The Glenn Beck Program - October 17, 2026


Ep 287 | Midterm Reality Check: Where Both Parties Stand | Mark Halperin | The Glenn Beck Podcast

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00:00:00.000 You advise Republicans to consider panicking about the midterms.
00:00:04.400 I think there's just an enormously undercovered story
00:00:07.440 about the question of how far left the Democratic Party's gone.
00:00:11.480 Where the hell have the Republicans been on anything?
00:00:14.500 The main thing I hear from Republicans is...
00:00:22.000 So, Mark, you wrote a piece in the Daily Mail that I...
00:00:25.600 I want to start here because I hope it doesn't get worse than this.
00:00:29.160 you advise Republicans to consider panicking about the midterms uh fill me in on how bad
00:00:38.200 you think it's gonna get well things have gotten a little better since I wrote the piece in some
00:00:42.860 races like the Iowa Senate race but when I wrote the piece uh September was a very dark month and
00:00:49.780 this is not based on public polls this is not based on media hysteria including liberal media
00:00:54.840 hysteria. This is based on talking to Republican campaigns. They do not have an answer yet in most
00:01:00.620 of these races for the economy, the sour mood voters are in, and the war and tariffs.
00:01:10.320 You know, I have to tell you, it seems like the only person that is taking these midterms
00:01:14.180 seriously is Donald Trump, but even Donald Trump, I don't think, has the message. We are battling
00:01:19.700 socialists. And socialists are the only ones that are actually saying, hey, you're feeling it at the
00:01:25.820 grocery store, you're feeling it at the gas pump, and I've got an immediate solution. And I don't
00:01:30.600 hear a Republican actually sound like they're connected to the people at all. That's a real
00:01:38.840 problem. Well, and that's what I'm hearing from a lot of Republicans, including ones doing races.
00:01:43.920 They want to blame the president saying he and his team need a macro strategy. Because what can
00:01:49.020 they point to? They can point to the one big, beautiful bill. They can point to the flaws
00:01:52.580 they see in the Democrats. But most Republican strategists, and look, they could win some
00:01:56.920 of these races. They might have some few moments where they say, you know, we should have won
00:02:02.460 the state by 10. We're going to win it by one, but a win's a win. But what they're worried
00:02:06.280 about is, both in the individual races and nationally, what's the message that trumps
00:02:11.380 voters' immediate concerns? What does gas cost? What does diesel cost? What does food
00:02:16.300 cost what is so housing cost i have said this to i've said this on the air over and over again i
00:02:22.640 have emailed it to people you can do certain things like you could get rid of the gas tax
00:02:28.280 that's 25 cents on every gallon you could get rid of it until february you know until maybe this war
00:02:33.960 starts to settle down you can you can relieve the the fuel standards there are things you can do but
00:02:41.220 they just don't seem to, I don't know, care, be willing to put an hour's worth of work in?
00:02:50.000 What is the deal?
00:02:52.180 Well, some of these things, like getting rid of the gas tax or stopping the export of diesel,
00:02:58.380 there's division about whether they'd actually work.
00:03:01.180 As you know, the gas tax goes to the trust fund to build roads, and some people don't
00:03:07.860 want to mess with that.
00:03:09.680 I think that that, again, the challenge is it's too late. It's too late for some of these ads. It's too late for the spending. They they they may be again. The main thing I hear from Republicans is it last winter rather than focusing on the Kennedy Center, rather than focusing on on the the different monuments, the ballroom.
00:03:31.680 the president should have focused with his team on okay the war might still be going on uh the
00:03:38.120 tariffs are still part of our long-term vision we need to be invested in data centers we need a big
00:03:43.500 national plan for all those things and instead what republicans say is he spent too much time
00:03:48.560 on these other things i'll say again it doesn't mean they're doomed but it is why they have a
00:03:52.580 problem wait wait wait wait i you know what i like the president but i am not carrying water
00:03:58.360 for the president. I think the president has done some great things. He's also made some huge
00:04:02.280 mistakes. If he doesn't stop talking about renaming oceans, I think I'm going to lose my
00:04:06.640 mind. Um, you know, so the president, the president is the president, but where the
00:04:12.800 hell have the Republicans been on anything? I am so sick and tired of hearing these people in the
00:04:18.160 Senate and Congress blame the president. The president has actually been working on a big
00:04:23.420 strategy a global strategy that i personally think is genius but it's going to take us 10
00:04:28.740 years before anybody figures it out if it works um where that where's the water they're carrying
00:04:35.440 why why do these republicans just think that they can be elected to congress and the senate
00:04:40.560 and then not even pass the save act well i think part of the responsibility yeah i think part of
00:04:47.960 the challenges that you'll never go broke betting against profiles encouraging Congress. It's just
00:04:54.940 not a body that's intended to act quickly, rationally, even in their own interest. And
00:05:02.720 the president has never had much use for being Bill Clinton or Lyndon Johnson and spending time
00:05:09.800 with them and really trying to figure out how to move them in his direction. He prefers to act
00:05:13.880 unilaterally, and he prefers to just get his way. So there's plenty of blame to go around on that
00:05:18.560 front. But there's no doubt. And I've said this to some of the congressional Republicans who've
00:05:23.060 complained to me about the White House. I've said to them, tell me what you did. Tell me what you
00:05:27.680 did along the way to try to make this better. And a great example is Roger Marshall, Republican
00:05:32.900 senator from Kansas. He may lose his race. I suspect he probably will. He might just pull it
00:05:38.120 out. But right now, most Republicans don't think he will. And you got to ask himself, OK, you've
00:05:42.760 been senator now for five you know five almost six years what have you done to avoid being in
00:05:48.800 this position and that includes just in the last year so um how how bad is it what what do you
00:05:57.460 think we're looking at at the end well again i try to be done i try to be very measured here i don't
00:06:03.340 predict and i don't guess what i do is i talk to people running campaigns and ask them where do
00:06:09.320 things stand. I think right now what people are missing, again, not a prediction. It's not
00:06:14.420 something I'm wishing for. I'm just telling you based on my conversations, the bad end of this
00:06:19.800 for Republicans, I think, is potentially worse than most people are talking about. I think they
00:06:24.600 could lose eight Senate seats, and I think they could lose north of 30 House seats. I'm not
00:06:30.200 predicting it. I doubt it's not the base case. It's not the most likely, but it could happen
00:06:35.000 Because because right now, the biggest thing in the race by far, you talk about all the other variables, how much money is being spent, are the ads good or not, etc.
00:06:42.860 The biggest thing is the sour mood of voters who blame the president and the Republican policies for the high costs of everything.
00:06:50.400 And that's what's driving this. That's why you see, you know, in Florida, the government Republicans might lose the governorship.
00:06:58.520 In South Carolina, they could lose the Senate seat. In Mississippi, they could lose the Senate seat.
00:07:03.500 in nebraska and kansas these are all places you wouldn't have expected competitive races
00:07:08.100 and they're really competitive now because of that one factor so him going out is it a making
00:07:14.420 any difference or is it hurting it's hard to say uh you could make an argument for either net net
00:07:22.140 it's probably a slight advantage i would say simply because he's trying to as you know he's
00:07:27.580 going mostly to red districts red states you gotta you gotta energize the base and you gotta get
00:07:32.300 Republicans, independents who lean Republican to come out. And those presidential visits are,
00:07:37.160 you know, not planned haphazardly. The president's involved, but so are the data geeks.
00:07:41.740 They're trying to get, make sure that they don't, in red states, red states are going to red.
00:07:46.820 If you can turn out the people who voted for Trump two years ago, they should be able to
00:07:52.100 salvage some of these seats. But there's no doubt also that there are some downsides to this. And
00:07:55.860 I don't think Republicans or Democrats are kidding or bluffing when they say that they
00:08:00.580 They liked seeing the president on the trail
00:08:02.640 because there is a downside to it.
00:08:04.380 There's no doubt.
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00:09:11.220 If they win the Senate and the House,
00:09:14.860 there's no way we're not going through impeachment.
00:09:17.140 There's no way, is there?
00:09:19.440 I'm not as sure.
00:09:20.520 And that's based on talking to some of the congressional leaders.
00:09:24.220 Donald Trump gets strength when he's attacked.
00:09:27.780 he um he gets strength when the first smart thing they've done that's the first smart way of
00:09:34.300 handling donald trump that i've seen in eight years yeah 10 years i'll say that i'll say this
00:09:39.080 i think they'll be focused on doing everything they can to win the white house back because
00:09:43.080 their hope would be to have full control in 2029 and so if they think impeaching him will help them
00:09:49.040 win the white house back i think they will but if they think it'll backfire the way the others
00:09:53.540 arguably did, and the indictments did, I think they'll find other things to do. Remember,
00:09:59.100 they want to get rid of Pete Hegseth. They want to get rid of Bobby Kennedy. There are a whole
00:10:02.600 bunch of people they can go after. Donald Trump has magical powers. He's shown that. And if you
00:10:07.740 swing at the guy and miss, you pay a price. So I'm not as sure they're going to impeach and try
00:10:12.140 to convict him as some people are. So what do you think that means for Iran and the message that
00:10:21.400 this is going to send to all of our allies all of the stuff that donald trump has set up and put
00:10:27.940 in motion um you know i i talked to him before he won his election uh the last time and he said i
00:10:35.640 said can you do this he said glenn i don't have four years i have two years two years he said
00:10:41.420 because they can come marching through and stop all of it he said to fix this he said we actually
00:10:47.720 need eight to 12 years to be able to stomp it out entirely. Um, he said, but that's only just
00:10:55.340 going to, it's just going to be on, is everybody doing their job and is everything work right?
00:11:00.100 Um, you know, two years, they'll just reverse all this stuff. What is, what does that mean?
00:11:06.180 Well, there's going to have to be some sort of compromise, even if they're grudging through
00:11:10.100 gritted teeth, because he can veto anything they do. They can't, they can't pass things into law
00:11:15.460 and they're not going to have veto-proof majorities in the Senate and probably not
00:11:19.280 filibuster-proof in the Senate and veto-proof in the House, probably. So I think it's going to be
00:11:24.160 up to the president to decide if he does lose one or both chambers, how he wants to approach
00:11:28.820 the last two years. The eye needs to be on China. Iran is obviously a big deal, but Iran is all
00:11:35.540 about China, just as Greenland was all about China, Venezuela, Cuba. These are all about China. 0.86
00:11:40.160 And so my hope is that the president and his strategic advisors like Secretary Rubio, Secretary Besson, my hope is they say, OK, we got to deal with the Democratic Congress now, but we also have to make sure we leave office having done our best to compete with China in this existential battle. 0.75
00:11:57.340 So I have to tell you, I have never been, I've never seen a field of candidates, and maybe I'm just mainly talking about the 28, but I've never seen a field of Republicans that is as strong as the bench is for Republicans, and I've never seen a weaker bench for the Democrats. 0.92
00:12:22.660 I mean, I'm seeing these these Democrats who are dangerous, in my opinion, dangerous and crazy.
00:12:31.120 If they're not Marxist, they seem to be falling in love with the Islamists and as radical as you can possibly get. 0.89
00:12:40.780 Why isn't the American people? Is that who we are?
00:12:44.980 I think there's just an enormously undercovered story about the question of how far left the Democratic Party's gone.
00:12:52.660 and what it means. And now you see people who are not as far to the left, people like Gavin
00:12:57.340 Newsom, Barack Obama, basically saying, well, look at all the areas where we agree with the
00:13:02.060 socialists. Let's emphasize those. I think that conversation is meant to tamp down division
00:13:07.980 inside the party before the midterms. And I hope for the sake of the party and the country,
00:13:13.400 that debate is more robust in the context of 2028. But Glenn, the polls are unambiguous.
00:13:18.940 A large number of Americans prefer socialism to MAGA.
00:13:23.040 A large number prefer socialism to capitalism.
00:13:26.480 And just as we have to deal with the public opinion about Israel, which has changed so dramatically, we've got to deal with this.
00:13:33.840 You can't just denounce socialism.
00:13:36.380 You've got to figure out why so many of our fellow citizens are really attracted to it now and see what that's about under the hood.
00:13:43.500 Well, I think they're attracted to it because people see that this is not working.
00:13:50.320 It's not working.
00:13:52.380 And so you can't just keep saying, if I hear one more Republican say, I want to bring us back to the good old days.
00:13:58.460 Look, I want to bring us back to the founding documents, but I don't want to bring us back to 1790.
00:14:04.180 I don't want to bring us back to 1950.
00:14:06.940 We are on the edge of a whole new world.
00:14:10.060 use those principles to shape the world
00:14:13.660 that is right in front of us.
00:14:15.700 And I don't see anyone offering,
00:14:19.160 socialism's not a new idea.
00:14:21.760 You know, that's been failing since 1850.
00:14:26.680 So I don't see anybody taking,
00:14:30.620 honestly, and he's not good at articulating it,
00:14:33.920 the only one that I'm seeing saying,
00:14:36.620 this is the shape of a new world,
00:14:38.480 this is the way it should look in his opinion is donald trump i don't see republicans or
00:14:45.080 democrats offering actually any new solutions democrats are getting away with just riding
00:14:50.040 on socialism republicans it's like they're asleep yeah um the weakness of the democratic party and
00:14:59.140 the weakness as you said of of their leaders including the most of the folks thinking of
00:15:02.920 running in 2028, and the strength of Donald Trump as a showman, I think has kept the Republican
00:15:09.780 Party from really sharpening its arguments against all this. I think the Democratic brand is so
00:15:16.220 weak right now that it's not a fight. It's never been weaker. If there were someone like Bill
00:15:21.480 Clinton or Barack Obama, someone of extraordinary generational talent out there making a different
00:15:26.140 argument, and they weren't socialists, but they made a different argument than Ronald Reagan and
00:15:30.480 other Republicans. I think that would raise the game of Republicans. But they're running against
00:15:34.820 a divided party, a weak party, a party that's moved so far left that it's easy to occupy the
00:15:40.200 center. I believe, and I'm a little bit of a one noter on this one, I believe this is all coming
00:15:45.500 back to artificial intelligence, or as the president likes to call it, superintelligence.
00:15:50.900 That's about the future of the economy. That's about the future of capitalism. That's about the
00:15:55.260 future of competing with China. And so all roads lead there. And I think the president has cast his 0.99
00:16:01.120 lot with saying, all in, we need data centers, we need AI, this is how we're going to do it.
00:16:06.380 And I don't think he's won people over. He's on the wrong side of an 80-20 argument. And I think
00:16:10.460 the battle for the future is going to be not Bernie Sanders saying ban it. I don't know how
00:16:14.160 you ban something that can be downloaded on a computer from somewhere overseas. So that's not
00:16:19.080 going to work. But I think the president and the AI companies have not been nuanced enough,
00:16:23.280 thoughtful enough uh uh expansive enough about how this works so i think the future of the two
00:16:30.160 parties of 2028 and of the fight over capitalism versus socialism is going to be about how ai goes
00:16:36.660 and that's a chapter and chapter and chapter yet to be written what's the winning angle on that
00:16:43.900 because you know i have been studying ai since the 90s um yeah and i have been warning about
00:16:49.880 We've got to have this conversation before it gets here.
00:16:53.200 And it's almost too late to have this conversation about, you know, what do we think?
00:16:57.800 It's, you know, I think they're right when they say we're at the singularity.
00:17:01.380 The gravitational pull is way too strong.
00:17:04.480 You're going to be sucked into it.
00:17:06.460 But what is the winning argument?
00:17:09.460 Because as much as I know about it, as much as I've studied of it and much I've learned on it,
00:17:16.400 um i think it is the greatest tool that man has ever come up with and i think it is the most
00:17:23.080 dangerous tool i mean it makes it really makes uh nuclear weapons look like tinker toys um and so
00:17:30.560 people are either you're living in utopia or you're just a doomsday person and i'm neither
00:17:38.600 i'm i i want to balance that how what is the message that would win here yeah you and i are
00:17:44.600 totally simpatico on this intellectually and here's the metaphor i use imagine uh 200 martians
00:17:50.720 landed on earth and they said yes they said some number of us are here to kill you some number of
00:17:57.400 us are here to make your society better than ever and some of us are going to do both and by the way
00:18:02.200 400 million more of us are about to arrive that's yes if that if that happened if that actually
00:18:08.480 happened we wouldn't be sitting around talking about the midterms we wouldn't be talking about
00:18:11.960 the NFL. We wouldn't be talking about Taylor Swift. We'd be having national emergency
00:18:16.820 conversations, whole of society conversations. What are we going to do about this? And we're
00:18:22.140 not, you know, we're just not having it. So the first building block is there needs to be
00:18:28.300 nightly national town halls, which I want to put on my two-way platform about this with the best
00:18:34.420 experts, not the freaks who run these companies, but serious, thoughtful people, clergy, political
00:18:41.900 leaders, business leaders, civic leaders about, okay, practically how do we integrate this into
00:18:47.740 our lives? And then morally, economically, how do we make this, minimize the risks and maximize the
00:18:54.660 benefits and beat China? That needs to happen. That's the message for me is we're not having 0.91
00:19:00.680 an adult conversation. And there are people who are smart, serious, including a lot in Congress
00:19:05.340 who don't know a first thing about AI. Not the first thing. Not the first thing. I mean,
00:19:11.900 Look, I'm 62, but I work to keep up on everything.
00:19:16.780 Some of these guys in Congress still think it's 1974.
00:19:20.300 I mean, you talk to them about AI, and they have absolutely –
00:19:23.820 I mean, they are barely catching up with Google at this point.
00:19:27.340 And I don't mean Google AI.
00:19:28.500 I mean just search engine Google.
00:19:30.840 Yeah, 100%.
00:19:31.780 I say all the time, if you're sitting around waiting for Congress to be part of the solution,
00:19:36.560 look at how they performed on one simple task.
00:19:38.640 90 percent of us of parents and people said we need to regulate social media for kids or we'll
00:19:45.580 lose a third generation yep they've done yeah they've done nothing they've done nothing so
00:19:49.140 they couldn't handle that you know you talked about ai being more complicated than nuclear weapons
00:19:54.360 yeah it's way more complicated than social media and they failed so we can't sit around and wait
00:19:59.360 for congress to solve this they have neither the expertise nor the will if you know somebody who's
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00:21:09.260 chapter you know the only person i think that could actually make this case is running for
00:21:15.920 governor uh in ohio uh ramaswamy he at least understands it is do you know is he talking
00:21:23.180 about this on the campaign trail at all and everybody everybody has to um he's probably
00:21:28.120 going to lose unfortunately for him and and and if you want him to have a big voice on these issues
00:21:32.540 Ohio is not a great place for Republicans right now. The reasons why Vivek Ramaswamy is not doing as well as a normal Republican in Ohio are varied. But part of it is his party and his president are on the wrong side of public opinion on these issues.
00:21:49.980 And so it's hard if you're down ballot to if you're not, you know, Bill Clinton or somebody can talk the owls down from the trees.
00:21:57.280 It's hard to balance, as you as you said, is right.
00:22:01.400 It's hard to balance caution, not doomerism, but caution about the risks with a positive outlook about it, because the voters don't want to hear anything positive about this right now, most of them.
00:22:12.180 But it is the solution.
00:22:15.060 You cannot have a 40 trillion dollar debt.
00:22:18.080 you know i don't understand how people don't get this you know it's just like your life you you you
00:22:24.140 run up enough debt that means you have to go back to school and get a you know a degree in neurosurgery
00:22:30.940 so you're going to make a lot more money and then you can actually bridge that gap but if you don't
00:22:36.220 do something different you're never going to pay off that debt and you're you know we don't have
00:22:41.640 debtor's prison anymore but you're going to go bankrupt america and the rest of the world would
00:22:45.960 only have debtors present there is no bankruptcy for countries so um this is the game changer there
00:22:52.740 is nothing else on the horizon that is like i totally i totally agree and and i'm frustrated
00:22:57.920 because you and i again we're not experts uh we're not we're not living in silicon valley but you and
00:23:03.940 i see it so clearly and yet it's not that point of view is not informing nearly enough of the
00:23:09.580 conversation in America. There's not enough conversation. Are we even capable of ruling
00:23:15.500 ourselves anymore? I mean, there's this dumbing down of our society. There is a lack of interest
00:23:24.380 in, I would guess, 50% of the American public. They just don't care. They don't watch or they
00:23:30.520 make an excuse. Oh, it's just too negative. I'm not going to watch. Well, what do you think is
00:23:34.100 going to happen? You think it's going to get better without you watching it? You know, I hear
00:23:38.960 from Republicans who are like, I'm just not going to vote.
00:23:42.120 I'm so mad at the Republicans, I'm not going to vote.
00:23:45.020 Wait, wait, wait.
00:23:47.240 There is a difference between the two.
00:23:50.280 You may not like, you know, the one you're voting for,
00:23:53.200 but is it better than the other choice?
00:23:55.060 I don't understand it.
00:23:56.340 Are we even capable of logically thinking things through anymore
00:24:04.080 and being able to come to logical conclusions with critical thinking?
00:24:10.420 I mean, it's a reasonable question.
00:24:13.060 I think it's easy to blame leaders.
00:24:16.060 It's easy to blame people in the media and certainly elected officials in the media play a role.
00:24:20.680 I think to sound a little bit like Pogo, we've met the enemy.
00:24:25.180 The enemy is us.
00:24:26.600 Citizens have to demand it.
00:24:28.560 That's the beauty of this country.
00:24:30.300 If citizens want an unresponsive, dumbed-down national town square dialogue, if they want elected officials who aren't responsive to the will of the people, that's what they'll get.
00:24:41.120 But I don't think it's going to change because suddenly we get a better class of people running for office or the media behaves like adults and concerned about being professionally responsible.
00:24:52.240 I think the people are going to have to demand it.
00:24:54.320 And populism is often derided, but I think there's a brand of populism that I think can force the elected officials and the media to start to think about responding to the public wishes.
00:25:06.920 Yes. I mean, populism, everything to extremes is bad.
00:25:11.460 There is a level of populism where, you know, I think of Thomas Jefferson.
00:25:17.220 I would rather trust the farmer, trust the American people.
00:25:20.420 I trust people who put their hands in the soil every day over intellectuals.
00:25:23.480 I mean, you know, we might get it wrong from time to time, but we will eventually figure it out and get it right.
00:25:30.100 Let me go back to the candidates.
00:25:31.840 This Tal Rico thing and the flu, I don't think it makes a difference.
00:25:35.320 That's not going to make a difference at all, even if he was in an institution, which I don't think he was.
00:25:42.420 I mean, yes, is it weird that he took 12 days for a flu?
00:25:46.280 Yes, but diabetes, it could be it.
00:25:48.260 I don't know.
00:25:48.980 it's easy to have him just bring up the records and just say here it is just stop but i don't
00:25:54.880 think he does because i think everybody who's hitting him on this i think it's it's it's hurting
00:25:59.240 the republican i agree with you and what i've said to my republican friends who criticized me
00:26:05.040 for not you know uh demanding to see a proof of life um if this is what you think you'll win the
00:26:12.160 if this is what you think you'll win the election if this is your best argument with a few day a few
00:26:17.300 weeks to go rather than we can make texas better we can do better on policy than this guy you're
00:26:24.480 probably not gonna you're not gonna win and and i'm i'm amazed at how many days they continue to
00:26:29.300 waste on it again if he lied about it i agree with them but there's no evidence that he did
00:26:34.780 truly evidence there's people say you can't have flu for 10 days i've had the flu for 10 days it's
00:26:39.520 a little weird but he didn't want to get people sick maybe i don't know but my point is if you've
00:26:44.500 got the goods, if you can prove that he lied about something like that, absolutely. But if
00:26:48.920 you're just going to go on X and post things that are suggestive or bring up, you know,
00:26:53.180 he answered that question, says he's never been to Ohio, move on. Talk about the economy. Talk
00:26:58.380 about healthcare. Talk about better conservative ideas. And instead, again, if Tallarico wins, 0.92
00:27:03.720 I think people will look back at this period where Republicans tried to make the campaign
00:27:07.400 about this, including the president, including Paxton. I think they'll look back and say, man,
00:27:12.140 that was kind of ridiculous that we seeded the whole campaign uh what happens if i mean texas
00:27:20.360 has a chance of going blue you lose texas you lose everything if texas becomes a california
00:27:29.820 that you can't count on yeah i mean electoral college you don't have to change the electoral
00:27:34.260 college it's done yeah look the governor's race i think is is also in question now and and governor
00:27:41.360 Abbott has been a very good governor, very popular governor, but he's in the fight of his political
00:27:46.240 life right now against a pretty liberal Democratic candidate who's run a great campaign, by the way.
00:27:52.020 She's done a very smart job of making it possible. I'm not sure she's going to win by any means,
00:27:57.320 but she's done a great job of making it possible that Democrats could win the Texas governorship 0.91
00:28:01.260 first time since Ann Richards, first time in several generations. And it has to do with all
00:28:06.560 these same issues, all these same issues about affordability and healthcare and about data
00:28:13.600 centers. And you're right, it would be a massive, even if Democrats win races like that, and they
00:28:20.880 could win governorships in Georgia, they could win them in Wisconsin, they could win them in
00:28:25.200 Michigan, they could win them in Ohio, they could win them in Iowa. Even if all that happens, it
00:28:29.440 doesn't mean there's a realignment. It doesn't mean that 2028 is a big democratic year and they
00:28:33.980 start to compete. But it opens the door to that because it means they've unlocked the key to
00:28:40.360 putting together a majority in the state or a plurality in some cases, but enough to win the
00:28:44.840 electoral votes. And if they're smart, they can study that and say, well, what's the demographic
00:28:49.880 and geographic formulas? So it wouldn't be determinative and dispositive, but it would be
00:28:57.480 a big wake-up call for Republicans if they lose some of these red states.
00:29:00.760 I will tell you that I thought in 2020 when Trump lost and Kamala and Biden won, I thought, oh, the republic's done.
00:29:12.540 We're just not going to survive that.
00:29:14.640 And out of it, what we got was a different Trump.
00:29:19.880 We would not have had the Trump we have today had he not lost in 2020.
00:29:25.420 He wouldn't have done.
00:29:26.440 He didn't have the clarity.
00:29:28.600 He didn't have the mission.
00:29:30.300 He needed time away to go, okay, what did I just go through?
00:29:36.320 So I don't want to say it's going to be all horrible. 0.89
00:29:40.080 Is there a chance that, because I don't think the socialist Islamist, 0.90
00:29:45.920 you know, the red-green alliance of the Democratic Party, 0.99
00:29:49.280 I think they're so eager and so arrogant.
00:29:51.960 They just want to tell you who they are and what they're going to do.
00:29:56.480 Is there a chance if we lose the House and the Senate
00:29:59.320 that they become so arrogant that this actually flips around on them in a very—because I don't
00:30:05.060 think they're restrained at all—in a very dangerous way. And it could actually, in 28,
00:30:10.000 could actually be the best thing for the Republicans. Does that just wish—
00:30:14.020 First of all, not all your audience is familiar with me, so I'll just make it clear. I'm optimistic
00:30:19.560 as a person in general. I'm optimistic about America. You and I are talking about some pretty
00:30:23.540 dark things, not just for the Republican Party, but for America. But I'm optimistic as if we see
00:30:32.880 a Democratic Congress and we see a far left, and again, even the ones who are so-called moderates
00:30:37.760 are pretty far to the left of what the Democratic Party was not that long ago. I think it'll be an
00:30:42.200 opportunity for the Republican Party to frame things and say, well, okay, here's the choice.
00:30:47.820 Look what they're doing. There are people who support J.D. Vance for president in 2028 who say,
00:30:52.280 well, a loss of Congress would be the best thing that could happen to J.D. Vance because now he's
00:30:55.920 got a foil to run against rather than just defending the Republican record in Washington.
00:31:01.120 I think that there's going to be a big fight in the Democratic Party. Do they want to be
00:31:06.820 a party that can't answer the question, who's a bigger threat to the United States, Israel or
00:31:12.260 Iran? Do they want to be a party that supports national funded health care, government funded
00:31:17.880 health care. I think they're going to have that fight. Do you think that that is not being fought
00:31:22.920 now because the election is right here? I think the Democrats are just, I think the traditional
00:31:29.640 Democrats, a lot of them are gone. And the rest of them, I just think, I think they're afraid.
00:31:37.160 Most of them are. There's a few critics. No, there's a few critics, particularly on issues
00:31:41.300 related to Israel. But for the most part, again, the template was set by people like Gavin Newsom
00:31:46.400 and Barack Obama to say, well, I may not agree with everything everybody in the party says,
00:31:50.880 but we all agree there should be more child care. We all agree there should be more taxes
00:31:55.120 on billionaires. We all agree that the war should end. But that's not a fight, though,
00:32:01.400 in the party. No, I'm saying, no, it's not. It's the opposite. It's the opposite. But I do think
00:32:07.440 there's a very good chance the fight occurs in the context of the presidential race,
00:32:11.500 not just because someone will see a so-called lane to be the moderate candidate, but because
00:32:16.900 they'll want to win a general election. And while these positions that people like El-Sayed have,
00:32:23.460 while they can win in a midterm in an environment like this, I don't believe that those positions
00:32:30.160 will carry the day in a presidential, all other things being equal. But let's see the state of
00:32:35.920 the economy, let's see what happens with the Iran war, et cetera. But the Republican Party
00:32:39.920 is on the verge of losing either badly or extremely badly to a far left, very unpopular
00:32:46.360 Democratic Party. And that, you know, that's going to require some explanation how that could
00:32:50.960 happen. It's less likely to happen in a presidential year if the Republican candidate's
00:32:55.300 skillful, but it'll be pretty cautionary. And if states like Kansas and Texas and South Carolina
00:33:01.040 and some others, if they go blue, it's going to raise a lot of questions within the Republican
00:33:08.700 Party. Is it about Iran and tariffs and data centers, or is it something more profound? We'll
00:33:15.080 have to see how that plays out. So talk to me about Al-Sayed. How is this happening? Is this
00:33:24.340 all Dearborn? Is this all economy? He seems to be very good. I mean, he's disciplined. Somebody has
00:33:30.640 helped him sit down and tutor him in a way of Barack Obama sort of way, to where he just stays
00:33:37.820 on message even in that debate where i thought it was just a knockout punch of i can't tell you
00:33:43.200 the difference between you know which is worse hamas or uh or israel um i thought that was
00:33:50.720 really really bad but he answered it with i think we should be talking about affordability
00:33:56.160 um and that just goes over the head of so many people do do you think people in america understand
00:34:02.280 how serious this threat of uh marx the red green alliance how i mean that's a i've never seen
00:34:13.580 anti-semitism on both sides like it is in america right now it is terrifying if you're jewish i
00:34:19.980 gotta believe it's terrifying to be a jew in america in america today let alone new york city
00:34:25.580 do do the american people wake up to this well the anti-semitism and and the anti-israeli
00:34:34.000 view is a subset and again you see some of it as you said in both parties but just focus on
00:34:39.700 the democrats and else i had for a moment it's a subset of extremely radical views 10 years ago
00:34:45.880 glenn if any senate candidate in any state of either party had been asked who's a bigger threat
00:34:50.800 the United States, Israel or Iran, and they fail to answer, it'd be a disqualifying gaffe.
00:34:57.540 It'd be done. Instead, I read a dozen news accounts of the debate. Some of them didn't
00:35:04.600 even mention it, and none of them led with it. And so just as I tell all my friends on the left,
00:35:13.060 with almost without exception, you've done nothing to understand the rise of Donald Trump and MAGA.
00:35:17.380 you've done nothing to understand where that came from right yeah and i say to my i say to i say to
00:35:22.780 my friends on the right this guy who if i'd shown you his bio his family connections the things he
00:35:28.740 said in the past pike association with piker if i'd shown you that five years ago and said this
00:35:33.880 guy is probably going to win a michigan senate seat you'd say no and so now so now i say to
00:35:39.580 people on the right if you want to hate him if you want to be disgusted by him let's do it on
00:35:44.020 your own time. On the National Town Square, let's try to figure out why this is, because this guy
00:35:49.600 has a lot of things about him. Well, it starts with economics. The best way to understand this
00:35:56.400 guy at the highest level, what's his three-sentence slogan? Money in your pocket, money out of
00:36:01.920 politics, Medicare for all. He says that. That's his slogan. He says it all the time. And if you
00:36:08.760 go ask a Michigan voter what his slogan is, they'll tell you. Almost without exception,
00:36:12.280 it's broken through. So what does that mean? Money out of politics. That's about the so-called
00:36:17.600 Epstein class. It's about the billionaire class. It's about corruption. It's about all those
00:36:21.880 things. And of course, Donald Trump, when he talked about draining the swamp, et cetera,
00:36:26.300 we know that's resonant in the populist left and right. So that's number one,
00:36:29.460 money in your pocket. I mean, I'm a very privileged person, but I spend enough time
00:36:36.220 talking to folks across America to understand, I think, both in my head and in my gut,
00:36:40.320 sending a kid to college buying a house these are these are things that are for gas stopping for
00:36:47.660 gas these are i brought somebody to the airport and my friend went with me and we took his truck
00:36:52.740 it's diesel it cost him two hundred and seven dollars to fill his tank yeah two hundred and
00:36:59.460 seven dollars unfathomable uh you know afford affording health care he's he's speaking to
00:37:06.140 It's just the most gut level of money in your pocket, being able to afford basics.
00:37:12.020 So basically, it's Bill Clinton.
00:37:14.700 It's the economy.
00:37:15.700 Yeah, it's the economy. 1.00
00:37:16.980 Stupid. 1.00
00:37:17.760 And well, the three slogans on the wall in Little Rock, and I've written about this as it pertains to El Saad, who's been compared to Bill Clinton. 1.00
00:37:26.300 One of the things on the sign in the war room in Little Rock in 1992 said it's the economy. 0.99
00:37:31.780 stupid. But what it also said was, change versus more of the same, and don't forget health care. 0.99
00:37:37.680 And the two sleeper issues in this race, we all know about the economy and the price of gas.
00:37:44.720 One is health care and one is corruption. And his three-sentence slogan deals with both of those
00:37:50.580 in a very vivid way, very simple bumper sticker way. And so what are Republicans offering on
00:37:56.740 corruption. They're offering the vice president's efforts on corruption, but the press doesn't cover
00:38:02.440 them. But they're also offering a lot of what President Trump and his family have done, which
00:38:06.360 people see as corruption. They're also seeing defense of the so-called Epstein class, which
00:38:10.420 they look at as a sign of a form of corruption. On health care, the Republican Party has done
00:38:14.800 nothing, even though there are a lot of conservative ideas that they could be talking about. And then
00:38:19.320 money in your pocket, you know, they've just come up short because of the war and the tariffs and
00:38:22.740 everything else so how do i explain it i explain it by a talented guy is energizing a lot of people
00:38:30.820 over their most basic immediate concerns and he's doing it in a way that republicans have trouble
00:38:37.840 matching because he's he's talented and because they're the incumbent party right now that is
00:38:44.340 probably the most astute analysis of politics i have heard in i don't know how long but very good
00:38:52.280 um let me talk to you about this shift in the way the republicans are are are voting um republicans
00:38:59.960 seem to be voting early now gop wants to get people to vote early um you know we've we thought
00:39:08.360 about redistricting was going to change things i don't what's what's happening is anything changing
00:39:14.260 the game here at all. You mean in this election or broader?
00:39:21.520 This election and broader. Well, in this election, you know, we don't really have a good sense of
00:39:27.080 how people are going to vote here. Who will vote early by mail? Who will vote early in person?
00:39:30.980 Who will vote on election day? Because COVID kind of screwed everything up. And frankly,
00:39:35.160 honestly, President Trump's on again, off again support for early voting and by mail voting
00:39:39.980 has hurt a lot of Republican candidates because voting early, voting by mail, it's better for the
00:39:46.480 party. They can bank the ballots. They don't have to worry about bad weather on election day or
00:39:50.420 people being busy on election day. They can stop spending the money tracking each individual voter
00:39:55.040 once their ballots in. So I don't know how that's going to end up. I suspect Republicans will do
00:39:59.860 better on early voting in person and by mail than they've done in the last couple. But I don't know
00:40:05.640 how much they'll catch up there i think in general um you know i don't know what turnout's going to
00:40:11.900 be like we we saw in 2018 half the country voted it'd be great if if we got that up to 75 percent
00:40:18.980 and that would you know that'd be people across the spectrum but i don't know what turnout's
00:40:23.160 going to be like it's a big mystery um can i ask you about uh ilan omar i was having dinner with
00:40:31.920 some friends last night we were talking about it and the consensus was you damn well better have
00:40:37.280 something quickly because uh to me if i'm an independent i'm like look at now he's doing what
00:40:44.940 he's just been accusing them of doing and it better be something significant you can't
00:40:52.520 you you know if you take her out on something her father did you know when she was seven i don't
00:40:59.180 think i don't think that's going to go over well it might be legally correct but it's not going to
00:41:05.020 go over well um yeah what do you think they have where where is this leading did the president
00:41:10.380 did the president know and approve of 20 days before the election you do this yeah well he
00:41:18.200 was a little vague about his role i will say this it's by it's a parent violation of justice
00:41:23.400 Department policy regarding overt acts of investigation for elected officials as close
00:41:30.120 to the election. It also comes in the wake of many attempts at investigations of the president's
00:41:36.740 opponents that have fizzled out, that have been thrown out by the courts or where a grand jury
00:41:41.060 wouldn't indict. So I agree with the folks you were meeting with. I think if we can't end the
00:41:46.320 cycle of prosecutions as persecutions uh we're we're in danger as a republic this criminalizing
00:41:53.240 politics is one of the most dangerous things a democracy can do so there's the two last steps
00:42:00.840 i think of any republic going into a banana republic is criminalizing your opponent and
00:42:05.880 packing the supreme court and you're you're you're yeah i totally agree so i agree i hope there's
00:42:12.280 I hope there's something there that justified the acts they took.
00:42:16.080 Now, they did get a judge to authorize a warrant, so there's some check there.
00:42:19.960 Does that mean anything?
00:42:21.940 I mean, everybody says—
00:42:23.040 The standard's pretty low, but it doesn't mean nothing.
00:42:26.060 It doesn't mean nothing.
00:42:27.180 But I agree with you.
00:42:28.400 It should be done quickly.
00:42:29.160 But honestly, it shouldn't be done this close to the election.
00:42:31.560 There's a reason that Justice Department rule exists,
00:42:33.600 and I was very critical of Jack Smith for clearly trying to get an indictment of the president
00:42:41.880 a conviction before the election he shouldn't have done that and he was so open about it he's
00:42:46.380 like well the voters need to know no there's a reason we have that rule it's not a law but it's
00:42:50.680 a it's kind of a practice at the justice department this close to the election she's already fundraising
00:42:55.240 off of it i i would bet more likely than not she's never convicted and so no i don't i don't
00:43:01.020 think this is great unless they have a great case that's really bad yeah i agree i agree it's
00:43:06.300 let me see let me talk to you about Mark Ruffalo yeah he's saying now we know the Republicans are
00:43:14.780 going to steal the election which I thought that was like almost a criminal offense four years ago
00:43:19.420 to say those things yeah and he's not the the lone I mean there are some crazy scenarios that
00:43:26.780 Trump is gonna you know take the National Guard out to seize ballots and all of these things I
00:43:32.800 mean are you are we worried about any of these things actually are this just ravings of lunatic
00:43:39.040 minds well certainly there's the double standard in the press that they can accuse republicans
00:43:44.520 of anything that's true um i'm a big believer that the system will hold the president has shown
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00:46:02.140 You just mentioned the press, the honest press.
00:46:05.540 I think we are better off than we were 10 years ago,
00:46:10.720 even five years ago.
00:46:12.020 I think the ability to leave the networks
00:46:17.560 and do your own thing and be your own man, you know.
00:46:22.280 When I left and built the Blaze, no one was doing live anything.
00:46:27.060 I mean, it was HBO or Netflix was still sending movies by DVD.
00:46:33.720 Yes.
00:46:34.220 And everybody thought this was crazy.
00:46:36.180 And this is the vision that I thought if somebody could go out
00:46:39.580 and just pioneer and say, no, this can be done,
00:46:43.440 then everybody will get, and they'll say, I don't need that. I don't need the overlords. I don't need
00:46:50.100 all that apparatus around me. It's nice, but I don't need it all. And I think we have seen,
00:46:57.000 we've seen problems from it, but I think overall things are getting better with truth-telling.
00:47:04.480 The concern I have really, things like TikTok, that people think, you know, you can get news
00:47:10.140 from TikTok. But what is the state of the press in your mind? Well, the so-called establishment
00:47:17.440 press, what I call the dominant media, is still just laughably, liberally biased more than ever
00:47:22.620 because of the Trump derangement syndrome. Unfortunately, they're amongst them the only
00:47:27.640 places that have what I think is an important ingredient that you'll never have in independent
00:47:32.180 media. Glenn Beck and Mark Halpern are not sending 50 people to Oklahoma City if somebody blows up
00:47:37.300 the federal building. We have no foreign bureaus. We're not filing a lot of Freedom of Information
00:47:42.580 Act requests and following up with lawsuits. Those economies of scale are necessary to do
00:47:48.160 the two things I think journalism needs to do, tell the stories of our time and hold all powerful
00:47:52.700 interests accountable to the public interest. So I worry about that because these places,
00:47:57.500 besides being liberally biased, and part of the reason they're failing economically
00:48:00.800 is because they're liberally biased, they're not succeeding. They're going through decline.
00:48:05.200 so i'd like some strong places that aren't biased that have the economies of scale necessary
00:48:10.060 to do those two things in terms of the first isn't the first the first step to getting there
00:48:17.140 is to break the back of it um and by having alternative voices 100 percent we're not just
00:48:24.160 glued to those yeah but it's the problem we're gonna go we're going through an ugly period but
00:48:28.800 The problem is this. We recently had the largest media scandal in American history,
00:48:36.580 an attempt, failed attempt, to cover up Joe Biden's mental decline, which occurred over
00:48:40.460 more than seven years. Not only did they engage in the cover-up or attempted cover-up,
00:48:46.760 but they've had no public acknowledgement that they did or reconciliation about how it happened.
00:48:54.820 OK, so not only does it speak to their corruption, but it also speaks to their lack of accountability.
00:49:00.840 And it further reinforces in the minds of more than half the country. 0.98
00:49:04.680 Those places are clown shows. Those places aren't serious. 0.95
00:49:08.120 You can't have the biggest scandal in your industry's history and then pretend it didn't happen and expect people to have more trust in you.
00:49:15.520 So so the fact that we've had conservative media throughout the period of the attempt to cover up Joe Biden's mental decline.
00:49:22.860 So so you're right that that the rise of independent media, including conservative voices, has created a lower market share for the dominant media.
00:49:32.960 But it hasn't changed their ways. I worked with Peter Jennings early in my career, and Peter said, let's try to make ABC News appeal to the whole country.
00:49:42.460 Why leave half the consumers off our target list? And unfortunately, he passed away and wasn't able to see that vision through.
00:49:50.160 But that that is not the main view. And you still go to these places. I still talk to my old colleagues in dominant media. And I say, aren't you embarrassed about the Biden thing? Aren't you embarrassed about Russiagate? Blank stares. Blank stares. So I don't think I don't think any of those places, with the possible exception of CBS News under Barry Weiss, I don't think any of those places has had their consciousness raised by the rise of independent and conservative media.
00:50:19.380 How about the sale of CNN?
00:50:21.620 Is that going to change things?
00:50:23.620 Well, lots riding on David Ellison.
00:50:25.800 And whether he wants to institute these kinds of changes, I don't know the answer.
00:50:31.040 I know that bringing in Barry was a courageous thing.
00:50:34.460 Yeah, I mean, if you just look at it, forget politics of the person involved.
00:50:38.060 If you're just a businessman, what you just said about just cut it down the center.
00:50:45.920 just be fair cover all sides of the issue you would think just as a businessman that would be
00:50:54.440 good but can you get the staff to do that i mean well you know i had someone i was i was at cnn and
00:51:03.120 i asked somebody one of the best writers cnn that worked for me um but very very liberal and i asked
00:51:08.540 him i said i was going to do a tribute to reagan i think reagan had just died or it was the year
00:51:13.060 anniversary i can't remember but i asked him to do a tribute to ronald reagan for me i said can
00:51:17.680 you write this up for me i got it and we're going on the air and i'm reading it and i'm like
00:51:22.020 how i said to him how what what what is this he said i'm sorry glenn i tried so hard he said i
00:51:29.760 just don't understand him i i don't know what people like about him i i tried really hard i
00:51:34.480 had to go on the air and just ad-lib all of the stuff because he just couldn't do it yeah how are
00:51:39.600 you going to get journalists who you know be like me saying i actually think i could do somewhat of
00:51:46.360 a decent job because i would listen but yeah um you know tell the other side can you get that when
00:51:53.180 you're coming out of a school that is just pumping out activists you have to clean house i mean the
00:52:00.720 problem i i tell my conservative friends all the time the problem is so much worse than conservatives
00:52:06.760 think they're actually the level of bias is so much more fervent and intense than you actually
00:52:13.820 see in the product even though the project product product is you know completely biased
00:52:18.600 you have to clean house and that goes to people on camera with if the if the apple if the tree
00:52:26.200 is producing the same apples you find people like me who exist in the world who just want to do the
00:52:32.660 traditional job of holding everybody accountable. They exist. They're just not hired. They're just
00:52:38.360 not prioritized. Just the opposite is prioritized. So you go out and you create news organizations
00:52:43.400 where the leadership says we're just not going to have tolerance for people who don't want to
00:52:47.660 be fair to everybody and hold everybody accountable and tell great stories. It's possible to do.
00:52:55.080 It's a risk, though, because you'd have to fire a lot of people, including in some places,
00:52:59.420 I think you have to fire almost every, almost every anchor would have to be fired.
00:53:02.860 Oh yeah. Yeah. Um, you know, I, I, I don't agree with Barry Weiss on a lot of stuff,
00:53:08.560 but I am rooting for her. Does she win? Does it work?
00:53:12.660 If David Ellison supports her, I think it will. I think it will, because I do think there's a
00:53:16.680 market for it. You know, Michael Jordan, who's was a Democrat said he didn't endorse Democrats
00:53:21.040 because Republicans buy sneakers too. And that's Barry's philosophy. We want to, they want to reach
00:53:25.720 everybody. So if she continues to have the support of David Ellison, as best I can tell she does,
00:53:30.620 I think it can work. And that doesn't mean everything she do will be liked by Donald Trump.
00:53:35.160 It doesn't mean that no one who works there will have an opinion. It means all voices will be heard.
00:53:39.980 And that's what I do on my platform. And I'm proud to say we're having success because we say all
00:53:45.480 voices here, everyone respected. I want Bernie Sanders as much as I want Laura Loomer, as much
00:53:50.400 as I want Speaker Johnson as much as I want Chuck Schumer. I want all voices to be heard in a
00:53:56.700 respectful way under one roof and let the American people hear a conversation that is robust,
00:54:02.020 interesting, charged at times, but respectful and pluralistic. I have to tell you, the most
00:54:09.460 arrogant thing you can do is say no to somebody, if they're honest, if they're an honest broker,
00:54:16.660 to say, no, I don't, I don't need your opinion. I don't want your opinion. You're, you're saying
00:54:21.100 that no one has anything to teach me. Um, and I think there's a lot to learn from people that
00:54:26.720 you disagree with if you're both honest, you know, if you're both honest and say,
00:54:31.500 I really feel and totally agree. I, I say to people, I get notes all the time from people
00:54:36.980 who are members of the two way community and they say, I'm never going to watch again when
00:54:40.320 so-and-so is on. And I say, why is that? And they say, well, I don't agree with anything they have
00:54:44.180 to say. I say, you're missing the point of the platform. If all we put on the platform is people
00:54:48.280 you agree with, listen to them because they speak for tens of millions. If you're a conservative
00:54:52.460 and you're listening to Mayor de Blasio, I had him on last night, and you say, I never watched
00:54:56.420 with Bill de Blasio. I don't agree with him. Listen to understand the tens of millions of
00:55:00.820 people agree with Mayor de Blasio. I have Jack Posobiec on, same thing. You don't agree with
00:55:05.040 Jack, listen and learn. How can you argue? I mean, that is the key to understanding and moving
00:55:13.740 forward is actually listening enough so you can repeat their argument back yeah you have to i mean
00:55:20.080 you know every therapist will say no stop tell them what you just heard until they say yep that's
00:55:27.620 what i heard that's that's what i said and then you can have an argument if you're not listening
00:55:32.120 to the other people you have no idea what they're actually saying and i i think that's the problem
00:55:38.180 with most of the media right now um it is always great to have you on and uh and great to talk to
00:55:43.260 thank you so much i'm honored to be invited love to love to visit with you
00:55:46.220 thanks and look forward to seeing you soon you got it thanks a lot