The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 278 ｜ The Next Adele, Ella Fitzgerald & Billie Eilish？! ｜ Emma Nissen ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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00:01:14.940 Thoughts are just thoughts.

00:01:16.340 They're never true.

00:01:17.520 Unless they're a fact.

00:01:18.900 Facts are true.

00:01:19.540 But thoughts, they're made up.

00:01:21.820 Music is different than the spoken word or painting or anything else.

00:01:26.260 It's just different.

00:01:27.220 It speaks right directly to the soul.

00:01:32.540 Amazing.

00:01:33.320 So if you're making up that you're ugly and you're making up that you're beautiful,

00:01:37.160 choose the one that moves you forward, then hinders you.

00:01:39.500 This is the best gym encounter of all time.

00:01:42.000 I know.

00:01:42.840 I was seriously spiritually swole after that.

00:01:49.540 I have done interviews and met people that are like my biggest heroes in music.

00:02:17.120 Eric, Elton John, Billy Joel, B.B. King.

00:02:21.000 And I swore I'm not going to meet people I really, really like anymore because sometimes, like B.B. King.

00:02:28.700 Does it ruin the magic?

00:02:29.780 Yeah.

00:02:30.360 B.B. King hit on my wife. 0.95

00:02:32.840 No.

00:02:33.060 And I was like, no, B.B., no.

00:02:36.160 Didn't really pay attention to me.

00:02:37.580 He was just like, come on over here and sit on B.B.'s lap.

00:02:39.680 Um, uh, and we've spent a couple of hours together and you are, we're wonderful.

00:02:46.740 Thanks.

00:02:46.980 You're really wonderful.

00:02:48.020 I appreciate it.

00:02:48.740 Likewise.

00:02:49.280 I discovered you eight months ago.

00:02:52.980 That long ago, really?

00:02:53.800 Yeah, maybe.

00:02:54.560 Yeah.

00:02:54.880 Six months.

00:02:55.320 Well, I don't know.

00:02:55.760 Time goes by fast.

00:02:56.700 Yeah.

00:02:57.360 And, uh, I saw you because you were someplace and you were just, uh, riffing on the Hammond

00:03:04.920 B3 and you were singing Gotta Have Faith.

00:03:07.800 Oh, yeah.

00:03:08.660 And, uh, you didn't sing the whole song.

00:03:10.820 And I saw that and I was like, oh my gosh, who is this person?

00:03:14.780 And I listened to you.

00:03:16.480 And when I got there and started going through music, the first thing I heard, I don't remember

00:03:22.020 what it was, but I thought, oh, she sounds like Adele.

00:03:27.760 Then I listened to the next song and I went, no, she sounds like Billie Eilish.

00:03:33.320 And then I heard the next song and I thought, she's positively Ella Fitzgerald.

00:03:39.360 And I have found that whenever you can't put somebody in a box, that's when you have real

00:03:46.640 unique talent.

00:03:47.740 Well, thanks.

00:03:48.960 Um, tell me your story.

00:03:50.940 First of all, could play, um, uh, play, breathe the whole song.

00:03:58.060 If you want to, I've got the time, of course, we'll start with a banger. 0.98

00:04:02.840 Uh, that's, I mean, first of all, thank you for saying that because, you know, it was interesting

00:04:08.400 when I was putting together the album, I, uh, was listening to all of them trying to come

00:04:14.660 up with the order and I was like, I had written them pretty much in the, within one year of

00:04:21.620 it.

00:04:21.820 But when I was producing them, I produced them with about three different producers and

00:04:25.740 I felt like it all just kind of sounded different.

00:04:27.400 Like one was very, um, much gospel inspired and one was more poppy.

00:04:32.880 One was clearly more jazzy.

00:04:34.320 And, but I think I settled more on like, oh, it's okay for it to be diverse.

00:04:38.700 It's more like a bouquet, you know, cause you don't want just something me personally.

00:04:42.420 I don't care for a bouquet of just roses.

00:04:44.320 I like lots of wildflowers.

00:04:46.340 So I appreciate it.

00:04:47.880 And I feel like, you know, people, music has kind of changed in that it can be more than

00:04:53.460 one thing.

00:04:53.960 And that's kind of where we landed with Jesus and jazz, that it's not just one thing.

00:04:58.080 So this is prayer request.

00:05:01.640 Breathe.

00:05:02.860 I breathe, fill up my lungs, I breathe, the warmth of the sun I breathe.

00:05:14.320 Be good, so they'll be guiding when I breathe.

00:05:20.400 And I see so many holding on, I believe that when kingdom comes, I'll be good, really overcome

00:05:33.820 and breathe.

00:05:38.120 Feels like I'm drowning when it's me, my thoughts and I, just like Sinatra said.

00:05:43.180 I guess I hang my tears out to dry.

00:05:46.880 Gaze, I never take it, never gonna have to say you're by my side.

00:05:50.220 Just like the queen of soul, I say a little prayer and on out comes a sigh.

00:05:54.140 And I breathe, breathe, breathe.

00:06:03.880 Breathe, breathe, breathe.

00:06:08.760 There's some sort of peace that comes to knowing God and His Son.

00:06:15.500 I look into a face filled with familiarity and let the good air fill my lungs.

00:06:20.500 There's some sort of peace that comes to knowing I get someone to watch over me.

00:06:24.180 He's my Lord, my God, my Savior, my King and my remedy.

00:06:27.720 And I breathe, breathe, breathe.

00:06:34.720 Breathe, breathe, breathe.

00:06:43.720 You're the Lord, my God.

00:07:07.960 I say, love my mama now

00:07:10.060 Feels like I'm down and waiting for me

00:07:12.920 My thoughts are now

00:07:14.000 Just like Sinatra said

00:07:15.900 I guess I had my tea

00:07:17.880 Because I don't know

00:07:19.100 Guess I never took into account

00:07:22.060 I had to see you by my side

00:07:24.040 Just like the queen of soul

00:07:25.700 I'll say a little prayer

00:07:27.000 And I know comes a sigh and I

00:07:29.760 Pray, pray, pray

00:07:35.760 Pray, pray, pray

00:07:44.360 I breathe

00:07:47.280 I breathe

00:08:00.280 Feel like my lungs

00:08:03.880 I breathe

00:08:07.040 The warmth of the sun

00:08:10.620 I breathe

00:08:12.480 Because

00:08:14.320 Oh, there we got you on

00:08:16.600 I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I breathe

00:08:22.480 Where does that come from?

00:08:32.340 It's a conglomeration of a lot of things.

00:08:35.040 I mean, you look like you could be in ABBA.

00:08:37.960 You know what I mean?

00:08:38.720 And then that comes out of you.

00:08:41.420 It's amazing.

00:08:43.180 Well, thanks.

00:08:44.120 Ironically, I don't breathe at all during that song.

00:08:46.520 I find myself gasping.

00:08:47.840 I'm like, but no.

00:08:49.780 I heard that.

00:08:50.500 I don't think I've ever, I've heard people try to sound like Ella Fitzgerald, but I don't think I've ever heard anybody naturally sound like Ella Fitzgerald.

00:08:57.940 There's parts of that.

00:08:59.140 Yeah.

00:08:59.480 That sound positively.

00:09:00.840 How much of a role did she play in your life? 0.99

00:09:02.740 It's extremely central to so much of my musicality now, even if I, what I do isn't strictly jazz, though it's, it's, it is like almost this closeted part of me that I don't get to do as often as I would like.

00:09:18.900 But I went through a really heavy phase in high school of just listening to Ella Fitzgerald and Frank Sinatra, like every day.

00:09:25.640 And that it was kind of just my, yeah, she's my muse.

00:09:31.460 So.

00:09:31.980 Can I, can I ask you?

00:09:33.400 Yeah.

00:09:33.540 I heard that you are doing a tribute to Ella at the Ella Fitzgerald theater.

00:09:40.460 Yes.

00:09:41.520 Yes.

00:09:41.900 What was, what is that like to be asked?

00:09:44.720 I don't know if I fully digested it.

00:09:47.460 I, it's like some girls, they wait and they plan and they've got Pinterest boards for their wedding. 0.98

00:09:54.900 And that is just like the peak of their existence.

00:09:57.480 But this, when Tom, my manager told me about it, I was like, Tom, well, you're being way too nonchalant about this.

00:10:03.080 This is like the peak of, this is, this is the best thing I'm ever going to be asked to do because Ella Fitzgerald's everything to me.

00:10:09.700 So I'm just so excited.

00:10:11.720 And she like, to give some background of my, my ear training and, and it's Ella Fitzgerald largely.

00:10:21.520 But before that it was Gershwin and Debussy and Chopin and all of these classical, not that I played, but I have four older brothers.

00:10:29.900 And, um, the one that's just older than me, he, it was probably the one that I was listening to practice the most.

00:10:39.980 And he would get up at 5am and practice every single, he was just very, very dedicated.

00:10:44.680 And he would practice these passages for these very long and difficult, complicated songs over and over and over again.

00:10:52.380 And it would annoy him so bad, but I knew what came next.

00:10:56.160 So I could sing these like complicated, uh, Rhapsody in Blue note for note, obviously not every note.

00:11:02.960 Cause there's a lot of fingers going on, but, um, I would sing them and he would, he would hate it.

00:11:07.640 Cause I would sing what was coming next, but he just needed to practice slowly.

00:11:11.420 And I realized when I, I was thinking back on this just the other week that when he was doing that, we were all at home together.

00:11:18.740 And I was like, Adam, I think that that is why I am like why I attached myself to jazz and learning scat.

00:11:28.000 Because the, what makes me so excited about the Ella Fitzgerald thing is I'm so obsessed and love her so much that I learned note for note, a seven minute scat solo that she did live in Berlin in 1960 from how high the moon.

00:11:43.660 Like I just, I knew it note for note.

00:11:45.520 And sometimes I'm like, how did I do that?

00:11:47.660 And I'm like, Oh, it's because I've been doing that since I was little doing, you know?

00:11:51.720 And so that's like, I'm very, you know, no pressure on myself to do, you know, seven minutes note for note.

00:11:57.760 But I, I'm like, Oh, that's what you're going to do.

00:12:00.980 That's my time to shine.

00:12:02.520 That's yeah.

00:12:03.920 I'm really excited about it.

00:12:05.120 Cause I'm like, this is, you know, some people work for, I've, you know, I'm only 25, but I'm excited for that one for sure.

00:12:11.360 You sound like you are 50 musically.

00:12:14.140 I really do.

00:12:14.860 Thank you.

00:12:15.740 You know, it's interesting that you say your brothers played classical because I don't remember what song I was listening to that day.

00:12:21.400 And it was on your, I heard it on your, um, uh, your acoustic album, but I, I felt that like there was hints of classical.

00:12:33.260 And I thought, no, she's Nina Simone.

00:12:36.540 Yeah.

00:12:37.480 Um, because the, the, the chords and some of the ways you play the piano, it's, it's just not typical.

00:12:47.040 Oh, well, part of that could be because I quit piano very early on.

00:12:50.960 So I kind of have to fudge the rest of it, but it's, uh, yeah, it definitely, how much classical training do you have vocally?

00:12:59.280 Nine weeks.

00:13:00.040 And I'll tell you the story there.

00:13:01.580 Nine weeks.

00:13:02.600 Yeah.

00:13:02.860 There wasn't much to learn there, but I mean, no, no, no.

00:13:06.760 Not meaning that I, there wasn't much for me to learn, but there wasn't much that I could learn in those nine weeks before.

00:13:11.740 Um, so my vocal cord, I know that's a big story.

00:13:16.200 Okay.

00:13:16.660 Can you just, why only nine weeks?

00:13:18.760 Well, I'll tell you.

00:13:19.340 So, and this kind of goes into me writing music for the first time.

00:13:25.420 So grew up in a very musical family.

00:13:27.620 Obviously my brother, who's the second oldest taught me how to read chords.

00:13:31.800 And I think once I read chords, I kind of quit on piano, but I did take piano growing up.

00:13:36.480 Um, and I could read music, but I've, I've since very, my skills are lacking in that department.

00:13:43.220 So I read chords and I started to find songs that I really loved and, uh, learn them and then play by my own.

00:13:50.600 Yeah.

00:13:51.160 Yeah, definitely play by ear and then just relying on chords.

00:13:54.120 But so I was fortunate enough to get a, uh, scholarship to Northern Arizona university, their vocal program.

00:14:00.820 And I don't know that I quite comprehended how opera that would be.

00:14:06.660 And so it wasn't like my jam necessarily, but I was like, I was in it and I was excited for it, but it meant that I was singing like six hours a day between practices and choirs and ear training classes and diction classes.

00:14:21.300 They all had some element of vocalization and singing and, or just talking or in my extracurriculars.

00:14:27.120 So what ended up happening was nine weeks into that first semester, I hemorrhaged my right vocal cord.

00:14:32.740 Holy cow. 0.89

00:14:33.960 Yes.

00:14:34.440 Wait, did you, did you.

00:14:36.760 Feel it?

00:14:37.640 No.

00:14:38.240 Did you know this is what you were to do yet?

00:14:42.260 No.

00:14:42.680 Okay.

00:14:43.200 So it wasn't like, oh my gosh, my whole life is over.

00:14:45.980 Well, yes, but it's, it was a perfect segue.

00:14:49.560 So at that time in my life, I felt pretty connected spiritually to like what God wants me to do, I will do.

00:14:58.680 And what God's plan for me is I want to, I want to, uh, you know, chase after that.

00:15:04.080 And so I kind of had this, like, if there's a perfect window of opportunity for me to do something that God wants, like, I want to follow that.

00:15:11.620 And so I had that kind of in the back of my head and it was, I mean, we, you could call it by chance that my vocal coach was like, oh, the ENTs, they need mock patients to learn scoping throats.

00:15:22.960 Will you go be a mock patient?

00:15:24.560 And it just so happened that it was like just a few days prior to that, that I had lost my voice and I didn't realize that that was the hemorrhage.

00:15:30.740 And so I go in and they're like, oh, it looks like you've hemorrhaged your vocal cords, but because we're just students, you should go get another opinion, but stop talking, stop singing.

00:15:38.980 You'll probably need to drop out of college.

00:15:40.560 So my immediate reaction was like, oh my gosh, this is horrible.

00:15:43.560 I thought that God was leading me to college.

00:15:45.900 And like, I got this scholarship.

00:15:47.400 I was the first freshman to ever get into the jazz program there.

00:15:50.960 And I felt like I was, you know, crushing it.

00:15:53.580 But then immediately I get this, like, this is, this is my window of opportunity to do something better that I don't yet understand.

00:16:01.780 I just got to have faith.

00:16:02.720 Good for you.

00:16:03.620 So that was like, I was like, okay.

00:16:04.960 Is that where that song comes from?

00:16:06.280 So a year later, I'm living in Sweden, pandemic starts.

00:16:10.260 And I'm like, I felt I had been led there by God.

00:16:13.200 And I was like, this is my thing that I'm going to do.

00:16:14.920 Because you're serving, you're, you're serving God and you're.

00:16:17.100 Yeah.

00:16:17.560 Right.

00:16:17.800 And I, yeah, I was on it.

00:16:18.880 I was doing a church mission at that time.

00:16:20.660 Cause I just kind of changed course.

00:16:22.160 I was like, okay, I won't do college.

00:16:23.700 So I decided to do a church mission and nine weeks into that pandemic starts.

00:16:28.920 And I was like, well, I thought that God wanted me to do this.

00:16:32.220 And I get that same, like, well, this is, this is the window of opportunity to do something better.

00:16:38.780 I, you know, I just got to have faith.

00:16:42.060 And for the first time in my life, I'd never written a song, but I went over the piano.

00:16:45.440 Hang on just a second.

00:16:46.900 I just, I need to say this again.

00:16:48.480 Cause I heard this the other day after listening to you and really listening to you over and

00:16:53.480 over again.

00:16:54.760 And then I find out you had never written a song until five years ago.

00:17:00.200 Yeah.

00:17:01.180 Isn't that crazy?

00:17:02.160 That's nuts.

00:17:03.500 It is nuts.

00:17:04.240 That's nuts.

00:17:04.880 I kind of still don't believe it.

00:17:06.080 Sometimes you like, didn't have a desire.

00:17:07.900 You didn't want to, right?

00:17:09.100 No, I, you know, I don't think that I had anything to write about up until that point.

00:17:15.260 And, you know, when I was in, even now, obviously like Taylor Swift is huge and like Taylor Swift

00:17:19.760 was the writer.

00:17:20.840 And like, I was just like, eh, I don't really have anything to write about.

00:17:24.460 That's going to be like, there was no, I never dated anyone.

00:17:27.980 So I had no love stories to like breakups to write about.

00:17:30.900 And I wasn't probably that deep or meta that like, I wasn't writing anything.

00:17:35.080 And I just kind of thought like it was cheesy and it was every girl's pipe dream to just 1.00

00:17:39.360 like be a writer with their guitar.

00:17:40.480 So I was like, eh, whatever.

00:17:42.560 And, um, but you know, I grew up listening to the greats like Stevie Wonder and Billy Joel.

00:17:48.260 And, and there's a lot of storytelling in that.

00:17:50.340 And my, my dad's a storyteller.

00:17:52.080 And so I felt like.

00:17:53.800 Your dad did a famous animation movie.

00:17:56.300 Swan Princess.

00:17:57.120 Yeah.

00:17:57.380 Swan Princess.

00:17:58.160 That he did.

00:17:58.620 Yeah.

00:17:58.800 He's got all of the, the, you know, the, like, yeah, the, what they use to work on the

00:18:04.660 animation in his, in his room.

00:18:06.640 It's just so cool.

00:18:07.840 Um, and he was the voice of Derek in the third one.

00:18:10.300 Wow.

00:18:11.460 So that's always fun, but he, yeah, my dad's a storyteller.

00:18:15.020 And so I, I feel like I grew up, you know, telling lots of stories, uh, through different

00:18:21.600 facets of my life, but.

00:18:23.760 You're in, so you're in Sweden.

00:18:25.540 I'm in Sweden.

00:18:26.520 And now it's COVID.

00:18:28.020 And now it's COVID.

00:18:28.620 And you're locked down.

00:18:29.520 And I'm like, well, what story do I have to tell?

00:18:31.720 And it, and it really just kind of came from my, I was like, well, we got to have faith.

00:18:36.120 And so I felt like, oh, the way, cause at that point I didn't really know if I was going

00:18:39.400 to be a singer.

00:18:40.140 It still felt a little out of reach and maybe unrealistic.

00:18:43.740 And I also just, you know, wanted at my core to be somebody that was there for other people,

00:18:50.720 someone that people could relate to someone like an angel to other people.

00:18:54.800 Like, how can I help?

00:18:55.760 And I felt like those two things slipped together in writing that first song.

00:19:00.960 And I remember I was like, you know, I've always just kind of had a little like gospel

00:19:05.240 choir on the back of my head, but I was like, gotta have faith.

00:19:08.520 And I walk over the piano and I was like, oh, and I, I just remember just being filled

00:19:15.260 with so much joy at that point.

00:19:16.940 And it just wrote itself.

00:19:18.320 Oh, sorry.

00:19:18.980 I'll tell you, that is when I saw you playing the Hammond B3.

00:19:22.660 Yeah.

00:19:22.860 That's what I felt.

00:19:23.660 Yeah.

00:19:23.880 I felt this pure joy coming out of you.

00:19:26.880 It was amazing.

00:19:27.820 No, for sure.

00:19:28.400 Will you play it?

00:19:28.960 I will.

00:19:30.220 Let's see.

00:19:32.000 So this is a song really kind of to you.

00:19:35.160 Oh, for sure.

00:19:35.880 This was, this was my anthem that I think carried me through a lot of anything that came my way.

00:19:42.620 I was like, well, we gotta have faith.

00:19:44.440 And that just kind of became my thing.

00:19:47.800 And it's, it's applicable to just about anything.

00:19:50.720 So.

00:19:53.880 I look around and begin to count my.

00:19:58.780 It's not the right lyrics.

00:20:00.460 What is it?

00:20:01.860 First one, I should know it.

00:20:02.940 No, it is.

00:20:03.640 I'm reaching.

00:20:04.340 Oh, it's reaching out.

00:20:05.100 Reaching out.

00:20:05.840 Count my blessings.

00:20:06.780 Yeah.

00:20:07.180 I'm reaching out.

00:20:16.240 Yet the sun keeps on setting.

00:20:20.600 Pain in me gold, but bring a door in the blue.

00:20:25.400 As I look to the stars, I can feel the tears start swelling.

00:20:29.900 And I cry, help me Lord, what am I to do?

00:20:35.580 I gotta have faith, faith in the Lord, that the sun will rise tomorrow and I'll be stronger than before.

00:20:47.760 I gotta have faith, faith in the Lord, that these trying times will help me and I can reap my reward.

00:20:59.140 I look around and begin to count my blessings.

00:21:04.100 Oh, one by one, but when I see what God has done, my heart is full and I don't need to keep on guessing.

00:21:14.580 I am a child of God, even after all that's said and done, but I gotta have faith, faith in the Lord, that the sun will rise tomorrow and I'll be stronger than before.

00:21:32.260 I gotta have faith, faith in the Lord, that these trying times will help me and I can reap my reward.

00:21:43.280 Oh, and I know that my Savior's walking with me, by my side, in my heart and in my mind.

00:21:54.960 He's the light of my life that I need to save.

00:22:01.060 And I know that I am because of Him.

00:22:06.880 And I'm gonna have faith, faith in the Lord, that the Lord.

00:22:13.280 That the sun will rise tomorrow and I'll be stronger than before.

00:22:19.460 Faith, faith in the Lord, that these trying times will help me and I can reap my reward.

00:22:29.620 I gotta have, I gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta have faith in the Lord.

00:22:33.840 Faith, faith in the Lord, that the sun will rise tomorrow and I'll be stronger than before.

00:22:40.020 He's the light of my life that I need to serve.

00:22:46.320 But I am and I'm all that I am because of Him.

00:23:02.000 So when you write that and you sing it and you, you, you've got it nailed, you think?

00:23:16.100 Yeah.

00:23:16.340 What, what did you think when you, when you finished?

00:23:21.020 I don't, honestly, I, so on my mission, I just had Facebook and it was like my mom and

00:23:27.240 probably some other fan accounts that she had created that like, I didn't have anybody

00:23:30.880 following me.

00:23:31.440 And I kind of, I had to get over this fear that people were going to judge me for being

00:23:35.600 a girl that was singing.

00:23:36.480 Cause I never wanted to be the type of person that was like, Hey guys, here's a song that

00:23:39.280 I wrote and I really like it.

00:23:40.140 And I hope you like it too.

00:23:40.800 You know what I'm saying?

00:23:41.300 So I just didn't want to be that person that like was self-centered and thought that I was

00:23:46.120 a great singer and that everyone would benefit from listening to me.

00:23:48.820 Yeah.

00:23:49.240 But then I realized like, once I started writing about my spiritual journey and like my imperfections

00:23:54.660 in that journey, I realized, Oh, it's not about me.

00:23:57.020 It's about the collective, you know, bringing people together and the, the experiences that

00:24:02.960 we share.

00:24:04.160 And you and I talked before we started recording about we're all so much alike and we all

00:24:11.140 hide so much because we think we're flawed and nobody else is.

00:24:15.680 We're all flawed and we're all flawed in many times, exactly the same way.

00:24:20.660 I could tell you probably a lot of stories of me embarrassing myself with the few celebrities

00:24:26.820 that I've met and you will see how flawed I truly show up as I met John legend, uh, last

00:24:33.540 December, I was opening for him with Adam Blackstone straight up.

00:24:38.860 Just, I had a runny nose, didn't think it through my body took over and I wiped my nose

00:24:43.860 right before shaking his hand and everybody, we all just like, it was like time stopped.

00:24:47.780 And I was like, Oh, there's snot on my head and like brought attention to it.

00:24:52.520 It was horrible.

00:24:53.100 It was awkward.

00:24:53.700 Everybody hated it.

00:24:54.480 My dad was like, no, you've ruined this.

00:24:56.860 And I was like, well, whatever.

00:24:58.380 And so now at my shows, I'm like, I just got to tell you, I'm not any cooler than you

00:25:03.280 just cause I'm up here.

00:25:04.060 I have snot on my hand when I see John legend.

00:25:06.060 So it's like, I, I don't know.

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00:28:25.400 Some say the bubbles in an arrow truffle piece can take 34 seconds to melt in your mouth.

00:28:30.320 Sometimes the very amount you're stuck at the same red light,

00:28:33.320 rich,

00:28:34.520 creamy,

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00:28:36.840 Feel the arrow bubbles melt.

00:28:38.860 It's mind bubbling.

00:28:39.840 So I see people start in Christian music and I wouldn't put your music into Christian.

00:28:49.720 I don't think you have a box.

00:28:51.520 And I think in some ways Christian music,

00:28:55.260 there's praise and worship music,

00:28:57.140 but you don't fit in that box.

00:29:00.040 And,

00:29:00.600 um,

00:29:01.480 I don't know why it has to be called Christian because,

00:29:04.980 you know,

00:29:06.420 I,

00:29:06.880 I listen to some popular music and it's not,

00:29:09.020 I don't call it pornography.

00:29:10.960 Yeah.

00:29:11.700 But it is,

00:29:12.920 you know,

00:29:13.580 uh,

00:29:14.220 just because the lyrics are,

00:29:15.880 are one way or another.

00:29:17.500 Yeah.

00:29:18.000 I think genres really come down to like identifiable community.

00:29:24.260 But,

00:29:24.740 uh,

00:29:25.260 so like when,

00:29:25.900 when my music gets lobbed into the Christian genre,

00:29:29.580 which technically it is,

00:29:31.200 because we do,

00:29:31.720 we talk about spirituality.

00:29:32.720 We talk about,

00:29:33.460 you know,

00:29:34.440 Christ and a lot of themes in Christianity.

00:29:38.020 Um,

00:29:38.480 but I have a lot of listeners and a lot of,

00:29:40.520 you know,

00:29:40.940 people that have discovered my music that either aren't religious at all.

00:29:44.440 You just did a tour in Europe,

00:29:45.780 if I'm not mistaken.

00:29:46.760 Yeah.

00:29:47.280 Yeah.

00:29:48.160 That's not a big,

00:29:49.160 you know.

00:29:49.300 I know.

00:29:49.720 Well,

00:29:49.960 it's interesting because I thought I grew up thinking that,

00:29:52.900 that Europe was more secular and kind of agnostic atheist,

00:29:57.460 especially Sweden,

00:29:58.840 um,

00:29:59.360 where my,

00:29:59.980 you know,

00:30:00.260 heritage is from.

00:30:01.260 And,

00:30:01.480 and I got there,

00:30:02.720 and I was,

00:30:03.700 because I was connected to,

00:30:06.160 uh,

00:30:07.400 the Christian scene through a friend,

00:30:09.280 I went and did a Christian festival.

00:30:11.060 I was like,

00:30:11.780 Oh,

00:30:11.960 there's a lot of Christians here.

00:30:13.560 But,

00:30:14.060 so I think you find your people,

00:30:15.140 but it's been really cool that,

00:30:16.600 um,

00:30:17.980 me finding my people,

00:30:19.280 there has not been a single like uniform fan,

00:30:22.820 you know,

00:30:23.280 it's just been a lot of different walks of life because,

00:30:26.740 you know,

00:30:27.320 we talked about this a little bit earlier that you can write a song for one

00:30:31.260 purpose or from one piece of inspiration or one moment in your life,

00:30:34.920 but it's up to the listener.

00:30:36.540 It's like art.

00:30:37.320 And I know you collect a lot of art that like,

00:30:38.980 they may have intended to convey this message,

00:30:41.440 but you may feel something deeply that is based on your version of reality and

00:30:45.360 what you've experienced up to that point.

00:30:46.680 And so that's why I'm like,

00:30:48.480 I think I got over that fear of being that girl that was like,

00:30:51.500 Hey guys,

00:30:51.840 here's a song because I was like,

00:30:53.420 this is something that came from me.

00:30:55.680 Do with it what you will.

00:30:56.820 And what you do with it is going to be beautiful.

00:30:59.700 And we're allowed to be together in that.

00:31:01.700 So there's a,

00:31:02.260 you know,

00:31:03.020 um,

00:31:06.060 Michael Buble and I became friends before he was Michael Buble.

00:31:10.020 And,

00:31:10.580 uh,

00:31:11.460 and I remember going to see him in concert early on.

00:31:14.940 It was the first time he was at radio city music hall and he walks out on stage.

00:31:19.520 And before he walks out,

00:31:20.480 I'm talking to people and they're from all over the world,

00:31:22.700 all over the world.

00:31:23.540 Yeah.

00:31:23.820 And they had traveled all over the world and,

00:31:26.040 and seen him several times.

00:31:28.640 And,

00:31:29.160 uh,

00:31:29.560 I had known his music,

00:31:30.980 but I had never seen him live.

00:31:33.640 And you don't have to like standards to like Michael Buble.

00:31:38.880 The key to Michael Buble is joy.

00:31:42.700 He is so joyful the whole time.

00:31:47.000 And I think that cuts across all genres.

00:31:53.320 I think especially about like jazz standards,

00:31:57.160 the way I,

00:31:57.620 the reason I gravitate towards those is because there is a feeling that is almost intangible from those.

00:32:04.700 And it's like the nostalgia,

00:32:06.940 the joy,

00:32:07.760 the,

00:32:07.860 and I know that you're saying Michael Buble radiates that joy and not necessarily the music,

00:32:12.380 but I think it's,

00:32:13.580 he's so happy to be there and to do it.

00:32:18.920 Totally.

00:32:19.160 You know what I mean?

00:32:19.480 He just,

00:32:19.960 it just is like,

00:32:20.880 that is just,

00:32:22.280 he loves it.

00:32:23.320 Yeah.

00:32:23.520 And you can feel that.

00:32:24.880 Yeah.

00:32:25.340 Your music,

00:32:26.160 you still feel that from you,

00:32:27.740 but also the lyrics and everything else.

00:32:30.320 Yeah.

00:32:30.780 Yeah.

00:32:31.120 I think I've,

00:32:31.660 I've received that from several people that despite maybe,

00:32:35.960 you know,

00:32:36.340 especially some international fans that maybe when I'm singing really fast or I don't enunciate very much the,

00:32:43.020 the,

00:32:43.460 the inspiration coming from those jazz,

00:32:46.460 the nostalgia,

00:32:47.200 the,

00:32:47.400 the way they paint pictures with those beautiful,

00:32:49.740 you know,

00:32:50.260 poetry and words.

00:32:51.680 I'm like,

00:32:52.140 well,

00:32:52.240 that's what I want to convey in my music.

00:32:53.620 And I feel like I've done a successful job to this point because of the reactions that I've got.

00:32:57.980 Like I didn't even know this was talking about this or I didn't even know what this was talking about.

00:33:02.120 And I felt this and I'm like,

00:33:03.920 my music speaks for itself,

00:33:05.180 you know?

00:33:05.560 And it's like,

00:33:06.860 that's up to them.

00:33:07.640 When did you hit?

00:33:10.200 When,

00:33:10.340 when,

00:33:10.840 when did it,

00:33:11.460 when did it explode?

00:33:12.320 When did it explode?

00:33:13.360 Cause it exploded with that song,

00:33:14.960 right?

00:33:15.660 No,

00:33:16.120 with breathe.

00:33:17.020 The first one that I sang.

00:33:17.860 Breathe was the first one.

00:33:19.000 I think cause it was so niche.

00:33:20.480 It was,

00:33:21.360 I posted a video two Novembers ago.

00:33:23.880 So November of 23,

00:33:26.100 I was like,

00:33:27.040 have you heard of Christian jazz?

00:33:29.240 And,

00:33:29.640 um,

00:33:30.620 it just kind of exploded.

00:33:32.300 I was not expecting it.

00:33:33.940 And I,

00:33:35.560 yeah,

00:33:35.680 I was just posted on Instagram and I thought,

00:33:37.480 oh,

00:33:37.560 this is fun.

00:33:38.180 People might like it.

00:33:39.520 And they did.

00:33:40.460 And then it,

00:33:41.200 it brought us to,

00:33:44.220 uh,

00:33:44.940 I started getting lots of DMS for the first time.

00:33:47.340 I was like,

00:33:47.620 oh,

00:33:47.860 this is crazy.

00:33:49.660 And,

00:33:50.240 uh,

00:33:50.620 one of those people was Adam Blackstone,

00:33:52.600 who is the musical director.

00:33:54.480 He's been involved with,

00:33:55.500 you know,

00:33:55.620 the Superbowl,

00:33:56.240 Nicki Minaj,

00:33:57.020 Rihanna,

00:33:57.700 Beyonce,

00:33:58.300 Stevie wonder.

00:33:59.080 He works with everybody,

00:34:00.420 uh,

00:34:01.220 just an incredible,

00:34:01.960 and an incredible person to,

00:34:03.380 to know in the industry.

00:34:04.280 But he texted or he DM'd me on Instagram and was like,

00:34:06.840 who are you?

00:34:08.500 Come to New York and sing at blue note jazz club.

00:34:11.660 I didn't.

00:34:12.640 Yes.

00:34:13.120 So I didn't know.

00:34:14.180 I live under a rock somewhat because I kind of live in the 1940s and I don't know anything current.

00:34:19.900 And so I,

00:34:22.060 um,

00:34:22.700 looked up Adam Blackstone and I was like,

00:34:25.020 oh,

00:34:25.220 he's a big deal.

00:34:26.340 And then,

00:34:27.060 um,

00:34:27.940 I like,

00:34:28.720 cause I don't know anything.

00:34:29.840 Then I looked up blue note jazz club and I was like,

00:34:31.960 oh,

00:34:32.600 it's a big deal.

00:34:33.480 You didn't know.

00:34:34.060 No,

00:34:34.540 I don't know anything.

00:34:35.640 Well,

00:34:36.000 that's not true.

00:34:36.500 But like about the industry,

00:34:37.940 I was very,

00:34:39.140 I've been very slow to learn like,

00:34:41.080 oh,

00:34:41.180 this is important.

00:34:41.920 You should know this.

00:34:42.620 Cause I'm just flying by the seat of my pants on a lot of,

00:34:44.480 on a lot of stuff going by the vibes,

00:34:46.840 you know,

00:34:47.100 jazz.

00:34:48.040 But I,

00:34:49.880 um,

00:34:50.360 and I think maybe cause I was a singer,

00:34:51.960 he thought I was based in New York,

00:34:53.440 but he was like,

00:34:53.900 come and sing with me next week and in our next month and jazz at blue note.

00:34:58.340 And I was like,

00:34:59.160 okay.

00:34:59.680 And he was like,

00:35:00.380 you're based in New York.

00:35:01.280 And I was like,

00:35:01.860 yes,

00:35:02.560 I'll be there.

00:35:04.160 Like anywhere that you want me to be.

00:35:06.420 I was like,

00:35:07.160 I'll be there.

00:35:07.980 And we had such a good time.

00:35:09.220 We,

00:35:09.700 uh,

00:35:09.980 he asked me if there was anything I had written and I was like,

00:35:12.700 is this how this goes?

00:35:13.700 Like he was so incredible.

00:35:15.600 So we ended up singing love like you.

00:35:17.720 And then a Christmas song that he had written with,

00:35:20.440 uh,

00:35:20.760 for on his LP that was for Andre day.

00:35:24.760 And,

00:35:25.240 um,

00:35:26.240 we just had a great time.

00:35:27.880 I met queen Latifah.

00:35:28.920 There wasn't as awkward,

00:35:30.280 no snot involved,

00:35:31.060 but,

00:35:32.020 uh,

00:35:32.800 yeah,

00:35:33.420 I just,

00:35:34.060 yeah,

00:35:34.180 I had a great time.

00:35:34.860 It was,

00:35:35.060 the energy was palpable and we,

00:35:37.140 we just grooved.

00:35:38.420 And I was like,

00:35:39.860 uh,

00:35:40.600 do you want to,

00:35:41.800 I don't know the rules to,

00:35:42.840 to a lot of this game?

00:35:43.840 So I was like,

00:35:44.380 do you want to record this?

00:35:45.320 Cause I was like,

00:35:45.760 I don't know.

00:35:46.060 You just ask,

00:35:47.020 maybe it's not,

00:35:48.860 maybe you shouldn't ask people that are that high up if they can do you that favor.

00:35:53.500 But I was like,

00:35:55.040 do you want to produce this?

00:35:56.020 And he was like,

00:35:57.060 yeah,

00:35:57.720 that would be awesome.

00:35:58.840 My studio's in Philly.

00:36:00.040 And I was like,

00:36:00.700 great.

00:36:01.180 I can live in Philly.

00:36:02.960 I'm like,

00:36:03.400 I can not be there.

00:36:04.580 I'm located in Philly.

00:36:05.620 So,

00:36:06.500 and so,

00:36:06.940 yeah,

00:36:07.080 he ended up producing that song and it was just like,

00:36:09.780 I think that was kind of my introduction into,

00:36:12.160 um,

00:36:13.060 kind of his sphere.

00:36:14.680 Cause he really took me into,

00:36:16.840 he really took me under his wing and he's been a really good contact cause he's just so kind and he just wants people to succeed.

00:36:22.620 So I've just,

00:36:23.640 I feel like,

00:36:24.480 oh yeah,

00:36:25.500 this isn't,

00:36:26.280 this isn't hard.

00:36:26.920 This isn't scary.

00:36:27.600 It's just about having fun.

00:36:29.600 So,

00:36:30.240 yeah.

00:36:31.160 So what came,

00:36:32.640 what came next?

00:36:33.360 So when I moved back to the States after Sweden,

00:36:36.580 I started,

00:36:37.540 I knew that I wanted to record the music I had been writing.

00:36:41.500 And I thought it's still kind of a big dream.

00:36:43.860 What had you had written?

00:36:45.200 I,

00:36:45.420 so I had written just about every,

00:36:49.140 I've written probably about 26 Christian songs and I'll end up releasing 24 ish.

00:36:56.380 Um,

00:36:56.820 I've got two albums worth and I wrote the majority of those minus maybe three or four.

00:37:01.940 It from March of 2020 until like August of 21 and that year and a half.

00:37:10.120 I just like,

00:37:10.880 that was how I spent my time.

00:37:12.820 And so I came home and like September ish,

00:37:16.820 I,

00:37:17.080 I picked one song and that was hear him.

00:37:19.540 I did a Kickstarter.

00:37:20.740 People donated.

00:37:21.820 I was able to go to Nashville and record three more songs,

00:37:25.080 met some great people.

00:37:25.940 And then,

00:37:27.020 uh,

00:37:27.900 got picked up by a label,

00:37:29.020 then was able to do the rest of.

00:37:32.020 Play hear him and tell me,

00:37:33.300 tell me a story.

00:37:34.880 The serious,

00:37:35.840 the story of hear him was truly just that.

00:37:39.740 Uh,

00:37:40.180 I,

00:37:42.640 I don't know.

00:37:44.900 I think

00:37:45.300 we talk about,

00:37:49.780 uh,

00:37:50.120 like I grew up,

00:37:50.940 the culture of speaking about the spirit was still small voice.

00:37:55.180 And,

00:37:55.660 uh,

00:37:56.080 you know,

00:37:56.320 it was a phrase,

00:37:56.920 hear him.

00:37:58.020 The voice is soft and low.

00:37:59.300 That was kind of like ruminating in my mind.

00:38:01.340 Just,

00:38:02.740 it's not always loud.

00:38:04.140 It's not always obvious.

00:38:05.020 And that was what I felt was there right after I was walking out of the hospital.

00:38:09.380 I felt like it was a,

00:38:10.460 it was a small,

00:38:11.480 just like,

00:38:12.300 kind of like,

00:38:12.820 just got to have faith.

00:38:13.740 You know,

00:38:14.000 it's just kind of like in the back of my head.

00:38:15.200 And I was like,

00:38:15.580 yeah,

00:38:15.700 you're so right.

00:38:17.200 And so that's why people miss it.

00:38:19.880 Yeah,

00:38:20.260 maybe they miss it.

00:38:21.080 Cause they think it's just them.

00:38:22.540 It's going to be so obvious.

00:38:23.860 Yeah.

00:38:24.060 But I think too,

00:38:25.000 a lot of things is like,

00:38:26.040 it's,

00:38:26.440 it's up to you.

00:38:27.260 My beliefs now,

00:38:28.200 as I've just kind of grown and changed and reconstructed,

00:38:32.280 deconstructed all of the above,

00:38:33.640 I think too,

00:38:35.140 that the spirit and how you see God and Jesus or something greater is up to you.

00:38:40.680 You,

00:38:41.100 you choose to open your eyes to answers,

00:38:43.520 to blessings,

00:38:44.360 to goodness.

00:38:45.440 And so that's kind of,

00:38:48.060 you know,

00:38:48.400 it's like you will hear what you're looking for.

00:38:52.280 And if you're only looking for something to be a grand gesture and for God to just rain down fire and these big miracles,

00:38:58.160 it's like,

00:38:58.660 well,

00:38:58.820 you might,

00:38:59.460 you might be missing all these,

00:39:00.660 these small open doors,

00:39:02.780 just because the one that you want is closed.

00:39:05.340 So that was kind of the thought behind this one.

00:39:07.820 Out of the water,

00:39:12.740 I fill up my lungs,

00:39:16.140 and I say to the Father,

00:39:19.640 what have I done

00:39:22.160 to deserve all this lowing?

00:39:25.600 I can't understand,

00:39:27.980 but I know that He heals me cause I get this answer.

00:39:35.000 Hear Him,

00:39:37.540 though the voice may be soft and low.

00:39:41.300 Hear Him and you'll know.

00:39:46.300 Hear Him strive with all your heart and soul.

00:39:53.320 Hear Him out of the darkness and into the light.

00:40:05.020 This weight on my shoulders begins to take flight.

00:40:10.140 I can feel my heart growing.

00:40:12.140 I can feel my heart growing.

00:40:12.760 Yes,

00:40:13.960 I feel it inside.

00:40:15.880 And I know that He'll carry me through the darkest nights.

00:40:22.880 Hear Him,

00:40:25.560 though the voice may be soft and low.

00:40:28.560 Hear Him and you'll know.

00:40:32.960 Hear Him start with all your heart and soul.

00:40:39.960 Hear Him and you'll know.

00:40:44.960 Oh,

00:40:45.960 I don't know what lies before me,

00:40:53.340 but all I know is I trust in the Lord completely,

00:40:59.740 completely.

00:41:04.740 Hear Him,

00:41:06.740 though the voice may be soft and low.

00:41:09.740 Hear Him and you'll know.

00:41:15.740 Hear Him strive with all your heart and soul.

00:41:20.740 Hear Him and you'll know.

00:41:25.740 Hear Him start with all your mind and mind and soul.

00:41:32.740 Hear Him and you'll know.

00:41:36.740 Hear Him and you'll know.

00:41:41.740 That was the song I heard and I thought,

00:41:47.740 She's Adele.

00:41:48.740 She's Adele.

00:41:49.740 Oh,

00:41:50.740 that's such a high compliment.

00:41:52.740 I,

00:41:53.740 thank you.

00:41:54.740 You're so gracious with your compliments.

00:41:55.740 No,

00:41:56.740 I'm,

00:41:57.740 I don't say what I don't believe.

00:41:58.740 It's remarkable.

00:41:59.740 Well, thank you.

00:42:00.740 You know,

00:42:01.740 I'm listening to,

00:42:02.740 and this may be a really odd question that maybe nobody can relate to.

00:42:05.740 You have,

00:42:07.740 and I don't even know if this is the right language,

00:42:10.740 tonality.

00:42:11.740 You,

00:42:12.740 the way you form your words,

00:42:15.740 the way you use your,

00:42:17.740 your mouth.

00:42:18.740 It's,

00:42:19.740 did you just learn that from listening to people?

00:42:22.740 Cause it's,

00:42:23.740 it's,

00:42:24.740 it's almost as if,

00:42:25.740 and maybe it comes from scat.

00:42:28.740 Maybe I've heard you do your,

00:42:31.740 you know,

00:42:32.740 mouth trumpet.

00:42:33.740 Yeah.

00:42:34.740 And you absolutely sound like a trumpet,

00:42:35.740 but there are times where the way you form your words in your mouth,

00:42:41.740 it sounds almost like different instruments.

00:42:43.740 And it just,

00:42:44.740 it gives you this unique sound.

00:42:46.740 Yeah.

00:42:47.740 I think I've spent a lot of my high school and listening to jazz imitating

00:42:56.740 and trying to find,

00:42:57.740 I don't know that I was ever trying to like consciously find what does eminiscence

00:43:02.740 sound like,

00:43:03.740 because I think I am just a conglomeration of the things that I've grown,

00:43:06.740 grown up on,

00:43:07.740 but I've learned to kind of imitate different sounds.

00:43:11.740 And I truly have this thing that like,

00:43:13.740 if a truck goes by and honks its horn,

00:43:15.740 I will subconsciously like,

00:43:17.740 if it's like,

00:43:18.740 I'll be like,

00:43:19.740 like,

00:43:20.740 I just have to,

00:43:21.740 I have to like,

00:43:22.740 yeah.

00:43:23.740 Or if like someone will like,

00:43:24.740 I'll hear that.

00:43:25.740 I go,

00:43:26.740 I have to like get the right note.

00:43:27.740 I have to like,

00:43:28.740 you know,

00:43:29.740 I have to,

00:43:30.740 I don't know.

00:43:31.740 Well,

00:43:32.740 not,

00:43:33.740 not that,

00:43:34.740 but yeah,

00:43:35.740 but it's just like an,

00:43:36.740 I,

00:43:37.740 I don't even know.

00:43:38.740 I just find myself and it gets me into trouble because sometimes if somebody,

00:43:40.740 one time I was in,

00:43:41.740 when high school history class and my teacher said the word rhinoceros weird,

00:43:45.740 and I didn't mean to,

00:43:46.740 but I was like rhinoceros and it was dead quiet.

00:43:49.740 And I was like,

00:43:50.740 I am so sorry.

00:43:51.740 I was like,

00:43:52.740 I cannot believe I just did that,

00:43:53.740 but it was subconscious.

00:43:54.740 I think I just spend a lot of my life repeating and trying to figure out,

00:43:57.740 Oh,

00:43:58.740 can I do that?

00:43:59.740 You know?

00:44:00.740 And so,

00:44:01.740 did you,

00:44:02.740 did you listen to the instruments or did you listen to people?

00:44:05.740 Can you do a little mouth trumpet?

00:44:07.740 Yeah.

00:44:08.740 This was something I discovered in third grade.

00:44:09.740 I was like,

00:44:10.740 I'm not even kidding.

00:44:11.740 It was just like me probably just trying to be more annoying,

00:44:13.740 but,

00:44:14.740 um,

00:44:15.740 let's see with lip gloss.

00:44:16.740 It's just a thing.

00:44:40.740 It's a party trick.

00:44:41.740 It's just a party trick.

00:44:42.740 Yeah.

00:44:43.740 But that one's fun,

00:44:44.740 for sure to,

00:44:45.740 but yeah,

00:44:46.740 I've found myself kind of just repeating.

00:44:48.740 And I feel like I'm conscious of the emotion that it evokes.

00:44:52.740 When I hear something like,

00:44:54.740 uh,

00:44:55.740 we were talking about Samara joy earlier and just some of the greats in jazz

00:44:58.740 when they come into a song.

00:45:00.740 That's like,

00:45:01.740 you just hear like,

00:45:03.740 for example,

00:45:04.740 uh,

00:45:05.740 at last by Etta James,

00:45:06.740 that,

00:45:07.740 that first,

00:45:08.740 I wanna like,

00:45:10.740 you hear that.

00:45:11.740 Ah,

00:45:12.740 and it's kind of nasally and like,

00:45:13.740 you know,

00:45:14.740 what's coming.

00:45:15.740 And it just evokes this,

00:45:16.740 like,

00:45:17.740 ah,

00:45:18.740 want a Sunday to kind of love.

00:45:20.740 And it just feels like falling in love.

00:45:22.740 And so for me,

00:45:23.740 I've been like,

00:45:24.740 okay,

00:45:25.740 well,

00:45:26.740 if I'm going to sing a note,

00:45:27.740 then I'm going to,

00:45:28.740 ah,

00:45:29.740 and that's for me reminiscent of Etta and anyone else.

00:45:33.740 Yeah.

00:45:34.740 I think if I were to take my best guess at what I'm doing,

00:45:37.740 you're,

00:45:38.740 you wrote,

00:45:39.740 I think,

00:45:40.740 uh,

00:45:41.740 I,

00:45:42.740 um,

00:45:43.740 one of my favorite love songs is,

00:45:45.740 um,

00:45:46.740 Till That Day.

00:45:47.740 No,

00:45:48.740 Ray,

00:45:49.740 Ray Charles.

00:45:50.740 Um,

00:45:51.740 I can't remember the name of it now,

00:45:52.740 but it,

00:45:53.740 you know,

00:45:54.740 I love you in a place where there is no space or time.

00:45:55.740 Mm.

00:45:56.740 And.

00:45:57.740 It's stuff like that.

00:45:58.740 I don't write like that anymore.

00:45:59.740 I know.

00:46:00.740 Honestly,

00:46:01.740 no shade to Taylor Swift,

00:46:02.740 but I don't hear that in her songs.

00:46:03.740 So you do,

00:46:04.740 you know,

00:46:05.740 the,

00:46:06.740 uh,

00:46:07.740 what is the love song that I wrote it down here?

00:46:10.740 Till That Day.

00:46:11.740 I love that song.

00:46:13.740 That is so kind of you.

00:46:14.740 Because I love the lyrics in it.

00:46:16.740 It's like,

00:46:17.740 I love you in a place where there's no space and time.

00:46:19.740 Yeah.

00:46:20.740 Yeah.

00:46:21.740 I don't even know.

00:46:22.740 Well,

00:46:23.740 I know where I was in that moment where I had written that.

00:46:25.740 I was so hurt.

00:46:26.740 And I think I,

00:46:27.740 I think in that moment I had,

00:46:29.740 I would say that I,

00:46:30.740 I was in love in that.

00:46:31.740 Like I,

00:46:32.740 I had fallen in love with somebody and it was not like reciprocated in the way

00:46:39.740 maybe that my expectations had set up for myself.

00:46:42.740 But,

00:46:43.740 and it was,

00:46:44.740 you know,

00:46:45.740 all I had ever listened to was jazz and I had like fallen in love with this

00:46:49.740 guy and I,

00:46:50.740 and it got my heart broken and I was like,

00:46:53.740 well,

00:46:54.740 I'm going to write exactly how that feels.

00:46:55.740 Exactly how that feels.

00:46:56.740 And so it's just like a very nostalgic.

00:46:59.740 Um,

00:47:00.740 like I wanted to paint the picture of all the things that you feel when you're,

00:47:04.740 when you're in,

00:47:05.740 in love.

00:47:06.740 And.

00:47:07.740 Who produced this on the album?

00:47:08.740 Uh,

00:47:09.740 so I did this in Nashville with my producer,

00:47:11.740 Seth Mosley.

00:47:12.740 He.

00:47:13.740 It's really well produced.

00:47:14.740 It won't sound the same doing it.

00:47:16.740 No,

00:47:17.740 it won't.

00:47:18.740 Unfortunately.

00:47:19.740 The color is the secret ingredient.

00:47:20.740 Oh,

00:47:21.740 it's really amazing.

00:47:22.740 It,

00:47:23.740 but the lyrics and the music are enough.

00:47:25.740 Play,

00:47:26.740 please.

00:47:27.740 I,

00:47:28.740 it's been a minute since I've,

00:47:30.740 since I've reminisced about this song.

00:47:32.740 So I'll have to just,

00:47:34.740 um,

00:47:35.740 look it up.

00:47:36.740 I have to look it up because I.

00:47:37.740 So do you think there's ever going to come a time where you're sick of the songs that you.

00:47:42.740 Yes.

00:47:43.740 I already am.

00:47:44.740 I already am.

00:47:45.740 I know that's horrible to say,

00:47:46.740 but I've,

00:47:47.740 I've got to be honest.

00:47:48.740 I,

00:47:49.740 I sing songs,

00:47:50.740 but this is the beauty of showing it to new people is they get to reintroduce it to you.

00:47:54.740 I,

00:47:55.740 I did an interview just,

00:47:57.740 just like this with Tony Bennett and I know.

00:48:00.740 And,

00:48:01.740 uh,

00:48:02.740 and it's the last few minutes and he hasn't done.

00:48:06.740 I left my heart and I said,

00:48:08.740 I hate to ask you this because,

00:48:10.740 you know,

00:48:11.740 you must,

00:48:12.740 maybe you're sick of it,

00:48:13.740 but I can't.

00:48:14.740 And he jumped ugly on me real quick.

00:48:17.740 He was like,

00:48:18.740 why would I be sick of that song?

00:48:20.740 And I'm like,

00:48:21.740 no,

00:48:22.740 I didn't mean it.

00:48:23.740 It was unbelievable.

00:48:24.740 Oh,

00:48:25.740 I'm sure.

00:48:26.740 But now I think,

00:48:27.740 and it's just maybe because I,

00:48:29.740 I've kind of gotten into the rhythm of doing them,

00:48:31.740 but that's why I like doing stuff live is because,

00:48:33.740 especially with jazz or jazzy elements to things is because they never really sound the same.

00:48:38.740 Yeah.

00:48:39.740 Um,

00:48:40.740 but yeah,

00:48:41.740 this,

00:48:42.740 this one goes kind of high.

00:48:43.740 So we will do our best here.

00:48:46.740 Everybody's talking about the magic it is to be loved,

00:48:59.740 but I don't know it.

00:49:02.740 No,

00:49:03.740 I don't know it.

00:49:04.740 Everybody's showing off their life with a lens rose, call it a round, but I won't show it.

00:49:17.740 No,

00:49:18.740 I won't show it.

00:49:21.740 Till the day you looked at me with such delirious love in your eyes.

00:49:28.740 Till you talk to me like it's the last day,

00:49:33.740 last day of our lives.

00:49:36.740 Till you walk with me forever like we've been hypnotized.

00:49:43.740 To be the one that I love will never make me wanna say goodbye.

00:49:51.740 Everybody's running round with their fingers laced and adorned,

00:49:56.740 But I don't buy it.

00:49:57.740 But I don't buy it.

00:49:59.740 No,

00:50:00.740 I don't buy it.

00:50:03.740 And every smile I've ever seen seems to be set free by this falling love.

00:50:10.740 But I wouldn't show it.

00:50:13.740 No,

00:50:14.740 I wouldn't show it.

00:50:18.740 Till the day you looked at me with such delirious love in your eyes.

00:50:25.740 Till you walked with me like it's the last day, last day of our lives.

00:50:32.740 Till you walk with me forever like we've been hypnotized.

00:50:39.740 To be the one that love will never make me wanna say goodbye.

00:50:46.740 Oh,

00:50:47.740 I feel myself falling into a picture perfect life.

00:50:53.740 I feel I've waited twice as long just to get the double prize.

00:51:01.740 I haven't heard of delight till I've been deeply traumatized.

00:51:07.740 So don't love me in the ways that I despise.

00:51:14.740 Till the day you looked at me with such delirious love in your eyes.

00:51:21.740 Till you talk to me forever like we've been hypnotized.

00:51:27.740 Till you walk with me forever like we've been hypnotized.

00:51:34.740 To be the one that love will never make me wanna say goodbye.

00:51:40.740 To be the one that love will never make me wanna say goodbye.

00:51:46.740 What's it like to be able to move people emotionally like that?

00:52:02.740 I don't know.

00:52:03.740 I don't know that I consciously have an expectation of the emotion that's to be moved.

00:52:09.740 But, or even if I, like sometimes when I'm singing.

00:52:12.740 But you must feel it.

00:52:13.740 Like I am so emotional after that.

00:52:15.740 Oh, well thanks.

00:52:16.740 And you must feel that.

00:52:18.740 It must be a really, could be a very dangerous thing.

00:52:21.740 Yeah.

00:52:22.740 Or let it go to your ego.

00:52:23.740 But it must be a really cool thing to be able to sing.

00:52:29.740 Music is different than the spoken word or painting or anything else.

00:52:33.740 Yeah.

00:52:34.740 It's just different.

00:52:35.740 It speaks right directly to the soul.

00:52:36.740 Yeah.

00:52:37.740 There's a couple of things I would say to that.

00:52:39.740 I, I don't know, this isn't me feigning humility, but I truly don't know that I, um, have any expectation of like affecting people's lives.

00:52:53.740 But in retrospect, when I get to here, cause you like a lot of, a lot of life, like I don't do it to, and I know that's not what you're saying, but like, I don't do it to go out there and be like, I'm going to go bless lives right now and like go to a concert, you know?

00:53:06.740 But I just like, I do it cause, um, it's, it's blessed mine and I want to share that.

00:53:12.740 Yeah.

00:53:13.740 And one of the things that's cool about this position, you know, I run into people sometimes, uh, out and about and they, you know, they'll stop me and just tell me like really quick, oh, you know, I've loved this or this, or I've, I found this song when this and this happened.

00:53:29.740 It's very, very kind of them to like go deep and share something with me, but a lot of people don't really get to see the effect of what they do and how that ripples out.

00:53:38.740 But in moments like that, I'm like, oh my gosh, I can't believe I get to, I get to see pretty immediately what that, what that was to somebody.

00:53:47.740 And that, I think, um, you never know what it's going to be.

00:53:53.240 And so I don't ever want to try, like with my writing music, I've never thought I want to make somebody feel loved.

00:54:00.860 So I'm going to write a song that is like that.

00:54:04.100 It purely is inspiration.

00:54:05.000 That would be AI.

00:54:05.740 AI.

00:54:06.740 Well, yeah, it's just like, it's just not me, you know, as I, and some people, this is why, as I've gotten more and more into the industry, people are like, oh, do you want to have writing sessions?

00:54:15.740 Do you want to write with me?

00:54:16.580 And I'm like, no, I don't like, I, I don't know how to do that.

00:54:19.820 I don't know how to go off of not inspiration.

00:54:22.700 Um, and so.

00:54:23.900 That's why, but that's why you're different.

00:54:25.440 That's why you're authentic.

00:54:26.340 Possibly.

00:54:26.740 That's why I think you're different.

00:54:29.400 I, yeah, go ahead.

00:54:30.460 I, I, I was watching one of your, uh, Instagram posts and you had, I think you had just gotten off stage and you were talking about a dress.

00:54:42.180 Oh yeah.

00:54:43.340 You know what I'm talking about?

00:54:44.320 I know what you're talking about.

00:54:46.140 Yes.

00:54:46.560 Tell a story.

00:54:47.140 So this goes back, um, probably longer than just the last five years, but I've always been somewhat, I would say like, I've been confident.

00:55:02.060 I've been confident to show up places.

00:55:05.120 And I don't know that I struggle so much with the, like, I don't feel like I should be here because I'm just like, well, it's not even just me.

00:55:12.120 Like I have to give credit to a higher power.

00:55:13.980 So I feel like I'm like, it's me and, you know, um, so, but I, uh, like, and trigger warning to anyone that struggles with eating disorders or body dysmorphia.

00:55:27.180 But I struggled deeply, uh, the beginning of 2020, I had this really weird bout of anxiety and it was so bad that it made me nauseous and I would throw up like seven times a day.

00:55:40.780 And then it just kind of stumbled into a, an eating disorder.

00:55:44.920 And, um, and I lost a lot of weight really quickly and it was, and I've all, and I'd always struggled with my weight.

00:55:51.420 Cause we always kind of joke in third grade, I started eating, uh, school lunches that I would eat people's mac and cheese.

00:55:58.800 And then I just got fat and I cursed the school lunches, but I, man, that mac and cheese was just too good.

00:56:05.440 And, uh, and you were allowed to eat people's food in elementary school.

00:56:09.760 Like you had to eat your own, but I, every time that aid turned its back, I shoving some mac and cheese in my mouth, but I, anyway, so I always like struggled with my weight, feeling like I was way bigger than the other people in my grade.

00:56:21.280 And just like, really like, man, their cardigan is an XS and mine isn't a large, like I just, it was, you know, also just like girly things, just growing up and being 13 and whatever.

00:56:30.980 But, um, and I thought I had a good handle on it, but going then, uh, once that like eating disorder and two on a mission, people feed you all the time.

00:56:41.840 And I had like weird things that I didn't know if I was allergic to with dairy or whatever.

00:56:47.740 So I just like would eat and then throw up and eat and throw up.

00:56:50.500 And it was horrible.

00:56:51.920 I fixed it.

00:56:53.320 Uh, and got, I was able to overcome that part of, um, just struggling with food and identity.

00:57:01.960 But once I fixed that and stopped throwing up, then I gained a bunch of weight.

00:57:05.740 And then I, like the body dysmorphia was just so, it hit me like a truck and I just was like, it was so strange because I really felt like the most important thing you could do was learn how to love yourself.

00:57:17.440 And I didn't understand why I didn't even think that I deserve to look in the mirror.

00:57:20.780 And it was stuff like that, that it was extreme where I was like, I, people's lives are worse because they have to look at me.

00:57:27.300 And it was like, no one thinks that it's just like your brain cooks up the worst, you know?

00:57:33.740 Yeah. And it knows exactly who you are and how to get you.

00:57:38.880 Yeah. It's amazing.

00:57:40.100 And I, you know, this is probably stuff too, that I will, I know we'll continue to work on, but it's like, I sometimes then couldn't tell, well, am I lying to myself?

00:57:51.260 Like, do I actually think that I'm pretty, but I'm making myself feel bad?

00:57:56.420 Am I manipulating myself?

00:57:57.400 And if people know, like, there's just a lot of layers there, but I was like, well, maybe I deserve to feel bad because then when I get better, I'll have felt the most worse that I could.

00:58:10.820 So then I'll feel the most on top.

00:58:12.380 It was so complicated.

00:58:13.660 Yeah.

00:58:14.020 Yeah. And I didn't know how to explain that to anybody. Cause I didn't want to just be like, oh, I'm just feeling down in the dumps and I hate myself. Like, it's just like, ugh, whatever. Get over it. Everyone hates themselves. Kind of.

00:58:23.160 You sound, no, no offense. I'm a recovering alcoholic. That sounds like an alcoholism kind of thing.

00:58:30.720 Cause it's, it, you're, you're constantly playing all these different things out in your mind.

00:58:36.500 Yeah. And when you want to reach out for help, it's just complicated there too, because you don't want to feel sorry for yourself, but you don't know how much to ask for.

00:58:43.960 Anyway, what I, um, uh, what I know we're talking about here is the, how I got over it was, uh, it was like in the thick of the height of just me not loving myself for who I was.

00:58:58.380 And I didn't know how to fix it. And I went to the gym one day, probably working out against the mirror so that I didn't have, didn't have to look at myself.

00:59:06.460 And I ran into a friend's from high school's mom and she, uh, was like, oh, it's so good to see you. I teach these cognitive therapy or these cognitive thinking classes at night.

00:59:17.740 You should, we're doing one tonight. You should come. And I was like, okay, like I didn't have anything better to do.

00:59:23.420 What's cognitive thinking? Um, just like it, her class was mainly focusing on like, your thoughts are powerful. It's just focusing on your thoughts and like you, I mean, cognitive thinking is just thinking, you know, just focused on your, the power of your thoughts.

00:59:42.380 Um, I've said this a million times. And so anybody who's listened to me before, and I've said this, I apologize, but my father used to say the two most powerful words in any language is I am God says, who, who, who, who sent me? I am that I am.

01:00:01.020 And he said, what you follow those two words with that blank. Yeah. That will create you. It is the creative force of God. Be careful.

01:00:13.960 I agree wholeheartedly. And I will, I'm remember that because at the end of the story, I'm going to tell you my agreement story that ties it in with what you just said.

01:00:25.500 Okay. This is my unmedicated ADHD that has to physically put a pin on it. Um, but I went to that class and she starts thinking, talking about how our thoughts make us feel a certain way. And when we feel a certain way, we act a certain way.

01:00:38.880 And when we act a certain way, we define ourselves a certain way. And when we define ourselves as something, we think a certain way. And it's just this cycle that keeps going. And I was like, okay, this isn't so revolutionary, but she was like, so right in your, in your notebook, what's a thought that you have good or bad that makes you feel a certain way.

01:00:56.820 And so right away I go, I'm ugly. And, and I'm like, it makes me feel ugly. And I may, and she's like, then it's going to make you act like you're ugly. Like you turn away from the mirror. You don't let people talk to you. You don't go out. And then you're going to define yourself as that. And you're just going to keep on thinking that. And I was like, yeah.

01:01:12.920 And so she goes, this is what it changed. Truly. It was from, I know it's not as easy for some people, but for me, it was nine day. It was a switch. She goes, Emma thoughts are just thoughts. They're never true unless they're a fact. Facts are true, but thoughts they're made up. They are, they are our thoughts that we make up. And you are the one that decides what your truth is.

01:01:37.540 And it, I was like, well, no, that's not true because I could look at a tree and say, that's a tree. And that's a true thought. And she goes, no, that's a fact. You're looking at a tree and that's a fact. Right. And I kind of, you know, I got vulnerable, vulnerable a little bit in that class. And I just told everybody what I was struggling with. Cause again, I've for, you know, my struggles, I've also been very authentic. And I was, I knew like, this is not a, this is not something that I created. I know other people struggle with this. So I thought, okay, well, I'll just talk about it.

01:02:06.680 And she goes, all right, well, we're going to, we're going to talk about it. So your thought is that you're ugly and you feel this way. She goes, but what if you thought a different thought? Like, what if you thought you were the most beautiful person in the world? How would you feel? And I was like, well, I'd probably feel pretty great. And she was like, okay. And how would you act? I was like, I'd probably go out more. I'd probably talk to people. I'd probably smile more. And she's like, and you would identify yourself as a beautiful person. 0.92

01:02:32.800 She goes, so if you're making up that you're ugly and you're making up that you're beautiful, choose the one that moves you forward, then hinders you. And I was like, this is like, this is not a, this is the best gym encounter of all time.

01:02:45.660 I know I was seriously spiritually swole after that. I was like, what? And I just was like, it almost felt illegal. How easy that was. I was like, you're that's it. And she was like, that's it.

01:02:58.420 Change your thinking, change your life. We almost don't give ourselves permission to, to let it. Cause we were, I think so conscious of, like I was in the beginning of not wanting to come off as self important. I didn't want to be like, I'm beautiful. I'm the greatest. I'm wonderful. But it's like, there's that, there's a fine line between being prideful and, and you're having your ego be through the roof and just believing in yourself and telling yourself, I can do hard things. I can, I'm going to get over this and this is going to be wonderful.

01:03:26.340 The sun is going to come up tomorrow. I'll be stronger than before. And I realized I've been writing all this stuff the whole time. I just didn't apply it to myself. And somebody said, I saw this one time that if, if someone were to ask you to list all of the things that you love, how long would it take until you said yourself? And I was like, oh my gosh, it would probably take a minute.

01:03:46.120 I was thinking it would take a day.

01:03:47.580 Yeah. I'm well, I don't know. I would probably start with cheese, get towards other foods. I would, I would prioritize food, but yeah, no, I, and so to unpin the thought that I had pinned earlier was I wanted to test something out. Cause people, you know, they've done like, if you've ever heard those, uh, like they put two apples and one in each room and one they speak mean to, and one they encourage, it's kind of feel silly.

01:04:15.760 But like the theory was that the one that you spoke bad to would shrivel up and die quicker than the other one. And just like talking about how words are powerful. And so I was like, okay, I'm going to go on these walks or these runs.

01:04:28.220 And I did cross country in high school. And so my breed, like I, I kind of had a specific breathing that with my legs, I would go in, in, out, out. And like, that was kind of my rhythm. And when I was like, okay, I'm going to run and I'm going to go, I am on the inhale and then just say something. And then I'm going to do that for 10 minutes straight. It won. It was to help me focus. And two, I was like, what's going to happen? Am I going to bloom? Am I going to blossom? And it was crazy.

01:04:51.700 You lost your life, didn't it?

01:04:52.540 Yeah. I, I've, I'm still in the middle of the experiment, but I, I truly like, it's, it is something wonderful to just go through and, um, just go, you're running, running around town and you can say the same thing over and over. Just, I am wonderful. I am beautiful. I am lovely. I'm a kind person. I, you know, and you just, and you keep on telling yourself and eventually you start to feel it.

01:05:16.560 Cause we tell ourself the opposite. It is human nature to tell yourself, Oh, that was so stupid. I'm so stupid. I made this, you know, always that tape is running problem solving. We think that because our brain attaches to the negativity. So, cause it's a survival mechanism. It's like, if I learn the negative thing, then I won't do that again. So a lot of times we provide negativity for ourselves because our brain latches onto it because it thinks we're problem solving. It thinks we're in survival mode. And it's like, but if you tell yourself you're ugly, then you'll avoid all of these things. 1.00

01:05:46.020 But it's like, whatever. If I tell myself I'm beautiful, then I'll live a great life. And like, I, it, it seems, you know, like you don't want to just tell a depressed person. We'll just be happy. But for me, it was that easy to just be like, well, just think nice thoughts. And I was like, Oh my gosh, it was that easy all along. And I actually have a song that I wrote that is totally about this.

01:06:09.840 And I didn't even realize. Am I worthy? No, it's, it's, well, there's that actually. A lot of my songs have the same theme, but they're just set in different ways. They're different hues. But, um, this is a new song off the new album.

01:06:21.060 Oh, and, uh, it's, it was just, I, you know, I was thinking about that. I'm probably always subconsciously thinking about this, that, um, you know, God created all of these beautiful things. We look at the mountains. We, I mean, you know, here in Utah or in Idaho, these mountains, the beautiful landscape.

01:06:39.300 You're like, this is lovely. This is beautiful. Like, but then that same notion of, but how long does it take before we look at ourselves and go, love it. I love it. It's beautiful.

01:06:49.360 So that was what this song, this song is about. And, um, well, there's not much more to say, but it's called loving.

01:06:56.880 Look at the moon and the stars and the sun, each shining so bright. Yeah. That's how God made them. Now look at yourself shining and tell me.

01:07:09.300 Why it's not too long.

01:07:25.660 Loving should come easy. But like most things, it's easier said than done. But like most things, you get into a rhythm.

01:07:34.800 So let's be kind and let's smile at ourselves

01:07:38.140 We know we aren't perfect, that'll take a while

01:07:41.300 So let's start loving, loving, loving, loving

01:07:45.200 Everything I gave us, let's be loving

01:07:47.520 Loving, loving, loving, loving

01:07:50.160 Everything I gave us, let's be loving

01:07:53.000 Why does it take a lifetime

01:07:56.400 To look at ourselves and be satisfied

01:07:59.560 Even then, most of us are sad and tired

01:08:02.040 We gotta pick ourselves up and realize

01:08:04.400 So let's be kind and let's smile at ourselves

01:08:07.080 We know we aren't perfect yet, that'll take a while

01:08:10.000 So let's start loving, loving, loving, loving

01:08:14.460 Everything I gave us, let's be loving

01:08:16.840 Loving, loving, loving, loving

01:08:19.340 Everything I gave us, let's be loving

01:08:21.980 Oh, look at yourself, lovely

01:08:25.540 Everybody else, we're so lovely

01:08:28.140 Oh, look at yourself, we are lovely

01:08:30.680 Everybody else, we are lovely

01:08:33.000 Oh, look at yourself, lovely

01:08:35.680 Everybody else, we're so lovely

01:08:38.220 Oh, look at yourself, we are lovely

01:08:40.780 Oh, everybody else, we are lovely

01:08:43.580 Oh, look at the moon and the stars and the sun

01:08:46.240 It's shining so bright

01:08:47.460 Yeah, that's how you got me

01:08:48.720 Then we look at yourself, shining

01:08:50.600 And tell me what's not to love

01:08:53.400 So let's be kind and let's smile at ourselves

01:08:56.080 We know we aren't perfect yet, that'll take a while

01:08:59.760 So let's start loving, loving, loving, loving

01:09:03.460 Everything I gave us, let's be loving

01:09:05.800 Loving, loving, loving, loving

01:09:08.300 Everything I gave us, let's be loving

01:09:10.760 Wow

01:09:12.940 When you started writing this new album

01:09:16.140 Yeah

01:09:16.720 Did you have a moment of like, can I do this again?

01:09:20.920 No, because it was all written at the same time

01:09:22.700 So you haven't run out of songs that you started to write back then?

01:09:27.620 No, this was all, I have not written a Christian song

01:09:29.980 Except for Am I Enough, Love Like You, and Angels

01:09:35.000 I think they're the only ones that I've written in the last two years

01:09:38.980 Wow

01:09:39.480 Yeah, everything was written then

01:09:42.140 And when I was putting together my first album with the label

01:09:45.100 I had to pick and choose

01:09:46.760 And so part of me felt like, oh, this is the scraps

01:09:49.240 Because in my mind, I was just going to do one Christian album

01:09:51.380 And then I was going to move on to, you know, stuff like Till That Day

01:09:54.720 And the other stuff that I had

01:09:56.020 But

01:09:57.020 I hope you never, don't stop mixing them 0.97

01:10:00.080 I know, but the thing is, is like, it's just inspiration

01:10:02.700 So I can't make myself sit down and be like, I'm going to write this

01:10:05.260 No, I know that, I know that

01:10:06.080 But I hope you don't ever listen to somebody who says

01:10:07.740 No, that's got to go on a Christian album

01:10:09.460 Yeah, yeah, I know

01:10:10.220 Mix them

01:10:10.500 I know, and I think it will always continue to like

01:10:13.540 Music is changing

01:10:16.040 You don't have to have, like with what we're talking about, bouquets

01:10:18.960 It doesn't have to be one thing

01:10:20.240 And so I'm like, I can write a Christian song and stick it in a pop or an B album

01:10:24.640 So, and I just

01:10:26.000 Think people like to put me in boxes for better or for worse

01:10:29.800 Of like, oh, you're this type of person, this type of singer

01:10:33.020 So this is what you'll be

01:10:34.400 And I'm just like, I, not to mention Taylor Swift again

01:10:38.860 But like, like Taylor Swift, have my eras

01:10:41.440 So like, right now it's going to be probably more on the nose Christian 1.00

01:10:45.560 And then I'll write others

01:10:46.960 I mean, I've written, I have had like two other albums that are just like locked and loaded

01:10:50.500 But timing

01:10:52.260 And so it's just like, it will, I don't know

01:10:55.860 Like, I want to do so many things

01:10:56.980 I want to write scores for Broadway

01:10:58.300 I want to do these types of things

01:11:00.140 I want to be a double, I want to be Adele in 007 and do the end credit

01:11:04.120 I want, you know, it's like, I have lots of visions

01:11:05.980 And it's not just going to be the one thing

01:11:07.820 And it never started as one thing

01:11:09.360 But, um, and that's the other thing too

01:11:11.800 Is I don't know that people realize that like

01:11:13.880 This isn't me being sure

01:11:16.180 And saying, you need to believe the same as me

01:11:18.680 This was me coming from a place

01:11:20.260 When I didn't really know if I believed in God

01:11:21.960 Or what I believed in

01:11:23.300 And having lots of questions

01:11:25.480 Like, I just have to have faith

01:11:27.100 Because it's the only thing that I have

01:11:28.820 I don't have any knowledge

01:11:29.860 And, um, or am I enough?

01:11:33.520 I don't know, but I sure hope so

01:11:35.000 And I've prayed that prayer a thousand times

01:11:36.720 And I keep on getting amazing grace

01:11:38.080 Could you play a little of

01:11:39.220 Yeah

01:11:39.620 Am I enough?

01:11:40.860 I'll play the first half of that

01:11:42.760 The

01:11:43.080 Am I enough?

01:11:47.580 Enough for you, Lord

01:11:49.900 Am I enough?

01:11:53.300 With all the things I don't do, Lord

01:11:58.000 Am I enough?

01:12:02.340 Am I worth loving?

01:12:06.080 It's not I don't trust

01:12:09.360 You're ever loving

01:12:12.040 But some say

01:12:15.220 Some say we might not make it into heaven

01:12:19.440 And what if it's me

01:12:23.140 Am I forgiven?

01:12:24.840 Am I forgiven?

01:12:33.840 Open my eyes

01:12:37.780 To amazing grace

01:12:40.840 How sweet the sound

01:12:44.120 To hear you say

01:12:46.720 You are enough

01:12:49.820 And you always have been

01:12:54.000 So don't lose your faith

01:12:59.820 For you are mine

01:13:04.520 So beautiful

01:13:08.300 Thank you

01:13:09.200 How many people

01:13:10.460 Need to hear that?

01:13:13.220 Yeah

01:13:13.440 That's the only thing that I'm sure of

01:13:16.000 Honestly

01:13:16.580 Like my

01:13:17.420 My life is full of

01:13:18.920 You know, kind of

01:13:20.180 I mentioned

01:13:20.920 Just reconstruction all the time

01:13:22.980 The more people I meet

01:13:23.860 The more I reconstruct

01:13:24.660 Because it allows me to

01:13:27.140 Build more walls

01:13:29.460 Of love

01:13:31.080 Yeah

01:13:31.460 You know

01:13:31.920 Like not walls between us

01:13:33.720 But it allows me to knock down

01:13:35.240 And rebuild

01:13:36.180 Of like

01:13:36.600 Oh

01:13:36.900 I understand that better now

01:13:38.180 Let me love more

01:13:38.940 And

01:13:39.840 That's kind of

01:13:41.900 For me

01:13:42.180 The only thing I'm sure of

01:13:43.600 With my music

01:13:44.200 Is like

01:13:44.700 I don't know

01:13:45.740 I don't know where I stand

01:13:47.080 On a lot of stuff

01:13:47.900 I don't know

01:13:48.620 Like all the ins and the outs

01:13:50.840 And if you want to get into

01:13:52.500 The semantics

01:13:53.260 And all

01:13:53.880 The theology

01:13:54.600 But what I

01:13:56.100 The thing I do cling to

01:13:57.460 As my belief

01:13:58.980 Bordering on knowledge

01:14:00.140 Is like

01:14:00.580 Love is the most important thing

01:14:02.580 Yeah

01:14:02.980 If we can't

01:14:03.880 Love people

01:14:04.640 Then

01:14:05.540 There's probably some walls up

01:14:07.360 Yeah

01:14:07.740 And

01:14:08.140 We don't have to

01:14:09.260 Like each other

01:14:10.000 Yeah

01:14:11.260 We should love each other

01:14:12.500 But there are some people

01:14:13.600 There are some people

01:14:14.920 That

01:14:15.240 I think

01:14:16.500 Won't be your cup of tea

01:14:18.520 And that's okay

01:14:20.240 I've also learned

01:14:21.420 Like

01:14:21.680 And I'm not gonna ever

01:14:22.440 Write songs about like

01:14:23.640 You don't have to like them

01:14:25.200 Just go on

01:14:26.380 Because I feel like

01:14:27.260 It's implied

01:14:27.880 You know

01:14:28.360 But what's not implied

01:14:30.040 Is like

01:14:30.660 The people you hate

01:14:31.760 You should love

01:14:32.680 Like it's just

01:14:33.800 And

01:14:34.660 Yeah

01:14:36.820 I don't know

01:14:37.360 I just

01:14:37.740 I find so much more peace

01:14:39.340 In promoting

01:14:40.020 A more broad

01:14:41.880 Love

01:14:42.760 And let people

01:14:43.580 Get to dissect that

01:14:44.520 For themselves

01:14:45.220 Because I'm like

01:14:46.740 Yeah

01:14:47.160 This resonates with me

01:14:48.280 No matter where I'm at

01:14:49.120 On my journey

01:14:49.680 I resonate with love

01:14:51.320 And compassion

01:14:52.020 Can I ask you to do

01:14:54.000 One more song

01:14:54.480 And tell me the story

01:14:55.400 Yeah

01:14:56.040 Of Angel

01:14:56.940 Yeah

01:14:57.440 I believe in angels

01:14:58.480 This is a

01:15:00.180 This is one of my

01:15:00.920 Favorite stories

01:15:01.580 So

01:15:01.960 And this is about

01:15:03.620 Not knowing

01:15:05.480 Your direct

01:15:06.040 Impact

01:15:06.880 On

01:15:07.940 People

01:15:08.860 But

01:15:09.520 I sometimes

01:15:10.520 Get the privilege

01:15:11.160 Of hearing

01:15:11.840 Exactly what that meant

01:15:13.340 I was doing

01:15:15.780 I was singing

01:15:16.560 At a

01:15:17.120 Devotional

01:15:18.500 And they had a speaker

01:15:19.820 Before me

01:15:20.400 And

01:15:21.020 She's now my good friend

01:15:22.380 Heather

01:15:22.720 Van Borum

01:15:23.440 And she

01:15:24.700 Is a

01:15:25.800 Double amputee

01:15:27.380 Couple years ago

01:15:28.480 Before Christmas

01:15:29.560 She was walking out 0.98

01:15:30.360 Of a Costco parking lot

01:15:31.340 And got hit

01:15:32.580 By a car

01:15:33.200 That was coming out

01:15:34.620 And pinned her 0.70

01:15:35.040 Between two cars

01:15:35.740 And she lost her legs

01:15:36.920 And

01:15:38.140 When she talks

01:15:39.340 About the story

01:15:39.880 She just talks

01:15:40.460 About all of the miracles

01:15:41.620 She's such a good sport 1.00

01:15:42.620 And she

01:15:43.280 Has so much

01:15:44.280 Hope

01:15:46.140 And love

01:15:46.940 And

01:15:47.520 Just wonder

01:15:49.180 Looking back

01:15:49.960 And being like

01:15:50.460 Wow how wonderful

01:15:51.140 That was

01:15:51.780 She was on the phone

01:15:53.540 With her husband

01:15:54.100 When the accident happened

01:15:55.280 And he was a surgeon

01:15:56.100 At the hospital

01:15:57.580 That shared the parking lot

01:15:58.800 With the Costco

01:15:59.460 And so he heard it

01:16:00.980 And was able to be there

01:16:02.140 Almost you know

01:16:03.460 Within minutes

01:16:04.260 And then there was also

01:16:06.260 People that

01:16:07.340 There was someone

01:16:07.980 Who was able to

01:16:08.880 Turn the

01:16:09.200 Or tie the tourniquets

01:16:10.420 On her legs 0.84

01:16:10.920 Therefore saving her life

01:16:12.140 Even though

01:16:13.520 You know her husband

01:16:14.400 Was there as soon as he could be

01:16:15.640 You know

01:16:15.980 When you lose your legs

01:16:17.060 You're in danger there

01:16:18.620 And then

01:16:19.620 Other people like

01:16:20.640 Just a woman 1.00

01:16:21.640 Who sat there

01:16:22.480 And held her hand

01:16:23.060 And I'm like

01:16:23.620 That is so traumatic

01:16:24.680 To be with somebody

01:16:25.740 Who has just lost their legs

01:16:27.700 And to be able to be calm

01:16:29.320 And sit with them

01:16:30.100 And hold their hand

01:16:30.920 And

01:16:32.280 Like that's just gotta be

01:16:34.840 A wave of just power

01:16:36.380 Of just like

01:16:37.160 Just sit there

01:16:37.740 With that person

01:16:38.420 You know

01:16:38.780 And just other

01:16:40.960 Other experiences

01:16:42.220 In her recovery

01:16:43.680 And

01:16:44.680 Just that whole

01:16:48.620 That whole journey

01:16:50.440 Was just filled with

01:16:51.580 I think miracles

01:16:52.260 For her

01:16:52.700 And angels

01:16:53.200 And people that she could

01:16:54.260 You know

01:16:56.360 Feel compassion for

01:16:58.000 Even the

01:16:58.600 The person that hit her

01:17:00.100 And

01:17:01.360 I just love that story

01:17:05.280 And it

01:17:05.660 It

01:17:06.240 Has

01:17:07.260 I

01:17:07.880 I feel it deeply

01:17:09.220 Because it's just like

01:17:10.240 So powerful

01:17:11.000 And

01:17:12.260 We talk about it

01:17:13.420 All the time

01:17:13.720 We'll go get our nails done

01:17:14.720 And I'll have

01:17:15.420 I'll just ask her questions

01:17:16.520 And what about this

01:17:17.420 And one time I was like

01:17:18.700 Okay

01:17:19.000 I was

01:17:19.620 I had missed church

01:17:20.660 And I was like

01:17:21.640 I was thinking about her story

01:17:23.460 And I was like

01:17:24.480 Well instead of church

01:17:25.420 I will

01:17:26.140 Listen to her story

01:17:27.320 On the podcast

01:17:28.060 That she had done

01:17:28.980 And telling it

01:17:30.020 So I'm listening to it

01:17:31.860 And just

01:17:32.620 You know

01:17:32.920 I've talked about

01:17:33.340 It's inspiration

01:17:33.980 I just go

01:17:35.000 And I

01:17:35.540 Walk over to the piano

01:17:37.100 Unbeknownst to me

01:17:38.260 Sometimes

01:17:38.820 And

01:17:40.040 I'm listening to this podcast

01:17:41.320 I press pause

01:17:42.300 And you want to know

01:17:43.980 What's funny

01:17:44.480 It was about the same guy

01:17:45.800 That I wrote

01:17:46.780 Till that day about

01:17:47.560 I was kind of like

01:17:48.560 I had written so many songs

01:17:49.680 And I was like

01:17:50.060 Alright

01:17:50.220 I just need to wrap this up

01:17:51.540 Wrap up this chapter

01:17:52.480 And so I was trying to write a song

01:17:54.100 About that

01:17:55.160 And wrap it up

01:17:55.960 And I was using this chord progression

01:17:57.720 And it just wasn't working

01:17:59.240 And

01:18:00.380 You know

01:18:01.320 I feel like me

01:18:02.160 Me and Jesus

01:18:02.720 We got a good relationship

01:18:03.680 We're kind of sassy

01:18:04.600 And Jesus was like

01:18:05.800 No

01:18:06.140 Stop

01:18:06.920 Get up

01:18:07.500 Move

01:18:07.880 That's not

01:18:08.540 Whatever

01:18:08.960 Put a pin in it

01:18:09.680 You know

01:18:09.980 He speaks my language

01:18:10.920 Put a pin in it

01:18:11.600 And I was like

01:18:12.700 Okay

01:18:12.960 So the next day

01:18:13.880 I'm listening to this podcast

01:18:14.920 I pause it

01:18:15.460 I go over

01:18:15.920 And I go

01:18:16.360 Angels

01:18:17.460 Angels

01:18:18.900 Angels

01:18:20.460 Angels

01:18:21.900 And he was like

01:18:23.100 Yeah

01:18:23.780 That's what that was supposed to be for

01:18:25.120 You just were trying to rush it

01:18:26.240 And I was like

01:18:27.260 Oh

01:18:27.880 And I

01:18:28.460 Then I write this song

01:18:30.860 And I send it to her

01:18:32.180 And I was like

01:18:33.000 Angels are a big part of my life

01:18:35.260 I have a grandpa that passed away in 2015

01:18:37.000 I feel very close to him

01:18:39.400 More so now

01:18:42.140 As he

01:18:43.460 You know

01:18:43.740 I lived in Sweden for a while

01:18:45.180 And

01:18:45.920 He

01:18:46.320 His ashes

01:18:47.200 We took them back to Sweden 1.00

01:18:48.380 And

01:18:48.660 I was able to be there

01:18:50.380 On his birthday

01:18:51.820 Slash death day 1.00

01:18:52.880 And

01:18:54.340 Speak Swedish to him for the first time

01:18:57.040 Since I had learned it

01:18:57.920 And I just feel very close to angels

01:18:59.360 And even the ones that are alive

01:19:00.820 And

01:19:01.960 So I

01:19:02.560 I sent us to her

01:19:03.260 And I was like

01:19:03.580 I just love angels

01:19:04.320 And I love you

01:19:04.860 You're my angel

01:19:05.540 And this is

01:19:06.200 This inspired

01:19:07.480 Listening to your story

01:19:08.800 And I sent it to her

01:19:10.400 And she

01:19:11.100 Sent back

01:19:12.560 She was like

01:19:13.340 Emma this is crazy

01:19:15.020 I

01:19:15.760 Am at my neighbor's house

01:19:17.740 And

01:19:18.700 Her son

01:19:19.480 Had passed away

01:19:20.460 The day before

01:19:21.240 From suicide

01:19:22.020 And she was like

01:19:23.740 You would never

01:19:24.900 Have known that

01:19:25.780 You know

01:19:26.400 And like

01:19:27.440 But that was a

01:19:28.640 And I was like

01:19:29.200 I

01:19:29.440 That's where I have to

01:19:31.100 Chalk it up to

01:19:31.760 There's something bigger than me

01:19:33.020 That goes on in this process

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01:19:45.700 Because

01:19:49.860 You know

01:19:50.820 It was inspired of one thing

01:19:55.940 But it meant something

01:19:56.600 Completely different

01:19:57.520 So

01:19:58.240 That's

01:20:00.300 Quite

01:20:02.540 You know

01:20:03.500 I love telling that story to people

01:20:05.060 Because it's so

01:20:06.200 Moving and powerful to me

01:20:07.860 That

01:20:08.740 We joke

01:20:11.060 You know

01:20:11.600 My age

01:20:12.380 Oh it's not that deep

01:20:13.460 Everyone says

01:20:13.940 Oh it's not that deep

01:20:14.640 But sometimes it is

01:20:15.460 You know

01:20:15.740 And it can be

01:20:17.240 But

01:20:19.020 So this is angels

01:20:20.140 Angels

01:20:28.120 There for the other weary angels

01:20:32.440 Rescuing, holding on

01:20:35.000 To angels

01:20:36.240 With glory, light

01:20:38.240 And grace

01:20:41.360 Angels

01:20:42.680 Their arms open wide

01:20:45.100 Oh the angels

01:20:46.540 Singing out

01:20:48.260 I can hear

01:20:49.300 The angels

01:20:50.680 With glory, light

01:20:52.960 And grace

01:20:54.840 Oh I believe

01:20:58.280 And what I cannot see

01:21:04.660 Oh but I can feel them all

01:21:11.300 In my head

01:21:14.920 Up to the clouds

01:21:18.500 When I'm turned around

01:21:21.760 And I can feel them all

01:21:25.140 And I can feel them all

01:21:25.160 Holding my hand

01:21:28.460 Showing me the love

01:21:32.080 I can feel myself

01:21:35.140 Yes I believe

01:21:36.520 Yes I believe

01:21:37.520 Yes I believe

01:21:37.840 Yes I believe

01:21:38.520 Yes I believe

01:21:39.520 I believe

01:21:40.520 I believe

01:21:41.520 I believe

01:21:44.520 I believe

01:21:50.020 In angels

01:21:52.020 Therefore the other weary angels

01:21:55.440 Rescuing, holding on

01:21:57.780 To angels

01:21:58.860 With glory, light

01:22:00.240 With glory, light

01:22:00.740 With glory, light

01:22:01.280 With glory, light

01:22:01.680 And grace

01:22:02.680 Angels

01:22:04.760 Therefore the other weary angels

01:22:08.720 Laugh with me

01:22:09.860 From time to time

01:22:10.720 When pain swells

01:22:12.080 And I'm trying to hold on

01:22:15.240 Yes, I believe in what I cannot see

01:22:27.000 Oh, but I can feel them holding my head

01:22:35.680 Up to the clouds when I'm turned around

01:22:42.500 And I can feel them holding my hand

01:22:48.800 Showing me the love I can see myself

01:22:55.500 Yes, I believe in angels

01:22:59.960 Angels, angels, angels

01:23:09.420 Oh, but I can feel them holding my head

01:23:22.980 Up to the clouds when I'm turned around

01:23:30.220 And I can feel them holding my hand

01:23:36.520 Showing me the love I can see myself

01:23:43.780 Yes, I believe in angels

01:23:47.740 I heard that song

01:23:59.660 And that's when I reached out to you and asked you to be on

01:24:07.300 Because I told you at the beginning

01:24:10.140 She's Adele

01:24:12.100 You know, she's Ella Fitzgerald 0.85

01:24:17.140 She's Billie Eilish

01:24:18.400 And when I heard this song

01:24:20.740 I thought, oh no

01:24:22.300 She's Eminissin 0.95

01:24:24.240 Someday

01:24:26.280 You will be a category

01:24:28.720 That somebody will say

01:24:30.840 Oh, so she's like Eminissin 0.96

01:24:33.020 Well, thank you

01:24:35.000 You are really wonderful

01:24:37.200 I wish you would come over to everybody's house and do this

01:24:40.780 It has been a delight to have you here

01:24:43.160 Well, people just have to ask and I'll do it

01:24:45.060 It's as easy as that

01:24:46.540 No, I love

01:24:48.120 This is one of my favorite things is connecting with people

01:24:52.200 So it's been a treat for me to just listen and learn

01:24:55.800 And open my heart to more love

01:24:57.620 And talk about things that make me love

01:25:00.000 And I, yeah

01:25:02.300 I really appreciate you creating a place for that

01:25:06.240 Because it's the best things that people get to do

01:25:09.900 So, thanks

01:25:11.120 Thanks, Emma

01:25:11.880 Yeah

01:25:12.360 This

01:25:15.440 So, just as like a

01:25:17.360 This, because I feel like this sums up a lot of how I feel currently

01:25:21.880 And it's what I wish people knew about me

01:25:24.960 And I think people can also relate to this

01:25:29.600 That sometimes we don't know

01:25:32.140 And as a Christian artist gets lobbed into the Christian genre

01:25:36.020 People kind of assume like, oh, you're Christian

01:25:38.080 You know you have your values

01:25:39.400 And you know them

01:25:40.100 And you promote them

01:25:41.520 And so people sometimes get upset that I'm too broad

01:25:44.460 Or that I don't say things straight, you know

01:25:47.180 You're 25

01:25:48.600 One day

01:25:50.300 One day over 25

01:25:52.220 And I just, I'm like, I don't have it all figured out

01:25:55.440 And I, I am okay

01:25:57.340 Like, I'm not terrified of that

01:25:59.120 I think the first time I kind of deconstructed my faith

01:26:02.980 And had to figure out

01:26:04.120 Okay, what is it that I believe

01:26:05.440 And I thought it was just going to happen once

01:26:07.600 But, you know, life is not just one

01:26:10.140 I still do it

01:26:11.540 Yeah

01:26:11.920 So I just, I was like, oh

01:26:13.920 I thought it was really scary

01:26:16.300 Because I was like, oh my gosh

01:26:17.240 If I don't believe this

01:26:18.060 Then I can't do this

01:26:18.860 And I can't, you know

01:26:19.440 But then I realized I was like, oh

01:26:21.880 So much life to live

01:26:23.300 Laugh to laugh

01:26:24.180 And love to love

01:26:25.080 In the midst of all of that

01:26:26.380 And so, um

01:26:27.960 I was like, I, you know

01:26:29.620 Maybe don't know everything

01:26:30.840 And can't say to people what they should do

01:26:33.680 I don't even think that that's my position in life

01:26:36.540 But I was like, for me

01:26:37.920 I'm not scared that I don't know

01:26:39.480 And until I get to that place

01:26:42.120 I just need somebody to hold on to me

01:26:44.860 You know, whether that's God

01:26:46.260 Or whether that's the people I have around me

01:26:47.940 Just hold on

01:26:48.820 Until I can rely on my own heart

01:26:51.180 And sometimes it's a collaboration

01:26:53.460 So this is truly one of my favorite songs

01:26:57.840 And this is another one on the album

01:26:59.180 That, the new album

01:27:01.780 And this is a new one that I wrote

01:27:03.720 Because I think it just came at the pinnacle of hurt

01:27:06.640 When people wanted me to be something that I wasn't

01:27:08.880 And I was like, I just, we gotta hold on

01:27:11.300 Hold on

01:27:12.100 And it's gonna be fine, everybody

01:27:13.740 Because I'm not stressed

01:27:14.600 So why are you stressed?

01:27:15.540 And it's just very raw

01:27:19.420 Because it talks about me thinking

01:27:23.140 That I'm gonna, you know, end up somewhere else

01:27:24.840 But actually maybe it's alright, so

01:27:26.420 Hold on

01:27:32.300 Till I can rely on

01:27:37.160 My own heart to brace me

01:27:41.040 Dear Lord

01:27:42.700 I hold on

01:27:45.680 To the sinner who's too far gone 1.00

01:27:49.460 To the ones who never dreamed of heaven

01:27:53.660 Dear Lord

01:27:55.380 Hold on

01:27:56.860 Thought I knew what to do

01:28:01.180 Thought I'd cruise through life

01:28:02.540 And end up with the sinners

01:28:04.420 Thought it all wasn't touchable

01:28:09.680 Yeah, he was just for the winners

01:28:12.840 Not until the dregs did I feel the dread

01:28:18.420 Of coping without you, God

01:28:24.300 I don't wanna live another day feeling the same way

01:28:27.720 So hear me pray

01:28:29.600 So hear me pray

01:28:31.600 Hold on

01:28:35.460 Till all of my fear's gone

01:28:38.600 Till I can rely on

01:28:43.600 My own heart to brace me

01:28:47.480 Dear Lord

01:28:49.480 Hold on

01:28:52.100 To the sinner who's too far gone 1.00

01:28:56.260 To the ones who never dreamed of heaven

01:28:59.980 Dear Lord

01:29:02.220 Hold on

01:29:03.380 Thought I figured out what it's all about

01:29:08.560 Yeah, he was coming together

01:29:10.800 Then a little creeping doubt starts to sprout

01:29:16.900 And suddenly

01:29:17.680 I'm a beginner

01:29:19.040 Now I know it's just an ebb and flow

01:29:24.760 And I don't need to let it all go

01:29:26.600 Just to find you, God

01:29:28.280 I don't wanna live another day feeling the same way

01:29:35.100 So hear me pray

01:29:36.540 And I know I'm imperfect at the end of the day

01:29:43.680 But that's what has me holding on to everything that you say

01:29:48.060 Cause I believe you love me

01:29:50.140 That's exactly why I pray

01:29:52.180 To feel your grace on the ebb and daze

01:29:57.920 Oh, hold on

01:30:02.060 Till all of my fear's gone

01:30:05.520 Till I can rely on

01:30:10.640 My own heart to brace me

01:30:14.120 Oh, Lord

01:30:15.820 I hold on

01:30:18.700 To the sinner who's too far gone 1.00

01:30:22.960 To the ones who never dreamed of heaven

01:30:26.340 Dear Lord

01:30:28.420 Oh, hold on

01:30:29.940 Oh, hold on

01:30:35.780 To the sinner who's too good for her gone 1.00

01:30:39.960 To the ones who never dreamed of heaven

01:30:44.220 Dear Lord

01:30:45.540 Oh, Lord

01:30:49.500 Oh, hold on

01:30:51.680 Just a reminder

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The Glenn Beck Program - February 14, 2026

Ep 278 ｜ The Next Adele, Ella Fitzgerald & Billie Eilish？! ｜ Emma Nissen ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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