00:03:09.680I think that that, again, the challenge is it's too late. It's too late for some of these ads. It's too late for the spending. They they they may be again. The main thing I hear from Republicans is it last winter rather than focusing on the Kennedy Center, rather than focusing on on the the different monuments, the ballroom.
00:03:31.680the president should have focused with his team on okay the war might still be going on uh the
00:03:38.120tariffs are still part of our long-term vision we need to be invested in data centers we need a big
00:03:43.500national plan for all those things and instead what republicans say is he spent too much time
00:03:48.560on these other things i'll say again it doesn't mean they're doomed but it is why they have a
00:03:52.580problem wait wait wait wait i you know what i like the president but i am not carrying water
00:03:58.360for the president. I think the president has done some great things. He's also made some huge
00:04:02.280mistakes. If he doesn't stop talking about renaming oceans, I think I'm going to lose my
00:04:06.640mind. Um, you know, so the president, the president is the president, but where the
00:04:12.800hell have the Republicans been on anything? I am so sick and tired of hearing these people in the
00:04:18.160Senate and Congress blame the president. The president has actually been working on a big
00:04:23.420strategy a global strategy that i personally think is genius but it's going to take us 10
00:04:28.740years before anybody figures it out if it works um where that where's the water they're carrying
00:04:35.440why why do these republicans just think that they can be elected to congress and the senate
00:04:40.560and then not even pass the save act well i think part of the responsibility yeah i think part of
00:04:47.960the challenges that you'll never go broke betting against profiles encouraging Congress. It's just
00:04:54.940not a body that's intended to act quickly, rationally, even in their own interest. And
00:05:02.720the president has never had much use for being Bill Clinton or Lyndon Johnson and spending time
00:05:09.800with them and really trying to figure out how to move them in his direction. He prefers to act
00:05:13.880unilaterally, and he prefers to just get his way. So there's plenty of blame to go around on that
00:05:18.560front. But there's no doubt. And I've said this to some of the congressional Republicans who've
00:05:23.060complained to me about the White House. I've said to them, tell me what you did. Tell me what you
00:05:27.680did along the way to try to make this better. And a great example is Roger Marshall, Republican
00:05:32.900senator from Kansas. He may lose his race. I suspect he probably will. He might just pull it
00:05:38.120out. But right now, most Republicans don't think he will. And you got to ask himself, OK, you've
00:05:42.760been senator now for five you know five almost six years what have you done to avoid being in
00:05:48.800this position and that includes just in the last year so um how how bad is it what what do you
00:05:57.460think we're looking at at the end well again i try to be done i try to be very measured here i don't
00:06:03.340predict and i don't guess what i do is i talk to people running campaigns and ask them where do
00:06:09.320things stand. I think right now what people are missing, again, not a prediction. It's not
00:06:14.420something I'm wishing for. I'm just telling you based on my conversations, the bad end of this
00:06:19.800for Republicans, I think, is potentially worse than most people are talking about. I think they
00:06:24.600could lose eight Senate seats, and I think they could lose north of 30 House seats. I'm not
00:06:30.200predicting it. I doubt it's not the base case. It's not the most likely, but it could happen
00:06:35.000Because because right now, the biggest thing in the race by far, you talk about all the other variables, how much money is being spent, are the ads good or not, etc.
00:06:42.860The biggest thing is the sour mood of voters who blame the president and the Republican policies for the high costs of everything.
00:06:50.400And that's what's driving this. That's why you see, you know, in Florida, the government Republicans might lose the governorship.
00:06:58.520In South Carolina, they could lose the Senate seat. In Mississippi, they could lose the Senate seat.
00:07:03.500in nebraska and kansas these are all places you wouldn't have expected competitive races
00:07:08.100and they're really competitive now because of that one factor so him going out is it a making
00:07:14.420any difference or is it hurting it's hard to say uh you could make an argument for either net net
00:07:22.140it's probably a slight advantage i would say simply because he's trying to as you know he's
00:07:27.580going mostly to red districts red states you gotta you gotta energize the base and you gotta get
00:07:32.300Republicans, independents who lean Republican to come out. And those presidential visits are,
00:07:37.160you know, not planned haphazardly. The president's involved, but so are the data geeks.
00:07:41.740They're trying to get, make sure that they don't, in red states, red states are going to red.
00:07:46.820If you can turn out the people who voted for Trump two years ago, they should be able to
00:07:52.100salvage some of these seats. But there's no doubt also that there are some downsides to this. And
00:07:55.860I don't think Republicans or Democrats are kidding or bluffing when they say that they
00:08:00.580They liked seeing the president on the trail
00:09:20.520And that's based on talking to some of the congressional leaders.
00:09:24.220Donald Trump gets strength when he's attacked.
00:09:27.780he um he gets strength when the first smart thing they've done that's the first smart way of
00:09:34.300handling donald trump that i've seen in eight years yeah 10 years i'll say that i'll say this
00:09:39.080i think they'll be focused on doing everything they can to win the white house back because
00:09:43.080their hope would be to have full control in 2029 and so if they think impeaching him will help them
00:09:49.040win the white house back i think they will but if they think it'll backfire the way the others
00:09:53.540arguably did, and the indictments did, I think they'll find other things to do. Remember,
00:09:59.100they want to get rid of Pete Hegseth. They want to get rid of Bobby Kennedy. There are a whole
00:10:02.600bunch of people they can go after. Donald Trump has magical powers. He's shown that. And if you
00:10:07.740swing at the guy and miss, you pay a price. So I'm not as sure they're going to impeach and try
00:10:12.140to convict him as some people are. So what do you think that means for Iran and the message that
00:10:21.400this is going to send to all of our allies all of the stuff that donald trump has set up and put
00:10:27.940in motion um you know i i talked to him before he won his election uh the last time and he said i
00:10:35.640said can you do this he said glenn i don't have four years i have two years two years he said
00:10:41.420because they can come marching through and stop all of it he said to fix this he said we actually
00:10:47.720need eight to 12 years to be able to stomp it out entirely. Um, he said, but that's only just
00:10:55.340going to, it's just going to be on, is everybody doing their job and is everything work right?
00:11:00.100Um, you know, two years, they'll just reverse all this stuff. What is, what does that mean?
00:11:06.180Well, there's going to have to be some sort of compromise, even if they're grudging through
00:11:10.100gritted teeth, because he can veto anything they do. They can't, they can't pass things into law
00:11:15.460and they're not going to have veto-proof majorities in the Senate and probably not
00:11:19.280filibuster-proof in the Senate and veto-proof in the House, probably. So I think it's going to be
00:11:24.160up to the president to decide if he does lose one or both chambers, how he wants to approach
00:11:28.820the last two years. The eye needs to be on China. Iran is obviously a big deal, but Iran is all
00:11:35.540about China, just as Greenland was all about China, Venezuela, Cuba. These are all about China.0.86
00:11:40.160And so my hope is that the president and his strategic advisors like Secretary Rubio, Secretary Besson, my hope is they say, OK, we got to deal with the Democratic Congress now, but we also have to make sure we leave office having done our best to compete with China in this existential battle.0.75
00:11:57.340So I have to tell you, I have never been, I've never seen a field of candidates, and maybe I'm just mainly talking about the 28, but I've never seen a field of Republicans that is as strong as the bench is for Republicans, and I've never seen a weaker bench for the Democrats.0.92
00:12:22.660I mean, I'm seeing these these Democrats who are dangerous, in my opinion, dangerous and crazy.
00:12:31.120If they're not Marxist, they seem to be falling in love with the Islamists and as radical as you can possibly get.0.89
00:12:40.780Why isn't the American people? Is that who we are?
00:12:44.980I think there's just an enormously undercovered story about the question of how far left the Democratic Party's gone.
00:12:52.660and what it means. And now you see people who are not as far to the left, people like Gavin
00:12:57.340Newsom, Barack Obama, basically saying, well, look at all the areas where we agree with the
00:13:02.060socialists. Let's emphasize those. I think that conversation is meant to tamp down division
00:13:07.980inside the party before the midterms. And I hope for the sake of the party and the country,
00:13:13.400that debate is more robust in the context of 2028. But Glenn, the polls are unambiguous.
00:13:18.940A large number of Americans prefer socialism to MAGA.
00:13:23.040A large number prefer socialism to capitalism.
00:13:26.480And just as we have to deal with the public opinion about Israel, which has changed so dramatically, we've got to deal with this.
00:19:31.780I say all the time, if you're sitting around waiting for Congress to be part of the solution,
00:19:36.560look at how they performed on one simple task.
00:19:38.64090 percent of us of parents and people said we need to regulate social media for kids or we'll
00:19:45.580lose a third generation yep they've done yeah they've done nothing they've done nothing so
00:19:49.140they couldn't handle that you know you talked about ai being more complicated than nuclear weapons
00:19:54.360yeah it's way more complicated than social media and they failed so we can't sit around and wait
00:19:59.360for congress to solve this they have neither the expertise nor the will if you know somebody who's
00:20:05.660turning 65, they might be feeling like they've been dropped into a constant stream of mailers
00:20:10.840and calls and ads telling them something different about Medicare. Most of it just makes things more
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00:21:09.260chapter you know the only person i think that could actually make this case is running for
00:21:15.920governor uh in ohio uh ramaswamy he at least understands it is do you know is he talking
00:21:23.180about this on the campaign trail at all and everybody everybody has to um he's probably
00:21:28.120going to lose unfortunately for him and and and if you want him to have a big voice on these issues
00:21:32.540Ohio is not a great place for Republicans right now. The reasons why Vivek Ramaswamy is not doing as well as a normal Republican in Ohio are varied. But part of it is his party and his president are on the wrong side of public opinion on these issues.
00:21:49.980And so it's hard if you're down ballot to if you're not, you know, Bill Clinton or somebody can talk the owls down from the trees.
00:21:57.280It's hard to balance, as you as you said, is right.
00:22:01.400It's hard to balance caution, not doomerism, but caution about the risks with a positive outlook about it, because the voters don't want to hear anything positive about this right now, most of them.
00:24:30.300If citizens want an unresponsive, dumbed-down national town square dialogue, if they want elected officials who aren't responsive to the will of the people, that's what they'll get.
00:24:41.120But I don't think it's going to change because suddenly we get a better class of people running for office or the media behaves like adults and concerned about being professionally responsible.
00:24:52.240I think the people are going to have to demand it.
00:24:54.320And populism is often derided, but I think there's a brand of populism that I think can force the elected officials and the media to start to think about responding to the public wishes.
00:25:06.920Yes. I mean, populism, everything to extremes is bad.
00:25:11.460There is a level of populism where, you know, I think of Thomas Jefferson.
00:25:17.220I would rather trust the farmer, trust the American people.
00:25:20.420I trust people who put their hands in the soil every day over intellectuals.
00:25:23.480I mean, you know, we might get it wrong from time to time, but we will eventually figure it out and get it right.
00:37:17.760And well, the three slogans on the wall in Little Rock, and I've written about this as it pertains to El Saad, who's been compared to Bill Clinton.1.00
00:37:26.300One of the things on the sign in the war room in Little Rock in 1992 said it's the economy.0.99
00:37:31.780stupid. But what it also said was, change versus more of the same, and don't forget health care.0.99
00:37:37.680And the two sleeper issues in this race, we all know about the economy and the price of gas.
00:37:44.720One is health care and one is corruption. And his three-sentence slogan deals with both of those
00:37:50.580in a very vivid way, very simple bumper sticker way. And so what are Republicans offering on
00:37:56.740corruption. They're offering the vice president's efforts on corruption, but the press doesn't cover
00:38:02.440them. But they're also offering a lot of what President Trump and his family have done, which
00:38:06.360people see as corruption. They're also seeing defense of the so-called Epstein class, which
00:38:10.420they look at as a sign of a form of corruption. On health care, the Republican Party has done
00:38:14.800nothing, even though there are a lot of conservative ideas that they could be talking about. And then
00:38:19.320money in your pocket, you know, they've just come up short because of the war and the tariffs and
00:38:22.740everything else so how do i explain it i explain it by a talented guy is energizing a lot of people
00:38:30.820over their most basic immediate concerns and he's doing it in a way that republicans have trouble
00:38:37.840matching because he's he's talented and because they're the incumbent party right now that is
00:38:44.340probably the most astute analysis of politics i have heard in i don't know how long but very good
00:38:52.280um let me talk to you about this shift in the way the republicans are are are voting um republicans
00:38:59.960seem to be voting early now gop wants to get people to vote early um you know we've we thought
00:39:08.360about redistricting was going to change things i don't what's what's happening is anything changing
00:39:14.260the game here at all. You mean in this election or broader?
00:39:21.520This election and broader. Well, in this election, you know, we don't really have a good sense of
00:39:27.080how people are going to vote here. Who will vote early by mail? Who will vote early in person?
00:39:30.980Who will vote on election day? Because COVID kind of screwed everything up. And frankly,
00:39:35.160honestly, President Trump's on again, off again support for early voting and by mail voting
00:39:39.980has hurt a lot of Republican candidates because voting early, voting by mail, it's better for the
00:39:46.480party. They can bank the ballots. They don't have to worry about bad weather on election day or
00:39:50.420people being busy on election day. They can stop spending the money tracking each individual voter
00:39:55.040once their ballots in. So I don't know how that's going to end up. I suspect Republicans will do
00:39:59.860better on early voting in person and by mail than they've done in the last couple. But I don't know
00:40:05.640how much they'll catch up there i think in general um you know i don't know what turnout's going to
00:40:11.900be like we we saw in 2018 half the country voted it'd be great if if we got that up to 75 percent
00:40:18.980and that would you know that'd be people across the spectrum but i don't know what turnout's
00:40:23.160going to be like it's a big mystery um can i ask you about uh ilan omar i was having dinner with
00:40:31.920some friends last night we were talking about it and the consensus was you damn well better have
00:40:37.280something quickly because uh to me if i'm an independent i'm like look at now he's doing what
00:40:44.940he's just been accusing them of doing and it better be something significant you can't
00:40:52.520you you know if you take her out on something her father did you know when she was seven i don't
00:40:59.180think i don't think that's going to go over well it might be legally correct but it's not going to
00:41:05.020go over well um yeah what do you think they have where where is this leading did the president
00:41:10.380did the president know and approve of 20 days before the election you do this yeah well he
00:41:18.200was a little vague about his role i will say this it's by it's a parent violation of justice
00:41:23.400Department policy regarding overt acts of investigation for elected officials as close
00:41:30.120to the election. It also comes in the wake of many attempts at investigations of the president's
00:41:36.740opponents that have fizzled out, that have been thrown out by the courts or where a grand jury
00:41:41.060wouldn't indict. So I agree with the folks you were meeting with. I think if we can't end the
00:41:46.320cycle of prosecutions as persecutions uh we're we're in danger as a republic this criminalizing
00:41:53.240politics is one of the most dangerous things a democracy can do so there's the two last steps
00:42:00.840i think of any republic going into a banana republic is criminalizing your opponent and
00:42:05.880packing the supreme court and you're you're you're yeah i totally agree so i agree i hope there's
00:42:12.280I hope there's something there that justified the acts they took.
00:42:16.080Now, they did get a judge to authorize a warrant, so there's some check there.
00:46:36.180And this is the vision that I thought if somebody could go out
00:46:39.580and just pioneer and say, no, this can be done,
00:46:43.440then everybody will get, and they'll say, I don't need that. I don't need the overlords. I don't need
00:46:50.100all that apparatus around me. It's nice, but I don't need it all. And I think we have seen,
00:46:57.000we've seen problems from it, but I think overall things are getting better with truth-telling.
00:47:04.480The concern I have really, things like TikTok, that people think, you know, you can get news
00:47:10.140from TikTok. But what is the state of the press in your mind? Well, the so-called establishment
00:47:17.440press, what I call the dominant media, is still just laughably, liberally biased more than ever
00:47:22.620because of the Trump derangement syndrome. Unfortunately, they're amongst them the only
00:47:27.640places that have what I think is an important ingredient that you'll never have in independent
00:47:32.180media. Glenn Beck and Mark Halpern are not sending 50 people to Oklahoma City if somebody blows up
00:47:37.300the federal building. We have no foreign bureaus. We're not filing a lot of Freedom of Information
00:47:42.580Act requests and following up with lawsuits. Those economies of scale are necessary to do
00:47:48.160the two things I think journalism needs to do, tell the stories of our time and hold all powerful
00:47:52.700interests accountable to the public interest. So I worry about that because these places,
00:47:57.500besides being liberally biased, and part of the reason they're failing economically
00:48:00.800is because they're liberally biased, they're not succeeding. They're going through decline.
00:48:05.200so i'd like some strong places that aren't biased that have the economies of scale necessary
00:48:10.060to do those two things in terms of the first isn't the first the first step to getting there
00:48:17.140is to break the back of it um and by having alternative voices 100 percent we're not just
00:48:24.160glued to those yeah but it's the problem we're gonna go we're going through an ugly period but
00:48:28.800The problem is this. We recently had the largest media scandal in American history,
00:48:36.580an attempt, failed attempt, to cover up Joe Biden's mental decline, which occurred over
00:48:40.460more than seven years. Not only did they engage in the cover-up or attempted cover-up,
00:48:46.760but they've had no public acknowledgement that they did or reconciliation about how it happened.
00:48:54.820OK, so not only does it speak to their corruption, but it also speaks to their lack of accountability.
00:49:00.840And it further reinforces in the minds of more than half the country.0.98
00:49:04.680Those places are clown shows. Those places aren't serious.0.95
00:49:08.120You can't have the biggest scandal in your industry's history and then pretend it didn't happen and expect people to have more trust in you.
00:49:15.520So so the fact that we've had conservative media throughout the period of the attempt to cover up Joe Biden's mental decline.
00:49:22.860So so you're right that that the rise of independent media, including conservative voices, has created a lower market share for the dominant media.
00:49:32.960But it hasn't changed their ways. I worked with Peter Jennings early in my career, and Peter said, let's try to make ABC News appeal to the whole country.
00:49:42.460Why leave half the consumers off our target list? And unfortunately, he passed away and wasn't able to see that vision through.
00:49:50.160But that that is not the main view. And you still go to these places. I still talk to my old colleagues in dominant media. And I say, aren't you embarrassed about the Biden thing? Aren't you embarrassed about Russiagate? Blank stares. Blank stares. So I don't think I don't think any of those places, with the possible exception of CBS News under Barry Weiss, I don't think any of those places has had their consciousness raised by the rise of independent and conservative media.