

00:34:21.160 way you and i were talking earlier they fall for it if i could tell you some of the insane things that

00:34:26.360 i've heard since trump took office in january and listen i i'm more than happy to tell you the things

00:34:33.160 about trump i wish he didn't do or i don't like like i am not a tribalist at all i i truly am an

00:34:38.840 independent i like to call balls and strikes yeah because i think it's what would give me authenticity

00:34:43.800 even if you don't like me i would hope that at least you trust i'm telling you what is my truth and

00:34:48.440 i'm not trying to manipulate you uh but people will say things to me like he's trying to take away women's

00:34:54.680 right to vote i wow i didn't i didn't know that tell me how how is that i'm so confused oh well you

00:35:02.440 see he's he wants a birth certificate uh for you to vote now and women change their name i'm like well

00:35:09.000 hold on i get on my trusty little computer and i hit up google and it turns out that you could show

00:35:14.760 proof of marriage or a name change and you could still vote and they're like well let's just see where

00:35:20.520 this goes i'm like why don't we actually do that right why don't we see where it goes before you

00:35:26.920 jump to these kinds of insane conclusions i i'll give you one more i was sitting with someone who i i

00:35:34.840 think is lovely uh and trying to convince me that the trump administration has put out a list of words

00:35:42.920 words and on this list of words is the word woman and any research that includes the word woman has

00:35:50.840 been canceled oh my god and i i said well you know listen i do know that a lot of research has been

00:35:56.280 cut it has to do with funding i'm not super happy about that there were things they moved too quickly

00:36:01.800 on like alzheimer's research like there are there are mistakes that were made even kennedy will tell you

00:36:05.960 listen you know we don't have the money for it like mistakes were made we're trying to put some of

00:36:09.800 these things back in place i wish they'd moved a bit slower on some of it there is no such list

00:36:15.480 i literally got home with my kids and i was like let's let's have a fun little thought experiment

00:36:20.040 shall we open up the computer and see if you can find me this list that has all of the words we're

00:36:27.000 not allowed to engage in research grants and do research on there's no list it's a mythic list it

00:36:34.920 doesn't exist but people don't take the time to get past the rhetoric from the gavin newsom's and

00:36:41.320 the jamie pritzker's and the cnn's they just ingest it and they become outraged and they act on that

00:36:49.240 outrage and it begets itself so i i understand i understand that i agree with what you're saying here

00:36:55.400 but there's there's another level to it you're saying you can't use the word woman but you can't

00:37:05.160 tell me what a definition of a woman is and you changed the a to a y in woman what are you talking

00:37:12.040 what are you talking about what are you talking about i mean you know it was amazing at discussing

00:37:19.800 this have you spoken to professor gad sad yes oh yeah i love him okay he like he does this better

00:37:26.280 than anyone else and he calls it suicidal empathy yeah and i noticed that i've always been prone to

00:37:33.720 this which is why i think i was a liberal my whole life on top of growing up in california and this is

00:37:39.880 just what you do this is who you are this is what we all are here and then when it stopped making

00:37:44.440 sense to me obviously i was able to step outside of that bubble and hopefully see things more for

00:37:51.880 what they actually are but with that said i still do notice a propensity for that so i see ice agents

00:37:59.080 getting doxxed and getting attacked and that same feeling of injustice and and rage and empathy comes up for

00:38:07.240 these guys because i'm thinking hold on a second you might not like what they're doing but their job is

00:38:13.240 to enforce laws and acted by congress and you're blaming the wrong guy now i have and and i i feel

00:38:19.640 very justified in that position by the way but this kind of outrage and identification is happening on

00:38:26.280 the left but it's happening for trans people and they don't have the ability to step outside of that

00:38:32.920 and have empathy for the biological females in sports or to have concern for the the children that

00:38:42.040 transitioned and are now detransitioning with regret that they've sterilized themselves or they have

00:38:46.920 permanent sexual dysfunction um there is a very bizarre identification and it breeds this suicidal

00:38:54.840 empathy that makes you incapable of seeing all sides and i think you have to be aware of these blind spots

00:39:01.720 when applying this empathy so when i when i look at these ice agents i'm like well i do feel terrible

00:39:07.320 for good people who want a chance at a better life but instead i want to go about it with regard to

00:39:13.080 who am i going to vote for that's going to reform policy to get bad guys out and give an opportunity

00:39:18.040 for good guys to help us grow the economy and let the culture thrive um but that is what's happening

00:39:24.680 it is an identification with who they perceive as a victim that becomes internalized and when they see

00:39:30.920 that person being victimized it's it's some sort of deep i know this sounds crazy but some sort of

00:39:37.080 deep psychological wound and they react to it they can't see logically it isn't about logic it's about

00:39:44.120 ideology it isn't about community it's actually about a certain form of narcissism and again i say this

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00:41:20.360 started with the best of intentions like everything does um i remember tammy bruce wrote a great book

00:41:27.320 in the 90s about language and and uh i was you know i have a daughter of special needs and you know

00:41:35.480 handy capable in the 90s and like i'm fine i don't want to hurt anybody's feelings i don't want anybody

00:41:40.600 you know you don't you fine if that makes you feel better that's great you know and i can soften

00:41:46.600 my language etc but then you get to like i don't want you to feel bad that you're fat um you know

00:41:53.720 because some people really struggle and you don't feel good when you're fat you don't feel good about

00:41:57.960 yourself in the first place yeah you don't need me to dog pile but we've gone from hey let's be kinder

00:42:05.320 to each other too fat is healthy celebrate your fatness you're like that that that's it's it's

00:42:14.840 almost as if this whole thing is a culture of death it's just a death cult everything in the end lens

00:42:22.920 ends up in i'm going to kill you because i disagree with or i'm going to encourage the things that will

00:42:29.000 make you want to kill yourself or just die because you're going to drop dead of a heart attack because

00:42:33.480 i'm telling you all the things that are really bad for you are good you know that body positivity

00:42:39.000 narrative is actually a big food psyop and this isn't a conspiracy theory the washington post actually

00:42:45.080 wrote about it where they co-opted this message of like hashtag derail the shame no food is junk food and

00:42:52.200 if you say it is you're a racist you're an ableist big is beautiful and they paid dietitians and

00:43:01.640 influencers to put this messaging out into the world they were behind all of this because there

00:43:08.360 was a profit incentive there but then what happens is the person that thinks they're morally superior

00:43:15.480 it's like oh my god i feel so bad for you which is totally normal but that's called empathy not

00:43:21.560 sympathy sympathy is oh you know you poor sad sorry little thing you're not capable of more so i'm just

00:43:31.400 going to tell you it's all okay and then i feel really good about myself i'm a really good person

00:43:36.520 who doesn't judge but the reality is that the earth is not flat up is not down like this this is the

00:43:44.760 science and if you truly care about that person you can give them the facts and help them put that those

00:43:54.360 facts to work in order to improve their life people should work out because they love their body not

00:43:59.400 because they hate it right they should be incentivized from a place of self-love and value but the message

00:44:05.880 was inverted by the big food corporations and then the culture warriors grabbed onto it to virtue signal

00:44:15.080 or get paid that's that's what happened there um there's also a problem though with um

00:44:26.840 i don't know self-responsibility you know i know biggest loser i think weren't some people saying there

00:44:34.280 should have been a halfway house for me because i gained my weight back i should have you should have

00:44:39.000 given me a gym membership and it's like dude what are you talking about you saw the results now go out

00:44:46.040 yourself and do it there's also this lack of any kind of responsibility well we struggle with that

00:44:55.480 across the spectrum yeah right so you see it in race oh well you know i'm completely disadvantaged

00:45:03.480 because white people did this to me or their ancestors did this to me and the system did this to me

00:45:09.320 hear me out i'm i'm genetically overweight and the system has set me up to fail i you list the the minority

00:45:18.680 and i will i will give you the victimology that uh is is ascribed to assigned to it now now with that said

00:45:27.240 many times there's truth to that so again i'll use my area of expertise we all know slavery was real

00:45:34.040 and we could get into redlining and gym we could get into all of that stuff but but at the end of the

00:45:38.440 day right i'll use an example that's right in my my strike zone if i have an individual who was

00:45:44.360 sexually abused and she began eating in order to desexualize now she's not conscious of this it's

00:45:51.720 it's an unconscious defense mechanism of comfort control and desexualization the food is providing

00:46:00.040 her with something so deeply significant that it meant her psychological survival at that time now

00:46:07.720 here's the problem you got a a 40 year old woman now who is on biggest loser at 450 pounds overweight

00:46:15.960 and at some point if she doesn't accept the role she's played here and it's not about blame and

00:46:23.000 it's not about judgment it's like hey you made these choices and you made them for this reason and

00:46:27.080 that's okay but you continue to make them and that is what's begetting this devastating outcome

00:46:34.120 and if you don't stop now if you don't take responsibility tomorrow when you pick up that

00:46:39.320 twinkie and realize the choice is now yours then there's nothing you can do to change it

00:46:45.400 the victim narrative feels great because you don't have to look in the mirror and people don't

00:46:50.760 want to it's like oh i must be lazy if i can't lose the weight or i must be pathetic if i can't climb

00:46:56.760 out of my conditions so everybody did this to me and while there is an element of that

00:47:02.920 you cooperated and the only way out is if you stop cooperating and start responding to the things

00:47:10.520 that may have very legitimately victimized you in a different way to get a different outcome you

00:47:15.640 know i'm a i'm a recovering alcoholic and um you know i started using drugs and everything when i was

00:47:22.440 young my mother died when i was young uh and by the time i was 30 i was completely out of control and

00:47:28.760 knew i i was either gonna die or i was gonna change my life and i drank because i had legitimate

00:47:36.840 things that i hadn't dealt with in my life that had happened to me etc etc yeah but it was still

00:47:43.000 my choice and i i mean everybody in my family's an alcoholic i mean i i don't know if i'm genetically

00:47:50.600 uh predisposed to alcoholism or not it doesn't matter to me it's still my choice and um and you

00:47:59.640 you know that is that that's that's i think that's why we're here on earth we are we are either going

00:48:05.320 to be um an object that are that is acted upon or we are a person that acts which one are you

00:48:17.080 that's the only way out of it without question but in order to help people get there we do have to

00:48:24.840 approach it with no judgment yeah we really because the judgment is what's behind it people

00:48:31.000 don't want to be judged they already feel ashamed of it so instead of feeling ashamed i can feel like

00:48:38.280 a victim and then i'm justified right and i can be indignant about all of it there has to be a middle

00:48:45.800 ground here where we acknowledge hey glenn what happened to you is awful i want to validate your

00:48:51.240 feelings here yeah and it's very real right let's talk about you turn to this because you were in

00:48:57.320 pain that's not you turn to it because you're a low-life drug addict loser blah blah blah lazy this

00:49:02.200 that the other that's that's not going to get anyone anywhere we have to move away from all of that

00:49:06.120 that's what i was i was telling myself that at the time i didn't need you to tell me that

00:49:10.920 i was telling you i'm a loser i can't control myself i i can't stop i mean you you got all that

00:49:17.400 you need somebody just to tell you the truth with empathy and i mean the 12-step program worked for

00:49:23.080 me because it helped me find the truth and then realize that i'm not any of those things

00:49:31.800 and i'm not any of those things that have been in my head that i've lived through or whatever i'm

00:49:36.920 that's not who i am i get to choose who i am

00:49:41.800 we have to show people that though and that's one of the most amazing things about the 12-step program is

00:49:46.760 because it was a road map yeah for this kind of healing we don't really have that with food and

00:49:52.440 there's oa and all of that but it isn't incredibly effective and the other issue is that we are

00:49:58.040 constantly surrounded by food so for example if i go to my son's baseball game there's going to be

00:50:04.280 five food trucks but there isn't a bar you know if i if i go to my office uh to begin my work day

00:50:12.920 there's going to be donuts and bagels but there's probably not a bottle of vodka or six pack on the

00:50:17.320 counter unlikely and i don't need vodka to survive i must have food and the food is being engineered

00:50:25.320 to make me addicted to it and that's the other part is that it is brilliantly engineered to

00:50:33.320 essentially co-opt your physiology it's like all right how do we work with your humanity and hijack

00:50:42.200 it that's that's literally what they're doing and then we've got marketing people and behavioralists

00:50:47.800 to try to engineer a sense of community and belonging i mean why do you think we've got

00:50:55.000 rock stars and athletes they're like pied piper for kids yeah i i mean i don't mean to

00:51:03.160 call these guys out but i i i will i guess because if you look at the kelsey brothers these guys were

00:51:09.720 making jokes about how sugar cereal is dessert for breakfast and within a month they had a deal for

00:51:16.680 their own sugar cereal i mean you got like who do you think looks up to these guys you know one of

00:51:22.520 them is marrying the top pop star in the world he's uh like unbelievably respected athlete kids want to

00:51:29.720 be like him so it's just it's so manipulative on so many levels they surround you with it

00:51:36.680 they engineer it to hijack your biology they trap you into a sense of belonging with behavioralists and

00:51:43.080 market it's bananas so food is just i want i don't want to say significantly harder that's not true it has

00:51:50.360 many layers of complexity that you might not find with alcohol or cigarettes but it's all

00:51:56.200 very hard and and deeply rooted in in my opinion in in pain and trauma and we need to be empathetic to

00:52:03.400 that not sympathetic back to final uh piece with jillian here in just a second but first let me talk

00:52:10.680 to you about pre-born for a baby life or death sometimes hinges on a single moment it's a decision

00:52:16.360 that is made by an expecting mother uh pre-born is there at that moment at her most vulnerable

00:52:22.680 point and the last thing she needs is people screaming at her that she's going to kill her

00:52:26.200 baby she needs compassion she needs somebody to understand where she is it's the toughest decision

00:52:31.800 in her life um and she's most likely surrounded by people who say just kill it it doesn't matter it's

00:52:38.360 not really a baby and you can't do it anyway and you won't have any help or whatever she's alone at

00:52:43.000 that moment when she walks into a pre-born clinic she'll hear the heartbeat and that's something

00:52:48.760 that changes her she realizes this is not an idea or a theory it's a child her child but she still

00:52:55.560 is alone pre-born is there they stay with these women long after the decision is made with counseling

00:53:03.160 and baby supplies and clothes and real community support that says you're not alone because saving

00:53:08.600 a life is only the beginning helping it grow helping mom grow that's the mission every donation to

00:53:15.560 pre-born gives another mother a chance to hear that heartbeat so choose life because somebody

00:53:20.280 cared enough to show her what was true all along this is not the time for silence it's a time for

00:53:25.880 courage time for truth and and real empathy time for life give now dial pound 250 say the keyword

00:53:32.040 baby that's pound 250 keyword baby or go to preborn.com slash glenn that's preborn.com slash glenn

00:53:39.800 so when you were talking about the the kelsey brothers and their cereal i thought of um

00:53:44.200 honus wagner you know who honus wagner was honus wagner was early turn of the century last turn of

00:53:52.760 the century he was a baseball player a decent one but probably somebody that nobody would really

00:53:57.480 remember his baseball card is the most coveted and expensive baseball card in all of history it's i

00:54:06.120 think it's now worth about four million dollars um and the and the reason why is because um as they

00:54:14.440 were making the baseball cards for everybody i think he played for boston uh and they were making

00:54:20.120 everybody's baseball card and they came to him and gave him you know the box of the baseball cards

00:54:25.960 and he took it out and he was really excited then he flipped it over and on the back side it said

00:54:30.600 piedmont tobacco and he said kids have my baseball card i i don't want to tell kids that tobacco is okay

00:54:42.600 and they said honus that's the sponsor and if you don't have one uh you know if you don't take this

00:54:47.880 card you're never going to get another baseball card and he said i don't want another baseball card if

00:54:53.080 it says that and he instructed all of them to be destroyed and there's there's probably 10 that

00:54:59.560 survived but it's his character that made his baseball card the most coveted in the world which

00:55:09.000 i just that is such a great story we don't have those people anymore well here's the problem you do

00:55:17.000 but they turn around and they tell you that they eat dogs or they kill your grandma or you know the

00:55:27.720 i would tell you i was interviewing a doctor the other day who wants to see the covid shots pulled

00:55:35.880 and i was trying to push back just to be responsible because i couldn't get anybody who opposes her to

00:55:41.640 come on and debate with her they all refused to come on and debate with her so i thought oh my god how

00:55:45.800 am i going to do this without looking like a crazy anti-vaxxer and i i researched all of the the

00:55:52.280 the narratives that oppose her position and she she stops and she looks at me and she goes jill do you

00:55:58.040 know how hard this has been for me to take this position i went to stanford i was one of the top

00:56:04.360 physicians at one of the top hospitals in texas uh you know how much this has cost me in every single

00:56:11.880 possible way why do you think that i would take this on if i didn't have good reason to be very

00:56:20.600 concerned and the thing is this woman has made an exceptional sacrifice but everyone just thinks

00:56:26.120 she's nuts despite the fact that she's brilliant went to stanford and was very highly respected and

00:56:31.160 acclaimed prior to telling this truth or or her version of the truth or her concerns

00:56:40.680 it's um we can i don't think um it's let me switch subjects but on on that um

00:56:49.480 uh i have you know fordham university while my daughter was going to fordham held a rally against me

00:56:56.680 um right before they asked me to help them build a library they held they held a rally against me

00:57:04.120 yeah because wow because they okay they said that i was anti-gay and my daughter came to my house and

00:57:11.400 she said dad why do you hate gay people so much and i said what and she said why do you hate gay people

00:57:17.560 so much and i said what are you talking about she said gay marriage i said honey i was for gay marriage in

00:57:23.640 the 90s i was for gay marriage before anybody was talking about gay marriage and the reason why i was

00:57:29.960 there was i who in those days you know who would choose to have that lifestyle you were a pariah you

00:57:38.680 had to you had to hide you had who would do that you don't you don't make that choice um you know at your

00:57:48.040 your own peril i mean maybe some people would but i i just didn't think that was right and when

00:57:53.960 you're an adult i don't care i really what your choice is your choice you do what you want and i say

00:58:01.160 that because i want to go to to transgender i don't have i you know when i when i heard bruce jenner

00:58:08.280 become caitlin my first thought was i i think i might have actually wept that the guy who i idolized

00:58:16.680 on wheaties hated himself that much the whole time he spent his whole life hating who he was hiding and

00:58:28.440 saying this is not me who could possibly hate that guy um but but we have come to this place to where

00:58:40.600 we're honestly where the weimar republic was in 25 in 1925 when they did the first transgender surgery

00:58:47.320 and killed the guy in 29 by sewing a uterus inside of him we we have we've come to this place to where

00:58:56.280 where it's not compassion at all you're not you're not when did it become normal when did it become

00:59:06.920 okay for anyone to say a man who's a man or a man who thinks he's a woman or a woman who's a woman or

00:59:15.240 whatever it doesn't matter is doing a pole dance to my first grader who when did we accept that and say

00:59:22.760 oh that that's and yet that's what we're arguing with we're arguing with people who say how dare you

00:59:28.920 say that's not good you're like what new information did you get please tell me what new information did

00:59:35.560 you get i can't believe you're saying this i was actually putting together a little segment with

00:59:42.040 regard to immigration and i went back and i watched clinton talk about when he was president hillary talk

00:59:49.240 about it when she ran for president barack talk about it when he was president and you feel like

00:59:53.960 joe biden donald trump right wait a second though who you all you guys in the streets right now were

01:00:01.720 alive when they said this you didn't burn anything down and you actually all voted for them so back to

01:00:08.040 the like when did we how it's it's as though the tide went out and took half of the liberals with it

01:00:15.640 yes i don't know why to this moment i don't know where i don't know how i'm confused we were all on

01:00:21.560 the same page here and for some reason it's like now that same exact position makes me throw cinder

01:00:31.880 blocks right at federal law enforcement officers and dox them and go after their families i i don't know

01:00:39.480 the the trans issue is is interesting in that if you want to live your life again like the way you

01:00:49.400 you talk about being gay i don't care what you do right as long as as long as you know you're happy

01:00:54.840 you have your sovereignty over your own world your own body your own life but the problem here

01:01:00.440 which was by the way a very liberal position i'll have you know glenn uh oh i'm very well aware i'm

01:01:06.200 very well aware liberal just saying but the the where we cross the line is that when your personal

01:01:15.080 choices are now impacting hundreds of thousands of biological females in sports yep this is a very

01:01:24.680 different conversation i told my i answered my daughter i said first of all it was always for

01:01:29.640 this and second of all this is not what it's about honey it's not about love it's about

01:01:35.640 control that's what it's really about you watch it will spread to everything and then when you get

01:01:42.600 to the point to where you can't change one thing without saying look i'll change it but i will not

01:01:49.640 change you you you and your church you do whatever i i'm i love a dog and i'm going to be married by that

01:01:56.360 tree that's fine okay whatever but you can't tell me what to do or what to believe if we leave each

01:02:05.000 other alone it's fine but that's not what it's about and look at how that has just i i met with

01:02:13.160 the president of glad while they were throwing gay people off the roof in iran and remember that time

01:02:23.480 and oh yeah i met with the head of glad me i would have been crucified by my audience and i went to them

01:02:31.240 and i said listen we've got to come together on a few principles and we can argue about wedding cakes

01:02:39.240 forever but i know and you know that has to stop why don't we come together and say we don't agree on

01:02:49.480 on almost anything but this we agree on and try to come together they wouldn't do it they wouldn't

01:02:56.440 do it you're like what then what are you really about what what are you about other than power

01:03:03.160 what's crazy is is that did not used to be the party i mean we could look at everything from

01:03:10.840 socialism to immigration to gay marriage i mean that yeah just like those videos of of uh

01:03:19.720 i don't believe in gay marriage joe biden no that's never gonna happen i i mean that that was not

01:03:25.400 the party and again what what it has been replaced with is dogma ideology tribalism there's a moral

01:03:36.520 inversion there that is impossible to penetrate and this is no longer the party of tolerance or being

01:03:47.320 liberal with a live and let live mentality they're the exact opposite they're everything that a traditional

01:03:53.800 liberal fought against and what's crazy is that the right i i hope you and your audience will forgive

01:04:03.560 me this is my my personal observation yeah the right is the one with the bigger tent the right is the one

01:04:11.400 that is becoming more tolerant it is right is the party that's starting to look a heck of a lot more

01:04:17.880 diverse to me these days and the right is where i identify with the most and people who don't believe

01:04:25.720 in gay marriage i understand that i'm not trying to change your mind i'm not trying to get married in

01:04:30.840 your church i appreciate you know a lot of times it has to do with your religion and i respect that as

01:04:35.720 well the simple conversation i have had with these individuals is the problem is that a federally

01:04:42.120 recognized marriage comes with a thousand plus rights and it's how i protect my kids and so on

01:04:47.480 and so forth surely you can get behind that and i can also understand that they feel you know this

01:04:53.560 problem with gay marriage is a slippery slope and now we're here and i told you so right okay but

01:04:58.840 surely we can agree on a world that is you know on the spectrum of sex changes for children

01:05:05.720 and games in the closet and can't get married right like how do we meet here work with me to get here

01:05:11.480 just like what you're talking about and the right is willing to do that the left is not

01:05:17.160 so how do we it's their downfall how no you won't there's no healing there's no fixing there's no coming

01:05:23.480 back that means we write off 40 of the country 30 of the country no and and megan kelly said this to

01:05:33.080 me when i asked her the same question and she's like forget it you're not going to get very far

01:05:38.680 this was two years ago and she was right now i'm alt-right i'm maga i'm anti-vax i probably eat dogs

01:05:46.120 because this is what they do the minute you try to bridge those ideologies or to do some good it's

01:05:53.000 like the spin machine gets going and she hates fat people and she hates black people and she this she

01:05:57.720 this she this and then the the minute you try the other half of the country just believes it

01:06:03.560 i think personally what we need to do is not not demonize those people i i understand why they're

01:06:09.880 out in the street i think they're misinformed but i i think they're they genuinely feel they genuinely

01:06:15.720 believe yes that hitler has embodied trump and they need to do something about it i don't think they

01:06:22.120 are evil i i think they are misled used and misled right so i think it's not about demonizing them

01:06:31.320 it is about continuing to live the truth and at one point by the way this ideology will come for

01:06:38.360 them because it comes with all everybody on the left it came for me it came for um

01:06:45.880 tulsi it came for elon it came for kennedy it comes for everybody yeah and then all of a sudden

01:06:50.680 they're going to open their eyes they're going to see that glenn beck talks about supporting gay

01:06:54.040 marriage in the 90s and they're going to realize wait a second if i was wrong about this what else

01:07:00.680 was i wrong about and i think that's the way is not to demonize those people to leave the door open

01:07:06.440 for those people to continue to live our truth and know that if we just let the radicals keep talking

01:07:13.080 and keep doing what they're doing their riots are going to stop one of those moms from getting her

01:07:17.400 kid to school or they're going to shut down one of their friends businesses something is going to

01:07:23.240 happen that impacts their life with this kind of crazy their eyes are going to open and this is when

01:07:28.840 they will find the truth on their own like i did so i would agree with you but i have one caveat

01:07:36.520 concern that i'd like you to address okay um

01:07:40.680 um it's becoming a culture of death when you can celebrate charlie kirk when you can say

01:07:50.040 kill him because i disagree and and it is happening i mean julian i was on stage uh filling

01:07:57.640 in for charlie right after he died and i had to go up to a university campus and i'm sitting there and

01:08:04.520 there's 3 000 kids and the majority of them are all cool they might disagree here and there on different

01:08:12.040 things but there was a subset in there that was that was conservative and it maybe was five percent

01:08:22.120 that was so unbelievably dangerous in their thinking um i walked off stage and i walked right to my

01:08:29.640 security chief and i said forget the left i'm in these crowds all the time and that's the kind of

01:08:36.360 person that will kill me we have to be careful it is it's it's just beginning in the right but it is

01:08:45.080 everywhere in the left and it's how do you i mean we don't we're going to run out of time before people

01:08:52.520 just start to say kill them i i don't disagree with you what i do think has to happen is a

01:09:02.120 isolation and a marginalizing of those voices and i'm not seeing that yeah virginia look at what's

01:09:10.520 happening in virginia yep i'm not seeing that and that's what needs to happen on both sides yes

01:09:21.160 period and i i i'm not actually quite sure outside of late honestly labeling antifa and the behavior

01:09:30.040 that that goes along with that description since there's no like you don't get a card when you sign

01:09:36.280 up yeah but you you engage in those behaviors that are associated with that kind of domestic terrorism

01:09:42.520 you start giving these guys serious consequences for these actions which i know trump is trying to do

01:09:48.600 then i think you diminish it you don't elevate it and there's a there's a gentleman on the right

01:09:55.800 who in my opinion and i don't want to say his name for all all the reasons we're discussing

01:10:00.360 who i think actually is all the things that they accuse charlie of being and i've taken my time and

01:10:06.760 i've watched them because when my my young son actually uh started watching charlie kirk and i had

01:10:14.360 heard all the rumors oh he's a racist he's a bigot he's this he's that and i thought oh geez i better

01:10:18.440 take a look at this what is this kid watching and i i was like honey you know this is years ago now

01:10:23.240 honey um what are you watching you watching politics on youtube with your fishing and your baseball

01:10:29.640 videos and this is where i first learned about charlie and i thought oh this guy's not none of these

01:10:33.640 things this is crazy so i similarly looked into this other individual and he is in fact all of those

01:10:39.320 things and i am seeing him now be platformed on major shows and i'm i'm not for de-platforming

01:10:48.120 but let him have his own show on his channel when when you put him on big platforms you're basically

01:10:56.360 saying it's okay and that does worry me a little bit and again like i hate to do that i'm not for

01:11:02.840 cancel culture i wouldn't have him kicked off of youtube or his own platform ever but i also think

01:11:10.360 we need to there should be a healthy amount of shame in our culture and going after true racists

01:11:16.680 and true anti-semites because they exist that needs to be condemned and when they act on it it needs to be

01:11:23.640 severely punished and those voices need to be isolated and they need to be marginalized and common

01:11:29.160 sense needs to be rewarded and this is something i'm trying and i don't know how it's going to work

01:11:34.040 out for me but when someone like van jones who i have a real hard time with comes out and says

01:11:42.520 charlie did reach out to me and he said let's agree disagreeably i reposted that because it's like

01:11:48.840 thank you for saying no i think those have to they have to be they i have the same feeling about

01:11:54.840 van jones as well but um but i i did the same thing we have to say when somebody does something

01:12:02.120 right even if we disagree with everything else we just have to recognize good for them good for them

01:12:08.680 thank you for saying that yeah otherwise what's their incentive to do so like do you know many clips

01:12:13.720 of john fetterman i've watched because he's like i'm not shutting down the government people need to eat

01:12:18.440 and they need the they need a campaign mortgage their mortgage i thought who john fetterman i did

01:12:24.200 not have this guy being a hero of the left on on my bingo card no but i'm like i i want to elevate

01:12:32.920 that i respect that i appreciate that thank you for john fetterman john fetterman i think is one of

01:12:39.160 the biggest surprises of my of my life watching politics i'm like this guy was going to be a nightmare

01:12:45.720 and all of a sudden i'm like wait a minute yeah he's still a nightmare in ways but he's also

01:12:51.080 logical in others the guy with quote brain damage has more brain power than everybody else there

01:12:58.360 it's crazy it's crazy easy i totally agree we live in such a weird world just live in such weird times

01:13:06.040 so it has really been wonderful to get to know you and and talk to you as i said at the beginning my

01:13:12.600 wife and i have been fans of yours for a very long time and uh you're you're just you're a good soul

01:13:19.960 you're a really good soul and a positive impact in our society and those um those don't happen all the

01:13:27.080 time and thank you for that well it's absolutely mutual and i i can't tell you how much i appreciate

01:13:33.400 you having me on and allowing me to to speak with you and your audience i'm i'm exceptionally grateful

01:13:40.120 and it just to make one more point it is this kind of reach out and and bridging of ideologies and and

01:13:49.400 finding common ground that is happening on the right not the left i know and i couldn't be more grateful

01:13:56.680 to you for doing it i tell you i've been i've been trying to reach out with people this is five years

01:14:01.880 ago six years ago maybe eight years i don't even know how long but tried to reach out to people who

01:14:07.720 maybe could be reasonable and agree on certain things and they would never come on my show um but

01:14:15.000 now it's common now it's starting to happen because they've i think they've seen wait i might not be with

01:14:25.240 you on everything but i'm definitely not that and i i i would rather be with people where i can have a

01:14:33.000 reasonable disagreement with than than in this place to where i mean you know it you got you were

01:14:40.280 slaughtered slaughtered how how lonely it must be when everybody who you thought you know you trusted and

01:14:49.720 you're friends with and everything else all of a sudden just go not talking to you anymore oh god

01:14:55.480 that's exactly it yep you're like i don't think this person follows me anymore i don't see their name

01:15:01.480 one of the like on instagram come to think of it they never called me back about that podcast interview

01:15:07.720 after they canceled wait a second it's wild but it's great in that it reveals yeah who

01:15:15.560 the good people are that aren't afraid what people think and have the best intentions so i'm grateful

01:15:23.720 for that god bless you thank you so much thank you back at you just a reminder i'd love you to rate

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The Glenn Beck Program - October 25, 2025

Ep 271 ｜ Jillian Michaels Exposes the REAL Biggest Losers ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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