The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 56 ｜ History in Clay Pots ｜ David Barton ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

00:00:00.000 It is my joy to sit down with a friend and one of the best men I have ever, ever met, David Barton.

00:00:10.220 David is an interesting guy.

00:00:13.380 He is the founder of Wall Builders, which is this great pro-family organization that teaches principles, preserves history, teaches principles.

00:00:24.980 He speaks to over 400 groups every year.

00:00:27.840 David himself has authored many books.

00:00:31.720 One of them, I remember when I was just starting to wake up in my 30s, one of them I read and I loved the book and then forgot about it.

00:00:41.060 And one day I met David Barton and I'm like, hey, you're the guy that wrote one of my favorite books.

00:00:47.140 He has been involved in Supreme Court cases.

00:00:50.280 He is very involved in national politics, local politics.

00:00:54.260 He is even a guy who has, under a nom de plume, helped write some of the history books in many states to make sure that our standards in schools are right.

00:01:06.160 And that is so faltering now.

00:01:08.740 But David is on a mission to preserve our history and teach it.

00:01:12.860 He is described as America's historian.

00:01:16.200 Time magazine called him a hero to millions, including some very powerful politicians.

00:01:21.260 I have no idea what we're going to talk about.

00:01:24.020 I know he's brought some treasures in with him.

00:01:26.660 But David Barton is always a fascinating interview.

00:01:30.260 I think if I could have any job, it would be the two of us in a van doing American Pickers.

00:01:51.360 You are the guy who has taught me probably more about America than anybody else.

00:02:00.540 I've learned so much from you, David.

00:02:02.980 And I also learned how to make a compelling argument from you.

00:02:09.120 I have learned what a good friend is.

00:02:13.200 I've learned what a good Christian is because of you.

00:02:16.580 And we, I don't even know how we first met, but I think you're probably like this.

00:02:24.740 I can tell you part of that story.

00:02:26.640 And by the way, thank you for the kind words, but it's very much reciprocal as well.

00:02:33.600 What I've learned from you and depth and maturity and vision and patience, a lot of stuff.

00:02:39.680 Balance.

00:02:40.400 Thank you.

00:02:41.060 You've been, it's been great.

00:02:42.440 It's been iron sharpens iron, Bible verse.

00:02:44.160 I think maybe we helped each other, hopefully.

00:02:46.080 Yeah, I think we have.

00:02:47.000 You were going to do something called the American Revival.

00:02:50.040 And the American Revival, arena, events, Tampa, Phoenix, et cetera.

00:02:55.440 And you were doing Faith, Hope, and Charity.

00:02:57.820 And you called me and said, I've got the guy for hope.

00:03:02.640 I've got the guy for charity.

00:03:05.320 And this past weekend, three or four people gave me the same book, Original Intent, and it had you on it.

00:03:11.520 And I've seen something from you earlier.

00:03:13.800 I have.

00:03:14.920 I should have you autograph it.

00:03:16.520 I have my probably first edition copy of that book that you wrote in the 90s, right?

00:03:23.800 I think it was 92.

00:03:26.260 Yeah.

00:03:26.540 I think it was 92.

00:03:27.380 And I loved that book.

00:03:29.300 I didn't even know it was you until people started handing it.

00:03:33.480 And then I was like, oh, I know this book.

00:03:35.260 I love this book.

00:03:36.120 And that's when you said, so why don't you do the faith thing?

00:03:39.260 And so we did those arena events.

00:03:41.080 And so that was pretty early on.

00:03:43.240 Yeah.

00:03:43.480 And so that was the first time we really got connected.

00:03:46.740 And I think the Founders Fridays came after that, as I recall.

00:03:51.240 I think it was.

00:03:52.060 Yeah.

00:03:52.320 We did Founding Fridays, Founders Fridays every Friday.

00:03:56.400 And the network hated it.

00:03:59.640 Fox hated it.

00:04:01.100 Hated it.

00:04:02.500 Hated it.

00:04:03.260 They gave me so much grief.

00:04:05.520 They really.

00:04:06.200 Oh, my gosh.

00:04:06.780 You know that, don't you?

00:04:07.880 Did I not ever tell you?

00:04:08.860 I didn't know they gave you grief.

00:04:09.780 Oh, my gosh.

00:04:10.360 They gave me grief.

00:04:10.740 I knew the Jack and the cameraman.

00:04:11.840 The guys really loved it.

00:04:12.840 No, the floor crew.

00:04:14.260 Regular people loved it.

00:04:16.680 But, you know, they didn't.

00:04:18.600 Fox didn't.

00:04:19.020 No, I didn't.

00:04:19.460 I didn't know Fox gave you grief.

00:04:20.960 Yeah, no, Fox didn't like it.

00:04:23.120 But it was fun.

00:04:24.860 And what I learned from you, David, and this is where we make such a good team.

00:04:30.360 What I learned from you is it's one thing to say Ava Braun was a monster, was a monster, 0.97

00:04:43.200 just as much as Hitler was, monster. 0.98

00:04:46.140 And another thing to say, Ava Braun was a monster. 1.00

00:04:52.280 She even had her hats made by a Jewish woman who ended up in Treblinka. 0.96

00:05:02.900 She didn't care.

00:05:04.580 Killed at Treblinka.

00:05:05.840 Killed at Treblinka.

00:05:06.640 Killed at Treblinka. 0.74

00:05:07.140 Killed.

00:05:07.560 Because that is Ava Braun's hat. 0.93

00:05:09.280 Right.

00:05:09.880 Right.

00:05:10.140 There is such a difference between telling a story and then having something that verifies.

00:05:22.500 It's not imagination anymore.

00:05:23.980 Right.

00:05:24.240 Now you've got something tangible in front of you.

00:05:27.120 Right.

00:05:27.340 And it shifts the whole argument.

00:05:28.760 It's not what are your credentials.

00:05:30.240 It's, oh my gosh, that's the real one.

00:05:32.520 Shifts everything.

00:05:33.200 Here's what kills me is you used to be, you've been a collector forever.

00:05:38.640 You were buying George Washington stuff when it was like a dime a dozen.

00:05:42.100 That's right.

00:05:42.580 They couldn't give it away.

00:05:44.040 Right.

00:05:44.340 That's right.

00:05:44.720 When I was buying George Washington stuff, the highest price George Washington letter I saw was 500 bucks.

00:05:52.860 Oh my gosh.

00:05:54.360 And if I bought everything now, I would own Trump Towers.

00:05:58.720 Oh my gosh.

00:06:00.200 We know a guy who's been offered a million dollars for a single George Washington letter.

00:06:04.920 One million.

00:06:05.260 One.

00:06:05.680 For one letter.

00:06:06.460 Yeah.

00:06:06.680 I see them typically go 40 to 60.

00:06:10.240 I've seen them up to 200,000.

00:06:11.600 I don't have one.

00:06:13.080 We have some.

00:06:14.140 Yeah, I know.

00:06:14.660 I don't.

00:06:15.220 You do.

00:06:16.280 Yeah.

00:06:16.640 You've got the Badger Merit stuff and you've got Stoney Point.

00:06:20.000 So you've got some good washing and stuff.

00:06:22.480 Yeah, I guess I do.

00:06:23.460 I guess I do.

00:06:23.920 You've got some washing and stuff.

00:06:24.880 Yeah.

00:06:25.340 Yeah.

00:06:25.440 So, but again, you know, back when we were doing it and it's interesting when we started

00:06:31.720 out, we drove everywhere because had three kids.

00:06:35.120 We couldn't fly to five, couldn't afford to fly five people everywhere.

00:06:38.420 So I drove all over the United States.

00:06:40.400 So we retired three vans with 300,000 miles on each van.

00:06:43.960 So nearly a million miles driving the country.

00:06:46.700 And as we were going through places, we would see old junk stores, old secondhand shops,

00:06:53.500 thrift shops, would stop at Instagram.

00:06:54.980 Did your kids ever get to love that?

00:06:57.100 Yeah.

00:06:57.620 They didn't know anything else.

00:06:58.880 I mean, that's how they grew up.

00:07:00.660 Because my kids.

00:07:00.820 That's what they did.

00:07:02.560 Hate it.

00:07:03.520 I go to, I drive, and just like my mother, I drive and I see an old antique store or something

00:07:09.000 and everyone, everyone in the car is like, please, Ted, no, no, no, no.

00:07:12.740 And I'm like, just go run in and just see what they have.

00:07:15.340 Yeah.

00:07:15.560 And I'm there.

00:07:16.620 I, I've, I've realized I'm a hoarder.

00:07:19.500 I'm just a very, very rich hoarder.

00:07:22.560 You know what I mean?

00:07:25.300 I had somebody come over to my house and they're, you know, they, they were trying to help us

00:07:31.620 on interior design or something.

00:07:33.460 And she said, you're a hoarder.

00:07:37.560 And I said, she really, I said, well, I mean, nothing stacked up and I don't have to use

00:07:43.180 it as aisles.

00:07:44.080 And she said, no, she said, don't get me wrong.

00:07:46.620 She said, I don't think you could live in a smaller house.

00:07:49.320 She said, because you're a hoarder, not of stuff.

00:07:52.280 You're a hoarder of stories.

00:07:54.120 Yeah, that's right.

00:07:54.880 She said, everything in your house has a story.

00:07:58.540 And I realized it's true.

00:08:01.260 I can't get rid of stuff because I have this, this is most people would be like, what are you

00:08:07.500 going to do with that?

00:08:08.480 Are you kidding me?

00:08:09.300 This is Ava Braun.

00:08:10.400 I can tell you can tell the story, 10 stories just based on this hat.

00:08:14.400 That's right.

00:08:15.540 And that's the fun part about history, especially the way we go at it is, you know, I think the

00:08:21.620 Bible is God's word, but at the very least it's a history book. 1.00

00:08:26.500 Yes.

00:08:26.720 So if we say it's a history book and if we say God was the author, it always strikes

00:08:32.160 me as interesting.

00:08:33.280 We ask people this, what year did David kill Goliath?

00:08:37.900 Answer is nobody has a clue.

00:08:40.000 That's because it's not important to see what we focus on today is all the years and the

00:08:43.840 dates.

00:08:44.320 And back then it was stories.

00:08:45.600 Now I can tell you the story of David killing Goliath.

00:08:47.720 That's a cool story for a teenage kid to take on a seven and a half foot guy.

00:08:51.520 And the story is what it's all about.

00:08:54.380 And so when God gives us history, it wasn't with the way we do it today, which really is

00:09:01.040 pretty boring.

00:09:02.120 It was about us.

00:09:02.920 So I would say the Bible is also a hoarder of stories.

00:09:05.960 I mean, whether it's, you know, the three Hebrew children, Daniel.

00:09:09.340 David, that is what history is.

00:09:12.480 It is.

00:09:13.020 It is.

00:09:13.220 No, it's so boring the way it's taught.

00:09:16.720 It's so incredibly boring.

00:09:18.880 And I believe now that I've done my homework, I believe intentionally so.

00:09:23.860 I think they've wrecked the story of history because if you can wreck history, you don't

00:09:28.580 know who you were.

00:09:29.320 You don't know where you came from.

00:09:30.600 You don't, you don't know anything.

00:09:31.880 Well, the thing that I've always seen is that you can't remake your history until you first

00:09:38.180 stop teaching history.

00:09:39.600 What you can do is attack it.

00:09:41.460 Then you stop teaching it.

00:09:42.700 Then you come back with a whole different story.

00:09:44.360 Did you see the article in, I think it's Texas Monthly.

00:09:47.440 Did you see this?

00:09:48.080 No, I actually have it at my house.

00:09:51.340 I haven't finished reading it yet.

00:09:52.760 I was going to bring it to you.

00:09:53.700 I wish I had it now.

00:09:55.460 The the new Texas history on the cover of Texas Monthly, it says, are you ready to remember

00:10:02.420 the Alamo, the Civil War and something else, Texas differently?

00:10:09.900 Yeah.

00:10:10.120 And I'm like, no, no.

00:10:12.660 I mean, if it's true, this this this group came out and they looked for a great writer.

00:10:17.840 They didn't look for a historian.

00:10:19.080 The guy's not a historian.

00:10:20.420 He's a journalist.

00:10:21.180 And the quote that jumped out at me was that was at the top of the article.

00:10:26.660 I just am.

00:10:29.580 I can't remember exactly, but it was like, I I am just repelled by the standard big picture

00:10:37.460 of Texas.

00:10:39.740 And you're going to write the history.

00:10:41.200 I think that's the historical picture.

00:10:44.580 Right.

00:10:45.240 Right.

00:10:45.660 I mean, what people don't understand and why we make such a good team.

00:10:50.800 That's like letting, oh, you got to write the history of University of Texas.

00:10:54.140 That's not going to go real well. 0.97

00:10:55.620 It's ridiculous.

00:10:56.820 It's like having it's like having Chevy write the the the history of Ford or Chevy probably

00:11:05.800 could, but Dodge or or Tesla, you're not going to have them write it.

00:11:10.940 Yeah, of course not.

00:11:12.260 Yeah.

00:11:13.680 But the thing I think that makes you so interesting and the two of us so deadly is when I first

00:11:23.740 met you, you were all about the best things and your collection, how many how many founding

00:11:32.060 letters do you have in papers?

00:11:35.140 We total is one hundred and twenty thousand documents, originals, copies before 1812.

00:11:42.260 How many letters?

00:11:43.520 I don't mean just the documents, documents, one hundred twenty thousand and our collections

00:11:48.880 combined, if I'm not mistaken, are only surpassed.

00:11:53.840 This is something I heard a while back and you'd know better.

00:11:57.200 Only surpassed by the Library of Congress and the National Archives.

00:12:02.200 Well, what we're told is the collection we have collectively is the largest privately held

00:12:08.580 collection of founding era materials.

00:12:10.580 And so if that's accurate, then that means the National Archives, Smithsonian, Library

00:12:16.380 of Congress, they're bigger.

00:12:17.800 But as far as it's an institution, it's an institution, institution.

00:12:20.900 Yeah.

00:12:23.000 You collect all those great, wonderful, game changing things.

00:12:29.660 I've always collected the dark.

00:12:32.140 You have a broad.

00:12:32.860 Yeah.

00:12:33.400 And Hitler's napkin where they tried to blow him up.

00:12:36.640 Yeah.

00:12:36.840 Well, that's actually a positive one.

00:12:38.400 It is.

00:12:38.860 I mean, I have, you know, the witch trials and yeah, I have all the witch trial stuff

00:12:45.140 and everything else.

00:12:46.780 But it's a good combination because you tell the good, the bad, the ugly.

00:12:50.240 You tell all of it.

00:12:51.560 And this is the problem with taking statues and monuments down is I can tell you as much

00:12:58.060 from bad as I can from good.

00:12:59.700 And I can give you just as many life lessons from the bad as I can.

00:13:02.720 If you erase William.

00:13:04.700 No, not William.

00:13:05.660 Nathan Bedford Forrest.

00:13:07.460 Yeah.

00:13:07.580 If you erase him, we don't have anything to learn from. 0.97

00:13:11.360 He is an abomination of a man. 0.97

00:13:14.600 Yes. 0.98

00:13:15.500 And there were statues up.

00:13:17.260 I mean, the first time.

00:13:18.200 There were elementary schools named after him.

00:13:19.920 Named after him.

00:13:20.600 Yeah.

00:13:21.040 And if you don't, if you don't, if you just erase him, we, we fail to learn from that.

00:13:28.720 And I remember a friend has his sword.

00:13:32.220 Oh, wow.

00:13:32.880 And yeah.

00:13:33.520 And he said, and I wouldn't want to test the DNA on that.

00:13:36.780 I know.

00:13:37.760 Fort pillow.

00:13:38.520 Yeah.

00:13:38.820 Oh no.

00:13:39.620 Yeah.

00:13:39.920 I don't know.

00:13:40.300 He was, so if anybody doesn't know who he is, he's the guy who, during the civil war and

00:13:46.080 Fort pillow, look it up massacre, horrible.

00:13:49.960 After they surrendered.

00:13:51.280 After.

00:13:51.520 After they gave up.

00:13:52.420 It wasn't just a massacre of soldiers.

00:13:54.060 It was a massacre of surrenders.

00:13:56.020 So it's like a massacre of POWs.

00:13:57.760 Right. 0.99

00:13:58.000 And it was mainly black that he killed. 1.00

00:14:00.660 It was blacks. 1.00

00:14:01.300 And, and, and then he skinned many of them and, and, and took their skin and nailed them 0.99

00:14:08.760 to sides of barns like pelts to say, mess with us.

00:14:12.620 And this is what happens.

00:14:14.440 After the war, he's the guy who was the founder of the Ku Klux Klan. 0.98

00:14:18.360 He's horrible, horrible. 0.98

00:14:21.220 You can't erase a guy like that. 0.99

00:14:22.980 Let's talk about him.

00:14:23.920 Yes.

00:14:24.400 Because you get lessons you can learn from him and his thinking.

00:14:27.720 I'm intrigued with going to Israel.

00:14:30.200 I mean, we've got the Cruz, we're going to be in Israel.

00:14:32.640 And when we get there, we've got monuments to Absalom.

00:14:37.040 We've got streets named after King Ahab.

00:14:39.600 I mean, those are some of the worst guys ever, but they remember them because you can learn

00:14:44.140 from the bad as well as the other, you know, as much as I disagree with many things going

00:14:48.460 on in Germany, you know, their economic system, their view of rights and the European

00:14:54.040 court, everything else, what they do well is they don't tolerate Nazism because they have 0.92

00:14:59.240 kept alive museums to show what the Nazis did, what they, what they believe.

00:15:03.640 They got all these collections.

00:15:04.860 They, they have so much.

00:15:06.380 Again, I mean, I'll push back a bit.

00:15:08.260 I don't like the fact that you can't read Mein Kampf.

00:15:10.900 Right.

00:15:11.300 I read Mein Kampf when I was trying to do my own homework and figure out, did the German

00:15:16.660 people know, you know, the only 30% did the German people know what he was going to do?

00:15:23.940 Well, Mein Kampf sold more copies than the Bible.

00:15:26.960 It was everywhere.

00:15:28.640 Every German had to read it.

00:15:30.680 And it's very clear.

00:15:32.640 Especially the last part, what he's going to do.

00:15:34.140 Oh yeah.

00:15:34.940 I mean, up to the, up to the first part, most people would say, no problem with this, but

00:15:39.400 then he takes it all and turns it to a conclusion.

00:15:41.200 Now, here's what we do.

00:15:41.920 And you go, oh my gosh.

00:15:43.540 Yeah.

00:15:44.000 Yeah.

00:15:44.220 And reading that.

00:15:45.600 Yeah.

00:15:46.240 But you can't in Germany.

00:15:47.820 I think it may have just been lifted, but you can't read.

00:15:50.920 Oh, I didn't realize that in Germany.

00:15:51.300 Yeah, no.

00:15:51.900 Oh.

00:15:52.360 You cannot have a copy of, of Mein Kampf.

00:15:55.540 Yeah.

00:15:56.140 So.

00:15:57.120 Interesting.

00:15:57.440 You forget about things like this, which fascinates me, David, that you just, are these, are these

00:16:03.940 mercury?

00:16:04.620 Are these yours?

00:16:05.640 They're things that I bought in the last trip to Poland and brought back and put in the

00:16:10.400 mercury one collection.

00:16:11.240 I really despise the fact that you have the sewing machine.

00:16:17.280 That's right.

00:16:17.800 The sewing machine that was made to use SS uniforms.

00:16:22.180 Jews. 0.64

00:16:22.580 Jewish slaves. 0.98

00:16:23.500 Were using it to make SS uniforms and it's crazy. 0.92

00:16:28.040 And they didn't have healthcare problems because once you hit 65, they just killed you.

00:16:32.080 Oh yeah.

00:16:32.480 So I mean, you don't need to worry about.

00:16:34.380 You know, do you, you know much about Kurt Garand?

00:16:36.580 No, I don't.

00:16:37.180 Oh my gosh, David.

00:16:38.000 We got to find some stuff on Kurt Garand.

00:16:39.980 Kurt Garand was a comedic actor in Germany.

00:16:43.940 He was huge.

00:16:44.900 He was, I mean, who's the biggest comedic actor?

00:16:47.460 He was like a Tom Hanks kind of guy.

00:16:50.400 Okay.

00:16:52.100 And everybody loved him, but he was Jewish.

00:16:54.840 And for a while he got away with it under the Nazis until they finally started rounding 0.88

00:17:01.300 people up.

00:17:01.960 And he was still kind of on the edge, but they started rounding people up at the studio and

00:17:05.780 they said, all Jews get out.

00:17:07.340 He was allowed to stay for a little while longer.

00:17:10.560 And then he realized they're, they're going to get me too.

00:17:12.940 And so he fled to the Netherlands and, um, he, uh, was working in the Netherlands and he

00:17:21.800 was the first guy to make fun of Hitler in the cabarets.

00:17:25.440 He had made fun of him for years and mocked him before he came to power.

00:17:30.320 Hitler hated him.

00:17:32.440 Wow.

00:17:32.580 Um, and so the Germans, when they, you know, they overtook, you know, Holland and Amsterdam 0.96

00:17:38.400 and everything else, uh, they went in to find him.

00:17:41.720 They brought him in, um, and brought him to just the outskirts of Auschwitz.

00:17:48.460 I'm trying to remember the name of the town, but they had built this town, walled it off

00:17:52.860 and built this town to be idyllic.

00:17:56.680 And it was just as Germany was starting to say, you know, what is happening with?

00:18:02.580 All the Jews. 0.99

00:18:03.960 And Hitler was saying, that's all conspiracy theory that we're killing. 0.99

00:18:08.260 We, we've shipped them to a place of their own.

00:18:11.000 They've got their own place.

00:18:12.300 Yeah.

00:18:12.860 And people were, it was starting to come undone a bit.

00:18:15.900 And so, uh, he told Kurt Caron, they built this whole town, filled it with Jewish people.

00:18:23.020 They said the Jewish people, when the trucks came and opened up, they started to see instruments

00:18:27.760 that they had never seen before.

00:18:29.040 And they thought, good God, what are they going to do to us?

00:18:30.880 It was film equipment.

00:18:32.580 And they said to Kurt, they said, um, these people and you, you're all going to be dead

00:18:39.180 in three days, unless you make this film.

00:18:42.620 And so they may, he agreed to it, made this film, David, it was the most cruel thing ever.

00:18:48.120 They dressed everybody up.

00:18:49.880 They put all this food on the shelves.

00:18:51.800 They made it this beautiful little town.

00:18:53.880 They had the symphony.

00:18:55.480 They had the, the greatest, all of the intellectuals.

00:18:58.920 If you were famous or known, you went to this town.

00:19:02.220 And, um, and so Kurt Garon, uh, filmed the whole thing.

00:19:08.680 They had the Nazis just offside the camera. 0.71

00:19:12.080 And, uh, when they were showing how they were eating, you'll never see any of them put food

00:19:18.280 in their mouth. 0.53

00:19:19.080 You'll see the spoon come up and you were, these people were starving.

00:19:23.680 These, you were beaten to death if you, um, ate anything.

00:19:28.120 So you had to film like you were happy and, and eating and then put it down and not eat.

00:19:34.920 He finishes the film.

00:19:36.500 They edit the film and, uh, it's a masterpiece.

00:19:40.440 You can watch it on, on, on YouTube.

00:19:43.100 It's a masterpiece.

00:19:45.440 They rounded everybody up, put them on trains.

00:19:48.460 They were dead the next day.

00:19:50.380 Uh, and Kurt Garon was the last one.

00:19:53.320 And he, they say that he was last seen in the town square pleading for his life, but

00:19:58.900 I did everything you said I, I, I needed to do.

00:20:02.420 You can't take me in my family.

00:20:04.720 And they did, they did.

00:20:06.400 And he was known.

00:20:07.600 I can't remember the name of the song, but it's a well-known song.

00:20:10.360 And he was known for singing that song in his comedies.

00:20:13.880 And as he was lined up in the shower, they forced him to sing that, um, that happy song

00:20:21.620 while he was doing that.

00:20:22.900 While he's dying.

00:20:23.480 Horrible.

00:20:24.120 Horrible.

00:20:24.760 Never heard of him.

00:20:25.640 Yeah.

00:20:26.040 No, you should look him up.

00:20:27.060 We have to find some stuff for him.

00:20:28.660 He's, he's, he's, uh, martyr.

00:20:32.300 Yeah.

00:20:32.880 And, uh, and, and, and, and, and just an interesting kind of what would you do in his situation kind

00:20:39.220 of thing.

00:20:40.020 So these are stamps for passports.

00:20:43.100 One is Jewish.

00:20:44.240 It's a official stamp out of the ghetto, the Warsaw ghetto. 1.00

00:20:47.900 And that's where they rounded up Jews to eventually kill them, ship them off, kill them. 0.93

00:20:53.400 The other, I forget the name of the concentration camp. 0.98

00:20:55.680 It was one of the, the death camps.

00:20:57.140 And it was a really brutal death camp.

00:20:58.860 And there's very little known that the, the, the, the Germans tried to destroy a lot of

00:21:04.700 the death camps in Poland.

00:21:06.580 You know, they burned Treblinka, they blew it up and that came from one of the, those 1.00

00:21:11.180 death camps they tried to, to destroy.

00:21:14.680 So Poland lost, Poland lost 20, 20% of their population.

00:21:20.380 Well, it's the most, more people were lost population percentage in Poland than I think

00:21:28.340 any place else.

00:21:29.260 Been to Poland a lot of times, take congressional delegations there.

00:21:32.440 Poland is such a cool country.

00:21:35.160 So good.

00:21:35.860 They love America.

00:21:36.660 The two biggest statues in Poland, Pope John Paul II and Ronald Reagan.

00:21:40.480 And those are the two, but.

00:21:42.060 And the train station.

00:21:43.200 They leave the train station.

00:21:44.320 Yes.

00:21:44.600 Have you seen the train station in, is it Warsaw?

00:21:46.900 Yes.

00:21:47.260 It's.

00:21:47.520 It was a gift.

00:21:49.280 People were starving.

00:21:50.440 That's right.

00:21:50.780 And Stalin, I think said.

00:21:52.700 Built it with slave labor.

00:21:53.760 Yeah.

00:21:54.260 And it's this ugly monstrosity and they won't tear it down.

00:21:57.900 And they won't tear it down because they want it for us.

00:21:59.800 It's a reminder.

00:22:00.440 Yes.

00:22:00.760 It was slavery.

00:22:01.580 William Bedford Forrest and those schools and everything else.

00:22:05.940 Remember what this is.

00:22:07.420 And they point to that and all the brutality of the Soviets, what Stalin did to them.

00:22:11.700 And that's why we remember.

00:22:12.880 So what's amazing about Poland is you can, if you go two kilometers in any direction, a little over a mile, 1.2 miles, you will come on a mass burial site throughout the entire nation of Poland.

00:22:26.200 You cannot go more than two kilometers without hitting a mass burial site.

00:22:29.640 And so if they put in a parking lot for Walmart, they have to stop because they will uncover three or four mass grave sites.

00:22:36.120 It's just amazing to imagine living in a country where they lost that many, much of their population.

00:22:42.940 I went there.

00:22:43.860 Did I go with you that time?

00:22:45.140 No.

00:22:45.820 No.

00:22:45.880 No.

00:22:46.000 I went there and I, you know, I saw all of the sites and when I was there, I was so angry at the people, the churches basically.

00:23:00.780 Where the hell were you?

00:23:01.680 I mean, as you're driving away from Auschwitz and we had George Lang going with us because we were making a documentary.

00:23:11.080 And Tanya and I will look at those pictures once in a while, you know, just keep them on the computer and once in a while be looking through pictures and stuff and we'll see those.

00:23:21.880 And without anything in the background, we know which ones were taken at Auschwitz because you see it in us.

00:23:31.260 It's just bone crushing to be there.

00:23:34.220 And I remember driving away thinking, where were you?

00:23:37.180 Yeah.

00:23:37.480 One point, you know, two miles away in any direction and you've got a burial site.

00:23:43.020 Where were you?

00:23:44.240 And the chief rabbi of Poland said, there were more, what did he say?

00:23:50.060 7,000 righteous among the nations that save Jews. 0.78

00:23:56.460 And I said, that is depressing.

00:24:00.260 And he looked at me and said, depressing?

00:24:02.280 Do you know what those 7,000 people had to go through to save?

00:24:08.160 And it really spun things around.

00:24:10.880 But I just, until recently, I couldn't believe the cowardice of the mass population.

00:24:20.880 But you look at, have you ever read the book, oh gosh, what was it, Average Gentleman or something?

00:24:30.000 I can't remember.

00:24:31.160 It is a, it's a study on one of the police forces that became one of the most brutal killers in Poland.

00:24:38.480 And it was, how did they get there?

00:24:42.000 They were one of the greatest police forces that were so great and integrated in the community and everything else. 0.94

00:24:47.640 And within a month, they're just slaughtering the Jews. 0.99

00:24:51.620 And how did they do it? 0.97

00:24:53.820 Ordinary gentlemen or ordinary, something like that.

00:24:56.160 And it's fascinating to read, David, because if you read it, you start to see patterns on how you just break people down a little bit at a time.

00:25:07.720 And before you know it, you're not the same man.

00:25:11.340 Yeah, that's right.

00:25:12.320 And it is a little by little.

00:25:13.640 And that's what happened to the German people. 0.98

00:25:15.220 Because when Hitler comes in 33, by the time you get 45, you're 12 years. 0.94

00:25:19.820 And you've had propaganda going.

00:25:21.160 Plus, he not only killed 6 million Jews, he killed 7 million Gentiles. 0.85

00:25:26.160 So he killed both sides, just anybody that opposed him.

00:25:31.240 We have been working on this documentary that I just have no time to finish, but we are going to finish it.

00:25:38.140 And it is on the myth of Christianity, being that Hitler was Christian. 0.75

00:25:44.880 That was a Christian movement.

00:25:46.580 I had a Holocaust survivor tell me that once.

00:25:48.860 He said, it's you Christians.

00:25:51.260 Hitler was a Christian. 0.99

00:25:53.420 Actually, he killed Christians. 0.98

00:25:54.880 Actually, more Christians than any of the Jews. 0.99

00:25:57.980 But I get the deal.

00:25:59.340 If you were a Lutheran, he's a state-established church.

00:26:01.940 He's in Germany.

00:26:03.020 Every German's a Lutheran or a Jew. 0.85

00:26:05.220 Right.

00:26:05.560 Got it.

00:26:06.040 The German churches actually within, I think it was the first 12 months of Hitler taking over,

00:26:13.140 they were actually saying, we should get rid of the Old Testament because it's Jewish.

00:26:16.660 I mean, they're the core.

00:26:20.800 That's why people like Bonhoeffer, who were really, right, the ones who actually believed

00:26:27.700 in Christ, the ones who actually did it, they didn't say, sing louder, play the organ louder

00:26:33.960 so we can't hear the train going by.

00:26:36.560 They did something.

00:26:38.220 They did so.

00:26:38.920 Well, we've been, there are 200 righteous among the nation left today in Poland.

00:26:44.120 And so we've been making trips over where we're getting, for example, one of the cool

00:26:49.200 ones, a 60-year-old Jewish lady, maybe 70-year-old and a 95-year-old Christian guy.

00:26:56.460 He saved her.

00:26:57.320 And so get them back together.

00:26:59.240 And so it's really cool stuff.

00:27:01.380 And just, we talked to a guy, he's nearly 100 years old, and he ran a factory in Poland

00:27:08.400 and he saw what was happening to the Jews.

00:27:10.680 And so he would find corrupt German guards and he would buy Jews from corrupt German guards, 0.91

00:27:15.940 get them to his factory, get them a Polish name, get them Polish identification.

00:27:20.060 He had 50 or 60 Jews working in his factory.

00:27:22.300 He bought, he scraped together everything he had, turn it in gold and give it to Nazi soldiers 0.90

00:27:28.240 and buy Jews. 0.76

00:27:29.140 And he said, one of them I like so well, I married her.

00:27:31.500 You know, so he got his wife out of one of these that he bought. 0.77

00:27:34.280 But the stories of what these guys did, we went to two hiding places, only two known hiding

00:27:39.620 places left in Poland.

00:27:41.740 And one was a farm.

00:27:44.320 I mean, it was so far out of the sticks.

00:27:46.340 And what happened was there was a family of, I don't know, eight or 10 in the family.

00:27:54.000 And the youngest son had gone to town and the Germans came and found a hiding place, nobody

00:27:59.500 in it, but they saw the remnants of a Jewish book or Jewish signs.

00:28:05.400 So they took every, every one of the family members out, shot them at the barn, killed 0.97

00:28:09.020 them all, burned them, burned the barn down top.

00:28:10.940 The kid gets home to find what was there, but the hiding place is still there.

00:28:15.840 And the family still has a hiding place that was under the barn.

00:28:19.580 I mean, just, you see what these guys went through.

00:28:22.760 And if you were caught collaborating to help a Jew, the price you paid, and they made sure 1.00

00:28:27.940 the whole nation knew about it, you know, you're not going to help a Jew because if you 1.00

00:28:31.240 do, burn, burn down on your head. 0.98

00:28:33.680 David, the only reason to really know history is, hey, it's great stories. 0.99

00:28:39.780 If you like great stories, the great stories are there.

00:28:42.640 Every story is there.

00:28:45.260 But also, if you're smart, you look at patterns because we repeat.

00:28:52.400 I have been impressed recently that I think Nike, Google, Facebook, the NBA, they're going

00:29:04.080 to be remembered as Nazi collaborators.

00:29:06.780 What's happening in China is, is Hitler's dream. 0.98

00:29:12.640 It's Hitler's dream. 1.00

00:29:15.520 You know, Hitler worked with IBM and that was something. 0.89

00:29:18.740 And that's how they were able to suppress the people.

00:29:21.240 So what was it, 16 categories they found?

00:29:23.860 You know, we know the preachers, we know the Jews, we know the homosexuals, we know the 0.99

00:29:27.180 gypsies, we know the dissenters, we know all of them. 1.00

00:29:30.000 And they were just starting to get that.

00:29:32.260 IBM did it.

00:29:33.080 And they denied it for a long time.

00:29:34.960 But a friend of ours actually wrote the book, IBM and the Holocaust.

00:29:38.900 They smeared him for a decade.

00:29:42.020 He kept researching and he proved it absolutely positively.

00:29:47.240 And IBM actually had to come out and apologize to him and apologize for that.

00:29:51.700 And their position day is, oh yeah, that's old news.

00:29:53.620 Everybody knows about that.

00:29:54.320 Right, I know.

00:29:54.680 They just blow it off.

00:29:56.000 Right.

00:29:56.120 But now we are seeing the same kind of stuff happening in our day and you're not hearing

00:30:04.840 about people being smuggled out.

00:30:06.800 I mean, some pastors are smuggling people out, but you're not hearing of these heroes

00:30:12.400 yet.

00:30:13.020 I don't know if they exist there.

00:30:15.040 Um, and the world is just turning a blind eye and I find myself saying, be careful how

00:30:23.560 you judge the past because it's just, it's right there and it's right in front of us.

00:30:30.400 This time we know it.

00:30:32.100 We all know it.

00:30:33.360 It was rumors and whispers.

00:30:35.080 We have satellite pictures.

00:30:36.720 We know it.

00:30:37.880 Yeah.

00:30:38.520 And we're not doing anything about it.

00:30:40.300 The same thing with slavery.

00:30:41.200 We are so captivated with the slave trade and, and black slavery in America, et cetera.

00:30:47.940 All right.

00:30:49.000 380 years of slave trade.

00:30:50.940 There are 12.7 million and 380 years, nearly four centuries.

00:30:55.820 Today there's 40 million.

00:30:57.580 You're captivated on something 380 years ago that involved 12 million.

00:31:02.320 It was all bad.

00:31:03.140 It shouldn't happen.

00:31:04.680 How about today?

00:31:05.960 When, when the next generation looks back and say, you guys had 40 million slaves and

00:31:09.940 nothing about it and they'll condemn this generation the same way you're condemning the past generation 0.69

00:31:13.820 and it, it, it repeats itself.

00:31:16.280 And so the problem today are right in the middle of it.

00:31:18.480 Right.

00:31:18.700 And the problem today is, um, as two guys who have tried to wake people up on slavery, um,

00:31:29.580 and these concentration camps and what's happening in the middle East.

00:31:32.980 Um, um, I completely understand the founders.

00:31:38.480 I completely understand, um, they didn't surrender.

00:31:42.800 They couldn't get anyone to pay attention to it.

00:31:46.100 No one wants to look at horrible things and it's how you get away with it. 0.99

00:31:51.700 If you're a horrible monster of a human being. 1.00

00:31:54.360 Yeah. 1.00

00:31:55.020 You just switch the channel now.

00:31:56.680 You, and you know, even on the pattern of how we learned from history, um, this to me

00:32:03.140 is one of the most cherished pieces of history that nobody knows about.

00:32:08.820 And I'm intrigued.

00:32:10.600 It's, um, and by the way, let me, let me go back because we were talking about Holocaust

00:32:15.260 and what we do with history.

00:32:17.600 Now we have the current, it started in September of 2014.

00:32:24.140 The AP history is the last history course a high school kid will get.

00:32:28.360 It's, it's the equivalent of college course.

00:32:30.280 It serves for general history in college.

00:32:32.280 They get in high school.

00:32:33.420 It's the last course they get for history.

00:32:35.420 460,000 kids a year.

00:32:36.760 Take it.

00:32:37.400 And the September 2014 standards came out.

00:32:40.300 And in world war two, there were four lines of what, four bullets of what world war two is

00:32:46.700 about.

00:32:47.260 Let me guess.

00:32:48.740 Um, one had to be that we dropped the atomic bomb.

00:32:52.440 That's it.

00:32:52.960 Okay.

00:32:54.300 Um, I don't know what the others might be.

00:32:57.000 We had segregation in the military.

00:32:58.440 We had segregation in the military.

00:32:59.940 We deterred the Japanese. 1.00

00:33:01.120 Yep.

00:33:01.760 And women didn't have full rights. 1.00

00:33:04.040 There is no mention of Hitler or the Holocaust.

00:33:07.600 Hitler or the Holocaust? 0.59

00:33:08.940 Not even there.

00:33:09.960 Nazi, Hitler, Holocaust is not there. 0.94

00:33:12.460 You don't have any of the Japanese genocide, killed 10 million Chinese, made sex slaves 0.99

00:33:18.800 out of the Koreans. 0.73

00:33:20.020 None of that. 0.85

00:33:20.940 Everything is how bad America is.

00:33:23.780 So even, I mean, the outcry was so bad that they went back and in September 2015 revised

00:33:29.400 that they added two things.

00:33:31.100 They did mention Hitler and the Holocaust.

00:33:33.080 Nothing else.

00:33:33.900 They don't go into, you don't get D-Day.

00:33:35.880 You don't get anything about Battle of the Bulge or Midway.

00:33:39.260 There's nothing in World War II except America did four bad things. 0.50

00:33:43.540 And as they say in the standards, it raised questions about American values.

00:33:47.340 Oh, my gosh.

00:33:48.000 You come out thinking we're bad guys.

00:33:49.820 So you look at something like this today.

00:33:52.480 I mean, you said, you look at the pictures, you and Tanya at Oshawa, you can tell.

00:33:57.020 68% of millennials do not know what Oshawa says.

00:33:59.740 And 22% of millennials have never heard of the Holocaust, have no clue what it is.

00:34:03.740 How many?

00:34:03.900 22% of millennials have never heard of the Holocaust.

00:34:07.360 68% of millennials do not know what Oshawa is.

00:34:10.900 So that's the history.

00:34:12.580 And by the way, the other thing I find intriguing is we've not only beat up our history, we now

00:34:18.660 have, I think, 24 colleges in California where you cannot even get a history major if you

00:34:25.860 want one.

00:34:26.460 If you want one, you can't get it.

00:34:27.780 University of Wisconsin can't get a history major if you want it.

00:34:31.120 So they are not even offering history majors anymore.

00:34:34.340 If you're doing, if you have a history major of world history, it's my understanding that

00:34:40.640 America is not included in that.

00:34:42.480 American history is not included.

00:34:43.540 Don't even go there.

00:34:44.780 Just take a history major.

00:34:47.120 And the top 76 universities in America, if you go there as a history major, as 64 of the

00:34:53.600 76, you will not have a single course on American history, not one.

00:34:57.660 And you're going there as an American history major.

00:34:59.460 How do you tell the story of the world from the Enlightenment to today without America? 0.77

00:35:07.060 You show how good the world would be if America hadn't had slaves and if America hadn't done 1.00

00:35:11.380 all the bad things it did, if America hadn't pressed civil rights.

00:35:14.660 We got 3 percent of the slaves in the slave trade.

00:35:18.480 Three percent.

00:35:19.620 2.3 percent, actually.

00:35:21.160 Sorry.

00:35:21.920 Sorry.

00:35:22.640 2.3.

00:35:23.460 Out of the 12.7 million slaves, 10.5 million made it to their destinations.

00:35:28.840 Of the 10.5 million in four centuries of slave trade, 46 percent went to Portugal and Brazil.

00:35:36.840 26 percent went to Great Britain.

00:35:39.540 11 percent went to France.

00:35:41.580 10 percent went to Jamaica.

00:35:43.620 2.3 percent went to America.

00:35:45.480 Now, everybody today thinks America is the only one involved in the slave trade for four

00:35:49.400 centuries.

00:35:50.420 Now, we shouldn't have had 2.3 percent.

00:35:52.620 I mean, no question, no excuse for that.

00:35:55.360 But we are 2.3 percent.

00:35:56.800 And by the way, America was the first nation to pass a ban on the slave trade and the second

00:36:03.520 nation to end slavery.

00:36:05.700 Well, no, no, no.

00:36:06.600 Mexico.

00:36:07.100 That's right.

00:36:07.680 Third nation.

00:36:08.300 Oh, how could I forget?

00:36:09.140 Mexico.

00:36:09.720 Mexico.

00:36:10.360 Well, they signed a law and said in 100 years.

00:36:14.800 We're betting slavery today. 0.89

00:36:15.780 It'll end in 100 years.

00:36:16.840 It'll end in 100 years.

00:36:17.600 So technically, Mexico is too.

00:36:19.620 Right, right.

00:36:20.140 But yeah, they kept it for 100 years.

00:36:22.660 So, I mean, all the stuff.

00:36:23.840 But back to this.

00:36:25.220 We cherish, or at least used to cherish, certain rights in America.

00:36:30.260 And this little piece right here is an amazing piece.

00:36:35.740 The case.

00:36:36.340 Well, you read it.

00:36:38.540 The case in trial, spelled with a Y, of John Peter Zanger.

00:36:42.980 Never heard of him.

00:36:44.060 Of New York.

00:36:45.120 Printer.

00:36:45.540 Who was lately tried and acquitted for printing and publishing a libel against the government.

00:36:53.680 You see.

00:36:54.700 I've read about this.

00:36:56.680 I just.

00:36:57.360 Oh, my gosh.

00:36:58.260 This changed everything.

00:36:59.920 It changed everything.

00:37:00.480 Because the law said.

00:37:01.500 The law.

00:37:02.280 Excuse me.

00:37:03.080 The law said you cannot criticize the government.

00:37:05.580 He did.

00:37:06.120 And they took him to court and said, the law is really clear.

00:37:09.100 You can't criticize the government.

00:37:10.340 He said, but what if it's true?

00:37:12.760 And he went through and pointed out that everything he said in criticism was true.

00:37:16.920 And the jury said, you know what?

00:37:18.460 He's right.

00:37:19.220 And this is where they came up with the doctrine that truth is an absolute defense against libel.

00:37:24.960 You can libel.

00:37:25.580 You can slander.

00:37:26.140 But if it's true, it's not libel to slander.

00:37:28.020 And so this is what secured freedom of the press.

00:37:30.280 This is where in the Bill of Rights we have freedom of the press.

00:37:33.440 It goes to this trial right here.

00:37:36.120 And this.

00:37:36.720 And here's the old system.

00:37:38.440 The hoarder in me wants it so bad.

00:37:40.580 We've got it, bro.

00:37:41.680 We've got it.

00:37:42.500 Good.

00:37:43.020 So this.

00:37:44.520 This is where back in the day.

00:37:46.780 This is the power of the jury.

00:37:49.380 The jury had the right to set aside the law as well as the sentence.

00:37:54.380 And so in the case of William Penn, the long great Britain called the Conventicle Act said

00:38:01.440 you cannot assemble with more than five people unless they're from the Anglican Church.

00:38:05.780 They didn't want anybody else.

00:38:07.320 And so he would get with Quakers and they were Quakers. 0.80

00:38:10.060 And because he got with Quakers, he spent eight months in the Tower of London dungeon kind of stuff. 1.00

00:38:16.220 William Penn?

00:38:17.180 William Penn.

00:38:18.420 Pennsylvania.

00:38:19.200 Pennsylvania.

00:38:19.600 Eight months in the Tower of London.

00:38:22.620 And when he got to trial, he argued for freedom of conscience and trial.

00:38:26.180 And the jury said, you're exactly right.

00:38:27.960 This guy should not be punished.

00:38:29.220 And the judge was so mad at the jury that he threw them in jail.

00:38:33.460 He took away food, water and heat from the jury until they changed their verdict.

00:38:38.360 Now, they never changed their verdict.

00:38:40.260 Higher court overruled them.

00:38:41.340 But this is where we have the love of trial by jury.

00:38:43.340 But what happened was in about 1890, the Supreme Court of the United States said, you know what?

00:38:48.960 If juries have too much power, we judges should have the power.

00:38:52.760 And so that's when they ruled that the juries could no longer.

00:38:55.920 That's the beginning of the death of common sense.

00:38:57.860 That is.

00:38:58.620 It was.

00:38:59.160 And that's that progressive era.

00:39:00.980 Yeah.

00:39:01.380 They wanted.

00:39:02.080 I mean, I know Jefferson talked about how do we build juries?

00:39:05.640 And there were people who said, oh, we got to get the best doctors and the best, you know, educated people.

00:39:11.360 And he said, no.

00:39:12.820 Of your peers.

00:39:13.560 I want people who have their hands in the dirt. 0.85

00:39:16.320 That's right.

00:39:16.820 Farmers who are regular hardworking guys.

00:39:19.400 Yeah.

00:39:19.580 And that's what they had.

00:39:20.760 And so back then under the Constitution is called trying the law and the fact.

00:39:25.660 So you could try the law and the fact.

00:39:27.460 And the people in Great Britain said the Conventical Act is a crazy law.

00:39:31.220 We disagree with it.

00:39:33.460 Now, what happens today, and this is the evolution of American courts.

00:39:37.120 We used to have what were called courts of justice.

00:39:38.940 Our objective was to make sure we had justice.

00:39:41.060 And if that meant striking down a bad law, we would do that.

00:39:44.160 Holy cow. 0.89

00:39:44.880 To them, we got into what were called courts of law.

00:39:47.460 And that's when the Supreme Court changed in the late 80s or 90s.

00:39:51.620 And they said, look, we'll tell you what the law is.

00:39:53.860 You just decide the facts.

00:39:55.320 And we'll tell you whether the guy's got to be guilty or not.

00:39:58.060 You can decide.

00:39:59.200 But we'll tell you what the law is.

00:40:00.660 You know, it's crazy, David.

00:40:02.180 And by the way, today we don't do law or facts.

00:40:04.640 The courts are defined.

00:40:05.920 The definition of court is a place to settle disputes.

00:40:09.300 No, that's not what courts are for. 0.71

00:40:11.740 They're to uphold the law.

00:40:12.840 They're to give justice.

00:40:13.960 I've talked to several Supreme Court.

00:40:15.860 I'm not Supreme Court.

00:40:16.980 Federal judges.

00:40:18.400 And they have said they are now seeing the craziest verdicts from judges.

00:40:23.920 There is no underpinning anymore.

00:40:26.000 They're like the Constitution, law, nothing.

00:40:29.540 They're going off of feelings now.

00:40:31.280 I will tell you that I am more excited right now about what is happening with judges than any time in my life.

00:40:40.440 I've got more gray hair than you do because I've got several years on you.

00:40:43.680 And I am seeing things happening with the First Amendment that has never been available in my lifetime before.

00:40:52.180 And tell me about it because I'm going to wreck it for you after you tell me about it.

00:40:55.960 I'm going to pull out something because I've got a list of cases I just want to hit.

00:41:01.260 But let's go back to 1962, 63.

00:41:04.680 That's when the Supreme Court said, hey, religion, we're going to redefine all that.

00:41:09.320 And so that's when they said no more voluntary prayer in schools, no more Bible.

00:41:12.660 And then came graduations, then came Ten Commandments, then came nativity scenes, any religious, all gone.

00:41:18.960 And all that hinges really on two cases.

00:41:21.580 One's called the Lemon case because in 62, 63, when they struck everything down, for the next 10 years, people said, well, we've been doing this for centuries.

00:41:30.060 Well, now it's got to go.

00:41:31.660 And so they keep ruling against all these religious expressions that we had for so long.

00:41:35.200 And they said, let's just come up with a test on how you know whether it's constitutional or not.

00:41:40.920 We're not going to use the Constitution to know, but we're not going to do that.

00:41:43.860 So in the case Lemon v. Kurtzman, 1973, after about 10 years of all these cases, they came up with it.

00:41:48.860 And here's their new test.

00:41:50.240 They said.

00:41:50.820 In 1973.

00:41:51.640 In 1973, called the Lemon test.

00:41:54.360 And it says, a religious activity in public will be constitutional if the primary purpose of that religious activity is secular.

00:42:03.540 Oh.

00:42:07.280 Can you name a religious activity whose primary purpose is secular?

00:42:11.120 No.

00:42:12.300 Well, I could say if they wanted to do a pageant of Hello, Dolly. 1.00

00:42:21.360 But they're all one church is doing it.

00:42:23.580 Sure.

00:42:24.860 But you can't win under that standard, which is why even the Ten Commandments came out,

00:42:29.640 because even though it says don't steal and don't kill and don't purge yourself,

00:42:34.340 even though there's more than 50 depictions inside the U.S. Supreme Court of the Ten Commandments,

00:42:38.880 even though it's there, they said, well, the primary purpose is not secular.

00:42:42.420 So we've gotten rid of this now?

00:42:43.840 Oh, yeah.

00:42:44.820 This is what happened three months ago.

00:42:47.280 Three months ago, there was a decision came to the Supreme Court Bladensburg.

00:42:50.800 And here was the deal.

00:42:52.560 The Fourth Circuit, back in 1919, after World War I, 49 mamas in Prince George County, Maryland,

00:43:00.140 lost their sons in World War I.

00:43:02.120 And they said, we want to do a memorial to our sons.

00:43:04.180 I remember this.

00:43:04.860 And they erected what's called the Bladensburg Cross.

00:43:08.060 It's been there for 100 years.

00:43:09.660 They erected it to honor their sons and others who died in the war.

00:43:12.940 And the church has had to mow the lawn because, like, no government money could be spent on upkeep or something like that.

00:43:20.240 No, that was a different one.

00:43:21.220 That's not Soledad.

00:43:22.420 Okay.

00:43:22.760 This was done, and it's done by the city, and it was a government cross.

00:43:27.380 And so I think it's the Fourth Circuit out there.

00:43:29.640 They said, look, we hate this, but you've got to tear the cross down

00:43:33.780 because you can't say the primary purpose of that cross was secular.

00:43:36.800 You could have done an orb.

00:43:38.420 You could have done a pyramid.

00:43:39.460 You did a cross, and there's no way to say the primary purpose is secular.

00:43:43.640 That's a religious symbol.

00:43:45.260 And the court said, we don't like this, but this is what the Supreme Court has told us,

00:43:49.000 and we're stuck with doing it.

00:43:50.960 And so this goes to the—and the problem with this is the Fourth Circuit is what's over Arlington Cemetery.

00:43:57.980 And it's not the private crosses of Arlington Cemetery get torn down.

00:44:01.500 It's the memorial in Arlington Cemetery, two crosses that are part of memorials.

00:44:05.100 And so when it got to the Supreme Court, this was one that was really big

00:44:09.160 because is this Supreme Court—see, the way this had been dealt with before,

00:44:12.680 like Mount Soledad cross, Korean War cross in California,

00:44:17.260 the city just sold it to a private group and said, you guys have it.

00:44:20.220 Now it's not a city cross anymore, so you can keep the cross up.

00:44:23.640 And so that went through, I think, 14 lawsuits before they got this idea of selling it to private groups.

00:44:29.300 And so it gets to the U.S. Supreme Court, and the U.S. Supreme Court said, you can keep the cross.

00:44:35.780 You keep the Bladensburg cross, you leave it up, do not take it down.

00:44:38.620 And the city gets to keep it.

00:44:40.880 It's not in private hands.

00:44:42.060 It's not in private hands.

00:44:43.120 This is a government cross on government property.

00:44:45.560 And the statement the court made, this is really key.

00:44:50.080 They said, longstanding, religiously expressive monuments, symbols, and practices

00:44:55.860 requires a strong presumption of constitutionality.

00:44:59.980 In other words, if you've been doing this for a while, we're going to say it's constitutional.

00:45:02.940 We're going to presume it's constitutional.

00:45:04.820 See, the position we have now is you have to presume it's unconstitutional

00:45:09.140 unless you can prove it is constitutional.

00:45:10.900 They've now said, we're going to presume it's constitutional unless you can prove otherwise.

00:45:14.300 And so the whole landscape has shifted.

00:45:17.800 So what they did was, as a result of that, they came back and said, you know,

00:45:22.000 we've got this World War II cross in Pensacola, Florida, and the courts have said it has to come down.

00:45:27.720 You're going to leave it up because it's been there for a long time.

00:45:30.180 It's a World War II cross.

00:45:31.200 You're going to leave it there.

00:45:32.620 Then they had another case.

00:45:34.900 The case is now at the court cited in Florida, said football prayer.

00:45:39.000 We've been doing that for a century.

00:45:40.420 How many years we had football teams?

00:45:42.200 So we shouldn't have stopped prayer at football games.

00:45:45.960 So the court's now deciding that one.

00:45:47.720 But we wouldn't have had a shot on that before.

00:45:49.660 But now we've got one that's there.

00:45:51.480 We've also got one.

00:45:53.200 The VA department had missing its table like this, missing man table.

00:45:58.260 It's an empty chair.

00:45:59.040 It's a table setting, and no one there, because P-O-W-M-I-A, and they had a Bible there, because it was actually a World War II Bible. 0.82

00:46:07.620 And they had to take it down because there's not a secular purpose for having a Bible on a missing man table.

00:46:13.380 Well, the court came down with a decision.

00:46:15.220 The VA department goes back and said, we've been having military Bibles since 1680.

00:46:19.880 This is a long part of the military.

00:46:21.160 We're putting Bibles back in every VA hospital, and you can give out Bibles, and you can have Bibles.

00:46:26.140 They completely shifted the policy in the VA because of this decision three months ago.

00:46:30.760 Then we've got a decision out.

00:46:32.680 I'm going to show you a picture here.

00:46:34.380 I want you to see this picture.

00:46:35.880 Look at that picture.

00:46:38.160 County of Lehigh, Pennsylvania.

00:46:40.580 It's got a cross.

00:46:43.840 I think there's a pretty visible cross there.

00:46:46.340 Yeah, right in the middle.

00:46:47.280 Is that kind of visible?

00:46:47.940 Yeah, it's bigger than the Liberty Bell in Pennsylvania.

00:46:50.240 In my lifetime, we have never won a cross and a city seal.

00:46:53.660 Even Los Angeles, City of Angels, had a tiny little cross way up there.

00:46:58.960 This is not a tiny cross.

00:47:00.040 There's nine symbols I count.

00:47:01.280 That's a center.

00:47:02.380 And in L.A., had to take the cross out. 0.92

00:47:05.680 Even Zion, Illinois.

00:47:07.440 What's Zion named after a religious town?

00:47:09.220 Right.

00:47:09.740 He's got to take it out.

00:47:10.880 Las Cruces, New Mexico.

00:47:12.660 The crosses.

00:47:13.220 The crosses.

00:47:14.160 You've got to take them out.

00:47:15.320 So we've lost every case.

00:47:16.520 The court came down and said, no, no, this has been 70 years.

00:47:19.760 This is constitutional.

00:47:20.880 We're leaving.

00:47:21.480 That's a big cross and a city seal.

00:47:23.620 That's not a small one.

00:47:24.840 So we won that.

00:47:25.400 So you can't put new stuff in.

00:47:27.400 Well, you don't have to get rid of old stuff.

00:47:29.120 At this point, we're going to be able to put new stuff in because the court's done something else that's pretty cool.

00:47:34.700 And by the way, there's one more just came down Pennsylvania a couple of weeks ago where that they challenged having prayer at the legislature.

00:47:40.800 Because Pennsylvania says, we open our legislature with prayer, and you've got to believe in God to pray.

00:47:46.680 And atheists said, that's discriminating against us.

00:47:48.700 You can't do that.

00:47:49.540 You can't discriminate against us.

00:47:50.660 We want to have a devotional or say an inspirational statement.

00:47:53.740 And the court came back and said, no, no, no.

00:47:55.460 We've been having prayer open in Congress since 1774.

00:47:59.100 It's fine to require a belief in God to pray.

00:48:01.540 I mean, we're winning stuff we've never won in my lifetime, and it's coming down every couple of weeks now.

00:48:07.640 We're seeing another one going, oh, my gosh.

00:48:09.880 Now, the other thing, the other case that's given us real trouble is back in 1980, the Supreme Court said, you know what?

00:48:16.840 We can regulate your free exercise of religion.

00:48:19.940 And so since 1980, even though the Constitution says they can, since 1980 in a case called Oregon v. Smith, they said we can regulate.

00:48:27.520 So since 1980, we don't get to argue religious expression of the court.

00:48:32.200 We argue free speech.

00:48:33.960 So when Coach Joe Kennedy up in Washington State, after a football game, went over by himself and took a knee without the kids,

00:48:40.860 and he just knelt down and said, thank you, God, nobody got hurt in the game, because he took a knee, they fired him because they said that's prayer.

00:48:47.940 You can't do that.

00:48:49.100 So in arguing the case, we can't say that he has the free exercise of religion.

00:48:53.580 What we have to say is he has the right to free speech.

00:48:56.240 And that's his expression.

00:48:57.740 So we can't argue religion.

00:48:59.240 We have to argue speech.

00:49:00.480 So this case made it up to the Supreme Court last year.

00:49:03.320 The Supreme Court sent it back down and said, we notice here that you didn't challenge the Oregon Smith decision.

00:49:08.960 We want you to re-argue the case and challenge the Oregon Smith decision.

00:49:12.080 Give us something to work with.

00:49:13.420 So they're asking this case to come back so they can deal with Oregon Smith, which is the other thing that's killed religion for the last 60, 70 years.

00:49:20.820 So the court has not only given us Bladensburg, which is the establishment clause, they're now asking for a case to get the free exercise clause back.

00:49:30.020 So we're looking at a First Amendment concerning religious speech we haven't had in 70 years, 60 years.

00:49:37.580 So it's a change.

00:49:39.580 It's a good change.

00:49:40.680 And I don't think people understand how much the court systems are changing, both for the good and the bad.

00:49:50.840 The 10th Circuit decision we just had up in Oklahoma and Tulsa and, you know, the stuff with the part that nudity in public is now fine.

00:49:59.720 And so all throughout that district, and so they had these big topless rallies.

00:50:03.880 And, you know, that's a complete reversal.

00:50:05.640 And you're going, my gosh, what are you thinking?

00:50:07.760 And so you're getting crazy decisions, but you're getting good decisions.

00:50:11.600 So here's the problem, David.

00:50:14.840 I think, you know, I've always hated the argument.

00:50:20.000 The founders couldn't have seen this.

00:50:21.620 Yeah, really?

00:50:22.420 Yeah.

00:50:22.800 They did.

00:50:23.540 They didn't see it exactly the way it's happening.

00:50:26.320 They didn't see cars and things like that.

00:50:28.200 That's right.

00:50:28.500 But they were open enough to see the principles, what would happen, and give you the right, as future generations, to augment the Constitution, to fit anything that didn't fit right now.

00:50:43.360 That's right.

00:50:43.840 But here's one thing that I, for the first time, I thought, I don't think they saw this.

00:50:53.540 And you'd be the guy to correct me.

00:50:58.860 Great.

00:50:59.560 The Supreme Court is doing that.

00:51:00.900 But we are entering a time now where the Supreme Court, the government, is covered by the Constitution and Bill of Rights, but corporations aren't.

00:51:11.780 And corporations now are, my free speech in the public square.

00:51:17.960 Well, it used to be the actual public square, the town green.

00:51:21.980 It's Facebook.

00:51:22.980 It's Google.

00:51:23.840 You know, I have a right to my own voice and to let it be heard.

00:51:31.000 Not now.

00:51:31.900 Not now.

00:51:32.760 And they'll relegate you.

00:51:34.660 Oh, no, you can speak.

00:51:35.840 Go outside your house.

00:51:36.920 Speak all you want.

00:51:38.660 But that's, they're not covered by the Constitution.

00:51:43.000 And it's a flaw in the thinking of conservatives that we haven't had a real conversation about it.

00:51:48.640 Where we always say, hey, private company, they can do what they want.

00:51:54.400 And I believe that.

00:51:56.120 However, they are now the virtual world, which I don't think our founders saw.

00:52:02.360 The virtual world is becoming more important than the actual world.

00:52:08.360 Yeah.

00:52:09.420 So all these changes in the Supreme Court, it may not matter in 10 years if we don't get a handle on the virtual world.

00:52:19.520 Part of what happens is they didn't protect that because the Bill of Rights was not meant to protect.

00:52:28.160 It was meant to limit the federal government.

00:52:30.700 And so it wasn't about protecting rights.

00:52:32.700 It was about keeping the government from getting involved in those rights.

00:52:35.080 Right.

00:52:35.260 So did they see, because that's what the Bill of Rights, the Bill of Rights is handcuffs.

00:52:40.400 That's right.

00:52:40.840 Handcuffs.

00:52:41.400 It's not, it's not rights.

00:52:43.240 It's, it's, you will not violate these rights, okay, as the government.

00:52:50.840 Did they ever think, I mean, they had the, you know, what was it, the West India Trading Company or whatever.

00:52:58.180 They had monopolies in those days.

00:52:59.740 They had monopolies.

00:53:00.480 They had monopolies.

00:53:00.880 Did they ever, did they ever talk about how do you, how do you protect against a world run by corporations?

00:53:11.760 Yeah.

00:53:12.260 And they, they did it.

00:53:13.500 It was a virtuous and informed, educated citizenry that got together and said, we're dumping all the tea in the harbor.

00:53:20.400 You've got a monopoly on the tea and we're not going to do that.

00:53:23.260 And so many times it was the people got together and put their foot down.

00:53:27.320 We are so accustomed to convenience today that we are willing to sell our, to use the old phrase, our birthright for a mess of pottage.

00:53:36.420 And so we are not standing up where we don't like what they're doing.

00:53:40.720 And, you know, and so Prager, you, they're, they're suing a federal and state court and trying to, it's, it's a mess.

00:53:46.920 We've allowed monopolies to, to, to get in a place where they were not under the constitution.

00:53:51.660 You didn't have monopolies.

00:53:53.100 I mean, that just wasn't an option.

00:53:54.900 The founders, I don't think saw, um, a world controlled by, um, corporations that were bigger and more powerful than the government.

00:54:06.960 And that were tyrannical.

00:54:08.160 Correct.

00:54:08.480 More tyrannical than the British government ever was.

00:54:10.720 Oh yeah.

00:54:11.440 Yeah.

00:54:11.640 What's happening right now.

00:54:12.840 There's no rhyme or reason and nobody can hold them responsible.

00:54:16.900 Well, yeah, you could have held them responsible because under the bill of rights, you could take them into all 50 courts.

00:54:22.740 Now they're a national corporation, but if you get the feds out of this and get this back into the hands of the states and Texas starts going after Google and, and they are, but they are.

00:54:33.640 And so what happens is it, what, what we're looking for and what we have seen and what justice Breyer is complaining about is that the federal Supreme court is starting to respect the 10th amendment and give jurisdictions back to the states.

00:54:49.000 And it's going to be a whole lot easier to whip Google and state courts than it is in federal courts. 0.84

00:54:53.260 And it's, and it's, I, I mean, this is the thing that people don't understand.

00:54:59.380 They really think that if you're a conservative or if you believe in the constitution, you're, you want to use it for your own, you know, if you, I mean, there are some conservatives that are like, Oh, we'll get them.

00:55:11.460 Um, but I will give you conservatives, constitutionalists will give protection on those rights.

00:55:20.200 Unlike anyone else, right?

00:55:22.780 Because it's the philosophy that you have that right.

00:55:27.820 And I have no place to interfere with you.

00:55:30.860 And we have, we have, we've lost that idea.

00:55:37.120 And so it's, we're, we're not, we're not fighting the right fight.

00:55:42.100 We're not, and we're not fighting at the right levels.

00:55:44.820 One of the things, um, little commentary on what I think is one of the things that's seriously wrong right now is we, I don't care where you get your news.

00:55:57.120 24, seven, three 65 news will all be national.

00:56:00.280 Now you have to work really hard to get local, local news.

00:56:02.840 So we see everything from a more global perspective.

00:56:06.400 Right.

00:56:06.720 And as a result, um, I don't know if anyone, I don't know.

00:56:11.080 And I've got friends everywhere.

00:56:12.620 You do too. 1.00

00:56:13.100 I don't know if anyone who can call the Supreme court and say, are you guys just stupid? 1.00

00:56:17.660 Well, change your vote. 1.00

00:56:19.300 We can't get them to change the vote. 0.96

00:56:21.100 I can't, you know, I can't get the Senate to, to get rid of the stupid rule 22 filibuster rule. 0.96

00:56:26.860 Let's get back to a majority like the founders wanted. 0.97

00:56:28.900 I can't call Pelosi and say equality act. 0.95

00:56:32.320 Are you crazy? 0.98

00:56:33.240 You're violating every constitutional. 0.99

00:56:35.500 I can't do that.

00:56:36.540 And so what happens is if I can't do it, if you can't do it and we're well connected, what's the average citizen going to do?

00:56:41.660 Yeah.

00:56:41.940 And so what happens?

00:56:42.640 And so you get paralyzed, you get totally paralyzed and you'd stir up your hands.

00:56:47.060 What I love about the American revolution is when you look at the first four battles in the revolution, if you take the battle of Lexington, the battle of Concord, a couple hours later, a couple hours after that, the road to Boston, 19 mile battle.

00:57:00.260 And then if you go to the fourth battle, Bunker Hill, nobody called headquarters nationally and said, George, what do you want us to do?

00:57:08.580 In Lexington, Reverend Jonas Clark said, this is my town.

00:57:11.640 I'll take care of it.

00:57:12.580 And he got 70 guys from his church to go out and fight the 800 British. 0.99

00:57:16.220 Two hours later in Concord, Reverend William Emerson had 300 guys out there fought the British.

00:57:21.440 And British said, this is bad.

00:57:22.460 We've got to get out of here.

00:57:23.220 They turn and run the 19 miles to get back to Boston and all along the way is between four and 5,000 Americans taking them on locally.

00:57:30.680 It's Reverend Payson Phillips, Reverend Benjamin Boss.

00:57:33.320 All these guys got the church out there because the church was the leader in that day.

00:57:37.460 But nobody went to George and said it's a national battle.

00:57:40.060 We actually won the revolution out by having national battles.

00:57:42.620 We won all the local battles.

00:57:44.360 George filled in where we needed it.

00:57:45.740 It is.

00:57:46.320 It's the same thing.

00:57:48.200 People talk about first responders and it drives me nuts.

00:57:51.260 That started in the 70s with Jimmy Carter talking about first responders.

00:57:56.920 We are the first responders.

00:57:58.960 We're the first responders.

00:58:00.320 When somebody breaks into your house, you are the first responder.

00:58:04.500 Well, you know, James Wilson, who one of only six guys who signed the Declaration and the Constitution,

00:58:11.200 George Washington puts him on the U.S. Supreme Court as an original justice.

00:58:15.040 He writes, he starts the first law school in America.

00:58:17.380 He teaches law in the law school while he's sitting on the Supreme Court.

00:58:21.200 We've actually got his law books.

00:58:23.340 And when it comes to the Second Amendment stuff, he says, if someone breaks into your home and something happens, you're the only one responsible.

00:58:31.620 It's not the response time of police.

00:58:33.460 It's your house.

00:58:34.600 It's your castle.

00:58:35.480 You're supposed to defend it.

00:58:36.180 If I'm not mistaken, if you had somebody break into your house and you didn't stop them, the next house they robbed, you were responsible.

00:58:47.500 You're the guy.

00:58:48.160 Right.

00:58:48.600 Because you didn't.

00:58:49.460 And see, this is where we don't have the mentality, if I'm going to do everything I can do right now, we're looking for somebody else to do it.

00:58:56.580 And let me just use a Christian example, us being Christian.

00:59:00.940 Let me take that example.

00:59:02.580 We have missionaries all over the world because we think the Christian faith is terrific.

00:59:06.760 You know, we've got a fulfilled life and we have purpose and worth and filled destiny.

00:59:11.920 So what we've been doing in the Christian church for 2,000 years is sending missionaries everywhere.

00:59:16.460 And so now 32% of the world is Christian because we put billions and hundreds of billions into doing that for 2,000 years.

00:59:23.620 Here's a novel idea.

00:59:25.140 What if every single individual Christian just said, you know, I'm going to share my faith with somebody else?

00:59:30.420 32% of the world, if we did that one person, one person this year, I don't care about anyone, I'm going to do one person.

00:59:36.860 At the end of this year, we're 64% of the world Christian.

00:59:39.380 At the end of two years, the whole world is Christian. 1.00

00:59:41.720 If just individuals say, I can't do anybody else's, I'll do one.

00:59:45.460 And if I do one, but see, that's what wins the American Revolution, is I'm going to fight the battle in my community.

00:59:51.780 I don't care what's happening in New York.

00:59:53.360 I don't care what they're doing in California.

00:59:54.800 I have no interest in Alabama.

00:59:56.380 I live right here in Jack County, Texas, and I'm going to win this battle.

01:00:01.100 You know, I think what's happening with the EU right now and how it's, that thing is just, that's a mess.

01:00:07.280 It's a mess.

01:00:08.580 Yep.

01:00:09.180 And a lot of those young nations are really, really giving them fits in the right way.

01:00:13.540 Good.

01:00:14.060 Good.

01:00:14.280 Yeah.

01:00:14.860 What's happening in the EU is if they would have done the American thing, not now, but originally, they would have gone to them and said, Italy, you're fantastic.

01:00:28.340 You've got all this culture and everything else.

01:00:30.660 You know how to run your country.

01:00:32.040 That's right.

01:00:32.440 You run your country.

01:00:33.240 When it comes to trade, we're going to make sure that you and Germany can trade and it's easy to get along.

01:00:42.140 But be yourself.

01:00:43.780 Fly that flag.

01:00:45.120 You know, you could fly.

01:00:46.440 You could fly the EU flag because we're all together, but fly it underneath even or fly it side by side.

01:00:52.180 Fly your state flag and fly the United States flag.

01:00:54.540 Correct.

01:00:54.740 And that's where we were.

01:00:57.360 People don't understand that where we went wrong, really seriously wrong, was in around 1880 when you started having this philosophy coming out of the German universities.

01:01:11.780 The people who trained the Nazis were the ones who gave us this kind of theory. 0.62

01:01:19.040 And we didn't have a doctorate program.

01:01:20.840 It got into education.

01:01:21.480 It got into church.

01:01:22.580 It got into everything.

01:01:23.460 Everything.

01:01:23.980 Politics.

01:01:24.820 It was.

01:01:25.160 Everything.

01:01:25.460 And it's German.

01:01:27.780 And what that led to were the Nazis, you know, and and communism. 0.61

01:01:33.900 Yeah.

01:01:34.280 And everybody's just shoving them in.

01:01:37.580 You know, I.

01:01:40.140 When I was growing up, you could go to a town and it would be different.

01:01:45.120 It would be different now because of, you know, mass marketing and and and, you know, all good things.

01:01:53.200 You know, you can go to and get a gap anywhere, but it's all the same.

01:01:58.720 Traveling is not nearly as fun as it used to be because you'd see the people were different and they were OK with that.

01:02:08.060 And you could go, oh, my gosh, you've never been here.

01:02:11.420 You've got to go because the people are doing this.

01:02:14.740 And if it was a good idea, you'd take it back home and you do it in your state. 0.99

01:02:19.300 You know, right now, California is so frickin screwed up. 0.97

01:02:24.400 So is New York. 0.97

01:02:25.780 Texas is doing really well.

01:02:28.000 I don't have any problems with California.

01:02:30.680 Yeah.

01:02:31.280 Except California is requiring me to pay for their mistake.

01:02:34.840 That's right.

01:02:35.480 You know, and they expect everyone else to live to their standard.

01:02:40.300 If they want to do that to their state, go for it.

01:02:43.800 Go for it.

01:02:44.460 The coerciveness that we have right now is the highest it's been in my lifetime.

01:02:48.820 The intolerance is high, but it's not just intolerance.

01:02:52.140 It's you're going to do what I want.

01:02:54.240 You're going to do what I say.

01:02:56.260 And so California now is we have six states punishing nine states because six states actually in Texas, we think there ought to be a male and female bathroom. 1.00

01:03:05.520 You know, California doesn't.

01:03:07.020 But they're not not when you can do that.

01:03:09.020 Fine.

01:03:09.360 But they're not allowing any of their government employees to come here.

01:03:12.120 And that's what the founders called the right of expatriation.

01:03:15.720 And that's the right to travel freely among the states.

01:03:18.560 And that's what we had in the Constitution, two clauses.

01:03:21.440 And now we have six states saying we disagree with that state.

01:03:24.800 You can't travel to that state.

01:03:26.140 You got to stay out.

01:03:27.480 No, we got the right to travel freely among states.

01:03:30.480 Now, I may not live in California.

01:03:31.960 I may visit there and I like their beaches or I like whatever.

01:03:34.960 But I'm going to live in Texas or wherever I choose to live.

01:03:37.440 And I'll live by their rules while I'm visiting there.

01:03:39.760 While I'm there.

01:03:40.420 That's fine.

01:03:41.220 They've got crazy gun laws. 1.00

01:03:42.860 Right.

01:03:43.080 And if I decide to move there, I'll work to change the laws in, you know.

01:03:47.840 That's right.

01:03:48.780 But don't try to bring California.

01:03:50.300 Don't force me to do it.

01:03:51.360 That's right.

01:03:51.860 I've always, my whole life, I've wanted to live in California.

01:03:55.240 I'm a West Coast guy.

01:03:56.640 I grew up in Seattle.

01:03:58.920 When I land anywhere on the Pacific seaboard.

01:04:02.600 You're home.

01:04:03.080 I'm home.

01:04:03.720 No matter where I am.

01:04:04.740 Oregon, Washington, doesn't matter.

01:04:06.320 Vancouver, I'm home.

01:04:08.980 And I feel that way.

01:04:11.080 I've always wanted to live there.

01:04:12.740 It's my favorite weather.

01:04:13.900 It's my favorite everything.

01:04:15.040 It's my favorite time period, even, of all of the housing and everything else.

01:04:19.940 I wouldn't live there.

01:04:21.860 That's right.

01:04:22.500 If you paid me a bazillion dollars a year, I would not.

01:04:26.020 They're so coercive.

01:04:26.640 Yeah.

01:04:27.060 I wouldn't live there.

01:04:28.280 I'm fine with that.

01:04:29.760 I'm fine with that.

01:04:30.400 Why are you making me live like you?

01:04:32.760 And why are you making me subsidize?

01:04:34.780 Correct.

01:04:35.100 Your mistakes.

01:04:35.920 That's right.

01:04:36.400 Look, it's crazy that we are still talking about universal health care nationally.

01:04:41.680 Vermont.

01:04:42.480 And it's no coincidence that the press didn't cover this.

01:04:45.920 Vermont.

01:04:47.080 As we're doing all of this Obamacare, Vermont decides they're going to do whatever it is.

01:04:53.440 It's like, I don't remember, it's maple syrup care or whatever the hell it was.

01:04:58.560 It's one of those.

01:04:59.820 I think it's, I'm pretty sure it's Vermont.

01:05:01.620 It may be New Hampshire.

01:05:02.700 I think it was Vermont.

01:05:03.340 I think it's Vermont.

01:05:04.340 Vermont.

01:05:04.660 You know this?

01:05:05.240 Yeah.

01:05:05.700 Yeah.

01:05:05.800 So, they started their own universal health care and they said, we're going to do it and

01:05:12.100 we're going to do it right.

01:05:13.760 It went bankrupt.

01:05:15.620 They couldn't do it.

01:05:17.340 It didn't last.

01:05:18.000 David, is there any doubt in your mind?

01:05:19.660 You're a lifelong Texas, born and bred in Texas.

01:05:22.520 Is there any doubt in your mind if Vermont had a way to come up and pay for everybody's

01:05:29.680 health care and it was great and it was working, is there any doubt in your mind that Texans

01:05:35.060 wouldn't say, you know what, let's look at that?

01:05:36.940 Oh, no.

01:05:37.660 If they came up with it and it worked.

01:05:40.400 And it worked.

01:05:40.960 Everybody would.

01:05:42.060 Right.

01:05:42.520 We would voluntarily adopt what works.

01:05:44.740 Correct.

01:05:45.320 We're selfish enough to say, I want what's good for me.

01:05:48.020 Right.

01:05:48.660 The only reason why this isn't tried state by state is because every time it does.

01:05:53.200 It doesn't work.

01:05:54.160 It fails and states can't do one thing that the federal government can do.

01:06:00.460 Print money.

01:06:01.300 Well, you know, it's an interesting argument.

01:06:03.500 It's not logical.

01:06:04.720 But with the LTP program that we have in the summer for youth leadership, Mercury One joins

01:06:13.060 with you, Glenn, who I'll bring, let kids know about it.

01:06:16.880 But we'll bring in kids in the summer for two weeks and they get to handle all these

01:06:20.740 documents.

01:06:21.260 They learn the origins of all of our rights and how to protect them, et cetera.

01:06:24.660 But they get apologetics on history, on American exceptionalism, on economics.

01:06:28.440 Explain apologetics because most people don't even know what apologetics are.

01:06:31.060 Apologetics means know why you believe what you believe and be able to defend it.

01:06:34.280 It's that simple.

01:06:35.500 Most people know what they believe.

01:06:36.780 They can't defend it and they don't know why they believe it.

01:06:38.900 Roger Ailes.

01:06:39.560 I did.

01:06:40.740 I did an interview with Roger Ailes at Fox and he invited me out to dinner twice and we

01:06:48.200 just talked and he was charming and fine and it was great.

01:06:53.920 And then he wanted to talk to me about working there.

01:06:56.440 And so he said, come have dinner.

01:07:00.620 And I was like, okay, that's great because they've been fun.

01:07:03.260 We talk about George Washington and all kinds of stuff.

01:07:06.280 And I sat down with him and he said, no chit chat.

01:07:12.620 First thing he said to me.

01:07:13.560 No warmth at all.

01:07:14.720 No, no warmth.

01:07:15.740 Wow.

01:07:15.960 And he said, what are your thoughts on the 1972 treaty with China?

01:07:21.880 And I went.

01:07:23.520 That's your opening conversation.

01:07:24.980 Yeah.

01:07:25.180 That was first question.

01:07:26.260 He didn't even say, I think he may have said hello.

01:07:28.720 Um, and he said, he asked me that and I said, I, I don't know anything about the 1972 treaty.

01:07:37.820 I, I haven't spent any time on that.

01:07:39.880 And he went, hmm.

01:07:42.360 He didn't talk to me for like five, six minutes.

01:07:45.520 Not a word.

01:07:46.300 Didn't look at dinner with him.

01:07:47.740 Just cutting his steak and just nothing.

01:07:50.900 And I'm like, okay.

01:07:52.300 And then he said, so Eisenhower, tell me, tell me the five best things about the Eisenhower

01:08:03.380 administration.

01:08:04.480 And I sat there and I thought to myself, I'm dead.

01:08:07.740 I'm doomed.

01:08:08.520 And I said, you know, Roger, um, I have two ways to play this.

01:08:15.720 I could either bluff, but I think you're smart enough to know that I'm bluffing.

01:08:20.640 Or I could just come clean and say, I don't know that one either.

01:08:26.660 And if I do that, I think I'm probably not going to get any job, but I'm going to go

01:08:32.520 with that one.

01:08:33.820 He didn't talk to me for another five minutes.

01:08:35.880 Oh, wow.

01:08:36.680 He threw me up against the wall for two and a half hours.

01:08:39.880 He said, what's your problem with the Catholic church?

01:08:42.560 And I said, what?

01:08:43.920 He said, you left the Catholic church to join your, your religion.

01:08:47.300 Why, why would you do that?

01:08:48.600 What was wrong with the Catholic church?

01:08:49.620 And he threw me up against the wall over and over and over and over again.

01:08:55.340 And I had to think on my feet and I had to be honest.

01:08:59.420 He ended the conversation.

01:09:01.120 I thought, I mean, I think I lost 10 pounds for just in sweat.

01:09:05.620 And, uh, and my head was spinning as we got up from dinner.

01:09:09.460 And he said to me, uh, I thought there's, you know, this was just a nightmare and there's

01:09:16.580 no way we're ever going to see each other again.

01:09:18.680 And he put his coat on and he looks at me and for the first time he smiles and he puts his hand out and he said, it's really rare that you get to have, uh, an evening of conversation with somebody who knows what they know, knows what they don't know.

01:09:37.660 And can defend themselves.

01:09:42.280 That's apologetics.

01:09:43.460 That's apologetics.

01:09:44.520 I, he wanted to know, Hey, are you going to crack under pressure?

01:09:48.940 Are you going to lie under pressure?

01:09:50.320 Um, are you going to be arrogant and think that you're the smartest man in the room, but more importantly, why do you believe the things you believe?

01:09:58.200 Yeah, that's game changing.

01:10:00.060 And in, in, in a human's life, that's game, game changing.

01:10:04.120 And that's where so many young people get attacked by professors who are very good.

01:10:09.220 And one of the greatest forms is mockery.

01:10:11.680 I can't believe you actually, and they don't know why they believe it.

01:10:15.760 And they've been made fun of for whatever they believe.

01:10:18.080 And so they'll abandon it very quickly.

01:10:20.580 And as a result, they can't defend what they believe.

01:10:23.580 They've been kind of coerced into it.

01:10:25.620 Uh, I was doing a little article the other day.

01:10:28.520 I don't mean to be logical here, but let me be logical for a minute.

01:10:31.760 The thing that happened a week or so ago where they had the 3,600 strikes of young people because of climate change and all the signs of, well, you're enjoying your life.

01:10:40.340 I will be dead.

01:10:41.640 And so all this fear that's, that's out there.

01:10:44.760 And so I started looking.

01:10:46.580 Um, do you know how many, I don't, I'm asking, do you know how many hurricanes we have a year?

01:10:51.820 No.

01:10:52.700 I don't know.

01:10:54.300 15, 20, I'm typhoons on one hemisphere.

01:10:57.160 Yeah, I have no idea.

01:10:58.240 I don't know.

01:10:59.620 Maybe 10.

01:11:00.920 Um, and then if you throw in tornadoes, you know, we have about 200 a year in the United States.

01:11:06.960 I don't know where it is elsewhere.

01:11:08.320 And then when you, when you throw in, uh, volcanoes, I guess maybe 10 or 12 Gulf, I don't know.

01:11:16.480 According to NASA, one hurricane is the equivalent of 10,000 nuclear weapons.

01:11:22.820 One hurricane.

01:11:23.600 One volcano is 10,000 atomic weapons.

01:11:29.440 And I started looking, I said, so every year we've got like 2 million atomic or nuclear weapons

01:11:35.920 going off and the planet still seems to be pretty good shape.

01:11:39.480 So what is it we think we're going to do to damage the planet?

01:11:43.680 I mean, if nature itself has that much destructive planet and we can't even tell the difference,

01:11:50.560 what are you kids worried about?

01:11:52.660 I'm not quite sure I understand this.

01:11:55.520 Well, it's the carbon dioxide.

01:11:56.900 Yeah, but the carbon dioxide that comes out of one erupting volcano is more than you'll produce in a generation.

01:12:02.300 And it's like, we're not even logical, but they have been so scared into certain things and, you know.

01:12:10.160 Shamed and mocked into it.

01:12:12.680 And there's a thing about people.

01:12:15.200 Nobody wants to be a pariah.

01:12:17.060 Nobody wants to be a pariah. 0.99

01:12:19.160 You know, are you born gay? 0.97

01:12:21.000 Well, I think some people are. 0.90

01:12:22.600 I think some people, you know, choose whatever.

01:12:26.800 But nobody except a sadist goes, you know, I want to be an outcast.

01:12:32.300 I want to be mocked and ridiculed by everybody.

01:12:35.420 You all, everyone wants to be a part of the cool kid table.

01:12:39.840 Yeah, they do.

01:12:41.380 Right.

01:12:41.740 And so when the cool kids are mocking you, you grew up.

01:12:45.460 And see, that's where if you can get, if you can get young people to get their feet down,

01:12:49.760 know why they believe it, know what the benefits are.

01:12:52.520 You've seen both sides.

01:12:53.740 You've examined all the evidence.

01:12:55.260 It's like a jury.

01:12:56.280 And that's what we kind of do at the leadership training program is we kind of have them be a jury.

01:13:00.880 Give you both sides.

01:13:01.900 Look at it.

01:13:02.880 Where does it happen to slant?

01:13:03.880 The first thing that happens is the leadership training program, which again, Mercury One does.

01:13:09.140 Wall Builders is a partner in that.

01:13:11.240 And we bring these 40 kids in for two weeks.

01:13:16.400 And we do it three times during the summer.

01:13:19.780 And they come in and some of them are very clear on what they believe and what they don't believe.

01:13:25.600 But the first thing you do is you just ask them questions.

01:13:30.420 We just deconstruct them.

01:13:31.420 What do you believe?

01:13:31.920 We don't care what they believe, what side they're on.

01:13:34.640 We just make them.

01:13:35.380 I believe in I believe in Jesus.

01:13:37.240 Really?

01:13:37.580 Why?

01:13:38.120 Yeah.

01:13:38.280 You know, even things that we believe in, they'll come in and say, because you have to tear them down.

01:13:45.500 You have to get to a place to where they go.

01:13:48.440 Well, I don't know.

01:13:49.780 I never thought about it.

01:13:50.880 Good.

01:13:52.040 That's the beginning.

01:13:53.700 Well, the thing that comes out with socialism, because the stats we've seen, we see stats that right now up to 75 percent of college students support socialism.

01:14:04.460 It's 69 percent of millennials support socialism and 41 percent of the entire nation support socialism.

01:14:10.860 That's crazy.

01:14:11.540 So which means, you know, a typical kid coming in, three out of four are going to believe socialism.

01:14:17.780 And so we'll just ask them, why do you think that's a good deal, et cetera?

01:14:20.580 And then we'll ask them, OK, the world's been around 5,500 years recorded history, several thousand nations history of the world.

01:14:29.880 Can you name a single nation?

01:14:32.440 Can you name any nation where socialism has produced prosperity and freedom?

01:14:37.060 Yeah.

01:14:38.120 The Netherlands, Sweden, they're great.

01:14:41.580 Yeah.

01:14:42.100 And Sweden, it's interesting to see even their social media in Sweden.

01:14:47.640 Quit saying we're socialist.

01:14:49.560 We're not so, you know.

01:14:50.760 The prime minister flew over here to give a press conference to say, stop saying this.

01:14:55.600 We're not.

01:14:56.560 They are actually more free in business than we are right now.

01:15:00.040 That's right.

01:15:00.960 And so when we eventually get the kids down to it, we say, why have they all failed?

01:15:07.100 And they say, well, they've never done it right.

01:15:08.700 And we say, what would you do different that would make it work?

01:15:11.540 And they can never give an answer to that.

01:15:13.400 They can they never provide an answer.

01:15:15.600 And so we've gotten into this thing of we just respond to what's out there.

01:15:22.140 You know, we were talking about Google and everything.

01:15:24.320 We don't even know why we believe what we believe on that or how we haven't thought through.

01:15:30.360 How would I do?

01:15:31.380 How how can I get Google?

01:15:32.880 What could we do that would get them to respond differently?

01:15:35.140 What we don't even think about that.

01:15:36.540 We look for somebody else to solve the problem.

01:15:38.220 And until we become self-sufficient individuals who are confident with what we know.

01:15:43.080 And, you know, you were talking about founding fathers, things that they didn't foresee.

01:15:47.100 And I firmly believe that I was asked to go to Ukraine to help them do a constitution.

01:15:51.600 So in Ukraine, they they became an independent nation from Russia, I think, in 92.

01:15:56.860 They didn't have experience of freedom.

01:15:58.600 They threw together the constitution.

01:15:59.580 It's not great.

01:16:00.240 They got a lot of corruption.

01:16:01.520 So spent time in their law schools and in their government schools, et cetera.

01:16:05.620 What does an American tell a Ukrainian about how to do a constitution, copy of the American constitution? 0.99

01:16:12.020 That doesn't help them.

01:16:13.960 And so what I what I did and what I think is so significant, what I think the founding fathers did so well.

01:16:19.460 I went over there.

01:16:20.740 I bought some really old books, 1400s, 1500s, 1600 books.

01:16:24.880 I bought Grotius books by Hugo Grotius and Samuel Pufendorf.

01:16:29.660 I took books by I took books by Blackstone and Montesquieu and Locke.

01:16:37.200 And so I took these five over and then I had a bunch of science books.

01:16:40.860 So Robert Boyle and Isaac Newton got his science books.

01:16:45.060 You got Kepler.

01:16:46.300 You got all these guys.

01:16:48.340 And so I said, you know, these guys, Boyle lived 500 years ago.

01:16:53.440 I mean, 500 years ago, he gave us Boyle's laws of gases.

01:16:56.440 It's because of Boyle's laws of gases that I scuba dive.

01:17:00.680 Now, I guarantee you, 500 years ago, he did not think anyone would ever be underwater breathing.

01:17:05.260 Never crossed his mind.

01:17:06.700 Doesn't matter.

01:17:07.280 We took the principles he gave us and we use different technology with the principles.

01:17:11.180 The principles are sound.

01:17:12.860 Newton gave us the laws of gravity and the laws of motion.

01:17:16.440 I'm a pilot.

01:17:17.180 Only reason I can fly a plane is because I understand the second law of motion, Bernoulli's principle.

01:17:21.740 Now, Newton never thought anybody would be in a plane flying above the earth.

01:17:25.160 Doesn't matter.

01:17:26.540 We take his principles.

01:17:28.180 And that's what I think we miss so often is we don't understand the principles that undergird what we do because we can add technology all day long and it does not change the principle.

01:17:37.420 That principle will not change.

01:17:39.560 And what the founding fathers gave us with a set of principles that have lasted, the average Constitution lasts 17 years in the history of the world.

01:17:48.200 We're now 232 years.

01:17:50.080 Those principles work.

01:17:51.080 And so all this all this pressure that they're outdated.

01:17:55.100 And we now have Justice Breyer who wrote a book saying we've got to get away from the Constitution.

01:17:59.760 She we have Ginsburg who looks to the South African Constitution.

01:18:04.180 That's right.

01:18:04.720 Which is already folded.

01:18:06.120 Already folded.

01:18:07.340 She I guess she likes mentoring. 0.90

01:18:10.420 She spends her three months traveling young nations and helping their judiciary consistently says do not use the American Constitution.

01:18:16.960 Terrible.

01:18:17.300 Use Nigeria. 0.99

01:18:17.860 Use South Africa. 0.97

01:18:18.660 Use whatever.

01:18:19.540 We've got Judge Richard Posner who just came out with the book says judges need to stop following the Constitution.

01:18:25.100 It's old.

01:18:25.540 It's outdated.

01:18:26.660 It's like saying the laws of gravity are outdated.

01:18:28.680 It's like saying the Kepler's.

01:18:31.220 All men are created equal and endowed by a creator with certain and alienable rights. 0.93

01:18:35.160 It never goes out of date.

01:18:36.260 It's the greatest mission statement ever.

01:18:38.100 And so getting getting kids to understand that which is you know what what we see with the leadership training program is transformational stuff because I kind of look at them like the founding fathers.

01:18:50.420 They actually use their brain.

01:18:51.900 They think they now know how to reason through.

01:18:54.780 They can defend their beliefs and they're willing to change their beliefs if they get evidence for it.

01:18:59.240 We teach them to go after truth.

01:19:01.060 Wherever truth leads you that's where you want to be.

01:19:03.280 And sometimes it's very uncomfortable.

01:19:05.140 Very uncomfortable.

01:19:05.760 And sometimes it's not what your tribe is saying.

01:19:08.920 Sometimes you have to be with the other tribe because that's what truth is. 0.64

01:19:11.860 Yeah.

01:19:12.180 And so the ability to follow truth rather than belong to a tribe.

01:19:17.100 That's a big deal in today's culture because the tribalism is massive.

01:19:21.200 Because we've lost the most important tribe.

01:19:24.660 And that is the tribe that believes all men are created equal and endowed by the creator with certain rights.

01:19:30.900 Because because we no longer believe that we have to break up into little tribes and it doesn't work.

01:19:38.460 We were having dinner last night with a university president president and yeah really nice guy.

01:19:45.840 And he said I am starting to tell people now when parents ask me I'm now starting to say don't send your kids to college.

01:19:55.800 I was floored by that yeah it's a university president and he said there's so a very successful one by the way yeah and he said they are so off track are are the he said Hillsdale and University of the Ozarks right and that's the College of the Ozarks.

01:20:14.900 He said other than that he said everything's off track just it's just they are they are indoctrination camps and I said I keep telling my wife this I why would I we've spent 18 years trying to mold these kids and to teach them how to think not what to think how to think I'm gonna just I'm going to pay somebody to just destroy that.

01:20:43.120 Yeah and pay a high price destroy and by the way there was a University of Connecticut study that came out even if I mean I'm with you destroy faith and worldview and philosophy terrible.

01:20:56.280 But the University of Connecticut came out with a study that proved what they called negative learning.

01:21:01.360 They actually followed kids through four years of college at what are considered elite universities and they found that testing the kids going out as seniors they actually knew less academically than when they came in as freshmen.

01:21:13.960 They actually lost knowledge in that period of time.

01:21:16.100 So you pay extensive money six-figure money to have them lose their faith their character their belief and they lose knowledge along the way.

01:21:24.800 So we were we were talking last night because we were talking to this guy about our leadership training program and I don't want to break any news and make an announcement.

01:21:35.480 We are we are we are actively engaged in a collecting all of this history but then giving access to this at home and also teaching it because he said get an apprenticeship.

01:21:58.100 And then take then take then take real specific courses on what you want to learn skill courses and and what you want to learn and then look for great teachers of how to think that's on certain subjects not what to think not what to think that's right.

01:22:18.500 And and and I'm I have to tell you David I'm really excited about what we're working on and and I think this has been that is the future talking this vision for 10 years and years I know and we're now we're looking over the threshold getting close to seeing this come in the house and it really is.

01:22:38.740 Can I can we share the conversation that we had recently about how I've said we have to change.

01:22:45.100 Do you think that's worth saying David and I we've been partners now for a long time and we both have the same heart and we both have the same vision on on so much and our priorities have been to first teach people how to help themselves locally.

01:23:10.140 That was the first goal of Mercury one is let's not reinvent the wheel let's help people who are actually making a difference where they are in their community right and find the people who are making those changes with the least amount of waste.

01:23:25.800 You know we look at charity as an investment in people.

01:23:28.960 I want to invest in somebody that's going to be able to make the biggest impact in their community.

01:23:33.800 So that was the first one the second the second goal was to to gather the history and something that came you know 10 11 years ago and I think I first told you before anybody else keep feeling and hearing clay pots.

01:23:51.380 And I think that means one of two things and I think it actually means both preserve the history and then put it in a safe place.

01:24:01.820 But also and by the way that is the Dead Sea Scrolls the Dead Sea Scrolls were in clay pots.

01:24:06.780 Yes have been put away for 2000 years why they exist.

01:24:09.920 That's why they exist because clay pots preserve that history preserve the faith.

01:24:15.020 Right so I saw that at that time and David you and I were talking and I said we need to preserve this history and we need to have a place where it is safe for whatever might come our way because I don't trust you know if the government goes rogue and they have all of the documents and everything else you know you're not going to see it.

01:24:37.700 Yeah so do that but also look at our children as clay pots and plant it deep inside of them and and so we we have been focused on the first part of clay pots and we have dabbled strongly I think in planting it and we've been testing it for a few years and it's working really well and testing it and and I think because of the time we live in David and I

01:25:07.680 I just had a conversation just recently about how I don't want to build a building I don't want I it we're losing too much time we've got to teach children yeah and it is it's one of the reasons why we were meeting with we've got to teach them principles not indoctrinate them oh I mean if you I've been so exciting about the LTP when I this when I come because I come at the very first day

01:25:37.680 so I meet everybody the first day and I know the ones who are like you know got a chip on their shoulder or they came because somebody said you should go there and you should talk to these guys because you'll rat them out you know or whatever and I so I see where everybody is and then I see everybody at the very end and most of them are crying when they come up to me and they're like this has totally changed my life and it's exciting it is exciting it's exciting

01:26:07.300 and I and I I don't know how to say this well but every session we've had at least one kid who's gone back and changed their professor yeah by asking their professor the questions they were asked and their professor can't answer the questions and good for the professor we're willing enough to look for truth that they actually changed but one of our students was actually teaching their professor that's

01:26:37.300 the professor the professor said it was great yeah he got he got this this student's essay back or paperback and wrote on it you are either the dumbest person ever and you deserve an F because you're making stuff up or you know stuff I don't know yeah come see me and she went in and said no professor here here and here let's look it up together and he said I didn't know any of this yeah I didn't know any of this

01:27:07.300 he said he said where did you learn this yeah she said I just went to this leadership training program for a couple weeks and we went through all the original documents we went through the stuff and we and he said that's it let's come in once a week I want you to show me the stuff that you learn and she took her notes from the summer and just started taking him through all those things so let's let's end this here we need a couple of things and didn't really talk about doing this but I think this is a good place to do it need a couple of things we need an army of people

01:27:37.300 that can can take original documents handwritten documents and then write them out transcribe them transcribe them and and and accurately transcribe them and we you know if we had 120,000 people we could get it done in one day that's right just just your collection so we need we need people that are willing to carefully prayerfully and

01:28:07.040 uh patriotically really go and look at them and make sure those things are right some of them aren't that that are shattering remarkable you know they may be a land deed they may be a uh jury summons we don't know what they are all of them which is another handwritten and a lot of them are by founding fathers who signed the documents and they just gotta be transcribed um because what we're doing is we're building a website and hopefully it'll come out be ready maybe next year at least to start the start of it um uh where you'll be able to find

01:28:36.840 you know david and you know david and i were talking yesterday i want to be able to go you know free speech and it'll pull up all the original documents and you'll be able to do your own research there and

01:28:47.420 you will have the greatest footnote i loved what you said about one of the ltp students that came just last year and said

01:28:55.500 goes to a really good university and said i i've never been asked for so many footnotes ever yeah um because we are

01:29:03.840 rigorous on that well you know after we get them for a week and a half and they start knowing that

01:29:09.620 we're giving them a lot of knowledge and a lot of things on both sides we get to where we say why do

01:29:14.160 you believe what i just told you you should be asking me how do you know that where did you get that

01:29:19.180 information why are you just because we've had you for a week why are you believing us right and so don't

01:29:24.280 trust us right don't trust us is child and that's where they get that footnote stuff go back and find a

01:29:29.740 footnote for everything and you document and you can't use wikipedia as a source sorry you got to

01:29:34.560 use an original source somewhere right i'd also ask if if you have uh things even things from today

01:29:43.180 like people think it's crazy but um you know we just as an object we just bought uh those betsy ross nike

01:29:51.540 shoes yeah because that's a part of american history to tell the story of how screwed up these companies

01:29:57.720 were i'm trying to get a pair of vans now because they had vans had the sneaker made for the hong kong

01:30:04.900 uh um protests oh wow and vans pulled them off because it offended china um but we need we need you

01:30:14.420 to collect even things today yeah um that will be historic and just let us know if you have things

01:30:22.200 that you would like to be preserved we can preserve those things if you just don't know what to do

01:30:28.320 with them we can also if you have something of real value we may end up purchasing it or we can put you

01:30:34.900 in touch with people who uh you know do that for a living or if you want to contribute it we'll take

01:30:39.760 that we'd love to have you contribute the other thing is we want to make an offer and that is send

01:30:45.680 your kids to our leadership program and right now it is only happening in the summer but uh we'd like

01:30:53.240 a very long waiting list um and so you just go to mercuryone.org i think it's under leadership

01:30:59.300 training and you can sign up uh we are hopefully going to be opening this up for more ages age groups

01:31:06.820 and families um in the future uh but right now we're taking anyone 18 to 25 um and sometimes a

01:31:15.940 little lower than that if you're going to college at 17 instead of 18 fine uh but we um we're designing

01:31:22.240 courses right now we've been working on the 18 to 25 year olds we'll be designing things for younger

01:31:29.320 and for older and for family and we would love for you to uh uh have your children sign up for for

01:31:39.500 this or if it happens to be you and you're 18 to 25 we'd love to see you you will get an experience for

01:31:45.260 two weeks uh that nobody gets nobody gets for instance you'll get to now this is a gentleman's

01:31:53.700 magazine that's when i was growing up a gentleman's magazine did not look like this and it had pictures

01:32:01.260 in it this doesn't no pictures no pictures and your gentleman's magazine didn't did not have poetry in

01:32:07.080 it yes this is may 1773 why is this important david because a little black girl named phyllis wheatley

01:32:17.460 has a poem in that and the story of phyllis is such a cool story how she got to america and

01:32:24.840 you know as a slave and and the wheatley family that bought her and raised her as a daughter and

01:32:29.360 and so she's the first black published poetess in america and there you go right there she our first

01:32:35.640 uh what do you call those poet laureate wasn't she no no she wasn't that wasn't going at the time

01:32:42.400 um but she became good friends with benjamin franklin she wrote a poem about benjamin franklin

01:32:48.740 she wrote a poem about george woodfield she she wrote a poem about the stamp act the repeal of the

01:32:53.840 stamp act she wrote points about washington washington actually had her come to cambridge

01:32:59.420 and read poetry to the troops kind of like a uso you know like bringing bob hope in and and so

01:33:05.200 i mean she's just a remarkable remarkable lady and uh uh she was someone that benjamin franklin who was

01:33:15.220 really a strong abolitionist i mean really paid for it uh dearly in the end uh brought her around 0.98

01:33:24.340 uh to to like stage shows if you will and uh had her read poetry just to convince those stupid people 0.99

01:33:33.640 yeah that no you know what blacks are just like you she's black and she's a lot smarter a lot 1.00

01:33:40.940 smarter than you that's right a lot smarter than you david thank you thanks bro all right 0.98

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The Glenn Beck Program - October 26, 2019

Ep 56 ｜ History in Clay Pots ｜ David Barton ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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