The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 76 ｜ 'I Consider Myself the Ellen of the Right' ｜ Greg Gutfeld ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

00:00:00.000 In 2003, Greg Gutfeld was the editor-in-chief at Stuff Magazine, and when he heard that

00:00:06.680 he had to attend a seminar on the theme, What Gives a Magazine Buzz, he called a local

00:00:12.300 casting agency and hired three dwarfs. 0.93

00:00:15.640 Editors from all the major magazines in the country, including Rolling Stone, Glamour,

00:00:20.260 Oprah Magazine, would be at that seminar.

00:00:22.980 They wanted to know about creating buzz.

00:00:25.520 Gutfeld gave them a lesson in creating buzz.

00:00:28.480 He instructed the three dwarf actors to be excessively loud, to eat potato chips as their 1.00

00:00:34.500 phones rang and rang until they loudly accepted the call.

00:00:38.100 The stunt pretty much got him fired, but that's who he is.

00:00:41.860 Greg Gutfeld is a man of disruption.

00:00:44.480 For the last decade and a half, you can find Greg on Fox News, weekdays as a co-host of The

00:00:50.020 Five, and Saturdays, The Greg Gutfeld Show, which is consistently outranking every single

00:00:55.760 one of Greg's late-night talk show rivals on CBS, NBC, and ABC.

00:01:01.140 Colbert, Kimmel, Fallon.

00:01:03.020 He's always beating them.

00:01:05.240 Before that, he was a staff writer at Prevention, then editor-in-chief at Men's Health, then editor-in-chief

00:01:10.960 at Stuff Magazine, then Maxim UK.

00:01:13.860 Andrew Breitbart once said of Gutfeld,

00:01:15.660 Trust me, you don't want him setting his sights on your hypocrisy and public failings.

00:01:20.900 Consider yourself warned.

00:01:22.700 Best of all, he makes you laugh when he does it.

00:01:25.540 He does satire his way, full of subversion.

00:01:29.500 Satire is the weaponization of humor, a tactical fusing of comedy and politics.

00:01:35.040 Add the media into this mix, and you've got the potential for something especially powerful

00:01:39.680 or nasty, sometimes both at the same time.

00:01:43.000 Satire involves adding judgment and attack to humor.

00:01:46.860 Political satire blends journalism into the mix, adding a sense of authority to the humor.

00:01:52.280 Greg Gutfeld takes it a step further.

00:01:54.580 Not only is he political, he's libertarian, performing his satire on Fox News.

00:02:00.140 He is an endangered species.

00:02:03.320 Saturday Night Live creator Lorne Michaels has said,

00:02:05.560 Saturday Night Live lambass Republicans more because Democrats tend to take it personally

00:02:10.660 and Republicans think it's funny.

00:02:12.620 He mocks the sacred cows of the left.

00:02:15.320 He mocks the right.

00:02:16.520 His satire and commentary have never been more important than they are right now.

00:02:21.080 And his show Red Eye with Greg Gutfeld,

00:02:23.340 which aired late night on Fox TV from 2007 to 2015.

00:02:28.700 I should say Fox News TV.

00:02:31.220 It's a cult classic of the notoriously liberal late night comedy genre.

00:02:35.560 Mark Twain said,

00:02:37.080 humor is mankind's greatest blessing.

00:02:40.040 Lately, the left is all too happy to ruin all the fun for everybody with their constant

00:02:45.160 nannying and outrage.

00:02:47.140 Not only are left-leaning audiences unable to laugh at themselves,

00:02:51.100 they're unable to laugh at a growing list of topics that they now deem offensive.

00:02:55.400 Of course, there's a difference between offensive and unfunny.

00:02:58.340 It's one thing to dislike a joke because you find it unfunny.

00:03:03.180 That's one thing.

00:03:03.820 But the progressive argument against humor is instead they consider it offensive.

00:03:09.260 Gutfeld doesn't care.

00:03:11.120 He has literally offended Canada, the country.

00:03:14.620 Please welcome Greg Gutfeld to the Glenn Beck podcast.

00:03:18.300 So, Greg, out of all of the people that I worked with,

00:03:35.980 you were the last person that I thought would write a self-help book.

00:03:39.440 I am the last person I would think would write a self-help book, which is why I did it.

00:03:47.380 And the irony of this, Glenn, is that I kind of started out this way when I was working

00:03:51.280 at Prevention Magazine in Men's Health.

00:03:53.760 I was writing health advice for middle-aged to elderly people at the age of 25,

00:03:59.660 drinking every night and doing God knows what else, smoking a media pack today.

00:04:05.980 I'm giving advice to little old ladies. 1.00

00:04:08.200 So, now I'm almost a little old lady, but a man.

00:04:11.620 I feel like I've accumulated so much wisdom that I can actually share it with people.

00:04:16.920 And it would be a crime, Glenn, if I kept it inside me.

00:04:20.480 Right.

00:04:20.780 No, I appreciate that.

00:04:23.700 I appreciate that.

00:04:24.680 So, let me ask you this.

00:04:27.820 The five o'clock hour at Fox changed me.

00:04:31.680 I mean, I went on and I just, I did, I did a great show and did what I, you know, do best.

00:04:38.780 And when I got out, I realized not everybody took it that way.

00:04:45.600 Uh, and it was, it was so divisive when I didn't intend it to be divisive.

00:04:55.480 Um, and it was so divisive.

00:04:57.040 Are you kind of going through the same thing to where you being in cable news and you're

00:05:03.020 seeing the divisiveness and you're just like, I don't want to be a part of any of this.

00:05:06.940 Well, I'm, I've always tried to be kind of above, uh, the prison of two ideas or the,

00:05:13.800 or the, uh, the team sport politic where like you're, um, either pro environment or you're

00:05:19.480 for nuclear power.

00:05:20.660 I believe you can be for nuclear power and be pro environment.

00:05:24.080 So this prison of two ideas is what the news does to us.

00:05:27.720 It puts us in these places where it's like, um, I'm for, you're either for law and order

00:05:33.920 or you're for peaceful protests.

00:05:36.680 No, I'm actually for law and order and peaceful protests.

00:05:39.660 I just don't like the violence.

00:05:41.200 So, so, so, so it's like, what happens is you're always constantly fighting this, this,

00:05:47.100 this weird beast that wants to put you in these boxes and then set you loose to attack.

00:05:53.260 And I've always been, I think, you know, ever since red eye and, and I've always been trying

00:05:57.260 to be above that, but sometimes you just get sucked back into it.

00:06:00.060 I was just thinking about when you were talking about your show, I will never forget the episode

00:06:04.540 when you drenched Bill Schultz with water, pretending it was gasoline.

00:06:12.760 You originally had asked me to be the person and I wisely, wisely backed away.

00:06:21.600 I'll be on Glenn Beck's show.

00:06:23.860 Cause I couldn't do it.

00:06:24.520 Cause I was, I had to get ready for something.

00:06:26.720 And Bill goes, I'll do it.

00:06:28.100 I'll do it.

00:06:28.520 And I go, okay, that's great.

00:06:30.120 Bill Schultz is going to be on the Glenn Beck show.

00:06:32.420 And he gets on there and you have, you have like a gas and I think it's still, I think

00:06:39.020 it's still online, but I want to compliment, can I compliment you on something?

00:06:43.480 Do you mind if I compliment?

00:06:44.500 Sure.

00:06:45.060 No.

00:06:45.560 Yeah.

00:06:45.720 Go ahead.

00:06:46.120 I think the way your show was shaped is going to be kind of a future for education online,

00:06:56.420 which is that you take somebody who's charismatic, who's educating you as opposed to school teachers

00:07:02.480 who are people sitting, we need to marry a talent of persuasion with knowledge of books

00:07:10.300 and philosophy and history.

00:07:11.720 And I think that the way that the show was built, I always think about the idea of how

00:07:16.560 education is going to be different online.

00:07:18.720 I've been thinking about this forever.

00:07:20.520 It's driving me crazy.

00:07:21.800 Do you do Peloton at all?

00:07:23.340 The bike Peloton?

00:07:25.540 Do I look like I do Peloton?

00:07:28.420 No.

00:07:29.200 You know, I don't do Peloton because the seat hurts my ass so badly.

00:07:35.240 It does hurt, but I get used to, you know, it's funny.

00:07:38.360 I can get used to this about, but you know what?

00:07:40.240 The thing is, the reason why Peloton is so great is that they took the gym and brought

00:07:46.820 it into your home through the use of charismatic, talented performers.

00:07:51.820 Imagine taking the school into your home using talented performers.

00:07:57.140 The Peloton model is the future of education. 0.99

00:07:59.400 And it's like, whether it's you or Jordan Peterson, I'm trying to think of people that

00:08:03.680 like an Eric Weinstein to talk about math, Brett Weinstein to talk about biology, and

00:08:10.480 you to talk politics, me to talk about nothing because I have no expertise.

00:08:19.040 Nothing.

00:08:21.240 Nothing at all.

00:08:22.020 Nothing at all.

00:08:22.640 And yet, and yet you have a top 10 bestselling book and you have nothing at all to say.

00:08:30.340 Do you think having a top 10 book right now is the same as it was like five years ago or

00:08:38.080 10 years ago?

00:08:38.940 If I can just sell 10 books, Glenn, I think I'm number eight on Amazon, right?

00:08:43.840 Yeah, I know.

00:08:44.760 It's crazy.

00:08:46.460 I remember to be number one, you'd have to sell, you know, a million books.

00:08:51.640 When I first got in, it took a million to be able to make an impression.

00:08:57.840 Now they're like four people that are reading books.

00:09:01.160 And, you know, if one of them is on vacation, I don't know what happens to the list.

00:09:06.600 Yeah, exactly.

00:09:07.740 By the way, the one way to beat this is just to be Mary Trump or anybody with a Trump book.

00:09:12.660 I can't believe that sold a million copies.

00:09:14.540 Like who, I don't know a single person, maybe I'm in a bubble, but I don't know a single

00:09:18.460 person who paid for that book.

00:09:20.060 I know people who got it for free, but I don't know anybody.

00:09:23.000 And then those books explode and they go away.

00:09:25.520 Do you notice this?

00:09:26.260 Like even the, um, what's the dude's name?

00:09:28.320 Bolton.

00:09:28.820 The book comes out, poo, and then it just like floats away into the ether and waiting for

00:09:34.920 the next one.

00:09:36.040 And, uh, I don't know.

00:09:38.000 I tell you, there's a, there's something about time that is, that has happened where.

00:09:43.740 Like, didn't the primaries feel like that was, I don't know, a decade ago.

00:09:50.240 There's something about time where everything is so accelerated.

00:09:54.960 You can't keep track of, of actual time.

00:09:58.260 You can't gauge time anymore.

00:10:00.660 I have a, so I have a theory.

00:10:02.080 Okay.

00:10:02.400 So if you didn't have time, like, let's say time didn't exist, then everything in the

00:10:07.440 world would happen at once.

00:10:08.740 Right.

00:10:09.100 Everything would happen at once.

00:10:10.740 Uh, Abraham Lincoln would be shot in a theater, uh, while, uh, we land on the moon.

00:10:16.660 So everything's happening at once.

00:10:18.420 The reason why things are happening, it feels like this is because Trump has accelerated

00:10:23.540 time.

00:10:24.080 So it feels like everything is happening at once.

00:10:26.600 So like yesterday he, he ran through like 17 topics and everybody's like scribbling and

00:10:31.860 stuff.

00:10:32.060 And it's like, and all these reporters are exhausted.

00:10:34.140 They didn't have to work this hard under Obama because they liked him, but they got to work

00:10:37.560 him super hard.

00:10:39.140 They got to work super hard for this orange Godzilla.

00:10:42.220 But the thing is the orange Godzilla has compressed events into time.

00:10:47.140 It's like a, it's like a, how you turn, you turn coal into a diamond.

00:10:51.840 Is that what it is?

00:10:52.560 Or is it the reverse?

00:10:53.600 Yeah.

00:10:53.920 I don't know.

00:10:54.620 No, you don't have a job with De Beers in your future either.

00:11:00.560 Uh, so, uh, so, uh, do you think it's, do you think it's him or, I mean, I'm watching

00:11:06.840 stuff Greg now that I, I mean, I couldn't believe the stuff that was being said and done,

00:11:13.880 you know, in 2008.

00:11:16.520 Right.

00:11:16.920 This has, this has become, uh, there I'm, you're, you're being asked to deny what, you

00:11:24.780 know, to deny your eyes, you know, this peaceful protest thing, they're on the streets, the

00:11:31.760 city is burning behind them and they're saying, eh, it's another peaceful protest.

00:11:37.160 Yeah.

00:11:37.360 And they do this stupid bait and switch thing where they go, like, uh, whenever you're talking

00:11:42.260 about the police, you know, like they'll always go, you know, this is about freedom of

00:11:46.080 speech.

00:11:46.360 And they go, yeah, that's why the police are there.

00:11:48.120 They're trying to get the violent protesters.

00:11:49.860 Yeah, but they're attacking peaceful protesters.

00:11:51.580 No, they're not.

00:11:52.380 They keep doing this bait and switch.

00:11:53.820 But to your point, we're being told to deny things that we see because they don't like

00:12:03.100 what they see.

00:12:03.900 So it's like, like if CNN believes that they, these should be peaceful protests because they're,

00:12:08.240 they're kind of embarrassed by their own side.

00:12:10.660 Uh, then they will actually say this.

00:12:14.120 And if you disagree, you're crazy.

00:12:16.140 I hate to use the word gaslighting because it's so overused, but the liberal media, and

00:12:20.840 I hate saying liberal media, doesn't that sound very 2005?

00:12:23.500 The liberal, you know, uh, Glenn, this liberal media, this liberal media is, is behind all of

00:12:30.920 this, uh, Barack Hussein Obama and the liberal media, but it's, uh, it's, it's, it's, they

00:12:38.720 are gaslighting the public.

00:12:40.580 And the only thing I think is that maybe they believe it.

00:12:43.540 Like maybe Brian Stelter really does believe the stuff that he's doing, which is, that's

00:12:48.660 the cognitive dissonance that we, I think that, I think you and I have kind of gone on

00:12:52.520 the same path of understanding cognitive dissonance and how it changes and affects the way you look

00:12:59.060 at things that are the filters in which you, which allows you to realize when you're wrong.

00:13:03.560 I've realized I've been wrong.

00:13:05.160 You, I've seen you do the same thing.

00:13:06.900 You go like, ah, I made a mistake.

00:13:08.260 And it's a very freeing thing to admit when you're wrong.

00:13:12.020 It's the best feeling in the world.

00:13:13.580 It's like skydiving or, or, uh, jumping off a cliff into a tiny pond.

00:13:18.520 I don't know where I'm going with this.

00:13:20.660 I don't either.

00:13:21.860 But that's, uh, uh, if you hit the water, I guess that's a good thing.

00:13:26.060 Most times you wonder if you're going to hit the little tiny pond.

00:13:29.060 Um, but it is, it is, you know, I, uh, in 2016, I reached out when all of these journalists

00:13:38.940 said, what happened?

00:13:40.680 I mean, you know, maybe, I mean, how could we be this wrong?

00:13:44.500 And they all said that they wanted to find out what was really going on.

00:13:49.780 They had no intention at all.

00:13:52.800 No intention.

00:13:54.340 And I'm watching it now.

00:13:56.440 I, I, I mean, I saw the, the, uh, Bill Barr hearings.

00:13:59.700 Right.

00:14:00.220 Amazing.

00:14:00.820 They didn't even want to hear him.

00:14:03.200 It was, uh, you know, put a cardboard cutout of him.

00:14:06.560 It was incredible.

00:14:08.160 It was incredible.

00:14:08.920 And he, and he, and you, and so then you watched the press.

00:14:11.500 I was watching Stephanie rule on MSNBC saying like, what can we do to Bill Barr for his like

00:14:17.940 offensive display?

00:14:19.980 Like that he was taught.

00:14:21.300 They were actually accusing him of talking over specifically the women he's talking over.

00:14:27.360 Like, did you see how we treated them with disrespect?

00:14:29.380 And there were no people of color in his staff.

00:14:31.720 And it's like, by God.

00:14:32.600 So the cognitive dissonance, they watched everything that we watched and they can't see what we

00:14:39.240 saw.

00:14:39.760 Instead, they saw, they saw an arrogant, mean criminal.

00:14:44.720 That's the way they said.

00:14:45.860 Stephanie rule was like saying something like, what can we do to punish him?

00:14:50.340 And so get this, this is the scary part.

00:14:51.940 You're watching a witch trial in which instead of, of siding with the lone individual that 0.55

00:14:58.100 came voluntarily, they were siding with the posse.

00:15:02.380 They're actually siding with a mob in suits.

00:15:05.320 And it's weird how, but how similar that hearing was to what you see in Portland, which is the

00:15:11.260 intolerance of any viewpoint.

00:15:12.800 So, so they yell and they scream and they have horns and they drown out any, all voices.

00:15:18.220 How is that different than the hearing?

00:15:20.100 That's what's happening on the street.

00:15:21.940 You know, so, so, so great.

00:15:23.880 So where, where should we go from here?

00:15:25.800 Because honestly, I mean, I've always had belief in the American people, but the American 0.87

00:15:32.460 people seem to be quiet.

00:15:34.960 They're not saying much.

00:15:36.340 I'm, I'm, I'm thinking that maybe in November they're going to, you know, just quietly go to

00:15:41.860 the polls.

00:15:42.420 Um, but what we are, when you have, when you have doctors being told, don't you dare prescribe

00:15:52.840 this medicine, even though it, it'll work for some, it won't work for everybody.

00:15:58.220 It's, it's completely safe.

00:16:00.840 Been over the counter for like 40 years.

00:16:04.160 Exactly.

00:16:04.720 What the hell is happening to us?

00:16:06.480 What is happening?

00:16:08.060 There's so many, there's so many pieces to this.

00:16:10.320 Number one, Donald Trump complimenting something is the reverse of the good housekeeping seal

00:16:16.860 of approval for the media.

00:16:18.460 So if he had said hydroxychloroquine is bad and I would never take it, it would be the

00:16:26.100 number one drug and then get this.

00:16:27.980 So they hate it.

00:16:29.020 They hate it because he liked it, but then they demand that he endorse masks.

00:16:33.440 What?

00:16:33.860 Yes.

00:16:34.300 Wouldn't you want him not to endorse masks since you didn't want him to endorse the drug?

00:16:40.160 It is crazy that they are everything they accuse him of.

00:16:46.700 They're doing, you can watch the, you can watch them in their press conferences now and

00:16:53.300 they'll say, Donald Trump is doing this or Donald Trump is setting this up.

00:16:57.700 And you're like, no, that's you.

00:16:59.340 Uh, I'm watching the people behind you build the machine right now.

00:17:04.700 Another, another great example is the, uh, uh, the fact that he allowed the states to decide

00:17:11.000 when to come back and phase it.

00:17:12.880 That's not an autocrat.

00:17:14.740 So they should now, but they call him like, how dare he just not dictate the absolute plan?

00:17:21.620 Well, if he had done that, you would have called him an autocrat.

00:17:23.720 He's a dictator.

00:17:25.180 Yeah.

00:17:25.340 He's a dictator.

00:17:26.840 But, um, it, it, it's kind of scary.

00:17:29.720 It's scary.

00:17:30.700 It's a weird time.

00:17:31.880 Do we, do we, do we turn around?

00:17:34.400 Do we turn around from this?

00:17:37.440 Okay.

00:17:37.940 So to your point, like how America seems like they're very low key.

00:17:40.780 I, I do think that maybe we are closer to the fire than America is.

00:17:46.420 And like, uh, people are still going out.

00:17:48.440 They're still like politics isn't part of their entire life.

00:17:51.720 Social justice warriors, it's all their life, but maybe there's 10,000 of them.

00:17:55.500 I like to think there's no more.

00:17:56.920 My solution is always that we need to share the risk.

00:18:00.600 That means even somebody that you don't like is getting canceled.

00:18:04.200 You have to defend them.

00:18:05.160 I've done that every single time I see somebody getting canceled.

00:18:08.220 You know, it's, we have to do that.

00:18:09.780 And, and it's like, it doesn't matter.

00:18:11.260 And you know what?

00:18:11.800 That person might not do it for you, but it doesn't matter.

00:18:14.240 But the other thing though, is like, okay, there's two schools of thought.

00:18:17.760 Share the risk, forgive, be, do the right thing.

00:18:20.740 But then there's kind of the Breitbart angle.

00:18:22.600 And I always get in fights with the guys at Breitbart, mutually assured destruction.

00:18:26.500 They will not cancel you if you can cancel them.

00:18:28.900 And it's, and they're kind of right.

00:18:30.740 And I, but I don't want to, I, I, it's like, I don't want to play the game, but I do realize

00:18:34.300 that if somebody goes to your place of work on Twitter and says, I want Glenn Beck fired

00:18:39.700 from PG and E, you should be able to find out where that person works and do the same thing

00:18:45.120 because you have to make it costly.

00:18:46.960 Now sharing the risk, which is the altruistic way, makes it costly for the counselor.

00:18:53.000 The mutually assured destruction strategy makes it even more costly.

00:18:57.720 The question is whether you want to go that route.

00:18:59.880 You know what I mean?

00:19:01.340 Well, you know, I, I've, I've, I've been the same with you.

00:19:04.020 I, uh, peaceful protests, all of that stuff.

00:19:06.880 Uh, but if you read Martin Luther King, he said, if it wasn't for boycotts, it wouldn't

00:19:11.060 have had enough teeth.

00:19:12.400 I mean, so, you know, he was a believer in that as well.

00:19:16.400 And I'm not, I'm a, I'm a free market guy.

00:19:19.500 I'm more of a libertarian than anything else.

00:19:22.280 And it's like, I don't want to mess with your life.

00:19:24.820 Don't mess with my life.

00:19:26.300 I don't, you don't like it.

00:19:27.900 Just don't use it.

00:19:28.780 But when your enemy is, you know, doing what they're doing, I mean, when they are going

00:19:36.080 after, they're eating their own.

00:19:38.380 And I can't believe that people like Ellen, what the hell? 0.96

00:19:44.180 Ellen now is an enemy. 0.93

00:19:46.340 I mean, I consider myself the Ellen of the rights and I just think I'm dead, but I, so

00:19:51.760 I want to tell you, I think you're going to like that.

00:19:53.720 I had an epiphany a couple of days ago.

00:19:55.900 I think you're going to like this and you're welcome to use it, Glenn, anytime you want.

00:20:00.020 Do you know that?

00:20:00.380 I believe that cancel culture is the first ever workaround on the first amendment, because

00:20:06.420 remember when people would, we would talk about freedom of speech and they go, well,

00:20:09.500 the first amendment guarantees you the freedom of speech.

00:20:12.200 So you shouldn't be scared.

00:20:14.020 It's like, well, no, actually the freedom of speech doesn't protect me from my career

00:20:17.760 being ruined and my livelihood destroyed or me getting so depressed that I commit suicide.

00:20:22.480 The cancel culture is the first successful workaround of freedom of speech.

00:20:27.940 It can suppress your speech under the threat, the scepter.

00:20:33.160 Is that the word?

00:20:33.840 The scepter of your destruction.

00:20:35.600 We don't have freedom of speech anymore.

00:20:37.600 The only people who do are social justice warriors.

00:20:39.960 It's incredible.

00:20:40.980 Well, here's, here's what's really frightening, Greg, I think is that they, they have, what'd

00:20:46.460 you say?

00:20:47.580 A great epiphany.

00:20:48.560 I like to pat myself on the back.

00:20:50.980 It's a great epiphany.

00:20:52.160 Um, the, the, the problem is the one thing I don't think the founder saw was corporations

00:20:59.900 becoming more powerful than the state.

00:21:03.120 And so the constitution doesn't work for anything.

00:21:07.380 If the state is, is subservient to tech because that's the public square.

00:21:14.960 I mean, it's, it's over, it's over and get this and get this.

00:21:19.520 They, if, if the corporation that you work for all powerful, they have to virtue signal

00:21:26.120 up the wazoo.

00:21:27.560 They have to do everything that is demanded upon them by the diversity committees that

00:21:32.940 they hire and everything, because they don't, it's not worth it to them to get into a tussle

00:21:38.080 on Twitter.

00:21:38.580 So if, uh, Greg Gutfeld says something like all lives matter or blue or, or, or where's

00:21:44.700 a, uh, a blue, blue live, blue lives matter, they would rather just fire you and pay you

00:21:51.360 off than actually share the risk and support you because to them as a corporation, it's

00:21:56.260 more profitable if they just genuflect or kneel before the altar of social justice, which 0.98

00:22:02.480 is why you see so much, uh, bizarre, bizarre rhetoric, uh, in corporations.

00:22:08.840 Now, when you see admission statements, you know, it's, it's like, this doesn't mean anything

00:22:13.940 and it helps no one, you know, no one I'd, I'd like to have the CE I'd like the CEOs of

00:22:21.400 these giant corporations to tell me what they as a corporation have done.

00:22:27.300 I want them to make a public confession because they're like, oh, we've got, we've really

00:22:32.460 the, the, the CEO doesn't care.

00:22:35.500 He's making $20 million a year.

00:22:38.400 He's going off.

00:22:39.380 He's jetting wherever he wants.

00:22:41.360 Meanwhile, he traps everybody in the corporation with some social justice warrior who is making

00:22:47.600 everybody cry and say how bad of a white person there are.

00:22:50.900 He's gone.

00:22:52.380 He doesn't care.

00:22:53.380 I want that guy.

00:22:55.040 I want that guy to do public confessions.

00:22:59.080 Yes, exactly.

00:22:59.820 I'm, by the way, I'm okay with charity fund runs, fundraisers, all that good stuff, blood

00:23:06.860 giving blood, all the company stuff that they used to do.

00:23:10.100 But now it's become, um, it's become a protective machinery because the corporation itself has

00:23:16.080 become cowardly.

00:23:16.980 So they need, this is now a thing that protects them, but not you.

00:23:21.880 And they will like, by the way, I'm not, I'm not in any way talking about Fox, Fox, Fox, you

00:23:26.680 know, we'll stay like, believe me, they come after, we won't get into that.

00:23:31.640 Yeah.

00:23:32.100 Let's just leave it.

00:23:33.000 Just leave it alone.

00:23:33.980 I've walked in that minefield before.

00:23:37.880 Leave it alone.

00:23:39.080 I just, wait a minute.

00:23:41.600 I better shut up at this point.

00:23:43.220 I know not what I, I know not what I speak.

00:23:46.720 Yeah.

00:23:47.640 The reason why, okay.

00:23:49.440 I'm, I'm not in the same position you are, or Dave Rubin or Joe Rogan or Adam Carolla,

00:23:56.020 the original, probably the original.

00:23:56.900 You guys cannot be canceled because you are your own thing.

00:24:00.900 I work for a corporation.

00:24:02.800 I, you know, Fox supports me and I, I really believe that they support me.

00:24:07.440 Um, but I'm not, you know, I'm not immune.

00:24:10.800 You're, I mean, you're immune.

00:24:12.620 Uh, all the people that I met, Shapiro, all of you guys like, and I, and I put my, I put

00:24:18.040 my toe in that, in that water, but I liked working at a company cause I had these shows

00:24:22.500 and it was fun, but the putting like getting into that pond.

00:24:26.900 Or that ocean and, and making your own Island seems to be the only way to survive this.

00:24:33.780 So it's really funny because, um, Dave, you know, Dave has connected with the blaze, Ben

00:24:40.780 and I do a lot of stuff together and we talk all the time.

00:24:44.980 We're not protected.

00:24:46.740 Nobody is anymore because the, the algorithms, they, they change the algorithms and our audience

00:24:53.540 just goes away.

00:24:54.860 I mean, it's amazing how, yeah, they can, they can just make you invisible.

00:25:01.740 They just deperson you, you look at, you look at what gab, look at what gab did, what gab

00:25:09.720 happened to them.

00:25:11.060 They, they start this thing.

00:25:13.240 They believe in freedom of speech.

00:25:14.560 You're going to get dirt bags on when you say any speeches, you're going to get dirt bags

00:25:20.560 there, they get blamed for it.

00:25:22.540 They have been, they have, the company has been demonetized, been shut out, lost its platform.

00:25:29.500 They can't make transactions.

00:25:30.940 And now MasterCard and visa are going after the owners of gab personally, depersonal depersoning

00:25:39.940 them.

00:25:40.400 So they can't have banking services.

00:25:43.600 It's, it's a scary world.

00:25:46.200 I didn't know that.

00:25:46.920 So that's, that's, that's, now that's new to me is that they can actually go after the

00:25:51.660 way you do business.

00:25:52.880 So even as an autonomous business person, they can, they can screw you, screw with your

00:25:57.680 crap.

00:25:58.340 That's, I didn't know that.

00:25:59.460 Oh my gosh.

00:25:59.920 Just like, because the, no, the banks are now getting involved and it's a lot of it

00:26:05.080 is, is Cuomo.

00:26:06.240 He started doing this with the gun manufacturers and the gun stores.

00:26:10.020 So now they're just doing it to anybody who is, they don't like, if you say things that

00:26:15.300 they don't like, they're not going to do business with you.

00:26:17.760 So you can't do any transactions.

00:26:20.120 I mean, it's, it's really terrifying if this doesn't come back around and get back into control.

00:26:26.580 So there's, there's always this thing where like, well, you know what?

00:26:29.420 You guys got to start your own thing.

00:26:31.300 It's like, it's like, start your own Twitter.

00:26:32.960 People don't understand that like that network, when a network is built, everybody just uses

00:26:36.980 the network where everybody is.

00:26:39.000 And it's like, so you're watching Parler, which is a noble adventure.

00:26:41.880 And I love Dan Bongino, but when you have something that like, if all your friends are

00:26:46.160 on Facebook or all your friends are on Twitter or all your friends use MasterCard, you're not

00:26:51.300 going to, can you start your own conservative credit card company?

00:26:55.260 I don't know.

00:26:55.880 But it's like, it seems like you are, there's no way other than, I don't know what you do.

00:27:01.040 It's a very, I never thought about this.

00:27:02.880 I mean, I honestly, I thought about it this, this summer was some smarter people than me.

00:27:08.480 And, and we think the only company or the only organization that could do it possibly,

00:27:14.640 but they've been weakened so badly is the NRA.

00:27:17.680 Hey, the NRA has enough members where they could say, we're going to an establish, we're

00:27:23.300 establishing a bank.

00:27:25.280 And if you want to get out of the system, it's the NRA credit card, et cetera, et cetera.

00:27:30.220 But then they have to go to the stores and convince those stores to take that credit card,

00:27:35.340 which they'll be blocked.

00:27:37.820 Exactly.

00:27:38.520 That it'll, they'll immediately be targeted and they'll fold like, you know, any, any

00:27:42.000 business does.

00:27:43.420 I was thinking, I thought you were going to say something like Peter Thiel and PayPal,

00:27:46.460 because he's definitely one of the, one of the exceptions in all of this.

00:27:51.680 He's a good guy.

00:27:52.920 Yeah.

00:27:53.360 He really is something else.

00:27:54.480 I met him once though.

00:27:55.700 He is, he is socially unusual.

00:27:59.220 I can't, or maybe he just didn't like me.

00:28:01.360 Maybe he didn't like me.

00:28:02.360 He's, I think he's on the, I think he's on the scale.

00:28:05.600 I mean, I think he's, I think he's one of those guys who is so bright.

00:28:10.160 And so he's, he's just on the, he's just on the scale.

00:28:14.680 He, he's an amazing guy.

00:28:17.180 Have you ever read?

00:28:18.380 So what I, I, he turned me on to, when I was listening to, I watched YouTube.

00:28:22.440 This is why YouTube is so great, by the way.

00:28:24.560 He was talking about Rene Girard.

00:28:26.700 I'd never heard of him.

00:28:27.620 He's a kind of a Catholic philosopher, French philosopher.

00:28:31.800 There's like five, there's like five lectures.

00:28:34.300 And so Peter Thiel was talking, I think to Peter Robinson and uncommon knowledge.

00:28:38.800 And they started talking about Rene Girard.

00:28:40.900 And I started like listening to these lectures and it is really amazing how it's, how he predicted.

00:28:49.600 It's all, it's all about scapegoating and what happened to Christ.

00:28:52.880 And it's, it's an interesting thing because I'm agnostic, but it was like, I, I'd never,

00:28:57.180 like I went to 12 years of Catholic school.

00:28:59.120 No one ever taught me this about the, the meaningful, the, the meaning of scapegoating,

00:29:06.200 why Christ was crucified.

00:29:08.140 I never knew any of this stuff.

00:29:09.620 And I went to 12 years of Catholic school and I got that.

00:29:11.920 I got that through Peter Thiel being interviewed by somebody else.

00:29:15.600 I think it was Peter Robinson.

00:29:16.960 It's pretty, it's anyway, that was an aside that I was thinking of when I just, I just thought

00:29:22.300 it was interesting.

00:29:22.840 You know, I saw, I saw that you, um, uh, described yourself as a agnostic atheist, which if that's

00:29:32.300 accurate, I love that.

00:29:34.260 It, it, it means you don't believe there is a God, but I don't know, right?

00:29:38.300 Yeah, exactly.

00:29:38.660 It was like something, it was something that was, uh, given to me.

00:29:42.840 Like I'd never heard that phrase.

00:29:44.160 In fact, if somebody said, Oh, you're an agnostic atheist in an interview and that got picked

00:29:49.120 up by Wikipedia, there's things in, as you know, in Wikipedia that aren't, aren't about

00:29:54.040 you or are true, but I've, I've never actually uttered agnostic atheists.

00:29:58.040 I am part of the, I don't know party.

00:30:00.560 I love thinking about it though.

00:30:02.380 I love thinking about it all the time.

00:30:04.020 You know, I talk, I, I've talked about it on the shows about simulations.

00:30:07.420 And if you start thinking about simulations, the fact that this could be a simulation,

00:30:11.000 you're still talking about a creator.

00:30:12.780 You're still talking about a God.

00:30:14.800 It's just in a different con it's in a different context, but it's always going to be that like

00:30:19.740 the turtles all the way down.

00:30:21.280 If, if there is this, this, uh, creator, then what created that?

00:30:25.360 And it keeps, and could there something just always be there?

00:30:28.560 So it, to me, being an atheist, being an atheist is a waste of time because it's blocking 0.65

00:30:35.020 you from thinking about these amazing things that then open up little portals, you know?

00:30:40.740 Yeah.

00:30:41.140 I, I, some of the smartest people I know, um, uh, I think even Penn Jillette has said that

00:30:47.500 he's becoming more of an agnostic.

00:30:49.880 He's an atheist, but he's, you know, if, if, if it appeared, you know, um, and you could

00:30:57.860 see it and touch it and feel it, he would, he would change his mind.

00:31:00.600 And that, that, that's the difference I think is, is somebody who's not rock solid in, in

00:31:06.660 anything.

00:31:07.440 You know, I was talking to Peter Boghossian and Penn Jillette.

00:31:10.080 I, and I think you would agree cause you've probably known him longer than I have.

00:31:13.320 He is one of those people that influences you to always question your, your strongest beliefs

00:31:20.180 because he does, I feel like he does that every day.

00:31:23.740 And, and so I like, I've always, when I'm around him, I can change my mind almost like

00:31:31.000 in a second.

00:31:31.600 And it's not because I'm weak.

00:31:32.700 It's because I'm willing to like, think about something I didn't want to think about.

00:31:36.800 Um, he does email me now and again, really he's about Trump.

00:31:40.980 He's really upset about Trump.

00:31:42.940 And I don't, I taught, I, we, we go through this whole thing.

00:31:45.400 He's, I think his experience with Trump on the, the apprentice was like not good because

00:31:50.340 he's, yeah.

00:31:51.620 So I, you know, I, I don't know.

00:31:53.680 I mean, Trump is not the guy.

00:31:57.400 I mean, I wasn't for Trump.

00:31:59.320 Uh, and I thought he would, yeah.

00:32:01.780 And I thought he would be a disaster.

00:32:03.320 And as it turns out, everything that he said he was going to do, he's pretty much done,

00:32:09.600 uh, or at least really attempted to do.

00:32:12.360 Um, and, and everything they, uh, that I thought he would do, he hasn't, I mean, my, the last

00:32:19.360 thing that stood in the way was I said in 2016, the last year, we are going to have some dramatic

00:32:27.180 setback and we're going to go into a depression and that guy will be more FDR than FDR.

00:32:34.720 He didn't do it.

00:32:36.220 He hasn't done it.

00:32:38.240 I mean, so I don't know.

00:32:39.760 Yeah.

00:32:40.340 You know, what's interesting is I said this on the five as a criticism of him.

00:32:45.020 I said, the guy's the most liberal Republican since Rockefeller.

00:32:49.880 And I said that, and I think the liberal lives in the dams have to admit prison reform

00:32:55.780 and I, from a Republican.

00:32:58.180 And also he doesn't mind spending money.

00:33:00.720 He does not mind spending money.

00:33:03.500 No, no, no.

00:33:05.080 He's got, he like, he enjoys it.

00:33:06.540 He enjoys signing the checks.

00:33:07.600 So I, but the thing is, I'm, I was like you, I was, when we had options and on the five,

00:33:11.880 we were so heated on that show during this, I was like super critical.

00:33:17.020 And then when he became president, I had, I erased the slate and I said, okay, I'm going

00:33:22.480 to start over from now on.

00:33:23.700 Just look at the deeds.

00:33:24.980 Look at what he does.

00:33:26.620 Don't, don't, don't keep going over his tweets and let, let everybody else do that.

00:33:30.860 And then you start watching what he's doing.

00:33:32.420 And when he, when he reversed the climate accord, I was like, yes, that was like, okay.

00:33:37.060 He, I go, he's got me.

00:33:39.100 He's got me on that one.

00:33:39.960 And then there was just other things he did.

00:33:41.420 I'm not, I, I think that the prison reform thing was noble and sentimental and, and maybe

00:33:47.460 it was right, but I don't, I don't know if I would have done it, but that's, but the

00:33:51.260 left should be like, you know, um, what's his name on CNN who I really like.

00:33:54.780 Nah, I can't remember his name.

00:33:56.520 Damn it.

00:33:56.900 Who like got a lot of crap for saluting Trump for prison reform and he worked for Obama

00:34:03.060 and I can't think of his name.

00:34:04.380 Van Jones.

00:34:05.120 Van Jones.

00:34:06.420 So Van Jones, a very open-minded, probably the, probably, uh,

00:34:09.960 probably the most interesting person at CNN in my view, because you never know where he's

00:34:13.980 going to zig or zag.

00:34:15.900 And like Penn Jillette always says, he likes people that when you, when you give him two

00:34:20.540 political, like if, if, if you give Penn Jillette two of your political stances, he can't guess

00:34:25.400 a third one.

00:34:26.500 That's what, that's what, uh, Penn Jillette says.

00:34:29.260 And it's like, that's how you judge people.

00:34:31.480 It's like, if I take two of your things and I go, I don't know what he really, I don't know

00:34:35.400 where he would go with this one because these two things are so different.

00:34:38.340 He's for decriminalization, but he's pro-life.

00:34:40.800 Like I'm pro-life in decriminalization.

00:34:43.780 What's the third thing?

00:34:45.320 You know, I don't know.

00:34:47.180 Right.

00:34:49.220 So, uh, is, is Biden going to be the president?

00:34:53.580 I don't know because I think, I think, oh God, I think it's, I think it's going to be Trump

00:34:59.440 just because I cannot, I believe that the silent, we had a, we had a silent majority

00:35:04.300 in 2016.

00:35:05.280 That majority only got bigger because it's more dangerous to say what you're for now.

00:35:10.220 And when, when it's more dangerous to say what you're for, I think you say what you're

00:35:14.540 for silently.

00:35:16.060 But that's, but I mean, I, I was wrong in 2016.

00:35:19.160 I thought that Hillary, that was an amazing night.

00:35:21.680 I thought Hillary was going to walk away with it. 1.00

00:35:23.120 She had that the New York times ticker had it at like 98%.

00:35:26.480 And then I'm sitting at a bar because I'm supposed to work at Fox.

00:35:30.000 I was supposed to be on at midnight and I'm just watching the ticker go down.

00:35:32.960 I go like, this can't be, I don't understand.

00:35:35.100 And I wasn't, I wasn't happy about it because I'd already made my plans.

00:35:40.840 I'd already made my plans based on Hillary.

00:35:43.120 I already knew how, and then all of a sudden that I go like, wow, I go, this is now totally

00:35:48.560 different.

00:35:48.980 And I, and it's, and I didn't, and the only person I know that saw that coming was Scott

00:35:54.440 Adams was like, and it's like, I, and I, and so that's when I started, I started listening

00:35:59.020 to his podcast every day.

00:36:00.540 Cause I go, that guy got this right, you know?

00:36:02.920 And, um, yeah, but I don't know.

00:36:05.360 What do you think?

00:36:06.000 What do you think?

00:36:06.880 Have you, well, I just, uh, you know, I saw a video of, of, uh, Biden get up and in Delaware,

00:36:14.160 uh, welcome people to some nursing home that he used to work at or whatever he was at.

00:36:19.820 And it was terrifying.

00:36:21.840 It was the weirdest thing.

00:36:23.040 He, okay.

00:36:23.440 If you're making a joke about memory loss, which is a problem with you, that's not a

00:36:29.520 joke to make.

00:36:30.200 And it wasn't, I don't think it was a joke.

00:36:32.280 It was weird.

00:36:32.700 It was like, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was befuddlement and it was sad.

00:36:37.500 It was, Greg, it was, it was, he is one step away from driving the lawnmower on the

00:36:45.300 freeway.

00:36:46.300 Yeah.

00:36:46.600 Great movie.

00:36:47.340 That's what happened.

00:36:48.120 That's what, what?

00:36:51.260 There's a movie David Lynch, David Lynch directed about a guy who drives across country on a

00:36:56.620 lawnmower.

00:36:57.640 It's a great film.

00:36:58.480 I can't remember the name.

00:37:00.120 This was my grandfather.

00:37:01.820 Uh, when he started going senile, we took the keys of the car away and he, he's like,

00:37:08.940 I'm not, I'm not senile.

00:37:10.320 I'm not seeing, and we finally found him one day on his riding lawnmower on the freeway.

00:37:15.740 Yeah.

00:37:16.280 Uh, and, and, and that's where this is ending.

00:37:19.160 This, I mean, he is really one step away and I can't believe somebody in the family doesn't

00:37:25.800 just say, Hey, everybody back off my dad.

00:37:30.100 Okay.

00:37:30.560 Yeah.

00:37:30.860 He's clearly slipping.

00:37:32.700 He shouldn't be in front of people.

00:37:34.620 Stop it right now.

00:37:36.280 I, I, it's, it's embarrassing and sad.

00:37:39.080 He has a doctor as a spouse and, you know, I mean, you know, I'm just putting that out

00:37:46.360 there, but you know, um, yeah, but do you know what's interesting?

00:37:50.160 Um, he might be like, he's not that much older than everybody else there.

00:37:56.660 He might make it through, but the VP is going to be the P that if he wins, the VP is the P, 0.86

00:38:03.020 which I think is going to be Kamala Harris. 0.95

00:38:04.680 And I think that he will gracefully bow out in four to six months and everybody's going

00:38:10.140 to, he's going to be a hero to the Dems for winning the election and, uh, and ushering

00:38:15.340 at a Democrat and a young, vibrant, um, woman of color.

00:38:19.320 So it'd be, he, he will be a hero.

00:38:21.400 That's the only way I say it, because I do think, you know, it's interesting.

00:38:24.540 You do see him being treated gingerly by the press, because I think we all feel a little

00:38:30.580 bit sorry for him when it, when these things happen.

00:38:34.560 It's not like, it's like the opposite of Trump.

00:38:36.940 Trump's mistakes are based on energy and energy and pure force.

00:38:41.780 It's like, it's not like he's slow.

00:38:43.100 It's like, he's too fast.

00:38:44.640 And so it's easy to kind of make fun of, but you can't with Biden.

00:38:48.200 It's hard because you know that it's like, we all know people.

00:38:50.520 We all have people in our families, you know, it's our grandparents or our parents.

00:38:55.360 We've watched it and it's, and it's tragically sad.

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00:41:00.840 Let me at least spend a couple of minutes trying to help you sell a book.

00:41:07.380 I'd like talking to you about anything, but yeah, the book is doing great.

00:41:10.780 You know, it's a self-help book, but ask me a question because I'm better at answering

00:41:17.420 them than like talking about the book.

00:41:19.160 All right.

00:41:20.400 So did you spend most of your time drunk on Twitter?

00:41:25.940 Is that because that seems to play a role at the...

00:41:29.320 I did an experiment because I wanted to see if there's a difference between tweets when

00:41:34.200 you're drinking and not tweets, not drinking with tweets.

00:41:37.120 And I found that it's only the only difference is in quantity, not in quality.

00:41:41.060 They're still the same.

00:41:42.560 There's no difference, but I just do more of them, which is the equivalent of saying

00:41:46.660 like, I'm not going to die parachuting unless I keep parachuting over and over again.

00:41:51.480 So it increases your likelihood of losing your job.

00:41:54.620 And the irony is you're not even being paid to do it.

00:41:57.640 And I find that totally stupid.

00:41:59.660 So I realized that I use the Covington kid thing as an example that I was at a bar at brunch

00:42:07.200 on Saturday and I'm watching the thing unfold.

00:42:10.200 And I'm like, when you have a few glasses of wine, you think you're extra clever and

00:42:14.540 you take extra risks.

00:42:15.660 And I'm watching it and I jumped the gun.

00:42:17.700 I go, oh, wow, this kid.

00:42:19.740 And also, you know what played into it?

00:42:21.700 A cynical kind of strategy of like, you know what?

00:42:25.840 If I police my side, then I look better.

00:42:31.280 And I can police it.

00:42:32.240 Like if I slap this little pro-life kid, that shows that I'm even-handed.

00:42:38.780 And the fact is, you know, so I think I said that he needs to go home and be grounded or

00:42:42.780 spanked by his parents.

00:42:43.820 Anyway, I immediately realized I'm wrong.

00:42:45.940 I changed the whole thing.

00:42:46.800 But I left the tweet up because I think you should leave him up.

00:42:48.820 But I wrote about it.

00:42:49.880 I did a monologue on my idiocy.

00:42:51.300 But the whole thing happened because I was, you know, having a glass of, I had something

00:42:55.900 like my third glass of rosé, a very manly drink.

00:43:00.120 And it is.

00:43:02.780 And, but I felt like, so the thing is, and then I, like a couple hours later, I'm going,

00:43:08.360 ah, that was stupid.

00:43:09.100 And I realized I wouldn't, I probably wouldn't have done that if I was sober.

00:43:13.620 That's the answer.

00:43:14.320 Yeah.

00:43:15.240 So, so, but the, the name of the book is The Plus and your, your premise is that you,

00:43:23.080 you want pluses in your life.

00:43:24.660 You want to be adding things to society, not being so negative.

00:43:30.760 Exactly.

00:43:31.280 How are you, how are you doing that with your job?

00:43:36.280 I know.

00:43:36.680 Well, here's the deal.

00:43:37.520 But the, okay, so I, it was, I had been writing a book proposals on cancel culture, on social

00:43:45.380 media, media.

00:43:46.400 I did a proposal on the unbending mind, which are when you run into people that refuse to

00:43:51.420 change their mind.

00:43:51.980 I had all these, these problems, but I had no solution.

00:43:55.540 Meanwhile, I was trying to figure out as I was stepping away from this prison of two ideas

00:44:00.320 and this bifurcated political conflict, what can I do to make stuff better in my life?

00:44:06.660 And, and a lot of it was like, okay, is what I'm about to do a plus or minus?

00:44:11.600 That is the question I will ask before every single thing I do for maybe three weeks, I

00:44:16.920 will sit there and like, before I send off a tweet, is this a plus or minus?

00:44:21.560 It's always almost a minus before I send a snarky email to a coworker.

00:44:25.840 Is that a plus or a minus?

00:44:26.760 If I say, if I'm in a meeting and I want to pop off, is that a plus or minus?

00:44:31.460 Also on the five is what I'm about to say to Jesse a plus or, so I started doing that

00:44:35.660 and now it's ingrained.

00:44:36.520 Now I will say this Glenn, most people might have this already.

00:44:39.860 It's called impulse control, or it might be just plain common sense, but I felt that

00:44:45.760 this, I felt that this was a discipline, a discipline that added a top spin to my decision

00:44:51.600 making.

00:44:51.920 But how do you do that when you also require yourself to tell the truth and just telling

00:45:00.880 the truth in today's world is a minus for about maybe 60% of the population?

00:45:07.260 I wrote this book before the riots.

00:45:11.020 I wrote this book before my entire neighborhood got looted.

00:45:14.240 I live in, I live in downtown New York.

00:45:16.140 Every street in my surrounding area was ravaged.

00:45:20.700 It was assaulted in every single store.

00:45:23.920 There was, and so what happened was I was, so wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, it was just

00:45:27.400 like extra love and peace.

00:45:29.860 Yes.

00:45:30.320 That happened to your, okay.

00:45:32.080 All right.

00:45:32.580 Okay, good.

00:45:33.260 So I'm, I, I tell my wife it's Friday night.

00:45:35.780 I go, Elena, get out of the apartment, meet me up.

00:45:38.840 We have a, we have a little cabin up North.

00:45:41.500 Meet me up there.

00:45:42.060 She goes, no, Greg, I have to go to this birthday party.

00:45:43.920 I have to go to this birthday party.

00:45:44.800 I go, it's like, why do women have so many friends with birthday parties? 1.00

00:45:48.340 We do not go to birthday parties.

00:45:50.300 I go, Elena, I go, Elena, this is way more important than your birthday party.

00:45:54.680 And she goes, Greg, you're overreacting.

00:45:56.880 And I go, well, do me a favor, wherever you're going, just stay there tonight or whatever.

00:46:02.680 Don't come up.

00:46:03.300 Now this was Sunday night.

00:46:04.540 So I'd left on Friday and I was trying to get her to come up.

00:46:07.100 So she said, yes, but she lied to me.

00:46:08.880 She actually came back to the, to the apartment on our street.

00:46:12.820 Every store was destroyed across the street where she was hiding.

00:46:16.640 She was hiding and we had scaffolding.

00:46:18.240 And I think the scaffolding saved us because they didn't see where we lived.

00:46:22.480 So they didn't break any windows.

00:46:23.900 She's watching and across the street, this expensive store is being, she said she counted

00:46:28.380 12 times that they were looted crowds going in and going out like they were shopping.

00:46:32.940 It was like being at an outlet store, people hitting.

00:46:34.920 So my point is I'm writing this, I'm writing this affirmational positive book and I am in

00:46:41.520 the lowest point of my life.

00:46:43.080 I, there's nothing positive I can say.

00:46:45.100 I went out and I bought a gun for the first time in my life.

00:46:48.340 I went, bought a, uh, uh, geez, what's the name of the 1301 tactical Beretta shotgun.

00:46:55.300 Um, it's not for trap shooting, Glenn.

00:46:58.520 And I, and I, but now the good, the positive is that I'm taking lessons.

00:47:02.980 So I go up and I learn, I've, I've had three lessons in the last month, uh, on how to shoot

00:47:08.240 a shotgun.

00:47:09.000 And, and, uh, I know that that sounds to get lessons, but when you're a city boy like me

00:47:13.740 who can't run a dishwasher, it's important that I, I, uh, so my, so I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm

00:47:19.540 trying to just remember, just remember when you load the shotgun, you, you load, uh, you

00:47:26.180 load shot, then slug, then shot, then slug.

00:47:31.820 That's the way to make sure nobody's messing with you.

00:47:34.020 Tell me why I don't get it.

00:47:34.980 Okay.

00:47:35.360 So you, you loan a, you, when you have a shotgun, you load it with a shot.

00:47:40.200 So it, it has a big spread, but then your next shot is a slug.

00:47:45.560 So you, and you do a rotate like that, uh, for, for home protection.

00:47:51.420 Um, so your wife, um, I mean, did she know you were gay when you got married?

00:47:59.140 Oh, because of my gun?

00:48:00.680 My gun?

00:48:01.520 Okay.

00:48:02.140 I'm going to tell you a funny story.

00:48:03.120 No, because, no, because people have said about you for a long time, they speculated that

00:48:07.460 you were gay because you came out for gay rights, et cetera, et cetera. 0.87

00:48:11.220 You're not gay. 0.86

00:48:12.220 Um, and she's, she's a Russian model. 0.99

00:48:16.480 I mean, yes, uh, you're practically a real man's Donald Trump.

00:48:22.000 Donald Trump would not have a brick wall behind him.

00:48:24.420 Uh, it would be a gold brick wall.

00:48:26.860 Exactly.

00:48:27.680 Exactly.

00:48:28.180 With little Fabergé eggs.

00:48:29.600 Oh, um, Elena, like Elena was a, um, was the photo editor for Maxim in Moscow when I met

00:48:36.840 her and I was the editor in chief of, uh, British Maxim and we met on my first day of the job

00:48:41.260 and her hotel room was next to mine.

00:48:43.160 And I was like, Ooh, who is this person?

00:48:45.480 And then, uh, and then we, I'm not gonna, it took me three days to like convince her to

00:48:51.800 even talk to me, but she already knew who I was because Maxim, Maxim used to buy all

00:48:56.500 my articles from men's health and, and other, uh, other publications.

00:49:00.140 So they knew who I was.

00:49:01.780 I just didn't know that they knew who I was.

00:49:03.580 So we had our first date in Paris and then three months later I proposed, but you, you

00:49:08.440 know what the thing is, I always got the, um, I don't know why I got the, the, the gay 1.00

00:49:13.620 thing other than the fact that I have almost no interest in talking sports.

00:49:19.900 And, uh, I'm trying to think of what, like, I don't know what the, the, the cliched stereotypes

00:49:25.260 are for being called gay, but I always took it as a compliment because it's like, I don't

00:49:31.840 know what, I don't really know what it was.

00:49:35.060 I think, I think it usually was used as a, as derogatory, which is also really gross because

00:49:40.940 it's always liberals.

00:49:41.960 Right.

00:49:42.600 You know, it was just really weird.

00:49:43.920 It's like, where did, so now, now it's okay.

00:49:46.400 But anyway, um, yeah, she was very disappointed to find out I was not dead.

00:49:50.560 Like, so, uh, is she, cause she was born when, after the Berlin wall came down, I think.

00:49:58.840 So is she, so, yeah, 81.

00:50:02.480 Okay.

00:50:02.780 So, so, okay.

00:50:03.760 So she was aware of the Berlin wall and what life was like, is she seeing things happening

00:50:08.620 here that are concerning to her?

00:50:12.000 Yes.

00:50:12.740 Um, but okay.

00:50:14.360 There are two, there are two sides to this.

00:50:15.720 She thinks I'm overreacting to what's happening around us because she's seen worse.

00:50:21.840 So she came from a communist country and she believes that America is the greatest country

00:50:27.700 ever and the freedom that she has.

00:50:29.800 And she loves new, she's lived in cities.

00:50:31.620 She loves New York, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:50:33.460 And then, um, but then there's another thing which she doesn't understand the preoccupation

00:50:40.340 with race, um, and division.

00:50:43.320 And she says, like, Elena, who's like, she's, I don't want to get into what she does for

00:50:48.460 a living or anything like that.

00:50:49.660 She goes, like, I work with all sorts of people.

00:50:53.240 None of these questions ever come up.

00:50:55.520 And she goes, she doesn't, and I go, like, I know, Elena, I go, I, this is a, this is a

00:50:59.900 phenomenon that happens to be in many ways, media and academia generated and, and pop culture

00:51:08.400 generated.

00:51:08.840 It's critical, it's critical theory.

00:51:11.220 It's Marxism, critical theory.

00:51:13.140 I mean, it just, it's just a way to take us apart, but it's not the Marxism.

00:51:16.500 She knows it's, it's our Marxism.

00:51:20.240 It's our, it's our academic Marxism.

00:51:22.820 Isn't it crazy that we are living at a time where Marxism is being preached on the street?

00:51:29.160 The guy who is in the Oval Office is the ultimate capitalist, but he's married to a Russian whose 0.96

00:51:37.700 father was part of the Communist Party and nobody even recognizes that.

00:51:44.100 Maybe.

00:51:44.420 It's crazy.

00:51:45.540 Is Slovenia, I guess, is she Slovenian and that's part of it?

00:51:49.160 Or am I, I can't remember.

00:51:50.580 Yeah, no, it was behind the, she was behind the Iron Curtain.

00:51:53.300 And her father was, was a party chief in whichever country she was from and, and, and was a hardcore

00:52:02.680 communist.

00:52:03.540 She's not, but he was, and nobody's even recognizing that she's an immigrant.

00:52:10.320 She's an immigrant. 1.00

00:52:11.340 We just elected a black guy whose name sounded like the guy we were all trying to kill. 0.99

00:52:17.540 And, and then we elect another guy who's married to somebody who was, whose father was in the

00:52:25.200 Communist Party, our biggest enemy before we had the enemy that we were currently trying

00:52:29.820 to kill.

00:52:30.520 It's crazy.

00:52:32.120 It's crazy.

00:52:33.580 I think it's, but it does say, it does say how incredibly open-minded we are.

00:52:39.100 And so it works, it works against all the criticisms ever.

00:52:44.320 It's crazy.

00:52:45.400 But I think if you read my book, you'll feel a lot better.

00:52:48.100 Read my, you know, I think the book will change.

00:52:50.520 It'll make you feel so much.

00:52:52.200 You'll just calm you down.

00:52:53.760 Look what it's done to me, Glenn.

00:52:55.220 I'm so calm.

00:53:01.200 First of all, is that a real brick wall or as a comedian, do you have to have a fake brick

00:53:06.200 brick wall?

00:53:07.000 That's real.

00:53:07.420 This is my, I do have, I do have the prop guitar.

00:53:11.560 I've been learning guitar in, uh, in the, uh, so, uh, Greg, it's always good to, always

00:53:19.160 good to talk to you.

00:53:20.180 Uh, the name of the book is the plus, uh, by Greg Gutfeld and, and, uh, co-host of the

00:53:25.520 five.

00:53:26.460 You're, you're great.

00:53:27.720 And, uh, I have a question.

00:53:29.620 One question for you.

00:53:30.160 Will you do the GG show?

00:53:31.420 If I asked you, if I, I'm publicly asking you, uh, uh, yeah, you're allowed to, right?

00:53:39.240 Do I have to check?

00:53:40.300 Well, let me ask, let me ask me.

00:53:42.840 Can I do that?

00:53:43.700 Yes.

00:53:44.020 Okay.

00:53:45.060 I'm done.

00:53:46.180 I'm going like that.

00:53:47.220 I'm like, oh yeah.

00:53:47.940 Cause everybody that doesn't like you at Fox is gone now.

00:53:50.700 So everything's okay.

00:53:54.540 I'm shifting.

00:53:55.900 I'm shifting.

00:53:57.260 There's still people that want to, there's a lot of, there's still a lot of people that

00:54:00.640 want to.

00:54:01.560 All right.

00:54:02.440 Thank you.

00:54:03.000 I appreciate that.

00:54:05.280 Greg, God bless.

00:54:06.720 Uh, talk to you again.

00:54:07.660 Thank you, buddy.

00:54:07.980 Thanks so much.

00:54:08.500 Just a reminder, I'd love you to rate and subscribe to the podcast and pass this on to a friend

00:54:19.660 so it can be discovered by other people.

The Glenn Beck Program - August 01, 2020

Ep 76 ｜ 'I Consider Myself the Ellen of the Right' ｜ Greg Gutfeld ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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