The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 66 ｜ The Miracle of Loving Yourself ｜ Kamal Ravikant ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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00:01:24.540 Today's podcast is very, very personal. And it is really meant for people who are struggling with

00:01:47.280 doubt right now, all the way to struggling with deep depression. It is really the secret

00:01:54.660 of life, I think. And it is brought in a very clear and concise and understandable way by a guy who

00:02:03.060 lived it. He was suicidal and not healthy at all. His name is Kamal Ravikant. And he wrote a book.

00:02:11.880 They kind of almost had to force himself to do. He knew it was the right thing.

00:02:15.280 And then almost chickened out. He wrote it and it became a number one bestseller.

00:02:20.660 The new expanded edition is out. Love yourself like your life depends on it.

00:02:26.700 This is a very powerful conversation with Kamal Ravikant.

00:02:31.300 I almost didn't publish love yourself like your life depends on it. I was terrified. Here I was,

00:02:51.180 a CEO who had fallen apart after his company failed, writing a book about how loving himself

00:02:56.460 saved him. I thought I would be the laughing stock and my career would be finished.

00:03:01.840 But I stepped through the fear and I shared my truth with the world. And what happened next changed my life.

00:03:09.620 What happened next?

00:03:13.940 What happened next was the book took off. The book took off and changed so many lives. This little self-published book on Amazon,

00:03:21.960 7,000 words, which is like 40 pages, right? And it was just me sharing my truth and how I'd overcome

00:03:29.180 this personal adversity by working on my inside, not on the outside, just working on the being within

00:03:34.820 and how that changed everything. Because you were, um, you were wildly depressed to say,

00:03:45.200 you say in the book, to say I was depressed would be a good day. Right. Right. That would have been an

00:03:49.600 achievement. Yeah. Right. So tell me what you're, tell me where you came from.

00:03:55.900 Well, you know, uh, when you build a company, when you're building companies and you have a career in

00:04:00.560 Silicon Valley, it kind of becomes your ego gets reattached and your success.

00:04:04.820 Yeah. You know, it's a, it's a human thing, but it's also a very cultural thing in building,

00:04:09.080 building hard and fast businesses. And then I built this company that when it's going to be my end

00:04:14.660 all my, okay, you know, I put every single dime I made in the last decade into it. I built it. It was

00:04:20.680 doing great. Then I finally took money from, uh, you know, some pretty spectacular names and the whole

00:04:25.840 thing blew up. It completely blew up and I lost everything. I was making payroll off credit cards and I was

00:04:31.080 living off credit cards and I got really sick and depressed. And you know, my, my whole sense of

00:04:37.600 identity was attached to my company. It was my expression to the world. And so when that fell

00:04:42.860 apart, I fell apart. And, um, and that was such an interesting lesson. It was like, look, all I should

00:04:50.200 have focused on what I gave to it, not what the result is. Cause the result is bigger than us. The result is

00:04:56.360 dependent on so many different things. Uh, but instead I just focused on the result being,

00:05:01.940 being me. If that failed, that means I failed. I let everybody down. I lost people money. I was,

00:05:06.760 you know, I was a failure and I didn't deserve to be here. And it brought up all these other

00:05:10.960 insecurities and issues. And I really didn't want to be here and to put it mildly. And one night I

00:05:18.920 remember I was in such misery and I was really, really sick. I'd been working for almost four years,

00:05:23.600 never took a day off, you know, 12, 16 hour days, you know, just charging ahead, you know,

00:05:28.840 the whole macho business culture thing. And I realized I can't do this anymore. I'm miserable.

00:05:35.840 I'm going to get either get out of this or die trying. And I staggered over to my desk. I have a

00:05:40.000 journal on my desk and I sat down and I wrote a vow to myself. Now something I learned in life is if

00:05:47.400 you make a commitment to yourself, it is, it is a sacred act. It is something to you, between you,

00:05:52.700 and something bigger than you, that is pure. And if you make a commitment, you make a commitment,

00:05:57.520 a vow, you know, a marriage vow. It's, it's a real thing. So vow to yourself is a real thing.

00:06:03.420 You got to live it. But what I didn't expect was this vow came out and it was a vow purely in a

00:06:08.920 moment to save myself. I said, I'm going to love myself. I was not that guy who thought about

00:06:14.200 things in those terms, you know, like I need to love myself or I need to like myself or anything.

00:06:18.560 But I don't know where it came from. It came from something deep within something you are.

00:06:23.020 Yeah.

00:06:23.500 Just so the audience knows you and I are friends and I think you, I think of you as one of the

00:06:30.140 most peaceful, humble, sweetest men. I know you are just so kind and you think of others and

00:06:39.700 it would never occur to me that you didn't love yourself. Were you this guy before?

00:06:48.060 I was. I was. Well, look, we all have our personalities, right? I mean, I've always been,

00:06:52.180 I like to think a good man, but no, I didn't love myself, you know, and I had a, you know,

00:06:58.040 I came from a childhood that didn't really encourage that or didn't represent that. I came from abuse and

00:07:04.700 we had a lot of issues, you know, growing up that, that you still deal with it. Actually,

00:07:09.640 like you're always beating yourself up. You don't even realize where that came from. Right. And you

00:07:13.880 realize it's a deeper thing. Um, and so no, I, I wasn't the love yourself guy. Let me put it that

00:07:20.340 way. You know, I'll tell you one of those, you and I have similar, I mean, reading this, it's like,

00:07:28.600 I'm there. Got it. Um, I had problems in my childhood. My mother committed suicide, blah,

00:07:38.980 blah, blah. And that's the way I used to deal with it. Blah, blah, blah. I'm fine. I'm totally fine.

00:07:43.980 And weak people have problems with it and I'm moving on. It's good. So everything's fine.

00:07:50.500 But it wasn't until I was 30 until I just hit a brick wall that I was like, Whoa, no, I am not fine

00:07:58.980 from that. I never have been. And you create a tape young that's just playing over and over in your

00:08:08.560 head and you don't really realize it. So where you were one of, were you one of those guys that you

00:08:15.060 were like, I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm a doer. I do things. I joined the military. I've climbed mountains

00:08:20.100 in the Himalayas. I do things. I'm a doer. I'll go accomplish anything. That's, that was

00:08:25.060 my, I think my, my way of not confronting things, you know, you just keep them moving

00:08:30.480 forward.

00:08:31.100 Did you know you weren't confronting things or did you just think that's who you are?

00:08:35.220 You're fine. And I'm just moving. I just do these things.

00:08:38.000 That's a great question. I thought I had, you know, when I was in college, I went to therapy,

00:08:42.120 you know, for some childhood stuff. Actually in this book, I talk about very openly, like, you

00:08:47.280 know, I was molested as a child and then these other things that happened as well. And I went

00:08:52.320 and I thought I had covered it. It's done. I fixed it. Right. Move on. Right. Right. It's

00:08:58.420 not that simple. Right. It's not because it's not about, it's not about exploring it. It's

00:09:08.560 about letting it go in the right way. And, and then you're left, if you've done that with

00:09:19.380 the hardest part. And that is forgiving you.

00:09:23.820 Yes. Forgiving yourself, which is, which is the ultimate freedom. And it's funny, right?

00:09:30.760 It's like when you realize the weight of what you carry, you know, it's, uh, it's, it's heavy.

00:09:37.780 It's part of, we don't realize we can. We just think this is our life. This is us, you know,

00:09:41.940 and usually it takes hitting a wall, you know, being humbled. It takes being humbled to really

00:09:48.580 look at ourselves with a, with a different eye. And, but I think that's where, um, you know,

00:09:54.640 that's where rebirth happens, you know, and probably multiple times in our lives. I don't think

00:09:59.120 we hit a point. It's like, okay, this time I fixed it all. No, no, I've gotten, you know,

00:10:04.160 I've gotten to the point to where, uh, Oh, and I will never pray for humility again because

00:10:10.880 Oh, that's that happens fast. Oh my God. You're so right. Yeah. That happens. And in ways that

00:10:17.920 you didn't think it would, you, at least with me, I prayed for humility. This is in the nineties

00:10:23.660 and really prayed for humility and to be able to be humbled and, and, uh, and, and more quiet and

00:10:30.620 thoughtful. And Oh my gosh, so fast. I was humbled, but I was humbled in a way to where I was actually

00:10:38.020 pissed about it. I was like, how, what are you? And it took a friend, a guru friend of mine.

00:10:43.740 He went, isn't this what you've been asking for? And I was like, Oh my gosh, it is.

00:10:47.620 It is. So we fight. We might even say we want to be more humble, but we fight against it.

00:10:56.620 That is true. That is true. It's a, you know, it's a, it's a tough one. I'd like to learn more

00:11:03.360 through joy and love than through getting smacked around. Yeah. Yeah. You know? And so, so you are,

00:11:11.940 um, uh, you're finding yourself being humbled and it was the loss of the business. It was a loss of

00:11:21.140 business, my identity, uh, my health, um, all of it just coming apart at one point, you know? And

00:11:27.520 it's funny looking back, I'm like, look, dude, it could have been much worse, but it's funny when

00:11:31.680 you're, when we are in our, in the thick of our things, it's, it's the worst thing ever. And life is

00:11:37.220 this life is just darkness. You know, we fall into that, that hole. Um, but it took that and

00:11:43.900 you know what? It changed my life because of that vow, the one commitment to myself.

00:11:49.620 So that can go the other way. Yes, sir. Uh, because I'm an alcoholic and for probably three

00:12:00.560 years, I made a vow to myself every day. Don't drink today. Don't drink today. I'm strong. I can

00:12:08.980 make it. I don't need that. By the end of the night, I was drinking the next morning I'd get up

00:12:16.420 and I'd look in the mirror and I would say, you are worthless. You couldn't do it for one day. And

00:12:24.840 I'd make the vow again. And I couldn't. So there's, when you say there's something sacred,

00:12:32.700 I believe that to be true, but I think, I think to do what you did and take, make that vow and then

00:12:41.220 do it and accomplish it is really hard.

00:12:47.120 Yeah. I think it comes down to my belief in the sacredness of that, that act. If you truly believe

00:12:54.080 something is sacred, you're going to give it more weight and you're going to put it above you.

00:12:59.440 So what makes that sacred to you?

00:13:01.420 It's a belief. It's a belief that I am, I am committing to all, everything that exists,

00:13:06.960 something bigger than me. You can call it God, you can call it whatever, but I'm committed to

00:13:10.280 everything. This is it. There's no going back. It's almost like Cortez. The ships are burning.

00:13:14.600 Yeah. You know, and I understand the alcoholic thing. I went through a phase where I tried to

00:13:18.780 destroy myself with drugs. Yeah. Name them all. I've tried them and I've seen, you know, I've said,

00:13:24.200 I've seen the devil, you know, the devil is very seductive, you know, the hard drugs. Oh my gosh.

00:13:30.320 Yeah. There's a reason why addiction exists and, um, explore that for a second. What would you like to

00:13:38.400 know? There's a reason addiction exists. Well, addiction, you know, I'll give you an example.

00:13:44.600 Um, we were talking about this earlier before the podcast, I went through some, a really traumatic,

00:13:51.160 uh, surgery three months ago. I like, and, and, uh, I was basically dead and where I bled to death.

00:13:57.380 I was spraying blood everywhere after surgery, after I was, as I was doing the hospital, artery

00:14:01.300 burst and I was spraying, spraying blood on everyone and basically bled to death and had to grab me and

00:14:05.840 shove me into an operating room and slash me open and go fix it. Wow. To save my life. And literally it was,

00:14:10.960 it was the, it was that, that close. And so when I got out of the hospital, I was in insane amount

00:14:17.120 of pain because when your blood builds up enough that it bursts out of your body, you know, it's

00:14:22.100 not pretty, right? Oh, I can't imagine. It's like an oil well coming out of you. I can't imagine.

00:14:26.900 And, um, you don't want to either. Sorry for the details. You know, be pretty freaky.

00:14:32.380 And I was in a level, I didn't know pain like this could exist. You know, like the level of pain I

00:14:38.260 was in, cause it was also in the lower abdominal area. There's a lot of nerves there. And so I was

00:14:43.760 on, you name it, every kind of narcotic they gave me, you know, and the hospital, it was also IVs

00:14:48.940 and pills and that. When I got out, the surgeon said to me, I had multiple surgeons. One of them

00:14:53.160 said like, look, if there's anyone who qualifies for these drugs, it's you, you know? So don't worry,

00:14:57.720 we'll keep giving you enough. We just have to call in prescriptions every time because of new laws

00:15:01.840 and a week into it. And you know, let me tell you, they're nice. They dull the pain. They kind of make

00:15:07.560 you not care. You're just lying there. And also you're lying there incapacitated at home. And I

00:15:12.300 realized a week into it, I went off cold Turkey, just cold Turkey. Why? Because I turned in this

00:15:19.440 manuscript for this book before I had gone to the surgery. It's expecting a basic elective surgery.

00:15:24.180 I'll be out. And now the publisher was sending me the final proofs with the copy edits. And as you

00:15:29.820 know, when you're a writer, you care about every word and you want your words to be there, not the

00:15:34.440 copy editor's word. And I was looking at the material and realizing my mind wasn't there.

00:15:40.960 If I was on these drugs, I couldn't give my all to this book. And so it was like, I realized, look,

00:15:46.920 this was purpose. And that was, that was bigger than pain. I would deal with pain, forget the drugs.

00:15:52.940 I need to be clear because I have purpose. And I think, and I realized looking at times in my life

00:15:58.860 when, when I had, when I struggled with, when I was just like, okay, I'm going to go. I thought I

00:16:04.920 was playing with drugs. You think you're playing, you know, you think you're stronger than them.

00:16:09.800 That's also a very interesting thing. I always thought I was stronger at it. It won't, it won't

00:16:13.820 destroy me. I'm different. Right. I will, I'll do it for a little while. I'll get out of it. No one will ever

00:16:19.060 know, you know, and no one ever really did, honestly, you know, um, but for the grace of

00:16:25.120 God, here am I, because I tried them all on their day, there's dangerous stuff out there. And I was,

00:16:29.140 I think I was trying to destroy myself. And, but those are the times where I think I didn't have

00:16:34.040 purpose where I was drifting. But if you have purpose, if you have a vision, if you have something

00:16:39.960 you move towards as you think is bigger than you, for me, that's putting this book out to the world.

00:16:43.500 This book is so important. It's bigger than me. It's, it belongs to the world. Whereas me,

00:16:48.240 I'm going to be here for a certain amount of time. I almost left. I may leave again.

00:16:55.300 But the book, but the book was more important. So I had purpose. And I think with addiction,

00:17:02.800 and I've talked to some friends about it, who've been through it, you know, we're talking about

00:17:06.080 who've dealt with it. And it's like, usually they were to beat addiction when they found something

00:17:10.580 bigger than them. People can find faith. People can find something, family, people can find

00:17:15.720 something, you know, whatever, but it's got to be bigger than you.

00:17:20.620 If I can add a caveat, that is part of it. But unless you deal with what's actually here,

00:17:33.820 Oh yeah. Yeah. You just make your life about religion or your job or whatever is bigger than

00:17:42.640 you. You're absolutely right. And then you're, you're set up. Cause I did that over and over and

00:17:47.440 over again and not thinking that I needed to look inside. And every time I would accomplish that,

00:17:54.620 it was like totally empty.

00:17:58.040 Yes. That is so true. It becomes addiction of its own and it's never enough when you get that point.

00:18:04.760 Like there's this, so, you know, it's, it's cliche, but it's anticlimactic. Then your next one,

00:18:09.840 the next hit, the next hit. You're absolutely right.

00:18:12.160 And it's, and as soon you realize there's nothing to any of that. And then it really

00:18:19.140 comes raining down on your head. Yeah. So I was struck by how you talk about, I mean,

00:18:29.900 well, the name of the book is love yourself. Like your life depends on it. And it does. And I was

00:18:35.120 struck by the way you changed the tapes in your head and go through that.

00:18:47.920 Yeah. That was okay. That was actually very interesting because so here I was that night

00:18:53.840 in that journal, I wrote this vial, I sit back and I think, and I wrote it so hard. So desperation.

00:19:00.440 I think I just carved it to my desk, right? To the paper. And I looked at, I remember being stunned.

00:19:07.940 Like, what is this? But I knew because I had done it, I had to do it because that comes out of personal

00:19:14.400 belief. This was sacred. I connected to something bigger. I committed something bigger. What do I,

00:19:19.260 I didn't know. I didn't, you know, like we all, everyone tells us, you know, love yourself. Great.

00:19:24.500 How? You know, it does not, it does not mean go take bubble baths and drink champagne. That's not

00:19:28.740 loving yourself. Right. It's one thing above is known as every, it's always an inner game.

00:19:34.960 It's not the outer. You can't, if you try to change things in the outer, it doesn't last.

00:19:39.840 Once you change things in the inner, you start to shift and that lasts and you have to do it

00:19:44.120 consistently. Right. And so I was like, okay, how do I do it? I didn't have access to any books.

00:19:50.100 I didn't want to read other people's theories on how to love myself. You know, most, most of them,

00:19:54.620 I didn't know. So I just sat around and I just started trying things. I started like, I was,

00:20:00.700 you know, like I'm in New York these days and you, I pass sometimes, you know, it's really sad.

00:20:04.520 These, you'll see people talking to themselves, homeless people, you know, there's a lot of mental

00:20:07.960 problems there. And if you'd seen me, you would have thought I was one of those people.

00:20:11.780 I was just walking around and talking to myself, trying to figure out how do I make myself love

00:20:15.640 myself. And in the end I started, I was like, what is the stupidest, simplest thing I can do no

00:20:21.260 matter how bad I'm feeling? I'm just going to start telling myself I love myself. And I realized as I

00:20:27.200 started to do it, that I started doing it like loudly in my apartment, not loudly around other human

00:20:32.560 things that are quietly in my head. But one thing it did was it started to shift my thoughts away

00:20:37.260 from all the negative thoughts, which were the opposite of loving myself, which were the darkness.

00:20:41.880 This all of a sudden gave me a ray of light. And then what was interesting was I think about three,

00:20:46.860 four days in by accident, I started making myself feeling it by just feeling breath, by feeling light,

00:20:53.180 by feeling love coming in when I said it and something just shifted. I was like, oh, wait a minute,

00:20:58.460 this is something here. So go into it. So I would just go down these rabbit holes and try things.

00:21:03.160 And if it worked, I'd go deeper. If it didn't, I'd throw it away. It was a clinical trial, sample size

00:21:08.460 of one. The only one that matters is the self, if you're going to work on yourself. And before I knew

00:21:14.140 it, I was trying these things and I was like keeping records of it. And a little obsessively,

00:21:20.680 I must admit.

00:21:22.480 When you're in that place, that's all there is.

00:21:25.280 Yes. Yes. You understand.

00:21:27.460 You, you're, you like your life depends on it. That's what I like. Like your life depends

00:21:32.020 on it. Cause you know, in that space it does.

00:21:35.140 You know what it was? I remember having this image in my head that I was hanging off a cliff

00:21:39.480 just with my fingers. And that's all I had was my fingers. And I had to like love myself

00:21:44.240 at that desperate intensity that that was going to save me and pull me up. Like that kind

00:21:48.340 of intensity is what I walked around. And you know what? It worked.

00:21:51.100 So my father taught me, he was a, um, a practitioner of, um, uh, philosophy from California that was

00:22:04.260 big in the forties and fifties and sixties. And, um, and it's, it's called, um, the science

00:22:12.560 of mind.

00:22:13.400 Oh yeah. Ernest Holmes and those guys. Yeah.

00:22:15.680 It's great. Right. Yeah. And that's why I think you and I have so much in common and

00:22:21.520 why I recognized so much of this. And my father said to me at one point, he said, you're thinking

00:22:28.680 all the wrong thoughts. And, uh, he said, get up tomorrow and just make a check mark of how

00:22:36.400 many negative thoughts, just split a paper, positive, negative, and then just don't think

00:22:41.700 about them. Don't dwell on it. Just check, check, check. Before I got to the first stoplight,

00:22:46.600 45 minutes up in the morning, I was, I had like 30 negative, no positives. And I was like,

00:22:54.140 got it. And great exercise. Yeah, it is powerful exercise. It is. And, um, uh, when you, when

00:23:05.040 you first think of just think, I love myself, it's really hard because you're most likely

00:23:11.160 not in the place of love. You're in the opposite. Yeah. And you, and you, so you don't believe

00:23:16.380 it. You've rebellious. Right. Right. But the, the science of mind is the idea that the word

00:23:26.380 is the, the most powerful thing. Everything starts as a thought and all thoughts are creative.

00:23:34.100 And so if you're thinking all these, you're creating this negative and you have to train

00:23:41.060 yourself to think the other way. Cause the world is going to say horrible things about

00:23:46.120 you. You know what I mean? You got enough negative going on. You have to be the source

00:23:51.120 of your own positive. And I don't, for me, at least it took a while to say those things

00:24:01.880 and have that change. Um, because I had looked at myself in the mirror for three years and

00:24:09.680 said, Oh, that's right. You're nothing. So you, this have this, this happened to you

00:24:17.200 quickly because I was doing it so intensely. And so then what I also realized was, look,

00:24:22.660 I can't keep this intensity up all my life. You know, I, I, I'm going to go off and live

00:24:27.460 and I'm going to, so what I did was after a while, I almost created like a little practice,

00:24:31.440 like a mental practice. I would ever do that I would do every day that would keep it going

00:24:35.040 forward. You know, what I realized was, look, we spend our, we spend a lot of time, time

00:24:39.780 about health and fitness. You know, we will, if you want to get in shape, you go to the gym

00:24:43.840 every day. You don't go to the gym once a year. You know, we talk about eating healthy.

00:24:47.720 If you want to don't have diabetes or heart disease, you eat a certain way every day.

00:24:51.560 You don't just do that once a year, but the mind, the most important thing, the inner,

00:24:55.720 the most important thing is the one we pay the least attention to as the one that we have

00:24:59.200 to work on daily. It's the most powerful. It's the most important. It runs the whole show.

00:25:03.900 Mm-hmm. And the mind is different than the brain.

00:25:08.240 Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. So it was originally was the intensity, but then this practice that

00:25:18.300 I came up with, and then honestly, you know, how you said about how looking in the mirror

00:25:22.340 and then, you know, like, like, you know, making the commitment not to drink and then

00:25:25.660 you, then you drank that night. Over time, I would get lazy and I would start, you know,

00:25:30.340 when things get going good, oh, I got it. It's figured out. Life's good. It's on autopilot

00:25:36.820 now. I don't need it, you know? And so, like, I get lazy and that's another thing I wanted

00:25:41.240 to share in the book is like, look, look what happens to the mind. It goes back to old grooves

00:25:46.840 and these old patterns come up. You know, patterns are patterns. They will be there. Our job is

00:25:51.460 to put a new, a more powerful, more empowering and beautiful patterns to serve our life. I was reading

00:25:57.280 this, you know, talking about the new thought. I was reading this new thought book recently

00:26:01.780 and he said, you know, God acts, the devil reacts. And he's talking about the nature of

00:26:08.600 the mind. So we can either be proactive in our thoughts and who we want to be, or we can

00:26:15.240 be reactive. Where's the power? You know, where's the control? Where's the choice? It's

00:26:20.440 in, it's in acting, it's in choosing consciously. And I don't know how, and I'm grateful for it.

00:26:25.540 I still can't point what brought, it wasn't about to like myself. It wasn't about to be

00:26:30.140 better. It was about to love myself. And I think I stumbled into something really powerful

00:26:34.080 and primal because we are all wired for it. You know, we're just literally wired for it.

00:26:38.220 It's our deepest need.

00:26:39.240 It is our deepest need and it's our deepest gift. You know, that's the irony. You know,

00:26:45.560 we are what we seek, you know, we are what we're seeking here. So I stumbled on it and,

00:26:50.720 you know, for the grace of God, here am I.

00:26:52.960 So as a Christian, and I know you've taken Eastern and Western philosophy and kind of

00:27:18.800 taken the best of all of them. But yeah, somebody said to me the other day, I can't believe you

00:27:29.620 believe in what you do with your faith. I'm like, not jamming it down your throat, buddy. It works for

00:27:35.440 me. It just works for me. And we were talking about it. And I said, quite honestly, I don't even

00:27:42.500 care if it's true in the end. It's true to me. And it makes me a better human being. Yes. And

00:27:52.220 and I, what I needed was the Christian ritual of baptism. I needed take my sins, all the crap that

00:28:08.720 I've done, take it all away, wash me clean so I can start all over again. Maybe that's true. I think

00:28:16.620 it is. Maybe that's true. Maybe that's just a psychological game. It doesn't matter. It

00:28:23.140 works. It's really important. So how did you wash all of that stuff away?

00:28:31.280 Well, I also have a background, you know, in Christianity. I was baptized, actually,

00:28:35.540 Southern Baptist in Folkman, Georgia, boot camp. The full-on, the full-on dunking, the whole works,

00:28:42.220 right? And I actually started the Bible quite thoroughly for a while. So I know it quite

00:28:46.600 well. And then I've gone and explored the world and just tried to take everything in

00:28:51.340 and see what works for me. In the end, you know, it's so interesting you say that. It's

00:28:55.980 like, ultimately, what makes me better? What makes me a better me? That's all I can work

00:29:01.140 on. And so...

00:29:03.140 Not just better, but a better... You know, it's like capitalism. You can use capitalism to become

00:29:13.680 rich. Or you can use capitalism to help people and feed people and lift people and make their

00:29:23.000 lives easier. And the byproduct will be you get rich. You know what I mean?

00:29:27.940 And so, it's not just a better person that you, I'm guessing, that you were striving

00:29:36.640 for, but it's a more loving, serving, giving.

00:29:41.260 Well, that's a better version of me.

00:29:42.980 Yeah.

00:29:43.740 And, you know, here's the funny thing. When you do that, the world becomes that for you.

00:29:48.560 Like, look, that little book I put out, right? Where did it take me? About a month to write

00:29:53.360 because I wrote a lot and then I edited it down to what I just wanted to put out. And

00:29:58.100 it took off. And it went off. It's self-published. No marketing, whatever. So, it went on to sell

00:30:04.740 like half a million copies, right? I have so many emails from people and I did something

00:30:09.440 most authors don't do because I didn't expect to sell any copies. I don't see, Glenn. I expected

00:30:13.020 to sell 10 copies and I was going to buy eight of them to give to friends, right?

00:30:17.660 And I basically put my email address in the back of the book. I was like, hey, if you're

00:30:23.200 interested, just email me. Well, guess what? People emailed me. I have thousands, if not tens

00:30:28.200 of thousands of emails from people about what this simple act of sharing my truth did for them.

00:30:33.480 How it changed their lives. I have met people because some people wrote me. I was like,

00:30:37.200 I got to meet you to confirm this. Who said I had a gun in my hand and someone gave me a

00:30:42.280 book and I read it, put the gun away. And I met a guy who told me about, you know, a bag

00:30:47.340 and the pills and he read my book and he put those away, went home and put it away and put

00:30:51.120 his daughter to bed instead. You know, like these kind of stories. And what did I do? All

00:30:55.600 I did was share my truth, just my process, right? And so when you're, and I did it from

00:31:01.440 a loving place, I was loving myself then. If I wasn't, I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have

00:31:04.740 taken the risk. I would have been, I thought I was going to be a complete, you know, basically

00:31:08.980 tart and feather written out of Silicon Valley. Like, what are you doing? You lost, you inspired

00:31:13.520 investors money and now you're writing a little book. Hey, look at me. I'm loving myself.

00:31:16.720 I mean, that's crazy. That's crazy talk, right?

00:31:19.880 Right. Especially when it starts with, hey, kind of mental breakdown.

00:31:23.820 It makes everybody feel good. Like who's going to invest in me again? Yeah. Right. And

00:31:32.280 instead, look, all these people that just were so generous or so kind just came out of

00:31:36.800 nowhere, bought the book and told me their stories about their lives changed. It changed

00:31:40.980 my life.

00:31:41.500 So it's not, it's not about, um, that, I, I, I say this with respect for what you're teaching

00:31:53.380 in here, but it's, there's something to be said when you're in this place of despair, suicide,

00:32:02.580 you know, the darkness is, you feel absolutely alone and you feel like everybody will judge

00:32:11.560 you. You feel, um, that, uh, nobody else could understand this. Most people don't in your

00:32:18.900 life. You can't really explain it. Um, and when somebody speaks from a very vulnerable place

00:32:31.320 about that, you tend to look around going, I, I thought it was just me. And we all have

00:32:40.260 pieces of this in us, you know? And so it's, it's, it's healing just to know I'm not alone.

00:32:51.180 That's actually one of the reasons why I did the expanded version, because I get some, all

00:32:55.800 these emails, I also got a lot of questions and I realized I had held back a lot because

00:33:00.920 I was still scared of putting myself out there. And so if I was going to do it, if I was going

00:33:07.560 to have this book, I know, well, I need to be full out. So I need to share like how I've used

00:33:10.880 this to overcome childhood, this, that, whatever, because people need to know they're not alone.

00:33:16.760 So take us through, how do you get past childhood?

00:33:21.780 Getting past is maybe not the right word. It's coming to terms and still loving that part of

00:33:26.120 yourself. Like one of the biggest shifts has been for me is, um, and look, I don't need to put my

00:33:32.380 dirty laundry in a book. I did it for a reason, right? Every word is meant to help. And why do I

00:33:38.220 share, you know, my mom doesn't know yet that I was molested. I have to have that conversation with

00:33:42.760 her, you know, and I put it, it's in a book and I haven't told my mom yet. I'm terrified, Glenn.

00:33:48.740 It's going to break her heart. And yet I put in a book, you know, yeah, that's because I was getting

00:33:55.800 emails.

00:33:56.080 I wrote a book, I wrote a book about my mom's suicide and I hadn't talked to my dad about it.

00:34:02.520 Wow.

00:34:02.880 And, uh, and I was terrified. What is he going to say? What is he going to say? Because as a family,

00:34:09.180 we never talked about it. And so we never really, I'd gotten together with my sisters and said,

00:34:16.700 okay, I'm on a journey to try to get better. And we have to talk about mom's suicide.

00:34:23.660 And my sister jumped up, my younger sister jumped up and she's two years older than me. And she said,

00:34:31.060 I did not kill her. And I said, Whoa, what? And I said, of course, where did that come from?

00:34:40.580 And she said, you said to me, cause they had an argument right before I'm 13, 14 years old.

00:34:49.540 And I said, if something happened to her, it's your fault. She had carried that into her forties,

00:34:58.820 into her forties. And, uh, I know what you're feeling talking to your mom.

00:35:06.500 Yeah.

00:35:07.060 It's terrifying.

00:35:08.180 But why do these things? It's because they help. If we're going to put our work out to the world,

00:35:13.140 we have to tell the truth. Right. And I get emails from people and they're struggling with it. And I

00:35:18.340 have to say like, look, I've struggled with this and this is what I've done. And it, and all of these

00:35:23.220 things, they're human things. What doesn't have to been through X or Y or Z to identify, because

00:35:29.220 inside we're the same fear is fear, pain is pain, love is love. You know, in the end it's the internal

00:35:34.500 thing. One of the biggest shifts I had, as I started looking myself from a love, as I was

00:35:39.700 loving myself and looking myself, looking at myself from a loving place, because it becomes a state of

00:35:44.900 being. And then your thoughts shift. It's almost like you look at your memories from a different

00:35:50.100 place. And so this child that I was almost, I was ashamed of. Right. That I kind of like, when I had

00:35:56.180 memories, I would just block them off. I realized, oh my God, the strength. Imagine this child, what it took

00:36:02.900 to go through all this and say, somehow get through it and become the man I've become. It's because of

00:36:08.900 him. I owe him. That is strength. What I thought was what I was looking at was shame and weakness.

00:36:14.740 All of a sudden I look back and I'm in awe of this child. What a blessing that is. It really is. It

00:36:21.620 completely shifts everything. And it's just same event. Event hasn't changed. It's looking at it from a

00:36:28.660 place of love for myself, which is a love for this child. I hate to quote Marianne Williamson.

00:36:36.740 Miracle is a change of perspective. And that's a good one.

00:36:42.020 So what are you afraid of talking to your mom? What's your greatest fear on that?

00:36:45.860 I'm afraid of the guilt or the pain she'll feel about maybe not being able to protect me

00:36:50.740 at this place. We were at that where it happened. I don't know. I don't want to cause any pain to my

00:36:57.300 mother. Part of me is like, maybe she will read the book, but you know, your family's like my

00:37:05.380 family. They're not impressed. Hey, I got a bestseller. Yeah. Yeah. I think my brother,

00:37:11.060 you've read it. It's like, no, I've been busy with family where I'm like, dude, I almost died putting

00:37:15.220 this book out and you haven't read the book. It's so funny. It is so funny. So you talk about,

00:37:26.660 I think it's six years later, that's six, seven. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Where you're on the roll.

00:37:33.940 You're, you're going and six years later fall apart. What happened? I stopped doing the practice.

00:37:43.140 I stopped, uh, eating my own dog food. I thought I had it. So I just got lazy and I let life instead

00:37:49.700 of acting, I started reacting to life. I was having issues in life. So I started reacting to life. And

00:37:54.500 eventually I had a painful breakup happen with someone I love more than anything I have ever loved. And,

00:38:01.620 uh, and I fell apart with it. And, and what was interesting was I didn't, it wasn't just the

00:38:08.420 falling apart with it. That was hard. It was the, now I was dealing with the shame, like, look,

00:38:12.100 I'm the guy who wrote the book and how to do this. I'm the guy who gets these emails from people and

00:38:17.620 how not to do this. I'm the guy who gets email people saying, you've helped me not to do this.

00:38:21.700 And look at me falling apart. And I realized I had to go back in to what I had, what had literally

00:38:28.660 saved me once and just do it again. And what's funny is this has happened a couple of times.

00:38:34.500 And each time I go do it again, part of me is like, is it going to work?

00:38:37.060 You know, it's like, there's this hope or trust, but it's still like, is it going to work this time?

00:38:42.740 I don't know. Because, um, it's funny, the mind, you know, just the, the tricks it plays.

00:38:47.780 And so I had to do it from scratch. And what I did was at the time, um, I started keeping,

00:38:53.540 I kept a journal of what I was doing in my internal self. And as I was doing it,

00:38:58.660 I started getting better and better and better. I realized, oh my God, this is one of the missing

00:39:02.740 pieces of the book because there's so many nuances on working in the inner self.

00:39:06.980 And what I did was I kept a record of what I was doing in the inner self.

00:39:10.740 For instance, what do you do? Tell me, take me through your practice.

00:39:15.540 Well, for example, there is the foundation, which is, I literally make myself feel love

00:39:19.860 for myself all throughout the day, where I walk around with breath, with light, with feeling it in.

00:39:25.860 Look, I can walk around thinking anything I want to think. Why don't I choose the thought I want to

00:39:30.180 think? And I just do it consciously until it becomes the dominant thought that takes practice.

00:39:34.900 People, people, I, I say this all the time. Um, even in the, in my own family,

00:39:43.780 everybody will be upset, including me about something stupid. And I'll just finally stop and go, stop,

00:39:51.300 stop. Why are we dwelling on this for another second? This let's just, let's all let it go.

00:39:59.940 It happened. None of us, it wasn't our fault, blah, blah, blah. It's over. Life is such a choice.

00:40:09.780 And I don't think people understand that's when I was getting better, I was reading Einstein and,

00:40:15.860 and, um, and Hawking and, and, um, uh, Carl Sagan. I'm fascinated by time and space.

00:40:24.820 The idea of space time. It's one, there is not, it's only to mark your position in a map. It's only

00:40:34.580 there to say space time. Oh yeah. That happened to me when I was here and the planet was there and I was

00:40:44.100 standing here. Well, I'm not there anymore. It's not, that has nothing to do with today unless

00:40:53.380 I don't file it away properly. Do you know what I mean?

00:40:56.820 Oh, very much so. Very much so. In fact, um, you know, there's, there's, I recently read this quote

00:41:02.260 that just made me laugh and laugh and laugh and Einstein quote and Niels Bohr, you know,

00:41:06.180 Niels Bohr was father of quantum mechanics and, and, you know, Einstein has a famous quote saying,

00:41:10.740 you know, uh, God doesn't play dice for the universe. And most people don't know Niels Bohr's

00:41:15.780 retort to that. He's like, Einstein, stop telling God what to do.

00:41:23.060 That's good. That's good.

00:41:24.660 I laughed, I think for an hour, you know, just, um, yeah, it's, you know, it's thought. We think

00:41:32.020 we're thinking most of the time, but we're running loops with just patterns, right? It takes conscious

00:41:36.820 effort to steer the thought to steer the horse, but it's a thought that runs the show. So my

00:41:42.340 fundamental thing is this one thought about love and being in love for myself, right? Just pure. And

00:41:48.340 you know, I talk about faith in here. I talk about belief, you know, it doesn't, it could be,

00:41:53.700 God loves me. It could be whatever, you know, whatever is your thing. What is it? Whatever

00:41:58.020 is your fundamental primary thing? Live it inside. Don't give it lip service. Don't give it like one

00:42:05.220 day a week service, live it inside. And that's where transformation happens. That's one thing I've

00:42:10.180 learned. You work in the inside with that kind of focus, transformation happens. You get better,

00:42:15.540 and your life gets better. Every single time your action gets better, your thoughts get better,

00:42:20.740 people around you get better. It just is the nature of reality that I've learned.

00:42:25.060 And so I start with the very basic thought and I make myself, sometimes what I'll do is I'll just

00:42:29.940 stop throughout the day and I'll take 10 deep breaths. Just 10 deep and, you know, we're breathing

00:42:34.820 anyway, all right? And deep and purposeful breaths and just letting light and letting love for myself

00:42:41.380 and breathe out whatever needs to go. And you know, usually by the eighth breath, you know what comes out?

00:42:46.180 Thank you. So it becomes a cycle of love and gratitude, love and gratitude, bringing in love,

00:42:52.020 release and gratitude. And I walk around in that. And you know, this is just adding and adding and

00:42:58.180 compounding in my head where like that becomes my state of being. Now it's, I'm not perfect at it.

00:43:03.620 I don't think I ever will be, but it sure beats the alternative, which is just letting my mind

00:43:09.620 being a monkey throw bananas everywhere. And it, it will eventually become fear and loathing.

00:43:17.060 Yeah. Darkness. You know, one of the best things someone ever told me was, look, darkness is the

00:43:22.820 absence of light. When you're in darkness, if you're in pain, if you're in fear, loathing, anger,

00:43:27.940 whatever, you don't fight it. You don't win by fighting darkness. What you do is you go to the light.

00:43:33.060 How do you go to the light? He said, find the nearest switch, turn the light, go to the window,

00:43:36.820 pull out your rack, start cleaning the window. Right. And light will come in naturally take

00:43:40.660 the darkness away. So, so the inside on the mind, this is, I'm creating light. I'm literally

00:43:46.900 creating light for myself and it works. You know, it's really simple. Like the truth,

00:43:51.620 truth profound, the best things always are the simplest, you know, to the point of being idiotic.

00:43:57.300 Right. When I've almost, um, yeah, love yourself. Like your life depends on it. You're like, okay,

00:44:05.060 that's a great bumper sticker. No, no, no. It's true. I should do it. It actually works.

00:44:11.220 Yeah. And my life is completely transformed. Once I, after that practice, my literally,

00:44:16.740 my life is the only, the only drawbacks have been my own. Like I'm the one who slowed down.

00:44:23.300 I'm the one who didn't work in my inner self and I've just learned again and again. Whenever I start

00:44:27.780 working in my inner self, life gets better. When I was in the hospital, right. Um, so I go in for the

00:44:34.340 surgery, elective surgery, all that, the athletic injury is supposed to be out next morning. They're

00:44:38.660 releasing me. You're doing great. I walk out and all of a sudden something happens. I almost fall,

00:44:44.500 fall in pain. And I look as a soccer ball size bulge in my abdomen and then it bursts and blood is

00:44:49.460 spraying everywhere. Oh, right. Gosh. And it gets everyone's attention.

00:44:56.180 You know, like in a hospital, best way to get attention is spray blood on people. 0.89

00:45:00.180 Yeah. I bet. I bet. And, and let me tell you, it's a horrific memory. Your brain, your mind,

00:45:07.380 your brain is not designed to see blood spurting out. It's, it's not, it's not a normal everyday

00:45:12.580 thing. It's not something we're designed for. And then being taken the OR and I literally got to the

00:45:18.340 point where I, I had to do this. I was thinking, this is it because I could feel the life force

00:45:25.940 straightening out. I could feel, I could feel my body just going and the pain and the horror and the

00:45:30.660 shock and the surrender thinking. I remember this one moment, um, looking around at the mayhem around

00:45:37.300 me, almost in slow motion, all the people in scrubs running around, grabbing instruments and like, you

00:45:42.100 know, seeing all the, and, and thinking this is my last experience. And then thinking, what a shitty,

00:45:49.300 messy way to go. I literally thought that. Like really this?

00:45:59.140 And, and I remember this immense, there were only thoughts of love and fear. It wasn't

00:46:05.140 thoughts. It was like flashes and images of love and fear of people I love and fear and this, this

00:46:10.900 terror. And I remember the anesthesiologist came and she was, she had these, um, these really cool

00:46:17.540 glasses and dangly earrings. And she was like leaning over saying, I'm about to put an IV in. 0.99

00:46:21.700 And I just pushed it away and I grabbed her hand and I said, look, and I just, I don't know why I

00:46:25.780 have to tell her I'm scared. And she did something. She put her hand on my hand and it calmed something

00:46:31.860 down. And something we thought, okay, this is it, this is it. And I like, uh, and I remember like

00:46:38.100 falling, this was before the anesthesia. So this wasn't this. I remember falling backwards into darkness

00:46:43.460 thinking, okay, here I come, you know, and, and then waking up, you know, uh, after the, they had saved

00:46:51.700 me. So now I'm, I'd gone in for supposed to be out in a day, right. Walking around, but next thing I

00:46:58.020 know I'm in really like ICU level, you know, I'm in the hospital for in every narcotic known to mankind,

00:47:04.980 all this in a really bad place. So I made a choice then like, look, I'm not going to let this

00:47:11.620 become bad. I'm going to, while I'm here, I'm going to work on my mind. I'm going to do things.

00:47:16.900 One is everyone around me. I'm going to make sure they feel good about themselves. I'm just going to

00:47:21.140 make that a little exercise. And the other thing is I started making myself every chance I could

00:47:26.340 make myself feel blessed that I was still here, make myself feel gratitude. I consciously did that.

00:47:32.740 I'd be there writing in pain, make myself feel gratitude because, or I could make myself feel

00:47:39.140 miserable. It was my choice. And look, I think that really helped get me through it.

00:47:44.420 You know, it's thought is a, thoughts are conscious choices. We don't just don't realize it. But if we

00:47:49.460 do that, um, I think because I'd done this loving myself thing before I knew the power of my thought

00:47:55.540 on me that, and so I do walk around at times feeling blessed because of that, you know, feeling

00:48:02.260 grateful. Well, it's amazing because you will look back on that experience, just like every other

00:48:09.220 quote, bad experience of our life. And at some point you'll look back and go,

00:48:14.740 that was really beneficial. There was, there was something powerful and good about that. And you

00:48:20.740 will be grateful for that moment because the fear goes away. And, and, and that's what, I mean, to

00:48:29.940 really master the mind, that's what you have to be able to do is be grateful when the thing that you

00:48:40.660 despise is happening to you. Yeah. That's the hardest part. That's really hard. But look,

00:48:46.100 it's, I almost ask myself, tell myself what choice do I have? Because otherwise I know what the result

00:48:51.380 will be. If I just give myself to pity and feeling terrible. And let me tell you, there were moments

00:48:57.140 where I did, you know, and you feel like the, you're like, why did this happen? The witch is never,

00:49:03.060 there's never an answer to that. Right. Um, if you do that, there's no way out.

00:49:10.260 The only way out is to consciously choose who I'm going to be on the inside and make that something

00:49:15.060 that's, you know, God acts, devil reacts, you know, just choose that, choose that, choose that.

00:49:21.780 Um, and it's something that's available to all of us. And it's not a religious thing. It's not

00:49:25.780 an Eastern philosophy or Western philosophy thing. It's, it's a human thing. It's a purely a human thing.

00:49:31.460 Mm-hmm.

00:49:32.100 That we all have it. And that we all have this choice.

00:49:46.100 Tell me how you would have defined success before your company's collapse.

00:50:03.460 Oh, it was, it was, I'm embarrassed to say this. Uh, it was like, you know, um, we used to call

00:50:11.220 in Silicon Valley, F you money. You know, that's an actual term and I'm embarrassed to say, but I

00:50:16.820 remember using that term. Um, yeah, that was my, uh, that we'll have enough money just to tell

00:50:25.060 everybody else, F you, F you. But the funny thing is, if you really know who you are and what you stand

00:50:30.980 for, you can do it anyway. You do it anyway. And you know what? Better opportunities come

00:50:36.260 when you stand up and it takes all the fear away. Yeah. You have no fear when you master this.

00:50:43.060 Um, you've dealt with all the worst parts about you and it doesn't bother you anymore. And you're

00:50:48.980 in fact, probably very open about it. Um, because you didn't realize it helps other people. So they

00:50:54.340 know they're not alone and they can get past it as well. So there's nobody that, you know,

00:50:59.220 there's nothing you're afraid of that somebody's going to go, well, I know who you really are.

00:51:03.540 That's right. That's the best part. It's great. You just laugh. You just laugh.

00:51:08.660 That is the best part is freedom. Yeah. I mean, you don't, I mean, you're not, yeah, that's me.

00:51:12.740 I'm, I'm flawed. Yes. Welcome to the show. Yeah. I had a really powerful person sit in their office

00:51:19.780 and, uh, uh, I knew that they had done, you know, investigative work on me and they were trying

00:51:27.300 to get a, uh, leverage, not open book. And, um, and, uh, I'm called into the office and

00:51:38.660 he sets all this, these documents down. He says, you know, people are trying to take you down and

00:51:44.340 people are trying to find out everything they can about you. And I said, I'm sure they are.

00:51:50.020 And I knew it was him. And, uh, he took these documents, put it up. I think they're all just

00:51:56.100 file folders with empty pages. And he said, you know, you have a really good wife. 0.65

00:52:07.460 And that was my look and the hair. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I said, yes, I do. And he said,

00:52:13.300 it's always a problem when a man does something to hurt his wife. And I looked at him and I said,

00:52:24.580 I know that's why that's never happened. And he stared at me for what seemed like four hours,

00:52:31.380 but it probably was 30 seconds, just locking eyes. Right. He put that away.

00:52:37.780 I don't know if I would have had the strength to sit in a meeting. If I knew all of the bad things

00:52:49.620 that I had done and all of the things that could have been said about me, not necessarily about that,

00:52:54.340 but something else, if I hadn't already dealt with it and just open about it, the power that fear

00:53:01.460 would have had over me, you know, then you could, once you do this, you sit with anybody and they're

00:53:09.780 like, well, I've heard. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Worse actually.

00:53:18.180 The funny thing, the best thing is when you do it from a place of giving value to others,

00:53:22.740 because there's no value. And here's my dirty laundry world. There's a lot of that these days.

00:53:27.060 And I, you know, in the, in the name of vulnerability and I can't stand it, that's

00:53:30.340 just sharing your garbage with the world, throwing more garbage. No shared. How did you get better

00:53:35.540 with it? How did you use it to be better? How did it, how did you heal? You share that,

00:53:41.060 you share the process, you heal others. Just by throwing your garbage out there

00:53:46.100 actually hurts everyone else because everybody else is like, oh, well, they're like that.

00:53:51.220 That's like, why should I be any better? Instead of saying, here's what happened. Here's what it

00:53:59.620 meant. Here's how low it was. And here's how I fixed it. And you can beat it. Then that's really

00:54:06.900 powerful. Yeah. I think we have a responsibility to do that. You know, it's, it's, if we go through

00:54:13.460 something, you know, and it's what we make of it in the end, it's what we make of it. So I look back

00:54:19.140 at this child and, you know, so there was a lot of different kinds of abuse that happened. Right.

00:54:26.420 And I look back and who did, some of the things that I, I used to look, he's become, he's become

00:54:31.620 this very loyal man. And he was a loyal person. He was loyal to people. He was, he, he was a fighter.

00:54:40.260 You know, he went, he was like, I'm going to get through this. This is by, you know,

00:54:44.260 I went on to like study martial arts, join the military, do this, do that. You know,

00:54:48.500 it's because of him, I kind of became that man. It's because of him, I can write these books with

00:54:53.460 the sensitivity I can, you know, all these things that come from what we think was, was trauma and

00:55:00.420 horrible. And, but yet we look at, you know, the gifts it's, it's, I'm in awe of who the people that

00:55:09.220 goes, what we go through, um, and who we become because of it. You know, that's what makes us

00:55:14.900 special. That's what makes us, um, in my, in my, you know, if I use the word and in our own self,

00:55:20.180 great. Yeah. Great or terrible. Fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah. Fair enough. Yeah. If you choose,

00:55:27.460 yes, it is a choice. It's a choice. You know, I have very low tolerance for very,

00:55:31.220 very low tolerance for people who use their past as an excuse to hurt others.

00:55:37.540 That is, that is the worst thing you can do for yourself. Worst thing you can do for the world.

00:55:43.060 Your past is not an excuse. Use your past as a launching ground. Use your past as a,

00:55:49.380 as a gift, because it all is ultimately in the end.

00:55:52.660 The name of the book is Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It. Kamal Ravikant. I love you,

00:56:01.300 brother. I love you, Ken. Thank you.

00:56:08.660 Just a reminder, I'd love you to rate and subscribe to the podcast and pass this on to a friend so it

00:56:14.500 can be discovered by other people.

The Glenn Beck Program - February 08, 2020

Ep 66 ｜ The Miracle of Loving Yourself ｜ Kamal Ravikant ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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