The Glenn Beck Program - November 15, 2025


Ep 274 | The RETURN of a Hidden Biblical Alien Race? | Timothy Alberino | The Glenn Beck Podcast   


Episode Stats

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1 hour and 6 minutes

Words per Minute

153.45815

Word Count

10,202

Sentence Count

689

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

20


Summary

Timothy Albarino is an explorer, teacher, real-life Indiana Jones, and the author of Birthright, the coming post-human apocalypse and the usurpation of Adam s dominion on Earth. Tim has led a fascinating life, and I don t know exactly what to think of his theories yet, but they are so worth thinking about.


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00:01:19.280 Today's podcast is going to be tough, I think, for a lot of people.
00:01:25.840 Tough even for me because it will challenge everything that you think you know.
00:01:30.940 It may not be right.
00:01:32.800 But I think in the end, the conclusion, the end product is right.
00:01:40.100 But it's going to be tough because you're also going to be hearing phrases and words that you define one way that don't necessarily in this context mean that.
00:01:52.420 And where it ends is transhumanism.
00:01:55.240 No, where it ends is selling your birthright, which is salvation.
00:02:00.520 Is there and has there been an alien race hiding in plain sight in the book of Genesis throughout the Old Testament and in the New Testament?
00:02:15.480 Are we going to see a return of the gods?
00:02:19.780 I think, I think we are.
00:02:23.580 And I understand it in a completely different way.
00:02:27.420 Welcome, explorer, teacher, real life Indiana Jones and the author of Birthright, the coming post-human apocalypse and the usurptation of Adam's dominion on Earth.
00:02:40.700 Welcome to the podcast, Timothy Albarino.
00:02:49.780 Tim, I have spoken to prime ministers and presidents and philosophers and religious leaders of all kind.
00:03:09.200 I think I am more intrigued by this next hour than anybody I have ever spoken to.
00:03:16.000 You have led a fascinating life, and I don't know exactly what to think of your theories yet, but they are so worth thinking about.
00:03:25.840 So welcome.
00:03:26.780 Glad you're here.
00:03:27.880 Thank you for having me, Glenn.
00:03:28.860 I'm delighted to be with you.
00:03:30.600 Yeah.
00:03:31.840 Can we start with you growing up living with monkeys in the jungle?
00:03:36.440 An appropriate place to start, I believe.
00:03:39.040 Right.
00:03:40.360 I dropped out of high school.
00:03:41.940 Well, I've dropped out slash got kicked out of high school when I was 18.
00:03:46.000 And by very circuitous route, I ended up in Peru.
00:03:53.060 So I was 18 years old, living in the Amazon, the Peruvian Amazon, learning Spanish.
00:03:58.640 And as you said, living with monkeys, I was living on the outskirts of a town, jungle town called Terrapoto in the Amazon basin.
00:04:07.200 And I was adapting to the culture very well.
00:04:10.660 And one day I went down to the market.
00:04:12.940 And in those times, it was like an Indiana Jones movie.
00:04:15.460 You walk into the market and they're selling all manner of fauna, all manner of jungle wildlife, jaguars and monkeys and parrots.
00:04:23.040 And it's not that way anymore, but it was back then.
00:04:27.160 And so I purchased a few different species of monkeys and proceeded to live with these animals up in my very primitive dwelling on the outskirts of town.
00:04:40.580 And that's how I got inculcated in Peruvian culture and learned Spanish.
00:04:47.660 OK. And so when you say you're kind of living in this Indiana Jones thing, I mean, didn't you discover an ancient lost civilization?
00:04:56.800 Well, I was back in 2019.
00:05:00.180 I've been doing various expeditions to Peru and elsewhere around the world, especially in Peru.
00:05:06.260 And in 2019, me and my colleague, the renowned Spanish explorer Anselm P. Rambla, we went up into the Andes Mountains and we were looking for a lost Inca city.
00:05:17.500 We had received information of a potential lost city in this particular area in the Andes.
00:05:22.260 And so we mounted a couple of expeditions and we discovered it.
00:05:26.480 And it's a remarkable place. It has not been published yet.
00:05:29.800 It's it's the locals call it Tauri Punku.
00:05:33.000 And we think that it is it's a significant either Inca or pre-Inca city, perhaps belonging to the Chachapoyas people.
00:05:40.600 We're not sure. But, you know, Peru, there's there's so much discovery discovery left to be made in Peru.
00:05:47.240 I consider Peru to be the last best place for making discoveries.
00:05:55.600 So talk to me, because you this kind of turn your life kind of turned on megaliths.
00:06:03.840 First, explain what a megalith is and and what how that turned you into into where we're going here in a minute.
00:06:11.500 Well, when I was living in Peru, I had an opportunity to I lived in Peru for 10 years.
00:06:15.740 I had the opportunity to travel extensively around the country.
00:06:20.380 And this is when I was first confronted with with what are called megaliths.
00:06:25.980 Megaliths are edifices, large edifices that are constructed with with stones that are fitted together without the use of any kind of a bonding agent.
00:06:37.600 So without the use of mortar, this is known in archaeology as Cyclopean architectures.
00:06:43.600 And yes, they're referring to the Cyclopes of Greek mythology because the Greeks.
00:06:50.680 The one eyed giants.
00:06:52.640 Precisely, because the Greeks believe that these that these gigantic megalithic constructions that are found in Greece as well throughout Greece.
00:07:00.680 These were constructed by the offspring of the gods, the one eyed Cyclopes and that that this knowledge of megalith building had had come from the gods.
00:07:13.740 And in Peru, you have some of the most exquisite Cyclopean architecture on planet Earth.
00:07:18.620 If you go to Cusco, as many people have visited Cusco en route to Machu Picchu, you will see the walls of Sacsayhuaman, which are some of the most impressive, one of the most impressive megalithic sites on planet Earth.
00:07:32.140 And these are just mammoth walls that are constructed with solid blocks of stone, some of them weighing in excess of 200 tons, fitted together so tightly.
00:07:42.480 The joints are so tight, you can't stick a butter knife between them.
00:07:45.780 And in the case of Sacsayhuaman, these are polygonal megalithic stones, which means they have sort of a pillowed look to them as if they were not entirely hard when they were fitted together.
00:07:57.040 Imagine a bunch of like imagine taking pieces of Play-Doh and squishing it together.
00:08:02.560 That's what these walls look like or clay.
00:08:05.880 And and these they're magnificent.
00:08:09.200 The walls of Sacsayhuaman are magnificent.
00:08:11.720 And indeed, when the Spaniards, when the conquistadors arrived to Sacsayhuaman and they beheld these magnificent megalithic walls, they concluded these could not have been made by human beings.
00:08:22.860 They had to have been built by giants or demons or some supernatural power.
00:08:28.460 Many, many people.
00:08:29.520 In fact, almost everyone is familiar with with the the legendary Inca site of Machu Picchu.
00:08:38.180 Well, the foundations of Machu Picchu are megalithic.
00:08:42.240 And in the Quechua word for Machu Picchu is Ijampu.
00:08:46.800 And Ijampu means in Quechua, the abode of the gods.
00:08:50.160 So the Inca themselves believed, and I think this is apparent, the Inca themselves believed that the megaliths were built by the gods and that they being the offspring of the gods were the natural inheritors of the works of the gods.
00:09:05.400 And so they re-inhabited and they rebuilt what they believed was the habitation of of the of the gods.
00:09:13.740 And you can find this again, the megalithic constructions all over the earth, especially in Peru.
00:09:18.580 Right.
00:09:20.160 Some of the stuff like, for instance, the the the stones around the Sphinx that are cut out perfectly and they don't and then moved whole and they don't know how they were cut out of the rock, out of the ground.
00:09:38.660 Right.
00:09:40.580 What's interesting is if you if you look at the temples around the Sphinx, yes, there are megalithic constructions in Egypt.
00:09:48.480 And you see the very same cyclopean technique, the very same cyclopean technique as you see all over the earth.
00:09:56.060 So when you look at the walls of Ojantaytambo in Peru, for example, and you see how they took a large block of, in some cases, andesite, in some cases, granite, they take a large block and they fit it into a corner.
00:10:08.240 Now, if you and I are building an edifice with large blocks and we're going to create a corner joint, we're going to either stagger the blocks, you know, like we do with bricks, or we're going to or we're going to or we're going to butt the blocks up together to create a nice, clean joint.
00:10:22.940 But these builders, these cyclopean masons, they took the piece of stone and they literally curved it into the corner.
00:10:31.660 They would curve the stone into the corner, which is much more, which is exceedingly more difficult.
00:10:38.120 They do this at the temple in front of the Sphinx, just like they do it in the walls of Ojantaytambo.
00:10:43.860 Well, this is the fingerprint of a ubiquitous knowledge that somebody had a long time ago on planet Earth, because I don't believe that the megaliths in Peru were built by the Inca, and I don't believe that some of the oldest, like the Sphinx, archaeological edifices on the Giza Plateau, for example, were built by the Egyptians.
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00:13:06.560 Okay, let's start now with, and all we're doing is building a foundation.
00:13:13.860 And when you see what he's built, and then we start really talking about what's happening today, it's going to come together and you're going to be amazed.
00:13:23.040 Let's start with the sons of God.
00:13:25.860 And let me read this from Genesis.
00:13:28.300 This is Genesis 6, 1 through 5.
00:13:30.640 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, the daughters were born unto them.
00:13:36.140 And the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair, and they took the wives of all which they chose.
00:13:42.640 And the Lord said, my spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he is also flesh, yet his day shall be 120 years.
00:13:52.020 There were giants in the earth in those days.
00:13:54.840 And also after that, when the sons of God came into the daughters of men, and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men, of which were of old, men of renown.
00:14:06.660 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
00:14:17.260 Okay.
00:14:18.260 All right.
00:14:19.180 We kind of know this story, but we always bypass the giants part.
00:14:26.040 And the sons of God may be misinterpreted.
00:14:31.580 Can you tell me your look at Genesis and why this is a foundational stone here?
00:14:38.620 Well, the first thing I would note is that you'll notice that no effort is made by the author of Genesis to elucidate the details of this peculiar digression in the Genesis narrative.
00:14:51.860 It's just there.
00:14:54.160 There's no explanation for it.
00:14:55.940 And the reason for that is because the author presumes the reader's knowledge of this infamous affair.
00:15:03.200 The story, therefore, must have been thoroughly chronicled elsewhere in the Hebraic scriptures and then widely disseminated, at least in oral tradition.
00:15:13.080 So this is something that was known.
00:15:15.200 The author of Genesis is making reference to this extraordinary event that is clearly very well known to the reader and documented elsewhere.
00:15:23.620 And what is the event?
00:15:24.700 Because I had never heard this before.
00:15:27.780 What is the event?
00:15:29.180 So the event is the sons of God.
00:15:32.160 This term is benai ha-elohim.
00:15:36.500 And it never, never refers to human agents in the Old Testament.
00:15:43.420 The term sons of God only and exclusively refers to angelic beings, to celestial beings.
00:15:53.420 So we are right out of the gates here.
00:15:55.840 We are not talking about human actors.
00:15:58.100 And there's a theory called the sons of Seth theory, which posits that the sons of God were just the noble offspring of Adam.
00:16:07.940 And it's ridiculous because this tradition is so well known among, in ancient Hebrew cosmology.
00:16:14.380 It forms the substratum to so much of what we read in the Old and in the New Testament, this incident.
00:16:21.500 So what we're looking at are non-human beings, celestial beings, the sons of God, angelic entities, who are observing the earth, who are watching the earth.
00:16:33.420 This is why probably they're called watchers in the book of Daniel and elsewhere.
00:16:36.960 And they are lusting after the daughters of Adam.
00:16:44.160 And so they descend to the earth.
00:16:46.840 They take, as the book of Genesis says here in Genesis 6, they take, they choose from among the daughters of men, women that they, maidens that they ultimately wed.
00:17:00.120 And then they procreate with these women.
00:17:03.220 And the result is a race of giants.
00:17:06.060 They progenerate a race of giants in the earth.
00:17:10.400 And these giants are referred to in the biblical narrative as Nephilim.
00:17:14.140 And, you know, so you have a problem if, if you, if you think that these are human agents, just, you know, men, just normal human beings copulating with, with normal human women, normal human males with normal human women.
00:17:30.420 How do you get giants as a result?
00:17:33.040 How do you, how do you get, how do they procreate Nephilim?
00:17:37.580 It's the equation.
00:17:38.660 Okay.
00:17:38.820 So wait, explain what Nephilim is because the translation for Nephilim is fallen one, right?
00:17:44.800 Well, that's disputed.
00:17:46.960 Nephilim is a giant.
00:17:50.000 There's a, there's a, you can, you can derive Nephilim from, from, from the Hebrew word nephal, which means to fall.
00:17:57.320 But I think it comes from the Aramaic.
00:17:58.980 I would, I think that the late Dr. Michael Heiser had the right interpretation of, of the word Nephilim.
00:18:05.720 It comes from the Aramaic, which is Nephilim, which means giants.
00:18:11.960 And, and in the Greek and in the Septuagint, these beings are referred to as gigantes, as, as giants.
00:18:20.000 So when you read Nephilim.
00:18:21.420 And we're talking, we're not talking about figurative giants.
00:18:24.560 We're talking about actual giants.
00:18:27.580 Yes.
00:18:28.020 Like, like what David fought.
00:18:31.260 Precisely.
00:18:31.940 Beings of gigantic stature.
00:18:33.400 And in the antediluvian world, in the world before the flood, they were even larger than the post-flood giants.
00:18:39.680 Because they were in the world, and this is what Genesis says later, they were in the world both before the flood and after the flood.
00:18:45.900 And obviously, we know that they're in the world after the flood, according to the biblical narrative.
00:18:49.920 Joshua and the Hebrews are confronting these races of giants who are dispersed throughout Canaan, especially in the highlands.
00:19:00.900 The Anakim, for example, who are the descendants of the Nephilim.
00:19:04.100 And there are, I mean, if I'm, if I'm not mistaken, there was, there were giants that were found here in America.
00:19:13.920 Yes.
00:19:15.140 Right?
00:19:16.020 Oh, yes.
00:19:17.300 This is known as the Smithsonian Gate, as the Smithsonian cover-up.
00:19:21.380 Right.
00:19:21.540 And there were the bones of giants being discovered all over America back from the mid-1800s back to the early 20th century, and primarily in the mounds, in the Indian mounds.
00:19:32.880 You know, there were thousands and thousands of Indian mounds, you know, east of the Mississippi.
00:19:37.440 And many of these mounds, according to the Smithsonian's own records, many of these mounds contained anomalous artifacts, especially the bones of giants and gigantic axes and all manner of strange artifact.
00:19:53.800 And in even, what's remarkable is, even Abraham Lincoln, while waxing poetically about Niagara Falls, makes reference to the bones of that ancient species of giants in the mounds.
00:20:09.240 And it was well known.
00:20:10.780 I mean, this was, this was not conspiratorial back in the mid-1800s.
00:20:15.860 So who are these beings, these sons of God?
00:20:20.060 Because they go very dark.
00:20:23.760 They're, are they like the fallen ones?
00:20:26.920 Are they angels that have?
00:20:29.980 So really, in order to get insight into this Genesis 6 affair again, which is, which is a, which is a bizarre digression in the Genesis narrative.
00:20:39.320 Again, because the author is presuming that his audience is well informed and, and, and has, and has been informed from some other kind of tradition.
00:20:50.500 Um, this story is expanded upon, is expounded in the book of Enoch.
00:20:56.820 And in the book of Enoch, it, it, it, it delineates.
00:21:00.080 Wait, before you go there, talk, talk, talk about the book of Enoch.
00:21:03.560 Because up until we found the Dead Sea Scrolls, we only saw it in Ethiopia.
00:21:07.920 I thought it was, you know, the Ethiopians made it up 200 years, you know, 200 years ago, whatever.
00:21:12.360 We find the Dead Sea Scrolls and we now know that the book of Enoch is from the ancient times, but it is a, it's an apocrypha book.
00:21:21.420 Yes.
00:21:22.360 It's, well, it's pseudepigraphical.
00:21:23.920 It's pseudepigraphical.
00:21:26.000 Meaning?
00:21:27.200 Meaning that it, it, it claims to be written by a biblical author, um, but the authorship is unknown.
00:21:33.420 Okay.
00:21:34.200 So, uh, you know, Enoch is, the book of Enoch, uh, was discussed, was, was rediscovered in 1773 by the Scottish explorer James Bruce of Canard.
00:21:46.280 This, by the way, is a collateral relative.
00:21:48.640 James Bruce of Canard is collateral relative of the illustrious Robert the Bruce, who led the Scots to victory in their war of independence against, um, the English in the early, early 14th century.
00:22:00.740 Robert the Bruce was also, incidentally, a Freemason, Freemason of the Scottish Rite.
00:22:05.260 And I think he was looking for the Ark of the Covenant.
00:22:07.180 So he went to Ethiopia and, um, and he discovered in Ethiopia, he, he, he brought back to England a copy because he, he delivered a, he brought two copies back to England.
00:22:20.160 And then one, he delivered to the king of France on his way home, two copies of the book of Enoch, the Ethiopic book of Enoch, which is called First Enoch.
00:22:29.260 And it's written in Gies, which is the liturgical language, uh, of, of the Ethiopian, of the Ethiopians.
00:22:37.400 And it turns out that although the book of Enoch had not been accepted into the canons of, of the, into the, the canons of the Jews, the canon of the Jews, rather, and the canon of the Christians, it had been inducted into the canons of the Beta Israel Jews and the Tawahedo, Orthodox Tawahedo Christians in Ethiopia.
00:22:59.860 So the book of Enoch disappeared, it all but disappeared from the world in around 500 AD, by, by about 500 AD.
00:23:08.400 However, it was preserved in Ethiopia by both the Jews and the Christians who, as I said, had inducted it into their canons.
00:23:17.500 So if you go, if you were a Christian growing up in Ethiopia, or a Jew, or an Orthodox Jew, Orthodox Christian, Orthodox Jew, growing up in Ethiopia, you would have had the book of Enoch.
00:23:27.700 Now, first Enoch, as, as part of your, your scriptures, it would have been considered holy writ.
00:23:34.380 And so it was in 1773 that the book of Enoch got, became reintroduced, um, into the corpus of, of, of extra biblical texts.
00:23:47.340 And then we had, of course, R.H. Charles, who made a definitive, um, uh, English version, um, back in 1912.
00:23:55.420 And so the book of Enoch was, is referenced actually by many of the early church fathers, including Clement and Barnabas, the friends of Paul, Irenaeus, Origen, Tertullian, Anthenagoras of Athens, and Justin Martyr.
00:24:08.560 And, and these, all of these, many of the church fathers held a favorable view of the book of Enoch, and some even referenced it as Holy Scripture.
00:24:17.020 Now, I'm not here to argue that the book of Enoch should be in the canon.
00:24:20.500 That question is actually quite irrelevant to me.
00:24:23.560 But it's very, very fascinating, because as I said earlier, you cannot, you cannot separate, you cannot extract the Enochian tale from the biblical narrative.
00:24:36.060 It is foundational, and it's not just foundational in the Old Testament.
00:24:43.060 Back with more of this fascinating conversation with Tim in just a second.
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00:26:27.320 Okay, so before we get to where you can spot it in the New Testament and Old Testament,
00:26:33.260 tell me the story of Enoch.
00:26:36.040 What's the salient point here?
00:26:38.700 Okay, so Enoch begins just like in the book of Genesis.
00:26:45.940 In fact, in the book of Enoch, you have, ironically, in Enoch, Chapter 6, the first few verses,
00:26:53.460 just like in Genesis, you have the passage from which the passage in Genesis is derived.
00:27:01.000 It reads,
00:27:01.300 That's where the story begins.
00:27:20.120 So you have the angels of heaven looking down, lusting after the daughters of men.
00:27:24.320 And by the way, the designation angel, the angels of heaven, that's not just found in the book of Enoch.
00:27:29.960 That's also found in the Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Old Testament,
00:27:33.560 that the disciples of Christ were using, that the apostles were using.
00:27:37.880 In Genesis 6, it reads,
00:27:39.460 The angels of heaven.
00:27:42.100 And this is, of course, what...
00:27:43.000 And they don't mean it like we would mean angels, right?
00:27:46.220 Because we think of angels as this, you know, God-worshipping being.
00:27:52.140 Angels don't fall.
00:27:54.040 I mean, there were, you know, a third of the angels fell.
00:27:56.540 But we're not talking about the good angels?
00:27:59.540 Okay, so we're talking about it in Enoch.
00:28:01.720 Enoch designates these angels as watchers.
00:28:05.340 And the watcher designation is not exclusive to extra-biblical material.
00:28:08.960 It's found in the book of Daniel.
00:28:10.500 You'll recall that in the book of Daniel, there's this incredible scene in which Nebuchadnezzar is being judged by the holy watchers,
00:28:18.380 by a council of holy watchers.
00:28:20.680 And they, of course, condemn him to several years of madness,
00:28:25.360 in which he had the mind of an animal and was eating grass and so forth.
00:28:28.580 That was a sentence that came down from the watchers.
00:28:32.980 And so this is clearly hierarchical.
00:28:35.580 These are hierarchical terms.
00:28:37.180 The watchers are some exalted, probably members of the divine council.
00:28:44.420 And they, in the book of Enoch, are lusting after the daughters of men.
00:28:50.300 They decide—there's 200 of them, by the way, that are designated in the book of Enoch.
00:28:58.640 They decide to descend to the earth, to the summit of Mount Hermon.
00:29:02.320 They take there an oath.
00:29:04.880 They bind themselves by mutual imprecations.
00:29:08.260 By the way, Mount Hermon has, since time immemorial, been called the Mountain of Oath.
00:29:14.380 And then the watchers, these 200 watchers, descend into the plains, and they begin to select—
00:29:21.200 What is the oath they take?
00:29:22.780 I'm sorry?
00:29:23.980 What is the oath that they take?
00:29:25.860 The oath that they take is that, basically, we're all in this together, and we know that this is a grave sin, that this is a grave—what we're about to do is a grave transgression against the kingdom—against the king of heaven.
00:29:37.840 And so we're all in this together, and we are all going to suffer the consequences equally, share in the consequences, whatever befall.
00:29:45.660 That is a summation of the oath.
00:29:47.480 So they know what they're about to do is a grave transgression, and, of course, what they do is what's alluded in Genesis.
00:29:53.620 They take wives, they procreate with these women, and progenerate a race of hybrid giants.
00:29:59.960 And then they impart to mankind forbidden knowledge from heaven, and mankind is corrupted through this knowledge.
00:30:08.180 And the giants that are born of the watchers—these are hybrid beings, part watcher, part human—they begin to devour men.
00:30:18.300 They begin to devour mankind.
00:30:20.400 In fact, the Book of Watchers says that men were forced to feed the giants, but the giants were devouring all of the acquisitions of the land.
00:30:28.540 Their appetites were so enormous that men couldn't keep them satiated.
00:30:32.440 And so the giants began to devour men, and then men began to cry out to petition heaven.
00:30:40.360 And then God resolves to intervene, and through a series of judgments, he judges the watchers and their hybrid offspring, and then the flood ensues.
00:30:51.800 That's an encapsulation of the story that's presented in First Enoch in the earliest portion of First Enoch, the Book of the Watchers.
00:30:58.620 Okay, so let's go to where we see this.
00:31:03.720 I mean, Peter talks about how the angels sinned.
00:31:08.540 Okay, tell me that.
00:31:10.580 Yeah, so as I said, this story, the Enochian tale, forms the substratum of so much of what we read in both the Old and New Testaments of the Bible.
00:31:20.100 It's referenced multiple times in the Old Testament.
00:31:22.360 And then we find it in the New.
00:31:24.740 As you said, in 2 Peter, Peter writes that God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to Tartarus and delivered them into chains of darkness to be reserved for judgment.
00:31:36.060 And by the way, I forgot to mention that in the Book of Enoch, part of the judgment was that the watchers first would behold the destruction of their beloved sons,
00:31:44.540 who would be incited to war with one another, and then the flood would ensue, and the watchers were bound and cast into Tartarus in the Book of Enoch.
00:31:52.760 And so Peter's referencing that.
00:31:54.240 And there is simply no precedent for this reference within the canon of Scripture, within the 66 books of the Bible.
00:32:00.880 There is no reference for this.
00:32:02.700 And then Jude, the brother of James, he reiterates this in Jude, in the first chapter of Jude.
00:32:08.680 He writes, and the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, he has reserved an everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day.
00:32:18.960 And then a few verses later, Jude says, he writes this, and by the way, this is a copy and paste verbatim from the Book of Enoch.
00:32:29.100 Jude writes now, Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men, also saying,
00:32:35.600 Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of his saints to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them all of their ungodly deeds,
00:32:42.960 which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which the ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
00:32:50.360 This is, as I said, verbatim from the Book of Enoch.
00:32:54.400 So I think it is reasonable to conclude, based on—and there are many, many more references, by the way, to the Book of Enoch, indirect references that even Christ makes.
00:33:05.500 It is reasonable, therefore, to conclude that the Enochian text must have been numbered among the scrolls in the synagogues.
00:33:14.320 There must have been some iteration of what we call 1 Enoch today that was being referenced directly by the apostles and by the writers of the Old Testament.
00:33:24.740 Okay, so this takes us to a couple of possibilities.
00:33:32.760 One, you have the demigods, you know, from Athens and all of that, gods coming down and mating.
00:33:39.580 And that's where I think you can throw people who are like, no, wait, but that's a different religion that has nothing to do with us.
00:33:49.900 And also, because if I understand, you know, you call this the elder race, they had such knowledge, and they built everything, and they gave us this knowledge.
00:34:02.920 That's also where some people will say, oh, well, that's extraterrestrials that came down and gave us.
00:34:08.940 But you're saying, if I'm not mistaken, both the extraterrestrial thing and the demigods thing, it is Enoch.
00:34:17.120 It's this.
00:34:18.380 It is an integral part of Hebrew cosmology.
00:34:23.520 This is what the Hebrews believed.
00:34:25.000 Now, partly because of Augustine, we have forgotten this narrative.
00:34:33.120 We've read it out of the biblical narrative.
00:34:39.260 We've had a view of the antediluvian world that is quite incomplete and in many senses inaccurate.
00:34:47.100 The ancient Hebrews clearly believed that these, and I'm going to call them extraterrestrial beings because that's precisely what they are, descended to the earth in the days of the pre-flood patriarchs.
00:35:00.320 And this general narrative is ubiquitous among the primary cultures, the primary early civilizations on planet earth.
00:35:07.680 They all believe that this happened.
00:35:09.240 Of course, they all have different theological perspectives on it.
00:35:12.440 I mean, the ancient Egyptians referred to this as Zeptepi, the first time when the gods descended to the earth and cohabitated and commingled themselves with the daughters of men, and that these were the civilizing gods of the Mesopotamians.
00:35:32.220 These were the sages, the Apkalu sages in the Mesopotamian mythologies.
00:35:38.740 You find this all over the world.
00:35:42.000 As I said, in every primary culture, you have this story, and the biblical narrative is no exception.
00:35:47.940 And so, you know, we read, for example, in the book of Job that in reference to these being extraterrestrial beings, we read in the book of Job that the sons of God shouted for joy and the morning stars sang together when God was laying the foundations of planet earth.
00:36:07.040 So what we have here is a preexistent race of exalted beings who are not human, who are in the picture, who are in the story before the foundations of the earth are laid, and certainly before the creation of Adam.
00:36:22.920 And these beings, their provenance is not planet earth very clearly.
00:36:27.440 They come from elsewhere in the cosmos.
00:36:29.260 So the term extraterrestrial simply defines a being whose provenance, whose origin is not planet earth.
00:36:38.200 That's all it means.
00:36:39.480 And so I believe it's...
00:36:40.540 But wait, wait, wait.
00:36:40.940 If these are angels, then they would have come from a spirit world.
00:36:46.720 You're saying that they're not that?
00:36:49.920 They're actual, they came from another planet?
00:36:51.980 I'm saying that it doesn't really matter where they come from.
00:36:54.860 If their provenance is not planet earth, they are, by definition, extraterrestrial.
00:37:01.780 And so I think we get hung up on some of these terms, but the reality is that the Bible defines them as such, not using that kind of terminology, but the idea, the concept is certainly apparent in the biblical narrative.
00:37:14.340 And I believe that the angels are very much like us.
00:37:17.960 Indeed, we are very much like them.
00:37:19.880 In fact, I believe that the human species, that mankind was created to be the younger sibling in the family of God, and that we have elder siblings, and that's why they're referred to as the sons of God.
00:37:33.720 Indeed, if you look at the genealogy of Jesus of Nazareth, it goes all the way, you know, through David, through Abraham, all the way back into the pre-flood world, through Noah, all the way back to Adam, who is designated as the son of God.
00:37:49.340 These are familial terms, and these familial terms are not incidental, they're consequential.
00:37:56.900 And the idea here is that there is a family, and that's part of what the gospel of Christ is, it's the restoration of the family of God.
00:38:06.520 Jesus brings us back into the Father's house, and we become the sons of God again, in the words of Christ, being sons of the resurrection.
00:38:16.220 So the idea here is that there is a family, God has a family, and that there's elder siblings in this family, the sons of God who pre-exist mankind, and then Adam and his offspring were created to be the younger siblings in this family.
00:38:32.000 But of course, we know the story, the tragedy is that we were divorced, sundered from that family because of sin, and now we're in a state, the human condition, which is sin and death.
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00:39:51.020 So, explain the Golden Age. What is the Golden Age?
00:39:56.160 Okay, so the Golden Age is Zeptepi. It's that time in the antediluvian world when the gods descended to the earth and cohabitated with the human species and imparted knowledge to them.
00:40:10.280 This is what's referred to as the Golden Age. The term Golden Age comes from the Greeks, but the concept, as I said, is ubiquitous all over the world.
00:40:17.900 And this is the time in which I believe that the megaliths were constructed, and it's a time when giants were roaming the earth.
00:40:31.100 And these beings, these non-human celestial beings, were, as I said, cohabitating the earth with mankind.
00:40:40.480 And this is, again, the Romans believed it, the Greeks believed it, the ancient Egyptians believed it, believed it, the Mesopotamians believed it, every primary ancient civilization.
00:40:50.980 And the Golden Race would have been the giants mixing with the actual humans.
00:41:00.280 The Golden Race is referred to as the offspring of the gods.
00:41:02.900 So referring back to Zeptepi, to the ancient Egyptian narrative, the Golden Race were the offspring of gods and men.
00:41:14.140 And a great illustration of this, by the way, is the story of Atlantis, Plato's story of Atlantis, which is found in the Critias and Timaeus dialogue.
00:41:23.140 And Plato begins the narrative, and, of course, this is, he has Solon of Athens, who journeys to Egypt, and Solon is consulting with the priests of Sais in Egypt.
00:41:39.720 And they're talking about their histories, and the Egyptian priests inform Solon that the history of the Greeks is infantile, that it's not hoary with age, like the histories of the Egyptians.
00:41:53.960 And then they proceed to tell Solon that the earth has suffered various cataclysms, and that civilizations have risen and fallen in the course of antediluvian history.
00:42:05.340 And they tell him the story of Atlantis, and the story of Atlantis begins with the gods, who are apportioning the earth amongst themselves.
00:42:14.720 They're dividing the earth up amongst themselves.
00:42:17.120 And Zeus, rather Poseidon, for his lot, he takes the region of Atlantis, and then he builds the island in the city of Atlantis.
00:42:24.680 And then what does he do?
00:42:26.180 He becomes enamored of a human woman.
00:42:28.520 Plato is her name.
00:42:29.660 And he weds this woman, and he copulates with her, and she conceives and gives birth to ten hybrid twins, to five sets of twins, hybrid sons of Poseidon, who, in other sources, appear to be giants.
00:42:48.040 And then these giants become the kings of Atlantis.
00:42:51.340 The chief among them is Atlas.
00:42:52.680 And then the Atlanteans eventually become a very militaristic society, and they begin a campaign of conquest, and they're steamrolling through all the other civilizations until the priests of Saïs and form Solon.
00:43:07.100 They encounter the Greeks.
00:43:09.560 They encounter the Athenians.
00:43:11.200 And the Athenians are the only civilization that is able to withstand the conquest of the Atlanteans.
00:43:19.840 And then what happens?
00:43:21.820 Cataclysm ensues.
00:43:23.760 There's a great cataclysm.
00:43:25.160 It's a flood.
00:43:26.800 And Atlantis is destroyed in a day and a night.
00:43:30.800 And not just Atlantis.
00:43:32.740 The entire world is destroyed in a cataclysm.
00:43:36.580 And this is just one illustration.
00:43:38.540 The story of Atlantis is, in many ways, an allegory of the antediluvian world.
00:43:44.400 And I think, and again, this story, I believe the origin of this story is the Enochian tale, which I would contend is one of the oldest, if not the oldest, stories in the annals of human history.
00:44:00.860 Okay, so this race of people, if you will, starts with the giants who come down, and they know they're doing evil.
00:44:12.140 They know they're doing wrong.
00:44:13.960 But then they create this, what sounds like kind of a utopian sort of world.
00:44:21.080 And then they're the reason why things go so wrong that God has to get Noah to wipe everybody out?
00:44:28.340 The, so in the, the Hebrew perception of the Golden Age is quite unique, because all of the other, the pagan cultures all view, as you rightly say, all view the Golden Age as a utopian paradise.
00:44:43.680 That's why they call it the Golden Age.
00:44:46.700 The Hebrews, however, view it as a dystopia, as a nightmarish dystopia, in which the knowledge of the watchers corrupts mankind.
00:44:57.480 And their offspring are exceedingly evil and cannibalistic, and introduce into the world a bloodlust that had not, that was not previously apparent.
00:45:10.280 And the watchers lead mankind into idolatry.
00:45:15.140 And this is the, this is the source for, this is the sin of the watchers.
00:45:19.240 This is the sin of the angels, again, that Peter and Jude are referencing.
00:45:22.020 And this, this results in the judgment of the flood, the judgment of the cataclysm that ensues on planet Earth and destroys the old world, annihilates the, what I, what I describe as the empire of the gods, of the watchers and their offspring.
00:45:41.260 And, and washes the earth, cleanses the earth of their abominable seed.
00:45:47.020 And remember that in, in Genesis, it says that the whole earth, that all flesh had corrupted its, its way on the earth, that all flesh was corrupted.
00:45:56.220 And this corruption in the, in the ancient Hebraic cosmological perspective was wrought by the watchers.
00:46:03.320 It's, and it's, it's referencing, by the way, a genetic corruption.
00:46:07.340 And so, and so God sent the flood to wipe the slate clean, so to speak.
00:46:12.200 This is where it becomes, uh, so important that you would at least consider this story because you say another golden age is coming.
00:46:28.200 And I have been watching this coming golden age for a long time, and I've had conversations with the people who are bringing this golden age, and it is absolutely terrifying.
00:46:40.440 And I have thought, that sounds like the mark of the beast.
00:46:44.160 That sounds like this, this, this, you're, you're going to lose yourself.
00:46:50.900 It's, it's, it's evil, um, the way it has been explained to me by some.
00:46:56.140 So, you say a new golden age is coming.
00:46:59.500 Explain what that means.
00:47:01.680 So, the events that led to the destruction of the old world are going to be repeated to some degree at the end of the age.
00:47:09.940 We are living at the end of the age.
00:47:12.460 And, uh, the, this phenomenon of the, of the, the gods commingling, commingling themselves with, with the offspring of, um, with, with the daughters of, of men.
00:47:23.680 And, and, and, and this, this idea of hybrid beings and, and everything that was done in the antediluvian world, the corruption of all flesh, um, I think is, again, going to be repeated to some extent.
00:47:35.960 Not exactly in the same way.
00:47:37.480 So, when I, um, when I set out to write my book, Birthright, the, the, I, it was prompted by a question that I had been, um, that I had been ruminating on for, for a while.
00:47:51.200 And the question is simply this, and, and, and this question, by the way, is a question that is unique to our times and, and, and has not really been something that, uh, earlier generations have had to contemplate.
00:48:03.060 But we have to, we have to contend with this question right now.
00:48:07.220 And it's simply this, what does it mean to be a human being?
00:48:11.520 And is our humanity worth preserving?
00:48:15.180 That is the most imperative question that we can ask.
00:48:20.620 Those are the most imperative questions that we can ask today.
00:48:24.980 And, and because we are on the cusp of, we are on the brink of what I describe as a post-human apocalypse.
00:48:33.180 And we are, we are advancing at, at an alarming pace toward the end of humanity as we know it.
00:48:43.060 And this is not, this is not alarmism.
00:48:45.700 Uh, this is not hyperbole.
00:48:47.080 This is exactly what the futurists and the technologists are saying.
00:48:53.000 You have, of course, um, you have, uh, you have, um, um, um, Ray Kurzweil.
00:48:59.500 Ray Kurzweil.
00:49:00.260 He's worse.
00:49:01.260 That's right.
00:49:01.960 Um, uh, Harari, you have these different, these different futurists out there who are predicting the end of humanity.
00:49:06.880 In the next hundred years, there will be no, in the next hundred to 130 years, there will be no more human beings left on planet Earth.
00:49:15.240 Well, what do they mean?
00:49:16.420 It's because we are, we are, in some sense, building the mechanism of our own destruction right now.
00:49:23.820 We are creating the tools that are going to, that are going to enable us to redefine human biology, to remake Adam.
00:49:34.620 And really what it amounts to is to, um, to become something other than Adam.
00:49:40.540 This is called post-human.
00:49:43.160 And, and where we are right now is-
00:49:45.560 And you're talking specifically about transhumanism.
00:49:49.320 That's precisely what I was about to say.
00:49:50.980 Emerging man and machine.
00:49:52.300 That's exactly right.
00:49:53.700 We're over here.
00:49:54.380 We're still human.
00:49:55.660 We're going to a post-human condition.
00:49:58.380 Again, what I refer to as a post-human apocalypse.
00:50:00.720 And the transitional period between this is called trans-human.
00:50:04.960 And that's precisely why it's called trans-humanism, because it's a transition.
00:50:09.760 The term is, is, it indicates a transition.
00:50:13.660 It's transitory from human to post-human.
00:50:16.240 So we're human right now, but in the future, we are going to become something other than human.
00:50:20.880 And from the secular, atheistic, Darwinian perspective, who cares, right?
00:50:27.460 Who cares?
00:50:28.180 Because there's nothing sacred about being human.
00:50:31.680 I mean, there's nothing in their worldview that makes the human being anything other than an animal with a bigger brain, right?
00:50:40.520 However, the biblical narrative is quite different.
00:50:45.400 The biblical narrative defines mankind, as I said earlier, as being created in the image and likeness of God and was created to be a member of the family.
00:50:57.100 That Adam was a son of God, given authority on earth.
00:51:00.800 He was bequeathed dominion of the earth.
00:51:03.980 This is the birthright of Adam.
00:51:06.140 And so we bear the image of God, and it's really important to understand what it means, from a theological perspective, what it means to be a human being.
00:51:16.760 And then to answer the question, is our humanity worth preserving?
00:51:21.040 Well, from a theological perspective, the answer is unequivocally yes.
00:51:25.980 Not only is it worth preserving, it is imperative that we preserve it, because we have a Savior.
00:51:32.960 We have a kinsman redeemer in Christ Jesus, who became one of us.
00:51:37.820 He became a man in order to redeem mankind.
00:51:40.960 So there's only one qualification for redemption in the cross of Christ.
00:51:46.040 You must be human.
00:51:48.940 You can be a sinner until you take your last breath.
00:51:53.080 You can be like the thief on the cross, who was a criminal, but who looks at Christ before he dies and acknowledges him as the Son of Man, as the Son of God, and he has saving faith.
00:52:06.720 So you can be—there is grace for the human to the very end of his life to receive Christ, but there's the qualification for the human.
00:52:18.440 So we become disqualified from salvation in the cross of Christ if we become something other than human.
00:52:27.460 So the states could not be higher here when we talk about transhumanism and post-humanism.
00:52:32.700 So for the atheist, from the Darwinian perspective, this is just the natural course of human development.
00:52:38.940 We are directing the course of our own evolution, and we are determined to become like the gods and to gain immortality and all of the extraordinary capabilities that are going to be available through the agency of technology to the post-human.
00:53:00.240 And we are accelerating in that direction.
00:53:03.280 I know.
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00:54:30.820 I urge you to read something like Ray Kurzweil's Age of Spiritual Machines.
00:54:38.500 You will understand that these people who do not believe in the soul or God or anything else have created something.
00:54:46.300 And as Kurzweil has told me himself, you'll be able to soon merge with the machine.
00:54:52.360 This was him 2010 maybe telling me this.
00:54:55.180 You're going to be able to merge with the machine.
00:54:57.020 And he said because it will be moving too fast.
00:55:01.760 You will have infinite knowledge, all of this stuff, that if you are not, if you don't understand the sacredness of the soul, it sounds like a golden age.
00:55:12.000 You will be able to access everything.
00:55:16.240 And then he starts in with, then you won't have to carry a wallet because everything will be stored.
00:55:22.080 And you're what you implant in you will become part of you.
00:55:28.000 And you'll think differently and you will be able to hive mind.
00:55:31.960 And that's not being a human.
00:55:35.240 And I said, Ray, what if you want to remain human?
00:55:39.880 And he said, why would you?
00:55:43.400 And he said, because, you know, I kind of like the original model.
00:55:46.200 And he told me, well, then you will have to be isolated because you'll be a problem for everybody else.
00:55:55.220 So anybody said everybody's going to want to do this.
00:55:58.480 And I think a lot of people will want to do this.
00:56:02.300 But I come back to where you're driving that, you know, when you read about taking the mark of the beast, there is no salvation for you.
00:56:13.600 Once you take it, it's over.
00:56:15.520 You can't untake it.
00:56:17.940 You can't you can't be redeemed at all.
00:56:20.640 It's the same with this.
00:56:23.380 Once you become transhuman, you can't undo that.
00:56:29.500 And you've lost your right to salvation.
00:56:32.100 And so you cannot be saved.
00:56:34.860 That starts to make that scripture in Revelation work.
00:56:40.220 That's all of a sudden you're like, oh, my gosh.
00:56:43.160 Yes.
00:56:43.420 You're not human.
00:56:44.900 And many more.
00:56:45.540 You can't buy and sell anymore.
00:56:47.460 Right.
00:56:48.060 I mean, think about it.
00:56:48.680 I know.
00:56:48.880 So right now you could you could probably maybe run a business without a cell phone, without access to the Internet, let's say.
00:56:56.620 But it would be really, really hard.
00:56:58.000 Right.
00:56:58.640 So that technology that we have in our hands, that in our cell phones, the technology we hold in our hands is going into our brains very soon.
00:57:06.140 It is going into the cerebral cortex.
00:57:08.020 And rather than surfing the Internet with our thumbs, we're going to be surfing the Internet with the with the with this accomplice, artificial intelligence through the speed of thought.
00:57:20.740 But we will be interacting with the compendium of human knowledge as soon as soon as we merge with the machines and also with artificial intelligence.
00:57:31.480 So how are you if you just want to be an old fashioned, homegrown, organic human being who's going to try and compete in that environment?
00:57:39.080 Think about young people going to university and they decide, you know what?
00:57:43.920 I don't want to upgrade.
00:57:44.980 I don't want the upgrades.
00:57:46.080 I don't want the enhancements.
00:57:47.580 I don't want to put the technology into my biology.
00:57:50.560 I don't want to.
00:57:51.200 I don't want the chip in my cerebral cortex.
00:57:53.000 How is that person going to compete with all of the trans human with all of us, all of the trans human students who are accessing the compendium of human information at the speed of thought?
00:58:05.480 It would be as if you are walking into a room and there's one person there that has an IQ of 20.
00:58:14.120 Precisely right.
00:58:15.040 They can't function.
00:58:16.020 I can't have a conversation with you.
00:58:17.740 I can't I can't do anything.
00:58:19.320 That's right.
00:58:19.640 Because you have an IQ of 20 and nobody and that was Ray's point.
00:58:24.600 Nobody wants that.
00:58:25.700 Everybody wants it.
00:58:26.480 And the way it's described and what you're seeing on the horizon, it is going to be described as a golden age.
00:58:36.700 It is.
00:58:37.400 It is.
00:58:38.060 And, you know, what's happening here is we're going full circle back to the beginning because our story begins in the Garden of Eden.
00:58:43.720 And the temptation of the serpent was, if you eat of this fruit, surely you will not die.
00:58:50.780 You will become like the gods.
00:58:54.680 You will become like the gods.
00:58:56.540 So it's the same temptation.
00:58:59.060 And what's happening here is we are succumbing to a Faustian bargain.
00:59:03.880 We are about to sell our birthright for a bowl of stew.
00:59:10.040 For the advances and the advantages of post-humanism, of trans-humanism, the enhancements, we are going to give away the most precious thing that we have, which is our humanity.
00:59:23.600 And that's why – and you can see the slow march.
00:59:27.320 You can see the cunning of the serpent, how the ground has been laid for this eventuality, that the human being has been degraded.
00:59:35.400 You know, it started with Darwin and then it progressed from there.
00:59:40.220 The gradual erosion of human worth and not just – not like – not worth as an individual, but worth as a species.
00:59:51.180 If you just – if you're just the product of evolution, if you're just the cousin of a monkey, then there are no guardrails.
01:00:00.800 There are no guardrails.
01:00:02.000 Who cares?
01:00:03.220 It doesn't mean anything to be a human being, and there's no reason whatsoever to preserve our humanity.
01:00:10.500 This is where the gospel of Christ is so important, especially for Christians to anchor themselves in the gospel of Christ.
01:00:15.740 Because, as I said, Jesus is a kinsman redeemer who became a man to redeem mankind.
01:00:22.560 And so I'm stressing, whenever I get the opportunity to talk to young people, that you need to understand the worth of your humanity.
01:00:29.920 The worth of your humanity.
01:00:31.160 And don't be beguiled into exchanging, into selling your birthright for a bowl of stew, for life extension, and for all of the extraordinary capabilities that are going to become available.
01:00:45.760 You know, we are living right now in what technologists and futurists call the hybrid age.
01:00:51.720 And the reason why they describe this as the hybrid age is because in the past you have various streams of technology that were being independently developed.
01:01:01.260 You had – these are the famous GRIN technologies, for example.
01:01:04.600 You had genetics, robotics, artificial intelligence, and nanotechnology.
01:01:08.440 Those are the four big ones.
01:01:10.360 And they're being developed, each one of them as a separate stream.
01:01:14.560 But today, in our time, these streams are coalescing.
01:01:18.380 They're coming together.
01:01:19.500 And so you now have, for example, you can take artificial intelligence – you could take artificial intelligence and insert it into a Tesla robot.
01:01:28.560 And now you have an autonomous robotic being, which in the future is going to be, by the way, policing our streets, fighting our wars.
01:01:38.880 And this goes for genetics, for nanotechnology.
01:01:43.700 We haven't even yet entered into the genetic revolution.
01:01:46.740 That's coming.
01:01:47.440 By the way, there's a – I don't know if you've read the book.
01:01:50.160 I'm trying to remember the name of the woman who wrote the book.
01:01:54.520 It's called Countdown.
01:01:55.980 And she predicts in the book that the sperm count of males in the West is going to zero by 2045.
01:02:07.080 In other words, we're reaching the end of our genetic rope.
01:02:09.920 And lo and behold, what are we developing right now?
01:02:13.400 Artificial wombs.
01:02:15.040 And we are perfecting in vitro fertilization.
01:02:18.200 We are – we're reaching the end of our genetic rope.
01:02:20.900 And the only way that the human species is going to be able to continue to breed, to populate, is through artificial wombs in the future.
01:02:29.400 We're already – the constructs, the framework of this post-human, again, apocalypse, not utopia, apocalypse, is being constructed right in front of our eyes.
01:02:39.320 Is there a line that you have in your mind?
01:02:44.800 Is there, like, you know, I'll do this, but I won't do that.
01:02:49.020 I mean, that's the scary part of this is it's such a slippery slope.
01:02:54.400 It's such a blurry line at the beginning that you don't exactly know.
01:02:59.820 It's – it'll be easier to spot in 10 years, 15 years.
01:03:04.820 Right now, today, in the next five years, it's going to be really slippery and hard.
01:03:11.500 Yes, it will, especially for our kids and our grandkids.
01:03:14.920 Right.
01:03:15.900 So, yeah, I have some guardrails.
01:03:17.900 So, you know, you have to talk about each one of these technologies separately, which we don't have time for, but let's talk about genetic technology.
01:03:25.540 So, right now, we have very effective genetic technologies that we're developing and improving.
01:03:31.380 For example, we have gene therapy.
01:03:33.440 Gene therapy is – if we – if I have a gene that's mutated and it's causing cancer, it's causing some other genetic disorder,
01:03:42.400 you can take that same gene from another human genome, and that's the key, from another human genome that has the correct code that's not mutated,
01:03:54.400 and you can take it and splice it into my genome and correct the code, right?
01:03:58.820 That's human-to-human genetic modification.
01:04:01.600 I've got no problem with that because it's human-to-human.
01:04:04.380 We're not altering the genetic matrix of the human species that God designed.
01:04:09.240 But once we start going beyond that, once we start doing one of two things, creating new sequences or integrating sequences from other kinds of creatures,
01:04:20.140 then we're crossing that species barrier.
01:04:22.320 We are now entering into cross-species genetics, which, by the way, is explicitly prohibited in the Bible.
01:04:30.180 So, cross-species genetics – this is one of the great sins of the Watchers, by the way.
01:04:34.300 They engaged in miscegenation, the mixing of species.
01:04:37.860 And so, that's a clear guardrail to me.
01:04:42.440 Human-to-human gene therapy, gene modification, I'm fine with.
01:04:47.880 But as soon as you cross the species barrier or you start creating new information to insert into the human genome,
01:04:53.540 you have transgressed the order of creation.
01:04:56.860 Yes. Yes.
01:04:57.760 I have to tell you, I don't know, because I haven't read everything that you have read, but I am going to be reading a lot of your work.
01:05:10.200 But I think your conclusion at the end is absolutely solid.
01:05:14.580 I feel it.
01:05:18.500 I feel it.
01:05:19.300 I feel this is – we are in the end of days.
01:05:24.260 I mean, even Elon Musk says, you know, there won't be – you know, I've got to get to Mars because there won't be humans left on Earth.
01:05:30.680 And yet, he's doing the transhumanism thing himself.
01:05:34.100 But the signs are all here.
01:05:37.620 We just have to be awake enough.
01:05:39.960 And I think the story that you have just told, which I have a lot of homework to do on,
01:05:46.180 but the story you've just told gives us the pattern of what to look for and the pattern that is coming.
01:05:53.680 And I think you're right.
01:05:54.380 Thank you for all of the hard work.
01:05:57.840 You know what?
01:05:58.600 I don't think – if you would have stayed in school and gone to university, I don't think you would have had this – you wouldn't have gotten here.
01:06:07.660 I think that's right.
01:06:07.780 Because you would have been thinking in the box.
01:06:09.540 I think that's right.
01:06:10.740 Yeah.
01:06:11.300 Thank you so much.
01:06:12.540 God bless.
01:06:12.860 Thank you.
01:06:13.320 I hope we can talk again.
01:06:14.620 It was my pleasure, of course.
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