The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 272 ｜ He Hunted SATANIST Mexican Cartels and SURVIVED ｜ Dave Franke

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00:00:49.180 you may never have heard of the satanic underbelly of the drug cartels but my

00:00:56.880 next guest has uh in fact he's seen it firsthand can the trump administration get them out out of

00:01:05.640 the u.s before we see the rise in the u.s this brand of narco satanism i want to welcome a man who

00:01:13.760 has faced off against the cartel in one of the most violent regions in mexico and live to talk about it

00:01:18.900 dave frank dave welcome how are you i'm very well glenn thank you so much for having me on your show

00:01:38.900 and i just got to tell you that i'm a longtime fan 20 plus years thank you thank you um i have to tell

00:01:45.180 you we found you on some podcast uh recently and your story is the most unbelievable story i think

00:01:53.560 i've ever heard um it is it's horrifying and there are people on my staff that are like he's got to

00:02:00.860 be cia he's got to be cia and i didn't get that i didn't get that impression how did you get

00:02:08.240 to where you were seeing all the things you're about to tell us about um i had a turbulent childhood

00:02:18.260 glenn and uh my mother used to smoke pot with charles manson in the san fernando valley course what

00:02:25.080 yeah okay um it's really that wild i was uh giving away the day i was born and my mother my parents

00:02:34.420 were very good parents don't get me wrong but i was a product of the vietnam war my mother was just

00:02:39.800 coming out of the 60s she just missed the tate la bianca murders by about six months because my

00:02:44.860 grandmother who was very much 1950s uh june cleaver yeah found out that my mother was doing drugs with

00:02:53.240 charles manson up in san jesusana pass portion of san san fernando valley and so i had kind of a

00:03:00.420 turbulent upbringing and as a result ran into some troubles predictably in my childhood and was

00:03:07.380 kicked out at 16 and basically uh left to fend for myself yeah and you and so you became a a hard

00:03:17.220 drug addict right and found yourself i i have something from what 1996 um you were tried for

00:03:26.860 murder i believe 1991 i was uh tried for attempted attempted murder and i didn't do it um i was there

00:03:37.200 i regret very much that day in fact ever since and i've been trying to make a living amends by being

00:03:42.700 a better person but i was present when someone was uh viciously attacked they had their throat slit

00:03:48.160 and it was uh robbing a drug dealer correct so lament you regrettably you sober up um you 28 years

00:03:59.820 yeah 28 years so you you sober up and then how did you get back to mexico where you were working with

00:04:09.540 the police there to to infiltrate and break up drug lords i mean the worst of the worst i used to manage

00:04:16.800 an aerospace factory glenn my my father my biological father i have two fathers one was marines and the

00:04:24.300 other was army and he my biological father long story short owned a factory where we were producing 90

00:04:31.840 percent of the airport runway lights in the world for hp and i learned a lot about engineering and

00:04:39.880 everything from bill of materials to giving the customer their products for boeing and other

00:04:46.440 place shopping i shouldn't be mentioning all of their company names but that's how i learned how to

00:04:52.460 machine and i wound up in mexico opening up a 60 million dollar factory for a third tier supplier to

00:04:58.320 boeing and airbus and i decided i wanted to stay in mexico and hunt drug cartels that's the long

00:05:05.980 you re you do realize how crazy just this part of the story sounds right my mom my mom is smoking

00:05:16.240 tope with with uh with charles manson and i i'm now running a 60 million dollar aerospace i mean

00:05:23.540 your life is unbelievable and we've gone through the records and what we can find everything you say

00:05:31.400 seems to check out i mean it's crazy your life well to be completely clear i was not managing the

00:05:38.700 entire factory i was managing the machining and engineering as well okay still also fabrications

00:05:45.340 and composites but yes i was in charge of both of those okay but you do you realize how crazy your

00:05:51.280 life's been or is it just your life well it's just my life i mean i've gone down to enlist in this

00:05:58.260 country glenn seven different times and i i've seen a lot of the comments that my videos are

00:06:02.880 starting to generate they think i'm a spook an mk ultra baby i am not full disclosure i did talk to

00:06:10.400 the cia at one point in time when i was about 28 more or less and had a half hour conversation with

00:06:18.340 them in langley virginia about trying to join them because i very much would have liked to have done that

00:06:23.120 been in the military in this country and served i believe in that strongly i've lived in different

00:06:29.220 places such as provo utah run around the missionary training center every day and i have a very

00:06:34.440 awesome idea of what the united states of america is and what freedom means and i definitely support

00:06:41.800 that i as i stated i've been a fan of yours for 20 some odd years or longer and i very much believe

00:06:49.040 in this vision of the united states so you're you're down in you're down in mexico and correct you

00:06:57.620 decide and i assume it's your upbringing and your your you know 1991 experience that makes you say

00:07:06.020 i want to go get drug lords right 100 absolutely i mean i had wound up in russia previously i don't

00:07:14.080 want to get too far off track but i had wound up in russia previously i saw the daniel you're asking

00:07:20.820 me how this happened i saw the daniel pearl beheading video and that uh really affected me

00:07:26.980 and when i saw the daniel pearl beheading video i thought to myself there is americans of every color

00:07:34.420 every creed and when they're attacking us i'm not going to wait for the american government to give

00:07:41.140 me permission to go do the right thing i'm going to find a way so i had already had that mentality

00:07:45.940 and i had a daughter and my ex-wife left my daughter in russia with my ex-mother-in-law

00:07:52.860 and when that happened it's just the way all the things coalesced or happened at the same time where

00:07:58.520 i was working at this factory at the time i was manufacturing supervisor in the united states for

00:08:06.080 a component of this factory one of the sites it was an international company

00:08:10.540 and the first team had gone down and failed and because my father had taught me how to machine

00:08:17.780 everything engineering everything all the programs and all of it manufacturing process engineering is

00:08:24.280 basically what what i do they'd ask me to go down to mexico to start this factory up and i disagreed

00:08:32.460 i did not want to go because i had 180 to 200 people that were working for me in the united states

00:08:38.420 three shifts of about 65 people each and i owed them to them to save their jobs and when

00:08:45.280 barack was in office or getting coming to be in office they came up with a low-cost

00:08:51.540 company plan to send all the workers jobs south of the border and because i did not agree to go

00:08:59.460 along with it it kind of drove a wedge between myself i was middle management at the time and

00:09:03.980 executive management my ex had left my daughter in russia and i had written a pay head at procureria

00:09:11.240 general de la república which is the mexican department of justice asking them for a job because

00:09:16.860 i figured i'm going to go hunt drug cartels and they'd email me back about six months later

00:09:22.800 telling me mr frank lamento que decir que en este momento no puedes trabajar para nosotros which

00:09:29.440 means regrettably in this moment you cannot work for us so i took that to be a huge positive

00:09:34.820 because they're not saying no they're saying not right not right now so when the first team went to

00:09:40.940 mexico to go set up that factory and they failed when they came back to me six months later all of this

00:09:46.860 stuff had been going on and i agreed to go down there and use that to bankroll or finance my

00:09:53.020 trying to become involved in the drug mexican drug war because i was just going to go take care of it

00:10:00.860 and then you were trying to and you did end up working for an elite uh police special force kind of

00:10:08.980 like our swat teams up here i imagine definitely g-a-t-p-e okay okay correct yes sir and how did

00:10:21.120 you get into that because somehow or another you met a general down there right and i went around

00:10:26.560 knocking on doors every day as soon as we were living in avenida hildago at the argento inn in

00:10:34.480 downtown zacatecas mexico which is one of the bloodiest places there when i first got there

00:10:40.300 i didn't realize i was a complete thirst i was completely naive to just how much goes on

00:10:46.920 in mexico as we are because we're not from there and when i got there i would they would pick us up

00:10:55.400 at seven o'clock in the morning and at five o'clock at night when we'd get off i was immediately out

00:10:59.880 knocking on the department of justice door policia federal's door all these doors and finally i got

00:11:07.000 an audience with uh general cases pinto ortiz how did you how did you know who to trust because some

00:11:14.880 of the government is in you don't you don't you don't know who to trust i mean you have to take

00:11:22.040 into consideration my perspective at the time my ex-wife had left my daughter in russia and came back

00:11:26.580 the united states stating that she wanted a prolonged honeymoon but really i don't want to get

00:11:32.500 yeah yeah i have a lot of respect for my ex-wife and the hardships of her life and i'm not going to

00:11:39.120 critique anything that she's done i don't agree with it but that's my perspective at the time i was in

00:11:45.100 mexico and i'm going to stay in mexico so you don't know who to trust and my daughter's a very big deal to

00:11:52.320 me so because my daughter was removed from my life i was completely okay with confronting an enemy and

00:11:57.240 possibly perishing doing that because they'd given me drugs as a child and i'm an adult man now and i'm

00:12:03.600 going to confront this evil period did you have any idea at the time what you were getting into

00:12:08.580 no not not immediately i mean you have a general broad sense of an idea the first time that it really

00:12:15.280 hit home was managing this factory the machining and engineering components of it all of our

00:12:21.560 the machining industry did not exist in zaka take is prior to our arrival so we had to take

00:12:27.680 chili farmers and train them how to make flight critical parts for boeing and airbus

00:12:32.860 which we did but one day we're at the factory and all of a sudden at 12 o'clock they tell us we have

00:12:39.820 to go back to town because the cartel is shutting everything down literally and this is the capital city

00:12:45.040 of the state wow and we get back to the hotel and i'm looking outside at all of these businesses around

00:12:52.900 shuttering their doors and just the thought of someone shutting down boston or i want to say a

00:13:02.600 similar sized city it would be similar to the entire area of provo and oram being shut in utah being

00:13:10.200 shut down at noon because the cartel was upset that they weren't getting their money or their

00:13:17.340 remittances from the bars at night so they shut everything down with the threat of violence

00:13:21.620 and closed off the highways with burning buses in fact it's going on right now still and nothing

00:13:28.280 happens there are gunfights that go on it depends um my experience there was one of two things well

00:13:38.300 one of three things a you don't even know about it and it's just cartel against cartel and they're

00:13:42.600 killing each other out in the middle of the desert nobody knows or b you are getting in a firefight with

00:13:49.260 them which has also happened on several occasions or c there'll be two cartels fighting each other

00:13:55.160 right downtown i've got video of myself my wife and myself being right next to a gunfight for two hours

00:14:01.840 and 45 minutes jeez the club cactus right on avenida hildago right next to where we lived in our first

00:14:07.980 apartment together so and nobody came in it was uh terrifying glenn because i thought for sure i

00:14:14.620 didn't have any weapons with me in my apartment at the time i was and my wife and i were there and it

00:14:20.880 started off with seven gunshots six or seven gunshots from a nine millimeter about five minutes laps and then

00:14:27.580 the people had come back and this was a bar that cartels frequented and they came back five minutes

00:14:35.780 later with ak-47s and it didn't stop for two hours and 45 minutes and it was almost three hours of the

00:14:43.640 most terrifying time i've ever had in my entire life so after a while you get acclimated what's going on

00:14:51.520 and nobody came nobody came there was no one to rescue us if they'd come up we lived on the second

00:14:56.260 floor apartment i've got pictures there if they'd come up my uniforms were there all my papers were

00:15:01.680 i've got my papers a few week feet from me and i had to think about how i was going to try to

00:15:09.600 end my wife's existence so she wouldn't be tortured and raped and all these other things

00:15:15.360 because they would definitely know that i was pleased so this is kind of like what goes on in mexico

00:15:20.440 on a daily basis and it's tragic because the mexicans are very very good hard-working honest

00:15:29.580 noble people by and large that was very much been my experience there and then there's this

00:15:35.280 undercurrent and it's everywhere it's a ubiquitous you don't even know it when you get to the country

00:15:40.620 of an evil that exists provoked largely by economic factors or drivers where people don't have any other

00:15:49.580 opportunity and the level of wealth that we have here in the united states just isn't in existence

00:15:54.840 in the and the republic of mexico so people enter this lifestyle and what is the is the average person

00:16:04.500 wanted to go away they're just they're just paralyzed with i can't do anything about it so i'm just going

00:16:10.240 to live my life stay out of the way they definitely they definitely wanted to want it to go away

00:16:15.700 most of the republic of mexico or catholic honest church going people are hard-working farmers

00:16:21.540 very much like the core type of people that make up the bulk of the united states as soon as you step

00:16:28.120 outside of the cities i mean they're very wholesome down-to-earth people they definitely don't want that to

00:16:33.280 go away but at the same time you might go two or three or four years looking for a job in mexico

00:16:39.500 because the opportunities just that are yeah that exist here just aren't existent there they're not

00:16:45.120 present so and you have people that are forced to participate in that and when you so you joined the

00:16:55.300 police how did he know you were on the right side how did the i mean you didn't know who to trust how

00:17:00.580 did he know to trust you i didn't find this out until years later probably until about three years into

00:17:07.060 but they had investigated me the entire time as soon as i knocked on their door it wasn't something

00:17:11.760 that happened immediately they would track my movements from my home to to it's about a 20-minute

00:17:18.720 drive out to the airport where the factory is located for my home they would watch me they did

00:17:24.580 background checks on me here in the united states they which i don't understand that either because this

00:17:31.500 is obviously much after that article in the la times came out that you mentioned to begin with

00:17:37.780 but long story short they let me in and initially they let me in as an instructor uh for martial arts

00:17:46.500 i've got a background of dog brothers martial arts wrestling and judo and a lot of people don't want

00:17:53.400 to believe it i wasn't having to fight like three top tier people but i'd mentioned it on the camp

00:17:57.780 my interview was very much going down and beating up three recruits people can take issue with that

00:18:05.080 but that's absolutely what happened i have witnesses that were there i don't need to corroborate it anymore

00:18:09.340 but that's how i got in there and i was offered a job my official rank is suboficial operativa which

00:18:15.160 is basically a sergeant a tactical sergeant for tactical operations against the cartel and i've got

00:18:22.100 my cart that they portacion which is my cart or a copy of it you have to turn it in when you leave

00:18:28.700 but it has the matricula or the serial numbers of the weapons that you carried what you're allowed

00:18:34.180 to carry carry where you're allowed to carry it i've got paycheck stubs that can be cross-referenced with

00:18:39.760 uh so all of this um i'm not i got in there and i got a job as an instructor teaching recruits

00:18:49.060 martial arts to begin with that's how i started and my general liked me and how did when what was

00:18:54.280 the first time you went out what was the first major thing you were involved in the first major

00:18:59.940 thing that i was involved in was a gunfight in jerez where we went to primarily we operated in

00:19:06.280 zacatecas but one night we're going out on patrol and we get called over we work with the army

00:19:12.160 constantly we get called over to a gunfight in jerez mexico jerez zacatecas mexico and we get there

00:19:21.040 and then i get yelled at by this mexican colonel for advancing in the middle of the street not using

00:19:26.040 cover because i was brand new i didn't understand you do your training and stuff like that we have

00:19:31.100 got pay training at base but until you're immersed in it you really don't know it's kind of like

00:19:36.720 learning i got yelled at for advancing without cover or concealment right in the middle of the

00:19:42.700 street like just someone that's completely naive and i was and we get there and there's four beheaded

00:19:48.860 people and three of the bodies are males and one of them's female and that's when it really hit home

00:19:54.720 the brutality of just what the mexican drug war is we see it all the time on news in the united states

00:20:03.440 and that misses a lot of things it misses the beautiful aspects of mexico because there's a lot

00:20:10.560 but it also misses the up front up close and personal level of brutality that is there so i had

00:20:18.560 i had when i was at cnn then later at fox uh i had people who lived on the american side of the border

00:20:26.140 and they were sending me images of heads on fence posts all the way yeah you know um

00:20:33.360 uh heads used as bowling balls um just horrific horrific things cnn nor fox would allow me to air

00:20:43.640 them um and every time i would reach out to somebody who was going to be a source the second time i reached

00:20:50.720 out they were just they were nowhere to be found i mean they were just they were like i know i've done

00:20:55.620 my part there's no more i have to say um the the amount of fear on the border is uh remarkable and

00:21:03.840 you never see anybody really talk about that uh on on the on the news ever there's my wife my wife and

00:21:12.120 i discussed it before i came on to your onto your pod onto your podcast or your show and she is was a

00:21:18.980 reporter a national level reporter for televisa and both her and i have worked in the security

00:21:24.500 industry in mexico and it's not and it's not an overstatement to say that we've forgotten how many

00:21:30.220 heads we've seen which is atrocious because if you even see one it's already too much and in the course

00:21:38.040 of that working in that you'll see so many that you can't even count them all and i mean if i really

00:21:44.980 sat down and tried hard maybe i could but it's in dozens dozens of them that you'll see and the

00:21:54.600 reporters that report on this too it's a terrifying experience for them because they get threatened or

00:22:01.800 even i don't want to say unalived i don't like that word because yeah butchered there exists well

00:22:07.880 yeah they'll be butchered or killed in their homes or whatever for even speaking out on it

00:22:13.260 i saw a comment the other day on one of the youtube videos that asked how is this guy still alive

00:22:17.900 and i have a strong faith in jesus but i also have a strong faith that no one's going to send me

00:22:25.280 anywhere one minute before my maker wants me there anyway so it's not tempting fate but it also is

00:22:32.280 you do your best to show up and do what you're going to do but the drug war in mexico is definitely

00:22:37.480 brutal brutal brutal in terms of combat fatalities between state or government forces and cartel

00:22:44.380 forces and then also entry cartel violence so it's just it's it's omnipresent it's everywhere is this a

00:22:53.940 is this a state run by uh the drug lords and the drug lords allow some of the politicians to run

00:23:04.020 things or is it run by the politicians and they allowed some of the drug lords to get away with

00:23:10.600 what they get who's who's the kingpin in mexico i think the latter is true i i really do and the

00:23:18.000 reason why i mean they're both powerful groups or organizations and i'm by organizations i'm talking

00:23:26.020 about the cartels collectively as a whole they're both powerful entities because they have a lot of money

00:23:32.300 and firepower behind them the government has more firepower obviously they've got the semr and the

00:23:40.020 sedana and every state and federal police force which is basically trustworthy because they don't

00:23:47.060 work and operate exactly where they live so there's a layer there are layers that separate them from the

00:23:52.620 community and the local cartels but to say that the cartels don't have control or an influence in

00:24:01.680 who is being allowed to govern yeah would also be they definitely they'll want to lie politicians all

00:24:09.260 the time in fact i don't think there's another country in the entire world that has more political

00:24:13.960 candidates assassinated than mexico and that also goes for journalists too i don't think there's

00:24:19.680 another country in the world that has more journalists that are executed so to say that

00:24:24.260 the cartel does not have a voice is is lacking in my opinion more with dave in just a second right now

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00:25:26.020 when you get into it i mean most people will think of the drug cartels

00:25:32.260 in a way that they've seen portrayed in movies etc etc um or even you know the i guess the old

00:25:40.480 timers will think about the mafia but this is not the mafia this is not the drug cartels that you can

00:25:47.540 even imagine how what is the percentage of them are that are part of this um this religious cult

00:25:56.480 of the patron saint of death as far as that goes like one of the things that we would be tasked

00:26:03.480 with doing glenn is we would have to routinely go into the prisons and this is how you get a good

00:26:08.440 measure of it we would routinely go into the prisons to remove cell phones firearms knives

00:26:14.820 all of this from the prison so we'd go through and we would inspect the prisons

00:26:20.120 and in there they were allowed to make clothing belts tables and you would see santamuerte everywhere

00:26:28.260 and they have different cartels in different blocks to avoid them from to prevent them from

00:26:32.400 killing each other because they're very violent but you'd go into each one of these blocks and

00:26:36.320 regardless at the time it was primarily the zeta cartel and the gulf cartel that were in there

00:26:40.860 there's also cartel de cinaloa but we'd go in there and we'd inspect all their blocks for

00:26:48.160 contraband and come out with santamuerte carvings on clothing drawings on shirts on paper

00:26:55.520 etched into wood tables just everywhere so to say that that's not something that's completely

00:27:02.900 prevalent against them is just completely untrue they believe in it the same way that most people

00:27:09.700 believe in and a god of their choice so explain for for people who don't know what santa muerta is

00:27:17.500 explain what is it to the best of my understanding because i'm not a practitioner and i want to make

00:27:25.180 that clear but i do know what i see at work and so you'll see altars on the side of the road it's

00:27:32.540 basically a skeleton that's dressed in a in a robe this kind of mocking like i don't know if it's directly

00:27:39.560 mocking the virgin mary but it is their rendition of the patron saint of death they have different

00:27:47.700 colors of it and to be clear not catholics aren't the ones practicing this or if they are it's not

00:27:54.460 endorsed by the catholic church this is a perversion of that and it's it's the correct it's the opposite of

00:28:03.660 god this is evil it's a hundred percent evil this is uh it's a saint that gives them permission to do

00:28:12.140 whatever they want torture whoever they want kill whoever they want and you know to be honest even

00:28:18.020 talking about this someday there could be real consequences for myself and my wife

00:28:22.360 um but i'm going to say what i have to say being a free person it's something that you'll see in the

00:28:30.980 stores it's so i used the word earlier ubiquitous it's everywhere you go to every state and every

00:28:38.140 state has a store that's selling candles and statues of santa muerte in different colors

00:28:42.900 for blessings for health blessings for money blessings for love or whatever and i saw a comment

00:28:49.000 on one of the videos to where someone got it had gotten upset with me because i was not presenting

00:28:55.340 their patron saint of death in a positive light there's nothing positive about worshiping

00:29:00.980 death is a way to where you see it carried out in the streets in mexico in every state every single day

00:29:11.480 to where it's brutal the bodies that i've seen the bullet wounds i've seen um and not just myself but

00:29:21.260 everybody in mexico including those that do not work for the government or the cartels

00:29:25.640 they see it too carried out in their streets every single day this is um talk a little bit about the

00:29:34.780 rituals that because when you have witnessed or somehow or another seen them killing people

00:29:44.180 and then bringing them back to life to kill them again no this is something there was a case of a guy

00:29:51.780 that had a defibrillator and obviously i wasn't there while they were doing this but yeah they had

00:29:56.880 a defibrillator and they were torturing this person and he would go out and then they were supposedly

00:30:03.700 trying to bring this person back to life so they could kill them again it's just next there's evil that

00:30:12.140 exists in every country but mexico is just over the top and the reason why you were talking about the

00:30:17.720 mafia earlier the cartels could maybe be compared to 1930s or 1920s mafia when they were fighting

00:30:27.160 against prohibition and what do i mean by that i mean from an organizational standpoint a large affront

00:30:34.800 a direct challenge to government power that the mafia did do in this country except in mexico it's gone

00:30:41.380 on for so long at this point that it's just the course du jour it's just the way things are done

00:30:48.080 so when a government tells people that they can't do something and this is going to the defibrillator

00:30:55.240 thing in a little bit you get an atmosphere to where everyone's trying to one-up each other because

00:31:01.440 they want to impress or send a message not just to the government and the normal people but to their

00:31:06.600 enemies that this is the way that we do things so you always get someone trying to invent something

00:31:12.040 it started with the face mask there's a flaying video of someone having his face and his head build

00:31:17.380 off a lot alive another alive alive alive he was drugged but yes he was alive and this happened where

00:31:26.160 i was working this is just how can i put it no because i struggle to try to bring this to americans in a

00:31:34.500 way that they can comprehend and i don't want this to be like morbid tourism i want everyone to be

00:31:40.440 able to live in peace but the dave that went to mexico naive managing an aerospace factory i was making

00:31:48.340 a lot of money going to make 600 bucks a year and the dave that left mexico or 600 a month rather

00:31:55.080 the dave that left mexico aren't the same person the only reason that is is because it's been stewed in this

00:32:00.620 for so long even after i left service and was going to law school and everything trying to button that

00:32:08.480 up it's just something that stays with you it's kind of like a stain on a tupperware dish it's not

00:32:15.000 anything that's ever going to really come off and it's not just me but it's everyone in the mexican

00:32:20.860 society that has to deal with this as well as the politicians that are in policy making positions and

00:32:26.540 politicians that are in policy making positions that are aligned with the cartel and working with

00:32:31.440 them directly because that happens too you know when people come down to mexico they might buy one

00:32:36.440 of those candles because it's they see it and they're like oh it's you know a skeleton in a cloak and they

00:32:43.120 don't realize i had one you had one glenn i had a i had a rosary with santa muerta on it just kind of

00:32:48.940 like uh as a trinket and then i got rid of it because the idolatry commandment the bible but i mean i had

00:32:55.200 one for a short while so it's something that's popular yes people that don't even practice it are

00:33:00.100 buying trinkets like that but it is everywhere so um you get in and how do these missions work you

00:33:11.260 you would come in like a normal swat team and you would find these things or what what would happen

00:33:18.640 is there are different mix law enforcement in mexico setup first of all you have a lot of people that

00:33:24.220 are corrupt even people that are in uniforms or people that are working for intelligence

00:33:28.120 or the ministry that are corrupt and do work directly with the cartels whichever one it happens

00:33:35.360 to be there's control of that area or there are instances where certain members of the government

00:33:44.060 forces are working for different cartels even underneath the same organization they're competing

00:33:48.580 with each other that's happened too but what so as a result law enforcement mexico set up to where

00:33:55.440 you basically have investigative police and then preventative police and the preventative police are

00:34:01.340 your swat type people the ones that are going to go out and react to any type of violence but they're

00:34:07.500 also the ones as far as got paid that was my group or my unit once we get intelligence typically what

00:34:15.040 all happens there will be security meetings at the military bases or other places where the army

00:34:21.220 the marines federal preventative police federal or state preventative police and plus the ministry

00:34:29.780 police at a federal and state level will all get together and they'll come up with whatever it is

00:34:35.940 that they're going to do then we'll go out and commit or conduct missions based on that

00:34:41.260 together as a group to try to cut down on on corruption or the cartel being informed in any

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00:35:49.160 you know uh i think it was donald trump that said uh this is the isis of you know mexico

00:35:59.980 and you know when you look at isis the the ability to enslave people to just murder them brutally

00:36:11.440 horribly without any feeling um it it seems like this is pretty accurate to say that these cartels

00:36:19.900 are the isis of of mexico i would say that that's true i do have one thing that i wanted to bring up

00:36:27.060 and i don't know maybe you could i don't know what your thoughts are on it but when i was working

00:36:31.440 it was very much the zetas or disciplined military personnel and when you get people for interrogation

00:36:39.380 there are things that you'll learn that come out just differences in personnel from different cartels

00:36:45.380 that you're working with in the area and the zetas were a very disciplined hardcore cartel

00:36:52.440 maybe even more so than others is kind of what i'm trying to say but what is curious to me is the

00:37:00.540 way that the cartel de jalisco the nueva canada has been able to flourish i don't know if they have

00:37:08.080 government either from the united states or from mexico that are helping them become as powerful as

00:37:14.760 they are and the reason why i'm saying that is because you have all these other powerful cartels that

00:37:19.300 are immersed in a drug war that they carry out on a day-to-day basis so they're seasoned they're

00:37:23.800 hardened they have resources they have arms they're good at their business and then all of a sudden you

00:37:30.840 have one cartel that's an upstart that was an upstart in 2008 or 2009 very new be able to come through

00:37:37.480 and just clean house the way that they haven't been able to flourish i wonder what allows that

00:37:41.760 it's not something that i want to get into it's just a question that i'm throwing out there

00:37:45.780 but they have been able to flourish against embedded hardened enemies and then all of a sudden

00:37:54.480 they just go through and they're able to just take over the way that they have you ever see that the

00:37:59.500 government has to be complicit at some point have you ever seen the uh the tv show ozark

00:38:05.900 i have so you know in one of the seasons the drug cartels are allowed to exist because the federal

00:38:13.760 government wants information i agree with that to a large force portion i've gotten an email from one

00:38:21.960 of your personnel and they were asking me about that exact question i had a good amount of time to think

00:38:27.100 about it and one of it is first of all we have to get rid of the notion that the cartel is not

00:38:34.840 operating in the united states it's absolutely it absolutely is the chinese from an ocean away

00:38:40.420 on the other side of the pacific or conducting illegal grows or even legal grows in the state

00:38:47.280 of maine legal grows rather all the way on the other side of the united states from china they're

00:38:53.560 conducting marijuana grows in maine so if you have people from china they're on the east coast of the

00:39:00.340 united states conducting grows it's a no-brainer that the mexican cartels are absolutely operating

00:39:07.460 within the united states when there are when there are nearest neighbors this goes without saying and

00:39:13.840 the government does allow it why they allow it i don't know but we do know that they have tunnels

00:39:20.320 that are coming in the united states have been smuggling in precursor drugs and personnel or human

00:39:25.360 trafficking for years and initially i didn't like the human trafficking trafficking aspect of it i wasn't

00:39:33.040 a believer but i am now having met enough immigrant people from here i have immigrants in this country

00:39:39.460 that i know that have been sequestered by the cartel in mexico and forced to work for them and

00:39:45.860 they are absolutely operating on both sides of the border internally and externally of this country

00:39:50.440 i personally without a doubt i think our government has been making these drug cartels very very wealthy

00:39:56.980 um let me ask you this the home home security task force says that they have removed three thousand

00:40:03.900 foreign uh terrorists and cartel members recovered two million fentanyl pills 70 tons of deadly

00:40:10.640 narcotics seized three million on currency and a thousand illegal guns from america uh does that sound like a dent

00:40:20.360 no i don't even think it's a scratch in the surface to be honest and i say that in basis of

00:40:29.520 i see what we what we confront in mexico and i also hear what happens in other states and the area of

00:40:37.340 mexico that i worked in is very hotly contested so there are a lot of cartels fighting for it

00:40:41.620 and the way borders work in mexico states interlap finger-like because they follow geographic

00:40:49.700 rivers or mountain ranges or whatever so you'll drive through several states and as a result you

00:40:55.960 are constantly interacting with other state and federal police agencies that are based in different

00:41:00.740 states and every state has the same thing so do i think that a few a thousand weapons puts a dent in

00:41:07.920 definitely not glenn not even close i do caution from my law school thing labeling people as a terrorist

00:41:15.560 without charging them or detaining them indefinitely in court i'm not with that i think that they do

00:41:22.780 need to be charged and have their day in court however would i label it as terrorism definitely

00:41:29.860 what if you have the charges that apply to it it is terrorism you're you're subjecting an entire

00:41:34.540 population under the implicit threat of violence at any moment even when they're in their homes minding

00:41:42.740 their own business i mean it's just not okay it's not a dent they you know i heard you talk about

00:41:48.120 these guys and they was they seem to come after just anybody i mean you told the story of a guy who

00:41:54.660 they just were taking the money out of his bank account for several days while they were torturing him

00:41:59.500 they they go after everybody in the community glenn one of the things that i did in mexico is i rented a

00:42:07.740 a warehouse because i was trying to build a helicopter out of carbon fiber and i was building

00:42:14.680 an auto an autoclave which is a vacuum chamber oven so you can bake impregnated resin for fibers

00:42:22.860 and one of the things when you're opening a business in mexico one of the primary reasons for

00:42:28.300 a lack of opportunity there is because even the normal citizenry if they try to get ahead and open a

00:42:36.540 business they're going to have the cartel in their shops shaking them down for money or extorting them

00:42:41.160 and so every single person if it's found out that you have money if they have a home

00:42:47.540 that the cartel wants the cartel will send people over them to go get their home everybody is a target

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00:44:06.460 so when i talked to the president four or five months ago and i watched it okay you remember his answer

00:44:17.420 he was very coy and he i said you know i'm kind of hoping that you know maybe some of these cartel

00:44:23.920 guys just wake up dead and uh the united states just sends in our elite elite teams and just starts

00:44:31.400 killing them all um and he said well i wouldn't want to get i'm not going to make that kind of news

00:44:36.920 tonight he didn't deny it didn't say it was true um that we would do that is that the right way to go

00:44:45.040 what's the right way to go to get these guys i don't think that that's a way that's going to work

00:44:50.220 and first of all my utmost i'll tell you my utmost respect to all the service members

00:44:56.820 because until you conquer the socioeconomic problems of a lack of opportunity you're going

00:45:03.720 to have a never-ending flood of people that need to eat that don't have access to a job and do not

00:45:09.440 have access to the american job market because they can't come here and if that's the case given

00:45:15.980 the demand for drugs in this country and others there's going to be a market that's going to

00:45:20.640 generate legal income that will continue to finance weapons situated in a society to where

00:45:29.800 confronting government whether it's internal or external is just the way that things are done the

00:45:38.160 way business is conducted so you can send people in and try to cut off the head try to cut off all

00:45:43.960 the other people however this is just going to continue to fill their ranks and continue to

00:45:50.160 conduct we've already done it we've done it with chapo we've done it with so many different cartel

00:45:56.900 heads zeta quarento i can go down an entire list and these organizations have continued to flourish

00:46:02.440 for decades now glenn so i don't think and they've been being killed this whole time

00:46:08.160 not going to work and you it's also not taking into consideration i mean one of the things reason

00:46:13.960 why isis is hard to deal with why um islamists are hard to deal with is they believe it it's a

00:46:20.600 religion and and this how much does this evil religion how big of a role does that play in this is that

00:46:31.180 just for the it plays a huge role in it because it sets a precedent that you can actually stand up to

00:46:38.740 a government confront them they drop helicopters out of the sky glenn so it's not something that

00:46:44.820 they haven't conducted with a small amount of success they've been very successful with confronting

00:46:49.880 government forces hardened government forces i might add because every military member and law

00:46:56.480 enforcement agent in mexico has been a member of this drug war for going on 15 20 years now

00:47:02.600 almost 20 years 2028 will be 20 years if it launched in 2008 so they're very battle-hardened

00:47:11.000 and you have cartels that are avidly blatantly challenging government forces be they american

00:47:19.500 or mexican because you have american intelligence operated operatives that are working in mexico

00:47:25.820 in an advisory in advisory functions or roles in mexico so they are working against both governments

00:47:33.080 and they have people that are working over here too so killing them i don't think that's going to

00:47:36.880 work they've tried it for 20 years so they we are they have they have bounties on the heads of

00:47:42.440 people here in america um and politicians here in america yeah how how real is that

00:47:49.140 i do think that there is some i think that that that there is some credence to that i think that

00:47:57.520 that is something that is on the table i don't know how many cartels in mexico because when you say a

00:48:05.340 cartel is putting a bounty on someone that works for dhs or ice or judges the level of heat that that

00:48:11.700 is going to bring right is substantial and so oftentimes because people ask me why am i still

00:48:18.800 alive i think that killing me would have generated more heat than it would have been worth just

00:48:23.500 because i'm an american citizen and when they still do have a they still have some boundary on that i

00:48:30.640 mean i know they kidnap americans at the border all the time but but there is it is it is business

00:48:37.520 when you're killing a judge or killing someone that works for the federal government yeah you are

00:48:41.580 definitely inviting the full weight of american military might i mean here's what here's what

00:48:49.560 they have they have uh bounties on federal officials two thousand dollars for gathering intelligence on

00:48:53.860 officers and their families including doxing publishing private information five to ten thousand

00:48:59.160 dollars for non-lethal assaults or kidnapping of ice and border patrol officers and up to fifty

00:49:05.660 thousand dollars for assassinating a high-ranking official

00:49:08.360 first of all i would question how they're going to pay that out i was going to say i'm not saying

00:49:15.700 i'm not saying that that's not true i i do believe that it is true but i'm saying that how would they

00:49:22.780 really go about paying that out um i do believe that their intent is there that they that they do not

00:49:32.120 want people messing with their money supply in any way shape or form i don't know enough about where

00:49:39.320 those where those claims came from however from what i've seen in the cartel with my time at work

00:49:46.240 in mexico it's absolutely within the realm of possibility or plausibility of what they would do

00:49:52.680 if something's affecting their money supply absolutely did we and under the biden administration

00:49:59.120 i always thought we were just enriching these cartels and we were aiding and embedding

00:50:04.160 um not just drug trafficking but human trafficking well we were but my problem with that and biden

00:50:13.400 to be honest i did not vote for biden at all obviously um

00:50:18.560 it's the same government that's been allowing this forever and so my my my caveat would be even though

00:50:28.480 there are a lot of things about the trump administration that i do support

00:50:31.900 the same government has been allowing this to go on forever and i would like to see

00:50:38.000 not a regime change an administration change i would like to see a policy change to where we're

00:50:43.040 not allowing this to be detrimental in both countries because at the end of the day

00:50:48.420 mexicans and americans have lived on this continent for centuries now

00:50:52.260 and we have to find a way to where something works for both countries either whether it's

00:50:59.880 guest worker programs more opportunity to where people are not involving themselves in cartels i'm

00:51:04.860 not an economic major in school but there has to be a smarter way to confront this problem than with

00:51:12.740 bullets and with your with the cartels claiming bounties on american officials i do agree that that

00:51:20.800 probably is in place but i mean if we've gotten to the level to where cartels are actively threatening

00:51:29.020 sitting people in administration and the dhs i mean that's problematic all by itself that's

00:51:35.760 something else needs to be done i'm not do you think the government going after the drug boats i mean

00:51:43.500 i think there's a lot to that story but is that uh sending a message to anybody in mexico at all

00:51:49.580 not really i don't think it is i just um the drug boats are there drug boats that they're taking

00:51:55.700 out probably are there innocent civilians being killed in that too i probably think that's also

00:52:00.900 the case because otherwise they would not have released the people that they'd captured to ecuador

00:52:04.900 they wouldn't have released people that were trafficking drugs and so to protect everyone in

00:52:10.980 society i think that due process is important that charges should be levied that innocent civilians

00:52:17.600 shouldn't be being killed because if they weren't drug trafficking why did they release those

00:52:21.560 people to ecuador the other people that they've gotten i think probably were trafficking drugs but

00:52:28.620 they still warrant their day in court and i think that we need to be clear about that what type of

00:52:33.420 people we want to be i do believe in justice is it sending a message the cartel the cartel is going

00:52:40.820 to do what they want to do regardless of whether they have people they're killed every day glenn and

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00:54:16.560 so i listened to the first broadcast or the podcast that you were on and it was really dark and i i had a

00:54:24.820 really hard time getting through it because it was so very dark but i thought i have heard of these

00:54:31.300 things but i don't think i have ever seen a first-hand witness that has come forward do you are you are you

00:54:40.520 the first first-hand witness to some of this evil stuff that you've seen that you know of there are

00:54:49.240 two other individuals and i had a call with one of them the other day i'll mention them by name

00:54:54.100 because you asked one is ed calderon he provided i've been uh a detractor of his for quite a while

00:55:00.400 because he hasn't come out i sent you all my paycheck stubs all my stuff substantiate who i am

00:55:05.620 he met he gave me his queep which is his clave unco identificator policiaca which is his police

00:55:13.040 identification number i have not taken the time to verify that and there's another person by the

00:55:18.480 name of gafe 423 who was um our instructors were special forces from the military they're from the

00:55:25.820 army and so he is someone that i would have worked with in the past not him personally but brethren of

00:55:32.440 his and they've come out and my problem with them is they don't corroborate or substantiate who they are

00:55:38.020 to the level that i have i'm not saying i'm more legit than they are i'm just saying that they

00:55:42.720 haven't corroborated or substantiated who they are but ed calderon has to a very great extent

00:55:49.740 detailed things that have gone on in tijuana and i have looked into a lot of it and so i'm not the

00:55:56.600 only one there are a couple other ones of us ed i have probably a 95 or 98 believing that he is

00:56:05.400 legitimate valid mexican law enforcement i think that he was doing intelligence which is a lot

00:56:12.000 different than what i was doing i was tactically operating it was probably intelligence gathering

00:56:17.480 and operating so it's a different and it's in different sections of the country but i do believe

00:56:22.180 that a lot of what he says is true correct so we were talking about solutions

00:56:28.600 spain is probably the best uh success story on drugs that i've seen in in world history uh they

00:56:40.980 they were horrifically overrun with drug problems i mean large you know i can't say not over 10 percent

00:56:49.340 but a large percentage for heroin uh people addicted on heroin living in the streets the whole thing was

00:56:56.760 coming undone their parks were a mess they were making everything just the government was doing

00:57:02.340 what we do just giving things away and making it easy and then they got hard on it or it was maybe

00:57:07.740 it was hard first and then they went really soft but what they finally did was just take all of the

00:57:13.420 money from the drug war that they were doing and then just building programs uh for people to get

00:57:18.740 off of drugs and then they legalized all the drugs and the crime went away the uh the number of people

00:57:26.400 addicted to drugs went way way down and spain weathered something that i i would have said you

00:57:33.900 wouldn't have been able to recover from is that the answer i agree i think that it is i'm and most of my

00:57:41.940 audience on my little channel my channel is nothing like yours but i have a channel and i do get comments

00:57:46.220 and it's not a popular opinion because people make their livelihoods out of confiding the drug war

00:57:52.800 to the tune of billions if not trillions of dollars right in many countries and so people

00:57:59.840 legalizing drugs isn't popular i think a lot of things do happen when you legalize drugs initially

00:58:06.040 there is a spike in drug use and there is a ugly problem with addiction homelessness and other things but

00:58:13.640 i think that that's the better way to go because if you want to confront anything the first thing a

00:58:19.880 government does when they want to attack something is try to cut the purse strings to anything

00:58:25.960 that are against divorce court they go after their child support and everything business law they're going

00:58:33.760 after the billion dollar findings against companies you have to attack the profit margin at some point if

00:58:41.860 you want to get serious about fighting drugs in any capacity

00:58:45.560 given that there are people that want to do drugs and if you legalize it you take away the allure

00:58:53.240 of all that and we've seen it already with the marijuana i live in portland right now and previously i was

00:58:59.400 living in san francisco and i've seen the needle exchanges driving up taylor street and 6th street in san

00:59:04.400 san francisco i'm completely against it and they cited it as cutting down on aids and hiv but you have to

00:59:13.300 do something or incorporate other ideas to fight this glenn because what we've been doing for the last 20

00:59:19.180 years or even since just say no with nancy reagan i i watched that and i supported reagan when i turned 18

00:59:26.920 it was the year he got voted in the office so i mean i am very

00:59:30.560 biblically minded i do agree with trying to make sure that we

00:59:37.140 fulfill what our our role is as christians but at the same time if you have a

00:59:42.220 an approach to something that is problematic and has been for decades and it's still

00:59:47.460 existing yeah there's a problem with your solution yeah you need to find a different approach um

00:59:54.780 i i worry about you know what i even put into my own head you know watching tv or or whatever

01:00:08.060 because it it affects you um and i can't imagine how i mean you have seen people who cut hearts out

01:00:18.700 and eat them cannibalism you have seen some of the worst of the worst things man can see

01:00:25.020 and you have been trying to snuff out a a religion that is clearly devil worship

01:00:33.860 how not just me there's go ahead tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of honorable mexican people

01:00:41.760 that suit up every day and put on their uniform and serve the republic of mexico and

01:00:47.180 by and large serve our our republic here in the united states trying to prevent that from ever

01:00:53.060 getting here to begin with and they're sold short um a lot of us have seen that stuff when you

01:01:00.440 it's the price of trying to make society a better place it's just how have you dealt with that how

01:01:07.520 i mean spiritually that must have scarred you when i was still working i had a couple different

01:01:15.100 nights where i had woken up trying to break my wife's neck in his sleep i was fighting somebody

01:01:20.200 from the cartel in my sleep another time uh talking during my sleep and i would have uh

01:01:26.620 speaking in my sleep and my wife would overhear me about stuff that was going on at work

01:01:31.660 i don't deal with that anymore some people say i have ptsd i don't think i do at all not not in the

01:01:37.520 slightest it's not something that's ever going to go away there are things that i remember but also

01:01:44.120 at the same time i balance that with all the beautiful things that i've seen we're trying to

01:01:51.280 help people stay busy i'm pursuing a degree in law right now because i would like to help people in

01:01:57.340 this country that don't have access to it and i feel like a loser kind of because i have all these

01:02:02.960 lofty goals and visions but i'm not there yet you have to just stay on top of it i look at you and i

01:02:08.960 just think that you're like the pinnacle of success because the audience you know people that you're

01:02:13.120 allowed to reach is amazing i think it's awesome and i want to be able to help people on a personal

01:02:18.240 level so you asked how i deal with all of that by trying to be productive and positive on this earth

01:02:24.220 because that's one of the reasons my god put me here i have to tell you just surviving your life

01:02:30.000 you're the biggest success story i know uh i mean you have started out there's disadvantaged and then

01:02:38.380 there's you um and and then the way you have turned all of it into something good all the way along and

01:02:48.080 have survived it and now going to law school i think you're i think you're wildly successful

01:02:53.280 oh i'm not in law school yet i have to complete a degree in this country because my degree in mexico

01:02:58.380 doesn't work so i'm currently going to school for computer science to get a degree in programming

01:03:03.840 there's four states here in the united states glenn vermont washington oregon and california that will

01:03:09.740 allow you to work for a lawyer and study them in lieu of going to law school that's the course that i'm

01:03:16.560 pursuing because if i try to hang out the four-year degree and then another few years in law school it's

01:03:21.200 going to take too long but that's the plan that i'm on but i'm not i have a blessed life glenn there's so

01:03:27.660 many people that have rougher lives that didn't have parents that cared for them my parents did

01:03:32.980 finally get me back and cared for me i appreciate the compliment but i mean there's a lot of people

01:03:38.260 out there that suffer much more than i have i want to make that clear yeah i i really appreciate our

01:03:44.520 conversation we'll be watching you and tracking you and uh and praying for you as well best of luck

01:03:50.140 thank you so much for sharing and thanks for all you've done glenn thank you for having me on your

01:03:55.160 show i appreciate it and i hope that it's been interesting and anytime you want to reach out

01:03:58.720 feel free you got it god bless thank you you too sir thank you

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The Glenn Beck Program - November 01, 2025

Ep 272 ｜ He Hunted SATANIST Mexican Cartels and SURVIVED ｜ Dave Franke ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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