The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 88 ｜ Megyn Kelly UNCENSORED： It's Not Time to Unify, It's Time to FIGHT ｜ Megyn Kelly ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

00:00:00.000 water cronkite once said in seeking truth you have to get both sides of the story the media is no

00:00:07.040 longer interested in both sides of the story sometimes they don't want either side not if

00:00:12.380 it contradicts with their own because worst of all they're not even interested in really seeking the

00:00:18.300 truth i know i've been there the media machine is so odious and so corrupt that when it in it when

00:00:26.260 it encounters an actual journalist it rejects them uh it's like the body rejecting a disease

00:00:33.000 that's exactly what happened to our guest today she's got so many walter cronkite qualities except

00:00:39.660 for the lean towards socialism kind of part um that she drives journalists out of their mind

00:00:46.940 she has a spine a soul she's got gumption fortitude tenacity she has a moral compass she has an eye

00:00:54.280 for politics an innate ability to say the right thing in the perfect way and she is one incredible

00:01:01.960 uh interviewer if i would not want to be on the side of a hostile megan kelly interview in an era of

00:01:11.800 fake news she cares about telling the truth and towards the end of this podcast you'll really

00:01:17.180 understand why she has become unwavering in this pursuit online and the media hates it for years

00:01:25.160 they've tried to silence her but now welcome to the freedom of the internet and welcome to the glenn

00:01:32.580 beck podcast this week's guest megan kelly i swear to you my wife is buying time on this program because 1.00

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00:02:39.660 megan uh you're known for the news you're known for incredible interviews um but i think you're also

00:02:58.320 known for being a great thinker and i i want to start with something a little more philosophical

00:03:04.600 where are we as a nation right now we're just about as polarized and divided as we've been in

00:03:13.480 several decades glenn um i mean i think we're definitely more tribal uh than we've been in a

00:03:19.640 hundred years the people have actually taken the hard looks at this to see and i think as opposed to

00:03:26.140 having a moment where we've come together after a difficult time corona or even the protests that

00:03:31.580 we saw with george floyd over the summer they've only driven us farther apart but i don't see the

00:03:36.120 bridge getting healed anytime soon people are retreating to their separate teams as opposed to

00:03:41.980 even wanting to find a way back to one another but isn't that brought on by something bigger than

00:03:49.520 individuals i mean george floyd i don't know a single person that disagreed i mean i agree with

00:03:56.500 the idea black lives matter i just don't believe in black lives matter inc um of course and the force 1.00

00:04:03.500 behind it the money behind it uh and the and the actual goals behind that particular group and there's

00:04:10.760 others like that but i don't know anybody who doesn't think that what happened was right and i think

00:04:18.240 we were together and then we were intentionally taken apart because it became political when when

00:04:26.620 the concept of black lives matter was introduced lowercase blm americans were on board right but then

00:04:32.700 it became political and if you look at the stats now more than 80 percent of republicans do not support

00:04:39.600 black lives matter okay so it's now and and most democrats do so now it's gone almost right down the

00:04:45.480 middle a partisan issue because it's been commercialized it's been politicized to the

00:04:50.020 point where the people who they're after are not racists they're republicans they're funding

00:04:56.260 democratic candidates they're trying to defund police which actually isn't a left-right issue but they'll

00:05:01.320 make you think it is um so they they blew the opportunity they had by overreaching i mean i know

00:05:07.980 people like mark cuban who was on my podcast tried to tell you it's just about a movement you know to

00:05:11.840 to improve race relations well that's that's pie in the sky stuff that's not actually true

00:05:16.840 if you look at what for example the seattle black lives matter movement put out like what are we all

00:05:22.100 about we are about defunding the police of course opening up all prisons dismantling the justice system

00:05:29.760 um attacking the education system they don't want a male female uh nuclear family i mean it's like 0.99

00:05:36.980 wow you've got a lot of work ahead of you but i think i'm going to withhold my donation until i

00:05:41.720 because i kind of want the criminals to stay in the prisons i call me i'm one of those suburban moms

00:05:47.120 maybe no i'm actually living in new york city but still i want the prisoners to stay in prison right

00:05:51.620 right weird like that right i you know i i said in 2004 uh when the democrats put michael moore

00:06:00.400 into the presidential box and i think jimmy carter was sitting next to him and i said democrats you

00:06:06.320 don't know what you're dealing with here you're dealing with uh a movement that is not mainstream

00:06:13.840 now this is michael moore but back then not mainstream you think you're going to use him and

00:06:19.760 others like him as fuel but they are going to eat you in the end um and i think that's what we're

00:06:27.160 seeing now that i mean the democrats have been playing footsie with these very dangerous groups

00:06:35.600 i guess thinking that it politically will help them but now they've got to try to put this back

00:06:41.560 into a into a bottle and i don't think they're going to be able to do it well that'll be the

00:06:46.880 interesting thing glenn because what's happened candace owens has been pointing this out and this 0.78

00:06:51.240 this is true as a member of the media i've seen it too every four years right before election time

00:06:57.140 they pick a case of a black male being unfairly attacked or or attacked for some reason by a

00:07:04.880 police officer and they try to gin up racial sentiments around it you know as opposed to

00:07:10.240 you know not highlighting the case of tony timba the white guy who had cops on his neck for 16 minutes

00:07:15.100 being totally brutal and they didn't care at all about him i'm not saying that's good i'm just saying

00:07:20.480 it wasn't a racial issue with tony yeah and you know a lot of people would argue where's the proof that

00:07:26.220 it was a racial issue with george floyd right like it's a presumption because the cop was white and

00:07:31.240 george was black but they presume that a lot and they really gin it up in an election year so

00:07:36.880 there's a real question about whether we're being manipulated and honestly the media has a huge role in

00:07:42.880 it the media takes a tape and they roll it over and over and over and over again and i think the average

00:07:49.460 america has no idea that in 2019 the number of black men who are unarmed who were killed by police

00:07:58.200 if you give the washington post its revised number because it revised them upward when they realized

00:08:03.660 people were going to look at them it's about 15 depending on which cases but it's about 15 that's

00:08:08.220 being charitable to them 15 the cops make 11 million arrests a year 11 million okay and the number of

00:08:14.520 white men who are killed who are who don't have a weapon and keep in mind they consider you unarmed

00:08:18.880 if you have a weapon in your glove box and you're driving you're unarmed according to these stats um

00:08:24.180 is much higher but they say okay well black people only comprise you know 13 to 14 percent of the

00:08:29.980 population and there's it's a higher percentage than that but you have to look at the crime rate

00:08:34.220 you have to look at the crime rate of black men who are usually the ones in this situation you look 1.00

00:08:39.380 at that you're a racist so this is how it goes right downward spiral from there facts are still

00:08:44.580 knowable and the media has an obligation to present them with context right instead of just putting a

00:08:50.820 video on loop to mislead people into thinking like lebron james said that black men are getting hunted in

00:08:56.780 the streets by police which is a lie right um so is i mean i used to be much more charitable towards

00:09:04.300 the media that i am now i mean i saw the same games played at cnn that i saw played at fox

00:09:10.460 and it's if you like television news it's great it's like sausage you don't ever want to see it made

00:09:18.300 because i've seen it from the start to finish and it rarely resembles what it started out as um

00:09:26.540 and i used to be more charitable well people you know everybody has their own kind of viewpoint and

00:09:32.700 they're kind of you know they're trying struggling then i started realizing they're not interested

00:09:37.440 they're i mean i don't know how many how many interviews i have done where the person looking

00:09:42.280 at me who's interviewing me has absolutely no interest into what i'm going to say they have

00:09:49.620 their list of questions they're going there they've already made their mind up and they just go

00:09:55.080 now i wonder they're not trying to learn yeah they're not there they're not trying to learn

00:10:00.780 yeah i mean it's like and even now not only are they not trying to learn they're afraid

00:10:05.140 to ask follow-up questions if they're on a dicey subject i mean i i remember sitting this summer

00:10:11.260 i was doing my makeup and i had the tv on and allison camarada uh of cnn who used to be at fox 0.98

00:10:17.240 was interviewing some woman and who was in favor of defunding the police and allison said well you know

00:10:24.000 i have young kids and what's going to happen who am i going to call if in the middle of the night

00:10:28.140 somebody breaks in my home and the response was that's your privilege talking well you know

00:10:33.880 whether it is or it isn't my privilege wants an answer like allison asked no follow-up to that

00:10:39.660 why because she's scared she's scared if she asks any father she's like holy shit maybe it is my white 0.99

00:10:44.660 privilege talking oh my god i've got to check my privilege i don't know like i mean if i had been

00:10:48.660 there or i would have been like okay sure my privilege wants an answer right now what is it supposed to do

00:10:53.280 who's my privilege because i still got the three kids in the back whether you shame me or you don't

00:10:58.140 but nobody will do that because they don't want to be called a racist they don't want to be called

00:11:00.880 an elitist well i don't buy that i'm sorry i don't buy that i've been called a racist for 15 years

00:11:09.900 i don't feel like there's a racist bone in my body maybe there is i mean i'm with the we all have our

00:11:17.040 own uh you know problems but i really try to be open-minded i i will not tolerate this garbage

00:11:28.000 it doesn't stop me it doesn't stop you so what is the deal with what 95 of the journalists

00:11:36.560 that are they're just going along with what's happened over the last five years well i think

00:11:44.520 it's a couple things i think number one they believe in that same ideology they're on board

00:11:49.440 a lot of them are not center left they're left and it makes them feel better to demonize others

00:11:58.340 to try to say i am better i am the anti-racist i am the anti-sexist and just by demonizing people 0.58

00:12:05.580 who don't think like i do i feel better so they like to have people like that on who affirm their

00:12:10.460 worldview and make them feel better than um but i also think for those who aren't fully bought in

00:12:15.540 they're afraid yeah they're afraid they're going to get they're going to get fired they're going to

00:12:19.260 say the wrong thing you can get fired now for liking a president trump tweet i mean you can

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00:14:48.060 no i hate to well i don't put you in the collective we here but people like me i mean when i was at fox

00:14:56.040 i spoke my mind i said the things that i you know i said at fox i think president obama is racist no

00:15:04.720 wait that's not quite right he just seems to have some sort of deep-seated hatred for the white culture

00:15:12.360 well what i was feeling and i and i just realized this in the last year what i was feeling that i

00:15:18.980 didn't understand was critical race theory so did we play a role in this or were we exposing the truth

00:15:29.940 i don't i don't see it quite like that i don't i mean i'm i'm proud of the work i did at fox news and

00:15:35.800 i also think in general the fox news mission is a good one you know to give voice to the voiceless which

00:15:41.600 is half the country to remind people that they are not alone that 71 million people in this country

00:15:48.880 feel as they do 74 million voted for biden 71 million voted for trump you're not alone no matter

00:15:54.440 what the media tells you or hollywood tells you or big tech or corporate america but listen i'm not

00:16:00.400 going to say that everyone's perfect you go on tv and the nature of cable is a little freewheeling

00:16:04.880 sometimes you say things that aren't perfectly well phrased yeah and and the the beauty is you

00:16:10.980 can go on and clarify or apologize if you feel you need to and that's all appropriate what's not

00:16:15.980 appropriate is trying to ruin someone correct having one of those moments that's what the other side

00:16:23.340 does correct the quote left capital left the established media that wants to make themselves feel

00:16:29.180 better as though they've never made and never will make a mistake and i think the average people

00:16:34.980 you know sitting out there watching this are disgusted by them and but but it's become so ubiquitous

00:16:41.360 they sit at home thinking am i crazy am i am i maybe i am the one maybe every thought i have is awful

00:16:48.180 like like that's what they're telling me correct you know that's why the fox news mission is a valid one

00:16:53.700 if very imperfectly executed our mission right now in this digital world is also the same let me let me

00:17:00.220 just throw in on the fox news mission i've always believed that and i know that was you know the the

00:17:07.240 understanding when they were built i don't think that's the understanding you can't have neil cavuto

00:17:12.500 last night or a couple nights ago say uh let's uh let's stop taking the white house press person

00:17:19.940 because that's dangerous stuff we don't want to listen to that who if if i went and said okay well

00:17:25.960 i do want to listen to that i want to judge for myself i don't even know where i would go to get

00:17:31.280 it but i know that if i got it and reposted it i'd be demonetized or i'd be throttled by one of the

00:17:37.900 social medias what happened to this idea that there is no church you know there is no uh catholic church

00:17:47.400 saying no the world is flat right where is the other where's the other side we can't express it

00:17:55.220 now well i agree with that i mean i tweeted out about this i thought that was wrong and i thought

00:18:00.720 it was wrong when the network news anchors interrupted trump you want to fact check the president great

00:18:06.120 that's what a journalist should do i have no problem with that you wait until he's offered whatever

00:18:11.100 statement it is he has to offer correct you're not you're not the papa you're not the daddy of the

00:18:16.460 viewer right you're the news anchor you don't get to interfere in in that relationship between the

00:18:22.640 president and the people and if we want to open that door glenn where's that going to end you know

00:18:27.920 i tweeted out do you imagine if we had done this when we knew we knew it was untrue that if you like

00:18:33.960 your plan you can keep your plan if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor do you have any

00:18:37.980 idea how many times i could have been i could have interrupted i could have pulled him off the air

00:18:42.840 so many times to say that's not true and guess what that's really dangerous right because kaylee

00:18:49.200 mcenany worst case scenario is undermining your faith in the electoral process barack obama is is

00:18:55.640 going to take away your health plan and your doctor and actually put lives at risk right with that lie

00:19:02.180 which at the time we knew it was untrue we just didn't know if he knew it was untrue so i never called

00:19:08.400 it a lie and then the reporting came out he knew it was untrue and that's what leads me to say it was

00:19:14.760 a lie and he knew it was a lie when he did it and we let him tell it and then we fact checked him i

00:19:20.820 don't know who they think they are cutting off the president the press secretary so and i think that's

00:19:27.040 got to stop and i and i think you know if roger else had been there he he would have had a talk with

00:19:30.880 oh he would have had a talk um absolutely the um

00:19:36.200 the the scary thing here is and i don't know i was just talking to dave rubin about this last week

00:19:44.540 and i said dave i i find myself in this really weird position to where

00:19:53.380 i take people i mean i said on wabc in 1999 there'll be blood buildings and bodies in the

00:20:01.520 streets of manhattan in the next 10 years and osama bin laden's name will be all over it

00:20:07.120 because i take people at their word when they say they're going to do something that's crazy

00:20:13.940 they usually do it if they have the opportunity so when i look at the truth and reconciliation project

00:20:22.060 and i look at this movement where they're saying that we have to shame these people out of polite

00:20:30.760 society make sure they never work again i i look at that and i am struck by something i never understood

00:20:40.540 in history until now what what were the german jews thinking in 1930 to 1934 i mean they told you

00:20:52.000 what was coming and i think they may have been thinking something similar that we are

00:20:56.880 they don't really mean that that's never going to happen here people are never going to do those

00:21:02.780 things to we're different are we different well we're different than nazi germany yeah i know i know

00:21:10.880 but but we're not different as people when you just keep letting bad ideas and people just go

00:21:20.000 unchecked don't you you can be an optimist and be realistic at the same time you can be somebody who

00:21:26.820 hopes that somehow people will appeal to their own better angels and act well but be realistic about the

00:21:33.320 evidence in front of your face and i completely agree with you on this accountability project being

00:21:38.760 started by former obama biden guys yep um how they're going to come and get not just the people

00:21:44.620 who worked in the trump administration which is bad enough okay not just them like sure let's let's go

00:21:50.140 get let's make sure rick grinnell the first openly gay guy to ever work at the cabinet level in the united

00:21:56.000 states let's make sure he never works again sure let's get behind that that makes a lot of sense

00:22:00.380 okay so let's put the cabinet officials in this the trump administration officials to the side

00:22:04.900 absurd as that is they're saying they're going to go after any trump enabler enabler okay so that

00:22:11.180 means voters that means anybody who's sending out pro trump tweets and not only they're going to try

00:22:16.460 to stop you from getting a job by blackballing you or threatening your employer they're talking about

00:22:21.180 how if you want to write a book good luck because we're going to go to the publisher and we're going

00:22:24.900 to say we will blackball that book and we will blackball and boycott every single book in your 0.68

00:22:29.880 entire library but go ahead sign a contract with him it's insane and so you have to be realistic

00:22:36.020 about what they're saying they're going to do and trust them because you know what they did with this

00:22:40.080 accountability project glenn is they kind of lifted the dress up you know like they kind of they showed

00:22:44.560 it they showed it all you know they said the thing out loud that they normally don't say in here in new

00:22:49.880 york city where i live that voted i think it was 87 democrat in the presidential election um that you

00:22:56.200 know better than to start talking about something good trump did in any society or the cocktail party

00:23:02.440 picking up your kid from school anywhere not just because you know you're someone's going to recoil

00:23:07.580 in horror but it could be held against your kid or you in some way can you imagine having said it openly

00:23:14.620 and now having people like this feel emboldened because their leader has ascended to the top and you

00:23:19.900 know they're getting their list together and they've got the support of the media it's not just

00:23:23.500 these activists the media number one would support it anyway you saw the jake tapper tweet oh yeah

00:23:28.880 number two is openly saying that jennifer rubin that lunatic at the washington post crazy washington 1.00

00:23:34.380 post democracy dies in darkness oh but the light has come out glenn she actually said we have a list

00:23:44.020 and anyone pushing bogus claims of voter fraud okay so if you're looking into that right now

00:23:49.980 is going on the list and it will no longer be hired at a corporate board level be able to publish a book

00:23:56.480 or be accepted into polite society okay so if it's jennifer rubin's polite society we're good

00:24:03.720 none of us wants to be there so you have truth is you have you have people in the washington post you

00:24:12.220 have people in new york times you have robert reich saying it you have a website now run by some pretty

00:24:18.140 big names that are now gathering names they've taken the names down but just a couple of days ago

00:24:24.060 they were all posted there but they realize they overstepped by posting the names um but they are

00:24:30.300 serious how is that different than a small little group of people um you know in in a foreign country

00:24:38.540 in the 30s saying we're gonna get these people these people these communists have to go

00:24:43.900 the only difference is power it's escalating because uh six months ago even three months ago

00:24:51.380 especially three months ago over the summer crazy i don't know about you but i had so many people

00:24:55.100 coming up to me saying like i don't know this is how i feel right they don't want to say it out loud

00:25:00.220 anymore people are already getting afraid to say how they really feel because you've been called a

00:25:06.820 racist i've been called a racist i mean we're kind of used to it now if you're at all affiliated the

00:25:11.360 right wing you've been called a racist after time it just doesn't have the same effect on you

00:25:15.340 but think of your if you're a civilian it still has a massive effect on you and you'll do anything

00:25:20.980 to avoid it and you certainly don't feel comfortable saying i don't support black lives matter i don't

00:25:26.760 believe in their crazy mission which is to defund police which by the way will hurt black people more

00:25:32.500 than anybody else they don't they don't want to say it so we started off with the you know the

00:25:36.800 the underground conversations and even out in hollywood you know for a while they had um

00:25:41.140 friends of abe right the underground hollywood folks who they can never say that they're

00:25:46.400 republican never they had to meet underground and sort of see that they weren't alone and now it's

00:25:51.840 escalating to above ground now joe biden's elected it's so so it appears and they're saying

00:25:58.600 it out loud they're they're proud of it they're they're openly declaring what they're going to do

00:26:02.680 to the other 70 million and so far other than a few people saying hey what people are pretty quiet

00:26:10.600 about it they're going about their day they may not realize that they're coming for you okay let

00:26:14.960 me take a second to talk about uh not free america this is a new book that is out and you're going to

00:26:20.840 love it it is written by mike donovan is the guy who has fought tyranny for years he um is the actual

00:26:27.620 founder of the nation's largest pro bono civil rights law firm and i used to i mean you used to

00:26:33.580 think that civil rights were just like the left they were you know i have a right to put a crucifix 0.65

00:26:39.760 in urine well civil rights are becoming more and more important and uh they have been infringed upon

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00:27:33.680 today tell me what this election really says to you assuming joe biden is our next president it was a

00:27:40.500 close election um and and joe biden is i mean don't i do not mean this in a mean way i remember

00:27:49.480 my grandfather when we had to take his keys away from him and that's where joe biden is in his life

00:27:55.780 and i don't say that with any malice in my heart i really don't i think it's sad to watch a man who has

00:28:02.080 been great i don't agree with any of his policies but he has been a leader for a very long time and to

00:28:08.120 watch him fade like this and to be pushed into into this um as we're as we're looking at half the

00:28:16.980 country voted for a guy who's slipping and a guy they think is going to be moderate even though

00:28:24.400 everyone around him is is radical and they voted against i don't know if they voted for him or just

00:28:33.780 against the chaos i think there was a lot of people that just said i can't take the bickering

00:28:40.000 and this guy is just gonna he sees not red states and blue states he sees the united states and that's

00:28:46.120 where we're going is there going to be a wake-up call if he's not that guy

00:28:51.100 yes because i think the way i interpreted the vote was they did reject wokeism that's why the

00:29:02.460 democrats lost 10 or 11 seats in the houses in the house that's why it doesn't look like they

00:29:06.620 have control of the senate uh you know we have the two runoffs in georgia but the republicans have

00:29:10.920 never lost a runoff in georgia ever um so we got that going that's why they lost at the state level

00:29:16.020 i do think the the rejection of trump in those 74 million votes was about trump's personal behavior

00:29:24.700 yes and not about his pushback against these things which they don't like and i think that's why

00:29:30.000 the people who really did trump in were college educated suburban suburbanites uh women in 1.00

00:29:36.820 particular but also men if you went to college and you live in the suburbs you didn't vote trump

00:29:40.680 and what is that about that that's about you know chaos at the white house uh pepper spraying people

00:29:48.540 you know who are protesting outside of the white house and then denying you did it so they can have

00:29:52.080 a photo op with the bible you know uh the many lies that he would tell for no reason like the crowd

00:29:57.100 sizes which we all knew wasn't true like just erratic behavior that makes i think a lot of

00:30:02.020 women i know say um i'm not sure i'm not sure and i don't really want my kids seeing and then maybe

00:30:09.940 we'll just go with the old guy who says he'll just do the one term and he's always been moderate he's

00:30:13.820 about 50 years to prove that so he's gonna move my chips over here just for this one time and then

00:30:18.600 we'll see and i'll keep him boxed in because i'm gonna vote uh republican down to him

00:30:22.980 i i think that a lot of people that i know felt that way up until really kavanaugh then things

00:30:31.760 started to change i know a lot of people even to this day even me i don't like defending trump's

00:30:38.540 behavior i don't there's this just i can't defend it um however you should you don't have to right

00:30:45.100 but however there has come to me in the last year or so um a thought that really only he he's a

00:30:56.780 ticking time bomb and he just blows things up whenever he's in the room and i was so concerned

00:31:02.980 in 16 when people said i just want to burn the whole thing down and i was like no no no no no you

00:31:08.140 don't no you don't it's taken us 240 plus years to build this let's not burn it down um but in a way

00:31:16.620 i think that's what he did he exposed the media he exposed the um deep state if you will that there's

00:31:26.880 something going on with our intelligence community state department our justice department there's

00:31:33.080 something going on we never got to the bottom of it but i think because he was such a ticking time

00:31:38.640 bomb they reacted so viscerally that they exposed themselves do you agree with that or not no i do

00:31:46.860 i mean i think that's that's some of the good that trump did right you know i think that's why when he did

00:31:51.500 his crazy stuff in the primary back in 16 or 15 leading into 16 on the stuff he said about john mccain

00:31:57.900 going after a gold star family nine month campaign against me for one debate question all his weird

00:32:03.860 these weird choices he made people loved it why because they wanted to see a gold star family attacked 0.77

00:32:10.000 absolutely not because they didn't think john mccain was a war hero absolutely not it was this guy

00:32:16.600 doesn't give a fig right he will be the wrecking ball look at him he doesn't care what anybody thinks

00:32:23.660 of him i mean that's that's the weirdness of trump he does really care but he doesn't behave like

00:32:27.880 he cares right um and they were right that's why when he got to washington he broke every conventional

00:32:33.640 norm and really did shake up a lot of industries and showed us the truth and the media is the best

00:32:40.160 example of that because they were always anti-republican and they they always had an agenda but man did he

00:32:47.440 pull the veil off and now i think most clear seeing people can can list five examples off the top of their

00:32:54.280 head of you know journalists they thought were objective who are actually left-wing activists

00:32:58.980 but i think that you know the 57 percent of suburban college educated people who are like no some of

00:33:06.180 them are yes liberal but the ones who are republican were like he's good got our three supreme court

00:33:11.420 justices knocked down a bunch of things that needed knocking yeah yeah but like we're gonna leave the rest

00:33:17.260 of the things standing so do you don't think there will be any pursuit of the hunter biden stuff that's

00:33:24.400 over do you think i think so i i think so i actually i would like to see it pursued he's closer to power

00:33:30.920 now than he ever has been oh yeah and you know hunter he does not i've said this about trump it's true

00:33:37.900 hunter too does not have an adult relationship with the truth or ethics or morality or straight

00:33:45.200 financial dealings and that's a problem joe biden better keep him nowhere near well i think the

00:33:52.240 white house and we better be focused on him like a laser otherwise he's gonna get another

00:33:55.780 burisma deal going i actually feel bad in some ways very little um for hunter because i think he is um

00:34:03.880 uh what's that uh hbo show uh with the family that's clearly the murdochs uh oh succession yeah

00:34:13.440 succession is clearly the murdoch that's very much i mean you can look at the biden family and it's it

00:34:19.440 seems kind of like that that he's this son who seems to be put through the ringer by a dad at least

00:34:28.920 according to the emails between uh hunter and the family this is the way he looks at it that he's

00:34:36.320 kind of carrying the weight and dad you know takes 50 percent of it but i'm keeping this family going

00:34:41.800 uh any comment on that so i i i don't see it like that um succession is amazing by the way i can't

00:34:50.700 wait till it comes back it's such a good show it is um the family there is beyond repair it's so

00:34:55.920 damaged and so messed up look i interviewed joe biden and jill biden when joe released his book

00:35:00.700 um and i guess it was fall of 18 i want to say and i read his book cover to cover and you read the

00:35:07.820 book and you close the book and you think this is a good man this is a good man and he's been through

00:35:11.860 a lot in his life and i think his son beau was a good man and was on his was on the rise uh as a

00:35:18.340 force in politics um i think hunter has a drug problem i think he has a crack he has a crack

00:35:24.240 cocaine problem and i don't know about you but i've had people in my family who have had addiction

00:35:28.620 problems and it's it is like having a nuclear bomb go off in your family i mean the people who

00:35:33.300 you know and love and trust and know have good hearts will lie and cheat and steal and ruin and

00:35:39.340 wreck everything and all you can do is feel totally powerless next to them so i the way i see it because

00:35:46.180 he's he raised a good son with you know model behavior and he raised another son who's had real

00:35:51.560 struggles and very open drug problems i don't see that as joe biden you know is a succession type dad

00:35:58.840 i see that as um he had the misfortune of drugs coming into his family and but the problem has

00:36:04.140 not yet been resolved and hunter biden is now really close to a really important power circle

00:36:10.980 so you're not and we do need to be assured he's not going to continue this behavior and you're not

00:36:14.740 you're not you don't see any validity in the the china deals and the backroom deals oh no i don't

00:36:22.200 know okay i'm not ruling that out okay to the contrary okay i think there's more than enough

00:36:27.240 reason to keep looking yeah we've had independent witnesses come forward to validate the emails and

00:36:31.900 say this was the deal i just think that if you read there first of all there are lovely emails from

00:36:37.260 joe biden to hunter that i could relate to as a family member of somebody who's an addict just

00:36:42.340 expressing love and trying to remind the person right they come from a place of love and they

00:36:46.500 have people who will support them what you see in the emails is hunter is bitter and feels put upon

00:36:52.620 and i've got to go out there because my dad's apologetic and i've got to earn all the money

00:36:55.620 yeah and honestly like to me i'm like that's an addict talking like that i'm not attributed all to

00:37:02.740 that i'm just saying having read the book having interviewed joe biden having learned a fair

00:37:07.540 about about their family i i don't i think he's a good dad who's struggling with a kid who's

00:37:12.160 in a lot of trouble and that doesn't excuse what hunter biden did though and we as the media need

00:37:16.980 to look into it a to find out whether joe biden himself did anything untoward in these business

00:37:21.700 deals and b to make sure we know what we're getting one step away from the oval office um i only talked

00:37:28.140 to roger ales a couple of times after i left fox one of them was when you were being dragged through

00:37:34.000 the mud and i called roger because i watched that and i thought where's the roger i know that doesn't

00:37:40.980 allow anyone to beat up on his hosts and i called him and i said roger what's happening why why is

00:37:50.480 why aren't you circling the wagons around megan here uh getting beat up because of that question

00:37:56.700 his answer was i he's you know trump is trump and he's i was shocked uh by that behavior from fox

00:38:07.640 because there was no protection of you what was your last what was your last week or so what did

00:38:13.520 it feel like being well completely as seemingly completely alone at that time yeah this is when

00:38:21.220 trump was coming after me um it was extremely stressful it was it was not a good time for me

00:38:28.420 professionally and as a result personally because the security threats got big it wasn't just like

00:38:33.980 the normal death threats you get as a public leader so sadly that is a thing that i got used to it was

00:38:39.360 like criminal profiles coming in from serious security agents letting me know i'm security and

00:38:47.060 people showing up at my house um in the middle of the night in the middle of the day uh a lot of

00:38:53.180 examples of confronting me on the street with my kids had to go to disney world with armed guards so

00:38:58.720 it was then they're done that it was when it comes to yeah security you i remember you when you left

00:39:04.960 you were surrounded by like six security guards it was crazy so it's sometimes the life of a public

00:39:10.180 figure and certainly trump had made me way more of a public yeah then um and in a negative way like he was

00:39:16.160 attacking me it was interesting go ahead go ahead at first i understood rogers the pickle he was in

00:39:24.820 because he was trying to keep what was then the breitbart wing of the fox news viewership and keep

00:39:31.540 more national review wing of the viewership right sort of the more intellectual republican wing and then

00:39:38.420 like you know working class let's fight it out in the and he didn't want to do anything that's going

00:39:44.540 to alienate the breitbart wing because that was trump's core and even more than trump steve bannon

00:39:50.940 who i have absolutely nothing but bad things to say about thank you um thank you more than i have not

00:39:59.220 a lot of people i have more than bad things to say about him yeah yeah not one of them no he's a

00:40:05.640 genuinely bad person yeah genuinely bad yeah and will soon be in federal prison from the way things look

00:40:11.020 so great um anyway so he was really ginning it up i mean he was the one who'd get the campaigns going

00:40:17.420 and like the worst things were being posted about me that were threatening and awful and genuinely

00:40:22.080 misogynistic blah blah blah so at first i understood roger and then it went on and on and on and he

00:40:28.560 wouldn't say anything and trump kept ramping it up yep um and i'll tell you this i think roger was

00:40:35.420 worried about the viewership and how that would affect him i think we later found out that roger

00:40:40.540 had his own vulnerabilities that he might have been worried somebody knew about like trump i don't

00:40:44.840 know i think i want to say i want to say one other thing about it yes you do yes you do because let me

00:40:53.800 tell you after i asked that debate question roger didn't speak to me for months from and he didn't

00:41:00.380 speak to brett and he didn't speak to chris wallace he was mad and i was the closest to him of that trio

00:41:06.640 and finally he called me in there tried to hold it in didn't want to let it out and then finally he

00:41:11.700 could control himself no longer and he went off on me about the question and he kept saying to me glenn

00:41:17.840 this is a just a perspective for the audience about a year before ailes would go down thanks to the

00:41:23.580 sexual harassment scandal against him and he kept saying to me how could you never know what he could

00:41:28.800 have come back at you with you know he could have turned the tables on you and said what have you

00:41:32.640 done and i remember sitting there like that would have been fine i know okay yeah but now and even

00:41:40.080 when i was sitting there with with ailes i knew he had harassed me but i wasn't thinking oh he's

00:41:45.340 worried about himself because he must be a serial harasser i didn't even come to my mind because i put

00:41:49.320 that in the rearview mirror years ago i always just attributed to he wanted to have an affair with me

00:41:54.500 it wasn't that he was a serial harasser so anyway i know he was mad about the question what i wanted

00:42:00.060 to say is third point the the best statements that came out of fox during that time that really did

00:42:05.540 stand up for me were from irena briganti oh my gosh who i know she's a complicated person and i mean 1.00

00:42:13.220 she's come after me and i've had serious problems with two of us but i will say she's the only one who

00:42:22.800 really had my back and now i spent a couple of years at nbc let me just say i would have loved

00:42:30.480 to have had a longer relationship with irena briganti than i wound up having she knows how to fight

00:42:36.860 yeah i will tell you that that is the one thing about her is she's the press one of the press people 0.96

00:42:41.560 at fox and uh and that's the one thing that fox did well and that's why i questioned where are you

00:42:48.560 roger uh on megan because they know how to fight um and they will fight internally their own people

00:42:56.540 uh sometimes if they turn on you it is it is ugly uh i can i tell you something the best statement she

00:43:02.640 put out like the fiercest statement fox put out roger was in the hospital he was having his back

00:43:07.200 operated on and it came from her directly and and she did get her hand slapped after it was done so 0.96

00:43:12.500 that's sort of explained some of the conflicting messaging so i i i've heard you talk about nbc and

00:43:19.160 i don't want to get into all of this but you said that you went over there they offered you a buttload

00:43:23.460 of money you were you know wine and dine and you just wanted to be a mom and have a normal life which

00:43:31.300 you're clearly not having when you when you do what we do in in news especially at night and primetime

00:43:38.640 um and i i looked at that when you did that i was like wow i hope that works but i

00:43:47.300 i i don't know how that's gonna work should have called me i did i i wrote you several times um

00:43:55.240 uh and uh uh and i i i was encouraging to you i think if i'm not mistaken while you were doing

00:44:03.580 always been a sweetheart yeah um when you were doing the show but uh when did you know when did

00:44:09.100 you go oh crap this is a huge mistake hmm that is a good question um i guess you know it was a boiled

00:44:21.080 frog situation where it took a couple it took a couple of you know minutes in the increasingly hot

00:44:27.120 water for me to figure out not only is it not working but it's just it's awful you know my life

00:44:34.000 is awful and i'm no one sees me clearly here you know no one no one understands who i am and there's

00:44:40.380 not a willingness to amongst my critics um so i did the alex jones interview and that really threw me

00:44:47.020 because everyone and their mother had interviewed alex jones mainstream journalist in the new york times

00:44:52.100 and um the new yorker i think it was and pierce morgan on cnn moments like very soon after he had

00:44:58.780 said these crazy things about sandy hook being a hoax no one cared everybody thought it was right

00:45:04.700 pushback and so then but then i did it and it was like ah you know it was like i was devil woman and um

00:45:11.940 i didn't understand it was like six of the newtown families did object to that interview um but 19 of

00:45:18.080 the families were either very pro my doing it because they wanted to see him held to account

00:45:22.240 finally right or were neutral anyway so that was a that was a tough one and then you know jane fonda

00:45:29.160 was an ass that was kind of fun i enjoyed that one watch that episode that was crazy oh it's so good 0.72

00:45:34.740 i can't stand her and i do it 10 times over yeah um then there was weird like deborah messing came 1.00

00:45:41.320 after me i'm like who is this person i also like being on the opposite side of her but it was just

00:45:46.280 sort of one after the other you can see these far left people what do those two people have in

00:45:49.120 common they're far lefties um and i think the time i was really like this is out of control was

00:45:55.520 i did a segment about um there was a woman who had fat shamed other women who hadn't lost their

00:46:02.080 baby weight soon enough and she just got she caught holy hell on the internet as she should 0.66

00:46:05.320 have then she a year went by she gained some weight she felt sorry and she did a mea culpa she

00:46:10.080 came on my show i'm like you know that was kind of bs she's like you're right and she really

00:46:14.360 started to beat herself up so i gave her a little you know a lifeline and i was like you know what

00:46:18.980 that kind of shaming that kind of talk it does work for some women i said you know i used to be 1.00

00:46:24.140 one of them when i was in law school i lived with my mom and my stepdad and whenever i was going for

00:46:28.240 more food at 11 o'clock at night i used to ask my stepfather to call me a name like a fat ass on the 0.73

00:46:33.520 way to the kitchen wow and it worked i mean you megan mccain the view wendy with all of them like

00:46:42.800 yeah you hate fat people and you want them shaming like bullshit i that is what i did for myself when 0.69

00:46:50.420 i was 19 or 20 it's none of your damn business how i stay thin i'm a perfectly healthy person

00:46:57.840 and i was like this is nuts right like there is nothing i can say that won't get filtered through

00:47:04.100 the least positive and generous so so anyway it just sort of seemed like a place that was

00:47:11.760 totally unenjoyable like what i was doing was making me miserable and you know i said to i think

00:47:19.600 it was ben shapiro you know sometimes when you're dying death by a thousand cuts yeah the machete is mercy

00:47:26.320 yeah now you don't need to elaborate on this but i'd just like to know the the contract they paid

00:47:34.660 a lot of money and i for one celebrated was it was it a very good day when you

00:47:42.640 when they slid that contract over and you were like you know this might have been worth the year

00:47:52.680 year and a half well as you might imagine there are certain things i'm not permitted to discuss

00:47:58.660 but i will say this as you know i practiced law for 10 years and i have an amazing lawyer named

00:48:06.260 brian friedman who i highly recommend and i also discourage anyone from effing with me because i will

00:48:11.860 sick him on you and it will be all and uh there are very good reasons i feel that way about him and 0.70

00:48:20.460 that's all i'm gonna say okay um let me just go back to you know the regular news here the supreme court

00:48:27.660 um

00:48:28.840 a i don't understand how anyone had a problem with amy coney barrett

00:48:36.060 unless you want the constitution to be a living document that will say whatever you want to

00:48:42.640 legislate from the bench but she seems rock solid to me you get the same impression

00:48:48.020 yes i'm very pro amy coney barrett very pro and a lot of my liberal friends um who are lawyers who i

00:48:56.000 went to law school with have sort of said to me how should we feel about her and i said you should feel

00:48:59.880 good yes she's going to be like scalia but she's not going to be out of control she's not going to be

00:49:04.480 somebody who's going to be making up new law right at most she's going to i don't see that in the

00:49:08.780 constitution she's going to kick it back down to legislators right we're supposed to up with new 1.00

00:49:13.840 laws that's not threatening that's not threatening um and by the way you know my real view of it is

00:49:19.440 he gets the pick he wants sorry the way it has worked since time in the moon so that there's

00:49:26.920 the biggest person who he likes and if it's a republican it's going to be more of a conservative

00:49:30.860 ideology and vice versa on the other side when you see um joe biden talk about oh there's lots of

00:49:38.060 ideas we can you lifetime appointment but not necessarily a supreme court we can move people

00:49:43.660 around they're talking about packing the courts all kinds of new ideas to try to um to correct what

00:49:52.100 they call packing the lower court uh because obama didn't finish the job in appointing judges didn't

00:50:01.120 get them through how how how is america going to respond to that and do you think they'd actually do

00:50:07.380 that i don't i don't think he has the will or the desire or the guts because it would be it would make

00:50:15.360 the kavanaugh confirmation hearing look like a day at the park can you imagine how hard the republicans

00:50:20.680 would fight against that and if they win control the senate they don't have to worry about it um

00:50:24.360 i do not think he'll do it i think he's governed as a moderate and he used to head up the senate

00:50:30.100 judiciary committee and i think he understands the high court knows that would be eliminating

00:50:35.080 the supreme court we would have no no more supreme court as an effective measure because it would have 0.97

00:50:39.520 zero credibility it would just become a political institution no one would listen to the rulings it

00:50:43.880 would be the unspooling of the top of the third branch of government so i don't think joe biden's

00:50:48.280 going to do that and i think this is really this is really an idea that was dreamt up and thought of

00:50:53.700 by jeffrey toobin who should have been focused more on how his zoom works instead of crazy things we

00:50:59.420 could do to the high court um is there i'm trying to figure out megan i you know when i worked at fox

00:51:10.840 we started the 912 project and i did that thing in washington dc and it was about letting people know

00:51:16.560 they're not alone and there is hope and it's not through the political system it's just not it's

00:51:22.360 if we just recognize yes the truth of who we are who we've always tried to be and know that

00:51:29.780 our constitution doesn't say to form a perfect nation it says to form a more perfect nation and

00:51:36.860 so we should always be striving for that knowing that we'll never get there and we're never perfect

00:51:42.700 we never was we never were and we probably never will be but as long as we keep moving forward

00:51:48.320 i'm trying to find a way to where we put this thing back together and there are really angry people on

00:51:59.820 both sides and uh if you push and push and push and call somebody horrible names for too long

00:52:11.960 they just don't know what else to do especially if they're being silenced and they have no one

00:52:19.420 speaking for them how do we how do we put this back together especially if you do start to see things

00:52:31.400 being pushed through that that are unconstitutional and they just keep moving forward how do we respond

00:52:39.680 i've been thinking about that all week because you know joe biden came out and tweeted this thing

00:52:46.500 out which i responded to and then the left lost his mind they get so upset because they're still

00:52:50.620 wondering if i'm on their side i'm not and if you're on the right you're wondering if i'm on your

00:52:54.480 side i'm not i'm on the side of truth right um and reason but the left can like the right is like

00:53:00.220 okay and the left is like ah how could you you're supposed to hate trump he attacked you right you're

00:53:06.200 betraying us anyway so i gave joe biden and biden a hard time for this but it's coming out of him

00:53:10.200 and top democrats unity unity healing like in fact what joe biden tweeted was united strengthened

00:53:19.620 healed oh just that's all it takes he just had to win he didn't even have to get inaugurated right

00:53:24.260 just like hey we're healed oh well no not true and even if it was aspirational though grammatically

00:53:30.120 incorrect um it's not gonna happen and and i don't think it's a bad thing i liked the 912 project and

00:53:38.620 i actually don't think you get nearly enough credit for thinking the way you do glenn you're always

00:53:42.940 looking for solutions always solution oriented and and honestly i've known you a long time i've

00:53:48.380 listened to a lot of what you said the vast majority of which has been healing and kind and loving and

00:53:53.400 well intended you you've stepped off the rails a couple times as every public figure has the only

00:53:58.540 difference is when you're of fox news or of the right or you know anything not left people are

00:54:03.880 watching and ready to demonize you so i understand the unity thought but i really think we should be

00:54:09.920 focused on something else right now and that is liberty that's the goal right now and maybe if we

00:54:16.560 can work on liberty we can get back to unity but what's happening is an erosion of liberty in the

00:54:21.660 country you back to our earlier discussion you used to be able to say what you wanted to say

00:54:27.520 in this country think what you wanted to think in this country be who you wanted to be in this

00:54:31.720 country and not have to worry about losing your job your friend circle um your ability to engage in

00:54:39.400 polite society jennifer rubin and now it's changing so now i think and i would have said this prior to the

00:54:46.520 presidential election it's time to fight now is not the time to unite what's being shoved down our

00:54:51.900 throats is wrong and submission to this is not okay you want your kid to grow up in this nonsense

00:54:58.180 he can't say anything without getting fired he has to sit in order to have a corporate job or a job in

00:55:04.760 the government and be told he's a racist because he was born with white skin through no fault of his own

00:55:12.180 that's the price for being an upstanding member of the society no no i refuse and as douglas murray says

00:55:21.580 i think it's time that we start standing up and saying i refuse to let you do this to our society

00:55:25.660 refuse to let you revitalize us divide us and take steps back by 50 years it's not time to unify it's

00:55:34.140 time to fight one last thing we've got about five minutes left and i just i i saw you say that dennis

00:55:43.460 prager made you cry and that's why you wanted to do a podcast how did dennis prager and adam carolla

00:55:53.920 make you cry no one's ever said that to those two guys so i saw it was not long after i left mbc

00:56:03.000 and i was still reeling you know now i'm fine and you know i sort of have a good perspective on that

00:56:08.340 whole ordeal but make no mistake when it happened there were there were very rough nights and a lot

00:56:14.260 of tears shed not not at the loss of mbc but just at the public humiliation and you know everybody's

00:56:20.400 calling you a racist in the paper and your kids got to see this and it's upsetting you know it's

00:56:24.480 not true you know it's unfair but like it doesn't do you any good to say that no i know the people who

00:56:29.280 love you they didn't believe it anyway and the people who want to believe it want to believe it so

00:56:32.800 you're in an impossible situation but so i was still in that phase and mark joseph who directed

00:56:39.400 this movie no safe spaces and produced it invited me out i was in la and he said why don't you come

00:56:44.240 by i'll give you a screening of it so i went with some other random people i didn't know and uh sat

00:56:48.700 there by myself like in my little area and there was a scene in there about evergreen college up in

00:56:55.040 the pacific northwest of washington state yep and this is where brett weinstein became a household name

00:57:00.000 for a lot of folks where he was a professor who stood up to say i don't think it's fair because

00:57:05.120 what happened was the black students had been having a sick out every year to remind white people

00:57:09.540 what i could be like without black people voluntary then one year they said now we want to change it 1.00

00:57:16.240 now we want you white people to stay home and brett weinstein a liberal professor at this college

00:57:21.920 as they all are uh said i think that's different it's different when one race is saying

00:57:27.700 to every one of the other race don't come to support me and my cause that's it that's really

00:57:34.280 all brett weinstein said like i don't i'm not sure that's the same and is a good idea they treated him

00:57:40.420 like he showed up to class wearing a clan hat oh yeah the the police on campus said it's too dangerous

00:57:46.960 we won't protect you the students were spitting mad at him calling him a racist and everything

00:57:53.920 they could under the sun but the moment that got me glenn i mean it was already building up i'm

00:57:59.540 watching the whole thing like oh my god oh my god where are we where are we why are we doing this

00:58:04.160 one another was there was a black student a young girl 18 who liked him she was one of his students

00:58:13.980 and she wanted to cross the quad i guess to talk to him just to ask him why did you write that letter

00:58:20.000 and the mob was so disgusted with her they shouted her down and they get this woman in their clutches 1.00

00:58:30.460 and the next thing you see in the movie is it was either later that day or the next day

00:58:35.140 she is made to read an apology in a written note card they've given her and she she's not a very good

00:58:45.080 public speaker her reading aloud skills need needed improvement and she kept stumbling stumbling on

00:58:51.440 the words which had clearly been written by somebody else and they humiliated her for what

00:58:57.920 for just wanting to ask him why he did this thing that was utterly non-controversial but had been made such

00:59:06.620 by a group of activists who when given an inch will always take a mile and i i had tears i wept

00:59:14.920 at what happened to her what happened to him lost his job what happened to me what's happening to us

00:59:23.520 to our country that was the moment glenn that i said i'm gonna get off of my damn couch and i'm gonna 0.81

00:59:31.660 get back out there and i'm gonna do it in a way that i control it and i can say what i know millions of

00:59:38.780 people also feel i can stand up to these bullies not just for me but for everyone who feels like

00:59:45.060 they can't say anything anymore and that's why i'm totally committed to this show to this mission

00:59:51.680 and when i wake up and i go to do the show every day i feel totally joyful and i don't care what they

00:59:58.680 say about me what they write about me what they threaten me with i'm good i will tell you when i left

01:00:04.380 fox uh roger said you're not really leaving for that internet thing and he just didn't see the

01:00:11.040 vision at all and i said yep i am and it is freeing and i saw a picture of you dancing in a free shirt

01:00:20.600 a shirt that said free or freedom feeling free yeah and and i can relate to it but i'd like you just to

01:00:26.840 voice what you meant by it something like it feels so good to i have it here feel so good to be uh free

01:00:35.480 of corporate media or something like that uh being outside of it's fun being outside of corporate media

01:00:43.540 what what's the difference for those who don't know so many you know one's trying to tell me what to say

01:00:52.880 or how to lean or what story selection i have to choose or what guests i can or cannot put on

01:00:58.260 um no one's trying to attack me inside of my own workplace or destroy me or create a picture of me

01:01:05.180 that has no bearing at all to who i really am and separate and apart from that and i also love just

01:01:12.180 the direct relationship with the audience it's direct it's so authentic and meaningful and if they tune

01:01:17.600 in it's a real relationship between me and them they don't they don't listen to me because i

01:01:23.020 followed o'reilly they listen to me because they want to listen to me so i love that but i also have

01:01:27.120 to say the digital world is fun it's it is joyful cable news is stressful and dark and i think if you're a

01:01:36.200 viewer you know it on some level you don't feel good when you turn off these shows nope and you're not

01:01:41.720 meant to you're not you're not meant to stoking outrage pays the bills digital it's i'll just give

01:01:47.620 you one example it was election night and i was doing a lot of digital stuff and oh no it was one

01:01:52.940 of the debate nights i was doing a lot of interviews and podcasts and stuff like that and i i did one with

01:01:57.240 steven crowder who's a rip and um he was wearing silk boxer underwear and like a boxer's robe made out of

01:02:06.500 silk red white and blue and i we did an interview like that and i'm like i love my new world my new

01:02:13.040 world is so much more fun than my old world oh yeah i love brett bear but this would never have

01:02:16.720 happened between the two of us yeah exactly right i just think it's more like how real people live

01:02:22.400 and it's not stodgy and it's not judgmental it's freewheeling and it's fun and it's the future

01:02:28.320 megan thank you so much always good to see you god bless thanks for having

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The Glenn Beck Program - November 14, 2020

Ep 88 ｜ Megyn Kelly UNCENSORED： It's Not Time to Unify, It's Time to FIGHT ｜ Megyn Kelly ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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