The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 69 ｜ Leftists Need Black America, but Candace Owens Doesn’t Need the Left

00:00:00.000 Today, I want you to meet the vociferous, charming, and unbelievable 30-year-old woman

00:00:05.320 at the helm of a strange new counter-cultural movement that is absolutely reshaping America.

00:00:11.500 A movement so influential that it probably will shape the 2020 election, especially if she's right.

00:00:18.700 She says that Donald Trump will get 30% of the black vote. Donald Trump only got 8% of the black

00:00:25.400 vote in 2016. 15% would be a landslide, she believes, between 20 and 30. Well, 8% was before

00:00:34.200 she started speaking out and Kanye West started wearing a Make America Great Again hat and hugging

00:00:40.620 Trump in the Oval Office. Candace Owens is the one that played an enormous role in making that moment

00:00:46.040 happen. She created Blexit, as in Black Exit, the idea that black people shouldn't have to vote

00:00:51.640 against their own well-being just to appease someone else, especially not under the guise

00:00:57.060 that it's progressive. And she has taken her movement into the White House and into Congress.

00:01:02.500 She has really pissed off a lot of people, but she has invigorated many people who felt lost and

00:01:09.320 alone in the world. Today, I am positive you already know who she is, but I invite you to hear her in

00:01:15.260 this setting, recorded in our Mercury Studios. It all comes together. This is one of the episodes

00:01:21.640 after you finish, you're probably going to walk away with the conversation in your mind. Enrichment,

00:01:26.360 an argument, a rich dialogue, and maybe even a reason to believe. Today, Candace Owen.

00:01:33.120 I am so excited to talk to you. I think you are one of the bravest and most eager learners I have

00:01:58.440 seen in a long time, and you're super, super smart and gifted at communication.

00:02:09.320 But before I get into all of the things that you have done recently and the transformation in you,

00:02:17.220 I want to know who you were. You grew up, your dad was an alcoholic, you said your life wasn't easy.

00:02:25.280 Right. But was it hard? You know, that's been one of the things that's been

00:02:30.620 the craziest, the craziest element of my political journey is watching the left and the media try to

00:02:37.980 almost whitewash me. Like if, when you read about Candace Owens, it sounds like I was an

00:02:43.280 overprivileged rich girl that grew up in Connecticut. For some reason, just saying you grew up in

00:02:47.980 Connecticut makes people think that you're wealthy. There's lots of bad places in Connecticut.

00:02:51.560 Right, really bad and getting worse actually right now. It's sitting on an economic bubble thanks to

00:02:56.240 Democrat policies. But my life has been tremendously hard. It's been a very complicated life. I grew up

00:03:03.740 with my mother psychologically and physically abusive to me and my siblings. My dad was an alcoholic. He

00:03:09.920 wasn't abusive, but he, you know, financially impotent, couldn't provide for the family, and just

00:03:16.940 tremendously selfish. That's what kind of what comes with the disease of alcoholism, where him

00:03:21.680 drinking, we came first. So I've never, I've never been able to relax, meaning that I always had to

00:03:28.500 have a job. I always had to take care of myself.

00:03:31.180 From what age?

00:03:32.000 From forever. I mean, the first time I had a job, I believe I was 14 years old. I worked at a video

00:03:36.720 store. And I've never, I just never not worked. And I always say that my-

00:03:41.280 Is that a bad thing?

00:03:42.240 No, it's not. It's not a bad thing at all. But the anxiety of knowing that you don't have

00:03:47.620 parents that can take care of you, that's a little different, right? So everything that I had,

00:03:52.960 it was make or break, right? There was no fallback plan. There's a, I guess, a confidence people have

00:03:57.140 when you know that if you really mess up, your parents can help you for a period or can help you

00:04:00.880 pay rent for a bit. I never had that. And so I was in and out of my house. Me and my mom fought a lot.

00:04:06.060 But I was a girl that, I lived with my boyfriend when I was 15 years old for months because my mom

00:04:11.280 would kick me out for months at a time.

00:04:13.320 Wow.

00:04:13.800 When I was, yeah, when I was a teenager growing up. So I had a really, just a really rough upbringing.

00:04:19.640 Uncles in prison. Just what I always say, I guess, is, I guess can be true of a lot of Black

00:04:25.080 Americans, what you see growing up because our culture is so broken. I don't know, I don't know

00:04:29.580 many Black Americans who don't know relatives that were in prison, relatives that have been,

00:04:33.040 you know, arrested and trouble and just sort of had this, a lot of dysfunction in my household.

00:04:37.480 I mean, one of my earliest memories, just to give you an idea of the sort of household I grew up in

00:04:41.800 was my uncle, his girlfriend set him on fire.

00:04:46.420 Jeez.

00:04:47.240 Literally. And then this is a sort of dysfunction and he had to come live with us.

00:04:51.020 Very tiny apartment, roach infested apartment on Trusted Boulevard. Me and my three sisters share,

00:04:55.680 my two sisters shared a room. So there was three of us in there.

00:04:57.900 Um, and he had to come live with us for a bit because he had nowhere else to go and he couldn't,

00:05:02.060 you know, really walk. He couldn't really do much for a while until he got better. But this was sort

00:05:06.860 of like my upbringing. Um, I was saved, uh, because my grandparents, uh, when I was nine years old came

00:05:12.620 to our apartment and my granddad, uh, basically said to my parents, he didn't want his grandbabies

00:05:17.740 growing up in this climate. And, uh, they moved us into their more middle-class home. So all nine of us

00:05:23.740 were living, uh, in this, in this house, I was living in the attic, my parents living in the

00:05:27.340 basement. I mean, we were really trying to make it work. Um, and, uh, it, it, my grandfather just

00:05:34.540 had a different way of life, um, that I would return to after living a very liberal life. Um,

00:05:41.220 there was a difference in our grandparents, you know, especially, I don't know how old your

00:05:47.120 grandparents were, but mine did not. They were, um, they were not raised in the sixties.

00:05:55.600 Uh, and they, there was just a different work ethic, a different understanding and much more

00:06:01.260 of a be your own person. You are responsible for you. Nobody else.

00:06:07.580 No complaining. Um, my grandfather never complained. He just worked every single day of his life.

00:06:12.800 And it's interesting that you said that they weren't, they weren't, they didn't grow up in

00:06:15.640 the sixties because I had a recent conversation with my granddad, just a heart to heart around

00:06:20.000 the time that I was getting married. And I asked him kind of quite seriously, like, why is this,

00:06:23.960 like, why is this your son talking about my father? I have a good relationship with my father,

00:06:27.740 so I don't want it to paint like I don't, but just in, you know, the constant irresponsibility,

00:06:32.060 never able to do anything takes from his children, doesn't give back. And my granddad

00:06:35.520 said something. He said to me, it was the hippies, you know, it was the hippie generation that did this.

00:06:42.800 And I just thought, wow, you know, this idea of liberalism, you know, more freedom, more freedom.

00:06:47.760 We don't have to have rules or responsibilities. He was like, they brought in the smoking and the

00:06:51.940 drinking and to live and let live, um, mentality. So it's interesting that you, that you call that

00:06:57.100 out because it was the generation before that had done the world had gone to world war two.

00:07:03.420 They came home after a depression, a war, they had seen horrible things. They had gone without for so

00:07:10.860 long. They have children. All of a sudden we become relatively wealthy. Things are going well

00:07:17.540 in America and who doesn't want to give their child everything. And so they had nothing that was

00:07:23.680 bad, nothing hard. And of course that's the generation you're going to pump out.

00:07:29.420 And I talk about that. I mean, I, I really believe in my whole, in my book, I actually wrote a chapter

00:07:33.820 called over civilization. What happens when you, when you achieve peace, that's the period to watch

00:07:39.340 out for. That's where things can go really bad. Um, because when you, when you're not actually

00:07:43.260 striving to correct things that are actually bad, you'll start creating badness around you.

00:07:47.760 Right. I think that there's something about the human spirit that we want to triumph. We want to

00:07:51.880 end a war. We want to say we did something. Um, and like you said, they didn't have anything,

00:07:56.500 um, cause things were good. And that's also for my generation, millennials, things have been

00:08:01.660 great. Great. So we're creating suffering around us, pretending to see it everywhere.

00:08:06.120 So you said that, uh, you returned to the way of your grandfather, but it took a while,

00:08:13.040 took a while. It did. What tell me about that period in your life. Yeah. So I always say to people,

00:08:18.040 like I took the most liberal route to conservatism, very liberal route to conservatism. Um, and I just,

00:08:25.420 you know, I was constantly in trouble. I was always a very smart person. You know, I did well

00:08:28.960 in school. Um, but I was, I was, there wasn't, there was an upset. Um, I felt like the world owed

00:08:34.600 me something because so much of my life seemed unfair, right? The parents that I had, it was

00:08:38.760 unfair. The money that I didn't have, that was unfair. I had an education system that was telling

00:08:43.080 me it was because the world is fundamentally unfair. Um, and the system of, you know, capitalism in

00:08:47.500 America and, and white Republicans is making it unfair. Um, and I just, I just had a chip on my

00:08:52.380 shoulder, uh, through much of my life. And, you know, I found liberalism as to be a home for that

00:08:57.200 because, uh, liberalism, liberal perspective sort of welcomes the idea that, uh, we shouldn't have

00:09:02.440 to be responsible because the world is just corrupt and backwards. So why should we have to be decent

00:09:07.560 people? It is sort of allows you to, um, absolve all responsibility, all self-responsibility. Um,

00:09:13.880 and I wasn't like, you know, I, I, I was, you know, partying, but not, not more than anybody else

00:09:17.800 was. I, I, I just, um, I just, I was, I was a bad person. I don't, I don't know how to say it. I just

00:09:23.240 was a really bad person, a person that I'm not proud of. Um, and, uh, I didn't treat people well.

00:09:29.480 I wasn't true to my word. Um, and I, I was mean and, and that meanness came from an anger, a deep

00:09:36.700 seated anger. Um, and then, uh, what happened that sort of changed that around was first off,

00:09:42.280 I got smack with reality, uh, when I left college, uh, without a degree and, uh, because my student

00:09:48.440 loans got declined going into my senior year, but I had over a hundred thousand dollars in student

00:09:52.700 loan debt. Oh my. And, uh, we didn't have Bernie saying he was going to wave a magic wand and get

00:09:57.940 rid of it. Uh, so I hit the ground running and my instinct to work was always there. My grandfather

00:10:04.200 just raised us to, we just always worked as an Owens quality as my granddad says. Um, and I hit the

00:10:10.780 ground running in New York city and, uh, and in New York city, a hundred grand brutal sleeping on

00:10:16.560 friends' couches. I mean, I, I was, you know, not doing well, um, uh, babysitting here. And then I

00:10:22.360 had sort of a big break, um, in that I just started interviewing for jobs as an assistant at private

00:10:28.280 equity firms. Cause I heard that you could make, you know, start out making 50 K, you know, if you

00:10:32.520 just weren't assistant, I was like, I can do this. I know I don't have a degree. And I got hired on the

00:10:36.860 spot at this firm. And, uh, it really changed things for me because I just saw how much, uh,

00:10:42.760 my employers had. And there was just an interest for me always in terms of wanting to make money,

00:10:48.100 wanting to have, um, and, uh, not, you know, just wanting to figure out how I could be wealthy,

00:10:53.160 how I could, how I could pay off my student loans, how I could have something. And I just worked my

00:10:57.080 butt off. Um, and then, uh, the big thing that happened was my grandmother died. Um, and, uh,

00:11:03.420 it completely changed me cause she was really the only maternal figure that I had. Um, my,

00:11:08.560 my, my grandmother, my grandmother, deeply, deeply faithful. And the last thing she said to me,

00:11:13.080 we were not expecting her to die. She was hospitalized for what was supposed to be 48 hours.

00:11:17.240 Uh, she just said, you know, I worry about you. Um, I worry about you in New York city and,

00:11:21.480 you know, I worry about the person that you're becoming. Uh, and I said to her, you know, cause I

00:11:26.400 was being flashy. I have this expensive bag and I thought she would think that it was all cool. And she

00:11:31.020 just thought none of it was cool. Um, and I think our grandparents were not that not into it. She

00:11:36.540 wasn't into my Stella McCartney bag. Um, and it was her last word she ever spoke to me and then she

00:11:42.300 died. Uh, and it, it took a lot out of me. I, I, I mean, I, I still mourn my grandmother's death.

00:11:47.540 Uh, it was just, it, it rocked my family because she was, she, she was the rock. Yeah. Um, and then I

00:11:55.020 just, I wanted to make her proud, you know? Um, yeah. So I, uh, I just, yeah, I really do.

00:12:05.260 I mean, grandparents have been just incredible people. Um, so I just sort of, uh, dedicated

00:12:10.760 myself to just being a better person, whatever I thought that was, what would, what would make my

00:12:14.960 grandparents proud? What makes my granddad proud? Um, and I just, I, I, I just, I changed and I

00:12:21.500 started really getting serious about, um, you know, not going out as much, uh, not partying,

00:12:27.100 uh, really dedicating myself to getting myself out of, out of debt. Um, and understanding the

00:12:32.060 people that they were in con in, in context of politics was they were, they were deeply

00:12:36.020 conservative. Um, they, and they wouldn't say that my grandmother didn't care about politics,

00:12:40.040 but they were deeply conservative. So were they Republicans or conservative? A political,

00:12:45.120 but they were conservative. Yeah. Yeah. A political. They were not Democrats or Republicans.

00:12:49.660 Aren't most blacks conservative, conservative, right? Right. They just don't vote. We just

00:12:54.640 don't know it. No one turns the lights on and says everything about, about the way you were

00:13:00.420 raised is actually conservative. How do you, how do you miss that though? I mean, it's right.

00:13:05.380 And it's so clear, right? Yeah. You know, it's, it's funny that you asked that because I've

00:13:10.060 thought deeply about this obviously. And it's so what the left has done. You have to give them

00:13:14.700 credit for just how brilliant they have been. They've executed, executed a perfect,

00:13:19.400 a royal flush on black America. Um, and what they did was, uh, we started in the sixties,

00:13:24.620 obviously with Lyndon Baines Johnson, the great society act, uh, the breakdown of the family,

00:13:28.460 uh, marrying black America to the government. Don't marry your baby daddy, marry the government.

00:13:32.440 We're going to give you more money. Don't, you know, if there's no man in the household,

00:13:35.320 um, everything starts there. Uh, when you, when you remove the bedrock of the family,

00:13:40.320 uh, there, there's still an instinct to pursue paternity and maternity elsewhere. So where,

00:13:46.460 where did the kids get that maternity and paternity? Uh, the streets, you, you, the kids

00:13:50.820 race to the streets, they, they culture. Why do you think the left has invested so much time in

00:13:55.580 having a stranglehold on culture? Uh, and this is why culture was so important. And this is what

00:13:59.500 conservatives, Republicans missed, right? Uh, how important culture is, uh, Andrew Breitbart knew,

00:14:05.780 right? He said politics, famously politics is downstream from culture. And he, uh, so accurate

00:14:11.400 in saying that. And so black America invested heavily in culture because they were no longer

00:14:16.840 sitting around the dinner table and learning from mom and dad. Uh, they were being raised by Jay-Z,

00:14:21.320 by Beyonce, uh, by whatever rapper they idolize, whatever, uh, um, a hip hop artist they, they

00:14:27.600 idolize was, was now raising them. And the left and the Democrats put all of their eggs in that basket.

00:14:33.080 And this is why Hillary Clinton had Beyonce and Jay-Z, uh, dancing with her a few nights before the,

00:14:38.540 before election night. Uh, even though I'm sure she cannot name even one Jay-Z song or even one

00:14:45.200 Beyonce album, one might even be called Beyonce. She wouldn't be able to do it. All right. She

00:14:50.120 wouldn't be able to do it. Um, but they, they understood that. And, uh, and then the, the second

00:14:55.220 element was, is, is to make sure who else raises the kids. If it's not the, the, um, hip hop artists,

00:15:00.060 you're being raised in school. Left has a stranglehold on the education system. Uh, uh, Jesse Jackson

00:15:06.600 showing up at Stanford. Hey, Oh, Hey, Oh, Western civ has got to go. Now Western civilization isn't

00:15:12.160 taught. Right. So it was perfect. It was, uh, they, they were able to brainwash, um, an entire

00:15:19.140 generation, generations, um, of black children by, by those two, uh, those two pathways, education

00:15:25.800 and culture. I knew you hated LBJ. And I do too. There are a few presidents that stick out. Jackson,

00:15:36.700 uh, the second Johnson, the first Johnson is pretty bad too. Uh, uh, and Woodrow Wilson, but LBJ,

00:15:44.960 I have a theory on, and I want to pass it by you and see what, see what you think. How did the guy

00:15:52.380 who stopped the civil rights act in 1958 or 59, he stopped it? He was the one who blocked

00:16:00.720 it in the Senate. He was so unbelievably racist. Um, he hated black people. How did that guy

00:16:12.700 bring all of this to the table and say, we're going to heal. We're going to free people.

00:16:18.880 We're going to heal people. I think that he and those who wrote that knew exactly what

00:16:27.220 they were doing. Glenn, of course. And like I say, there's no history of that. There's

00:16:31.960 no record. There's rewritten history. And if you ask the average black person, when I got

00:16:36.240 out of high school, if you had asked me, Candace, who was the greatest president of all time,

00:16:39.740 I would have said Lyndon Baines Johnson. It is taught if you are a black American that Lyndon

00:16:44.380 Baines Johnson. Right. Saved you. But I'm telling you, there is no record. I've never

00:16:50.220 seen anybody. The record is what you learn in school. That is the way. Of course, there's

00:16:53.940 a record, Glenn. I learned the record. What are you talking about? Right. You mean your

00:16:57.200 research you do outside of the education system? That's right. You think that matters? Right.

00:17:01.000 They have 18 years. Uh, well, I got you not, not if, if your children go to preschool, they

00:17:05.480 have 15 years to pollute your children's minds, you know, uh, with whatever they want. 15

00:17:09.700 years. Imagine sending your kids to indoctrination camps for 15 years. That's what we do. That's

00:17:13.880 the challenge. We have to be able to reverse 15 years of indoctrination, right? This is,

00:17:20.360 this is a left is brilliant. Lyndon Baines Johnson was brilliant, right? You cannot discount

00:17:23.820 the fact that they have been absolutely brilliant. When I study LBJ and I just go, how is it possible,

00:17:29.640 Candace, that you would have answered the question that he was the greatest president ever for black

00:17:33.800 America. He's one of the worst. He was an avowed racist. Oh, he was openly racist. I mean,

00:17:39.480 and I talk about, I really talk about this in my book on the things that he would say. He, he had

00:17:43.200 a per a black person we wouldn't even call, uh, by, by their first name because it didn't matter.

00:17:48.160 Right. Uh, I I'll have those niggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years. Right. There is

00:17:54.060 a clear record that the man was an avowed record, wasn't avowed racist, but here's the thing, Glenn,

00:17:57.900 he was right. Right. He did it. He, he did it. He married black America to the Democrat party.

00:18:03.460 Right. And for that it's evil, but it's brilliant. Right. And for that, um, you, you, you have to

00:18:11.000 almost respect the devious nature of a Democrat party. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm like that with Woodrow

00:18:18.000 Wilson, who is also, he's one of the worst. He's the guy who really kind of set this train on the

00:18:23.500 track and a horrible racist and everything else. And you do have to look at it and say,

00:18:29.160 you know, that's brilliant. It's absolutely evil, but it is brilliant. And they've done

00:18:35.260 it. There's, I mean, there's some people like that throughout, throughout human history where

00:18:38.240 the most evil people in the entire world, the most evil dictators, when you, when you,

00:18:42.340 when you study them, you also have to understand they were brilliant. Right. Uh, they were,

00:18:45.640 they were horrible. They were horrible, but they were brilliant that they were, they were able

00:18:49.460 to, to execute, um, uh, so much evil on so many people before people caught on. And that's

00:18:54.740 how it always works. So much evil is being executed right now by the Democrat party.

00:18:59.160 Um, uh, uh, upon black America and so much evil has been executed since the 1960s and before

00:19:04.920 that too, you know, really when we're talking about welfarism, it really starts with the

00:19:08.540 new deal and FDR, right? That was sort of the first time you started seeing black America

00:19:11.980 go, Oh, Oh, maybe the Democrats have our best interests at heart. Um, and LVJ just took it

00:19:17.420 to, to a whole different level. Um, but there, I, I, I almost appreciate, um, how cunning

00:19:24.280 and devious he was. Uh, and he got me too. I mean, I believed it. I was celebrating him

00:19:29.180 just a, just a few years ago.

00:19:31.920 So what, just tell me what that day was like when you, cause I know there were, there were

00:19:36.640 things that I read, things that I discovered that I went, Oh my gosh. And opened a door

00:19:44.100 that I knew when I'd walk across that threshold. If I accept this change on LBJ, I'm going to

00:19:53.260 walk through a door and there's no going back. Tell me about that day when you found that

00:19:59.700 out about him. Was that a big day for you?

00:20:01.820 Oh, it's all been a big day. So here's what I say, cause I do want to point to what you

00:20:05.060 just said, cause it's so important. My job with black America isn't to wake them up to

00:20:09.220 every little fact. My job is to just hit the first domino chip. Cause that's all that had

00:20:13.020 happened with me. Just takes one domino chip and then the whole board comes down. Right.

00:20:17.220 It all, it all, it all lays flat and you go, well then could that have been wrong? Could

00:20:21.260 that have been, that's literally what happened to me. It was just one thing that didn't add

00:20:27.960 up. And that first thing was the Trump thing being a racist and add up. Right. And then,

00:20:31.860 so I watched him do the, what do you have to lose thing? And then I watched what the media

00:20:34.700 did. And I said, has the media, if the media could do this to Trump, who else has the media

00:20:39.740 done this to? Is it possible? And then I suddenly started looking at conservative articles, looking

00:20:45.280 at conservative speakers, people that I had dismissed, right. In the same way that so many

00:20:49.120 people were dismissing Trump that I had dismissed as racist. And I went back and I found all

00:20:53.320 of those uncle Toms and coons that I knew that I needed to stay away from. And I listened to

00:20:58.160 them in their entirety. And I didn't just listen to the media's interpretations of them. And I

00:21:02.180 was floored. Right. And then it brought me to, to, to, to my real history, to real black

00:21:06.600 history and, and, and reading about someone like Lyndon Baines Johnson and, and really sort

00:21:13.140 of that being the starting point for where we are today. It's, it's overwhelming. It's

00:21:18.780 overwhelming. It's, it's you feel a lot, you feel, you feel angry for sure. But I think

00:21:25.220 the biggest thing that I walked away with was a sense of passion. It wasn't enough to just

00:21:30.680 know it, right. I needed to spread it. And it was like, this is the gospel. I've got to

00:21:35.500 let every single black American know that, uh, uh, your whole life can change if you just

00:21:39.380 wake up to the truth. And there have been people, uh, the whole time that I've been trying to

00:21:43.600 tell us, and we have just routinely dismissed them.

00:21:47.280 And tell me about as this change, well, first give me your darkest day. Do you have a dark,

00:21:53.600 darkest day where you were like, or was it your grandmother's death or what was the day

00:21:57.880 that you, that you were the quintessential person you don't like?

00:22:07.720 Um, you know, I've never done anything that like, I was never like, um, good. So yeah,

00:22:12.680 there's no evil, like, Oh my gosh, chapter, I was just doing evil to people or anything like

00:22:16.180 that. I just, when I said it and like who I was, I was just, I was pretending. Right. Okay.

00:22:21.100 And I think that that kind of goes hand in hand with being a leftist. Like you're pretending

00:22:24.740 that you feel woke and feminist and because you don't have a man doing everything, but you're

00:22:28.700 not actually happy sort of, you know, that was sort of what I was doing. Yeah. Living a lie,

00:22:33.260 living a lie. So tell me the day, the first day where you saw it in your grandfather's eyes that

00:22:41.420 he was not just proud of you because you've always been great, but he's proud of you because

00:22:48.520 you've turned a corner and you're turning into an amazing woman.

00:22:53.320 Um, so I will say this, the thing that, you know, why I get so emotional with my grandparents

00:22:58.360 is because they have been, I mean, unconditional love and they're deeply, deeply religious. And I

00:23:03.920 mean, every phase of my life, they just, they're just nothing but love. There's never a time where

00:23:08.440 you can't come and they just don't love you. Um, but when did I, I make my, my grandparents proud?

00:23:13.440 It's unfortunate that, you know, my grandmother's not alive for this, but, um, you know, my grandfather,

00:23:17.700 it was something that just deeply, you know, used to always really upset my grandfather. Uh,

00:23:21.840 he just has this thing about women drinking. He does, he's never drank his entire life. My

00:23:25.140 grandmother never drank and they never, you know, doing that, but he just, it's just something

00:23:27.880 that just really bothered him. Um, and, uh, you know, I, I don't drink alcohol. Uh, I did for

00:23:33.600 the six months ending up to my wedding, but I, I, but jumping into, cause you just can't say no.

00:23:38.040 I'm just constantly giving you bottles of champagne. I didn't drink on my wedding day though,

00:23:42.020 but, um, I just sort of decided when I was jumping into this political thing that I just didn't want to

00:23:46.180 drink alcohol. I really wanted to be present, like always present. Um, and I remember sort of

00:23:52.020 talking to my grandfather and I get on the phone with him and ask him more questions about his

00:23:55.400 childhood, his upbringing, what he lived through, what he saw. And, um, there was, you could just

00:24:00.420 sense that, um, the, just based on the questions I was asking, uh, that he knew that I was there,

00:24:07.060 right. That I was like, there it is there. Finally, I have, um, a, a true, a true legacy. Um,

00:24:14.560 and, uh, it's been just a beautiful thing to really be able to appreciate everything that my

00:24:21.420 grandfather knows, his wisdom, everything he lived through. I mean, even his wisdom on, when I talk

00:24:26.100 about how the left attacks me and I say, Oh, you know, black people that say, I mean, I'll go talk

00:24:30.300 and he says, you know, uh, baby there's, there's always been those kinds of black people that would

00:24:34.700 say, Oh, we shouldn't be working with the white people. He was like, I never, you know, I never listened

00:24:38.480 to them. I just gone about my business. You know, that wisdom of like, that's always going to be

00:24:42.660 there. Kenneth, except that, except that there's always going to be people that reject greatness

00:24:47.500 because they don't have it in them. Um, so it's been, it's been, uh, just every, every moment of

00:24:53.660 this has been beautiful. You know, he came to my, my last, uh, political event, my last Blexit, uh,

00:24:59.160 one of my speeches and then one of my Blexit rallies. And it just, it was, it was just so special

00:25:03.100 to have him there. So let's go now into that time period of your life. And, um, we've talked about

00:25:12.960 you're listening to the media and they're throwing Donald Trump, you know, in as a racist, every step

00:25:19.640 of the way, he's wildly popular with the black community. His, I mean, he was a TV, uh, star and,

00:25:28.780 um, you know, part of pop culture and especially in the black community. Right. That's right. And

00:25:36.640 you're not buying into any of that, any of the, he's a racist. Right. I just, it just didn't sound

00:25:42.440 right. I was just saying, you know, if he was really this horrible person, why are we just finding

00:25:46.720 out now? I mean, it was almost, it was, it was patronizing. It was just, it's, it's felt to me what

00:25:53.720 the media was trying to do is like, which, what adults do to their children. Don't, if you don't

00:25:58.740 clean your room, Santa's not going to come, you know, it's just, if you vote for Trump, all these

00:26:03.240 horrible things are going to happen, but we were totally fine celebrating him for decades when he

00:26:07.100 wasn't running for president. It was so clear that that was about power. Um, this happened after you

00:26:12.180 had discovered the LBJ fallacy. This is for, is this the first? Yeah. Trump was first. You know,

00:26:18.480 I was, it started with questioning my relationship with the media. That was, that was the first domino

00:26:22.240 chip on the board for me. I think, I think that's the biggest thing that Donald Trump has done.

00:26:27.780 Exposed the media. By just saying, look at over there, they're frauds. And then they do it. Then

00:26:35.880 they, you know, look at there, they're lying. And then they lie. And you're like, okay, guys,

00:26:41.760 if you want to help yourself, you should just stop what you're doing. Right. And they can't,

00:26:46.280 they can't help themselves. They can't help themselves. It's chronic. Right. I mean, they're there.

00:26:49.840 It's a chronic obsession. They can't. And I always say this, what's so crazy. I genuinely

00:26:54.600 think Trump would have lost if they just left him alone. I think so too. I think so too. There

00:26:59.000 was enough conservatives that were on the end, you know, Democrats that were like, no way that

00:27:04.120 if they had just chilled a little bit, not tried to paint him as this horrible monster and calling

00:27:08.940 him a Nazi and all of these things, he would have lost. You might've even gotten him on impeachment.

00:27:13.640 Um, even though I don't, you know, I think they were wrong about it, but you might've gotten

00:27:18.560 him on impeachment. If you hadn't have every 10 minutes said, here's something that's going

00:27:23.680 to be the last straw. I said that again, overplaying their hand. Like it's like every time it was

00:27:28.840 like if they hadn't done everything prior to that, if they hadn't accused him of, uh, I'm

00:27:33.900 calling her not Christine Blasey for who's the, uh, Stormy Daniels. Right. Uh, they had the

00:27:37.940 Stormy Daniels thing, the Russian collusion. It was just too much. All of it, all of it.

00:27:41.480 And actually I wasn't even interested by it. I mean, people, like I said, are getting

00:27:44.540 fatigued. It's just like, it's the boy who cried wolf. I was interested in the impeachment

00:27:48.200 hearings. I was like, obviously nothing's going to happen. A couple of weeks ago, Chuck

00:27:50.780 Schumer came out and said, we have to have an investigation with what's going on between

00:27:55.340 him and William Barr. And you're like, and you're like, really? You really think that's

00:28:02.280 wise? And it's actually funny because I had lunch with the president about, uh, four weeks

00:28:08.340 ago now, I think it was about four weeks ago at the white house. Um, and, uh, we were

00:28:12.320 just sitting with me and my husband and, uh, he's got Fox news on and he says he, he is

00:28:16.920 the, literally it was the day they announced that, that they did the vote and he was, and

00:28:20.220 he was impeached. They were sending it to the articles to sign it. And he's like, can you

00:28:23.160 believe this? Can you believe this? You know, they're preaching, they're impeaching me for

00:28:25.640 a perfect phone call. And he said exactly what he said for a perfect phone call. Um, he said,

00:28:31.620 what do you think about this? And I said, to be honest, I was like, I'm, I find it to

00:28:34.840 be incredibly boring. I was like, it's just like, I was like, nobody cares. He's like,

00:28:38.280 you know, because I'm like, this is obviously not going to go anywhere. It's going to work

00:28:41.340 in your favor, you know, because people are just fatigued. If it was the first thing they

00:28:45.380 did, it would have been big, but I mean, we're like post, uh, Michael, what's his name?

00:28:50.660 Michael Wolf, Michael Wolf book. There's just too much. Everything. Yeah. I want to turn

00:28:55.480 the TV off now. You know, if everything, you know, I've said for a long time, you know, if

00:29:00.880 you tell me that McDonald's food is bad. Okay. Except the French fries are the best French

00:29:08.540 fries out there. And if they say, and if the person says no, even their French fries, you

00:29:13.040 have no credibility. You know, if you can't find the McDonald's French fries in the Trump

00:29:18.380 administration, you have no credibility. I love this analogy. If you could not find the

00:29:23.080 McDonald's French fries. That's so true. I'm like, can say one thing nice about him. And

00:29:27.480 you remember Hillary couldn't do it in one of their things. He actually paid her a good

00:29:30.960 compliment. I forgot what he said about her. And that was a great, that was a great moment

00:29:34.220 in the debates where they, he said, okay, why don't you both say something nice about

00:29:37.400 each other? And I think Trump said something about, maybe it wasn't about her children,

00:29:42.040 but he said something nice about her and it was, it was a great compliment and she couldn't

00:29:44.660 do it. Uh, because, and the left can't do it. They're incapable of acknowledging if this

00:29:48.500 man has done anything right in his entire life. Um, he's done stuff that I disagree

00:29:53.480 with that they should love. Right. They've done, he's done stuff for unions that they

00:29:58.620 would never have ever gotten past. Right. But no, no, he's evil. He's no good. Orange

00:30:06.300 man bad. Yeah. It just doesn't make any sense for the average person. It's, it's, it's so

00:30:10.720 true. Okay. So, um, I have to ask you this question cause you just talked about having

00:30:15.720 lunch with Donald Trump. You, you were admittedly just a nobody, a nobody. Now you're sitting

00:30:26.040 having lunch. Oh yeah. About four weeks ago. I think it was about four weeks ago. I was

00:30:30.380 having lunch with the president. What do you have at any point? Like what the hell happened?

00:30:36.740 Yeah, I really do. I mean, I give it all to God. It's the only way. Um, and, and you'll,

00:30:42.280 you'll, you'll understand this first off being in politics, you're one scandal away from your

00:30:46.800 whole career being over. Um, and they want me dead. I mean, there is, there is no person

00:30:51.740 that they hate more, uh, than me. Um, because I, I represent an existential threat to them.

00:30:58.000 Um, and so, uh, you know, for me, those, everything to me is just God, thank God. Um, and thanking

00:31:05.020 the people, the patriots, um, around America who believed in me, um, from the beginning, I was

00:31:09.580 just a girl who a few years ago uploaded a video on YouTube, um, you know, and just said,

00:31:14.460 I'm going to try to give black America a different perspective and didn't know where it was going

00:31:17.660 to go. Um, by my third video, 26 million views worldwide, I'm getting the call from Fox news.

00:31:23.280 Um, it has been a rocket ship. Um, and there was nothing behind me. There was no, you know,

00:31:28.380 business behind, there was nothing. It was just me, uh, swimming, treading water rather,

00:31:32.440 not swimming, treading water, um, and trying to figure out what it all means, but also taking the

00:31:36.540 time to know, um, that, uh, you know, it could all be over tomorrow. And so the one thing that

00:31:42.120 I promised myself was first off to, to always remain humble. I've seen, there's a lot of ego

00:31:46.620 in politics. There are a lot of people that are in this to be a celebrity. I've seen a lot of

00:31:51.300 nastiness. Um, and, uh, uh, but to also the one thing that I can control is, is to do the work.

00:31:58.440 And that's what you and I were talking about. It's one thing to have the feeling, which is how I

00:32:02.100 started. I had a feeling something was wrong and I was making videos, uh, just kind of being like,

00:32:06.240 all right, guys, everyone can't be racist. Uh, but I wanted to then convert that feeling into a

00:32:10.620 fact. Um, I wanted, I wanted to be taken seriously. Um, I wanted to go back and do the

00:32:15.920 work and, and, and, and read what's out there from, you know, from the great black conservatives

00:32:20.400 that have done so much work and have been largely disregarded and dismissed by our community. Um,

00:32:25.880 I wanted to make my grandparents proud. Um, I, and that's an everyday task, right? There's no,

00:32:30.760 there is never going to be a day where I feel like I know enough, uh, cause it's impossible.

00:32:34.800 There's the, you just told me something that I never knew before we started this podcast

00:32:38.560 and now I'm like, Oh, I really didn't know that. I want to go. I really got to get to

00:32:42.740 the bottom of that now. I love that feeling though. I mean, I always want to be the dumbest

00:32:46.040 person in the room. Yes. I get everyone. You know, you're smarter than me because you've

00:32:50.080 been around longer than me. You've been researching this. You've been on the side of truth longer

00:32:52.940 than me. Um, so, but, but, but you know, stuff that I don't know. I, I know stuff you don't

00:33:00.720 know. That's, that's the problem. I think with progressivism is, um, when you are told

00:33:07.720 not to talk to somebody, um, or you take this, this attitude that I'm just smart and they're

00:33:15.500 stupid, there's no reason to listen to them. But if you actually listen, you may still disagree,

00:33:23.940 but you're going to learn a lot because you're going to see a perspective. If they're honest,

00:33:30.980 you'll see a perspective that is actually well thought out, at least through their life

00:33:37.540 experiences. And you'll be like, Oh my gosh. But narcissists can't do that. And the left consists

00:33:43.460 of a ton of narcissists. And I've done that time and time again, there is no leftist program or

00:33:47.620 leftist person that I wouldn't speak to. Um, because I, I, I feel that I'm on the side of truth.

00:33:52.100 Right. And if I'm not, I want to know because I'm, I, I, I'm humble enough to say I'm wrong.

00:33:57.700 And I want to pivot that and get smarter at that. They stay in their bubbles because they're,

00:34:01.720 they're arrogant and they're narcissists. And this is why Hollywood is a perfect breeding

00:34:04.900 ground for leftism because a lot of them are narcissists as it is. Um, it's a culture of

00:34:08.820 narcissism. Um, and, uh, and so it becomes very easy for them to preach, uh, and to say we're all

00:34:14.460 right. And to stay in their comfortable spaces. Um, but they, they never come over to the other

00:34:18.120 side. If you were so certain, right. So certain that what you knew was

00:34:21.880 gospel and it was right. Why not? Why wouldn't you want to go into every single room to say

00:34:26.480 it? Why doesn't Al Sharpton want to get into a room with Larry Elder? He's been trying to

00:34:30.280 debate Larry, Larry has been trying to be Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson for decades. They

00:34:34.160 won't do it because they know they're lying. Right. They know that Larry Elder is telling

00:34:37.740 the truth. Um, and the mask slides off when they get into the room with people, um, that

00:34:42.700 are willing to call them out and, and know the truth.

00:34:51.660 Let me take you to another day that had to be really surreal. Where were you when?

00:34:58.740 JFK got shot.

00:35:00.820 When, when Kanye tweeted your name?

00:35:04.100 Yeah. Um, so that story is way crazier than people even realize. So I had signed, uh, to work

00:35:10.400 with Turning Point USA. Um, and when Charlie Kirk and I got together, uh, Charlie was just

00:35:16.720 the most, he didn't know anything about culture and Charlie wouldn't have known culture if

00:35:20.160 it walked up and punched him in the face and said, Hey, I'm culture. I mean, it was bad.

00:35:23.220 He didn't know the difference between Jay-Z and Kanye. And we're sitting in a car ride,

00:35:26.480 you know, cause we were traveling together five days a week and, and he was really drilling

00:35:29.560 me on debating, you know, what to expect, you know, making sure that my debates to skills

00:35:34.080 were, were strong, um, and training me a lot in, in many ways. And, uh, a, I said to him,

00:35:39.580 Charlie, like, you know, you got to know this stuff. Culture's, culture's important. And I said

00:35:43.360 to him, you need to know who Kanye West is. Before Kanye ever tweeted me, it was in December

00:35:46.860 and Charlie will tell you the story the exact same way. And I started making him listen to

00:35:50.280 Kanye's music. And I said, he's going to be, if there's any person in Hollywood that will come

00:35:54.960 out and who I believe is conservative, it's Kanye. Cause I followed his career my entire life.

00:35:58.120 He was the only person that I ever considered myself to be a fan of, um, because of his general

00:36:02.760 perspective, he got me through tough times as a kid, his music. Um, because Kanye was a lot,

00:36:07.720 he talked a lot about in his music, having the courage, um, to not be liked, right? Kanye is a

00:36:15.560 public enemy. Number one. I mean, they've tried to kill him. You can't cancel Kanye cause Kanye

00:36:19.320 has been canceled 82,000 times and he's still here. Right. And that's been his career arc.

00:36:23.500 And, uh, and so I was listening to a lot of Kanye West music to get myself into politics and I was

00:36:28.320 running and Charlie started running to him every single day. Three months later,

00:36:32.600 we're both listening to all Kanye music. And, um, I was telling this to Nigel Farage's assistant

00:36:38.020 of all people that I loved Kanye West. Two days later, Nigel Farage's assistant sends me a screenshot

00:36:43.000 of Kanye West, um, tweet. I love the way Candace Owens thinks. And I thought it was a joke because I

00:36:49.760 was like, okay, I don't know. Maybe this is like British humor. Like I don't know. I was like,

00:36:53.520 this is weird. Like I was like, I don't really understand why he, why he, like I don't understand

00:36:57.760 why he photoshopped. Okay. You can get it. Like I like Kanye. And then I went, is there any chance

00:37:02.560 this is real? And I went to Kanye's Twitter feed and I scrolled down and I saw it and I can't even

00:37:06.600 describe to you the feeling that I felt there. That had to be amazing. It was just like, you know,

00:37:11.520 when you feel like the universe is conspiring to assist you one of those moments. Uh, cause I just

00:37:15.880 knew he, I knew he was conservative. I knew it. Um, and, uh, and, uh, I, I was just, I think I cried.

00:37:21.700 I was just so like shocked. And, um, I tweeted back at him like, you know, uh, please can we meet?

00:37:27.680 And we did, you know, I flew out to Los Angeles, met with him, met with his wife. We went to Uganda

00:37:32.540 together. Um, and it was, he was exactly what I was expecting in the same way that Trump is exactly

00:37:39.260 who you think he is. Kanye West is exactly who you think he is. He's not, there's not a behind closed

00:37:43.720 door Trump and there's not a behind closed door Kanye West. And I, you know why I cried? I know why I

00:37:49.840 cried because that door that people were understanding Charlie, not understanding why

00:37:54.540 he needed to understand culture, culture, not understanding why I need to understand politics.

00:37:58.840 Kanye punched a, punched a hole in that culture and politics. It was able to, to flow freely the

00:38:04.380 energy and it needed to flow freely if there was going to be change. And suddenly people that had

00:38:08.260 never looked up Candace Owens were looking up Candace Owens. Right. Um, and, uh, and people who had

00:38:13.980 never really listened to Kanye listening to Kanye, listening to Kanye, the contribution that Kanye West made

00:38:19.340 to politics cannot be understated. And it got me so, uh, angry, the arrogance of some conservatives

00:38:26.060 who went out and said, ignore him. He's crazy. Uh, don't listen to him. And I said, this, this

00:38:31.080 man just delivered you, uh, a gift. Yeah. Here's the thing with, I mean, I never said anything

00:38:41.260 about you for probably a year, even during the Kanye stuff at the beginning of it, never said

00:38:48.980 anything about you because I don't, I didn't know you and you were young into it and you can dip your

00:38:56.760 feet into it. And then you could go off a path where all of a sudden you're like, Oh, well, you're a

00:39:02.380 fascist. And so you just never know when somebody is really young, where they're going to grow is who

00:39:10.740 their influences are. Um, and the same thing with Kanye, I talked about, I think this is great,

00:39:17.580 but he might be crazy. He might be doing this for a publicity stunt, but he also might be real.

00:39:25.380 Um, and it turns out it was real and that impact is, is fantastic, but we shouldn't put our,

00:39:36.060 nobody should become a conservative because Kanye is a conservative. Of course not. You know what I

00:39:40.700 mean? Of course not. But the door that he opened that he said, and it was amazing because you watched

00:39:48.940 him and it really even wasn't about any kind of principle other than who the hell are you to tell

00:39:57.040 me what I can be, can be, that was it. And this is what Republicans got so wrong. The ones that

00:40:02.760 criticized him, they were trying to pretend like Kanye came in and said, I'm a Republican. People

00:40:08.340 need to listen to it. He didn't know. He just said, I can love whoever I want to love. I can be who I

00:40:13.120 want to be. You can't tell me how I have a thing because the color of my skin. What are you disagreeing

00:40:16.740 with? Is, is Kanye crazy? Absolutely. I can, I can confirm Kanye West is crazy. There is,

00:40:22.720 you have to be crazy to put your entire career and your entire family on the line to be who you are.

00:40:28.460 Right. You have to be crazy to be where he was and where he is in life in Piranha Maga hat. You have

00:40:32.980 to be out of your fricking mind. Right. Kanye's crazy is his genius, right? His unwillingness throughout

00:40:39.620 his entire career for people that didn't follow him to, to never buckle to the mob. It didn't start

00:40:44.320 with politics. Right. It started way before that. Kanye West, when he fell in love with someone,

00:40:48.460 it was a stripper, stripper named Amber Rose. Right. Everyone told him he was not allowed to

00:40:52.680 date Amber Rose. It was inappropriate. You know, he loved her. That was it. He, and then he turned

00:40:56.200 her into a fashion icon and now she's, you know, uh, she, she's got a career herself. Right. Kanye

00:41:01.260 West was told he wasn't allowed to be a rapper. First, he was a producer. He used to produce for Jay-Z.

00:41:05.040 Right. And he said, I'm not only just going to be a rapper, I'm going to win a Grammy.

00:41:07.480 And then when he won the Grammy, he wore a sign on, uh, he wore a sign that said, told you so.

00:41:12.300 Right. Kanye West was told, uh, he wasn't allowed to, to like Kim Kardashian. Right. Because she had

00:41:17.660 a porn tape, all of this stuff, and he needed to marry a black woman. Kanye married her. Right.

00:41:21.960 Kanye story, his whole, his entire story is one of saying, I'm, this is how I feel. And because you

00:41:27.400 tell me I can't feel this doesn't mean that I'm not going to feel it or do it. Which is exactly

00:41:31.460 why someone like Kanye West would relate to someone like Donald Trump. Right. That's what he loved

00:41:38.400 about him. Right. I've always, I've always thought if the Democrats were smart, they would

00:41:44.200 say, you know, it'll miss, make us really angry. If you start pushing all kinds of welfare onto,

00:41:52.160 we are walking. Right. You know what I mean? You could tell him not to do something. Right.

00:41:57.980 And it makes him want to do it. Right. More. And it's not, it's not necessarily also because

00:42:02.240 that, that spirit, um, that is one thing that I think when he talked about Kanye called

00:42:06.840 it drag energy, but this is a similarity between, uh, Trump and Kanye and me. Cause we're very

00:42:11.200 different people. All three of us, our style, our approach were very different, but that

00:42:15.020 energy, right. And it's not contrarian. It's not contrarian. I don't just do because someone

00:42:19.100 tells me not to what I, if I decide I want to do it and then someone, a million people tell

00:42:23.460 me not to, or that I can't do it. That's not going to suddenly make me buckle. Right. It almost

00:42:27.820 makes me want to do it more to prove the point that my instincts were correct. And,

00:42:31.780 and to study more and to learn more. Um, and Kanye has that, right. He didn't, you know,

00:42:35.720 marry Kim to piss everybody off. He married him because he loved her. Right. And he, and because

00:42:40.260 everyone in the hip hop community didn't want her or wanted to reject her, didn't mean anything to

00:42:43.640 him. He took Kanye. He couldn't get into fashion. He just made it. He's now a billionaire because of

00:42:47.820 a sneaker. I mean, his story is one that is just absolutely incredible because he's always been

00:42:53.840 successful because he's had the nerve to stand up to the mob. That used to be called the American

00:43:00.420 spirit. You know, you would, you would be over in Europe and you couldn't do it because you didn't

00:43:06.480 have the right position, the right name, the right connections, and you couldn't do it here in America.

00:43:12.700 You could say, you know what? I want to do whatever it is I want to do. And you could do it. That was an

00:43:19.760 American trait. Now, you know, he, what kills me is he was, everybody said he was a genius.

00:43:26.920 And then he became crazy. And there is very little difference, but there's a very little

00:43:33.800 difference between the two. There's a very little difference. His genius is crazy. His crazy is his

00:43:37.820 genius. Um, and, and I, I can tell you that that Kanye is, uh, he is one of the most fascinating

00:43:44.460 people to be around. Um, and it's, it is, it's sad that people's legacies tend to settle after they

00:43:51.200 die. You know what I mean? And then they, Oh my God, you realize, uh, but I've realized Kanye's

00:43:55.900 greatest since listening to his, to his album, following his story. Um, it just, his lyrics,

00:43:59.940 it really is about just having the nerve, having the American spirit.

00:44:05.140 That's what all of it was. Imagine, Hey, let's get on a boat and cross the ocean. It's going to take

00:44:14.360 us months. Half of us will die when we get there. Probably going to be met by native Americans who,

00:44:23.160 at least in Jamestown, we're not, we're not good. You know, they'll probably kill the rest of us.

00:44:31.460 Let's go do that. Crazy, crazy. And absolutely genius. Let's go to the moon in 10 years.

00:44:38.200 Crazy. Yeah. Genius. Crazy people move the world forward. You know what I mean? And, um, it's,

00:44:43.680 it's, and why that also was important for me was because it also showed to me, and I say this all the

00:44:48.260 time, but I was better able to assess why the Republican party was losing for so long with the

00:44:54.060 black, with black America. Right. There was this, this, um, the reaction to me, uh, you know, when

00:44:59.800 I arrived on the scene, it wasn't pretty, like, it wasn't like I decided to be conservative and

00:45:03.020 suddenly Republicans like, yay, come, you know, join us. Um, there were the purity tests, but there was

00:45:07.240 also what people never understood about me was that I am cultural. I am, I love culture and I love

00:45:11.860 politics and I, and, and people kind of, there was this pressure that you got to be just one,

00:45:16.180 right. You got to just either be a person that wants to be taken very seriously and, and all

00:45:21.560 about politics. Um, or you're the girl that can hang out with Kanye West. Um, and, uh, this is who

00:45:27.700 I am. I'm, I'm a girl that's super intellectual, but I love culture. I pay attention to culture. Um,

00:45:33.080 and I communicate culturally to people. And I think that that's what people gravitate towards.

00:45:37.080 Um, and it's what the Republicans have always missed since Ronald Reagan.

00:45:41.840 Absolutely. And, and Trump, by the way, cultural. Yeah. Um,

00:45:46.180 let me talk about one, one other name, what the day was like when you realized that your name was

00:45:56.780 in the manifesto of the guy from New Zealand that killed 50 people. Yeah. What was that day like?

00:46:04.680 So I've never actually talked about this. So, um, I had just gotten engaged. Um, and, uh, I was in

00:46:09.900 London at the time and I was really meeting my husband's parents and family for the first time. So it

00:46:14.800 was already a very stressful, like trip for me. Um, and my fiance and I were sleeping in bed and at

00:46:20.260 about three 34 AM, my phone starts zinging like crazy. And like, you know, the Nick sort of jars

00:46:25.900 you out of, uh, you know, when you go, something's going on. I look at my phone. Um, and, uh, Charlie's

00:46:31.280 publicist, uh, had messaged me and said, you got to issue a statement ASAP. And I said, uh, groggy,

00:46:37.180 I'm like issue statement for what? And he's like the mosque shooting in New Zealand. I think he's

00:46:41.100 like being funny. I'm like, what the hell would I, Candace Owens in America have to issue a statement

00:46:46.300 about the mosque shooting in New Zealand for? So I go on to Twitter and my, it's just explosive. It

00:46:51.960 always explosive, but this was like all of the journalists like, and Candace inspired, uh, a mass

00:46:57.840 shooting. And the first thing I wrote was like, LOL, are you like, are you crazy? Like, this is just,

00:47:02.280 this is so crazy. You can't even think this is like, I've, it was, it was too crazy to even try

00:47:07.720 to understand the crazy, you know? And then it was, it was real suddenly. I, you know, it was,

00:47:12.680 my name was being spoken about internationally. I had requests from the everywhere, everywhere in

00:47:16.940 America, MSNBC, CNN, everywhere in it, from France, uh, uh, to Asia. And it was just completely crazy

00:47:24.660 asking me to issue a statement. And I eventually did. Um, and of course said, you know, while I'm very

00:47:29.520 sorry, uh, for this horrible tragedy to have happened, it is pointedly ridiculous to pretend

00:47:33.120 that black conservatism in America, um, is somehow influencing, you know, mosques. It's just, I mean,

00:47:39.700 like, you know, Islam and stuff. I don't even speak about Islam. It's just, it was so crazy and ludicrous,

00:47:44.620 but it was the first time that, you know, the next day I woke up and I had these spots all over my

00:47:50.200 body. I didn't know what the heck was going on. So I went to the dermatologist and, um, he says to me,

00:47:55.360 you know, have you thrown any stress lately? Quite hilariously. Yeah. I love that. You know,

00:48:02.680 just a little bit, you know, being accused for killing people. So it was the first time I actually

00:48:06.340 had a stress induced physical reaction, uh, to something that had happened in it. But it,

00:48:11.300 and it really showed to me, uh, how serious a left was about taking me out, you know, because they

00:48:17.840 were willing to assign, um, to, to assign credence, uh, to the words of a psychopathic maniac in New

00:48:27.260 Zealand in an effort to take me out, you know, in an effort to cancel Candace. Uh, so, you know,

00:48:32.920 in, in situations like that, you, you either, you get stronger, uh, or you die and I got, you know,

00:48:37.440 I got stronger. Uh, let's talk a little bit about the media because I have, I've had my share of,

00:48:47.440 uh, media trying to, uh, destroy you and they can do a really good job of it. Um,

00:48:54.400 how have you, how have you dealt with it? Um, how much of it is, how much of it

00:49:02.320 hits you? It doesn't really anymore. It's really weird. And I think what happened,

00:49:09.460 what I have gone through is the same thing that Trump has gone through. And the same thing that

00:49:14.280 Kanye went through where the media can only try to kill you so many times, right before they're

00:49:18.500 just, they're done. What, I mean, what else could you throw at me? You've accused me of killing

00:49:21.560 people. I had nothing to do with, um, you accused me of being a self-hating black. You've accused me

00:49:25.980 of being a Nazi. There's just not much left to, to throw at Candace Owens. And I think they know

00:49:31.600 that. And that almost makes them hate me more. Um, because nothing can, nothing can land anymore.

00:49:36.240 Um, and I, I am saved by the way. I am fortunate, uh, because the things that I went through,

00:49:41.760 uh, with the media had another person gone through, like for example, when they tried to

00:49:45.460 pretend that I supported Hitler, right? Charlie Kirk would not have survived that, uh, just because

00:49:49.800 Charlie Kirk is white and he's male. I survived it only, uh, because it just doesn't stick the same

00:49:55.840 when you start calling black people Nazis, right? As hard as they tried and they tried really hard

00:50:00.840 with that. It just didn't land the same. So in a weird way, I, I, um, I'm, I'm still here because

00:50:05.900 I, I have a little bit of black privilege in that regard. Um, but yeah, now I just don't pay

00:50:12.200 attention to them. Uh, it just doesn't, it's just not the same anymore. Cause I just, I figured them

00:50:16.520 out. Um, and every time they write about me, the media created me. So there was a study out, um,

00:50:24.100 on New York times readers that when the New York times came out and endorsed, uh, who was it? Uh,

00:50:33.040 Buddha judge maybe. And Klobuchar was Elizabeth. It was Elizabeth Warren and Klobuchar that the

00:50:40.480 people who read the New York times and read their opinion piece five per there was a 5% change,

00:50:48.740 but it was toward Biden. Oh, that's so interesting. Those people made their

00:50:55.380 recommendations and those who read it actually changed their vote 5% away from what they did.

00:51:01.620 And I wondered, is that an, is that just an odd ball sitting out there? Or is that a sign that

00:51:08.320 even the New York times readers are so sick and tired of being told what to do from these people

00:51:14.640 in their ivory towers that if you recommend something, yeah, I probably don't. I'm probably

00:51:21.620 going my own way. Yeah. I wonder about that. I wonder about at the end of the day, did the media

00:51:26.460 help or hurt me? I helped you. They helped me. They helped you. At the end of the day,

00:51:30.600 did the media help or hurt Trump? Helped him. They helped him. They created him. They created him.

00:51:34.580 And in many ways they created me because they just couldn't deal with the fact that there was a

00:51:38.440 black conservative that was gaining a little bit of popularity. But when they started doing attacks on me,

00:51:42.340 I mean, I had like 40,000 followers on Twitter, right? They created, they just, you know,

00:51:47.120 because they hated me so much. So in many ways they can sometimes, they can throw gasoline on

00:51:53.380 embers in that way. And so I owe part of why I'm here to the mainstream, the leftist mainstream media

00:52:01.980 hating me. But do you think that they have so overplayed their hand that, I mean, I think they

00:52:08.640 really think they can affect an election still. So, and I don't think they can.

00:52:13.600 And it goes back to what I was saying to you about narcissism, right? So you would think after

00:52:17.160 the humiliating blow of what Trump did to them in 2016, right? Humbled them.

00:52:21.880 A little bit, a little bit, at least if you can't humble yourself, hire the marketing firm to come in

00:52:26.620 and tell you how you should, they didn't pivot one damn strategy. They quadrupled down. They

00:52:33.780 didn't even double down. They quadrupled down. We said half of America was racist. What if we call

00:52:38.240 them all racist? Like, I mean, like, it's the exact same strategy of 2016 on steroids, right? We're

00:52:44.700 going to call them more names. We didn't call them racist enough, right? We didn't tell them they

00:52:49.140 hate America. I mean, I'm like, how can you be this arrogant? It's incredible. I mean, after a loss

00:52:55.120 like that, you would just think just someone on the campaign, someone at the DNC, right? Would say,

00:53:00.560 hey guys, maybe let's, let's not call every single person, half of America or all these

00:53:05.860 Trump supporters names. You can, you can run a campaign without doing that.

00:53:08.800 I think they've made it personal. And I think that, I mean, I lived in that world for a while

00:53:14.680 and if you, there's comes a point to where you want it and it's early on and you'll get

00:53:23.620 a bite of fame, acceptance, cool kid, just on the edge of it for us, just on the edge of

00:53:31.500 it, um, access money. They'll give you anything because you're performing at the top of the

00:53:40.420 game. Right. And the minute you go, this is kind of cool. You're dead if you don't get

00:53:48.000 out. Right. Because it doesn't stay. Okay. You always have to top. And so you will do after a

00:53:56.060 while, you'll make one little compromise, one little compromise. And before you know it,

00:53:59.560 you're not that person anymore. Right. You know what? That's actually the story of Beto O'Rourke.

00:54:04.100 Yes. Yes. You just nailed that story. Cause I mean, that is that his arc. I mean, he just went

00:54:09.220 from like, he just was chasing that feeling of almost beating Ted Cruz and the crowds. And then by

00:54:15.140 the end of it, he was like this weird rambling leftist. I was like, I'm going to take your guns.

00:54:19.820 I'm like, what do you, do you even believe that you're from Texas? What do you do? Come on, man.

00:54:23.020 Like, what are you saying? And he just, he died by it. He died by it very quickly. He wanted it.

00:54:28.340 He wanted it so bad. So bad. Just that little feeling of people cheering his name and he wanted

00:54:32.680 it so bad. And I think that is why the press is so miserable. They want it. This Hollywood too.

00:54:39.300 They want it. They got it. And it's empty. Right. And now someone is challenging that worldview

00:54:46.780 and none of them, they all look at each other. They're in it together. And no, you know, it's

00:54:55.500 one thing to say, maybe I'm wrong. But when you're surrounded by a shipload of people who

00:55:01.940 are all saying, we're not wrong. They might question themselves, but when in a group,

00:55:08.400 no one's going to say that because the ship is going down. You know what I mean?

00:55:12.500 Yeah. And I was really, the Hollywood ship is one to watch because it's sinking. It's

00:55:17.260 sinking very slowly. We're at such an interesting time in this country. Really, there's just

00:55:22.240 so much I want to say. Everything's changing. The idolatry, the sin of idolatry, really,

00:55:29.200 which is so funny because you just go back to the Bible and you're like, yep, that was

00:55:32.100 right too. Like my grandparents had a thing about idolizing people. And they used to say

00:55:36.140 that I idolized Christina Aguilera, which I kind of did. Whatever. Just raise someone

00:55:40.700 for TRL and be a genie in a bottle, whatever. And like, what was wrong with idolatry though?

00:55:46.500 And this is, you know, literally we're learning this lesson so much. What's wrong with idolatry?

00:55:50.440 And false gods.

00:55:52.060 Hollywood are the demigods. They've been the false gods.

00:55:54.700 And now government and politician for some of them has become their god.

00:56:00.360 Right. That's exactly right. So what's going to happen with Hollywood? I mean, even these

00:56:03.800 things, these traces of like, you know, Taylor Swift, you know, trying to send everybody

00:56:07.660 against Martha in Tennessee. Do you remember the Tennessee Senate race where Taylor Swift

00:56:15.960 wrote a whole diatribe saying that this woman.

00:56:18.960 Marsha Blackburn.

00:56:19.560 Marsha Blackburn.

00:56:20.100 This woman is a sexist, massager. Did her Taylor Swift thing. And she still won. Marsha

00:56:25.700 still won. Right. Which, which says something because I'm telling you, even, even five years

00:56:31.980 ago, anything Taylor Swift said was just, you know, it's what you do.

00:56:36.360 And it ended up, they could have said anything in the old days and wouldn't tarnish them.

00:56:42.200 That's right.

00:56:42.760 Now, you look at Taylor Swift entirely differently.

00:56:46.500 Totally differently.

00:56:47.220 Totally differently.

00:56:47.480 And well, you know, it's funny. Talk about somebody who's genius and always forward.

00:56:50.100 Who took the trophy from her? Kanye West, all those years ago.

00:56:53.380 I go back on that moment.

00:56:55.100 America, we booed the wrong people.

00:56:56.700 Oh, that's right.

00:56:58.720 It was yay new. Take it from her. Interrupt her.

00:57:02.080 Right.

00:57:02.280 Oh my gosh.

00:57:03.100 There's just so much happening here.

00:57:05.220 I look at that moment.

00:57:06.360 I'm like, man, Kanye really is a forward thinker there.

00:57:09.700 Wow.

00:57:10.220 And she was a sad puppy victim.

00:57:11.800 And, and, and, but you know, and what was funny about that moment, by the way, to go

00:57:16.520 back to that moment of, of him taking the trophy from her, he told the truth.

00:57:20.940 For those of us that follow culture, it was, it was crazy that Taylor Swift won that award.

00:57:25.540 It was so clear, clear that, you know, the Grammy gods, whatever, that just gave it to

00:57:29.260 her, uh, uh, to please a certain audience.

00:57:31.720 He was right.

00:57:32.560 Beyonce came out with a music video that was like, it was unbelievable.

00:57:35.980 And they gave it to Taylor Swift, who was dressed as a princess because she had all these eight

00:57:39.880 year old fans.

00:57:40.580 And she literally played like Cinderella in a really cheesy, horrible music video.

00:57:45.100 Um, and he got killed because he told the truth to me.

00:57:48.780 When I think about that now in the retrospect, um, just so much could be said about this fight

00:57:54.700 for us to tell the truth.

00:57:55.640 Right.

00:57:55.900 And these people, uh, like Taylor Swift playing dress up and you think they're the victim,

00:57:59.720 you think they're the victim, but they're not, you know?

00:58:02.600 Uh, so it's just, it's, it's an interesting moment to look back on and there could be a

00:58:05.420 whole book written about that.

00:58:06.520 They're really, they're really good.

00:58:08.120 Three books, three books that you read that changed your life.

00:58:12.160 Oh gosh.

00:58:13.260 Um, okay.

00:58:13.840 So for black America, you have to, anytime is soul, but, um, race and intellectuals is a,

00:58:20.700 is a one that just completely, he just destroys it.

00:58:23.620 You can never, ever, ever say it's because I'm black after you read that, um, uh, how

00:58:28.740 the West was won by Rodney Stark.

00:58:31.180 Uh, that one, just, if you don't know why you should love America or why the West is

00:58:36.320 the best, um, I would say that changed.

00:58:39.280 And then I kind of want to pick one that has nothing to do with politics that I just,

00:58:44.340 that, that, that totally shaped me.

00:58:46.060 I don't know.

00:58:50.140 Who would be the third book?

00:58:53.500 I want to pick something apolitical.

00:58:54.840 I'll have to think about it.

00:58:55.480 Like something that just was so random that like totally, you know, like I was just like,

00:58:59.360 cause I do, I read a lot of fiction too.

00:59:01.360 I love fiction books too.

00:59:02.580 Yeah.

00:59:03.020 I can't think of one at the moment that that's coming to me.

00:59:05.060 What's your favorite fiction, kind of fiction or fiction book?

00:59:07.800 I really hate to say this, like, you know, cause it's so brilliant, but I hate her so much,

00:59:11.400 but you have to give credit to Harry Potter.

00:59:13.840 It was just, they're, they're so well written.

00:59:15.480 I didn't know the movies.

00:59:16.340 They are just so well written.

00:59:17.480 And if you're like me and you're just like, you're just wildly imaginative.

00:59:20.780 It's just, that series was so great.

00:59:22.040 See, one of my, one of my favorite writers and it kills me because he calls me Satan's

00:59:27.540 younger brother, um, uh, Stephen King.

00:59:31.820 Right.

00:59:32.120 Oh yeah.

00:59:32.480 I read tons.

00:59:33.300 Yeah.

00:59:33.420 My mother was obsessed with Stephen King and I will say that about my mother.

00:59:36.700 She was, uh, that was the gift that she gave me was love for books.

00:59:40.080 Yeah.

00:59:40.200 And he's just, he's great.

00:59:42.980 He's great.

00:59:43.560 He's a nightmare.

00:59:44.740 Um, but you know, there was a time when we wouldn't, uh, we didn't care.

00:59:51.820 We didn't care.

00:59:53.060 No, I still don't care.

00:59:54.820 I still, I mean, unless you're, you know, just despicable and, you know, aiding the communist

01:00:03.340 party in China, rounding people up, right.

01:00:06.620 You know, um, I still don't care what your political view is.

01:00:10.760 Right.

01:00:11.240 Just used to be able to be friends.

01:00:12.860 Used to be.

01:00:13.880 Now you can't.

01:00:14.960 Yeah.

01:00:15.440 And that's, um, it's sad.

01:00:17.400 So what's on your radar now?

01:00:24.420 Like what's a, what's a five-year goal for you?

01:00:27.000 Everyone asks me this.

01:00:28.020 And, and the reason why I can't have an answer to that is because if you had told me five years

01:00:31.620 ago, I'd be sitting across from Glenn Beck, both of us conservative Republicans, I would

01:00:37.180 have been like, you are smoking crack cocaine.

01:00:39.080 Right.

01:00:39.600 Right.

01:00:39.840 Okay.

01:00:40.080 So, um, I, I can't say because I, I, I almost feel like I am on some crazy, uh, magic carpet

01:00:49.360 ride and, uh, I don't know where it's like, it's being led by somebody else.

01:00:52.940 I don't know where it's going to end.

01:00:54.200 Um, but I can tell you where my focus is, um, uh, for first is, is just to, um, wake up

01:00:59.320 black America.

01:00:59.720 I think black America is a linchpin, uh, for everything that we are trying to fight in America.

01:01:04.800 Everything the left does.

01:01:05.700 It all ends when black America wakes up and we can talk about radical feminism, which

01:01:09.320 I am, as soon as I'm done with black America, I, I might do at the same time.

01:01:12.620 I kind of try to kill them both, but I'm going after this radical feminine feminist movement.

01:01:17.480 Um, and the reason why I say black America is a linchpin is because everything starts

01:01:21.840 and ends, uh, when black people say no more.

01:01:25.460 So think about any movement right now.

01:01:26.900 It's crazy.

01:01:27.340 Like I'm so outwardly spoken against the trans women.

01:01:29.540 Don't even get me started.

01:01:30.280 They call me like the transphobic.

01:01:32.080 Give it to me.

01:01:32.880 I know where this is going to end.

01:01:34.220 That is one of the most dangerous things that's happening right now.

01:01:36.840 Uh, weakening men, turning men to women.

01:01:39.140 Um, it is, uh, it is an evil thing that's happening right now with the trans movement.

01:01:43.700 You know, I happen to be a very religious person.

01:01:47.400 And, uh, if I were the Prince of darkness and I was thinking, how do I destroy people?

01:01:56.800 I would destroy their sexuality.

01:02:00.820 I would destroy their gender.

01:02:02.340 I would destroy their families.

01:02:04.140 I would destroy absolutely everything that is the fundamental building block of who we

01:02:09.220 are.

01:02:09.980 And that's what's happening.

01:02:11.220 Just the trans movement does that like right by itself, teaching people to mutilate themselves.

01:02:15.880 Oh yeah.

01:02:16.220 Can't give birth going down the line.

01:02:17.580 Your family sort of story.

01:02:18.280 I mean, there's no, there is no, you know, I remember 20 years ago saying it won't be long

01:02:25.720 before we buy into this, this, and this.

01:02:28.100 And people said, you're out of your mind and we've long passed those things.

01:02:35.980 And we're now at a place to where they destroy you.

01:02:41.600 If you will not accept and preach that men can have periods and babies.

01:02:51.000 They're starting to put tampons in men's restrooms.

01:02:53.180 The ACLU just fought for that.

01:02:54.760 So you, what's happening to us is if I can get you to fall in line on something you know

01:03:02.380 is absolutely untrue, everything else is easy.

01:03:05.600 Right.

01:03:06.120 Right.

01:03:06.420 And here's the thing about that and what the left is doing and why I never, I will never

01:03:10.040 play the game.

01:03:10.620 There are even some concerns like, oh, you know, if the person wants to be called this,

01:03:14.060 I'll do that.

01:03:14.580 I'll never do it.

01:03:15.180 And here's why.

01:03:16.160 If you met a person that was schizophrenic, right?

01:03:19.040 And there are people that suffer from schizophrenia and they believed in a certain reality.

01:03:22.860 I actually have a stalker and I had to get a restraining order of a person who suffers

01:03:26.420 from schizophrenia and he believes that we're in a relationship.

01:03:30.540 He believes every tweet that I have, he will interpret this conversation of me and you subliminally

01:03:35.680 talking about him.

01:03:36.600 And then he just sends me tons of emails about what happened.

01:03:38.680 Right.

01:03:39.420 Imagine a world where we would condone his reality.

01:03:42.360 Why would we pretend to him that he actually is in a relationship with me?

01:03:45.580 No, we tell him he needs to get help.

01:03:47.100 Right.

01:03:48.000 The left is now demanding that we all pretend, right, that we're crazy, that that's the right

01:03:54.020 way.

01:03:54.300 Like if some, if other people see themselves as this, right, they, if I see myself as Glenn

01:03:58.380 Beck, then everyone in here needs to start pretending that I'm Glenn Beck, right?

01:04:01.620 You are wearing his jacket.

01:04:02.540 I'm wearing his jacket, right?

01:04:03.680 And that's it.

01:04:04.200 And that's all it takes.

01:04:05.160 And then if you say, no, you're not Glenn Beck, you're the person that should be chastised.

01:04:10.340 You're the person that should be run out of here.

01:04:12.040 There's something wrong with you because you're, you're a bigot because you don't accept that.

01:04:15.620 I think that I'm Glenn Beck.

01:04:16.800 That's called playing the crazy game.

01:04:18.500 And you cannot give up even a little bit of reality.

01:04:21.020 You cannot, you cannot play a little bit of the crazy game before it's all gone.

01:04:23.840 The slope is too slippery.

01:04:25.440 The stakes are too high.

01:04:26.720 So when I see a man, I don't care what he thinks he is.

01:04:29.700 I acknowledge him to be a man.

01:04:30.860 You know, I, when I see a woman and I don't care what she thinks she is, I acknowledge

01:04:34.720 her to be a woman, right?

01:04:36.220 Get well soon.

01:04:36.940 I want you to get help.

01:04:37.820 I don't think people should be, you know, harmed because they're suffering from, from,

01:04:41.420 from various disorders and diseases.

01:04:42.600 Um, but the, the left, what they're doing right now and, and trying to make things that

01:04:47.700 are, are, are false, right?

01:04:49.380 Patently false, um, to force us to accept it as reality.

01:04:53.240 It is, it is so dangerous.

01:04:55.260 It is so dangerous.

01:04:55.560 I don't know why people don't understand political correctness.

01:05:02.300 Just those two words are terrifying.

01:05:06.120 You have to be correct with the political class.

01:05:12.220 So who has power?

01:05:14.020 What do they say is correct?

01:05:17.800 And that's all right for you to say.

01:05:20.400 That's, that's, that's what had Galileo locked into a tower.

01:05:26.800 He would not say what the political people say is true is true.

01:05:33.960 They are, they are politically and factually incorrect.

01:05:39.100 Right.

01:05:39.500 You know, you can be politically correct all you want, but that leads to a flat earth and

01:05:45.020 how people don't see that.

01:05:48.100 He's not politically correct.

01:05:50.340 Good.

01:05:50.980 So the, the definition or the synonym for political correctness is lie.

01:05:56.560 That's what it means.

01:05:57.420 Political correct means lie, right?

01:05:59.080 Be politically correct.

01:05:59.860 Lie.

01:06:01.140 Don't, don't tell it to be, you need to be politically correct.

01:06:03.440 Political correctness is, is a word for a lie.

01:06:06.020 Right.

01:06:06.500 And I won't, I won't lie.

01:06:07.940 Right.

01:06:08.480 So there's a difference between polite, right.

01:06:11.160 And political correctness.

01:06:12.460 And we, we associate too many, especially early on associated being polite.

01:06:19.400 We are polite people.

01:06:20.620 We don't want to hurt people's feelings.

01:06:22.900 We don't, I want to get along with everybody.

01:06:25.460 Right.

01:06:25.720 And you know, so if that word makes you, okay.

01:06:28.720 But then it gets to.

01:06:30.900 Be crazy.

01:06:31.580 Wait, what?

01:06:32.680 You're now a big, beautiful butterfly and I have to call you a butterfly.

01:06:36.440 You're no.

01:06:37.580 You know, it's funny because there's a story that my parents tell me when we lived in the,

01:06:40.900 in the, when we, when we were super poor and we were in this elevator going up to the

01:06:44.480 14th floor, which is where we lived.

01:06:45.880 Um, and I was, I, I think I was five years old or I was four and they stepped in the

01:06:50.820 elevator.

01:06:51.120 My mom and dad got the mail and, uh, last second a hand went in, you know, the elevator was

01:06:55.060 about to close and it was a guy and he was really, really, really, really fat, like beyond

01:06:58.800 like clinically obese.

01:06:59.740 I don't remember the story at all.

01:07:00.500 My parents just tell me it.

01:07:01.340 Um, and instantly my parents tightened up because I, you know, kids forget it, you know, forget

01:07:06.600 it.

01:07:06.920 So they knew and they, and I was hitting my, my, my, my dad's leg and saying, you know,

01:07:11.260 guys, guys, guys pay attention.

01:07:12.700 They were ignoring me.

01:07:13.600 And I just said, look, he's so fat.

01:07:16.380 Like he's so, so fat.

01:07:17.860 Right.

01:07:18.600 So the, the, what I'm telling that story is because children naturally have no political

01:07:22.520 recognition.

01:07:22.780 They are, they are the most honest people in the entire world and parents teach them to

01:07:26.500 be polite.

01:07:27.060 It is impolite, right.

01:07:28.840 For me to be an elevator and tell a man that he's fat.

01:07:31.400 Right.

01:07:31.980 But it is political correctness, which means a lie for me to look up at that man and say,

01:07:37.340 you're skinny.

01:07:38.560 Right.

01:07:39.380 That's the difference.

01:07:40.160 That's not dangerous.

01:07:40.920 That's dangerous.

01:07:41.600 Right.

01:07:41.800 That's a totally different thing to be telling people that they need to now start, you know,

01:07:45.020 playing the crazy game.

01:07:46.440 Um, so a lot of where, where my career is going is, is, is really focusing on a lot of what

01:07:52.620 the left is doing and correlating it to black America because I think everything starts and

01:07:56.240 ends with black America.

01:07:57.120 If you tell a black mother that you've been calling her son, Michael, uh, uh, Susan all

01:08:02.780 day at school, it'll, the whole calling kids, letting the people down at school ends, ends

01:08:08.040 when black moms turn up and say enough is enough.

01:08:09.900 Right.

01:08:10.560 Um, uh, the, the, any of the radical feminists up, as soon as black America says no to it,

01:08:14.580 because what the left has done is they've used black America to be able to do everything.

01:08:19.660 That's why they, they, they, they posited, they, they, they position it to black America

01:08:22.820 first and foremost, right.

01:08:24.180 Get on our side about this.

01:08:25.260 This is for you, right?

01:08:26.860 We're trying to help me to movement.

01:08:28.240 They said originally it was supposed to be about, you know, helping, helping, helping

01:08:31.080 black people.

01:08:31.880 Everything they do is about helping black people.

01:08:34.220 Well, what happens when the victim say, no, thank you.

01:08:36.560 Right.

01:08:37.000 Then you're looking at what it is.

01:08:38.160 A bunch of rich, liberal, elitist, you know, white Democrats that are trying to control the

01:08:44.380 entire world.

01:08:45.120 So remove the victim class.

01:08:46.740 I have a, um, a good friend who used to be, uh, an intern of mine, ended up being my assistant

01:08:53.660 for a while.

01:08:55.080 Uh, he went to Columbia university.

01:08:57.260 Uh, he was interning for me when he was in Columbia.

01:08:59.420 He's black guy.

01:09:00.980 Smart, smart, smart, smart, smart.

01:09:03.360 And, um, uh, I told him when he started interning, I said, do not tell them you intern for me.

01:09:11.080 Don't don't.

01:09:12.640 And he's like, Oh, I'm not a stupid man.

01:09:15.460 I know that.

01:09:16.560 And, uh, so he didn't say anything.

01:09:19.320 This is his whole time.

01:09:20.840 Two years, never said anything to them.

01:09:23.580 It was the last semester before he graduated.

01:09:27.760 And, uh, he came in one day and he was just shaking mad.

01:09:32.860 He was so mad.

01:09:33.460 And, uh, the, the professor had decided to use the class time to, um, ask the students

01:09:42.540 to compare me to which dictator would it be pull pot?

01:09:48.560 Would it be Hitler?

01:09:49.820 Would it be Mao?

01:09:50.980 I mean, literally for an hour and they discussed it and he couldn't take it anymore.

01:09:55.360 And he raised his hand and he said, I said, Oh John, you didn't, you didn't.

01:09:59.740 And he said, Oh no, I, I knew exactly what to say that shut that conversation down.

01:10:05.920 And I said, what?

01:10:06.740 And he said, I raised my hand and he said, I think he's more like Martin Luther King.

01:10:13.940 And the professor who was white didn't know what to do was like, okay.

01:10:21.600 Um, and they moved on.

01:10:23.600 That's it.

01:10:24.180 It's true.

01:10:24.800 I mean, he just took it away.

01:10:26.420 Yeah.

01:10:26.740 Took it away.

01:10:27.220 Power that black America has because we have been used as the victims.

01:10:31.660 As soon as the victims say no more, what do you, what do you, what are you doing?

01:10:35.200 Then you just look like you look crazy.

01:10:36.740 You, you just look crazy.

01:10:38.180 So, um, that's really my focus.

01:10:39.940 I think really, and I say you can save America if you save black America first.

01:10:43.440 That's, that's why I believe that because the left has given so much power to black America.

01:10:48.080 All of its power.

01:10:48.900 They're, they're completely dependent on black America.

01:10:52.280 I'm going to end with this.

01:10:53.500 I saw you speak.

01:10:54.680 I've seen you speak on video before from the beginning.

01:10:58.860 I've watched you from afar.

01:11:01.260 The difference a year has made with you is remarkable.

01:11:05.820 And I saw you speak, I think in December of last year.

01:11:11.020 And, uh, I sat out in the audience and I just watched you and, uh, I think you are one of the most powerful speakers I've seen.

01:11:23.100 And, uh, I, I honestly believe, and I'm not going to ask you anything about this, but I honestly believe, uh, if I were the left, you're Michelle Obama, uh, in spades.

01:11:42.100 I mean, you were just every hand, you're Michelle Obama, you have that kind of power, you know, culture, you're well-spoken, you're smart, you're likable.

01:11:53.200 I can't wait to see what you do with the opportunities you've been dealt and the work that I know you're putting in.

01:12:04.880 You have a very, very long and bright future.

01:12:09.080 I'm excited to see it.

01:12:10.040 That's a, that's a really huge compliment coming from you.

01:12:13.360 And, uh, you know, just really for me, it's, it's just about, I don't want to let people down.

01:12:19.120 I don't want to let myself down.

01:12:20.840 I don't want to let my grandparents down.

01:12:22.880 Um, and I, every single day I, you know, I just put in the work.

01:12:26.280 Um, and I know I'm just at the beginning.

01:12:27.680 I mean, you, you've been doing this for a long time and you still have to learn.

01:12:32.220 Oh my gosh.

01:12:33.200 Read all the time.

01:12:34.120 That's the pressure.

01:12:34.860 We have to be smarter.

01:12:36.240 Uh, we have to be truer and we have to, we have to work harder.

01:12:39.040 Pleasure.

01:12:40.340 Thank you so much.

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The Glenn Beck Program - February 29, 2020

Ep 69 ｜ Leftists Need Black America, but Candace Owens Doesn’t Need the Left ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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