The Glenn Beck Program - December 07, 2019


Ep 62 ｜ UN Ambassador and Beyond： Always Taking Names ｜ Nikki Haley ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour

Words per Minute

165.60408

Word Count

10,061

Sentence Count

869

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

14


Summary

Nikki Haley is a former South Carolina governor, former U.S. ambassador to the United States, and perhaps someday, she will be known as the first female president. She s one of the only females in a male-dominated arena, and she s never quit fighting for her integrity, her principles, and for the American people.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Everybody is shaped by their upbringing, their family, their life experiences.
00:00:04.420 Some of us go through more hardships than others, but true leaders are the ones who can take that adversity in stride and use it as propellant, something that pushes them to a higher stratosphere.
00:00:19.600 And if they do it right, they do it with humility.
00:00:23.040 My next guest on our podcast is a master of grit and grace.
00:00:28.440 Growing up, she witnessed firsthand the racist attitudes of others directed toward her and her Indian immigrant parents.
00:00:36.120 In fact, she and her sister, they were once disqualified from a beauty pageant because they didn't fit in either category, because there were only two, black or white.
00:00:44.620 And they were like, you're not quite black, you're not quite white.
00:00:47.860 As an adult, she was faced with a near impossible challenge, leading the entire state through the worst kind of tragedy, through the slaughter on the streets.
00:00:57.600 And she got South Carolinians to actually take down the Confederate flag.
00:01:02.920 It was amazing and masterfully done.
00:01:05.420 She's one of the only females in a male-dominated arena.
00:01:08.520 She's never quit fighting for her integrity, her principles, and for the American people.
00:01:13.080 Today, I sit down with former South Carolina governor, former U.S. ambassador to the United States,
00:01:19.740 and perhaps someday she will be known as the first female president.
00:01:24.760 Today, Nikki Haley.
00:01:38.980 Nikki, how are you?
00:01:40.240 I'm great.
00:01:40.920 How are you?
00:01:41.620 I'm so happy to have you here.
00:01:43.680 I'm excited.
00:01:44.600 I have read your books and listened to your radio show over the years.
00:01:47.580 This is going to be a lot of fun.
00:01:49.120 I am a big fan, as you will find out as we go through.
00:01:55.360 First of all, I don't usually read political books because it's like, oh, there's no, there's a lot of stuff in there that we have to talk about that is really fascinating that you had the guts to say it.
00:02:11.940 But it doesn't feel gratuitous.
00:02:13.580 It doesn't feel like you were trying to make money.
00:02:16.540 You know what I mean?
00:02:17.700 I didn't want it to be a political book.
00:02:19.340 I really wanted it to be a personal book.
00:02:21.380 And I really wanted it to be lessons learned, stories as governor, ambassador, as a woman, you know, as a proud American.
00:02:29.000 I just really wanted to tell my story.
00:02:31.540 You know, you're a role model for so many girls and women.
00:02:36.120 I mean, my staff, it's amazing how many young women have been coming out to the book tour, getting the book.
00:02:45.120 I love that because when I was growing up, I looked for someone like that.
00:02:48.820 And so I hope that we continue to grow strong women.
00:02:52.660 I mean, it's important.
00:02:53.540 OK, let's just take because I want to kind of take the arc of your book a bit and you start in South Carolina and the the shooting of Walter Scott.
00:03:08.600 It was a police shooting and it was right on the heels, I believe, of Baltimore.
00:03:14.280 And those were bad, ugly times with the police and the police were wrong in this one.
00:03:19.320 He was unarmed and running away, right?
00:03:24.760 And then, of course, everybody was, I mean, well, South Carolina, you've got to be racist.
00:03:33.420 You got South Carolina.
00:03:36.660 No, I can't say this.
00:03:38.600 South Carolinians supported your idea or your movement to take the Confederate flag out of the flag.
00:03:48.160 Or off of the flagpoles and lower that and get it out.
00:03:53.680 How did you do that?
00:03:55.960 You know, I think whether it's the shooting with Walter Scott, you know, this was the police shot this guy in the back as he was running.
00:04:04.460 It was all over the televisions.
00:04:06.140 And you're right.
00:04:07.060 It was after Ferguson.
00:04:08.480 There was a lot of racial division throughout the country.
00:04:11.980 And the potential of it blowing up in South Carolina was very real.
00:04:15.700 And, you know, leadership can overcome those divisions if you show that you got it and that you're moving with it.
00:04:23.500 And so that was one where I actually saw two vulnerable constituencies there.
00:04:28.560 I saw, you know, the family of Walter Scott and not wanting this to happen to anyone else.
00:04:33.040 But I also saw it to law enforcement and to all the good law enforcement officers that deserve to be protected.
00:04:39.120 And so we were the first state in the country to pass body cameras for law enforcement because I wanted law enforcement to know we would make sure we had proof of the good guys and let the victims know we were going to make sure we had proof of the bad guys.
00:04:52.060 I think body cameras are a win all around.
00:04:55.140 And so we were able to do that without riots, without protests, anything.
00:04:59.940 And then you fast forward a month and there was Charleston and you had what was just horrible.
00:05:08.580 Twelve people who went and did what so many South Carolinians do every Wednesday night.
00:05:13.960 They went to Bible study.
00:05:15.180 But on this night, someone else showed up and he didn't look like them.
00:05:19.760 He didn't act like them.
00:05:21.080 He didn't sound like them.
00:05:22.900 And they didn't throw him out.
00:05:24.500 They didn't call the cops.
00:05:26.180 They pulled up a chair and they prayed with him for an hour.
00:05:31.220 And when they bowed their heads in that last prayer, he began to shoot.
00:05:37.700 You're talking about the Mother Emanuel church shooting.
00:05:39.860 I'm talking about it.
00:05:40.300 And, um, I went there right after the shooting and, um, I asked our audience to come and we did, uh, a March, uh, and it was funny.
00:05:55.560 I didn't know until I got home.
00:05:58.400 MSNBC reported on it.
00:06:00.380 They had no, we didn't announce it or anything else.
00:06:02.360 We're just going to support.
00:06:03.580 And, um, MSNBC, the anchor said, Oh my gosh, listen, where's it coming from?
00:06:10.900 Cause we were all singing.
00:06:12.480 And, um, and they said, look at this.
00:06:15.100 This is amazing.
00:06:16.080 This is wonderful.
00:06:17.100 Now they're not, they didn't know, but they certainly wouldn't have given any conservatives credit for being that way.
00:06:24.460 But when I was there, I really was overwhelmed with, that's who South Carolinians are.
00:06:31.200 It's not, it's not the stereotypic redneck kind of, it's not that.
00:06:38.140 I mean, South Carolina fell to her knees when this happened.
00:06:41.080 This is one of the oldest African American churches.
00:06:44.940 These 12 people were amazing people.
00:06:47.820 They love their church.
00:06:48.920 They love their family.
00:06:49.960 They love their community.
00:06:51.000 And here is this guy that comes out with his manifesto holding the Confederate flag and had just hijacked everything that people thought of.
00:07:03.580 And we don't have hateful people in South Carolina.
00:07:06.080 There's always the small minority that's always going to be there.
00:07:08.640 But, you know, people saw it as service and sacrifice and heritage.
00:07:13.700 And, but once he did that, there was no way to overcome it.
00:07:19.020 And the national media came in, in droves.
00:07:22.080 They wanted to define what happened.
00:07:23.820 They wanted to make this about racism.
00:07:25.480 They wanted to make it about gun control.
00:07:26.920 They wanted to make it about death penalty.
00:07:29.560 And I really pushed off the national media and said, there will be a time and place where we talk about this, but it is not now.
00:07:36.020 We're going to get through the funerals.
00:07:37.640 We're going to respect them.
00:07:39.560 And then we will have that conversation.
00:07:42.120 And we had a really tough few weeks of debate, but we didn't have riots.
00:07:47.200 We had vigils.
00:07:48.300 We didn't have protests.
00:07:49.460 We had hugs.
00:07:50.220 And the people of South Carolina stepped up and showed the world what it looks like to, to show grace and strength in the eyes of tragedy.
00:08:01.320 You had Jesse Jackson come into town, which is probably most governor's worst nightmare after a shooting.
00:08:08.800 And you're like, oh, good.
00:08:10.980 And when does Reverend Al show up?
00:08:12.800 But you write about how you listen to each other.
00:08:17.560 And is it your Indian background?
00:08:21.760 Yeah.
00:08:22.160 So we, I mean, look, I grew up, we were the only Indian family in a small, rural Southern town.
00:08:29.180 We weren't white enough to be white.
00:08:30.840 We weren't black enough to be black.
00:08:32.380 My father wore a turban.
00:08:34.740 He still does to this day.
00:08:36.120 My mother wore a sari.
00:08:37.760 They didn't know who we were, what we were, or why we were there.
00:08:41.140 And I remember my mom would tell me when I would come back from the playground after being bullied, she would say, your job is not to show them how you're different.
00:08:49.780 Your job is to show them how you're similar.
00:08:52.000 And it's amazing how that lesson on the playground has played out, whether I was in the corporate world or legislator or governor or ambassador.
00:09:00.420 Because when you talk about what you have in common first, everybody lets their guard down.
00:09:07.140 And then you can take on the challenges of the day and get to the solutions.
00:09:10.500 And Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton both showed up.
00:09:12.900 And my, I so desperately wanted to protect the state.
00:09:17.180 And that meant keeping Jesse Jackson in the loop, having breakfast with him every other day to say, this is what we're doing.
00:09:24.440 This is how we're doing it.
00:09:25.900 Al Sharpton, I talk about it in the book.
00:09:27.720 I mean, I just yelled at him and said, you're not going to come into my state and do this.
00:09:33.000 And he left.
00:09:34.840 And so it was, but it's making sure you're listening to everyone, but making sure you're leading so that everyone feels like you're doing something.
00:09:45.140 And I mean, it was, it was a tough time.
00:09:48.460 It really was.
00:09:49.040 You, the Connecticut governor called you and said, you're headed for real trouble.
00:09:55.520 He had just gone through this and he said, don't take it internally.
00:10:03.100 Watch, watch yourself.
00:10:04.840 And you soon found yourself the press calling saying, are you sick?
00:10:10.960 Are you on some new weight loss?
00:10:12.840 You had lost 20 pounds.
00:10:14.400 You were, you had PTSD.
00:10:16.380 Yeah.
00:10:16.620 I, it, you know, it's, I'm very grateful for the governor, um, calling, but he called literally the second day after the murders.
00:10:24.700 And he said, I just want you to know that you're getting ready to go through something really tragic and hard and take care of yourself.
00:10:33.700 And I didn't know what he meant at the time.
00:10:36.400 I mean, now, obviously I know, but I knew too much about what happened in that room where the murders happened.
00:10:44.140 I went to every single funeral.
00:10:46.600 They were all open caskets.
00:10:48.200 I watched family members falling over those bodies in despair.
00:10:52.160 Um, and I, I just internalized it.
00:10:55.300 And it got to the point where I would do a press conference.
00:10:58.640 I'd come back into the office and I would cry.
00:11:00.760 I'd go home.
00:11:01.520 I'd get in the bed and I would cry.
00:11:02.780 And I just couldn't figure out what was happening.
00:11:06.820 And I did.
00:11:07.500 I lost 20 pounds.
00:11:08.580 I was, we had my chief of staff and her husband, who was my doctor, came over one night.
00:11:13.400 And I just broke down and he said, you have all the signs of PTSD.
00:11:17.620 And that made me feel even worse because I wasn't one of the people in that room.
00:11:22.760 I wasn't, I had no right to feel that way.
00:11:27.480 And, but that's when I learned that PTSD isn't always direct trauma.
00:11:32.840 It can be from the experiences of everything else.
00:11:35.440 And so, um, I got treatment and therapy, but it was a really tough time and a tough experience.
00:11:43.400 And I mean, really the only thing left was for me to hold onto my faith because that's
00:11:49.560 what got me through it.
00:11:50.760 All right.
00:11:51.040 Back with more of Nikki Haley in just a second.
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00:13:31.220 You are such a different, I don't know if you know this, but you are, you know, Jean Kirkpatrick is.
00:13:53.200 Yes, I do.
00:13:54.440 I love her.
00:13:55.120 She's the only UN ambassador we've ever had, except you now that I've went, Oh, where's Jean?
00:14:03.800 She was so great.
00:14:04.660 Um, you have, you're not this pantsuit politician.
00:14:11.640 You're not a, um, you're not an angry woman.
00:14:16.080 You're, you're ambitious.
00:14:18.200 And yet it doesn't seem like it.
00:14:21.000 I don't, I'm sure you get all of those, you know, name calling.
00:14:24.660 And I think it's because, and this may have been the PTSD, the cause of this, you seem to be very empathetic.
00:14:36.000 You seem to be able to feel people.
00:14:40.460 You know, I was like that growing up and I think it's because, you know, there were some painful times growing up being discriminated against or watching my dad go through tough times, things like that.
00:14:54.640 You, one, have no patience for bullies because you remember when they did it to you to, you have sympathy for those that are made to feel different because I myself knew what that felt like.
00:15:07.840 And so I've always been very in tune with people's pain and very in tune with how to lift them up so that they can be stronger and not be victims of that pain.
00:15:20.920 That's, that's really rare.
00:15:22.200 And Paul, I mean, I think most politicians are just sociopaths.
00:15:26.020 I mean, they just, it's a tough club to be a part of, I won't tell you.
00:15:30.600 It is, but, but they are, you know, they're ambitious.
00:15:34.720 I'm not saying this in a, I know sociopath sounds bad, but, um, it's hard to do what they do.
00:15:43.980 And be able to steam through it and push through it and just, I mean, you, you are, you know, a witness or a testimony of that.
00:15:58.000 Look at what happened to you.
00:16:00.120 You know, you internalize stuff and man, if you're Steven in the public eye, don't do that because you'll just end up a ball of jello.
00:16:10.460 Well, you know, I think I never wanted to be a politician.
00:16:13.460 I was an accountant and, you know, grew up in my family's business and stumbled into politics simply by the fact that I was doing the business for my mom's company and was complaining about how hard it was to make a dollar and how easy it was for government to take it.
00:16:30.440 And my mom said, don't complain about it, do something about it.
00:16:34.020 And so I ran because I thought there were too many lawyers at the state house and they needed one really good accountant.
00:16:39.740 And I think that I've never wanted to be a politician to be a politician.
00:16:46.100 I've wanted to move the ball.
00:16:48.960 I've wanted to make people better.
00:16:51.160 And every time I do something like that, it humbles me more.
00:16:55.920 But I'll bet you 70% of those who are politicians actually felt the same way.
00:17:04.120 But then they get in it and they get power and everything else and they turn into, I don't know, crazy people.
00:17:12.820 I've got to tell you this story because when I, I won the state house in 2004 and I defeated the longest serving legislator in South Carolina in a primary.
00:17:25.620 And so I had come in somewhat as people saw me as a rebel or an outsider.
00:17:31.320 And I came in with a class that had done a lot of the same things.
00:17:35.340 And over a couple of years, I watched my class members who had defeated establishment Republicans.
00:17:41.480 I saw them start to change.
00:17:43.840 And I remember, and it was the power and it was the money and it was the prestige of it all.
00:17:50.140 And, you know, everybody calling you the honorable this and the, and it was just, you could see it.
00:17:55.860 And I remember telling my husband, if you ever see that happen to me, tell me because I'm scared I won't see it.
00:18:01.360 Right.
00:18:01.480 And that truly does happen.
00:18:04.520 And I've watched it happen to my friends.
00:18:06.900 Thomas Massey tells me, you know, he was, we were going to see the state of the union and he said, hang on, I got to put the, I have to put my golem on.
00:18:15.800 And I said, what?
00:18:17.020 And it was his pen.
00:18:19.680 And he said, I didn't even notice that, you know, people were kind of clearing the way for me.
00:18:26.380 And he said, one day I didn't, wasn't wearing my pen.
00:18:28.980 And he was like, why is it such a hassle?
00:18:31.420 And he realized, oh my gosh, it's the pen.
00:18:34.520 And it, and it was the draw.
00:18:36.100 He calls it Gollum because he's like my precious, he calls it my precious because of the Lord of the Rings.
00:18:42.000 He said, it has that kind of power.
00:18:44.560 And he said, I only when I go through and I have to wear it for security.
00:18:48.940 Otherwise, I take that thing off as soon as I can.
00:18:51.900 And those things are dangerous because what happens is those that are in elected office forget that they're serving the people, not the other way around.
00:19:00.800 Well, I want to get to this later.
00:19:01.820 What's worse are those people who are not elected to office who have power in Washington.
00:19:07.220 Very true.
00:19:08.920 You were not for Trump in the beginning.
00:19:11.700 In the beginning, I was.
00:19:12.520 Yeah, you were Marco Rubio and then you went to Ted Cruz.
00:19:17.000 Your mom was.
00:19:19.400 She was for the, she was for President Trump the whole time from the very first day.
00:19:24.780 And, and she's an immigrant.
00:19:26.960 Oh, and she loved how straightforward he was.
00:19:31.380 She loved the fact that he wasn't going to let the United States get taken for granted.
00:19:34.600 But more than that, she loved what he was going to do on illegal immigration because my parents came to this country because they wanted a better life for their kids.
00:19:43.640 And they put in the time, put in the price and came here legally.
00:19:48.220 They are offended by those who come here illegally.
00:19:51.260 So she very much wanted to do that.
00:19:53.500 And it's funny because we had a lot of talent on that stage.
00:19:56.040 16 people, I was so giddy about that slate.
00:19:59.380 And I put my, my backing on Marco Rubio.
00:20:04.060 And I remember the president tweeted, Nikki Haley is an embarrassment to South Carolina, in which I responded and tweeted, bless your heart.
00:20:14.340 Anybody who knows anything about the Carolinas, that's just, that's just a polite way to say F you.
00:20:22.920 I love that.
00:20:24.060 But, you know, once he won the primary, I supported him in the general and we were friends before.
00:20:30.340 We actually knew each other.
00:20:31.920 He supported me when I ran for governor the first time.
00:20:34.740 And I got this white envelope with this great gold trim.
00:20:38.680 And there was a support check in it.
00:20:40.360 And there was a note that said, you're a winner.
00:20:41.780 And we were in touch the entire time.
00:20:44.560 But I, he would fax you stories about you.
00:20:47.340 Oh, yes.
00:20:48.080 Yeah.
00:20:48.320 He would.
00:20:48.800 And he'd say, keep up the great work.
00:20:50.340 So we were, we were acquaintances.
00:20:52.200 But, you know, I mean, all of us had to choose a horse in 16.
00:20:55.800 And so, so, so you weren't really where I was because I was against him because I always like, I lived in New York when they were futzing around with the World Trade Center.
00:21:08.980 I'm like, let Donald Trump build it.
00:21:12.400 I mean, we're going to have to give him the top 10 floors so it says Trump on top of it.
00:21:17.280 But I'm okay with that.
00:21:18.480 It'll be bigger, taller, and probably all gold.
00:21:21.620 And I don't know how he's going to get it done because I've seen him all of a sudden, like 10 blocks are completely changed overnight with his name on it.
00:21:33.680 He knows how to get things done.
00:21:35.440 But because he's a New Yorker and a diehard and has had many things that I disagree with, you know, on his agenda for a very long time, and he's so incredibly offensive, I just couldn't see it.
00:21:58.540 I just didn't think he would do it.
00:22:00.720 Audience was very upset with me.
00:22:02.360 And I said, look, I want to be wrong.
00:22:04.480 And if I'm wrong, I'll be the first to admit it.
00:22:07.480 And then I started seeing him do things.
00:22:10.120 And he's done some things like trade and everything I don't agree with.
00:22:13.960 But, okay, look what he's done.
00:22:18.880 It's just, we just need to take the Twitter away from him.
00:22:22.240 Just take the Twitter machine from him.
00:22:23.480 And you never will.
00:22:24.540 You never will.
00:22:25.200 This is just who he is.
00:22:26.540 And honestly, he has had to do it because the media wouldn't cover certain things.
00:22:32.160 And so the media actually created.
00:22:34.980 Right.
00:22:35.420 They did.
00:22:36.080 They did.
00:22:36.640 His tweet style.
00:22:37.400 So he is.
00:22:38.940 I was always disturbed by the people who would say to me, we just need somebody to burn it down.
00:22:45.340 And your Tea Party, I was Tea Party.
00:22:48.200 And I couldn't understand that.
00:22:51.200 I was like, no, no, no, don't burn it down.
00:22:53.840 The Constitution, don't burn all those things down.
00:22:57.340 He was a disruptor.
00:22:58.760 Right.
00:22:59.300 He was a disruptor at a time when we needed a disruptor.
00:23:02.660 In this impeachment, I think for, and I've seen it now because I didn't, I was so arrogant.
00:23:10.460 I didn't, I didn't, I wasn't an empath.
00:23:15.280 I didn't hear, I was just so confused by the people who had listened to me for so long.
00:23:23.640 And I thought they were, you know, constitutional and all this stuff.
00:23:27.580 I didn't see the pain that they were in.
00:23:32.280 They had given up.
00:23:34.020 They're like, Glenn, GOP is not going to do anything.
00:23:37.220 It's not going to happen.
00:23:38.260 And I see Donald Trump, what he's done on many things, Israel, one of them, Ted Cruz probably
00:23:46.080 wouldn't have done that.
00:23:47.100 I mean, he would want to, but he probably wouldn't have done that.
00:23:49.480 I mean, the courage that the president showed.
00:23:52.800 And Glenn, I was there here in his entire national security team.
00:23:57.800 I, I think presidents before him campaigned on it.
00:24:03.040 I think they all genuinely wanted to make the change.
00:24:05.780 And I think what happened was exactly what happened to the president.
00:24:08.880 They'd get into the national security meeting and everybody would say, you can't do it.
00:24:13.880 You can't do it.
00:24:14.840 The sky is going to fall.
00:24:15.900 People are going to die.
00:24:16.980 And I watched that happen.
00:24:19.200 And he only had three of us on his side.
00:24:25.500 Everybody else was not, they just were scared.
00:24:28.740 They just didn't want anything bad to happen.
00:24:31.040 And he had the courage to say, if not me, then who?
00:24:35.240 And he went through and you know what?
00:24:37.380 The sky is still up there.
00:24:38.600 So it acknowledged the truth that needed to be acknowledged.
00:24:41.220 In 2007, I was sitting with George Bush in the Oval Office and, um, and it was when Barack
00:24:49.680 Obama said, well, I don't care.
00:24:51.440 We'll just fly over Afghanistan.
00:24:53.860 We'll bomb my Afghanistan.
00:24:55.080 I'm like, oh dear God, you can't, this is an ally.
00:24:58.820 And I said to George Bush, well, help.
00:25:03.240 And he said, and he tried to, this, he thought this would make me feel better, but it scared
00:25:08.060 the hell out of me.
00:25:08.780 And it wasn't until this last year that I get it.
00:25:12.860 He said, Glenn, don't worry.
00:25:16.900 No matter who sits behind that desk in that chair, they're going to get the same advice
00:25:22.180 and they're going to realize the president's hands are tied and they'll do exactly the
00:25:27.800 same, which Barack Obama pretty much did.
00:25:31.540 This guy comes in and they just think they know more than the president and they don't
00:25:41.400 believe that they're working for the president, the elected, they're institutionalized.
00:25:47.180 I'll see you come and go.
00:25:48.600 He refuses to play ball with them.
00:25:55.140 And I think partly because they all attacked him from the beginning.
00:25:59.780 And so he had his backup and I'm not listening to you.
00:26:03.880 And he has certain views of things and he just does it.
00:26:08.380 And I think that's what this impeachment, he's a hand grenade.
00:26:11.640 And he rolled into Ukraine with all the State Department and intelligence and everything
00:26:17.880 else.
00:26:18.520 And he blew up.
00:26:21.160 And it's like a wall came down that he didn't mean to maybe take down.
00:26:26.000 He took this wall down.
00:26:26.900 You're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:26:28.480 He was a hand grenade.
00:26:29.260 But he was behind that wall.
00:26:32.580 Does that make sense?
00:26:33.600 No, it totally doesn't.
00:26:35.080 And look, I think that he came in and he, you know, everybody asked how I got out of
00:26:40.560 the administration without a tweet.
00:26:43.100 And basically it was I would tell him the truth.
00:26:47.240 If he was doing something right, I would praise him.
00:26:49.340 I would support.
00:26:49.980 I would rally.
00:26:50.620 I would do whatever was needed.
00:26:51.900 I thought he was making a mistake.
00:26:54.060 I would say I would call him or meet with him and say, I think you're making a mistake
00:26:57.960 instead.
00:26:58.500 I think you should do X.
00:27:00.340 And he would say, OK, how do you see that playing out?
00:27:03.020 He would always listen, not just to me, to everybody.
00:27:06.700 So he was one that was willing to be swayed.
00:27:10.080 But when he made his mind up, it was done.
00:27:13.400 It was our responsibility to support and rally for him to get that.
00:27:17.220 That's the way every business, every household, everything works.
00:27:21.560 It's the way the American public expects it to work.
00:27:24.900 As Obama used to say all the time, elections have consequences.
00:27:28.400 Yes.
00:27:29.020 All right.
00:27:29.740 Back with more Nikki Haley in a second.
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00:29:23.320 You were asked to be secretary of state.
00:29:43.000 I was asked to be in the running for secretary of state.
00:29:47.540 I wasn't like formally offered the position.
00:29:49.860 I was asked to come to New York and talk about it.
00:29:51.920 And you went and you said, not me.
00:29:54.520 I'm not your person.
00:29:55.600 Yeah.
00:29:55.740 Because I think that you have to know when and how to be successful.
00:30:04.660 And we had too much going on in the world.
00:30:07.400 And it would have been.
00:30:08.700 United Nations is just the same, except it's the.
00:30:11.360 I guess it's the big it's the big people's table, but they don't do it.
00:30:17.040 I just didn't think he needed someone with that much of a learning curve going in, being secretary of state.
00:30:21.920 And I, I think it's important for people to know their boundaries.
00:30:26.500 I'm not afraid to push through the fear and do things that are new and and try something new.
00:30:32.200 That was too big of a step.
00:30:34.060 And he deserved better.
00:30:35.740 And I think that the I thought that the American people deserve better.
00:30:39.580 So when he first picked Rex Tillerson, everybody, of course, was like, it's because I built big oil and shut up.
00:30:46.880 Who else has the experience of running a company the size of Exxon?
00:30:52.840 And he's already negotiated massive deals.
00:30:56.300 We were very excited.
00:30:57.320 I mean, I thought, especially because he had dealt with leaders of other countries.
00:31:02.420 He, you know, the business side, I love to see business people go into government.
00:31:06.840 I always think that's the way to go because they they get rid of the red tape.
00:31:11.400 They understand that it's all about getting things done.
00:31:13.920 And so we were all very excited about.
00:31:15.820 I thought that was a brilliant pick.
00:31:18.220 Turns out not so much.
00:31:19.920 They just disagreed on everything, literally on everything.
00:31:23.960 And so it would put me in the middle of that situation.
00:31:27.460 And I agreed with the president on almost everything.
00:31:30.160 So, you know, when you when you look at and I think the president was frustrated because so much of what he was trying to do.
00:31:37.720 Rex would slow walk, stall or just not do it.
00:31:40.960 It's the reason why he asked me to go to Vienna to see the IAEA that was looking over the nuclear production of Iran and doing all of the inspections was because he said Rex wasn't doing anything.
00:31:53.140 And so it was constantly issue after issue where that actually came to you and.
00:31:59.520 And you two talked and Rex was, you know, we're protecting people and we don't stand in the way.
00:32:12.260 And and in some ways.
00:32:16.080 Look, if you really think I don't believe we just take orders from the president, if you really believe somebody is going to be dangerous, you then have to make the choice.
00:32:27.220 Do I stay in to advise knowing that I might always not get my way, but I advise or is it so dangerous that I need to leave and tell the people why I left and let the chips fall where they may?
00:32:42.340 I mean, this was this was a real concern for me because I saw that he was slow walking things or I saw that they just weren't doing what the president was asking in the National Security Council meetings.
00:32:54.400 But on this day, we had had a meeting in the Oval Office and it was about giving Palestinian aid.
00:33:00.120 And I wanted to pull the aid because they were anti-American.
00:33:04.520 This agency wasn't willing to reform.
00:33:06.700 It was a waste of taxpayer dollars.
00:33:09.040 The president agreed with me.
00:33:10.680 Kelly brought in Rex.
00:33:13.000 Rex countered it.
00:33:14.620 And so he said, y'all go out and figure this out.
00:33:18.020 So me and Rex and Kelly were sitting there and we were talking for about an hour.
00:33:22.600 And I basically was saying, this is what the president wants.
00:33:26.760 And that's when they came in and they said, look, we're not undermining the president.
00:33:33.360 We're trying to save the country.
00:33:35.020 And if we don't do what we're doing by stalling or changing what he wants, people will die.
00:33:43.440 Now, this would be different if they thought he was unfit.
00:33:46.580 This would be different if they thought that he wasn't stable.
00:33:49.480 That's not what their issues were.
00:33:52.160 This is the fact that they didn't agree with getting out of the Iran deal.
00:33:55.120 They didn't agree of getting out of the Paris Climate Agreement.
00:33:57.520 They didn't agree with moving the embassy from it's not theirs to agree with.
00:34:00.840 These were policy issues.
00:34:02.200 So if you don't agree on policy, do what I did and go tell the president.
00:34:06.640 But they had every opportunity in National Security Council meetings or quit.
00:34:12.780 And so that was the bottom line was they just thought they knew better than the president.
00:34:18.940 And the reason this touched a nerve with me is I ran for governor.
00:34:22.700 I know how hard it is to get elected.
00:34:24.980 I know when you make promises to the people that elected you, you want to carry it out.
00:34:29.760 I was offended that they were looking in the mirror every day thinking that they could be president.
00:34:35.100 I think both of those guys are patriots.
00:34:38.080 I will first say I think they went in.
00:34:40.200 They love their country.
00:34:41.120 They wanted to serve their country.
00:34:42.380 But they were just wrong.
00:34:43.840 They were just wrong to go against the president.
00:34:46.080 It is.
00:34:47.360 It's fine to believe that.
00:34:49.400 It's fine to disagree.
00:34:51.200 It's totally American to disagree.
00:34:54.000 But once the president has made the decision, your job is to execute what the president.
00:35:02.760 I mean, it's the president is the commander in chief and you can't run any.
00:35:09.480 Rex Tillerson should know that you can't run Exxon if all of the executives around you are trying to save Exxon or go a different direction.
00:35:18.160 You just can't do it.
00:35:20.400 It won't work.
00:35:22.080 So.
00:35:23.740 How alone is he?
00:35:26.600 I mean, I think he's got good people around him.
00:35:29.420 I think that he just needs to be told the truth.
00:35:32.040 And I in the book, I talk about my relationship with him and how he was just so willing to listen.
00:35:39.280 And he needs people to do for him.
00:35:43.900 What I did, but also what I expected my cabinet to do for me when I was governor, which was be creative, serve the people.
00:35:50.500 And if you see me taking a wrong path, say something and, you know, the president's not rigid.
00:35:56.800 He's not closed minded.
00:35:58.220 He will listen to anyone that has any issues.
00:36:01.080 I don't know the scenario now that I am gone.
00:36:05.460 And certainly there have been a couple of other changes.
00:36:08.060 But, you know, I just I encourage all those people in his circle to just keep protecting him and moving forward on his policy issues and keep speaking up on what they see.
00:36:20.280 I will tell you, I've never I've never said this before.
00:36:28.640 I've never I've never told this story, but about eight months ago, the president called me and I was getting ready to do a TV show.
00:36:38.920 And my assistant came in and said, Glenn, the president is on the phone for you.
00:36:42.820 And I said, the president of what?
00:36:44.480 And they said, the United States.
00:36:49.140 And I said, what?
00:36:53.120 I didn't know what to do.
00:36:54.240 And I was like, tell him I'm doing a show.
00:36:57.280 I got to be live here in a second.
00:36:59.080 I'll call him back.
00:37:01.380 I call him back and he says, hey, I just want to thank you for pointing out, you know, this and this.
00:37:07.080 And I started to say, you know, I don't know if you know this, but before you were elected and he went, oh, I'm very well aware.
00:37:19.220 And I said, no, no, no, not that part.
00:37:20.560 I know you're aware of that.
00:37:21.800 But what I said was.
00:37:24.040 I will support your policies if I think they're right, and I will point out policies if I think they're wrong.
00:37:32.640 And he said, I think that's great.
00:37:34.480 And I said, I said, and I have to tell you, I think you're great on this and this and this.
00:37:40.600 And he said, what is it you disagree with?
00:37:44.680 He spent 25 minutes.
00:37:46.520 We still didn't agree at the end, but he spent 25 minutes on the phone with me, all of it in disagreement.
00:37:53.360 And he listened.
00:37:55.040 He listened.
00:37:55.940 Didn't mean he changed anything.
00:37:57.540 But the man is not who people think that he is.
00:38:01.500 He's not.
00:38:02.140 I had a great working professional relationship with him, and I think that anybody that works for him can't say that he wasn't listening and he wasn't, you know, that there wasn't an ability to change his mind on things.
00:38:15.540 When you first dealt with the resolution against Israel at the UN, you were pretty clear, and it started this roll down the hill.
00:38:29.740 And you write in the book that you reached out to Sam Power, Samantha Power.
00:38:33.460 I don't know how much you know about Samantha Power, but she was discovered by Soros, and she's got a very anti-Israel kind of stance.
00:38:46.220 What were you looking for from her?
00:38:50.760 What was happening?
00:38:51.820 She actually was very good to me when I was appointed.
00:38:57.080 I mean, she immediately reached out, said, let me help you.
00:39:00.520 She helped whether it was, you know, talking to me about the staff I was going to need.
00:39:04.820 She left me a book about which ambassadors were there, the countries, how they handled things.
00:39:09.740 I mean, she really was very gracious, but when resolution, it was 2334, it was basically an anti-Israeli resolution was happening.
00:39:18.300 It was happening in December before President Obama left.
00:39:23.160 And I tried to call her because I didn't understand why they would do this.
00:39:27.160 I mean, Israel is a bright spot in a really tough neighborhood.
00:39:31.220 I know.
00:39:32.300 And the U.S. has always protected them from resolutions at the UN by using our veto.
00:39:38.840 And I ended up talking to the Israeli ambassador once I got to the UN.
00:39:43.100 He said he tried to call her multiple times and she wouldn't call him back.
00:39:46.780 And he found out from other countries that this resolution was coming down and that the U.S. led it.
00:39:53.620 That's what's so bad is the United States led an anti-Israel resolution at the United Nations in a time where we should have had their back.
00:40:02.120 And so it was the that last administration was the most anti-Israel I think we've had.
00:40:08.580 And I don't know how long.
00:40:10.340 And I think we followed it.
00:40:12.680 With Truman.
00:40:13.800 But to to let it happen at the last hour.
00:40:17.160 Yeah, that was what was so bad.
00:40:18.760 You know, the president had been elected at this point.
00:40:21.580 This was in the last month and let that happen.
00:40:23.660 And so I was offended.
00:40:25.700 And I think it's really important.
00:40:27.300 United States should always have the backs of our friends.
00:40:30.100 Always.
00:40:30.760 When you came in, you said.
00:40:33.500 You know, you're for us or against it, whatever.
00:40:36.960 But we're taking names.
00:40:38.420 Yes.
00:40:40.680 Thank you.
00:40:42.340 Everybody said that was a bully move, et cetera, et cetera.
00:40:45.360 What what is it about our side that even our side with Ukraine?
00:40:56.620 Oh, don't worry about that money that we lost.
00:40:58.720 I'm sure it's fine.
00:41:00.100 And what is wrong with us?
00:41:02.860 Look, I mean, I think this is it for me.
00:41:05.720 It was important that when I went in, I didn't care if countries like this or not.
00:41:10.740 What I wanted was to make sure they knew what the United States was for and what the United States was against.
00:41:15.100 And I didn't want any gray areas.
00:41:17.000 And at the same time, I let them know we were going to be taking names, taking names of those that were with us and taking names of those that were against us.
00:41:25.920 And I thought they needed to know that we were going to have a strong voice in America again.
00:41:30.760 And that we were going to make sure that they knew we were in the room.
00:41:35.080 True.
00:41:35.660 The Security Council, some members came to and said, it's good to have America back.
00:41:40.300 After the president struck, did the strikes in Syria after the chemical weapons attack, when that red line was drawn and he followed through with it, the number of ambassadors that came to me and said, it's so good to see the United States lead again.
00:41:55.020 Because while they resent us, while they bash us, they all still want to be us and they want our moral clarity to lead.
00:42:04.800 They don't want to follow China.
00:42:06.120 They don't want to follow Russia.
00:42:07.360 They still want to follow the United States' lead.
00:42:09.880 The world is becoming a very scary place.
00:42:13.120 China is a frightening enemy.
00:42:15.020 Number one threat we have is China.
00:42:17.400 Oh, not number one threat just to America, but to all human beings.
00:42:21.740 It is a very scary with their surveillance, with their camps that are coming and their buildings.
00:42:29.620 I mean, if you just look at the map of all the places that they have invested.
00:42:34.180 Right.
00:42:34.940 And we saw at the UN where they would go and bully those countries and say, you better vote with us.
00:42:40.260 But look at the map at all the places they've invested.
00:42:42.920 Look at how they're running up the debt.
00:42:45.320 Now look at the map and imagine China saying, I want your port.
00:42:49.440 I want to put a military installation.
00:42:51.580 Then you looking at that map, it will send a chill up your spine.
00:42:55.160 Look at the map of the United States and see what they've done.
00:42:59.220 But recently, what's really important, President Xi started a committee.
00:43:03.660 And this committee, he chairs it.
00:43:05.680 And it says any business that any company that does business in China now has to cooperate with the Chinese military.
00:43:13.860 So think about our tech companies.
00:43:16.720 Think about the data they have on all of us and how the Chinese military now have access to it.
00:43:22.700 That matters.
00:43:24.120 That matters.
00:43:25.280 Big time.
00:43:26.160 Big time.
00:43:26.660 Let me switch to Russia for a second.
00:43:30.580 They will never be our friend.
00:43:32.200 They will never be our friend.
00:43:33.640 And they can never be trusted.
00:43:34.940 What do you mean?
00:43:37.640 The people who throw journalists out windows?
00:43:39.640 They're not trustworthy.
00:43:42.020 Donald Trump is being made to look like a Russian asset.
00:43:46.160 They call him that, except the last administration had a reset button.
00:43:55.220 And even George Bush said, I looked into Pootie Pootie's ass and he was great.
00:43:59.140 I mean, this guy, he might say nice things.
00:44:04.800 And I think it's because they say nice things about him.
00:44:08.180 So he'll say nice things about them.
00:44:09.820 But if you look at his policies, I think he's the most devastating on Russia since Reagan.
00:44:19.140 If you look, he is.
00:44:21.780 And I talk about this in the book.
00:44:22.960 He's soft on his words.
00:44:24.780 He's strong on his actions.
00:44:26.260 And he's the reason that he is like that.
00:44:28.760 And the reason it's controversial that he does that with Putin or with Kim or with Xi is because he has a way of disarming them.
00:44:37.140 And I've watched it work.
00:44:38.780 So what he does is many times he's talking to them in the camera, knowing they're watching and listening in in hopes of getting something done with Russia.
00:44:49.880 Look, I saw and I talk about in the book where I had a conversation with him where I thought he was soft on Russia in his words, but in his actions, put more sanctions for their occupation in Crimea, gave anti-tank missiles to Ukraine, helped with military training, you know, increasing our energy sector and our military, which Russia can't stand, expelled multiple diplomats.
00:45:14.440 I mean, he has hit Russia over the head so many times.
00:45:18.680 OK, more with Nikki Haley in just a second.
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00:46:54.360 I think he also sees these dictators because he's a very black and white person.
00:47:00.460 You know, he is a crime guy.
00:47:03.780 He is a harsh punishment crime guy.
00:47:06.520 And, you know, I know that he spoke to President Xi and Duarte and part of him is like, they don't have a drug problem there.
00:47:16.020 Yeah, because they shoot them in the head without a trial.
00:47:19.960 I'm not suggesting he wants to do that.
00:47:22.500 But he does admire people who just get it done.
00:47:26.420 And he can speak their language in a way.
00:47:34.300 He can, you know, you're going to see with the trade deal with China, you're going to see that he's going to get the trade deal done.
00:47:44.480 And the reason he's going to get it done is because President Xi has to do this for his constituency.
00:47:50.480 President Trump has to do it for his constituency.
00:47:52.980 But more than that, they both like each other.
00:47:56.240 And because they both like each other, there is a political will to get it done.
00:47:59.840 So he does this game, but it's all in the name of getting things done.
00:48:07.100 I've watched it happen multiple times.
00:48:09.100 When you look at China, I can't figure out how, I mean, tell me, tell me how Hong Kong plays into this.
00:48:28.140 I know we have this new Senate resolution that he was supposed to sign or maybe did sign.
00:48:32.880 The House passed it and the Senate passed it, hugely important to having the backs of the people of Hong Kong.
00:48:39.240 Right. I mean, we have to be on their side.
00:48:42.060 We have to be on their side because if Hong Kong falls, Taiwan is next.
00:48:46.460 And this is all part of China's grand plan.
00:48:49.460 So the one thing they hate more than anything else is being called out.
00:48:53.160 And this calls them out and says that we will monitor the actions China has with Hong Kong.
00:48:59.120 So how do we do that and do a deal with China?
00:49:03.820 Well, I mean, this is obviously sticky.
00:49:05.680 I think that, look, I would love to see.
00:49:09.120 And I do think the president should sign it.
00:49:11.200 And I think he should say, look, we're going to do this.
00:49:13.480 But if China, which I know is saying, if you sign that, we're going to pull back.
00:49:19.920 I know they're doing that because I saw them doing serious consequences.
00:49:24.200 They did it at the U.N. all the time.
00:49:26.020 They wouldn't even allow Taiwanese people to come into the U.N.
00:49:29.560 They banned all of them.
00:49:31.040 And the U.N. listened because they bullied them so much.
00:49:33.460 So I know he's doing that.
00:49:35.400 I think that the president can either go one of two ways.
00:49:39.220 He can sign it and say, we're doing this anyway.
00:49:41.780 He can veto it.
00:49:42.820 And the House and Senate are going to override it anyway.
00:49:45.260 And then he can say, well, I didn't do it.
00:49:47.200 But Congress did either way.
00:49:49.860 I would like to see him sign it.
00:49:51.520 I'd like to see him stand with the people of Hong Kong.
00:49:53.600 I think when it comes to our values and when it comes to what we believe in, we shouldn't compromise on that.
00:49:59.940 China needs us anyway, whether we sign the Hong Kong bill or not.
00:50:03.880 They need us anyway.
00:50:05.840 And I think the world needs someone to stand against oppression.
00:50:12.440 We need and we when we lead, others follow.
00:50:16.640 When we led on Guaido and Venezuela, you know, 50 plus other countries followed.
00:50:22.220 When we lead on the people on defending the people of Hong Kong and having their backs and using the power of their voice, others will listen.
00:50:30.780 I mean, think about what's happening.
00:50:32.340 You've got over a million Uyghurs or Muslims in reeducation camps in China, making them change their name, change their religion, change their way of thinking.
00:50:41.340 If any other country in the world were doing this, everybody would be up in arms.
00:50:46.500 But because it's China, no one's talking about it.
00:50:49.940 That's what China has been doing around the world is they bully everybody into not calling them out.
00:50:56.000 But if we continue to fall in line with that, then they will continue to oppress people around the world.
00:51:01.020 So did the president, did the president do the occupied territories thing, which I totally agree with?
00:51:10.120 Did he kind of do that partly because State Department?
00:51:16.520 Are you talking about for Israel?
00:51:18.120 Yeah.
00:51:18.560 Guess what?
00:51:20.240 I'm doing it.
00:51:21.700 I think you have to look at the history of it, which I haven't had this conversation with him.
00:51:26.960 I think it was the right thing.
00:51:28.160 Basically, he went back.
00:51:29.200 He basically said that settlements were not illegal in the eyes of the United States.
00:51:34.700 Historically, if you go back.
00:51:37.180 After the 1967 war, we know where the lines were.
00:51:41.180 It was President Carter that initially made them illegal.
00:51:45.560 President Reagan reversed that.
00:51:48.320 Then President Obama did it again and made it illegal.
00:51:51.740 So I think President Trump again acknowledged the truth, which is you you have to accept that the 1967 war happened.
00:51:59.720 These settlements are not.
00:52:01.740 So that didn't have any.
00:52:03.000 There was no joy in the president poking the State Department in the eye.
00:52:07.240 I think that the State Department didn't want him to do all of the foreign policy things he's done.
00:52:14.080 So he's poked them in the eye many times.
00:52:16.220 So whether it's, you know, the Iran deal, whether it's Paris climate, you know, all of these issues that he's done moving the embassy.
00:52:23.740 And now this they're used to it by now.
00:52:25.880 They don't like it.
00:52:26.580 They push back.
00:52:27.400 He does it anyway.
00:52:28.780 I'm not going to ask you the question that everybody asks you because you're not going to tell me.
00:52:33.180 And it's a waste of energy.
00:52:34.960 It's a waste of energy.
00:52:35.660 It's a waste of energy.
00:52:36.800 It just is.
00:52:38.240 You were an early Tea Party person.
00:52:40.760 I was an early Tea Party person.
00:52:42.640 People are tired.
00:52:43.780 This impeachment.
00:52:46.520 I've never seen anything so dishonest as this.
00:52:49.800 I've never seen, you know, the media keep saying, if this was, you know, in a court, the jury, this would be open and shut.
00:53:04.600 Well, if this was in a court of law, the president would have a right to call people to his defense as well.
00:53:11.600 You have to look at evidence.
00:53:13.560 You have to look at facts.
00:53:14.940 Now, you know, I'll be the first to say, do I think it's a good idea for the president to call foreign countries and ask them to investigate Americans?
00:53:25.080 No, I don't think that's a good idea.
00:53:26.860 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hang on.
00:53:30.200 Isn't it the job of the president?
00:53:34.040 Now, you could say he benefits from this with Joe Biden, whatever, but he was talking about this in 2017.
00:53:40.640 Rudy Giuliani is on the record talking about it.
00:53:43.180 If the vice president of the last administration with the State Department, Intel and everybody else were coercing the the Ukrainian hierarchy and getting them to join into this anti-corruption league,
00:54:03.740 which was totally corrupt and the and the vice president was enriching himself or his family and we are missing seven billion dollars.
00:54:15.740 And the president says in May, I don't want to do anything with these people.
00:54:20.940 I don't trust any of them.
00:54:22.280 They're all corrupt.
00:54:23.180 How is this wrong for a president to say, you know what, I want a clear, transparent investigation?
00:54:33.860 I want to know what happened.
00:54:36.240 I want to know who these people are and I want to know you, Mr.
00:54:40.520 President, if you are surrounded, my intel says you're still surrounded by the same people.
00:54:45.020 If you're surrounded by the same people, you can't do that.
00:54:50.260 I'm not going to give you anything.
00:54:51.720 He didn't violate anything doing that.
00:54:53.940 I'm just saying I don't think it's a good idea.
00:54:55.920 I think the investigation actually should start here in the United States.
00:54:59.180 I think we should look at what sort of conflict of interest Biden had, what was said to the prosecutor, because we've got the videos of things that he had said and things that he demanded.
00:55:08.540 I think we need to look into that.
00:55:10.300 But when you look at the facts, look at the phone calls that have all been provided.
00:55:15.380 Look at the facts.
00:55:18.000 He was talking to the president of Ukraine about corruption.
00:55:22.020 That president was elected to stop corruption, to stop corruption.
00:55:26.220 So there was a they were two presidents having a conversation, him bringing up the investigation.
00:55:31.180 The investigation didn't happen.
00:55:33.180 There's no sign of browbeating.
00:55:34.900 There's no sign of threats.
00:55:36.280 And the money flowed.
00:55:37.540 I don't know at what point that even qualifies for impeachment.
00:55:43.720 And that's the thing is, it's just so desperate.
00:55:47.120 You know, it's been one investigation after another investigation after another one.
00:55:51.500 The people are getting tired.
00:55:53.220 But more than that, the Democrats might slightly have an ounce of credibility had they not been trying to do this since the day he was elected.
00:56:01.660 And the media.
00:56:02.280 So where do those tea parties?
00:56:04.280 What what do we do now?
00:56:05.820 I do think I actually want them to go back and I want to look at the FISA warrant.
00:56:12.080 No, no, no.
00:56:12.740 What do we do?
00:56:14.240 The people.
00:56:15.140 That we have to the people have to have something to do because they're getting very frustrated again, because especially this they're seeing this with the media and it's not telling the truth.
00:56:32.100 It's not fair.
00:56:33.600 It's just not fair.
00:56:35.080 And the one thing about Americans on all sides, they're fair.
00:56:38.560 And when it's so clear this is not fair, it's a witch hunt.
00:56:44.200 They're going to get more and more frustrated and they should use the power of their voices and say that.
00:56:50.580 I mean, they have got to use the power of their voice to say this is wrong.
00:56:54.740 This is not what we asked for.
00:56:55.880 And this is what's so offensive to me.
00:56:57.780 We are less than a year away from an election.
00:57:00.140 I know.
00:57:00.340 Let the American people decide at what point.
00:57:04.940 I just have such I have problems with that.
00:57:09.460 Who was it that it was in the Democratic Party who said it's too dangerous to let the people?
00:57:15.820 That's terrible.
00:57:16.640 That's awful.
00:57:17.860 It's terrible to say that.
00:57:19.180 And so, I mean, I think that the American people need to get loud.
00:57:21.600 I think they need to be yelling and saying, look, we care about jobs in the economy.
00:57:26.260 Why is it the U.S.-Mexico-Canadian trade agreement getting done?
00:57:29.340 We care about this debt and deficit that we have in this booming economy.
00:57:33.180 Why isn't anybody addressing that?
00:57:35.500 You know, the country's being divided on illegal immigration.
00:57:38.140 At what point do they get in there and debate how we're going to vet people coming in and how we're going to secure the borders?
00:57:44.580 There are real issues that we need out there getting done.
00:57:47.420 And you're now going to have hearings wasting taxpayer dollars, wasting time, causing a distraction, which Russia and China love, by the way.
00:57:56.100 And you're going to continue to do this and not get anything done.
00:58:00.220 I mean, at some point, American citizens should be frustrated that their time and money is being wasted like this when they should have a vote on this in November anyway.
00:58:11.100 So let's just say.
00:58:18.300 2023 is going to become busy for you for some unknown reason.
00:58:22.460 What are you going to do between now and then?
00:58:24.300 What are you what are you going to do?
00:58:25.480 So, you know, I have really enjoyed just getting out and talking with people again, not Russia and China.
00:58:31.560 So that's been fun.
00:58:32.380 I wanted to write this book because I knew the facts would be there, but I wanted the emotion to be in there.
00:58:38.520 I wanted people to know how I felt.
00:58:40.420 I wanted them to know what it was like at the U.N., what it was the lessons I learned, the things that happened.
00:58:47.320 You know, I wanted to be able to give that.
00:58:49.620 I started a policy group called Stand for America.
00:58:51.960 And it's because my daughter is a senior in college.
00:58:54.780 My son's a senior in high school.
00:58:56.140 They don't get their news from television or newspapers.
00:58:59.060 They get it online.
00:59:00.320 And so we started that so that we could start talking about these issues, whether it's capitalism versus socialism, whether it's Medicare for all, whether it's why there's an anti-Israel bias, just throwing things out there.
00:59:11.220 That's doing fantastic.
00:59:12.700 And then I'm going to be campaigning for people and helping.
00:59:15.560 So I'm helping Republican governors get elected.
00:59:18.300 I did an event for the president.
00:59:19.820 I was with Cory Gardner in Colorado and Joni Ernst in Iowa.
00:59:23.480 And, you know, wherever I can be helpful, I will be.
00:59:25.960 But I know I'm too young to stop fighting.
00:59:28.840 I'm not going to stop fighting.
00:59:29.960 I'm going to always be out there trying to move the ball in any way that I can.
00:59:35.260 I hope you will spend some more time with us.
00:59:37.360 I love you.
00:59:39.240 I would love to come back.
00:59:40.940 This is a lot of fun.
00:59:41.980 I when I ran for governor the first time in 2010, you were the one I was listening to on the radio.
00:59:47.680 You were the one I was reading.
00:59:48.900 And I just was so in tune with what you how you thought and how you said it.
00:59:53.780 And so this is a real treat for me to come here.
00:59:56.060 Likewise.
00:59:56.720 Likewise.
00:59:57.560 Thank you.
00:59:58.140 Thanks so much.
00:59:58.780 Name of the book is with all due respect.
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