In this episode, I sit down with journalist and political activist Ami Horowitz to discuss the current state of the Democratic Party and why it needs to take a hard look in the mirror. Ami has been a journalist for over 30 years and is now running for President of the United States as a Democrat. He has been an independent and has always been a conservative, but now he s running for president because, "All of their current candidates are insane."
00:03:53.900They honestly, they can't see what's happening.
00:03:56.120They have, you know, I talked to Joe Lieberman recently.
00:03:59.300And he said, Glenn, the people that I know still in the Democratic Party and the leadership in the, you know, not the crazy leaders, but the good, decent Democrats.
00:04:12.440He said they are terrified of the new Democrats.
00:04:16.500He said they don't dare step out of line because they know what will happen to them.
00:04:58.520It's either or it's, you know, it's look, there's clear that you made the point you're correct about.
00:05:04.560There are two parties and they are different, but there is one that's moving, bless you, in a far more radical position than the other ones.
00:05:38.100And I probably voted for Joe Lieberman at, you know, in the early 1990s and didn't have a problem with it because it wasn't a vote against everything you stand for.
00:05:52.960Now, even in the Republican Party, if you don't toe the line, it's not nearly as bad as the Democrats.
00:05:59.980But if you don't toe the line, even with things that the Republicans have stood against trade, you stand against trade wars.
00:06:09.300Well, now, if you don't speak highly of trade wars, you're trouble.
00:09:58.840I think if you had a blinded resume of what the president has done in the last two years and showed it to, again, like a sensible Democrat,
00:10:07.240I think they'd look at it and say, yeah, I kind of agree with most of those things.
00:10:09.700Certainly a Republican would, no question about it.
00:10:12.280I mean, 20%, I said 20% or 30% of the people who voted for Donald Trump were Democrats, voted for Obama at least once.
00:10:21.760And by the way, a third of Hispanics voted for the president, which is, you know, to go back to that trade war thing for a moment.
00:10:28.180Look, he was clear about the direction he was going to go in when he was running.
00:10:49.660I'm not certain that's the policy he's trying to pursue.
00:10:52.380I kind of think that he is a blunt object.
00:10:55.420And he's basically playing chicken with the Chinese and saying, because he's right about, in general, where his policies are on the Chinese.
00:15:16.320But if that was true, these guys have married the anti-Semites.
00:15:21.760I mean, the hypocrisy across the Democratic platform is incredible.
00:15:27.060Look, I remember 12 years ago when I first started talking about you are going to see the rise of 1930s style anti-Semitism in America because it happens every time there's a rise of socialism.
00:15:43.600And this country will be a national socialist movement.
00:15:47.520I was I was I was torn apart by everybody, just everybody, especially the Jewish community.
00:17:56.020I mean, it sounds like a joke, but it's true.
00:17:58.800Well, nobody who votes for Bernie Sanders is old enough to remember the Soviet Union.
00:18:03.220And I'm sure they know, right, that it has no resonance to them, no relevance to them.
00:18:07.020The only other person that I know of, a prominent name in American history that took a honeymoon over to the Soviet Union, was Lee Harvey Oswald.
00:18:21.440The historical ignorance that you're referring to is exactly what's led us to where we are now, because they have no frame of reference of what the end result of these policies are.
00:18:30.260So they're looking at it and saying, oh, socialism sounds great, which, by the way, is exactly what they said 100 years ago, right, prior to the Bolshevik Revolution.
00:18:53.540You were telling us that everything they were doing was utopian version of socialism.
00:19:02.020Now that you've run out of other people's money and a dictator has to take control because otherwise he and all the other socialists will be dead.
00:19:17.600One of the scariest videos I've ever done, I've done a whole number of very, very scary ones, but one that frightened me more than most, and that's saying a lot, was after I went to Venezuela, I went to Venezuela and I filmed the horrors that is happening there, you know, in real time.
00:19:35.840I was walking with a guy and I'm like, what are we doing here?
00:19:38.920It's nighttime in one of the most dangerous areas in Caracas.
00:19:41.740And Caracas, in the best areas, is one of the most dangerous areas on planet Earth.
00:19:45.620And he said, there's no more dogs and cats for me to eat in the better areas.
00:19:49.340I have to go to these dangerous areas to find the dogs and cats to feed my family.
00:19:52.820And after that experience, where a guy was shot on camera in front of me as a cop looked at him and walked away because the violence is out of control.
00:20:01.560After that video, I said, I got to see what people are thinking about Venezuela here in the U.S., the left.
00:20:06.760And I went to NYU and I was telling people what I experienced in Venezuela.
00:20:11.640I asked them, I said, but the one thing about Venezuela is that everybody suffers equally as opposed to the income inequality that we have here that capitalism, you know, supposedly has brought onto us.
00:20:23.540And I said, which system do you prefer?
00:20:25.300They're saying that there's the bread lines, there's violence, but they're all in it equally.
00:20:29.860And they looked at me and 80% of the kids that I talked to, they'd rather have the Venezuelan economic system than the U.S. economic system.
00:20:39.220That's where these kids are so ignorant of the realities of the world and of history that they'd actually make a choice to choose Venezuela over the U.S.
00:20:55.360So how do you get people without any framework of history who have been absolutely indoctrinated that socialism is great, how do you get them to look at the free market?
00:21:27.380If they're saying to you, oh, I'd rather have the inequality of suffering in Venezuela than the inequality of wealth in America, how do you get them to see the light?
00:21:43.200I have found that people are less jaded than we think they are.
00:21:50.420And if you're able to present an argument in a cogent way, in a compelling way, in a truthful way, I find when people turn people, I see it all the time.
00:21:59.300All the time on my videos, I see the comments on YouTube and Facebook.
00:22:02.900Every day I'll get 10, 12 comments saying, you know what, I'm a liberal.
00:22:06.000I saw this in a four-minute stunt video you did.
00:22:09.280You changed my mind on this particular issue.
00:22:11.020It is absolutely a winning argument because the argument is a winning argument.
00:22:14.460And this is why I'm running this campaign.
00:22:17.560I want to go on their stage in their home on television and make that argument that we're talking about right here because it is a winning argument.
00:37:30.560We're going to go through a hard time.
00:37:31.760In the study that I saw the other day, 20% of Democrats said that the other side doesn't have enough quality traits to even be regarded as human.
00:37:54.800That 18.6% of Democrats, 13.4% of Republicans say we'd be better off if there was a mass death of those on the other side.
00:38:12.140I mean, Ilhan Omar said that Donald Trump is not a human.
00:38:27.920I do a lot of different kinds of videos, so I can often cite the videos as and it's all anecdotal, of course.
00:38:33.940But after one of the shooting, one of the terrible shootings we had, I can't remember which one it was.
00:38:37.820Unfortunately, I did interview a bunch of Democrats, you know, again, and I asked them, would you support somebody assassinating Donald Trump?
00:41:44.880I think, I said this the other day, and I haven't looked for the comments, so I'm sure people have said stuff, but I'd be interested in your point of view.
00:41:57.220In all of human history, I think China may be the biggest threat, not to the United States, but to mankind and mankind's freedom that has ever existed.
00:42:10.880With the technology that they have and are working and their ideology, I think it's the most dangerous foe we've ever faced.
00:43:55.080They control everything at that point.
00:43:57.700No, from that perspective, only because we're in a state now where technology can have so much influence and power over the, okay, I see where you're going with that.
00:44:10.080But I, what I was looking at, they're more, the reason why I would look at the Soviet Union as the greatest foe we ever had is because it was an ideology that was spreading.
00:44:37.560Because they, they're so indebted to them.
00:44:39.280They're so indebted that they actually, I mean, they own, they own, they own, they own a significant part of the Sri Lankan port because Sri Lankan couldn't pay back the debt.
00:45:02.940But let me ask you, with groups like Google and Facebook, their ideology, I think, in some ways, is progressive at best, socialist at worst.
00:45:34.920Um, and they, they're used to this kind of control of their population.
00:45:42.240Google and Facebook and Apple, all of them are getting into bed here.
00:45:47.980And I believe they believe much of the same stuff, but it's all corporate greed.
00:45:54.940And I think there's a time coming very soon that they will be much more powerful than the federal government.
00:46:02.900The federal government will need them much more than Google will need the federal government.
00:46:08.060I mean, you're just like out of every dystopian sci-fi movie we've ever seen.
00:46:12.760Um, look, the Google Facebook thing is, is fascinating and it affects me in a very real way.
00:46:17.940I think it affects your business as well, but mine in particular is that I, I, my distribution base is, is, is totally dependent on Google and Facebook.
00:46:46.340Tell the story, tell the story again for anybody who didn't hear that episode.
00:46:49.460So I was, I went to Duke and there was a joint Duke UNC conference on the campus of the University of North Carolina.
00:46:56.500And it was ostensibly about the Gaza conflict, which I knew would devolve into an anti-Israel hate fest, which it did, which it's sad to say doesn't surprise me.
00:47:05.480And for me, doesn't even move the needle to do a video because it's so common on our campus.
00:47:10.740I hate to say that I'm jaded in that way, but it's just the reality.
00:47:12.900But what happened was something far worse than that was it just became an open antisemitic hate fest.
00:47:20.820And what happened was sort of the culmination of the entire conference was they brought this rapper in who, by the way, just a week before had this, this, this fawning piece in New York times about him, by the way, a significant piece in New York times about him.
00:52:40.100The only chance we have are in people like Peter Thiel who can start competitors to those.
00:52:49.780Because I'm convinced a competitor that is truly a platform in time, once they really start banning voices, one that truly says, hey, you're going to hate a lot of stuff here.
01:02:58.900Nobody wants to report on what's happening at the border now because they're invested in, you know, there's nothing, there's not a crisis.
01:03:05.680It's an absolute crisis on the southern border of Mexico and the southern border of the United States.
01:03:12.660How's that going to work out for the Democrats when it begins to be seen the ramifications of this?
01:03:25.580I mean, Italy just, they just put a new ban in for NGOs, specifically George Soros, because he's been helping poor immigrants from the Middle East get to Italy.
01:04:38.360Well, Friedman said, you can have open borders.
01:04:42.880You can have socialism, free medical care, free everything, but you cannot have both.
01:04:51.920They are actually now standing on stages all across America, democratic socialist and democratic candidates, saying everyone, even illegals, need to have all the free health care that we have.
01:06:14.440That's their answer for everything, which has failed repeatedly.
01:06:17.660But this time, I think that what they know is the states don't have the right to do one thing that the federal government has the right to do.
01:07:54.700I don't want, I don't like trolls and I don't like people who are just disrupting the system.
01:08:01.780They have every right to be on the stage and speak their mind.
01:08:05.500As long as you are respectful and playing by the rules, but stating what you believe, I'm good with that.
01:08:13.620See, I like the term disruptive, actually, because there's two meanings for it.
01:08:16.840But the meaning that I am inferring with disruptive is that in the technological sense, in the innovative sense, I'm disrupting something which needs to be disruptive because the path that's going on.
01:08:55.520And by the way, if this was if this was if this was Joe Biden circa 1993, I'm not sure I do this.
01:09:02.120I think that that that Joe Biden kind of represented the middle the middle ground fine enough, you know, well enough or if Moulton, you know, had a real shot and was a frontrunner as opposed to being also ran below one percent.
01:09:20.940So the choice is either put me on there and I speak truth to power and I hold them accountable to their views or they go back on everything they've been saying.
01:09:30.700And they, you know, when they announced what the criteria was to get on stage, Tom Perez went on every night.
01:09:36.400He went on Fox News and he said, we want this to be an absolutely open debate process.
01:09:41.880They understood that what happened in 2016 with with with the Democratic Democratic.
01:09:51.280I mean, the entire system was rigged for Hillary against Bernie Sanders.
01:09:54.620And he understood that this was this is they cannot have a decision making process of this weight being done in a back room.
01:10:02.320But this is what they devised when Reagan came into office.
01:10:07.0001980 is when the Democratic Party changed because they saw Ronald Reagan, this upstart, this guy who completely changed the Republican Party.
01:10:15.780And they said, wait, he was an outsider.
01:10:23.500That's why they devised superdelegates.
01:10:26.620I mean, they have from the beginning, they have made it as undemocratic as possible to be able to get on the stage and to become president of the United States.
01:10:37.040Now they're saying they've learned from that.
01:10:40.220The superdelegates are still in, but they've learned from that and they want to make it fair.
01:12:06.120Look, let's put aside whether or not Roe versus Wade from a constitutional perspective was a good decision.
01:12:12.400Because I think there are some fair issues whether or not it really was a good decision, not from a policy perspective where I actually support, but from a constitutional perspective.
01:18:06.840Which is why they're not going to pick Biden.
01:18:08.700Biden's only advantage is electability.
01:18:11.800Nobody wants to him for his perspectives.
01:18:15.200So if that's true, and I think you're right, that they think the country cannot wait to throw him out, then let's go all in on the woke president.
01:18:23.880Let's bring the first woke president in.
01:19:22.220Let's remember also that the people who are in the polls, who are called on the phone, are not necessarily the same people who vote in the primaries.
01:19:30.200People who vote in the primaries are far more to the left, as all primaries are, not just the Democrats, than the person who's being called on the phone and saying, what's your opinion?
01:20:16.320So let's take me out of it for the moment.
01:20:18.780I think that there is better than a 50-50 chance the president wins re-election, and the number goes up significantly if the economy stays where it is, and or if the Democrats elect somebody who is far to the left.
01:20:35.380So I think any time you kind of make this analysis on who you think is going to win, you've got to kind of game it through.
01:20:41.360If they choose a guy like Joe Biden, or even a Pete Buttigieg, although we're not really sure what he is exactly, I mean, he's been open about he has not formulated all of his policies yet, which is absurd to me.
01:20:54.400I don't know how you can run for president and not have every single...
01:20:56.920Like, when I came here, like, we're going to talk about policies.
01:20:59.140I mean, I just jumped in the race a week ago, and my policies are all formulated.
01:25:40.220You should take one because you don't want to go there.
01:25:43.160But as we pass all those exits, and I see that coming closer and closer, I get a little bummed and worried about basic freedoms being lost.
01:26:00.080I try not to show that while I'm on the air, but you see these things coming because you've witnessed them firsthand.
01:26:11.080I've seen the blackness of life firsthand.
01:26:17.120Look, I'm a short-term pessimist, long-term optimist.
01:26:21.900I think ultimately we make the right decisions.
01:26:24.080We don't sometimes in the short term when we learn lessons and we move on from them.
01:26:28.840But it's the fact that we learn lessons, which is why I'm a long-term optimist.
01:26:32.640It's not written in stone that we will succeed as a race, as a human race.
01:29:44.120They're the biggest threat this country has.
01:29:45.620Not the 10,000 neo-Nazis in this country, okay, who everybody kind of shunts aside anyways as psychopathic.
01:29:51.980They don't have the university system.
01:29:53.680The Nazis don't have the university system.
01:29:55.440They don't have any control of any levers, but the leftists do, okay?
01:29:58.400What I witness in universities, in our campuses, it makes me cry at night, okay?
01:30:04.600But these people want Pax Americana to end.
01:30:07.080The one thing I can tell them with 100% certainty, there's not a lot, I cannot, there's things I can prognosticate on that I'm right and not right on, I don't know.
01:30:24.300And the one thing I know for certain is that historians, when they write the history of that period of time, will say that's when humanity entered a phase of darkness.
01:30:33.960That will last for, I don't know how long.
01:30:36.080You know, Churchill wrote the history of the English-speaking people.
01:30:51.900And one of the last paragraphs in the book is so powerful because he's talking about how after 9-11, you know, turn of the century, you started to see America shift and the West shift.
01:31:10.400And it started to look back at itself, saying, ick, and what have we done and who are we?
01:31:19.280Because the rest of the world was saying it to them.
01:31:22.780And he said, there will come a day that it will end, the rule of the English-speaking people.
01:31:33.520And when that day comes, the world will weep and realize how benevolent, how good, how decent, how true that society really was in at least its attempt.