The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 38 ｜ Jocko Willink

00:00:00.820 Today's podcast could go one of two ways.

00:00:04.880 I just met him before I came into the studio,

00:00:08.480 and I only said one thing,

00:00:09.720 do you have a sense of humor?

00:00:11.140 Why?

00:00:12.080 So it could get dicey.

00:00:13.400 Could get dicey.

00:00:14.500 I'm not sure we've never met.

00:00:16.160 I am a huge fan of his work.

00:00:19.500 He is very good at what he does.

00:00:21.880 He's a certified badass.

00:00:24.240 He is a real-life Rambo,

00:00:26.160 and he wakes up every day very different than I do.

00:00:28.940 He sets his alarm for 4 or 4.30,

00:00:31.400 so he can, quote, get a jump on the enemy.

00:00:33.600 He does that seven days a week.

00:00:35.220 He served eight years as a Navy SEAL on SEAL Team 1, SEAL Team 2.

00:00:39.620 He has completed multiple deployments throughout the world,

00:00:42.800 and in 2006, he deployed to Ramadi.

00:00:45.680 He's the guy that turned that around.

00:00:48.140 He was part of Operation Iraqi Freedom.

00:00:51.480 He commanded the SEAL Team, SEAL Team 3,

00:00:54.160 and his role in combat earned him a silver star,

00:00:57.280 a bronze star.

00:00:59.200 And the right side of his uniform is a patchwork of various other awards,

00:01:02.540 commendations, badges, and patches.

00:01:04.780 Since leaving the Navy, he has enjoyed a career as a motivational speaker

00:01:08.660 and an avid Brazilian jiu-jitsu...

00:01:11.580 Jiu-jitsu?

00:01:12.820 I can't even say it.

00:01:14.120 He's an expert in that.

00:01:15.220 He's got a black belt.

00:01:16.300 He likes, I think, getting hit in the face.

00:01:18.300 He's an MMA fighter.

00:01:19.900 He got his black belt from Dean Lister.

00:01:22.080 He owns an MMA-based gym where he trains and spars with professional MMA fighters.

00:01:27.620 He is a New York Times best-selling author.

00:01:29.880 He has developed a philosophy of extreme ownership

00:01:32.500 and the idea that leaders must own everything in their world.

00:01:35.640 This guy makes me feel like I'm wearing a skirt.

00:01:39.760 I hope he has a sense of humor.

00:01:41.880 This is a podcast you don't want to miss.

00:01:52.080 Did you see Mission Impossible Fallout?

00:02:00.300 No.

00:02:01.260 What?

00:02:02.740 I don't see a lot of movies.

00:02:04.740 Are you one of those guys that goes to movies and you're like,

00:02:06.760 that wouldn't happen?

00:02:08.340 That's part of it.

00:02:09.280 And I also go to movies and fall asleep.

00:02:11.680 Really?

00:02:12.080 It's like the place where there's no one allowed to bother me,

00:02:15.620 so I just sleep.

00:02:16.640 Okay, so there's a scene where Tom Cruise goes in

00:02:19.820 and they're just beating the snot out of each other

00:02:22.620 and one of them takes, like, you know,

00:02:24.360 the sink out of the bathroom and throws it at the other

00:02:26.900 and they just keep going and going and going.

00:02:29.460 You ever been in a fight like that?

00:02:31.260 Like, just like, I mean, like, for real.

00:02:33.760 Like, not like an MMA where you're stopping.

00:02:36.820 I mean, a real, like, that just went on and on and on

00:02:40.000 and you're like, this guy just won't stop.

00:02:42.100 Yeah, most real fights don't actually last that long.

00:02:44.800 Really?

00:02:45.220 Yeah, I mean, particularly because someone else is going to jump in.

00:02:48.980 So a one-on-one fight is very rare

00:02:51.880 and I've never had a one-on-one fight

00:02:54.920 that lasted more than, you know, a minute.

00:02:57.340 So you're better than Tom Cruise because he had two guys.

00:02:59.940 I'm not sure how good Tom Cruise is.

00:03:02.940 Okay.

00:03:05.120 MMA.

00:03:06.100 Tell me about, first of all, your Brazilian jiu-jitsu?

00:03:08.800 Brazilian jiu-jitsu, yeah.

00:03:09.320 What's the difference?

00:03:10.760 What does that mean?

00:03:11.680 Okay, so Brazilian jiu-jitsu is a martial art

00:03:15.220 that it's very similar to wrestling.

00:03:17.360 So it's grappling-based.

00:03:18.940 You don't punch each other in Brazilian jiu-jitsu.

00:03:22.420 You grapple.

00:03:23.640 But the big difference between Brazilian jiu-jitsu and wrestling

00:03:27.000 is that in wrestling, which is a great sport,

00:03:30.240 and my kids are hardcore wrestlers,

00:03:32.360 but in wrestling you're not allowed to do little things

00:03:35.860 like choke your opponent

00:03:37.160 or get their arm in such a position

00:03:40.260 where you could break their arm.

00:03:41.820 Oh, okay.

00:03:42.500 And that's where the expression tap out comes from.

00:03:45.400 And it's a phrase that's used all the time

00:03:47.540 for kind of everything now.

00:03:48.720 Oh, I had too much, I tapped out.

00:03:50.340 But that comes from this idea in Brazilian jiu-jitsu.

00:03:52.780 If I get your arm in such a position

00:03:54.720 that I can break it,

00:03:56.420 and you know I could break it,

00:03:58.440 instead of allowing me to break it,

00:03:59.680 you can just tap out and I let you go.

00:04:02.020 And then we can train again,

00:04:03.280 and that's what makes Brazilian jiu-jitsu very effective

00:04:04.880 is you can train 100% all the time

00:04:08.840 without hurting each other.

00:04:10.360 Whereas boxing or Muay Thai or the striking martial arts,

00:04:13.760 if you're really going hard,

00:04:15.100 you can't do that every day.

00:04:16.440 You can't get punched in the face every single day.

00:04:19.660 With MMA, I watch it and I'm fascinated by it.

00:04:23.620 But at no time in my life have I ever gotten up and thought,

00:04:26.900 you know, I'd really like to just be

00:04:28.460 just kicked in the face today.

00:04:31.340 I mean, where is the entertainment,

00:04:33.360 where is the, what gets you up in the morning

00:04:36.740 on a day of a fight and you're like,

00:04:38.340 today's the day I get to get kicked in the face.

00:04:40.340 There's very few people, even MMA fighters,

00:04:43.180 that don't mind getting kicked or punched in the face.

00:04:46.260 It's not a good feeling.

00:04:47.640 And the few that do enjoy that,

00:04:50.820 that like that thrill,

00:04:51.600 I mean, they usually do pretty well.

00:04:53.140 But most people...

00:04:53.980 I would imagine,

00:04:55.500 but most people...

00:04:56.360 Wouldn't that make you almost a little like a psycho?

00:04:58.160 Yeah, a little bit, a little bit.

00:04:59.200 But, you know, generally,

00:05:00.700 your goal is to not get punched in the face.

00:05:03.680 And if you get punched in the face too much,

00:05:05.260 you're going to lose the fight.

00:05:06.680 So, and that's one of the problems with MMA,

00:05:10.300 with boxing, with Muay Thai,

00:05:11.560 is you're taking that traumatic head injury

00:05:13.900 over and over and over again.

00:05:14.920 So, you know,

00:05:16.020 you're seeing it with the NFL right now,

00:05:17.280 with football,

00:05:17.960 which a lot of that is stemming from the fact

00:05:19.460 from the vets coming back from overseas,

00:05:20.900 having been blown up a bunch of times,

00:05:22.600 that minor concussion over and over again

00:05:24.900 causes long-term damage.

00:05:26.500 So that's one of the reasons I think

00:05:27.920 Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and wrestling

00:05:29.640 and the grappling martial arts

00:05:31.020 are going to become even more popular

00:05:32.760 because you can put your five-year-old,

00:05:34.780 six-year-old, seven-year-old kid

00:05:35.940 into Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or wrestling

00:05:38.320 and they're not going to get brain damage.

00:05:41.420 Whereas boxing, Muay Thai,

00:05:43.020 there's no doubt there's a risk for that.

00:05:45.100 You know, it's the same thing with football.

00:05:46.460 There's definitely a movement

00:05:48.040 a little bit away from football right now

00:05:49.860 in America

00:05:51.020 because people are seeing the brain damage

00:05:53.160 that you get.

00:05:54.340 So you need to be careful.

00:05:55.120 Talk to doctors who say that's bunk.

00:05:56.700 Like, not with traumatic brain injury

00:06:01.000 for, you know, people who have been in war,

00:06:04.000 but for football.

00:06:05.620 They say that's, there's,

00:06:06.720 the statistics don't bear that out.

00:06:09.500 Yeah, it's interesting.

00:06:10.220 I think it affects different people differently

00:06:12.780 and I think you can see that very obviously

00:06:14.780 with boxing, right?

00:06:16.420 You see some old boxers, they're fine.

00:06:18.900 They're perfectly fine.

00:06:19.800 And some old boxers,

00:06:21.280 they have pugilistic disease.

00:06:23.840 I forget the actual name of it,

00:06:25.060 but it's the way I just don't,

00:06:26.400 I can't see getting hit in the head

00:06:27.780 over and over and over again

00:06:29.060 and have it not affect you.

00:06:30.100 I cannot see that either.

00:06:31.680 You get punched in the head a bunch of times.

00:06:33.420 It's not going to be good for you.

00:06:35.900 You head to head with Chuck Norris,

00:06:37.340 who wins?

00:06:38.620 Chuck Norris?

00:06:39.180 Well, I mean, it's Chuck Norris.

00:06:40.060 I mean, he'd probably sneak up

00:06:41.240 and kill me from behind, right?

00:06:42.280 Right.

00:06:42.380 I was just with him.

00:06:43.760 It was a state at his ranch

00:06:45.100 and he's 79 years old.

00:06:48.040 79?

00:06:48.600 Yeah, 79, I think.

00:06:50.240 And he walks away

00:06:51.140 and there's like five of us.

00:06:52.840 And he walks away

00:06:53.940 and I look at the five guys

00:06:55.300 and I said,

00:06:56.020 you realize that guy could take all of us

00:06:59.100 at 79?

00:07:00.700 Yeah.

00:07:00.940 He's just a machine.

00:07:02.800 And interestingly,

00:07:03.480 he was an early adopter of Brazilian jiu-jitsu.

00:07:06.140 Really?

00:07:06.320 And so even though he was a striker,

00:07:08.040 you know, that was how he was raised

00:07:09.040 and that's kind of how he got famous.

00:07:10.220 But as soon as he kind of recognized

00:07:11.660 the power of Brazilian jiu-jitsu,

00:07:13.780 he started training Brazilian jiu-jitsu

00:07:15.340 and he eventually got his black belt.

00:07:16.640 So I have a lot of respect

00:07:18.760 for a guy like that

00:07:19.520 that trains one way for a long time

00:07:21.320 and then has the humility

00:07:22.260 to look at a totally different martial art

00:07:24.900 and say, you know what?

00:07:26.080 That seems pretty effective.

00:07:27.260 I'm going to try it.

00:07:27.940 And he tried it

00:07:28.540 and he realized it is very effective

00:07:29.940 because that's the one thing with grappling.

00:07:31.660 If you're trying to punch me

00:07:33.100 and you're a great puncher

00:07:34.740 and you're a great kicker

00:07:35.680 and you're a great striker,

00:07:37.820 if I can get close enough for you to,

00:07:39.280 if I can get close enough to you

00:07:40.560 to take you down to the ground,

00:07:42.060 your strikes don't work anymore.

00:07:43.100 Can women do that?

00:07:44.560 Are women strong enough to do that to a man?

00:07:47.740 Yeah, there's women

00:07:48.600 that are very good at Brazilian jiu-jitsu.

00:07:50.540 I have, I actually have one female

00:07:52.560 Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt

00:07:54.380 at my gym in San Diego

00:07:55.600 and she puts guys to sleep for sure.

00:07:59.320 Now, I put people to sleep too,

00:08:01.380 just in a different way.

00:08:02.300 But my daughter had kind of a scary incident

00:08:09.480 and she had been against guns.

00:08:12.180 My daughter was against guns for a while.

00:08:14.040 She was just like,

00:08:14.580 she wasn't against them.

00:08:15.380 She's just like,

00:08:15.860 they're not for me.

00:08:16.640 I don't want to do it.

00:08:18.080 That all changed one night

00:08:19.720 and now she's a really good shot.

00:08:23.400 But we were talking about

00:08:24.840 all my kids,

00:08:26.680 martial arts,

00:08:29.280 being able to protect themselves.

00:08:30.860 And, you know,

00:08:32.020 I don't know anything,

00:08:33.160 I don't know anything about any of it,

00:08:34.680 but Krav Maga,

00:08:37.720 I'm told that at one point

00:08:39.960 that was, you know,

00:08:41.140 the United States stopped training people in.

00:08:43.380 I don't even know if this is true

00:08:44.320 because it was so dangerous, blah, blah, blah.

00:08:45.880 It's not true.

00:08:46.460 It's not true?

00:08:47.120 Okay, all right.

00:08:47.980 I've seen a documentary on it

00:08:49.340 that said, oh, it's so dangerous.

00:08:51.160 I thought,

00:08:51.920 that's what we should be training people for.

00:08:54.140 But what I like about that,

00:08:57.920 and maybe none of this is true,

00:08:59.160 is I want to be trained.

00:09:01.860 If I'm going to train my daughter,

00:09:03.080 if I'm going to send my kids to train,

00:09:05.960 I want them to be able to kill you.

00:09:09.540 Mine's not to,

00:09:10.920 I'm not going to put you to sleep.

00:09:12.820 If you're trying to kill me,

00:09:13.900 it'd be nice if I could put you to sleep,

00:09:15.980 but I'm going to kill you if I have to.

00:09:19.180 So what is the,

00:09:20.080 what's the one thing

00:09:21.120 if you could have kids

00:09:23.460 daughters,

00:09:24.900 sons,

00:09:25.780 learn to be able to protect themselves?

00:09:28.260 What would you go?

00:09:29.240 Where do we go?

00:09:30.340 So,

00:09:31.280 you really,

00:09:33.020 what you need to do

00:09:34.100 is if you really,

00:09:35.580 from a young age,

00:09:36.900 is you should start training

00:09:38.320 in martial arts.

00:09:39.880 I definitely think that your foundation

00:09:41.780 should be Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.

00:09:43.720 There's no doubt in my mind about that.

00:09:45.760 Now,

00:09:46.700 what the thing is,

00:09:48.340 if you're going to punch me

00:09:49.440 and I don't want to fight you,

00:09:50.640 or you're going to kick me

00:09:52.020 and I don't want to fight you,

00:09:53.240 you know what I can do?

00:09:54.580 I can run away from you.

00:09:56.200 Yeah.

00:09:56.360 I can run away.

00:09:56.800 I can just get away from you.

00:09:57.980 If you're standing there ready to punch me,

00:09:59.380 I can run away from you.

00:10:00.900 So that's fine.

00:10:01.600 That's my first method of self-defense

00:10:03.260 is to be able to run away.

00:10:04.660 The problem is,

00:10:05.580 what if you grab me?

00:10:07.700 If you grab me,

00:10:08.820 well now,

00:10:09.580 I can't run away anymore.

00:10:11.060 And now what I have to do

00:10:12.100 is I have to fight.

00:10:13.260 And so,

00:10:14.040 you're forced to fight

00:10:16.700 in a grappling situation.

00:10:18.040 In a stand-up situation

00:10:19.480 where you're pushing me

00:10:21.380 or you're setting up to punch me,

00:10:24.360 I can just run away from you.

00:10:25.700 I can get away from you.

00:10:26.780 But once you grab a hold of me

00:10:28.220 and you,

00:10:29.620 let's say you take me down to the ground,

00:10:31.540 if I don't know

00:10:32.340 how to handle myself on the ground,

00:10:33.980 I'm going to have a real problem.

00:10:35.100 So, kids should train in boxing.

00:10:37.400 They should train in Muay Thai.

00:10:38.680 They should train in wrestling.

00:10:39.700 They should train in Jiu-Jitsu.

00:10:41.340 And, you know,

00:10:42.260 you asked me specifically about females.

00:10:45.360 Well, in many cases,

00:10:47.560 even a very,

00:10:48.340 even a decent level

00:10:50.020 Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu practitioner

00:10:51.720 that's a 110-pound female

00:10:53.940 comes up against a guy

00:10:55.620 that's 260 pounds,

00:10:58.020 230 pounds,

00:10:59.160 a man

00:10:59.660 that's an athletic man

00:11:01.600 or even just a big, strong man.

00:11:03.280 That's going to be a real problem.

00:11:05.940 And ultimately,

00:11:07.440 in many cases,

00:11:08.760 all the Jiu-Jitsu in the world

00:11:10.060 is not going to help

00:11:10.780 that 110-pound girl.

00:11:13.280 So, two things.

00:11:14.080 What you said about firearms

00:11:14.880 is 100% correct.

00:11:15.820 I mean,

00:11:16.720 that is the ultimate equalizer

00:11:17.980 and that is,

00:11:19.240 if you truly need to protect yourself,

00:11:20.720 that is the ultimate way.

00:11:21.920 And so, what I tell females now

00:11:23.320 when they say,

00:11:23.900 well, why should I even train?

00:11:25.340 Why should I even train?

00:11:26.060 If it's not,

00:11:26.440 if I can't defeat a 230-pound man,

00:11:29.500 why should I even train?

00:11:30.320 Well, the answer to that

00:11:31.300 is very simple.

00:11:33.020 You might not be able

00:11:34.020 to defeat that man,

00:11:35.140 but if you're in a situation

00:11:37.940 where someone's trying to grab you,

00:11:39.640 someone's trying to control you,

00:11:40.760 you might be able

00:11:41.740 to delay that control

00:11:43.420 for 10 seconds,

00:11:45.000 20 seconds,

00:11:45.620 30 seconds,

00:11:46.100 a minute.

00:11:46.740 And that might be the difference

00:11:48.100 between someone seeing you,

00:11:50.540 someone being able to help you,

00:11:52.340 you being able to cry out for help,

00:11:53.960 police being able

00:11:54.520 to come on the scenes

00:11:55.040 or whatever the case may be.

00:11:56.400 So, you should do

00:11:57.640 everything you can.

00:11:58.480 And I'll tell you,

00:11:59.300 you go against a girl

00:12:00.460 that's been trained

00:12:01.160 in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu,

00:12:02.080 it is not easy.

00:12:03.320 It's not easy.

00:12:03.900 It's going to be very,

00:12:04.700 they're going to be a difficult fight.

00:12:07.100 Not even for you.

00:12:08.220 Even for anyone.

00:12:09.320 I mean, they're going to be able

00:12:09.880 to do things

00:12:10.440 that you don't expect them to do.

00:12:12.840 So, it's important to train

00:12:14.500 regardless of the,

00:12:17.580 if you pick a style,

00:12:19.160 I would say pick your base style

00:12:20.340 to be Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.

00:12:21.220 And then you get into things

00:12:22.320 like Krav Maga,

00:12:23.180 which they start talking

00:12:24.420 about weapons

00:12:24.980 and things like that.

00:12:25.660 And they start talking

00:12:26.720 about some immediate drills

00:12:28.000 to do in certain situations.

00:12:29.780 And that's fine.

00:12:30.340 You should drill those things.

00:12:31.440 I have a very open mind.

00:12:33.460 I think people should train

00:12:35.040 all kinds of martial arts

00:12:36.880 and be prepared

00:12:39.120 to the best of their ability

00:12:40.440 throughout their life.

00:12:41.960 And that's another thing.

00:12:42.520 You're not going to learn how,

00:12:43.240 you're not going to learn

00:12:43.780 a magic move.

00:12:44.640 That's one of the things

00:12:45.520 that can be a little bit deceiving

00:12:48.260 about some martial arts

00:12:49.100 is, well,

00:12:49.560 if I touch you here

00:12:50.880 or I hit you here,

00:12:51.800 that's going to incapacitate you.

00:12:53.020 Those things really don't happen.

00:12:57.320 There's no magic place

00:12:58.500 for me to touch you

00:12:59.260 and you just fall down.

00:13:00.620 Now, if I get a perfect punch

00:13:02.140 and I hit you in a knockout spot,

00:13:04.620 sure, I could knock you out.

00:13:06.180 But even you watch a boxing match,

00:13:07.800 how often does someone

00:13:08.420 actually get knocked out?

00:13:09.440 They get punched in the head

00:13:10.260 150 times they don't get knocked out.

00:13:12.300 That happens all the time.

00:13:13.540 So we can't count

00:13:14.480 on those knockout punches.

00:13:16.200 We can't count on one technique

00:13:17.800 that's going to save your life.

00:13:19.200 What you should do

00:13:20.000 is train to be ready

00:13:21.080 and train to be prepared

00:13:22.100 for all of life

00:13:23.860 in a multitude

00:13:25.200 of different arenas.

00:13:27.660 I want to talk to you

00:13:28.500 a little bit.

00:13:28.840 You wrote an article

00:13:29.460 about toxic masculinity,

00:13:31.020 which I thought was fantastic.

00:13:34.060 But can I ask the cameraman,

00:13:35.640 can you pull back on him

00:13:37.280 from the front shot,

00:13:39.060 please pull back

00:13:39.560 so you can get the full view

00:13:41.240 of what I'm seeing?

00:13:42.780 This camera, please.

00:13:43.740 Behind me.

00:13:44.020 There, there.

00:13:44.540 Look at the arms.

00:13:45.380 Okay, sorry.

00:13:46.040 I'm just heavy.

00:13:46.820 I just, Barbie dolls

00:13:50.160 do not look like people.

00:13:52.760 I feel like I'm sitting

00:13:54.120 across from G.I. Joe.

00:13:55.800 You just look exactly

00:13:58.560 like G.I. Joe in real life.

00:14:00.620 Has anybody ever told you that?

00:14:02.420 I have heard things

00:14:04.980 along those lines before

00:14:06.020 that I, um,

00:14:06.800 did they write out

00:14:07.500 a central casting

00:14:08.300 for, you know,

00:14:09.180 the military dude?

00:14:10.560 No, it's, I mean,

00:14:11.480 but it's, it's almost like

00:14:12.600 they made the little

00:14:13.400 plastic man after you.

00:14:14.580 Um, I, I want to talk

00:14:16.540 to you, um, about toxic masculinity,

00:14:19.460 um, because I think

00:14:20.840 your point of view

00:14:22.380 is really good

00:14:25.020 and it's nuanced,

00:14:27.180 but nobody would give you

00:14:29.780 the benefit of the doubt

00:14:31.340 of the nuance.

00:14:32.580 Am I right?

00:14:33.660 Sure.

00:14:34.200 Yeah.

00:14:34.440 Sure.

00:14:34.940 Yeah.

00:14:35.220 So talk to me

00:14:36.740 about toxic masculinity.

00:14:38.860 I think they take

00:14:40.140 certain aspects

00:14:41.220 that are considered

00:14:42.040 to be masculine aspects.

00:14:43.200 And if you take

00:14:43.940 those aspects to the extreme,

00:14:45.200 well, they're,

00:14:45.820 they're going to be bad.

00:14:46.480 And that's, that's true.

00:14:48.060 You take any,

00:14:49.060 you take any characteristic

00:14:50.460 of a human being

00:14:51.300 and you take it to an extreme

00:14:52.600 and it's probably going

00:14:53.460 to be bad.

00:14:54.040 Even, even,

00:14:55.280 even ones that seem good.

00:14:56.980 Well, for instance,

00:14:57.600 confidence, right?

00:14:58.800 You should be confident.

00:14:59.840 Would you want your children

00:15:01.080 to be confident?

00:15:01.720 Of course you would want

00:15:02.400 your children to be confident.

00:15:03.740 Not overconfident.

00:15:04.840 What if they become

00:15:05.340 overconfident?

00:15:06.060 Well, then they're arrogant

00:15:06.940 and they're egotistical

00:15:07.880 and they're going to have

00:15:09.960 a downfall

00:15:10.460 because of that

00:15:11.120 overconfidence.

00:15:11.920 There's, you want your kids

00:15:13.960 to be articulate

00:15:15.460 and able to,

00:15:16.340 able to speak well.

00:15:17.660 Well, what happens

00:15:18.340 if they end up

00:15:19.300 speaking all the time

00:15:20.200 and they cut people off

00:15:21.100 and they don't let anyone else

00:15:21.920 get a word in edgewise?

00:15:23.380 That's a problem.

00:15:24.180 We don't want that.

00:15:24.980 You go to the other end

00:15:25.720 of the spectrum

00:15:26.160 where they're too shy

00:15:27.560 and they're,

00:15:28.180 they, they won't say

00:15:29.040 anything at all.

00:15:29.760 Well, that's not good either.

00:15:30.960 So where do you want to be?

00:15:31.960 You want to be balanced

00:15:32.840 somewhere in the middle.

00:15:34.260 Do you want to be competitive?

00:15:35.480 There's sort of a

00:15:36.120 traditional masculine trait.

00:15:38.040 Now, if you ever met my,

00:15:40.000 my daughters,

00:15:41.540 I have three daughters

00:15:42.060 and one son.

00:15:42.880 My, my daughter,

00:15:44.140 my oldest daughter

00:15:44.800 is a psychotic competitive,

00:15:46.620 right?

00:15:47.540 So it's,

00:15:49.140 but I find that

00:15:49.760 very difficult to believe.

00:15:51.280 Yeah.

00:15:51.520 It's, it's considered

00:15:52.200 to be a masculine trait.

00:15:53.060 And do you want your kids

00:15:54.360 to be competitive?

00:15:55.520 Of course you want

00:15:56.360 your kids to be competitive.

00:15:57.440 Do you want your kids

00:15:58.600 to be so competitive

00:15:59.740 that they cheat?

00:16:01.580 Do you want them

00:16:02.160 to be so competitive

00:16:03.020 that they lie?

00:16:04.100 Do you want them

00:16:04.480 to be so competitive

00:16:05.380 that they step

00:16:06.500 on the backs

00:16:07.080 of other people

00:16:07.880 to rise up above them?

00:16:10.220 Of course you don't want

00:16:10.940 your kid to be that competitive.

00:16:12.360 Or so competitive

00:16:13.040 that they can't handle failure.

00:16:14.660 Or so competitive.

00:16:15.520 Do you,

00:16:16.020 all the,

00:16:16.480 all these are the,

00:16:17.560 the traits taken to the extreme.

00:16:19.340 Now, the other end

00:16:20.100 of the spectrum is,

00:16:21.560 well, I don't care

00:16:22.020 if I win or lose.

00:16:23.160 I don't care if I get beat.

00:16:24.600 Do you want your kid

00:16:25.060 to be like that?

00:16:25.820 No.

00:16:26.280 Where do you want

00:16:26.700 your kid to be?

00:16:27.480 You want your kid

00:16:28.160 to be balanced.

00:16:29.280 And so the idea

00:16:30.740 of toxic masculinity,

00:16:32.100 I think is just taking

00:16:33.160 some what are considered

00:16:34.500 to be traditional

00:16:35.600 masculine traits

00:16:36.860 taking them out

00:16:37.600 to an extreme

00:16:38.180 and you'd say,

00:16:39.180 okay, yeah, they're bad.

00:16:40.080 So what's,

00:16:40.440 what's a man?

00:16:41.160 What is a man?

00:16:41.980 What should a man be?

00:16:44.760 I look at what a man

00:16:46.360 should be is someone

00:16:47.280 that does what

00:16:47.980 they're supposed to do.

00:16:53.800 That's more of a human.

00:16:56.140 Sure.

00:16:56.760 In that,

00:16:57.240 I mean,

00:16:57.420 that's what we're

00:16:58.660 all supposed to do that.

00:17:00.060 We're all supposed

00:17:00.740 to do that.

00:17:02.360 Yeah,

00:17:02.540 I mean,

00:17:03.260 I don't know

00:17:03.920 how I really

00:17:05.120 differentiate.

00:17:06.400 So I have a,

00:17:07.440 I had a really good friend,

00:17:09.060 John Huntsman Sr.

00:17:10.140 He was an old Navy man

00:17:12.600 from World War II.

00:17:13.800 He was just great.

00:17:15.020 And he was a real gentleman.

00:17:18.500 And we were walking

00:17:19.760 one night,

00:17:20.600 we were in Wyoming

00:17:22.720 or Idaho.

00:17:23.280 and we're just walking

00:17:25.400 and walking him home

00:17:26.340 and he looks up

00:17:28.480 at the sky

00:17:29.200 and he was a navigator.

00:17:30.820 And he said,

00:17:32.320 you read the stars?

00:17:34.020 And I said,

00:17:35.500 no.

00:17:36.760 And he said,

00:17:37.800 every man should know

00:17:39.400 how to read the stars.

00:17:41.320 And he,

00:17:42.380 then he went into

00:17:43.140 a little bit

00:17:43.540 and it was more

00:17:44.360 philosophical in a way.

00:17:47.060 What should,

00:17:48.220 what makes a man,

00:17:49.340 what should a man

00:17:50.620 as a dad of a boy,

00:17:52.580 what should I be teaching

00:17:54.120 my son

00:17:55.180 what a man is?

00:17:57.900 This is a,

00:17:58.760 this is a list of things

00:18:00.060 that goes on and on.

00:18:01.580 And what I did

00:18:02.960 is I wrote a book about it.

00:18:06.060 I wrote a book

00:18:06.940 because I had a son

00:18:09.340 and as I went out

00:18:11.680 to try and find books

00:18:12.760 for my son to read,

00:18:14.020 have you ever tried

00:18:14.720 to find books for,

00:18:15.640 for,

00:18:15.820 it's awful.

00:18:16.440 It's,

00:18:16.800 it's horrible.

00:18:17.920 Yeah.

00:18:18.160 And I could not find

00:18:19.200 any books that

00:18:20.640 you find all kinds

00:18:21.540 of women,

00:18:21.900 hero.

00:18:22.800 Right.

00:18:23.260 I couldn't find

00:18:23.740 any books where,

00:18:25.100 oh,

00:18:25.300 okay,

00:18:25.620 this is the values

00:18:27.060 I want to pass

00:18:27.620 on to my son.

00:18:28.780 And so I wrote

00:18:30.020 a book called

00:18:30.380 Way of the Warrior Kid.

00:18:31.520 And what the book

00:18:32.600 is about is about

00:18:33.340 a young kid.

00:18:35.140 He's 10 years old.

00:18:36.560 He can't do any

00:18:37.380 pull-ups.

00:18:38.760 So he's getting

00:18:39.380 made fun of

00:18:39.980 in school.

00:18:41.940 He doesn't know

00:18:43.240 his times tables.

00:18:44.260 Even though the other

00:18:44.920 kids know their times

00:18:45.560 tables,

00:18:45.800 he doesn't know

00:18:46.180 his times tables yet.

00:18:47.140 He doesn't know

00:18:47.720 how to swim

00:18:48.100 and he's getting

00:18:49.920 picked on

00:18:50.380 by the school bully.

00:18:51.900 And so

00:18:52.700 he's all sad.

00:18:54.860 Last day of school,

00:18:55.980 they actually are

00:18:57.040 doing a competition

00:18:57.900 to see who can do

00:18:58.680 the most pull-ups.

00:18:59.220 He can't do any.

00:18:59.840 He's getting laughed at.

00:19:01.220 The class field trip

00:19:02.700 is at a lake.

00:19:03.340 He can't swim.

00:19:05.440 He's getting picked on,

00:19:06.240 like I said,

00:19:06.720 by the school bully,

00:19:08.060 Kenny Williamson,

00:19:08.880 by the way.

00:19:09.380 Got to watch out for him.

00:19:10.320 So he goes home.

00:19:11.660 He's all sad.

00:19:12.140 He's crying.

00:19:12.780 And when he gets home,

00:19:14.360 he remembers that

00:19:15.220 his uncle is coming

00:19:15.940 to stay with him

00:19:16.680 for the summer.

00:19:17.840 And his uncle

00:19:18.580 was in the SEAL teams.

00:19:20.060 And so his uncle

00:19:20.700 shows up

00:19:21.220 and they're actually

00:19:21.780 staying in the young kid

00:19:22.900 Mark's bedroom.

00:19:24.660 And his uncle says,

00:19:26.100 hey, you know,

00:19:26.420 what do you want to do tomorrow?

00:19:27.100 You want to go play

00:19:28.180 some basketball?

00:19:28.860 You want to go for a swim?

00:19:29.580 It's going to be hot out.

00:19:30.200 And the kid Mark

00:19:31.800 kind of says,

00:19:32.560 well, I'm not really good

00:19:33.840 at basketball

00:19:34.360 and I don't know how to swim.

00:19:35.460 And he breaks down

00:19:35.960 and he starts crying

00:19:36.640 and explains to his uncle

00:19:38.300 all the problems that he has.

00:19:39.800 And his uncle says,

00:19:40.980 these aren't problems.

00:19:42.840 These are things

00:19:43.260 that you can fix.

00:19:44.660 And he trains him

00:19:47.020 over the summer,

00:19:48.220 teaches him how to swim,

00:19:49.880 teaches him how to study,

00:19:51.040 teaches him how to eat right,

00:19:52.080 teaches him how to work out,

00:19:53.220 teaches him hard work,

00:19:55.260 discipline.

00:19:55.580 He teaches him those things

00:19:57.280 and he overcomes

00:19:58.580 these challenges.

00:19:59.480 So I put these things

00:20:01.980 that I think are important

00:20:02.940 for a young man

00:20:04.020 to be able to do

00:20:04.700 into these books

00:20:05.820 and now I've written

00:20:06.520 three of them

00:20:07.040 about these important values

00:20:11.820 for a young man to have.

00:20:29.480 How important is hard work

00:20:37.220 for kids?

00:20:39.040 Hard work is one

00:20:40.560 of the most important things

00:20:41.300 and hard work to me

00:20:42.140 ties into discipline.

00:20:43.240 And, you know,

00:20:43.980 I had written a book

00:20:44.940 called Discipline Equals Freedom

00:20:46.760 Field Manual

00:20:47.920 and that was sort of

00:20:49.340 aimed at adults.

00:20:50.220 In fact, it was aimed

00:20:50.940 at adults.

00:20:51.280 But the same messages

00:20:52.480 that are in that book

00:20:53.380 are passed on to kids

00:20:55.540 in these other books,

00:20:56.880 these Way of the Warrior

00:20:57.540 Kid books.

00:20:58.720 I have a ranch

00:21:00.780 and we spent our summers

00:21:02.560 at the ranch

00:21:03.180 and that's putting up fences

00:21:04.540 and, you know,

00:21:06.100 digging holes

00:21:06.660 and chasing down problems.

00:21:11.140 And when I bought it

00:21:12.600 at first,

00:21:12.980 I was living in New York City,

00:21:14.540 which is a whole different world.

00:21:18.300 Just as hard,

00:21:19.840 but in a completely different way.

00:21:22.120 And I remember

00:21:24.240 the first summer

00:21:25.280 I went out to the ranch,

00:21:27.000 my head hurt

00:21:28.800 from living in New York

00:21:30.300 because you're constantly thinking,

00:21:32.680 you're constantly being pushed mentally.

00:21:34.980 But your body,

00:21:36.920 at least for me,

00:21:37.720 not at all.

00:21:38.700 Not at all.

00:21:40.080 There is something different

00:21:42.100 about hard physical work

00:21:44.880 that we have lost.

00:21:48.580 You know,

00:21:49.640 we might work hard still,

00:21:51.060 but that physical labor

00:21:53.700 at the end of the day

00:21:55.880 is different.

00:21:57.240 Don't you think?

00:21:58.940 I think that

00:22:00.140 you have to exercise your body,

00:22:02.100 whether that's work

00:22:02.840 or whether that's working out.

00:22:04.160 There's no doubt in my mind.

00:22:05.760 There's no doubt in my mind

00:22:06.520 that when you do physical things,

00:22:08.840 you feel better.

00:22:10.040 And this is another thing

00:22:11.640 I wrote about.

00:22:12.200 Like, this actually happens.

00:22:13.360 There's physiological things

00:22:15.320 that take place

00:22:15.940 when you work out

00:22:16.700 that make you feel better.

00:22:17.560 So, you're 100% right.

00:22:19.500 You're 100% right

00:22:20.680 and you're backed up by science.

00:22:22.140 If you work out,

00:22:23.460 you do hard labor,

00:22:24.160 you're going to feel better.

00:22:24.940 No doubt about it.

00:22:25.740 That's why you should make

00:22:26.600 that part of your day.

00:22:27.440 Even if you have a job

00:22:28.460 where you don't do anything physical,

00:22:30.340 you need to get up early

00:22:31.400 and do something physical

00:22:32.240 so you get that part of your soul

00:22:36.520 taken care of.

00:22:37.860 When I don't do anything physical,

00:22:39.520 I feel horrible.

00:22:41.680 Yeah, give me two or three days of that

00:22:42.980 and I'm not a happy person.

00:22:45.540 So, you get up at 4 o'clock

00:22:48.720 in the morning every day?

00:22:49.660 I do.

00:22:50.520 Every day?

00:22:51.120 Yeah, actually 4.30, but yeah.

00:22:53.280 Every day?

00:22:54.020 Yeah.

00:22:54.460 No sleeping in?

00:22:55.720 No.

00:22:56.320 Anybody in your life say,

00:22:57.620 shut up, I'm sleeping in?

00:23:00.500 I'm real quiet.

00:23:01.900 My wife does not get up

00:23:03.460 when I get up

00:23:04.080 and I'm very good and stealthy

00:23:06.160 about getting up

00:23:06.980 and getting out of bed.

00:23:07.760 Stealthy.

00:23:08.160 I bet you are stealthy.

00:23:09.320 Because I don't want to wake her up.

00:23:10.740 She has a different sleep pattern than me.

00:23:13.320 I was just with Tony Robbins

00:23:16.100 and he's quite ill.

00:23:20.860 He has mercury poisoning

00:23:22.100 and he's been quite ill

00:23:23.160 for quite some time.

00:23:25.120 And I watched him in his day

00:23:28.560 and he's amazing.

00:23:29.660 He's all wired up

00:23:30.660 so they can monitor

00:23:31.500 absolutely everything about him.

00:23:34.040 and he's burning 12,000 calories

00:23:36.960 a day when he's working.

00:23:39.520 And you'd never know he was sick.

00:23:42.860 Never know he's sick.

00:23:44.820 You see him maybe after

00:23:48.040 or right before

00:23:49.000 and you can tell

00:23:50.080 that something's not quite right.

00:23:52.780 And he gets up every morning

00:23:54.980 and he jumps into a pool

00:23:57.400 of I think 55 or 60 degree water

00:24:00.400 every day.

00:24:01.120 And he said

00:24:02.220 I don't do it

00:24:03.480 because I like it.

00:24:05.000 I do it

00:24:05.920 because I'm telling my body

00:24:07.600 I'm in charge of you.

00:24:10.240 And he said to me

00:24:12.080 at one point

00:24:13.000 he said

00:24:15.140 I'm Tony Robbins.

00:24:18.440 I built Tony Robbins.

00:24:20.800 This is the machine

00:24:22.320 that carries Tony Robbins around

00:24:24.800 and it works for me.

00:24:26.900 and

00:24:28.500 I remember

00:24:31.460 almost every day since

00:24:33.560 since then

00:24:34.620 I get up every morning

00:24:36.500 and I say

00:24:38.000 this works for me.

00:24:41.220 There is a difference.

00:24:43.520 Just that mindset

00:24:44.780 totally changes you.

00:24:48.080 Is that part of the thing

00:24:49.780 of getting up at 4 o'clock

00:24:51.080 in the morning

00:24:51.560 of I'm in charge

00:24:52.940 or have you always been

00:24:53.880 one of those people

00:24:55.140 at 4 o'clock?

00:24:55.880 I've not always been like that

00:24:57.540 but I will say this

00:24:59.580 from my perspective

00:25:00.720 when people ask me

00:25:01.460 all the time

00:25:01.860 I lack discipline

00:25:03.020 how can I get discipline

00:25:03.780 in my life

00:25:04.220 and no one wants

00:25:05.100 to hear this answer.

00:25:06.360 No one wants to hear it.

00:25:07.300 Just do it.

00:25:08.820 One of the first steps

00:25:10.380 you can take

00:25:10.960 to impose discipline

00:25:13.020 in your life

00:25:13.660 is to wake up

00:25:14.180 early in the morning

00:25:14.660 because let's face it

00:25:16.220 when the alarm goes off

00:25:17.400 you've got your head

00:25:19.660 on that soft pillow

00:25:20.520 it's all nice

00:25:21.740 and cozy

00:25:22.160 and warm in there

00:25:22.880 you do not feel

00:25:24.160 like getting up

00:25:24.920 and so you have to

00:25:26.280 He doesn't even have

00:25:26.580 a snooze alarm.

00:25:27.340 He doesn't ever

00:25:27.900 hit the snooze alarm.

00:25:28.500 And you should not.

00:25:29.960 You should not.

00:25:30.440 That snooze alarm is

00:25:31.320 That's insane.

00:25:32.280 I call that snooze alarm

00:25:33.220 the dream killer.

00:25:34.940 Like when you press

00:25:36.380 that snooze button

00:25:37.040 you're killing your dreams.

00:25:38.720 What?

00:25:40.040 So don't touch

00:25:41.640 the snooze button.

00:25:42.840 Now where I get

00:25:44.080 Now some would say

00:25:44.780 that might be

00:25:45.720 a little extreme.

00:25:48.280 No where people get worried

00:25:50.100 and people freak out

00:25:51.360 is sleep is healthy

00:25:53.740 sleep is good for you.

00:25:54.540 I know that I get it

00:25:55.500 and people say

00:25:56.320 you're telling people

00:25:56.880 not to sleep

00:25:57.400 and I'm not telling

00:25:57.940 people not to sleep.

00:25:58.680 You do six hours

00:25:59.380 every night.

00:25:59.900 10 o'clock.

00:26:00.500 Yeah I usually go to bed

00:26:01.460 around 10 30 11

00:26:02.300 and I wake up at 4 30

00:26:03.360 so I get five and a half

00:26:04.660 to six hours

00:26:05.260 almost every night

00:26:06.600 you know

00:26:07.160 and sometimes I tell people

00:26:09.100 I think sleeping is good.

00:26:11.320 I do it almost every single day

00:26:12.620 so but but people

00:26:14.040 will freak out

00:26:14.680 and say you're telling

00:26:15.300 people to be unhealthy.

00:26:15.980 I'm not saying that at all.

00:26:17.020 I'm not you know

00:26:17.480 if you need different people

00:26:18.660 are have different

00:26:19.840 genetic needs for sleep.

00:26:21.240 I'm one of those people

00:26:21.780 that doesn't need much

00:26:22.600 of my four kids.

00:26:24.700 My oldest daughter

00:26:25.340 needs even less sleep

00:26:26.880 than I do.

00:26:27.640 My middle daughter

00:26:28.200 sleeps more like my wife.

00:26:30.200 My son's somewhere

00:26:30.800 in the middle

00:26:31.200 which by the way

00:26:32.500 that means my middle daughter

00:26:33.540 she gets out of bed

00:26:34.340 when you get her out of bed

00:26:36.260 in the morning.

00:26:36.840 She likes to sleep.

00:26:38.040 So I'm not telling people

00:26:39.220 hey don't sleep

00:26:40.120 but I am saying

00:26:41.620 put yourself on a schedule

00:26:42.440 and you know you ask

00:26:43.200 why I don't sleep in.

00:26:44.280 If you sleep in

00:26:45.040 if I sleep in on a Saturday

00:26:46.740 until six o'clock

00:26:48.360 that night

00:26:49.700 I'm going to have more energy

00:26:51.340 and instead of going to bed

00:26:52.260 at 10, 30 or 11

00:26:53.840 I'm going to stay up

00:26:54.440 until midnight

00:26:54.880 because I got a little bit

00:26:55.980 of extra sleep.

00:26:57.320 Well now

00:26:57.920 that next day

00:26:59.340 I'm going to sleep

00:26:59.820 in a little bit more

00:27:00.320 and all of a sudden

00:27:00.760 Sunday I'm sleeping

00:27:01.400 in until seven o'clock.

00:27:02.660 Now Sunday night

00:27:03.480 I can't go to bed

00:27:04.020 until one o'clock

00:27:04.480 in the morning

00:27:04.760 and you see where

00:27:05.300 I'm going with this.

00:27:06.180 I go into Monday

00:27:07.040 with a lack of sleep

00:27:07.900 because I couldn't fall asleep.

00:27:08.560 The most important thing

00:27:10.380 is set a good wake up time

00:27:11.800 that works for you

00:27:12.520 where you get enough sleep

00:27:13.320 and then wake up

00:27:13.820 that time every day

00:27:14.440 if you can.

00:27:15.800 For a while

00:27:16.540 for about 10 years

00:27:17.480 my body only needed

00:27:18.840 about three hours of sleep.

00:27:20.920 There was nothing better.

00:27:22.580 There was nothing better.

00:27:23.480 Sleep is the biggest

00:27:24.360 waste of time ever.

00:27:26.420 You know

00:27:26.720 it's not something

00:27:27.740 you go to the doctor for.

00:27:29.560 You know

00:27:29.820 afterwards

00:27:30.480 because it did some damage

00:27:32.080 to my body

00:27:32.740 and afterwards

00:27:33.380 people were like

00:27:33.840 you didn't check that out.

00:27:34.900 I'm like why?

00:27:35.880 If you don't have to sleep

00:27:37.840 it's the greatest.

00:27:39.480 Yeah.

00:27:39.860 Yeah.

00:27:40.020 Because it is

00:27:41.260 there's no one working.

00:27:42.560 Nope.

00:27:42.880 There's no one to bother you.

00:27:44.160 It's completely

00:27:45.200 you're just

00:27:46.160 able to focus.

00:27:48.440 Yeah.

00:27:48.820 It's great to get up early

00:27:50.000 and you know

00:27:50.400 I always like to throw

00:27:51.460 this caveat in there as well.

00:27:53.560 I don't

00:27:54.080 I get up early

00:27:55.020 and it's a luxury for me.

00:27:56.440 You know

00:27:56.580 there's plenty of

00:27:57.680 single moms out there

00:27:59.460 that are getting up

00:28:00.340 at 3 o'clock in the morning

00:28:01.720 so they can do their first shift

00:28:02.880 at a diner

00:28:03.640 followed by going from there

00:28:04.980 to a daycare center

00:28:05.800 where they're working

00:28:06.720 followed by some other job

00:28:08.060 that they're doing

00:28:08.520 late at night

00:28:09.080 like that's

00:28:09.880 that's

00:28:10.620 so there's plenty of people

00:28:11.760 I'm not bragging

00:28:13.020 I sleep less

00:28:13.900 like no

00:28:14.240 there's plenty of people

00:28:14.900 that are working

00:28:15.680 harder than me

00:28:16.480 and getting after it

00:28:17.320 more than I am

00:28:17.880 and respect to them

00:28:19.060 and I hope they can

00:28:19.920 drive on with that

00:28:21.140 until they can get

00:28:21.960 to a point

00:28:22.320 where they can get

00:28:22.800 more sleep.

00:28:23.960 Ken

00:28:24.160 because you really

00:28:25.400 you're

00:28:26.060 I mean you're

00:28:26.940 a phenomenal leader

00:28:27.800 you know

00:28:28.660 with the SEAL teams

00:28:29.400 but you are now

00:28:30.800 an inspirational speaker

00:28:32.040 you've written books

00:28:32.860 on leadership

00:28:33.720 is

00:28:36.760 can everyone

00:28:37.520 be a leader

00:28:38.080 yes

00:28:41.380 with one exception

00:28:43.760 so

00:28:44.180 with one exception

00:28:45.580 and first I'll say

00:28:46.540 can everyone

00:28:47.040 be a leader

00:28:47.360 yes

00:28:47.580 everyone

00:28:47.920 everyone has

00:28:49.500 certain

00:28:50.260 innate capabilities

00:28:52.020 right

00:28:52.800 and

00:28:53.600 some of them

00:28:54.600 may be stronger

00:28:55.300 than others

00:28:55.820 and

00:28:56.900 some capabilities

00:28:57.780 that you have

00:28:58.420 tend to make you

00:28:59.620 a better leader

00:29:00.120 and there's

00:29:00.980 a bunch of them

00:29:01.960 right

00:29:02.380 so

00:29:02.940 you know

00:29:04.280 some people

00:29:04.800 are naturally

00:29:06.100 articulate

00:29:07.180 right

00:29:08.000 there's some people

00:29:08.440 that can

00:29:08.940 there's some people

00:29:09.780 that have a natural

00:29:10.580 level of confidence

00:29:11.380 those are really good

00:29:12.320 things to have

00:29:12.760 if you're a leader

00:29:13.180 some people can look

00:29:14.280 at complex problems

00:29:15.900 and they can

00:29:17.460 kind of simplify

00:29:19.060 those complex problems

00:29:20.580 and those are

00:29:21.100 very good skills

00:29:22.440 for a leader

00:29:23.540 to have

00:29:23.840 to be articulate

00:29:24.840 to be confident

00:29:25.560 to be able

00:29:25.980 to simplify things

00:29:26.760 those are great

00:29:27.220 skills for a leader

00:29:27.820 to have

00:29:28.060 and different

00:29:28.700 people have

00:29:29.340 different levels

00:29:30.100 of those skills

00:29:31.400 so

00:29:32.040 I'm sure

00:29:32.940 you've known

00:29:33.240 people in your life

00:29:33.860 that weren't

00:29:34.240 very articulate

00:29:34.800 they

00:29:35.280 okay

00:29:36.060 so they didn't

00:29:36.660 really get that skill

00:29:37.300 or some people

00:29:37.880 that lack confidence

00:29:38.560 and

00:29:39.080 they can be

00:29:40.200 super smart

00:29:40.840 they can even

00:29:41.660 be articulate

00:29:42.160 but they lack

00:29:42.640 confidence

00:29:43.100 there's some people

00:29:44.760 have you

00:29:45.120 it's

00:29:45.880 being able to

00:29:47.200 simplify

00:29:47.520 is a good skill

00:29:48.640 to have

00:29:48.900 but usually

00:29:49.500 people remember

00:29:50.400 instead of people

00:29:50.920 that were able

00:29:51.760 to simplify things

00:29:52.520 well

00:29:52.780 a lot of times

00:29:53.600 instead people

00:29:54.440 remember

00:29:54.860 individuals that

00:29:55.960 really make

00:29:56.480 things complicated

00:29:57.280 you ever work

00:29:58.460 with someone

00:29:58.720 that takes

00:29:59.120 something

00:29:59.580 and just

00:30:00.320 makes them

00:30:00.580 complicated

00:30:00.920 so

00:30:01.240 you're like

00:30:01.640 shut up

00:30:02.160 can we just

00:30:02.580 do it

00:30:02.920 yes

00:30:03.220 yes

00:30:03.500 so

00:30:04.200 those are

00:30:04.920 different

00:30:05.280 skill levels

00:30:06.100 that a human

00:30:06.720 being will have

00:30:07.440 and you got

00:30:08.220 born with

00:30:08.720 what you got

00:30:09.140 born with

00:30:09.480 and maybe

00:30:09.840 it got

00:30:10.120 nurtured a little

00:30:10.760 bit along the

00:30:11.380 way

00:30:11.560 it improved

00:30:12.340 a little bit

00:30:12.760 and so you

00:30:13.540 can take

00:30:13.940 those skills

00:30:14.480 and if you're

00:30:14.840 not very

00:30:15.280 articulate

00:30:15.680 you can

00:30:16.720 read

00:30:17.360 and you can

00:30:17.760 speak

00:30:18.120 and you can

00:30:18.580 write

00:30:19.100 and you can

00:30:19.620 become

00:30:20.080 more articulate

00:30:20.760 if you're

00:30:21.380 not very

00:30:21.720 confident

00:30:22.120 as you get

00:30:22.800 experience

00:30:23.320 and as you

00:30:23.880 go through

00:30:24.440 things in life

00:30:27.280 as you continue

00:30:28.500 as a leader

00:30:28.980 to look at

00:30:29.420 complex problems

00:30:30.000 you can get

00:30:30.480 better at

00:30:31.000 solving those

00:30:31.680 problems

00:30:32.000 and simplifying

00:30:32.560 them

00:30:32.740 so there's

00:30:33.320 ways to

00:30:33.940 improve

00:30:34.560 your

00:30:35.300 leadership

00:30:35.880 capability

00:30:36.460 and that's

00:30:37.340 what I do

00:30:37.720 for a living

00:30:38.080 is work

00:30:39.220 with companies

00:30:39.740 and work

00:30:40.000 with leaders

00:30:40.320 to improve

00:30:41.040 their leadership

00:30:41.460 capability

00:30:41.980 and that can

00:30:43.500 happen pretty

00:30:44.020 much across

00:30:44.460 the board

00:30:44.780 now the reason

00:30:46.240 there's a caveat

00:30:46.800 to that

00:30:47.260 is one of the

00:30:47.980 most important

00:30:48.560 characteristics

00:30:49.120 for a leader

00:30:49.720 to have

00:30:50.140 is humility

00:30:50.700 because if you

00:30:52.040 lack humility

00:30:52.600 well you don't

00:30:53.540 think you need

00:30:53.960 to be any more

00:30:54.420 articulate

00:30:54.740 because you know

00:30:55.880 you're already

00:30:56.320 good enough

00:30:56.820 and you don't

00:30:57.400 need team

00:30:57.760 members

00:30:57.980 you don't

00:30:58.400 even need

00:30:59.380 anyone to

00:31:00.000 give you

00:31:00.260 any input

00:31:00.640 because you

00:31:00.900 already know

00:31:01.160 everything

00:31:01.420 so the person

00:31:02.320 that lacks

00:31:03.400 humility

00:31:03.740 is not going

00:31:04.600 to become

00:31:05.500 any better

00:31:06.120 of a leader

00:31:06.820 you said

00:31:07.220 this in your

00:31:07.640 toxic masculinity

00:31:08.360 article too

00:31:11.760 about

00:31:12.080 if it's good

00:31:14.680 for a man

00:31:15.680 to be able

00:31:16.240 to control

00:31:17.100 his emotions

00:31:17.740 but if you're

00:31:18.380 emotionless

00:31:19.100 nobody wants

00:31:20.440 to follow

00:31:20.840 somebody who

00:31:21.400 doesn't feel

00:31:22.360 100% true

00:31:23.460 that's a great

00:31:24.280 example

00:31:24.620 so the

00:31:25.460 classic

00:31:26.080 the classic

00:31:27.260 masculine

00:31:27.880 trait

00:31:28.240 is to

00:31:29.680 have control

00:31:30.380 of your

00:31:30.580 emotions

00:31:30.900 does that

00:31:31.540 make you

00:31:31.820 a good

00:31:32.060 leader

00:31:32.220 yes

00:31:32.480 you don't

00:31:32.720 want a leader

00:31:33.200 that flies

00:31:33.780 off the

00:31:34.180 handle

00:31:34.480 you don't

00:31:34.940 want a leader

00:31:35.240 that loses

00:31:35.700 their temper

00:31:36.080 you don't

00:31:36.440 want a leader

00:31:36.780 that gets

00:31:37.240 completely distraught

00:31:38.460 and falls apart

00:31:39.140 if something bad

00:31:40.020 happens

00:31:40.420 no that's a

00:31:41.340 that's a bad

00:31:41.800 leader

00:31:42.080 that being

00:31:43.520 said

00:31:43.880 you don't

00:31:44.500 want a leader

00:31:45.080 that is

00:31:46.340 completely void

00:31:47.020 of emotions

00:31:47.500 and if you're

00:31:48.580 completely void

00:31:49.260 of emotions

00:31:49.760 you won't

00:31:51.140 connect with

00:31:51.700 your team

00:31:52.180 as a leader

00:31:52.760 you won't

00:31:53.100 connect with them

00:31:53.620 as a person

00:31:54.160 and if you don't

00:31:54.700 connect with your

00:31:55.180 team as a person

00:31:55.880 there's no bond

00:31:57.160 there's no bond

00:31:57.920 there's no team

00:31:58.560 there's no team

00:31:59.200 there's failure

00:31:59.800 it's interesting

00:32:00.800 because George

00:32:01.520 Washington was a

00:32:02.620 he's one of my

00:32:03.260 favorite leaders

00:32:04.080 and he was a

00:32:06.340 an unbelievably

00:32:07.380 complex man

00:32:08.540 with all kinds

00:32:09.640 of emotions

00:32:10.340 going on

00:32:11.000 but the only

00:32:11.800 time I ever

00:32:12.700 saw weakness

00:32:14.020 in him

00:32:14.740 was after he

00:32:16.000 lost New York

00:32:16.680 and he was

00:32:17.040 standing across

00:32:17.700 river and he's

00:32:18.440 looking at

00:32:19.320 Manhattan

00:32:19.760 and he

00:32:21.340 it's written

00:32:22.340 he wept

00:32:23.640 and the

00:32:25.920 people around

00:32:26.660 him all

00:32:27.940 of a sudden

00:32:28.340 flipped and

00:32:29.340 they were like

00:32:29.840 this guy

00:32:31.320 we are doomed

00:32:33.140 with this guy

00:32:34.600 and yet he was

00:32:36.380 able to turn

00:32:37.040 that around

00:32:37.740 and then get

00:32:39.440 everybody in

00:32:40.260 the boat

00:32:40.880 to go back

00:32:42.460 up and take

00:32:43.380 I've often

00:32:43.960 people don't

00:32:44.600 understand

00:32:45.240 the leadership

00:32:46.700 that that took

00:32:47.880 to get them

00:32:48.780 back into the

00:32:49.420 boat to take

00:32:50.120 on the

00:32:50.360 Hessians

00:32:50.660 that would

00:32:50.940 be like me

00:32:51.640 saying to

00:32:52.080 my fat

00:32:52.600 friends hey

00:32:53.160 let's go

00:32:53.500 take on

00:32:53.900 seal team

00:32:54.640 six we

00:32:55.660 wouldn't do

00:32:56.080 it we'd all

00:32:56.460 be dead

00:32:57.080 that's he

00:32:58.820 he had

00:32:59.840 something

00:33:00.620 that and

00:33:04.360 what is that

00:33:05.320 that x

00:33:05.960 factor where

00:33:06.680 a real leader

00:33:07.540 they say this

00:33:08.440 about Steve

00:33:08.940 Jobs could

00:33:09.840 look you in

00:33:10.320 the eye and

00:33:10.780 you'd be like

00:33:11.300 I'm not doing

00:33:12.020 that I'm not

00:33:12.700 doing it no

00:33:13.180 matter what he

00:33:13.560 says I'm not

00:33:14.100 doing it and

00:33:14.740 before you know

00:33:15.420 it you're walking

00:33:15.880 out of the office

00:33:16.480 going damn

00:33:17.300 right we're gonna

00:33:17.840 do it what is

00:33:19.600 that well

00:33:20.380 it's it's an

00:33:20.980 important part

00:33:21.580 point when you

00:33:22.480 make of that

00:33:22.840 about George

00:33:23.280 Washington and

00:33:24.260 that really

00:33:25.500 leaving New

00:33:27.080 York at that

00:33:27.620 time was an

00:33:28.420 escape was a

00:33:29.320 was a retreat

00:33:30.300 was a great

00:33:30.980 tactical move

00:33:31.840 and a lucky

00:33:32.420 one because the

00:33:33.220 fog rolled in

00:33:33.920 and it was a

00:33:34.860 lucky one but

00:33:35.720 if he would have

00:33:36.600 stayed there they

00:33:37.100 would have really

00:33:37.780 suffered some

00:33:38.360 significant it

00:33:39.280 would have been

00:33:39.500 it would have

00:33:39.860 been massive

00:33:40.280 defeat yeah it

00:33:41.120 probably could

00:33:41.560 have been over

00:33:41.900 it could have

00:33:42.340 been over so

00:33:43.860 now if you think

00:33:44.720 about it from

00:33:45.440 you're a trooper

00:33:46.540 you're a trooper

00:33:47.980 and you're

00:33:49.060 looking at this

00:33:49.580 guy if this

00:33:50.360 guy walks out

00:33:51.040 of there after

00:33:51.740 this and he

00:33:52.740 has no emotions

00:33:53.500 and he says

00:33:55.460 don't worry about

00:33:56.900 it gents you

00:33:58.200 just you just

00:33:58.680 got defeated you

00:33:59.340 know you just

00:33:59.700 had to run away

00:34:00.660 right and this

00:34:01.360 guy is acting

00:34:02.060 like it didn't

00:34:02.480 happen now

00:34:03.520 weeping and

00:34:04.480 crying that might

00:34:05.100 be a little bit

00:34:05.600 much right might

00:34:06.480 be a little bit

00:34:06.860 much in fact it

00:34:07.420 probably was but

00:34:08.000 at the same time

00:34:08.780 if you showed no

00:34:10.120 emotions it's not

00:34:11.200 enough there is

00:34:13.120 something about I

00:34:14.240 mean and I

00:34:15.120 don't know how

00:34:15.520 much of this is

00:34:16.140 legend I I

00:34:17.100 happen to believe

00:34:17.980 the stories

00:34:18.500 because they're

00:34:18.880 so universal

00:34:19.740 but there is

00:34:21.260 something about

00:34:21.820 him white you

00:34:22.760 know riding a

00:34:23.980 big white horse

00:34:25.560 towards the front

00:34:27.040 almost in a

00:34:27.760 braveheart sort

00:34:28.540 of fashion going

00:34:29.380 come on let's

00:34:30.860 go that the

00:34:32.820 troops that

00:34:33.920 followed him

00:34:34.720 after horse

00:34:35.440 after horse

00:34:36.060 after horse

00:34:36.600 was shot out

00:34:37.300 from underneath

00:34:37.960 him and he

00:34:39.040 walks off the

00:34:39.620 battlefield every

00:34:40.200 time that it

00:34:41.760 gave them this

00:34:43.420 invincibility

00:34:47.060 almost or this

00:34:47.920 conviction that

00:34:49.900 no no no we're

00:34:51.200 moving for there's

00:34:52.120 a force here

00:34:53.240 well when a

00:34:55.440 human being

00:34:56.080 looks at another

00:34:57.400 human being that

00:34:58.760 is willing to

00:35:00.560 sacrifice and in

00:35:02.940 that case willing to

00:35:03.740 sacrifice everything

00:35:04.580 that is when we

00:35:07.120 see that as people

00:35:08.240 when you see

00:35:08.700 someone that's

00:35:09.100 willing to

00:35:09.440 sacrifice and and

00:35:11.080 I was lucky

00:35:12.520 enough to work

00:35:13.460 with guys and

00:35:14.580 see guys

00:35:15.340 sacrifice their

00:35:18.020 lives for the

00:35:20.520 cause the cause

00:35:21.620 of freedom for

00:35:22.480 the cause of

00:35:23.040 trying to help

00:35:23.960 you know I was

00:35:24.980 in in Iraq

00:35:26.160 trying to help

00:35:27.040 these Iraqi

00:35:28.000 people escape

00:35:29.620 from this

00:35:30.380 evil evil

00:35:33.520 insurgency and

00:35:34.300 evil isn't even

00:35:35.480 a strong enough

00:35:36.340 word this

00:35:37.100 sadistic evil

00:35:39.080 subhuman

00:35:40.300 insurgency

00:35:41.180 that was

00:35:42.060 raping

00:35:42.860 torturing

00:35:43.620 murdering

00:35:44.400 skinning people

00:35:45.680 alive that's

00:35:46.640 that's what the

00:35:47.220 city of Ramadi

00:35:47.960 was under

00:35:49.180 and I don't

00:35:50.960 think I've heard

00:35:51.480 the skinning

00:35:52.060 oh yes

00:35:53.120 skinning people

00:35:53.980 alive beheading

00:35:54.840 beheading the

00:35:55.700 head of the

00:35:56.040 family so

00:35:56.540 oh the the

00:35:57.800 insurgents think

00:35:58.780 that this

00:35:59.300 family or this

00:36:01.040 father had been

00:36:02.180 working with

00:36:02.720 coalition or

00:36:03.220 helping coalition

00:36:03.720 forces cool what

00:36:04.740 we're gonna do is

00:36:05.220 we're gonna go in

00:36:05.560 that night we're

00:36:05.960 gonna murder the

00:36:06.340 whole family we're

00:36:07.080 gonna put their

00:36:07.420 heads out in front

00:36:08.000 of the in front

00:36:08.660 of the house so

00:36:09.600 everyone knows

00:36:10.160 what's gonna

00:36:10.520 happen to you

00:36:11.040 and but all

00:36:13.980 that being said

00:36:14.560 this is this is

00:36:15.380 not our country

00:36:15.960 right but there

00:36:17.520 was Americans

00:36:18.660 that were willing

00:36:20.280 to sacrifice

00:36:21.560 their lives to

00:36:23.280 try and help

00:36:24.000 these people move

00:36:25.480 towards freedom

00:36:26.340 and move away

00:36:27.480 from that

00:36:27.820 oppression so

00:36:28.720 when you see

00:36:29.600 that and you

00:36:30.420 know my my

00:36:31.020 task unit in in

00:36:32.280 the battle of

00:36:32.680 Ramadi we would

00:36:33.320 go to memorial

00:36:34.440 services of the

00:36:36.160 army soldiers of

00:36:37.360 the Marines

00:36:37.860 that were killed

00:36:39.180 in action and

00:36:40.740 when you see

00:36:43.380 that level of

00:36:44.100 sacrifice and you

00:36:46.880 see someone

00:36:47.740 willing to make

00:36:48.640 that sacrifice it

00:36:49.700 absolutely reassures

00:36:51.300 you that you're on

00:36:52.380 the right path and

00:36:53.360 you're doing the

00:36:53.860 right thing

00:36:54.300 you worked with

00:36:56.840 Chris Kyle

00:36:57.480 indeed who was a

00:36:59.680 remarkable man

00:37:00.620 indeed

00:37:01.200 I was so humbled

00:37:07.660 by him I I had

00:37:10.320 it's one of the

00:37:10.960 biggest regrets of

00:37:11.640 my life I'm not

00:37:13.140 good around people

00:37:14.140 like you because

00:37:16.080 you do things that

00:37:19.600 I just don't I

00:37:20.800 just I mean I'm

00:37:21.900 afraid to find out

00:37:23.380 if I always see

00:37:25.420 myself as and I

00:37:26.880 in the worst way

00:37:28.060 in the worst way

00:37:29.040 if I my my

00:37:30.380 worst nightmare is

00:37:31.760 that scene in

00:37:32.840 Saving Private Ryan

00:37:33.740 you don't watch

00:37:34.160 movies did you

00:37:34.720 watch no that's

00:37:35.680 that's a movie you

00:37:36.360 have to watch

00:37:36.800 okay so remember

00:37:38.160 the guy on the

00:37:39.060 stairs who's

00:37:39.800 practically wetting

00:37:40.680 his pants and he

00:37:41.500 just couldn't do

00:37:42.060 anything he froze

00:37:42.760 that's my worst

00:37:44.060 nightmare of me

00:37:45.100 that I would get

00:37:45.940 into that situation

00:37:46.840 and I would let

00:37:47.500 my team down

00:37:48.260 because I would

00:37:48.700 just be paralyzed

00:37:49.360 because it's I

00:37:50.280 can't imagine

00:37:51.500 what war is like

00:37:53.060 I just can't

00:37:54.120 imagine it and I

00:37:55.120 don't think it

00:37:55.780 feels like it does

00:37:56.820 in a movie theater

00:37:57.600 I could be wrong

00:37:58.700 and I stood next

00:38:01.700 to Chris for

00:38:03.220 about five

00:38:03.820 minutes and I

00:38:06.060 so wanted to say

00:38:06.780 hello to him and

00:38:07.580 I felt I felt

00:38:11.320 silly that I

00:38:13.160 didn't you know

00:38:14.160 that I just I

00:38:14.860 was paralyzed I

00:38:15.560 just was like who

00:38:17.800 am I to even say

00:38:18.480 hello to him and

00:38:20.220 I really regret

00:38:20.860 that but as you

00:38:25.620 look at people

00:38:26.680 like you any

00:38:27.960 really any of

00:38:28.840 these guys that

00:38:29.540 are coming home

00:38:30.120 you're I don't

00:38:34.760 think people

00:38:35.260 understand it

00:38:36.360 maybe it's just

00:38:37.260 me I don't think

00:38:38.260 people understand

00:38:39.120 that when you're

00:38:40.260 there you're

00:38:42.620 fighting for

00:38:43.560 something bigger

00:38:45.100 unless you're a

00:38:46.280 psycho you're doing

00:38:48.900 something that you

00:38:49.680 believe is really

00:38:51.160 important it is

00:38:52.740 life and death

00:38:54.020 all the time

00:38:55.300 or at least in

00:38:56.400 the active times

00:38:57.280 and then you

00:38:58.560 come home and

00:38:59.660 this must seem

00:39:01.420 like a play

00:39:04.160 that this is

00:39:06.040 little kids

00:39:07.560 second grade

00:39:08.580 time we're

00:39:09.480 arguing about

00:39:10.340 statues and

00:39:11.460 we're arguing

00:39:12.620 about stupid

00:39:14.420 stuff that makes

00:39:15.280 no sense

00:39:16.380 how do you

00:39:18.260 go from

00:39:19.540 that

00:39:22.260 doing

00:39:24.160 something

00:39:24.860 noble

00:39:25.700 and being a

00:39:27.340 part of something

00:39:28.000 important to

00:39:28.700 coming here and

00:39:29.720 being surrounded by

00:39:30.540 people who are

00:39:31.220 like I am just

00:39:32.640 so offended by the

00:39:34.260 words that you're

00:39:34.940 using right now

00:39:35.900 this is toxic

00:39:37.140 and and I'm

00:39:39.060 triggered

00:39:39.460 well

00:39:42.020 war

00:39:44.020 war

00:39:46.020 will put

00:39:47.760 things in

00:39:48.160 perspective for

00:39:48.800 you and

00:39:50.440 has to

00:39:50.940 and that's why

00:39:51.980 I think a lot

00:39:53.360 of I get

00:39:54.940 asked about war

00:39:55.820 and one of the

00:39:56.320 things that I've

00:39:57.080 said many times

00:39:58.000 about war is

00:39:58.840 that I think

00:40:00.660 war makes you

00:40:01.180 better right

00:40:02.000 of course

00:40:02.840 is it awful

00:40:03.980 and horrible

00:40:04.680 yes absolutely

00:40:05.880 but it will

00:40:07.080 make you a

00:40:07.640 better person

00:40:08.180 and I had a

00:40:09.140 conversation with

00:40:09.860 with a guy

00:40:10.520 who said

00:40:11.780 he was interviewing

00:40:12.780 me and he

00:40:14.000 said you know

00:40:15.420 I hear you say

00:40:16.120 that war is

00:40:17.380 awful and

00:40:18.280 horrible and

00:40:18.800 all these things

00:40:19.480 and then I've

00:40:20.800 also heard you

00:40:21.340 say that it's

00:40:22.480 the it's the

00:40:23.260 highlight of

00:40:23.920 your life

00:40:24.320 the best times

00:40:25.460 of your life

00:40:25.980 were in war

00:40:27.380 which is

00:40:27.840 absolutely true

00:40:28.720 has to be

00:40:29.280 and and it

00:40:31.840 has to be could

00:40:32.280 we just want to

00:40:32.880 spend a second

00:40:33.500 on that I think

00:40:34.460 it would have to

00:40:34.900 be because you

00:40:35.940 are the most

00:40:36.780 alive at that

00:40:38.460 point right

00:40:39.060 there's no

00:40:40.320 other thing

00:40:41.260 that will make

00:40:42.340 you as

00:40:43.100 completely

00:40:44.280 crystal

00:40:45.080 crystalline

00:40:46.220 focused on

00:40:47.620 anything

00:40:48.200 other than

00:40:49.280 war

00:40:49.660 there's bad

00:40:50.940 guys that you

00:40:52.580 are trying to

00:40:53.060 kill and they

00:40:53.620 are trying to

00:40:54.040 kill you

00:40:54.420 you you can't

00:40:55.700 get any more

00:40:56.180 focused than

00:40:57.120 that right there

00:40:57.900 when I had

00:40:59.920 this conversation

00:41:00.740 and I have

00:41:02.440 also said you

00:41:03.060 know that the

00:41:03.780 best times of

00:41:04.360 my life

00:41:04.780 hands down

00:41:06.500 the best time

00:41:07.160 of my life

00:41:07.820 up to this

00:41:08.360 point

00:41:08.600 was being

00:41:10.600 the task

00:41:11.240 unit commander

00:41:11.660 in the battle

00:41:12.060 of Ramadi

00:41:12.360 without question

00:41:13.280 the worst

00:41:14.160 times of my

00:41:14.900 life

00:41:15.200 also were

00:41:16.780 being the

00:41:18.160 task unit

00:41:18.580 commander in

00:41:18.960 the battle

00:41:19.240 of Ramadi

00:41:19.600 by the way

00:41:21.280 thank you

00:41:22.880 it was an

00:41:24.480 honor it was

00:41:25.180 an honor to

00:41:25.620 serve

00:41:25.920 the

00:41:27.140 the thing

00:41:30.480 that I came

00:41:31.120 away with and

00:41:31.680 where I ended

00:41:32.120 up in this

00:41:32.500 conversation with

00:41:33.320 this interview

00:41:34.400 that I was

00:41:34.780 doing was I

00:41:36.920 asked him I

00:41:37.440 said have you

00:41:37.800 ever known

00:41:38.600 anyone that's

00:41:39.740 had cancer

00:41:40.840 and bad

00:41:43.380 cancer and

00:41:44.440 they survived

00:41:44.960 it and of

00:41:46.120 course he said

00:41:46.520 yes and I

00:41:47.940 said what do

00:41:49.220 those people

00:41:49.680 say about

00:41:50.160 cancer

00:41:50.560 oftentimes

00:41:51.500 they say

00:41:53.280 I'm glad I

00:41:54.840 had it

00:41:55.320 I'm I'm it

00:41:56.380 taught me

00:41:57.020 wouldn't go

00:41:57.660 through it

00:41:58.080 again and I

00:41:58.640 wouldn't wish

00:41:59.180 it on people

00:41:59.820 I wouldn't go

00:42:00.460 through it again

00:42:01.040 I wouldn't wish

00:42:01.800 it on anyone

00:42:02.440 but I'm glad

00:42:03.940 I went through

00:42:04.860 it and that's

00:42:07.360 the same with

00:42:07.780 war why is

00:42:08.560 that because it

00:42:09.180 puts things in

00:42:09.820 perspective it

00:42:10.860 makes you realize

00:42:11.680 that there's

00:42:12.160 little things

00:42:13.080 little petty

00:42:13.860 things in the

00:42:14.340 world that do

00:42:15.440 not matter

00:42:16.280 and war

00:42:17.340 there's there's

00:42:18.880 nothing better

00:42:20.640 than the

00:42:23.460 sunrise in a

00:42:25.360 in a free

00:42:25.860 country or

00:42:27.560 walking down

00:42:28.680 the street

00:42:29.060 walking your

00:42:29.720 daughter to

00:42:30.140 school it

00:42:31.240 doesn't get any

00:42:31.800 better to that

00:42:32.280 than that and

00:42:33.400 when you've been

00:42:33.840 to war and you

00:42:34.620 see the sacrifices

00:42:35.800 that were made

00:42:36.360 and you see how

00:42:37.100 so much of the

00:42:37.920 rest of the

00:42:38.320 world lives they

00:42:39.960 don't have that

00:42:40.540 opportunity to be

00:42:42.100 able to walk

00:42:42.580 down the street

00:42:43.180 with your little

00:42:43.960 girl and take

00:42:44.860 her to school

00:42:45.320 it it's it's

00:42:47.540 it puts things

00:42:48.880 in such stark

00:42:50.300 perspective you

00:42:51.740 realize how

00:42:53.720 lucky we are to

00:42:54.680 be here how

00:42:55.220 lucky we are to

00:42:56.040 be in this

00:42:56.420 country and you

00:42:58.840 also realize that

00:43:00.560 it is a sin it

00:43:03.900 is a sin to

00:43:05.120 squander these

00:43:06.260 opportunities that

00:43:06.960 we have

00:43:07.360 i think history

00:43:24.120 is going to

00:43:25.000 study this time

00:43:26.100 period like we

00:43:27.700 are going to be

00:43:28.340 under the

00:43:28.940 microscope as

00:43:30.540 much i think as

00:43:31.460 our founding

00:43:32.060 era was if we

00:43:34.680 survive this

00:43:35.600 period of time

00:43:36.920 we will be

00:43:38.600 known as the

00:43:39.340 greatest generation

00:43:40.240 maybe perhaps of

00:43:41.480 all time because

00:43:42.180 no no country

00:43:44.260 has come back

00:43:45.060 from where we

00:43:46.280 are right now

00:43:47.000 in a million

00:43:47.840 different ways

00:43:48.620 but i believe we

00:43:50.260 can do it

00:43:51.360 but if we fail

00:43:53.220 at this point

00:43:54.020 we are going to

00:43:55.340 be we're going

00:43:56.080 to be looked at

00:43:56.920 as we were

00:43:57.560 insane we were

00:43:59.820 insane you

00:44:01.620 wait they had

00:44:02.760 what what was

00:44:04.560 just over the

00:44:06.060 horizon and

00:44:07.640 they did what

00:44:09.280 with it

00:44:10.040 well i think it

00:44:12.080 would follow like

00:44:12.860 a a spoiled

00:44:15.160 child who

00:44:16.560 inherits you

00:44:18.340 know a hundred

00:44:19.360 million dollars

00:44:20.040 from their from

00:44:21.180 their father or

00:44:22.140 their mother and

00:44:23.480 what do they do

00:44:23.900 with it well they

00:44:25.000 end up getting

00:44:26.440 addicted to drugs

00:44:27.260 and being losers

00:44:28.220 and spending all

00:44:28.960 the money and

00:44:29.480 they end up in

00:44:30.020 the gutter or

00:44:30.940 you see young

00:44:32.180 hollywood child

00:44:34.100 stars what

00:44:35.020 happens to them

00:44:35.600 often they get

00:44:37.020 all that freedom

00:44:37.980 they get all that

00:44:38.900 liberty they get

00:44:40.140 all that money

00:44:41.080 they can do

00:44:42.020 whatever they want

00:44:42.760 and what do they

00:44:43.360 do with it they

00:44:44.320 end up in the

00:44:45.500 gutter and yeah

00:44:46.980 could that happen

00:44:47.620 to our country

00:44:48.200 absolutely it's

00:44:49.600 the it's it's

00:44:50.620 usually the third

00:44:51.440 generation of wealth

00:44:52.560 first one makes it

00:44:54.660 the second one

00:44:56.660 kind of lives off it

00:44:58.540 and the third

00:44:59.640 loses everything

00:45:00.620 yeah we're three

00:45:02.400 generations really

00:45:03.360 away from world

00:45:04.140 war ii where

00:45:05.980 uh my grandfather

00:45:08.340 was world war ii

00:45:09.720 eric great

00:45:10.180 depression worked

00:45:11.300 hard man they

00:45:12.220 saved every

00:45:14.120 scrap my

00:45:14.900 grandmother would

00:45:15.680 not throw away a

00:45:16.640 piece of fabric

00:45:18.280 that was this big

00:45:19.320 she had a place

00:45:20.360 for it you know

00:45:21.180 my mother was

00:45:22.780 kind of like that

00:45:23.520 we saved all the

00:45:24.340 wrapping paper every

00:45:25.400 christmas now

00:45:26.980 yeah too much

00:45:31.520 freedom and i know

00:45:33.360 that's that's that's

00:45:34.460 the so i wrote a

00:45:35.440 book called

00:45:35.920 too much freedom

00:45:36.760 without too much

00:45:37.480 freedom without any

00:45:38.800 price well it's

00:45:40.280 discipline so i wrote

00:45:41.440 the book discipline

00:45:41.940 equals freedom and i

00:45:42.620 wrote that for a

00:45:44.780 personal level right

00:45:45.600 hey if you're an

00:45:46.440 individual if you're

00:45:47.700 an individual and all

00:45:48.780 you do is whatever

00:45:49.420 you want to do where

00:45:50.120 you're gonna end up

00:45:50.660 you're gonna end up

00:45:51.260 in the gutter you

00:45:52.180 have to have

00:45:52.880 discipline in your

00:45:53.540 life and if if you

00:45:55.340 don't understand that

00:45:56.180 and if you have

00:45:57.000 discipline you'll end

00:45:57.900 up with more freedom

00:45:58.500 if you just if you

00:45:59.540 just have freedom you'll

00:46:00.920 end up in the gutter

00:46:01.560 you'll end up being a

00:46:02.260 slave you'll end up

00:46:03.600 being a slave to

00:46:04.820 your addictions you'll

00:46:05.780 end up being a slave to

00:46:07.280 whatever your choices

00:46:09.020 your ramifications if

00:46:10.880 you have discipline in

00:46:11.660 your life you will end

00:46:13.420 up with freedom you'll

00:46:14.680 end up with financial

00:46:15.440 freedom you'll end up

00:46:16.000 with more free time

00:46:16.680 you'll end up with the

00:46:17.320 things that you want in

00:46:18.160 the world and it the

00:46:19.600 same thing can be said

00:46:20.740 on a national level you

00:46:23.100 know if you if you take

00:46:24.280 a country and you just give them so much freedom and they don't exercise discipline then it can go

00:46:33.660 it can go really badly rome how's this gonna go for us i think we'll be all right i think we'll

00:46:48.860 be all right i think that the will and the spirit of the american people once awoken will overcome all

00:46:58.960 i come from an alcoholic family um my bottom was just kind of losing everything

00:47:07.180 my mother's bottom was suicide uh i i think alcoholics recovering alcoholics are the

00:47:18.220 secret to us in recovery as a country if we just admit that there's a problem just start there

00:47:25.360 admit that there's a problem um and surrender and then just do all the things to put it all back

00:47:31.340 right we could save our country i just keep wondering what is our bottom yeah that's that's

00:47:39.860 a great question and that's what i was about to say is you know we're fighting these wars

00:47:43.280 and we've got you know kids over in iraq in afghanistan and syria and they're they're in war

00:47:51.920 and they've never known an america without war yep yep and meanwhile back here there's there's

00:47:59.540 no effect whatsoever on the american populace there's no rationing there's no they're still

00:48:05.660 they're still driving around in a you don't even know it's still going on you know it's still going

00:48:09.520 on and so so as long as that's happening as long as american day-to-day life isn't really impacted

00:48:15.860 guess what we're kind of going with the flow hey what you know it's it's all good when something

00:48:20.340 impacts us in a way where everyday american life is truly impacted that's when i think the american

00:48:26.400 the true american spirit will be awoken and we'll get back together and we'll say oh there's there's

00:48:34.720 something much worse out there that we need to fight against can i ask a question i've been really

00:48:39.940 wrestling with on i'm a i'm a big tech guy um and in particular excuse me in particular ai

00:48:48.480 ai is um wonderful it's making our life wonderful um i don't like the idea of agi artificial general

00:49:00.540 intelligence i don't like the idea if we get to that point of turning over the keys to artificial

00:49:06.880 intelligence to kill people i like having a drone where we're not putting people in harm's way

00:49:13.660 but a human has to push the final button however with that being said

00:49:19.160 war without human cost on the side of the the might and the fighting

00:49:30.160 also scares me because it becomes a video game and there is no cost to it there is no

00:49:38.540 war made you a better man if it's a video game and i'm just controlling it from someplace else

00:49:47.460 what does that do to the soul

00:49:50.500 you could say the same thing about hunting for food right you know we it was a

00:50:00.140 time where you had to hunt for it you couldn't just you couldn't just click a button on your

00:50:05.900 phone and have it show up at your house which is what's happening right now that's happening right

00:50:10.220 now yeah you press a button and that food yeah that's more gonna show up that's more my style

00:50:16.420 than yours right right right but it's the same thing right i mean you're gonna you're gonna lose

00:50:21.220 some level of of humanity right some level of understanding of humanity if it's machine

00:50:28.780 versus machine now believe me i'm all pro machine let's let we want to have robot wars and settle it

00:50:32.520 that way let's do it all day long actually and when you take it to the next step it's not actually

00:50:37.300 going to be in my opinion robots versus robots just going to be cyber it's going to be cyber war

00:50:41.060 i wish we i wish trump would have created the the cyber the cyber service instead of space because

00:50:46.740 i think that's more important big time and now there's obviously there's big cyber warfare groups

00:50:53.560 inside of our current military branches but let's just create a branch because that's where the next

00:50:58.220 battlefield's going to be in fact that's where the next battlefield is right now so will we lose some

00:51:04.260 level of it yeah sure is that bad probably in some way there's also some benefits to it there's

00:51:10.080 there's there's no there's no glory there's no glory in war or at least i should say there's

00:51:15.920 very limited glory in war there is very limited glory in war there is something that does hit you when

00:51:21.680 you are lucky enough to be a part of it that does make you better

00:51:25.840 the nazis or the isis mentality which was more evil

00:51:39.640 i mean now looking at the two of them are they the same cut from exactly the same cloth or they're

00:51:45.300 they're both they're both the same as far as i'm concerned in terms of level of being evil they're

00:51:51.440 the same and you know the the japanese imperial army same right there rape a nan king let's have a look

00:51:58.620 at that you know isis isis systematically raping 10 year old girls and boys yeah let's let's just put

00:52:09.240 them all in the same bucket as far as i'm concerned who says wipe the earth of them all americans hurt

00:52:13.920 americans have their problems they're just the same americans we do have problems we've made mistakes

00:52:19.480 you know we've we've done things that are horrible and awful absolutely you know i i've covered a lot of

00:52:25.380 that on my podcast i covered i covered the myai masker on my podcast and even my dad who is a very

00:52:33.080 pro-american conservative guy when he listened to my podcast on the myai masker he said i didn't and

00:52:41.120 my dad by the way is a history teacher his whole life and the smartest guy i've ever known and he said

00:52:45.080 you know when i i always thought that the myai masker was kind of like a liberal media spin to make

00:52:53.340 us look bad and i said no dad it wasn't it was bad it was bad leadership and it was human beings

00:53:01.180 being led in the wrong direction because human beings can be led big time and they had a little

00:53:07.460 frightening how how that line is it's more than a little frightening it's horribly frightening yeah

00:53:14.000 that particular as i did that podcast i was as i was going through i was thinking myself what's the

00:53:20.460 what's the what's the lesson from this what is the lesson from this these these this company of

00:53:26.180 u.s army soldiers who by the way were the most there's the cross-section of america normal guys

00:53:31.960 they go in they rape torture murder mutilate about 500 vietnamese old men women and children

00:53:41.440 the lesson from it was as all this was happening as these guys just went in the darkest most horrible

00:53:50.440 direction there was a helicopter pilot which i'm sure you've heard helicopter pilot saw what was

00:53:54.540 happening he intervened to save some of the vietnamese villagers he flew back to base he told

00:54:00.360 the commander what was going on he said look these guys are are murdering people the commander got on

00:54:04.980 the radio called the company in the field and say said stop killing people and they stopped

00:54:10.600 immediately they stopped immediately all it took was one leader to step up and say stop what you're

00:54:17.280 doing what you're doing is wrong and everyone stopped that is the power of leadership and by

00:54:22.700 the way what got them into that mess in the first place was a bad leader leading them in the wrong

00:54:27.160 direction so when bad things are happening what you need is leadership and when leadership steps up to

00:54:33.640 move people in the right direction human beings want to do the right thing but it's very easy to get

00:54:38.640 drawn into that dark place so yes has america done horrible things absolutely did did we do things that

00:54:46.280 we should we it would be great if we could undo them absolutely in every war yes it happens but

00:54:53.720 to say that america's evil or say that you know we don't look back at those things and admit that

00:54:58.740 they're wrong and how do we correct them and how do we make sure that they never happen again

00:55:01.680 you know the the problem is is that i think your father is very um is very average american we

00:55:10.020 have split american history into two pieces it's either all bad or it's all flags and apple pie it's not

00:55:18.960 it's winston churchill it's both he was a monster in india and he was great in europe it's both it's which

00:55:28.860 way are we headed yeah i tried to get people to um the medal of honor

00:55:39.800 is so tainted and there's no reason why we should not pull these medals back at this point because of

00:55:50.820 every single soldier in wounded knee at wounded knee got a congressional medal of honor that was

00:56:01.740 more medals awarded there than any battle of world war ii that's what popped out in the history book

00:56:07.780 to me i looked at that and i went something is really wrong there or something superhuman happened

00:56:16.880 it was wrong and i just am so offended because i believe in the honor of the people who are

00:56:25.500 receiving that medal and many of them turned it down they got rid of it at the end they knew

00:56:30.720 this was wrong well the medal at that time was i i believe at that time it was actually the only

00:56:42.180 medal for valor there was i i'm pretty sure and that that at that time that was the only so so now

00:56:48.860 you've got a wide array of medals for valor you've got the commendation medal with a v for valor you've

00:56:55.280 got an achievement medal with v for valor you've got the bronze star with a v for value you've got the

00:57:00.020 silver star you've got the the navy cross the the distinguished service cross and then you've got

00:57:04.780 the medal of honor so at that time these guys fought they wanted to recognize their bravery in

00:57:10.620 that situation and there they gave them all the same medal um it's yeah it's so so revoke it yeah that

00:57:19.460 that might be a good call the medal of honor should be you know it is what it is it is what it is and

00:57:26.460 it should be honorable yeah should be honorable i mean um my one of my guys michael monsoor you know

00:57:34.580 that's that's what the medal of honor is to me you know he he jumped on a grenade to save three of

00:57:42.640 our other teammates and that's the medal of honor as far as i'm concerned

00:57:49.340 so you were in seal team one two and three you weren't good enough to get to six one i was at

00:58:16.260 seal team one seal team two seal team seven and seal team three why not six dev group i mean

00:58:22.180 uh i just i'm kidding i'm kidding i'm kidding everybody seems to think that seal team six is

00:58:29.960 like that's like that's the thing but the seal teams are are broken up by region and they're also by

00:58:38.580 uh i don't want to say skill but what they're good at they're not all the same

00:58:46.060 right for a while when i first came in they were not they had different regions we were assigned

00:58:52.140 geographically so different seal teams were assigned to different parts of the world right and then as

00:58:58.060 later on around 2000s they they started to change it where every seal team was pretty much the same

00:59:05.000 and they would we would deploy to the same places and so there's that that's the way it is now

00:59:13.640 and then what you're talking about uh developmental group they are guys that get selected from the

00:59:19.060 seal teams and go through more training and have an incredible amount of assets and they're

00:59:23.440 incredibly skilled guys which is the seal team is there a seal team and don't tell me if you have

00:59:27.460 to kill me afterwards it don't we have a seal team that um is is operational here to make sure

00:59:38.020 they're constantly testing our infrastructure they're testing our uh see if they can have if

00:59:45.300 they can get into our financial services you know they can if they can hack in they know others can so

00:59:52.300 they they make sure that they expose any flaws in our services is that true

00:59:58.360 okay all right what you're probably referring to is um there's a book called rogue warrior which was

01:00:07.180 written by a guy named uh dick marsinko and he had an element that was called red cell and it's in

01:00:15.620 the book that's why i'm talking about this he had an element called red cell which would go out and

01:00:20.260 test the security of of of bases you know around the world and in america you know military bases

01:00:28.420 also became kind of a it's a normal thing it's a normal thing now people use that term so to think

01:00:35.140 that america wouldn't red cell our security right now all the time of course we're of course we're

01:00:39.940 going to how concerned are you on things like emp

01:00:43.140 i think i think it's a concern that you have to be at least somewhat concerned there's no there's um

01:00:52.900 a book written in the 1960s by carol quigley and he said all this all the the um the safeguards that

01:01:00.380 we've built for mutually assured destruction all going to be it's all going to be great unless

01:01:06.080 there's an unflagged cave dwelling society that doesn't care about all of the systems and that

01:01:15.120 seemed crazy in the 1960s 70s 80s 90s until today that kind of seems like you know when it comes to

01:01:23.420 throwing rocks at each other they're probably better at throwing rocks than we are they can survive

01:01:28.780 that you know in conditions that most americans i don't know you've been you've been to montana

01:01:33.680 you've been to wyoming you've been to minnesota yeah yeah okay all right i mean california people

01:01:39.680 think california is like pay watch but yeah yeah you're in texas yeah i mean i'm not too concerned

01:01:44.600 about our our someone trying to take over our country that's actually yeah come on down to texas

01:01:52.020 come on yeah you know there was never i've heard this i don't know you might know there was never

01:01:58.500 any plan from the former soviet union to invade america through texas no that'd be a bad call

01:02:06.640 yeah it'd be a bad call because everybody had guns and and everybody would defend it yeah and you know

01:02:11.580 it's the same thing i mean you look at every state you know the california of course everyone thinks

01:02:15.460 of california what do you think of you think of bay watch and you think of uh silicon valley

01:02:19.320 what is california california's farms it's massive farms it's hard-working americans that that are

01:02:27.600 they're they're freedom-loving people in california they don't they don't they might not be the

01:02:33.380 majority they might might not live in those cities they might not get the vote out there but that's

01:02:37.400 that's what it is and the whole country's got people like that you know the i grew up in new

01:02:42.300 england new england has has incredibly hard-working patriots up there if we got invaded

01:02:48.760 yeah try that up in maine did you grow up in new england yeah i did i did you do not seem like a

01:02:56.280 new england what do i seem like i mean don't go all hostile yeah yeah um i don't know new england

01:03:03.500 uh i lived in new england i only lived in connecticut so it might be different but new england

01:03:10.000 they're standoffish yeah uh they're well you got the puritan yeah you got the puritan culture that's

01:03:17.620 still there and i didn't really realize that until later on in life but yeah for sure the hard-working

01:03:22.580 puritan culture is there and i think that's where you get the hard-working new you know i got a i got

01:03:28.720 a company in maine we have a factory up in maine we have we're bringing back manufacturing to maine and

01:03:35.420 we we're building we're making clothes and apparel and we're starting to make shoes but we're doing

01:03:40.200 all this stuff in maine it's so easy to hire people up there right now because all the factories went

01:03:45.100 overseas we're bringing it back but these people they're they're incredible craftsmen yeah yeah and

01:03:49.860 they they know how to work they they work hard and so that's part of the new england culture and and

01:03:56.580 again that culture is not just new england you go anywhere in america there's people that know

01:04:01.200 how to work we know how to work in america and back to your earlier point we know how to defend

01:04:07.900 ourselves as well so doesn't matter where you land here it's not going to be fun yeah i don't think

01:04:13.460 people underestimate americans uh i i now i would have i wouldn't have made it past the missouri river

01:04:19.160 i would have been like i'm okay we're the people that cross the mountains yeah and when you've if

01:04:26.520 you've i mean if you've ever flown over the mountains but if you've ever driven through the

01:04:30.080 mountains and you think you get to a peak and you're like oh good god look at how many peaks

01:04:34.400 there are you would get up to that first peak and you'd be like are you kidding me and you didn't

01:04:38.980 know if you went down and then you were trapped you had to go all the way back up and go a different

01:04:42.420 direction that seems insane to me but that's we're still not too far away from that kind of mentality

01:04:49.480 no that's it's incredible the the attitude of the american working people is that's that's what that's

01:04:56.280 why we're here look at this place we're sitting it right these american hands built this stuff

01:05:00.440 and we'll continue to build and at some point if it someone tries to take it away from us it'd be a

01:05:06.400 real problem i'm glad like people like you live i am so glad i'm so glad thank you thank you

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The Glenn Beck Program - May 25, 2019

Ep 38 ｜ Jocko Willink ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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