The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 99 ｜ Tulsi Gabbard Confronts Dangerous Smears of Our Military & Conservatives ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

00:00:00.000 The guest today was so horrified by the 9-11 attacks that she enlisted in the National Guard.

00:00:06.800 She was 21 years old, and at the time, she was serving as the youngest woman ever elected to the Hawaii House of Representatives.

00:00:16.460 She often describes a moment during basic training when she stood in formation and she looked at all of the other soldiers around her.

00:00:23.780 She said, I didn't see Democrats, Republicans, Independents, conservatives, liberals.

00:00:27.640 I didn't see black, white, or brown.

00:00:30.560 I didn't see different religions.

00:00:33.160 She said, all of those things she didn't see, because all she saw were Americans, all in the same uniform, all serving the same flag.

00:00:44.420 She learned to place country before self as she was serving two tours of duty.

00:00:50.240 In 2012, she was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives.

00:00:53.620 She was the first American Samoan Congresswoman and the first practicing Hindu member of the U.S. Congress.

00:01:01.460 Nancy Pelosi at the time called her an emerging star.

00:01:05.600 Then she ran for president, and she did something that the parties either side don't like you to do. 0.95

00:01:12.400 She challenged the establishment. 0.99

00:01:14.400 As a Democrat, she challenged the Democrat establishment on national television.

00:01:22.500 As you can imagine, or if you remember, the blowback was enormous.

00:01:26.380 Hillary Clinton called her a Russian operative.

00:01:29.320 The media was all too happy to spread this outrageous narrative.

00:01:34.720 We're going to dive into all of that, I think, but a lot more.

00:01:39.800 This conversation is exactly what I had in mind when we started the Glenn Beck podcast.

00:01:44.580 I don't know how much I agree with Tulsi Gabbard's viewpoints on policies, but I think we have principles in common.

00:01:56.980 Today, Tulsi Gabbard.

00:01:59.340 Tulsi, I don't know how many people watch this or how many people listen to it, but I feel like I'm talking to a movie star.

00:02:19.500 The plants behind you are so beautiful.

00:02:22.780 You look so great.

00:02:23.700 This is the nicest production value anybody has done on Skype, I think, in the history of the world.

00:02:29.860 Welcome to the program.

00:02:31.060 This is what happens, Glenn.

00:02:32.260 Thank you very much.

00:02:33.360 There's two major factors here.

00:02:35.620 Number one is I'm so grateful to be home here in Hawaii, and this little slice of grass and flowers is thankfully in our backyard.

00:02:46.240 And number two, my husband's a cinematographer, and he happens to be a perfectionist.

00:02:50.480 So it works out.

00:02:51.760 I can spot him in his work a mile away.

00:02:55.880 So I want to start here, and I don't mean this to be an uncomfortable question, but I think a lot of people, especially on the right, maybe some on the left, have no idea how to relate to you.

00:03:10.220 Because I don't know if you're a lefty who has come to Jesus, so to speak, or if you're a lefty that, you know, just doesn't hate America.

00:03:24.020 Or if we're all misreading you, are you somebody who has turned a corner, or are you just somebody like, honestly, and I've bet on one of these,

00:03:39.740 are you somebody that we don't see anymore, which is somebody willing to talk to anyone and willing to call out any side when they disagree?

00:03:56.100 Which one are you?

00:03:57.240 I love our country, and I have dedicated my life in service.

00:04:04.880 You know, I realized from a very young age that I was happiest when I was doing my best to be pleasing to God, to serve God.

00:04:14.320 And what better way to do that than to serve God's children and work for the positive, you know, impact and well-being of all of God's children and our planet.

00:04:26.200 And so, as I have approached politics, specifically, as you're talking about, that is my motivation.

00:04:34.860 And perhaps because I'm not motivated by partisan politics or power or all of the other things that we see, unfortunately, pervasive within our government,

00:04:47.480 people are a little confused about how I approach different issues because I'm not looking at them through a partisan lens.

00:04:54.720 I'm not looking at them through, you know, what are the political ramifications going to be and then making a calculated decision based on that.

00:05:03.060 So, you know, I have and continue to look at issues based on the issue themselves, examine the pros and cons,

00:05:10.780 and try to do what's best for the American people, as I've served in different elected positions, both in our state legislature here in Hawaii,

00:05:17.960 our Honolulu City Council, and then in Congress for the last eight years.

00:05:22.200 And then, of course, in the presidential campaign.

00:05:25.640 And sometimes those positions may seem a little bit more left.

00:05:30.880 They may seem a little bit more right, a little conservative.

00:05:33.680 It's hard. People have had a hard time placing the label on me, as you've alluded to, which I don't have a problem with because I don't really like labels.

00:05:40.780 Right. And I don't either. I mean, I think people slapped a label on me when I was at CNN.

00:05:47.200 I was fine. As soon as I went to Fox, I was the Antichrist.

00:05:50.980 I said exactly the same things at both places.

00:05:54.860 And it is hard because we are hit.

00:05:58.060 We're hit with so much information now and you don't know who to trust.

00:06:03.400 And you it's easiest to put people in little boxes and you just don't know what to do with people that don't fit in a box.

00:06:13.020 I've always found that great. 0.97

00:06:15.100 The problem with that is, is there's a lot of people who are just lying bastards when it comes to just, you know, saying whatever they have to to to to to gain, you know, a foothold here or there. 0.98

00:06:31.840 I don't think that's you because you have paid a very heavy price with the Democrats by saying what you have said. 0.98

00:06:41.240 But I'm I remember my father and my grandfather.

00:06:47.940 They were on different sides of the aisle and my grandfather was a Roosevelt Democrat.

00:06:56.380 I mean, all the way, you know, it was still Roosevelt in the office, no matter what year it was to him.

00:07:04.400 But I remember them having great conversations.

00:07:07.380 I remember them getting along.

00:07:09.600 I don't ever remember hearing he did anything.

00:07:14.740 But we don't have that anymore.

00:07:17.940 Which is the sad thing.

00:07:20.940 And and as you know, the example you're giving is is within within families.

00:07:24.680 You know, we've seen families being torn apart, you know, families being broken up because of of political differences or one member of the family voted for Hillary Clinton.

00:07:37.160 The other member voted for for Trump.

00:07:38.760 And that was that was, you know, a line too far.

00:07:42.360 That was a deal breaker.

00:07:43.260 And it is it is so sad to see because it takes us away from kind of the fundamental identity of who we are as Americans in this country that was built on the foundation of freedom and freedom of expression.

00:07:58.900 Freedom of speech, having a robust and diverse marketplace of ideas that we can have discussions on issues and maybe find some some new perspectives that we didn't consider previously.

00:08:10.460 Or maybe we walk away saying, hey, you know what, I agree to disagree, but I respect you because I know the same place of care and love for our country that I am.

00:08:20.840 And we'll find a way to work together.

00:08:22.680 OK, that's that's what's missing in Washington.

00:08:24.420 That's what's missing in the leaders of our country today.

00:08:27.040 So I agree with you here is here's here's where the rubber meets the road.

00:08:36.420 You and I have both have a love for the country.

00:08:39.800 We have a love for the history.

00:08:41.300 We will defend the freedom that it represents.

00:08:45.140 What I'm trying to get my arms around is there are those people who are uber left or how do I say it?

00:09:00.960 Very, very liberal, not classic liberal, but very, very liberal who believe in gigantic government programs, et cetera, et cetera, that I don't.

00:09:09.780 But they still believe in the Constitution.

00:09:14.320 They still believe in the fundamental framework of America.

00:09:19.360 I don't believe Bernie Sanders does.

00:09:22.820 And I know you worked with Bernie.

00:09:25.580 He is he is.

00:09:27.560 I think he's on the light side of the fundamentally transform America.

00:09:34.580 We have people now that are saying the same things that Bernie Sanders says, and they want to fundamentally change that framework.

00:09:43.700 No capitalism, you know, a giant, all controlling government.

00:09:50.800 Where do you fall in in this?

00:09:54.540 I took an oath both as a soldier and as a member of Congress to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

00:10:05.940 And I am firmly rooted within within that Constitution and our Bill of Rights that that speaks to these inalienable rights that have been granted to every single one of us by our creator.

00:10:22.260 And that cannot be taken away by any man or woman or person within our government and fundamental to that understanding of our Constitution is that recognition that every one of us, that we are all God's children and that we have been granted these rights by our creator and not by anyone else.

00:10:43.100 So when you're coming from that place, then we're able to have real discussions on that common ground and understanding and recognition.

00:10:54.760 What I think so that that's where I'm coming from.

00:10:57.200 What I see troubling, extremely troubling and dangerous, increasingly so within our government, is whether it is a lack of care or a lack of understanding or a complete dismissal of our Constitution by a lot of people in power who believe that it is within their right.

00:11:17.020 Right.

00:11:17.360 As elected leaders to decide which of our rights we're allowed to have, which they will choose to take away, what speech is allowed to be shared and whose voices or ideas or views should be censored.

00:11:33.140 And this is this is what we're seeing now increasingly coming from within our government, but also from from big tech monopolies and others, people in positions of power.

00:11:44.040 And this is taking us so far away from our fundamental identity and this foundation upon which our our country was built.

00:11:52.120 So I want to I want to, if I can, frame frame our conversation around the Bill of Rights, because I think the Bill of Rights being violated in 100 different ways, at least, is the core problem that we're having right now.

00:12:09.060 The fundamental misunderstanding, the fundamental misunderstanding, the misinterpretation and the dismissal in many cases of the Bill of Rights.

00:12:17.140 So I'd like to talk to you about that.

00:12:19.320 But I I want to first ask you this question.

00:12:22.160 And it's a military question.

00:12:25.920 I don't understand what's happening with our military right now and this administration.

00:12:32.300 I find it extraordinarily offensive that we are on a stand down position to weed out radical right wing terrorists or right wing extremists.

00:12:47.940 I don't even know what that means.

00:12:50.200 And I find it offensive.

00:12:52.900 What you serve two terms.

00:12:56.120 Did you see a problem?

00:12:57.560 Do we have a problem with extremists, domestic extremists in our military like that?

00:13:05.960 Oh, I think we first have to start with with something that you pointed out, which is a question that I have asked is what is the definition of extremism?

00:13:15.620 Right.

00:13:16.460 Because how how do you go?

00:13:18.740 And I'm again from a military perspective and I'm still serving.

00:13:21.740 I'm I'm almost 18 years now in the Army Reserves, still serving as a civil affairs officer.

00:13:27.140 And so when I look at things from that military mindset and you're saying, OK, well, we've got a problem that we've got to root out.

00:13:35.280 You first have to actually define what that problem is.

00:13:39.220 Or if you're talking about an enemy like Al Qaeda, for example, you first have to understand and identify that enemy, what their ideology is,

00:13:47.420 what they're seeking to accomplish in order to go in and defeat that enemy.

00:13:51.660 I see what is happening here to be so dangerous because these terms, extremism, domestic extremism,

00:14:00.880 these sorts of things are being thrown out without any real definition at all.

00:14:06.400 And so, you know, an extremist from a well, we're seeing this work for an extremist from somebody who's coming from the ultra left in politics could be somebody who has an American flag in front of their house who says, I love my country.

00:14:23.160 Right.

00:14:23.480 And it could be someone in New Hampshire who has a live free or die flag, you know, could be someone who is an evangelical Christian or a practicing Hindu who's a very devout practitioner of their spiritual practice.

00:14:38.380 So who is defining what extremism is?

00:14:43.940 This is the problem.

00:14:47.100 I'll just finish that sentence.

00:14:48.380 Yeah, go ahead.

00:14:48.820 Without defining it, then what we're seeing is a very dangerous targeting of a broad swath of America by who.

00:14:59.540 And really this comes back to, OK, well, this depends on who's in power.

00:15:02.880 And that definition, that definition can change depending on which way the political winds blow or the power shifts.

00:15:09.940 We had a hard time the first 10 years of this century.

00:15:16.920 We argued over and over again, extremists, not extremists.

00:15:20.660 You're a bigot.

00:15:21.380 You're not a bigot over Islam.

00:15:24.860 And from the beginning, I don't have a problem with Islam.

00:15:28.740 I don't have a problem with Muslims.

00:15:30.180 I have a problem with Islamicists. 1.00

00:15:33.840 That is a very specific category that believe that government needs to be run by mullahs exactly the way all of the way they interpret the Koran.

00:15:48.100 And it's extremist.

00:15:50.340 It is extremist.

00:15:51.560 It's incompatible in incompatible with any kind of freedom.

00:15:55.840 And it's exclusivist as well.

00:15:59.940 I'm sorry to jump in, but it is that specific Islamist, that radical Islamist ideology is an exclusivist one that says, 0.99

00:16:09.340 if you do not adhere to our interpretation of the Koran or Islam, then we're going to kill you, we're going to behead you, or enslave you. 1.00

00:16:21.760 And this is the ideology that fuels terrorist groups like al-Qaeda and ISIS. 0.99

00:16:26.480 And that exclusivism is, I'm pointing out, because it's so dangerous in, you can see some hints of that with what we're seeing now,

00:16:34.880 where if you do not adhere to our ideology of who's in power, then you don't get to speak.

00:16:42.400 I have to tell you, I don't think, and I haven't heard people talk about this in mainstream media.

00:16:47.420 I honestly think that many Americans think there were so many games that were played in the last election that you don't know.

00:16:59.360 But nothing was ever shown that had real teeth to it.

00:17:05.400 And even if there was a lot of, you know, game playing and fudging, I don't know if there was enough to prove it.

00:17:13.360 And the Constitution doesn't, it doesn't take your best guess.

00:17:17.760 And once it's over, it's over.

00:17:21.320 There's no redress constitutionally, even if we found a giant, you know, black bag full of all of the evidence.

00:17:28.380 There's nothing constitutionally you can do about it.

00:17:31.140 And I really, truly believe that people do want to unite.

00:17:35.820 They're tired of this.

00:17:37.120 But as we come out of it, everyone who voted for Donald Trump is now being called an extremist.

00:17:47.600 You can't even question the vote.

00:17:51.800 I'm not questioning it because I want Donald Trump to be president.

00:17:54.540 I want the election process to be safe and effective and right.

00:18:03.440 I want to make sure we protect for future elections.

00:18:07.120 But when you see you've got we want to unite, it is that isolationist kind of thing.

00:18:15.480 You to unite.

00:18:18.240 All you have to do is just believe what I believe.

00:18:21.120 Be on my side.

00:18:22.100 Yeah.

00:18:22.620 That doesn't work.

00:18:24.500 That doesn't work in life.

00:18:26.200 That doesn't work in marriage or family. 1.00

00:18:28.540 Right.

00:18:28.900 I mean, at some point, if that's your view in marriage, you are going to get a divorce or you're going to chop your husband into little pieces.

00:18:36.760 You know what I mean?

00:18:37.540 It's not.

00:18:38.240 It doesn't work.

00:18:39.260 At what point do both sides get to that point to where they say.

00:18:45.080 I keep asking on the air for both sides.

00:18:50.360 You don't like it.

00:18:52.380 Fine.

00:18:53.400 But if everyone on the other side is your enemy, then what?

00:18:59.180 Because you get all of the power like the Democrats have right now.

00:19:03.600 Then what?

00:19:04.440 You still have half the country that doesn't agree with you.

00:19:07.160 So you either and it's quite frightening.

00:19:10.600 You either have to silence them, re-educate them in some way or another or round them all up.

00:19:19.060 So you've been in the Democratic committees and been around people.

00:19:24.940 Let me ask you.

00:19:26.540 So then what?

00:19:27.540 The words that Joe Biden spoke in his inauguration speech spoke very strongly to this message of unity.

00:19:41.860 Yes.

00:19:42.080 Spoke very strongly to this message of reaching out specifically to all Americans, including those who did not vote for him.

00:19:50.900 There's a heavy weight of responsibility on his shoulders and on the shoulders of those in power currently.

00:19:58.980 Democrats in the House and the Senate need to turn that rhetoric into action.

00:20:04.680 But unfortunately, and this is what's so disheartening, is that we're not seeing that.

00:20:09.140 In fact, we're seeing the exact opposite.

00:20:11.740 To hear, again, my last day in Congress was January 2nd.

00:20:16.300 And within just a few days to hear Nancy Pelosi and the other Democrats in Congress talk about the Republicans, the quote unquote enemy within, was so deeply troubling and dangerous.

00:20:32.940 Yeah.

00:20:33.380 Because of where, because of what it is, but also where that leads.

00:20:37.020 How can you expect to heal the wounds of this country when you're castigating those in the other political party as the enemy within, which then if you carry that through, says that if any Democrat is caught talking to making or, God forbid, working with a Republican on legislation to solve problems, then you're working with the enemy.

00:21:00.720 What does that make you?

00:21:01.440 That makes you a traitor.

00:21:02.720 Right.

00:21:03.040 And this just, I mean, it flies in the face of, again, everything that our country is founded on.

00:21:10.100 And, you know, the kind of decorum that I think the American people would expect from leaders in Congress, if not respecting their colleagues, at least respecting the voters who sent them there.

00:21:22.100 And that's what it is, when you start dehumanizing and vilifying others in the way that is happening now, you are dismissing and throwing up the middle finger at the millions of voters who sent them there.

00:21:42.120 You are, you know, they keep saying that right wing extremists are the source of problems while not defining them.

00:21:53.280 And yet using brushstrokes so broad that everyone who didn't vote for Biden feels like they might be included in that.

00:21:59.460 And it is almost like you're just getting poked in the eye with a stick every day and they want you to react.

00:22:08.760 I mean, I couldn't design a plan better to get people to rise up against you, which leads me to this question.

00:22:19.300 I am. I was totally fine with Biden having a very safe inauguration.

00:22:28.600 I thought the troops there was a little overkill, but OK, I don't want anything ever to happen to the president or anybody in office.

00:22:37.100 We have to safeguard that. But why are they still there?

00:22:41.640 Have you ever done a mission that was undefined, was an undefined enemy, undefined goal, undefined period of time?

00:22:53.240 I don't I didn't think the Pentagon ever allowed that to happen until now.

00:22:59.200 Is this unique?

00:23:02.000 In my experience, it is unique, especially here at home.

00:23:08.060 You and I have talked before we could have another conversation about interventionist regime change wars that have ill-defined objectives overseas with with, you know, unending deployments.

00:23:21.420 But when we're talking about a mission here at home and I have been deployed in these domestic response missions before we had an active volcano.

00:23:29.480 National Guard went to respond.

00:23:31.860 Obviously, there are flooding and hurricanes.

00:23:34.380 There are very specific missions that our National Guard soldiers have been deployed to go and serve a purpose and then get back home to their lives and their families.

00:23:45.180 I was really disturbed to see on many levels the what I think it was around 20,000 at one point.

00:23:54.400 Yeah.

00:23:54.760 National Guard soldiers deployed there to our nation's capital.

00:23:57.500 Again, like you, we want inauguration, the president, we want people to be safe.

00:24:04.220 But it seemed like a very disproportionate response that sent a dangerous message to the American people and, frankly, to the world of I mean, is our nation under attack from the American people?

00:24:18.220 Is that really what's happening here is is is this really put in place to kind of foment fear amongst our own people that our government is somehow farther and farther separated from us?

00:24:31.380 And, you know, some of my friends are sending me pictures still of the, you know, the fences and the concertina wire, barbed wire and the patrolling of troops out in our nation and not really knowing if or when when this is going to end.

00:24:47.840 And with some saying, like in the post 9-11 era, the security measures that were put in place were never reduced.

00:24:54.980 And now that this may just be the new norm.

00:24:57.020 Now our capital will only be open to people who who work there and everyone else will be treated as a, quote unquote, threat.

00:25:04.260 But but I also want to talk real quick, Glenn, because I missed I missed answering your earlier question that that really does hit home to me.

00:25:11.440 You asked if in the military I had I had experienced being surrounded by white supremacists or, quote unquote, extremists, whatever that means.

00:25:19.000 And the answer to that question is no, never.

00:25:21.620 I've served now for almost 18 years and from basic training in Fort Jackson, South Carolina, back in 2003,

00:25:30.480 I've served it in a number of military bases across the country in Oklahoma and Texas and Pennsylvania and South Carolina and many different bases.

00:25:39.480 I've been deployed twice to the Middle East, worked with troops from across our military.

00:25:45.480 And in my experience, it has been a representation of Americans from all different backgrounds.

00:25:54.400 Yeah.

00:25:55.340 Different political ideologies, different views on things.

00:25:59.420 But but as you said in your opening, when it came right down to it, when it was time to execute that mission, it's it's team America.

00:26:08.320 We are putting service and country in the American people above any other, you know, superficial differences or.

00:26:14.460 Yeah, of course, we have debates talk all the time about different things and we come at issues from a different perspective.

00:26:18.860 But we wear that same uniform that has the American flag on our arm with great pride and great privilege and honor to have to to to to be given that opportunity to serve.

00:26:31.360 So that's what I thought you would say.

00:26:33.720 And I, I agree with you.

00:26:36.700 And it's dangerous.

00:26:37.520 It's dangerous for them.

00:26:39.240 It's sorry.

00:26:39.900 It's dangerous for them to.

00:26:43.280 And I read this headline after headline day after day to cast this suspicion.

00:26:49.440 Yes.

00:26:50.860 Over our military as though this is now who our military is when when nothing could be further from the truth.

00:26:58.620 And it is the only institution that has been pretty much unscathed.

00:27:05.160 You know, we don't believe in our justice system.

00:27:07.320 We have questions about our police.

00:27:09.100 We don't trust Congress or the Senate or the White House.

00:27:12.740 Who do we trust?

00:27:14.420 The only ones that have constantly been up at the top of the military.

00:27:20.660 And now I don't know.

00:27:22.980 I mean, I, I believe our military is just like, you know, the Baker's Association of America.

00:27:29.820 I'm sure there's some bad people in there and there's a majority of good people because that's what America is.

00:27:37.100 So they've got their bad apples.

00:27:39.140 But this is not that we're not looking for a few people. 0.92

00:27:42.580 I mean, the, the, the, the new attorney general, when he was testifying, said this is a more dangerous time than the Oklahoma City bombing for homegrown terrorists and white supremacists and right wing extremists.

00:28:05.020 Excuse me.

00:28:06.940 What?

00:28:08.300 Yeah.

00:28:09.660 Yeah.

00:28:10.420 The, the, the, the, so white supremacy, there's a very specific ideology and definition of, of what white supremacy is.

00:28:22.620 Right.

00:28:23.060 I mean, you look at those who, which really is that definition.

00:28:26.820 It is those who believe that being white is a superior race and that those who are white should be the dominant race.

00:28:36.500 And, and, and you see that ideology adherence in, you know, the KKK and, and, and Nazis and those who, who follow that, that ideology that, that you and I and virtually everyone would recognize needs to be denounced and defeated.

00:28:53.720 And you can defeat that ideology with, with a superior one that points to the fact that we are all God's children.

00:29:01.420 We are all brothers and sisters.

00:29:03.300 We are all equal, no matter the color of your skin, your religion.

00:29:05.680 I mean, we, we get back to Dr. King saying, let's judge each other on the content of our character.

00:29:10.400 So that's a very specific thing, but what's dangerous.

00:29:13.840 And, and I've seen, I've seen throughout my time in the military, you know, you get, you get asked questions.

00:29:18.180 You have to literally fill out petitions and, and, and, and you know, are you an adherent to, I forget the exact language, but basically trying to say, okay, let's, let's find those who, who may be those few dangerous people.

00:29:31.800 Who follow this ideology and may try to carry it out in a violent manner.

00:29:36.160 And that, that's really, I think that's really where there, there may be an area of concern, but what's dangerous now is, is the term white supremacy is, is really being thrown out and attached to everybody, anybody who voted for Trump.

00:29:50.800 Right. 0.94

00:29:51.940 People who are white, you know, apparently now all white people are racist.

00:29:56.180 Uh, it's, it's being thrown out in a way that, um, that, that allows and enables those in positions of power to abuse that power and target, target Americans, uh, whether it's with surveillance or, or, you know, all, all of the different tools at their disposal, including those that Adam Schiff is proposing in his new domestic terrorism legislation, which is incredibly, incredibly dangerous.

00:30:22.800 And, and, and, and, and very much unconstitutional when you look at it from a civil liberties perspective.

00:30:28.520 So that brings us back to the constitution.

00:30:31.700 Let's, let's just go through a few things.

00:30:34.300 First amendment.

00:30:35.440 There are five freedoms guaranteed in the first amendment.

00:30:39.340 Let's just start with the freedom of press.

00:30:42.640 There is talk now of, of silence.

00:30:46.020 There's Congress members wrote a letter this week and sent it to Comcast, AT&T, Amazon, Facebook, Google, and said, if you're still doing business with Fox news and those like Fox news, we want to know why.

00:31:05.020 Uh, I've, I, I mean, this is outrageous.

00:31:08.960 Can you, can you define the first amendment's freedom of press and freedom of speech?

00:31:18.400 Because I think we have a misunderstanding in America.

00:31:24.320 Uh, I think you and I clearly understand what that means, but it is scary that members of Congress, uh, who were in charge of powerful committees that regulate these media entities.

00:31:36.800 Uh, seem to not have that understanding at all.

00:31:41.860 Congress does not have the constitutional authority to tell any media agency, uh, what they can have on their airwaves.

00:31:52.760 They don't have that power.

00:31:54.400 But this letter I read as a clear signal of intimidation.

00:31:59.460 Oh yeah.

00:31:59.860 Uh, that somehow Congress may try to levy or exercise some kind of authority to bully, uh, whether it's, you know, AT&T or Time Warner or the people that they say it's Hulu that they sent these letters to, uh, to fall in line.

00:32:15.260 And the thing that there's a, there's a, there's a few things that jumped out to me in that letter, but they're pointing to, uh, information and what these, uh, media entities were or are doing to stop that.

00:32:31.200 And again, pointing to conservative news outlets as disinformation.

00:32:35.660 Uh, and pointing to, to only conservative media outlets as the propagators of this disinformation. 0.70

00:32:44.080 Well, let me interrupt you.

00:32:45.100 Let me, let me, let me interrupt you here.

00:32:47.620 That's exactly what I would expect a Russian operative to say.

00:32:51.940 That's, I mean, that's the disinformation.

00:32:57.920 Here's the funny thing.

00:32:58.720 Yeah.

00:32:59.160 That's the different disinformation that nobody seemed to have a problem with when they did it to you.

00:33:06.680 Exactly.

00:33:08.360 Exactly.

00:33:09.240 They did not have a problem with former secretary Clinton propagating that lie, baseless, evidenceless accusation that I'm somehow working for Russia or a Russian government.

00:33:21.940 Not only did it not have a problem carrying that, they continued to repeat it and reinforce that, uh, and not just over a week's worth of news stories.

00:33:34.480 This went on for virtually the entire time I was campaigning for president.

00:33:38.960 Another example, they had no problem, uh, NBC, ABC, all of these news networks.

00:33:45.480 They had no problem propagating the lie that James Clapper told to the United States Senate that the government was not conducting mass surveillance on Americans by collecting our, our phone metadata and looking into our emails.

00:33:59.440 No problem.

00:34:00.400 In fact, they've given him a platform on CNN as some kind of expert.

00:34:04.560 So you can lie to the U S Senate, not be prosecuted for it, get your lie covered by the media.

00:34:10.340 And then the media will put you up on TV and pay you a bunch of money to continue to act as though you're an expert.

00:34:15.360 They had no problem and no punishment, no consequence for propagating the lies that took us into the Iraq war.

00:34:21.880 The list goes on and on and on.

00:34:24.960 So if this is the approach they're going to take and that they are taking, uh, we, the American people need to expose the double standard, the hypocrisy, and the very transparent attempt to silence those who hold views that they, those in power do not deem as acceptable.

00:34:48.380 And what's so clear to me in all of this is if there was confidence in their argument, their policies, their, their, uh, proposals or philosophy, that they, their ideas are superior to those who they disagree with on the conservative spectrum.

00:35:09.060 Why not just present them and have confidence that your argument will defeat the other.

00:35:15.020 So it exposes this insecurity and lack of confidence and fear that, Oh my gosh, if they hear these other ideas or these other voices, they might believe it.

00:35:25.080 They might support it.

00:35:26.780 They might vote for candidates who hold those views.

00:35:30.680 And we can't have that happen.

00:35:32.340 But you know, that there are people on both sides of the aisles, progressives, if you will, on both sides of the aisles.

00:35:37.480 And I mean, progressives is the original early 20th century progressive that believes in, you know, uh, a, an authoritarian sort of dictatorship without, without the connotations of what we've learned dictatorships were.

00:35:54.200 Um, I mean, in, you know, 1900 dictatorship where somebody is an administrator and those administrators are just much smarter than the American people and they're educated and they're surrounded by experts.

00:36:08.480 So there are these, there's this, there's this feeling with, I think a lot of people in Washington, it seems that they really almost kind of despise the American people or they, they, they just need to say what they have to say to the American people because we know what we have to do.

00:36:28.220 And so that gives you all kinds of room to do really anything because it's just a bunch of cattle.

00:36:38.240 We got to get them through the chute.

00:36:40.280 What, what we're seeing here is this, um, blatant arrogance that really says we know better for the American people than, than they do for themselves. 1.00

00:36:51.360 They're too stupid to know any better. 1.00

00:36:54.380 They're too stupid to make decisions for themselves. 1.00

00:36:56.520 They're incapable of, of gathering information, forming opinions and views that will allow them to make decisions at the ballot box. 1.00

00:37:05.860 And so people in power will, will make that decision for us.

00:37:10.800 And worse yet, their motivation is not the best interest of the American people.

00:37:18.880 Their motivation is how do I keep power?

00:37:21.560 How do I get more power or how do I get power back?

00:37:24.160 And that's what I, that's what I saw very clearly throughout my, my, uh, eight years in Congress where I was both in the, the minority when Republicans were in charge.

00:37:32.740 And then in the majority, when Democrats took over the house, uh, the decisions were driven very clearly on a daily basis on that calculus.

00:37:40.580 If you're in power, how do you keep it?

00:37:42.860 And if you're not, how do you get it back?

00:37:44.800 So you, I'm sure.

00:37:47.540 No, are you following the great reset at all from the world economic forum and what's happening?

00:37:52.500 I haven't urge you to go to the world economic forum.org and begin to look.

00:37:59.080 Um, there is there, we are forming an oligarchy, um, and it, it's all out in the open.

00:38:06.840 Um, and it revolves around, um, the, the idea of ESGs, uh, or is it, yeah, environmental, social justice and governmental standards.

00:38:18.760 Well, that's great unless you're starting to put those into companies and those companies now say, we are only doing business with people who believe this and we'll do this.

00:38:32.500 Coca-Cola has on their own site, uh, about a hundred pages.

00:38:36.260 This is their bottler in, um, uh, Europe that is ahead of them here, but they're quickly catching up.

00:38:42.500 And the, the, the, the several times they say, in order to justify our business license, we will do these things in the community.

00:38:54.180 We will do this and that.

00:38:55.520 Now that's great.

00:38:56.420 If that's what you want to do as a company, but we are now seeing, for instance, with Facebook and Google,

00:39:04.340 they're doing the bidding in many ways of the government where they are going around the constitution.

00:39:14.720 Government can't violate that, but this is a private company.

00:39:17.940 So they are silencing people, but it seems to be awfully convenient, uh, the handshake between them and the government and they're in business with each other.

00:39:28.680 And you see others, other companies that are also coming in and they are doing business with the governments of the world and they're going to get payback.

00:39:42.560 Um, it's, it's this ingenious system called, uh, stakeholder capitalism where we're all stakeholders, not shareholders, stakeholders.

00:39:54.100 And so if it's not good for all of the stakeholders, you can't do it.

00:40:00.180 That's a fundamental perversion of what America and freedom really is.

00:40:06.260 That's Chinese capitalism or basically what we've been, uh, except with guns on the other end of it. 0.92

00:40:14.460 It's corrupt capitalism, crony capitalism at best.

00:40:19.320 Uh, when you have all of these interests that are coming together and the government knows, it doesn't have the trust of the American people.

00:40:31.080 The media knows it doesn't have the trust of the American people.

00:40:34.620 The media also doesn't have the money to do it.

00:40:37.180 Uh, when you have people that need each other, Facebook, Google,

00:40:43.540 they need the governments of the world to not come after them like a bag of bricks and the government needs Google and Facebook to help us out a little bit, help us corral the American people a little bit.

00:40:58.880 How do we get out of this trap?

00:41:02.420 It's, it's, it's a big one.

00:41:07.020 And this, this comes down to, um, remembering and, and harnessing the power that, that we have within our hands, especially in America, uh, through two primary means, uh, how we vote, who we vote for, and how we choose to spend our dollar.

00:41:26.760 Um, because both of these are a means of communication where, um, we, we, we get to take, we get to take a stand, uh, on the government side.

00:41:38.160 Yeah, but when you, hang on just a second, when you take a stand, I took a stand at Fox.

00:41:43.180 I didn't like the direction that I felt that they were going.

00:41:47.100 I didn't like the direction I thought CNN was going as well.

00:41:50.240 And I, I took a huge risk in 2011 and built my own company.

00:41:56.080 I was the first one to go.

00:41:57.300 It was only me and I think major league baseball at the time that we're doing what's called over the top.

00:42:03.020 And, uh, it was crazy.

00:42:05.420 Everybody said it was crazy.

00:42:06.440 Well, now it's the norm for a lot of people.

00:42:09.760 I know you have your own podcast.

00:42:11.680 It's the norm for people.

00:42:14.400 And yet I every day walk in wondering if something I'm going to say will be the trigger to shut me down and have Amazon pull my services.

00:42:26.080 And Google bury me or some ISP just saying, sorry, no business for you.

00:42:34.800 How do you fight back?

00:42:37.100 Because they hold all of the cards.

00:42:39.400 It seems.

00:42:40.020 Yeah, yeah.

00:42:42.460 This is, this is a very real risk.

00:42:44.200 And that's exactly the calculus I was thinking through as, as I'm, you know, getting ready to launch my podcast and YouTube show is that is what guests will I have?

00:42:55.700 Or what topic is one that, that will cause them at any time to just say, yeah, you know what, we're going to pull the plug and, uh, and, and make it so that your point, your voice is not being heard.

00:43:06.560 I mean, this is a very real threat that we're facing in our society and in our governance.

00:43:11.020 I mean, this is where we have to do a better job.

00:43:15.460 We, the American people have to do a better job in deciding who we are sending to Washington to make these decisions.

00:43:21.080 Is it going to be more of the same where we see politicians who go and collect the checks from Facebook and Google and, uh, big tech and, and all of these different entities where it's, Hey, you scratch my back.

00:43:34.540 I'll scratch yours when you need me. 0.99

00:43:36.040 And that vote's coming before committee.

00:43:37.560 Don't worry.

00:43:38.100 I'll be there for you.

00:43:39.520 Uh, just send a few more dollars my way.

00:43:41.680 Uh, are we going to keep sending people to Washington who are so easily cowed to tow the party line, uh, based on threats that, and I've seen this based on threats.

00:43:54.340 Hey, if you don't, if you don't fall in line, we're going to yank your committees.

00:43:57.220 If you don't fall in line, you know, we're not going to be there for you when you need help in your next reelection.

00:44:02.320 Or are we going to send people who are firmly rooted in that desire to, to always put the interest of the American people first?

00:44:11.680 You mentioned this, this stakeholder capitalism and clearly in this stakeholder capitalism, we, the people are, are not being considered stakeholders.

00:44:22.460 Oh, no, no, wait, wait, no, this is, this is the best part of it.

00:44:26.020 They answer that question.

00:44:27.940 Well, wait a minute.

00:44:28.640 Where's my voice?

00:44:29.880 They answer that in your elected officials.

00:44:33.980 So your government is your voice.

00:44:38.560 Mm hmm.

00:44:39.620 Yeah.

00:44:40.040 And the government is so, the government, and this, okay, so this gets to the heart of the problem where, and I, I saw over the last several years, people coming, you know, people coming and meeting with me in office in Washington, D.C.

00:44:55.040 And just this constant rhetoric about the concern of the rise of populism in the United States and in the world and what a dangerous thing that is.

00:45:05.580 And I, I, I, like, every time I kept scratching my head, you see the rise of people's frustrations and anger and pain and stepping up and saying, hey, no, we're not going to allow the very few, the wealthiest, the most powerful to control all of these decisions that impact our lives in, in most often a negative way.

00:45:28.800 And we're going to stand up and do something about it through who we vote for, through exercising our voice and our freedom of speech and seeing people within our government and within our corporate society openly and publicly talking about that as being a threat.

00:45:42.800 And I think there's a silver lining to that because it shows that even though we may feel powerless at different times, there is power in our voices, there is power in our vote.

00:45:56.920 And this is the institutions that our founders set up for us to be able to exercise that power of having a government of, by and for the people, which frankly is under threat right now.

00:46:05.080 Do we believe that, especially if HR one passes, I mean, that's the federal, I mean, that's unconstitutional HR one.

00:46:13.480 I'm sure you're familiar with this is the bill that is trying to be passed by the house to, to federalize in many ways, the U S elections.

00:46:22.120 That is unconstitutional, but if they get half of those things through, you're not going to be able to trust an election.

00:46:30.380 And that's what you've said this a couple of times, you got to be careful on who you vote for and you really have to, yada, yada.

00:46:36.160 And for the first time in my life, I have, I have thought to myself each time, well, yeah, but does that really, I mean, is that going to matter?

00:46:47.560 I mean, does that matter anymore?

00:46:49.580 Will our voice actually be heard and counted fairly?

00:46:53.480 I have no problem.

00:46:55.380 Everybody I ever endorse or I'm for, they always lose. 0.76

00:46:58.660 So, uh, you know, I'm used to losing and I'm a good loser.

00:47:03.100 I, I, I understand the people's will.

00:47:05.900 I got it, but I'm not sure that we're entering territories where you can trust that the people, uh, that that's actually their will.

00:47:17.660 Is that too conspiratorial or have to, no, it's not, it's not, I understand where you're coming from.

00:47:24.780 And, and the concern is very, very real, um, for a variety of reasons, uh, election integrity has something for years has been something for years that I, as a member of not only spoke about and warned against, but actually introduced legislation to, to address recognizing that if we as voters don't have faith that our votes will be counted.

00:47:47.780 Counted as we cast them, then what is our democracy, right?

00:47:53.640 It's it, there, there's nothing left.

00:47:55.420 And so, you know, I introduced legislation, the securing America's elections act.

00:47:58.960 I think you and I talked actually, when I first introduced this bill, um, that very simply, it, it continued to support the state's authority and administering elections.

00:48:08.700 And merely said, if you're using an electronic system, there needs to be a voter verified paper backup or a paper ballot record to ensure that we protect ourselves from hackers or manipulation of those votes.

00:48:23.080 You have an auditable paper trail and provided resources to the states to be able to do that.

00:48:28.680 Yeah.

00:48:28.900 Um, that legislation ultimately, and this was a bipartisan, this is Democrats and Republicans.

00:48:34.500 Oh, uh, people who've talked about concerns about election integrity, they didn't do anything when they had the chance.

00:48:40.300 No, cause I think everybody likes to play in the gray area.

00:48:44.740 Exactly.

00:48:45.340 You know, it might benefit me one day.

00:48:47.560 So when it's advantageous.

00:48:49.200 Yeah, exactly.

00:48:50.160 Yeah.

00:48:50.780 And, and that's the issue here.

00:48:52.960 The other major issue here is with the media, the media bias.

00:48:56.360 I experienced this in a very real way, uh, especially in my presidential, uh, campaign of how the power of the mainstream media to decide what narrative they're going to choose to tell about you.

00:49:09.060 The fact that there's little to no interest in talking about real issues, substantive issues that are critical to the American people.

00:49:18.140 It's entertainment, it's ratings, it's political theater.

00:49:22.400 And ultimately if they decide, you know what, we don't want people to hear from you anymore.

00:49:27.740 I experienced a blackout, a media blackout that made it.

00:49:31.600 So the only way I could communicate with voters was, Hey, we're holding multiple town halls every day.

00:49:35.960 We're out on social media.

00:49:36.960 We're trying to reach as many people as possible, but it becomes, you know, like, like I'm sitting here with a squirt gun up against a flotilla of aircraft carriers.

00:49:48.340 Right.

00:49:48.700 And it is, it's a very helpless feeling, but, but so understanding these, these threats to our democracy is critical so that we, we can, we can work to address them.

00:50:02.580 We can work to address them through new media.

00:50:03.800 We can work to address them through how we cast our votes, through exercising our speech, through pushing back against these threats to our bill of rights and our constitution and our fundamental freedoms.

00:50:14.320 You have, you have, you have witnessed it firsthand and it, and it continues.

00:50:21.800 Let me just stay, I don't think we're going to get past the first amendment, but let me just stay with the first amendment on something that I know you have had blowback on.

00:50:28.520 But there's news this week that, um, a, a scientific based book endorsed by, um, you know, doctors at the university of Boston and, uh, uh, psychiatrists, you know, with Princeton, et cetera, et cetera.

00:50:47.480 There are some, some, some, some big names, um, the book has been banned, even though it has been out for three years, for three years.

00:50:57.380 Um, Amazon decided it was hate speech.

00:51:00.300 And if you've read the book, I have not, but I have been told by many who have, it is compassionately based.

00:51:09.300 It is really for parents to get another point of view when a doctor says, oh, give your kids transgender drugs, go ahead, let them change, have them have the surgery. 0.56

00:51:20.280 It's now been banned by Amazon.

00:51:24.720 Um, you can't come out and talk about you.

00:51:27.860 I mean, the bill that you tried to pass or you sponsored, uh, banning trans women in girls sports. 0.99

00:51:36.840 You're a heretic. 1.00

00:51:38.240 You're a witch. 1.00

00:51:39.060 We should burn you. 1.00

00:51:41.960 What, uh, how do you, how do you continue to fight when science, this is a chromosomal issue. 0.98

00:51:50.880 Science is being dismissed.

00:51:56.040 We have to keep fighting back using our voices and using our dollars.

00:52:01.300 I think there was another example, maybe similar to this, uh, the book that was written by, I think Alison Schreier was her name that went, uh, to, I think it was up at target.

00:52:13.040 And then what, I think they got one or two complaints.

00:52:15.740 They yanked the book.

00:52:16.720 And then a whole bunch of people went in and said, I want to read this book.

00:52:21.040 And they ended up reinstating it and putting the book back on their shelves as a result.

00:52:25.660 So our voices matter.

00:52:27.560 And even though we may feel as individuals, it's, it's tough to make an impact being able to stand up as people who love and appreciate free speech, whether or not we agree with what's in these books or not.

00:52:40.620 I mean, there, there could be a book that that's written that I may wholeheartedly disagree with.

00:52:45.800 I will still stand up for the right for people to have access to information.

00:52:51.020 And again, this, this is something that we started this off with the oath that I've taken as, as a soldier and a member of Congress.

00:52:56.720 And, and what that oath really means, it's not just words on a page.

00:53:00.040 It's not just words we recite when we raise our right hand.

00:53:02.600 It means actually that I may disagree with your speech, but I'm willing to lay my life down for your right to speak.

00:53:12.380 That's what it comes down to.

00:53:13.880 And, and this is where each of us, we, we can't just, we can't just sit back and say, you know what, it's a lost cause because there's so much at stake and we have to stand up.

00:53:27.600 We have to stand up for each other, for our freedoms and for our country.

00:53:31.880 So let's, um, let's, let's stay on this topic a little bit with transgenderism, but also include, uh, COVID there is this, this my way or the highway and our children are really at risk. 0.90

00:53:51.760 Um, our schools are still closed.

00:53:55.100 We know what this is.

00:53:56.940 We didn't a year ago and our schools are still closed.

00:54:01.640 And our teachers are, you know, in California, having a parade to say, you know, support us.

00:54:07.840 We want to keep them closed until it's safe.

00:54:10.940 Meanwhile, our girls, I think are being disenfranchised by, uh, uh, boy who says I'm in the middle of changing to a girl.

00:54:22.200 You're built differently.

00:54:24.620 Um, how do we break this, uh, for our kids?

00:54:29.680 It's how it, because it seems, let me add critical race theory into it.

00:54:33.520 It seems our kids are being torn apart and used by a system that doesn't really seem to care.

00:54:41.420 Look at the statistics on suicide and loneliness.

00:54:45.900 What should be done there?

00:54:51.740 Well, I'll start with, with the legislation that I introduced, uh, before I left Congress with a colleague and friend of mine, a Republican from Oklahoma named, uh, Congressman Mark Wayne Mullen.

00:55:00.740 Our, our legislation, which was called the Protect Women's Sports Act, did just that.

00:55:06.460 It looked at Title IX and recognized the need to strengthen, uh, clarify and uphold the intent of Title IX, which I think was enacted in 1972 in order to, um, provide a level playing field for girls and women in sports.

00:55:22.880 Uh, and I'll, I'll, I'll use my mom as an example. 0.54

00:55:25.220 She grew up in East Grand Rapids in Michigan.

00:55:27.760 Uh, she was the second of three girls and very athletic, very active, but the most opportunity that she had was water ballet and cheerleading.

00:55:38.360 And she did not have the opportunity to go and compete in the kinds of sports that she wished she could.

00:55:44.380 So Title IX was a game changer for the generation that came next.

00:55:48.560 Uh, and we see these incredible female athletes who've gone on, on to the highest levels because of those opportunities provided by Title IX. 0.98

00:55:57.540 Now, Mark Wayne and I, he's got, he's got three little girls himself.

00:56:01.760 They all love to wrestle.

00:56:03.460 And I think they're 10 twins or 10, and then he's got a 12 year old and they're really good.

00:56:09.380 They're extremely competitive, but for him and his wife, their concern is not only the unfairness of now saying, well, hey, you might have to go and compete against a biological male, but the safety risk that is inherent with that.

00:56:26.620 So, so, so it is a very practical, science-based, common sense organization that and girls in sports, period.

00:56:40.280 That's it.

00:56:40.740 It's very simple.

00:56:41.580 Uh, and we see now with, with girls who are competing in track and field in high school, there are a number of different examples in the country, um, where the physiology, the physiological differences between a biological male and a biological female competing against each other, take away that level playing field, take away scholarships that they were hoping to get to go to college, take away that, that opportunity that they were seeking to have as, as female athletes in sports.

00:57:09.700 Um, let's, let's, let's, let's go to COVID and common sense.

00:57:16.380 Let's go, let's go to COVID and the lockdowns and the, now we have to wear double masks and we may not be able to come out of lockdown until 2022.

00:57:27.020 What is going on and what should be done?

00:57:32.040 Common sense and science, you know, in the midst of a, of a pandemic, these, these, these,

00:57:39.700 should be the driving factors of the decisions that are being made.

00:57:42.640 And you look at, you look at how we could have alleviated so much of the negative impact that we've seen going back to the very beginning in the hypocrisy and in incompetence, um, of, of our leaders.

00:57:57.500 And, and, and I'll, I'll, you mentioned the double masks are saying triple masks.

00:58:00.980 It's, it's, it's a ridiculous and, and, um, not non-practical approach to people who want to protect themselves.

00:58:11.060 This could have been addressed in the very beginning by, uh, Dr. Fauci and the CDC, instead of lying to the American people saying, don't wear a mask.

00:58:18.540 It's not going to do anything for you specifically because they were trying to protect the N95 medical grade masks for healthcare workers, which is important.

00:58:29.140 They're there.

00:58:29.780 They have the highest exposure.

00:58:31.760 Why not just tell the American people the truth and say, Hey, look, we have a limited amount of these masks.

00:58:37.160 We want to save them for those who are treating COVID patients every day, but we're going to do everything we possibly can to make it so that these masks will be available to everyone so that you too can have this same protection.

00:58:50.200 Tulsi, I had, I had some of the N95. 0.69

00:58:53.940 And your loved one.

00:58:54.840 I had some of the N95 masks.

00:58:56.980 Friends of mine had some of the N95 masks because we're preppers.

00:59:00.540 And we turned them into the local hospital.

00:59:03.700 The reason why they lied is because they don't believe in the inherent goodness of the American people.

00:59:12.380 And the, and the, they lack the belief that the Americans will do the right thing when you inform them and ask them.

00:59:25.480 Yeah.

00:59:26.680 Yeah.

00:59:27.020 I, yeah, I think that's what it comes down to.

00:59:28.700 And it, unfortunately, here we are a year later and it's continuing.

00:59:32.440 I, I've, I'm, was early on in the pandemic, uh, calling everyone I possibly could talking to small businesses, importers, people.

00:59:40.920 How do we get more masks?

00:59:43.580 How do we get more masks?

00:59:45.120 These N95 masks for our health cares?

00:59:47.260 How do we deal with this massive shortage in supply?

00:59:50.380 And still today, it is virtually impossible for, uh, any, any individual who's not working in a medical field, uh, to get access to these masks that, that could have saved thousands of people's lives because they actually work.

01:00:08.840 And then we wouldn't be having this conversation about people wearing triple masks, which really make it almost impossible for people to breathe. 0.95

01:00:17.980 If we had instituted this and leaders at that time recognize the importance of it, again, science and common sense, mass production of these masks, stop exporting them to other countries.

01:00:28.200 Then we could have, you know, you don't have the kinds of, uh, you know, mass lockdowns, uh, that we've seen.

01:00:40.080 And, and, and at its core, from the get-go, having those who are public health experts lying to the American people has created this suspicion and lack of trust in those who are supposed to be looking at our best interests.

01:01:02.900 And I also don't believe that what you're saying is true.

01:01:06.160 Okay.

01:01:06.820 We are so sadly out of time.

01:01:09.100 Um, I hope that you would come back on this because we only got to the first amendment.

01:01:13.780 I would love to, um, but I do want, I, I, I do want to ask you this question before you leave.

01:01:19.060 And that is the tea party was not anti-American.

01:01:25.560 It wasn't anti-government.

01:01:28.000 Um, it wasn't anti-Obama as much as it was, where is my party?

01:01:34.940 Where is, where are the people who are standing up for the constitution?

01:01:39.100 Where are the people that say, no, wait, you can't do that because this is the system we have.

01:01:45.480 Um, and it was turned into all kinds of things, but, and then eventually discouraged and scattered.

01:01:52.280 The, the, the idea of it though, was our party has gone over the edge.

01:02:01.740 You are one of the more important voices in America because you are saying your party has gone over the edge.

01:02:13.980 And I keep saying to my audience, look, the Democrats in Washington and the people like Antifa and the leadership that know the goals of black lives matter are not the people who are in your community that are not paying attention.

01:02:32.660 And that says, yeah, black lives matter.

01:02:34.660 It means two different things.

01:02:36.960 And your average Democrat who's not paying attention is not your enemy.

01:02:43.300 The enemy is on any side where they're trying to stop freedom and shut people off and become authoritarian.

01:02:53.640 But I'm losing hope that there are Democrats that there are out there to wake up and to rally.

01:03:00.300 When do the Democrats do to their party, what the tea party was trying to do to theirs?

01:03:10.520 I think there are a lot of people who are afraid in the midst of this cancel culture, conflict culture society that, that we are living in, which is why I think it's so important to continue to encourage and promote people.

01:03:30.300 People who are standing up and speaking the truth and being able to call out wrong when you see it, whether it happens to be people who may be in your political party or not, and to call out what's right, whether they are in your political party or not.

01:03:48.680 And I think that by doing so, we can begin this kind of deeper spiritual revival in our country that speaks to, I'll circle back.

01:04:05.080 I mean, this is what we call aloha here in Hawaii.

01:04:07.140 It speaks to this recognition that you and I, that every single one of us are God's children.

01:04:12.360 And when we recognize that, that inspires the respect and the care and compassion and love that we have for one another in understanding that.

01:04:24.140 And this is what allows us to heal these wounds.

01:04:26.920 This allows us to find that strength to speak the truth, to stand up, to protect our freedoms, to protect our rights.

01:04:34.840 This is not about everybody falling in lockstep.

01:04:37.340 We all have to be the same party.

01:04:38.620 I don't believe that at all.

01:04:39.980 This is about us building our future on this foundation, on this spiritual foundation, where real change is possible.

01:04:52.760 And for us, in who we are selecting as leaders in our country, these are the qualities that I hope we collectively look for.

01:05:00.580 For those who are inspired by this recognition of who we all are, and therefore inspired to take action towards service.

01:05:10.960 Tulsi, I mean this sincerely.

01:05:15.680 My home, my facilities are your facilities and your home.

01:05:20.460 If you need anything ever, I will fight and watch your back in the trenches.

01:05:28.780 We may disagree on a lot of policies.

01:05:32.060 Thank you.

01:05:32.440 But it is a real privilege to see somebody of principle stand up.

01:05:37.680 Thank you.

01:05:38.520 Thank you so much, Glenn.

01:05:39.600 It's great to talk to you, and I look forward to our next conversation.

01:05:43.440 Great.

01:05:43.680 Just a reminder, I'd love you to rate and subscribe to the podcast and pass this on to a friend so it can be discovered by other people.

01:05:56.380 Thank you.

The Glenn Beck Program - February 27, 2021

Ep 99 ｜ Tulsi Gabbard Confronts Dangerous Smears of Our Military & Conservatives ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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