The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 74 ｜ MyPillow CEO： ‘My Drug Dealers Did an Intervention’ ｜ Mike Lindell

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00:01:01.880 today's podcast may just wear you out this is one of the more dynamic

00:01:30.460 men i have ever met and you would not think inspiration could come from a pillow i mean

00:01:37.920 you know those pillows that are monogrammed with cheesy you know meaningful phrases like live laugh

00:01:44.480 love no a pillow that is so good the president of the united states became a friend with a guy who

00:01:51.140 makes them he is a guy who invented a pillow an open cell polyfoam pillow that has transformed many

00:02:00.900 lives you have seen him on television and he believes that all of it from the pillow design

00:02:07.680 all the way to what he's doing today comes from god and it's that pillow that is at the center of it

00:02:14.540 out of it he built a multi-million dollar empire he became a celebrity friends with the president of the

00:02:20.320 united states but that's not what that empire is for as you will hear today part of the inspiration

00:02:27.800 that comes from him is the rise from the very lowest of low of addiction of hard drugs cocaine alcohol

00:02:36.180 crack it's the american story of a little boy who at seven his parents get a divorce at that time

00:02:44.820 almost unheard of almost unheard of and is lost but then sees the unbelievable possibilities that america offers

00:02:51.860 it's really hard to become a multi-millionaire it's even harder to become a multi-millionaire after overcoming

00:02:57.860 a crack cocaine addiction and it is also even harder to keep that or to grow that when you are the friend

00:03:06.380 of an outspoken friend of somebody that half the country wants to destroy all of his products are made here

00:03:13.200 in america and the pillow was the cornerstone but his next journey take him into addiction recovery

00:03:22.260 really service and possibly a governorship today on the podcast the one and the only mike lindell

00:03:31.220 the first time i met you you wore me out you have more energy than anyone i think i know and you're

00:03:54.160 operating at a thousand miles an hour all the time yeah you hear that a lot oh yeah yeah you're enjoying

00:04:00.480 money yeah so you're like it's crazy um and i want to talk to you about your business i want to talk

00:04:07.360 about uh trump i want to talk about the future but i i really want to start with i think the key to you

00:04:16.900 is understanding where you came from so tell me about your early life because you most people don't

00:04:24.500 know this and i don't think i've ever said this to a guy sitting across from me in a suit you're a crack

00:04:29.760 addict right okay that's a pretty big deal yeah yeah um and and you went through hell so give me

00:04:38.520 just the build up to prior to crack okay well you know i came from you know these are things i know

00:04:45.680 now that i didn't know then sure sure sure i uh my family my mom and dad divorced when i was seven

00:04:50.860 years old i was the oldest child these divorces weren't common then i was the only kid in this new

00:04:56.060 school that uh was from a divorced family here uh it was uh 1968 or 69 yeah yeah so i um i that

00:05:06.540 manifested it into i can look back now into either showing off to fit in like climb you know i told

00:05:12.940 my friend watch this i'll jump out of the window the bus is going 40 miles an hour you know to just

00:05:17.580 to do things to show off or i wouldn't talk to people i mean it was very especially if i didn't know

00:05:22.300 them you know i mean if i didn't it took a long time to fit in and that all the way through up until

00:05:28.300 i ended up doing cocaine in the in the early 80s uh all of a sudden then i did cocaine i'm going wow i

00:05:34.220 can you know like it's a mask for pain it's a mess because i do believe addiction is is not a disease i

00:05:40.140 believe it comes from fatherlessness and father wounds mother wounds and uh so i have to tell you i

00:05:46.300 i don't trauma i'm i'm a recovering alcoholic and did drugs my whole uh my whole life up until i was

00:05:52.940 about 30 uh and i always say you know people like it's a disease i don't really care if it's a disease

00:05:58.940 or not it's still my choice on what i'm going to do with it i could be born with you know no legs right

00:06:05.260 and it's what i do with it and yes and and i think that um alcoholism drug addiction is

00:06:14.940 a way that people it's it's at first easier to cope oh yeah um when you have something that will

00:06:25.420 ease the pain most courage false courage give you courage to be who you are or who you think you are

00:06:31.740 and then it becomes this trap to where i have to have this because not i'm not talking just about

00:06:37.420 the addiction i'm talking about the mental addiction of i can't perform i used to believe

00:06:42.780 i was a better dad because i was drunk i read that about you i had the same thing there are so many

00:06:48.460 similarities i'm going i can't be uh um anything i did if i be pool player you know if i was playing

00:06:55.740 pool i had to be high you know i'm a better player you know i'm a better person if you know people

00:07:01.660 people would uh at my five-year reunion this is kind of uh i can remember all of them had great

00:07:08.220 i had never graduated from college i only had two went two quarters two semesters and dropped one

00:07:14.540 and uh why didn't finish my second one so right but but at the at my five-year reunion all of them

00:07:20.140 had either graduated from college started families had careers not jobs they were moved up i had worked

00:07:26.700 at a drive-in movie theater in a grocery store and got fired at the grocery store and but i had

00:07:31.500 i took over the reunion telling them about you know okay guys i owe the mafia 20 grand for football

00:07:36.620 bets they came to my house to kill me i uh i crashed my motorcycle fell asleep going skydiving and my

00:07:42.620 parachute didn't open i mean i took over these the way you are not they're all true they were all true

00:07:47.740 but it was my self-worth it like wow i'm you know i'm the center of attention i got home then i laid in

00:07:53.340 bed and it was a sadness just engulfed me i'll never forget that like i deep down all i wanted was what

00:07:58.940 they had you know i consider and tear up now just thinking of that person back then my other self

00:08:04.620 all i wanted was that and i'm you know back then i'm even praying you know you know god if i you

00:08:08.940 know i'm thinking of grandchildren even then because i wasn't where i was at in my life that i knew i

00:08:13.500 could have been and it was just very painful so who what was the hole you were trying to fill

00:08:19.420 you know i don't know you know back you know i think um when your parents got divorced who'd you live

00:08:25.740 with mom or dad my mom my mom were your parents kind of cooled with each other or was it yeah

00:08:30.780 they were cool but my dad there was it was like a couple years there where he was completely gone

00:08:35.100 you know did you see him once a you know six months and then my mom remarried to my stepdad but it was

00:08:40.060 also it was also you know i guess i can't blame it all on that but there's different wounds we have

00:08:46.220 child but they that was one of the things that uh you know where i always felt different i just felt

00:08:52.620 different from all my classmates i you know i lived in uh i've always lived close to home i always felt

00:08:57.820 there's no way i can uh live somewhere else as strangers and you know i lived in las vegas once

00:09:02.860 for two months i was a professional card counter at one time and i lived there for two months and never

00:09:07.500 talked to a soul other than the dealer it's you know because you have an agenda to talk to him

00:09:12.700 you know this went all the way up through uh um you know with the pillow when i finally um invented

00:09:18.620 the pillow i was turned down everywhere and someone said well mike why don't you do a kiosk

00:09:22.380 we did this kiosk i could i could only be there one day i hated it because people would come up and

00:09:27.260 obviously i wasn't on crack at the time and you know that day anyway and because that's a different

00:09:33.820 drug you're so paranoid peeking out windows but but this guy came up and uh i couldn't talk to people

00:09:39.820 because they come right up to the kiosk they're right in your face and i'm and uh i didn't even really

00:09:44.220 know what i had with the pillow how how big it was going to get but this guy said mike do you have

00:09:48.540 a business card i said i said no i'm all out you know and i wrote on a piece of paper i didn't have

00:09:52.940 a business card and gave him the phone number well we were completely broke and i had to borrow money

00:09:58.300 for christmas presents that year that guy called me on like january 10th and said are you the guy

00:10:03.580 that invented this pillow in minnesota i said yeah and he said well this pillow changed my life he said

00:10:08.060 i run the minneapolis home and garden show would you like a spot in there and so i i got i

00:10:13.100 said sure no i didn't know how it was going to work but i did one thing i put a table i wouldn't

00:10:17.500 let people in the booth so there's a table where they're coming to me and i got this like shield

00:10:21.980 right and uh you know i look back now you can't get rejected if you don't talk to people that was

00:10:26.940 a big thing but these people that bought pillows for me that day then it's like god sent them back

00:10:32.060 the next day all of them showed up there must have been 10 15 to told me and how the pillow changed

00:10:37.580 their life wow this pillow changed my life and you know what's it what's it do i didn't even know

00:10:41.740 what i did then you know and but it made me feel good inside it gave me some self-worth it wasn't

00:10:47.340 about the money i could care less about the money it was about this self-worth if i stepped out from

00:10:52.460 behind that table hey i gotta go yeah yeah i owned a bar for 13 years a small hometown bar and i

00:11:00.060 remember people would come in that if no one was in there just a stranger and i would it wouldn't be

00:11:05.100 like you know a typical bartender i'd give them a drink say let me know if you need anything i'd be

00:11:08.940 over in the corner go i wish they'd leave if i wasn't high or drunk right and and that was me not

00:11:13.740 want to i thought i just thought i didn't like small talk that was my excuse i didn't like small

00:11:18.700 talk but it was wounds unworthiness i think unworthiness is that you know it's it is when i first

00:11:26.940 started to sober up um i was and i don't know if you were the same way i was like i'm just gonna give

00:11:33.260 all my stuff away and you know anything i collect you know you're just like all of a sudden you go

00:11:38.380 from one extreme to another all of a sudden you're gandhi and you're like i'm just gonna

00:11:42.220 walk around in sandals and okay uh right and and uh i remember that i used to say i hate people

00:11:53.820 but what i realized i hated me i was so full so similar so similar and then once you once you

00:12:01.580 discover that way it's a self-worth problem and you start to rebuild that you're fascinated by other

00:12:12.300 people absolutely you realize it was all just it was yourself yeah and you realize oh my gosh i have

00:12:19.420 so much in common where really you feel that way we spend all of our time it's such a trick of well you

00:12:25.580 i know you're religious the same trick that that makes us say shut up if they know about you if they

00:12:32.780 know what you're thinking they won't like you that's right and that just piles on but once you start to

00:12:37.980 say put it out there yeah yeah here's who here everybody i am right and all of a sudden everybody's

00:12:43.340 like you are so brave and you're like no no you feel that way too i'm just dumb enough to say it

00:12:50.220 because i know you're feeling that way it's uh it's so uh refreshing to see someone who gets that

00:12:58.060 my whole book is that that's what i realized and people say when did i realize that just in the last

00:13:03.660 three years did i finally as i was writing my book going wow this is this is why i i was always fear of

00:13:10.780 rejection i'm you can't get rejected i wouldn't talk to people i was the same way i don't i don't like

00:13:15.660 them i don't i don't want to talk to them i don't like people right you know i would think that yeah

00:13:19.500 you know that was the devil tell me but it was myself right it was all this stuff down here and

00:13:23.660 these wounds and and my self-worth and this on where that the devil's lie yeah basically so let

00:13:29.420 let me go let me go back now so when you start smoking i mean because crack is pretty yeah crack

00:13:35.580 is whitney houston once said crack is whack right right well let me tell you the you know people when i

00:13:41.580 this is kind of funny they when i started to uh you know get real famous everyone's going now mike

00:13:47.020 just say you had addiction problems don't say crack i said i went right out there no i was a crack

00:13:51.500 addict because we didn't make fun of anything else we didn't say what are you on heroin no it was what

00:13:55.820 do you want crack i mean that was how bad it was you know what do you what do you want crack that was

00:14:00.220 a joke that people made of it and it was uh it was the early 2000s i had my my i was very functioning

00:14:07.100 cocaine addict and i had a gambler and everything for 20 uh about you know from 84 to about 2001

00:14:14.380 right around the year 2000 and i raised a family had a 20-year marriage raised four kids and and

00:14:19.660 very functional well then that switched to crack around 2000 it was one one night what was the here's

00:14:25.420 what happened the funny funny a friend of mine came up from up to from up north and he uh we were we'd

00:14:31.580 always go after the bars closed we'd go out we'd and we would go to my buddy's house we'd all be doing

00:14:36.060 cocaine and and he came in he hadn't been gone for six months and these guys took their cocaine

00:14:41.020 and they went in the other room and they and he goes what are they doing you know they go in there

00:14:44.860 and they're cooking it up with you know with baking soda you know you have to make the crack and i said

00:14:49.020 then they get paranoid it changes the structure so now crack is different now they're all appearing

00:14:53.500 peeking out windows and anybody that's a crack addict knows the the horror of this it's not a you're

00:14:58.300 not going to be in a bar if you're on crack you're going to be hiding out peeking out windows and

00:15:02.860 and we looked at each other and he said i go yeah it's terrible we don't even talk anymore and he

00:15:07.020 goes and we both made a pact we're never going to be like them we end up being the worst too

00:15:11.580 really it was one fateful night i was at my bar and i was out of cocaine and a guy said he goes i got

00:15:18.780 some i got some cracks the same thing you know just try a night and i had a just every time i did

00:15:23.980 something it was like i'm no i'm not doing that you know right it's worse than what i'm doing right

00:15:28.940 yeah i'm i'm above that i'm not doing this right and uh so i ended up doing it and it it grabs you

00:15:38.860 what crack does it'll grab you and do the stuff the the stuff uh you get there instantly and it's

00:15:45.100 like all you don't have you don't have any downfalls you can eat on it you're not you can sleep but then

00:15:50.060 it does this just the devil's candy it flips on you and then you're you're done there's a there's

00:15:55.180 a say i read it somewhere it takes 30 or i think it's like 30 years for anyone that's ever touched

00:16:01.420 alcohol it did one even one shot for one drink of alcohol to a chronic alcoholics it would take

00:16:08.220 the average is i think it's 28 years i read somewhere for them to where it finally affects

00:16:12.780 your life you know that's all the way from nobody yeah cocaine's like um three and a half years crack

00:16:18.060 is two weeks so that means the only ones that ever that i've ever seen quit on that after that

00:16:24.940 first time is it either scares them that it's so um you know that it's just off the charts and it

00:16:30.380 scares them so they quit and they don't you know but once you get that second item no one in fact in

00:16:35.020 my book the drug dealers that when i when they knew i switched to crack they looked at me and said you

00:16:41.260 just ruined your life i said well don't you know anyone that's ever quit or gone back and they go no

00:16:46.140 so and and that's that kind of challenged me in effect that i knew someday i would quit

00:16:51.340 and when i did you know all my friends have quit now that's i can i can sit here and say because i

00:16:55.580 was their hope you know they're saying wow mike can do it you know we can all do it and they've you

00:17:00.540 know they've all quit and there was a we knew who everyone was every every single crack addict you

00:17:04.140 knew who they were and i'm not saying but one thing i want people to know i'm not saying that anyone

00:17:08.860 can handle cocaine every every every addiction is an addiction whether it's over eating porn no

00:17:13.660 i say you know and it's it's amazing i i've my mother uh committed suicide but she was a drug addict

00:17:21.340 to prescription drugs and tried to get away from them and couldn't get away from them um and uh you know

00:17:29.500 when it came to it she committed suicide because her bottom was death right everybody's bottom is

00:17:35.340 different luckily you know i remember i did cocaine um quite a bit for a short period of time until i

00:17:41.900 remember getting up one morning and you know blood all over my face and i felt like crap and i and i

00:17:48.300 thought what am i doing right and i luckily got away from it otherwise it could have it could have

00:17:54.460 killed me right not everybody has those same experiences and same exactly bottoms right you know

00:18:01.020 you know if we and just kind of skip ahead i will say this but when my my lindal recovery network

00:18:06.220 that's coming out one of the things i have on there is these hope matches and they're not going

00:18:10.220 to talk about bottoms an addict can't relate to someone else's bottom you know if someone says you

00:18:15.900 know you got an advertisement for a treatment center or something you know well i was i rolled my car and

00:18:20.620 killed three people and i quit forever and blah blah blah well an addict either thinks i'm either worse than

00:18:25.180 them or i'm not as bad either one or two yes so all i'm doing is the commonality of the drug so

00:18:31.980 you'll put in your age and your addiction and you're going to have all these people i have thousands

00:18:36.300 of these two-minute videos where all they're going to say is what they didn't like about the drug so

00:18:39.980 like i would do crack i didn't like about crack was peeking out windows i didn't like running out of

00:18:44.060 chore boy i didn't like running out of baking soda i didn't like farming a crack addict knows what i'm

00:18:48.460 talking about and you see these pictures that you're set free these are these hope matches that i'll be

00:18:52.860 talking about and uh because it right now it's just sad in this country addiction is one of the

00:18:59.100 biggest problems we have and it's the most preyed upon by google adwords and everybody you know you

00:19:06.540 put in addiction all these secular treatment centers around addiction is a disease they're preying on the

00:19:11.020 family going does your loved one have insurance you know well you can cash in your 401k 30 grand you

00:19:16.860 know we can get him help you know and it doesn't work it doesn't work it's amazing to me

00:19:22.540 i mean you were in they were called incurables up until really the 1920s and 1930s if you were just

00:19:31.660 an alcoholic forget drug right right you were just an alcoholic you were doomed you were doomed

00:19:37.100 doomed uh i mean most people don't know that morphine uh no sorry heroin was developed by the

00:19:44.780 bear aspirin company as a way to cure alcoholism right they said two weeks of this and you will not drink

00:19:51.980 again well of course it's heroin okay it's like give me crack i'll quit gambling you know right you

00:19:58.860 know but in fact that's a lot of stuff going on right now where they're giving suboxone for heroin

00:20:04.060 i mean it's still a drug right you know so the the the thing that bill w did is he took religious

00:20:11.820 principles absolutely religious people used to say that's you know the devil's fire water and you know

00:20:17.660 don't do that or you're going to go to hell bill took this system and went well what is the hole

00:20:24.460 right and what is it that christ and the gospel actually teaches us absolutely and it is the

00:20:30.860 only thing that works anybody who's trying to get off without that 12 step system which is so

00:20:37.020 biblical right you ain't gonna make it you ain't gonna make it and you use jesus as they in that 12

00:20:41.580 steps and i'll tell you that's why you're set your your faith-based treatment your teen challenges

00:20:46.540 salvation army union gospels i have vetted over 3 800 faith-based centers we have in this country it

00:20:52.780 took two years every one of them works they have 80 80 percent and up success right secular like 10 or

00:20:59.340 15 percent lower there's a reason for that you're replacing here's what happened you know in the 1980s

00:21:05.660 glenn i would go to i would go everywhere everyone would you get your dwis you'd go to so you got a

00:21:10.780 lower sentence from the judge you'd run to a secular treatment center and and you put yourself in and

00:21:15.100 whether it was outpatient or in and you're in there and they're going well look at all the money you

00:21:18.860 spent and you you've hurt your parents or your children and how you're such a rotten person you

00:21:23.900 get out of there and you feel worse and now i don't have my stuff and it's it's a ticking time

00:21:28.380 by him or top time bomb waiting for let's say uncle joe dies and then everyone goes well can you

00:21:33.340 blame him he went back to alcohol or his wife didn't wait for him or his girlfriend or his kids still

00:21:37.500 hate him well now if you didn't feel that if you didn't feel those you know address those why you

00:21:42.860 were why you were an addict in the first place that's what these places do that's what the 12

00:21:48.380 steps you find out why you were what you know what manifested into addiction it's not just i mean

00:21:54.220 then you fill it with jesus you'll restore that heart right yeah the the you know the the steps are

00:22:01.420 really terrifying when you're first you know at step one um they're terrifying but when you get

00:22:08.860 for instance i went through all the 12 steps but then uh and i believed in god and i believed in

00:22:14.220 jesus and everything but it took for me at least it took baptism and whether it is true or not doesn't

00:22:22.140 matter you know jordan peterson says this at all doesn't matter right now i happen to believe it's all

00:22:27.260 true absolutely but there is something about someone else a higher power that says you're

00:22:35.260 forgiven yeah you're all all of this is taken away when you believe that that's when you can be truly

00:22:44.140 healed yes without that you don't i don't know how you live with the things that were a dragging you

00:22:51.340 down and then all the things you did because of those you're just you end up just feeling like

00:22:56.380 i'm the worst person in the world absolutely and that's why your faith-based centers when people

00:23:00.540 come out of them or they you know if you're 12 steps using jesus christ is that is your higher

00:23:05.740 power and when you got that you you have your hearts restored you have a foundation at least

00:23:12.220 something for because let me tell you when you i don't care if you get out of treatment or whatever

00:23:16.220 you're not going to get trust right away as you know that you know who trusted me first my drug

00:23:20.300 dealers they knew i was never you know that i was over and it took time to build that trust so

00:23:25.420 you're not going to have that and so many addicts so many addicts worry that trust me they're ready

00:23:30.140 to set the world on fire and then it's not like a country song you don't get you and even if you do

00:23:35.340 have jesus you don't get your dog back your truck doesn't start and maybe your girlfriend or wife or

00:23:39.740 husband doesn't wait for you maybe your kids still hate you so it's not a country song gone backwards

00:23:45.340 i mean this is you need to be okay with yourself forgive yourself like jesus forgave us and you get there

00:23:51.900 and you're now you have this rock foundation and you can you can move on and once you're set free

00:23:57.020 by the way i i will tell everyone out there there's no harder work than than ex-addicts that have said we

00:24:01.820 got restored because they're ready to you know their um addiction's hard work as you know there's no

00:24:08.220 people say to me i'm sure they do too oh you work so hard you're always doing this i go i love what

00:24:12.860 i'm doing addiction was hard work oh yeah i can think back and put myself in every day just you know to to do

00:24:19.500 this to just to navigate the the addiction you know it was horrible horrible and you feel you know

00:24:25.900 i tell the story all the time that there was a time when i was down on the ground and i realized you

00:24:29.340 either follow your steps of your mom and kill yourself or you get the heck up and and i always

00:24:35.820 tell that story that i got up and you know the next day it was worse you know what i mean it doesn't

00:24:43.340 it's not like oh and the next day i was out right it is so incredibly hard yes to be able to make

00:24:50.940 that journey and i want to i want to ask you you just mentioned trust when you lose everything in

00:24:57.500 your life which i did did you lose everything everything you realize that the only thing you

00:25:05.340 actually own that matters is your word yep that's right right yep and you so desperately want to look

00:25:13.500 somebody in the eye and say no this is really how i feel no i really believe this right and i want you

00:25:20.380 to address that moment when you realized how important that was and and what that felt like and

00:25:27.740 where that led you well i think that's what actually saved me because you know i invented my pillow in 2004

00:25:34.380 and i quit everything in 2009 so all throughout when i did shows and and fairs for seven years when

00:25:41.500 nobody would take me i'd be on the road i never broke my word to the show promoters you know i kind

00:25:47.420 of kept i had to you know nail by to keep the addiction and keep i had i kept my integrity kept my word

00:25:53.100 i think god protected me there because where my pillow was just a pulse you know i didn't break that word

00:25:59.340 and i think um but i did to you know to a lot of other a lot of other uh you know if you took that

00:26:04.780 out of the equation breaking that word that's hard to get back because you don't i remember my best

00:26:09.260 friend breaking a word to him where i had always borrowed money i always good for my word i never

00:26:15.740 would break that with anyone even the drug dealers would give me money plus stuff i'd say i'll pay you

00:26:19.820 back double tomorrow and i never would break my word my best friend i ended up i was in jail

00:26:24.060 jail i got put in jail for some ticket or driving ticket whatever so i i didn't have the money to

00:26:29.580 pay him so i go wow this works out perfect you know he'll he'll he'll be fine that i was in jail

00:26:34.620 he completely he was it just crushed him that i broke my word i could have called him from jail of

00:26:39.660 course i said well i was in jail you know i used it for an excuse that hurt me breaking my word to him

00:26:45.980 break my word to my kids a couple times where i can remember my kid my one son tearing up in the

00:26:50.780 driveway and saying you know i gotta move out you know he was 18 and and that's that's hurtful and

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00:28:35.340 for me i i made a pact with god take this away from me and i will serve you and i will

00:28:50.460 i will not break my word right harder to do with him right his demands are a little higher but uh

00:28:59.100 uh uh i've worked so hard on that the political mess and i i don't want to concentrate on this

00:29:06.700 right now but i would like to touch on that yeah absolutely political mess that we're going through

00:29:11.260 right now the only the only thing that has really deeply affected me is when people say you're only

00:29:19.580 saying these things for money you are only doing this for that you're only because that is the only thing

00:29:26.380 i own and i know the value of that right have you now that you are friends with donald trump have you

00:29:33.180 gone through that crucible where you have protected that integrity for so long and worked to make sure

00:29:40.940 it's rock solid yeah i i think so it'd be my for example um i had a republican in the last election want me

00:29:50.220 to do a doing donor event and they were pro-choice i said are you are you crazy i'm not doing this well

00:29:55.580 i'm right in the middle i said there is no middle i said here would be and i said i said here would be

00:30:02.060 the headlines mike lindell goes against his christian values to back a republican i'm done then my

00:30:07.900 integrity is gone where i've actually my where i am with god it just so happens that i'm glad donald

00:30:13.900 trump has took the republican party kind of made it the common sense party now and matching it keeps

00:30:18.220 matching more and more of my christian values and i've been able to keep my integrity i just don't

00:30:23.500 back down in fact they they say um um there's a cartoon out that says did mike lindell um all

00:30:30.700 the democrats are in a room and they go what are we gonna do with mike lindell and they go what do

00:30:33.980 you mean he goes well he wrecked half didn't you hear he wrecked half of his brain when he was on crack

00:30:38.540 now he has no realization of any self-doubt and it's kind of a cool thing i said that i said that

00:30:44.540 that was by steve i sent him pillows i go thanks thanks but it but it just kind of tells you where

00:30:53.180 i stand my i don't think my integrity people know you know when i went into the election does it bother

00:30:59.020 you that knowing that you are like that does it bother you when people try to smear your integrity when

00:31:08.540 it's not you right it did in where it did i got a realization a slap in the face right away in the

00:31:16.140 summer of 2016. now you realize when i came out of addiction i didn't know anything about politics

00:31:21.580 and then when i ended up this i had a dream i had a dream one night i'd meet donald trump in 2015

00:31:27.580 and then he ran for president and then i'm going boy i better learn what everything is you know

00:31:32.540 i never voted i didn't know politics were important really i didn't know anything about

00:31:36.620 politics i didn't think they were important but when i came out of addiction i'm going

00:31:39.980 wow my friends are unemployed everyone's got lost their houses there's a president giving money to

00:31:44.780 an evil empire and i go what did i miss you know i literally am going what did i miss so i come from

00:31:50.620 a blank slate and when when and i had by a divine appointment i met donald trump now this is the summer

00:31:57.340 of 16 august 15 2016. i get invited by him personally to meet him in a private meeting and i fly out to

00:32:05.740 new york i don't even know if i had been to new york before and i guess i had and they uh i fly out

00:32:10.940 there and i and it's a half hour meeting and i and we're talking about you know right they said

00:32:15.660 whatever you do don't tell me you're on crack and don't you know an ex-addict and and you're never

00:32:20.140 going to meet him alone well but divine appointments i end up meeting him alone one of the first things i

00:32:24.060 said i was an ex-crack addict you know and i but i told him my passion was i was going to have a big

00:32:29.260 platform to help addicts and everything he told me what he was going to do he was he loved the fact that i

00:32:34.460 you know made all my product your pillows and we talked for a half hour and i just i've been around

00:32:41.340 everyone they from no forks to four forks and i 100 was all in because i what an advantage i got to see

00:32:47.420 the person read him and know that you know he had no agenda other than to help this country and help

00:32:54.060 his individuals and he didn't ask for money this wasn't a money thing this was just a real person

00:32:59.980 and all these things i go wow if he does all this this is incredible but i went i walked out of that

00:33:04.460 room talked to his employees and i mean i i went deep okay i'm going hey what do you what do you

00:33:09.500 think of your boss everyone most were women and minorities going this guy's the best he personally

00:33:14.700 they all had a personal story how he had helped him i and now so i'm going to go all in i flew back

00:33:19.580 to minnesota and i went and now back then i could say to the media i'm walking across the street and

00:33:24.700 they'd all be there with their microphones right i went to my boardroom and i said you guys i'm

00:33:28.780 going to do a press release i want to tell everyone about donald trump i said this you

00:33:32.860 know we got to go all in this is mad everything he's going to say he's going to do is amazing

00:33:37.100 well my board one guy said mike you do that you're going to ruin our company

00:33:40.780 and nearly you know you're going to ruin half of the country well yeah yeah people walked out of that

00:33:44.700 room and i was mad my cmo came out she goes mike we didn't get all this way by you not listening

00:33:49.340 to god i went back in that boardroom i said we didn't get all this way by listening to god i'm

00:33:53.340 doing that press release i did it the next day and none of them took me on six of the venues

00:34:00.380 six of the outlets from a newspaper to tv all sent me emails calling me a racist and calling me all

00:34:06.620 this stuff i go what are you kidding and they dug up dirt on me that hadn't that i had already told

00:34:11.740 people but they dug up all this dirt then when he wins the election they took me for the better

00:34:16.220 business from an a plus to an f for my pillow i mean i was just attacked and i'm going god did i make

00:34:21.420 i never doubted myself but i'm going god you need to protect me here you know i'm like i know i'm

00:34:25.820 doing the right thing that i'm supposed to do this and and then by a series of divine things an article

00:34:31.980 came out five days after they did that announcement that told my whole story to the country and all the

00:34:37.340 country then attacked them it stuck up for me you know it was like 95 it was these this small voice

00:34:43.900 down there that was the bad and they so since that time it's almost now i can i've kind of like broke

00:34:49.900 through where i can go on tv now and talk good i can speak out for jesus like i i wear my cross on

00:34:55.180 tv i got attacked for that too many times and and now i can speak out for him or speak great things

00:35:00.380 about the president and i i don't get attacked anymore you know what they what happens is on

00:35:05.020 twitter they'll go boycott mike lindell on my pillow and then another guy will say don't boycott him

00:35:09.500 he'll double his ass we see enough of that guy

00:35:11.420 so so it's it it was hurtful then and scary at that time but now you know i know i'm going god

00:35:20.700 confirms to me all the time i'm doing the right thing you know when i went out um shortly i was

00:35:25.180 saved on february 18 2017 when i did a full surrender to jesus i mean that was after wearing

00:35:30.460 my cross and god chasing me all that time but shortly after that i went out to us bank stadium

00:35:35.500 there was 50 000 millennials and i led them in prayer told five minutes of my story three weeks

00:35:41.260 later my granddaughter and i are at valley fair amusement park and there's all these millennials

00:35:45.980 and these zb's or whatever they're called now they come up and they're going you know wow mike i got you

00:35:51.500 know you're so inspiring i've found jesus i know for my thing not for the christian bands and this other

00:35:57.420 stuff and it was i'm going wow that was god confirming to me like when those people came to the pillow

00:36:02.220 that time that i'm it's on the right path and my finally my granddaughter says um he's my grandpa

00:36:06.940 we need to go on rides yeah yeah yeah but it was so it's been so rewarding to take the platform and

00:36:12.140 break through that that and not worry about that anymore you know so um let's move to donald trump for

00:36:20.300 a second i in 2016 the guy had no record on any you came to him blank yeah i came to him from the

00:36:31.020 political realm right i thought there's no way this guy who has lived in new york has donated to nancy

00:36:37.260 pelosi and all of these people the whole time there's no way he's going to do any of these things

00:36:41.900 and the promises were so grandiose and i'm like oh really because reagan didn't do that right

00:36:47.580 you're going to do that you've been giving to all the wrong people and you're going to do that no way

00:36:54.300 right and i said the same thing i said after obama because i was against obama yeah look he's our

00:37:00.140 president yeah and if he does these things great i want to be wrong right i've never been more happy

00:37:07.340 to be wrong about somebody than with donald trump right um the balls that that guy has it's amazing

00:37:15.180 the things that he has done and even i've come to a place to where the thing i still haven't been

00:37:23.420 able to get past is could you stop tweeting for the love of pete stop tweeting that actually is a

00:37:31.260 blessing absolutely that is what drives the press and everyone out of their mind donald trump is not

00:37:39.100 destroying the press no they are they are he's saying you know they are yep let me tell you this

00:37:45.580 he sets them off and they become 10 times worse because of that and you see and you're like

00:37:51.340 wow he's right yeah he is tearing things down because he's a hand grenade absolutely to how

00:37:59.180 much of that how much of that does he really know do you think well let me tell you there's two about

00:38:05.500 three things to that question one is i i get asked all the time what mike if you had to put say what's

00:38:10.220 the best thing the president's done so far one stands above all others he smashed political correctness

00:38:15.020 nobody we couldn't got anything else done you know that well and i can i always say to people i came

00:38:20.460 to him with a complete blank slate i didn't know where he came from with all in new york i i met the

00:38:25.340 man directly right so i'm going and when i do my due diligence like i did i'm all in if so you know

00:38:31.660 if i'm putting in if i believe i ain't moving from that space so now you know but during that journey

00:38:38.700 especially the first six months and stuff everyone's going well mike you were wrong blah blah blah you know

00:38:42.780 know they're all just attacking me and and i'm going you know god i know i heard this you know

00:38:47.660 right it's scary isn't it i'm staying into the space well but he the thing there's some of the

00:38:52.300 things he would do it and i would sit there and go if you look back when he does something whether

00:38:57.340 it's a tweet or whatever and then you look what it manifests out to like you say you're going wow did

00:39:02.220 he plan that or how it's genius right you know one of the things i tell people about donald trump is

00:39:08.940 he is a problem solution like no other person and he's such a good listener he'll listen and

00:39:15.340 take it in people don't realize that he's not making these things in his head he takes he takes

00:39:20.700 he listens he's got it's like a calculator god's gifted him with this mind but not just problem

00:39:25.660 solution he knows what it's going to manifest to that's the big thing he knows you know hey if i do

00:39:31.980 this this is a solution but he also knows out here what it's going to do and a lot of times he won't

00:39:36.700 even tell people that he just knows instinctively or got you know this is what it's going to do for

00:39:41.580 us in our daily lives now when me you know he just made me uh chairman of the minnesota trump campaign

00:39:46.620 about two weeks ago i'm so excited because now i'm going to do these mini rallies like i did in

00:39:51.420 michigan and north dakota where i go out and i can speak from a blank slate and say you guys i bet

00:39:57.180 everything i had on faith in 2016 now we have proof of concept it's so easy all these things it's like

00:40:04.060 you know look at this and i'm not going to say just look at this this and this and you know from

00:40:08.380 minnesota i can say you know this manifested in your daily life you know for southern minnesota

00:40:13.500 and our northern minnesota the iron range it's the city though in minnesota i can do a great example

00:40:19.900 here's all these things that have happened for like the the blacks you know in the country with

00:40:24.300 the lowest black unemployment the highest is in the country is minneapolis you know we have all

00:40:29.260 these things the highest crime increase minneapolis we're not we're not where the rest of the country

00:40:33.820 is because of a few things going on in politics in minnesota right we don't have to name no names

00:40:38.620 it starts with an o and m's with mar right and it also uh is keith ellison and keith

00:40:44.460 they're blocking the good things like the our opportunity zones these envision centers all these

00:40:50.700 things i i feel it every day there we live in minnesota and people say how are you going to get her

00:40:55.500 out i said just let her stay right now everyone else she's engaging all i got to do is point to her

00:41:00.140 and point to a great city like detroit where these great things are going on in detroit there's amazing

00:41:06.220 things going on detroit in fact i want to make a commercial and go here's one city that listened

00:41:10.780 that's doing all these things from the administration here's what it's manifest in their daily lives i got

00:41:15.340 a lot of things going on detroit here and here's here's minneapolis where we haven't listened where in

00:41:20.460 fact the rally there remember when our mayor said stay out stay away i mean this is what's going

00:41:25.260 on in my home state so i'm ready for the fight and they and um it's going to be exciting bill o'reilly

00:41:30.700 said something the other day uh he said i think bernie sanders loss uh will be the end of the social

00:41:38.860 socialist movement i don't think so i think it's more like uh barry goldwater 1964 ronald reagan bill

00:41:46.860 buckley that those epic losses early actually galvanized people uh and created the reagan

00:41:56.060 revolution later what do you where is this coming from what is the solution to this what are your

00:42:04.300 i can answer that i i really believe this because i had a i believe i got this you know i prayed about

00:42:10.540 this and where this was going i kind of wish that bernie goes further into it because i think the

00:42:16.060 democrats are going to expose what socialism is i think they're they're they're exposing it here

00:42:20.860 here's what it is we don't want this but they're doing it in a way obviously kind of hidden right now

00:42:25.020 to try and put everything into biden but if we but if he gets stronger they're going to have to say

00:42:29.740 hey here's what it'll happen if he gets there they're going to have to start doing their own ads

00:42:33.580 against it i have to tell you i think trump wants to run against sanders yeah i mean yeah sanders yeah

00:42:39.740 and the only problem with this is the risk the risk if something god forbid happens right that would be

00:42:47.580 the that would be a disaster i think this is set up biblical i know i think of this i believe and and

00:42:54.300 i don't want anybody out there to get complacent because i want everybody to convince people on the

00:42:57.820 left to come on over to the right but i believe donald trump will win a landslide and when he does

00:43:02.460 here's what's coming over the next five years with these two biggest things it's like the the final

00:43:07.980 frontier thing i believe addiction is the biggest opportunity in history for the biggest revival

00:43:13.500 ever to get where's who's people looking for hope more than more than addicts or their families and

00:43:17.660 everybody's affected right now no matter how many forks you eat with i don't care it doesn't everyone's

00:43:21.980 affected so bringing this country back to god bringing schools back bringing this next generation back

00:43:28.620 that middle generation that didn't have god in the schools and we have you know these teachers

00:43:33.420 unions and these professors teaching this ungodliness they're going to look at the example around them

00:43:39.500 and it's they're going to be kind of squished by two you know kind of like you know hey this is uh

00:43:44.300 it's going to be more and more people coming on over to to real reality i mean because this is uh this

00:43:51.660 isn't going out i've said it before so many of them believe that socialism they don't even know what

00:43:56.380 it is they think it's having coffee you and i together you know that's being social they're

00:44:00.300 there they don't get it i mean they don't they don't understand what it really well they haven't

00:44:05.100 been taught there's no one teaching it there's no one teaching that there's no one teaching so many

00:44:09.500 things and i think this is where um this is where i think in the next five years the president's really

00:44:14.940 going to focus on destroying this addiction you know they're so you get and then using that to get

00:44:20.940 god back in our schools and your your faith-based treatment all these things we talk about

00:44:25.580 the addiction that's going on with opioids now what what is what's what does that look like

00:44:33.100 and what is happening there well these you know they say that uh that it's actually turned somewhat

00:44:39.980 with the you know the first lady and the president they've done so much for it already but they but

00:44:44.220 and then with i was there when he signed the opiate bill but what it is you've got a generation

00:44:50.220 that's willing to play russian roulette because they didn't have god as a base they you know they

00:44:55.420 they have their self-worth is like like you know you and i when we were addicts their self-worth i

00:45:00.540 haven't thought once you know would i ever do cocaine if it was poison if every other one and i could die

00:45:06.780 and uh if you read my book i actually yeah i actually took it that took that chance one time

00:45:12.780 and uh you know right after i was poisoned now in in mexico then not even two minutes later i did

00:45:18.540 more cocaine you know and so it's such a alcohol people most people don't understand alcohol is a

00:45:25.500 poison right i mean doesn't taste good in its real thing there's a reason for that if it tastes like

00:45:29.900 water everybody be dead right and it's it's it is a poison you are poisoning your body right um and uh

00:45:36.860 and yet we still do it we still do it i i really think it's because that generation that you got

00:45:43.340 that whole you know generation there that didn't have they was they didn't have god they didn't have

00:45:49.660 a fun they're we're reaching out for um for something so self-worth they're just it's a block

00:45:55.500 and they're this whole um you know let's go have cry rooms i mean i mean you know these different

00:46:01.660 things they don't have anybody to lean on and they don't what i'd say to people out there right now

00:46:05.500 this is i will say this if you have an addict out there or if you are an addict and you're in that

00:46:11.100 age group i want you to look at everybody knows someone that's died everyone does now someone

00:46:16.940 somewhere you know you've heard about it or you're someone very close i had very close people to me die

00:46:21.740 but um and but we also know people that have made it through and go look at them for that hope these

00:46:29.260 these addicts need hope these kids need hope that hey i can get out of this whatever it is this

00:46:34.700 this um self-worth thing or you know this hopelessness that's what they're looking for

00:46:40.460 something to hang on to hope so they're not just masking pain um but they're you know they're

00:46:47.340 uh false it's not even i don't even think it's even a false courage so much anymore as it is

00:46:51.820 they have nothing what are we living what are we here for you know what if you don't if you don't

00:46:56.140 believe in a higher purpose than yourself this is this gets pretty empty it gets very empty it's just

00:47:02.380 there's nothing to it right it's very empty and then you have all these things like all these um

00:47:07.420 they get caught up in a world of you know where's the where's the joy you know i think that's the

00:47:12.540 biggest thing now you bring it back to politics i can bring it back i'm going you know one of the

00:47:17.900 things i never thought politics affected anything that affects everything and it certainly affects

00:47:23.500 like the stuff i'm doing for the recovery network it affects everything to do with our christianity

00:47:28.140 everything to do it shouldn't it shouldn't but it does but it does the way our founding was

00:47:33.580 originally right america was it didn't it did right now it affects everything so so that's what i was

00:47:40.860 then and these kids need hope and and and it's when someone dies a friend of yours dies and you're doing

00:47:49.660 i had two two people a few years ago very close to me the one died in the guy's arms and four months

00:47:55.420 later he died this he died of the same thing it's like you know there's no because there was nothing

00:48:01.740 inside there's something empty inside you know i think it was marx or lenin who said that uh religion

00:48:08.940 is the opioid of the masses i actually think that's a self-diagnosis on socialism because your god becomes

00:48:17.580 government and these kids are looking for things they want to make a difference they they don't they

00:48:22.940 don't want to live a life of empty consumerism right and what they are doing is they're being

00:48:30.300 told well if you crush these people who use this kind of language you're doing good right eventually

00:48:38.300 all of that is empty because it's a lie because it's a lie lie and you wait till that happens we

00:48:42.780 haven't seen nothing yet that's what i'm saying you're exactly right you you're looking for someone

00:48:47.260 to fill that self-worth so if you're out there i'll get a good example i i did the movie on planned

00:48:52.700 um you know with the and i was out in california the red carpet and they had all these protesters

00:48:57.740 they pulled me over mike you want can we get your picture and i came over there to them and these

00:49:02.620 these guys and they i took pictures with these kids and and these protesters a lot of them were paid by

00:49:07.580 the way they told me we're just paid we you know we could care less whatever but it meant but a lot of

00:49:12.620 them were doing it it was something to do it made them feel like they were part of something to fill

00:49:16.780 that emptiness you know i sat there and talked to them all by the time i was done talking they all

00:49:20.780 wanted to turn in their signs or you know and go what am what are we doing here you know because i

00:49:25.500 but i can't it's it's hard to to go person by person and i think what's going to happen is they

00:49:31.820 need to see over the next five years that there is hope and you're feeling your self-worth in a

00:49:37.100 better way which is which is that's what i said from the beginning here addiction is the biggest

00:49:42.940 i was with a a billionaire guy about four months ago and he was we were talking about my recovery

00:49:48.140 network and he's but he broke out he said mike you know in order for people to get back to god in our

00:49:53.740 country it would take the great depression because uh everybody has to be bad before you before uh you

00:49:59.580 you have hope and reach out to jesus like when we've been there and going you know please god get me

00:50:04.140 out of this i'll never you know and i said and right off the cuff i said no i said the great

00:50:08.140 depression they had god they were praying for food and stuff physical things we have the greatest

00:50:13.820 opportunity in history being addiction because there you're saving souls you're looking for

00:50:19.740 you're looking deep down where's that you're looking for hope showing that god is that hope

00:50:25.100 and this is what's going to happen over the next five years these these kids and these people need to

00:50:30.060 that are that have this emptiness about them that are looking for because what you just said

00:50:35.820 once they realize that they were they were fighting for something that wasn't real or that was wrong

00:50:42.540 think of then how they're going to hit and have just feel terrible inside but you know what we

00:50:47.660 we made mistakes you did it yeah we made mistakes i want anyone out there you know what it's okay i

00:50:52.860 would i wouldn't change anything in my life people ask me all the time if i wouldn't be sitting

00:50:57.340 with cross from you right now and i mean that you know so this is something that i often think of i

00:51:04.460 i uh teach class in my church and and i say this all the time uh and i don't know if people who

00:51:13.260 haven't been there can really get this i really needed the atonement i needed forgiveness i needed that

00:51:21.820 i mean i desperately it was that or death yes i needed it people are like getting baptized and

00:51:27.740 they're like okay well i uh yeah i don't know i would not wish that part of my life on anyone ever

00:51:37.180 i would not choose to do it again but i don't know if you can really truly be the person you are

00:51:44.460 until you've been thrown up against the wall and it's do or die yeah and then you know right who you

00:51:53.180 are and you have real strength absolutely so who would you be do you think now if you hadn't have had

00:52:01.260 that i you know i don't know in my in my book it's a i get on january 16 2009 where i said i knew that

00:52:09.500 day when you talk about bottoms i make sure i didn't have any money you know that'd be the greatest

00:52:13.660 comeback with god all things are possible but but the next day i instinctively knew that there were

00:52:20.300 two it was like i worked at a drive-in theater and the second feature that was going to come on

00:52:24.940 would either be a my calling or b whatever that would be okay so i i i've thought about that many

00:52:32.620 times and wait back up back up okay tell me about tell me because you're telling me about the turn the

00:52:38.860 point the the pivot point the pivot point tell me what tell me take me to that day this was january

00:52:45.420 16 2009 i mean earlier that year things had to happen that year where i knew that i had this big

00:52:51.420 calling that you know that that god had this big plan for me and i didn't where did that come from

00:52:58.380 where did that come from i would get these it would came from different that here's here's an

00:53:01.740 example the drug dealers did an intervention on me in the spring of 2008 drug dealers yeah i came out

00:53:07.420 of the room and three of the the biggest dealers in minneapolis are standing there and they're

00:53:12.300 going and i'm downtown in the worst part of minneapolis because i had a warrant out for my

00:53:15.900 arrest and i've been up for 14 days with no sleep and they said we're cutting you off you've been up

00:53:20.380 for 14 days and i said i've only been up for 12 and they're you know like that's better yeah that's

00:53:27.580 better and i said what is this an intervention they said call it what you will now two of them left one

00:53:32.380 of them down went down to the street and got the word out and said you know if you see some crazy

00:53:36.380 white guy with a mustache you bet you're not selling them anything and this is in my book

00:53:41.340 these two of the guys work for me now by the way i'm born again christians now but two of them they

00:53:45.020 leave and this guy finally he went to sleep i was already down to looking on the ground we call it

00:53:49.740 farming looking for because i was out of crack and i headed down the streets two o'clock in the morning

00:53:55.340 i couldn't buy crack anywhere i spent an hour and a very resourceful i'm going you know person to

00:54:01.020 person they're going no way man i got you're not getting anything from me and uh came back upstairs and

00:54:05.980 he's waiting up for me and he said give me your phone he says uh i'm taking a picture you've been

00:54:10.780 telling us you're going to write this write a book and that my pillow now listen to this close he said

00:54:16.140 you've been telling us my pillow is just a platform for god and that you're going to come back and help

00:54:20.460 us all someday and uh you know that you're you know i was their hope and to get out of this addiction

00:54:25.740 and everything he said to get out of this addiction lifestyle we're leading and i would tell him that

00:54:29.820 all the time i had 28 of my friends quit on their last day we'd be at the bar after the

00:54:35.180 bars closed we'd be doing cocaine and whatever and i'd be telling about end times and mark of the

00:54:40.300 beast i read about when i was in jail in the bible you know and uh they'd quit and find jesus and i'm

00:54:45.580 going my friends are going will you quit talking to me we're losing friends you know but these and

00:54:51.180 then things happened in 2008 i had four calls one night um they uh this it was uh i had been on this

00:54:58.380 little public access channel never been on tv other than that and she'd air it this christian

00:55:02.860 lay would air it once in a while at three in the morning and i get a call at six o'clock that night

00:55:06.780 i'm i lost everything was gone and by then to my other house this house and and i'm all by myself out

00:55:12.860 in this wooded farmhouse and i said you get this call and she goes are you the guy i seen on this

00:55:17.820 on channel six i said yeah she goes well i know you have a big calling i've got i got this in prayer and

00:55:22.700 god wants me to pray with you if that's okay i said sure she prayed for about 45 minutes i'd mute her and do

00:55:28.060 my line once in a while you know and and about a two hour i end a call with her and two hours later

00:55:34.300 i get another call yeah are you the guy and that i seen on channel six she says uh god told me what

00:55:40.300 you're doing is important and never give up and i want to pray with you she prayed for two hours okay

00:55:45.260 and i and i have i know these people to this day now but then at three in the morning this guy calls

00:55:49.740 up and he goes three in the morning he says uh are you the guy on i've seen on channel six he says i

00:55:55.420 don't believe in god but i keep getting this dream that i'm supposed to call and tell you what

00:55:59.420 you're doing is so important i hope my dreams stop now you jerk and he slams the phone down

00:56:05.020 eight o'clock in the morning i answer the phone i go you don't want to buy a pillow you want to pray

00:56:08.620 and she goes how did you know i said it seems to be the thing tonight but things like this kept

00:56:13.420 happening and my friend came to me uh where i finally he came to me in december he was my match

00:56:20.060 he had been we had both done cocaine at the same time in the 80s we had both switched to crack in

00:56:24.700 the early 2000s and i heard he had found the lord and and i hadn't seen him in four years

00:56:29.740 and he came popping in like beaming somebody in from star trek i go dick what are you doing here

00:56:34.460 and he goes the lord led me here he goes what's going on and i said i said you know as long as

00:56:38.860 you're here i got some questions and the first thing i asked him was is it boring he said no man it

00:56:43.580 ain't boring and i needed to know meaning life without drugs life without drugs or you know i

00:56:49.740 didn't mean with god i don't think you know but either way it was the same thing you know he he but

00:56:54.940 i drilled him with questions for two hours because only he of anyone else who come into my life there he

00:57:00.780 was my hope because we were equal in every way okay a month later on january 16 2009 that's when i knew

00:57:10.220 that that was the end of the line where if i woke up the next day now would it be was it my bottom

00:57:16.620 yeah like i said made sure i didn't have any money left or anything physical bottom but you you know

00:57:21.900 but i knew my calling would be gone i would lose that option forever so where i would be would either

00:57:28.060 be dead or i would be you know even if i had to quit even if i had to quit two days later i knew the

00:57:34.300 calling was going to be gone i just knew that that that was it it was like you know god saying okay

00:57:40.620 i've waited too long you know my sister had called me up and she says you know you have a big calling

00:57:44.700 god's you know god's tired of you standing in front of semis and thinking you can live through

00:57:49.180 anything i used my calling knowing i was called to tell god you know what you picked me for this

00:57:55.020 this sounds horrible that i'm going to be doing all this i'm not going to have my drugs so i procrastinate

00:58:00.060 i procrastinated for almost a year maybe even longer knowing that i had this calling and you know

00:58:07.740 going okay but so in other words i waited to the last minute we've done that before so i've

00:58:12.380 absolutely done that and i've had that same feeling i had the same feeling when i was eight years old

00:58:16.780 had it my whole life right and there came a point to where uh i i really truly believe i i heard

00:58:26.540 in a very compassionate way right it's okay i'll get somebody else right right and it was kind of like

00:58:32.940 that yeah it was not like you know damn you it was like i get it you i've waited but i'll get

00:58:40.620 somebody else and my thing was there i said you know god i want to wake up in the morning and never

00:58:45.020 have the desire for any of it again ever and i woke up in the morning it was like groundhog day i'm going

00:58:49.820 wow something's different the desire was gone i've never you could have put me in a crack house that day

00:58:54.220 i wouldn't have done the desire was gone but now conversion yeah that yeah i mean that was just radical this

00:58:59.580 this i mean there was no desire for crack cigarettes alcohol anything it was gone but you know then

00:59:05.180 things started happening but two months later i did go to a faith-based treatment center out of my

00:59:09.580 church to find out i felt led to go there i'm going why am i going here i quit you know to to find out

00:59:14.460 why i was an addict in the first place and i had been in so many treatment centers and i walked in there

00:59:19.180 the first day and i'm going you know i did this much i'm being all grandiose so how many days i stayed

00:59:23.500 up they go we don't care about that the first thing he said was tell us about your father

00:59:27.500 i go what are you talking about in your childhood i said i had a fine childhood how dare you bring

00:59:31.020 this up you know but seeds were planted there that actually brought me all the way up to like i say

00:59:36.460 february 18 2017 when i went into a thing it was actually it's called operation restore where it's

00:59:41.660 actually for veterans and i went in there with hope that i could and did a full surrender and then i got

00:59:46.860 you know i actually got baptized in the jordan river you know i mean i mean these things that

00:59:51.500 happened real fast and uh for me in uh 17 it was kind of like i met a gal in 2014 and she said kendra

00:59:59.340 says you don't have a personal relationship with jesus you're just believing and you know you're

01:00:04.060 what do you mean i wear my cross on tv and it's not a pose and i'm you know i people would call me up

01:00:09.740 this is crazy with in 2011 12 13 when i got so big so fast and or in 14 15 16 i guess was really

01:00:17.020 bigger but they people would call me up and go when i was the only call center and i'd answer and

01:00:21.420 they go you're wearing your cross on tv and this would be some atheist or whatever and i would sit

01:00:26.060 there with and spend an hour with them on the phone and they'd be saved i go there take that and i'm

01:00:30.540 not saved yet so tell me before they got to go back where did and i don't want this to sound like

01:00:42.380 a infomercial um but you know because when you were coming on to do commercials uh on my show full

01:00:52.940 disclosure he's uh an advertiser i know my pillow is an advertiser yeah my pillow is um but uh uh i was

01:01:01.260 dreading this meeting because i got a my pillow sent to my house right and i tried it and i hated it and

01:01:07.900 it wouldn't have been anything i would have ever bought i would have never purchased a my pillow

01:01:12.700 because it's that crazy guy on tv with the pillow stop um and i like the down and i like all of that

01:01:20.860 stuff but i just could you know just sleep horribly i got it i hated it right i hated it and i don't

01:01:29.100 advertise for things i don't like right ability is on and i'm sitting there going how am i going to

01:01:35.260 navigate these waters here and i walk in and within

01:01:43.660 a minute you said you hate my pillow yep and i hadn't really i i was being kind and i was like

01:01:52.220 and you knew it you hate my pillow and uh i was like yeah i do uh then you said you got the wrong

01:02:02.220 size you got the wrong size thickness yep so you sent it to me i again this is not a commercial

01:02:08.700 but i i i it's incredible i sleep with it every night it's not something i even it's just i would

01:02:17.820 have never thought and i wouldn't have thought that there was that much change and it fluffs up i just

01:02:23.260 put my hands you adjusted for you yeah you just put your hands through both ends is that what people

01:02:28.380 you adjust it for you as an individual yeah and it stays that way what the hell is it

01:02:36.380 i am fascinated by how and and i've sold 46 million now but that when when you talk when you talk about

01:02:43.100 what what you just said there it's all about keeping your neck straight at night and this is you know when

01:02:48.620 god gave me god first gave me the dream of this uh for it was the name my pillow i got upstairs in 2004

01:02:54.860 and i'm right my pillow all over like making a logo i'm going this is going to be so cool my

01:03:00.140 daughter came upstairs she's like 11 years old she goes what are you doing dad i go i'm gonna

01:03:04.540 invent this pillow it's gonna be called my pillow it's gonna change the world and she grabbed her

01:03:08.380 glass wash she goes that's really random and went back downstairs but as as um i didn't even know i

01:03:15.740 kept getting these downloads and and dreams it took about a year to invent and it's never changed

01:03:20.540 for instance when we finally had it invented the only thing that changed about 10 months it was

01:03:24.700 invented but i wanted it to have everything i wanted to wash and dry it you couldn't wash and dry pillows

01:03:28.620 back then and so it was back to the drawing board friend went completely broke when it's mortgaged my

01:03:33.900 house just to be able to make it last 10 years i wanted to take every problem solution into the pillow

01:03:40.300 i wanted to have everything you know as long as you're making something that's going to be the best

01:03:44.060 ever i wanted it to be every single person if you went down the streets and said what would you like

01:03:48.380 in a pill i want one that you could adjust here it is i want one that stays cool here it is i want

01:03:52.700 you can wash and dry here it is i want one made in the usa here it is every answer i wanted to be a yes

01:03:58.060 and is it patent oh yeah i got a patent and here's here's what happened i'm going to tell you that patent

01:04:04.540 when i was turned down everywhere i actually went into a bed bathroom beyond when i had it invented i said

01:04:08.940 how many do you want i got the best pillow in history where's your manager and the guy he literally

01:04:13.340 came out to me and said you need to leave now because i was so passionate you know i'm going what do you

01:04:17.740 yeah he goes you need to get out of here and i you know we realized i was and uh anyway so

01:04:23.900 what happened then in 2006 or five i think it was six i was doing the minnesota state fair

01:04:30.140 very interesting i had my three jars of my patent fill up there and there's a guy to my right wearing

01:04:35.980 a suit and he didn't fit in this fair right i'm done selling some pillows and he came walking up and

01:04:41.500 he was an executive from a big bedding company and he said you're the guy that invented this pillow

01:04:46.460 and he says yeah and he told me who he was he said well we checked this out and this stuff lasts 10

01:04:51.500 years or could even be longer now i mine was theory right i've got dreams and some go wow i'm glad

01:04:56.940 somebody checked it out right and he goes this pillow he goes he goes do you have a patent and i said no

01:05:02.780 not yet and he said he goes well let me tell you this will never ever see big retail and i go what do

01:05:07.740 you mean he said the average person buys 40 pillows in a 10-year period it's one of the biggest

01:05:12.940 industry where you just they don't work and they and he said what's going to happen is that he named

01:05:17.500 the big companies they all start with an s they're going to go around you they're going to get that

01:05:22.220 patent and never put this on the market like the cars that got 200 miles to gallon and those words

01:05:27.740 rang in my ear when he walked away after that conversation i got on that patent or whatever i

01:05:33.020 got you know it was patent penny but i'm going to i gotta get this i you know and and i did get that

01:05:38.060 patent and uh because one of the things i want to tell inventors out there too you know patents

01:05:44.300 big companies are this one thing i have my new platform coming out my store.com that's going to

01:05:48.780 change it's gonna be a safe place for entrepreneurs because our products get corruptly taken in this

01:05:53.500 country by companies that uh they'll copy them you'll see the box stores they all have these little

01:05:58.140 monopolies and wow there's my product i invented and and so it's going to be a safe place for that but

01:06:03.980 they um when you uh when you get a patent now they're overturning them in our you know which

01:06:09.900 the president will take care of this they're overturning 80 percent of our patents they go

01:06:13.340 back there and just overturn them are you kidding me what do you mean who does that big big big

01:06:17.820 companies so instead of in america in america instead of copying your patent now they go get it overturned

01:06:23.100 you know i mean this is what's going on in our country right now you know the president's working on

01:06:28.060 this but but let me set us that's what set us apart that's what made us yeah yeah it's ben franklin right

01:06:34.060 absolutely and i'm going to tell you with the patent one of the most important things about

01:06:38.460 pay even if it's a provisional patent to get that so you can always make your product yourself because

01:06:44.300 there is that where they can go around you get it and never make it or go around and get it and and

01:06:49.340 not stop you from making it so that's one of the reasons i got it and then with my pillow

01:06:53.740 they would have copied me or stopped me but you know what happened in 2011 when i went to fill my

01:06:59.260 first infomercial my friends and family we all pooled our money and i said we're going to make

01:07:03.500 the biggest if no one's going to take us no box stores would take us we went to film this the

01:07:07.980 night before and remember i had very couldn't talk to people right we're filming this and we're doing

01:07:12.300 a we're reading off this uh prompt or reading our lines this producer texts the other guy said this is

01:07:18.060 the worst guy i've ever seen he'll never make it on tv why did you bring me he says he's paying you

01:07:22.700 don't worry about it you know well when this exploded i went from it aired october 7 2011 i was

01:07:29.820 living in my sister's basement it aired at three in the morning and i had like 10 employees 40 days

01:07:35.100 later i had 500 so it's the thing is it's too late to close the gate the cows are out of the barn my

01:07:40.620 pillow got too big too fast i've been trying to be copied the name the every they've been attacked every

01:07:46.300 which way but people know me you can't copy my you can't copy me you know and thank god yeah

01:07:51.980 yeah people go we see enough of that guy but they uh so i've i'm actually now with my that's my

01:07:58.780 store.com when this comes out it's going to help entrepreneurs a safe place are you preparing to

01:08:04.140 talk about it yeah yeah i can talk about it right now and what it is it's a platform you're going to

01:08:08.140 come out there like i'm think of a mini amazon and these vendors you can go there now if you have

01:08:12.300 a product out there you can go there now um we've we're vetting american products or entrepreneurs

01:08:17.660 it can be if you can't make it here obviously if you're a good idea or whatever so it's a safe

01:08:21.980 place you we vet them i have another company vetting and they get up there and you have a

01:08:26.540 platform i'm going to bring the eyes i'm going to bring all the eyes to the platform and then

01:08:30.860 you don't have to fight corrupt google and amazon where you're buying adwords on google and and

01:08:36.140 facebook from suck a buck from facebook all these corrupt places it's horrible and and um and then

01:08:42.140 amazon where you go there's your product it's not even your product they're doing they're copying my

01:08:45.980 my giza sheets right now you put you put in giza sheets and it's they're not even selling you know

01:08:51.980 selling my product i only giza cotton it's another thing or you don't even get the product at all it's

01:08:57.500 terrible they don't vet their stuff on these big platforms they don't care about the little guy

01:09:02.140 well i do and i also now i've told the box stores what i'm going to do to save the box stores from and

01:09:07.340 from amazon you know how they're crushing them i'm going to go to the box stores once we have all

01:09:11.180 these great vetted products but you're going to see me on tv a lot more now but that's that's okay

01:09:15.740 but all these there'll be a section of my store section picture cut out where i vetted these

01:09:22.700 products these are my store products these are good old american usa great entrepreneurs and then

01:09:28.380 you're going to go these stores then we'll have them they can say hey we have my store products and

01:09:32.620 get people going into their stores and uh they've all most of them have agreed yeah we'll do that we'll

01:09:37.580 put out a section because they need they everyone likes new names they like people you know coming

01:09:41.900 and the box stores are really struggling and if they go down if they go under then what's going

01:09:47.580 to happen is they go down then your theaters go down your gas everything around there goes down

01:09:51.500 these big malls you know in minnesota we have a lot of big malls we're the first first mall ever

01:09:55.340 started america yeah but we've got you know i've all these places they'll end up being ghost towns if

01:10:00.780 we don't do something now you know and amazon's a monster i mean they their u.s post office wait till

01:10:05.980 they tell the u.s post office that they're going to be doing all their own delivering there was a time when

01:10:10.300 amazon the u.s post office was delivering a package to someone's house on a sunday but i

01:10:17.100 can't get my pillow products delivered i mean they the the deals that they've made the president's

01:10:21.980 right the stuff that amazon's done is so bad and we i'm telling you everyone out there it is it's like

01:10:28.140 a monster it's like just they're just surrounding it's like the movie the glob or the thing back in

01:10:33.420 the day it just just keeps getting bigger so what do you mean the post office you can't amazon they

01:10:38.620 they use i think it got stopped but they was amazon you could you could order on it for

01:10:44.060 saturday and they the post office was delivering your product on a sunday you know they it was it's

01:10:49.340 like an anti-stress law why can you deliver amazon products but you can't deliver other products from

01:10:53.900 other people that mail like if you and i mail some or other businesses you know they do a lot of

01:10:58.780 stuff for amazon what they did they made deals back with the u.s post office very bad deals back we

01:11:03.580 made back in the day and with the ups was one of their biggest if you look at a graph now amazon's

01:11:09.020 doing their own deliveries that's going up ups is going way down they said well we're gonna we're

01:11:14.300 gonna knock out this partner first and then the u.s post office going up because we're subsidizing

01:11:20.060 every single thing ever shipped by amazon where the u.s post office on your tax dollar we're subsidizing

01:11:25.260 that it was one of the worst deals ever made and i hope the president if you look at bezos and you

01:11:30.700 look at the patents that they have filed recently they are and they'll admit it they are a shipping

01:11:38.060 company primarily yeah they're they're trying to get their algorithm to be so accurate yeah that they

01:11:44.780 can what then they believe it'll be happening in the next couple of years um that when they have

01:11:49.900 when they can predict the individual 95 of the time it has to be over 95 right all these products are

01:11:55.500 just going to be shipped to you yeah because they'll know what you're looking for absolutely and they'll

01:12:00.220 just ship it so they're a shipping company over everything else yeah yeah it's it's that scares

01:12:06.060 me where that's going and uh and uh it's going to be stopped all the all the silicon valley things i

01:12:11.180 was on a show the other day actually it was a couple months ago and i had my cell phone and i was getting

01:12:17.420 interviewed and they said and they go the interviewer says well mike did you hear about uh apple the ceo of

01:12:23.100 apple bad mouth facebook for um invading people's privacy and i go who does he think he is bad

01:12:29.500 mouth and then i grabbed my phone and i'm yelling into my phone hey tim can you hear me in there you

01:12:34.140 know yeah i mean this is what it's getting to they know you know where these are going these things do

01:12:39.020 need to be broke up these but these monopolies or or the competition you know your your hardware

01:12:44.620 stores will make it they're the one things are still protected you know the hardware stores because

01:12:48.380 people still go into them and you're not you know shopping it's sad when we're going to have a

01:12:52.860 society where a drone delivers your stuff to your door and they and nobody's leaving their house we're

01:12:57.260 all sitting in there like uh you know like the movie 1984 or whatever it was you know yeah no it's

01:13:02.620 it's a more like i think wally or what yeah yeah where the people are just these fat blobs

01:13:08.620 and everything's delivered but i but that i i think people ask me all the time about the end times i said

01:13:14.620 god gave us grace november 8 2016 because everything we're just talking about would

01:13:18.860 have been accelerated tenfold if hillary would have gone in you know just there would have been no no

01:13:25.340 it would have been over you know and now we have a we have an opportunity here for the greatest

01:13:30.460 revival in history to bring our country back to god and and straighten out these things that are out

01:13:35.980 there we have a great president can silo them out and say we better fix this before it before it

01:13:40.940 destroys us whether that's silicon valley whether that's uh you know your amazon's or your google's

01:13:46.540 or you know these things need to be addressed because it's coming i um i talked to a friend of

01:13:51.820 mine who is uh deeply involved in the government and deeply concerned about what's known as deep state

01:13:59.900 it's just a corrupt group of bureaucrats who think they know better than the president and everybody else

01:14:05.100 and i said um can we turn this corner can trump turn this corner and he said my fear is he is so

01:14:16.620 utterly alone that there are just all of these huge bureaucrats that have been around forever

01:14:23.980 right and he is so utterly alone and the problem is so massive do you think he feels

01:14:31.020 i was watching him at cpac and uh i thought he's now this is why he's successful

01:14:43.100 he's the president but in those in in his rallies it's really not he's the president but he's like

01:14:50.620 it's you he's your friend absolutely that's what he comes across right you know and he's just saying

01:14:56.540 you won't believe what i just did this week you won't believe what's happening you know he's talking

01:15:00.860 to you like your friend would talk to you if you were upstairs in his living room absolutely you know

01:15:05.980 what i mean yeah and so and i think that's why people trust him but he's also in a room

01:15:13.420 where the people trust him he's not in those rooms very often where he knows they're not going to

01:15:19.980 violate my trust right you know what i mean right right and i think he walks out of those stadiums

01:15:27.820 energized i think that is absolutely right he needs he needs continual confirmation you know

01:15:34.220 i've told i told the first lady um a couple months ago i said you know what i want you guys to know this

01:15:39.660 when i see people on the street when they come up to me it's not about a pillow the number one thing

01:15:44.140 they say is thanks for having our our president's back and tell him we're praying for him and that

01:15:49.100 means a lot you know that that every that they're behind it's a confirmation they're doing the right

01:15:53.020 thing and he needs that and and uh not because you're right there is times he's completely alone

01:15:59.020 but i think that's changing with us as people start you know not go get more voice dress out of fear

01:16:06.620 get rid of the fear it's okay i spent your big business out there you know what my biggest day at

01:16:12.060 my pillow is the day we're in i mean this is what they should not live in fear of that oh it's going

01:16:17.180 to hurt if i if i say that i you know if i say what donald trump's saying you know and i just think

01:16:24.140 more and more people are coming over you know why would you not once you they get past that and going

01:16:29.580 this is this is where we're at now um i think he feeds off that i think it's uh it builds his

01:16:35.740 confidence that he's doing the right thing can you imagine if he didn't have that

01:16:39.180 you couldn't you couldn't do it you couldn't do it you'd be in a prison yeah it would be the

01:16:43.900 white house would be a prison it would be a prison and he and he takes a challenge um of course he

01:16:49.580 gets hurt at times where they you know they these fake things they bring up all the time and and watch

01:16:54.780 him i watched him in it and uh the way he stepped back you know obama had this mussolini

01:17:04.380 kind of pose a lot and obama has this i mean uh trump has this this air to him on television

01:17:15.420 but when you're watching him in person that's not what's happening no absolutely not and he is

01:17:21.500 he is actually looking i watched him carefully he was looking all around the room what are p i just said

01:17:30.060 something right who's who's for it who's against it what's the room telling me yeah you know it's

01:17:38.060 like a very personal focus group with the people that he is that that support him absolutely he's

01:17:44.940 like i say he's a great listener and he is and he can take it in you combine that with the one thing

01:17:50.860 he has that no one else can you got to remember he was there like when you said you know here's this

01:17:57.260 new york businessman he's he's been he's been there it's like an attic like you and i've been

01:18:01.980 there we can speak out about addiction because we've been there he's he's been to these places

01:18:06.780 with he's seen this corruptness he's seen it with his own eyes he's dealt with it i think he said one

01:18:12.460 time uh you know yeah i give money to hillary whatever because what she got to come to a wedding

01:18:16.620 or something it was some crazy thing it's just like you paid off all this corruptness that that was

01:18:21.020 legal a lot of it legal but it's but it's morally wrong you know what i mean and he's been there and

01:18:25.740 seen all this stuff with his own eyes and he knows what needs to be fixed for the common man

01:18:30.380 i think people say you know do you think his with him it's not all about money he's got all the money

01:18:35.660 he's ever needed it's about it's a challenge um for him he he likes the confirmation if you're with

01:18:42.780 the one-on-one he really genuinely cares i actually wish i had that as much as he does he'll come up hey

01:18:48.780 how's you going i've talked to people i just came from the white house about a week ago all this

01:18:53.020 there's sacred service and there's door people there's all these people workers i probably had

01:18:56.700 a conversation with these six of them and everyone said how is it how is it how's it going he goes i

01:19:01.100 love it one guy had been there just a year he's like an internee he says i can't believe it he goes

01:19:05.500 every time he comes by me he'll say how's it going remembers my name you know and these things and it's

01:19:10.060 a personal thing and he's not doing it nobody knows doing it so he's not doing it for any political

01:19:15.260 thing he's doing it because he cares and that's you know and just like just like um back then when i you

01:19:21.820 know when i did stuff it also makes him feel good inside that he's doing the right thing you know

01:19:26.380 what i mean when he's getting the the feedback and when he's and so i you know people can sit there and

01:19:32.620 when we talk about the twitter and stuff they say mike boy he should stop twittering you know what when

01:19:37.580 he's tweeting there's so many good things that people don't know that are going on out here because

01:19:42.380 it's like a you know he doesn't have the house to work with so he's got all these great things going on

01:19:47.420 that people don't even realize the stuff he's doing that i know he's doing for like addiction

01:19:51.500 and all these things that he can do with executive orders that that these are going on but they don't

01:19:56.540 even put it in the news because they're so busy worrying about his tweet you know he's the ultimate

01:20:02.780 other hand yeah look over here the republicans are such a disaster they've had the greatest misdirection

01:20:11.020 for four years yeah and they haven't used it they could have they could have passed anything anything

01:20:19.420 and and and the press would have been like yeah yeah whatever everybody's required to have a gun

01:20:23.980 yeah but have you seen what he's done today what he tweeted they could have passed anything well you know

01:20:29.900 what i do believe though i believe in 18 that we got rid of a lot of bad republicans so like this will

01:20:36.060 be i believe everything will come back now the house and everything and i and then these those

01:20:40.620 four years you wait and how you can see what you know that's obviously that's our prayer that's what

01:20:45.340 we all should be praying for because then the things that can you you know everybody with him

01:20:50.460 and behind him i we could just one after another things that what he's done without any help you know

01:20:56.780 think what he could do if they if the republicans got behind him and you know so uh let's let's just uh

01:21:03.900 and adhere with what's going to the future when do you introduce and launch your initiative to

01:21:13.260 um save people from addiction right it'll probably be about two months i have my book out now

01:21:20.940 um i'm using it's called what are the odds from crack addict to ceo that book is out there

01:21:26.220 but it's not out there in a way like you would normally think you can get it you can i self-published

01:21:31.660 i'm dealing with all i kind of changing that industry i even bought my own paper i didn't

01:21:36.220 want to give all the money to the middleman so cbs just yesterday sold cbs viacom just announced

01:21:43.180 they're selling simon and schuster and when i saw that news i went of course they are loser there is the

01:21:51.420 the book printing industry is over well why would if you have a platform right why would you lose

01:21:59.500 well here you know and it's unfair like amazon they take 65 for the digital book i'm not putting

01:22:04.540 it up there are you kidding me i'm not giving him more money for this money for this book is going

01:22:09.020 to the kingdom the lindale recovery network i i put it all in myself all the money and everything i

01:22:14.300 didn't i didn't go out and ask for people's money this is this is going to launch probably about i'll

01:22:18.940 say at the latest two months maybe maybe three at the most we have the the back end that's going

01:22:24.460 going to be an amazing app and website and it's going to set free millions of addicts and employ

01:22:31.020 tens of thousands of ones that have their heart restored this is a game changer like you've never

01:22:35.500 seen this is involves you know 50 000 churches so far and then four thousand treatment centers but

01:22:41.340 it's also going to be the best online help in history how's it going to employ people there'll be

01:22:47.420 the addicts that come out of your your long-term treatment these guys are going to be those are going to

01:22:51.980 be my workers where there'll be uh i need customer service it's it's pretty complicated but i'll tell

01:22:57.180 you that they're going to a second chance yeah yeah they're going to be these uh these are second

01:23:01.180 chance people but they're they're um right now the salvation army has been doing this for years

01:23:06.460 they employ like 50 from within and employers grab their employees when they're we got their heart

01:23:11.900 restored because there's no better hard worker than an addict that's been restored i think you and i are

01:23:16.300 proof of that you just work hard you love what you're doing and and right now reasons and right now

01:23:21.580 we're in an employees um it's an employee's market out there you can go even corporate america people

01:23:28.860 are changing they're going you know what i'm not going to work 60 hours a week now so your guy above

01:23:33.020 them can get all the credit with the ceo i you know what i'm going to tell them i'm either working a

01:23:37.260 normal 40 hour week or i'm going to go to another company we're in a great position right now where

01:23:41.420 everybody's getting higher wages and stuff but this platform i'm launching between two and three months

01:23:46.780 i'm launching my my store for entrepreneurs in about three weeks and i really and and but i'm

01:23:53.500 you know i got three things going and then the president i'm doing the chairman of the minnesota

01:23:58.300 trump campaign for me i've got all three of these going because they all tie together now because it's

01:24:03.580 you know i do realize that now that's where now politics make a lot of the things i'm doing even

01:24:09.740 possible like let's just take the entrepreneur platform so many things that the president's doing to

01:24:16.140 protect our entrepreneurs in this country i could sit here unless we could talk it'd be another hour

01:24:21.180 i could tell you all these great things that are going on right now where before you had about four

01:24:25.420 companies were monopolizing and taking our good entrepreneurs and they sit at home they don't have

01:24:30.300 money to fight it and they go wow i invented this one time or they have inventions they're too afraid to

01:24:34.940 do anything because they're working and they live in fear that what if i fail when they need a safe place

01:24:40.620 so they don't have that fear of failure and that this is going to be a game changer for that and it's um

01:24:46.140 it's really exciting that you know for me i give all the glory to god god gave me this platform you

01:24:52.060 know it's not about my pillow that's just a platform of being to have the integrity and notoriety to be

01:24:58.460 able to do these things and to be able to not put up with these big companies your googles of the world

01:25:03.980 and say you know the other day i was bad-mouthing them on tv my lawyer sold them said quit bad-mouthing

01:25:08.940 google i go why yeah you know why what are they going to do turn me off i'll tell the rest of the world how you

01:25:14.860 know right so let me ask you this minnesota had uh a wrestler as a governor right old jesse uh

01:25:26.860 crack addict tv pitchman entrepreneur is is the governor in well everybody wants me everybody

01:25:40.460 wants me to run i prayed about it and i really you know admit i've even met with a lot of governors

01:25:47.260 saying what's it like being a governor will i be able to change minnesota would i be able to help

01:25:51.660 and that's 2022 so i'm really looking at minnesota this time and saying you know we don't have the

01:25:57.420 the house legislators the state legislators it's uh it's democrat and if that you know if we get that

01:26:03.260 flipped and i could really make a difference you know and god leads me that way i'll do it you know

01:26:08.380 i wherever i'm led and um so i will tell you right now um we'll see but i'm not afraid of it one bit i

01:26:15.740 told the governors i talked to i talked to six of them half-hour private meetings to ask them about

01:26:20.380 this and they all said well mike the hardest part's the campaign there you're going to get attacked and

01:26:24.780 smeared i said i love that part i'm used to that i love fighting the other media you know we were at

01:26:31.260 the guy was at the iowa caucus with uh all the uh i went there it's one of the few um non-surrogates or

01:26:37.900 whatever they were all there and they had all the congressmen then jim jordan mark meadows and everybody

01:26:42.380 was there for we all went to different different caucus i learned what a caucus was you know

01:26:46.540 and anyway we were all sitting in a booth and uh this is the day before and i said there was some

01:26:51.660 bad news there and and uh it was with jerry fallow jr too and he says he says i'm not talking to them

01:26:56.700 they wrote a bad article they lied and i said i'll go talk to her and i i walked up and i i started

01:27:01.660 talking well we have mike can i interview you i talked for 30 almost 30 minutes and these guys are

01:27:07.020 laughing in the booth because she goes i gotta go you know she couldn't take all the good you know guess

01:27:13.020 what never got printed you know never got you know she so she wasted a half hour of her time

01:27:17.820 because i'm sorry i'm only going to tell you good things you know i don't usually you know 90 of the

01:27:23.420 time i don't bad mouth the other side they do that to themselves i want to get people from the other

01:27:28.060 side and say hey you guys it's just your congressmen and your politicians you you people that are over

01:27:33.260 here come on in it's okay quit listening to them you know and i want to get that message out and i

01:27:39.180 think that's what we're that's what we're here for to get the message out and we're in the greatest

01:27:45.340 revival in history and in order to get god back to our country we need to do it through we need these

01:27:50.460 next five years and at least at this time in this country's history to all be to back this great

01:27:56.460 president and great administration because we can do a lot for the kingdom if that happens

01:28:02.380 mike lindell thank you thanks for having me it is always fun

01:28:09.180 you

The Glenn Beck Program - April 04, 2020

Ep 74 ｜ MyPillow CEO： ‘My Drug Dealers Did an Intervention’ ｜ Mike Lindell ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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