Ep 76 ｜ 'I Consider Myself the Ellen of the Right' ｜ Greg Gutfeld ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast
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Summary
Greg Gutfeld is a man of disruption. He is a conservative commentator on Fox News and host of The Five, and co-host of The Greg Gutfeld Show on the Fox News Channel. Greg is also the author of a self-help book.
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In 2003, Greg Gutfeld was the editor-in-chief at Stuff Magazine, and when he heard that
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he had to attend a seminar on the theme, What Gives a Magazine Buzz, he called a local
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Editors from all the major magazines in the country, including Rolling Stone, Glamour,
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He instructed the three dwarf actors to be excessively loud, to eat potato chips as their
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phones rang and rang until they loudly accepted the call.
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The stunt pretty much got him fired, but that's who he is.
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For the last decade and a half, you can find Greg on Fox News, weekdays as a co-host of The
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Five, and Saturdays, The Greg Gutfeld Show, which is consistently outranking every single
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one of Greg's late-night talk show rivals on CBS, NBC, and ABC.
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Before that, he was a staff writer at Prevention, then editor-in-chief at Men's Health, then editor-in-chief
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Trust me, you don't want him setting his sights on your hypocrisy and public failings.
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Best of all, he makes you laugh when he does it.
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Satire is the weaponization of humor, a tactical fusing of comedy and politics.
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Add the media into this mix, and you've got the potential for something especially powerful
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Satire involves adding judgment and attack to humor.
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Political satire blends journalism into the mix, adding a sense of authority to the humor.
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Not only is he political, he's libertarian, performing his satire on Fox News.
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Saturday Night Live creator Lorne Michaels has said,
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Saturday Night Live lambass Republicans more because Democrats tend to take it personally
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His satire and commentary have never been more important than they are right now.
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which aired late night on Fox TV from 2007 to 2015.
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It's a cult classic of the notoriously liberal late night comedy genre.
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Lately, the left is all too happy to ruin all the fun for everybody with their constant
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Not only are left-leaning audiences unable to laugh at themselves,
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they're unable to laugh at a growing list of topics that they now deem offensive.
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Of course, there's a difference between offensive and unfunny.
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It's one thing to dislike a joke because you find it unfunny.
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But the progressive argument against humor is instead they consider it offensive.
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Please welcome Greg Gutfeld to the Glenn Beck podcast.
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So, Greg, out of all of the people that I worked with,
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you were the last person that I thought would write a self-help book.
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I am the last person I would think would write a self-help book, which is why I did it.
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And the irony of this, Glenn, is that I kind of started out this way when I was working
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I was writing health advice for middle-aged to elderly people at the age of 25,
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drinking every night and doing God knows what else, smoking a media pack today.
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So, now I'm almost a little old lady, but a man.
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I feel like I've accumulated so much wisdom that I can actually share it with people.
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And it would be a crime, Glenn, if I kept it inside me.
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I mean, I went on and I just, I did, I did a great show and did what I, you know, do best.
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And when I got out, I realized not everybody took it that way.
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Uh, and it was, it was so divisive when I didn't intend it to be divisive.
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Are you kind of going through the same thing to where you being in cable news and you're
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seeing the divisiveness and you're just like, I don't want to be a part of any of this.
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Well, I'm, I've always tried to be kind of above, uh, the prison of two ideas or the,
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or the, uh, the team sport politic where like you're, um, either pro environment or you're
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I believe you can be for nuclear power and be pro environment.
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So this prison of two ideas is what the news does to us.
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It puts us in these places where it's like, um, I'm for, you're either for law and order
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No, I'm actually for law and order and peaceful protests.
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So, so, so, so it's like, what happens is you're always constantly fighting this, this,
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this weird beast that wants to put you in these boxes and then set you loose to attack.
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And I've always been, I think, you know, ever since red eye and, and I've always been trying
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to be above that, but sometimes you just get sucked back into it.
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I was just thinking about when you were talking about your show, I will never forget the episode
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when you drenched Bill Schultz with water, pretending it was gasoline.
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You originally had asked me to be the person and I wisely, wisely backed away.
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Bill Schultz is going to be on the Glenn Beck show.
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And he gets on there and you have, you have like a gas and I think it's still, I think
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it's still online, but I want to compliment, can I compliment you on something?
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I think the way your show was shaped is going to be kind of a future for education online,
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which is that you take somebody who's charismatic, who's educating you as opposed to school teachers
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who are people sitting, we need to marry a talent of persuasion with knowledge of books
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And I think that the way that the show was built, I always think about the idea of how
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You know, I don't do Peloton because the seat hurts my ass so badly.
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It does hurt, but I get used to, you know, it's funny.
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I can get used to this about, but you know what?
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The thing is, the reason why Peloton is so great is that they took the gym and brought
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it into your home through the use of charismatic, talented performers.
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Imagine taking the school into your home using talented performers.
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And it's like, whether it's you or Jordan Peterson, I'm trying to think of people that
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like an Eric Weinstein to talk about math, Brett Weinstein to talk about biology, and
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you to talk politics, me to talk about nothing because I have no expertise.
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And yet, and yet you have a top 10 bestselling book and you have nothing at all to say.
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Do you think having a top 10 book right now is the same as it was like five years ago or
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If I can just sell 10 books, Glenn, I think I'm number eight on Amazon, right?
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I remember to be number one, you'd have to sell, you know, a million books.
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When I first got in, it took a million to be able to make an impression.
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Now they're like four people that are reading books.
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And, you know, if one of them is on vacation, I don't know what happens to the list.
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By the way, the one way to beat this is just to be Mary Trump or anybody with a Trump book.
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Like who, I don't know a single person, maybe I'm in a bubble, but I don't know a single
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I know people who got it for free, but I don't know anybody.
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The book comes out, poo, and then it just like floats away into the ether and waiting for
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I tell you, there's a, there's something about time that is, that has happened where.
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Like, didn't the primaries feel like that was, I don't know, a decade ago.
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There's something about time where everything is so accelerated.
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So if you didn't have time, like, let's say time didn't exist, then everything in the
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Uh, Abraham Lincoln would be shot in a theater, uh, while, uh, we land on the moon.
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The reason why things are happening, it feels like this is because Trump has accelerated
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So it feels like everything is happening at once.
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So like yesterday he, he ran through like 17 topics and everybody's like scribbling and
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And it's like, and all these reporters are exhausted.
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They didn't have to work this hard under Obama because they liked him, but they got to work
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They got to work super hard for this orange Godzilla.
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But the thing is the orange Godzilla has compressed events into time.
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It's like a, it's like a, how you turn, you turn coal into a diamond.
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No, you don't have a job with De Beers in your future either.
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Uh, so, uh, so, uh, do you think it's, do you think it's him or, I mean, I'm watching
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stuff Greg now that I, I mean, I couldn't believe the stuff that was being said and done,
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This has, this has become, uh, there I'm, you're, you're being asked to deny what, you
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know, to deny your eyes, you know, this peaceful protest thing, they're on the streets, the
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city is burning behind them and they're saying, eh, it's another peaceful protest.
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And they do this stupid bait and switch thing where they go, like, uh, whenever you're talking
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about the police, you know, like they'll always go, you know, this is about freedom of
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And they go, yeah, that's why the police are there.
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Yeah, but they're attacking peaceful protesters.
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But to your point, we're being told to deny things that we see because they don't like
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So it's like, like if CNN believes that they, these should be peaceful protests because they're,
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I hate to use the word gaslighting because it's so overused, but the liberal media, and
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I hate saying liberal media, doesn't that sound very 2005?
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The liberal, you know, uh, Glenn, this liberal media, this liberal media is, is behind all of
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this, uh, Barack Hussein Obama and the liberal media, but it's, uh, it's, it's, it's, they
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And the only thing I think is that maybe they believe it.
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Like maybe Brian Stelter really does believe the stuff that he's doing, which is, that's
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the cognitive dissonance that we, I think that, I think you and I have kind of gone on
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the same path of understanding cognitive dissonance and how it changes and affects the way you look
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at things that are the filters in which you, which allows you to realize when you're wrong.
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And it's a very freeing thing to admit when you're wrong.
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It's like skydiving or, or, uh, jumping off a cliff into a tiny pond.
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But that's, uh, uh, if you hit the water, I guess that's a good thing.
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Most times you wonder if you're going to hit the little tiny pond.
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Um, but it is, it is, you know, I, uh, in 2016, I reached out when all of these journalists
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I mean, you know, maybe, I mean, how could we be this wrong?
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And they all said that they wanted to find out what was really going on.
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I, I, I mean, I saw the, the, uh, Bill Barr hearings.
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It was, uh, you know, put a cardboard cutout of him.
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And he, and he, and you, and so then you watched the press.
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I was watching Stephanie rule on MSNBC saying like, what can we do to Bill Barr for his like
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They were actually accusing him of talking over specifically the women he's talking over.
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Like, did you see how we treated them with disrespect?
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And there were no people of color in his staff.
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So the cognitive dissonance, they watched everything that we watched and they can't see what we
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Instead, they saw, they saw an arrogant, mean criminal.
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Stephanie rule was like saying something like, what can we do to punish him?
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You're watching a witch trial in which instead of, of siding with the lone individual that
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came voluntarily, they were siding with the posse.
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And it's weird how, but how similar that hearing was to what you see in Portland, which is the
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So, so they yell and they scream and they have horns and they drown out any, all voices.
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Because honestly, I mean, I've always had belief in the American people, but the American
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I'm, I'm, I'm thinking that maybe in November they're going to, you know, just quietly go to
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Um, but what we are, when you have, when you have doctors being told, don't you dare prescribe
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this medicine, even though it, it'll work for some, it won't work for everybody.
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There's so many, there's so many pieces to this.
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Number one, Donald Trump complimenting something is the reverse of the good housekeeping seal
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So if he had said hydroxychloroquine is bad and I would never take it, it would be the
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They hate it because he liked it, but then they demand that he endorse masks.
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Wouldn't you want him not to endorse masks since you didn't want him to endorse the drug?
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It is crazy that they are everything they accuse him of.
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They're doing, you can watch the, you can watch them in their press conferences now and
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they'll say, Donald Trump is doing this or Donald Trump is setting this up.
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Uh, I'm watching the people behind you build the machine right now.
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Another, another great example is the, uh, uh, the fact that he allowed the states to decide
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So they should now, but they call him like, how dare he just not dictate the absolute plan?
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Well, if he had done that, you would have called him an autocrat.
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So to your point, like how America seems like they're very low key.
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I, I do think that maybe we are closer to the fire than America is.
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They're still like politics isn't part of their entire life.
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Social justice warriors, it's all their life, but maybe there's 10,000 of them.
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My solution is always that we need to share the risk.
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That means even somebody that you don't like is getting canceled.
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I've done that every single time I see somebody getting canceled.
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That person might not do it for you, but it doesn't matter.
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But the other thing though, is like, okay, there's two schools of thought.
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Share the risk, forgive, be, do the right thing.
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And I always get in fights with the guys at Breitbart, mutually assured destruction.
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They will not cancel you if you can cancel them.
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And I, but I don't want to, I, I, it's like, I don't want to play the game, but I do realize
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that if somebody goes to your place of work on Twitter and says, I want Glenn Beck fired
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from PG and E, you should be able to find out where that person works and do the same thing
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Now sharing the risk, which is the altruistic way, makes it costly for the counselor.
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The mutually assured destruction strategy makes it even more costly.
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The question is whether you want to go that route.
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Well, you know, I, I've, I've, I've been the same with you.
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Uh, but if you read Martin Luther King, he said, if it wasn't for boycotts, it wouldn't
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I mean, so, you know, he was a believer in that as well.
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And it's like, I don't want to mess with your life.
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But when your enemy is, you know, doing what they're doing, I mean, when they are going
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And I can't believe that people like Ellen, what the hell?
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I mean, I consider myself the Ellen of the rights and I just think I'm dead, but I, so
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I want to tell you, I think you're going to like that.
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I think you're going to like this and you're welcome to use it, Glenn, anytime you want.
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I believe that cancel culture is the first ever workaround on the first amendment, because
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remember when people would, we would talk about freedom of speech and they go, well,
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the first amendment guarantees you the freedom of speech.
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It's like, well, no, actually the freedom of speech doesn't protect me from my career
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being ruined and my livelihood destroyed or me getting so depressed that I commit suicide.
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The cancel culture is the first successful workaround of freedom of speech.
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It can suppress your speech under the threat, the scepter.
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The only people who do are social justice warriors.
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Well, here's, here's what's really frightening, Greg, I think is that they, they have, what'd
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Um, the, the, the problem is the one thing I don't think the founder saw was corporations
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And so the constitution doesn't work for anything.
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If the state is, is subservient to tech because that's the public square.
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I mean, it's, it's over, it's over and get this and get this.
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They, if, if the corporation that you work for all powerful, they have to virtue signal
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They have to do everything that is demanded upon them by the diversity committees that
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they hire and everything, because they don't, it's not worth it to them to get into a tussle
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So if, uh, Greg Gutfeld says something like all lives matter or blue or, or, or where's
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a, uh, a blue, blue live, blue lives matter, they would rather just fire you and pay you
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off than actually share the risk and support you because to them as a corporation, it's
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more profitable if they just genuflect or kneel before the altar of social justice, which
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is why you see so much, uh, bizarre, bizarre rhetoric, uh, in corporations.
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Now, when you see admission statements, you know, it's, it's like, this doesn't mean anything
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and it helps no one, you know, no one I'd, I'd like to have the CE I'd like the CEOs of
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these giant corporations to tell me what they as a corporation have done.
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I want them to make a public confession because they're like, oh, we've got, we've really
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Meanwhile, he traps everybody in the corporation with some social justice warrior who is making
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everybody cry and say how bad of a white person there are.
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I'm, by the way, I'm okay with charity fund runs, fundraisers, all that good stuff, blood
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giving blood, all the company stuff that they used to do.
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But now it's become, um, it's become a protective machinery because the corporation itself has
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So they need, this is now a thing that protects them, but not you.
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And they will like, by the way, I'm not, I'm not in any way talking about Fox, Fox, Fox, you
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know, we'll stay like, believe me, they come after, we won't get into that.
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I'm, I'm not in the same position you are, or Dave Rubin or Joe Rogan or Adam Carolla,
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You guys cannot be canceled because you are your own thing.
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I, you know, Fox supports me and I, I really believe that they support me.
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Uh, all the people that I met, Shapiro, all of you guys like, and I, and I put my, I put
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my toe in that, in that water, but I liked working at a company cause I had these shows
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and it was fun, but the putting like getting into that pond.
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Or that ocean and, and making your own Island seems to be the only way to survive this.
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So it's really funny because, um, Dave, you know, Dave has connected with the blaze, Ben
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and I do a lot of stuff together and we talk all the time.
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Nobody is anymore because the, the algorithms, they, they change the algorithms and our audience
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I mean, it's amazing how, yeah, they can, they can just make you invisible.
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They just deperson you, you look at, you look at what gab, look at what gab did, what gab
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You're going to get dirt bags on when you say any speeches, you're going to get dirt bags
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They have been, they have, the company has been demonetized, been shut out, lost its platform.
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And now MasterCard and visa are going after the owners of gab personally, depersonal depersoning
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So that's, that's, that's, now that's new to me is that they can actually go after the
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So even as an autonomous business person, they can, they can screw you, screw with your
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Just like, because the, no, the banks are now getting involved and it's a lot of it
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He started doing this with the gun manufacturers and the gun stores.
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So now they're just doing it to anybody who is, they don't like, if you say things that
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they don't like, they're not going to do business with you.
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I mean, it's, it's really terrifying if this doesn't come back around and get back into control.
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So there's, there's always this thing where like, well, you know what?
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People don't understand that like that network, when a network is built, everybody just uses
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And it's like, so you're watching Parler, which is a noble adventure.
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And I love Dan Bongino, but when you have something that like, if all your friends are
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on Facebook or all your friends are on Twitter or all your friends use MasterCard, you're not
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going to, can you start your own conservative credit card company?
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But it's like, it seems like you are, there's no way other than, I don't know what you do.
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I mean, I honestly, I thought about it this, this summer was some smarter people than me.
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And, and we think the only company or the only organization that could do it possibly,
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Hey, the NRA has enough members where they could say, we're going to an establish, we're
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And if you want to get out of the system, it's the NRA credit card, et cetera, et cetera.
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But then they have to go to the stores and convince those stores to take that credit card,
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That it'll, they'll immediately be targeted and they'll fold like, you know, any, any
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I was thinking, I thought you were going to say something like Peter Thiel and PayPal,
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because he's definitely one of the, one of the exceptions in all of this.
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He's, I think he's on the, I think he's on the scale.
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I mean, I think he's, I think he's one of those guys who is so bright.
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And so he's, he's just on the, he's just on the scale.
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So what I, I, he turned me on to, when I was listening to, I watched YouTube.
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He's a kind of a Catholic philosopher, French philosopher.
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And so Peter Thiel was talking, I think to Peter Robinson and uncommon knowledge.
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And I started like listening to these lectures and it is really amazing how it's, how he predicted.
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It's all, it's all about scapegoating and what happened to Christ.
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And it's, it's an interesting thing because I'm agnostic, but it was like, I, I'd never,
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No one ever taught me this about the, the meaningful, the, the meaning of scapegoating,
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And I went to 12 years of Catholic school and I got that.
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I got that through Peter Thiel being interviewed by somebody else.
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It's pretty, it's anyway, that was an aside that I was thinking of when I just, I just thought
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You know, I saw, I saw that you, um, uh, described yourself as a agnostic atheist, which if that's
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It, it, it means you don't believe there is a God, but I don't know, right?
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It was like something, it was something that was, uh, given to me.
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In fact, if somebody said, Oh, you're an agnostic atheist in an interview and that got picked
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up by Wikipedia, there's things in, as you know, in Wikipedia that aren't, aren't about
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you or are true, but I've, I've never actually uttered agnostic atheists.
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You know, I talk, I, I've talked about it on the shows about simulations.
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And if you start thinking about simulations, the fact that this could be a simulation,
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It's just in a different con it's in a different context, but it's always going to be that like
00:30:21.280
If, if there is this, this, uh, creator, then what created that?
00:30:25.360
And it keeps, and could there something just always be there?
00:30:28.560
So it, to me, being an atheist, being an atheist is a waste of time because it's blocking
00:30:35.020
you from thinking about these amazing things that then open up little portals, you know?
00:30:41.140
I, I, some of the smartest people I know, um, uh, I think even Penn Jillette has said that
00:30:49.880
He's an atheist, but he's, you know, if, if, if it appeared, you know, um, and you could
00:30:57.860
see it and touch it and feel it, he would, he would change his mind.
00:31:00.600
And that, that, that's the difference I think is, is somebody who's not rock solid in, in
00:31:07.440
You know, I was talking to Peter Boghossian and Penn Jillette.
00:31:10.080
I, and I think you would agree cause you've probably known him longer than I have.
00:31:13.320
He is one of those people that influences you to always question your, your strongest beliefs
00:31:20.180
because he does, I feel like he does that every day.
00:31:23.740
And, and so I like, I've always, when I'm around him, I can change my mind almost like
00:31:32.700
It's because I'm willing to like, think about something I didn't want to think about.
00:31:36.800
Um, he does email me now and again, really he's about Trump.
00:31:42.940
And I don't, I taught, I, we, we go through this whole thing.
00:31:45.400
He's, I think his experience with Trump on the, the apprentice was like not good because
00:32:03.320
And as it turns out, everything that he said he was going to do, he's pretty much done,
00:32:12.360
Um, and, and everything they, uh, that I thought he would do, he hasn't, I mean, my, the last
00:32:19.360
thing that stood in the way was I said in 2016, the last year, we are going to have some dramatic
00:32:27.180
setback and we're going to go into a depression and that guy will be more FDR than FDR.
00:32:40.340
You know, what's interesting is I said this on the five as a criticism of him.
00:32:45.020
I said, the guy's the most liberal Republican since Rockefeller.
00:32:49.880
And I said that, and I think the liberal lives in the dams have to admit prison reform
00:33:07.600
So I, but the thing is, I'm, I was like you, I was, when we had options and on the five,
00:33:11.880
we were so heated on that show during this, I was like super critical.
00:33:17.020
And then when he became president, I had, I erased the slate and I said, okay, I'm going
00:33:26.620
Don't, don't, don't keep going over his tweets and let, let everybody else do that.
00:33:32.420
And when he, when he reversed the climate accord, I was like, yes, that was like, okay.
00:33:41.420
I'm not, I, I think that the prison reform thing was noble and sentimental and, and maybe
00:33:47.460
it was right, but I don't, I don't know if I would have done it, but that's, but the
00:33:51.260
left should be like, you know, um, what's his name on CNN who I really like.
00:33:56.900
Who like got a lot of crap for saluting Trump for prison reform and he worked for Obama
00:34:06.420
So Van Jones, a very open-minded, probably the, probably, uh,
00:34:09.960
probably the most interesting person at CNN in my view, because you never know where he's
00:34:15.900
And like Penn Jillette always says, he likes people that when you, when you give him two
00:34:20.540
political, like if, if, if you give Penn Jillette two of your political stances, he can't guess
00:34:26.500
That's what, that's what, uh, Penn Jillette says.
00:34:31.480
It's like, if I take two of your things and I go, I don't know what he really, I don't know
00:34:35.400
where he would go with this one because these two things are so different.
00:34:49.220
So, uh, is, is Biden going to be the president?
00:34:53.580
I don't know because I think, I think, oh God, I think it's, I think it's going to be Trump
00:34:59.440
just because I cannot, I believe that the silent, we had a, we had a silent majority
00:35:05.280
That majority only got bigger because it's more dangerous to say what you're for now.
00:35:10.220
And when, when it's more dangerous to say what you're for, I think you say what you're
00:35:16.060
But that's, but I mean, I, I was wrong in 2016.
00:35:19.160
I thought that Hillary, that was an amazing night.
00:35:21.680
I thought Hillary was going to walk away with it.
00:35:23.120
She had that the New York times ticker had it at like 98%.
00:35:26.480
And then I'm sitting at a bar because I'm supposed to work at Fox.
00:35:30.000
I was supposed to be on at midnight and I'm just watching the ticker go down.
00:35:35.100
And I wasn't, I wasn't happy about it because I'd already made my plans.
00:35:43.120
I already knew how, and then all of a sudden that I go like, wow, I go, this is now totally
00:35:48.980
And I, and it's, and I didn't, and the only person I know that saw that coming was Scott
00:35:54.440
Adams was like, and it's like, I, and I, and so that's when I started, I started listening
00:36:06.880
Have you, well, I just, uh, you know, I saw a video of, of, uh, Biden get up and in Delaware,
00:36:14.160
uh, welcome people to some nursing home that he used to work at or whatever he was at.
00:36:23.440
If you're making a joke about memory loss, which is a problem with you, that's not a
00:36:32.700
It was like, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was befuddlement and it was sad.
00:36:37.500
It was, Greg, it was, it was, he is one step away from driving the lawnmower on the
00:36:51.260
There's a movie David Lynch, David Lynch directed about a guy who drives across country on a
00:37:01.820
Uh, when he started going senile, we took the keys of the car away and he, he's like,
00:37:10.320
I'm not seeing, and we finally found him one day on his riding lawnmower on the freeway.
00:37:19.160
This, I mean, he is really one step away and I can't believe somebody in the family doesn't
00:37:39.080
He has a doctor as a spouse and, you know, I mean, you know, I'm just putting that out
00:37:46.360
there, but you know, um, yeah, but do you know what's interesting?
00:37:50.160
Um, he might be like, he's not that much older than everybody else there.
00:37:56.660
He might make it through, but the VP is going to be the P that if he wins, the VP is the P,
00:38:04.680
And I think that he will gracefully bow out in four to six months and everybody's going
00:38:10.140
to, he's going to be a hero to the Dems for winning the election and, uh, and ushering
00:38:15.340
at a Democrat and a young, vibrant, um, woman of color.
00:38:21.400
That's the only way I say it, because I do think, you know, it's interesting.
00:38:24.540
You do see him being treated gingerly by the press, because I think we all feel a little
00:38:30.580
bit sorry for him when it, when these things happen.
00:38:34.560
It's not like, it's like the opposite of Trump.
00:38:36.940
Trump's mistakes are based on energy and energy and pure force.
00:38:44.640
And so it's easy to kind of make fun of, but you can't with Biden.
00:38:48.200
It's hard because you know that it's like, we all know people.
00:38:50.520
We all have people in our families, you know, it's our grandparents or our parents.
00:38:55.360
We've watched it and it's, and it's tragically sad.
00:38:59.360
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00:41:00.840
Let me at least spend a couple of minutes trying to help you sell a book.
00:41:07.380
I'd like talking to you about anything, but yeah, the book is doing great.
00:41:10.780
You know, it's a self-help book, but ask me a question because I'm better at answering
00:41:20.400
So did you spend most of your time drunk on Twitter?
00:41:25.940
Is that because that seems to play a role at the...
00:41:29.320
I did an experiment because I wanted to see if there's a difference between tweets when
00:41:34.200
you're drinking and not tweets, not drinking with tweets.
00:41:37.120
And I found that it's only the only difference is in quantity, not in quality.
00:41:42.560
There's no difference, but I just do more of them, which is the equivalent of saying
00:41:46.660
like, I'm not going to die parachuting unless I keep parachuting over and over again.
00:41:51.480
So it increases your likelihood of losing your job.
00:41:54.620
And the irony is you're not even being paid to do it.
00:41:59.660
So I realized that I use the Covington kid thing as an example that I was at a bar at brunch
00:42:10.200
And I'm like, when you have a few glasses of wine, you think you're extra clever and
00:42:21.700
A cynical kind of strategy of like, you know what?
00:42:32.240
Like if I slap this little pro-life kid, that shows that I'm even-handed.
00:42:38.780
And the fact is, you know, so I think I said that he needs to go home and be grounded or
00:42:46.800
But I left the tweet up because I think you should leave him up.
00:42:51.300
But the whole thing happened because I was, you know, having a glass of, I had something
00:42:55.900
like my third glass of rosé, a very manly drink.
00:43:02.780
And, but I felt like, so the thing is, and then I, like a couple hours later, I'm going,
00:43:09.100
And I realized I wouldn't, I probably wouldn't have done that if I was sober.
00:43:15.240
So, so, but the, the name of the book is The Plus and your, your premise is that you,
00:43:24.660
You want to be adding things to society, not being so negative.
00:43:31.280
How are you, how are you doing that with your job?
00:43:37.520
But the, okay, so I, it was, I had been writing a book proposals on cancel culture, on social
00:43:46.400
I did a proposal on the unbending mind, which are when you run into people that refuse to
00:43:51.980
I had all these, these problems, but I had no solution.
00:43:55.540
Meanwhile, I was trying to figure out as I was stepping away from this prison of two ideas
00:44:00.320
and this bifurcated political conflict, what can I do to make stuff better in my life?
00:44:06.660
And, and a lot of it was like, okay, is what I'm about to do a plus or minus?
00:44:11.600
That is the question I will ask before every single thing I do for maybe three weeks, I
00:44:16.920
will sit there and like, before I send off a tweet, is this a plus or minus?
00:44:21.560
It's always almost a minus before I send a snarky email to a coworker.
00:44:26.760
If I say, if I'm in a meeting and I want to pop off, is that a plus or minus?
00:44:31.460
Also on the five is what I'm about to say to Jesse a plus or, so I started doing that
00:44:36.520
Now I will say this Glenn, most people might have this already.
00:44:39.860
It's called impulse control, or it might be just plain common sense, but I felt that
00:44:45.760
this, I felt that this was a discipline, a discipline that added a top spin to my decision
00:44:51.920
But how do you do that when you also require yourself to tell the truth and just telling
00:45:00.880
the truth in today's world is a minus for about maybe 60% of the population?
00:45:11.020
I wrote this book before my entire neighborhood got looted.
00:45:16.140
Every street in my surrounding area was ravaged.
00:45:23.920
There was, and so what happened was I was, so wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, it was just
00:45:35.780
I go, Elena, get out of the apartment, meet me up.
00:45:42.060
She goes, no, Greg, I have to go to this birthday party.
00:45:44.800
I go, it's like, why do women have so many friends with birthday parties?
00:45:50.300
I go, Elena, I go, Elena, this is way more important than your birthday party.
00:45:56.880
And I go, well, do me a favor, wherever you're going, just stay there tonight or whatever.
00:46:04.540
So I'd left on Friday and I was trying to get her to come up.
00:46:08.880
She actually came back to the, to the apartment on our street.
00:46:12.820
Every store was destroyed across the street where she was hiding.
00:46:18.240
And I think the scaffolding saved us because they didn't see where we lived.
00:46:23.900
She's watching and across the street, this expensive store is being, she said she counted
00:46:28.380
12 times that they were looted crowds going in and going out like they were shopping.
00:46:32.940
It was like being at an outlet store, people hitting.
00:46:34.920
So my point is I'm writing this, I'm writing this affirmational positive book and I am in
00:46:45.100
I went out and I bought a gun for the first time in my life.
00:46:48.340
I went, bought a, uh, uh, geez, what's the name of the 1301 tactical Beretta shotgun.
00:46:58.520
And I, and I, but now the good, the positive is that I'm taking lessons.
00:47:02.980
So I go up and I learn, I've, I've had three lessons in the last month, uh, on how to shoot
00:47:09.000
And, and, uh, I know that that sounds to get lessons, but when you're a city boy like me
00:47:13.740
who can't run a dishwasher, it's important that I, I, uh, so my, so I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm
00:47:19.540
trying to just remember, just remember when you load the shotgun, you, you load, uh, you
00:47:31.820
That's the way to make sure nobody's messing with you.
00:47:35.360
So you, you loan a, you, when you have a shotgun, you load it with a shot.
00:47:40.200
So it, it has a big spread, but then your next shot is a slug.
00:47:45.560
So you, and you do a rotate like that, uh, for, for home protection.
00:47:51.420
Um, so your wife, um, I mean, did she know you were gay when you got married?
00:48:03.120
No, because, no, because people have said about you for a long time, they speculated that
00:48:07.460
you were gay because you came out for gay rights, et cetera, et cetera.
00:48:16.480
I mean, yes, uh, you're practically a real man's Donald Trump.
00:48:22.000
Donald Trump would not have a brick wall behind him.
00:48:29.600
Oh, um, Elena, like Elena was a, um, was the photo editor for Maxim in Moscow when I met
00:48:36.840
her and I was the editor in chief of, uh, British Maxim and we met on my first day of the job
00:48:45.480
And then, uh, and then we, I'm not gonna, it took me three days to like convince her to
00:48:51.800
even talk to me, but she already knew who I was because Maxim, Maxim used to buy all
00:48:56.500
my articles from men's health and, and other, uh, other publications.
00:49:03.580
So we had our first date in Paris and then three months later I proposed, but you, you
00:49:08.440
know what the thing is, I always got the, um, I don't know why I got the, the, the gay
00:49:13.620
thing other than the fact that I have almost no interest in talking sports.
00:49:19.900
And, uh, I'm trying to think of what, like, I don't know what the, the, the cliched stereotypes
00:49:25.260
are for being called gay, but I always took it as a compliment because it's like, I don't
00:49:35.060
I think, I think it usually was used as a, as derogatory, which is also really gross because
00:49:46.400
But anyway, um, yeah, she was very disappointed to find out I was not dead.
00:49:50.560
Like, so, uh, is she, cause she was born when, after the Berlin wall came down, I think.
00:50:03.760
So she was aware of the Berlin wall and what life was like, is she seeing things happening
00:50:15.720
She thinks I'm overreacting to what's happening around us because she's seen worse.
00:50:21.840
So she came from a communist country and she believes that America is the greatest country
00:50:31.620
She loves New York, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:50:33.460
And then, um, but then there's another thing which she doesn't understand the preoccupation
00:50:43.320
And she says, like, Elena, who's like, she's, I don't want to get into what she does for
00:50:49.660
She goes, like, I work with all sorts of people.
00:50:55.520
And she goes, she doesn't, and I go, like, I know, Elena, I go, I, this is a, this is a
00:50:59.900
phenomenon that happens to be in many ways, media and academia generated and, and pop culture
00:51:13.140
I mean, it just, it's just a way to take us apart, but it's not the Marxism.
00:51:22.820
Isn't it crazy that we are living at a time where Marxism is being preached on the street?
00:51:29.160
The guy who is in the Oval Office is the ultimate capitalist, but he's married to a Russian whose
00:51:37.700
father was part of the Communist Party and nobody even recognizes that.
00:51:45.540
Is Slovenia, I guess, is she Slovenian and that's part of it?
00:51:50.580
Yeah, no, it was behind the, she was behind the Iron Curtain.
00:51:53.300
And her father was, was a party chief in whichever country she was from and, and, and was a hardcore
00:52:03.540
She's not, but he was, and nobody's even recognizing that she's an immigrant.
00:52:11.340
We just elected a black guy whose name sounded like the guy we were all trying to kill.
00:52:17.540
And, and then we elect another guy who's married to somebody who was, whose father was in the
00:52:25.200
Communist Party, our biggest enemy before we had the enemy that we were currently trying
00:52:33.580
I think it's, but it does say, it does say how incredibly open-minded we are.
00:52:39.100
And so it works, it works against all the criticisms ever.
00:52:45.400
But I think if you read my book, you'll feel a lot better.
00:52:48.100
Read my, you know, I think the book will change.
00:53:01.200
First of all, is that a real brick wall or as a comedian, do you have to have a fake brick
00:53:07.420
This is my, I do have, I do have the prop guitar.
00:53:11.560
I've been learning guitar in, uh, in the, uh, so, uh, Greg, it's always good to, always
00:53:20.180
Uh, the name of the book is the plus, uh, by Greg Gutfeld and, and, uh, co-host of the
00:53:31.420
If I asked you, if I, I'm publicly asking you, uh, uh, yeah, you're allowed to, right?
00:53:47.940
Cause everybody that doesn't like you at Fox is gone now.
00:53:57.260
There's still people that want to, there's a lot of, there's still a lot of people that
00:54:08.500
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