Ep 80 ｜ 'Weak Liberals Have Enabled Evil to Triumph' ｜ Dennis Prager ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast
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Summary
Glenn Beck sits down with political commentator Dennis Prager to discuss his new book, The Dark Side Of: How To Lead A Good Life, and why he doesn t care if you're a Christian, a liberal, or a conservative.
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In the beginning, the universe was silent, cloaked in darkness.
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It must have been so peaceful back before the scrawny punks in the black block, you know, started shouting about dreadlocks, maple syrup.
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They're all racist. Oh, in the beginning, those people weren't there.
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But as the hysteria of 2020 grows louder and more volatile, a few things keep me going.
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Family, comedy, justice, democracy, truth, Chick-fil-A.
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Have you tried the new Popeye's chicken scent? Never mind.
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All of which are currently under attack now by bloodthirsty leftist mobs, anarchist radicals who have launched our country into a deep moral turbulence.
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Would you be surprised if we were at civil war in three months?
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Today's guest on the Glenn Beck podcast is the unshakable Dennis Prager.
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For the past few decades, Dennis has challenged the left's most dangerous narratives.
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He has fought the left's worst depravity and worsening depravity.
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He is a professional lion tamer in the world of political media.
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He's like, yep, in your mouth, out of your mouth, in your mouth, out of your mouth.
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Like me, many Americans, sometimes he is hopeful.
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Sometimes he's one breath away from feeling irreversibly defeated and faithless.
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I promise you that you will feel a little more sane by the end of it.
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And hopefully we'll come out with a little more hope for the future and a little less nostalgia for that empty, silent universe.
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I just got a new order of the new Bilt Bar protein bars.
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You do not get a body like this without working hard.
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Do you know how many times I have slaved over a bucket of ice cream?
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Anyway, so she's been telling me about these new protein bars, Bilt Bars.
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And I didn't listen to her because she likes them and she works out and she's healthy.
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And I didn't believe that anything healthy could be delicious.
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I asked Bilt Bar to actually be a sponsor on this program.
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They have just improved their already delicious recipe.
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Their their Oreo cookie is like eating a bowl of Oreo cookies.
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Anyway, you can get a mix box with their 12 original flavors, plus the new ones.
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They've also reset the code for this new launch.
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Dennis, I want to start with probably your biggest regret, which has to be you started
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Prager University as a non-profit organization.
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It was actually Alan Estrin, whose idea it was, did want to start it as a for-profit
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And we, we, it's, yeah, I didn't think it was a good idea in part because I didn't
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It's like, yeah, I was up for the Harrison Ford role in Star Wars.
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Glenn, you're going to like this because you're, you are a, a God-centered man.
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So here is my theory on what happens before we're born.
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There are any number of cues, as the Brits would say, or lines, as we would say in America,
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So, for example, when, when God gave gardening ability, I was not in that line.
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But there was a very much more important line I was not in, and that was financial acuity.
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So it has, I've always felt that if I could buy all the books, have the audio system I want
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I never assumed having money made me wealthy, just having these perks that I want, which
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But this, you have hit the perfect example of, of my lack of financial acumen.
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So, but it doesn't, I mean, I do what I do and I don't do it for money.
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It's, it's nice that I can live in a nice house and I have a nice life, but I don't do
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And, and I know you don't do it for the money either.
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Um, what did you expect Prager University to be?
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Well, so again, uh, I'm very, uh, I am very, the word I'm using is transparent.
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Uh, somebody on my radio show, I think it was a few, a few months ago, just said, you
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Uh, at a very early time in my radio career, I thought, why should I hide anything about
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The, the more real I am to people, the more effective I'll be.
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I know exactly what I wanted to do with my life.
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I wrote it in my diary in my junior year in high school.
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And, uh, therefore, when you ask, uh, you know, what I, what I foresaw with regard to PragerU,
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uh, all, all I want is to touch people with the wonderful set of values that I think are
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I, I, I have felt since high school that I had a cure for moral cancer and I knew the
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I, I understood at 17, the issue, the issue was not, do I have a cure for evil?
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You, you were there for the Helsinki Accords, uh, with Ronald Reagan.
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Um, I mean, I was just a dopey, just a dopey kid, probably, uh, in my college years, uh, you
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know, still figuring out how to, you know, buy milk and make macaroni and cheese on my own.
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What was, well, I, uh, I knew that communism was evil.
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Uh, I claim, I, I take credit in the, in the sense that I know that I have this gift.
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I, I know good and evil, like a person with perfect pitch knows what an A flat or an E flat
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And I've known this my whole, I know it in people that I meet.
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That's why I have virtually never been personally hurt by a person in my life.
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I, I detect crap so quickly that it, it, it, it would, it, it doesn't explain our friendship
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Yes, you're, you're cracking, you're cracking me up.
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If you turned out to be a bad guy, I will, I will, I will then advertise.
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You sitting there in an office looking like Mr. Potter from, from, uh, it's a wonderful
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And I, uh, and of course I knew Nazism was evil, but Nazism was dead and communism wasn't
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Communism is now making its, uh, first serious, uh, inroads into the United States.
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So, uh, for, I don't, I don't know how it happened, but my name was, uh, uh, given to
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the president then at that time, Reagan, uh, I was, let's see, what year would that have
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So yes, he was president, uh, from 82, uh, it was probably 86, somewhere in that area.
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So, yeah, so it was a, it was a great honor that he would have picked me that they do is
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they take two non diplomats to be a part of the delegation.
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So I went to Vienna, uh, the Helsinki accords were the human rights accord signed with the
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Soviet union, which of course was a joke to the Soviets, but was not a joke to people who
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I had spent a lot of time in Eastern Europe and the Soviet union.
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Oh, I had, I had, I had a, uh, a discussion with the Soviet diplomats one day.
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I'll never forget where, uh, I, I just said to them, you know, uh, we, we can print whatever
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we want, uh, in, in America, in our media, including criticizing our government.
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And he says, Oh, your magazines are, are just as much a part of your government as, as any
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I mean, it was, it was like talking to a leftist in America today.
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Uh, but, uh, it's, it was, it was a great experience.
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I didn't, I didn't do much for the country in Vienna, but the country did a lot for me.
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Did, are you, how does it feel having that conversation then with what you knew was evil?
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And while we, we had a free press, it still was, um, you know, it still was a push to the,
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to the left, but it isn't what we have now with the cancer, cancel culture and everything
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What, what do you, what are your thoughts on being there then seeing that evil?
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And now we have it now it's over here and gaining in strength.
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Well, you will find this very interesting, Glenn.
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Uh, I'm often asked, you know, what have I, I'm sure you're asked to, what have you changed
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So here is a revelation that came to me in the last, really, I would say in the last four years
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And it's, I think a pretty unshockable because I don't have much expectation of humanity.
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And, uh, it is this, I, I studied Russian in order to be able to read Pravda, the Soviet
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communist newspaper, not in order to be able to order a tuna sandwich and not, not in order
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I, I was at the school of international affairs at Columbia.
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I had only interest in, and by the way, to this day, I could say the Soviet union condemns
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the Israeli aggressors against the peace loving people of the Arab countries.
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I could say that in perfect Russian, but I cannot say, can I have a tuna sandwich?
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So that's the joke, I have Pravda Russian, it's really, it's really a joke.
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Anyway, I was convinced that, uh, the ability of the media to brainwash a, a society depended
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Uh, so, uh, Dennis, you, you see it, you have a good judge and you know, James Lindsay is
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the mathematician, uh, did, uh, worked with Helen Pluckrose.
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Um, and they did the, um, they did the white papers where they just took the mind comp and
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put white males instead of Jews and then had it submitted to peer reviewed.
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And there, and they are people that are all liberals, they're liberals, um, but they're
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And they have, they tried to show that the university system and the, the peer reviewed
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I mean, they, they wrote a paper and it was peer reviewed and published that taking your
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dog to the dog park, if your dog, uh, tries to make it with another dog, that's dog rape.
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Anyway, uh, I talked to him about a year and a half ago and he said, you know, I'm very
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I just did a podcast with him a couple of weeks ago and, uh, he said a couple of things
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And I said, you know, I've tried to stay away from the word evil over the last five years
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But I look at what's happening in our country and how it's being dismantled and the lies
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And there's no other word to describe it, but evil.
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I don't like any of the theology around it or anything else.
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He said, but that is the only word that can describe it.
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And I asked him for a look into the future and, uh, it wasn't a real optimistic one.
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The word should not be overused, but no word should be overused.
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Even the word awesome, you know, you, you, you know, you, you, uh, you order, you know,
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something in the restaurant and the server goes, oh, awesome.
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Liberals are weak, which enables, uh, enables, uh, evil to triumph.
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But liberalism and leftism have almost nothing in common.
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That liberals will not acknowledge this is because they have been, uh, brainwashed.
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And I can't think of a better word into believing that their enemy or their conservatives, whereas their enemy is the left.
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As Alan Dershowitz said to me in the movie, uh, no safe spaces, one could see it in his apartment in Manhattan.
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Uh, he said, uh, Dennis, uh, as a liberal, lifelong liberal, lifelong Democrat, American, a Jew, I am far more afraid of the left than, than of the right, which is exactly how I feel.
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I, I, I'm much more afraid of the left in America.
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I would, in Germany, the right, the right over in Europe.
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And this is where it always gets confusing the right over in Europe.
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It's just a different, it's like a train track.
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One is national socialism and one is global socialism.
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And as close as you can get to anarchy without it, uh, indeed, maximum liberalism, we really do.
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We don't want to close down left wing thought, right?
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Well, they want to close us down for good reason.
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A, the left has never been pro-liberty, never from Marx to Lenin to Soros, uh, to, uh, to the, the contemporary democratic party and your local university.
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French revolution versus American revolution is your, is your classic example.
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The liberals have always been for liberty, but liberals are useful idiots to the left.
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And the left uses every group, but that, that, if you want to ask me about that, that's fine afterwards.
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So yes, to your first question, yes, it is evil to destroy the greatest country that has ever been made.
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And remember, unlike the left, I compare America to other countries, not to utopia.
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They compare, that's why their favorite song is John Lennon's Imagine.
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They imagine a world where everything is perfect.
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I tell my fellow Jews, most of whom are on the left, if there's any group that should be afraid
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of what happens when civilization gets weakened, it's us Jews, because the, the building first
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When, when the, when the pillars of civilization crumble, Jews get hit first, never last, but
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So this is that, that Jews would be pro-left is, is not only morally awful, it is suicidal.
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But listen, Americans are committing suicide right now by voting left.
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Your other question was with regard to optimism and where do I see this going?
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Uh, I ask me, ask me after election day, uh, if, if the, if the left, which is now the
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If the left takes over both houses of Congress and the presidency, it is, uh, I, I cannot see
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However, I just want to make something clear as I have to my listeners for quite some time
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I don't fight based on whether I'm optimistic or not.
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The guys who stormed Normandy beach were not optimists.
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If they were, they wouldn't be peeing in their pants as depicted very powerfully in, uh, in
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Uh, the, the, the, the guys who fought for Liberty and America before me were asked to
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I'm not asked to give up my life, but so the least I could do is fight while I'm living.
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So, uh, I don't, I don't really ask myself, am I optimistic?
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So, you know, Dennis, I was with, um, I was with one of the righteous among the nations.
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She couldn't speak about it because nothing really had changed with the Russians coming
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She wasn't open about any of it until the wall came down.
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And I took my family to visit her and to learn from her.
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And the, one of the last things she said, uh, when I said, the tree of righteousness is
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And she looked at me and she said, you misunderstand the righteous didn't suddenly become righteous.
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They just refuse to go over the cliff with the rest of society.
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Um, that I understand more every single day, the courage that it takes to hide a Jew, to
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hide anyone, um, doesn't happen if you don't have the courage and the backbone to stand right
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Well, number one, I mean, you know, which is typical of you to ask these perceptive questions.
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Uh, the, the number one, I have said all of my life, the rarest of the good traits is
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Uh, there, there are many nice people, kind people, honest people, loyal people, but there
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And the problem is all the good traits are worthless without courage.
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The, it, it takes no effort to be a coward that comes with your nature.
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Uh, I think I'm courageous, but, uh, it doesn't mean I don't have fears.
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It means I don't allow them to dictate what I do.
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Uh, uh, no, I've given a speech actually how to be courageous.
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It's a, it's a, it's, it's at the, the Prager store.com.
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But anyway, people should know I, I did, I gave a speech on it.
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A very, uh, people were asking me because a lot of people would like to become courageous.
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The first thing you have to do is want to be courageous.
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Well, the first thing you have to do is want to play piano.
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So you want to be courageous and then you practice being courageous.
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They're, they're, they're, it's a very important question.
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One way is that you, you ask yourself, this is a, just a practical question.
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So let's say you speak out on your, on your social media and you send a, a Glenn Beck blaze
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And so you send that out to friends, just, I would just, uh, respectfully request you
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Why do you want to be friended by people who are so awful as to de-friend you because you
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If somebody in my life, a relative or, or an acquaintance or even a friend sent me an
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article from moveon.org, uh, or this, or the, the equivalent, the New York times, uh,
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I probably already did read it because I actually read the New York times because for the same
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reason I read Pravda, I want to know what the other side says.
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Uh, and, uh, so, uh, the first thing you have to do is ask, what is the worst that could happen?
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Now, if the worst that could happen is if you save a Jew and the Nazis find you, they'll
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That that's, I don't judge people who didn't rescue Jews in the Holocaust.
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I judge people who participated in snitching on Jews, but that, that people did not risk
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I don't expect that much from most human beings, but in America to stand up to the left, your,
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Maybe friends will befriend you, uh, de-friend you, but okay.
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So when you ask what's the worst that could happen, that could already begin to give you
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Number two, you have to not want to be liked by everyone.
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You should seek to be loved only by your spouse and your friends.
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Well, if you seek to be loved, you will not be a good teacher.
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If a parent wants to be loved every day of their lives, they will not be a good parent.
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You should seek to be loved by your spouse and your friends.
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So James, I think it was James said to me, um, Glenn, you have to say the first thing
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you have to do, everybody needs to draw a line.
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They need to know where's your line because it'll continue to move.
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They crossed this line and that's just too much for me.
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Um, and if you don't know it and don't set it, but as we were talking, they've already
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crossed so many, I mean, you know, but I'm speaking out others are not what lines are
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left here, Dennis, to get people to be able to say, okay, that's a reasonable line that
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I would, I would have added it had you, had you told it to me earlier.
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I get this call or email periodically, if not regularly, Dennis, what do I tell my daughter?
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And she said to me, mom, if I write what I think, meaning not, not leftist, uh, I will
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So I say to the parent and I've said so often, I sort of have it memorized and I say, look,
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I can't tell you what to tell your child, but you're asking me.
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So I can only tell you this, this is what I would say as the non-parent to your child.
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If you compromise on what you believe for a grade, when will you not compromise on what
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I mean, I'm just reviewing, you know, well, it's, it, it's a challenge more than an indictment.
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You, you have to say to yourself what you just said, Glenn, where is my line?
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So I, I shut up and, and, and be one of the herd for a grade.
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When will I not shut up and be one of the herd grades are not that important.
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Livelihood is more important than grades just to give an example.
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So when, when will you, when will you take a stand if you don't take a stand in college
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Uh, I'll, I'll tell you, uh, Dennis, and I, I'm sure you've gone through this, but there
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was a point in my career where right before I left Fox that I knew if I didn't leave, I
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And, and, and this is why there comes a point to where you've convinced yourself that you,
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uh, have influence and you now are positioned to be able to do things that you couldn't do
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And, uh, yeah, there's some compromises that you have to make, but you know, compromise
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And I was so, um, shook to the center of my being.
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You start saying, well, I know, but we, you're done.
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Well, I could give you a parallel you'll find fascinating.
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In the 1990s, I had a national TV shows on all over the country.
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We're, we're having a convention, a get together.
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So, uh, the, uh, one day they come to me cause you know, on TV, there are ratings every
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So, uh, they came to me, the producers and they said, uh, Dennis, you know, uh, it's a
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The, uh, they said, we got to spice it up though, which meant sex.
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Now you have to understand I have very libertarian views on consensual sex, just for the record.
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However, I knew I wasn't given my gifts by God or by nature, but I think by God, but doesn't
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matter, I wasn't given the gifts I have in order to have, uh, semi nudity on a national
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They wanted, uh, lingerie models to come on the show.
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So interestingly, by the way, I, I said, I will allow it once I drew my line, but I will
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not be with the models, which I never saw them as it happens.
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Number two, uh, it was people from Frederick's of Hollywood, which, you know, has lingerie
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and stuff, which I'm totally support such industries.
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But, uh, I will talk to them intellectually about the issue of sex between, you know, between
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couples, sexual titillation, which are very legitimate subjects for serious discourse.
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It was the highest rated of my shows and I never, and I said, that was it.
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And, and, and of course, ultimately the show lasted a grand total of six months.
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Uh, but I felt as you were just describing, I am not in media to be in the media.
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If I can't do good, I have no interest in being so, but that's, that's a problem now,
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Dennis, because, uh, you know, they used to accuse people like us.
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We're only saying these things for ratings and for money.
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Well, people are saying these things now for likes and friends on Facebook.
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So now everyone is in the same boat and there seems to be this, this love affair with, uh,
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with fame and, uh, and being liked, which I think fame is battery acid to the soul.
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It is the fame and fortune, the combination of the two, the most destructive thing to any
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You, you, we all know about, uh, young, uh, uh, popular figures in music or, or, or
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Hollywood and the, and then you read, they couldn't handle the fame and, or the fortune.
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I have actually, uh, said two things about this.
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One is I believe that fame is more difficult for young people to handle or even middle-aged
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I, and we all know people who have been addicted, but if you're addicted to fame, it's almost
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So I will go into a seventh grade class and I will, what do you want to be when you grow
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And then I, then I go, Glenn, you'll doubly love this.
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So I go famous for what, which they've never thought about in their lives.
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I say, well, what if you're famous for most hamburgers eaten great, not conquering cancer,
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Um, and it is a, it's weird because we are now entering a time where, uh, where you can
00:35:20.680
be the most genuine and the most real that people are starving for authentic people to
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Um, you know, just, I'm going to tell you, I don't really care what the consequences are.
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And yet our children are being raised on social media to pose.
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There's nothing real on social media and you can see it in the, you know, I remember I
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was in top 40 radio and it's when I knew I had to get out.
00:35:53.860
Um, I was doing, I was judging some, I don't know, cover girl modeling thing and they did
00:36:01.580
And then they also had, uh, young teenagers, uh, and preteens that were modeling.
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And I was so grossed out by the 12 year olds that were acting sexy.
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They were just, they were just reenacting what they saw people do.
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Now they're just, they're just acting like those people.
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Maybe you'll remember better than I, but it's very recent, like even within the last 10 days
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where there's a movie out and it's, yeah, Netflix released it.
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By the way, Netflix did not allow no safe spaces to be streamed.
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This great film, Adam Carolla and I are in about free speech.
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That's not okay for Netflix, but 12 year old girls twerking.
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We were talking about this earlier today on the radio.
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I don't know, uh, when it happened, but it is impossible now to watch anything that, uh,
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it does not cross every boundary, uh, that we would never have crossed 10 years ago that
00:37:42.720
There's got to be people in this country that still want to watch things that are good,
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funny, maybe a little edgy here and there, but, but are not pornographic, uh, and not,
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you know, has a, has a little higher brow than the F word.
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Well, I mean, look, your success is an example.
00:38:06.860
Uh, the, that, that PragerU, uh, gets a billion views a year and that 65% are under the age
00:38:14.420
of 35, you know, we have a pretty sophisticated stuff on the internet and it's, and it's drawing
00:38:24.360
I'll give you an amazing little piece of data, uh, because of the, I believe now I originally
00:38:31.620
called it the greatest mistake that, uh, humanity has made, not the greatest evil.
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I made that clear, but the greatest mistake, the worldwide lockdown, I, I was right.
00:38:46.700
I think it's gone from mistake to, to a crime, but, uh, in any event, wait, wait, wait, wait,
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wait, wait, I want to stop and talk to you about that.
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First of all, the biggest mistake I'm playing devil's advocate here.
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I think I can justify this in my mind, but how can you say this was the biggest mistake
00:39:07.900
And yet it was done by the guy, Donald Trump that you support.
00:39:15.880
Uh, he, he understood he was, he was in, uh, he was in no man's land.
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If he didn't call for it, and by the way, he has no power to enforce it.
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So it's almost irrelevant what he came out, it's governors and mayors, but, uh, uh, every
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If we didn't have a national lockdown, we should have done what Sweden did.
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Every country should have done what Sweden did.
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The virus, uh, will take a certain number of lives.
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We have, uh, ruined tens of millions of people's livelihoods.
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Uh, and in the, and in the name of pseudoscience.
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So now give me the second, give me the second half.
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Uh, in California that, uh, restaurants are still closed for, for in room dining is, is,
00:40:17.820
Uh, I do not understand how Gavin Newsom gets away with it.
00:40:23.200
The, the supine nature of the American people is one of the most distressing aspects of this,
00:40:30.460
that there, I had a rally three months ago in front of city hall, uh, in front of another
00:40:36.560
little man with great power, Eric Garcetti, the mayor of, of Los Angeles.
00:40:40.460
I spoke, uh, at, at a rally, uh, to open up Los Angeles three months ago, only 200 people
00:40:49.060
came, by the way, I hugged 40 people mask free.
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Uh, I, and one of the reasons is that, uh, I, I believe that I will be taken care of because
00:41:03.000
The, uh, this is one of the scandals of my lifetime that, uh, the, uh, the social media
00:41:30.040
So almost everybody is already taking it for malaria.
00:41:34.120
Um, I I'll tell you, Dennis, everybody in my family was diagnosed with COVID within two
00:41:41.140
Um, as soon as anyone in the family had symptoms, uh, I was symptom free, uh, but everybody else
00:42:02.580
So are you, anyway, I just, so I just want to, I, I, I, I remember one of my, uh, tasks
00:42:09.600
whenever, because of radio and speaking, I remember where the discussion began.
00:42:19.080
So, uh, because of the lockdown, uh, people could not go on Passover to Jews could not go
00:42:25.660
to other Jews' homes or non-Jews go to Jews' homes for past the Passover Seder.
00:42:29.880
So, uh, I conducted one on the internet, uh, with my, uh, a dear friend of mine who, who
00:42:36.180
is a psychiatrist at, uh, at UCLA Medical School.
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Uh, so I conducted this with my friend and I expected a couple of thousand people.
00:42:45.200
I'm only making your point about the hunger for quality.
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And you figure most of the views, very few people are alone.
00:43:16.060
So the, the, the hunger for, for quality, obviously this is key.
00:43:23.080
It's another, another time I come on your show, I will just, I can do an hour on one
00:43:29.840
The essence of communication is to be interesting.
00:43:35.820
I conduct orchestras and, uh, I, I, my whole life I have wondered why do I prefer this
00:43:42.240
conductor's Brahms fourth to this conductor's Brahms fourth?
00:43:47.720
I've been trying, why do I, I don't understand.
00:43:49.660
And then I realized this guy holds my interest.
00:43:56.240
If you weren't, you would be in a different field.
00:44:01.520
You can disagree with me, anything, but I'm interesting.
00:44:06.700
So you have to make a Passover Seder interesting.
00:44:09.820
A lot of religious Christians and religious Jews forgot to make their religions interesting,
00:44:21.840
Dennis, are you familiar with the world economics, uh, the world economic forums, the great reset?
00:44:32.380
Would you do me a favor sometime today, go to the world economic forum and look at the great
00:44:42.900
When you say it's criminal, um, I believe we have tied together, uh, several big organizations,
00:44:50.320
um, and the world economic forum is right there in the leadership role, uh, for the great reset
00:45:02.640
We're, we are, they are now talking about, uh, I can't remember exactly what they call
00:45:14.640
You might still own the company, but the government will tell you what to do with it.
00:45:20.520
And it is a global reset that they're working on.
00:45:29.540
Um, uh, so Dennis, um, you talk to me a little bit about the fight you've had with Google.
00:45:38.880
Um, and the, I, I, I've been saying recently on the air, voices have been silenced, um, recently
00:45:50.940
Uh, and it's, uh, it seems strangely to be no big deal for a lot of people.
00:45:57.300
It's a big deal when you silence somebody on the left or the right to me, I'm a free
00:46:04.200
Um, and I stand up for people on the left when they are silenced, uh, and people I vehemently
00:46:11.440
disagree with because that's when you have to stand up.
00:46:13.860
Um, but I've been saying recently that if the left wins and gets their way, um, voices like
00:46:24.820
yours, voices like mine, once Donald Trump stops being the giant flack jacket that he
00:46:32.620
has become and the attacks are zeroed back in on talk radio, et cetera, et cetera.
00:46:45.500
There is no example of leftists in power and free speech remaining.
00:46:57.000
Left, as I said, they're, they do, well, liberty, not just even, they don't, liberty is not a
00:47:06.120
Equality of result, not equality of opportunity.
00:47:11.940
In other words, it's the French Revolution versus the American Revolution.
00:47:15.740
That's, that's, or even now, I would say the Russian Revolution versus the American Revolution.
00:47:21.540
So there's no question, uh, look, uh, 50% of young Americans or 48%, uh, something, one
00:47:29.700
of the two, uh, believe, they say, oh, we believe in free speech, but not for hate speech.
00:47:36.480
But of course, that, that means you don't believe in free speech.
00:47:39.280
I mean, I'll give you an example, Glenn, uh, again, from my, from my Jewish background,
00:47:45.000
when I was a kid, Nazis, I mean, real Nazis, not, uh, conservatives called Nazis by leftists,
00:47:53.760
real Nazis with real swastikas marched in Skokie, Illinois, a suburb of Chicago.
00:47:59.900
The reason, because they're particularly cruel, was to march where a lot of Holocaust survivors
00:48:08.060
Uh, almost every Jewish organization that I, I could think of defended their right to
00:48:15.920
People who advocate essentially the genocide of Jews.
00:48:20.320
That is how committed people are and were to free speech in America, including myself.
00:48:27.820
Do you know that America is one of the only countries in the West that allows Holocaust
00:48:32.500
denial, which is one of the, you know, one of the most incredible lies in history.
00:48:37.460
It's the most documented event in history, the Holocaust.
00:48:40.400
And there are people, uh, because they hate Jews.
00:48:42.980
So they, they deny that the Holocaust happened in Europe.
00:48:46.640
You, you can actually be fined or go to prison for Holocaust denial in the United States.
00:48:52.960
Say that, you know, you could say, you know, that there was no slavery.
00:48:56.460
You can make up anything you want, but this is dying.
00:49:00.980
When, when, uh, when I was a kid and you, and I suspect you, you recall this as well,
00:49:08.920
uh, the commonality of, you know, well, I may not agree with what you have to say, but
00:49:14.540
I'll fight to the death for your right to say it.
00:49:26.580
Um, and I'm sorry, but I'm, I'm just pumping you for all personal information.
00:49:30.480
I'm, I don't know if this is good or entertaining for anybody or, you know, um, but I, I'm personally
00:49:37.740
Um, I have, I've studied revolutions for the last 20 years, uh, I have studied Marxist
00:49:55.380
And, uh, because of that, I was pilloried in, uh, public space for a long time by saying,
00:50:06.020
Uh, that's, it was not what you're seeing here.
00:50:12.140
What you're seeing in the Arab spring is orchestrated and it's being orchestrated by some very big
00:50:17.660
people, uh, and it's going to spread, um, and they're going to do the same thing here.
00:50:23.140
And we're going to be, we're going to be a bigger Israel and it will be the Palestinians,
00:50:30.380
It'll be the whomever against the United States and we'll be the big aggressors and yada, yada,
00:50:38.000
Um, as I look at things, I, I hope we don't go down these roads, but, uh, history will tell
00:50:50.840
I feel like, um, I, I don't, I don't, uh, there's no place to go.
00:50:59.180
So I can't be the Jew that jumped out of Germany so early.
00:51:07.480
We're the Jews of the Christian world and, uh, you know, our heritage with women and everything
00:51:15.040
else, they're going to, they're going to pounce on us.
00:51:17.460
They're going to be, we're going to be the first sacrifice and Christians will turn their
00:51:25.980
They think that we're not really Christians or whatever.
00:51:28.980
And basically the same, we have the same kind of, um, separation culture as the Jews do in
00:51:37.400
And I just think we're going to be the first of the Christians.
00:51:40.060
So your guys are going to be the first ones as Jews, but for Christians, we'll be thrown
00:51:46.340
Well, what do I, what do I look, what do I look, sorry, go on.
00:51:51.220
What do I, when do you say it's time to get out of Germany?
00:51:58.060
The very fact that we're even discussing this has got to be a shock to the system.
00:52:08.160
We, we, four years ago, let alone 40, we would not be having such a discussion because
00:52:14.280
nobody would, you don't think of leaving America.
00:52:19.040
You think of stopping, you know, a hundred million of coming in because this is the place
00:52:25.120
There is no guarantee that, uh, that the forces that loathe liberty will not take over liberty.
00:52:37.360
As I have been telling people at speeches and in my writings, my radio, liberty is a value,
00:53:00.640
Humans want to be taken care of much more than they want to be free.
00:53:09.220
In the good old Bible, which by the way, is the source of the problem because without the
00:53:19.200
The most Bible free place is the university and it is the most wisdom free place in America.
00:53:26.460
So I just, I want to, this is one plug I want to make.
00:53:30.220
I am, I know biblical Hebrew very well and I've been teaching the Bible all of my life
00:53:36.180
and I am writing a commentary on the first five books of the Bible.
00:53:40.220
The most important, if I can say, because everything is rooted.
00:53:44.800
Christianity, the rest of the Old Testament is all rooted in the Torah.
00:53:52.840
If people want to go to Amazon, they could read 1600 reviews of people, many of whom are
00:53:59.520
agnostic and said, this thing made me rethink my agnosticism.
00:54:07.320
I learned when I was 10, the Jews leave Egypt, they were slaves for hundreds of years, right?
00:54:16.480
They complain to Moses, let's go back to Egypt.
00:54:26.220
People rather be well-fed slaves than less well-fed, not starving, just less well-fed free
00:54:37.540
That is why the Bible is eternal, because it's rooted in human nature, and human nature
00:54:44.200
And one of the aspects of human nature that is eternal is that liberty is a value.
00:54:54.520
And you shall proclaim liberty throughout the land to all its inhabitants.
00:55:00.140
By the way, it shows you how the founders knew their Bible.
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He'll think it's a horse running in the third in Aqueduct.
00:55:14.900
And Deuteronomy is, I mean, that was the biggest source for any of our laws.
00:55:22.040
Dennis, first of all, let me give you a plug for your book.
00:55:27.280
I have read your books, your two books on the Bible, and I just think they are so important.
00:55:36.300
Unless you have, you can read the Bible and King James, but unless you understand it with somebody who reads Hebrew and understands all the oral traditions and everything else, you have absolutely, you've never read the Old Testament.
00:55:53.880
You've never read it, and it is your life's work.
00:55:59.560
And the rational Bible, because I only use reason.
00:56:30.300
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