The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 80 ｜ 'Weak Liberals Have Enabled Evil to Triumph' ｜ Dennis Prager ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

00:00:00.000 In the beginning, the universe was silent, cloaked in darkness.

00:00:10.140 It must have been so peaceful back before the scrawny punks in the black block, you know, started shouting about dreadlocks, maple syrup. 0.99

00:00:18.660 They're all racist. Oh, in the beginning, those people weren't there. 0.99

00:00:22.540 But as the hysteria of 2020 grows louder and more volatile, a few things keep me going.

00:00:28.360 Family, comedy, justice, democracy, truth, Chick-fil-A.

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00:00:39.020 All of which are currently under attack now by bloodthirsty leftist mobs, anarchist radicals who have launched our country into a deep moral turbulence.

00:00:48.960 Would you be surprised if we were at civil war in three months?

00:00:53.400 Today's guest on the Glenn Beck podcast is the unshakable Dennis Prager.

00:00:58.760 For the past few decades, Dennis has challenged the left's most dangerous narratives.

00:01:04.060 He has fought the left's worst depravity and worsening depravity.

00:01:10.120 And he's turned 72. I used to think 72 is old.

00:01:14.460 Now I'm like, go, brother, go.

00:01:17.400 He's just as vigorous as ever.

00:01:19.400 He is a professional lion tamer in the world of political media.

00:01:25.780 He just like opens up the lion's mouth.

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00:01:31.540 And it doesn't affect him.

00:01:32.820 Like me, many Americans, sometimes he is hopeful.

00:01:38.440 Sometimes he's one breath away from feeling irreversibly defeated and faithless.

00:01:44.800 Faithless might not be the right word.

00:01:47.280 Discouraged.

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00:03:57.180 Dennis, I want to start with probably your biggest regret, which has to be you started

00:04:15.100 Prager University as a non-profit organization.

00:04:20.020 Oh, that's funny.

00:04:21.620 You know, nobody has asked me that.

00:04:24.780 That's very perceptive.

00:04:26.540 It was actually Alan Estrin, whose idea it was, did want to start it as a for-profit

00:04:33.620 originally.

00:04:35.140 Uh-huh.

00:04:35.720 And you said no.

00:04:36.720 And we, we, it's, yeah, I didn't think it was a good idea in part because I didn't

00:04:44.920 believe it would make a profit.

00:04:48.360 Not in part.

00:04:50.080 It was like entirely why.

00:04:51.740 It's like, yeah, I was up for the Harrison Ford role in Star Wars.

00:04:55.420 I turned it down.

00:04:56.480 Yeah, yeah, that's right.

00:04:58.700 So even the smartest among us sometimes have.

00:05:01.660 No, no, no.

00:05:02.220 Well, you have to understand.

00:05:03.680 No, no, no.

00:05:04.100 Glenn, you're going to like this because you're, you are a, a God-centered man.

00:05:08.700 So here is my theory on what happens before we're born.

00:05:12.080 There are any number of cues, as the Brits would say, or lines, as we would say in America,

00:05:19.560 that you could stand in.

00:05:20.840 So, for example, when, when God gave gardening ability, I was not in that line.

00:05:26.900 Right.

00:05:27.220 Yes.

00:05:27.340 But there was a very much more important line I was not in, and that was financial acuity.

00:05:34.460 No, no, I'm not joking.

00:05:35.860 No, I know.

00:05:37.300 I don't know how to make money.

00:05:40.380 So it has, I've always felt that if I could buy all the books, have the audio system I want

00:05:47.560 and live in a nice house, I am wealthy.

00:05:49.480 I never assumed having money made me wealthy, just having these perks that I want, which 1.00

00:05:55.900 was stupid. 1.00

00:05:56.620 It was completely stupid. 1.00

00:05:58.260 But this, you have hit the perfect example of, of my lack of financial acumen. 1.00

00:06:05.640 So, but it doesn't, I mean, I do what I do and I don't do it for money.

00:06:10.860 It's, it's nice that I can live in a nice house and I have a nice life, but I don't do

00:06:14.740 it for the money.

00:06:15.260 And, and I know you don't do it for the money either.

00:06:19.480 Um, what did you expect Prager University to be?

00:06:25.200 Well, so again, uh, I'm very, uh, I am very, the word I'm using is transparent.

00:06:33.820 Uh, somebody on my radio show, I think it was a few, a few months ago, just said, you

00:06:40.320 know, uh, we call you Mr. Transparent.

00:06:45.200 And I thought that's correct.

00:06:47.320 That's good.

00:06:47.700 Uh, at a very early time in my radio career, I thought, why should I hide anything about

00:06:53.780 me?

00:06:54.780 The, the more real I am to people, the more effective I'll be.

00:06:58.660 And it was a gamble and it worked.

00:07:01.080 So, so I'll be very transparent here.

00:07:04.560 I'm very lucky at a very early age.

00:07:07.420 I know exactly what I wanted to do with my life.

00:07:10.360 I wrote it in my diary in my junior year in high school.

00:07:14.280 I want to influence people to the good.

00:07:16.640 I wrote that in my diary at the age of 17.

00:07:19.780 And, uh, therefore, when you ask, uh, you know, what I, what I foresaw with regard to PragerU,

00:07:28.420 uh, all, all I want is to touch people with the wonderful set of values that I think are

00:07:36.140 the answer to evil.

00:07:37.260 I, I, I have felt since high school that I had a cure for moral cancer and I knew the

00:07:44.480 only problem in my life would be marketing it.

00:07:48.080 And I, I, I was right.

00:07:49.680 I, I understood at 17, the issue, the issue was not, do I have a cure for evil?

00:07:55.700 It is, how do I get it to enough people?

00:07:59.300 You have led an amazing life.

00:08:01.420 You, you were there for the Helsinki Accords, uh, with Ronald Reagan. 0.54

00:08:06.300 Um, I mean, I was just a dopey, just a dopey kid, probably, uh, in my college years, uh, you

00:08:16.560 know, still figuring out how to, you know, buy milk and make macaroni and cheese on my own.

00:08:22.220 And there you are at the Helsinki Accords.

00:08:25.680 What, what do you remember from that?

00:08:28.120 What was, well, I, uh, I knew that communism was evil.

00:08:35.480 Like I knew Nazism was evil.

00:08:37.640 Uh, I claim, I, I take credit in the, in the sense that I know that I have this gift.

00:08:47.640 I don't take credit for the gift.

00:08:49.420 Right.

00:08:49.560 I, I know good and evil, like a person with perfect pitch knows what an A flat or an E flat

00:08:56.800 is.

00:08:57.940 And I've known this my whole, I know it in people that I meet.

00:09:01.020 That's why I have virtually never been personally hurt by a person in my life.

00:09:07.880 Wow.

00:09:08.460 I, I detect crap so quickly that it, it, it, it would, it, it doesn't explain our friendship 0.98

00:09:18.260 then I may be the first to fool you. 0.98

00:09:20.940 Yes, you're, you're cracking, you're cracking me up.

00:09:22.940 If you turned out to be a bad guy, I will, I will, I will then advertise.

00:09:29.320 I was, I want all your great wealth.

00:09:33.880 You sitting there in an office looking like Mr. Potter from, from, uh, it's a wonderful

00:09:39.380 life.

00:09:40.380 Um, so, so tell me.

00:09:42.260 So anyway, I knew communism was evil.

00:09:44.680 Yeah.

00:09:45.200 And I, uh, and of course I knew Nazism was evil, but Nazism was dead and communism wasn't

00:09:51.340 dead.

00:09:51.660 Right.

00:09:52.160 Communism is not dead.

00:09:53.380 Now.

00:09:53.780 Communism is now making its, uh, first serious, uh, inroads into the United States.

00:10:00.440 So, uh, for, I don't, I don't know how it happened, but my name was, uh, uh, given to

00:10:07.480 the president then at that time, Reagan, uh, I was, let's see, what year would that have

00:10:12.520 been?

00:10:12.940 So yes, he was president, uh, from 82, uh, it was probably 86, somewhere in that area.

00:10:21.180 So I was in my, I was in my late thirties.

00:10:24.680 Okay.

00:10:24.980 So, yeah, so it was a, it was a great honor that he would have picked me that they do is

00:10:30.240 they take two non diplomats to be a part of the delegation.

00:10:36.620 So I went to Vienna, uh, the Helsinki accords were the human rights accord signed with the

00:10:42.980 Soviet union, which of course was a joke to the Soviets, but was not a joke to people who

00:10:48.900 wanted to be free in Eastern Europe.

00:10:51.220 Right.

00:10:51.620 I had spent a lot of time in Eastern Europe and the Soviet union.

00:10:55.480 I knew Russian.

00:10:56.880 Oh, I had, I had, I had a, uh, a discussion with the Soviet diplomats one day.

00:11:01.960 I'll never forget where, uh, I, I just said to them, you know, uh, we, we can print whatever

00:11:10.200 we want, uh, in, in America, in our media, including criticizing our government.

00:11:15.780 And he says, Oh, your magazines are, are just as much a part of your government as, as any

00:11:23.980 of ours.

00:11:24.420 And anyway, we print whatever we believe.

00:11:26.380 I mean, it was, it was like talking to a leftist in America today.

00:11:30.580 Wow.

00:11:30.920 It was pointless to argue.

00:11:33.520 Uh, but, uh, it's, it was, it was a great experience.

00:11:37.920 It was more of an honor.

00:11:39.440 I didn't, I didn't do much for the country in Vienna, but the country did a lot for me.

00:11:43.980 Did, are you, how does it feel having that conversation then with what you knew was evil?

00:11:53.420 And while we, we had a free press, it still was, um, you know, it still was a push to the,

00:12:02.840 to the left, but it isn't what we have now with the cancer, cancel culture and everything

00:12:07.860 else.

00:12:08.160 What, what do you, what are your thoughts on being there then seeing that evil?

00:12:12.440 And now we have it now it's over here and gaining in strength.

00:12:19.360 Right.

00:12:20.560 Well, you will find this very interesting, Glenn.

00:12:24.900 Uh, I'm often asked, you know, what have I, I'm sure you're asked to, what have you changed

00:12:32.680 your mind about as you've gotten older?

00:12:35.680 So here is a revelation that came to me in the last, really, I would say in the last four years

00:12:43.500 that shocked me.

00:12:45.380 And it's, I think a pretty unshockable because I don't have much expectation of humanity.

00:12:52.780 And, uh, it is this, I, I studied Russian in order to be able to read Pravda, the Soviet

00:13:00.780 communist newspaper, not in order to be able to order a tuna sandwich and not, not in order

00:13:06.260 to be able to read Dostoevsky.

00:13:08.220 I, I was at the school of international affairs at Columbia.

00:13:11.440 I had only interest in, and by the way, to this day, I could say the Soviet union condemns

00:13:17.400 the Israeli aggressors against the peace loving people of the Arab countries.

00:13:21.220 I could say that in perfect Russian, but I cannot say, can I have a tuna sandwich?

00:13:26.220 So that's the joke, I have Pravda Russian, it's really, it's really a joke.

00:13:33.080 Anyway, I was convinced that, uh, the ability of the media to brainwash a, a society depended

00:13:45.720 upon living in a police state.

00:13:47.700 Uh, so, uh, Dennis, you, you see it, you have a good judge and you know, James Lindsay is

00:14:08.720 the mathematician, uh, did, uh, worked with Helen Pluckrose.

00:14:14.700 I can't remember the name of the third guy.

00:14:16.880 Um, and they did the, um, they did the white papers where they just took the mind comp and

00:14:23.100 put white males instead of Jews and then had it submitted to peer reviewed.

00:14:29.700 I have not seen that.

00:14:30.800 Oh, you have to, they're incredible.

00:14:32.600 You're right.

00:14:32.780 And there, and they are people that are all liberals, they're liberals, um, but they're

00:14:38.000 more classic liberals now.

00:14:39.800 And they have, they tried to show that the university system and the, the peer reviewed

00:14:46.540 system is nonsense.

00:14:48.260 I mean, they, they wrote a paper and it was peer reviewed and published that taking your 0.78

00:14:54.400 dog to the dog park, if your dog, uh, tries to make it with another dog, that's dog rape. 0.92

00:15:01.300 And it was peer reviewed, um, and accepted. 0.71

00:15:06.040 It's crazy.

00:15:07.240 Anyway, uh, I talked to him about a year and a half ago and he said, you know, I'm very

00:15:12.440 concerned about things.

00:15:14.240 Uh, but he wasn't over the top.

00:15:17.340 I just did a podcast with him a couple of weeks ago and, uh, he said a couple of things

00:15:24.100 that were really interesting to me.

00:15:25.540 One, he's, he's an agnostic, I think at best.

00:15:31.160 And I said, you know, I've tried to stay away from the word evil over the last five years

00:15:36.920 because I think we overuse it.

00:15:39.140 But I look at what's happening in our country and how it's being dismantled and the lies

00:15:43.860 that are being told through critical theory.

00:15:46.200 And there's no other word to describe it, but evil.

00:15:50.920 He agreed.

00:15:52.020 He said, you know, me, I don't like that word.

00:15:54.840 I don't like any of the theology around it or anything else.

00:15:57.760 He said, but that is the only word that can describe it.

00:16:02.360 And I asked him for a look into the future and, uh, it wasn't a real optimistic one.

00:16:11.660 He wasn't sure if we make it.

00:16:14.240 So let me ask you two questions.

00:16:16.920 America has been overtaken by something.

00:16:20.960 Is it evil that we're all feeling?

00:16:23.640 And how do you see this moving forward?

00:16:28.100 Oh, it is evil.

00:16:29.520 I don't, I don't have a hesitation.

00:16:33.000 The word should not be overused, but no word should be overused.

00:16:37.960 Even the word awesome, you know, you, you, you know, you, you, uh, you order, you know,

00:16:47.200 something in the restaurant and the server goes, oh, awesome.

00:16:50.740 Yeah.

00:16:51.480 You know, awesome.

00:16:53.920 But so no word should be overused.

00:16:56.560 But yes, the left has always been evil.

00:17:00.040 Liberals are not evil. 0.97

00:17:01.380 Liberals are weak, which enables, uh, enables, uh, evil to triumph.

00:17:07.840 But liberalism and leftism have almost nothing in common. 0.97

00:17:12.300 That liberals will not acknowledge this is because they have been, uh, brainwashed.

00:17:20.000 And I can't think of a better word into believing that their enemy or their conservatives, whereas their enemy is the left.

00:17:26.980 As Alan Dershowitz said to me in the movie, uh, no safe spaces, one could see it in his apartment in Manhattan.

00:17:34.280 Uh, he said, uh, Dennis, uh, as a liberal, lifelong liberal, lifelong Democrat, American, a Jew, I am far more afraid of the left than, than of the right, which is exactly how I feel.

00:17:50.280 I, I, I'm much more afraid of the left in America.

00:17:52.960 I would, in Germany, the right, the right over in Europe.

00:17:56.780 And this is where it always gets confusing the right over in Europe.

00:17:59.600 It's just a different, it's like a train track.

00:18:01.900 One is national socialism and one is global socialism.

00:18:05.860 You don't want either of them here.

00:18:08.180 Our left is, um, maximum.

00:18:11.780 I'm sorry.

00:18:12.220 Our right is maximum freedom.

00:18:14.600 And as close as you can get to anarchy without it, uh, indeed, maximum liberalism, we really do.

00:18:23.080 We don't want to close down left wing thought, right?

00:18:27.200 Well, they want to close us down for good reason.

00:18:30.040 A, the left has never been pro-liberty, never from Marx to Lenin to Soros, uh, to, uh, to the, the contemporary democratic party and your local university.

00:18:43.140 The left has never been pro-liberty.

00:18:46.380 French revolution versus American revolution is your, is your classic example. 1.00

00:18:51.540 The liberals have always been for liberty, but liberals are useful idiots to the left. 0.98

00:18:56.860 And the left uses every group, but that, that, if you want to ask me about that, that's fine afterwards. 0.99

00:19:02.400 So yes, to your first question, yes, it is evil to destroy the greatest country that has ever been made.

00:19:10.140 And remember, unlike the left, I compare America to other countries, not to utopia.

00:19:16.220 They compare, that's why their favorite song is John Lennon's Imagine.

00:19:20.260 They imagine a world where everything is perfect.

00:19:24.720 I never imagined that.

00:19:26.820 You know, here's the irony.

00:19:28.140 I tell my fellow Jews, most of whom are on the left, if there's any group that should be afraid

00:19:34.380 of what happens when civilization gets weakened, it's us Jews, because the, the building first

00:19:42.740 falls on us.

00:19:43.860 When, when the, when the pillars of civilization crumble, Jews get hit first, never last, but 1.00

00:19:51.320 always first. 0.95

00:19:52.100 So this is that, that Jews would be pro-left is, is not only morally awful, it is suicidal. 0.98

00:20:01.760 But listen, Americans are committing suicide right now by voting left. 0.97

00:20:07.000 I mean, they're just the way around.

00:20:08.620 Your other question was with regard to optimism and where do I see this going?

00:20:12.660 Yeah.

00:20:12.780 Uh, I ask me, ask me after election day, uh, if, if the, if the left, which is now the

00:20:20.520 democratic party, it's no longer liberal.

00:20:22.680 If the left takes over both houses of Congress and the presidency, it is, uh, I, I cannot see

00:20:28.940 reason for optimism.

00:20:30.560 However, I just want to make something clear as I have to my listeners for quite some time

00:20:35.200 now.

00:20:35.740 I don't fight based on whether I'm optimistic or not.

00:20:39.240 The guys who stormed Normandy beach were not optimists.

00:20:42.780 If they were, they wouldn't be peeing in their pants as depicted very powerfully in, uh, in

00:20:48.820 saving private Ryan.

00:20:50.560 Uh, I, I don't fight because I'm an optimist.

00:20:53.560 I fight because I have to.

00:20:56.140 It's true.

00:20:56.520 Uh, the, the, the, the guys who fought for Liberty and America before me were asked to

00:21:02.640 give up their lives.

00:21:03.380 I'm not asked to give up my life, but so the least I could do is fight while I'm living.

00:21:07.900 So, uh, I don't, I don't really ask myself, am I optimistic?

00:21:11.880 I asked myself, what do I have to do?

00:21:15.100 So, you know, Dennis, I was with, um, I was with one of the righteous among the nations.

00:21:22.060 Um, and I've told the story a thousand times.

00:21:25.400 Uh, she was a woman, 16 years old.

00:21:28.000 She started saving Jews, uh, from Auschwitz.

00:21:30.800 She was in Poland.

00:21:31.960 Uh, then, uh, then the iron curtain came.

00:21:34.620 She couldn't speak about it because nothing really had changed with the Russians coming 1.00

00:21:38.500 in.

00:21:39.340 She wasn't open about any of it until the wall came down.

00:21:42.420 And I took my family to visit her and to learn from her.

00:21:45.880 And the, one of the last things she said, uh, when I said, the tree of righteousness is

00:21:52.000 in everyone, how do you water it?

00:21:54.560 And she looked at me and she said, you misunderstand the righteous didn't suddenly become righteous.

00:22:00.960 They just refuse to go over the cliff with the rest of society.

00:22:05.100 Um, that I understand more every single day, the courage that it takes to hide a Jew, to 0.96

00:22:16.720 hide anyone, um, doesn't happen if you don't have the courage and the backbone to stand right

00:22:25.200 now and say, no, that's not true.

00:22:27.680 I'm not, I'm not going to go down.

00:22:28.960 I'm not going to go down that road with you.

00:22:31.280 Um, tell me, tell me how people.

00:22:36.100 Grow, um, in courage.

00:22:40.000 How do you water that?

00:22:43.200 Well, number one, I mean, you know, which is typical of you to ask these perceptive questions.

00:22:48.320 Uh, the, the number one, I have said all of my life, the rarest of the good traits is

00:22:55.520 courage.

00:22:56.000 Uh, there, there are many nice people, kind people, honest people, loyal people, but there

00:23:03.780 are very few courageous people.

00:23:05.300 And the problem is all the good traits are worthless without courage. 0.99

00:23:11.160 Nice cowards are as dangerous as evil cowards. 0.98

00:23:15.500 So, uh, cowardice is the human norm. 1.00

00:23:20.360 This is explain that.

00:23:21.740 Can you explain that?

00:23:23.320 Yeah, sure. 0.98

00:23:24.260 The, it, it takes no effort to be a coward that comes with your nature. 0.61

00:23:29.920 We're all afraid.

00:23:32.580 Uh, I think I'm courageous, but, uh, it doesn't mean I don't have fears.

00:23:37.180 It means I don't allow them to dictate what I do.

00:23:40.500 Mm-hmm.

00:23:41.640 Uh, uh, no, I've given a speech actually how to be courageous.

00:23:45.600 It's a, it's a, it's, it's at the, the Prager store.com.

00:23:49.680 Uh, I'm not trying to make money.

00:23:51.320 Oh, yes, you are.

00:23:52.200 Man, that guy will bilk you for every dime. 0.90

00:23:54.160 Yeah.

00:23:54.540 Look out.

00:23:55.660 He's, he's crafty.

00:23:57.100 Yeah.

00:23:57.580 I wish I were.

00:23:58.340 I wish I were crafty.

00:23:59.740 As I said earlier.

00:24:00.920 But anyway, people should know I, I did, I gave a speech on it.

00:24:04.060 A very, uh, people were asking me because a lot of people would like to become courageous.

00:24:09.000 The first thing you have to do is want to be courageous.

00:24:13.980 You can't be courageous.

00:24:15.400 It's not, it's not by magic.

00:24:17.080 It's like, how do I play piano?

00:24:20.460 Well, the first thing you have to do is want to play piano.

00:24:23.340 Mm-hmm.

00:24:24.140 And then you practice playing piano.

00:24:25.940 So you want to be courageous and then you practice being courageous.

00:24:29.900 So, uh.

00:24:30.340 How do you practice that in small ways?

00:24:31.980 Okay.

00:24:32.300 I'll tell, I'll tell you how.

00:24:33.420 Okay.

00:24:33.940 They're, they're, they're, it's a very important question.

00:24:36.780 And I'll tell you some of the ways.

00:24:39.420 One way is that you, you ask yourself, this is a, just a practical question.

00:24:45.640 What is the worst that could happen to me?

00:24:48.040 So let's say you speak out on your, on your social media and you send a, a Glenn Beck blaze

00:24:56.580 piece.

00:24:57.640 Okay.

00:24:58.160 Mm-hmm.

00:24:58.460 Thoughtful.

00:24:59.260 You're, the blaze is terrific, by the way.

00:25:00.980 I read it every day.

00:25:01.700 And so you send that out to friends, just, I would just, uh, respectfully request you

00:25:09.480 read this.

00:25:10.720 People won't do it because they're afraid.

00:25:13.400 But what are you afraid of?

00:25:14.720 That you'll be de-friended?

00:25:16.380 Why do you want to be friended by people who are so awful as to de-friend you because you

00:25:22.940 sent an article they don't agree with?

00:25:24.440 Would you do that?

00:25:25.580 I wouldn't.

00:25:26.540 Right.

00:25:26.900 If somebody in my life, a relative or, or an acquaintance or even a friend sent me an

00:25:32.960 article from moveon.org, uh, or this, or the, the equivalent, the New York times, uh,

00:25:40.080 I would read it.

00:25:41.240 I probably already did read it because I actually read the New York times because for the same

00:25:46.580 reason I read Pravda, I want to know what the other side says.

00:25:49.960 Wow.

00:25:50.680 Uh, and, uh, so, uh, the first thing you have to do is ask, what is the worst that could happen?

00:25:56.080 Now, if the worst that could happen is if you save a Jew and the Nazis find you, they'll 0.99

00:25:59.880 kill you. 0.99

00:26:00.900 That that's, I don't judge people who didn't rescue Jews in the Holocaust. 0.99

00:26:04.800 I judge people who participated in snitching on Jews, but that, that people did not risk 1.00

00:26:10.920 their lives to save a stranger.

00:26:12.820 I don't expect that much from most human beings, but in America to stand up to the left, your,

00:26:19.300 your, your life isn't threatened.

00:26:20.680 Maybe friends will befriend you, uh, de-friend you, but okay.

00:26:25.740 So when you ask what's the worst that could happen, that could already begin to give you

00:26:30.260 courage.

00:26:30.620 Number two, you have to not want to be liked by everyone.

00:26:35.140 People should seek, this is really important.

00:26:38.900 You should seek to be loved only by your spouse and your friends.

00:26:45.680 That's it.

00:26:47.280 You cannot do any other thing in life.

00:26:49.780 Well, if you seek to be loved, you will not be a good teacher.

00:26:52.680 You will not be a good leader.

00:26:54.180 You will not be a good talk show host.

00:26:55.900 You will not even be a good parent.

00:26:57.760 If a parent wants to be loved every day of their lives, they will not be a good parent.

00:27:03.020 You should seek to be loved by your spouse and your friends.

00:27:07.280 That's your peers.

00:27:08.260 That's it.

00:27:10.860 So James, I think it was James said to me, um, Glenn, you have to say the first thing

00:27:19.460 you have to do, everybody needs to draw a line.

00:27:22.400 They need to know where's your line because it'll continue to move.

00:27:26.920 If you don't say, you know what?

00:27:29.980 They crossed this line and that's just too much for me.

00:27:32.340 Um, and if you don't know it and don't set it, but as we were talking, they've already

00:27:38.580 crossed so many, I mean, you know, but I'm speaking out others are not what lines are

00:27:44.640 left here, Dennis, to get people to be able to say, okay, that's a reasonable line that

00:27:50.360 if they cross this, I got to stand up.

00:27:52.720 That's a really excellent point.

00:27:54.700 I didn't make it in my speech.

00:27:56.260 I would, I would have added it had you, had you told it to me earlier.

00:28:00.320 That's a, that's right.

00:28:02.360 I'll, so I'll give you a living example.

00:28:04.100 I get this call or email periodically, if not regularly, Dennis, what do I tell my daughter?

00:28:12.700 She's at college.

00:28:14.020 And she said to me, mom, if I write what I think, meaning not, not leftist, uh, I will

00:28:22.740 get a bad grade.

00:28:24.060 So I say to the parent and I've said so often, I sort of have it memorized and I say, look,

00:28:31.000 I can't tell you what to tell your child, but you're asking me.

00:28:33.800 So I can only tell you this, this is what I would say as the non-parent to your child.

00:28:40.380 If you compromise on what you believe for a grade, when will you not compromise on what

00:28:49.300 believe, boy, that's an indictment.

00:28:55.140 I mean, I'm just reviewing, you know, well, it's, it, it's a challenge more than an indictment.

00:29:02.240 You, you have to say to yourself what you just said, Glenn, where is my line?

00:29:08.820 Okay.

00:29:09.100 So I, I shut up and, and, and be one of the herd for a grade.

00:29:14.760 When will I not shut up and be one of the herd grades are not that important.

00:29:20.680 Livelihood is more important than grades just to give an example.

00:29:24.920 So when, when will you, when will you take a stand if you don't take a stand in college

00:29:30.540 for a bloody grade?

00:29:33.040 Hmm.

00:29:35.780 Uh, I'll, I'll tell you, uh, Dennis, and I, I'm sure you've gone through this, but there

00:29:41.300 was a point in my career where right before I left Fox that I knew if I didn't leave, I

00:29:48.900 would not leave with my soul.

00:29:51.140 And, and, and this is why there comes a point to where you've convinced yourself that you,

00:29:57.820 uh, have influence and you now are positioned to be able to do things that you couldn't do

00:30:05.700 before.

00:30:06.860 And, uh, yeah, there's some compromises that you have to make, but you know, compromise

00:30:11.640 is a part of life, et cetera.

00:30:13.260 And I was so, um, shook to the center of my being.

00:30:20.900 You don't leave.

00:30:22.980 You start wanting this.

00:30:25.620 You start saying, well, I know, but we, you're done.

00:30:29.640 You're done.

00:30:30.480 You lose your soul.

00:30:31.380 Well, I could give you a parallel you'll find fascinating.

00:30:37.700 In the 1990s, I had a national TV shows on all over the country.

00:30:41.340 I remember you do.

00:30:43.520 I do.

00:30:43.980 I actually, I'm one of the 11 Americans.

00:30:46.780 Remember, right.

00:30:48.020 I've met nine of the others.

00:30:49.660 Yeah.

00:30:49.960 Yeah.

00:30:50.420 We're, we're having a convention, a get together.

00:30:52.800 Yes.

00:30:53.180 That's right.

00:30:53.480 In my bathroom.

00:30:54.580 So, uh, the, uh, one day they come to me cause you know, on TV, there are ratings every

00:31:04.300 day.

00:31:04.600 I'm like radio, you know, once every 14 years.

00:31:07.500 So, uh, they came to me, the producers and they said, uh, Dennis, you know, uh, it's a

00:31:15.880 great show.

00:31:16.300 And it was a great show as it happens.

00:31:18.120 Uh, but it doesn't matter.

00:31:20.780 The, uh, they said, we got to spice it up though, which meant sex.

00:31:26.340 Now you have to understand I have very libertarian views on consensual sex, just for the record.

00:31:32.260 However, I knew I wasn't given my gifts by God or by nature, but I think by God, but doesn't

00:31:41.420 matter, I wasn't given the gifts I have in order to have, uh, semi nudity on a national

00:31:49.080 television show, which is what they wanted.

00:31:51.380 They wanted, uh, lingerie models to come on the show. 0.99

00:31:54.700 That would have been so weird.

00:31:57.700 Well, yes, essentially that's right.

00:32:00.060 So interestingly, by the way, I, I said, I will allow it once I drew my line, but I will

00:32:11.060 not be with the models, which I never saw them as it happens.

00:32:14.420 Number two, uh, it was people from Frederick's of Hollywood, which, you know, has lingerie

00:32:20.260 and stuff, which I'm totally support such industries.

00:32:23.100 That's fine.

00:32:24.420 But, uh, I will talk to them intellectually about the issue of sex between, you know, between

00:32:32.120 couples, sexual titillation, which are very legitimate subjects for serious discourse.

00:32:38.100 I allowed it once.

00:32:39.940 It was the highest rated of my shows and I never, and I said, that was it.

00:32:45.080 I said to you once, but that is it.

00:32:47.500 And, and, and of course, ultimately the show lasted a grand total of six months.

00:32:52.580 Uh, but I felt as you were just describing, I am not in media to be in the media.

00:33:01.000 I am in it to do good.

00:33:03.320 If I can't do good, I have no interest in being so, but that's, that's a problem now,

00:33:08.520 Dennis, because, uh, you know, they used to accuse people like us.

00:33:12.640 We're only saying these things for ratings and for money.

00:33:15.000 Well, people are saying these things now for likes and friends on Facebook.

00:33:19.940 Um, you know, our audience has an audience.

00:33:24.100 So now everyone is in the same boat and there seems to be this, this love affair with, uh,

00:33:32.960 with fame and, uh, and being liked, which I think fame is battery acid to the soul.

00:33:40.380 It is the fame and fortune, the combination of the two, the most destructive thing to any

00:33:47.860 human soul.

00:33:48.780 Yeah.

00:33:49.940 You, you, we all know about, uh, young, uh, uh, popular figures in music or, or, or

00:33:58.720 Hollywood and the, and then you read, they couldn't handle the fame and, or the fortune.

00:34:06.300 I have actually, uh, said two things about this.

00:34:10.160 One is I believe that fame is more difficult for young people to handle or even middle-aged

00:34:19.640 people than heroin.

00:34:22.300 It's, you, you can, you can break away.

00:34:24.980 I, and we all know people who have been addicted, but if you're addicted to fame, it's almost

00:34:29.640 impossible.

00:34:30.420 Yeah.

00:34:30.660 Uh, so number two, you will love this.

00:34:34.260 So I get a big kick out of talking to kids.

00:34:37.460 So I will go into a seventh grade class and I will, what do you want to be when you grow

00:34:42.620 up?

00:34:42.900 And the most common answer is famous.

00:34:45.800 And then I, then I go, Glenn, you'll doubly love this.

00:34:50.500 So I go famous for what, which they've never thought about in their lives.

00:34:55.740 And they go, it doesn't matter.

00:34:57.340 I say, well, what if you're famous for most hamburgers eaten great, not conquering cancer,

00:35:06.920 right?

00:35:07.240 Most hamburgers eaten, right?

00:35:09.440 Right.

00:35:10.200 Um, and it is a, it's weird because we are now entering a time where, uh, where you can

00:35:20.680 be the most genuine and the most real that people are starving for authentic people to

00:35:28.860 starving.

00:35:29.420 It's why you're successful.

00:35:30.520 Correct.

00:35:31.160 Um, you know, just, I'm going to tell you, I don't really care what the consequences are.

00:35:34.760 That's just what I believe.

00:35:35.780 And they're starving for that.

00:35:37.960 And yet our children are being raised on social media to pose.

00:35:43.840 There's nothing real on social media and you can see it in the, you know, I remember I

00:35:49.880 was in top 40 radio and it's when I knew I had to get out.

00:35:53.860 Um, I was doing, I was judging some, I don't know, cover girl modeling thing and they did

00:36:00.680 20 somethings.

00:36:01.580 And then they also had, uh, young teenagers, uh, and preteens that were modeling.

00:36:08.980 And I was so grossed out by the 12 year olds that were acting sexy.

00:36:15.240 They had no idea what sexy even was.

00:36:17.800 They were just, they were just reenacting what they saw people do.

00:36:23.660 That's our whole society.

00:36:25.300 Now they're just, they're just acting like those people.

00:36:33.500 Maybe you'll remember better than I, but it's very recent, like even within the last 10 days

00:36:38.620 where there's a movie out and it's, yeah, Netflix released it.

00:36:45.340 By the way, Netflix did not allow no safe spaces to be streamed.

00:36:52.020 This great film, Adam Carolla and I are in about free speech.

00:36:57.960 That's not okay for Netflix, but 12 year old girls twerking. 0.96

00:37:02.800 Um, is that that's okay.

00:37:06.080 Yeah.

00:37:06.660 We were talking about this earlier today on the radio.

00:37:10.040 I don't know, uh, when it happened, but it is impossible now to watch anything that, uh,

00:37:23.240 it does not cross every boundary, uh, that we would never have crossed 10 years ago that

00:37:31.080 you cannot find.

00:37:32.420 And I, I, I brought things to Netflix.

00:37:34.720 I brought stories to Netflix.

00:37:36.300 I brought them to Amazon.

00:37:37.980 I brought, and they say there's no appetite.

00:37:40.380 That's not true.

00:37:42.720 There's got to be people in this country that still want to watch things that are good,

00:37:49.200 funny, maybe a little edgy here and there, but, but are not pornographic, uh, and not,

00:37:56.640 you know, has a, has a little higher brow than the F word.

00:38:02.240 That's right.

00:38:03.200 Well, I mean, look, your success is an example.

00:38:06.860 Uh, the, that, that PragerU, uh, gets a billion views a year and that 65% are under the age

00:38:14.420 of 35, you know, we have a pretty sophisticated stuff on the internet and it's, and it's drawing

00:38:22.040 a lot of people, you know, you know what?

00:38:24.360 I'll give you an amazing little piece of data, uh, because of the, I believe now I originally

00:38:31.620 called it the greatest mistake that, uh, humanity has made, not the greatest evil.

00:38:37.580 I made that clear, but the greatest mistake, the worldwide lockdown, I, I was right.

00:38:43.240 Uh, I'm, I'm more right every day.

00:38:45.380 Now I believe it's criminal.

00:38:46.700 I think it's gone from mistake to, to a crime, but, uh, in any event, wait, wait, wait, wait,

00:38:52.400 wait, wait, I want to stop and talk to you about that.

00:38:55.160 First of all, the biggest mistake I'm playing devil's advocate here.

00:39:00.740 I think I can justify this in my mind, but how can you say this was the biggest mistake

00:39:05.940 in the history of the world?

00:39:07.900 And yet it was done by the guy, Donald Trump that you support.

00:39:13.580 His instinct was not to do it.

00:39:15.880 Uh, he, he understood he was, he was in, uh, he was in no man's land.

00:39:20.640 If he didn't call for it, and by the way, he has no power to enforce it.

00:39:26.180 So it's almost irrelevant what he came out, it's governors and mayors, but, uh, uh, every

00:39:31.780 death would have been attributed to him.

00:39:34.080 If we didn't have a national lockdown, we should have done what Sweden did. 0.97

00:39:38.400 Every country should have done what Sweden did.

00:39:40.900 The virus, uh, will take a certain number of lives.

00:39:44.540 It is a tragedy.

00:39:45.740 It has been true of all viruses.

00:39:47.260 Uh, we, we have crushed children.

00:39:51.100 We have crushed the society.

00:39:53.800 We have, uh, ruined tens of millions of people's livelihoods.

00:39:59.160 Uh, and in the, and in the name of pseudoscience.

00:40:02.760 Okay.

00:40:03.300 So now give me the second, give me the second half.

00:40:05.740 Now you say it's crossed over into criminal.

00:40:08.720 Yes.

00:40:09.640 Uh, in California that, uh, restaurants are still closed for, for in room dining is, is,

00:40:16.920 I believe a crime.

00:40:17.820 Uh, I do not understand how Gavin Newsom gets away with it.

00:40:21.500 I, I really don't.

00:40:23.200 The, the supine nature of the American people is one of the most distressing aspects of this,

00:40:30.460 that there, I had a rally three months ago in front of city hall, uh, in front of another

00:40:36.560 little man with great power, Eric Garcetti, the mayor of, of Los Angeles.

00:40:40.460 I spoke, uh, at, at a rally, uh, to open up Los Angeles three months ago, only 200 people

00:40:49.060 came, by the way, I hugged 40 people mask free.

00:40:52.520 Uh, I, and one of the reasons is that, uh, I, I believe that I will be taken care of because

00:41:01.120 of hydroxychloroquine and zinc.

00:41:03.000 The, uh, this is one of the scandals of my lifetime that, uh, the, uh, the social media

00:41:14.420 shut down doctors, epidemiologists.

00:41:18.220 Oh, I know.

00:41:19.180 Who, who, uh, tell you the obvious truth.

00:41:23.140 Uganda has virtually no deaths.

00:41:26.240 One of the poorest countries in the world.

00:41:28.420 You know why?

00:41:30.040 So almost everybody is already taking it for malaria.

00:41:33.740 Yeah.

00:41:34.120 Um, I I'll tell you, Dennis, everybody in my family was diagnosed with COVID within two

00:41:39.900 days of each other.

00:41:41.140 Um, as soon as anyone in the family had symptoms, uh, I was symptom free, uh, but everybody else

00:41:48.280 started getting sick.

00:41:48.940 I took zinc, uh, what is it?

00:41:50.760 Butrinol, uh, and hydroxychloroquine.

00:41:53.460 Never got it.

00:41:54.920 I have a, I have a compromised immune system.

00:41:57.540 I, I'm the most vulnerable to it.

00:42:00.440 Right.

00:42:01.740 Exactly.

00:42:02.580 So are you, anyway, I just, so I just want to, I, I, I, I remember one of my, uh, tasks

00:42:09.600 whenever, because of radio and speaking, I remember where the discussion began.

00:42:14.260 Okay.

00:42:14.540 Sorry.

00:42:14.820 So I don't know, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:42:17.020 It was my task to remember it.

00:42:19.080 So, uh, because of the lockdown, uh, people could not go on Passover to Jews could not go 0.57

00:42:25.660 to other Jews' homes or non-Jews go to Jews' homes for past the Passover Seder. 0.79

00:42:29.880 So, uh, I conducted one on the internet, uh, with my, uh, a dear friend of mine who, who

00:42:36.180 is a psychiatrist at, uh, at UCLA Medical School.

00:42:39.100 Uh, so I conducted this with my friend and I expected a couple of thousand people.

00:42:45.200 I'm only making your point about the hunger for quality.

00:42:48.880 Do you know how many people saw it on YouTube?

00:42:52.080 And there's 250,000 people, a Passover Seder.

00:42:57.440 Mm.

00:42:57.740 A quarter of a million views.

00:43:00.180 And you figure most of the views, very few people are alone.

00:43:03.600 That's like a half a million people.

00:43:06.180 And it's not, you know, there were no visuals.

00:43:09.500 I'm just sitting there.

00:43:10.660 Right.

00:43:11.200 You know, with matzah. 1.00

00:43:12.700 Right.

00:43:13.960 And matzah is not sexy. 1.00

00:43:15.840 Yeah.

00:43:16.060 So the, the, the hunger for, for quality, obviously this is key.

00:43:23.080 It's another, another time I come on your show, I will just, I can do an hour on one

00:43:28.020 word.

00:43:28.840 Interesting.

00:43:29.840 The essence of communication is to be interesting.

00:43:33.680 And I learned it because I'm in music.

00:43:35.820 I conduct orchestras and, uh, I, I, my whole life I have wondered why do I prefer this

00:43:42.240 conductor's Brahms fourth to this conductor's Brahms fourth?

00:43:45.340 And it's been my whole life.

00:43:47.720 I've been trying, why do I, I don't understand.

00:43:49.660 And then I realized this guy holds my interest.

00:43:53.100 This guy didn't.

00:43:55.080 You're interesting.

00:43:56.240 If you weren't, you would be in a different field.

00:43:59.860 I am interesting.

00:44:01.520 You can disagree with me, anything, but I'm interesting.

00:44:04.380 Interesting is everything.

00:44:06.700 So you have to make a Passover Seder interesting.

00:44:09.820 A lot of religious Christians and religious Jews forgot to make their religions interesting, 0.99

00:44:14.580 not phony, relevant with a guitar.

00:44:17.940 Interesting.

00:44:21.840 Dennis, are you familiar with the world economics, uh, the world economic forums, the great reset?

00:44:29.740 No.

00:44:32.380 Would you do me a favor sometime today, go to the world economic forum and look at the great

00:44:37.880 reset, go to their website, look it up.

00:44:40.360 When you say it's criminal, yeah.

00:44:42.900 When you say it's criminal, um, I believe we have tied together, uh, several big organizations,

00:44:50.320 um, and the world economic forum is right there in the leadership role, uh, for the great reset

00:44:58.080 where we, we're not going to have, um, normal.

00:45:01.020 We're not going to return.

00:45:02.260 Right.

00:45:02.640 We're, we are, they are now talking about, uh, I can't remember exactly what they call

00:45:08.560 it, but it was like a socialist capitalism.

00:45:12.200 Uh, what it is, is national socialism.

00:45:14.640 You might still own the company, but the government will tell you what to do with it.

00:45:20.520 And it is a global reset that they're working on.

00:45:23.340 Yes.

00:45:23.780 Basically China will be the model. 0.89

00:45:25.620 Yeah.

00:45:26.140 Um, it's terrifying.

00:45:27.300 It's really terrifying.

00:45:28.500 It is.

00:45:28.960 Yes.

00:45:29.540 Um, uh, so Dennis, um, you talk to me a little bit about the fight you've had with Google.

00:45:38.880 Um, and the, I, I, I've been saying recently on the air, voices have been silenced, um, recently

00:45:49.920 in America.

00:45:50.940 Uh, and it's, uh, it seems strangely to be no big deal for a lot of people.

00:45:57.300 It's a big deal when you silence somebody on the left or the right to me, I'm a free

00:46:02.300 speech absolutist.

00:46:04.200 Um, and I stand up for people on the left when they are silenced, uh, and people I vehemently

00:46:11.440 disagree with because that's when you have to stand up.

00:46:13.860 Um, but I've been saying recently that if the left wins and gets their way, um, voices like

00:46:24.820 yours, voices like mine, once Donald Trump stops being the giant flack jacket that he

00:46:32.620 has become and the attacks are zeroed back in on talk radio, et cetera, et cetera.

00:46:38.700 If they're in charge, we don't survive.

00:46:41.920 Do you agree with that?

00:46:42.700 Or is that hyperbolic?

00:46:45.500 There is no example of leftists in power and free speech remaining.

00:46:51.160 It doesn't exist in human history.

00:46:54.300 Liberals, great.

00:46:56.000 Conservatives, great.

00:46:57.000 Left, as I said, they're, they do, well, liberty, not just even, they don't, liberty is not a

00:47:05.180 left-wing value.

00:47:06.120 Equality of result, not equality of opportunity.

00:47:09.480 Equality of result, it might be a value.

00:47:11.940 In other words, it's the French Revolution versus the American Revolution.

00:47:15.740 That's, that's, or even now, I would say the Russian Revolution versus the American Revolution.

00:47:20.160 It's even worse.

00:47:21.540 So there's no question, uh, look, uh, 50% of young Americans or 48%, uh, something, one

00:47:29.700 of the two, uh, believe, they say, oh, we believe in free speech, but not for hate speech.

00:47:36.080 Right.

00:47:36.480 But of course, that, that means you don't believe in free speech.

00:47:39.280 I mean, I'll give you an example, Glenn, uh, again, from my, from my Jewish background,

00:47:45.000 when I was a kid, Nazis, I mean, real Nazis, not, uh, conservatives called Nazis by leftists,

00:47:53.760 real Nazis with real swastikas marched in Skokie, Illinois, a suburb of Chicago.

00:47:59.900 The reason, because they're particularly cruel, was to march where a lot of Holocaust survivors 1.00

00:48:05.740 were living.

00:48:07.000 Which was in Skokie.

00:48:08.060 Uh, almost every Jewish organization that I, I could think of defended their right to

00:48:14.960 march.

00:48:15.920 People who advocate essentially the genocide of Jews.

00:48:20.320 That is how committed people are and were to free speech in America, including myself.

00:48:27.820 Do you know that America is one of the only countries in the West that allows Holocaust 1.00

00:48:32.500 denial, which is one of the, you know, one of the most incredible lies in history.

00:48:37.460 It's the most documented event in history, the Holocaust. 0.80

00:48:40.400 And there are people, uh, because they hate Jews.

00:48:42.980 So they, they deny that the Holocaust happened in Europe.

00:48:46.640 You, you can actually be fined or go to prison for Holocaust denial in the United States.

00:48:51.120 You want to say there was no Holocaust fine. 0.91

00:48:52.960 Say that, you know, you could say, you know, that there was no slavery.

00:48:56.460 You can make up anything you want, but this is dying.

00:49:00.980 When, when, uh, when I was a kid and you, and I suspect you, you recall this as well,

00:49:08.920 uh, the commonality of, you know, well, I may not agree with what you have to say, but

00:49:14.540 I'll fight to the death for your right to say it.

00:49:16.200 I mean, you sort of memorize that line.

00:49:18.720 Yeah.

00:49:18.860 Yeah.

00:49:19.460 I heard it a lot growing up.

00:49:21.860 Yeah.

00:49:22.260 Yeah.

00:49:22.700 Yeah.

00:49:23.700 Um, so Dennis, I know we're short on, on time.

00:49:26.580 Um, and I'm sorry, but I'm, I'm just pumping you for all personal information.

00:49:30.480 I'm, I don't know if this is good or entertaining for anybody or, you know, um, but I, I'm personally

00:49:36.340 interested in a few things.

00:49:37.740 Um, I have, I've studied revolutions for the last 20 years, uh, I have studied Marxist

00:49:47.420 revolutions, um, and, um, and coups.

00:49:55.380 And, uh, because of that, I was pilloried in, uh, public space for a long time by saying,

00:50:03.380 Hey, what's happening over in Egypt?

00:50:06.020 Uh, that's, it was not what you're seeing here.

00:50:08.780 This is, this is, uh, this is orchestrated.

00:50:12.140 What you're seeing in the Arab spring is orchestrated and it's being orchestrated by some very big 1.00

00:50:17.660 people, uh, and it's going to spread, um, and they're going to do the same thing here.

00:50:23.140 And we're going to be, we're going to be a bigger Israel and it will be the Palestinians, 1.00

00:50:28.660 you know, against Israel.

00:50:30.380 It'll be the whomever against the United States and we'll be the big aggressors and yada, yada, 0.69

00:50:37.480 yada.

00:50:38.000 Um, as I look at things, I, I hope we don't go down these roads, but, uh, history will tell

00:50:44.720 you that, um, uh, it happens.

00:50:50.840 I feel like, um, I, I don't, I don't, uh, there's no place to go.

00:50:59.180 So I can't be the Jew that jumped out of Germany so early.

00:51:04.800 Um, but I, I am a Mormon.

00:51:07.480 We're the Jews of the Christian world and, uh, you know, our heritage with women and everything

00:51:15.040 else, they're going to, they're going to pounce on us.

00:51:17.460 They're going to be, we're going to be the first sacrifice and Christians will turn their 1.00

00:51:22.540 heads because they don't know Mormons. 0.98

00:51:24.300 They don't care about Mormons. 0.58

00:51:25.980 They think that we're not really Christians or whatever.

00:51:28.980 And basically the same, we have the same kind of, um, separation culture as the Jews do in 0.99

00:51:36.380 some ways.

00:51:37.400 And I just think we're going to be the first of the Christians. 0.99

00:51:40.060 So your guys are going to be the first ones as Jews, but for Christians, we'll be thrown 1.00

00:51:44.020 to the lions. 0.99

00:51:46.340 Well, what do I, what do I look, what do I look, sorry, go on.

00:51:49.460 What do I, what do I look for Dennis?

00:51:51.220 What do I, when do you say it's time to get out of Germany?

00:51:55.360 It's time to reevaluate things.

00:51:58.060 The very fact that we're even discussing this has got to be a shock to the system.

00:52:08.160 We, we, four years ago, let alone 40, we would not be having such a discussion because

00:52:14.280 nobody would, you don't think of leaving America.

00:52:17.780 But you can't go anywhere else.

00:52:19.040 You think of stopping, you know, a hundred million of coming in because this is the place

00:52:24.220 you want to go to.

00:52:25.120 There is no guarantee that, uh, that the forces that loathe liberty will not take over liberty.

00:52:37.360 As I have been telling people at speeches and in my writings, my radio, liberty is a value,

00:52:47.120 not an instinct.

00:52:49.740 There's a big difference.

00:52:52.620 Breathing is an instinct.

00:52:54.140 Sex is an instinct.

00:52:56.760 Liberty is a learned value.

00:53:00.640 Humans want to be taken care of much more than they want to be free.

00:53:06.940 Guess where I learned this?

00:53:09.220 In the good old Bible, which by the way, is the source of the problem because without the 0.65

00:53:15.040 Bible, this country is wisdom free.

00:53:17.660 It got its wisdom from the Bible.

00:53:19.200 The most Bible free place is the university and it is the most wisdom free place in America.

00:53:26.460 So I just, I want to, this is one plug I want to make.

00:53:30.220 I am, I know biblical Hebrew very well and I've been teaching the Bible all of my life

00:53:36.180 and I am writing a commentary on the first five books of the Bible.

00:53:40.220 The most important, if I can say, because everything is rooted.

00:53:44.800 Christianity, the rest of the Old Testament is all rooted in the Torah.

00:53:48.520 The first five books.

00:53:50.140 I have two volumes out.

00:53:51.560 What's called the rational Bible.

00:53:52.840 If people want to go to Amazon, they could read 1600 reviews of people, many of whom are

00:53:59.520 agnostic and said, this thing made me rethink my agnosticism.

00:54:04.380 So I'll give you an example of a wisdom thing.

00:54:07.320 I learned when I was 10, the Jews leave Egypt, they were slaves for hundreds of years, right? 0.89

00:54:14.480 What is the first thing they do?

00:54:16.480 They complain to Moses, let's go back to Egypt. 0.93

00:54:19.120 We ate better.

00:54:20.380 They weren't starving in the wilderness.

00:54:22.920 They just preferred the food in Egypt.

00:54:26.220 People rather be well-fed slaves than less well-fed, not starving, just less well-fed free

00:54:33.920 people.

00:54:34.360 That's the human condition.

00:54:37.540 That is why the Bible is eternal, because it's rooted in human nature, and human nature

00:54:42.660 is eternal.

00:54:44.200 And one of the aspects of human nature that is eternal is that liberty is a value.

00:54:49.600 What is on the liberty bell?

00:54:51.360 A verse from the Torah, from Leviticus.

00:54:54.520 And you shall proclaim liberty throughout the land to all its inhabitants.

00:54:58.720 Leviticus chapter 25.

00:55:00.140 By the way, it shows you how the founders knew their Bible.

00:55:04.600 Who knows Leviticus?

00:55:06.800 You ask an American, what's Leviticus?

00:55:08.940 He'll think it's a horse running in the third in Aqueduct.

00:55:11.860 Right.

00:55:12.800 Same with Deuteronomy at this point.

00:55:14.900 And Deuteronomy is, I mean, that was the biggest source for any of our laws.

00:55:19.740 That's right.

00:55:20.400 For everyone else was Deuteronomy.

00:55:22.040 Dennis, first of all, let me give you a plug for your book.

00:55:27.280 I have read your books, your two books on the Bible, and I just think they are so important.

00:55:34.000 And Christians don't understand. 1.00

00:55:36.300 Unless you have, you can read the Bible and King James, but unless you understand it with somebody who reads Hebrew and understands all the oral traditions and everything else, you have absolutely, you've never read the Old Testament.

00:55:53.880 You've never read it, and it is your life's work.

00:55:59.560 And the rational Bible, because I only use reason.

00:56:05.580 Reason takes me to God.

00:56:08.100 Can we do this again sometime, Dennis?

00:56:10.580 I really enjoy this.

00:56:11.140 Glenn, you are a total joy any time you want.

00:56:13.760 God bless you.

00:56:14.300 Thank you very much.

00:56:14.800 And for the same fee.

00:56:16.800 There he goes, piling the cash again.

00:56:23.640 Yeah.

00:56:23.980 Dennis Frager, thank you.

00:56:30.300 Just a reminder, I'd love you to rate and subscribe to the podcast and pass this on to a friend so it can be discovered by other people.

00:56:46.800 Thank you.

The Glenn Beck Program - August 29, 2020

Ep 80 ｜ 'Weak Liberals Have Enabled Evil to Triumph' ｜ Dennis Prager ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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