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00:03:09.920 well hello america oh well we have a few things to talk about today uh let's see uh epstein

00:03:20.800 apparently there was no client list at all even though pam bundy told us that the client list was

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00:03:41.620 children were there no were there were there no customers i don't i don't really understand this

00:03:48.240 but we're going to get into that here in just a minute also uh the big beautiful bill has passed

00:03:54.240 about 14 million people died over the weekend because of it it's a huge huge tragedy of course and

00:04:01.600 everyone lost their medical care and there's no health insurance whatsoever for the poor and

00:04:07.660 indigenous and of course when i said the 14 million people dead i should have i should have led with the

00:04:13.680 60 million that were our seniors we'll tell you about that but we have to start with chip roy and what

00:04:19.220 happened in uh texas this weekend a horrible horrible flood that happened in the blink of an eye

00:04:28.320 uh and the death toll now is over 70 we're going to talk to chip roy about that in 60 seconds first

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00:05:39.040 in your district uh our thoughts and our prayers are with all of you welcome to the program chip roy

00:05:45.260 well thanks glenn yeah it's been it's been a rough uh rough go for the folks down at kerville um

00:05:52.060 you know i've spent uh most of the last three days there i came home late yesterday to see my family

00:05:58.780 clean up and get out of the way um you know because at some point you know you you want them to be able

00:06:04.780 to kind of do their thing but um you know look it's also a great testimony to the uh you know strength

00:06:13.140 to resolve compassion of not just people at kerville but across texas and the whole country

00:06:17.980 uh there's like long waiting lines for people to volunteer there was a backup of you know a long

00:06:24.480 line of traffic at the place where people were signing up uh resources are flowing in musicians

00:06:30.520 are scheduling benefit concerts you know the local state and federal governments are all working in

00:06:36.220 i think a lot of prayer warriors out there um but man it's you know it's tough i mean i drove out

00:06:42.640 there through camp mystic and out through hunt which is i think arguably the most beautiful part of texas

00:06:48.880 certainly one of and there's a reason there's 18 camps there it's just an extraordinary part of the

00:06:54.440 state and um you know there's just a tight area there where if you get a flash flood like they got

00:07:00.640 with that unprecedented amount of water coming through at that rate it just comes through and

00:07:07.000 it's just uh a torrent and uh the damage is pretty extraordinary uh when i saw houses wiped off

00:07:13.020 foundations trees laid flat like massive huge old cypress trees and oak trees just laid flat

00:07:20.020 a lot of damage to buildings but everybody's out there cleaning up and getting after it and

00:07:25.060 we'll keep praying for them and working with them i i know that the uh the guadalupe rose

00:07:31.600 what was it 26 feet in 45 minutes that's extraordinary yeah and i mean it's hard to

00:07:40.600 put in perspective and i tweeted out a picture that we had of a time lapse of what happened out in

00:07:46.480 lano and you could see it in about literally it was about a four minute span where the water just

00:07:52.600 rose up i don't know how many feet but if you look at the video it's extraordinary engulfing a

00:07:56.680 bridge filling up an entire river basin and people were you know responding to that tweet like oh my

00:08:03.880 gosh how does that happen this is what we deal with in central texas uh generally with flash floods

00:08:09.960 because we have hard dry ground we have limestone with a very thin kind of layer of soil on top right

00:08:17.420 and uh we've been in a drought so it's particularly been pretty hard and so you know you get then a

00:08:24.420 rain like we got which is basically a tropical storm type event that just sat and spun in that one

00:08:30.800 location and that water is going to go somewhere when you're talking 12 to 14 inches of water

00:08:36.020 and so that's what happened and it came down look i've seen a lot of different theories on this and

00:08:40.920 people going oh well you know some people are saying it's uh you know don't worry this is not the first

00:08:46.620 time this has happened they should have been prepared you know there's the flood in 1987 there's

00:08:50.360 been floods before true yeah and they and they are ready for that sort of thing but then how ready

00:08:56.620 are you well what you saw here was a level of water that went so fast and so furiously and remember

00:09:03.980 between 4 a.m and 6 a.m right it was in that window of july 4th so you know they were prepared for

00:09:11.720 flash flooding but they were prepared for what you would call normal or even bad flash flooding

00:09:17.260 not the level that that occurred and that's that's what happened so dana bash was on cnn and uh

00:09:24.900 uh she was she was saying that you know this is the federal government they you know the

00:09:30.680 two texas national weather service uh offices that were involved in forecasting and warning

00:09:36.000 uh they were missing some key staff members because of donald trump's cuts however the records show

00:09:43.660 that they normally have two people uh that are in there and because of the warnings that were coming

00:09:50.700 out the night before they had five people on duty i mean can you can you comment at all about the

00:09:58.200 the trump cuts that have gotten more people killed now or or because of global warming

00:10:03.600 yeah i mean it's all just so absurd first of all take one step back the finger pointing generally

00:10:11.000 is just offensive when you're dealing with trying to find bodies and trying to deal with families

00:10:16.780 grieving like night before last i was with the families uh who have not been able to find their

00:10:22.060 daughters or or who are pretty you know are learning the bad news about their daughters so that's where i

00:10:27.640 was night before last i don't know where dana bash was but she wasn't there and we're down

00:10:33.580 on the ground with first responders trying to find people and we're trying to clean up debris and

00:10:38.640 we're trying to help a community heal and we're trying to deal you got a camp director who died

00:10:43.780 trying to save little girls and i'm there with his daughter who is now there with the families

00:10:49.800 of the people who lost their little girls at this camp and she was there because she loves them

00:10:56.400 you know how hard that was and that you got these people like dana bash who are out there you know

00:11:02.480 making this conjecture about budget cuts or the trump administration didn't have people there which

00:11:08.280 first of all is false it's just not true and second of all whatever we're going to do in analyzing all

00:11:15.240 of this do it in a week or two or in a month when we can sit back and take in all the facts we used to

00:11:22.560 be a country that would do that and instead now it's all about this politicization and this you know

00:11:28.100 recriminations and trying to exploit we got media who are tracking down the family members right now

00:11:33.900 and when the families take guys we don't want to talk they go dig up stuff on social media put

00:11:39.280 pictures up on their kids kids who were alive 72 hours ago aren't alive now and they're grieving

00:11:45.660 so that's the kind of crap we're dealing with and with all due respect to dana it's just not true

00:11:50.460 okay and by the way you know whatever the the national weather service was doing do you and i

00:11:57.260 both believe that there's probably bureaucracy at noaa and in commerce that could be made better

00:12:03.200 yeah i'm sure you and i believe that and i know president trump believes that should we improve it

00:12:08.640 probably but to say they weren't doing their job and they didn't have the resources there is a lie

00:12:13.880 well so that's that's what happens when you try to politicize it instead of pursue facts

00:12:18.100 let me just say this um there was a flash flood flood watch that was issued at 12 41 in the morning

00:12:28.240 um then a flash flood warning was at 1 14 a.m flash flood emergency was issued at 5 34 a.m uh the problem

00:12:40.240 is i mean i don't know about you but i'm not getting my flash flood warnings at that time uh this area

00:12:46.920 doesn't have a great cell service if cell service in some of these areas so you're not getting any of

00:12:52.520 those kinds of warnings and the uh the area had gone through should we put up you know like uh like air

00:13:00.600 raid sirens you know tornado warning sirens should we put those up and the town decided not to do it

00:13:06.380 i mean this is years ago right i mean i think it looks like everybody did what they were supposed to

00:13:11.520 do it happened in the middle of the night yeah and like if i look at this and i like i haven't

00:13:17.500 studied at all what decisions were made you know by kirk county or by the state or anything else i

00:13:22.060 know there was some stuff about a bill that was you know debated this last session and who voted for

00:13:26.020 who didn't none of that really matters the question really is it doesn't matter at this moment it will

00:13:30.800 matter in the long run the question for me is you know my gut and instinct is you need sirens

00:13:36.480 right that's my gut that's my quick reaction is that you need sirens right people in tornado alley

00:13:41.340 and they live up you know they have sirens so in a place like this that has flash floods that occur

00:13:46.020 every decade or two or five and some can get bad great you're going to need sirens you need a plan

00:13:50.960 to get to high ground that's my gut but we'll we'll talk to the locals in the state and the feds

00:13:56.680 but look here's the thing that's kind of interesting to me if you look through it all say okay there's

00:14:01.900 warnings were put out so what are the double-edged swords here sometimes we get flash flood alerts i

00:14:08.080 mean you know this in texas even in the dallas for worth area but certainly down here we get them a lot

00:14:13.600 so you kind of pay attention even when you get in the middle of the day like i pay attention enough

00:14:18.920 as a dad to go all right you know okay make sure everything's good but you get them a lot and here's

00:14:24.980 a problem when you get like well we're going to get two to four inches of rain or we're going to get

00:14:28.960 four to six inches of rain and you hear that you go okay that's a lot of rain okay but it sounds

00:14:33.620 normal the question here is when national weather service when the state government those folks our

00:14:40.860 texas department of emergency management started moving resources there because their view of the

00:14:46.220 tropical storm combined with what they were getting from the national weather service told them that

00:14:51.160 yeah this is starting to get a little bit interesting so some of that was happening people were paying

00:14:57.680 attention people were preparing but it was an extraordinary event so a question can be asked

00:15:03.600 well who knew it was an extraordinary event and when did they know it did anybody how are they going

00:15:08.800 to get the information chip how is anybody going to get the information to people even if they did know

00:15:13.400 it at three o'clock in the morning without sirens that's right that's to me that's that's my starting

00:15:19.280 position and then the question becomes you know before that said well who knew what my observation of all

00:15:25.320 this is the president the the federal government was doing what they normally do and more and some

00:15:31.740 sent more people were on top of it they put out notices and we'll have to go through and see okay

00:15:38.140 you know there were there were different meteorologists who from my observation here in texas

00:15:43.440 we're all still observing this late in the night there's a local guy in austin who's pretty good and he was

00:15:49.560 tracking it i was tracking it glenn from dc you know why i was tracking it because i was trying to decide

00:15:55.820 if i was going to go to kerrville where i go every year for the fourth of july for a big concert with my

00:16:01.900 family then president trump asked and his team asked if i would stay for the bill signing and so we made a

00:16:08.080 decision okay it looks like it's going to rain in kerrville um but we didn't know it was going to be

00:16:13.820 catastrophic that's my point i was following it um and it looked like it was going to be heavy rains

00:16:19.060 and then it got a lot worse late night and then the warnings went out but to your point you got to

00:16:25.400 have sirens that's my observation uh can you hang on just a second i have to take a one minute break

00:16:31.500 and then i want to talk to you a little bit about the rescues that happened some some real heroism

00:16:36.380 happened uh and then i also have to touch on the big beautiful bill uh that you did sign and we'll talk

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00:18:15.060 new home in buffalo it's 1270 the patriot the patriot welcome to the program we're glad you're

00:18:21.040 chip roy joins us again uh there are some amazing stories of heroism uh that we'll be telling later

00:18:29.920 in the show um is it true that there are some that are just completely made up

00:18:35.580 so i i'm sure some of the things you know yesterday there was a story about two girls

00:18:43.180 being found in a tree or something down a little south of the of kerrville uh southeast i should say

00:18:48.940 um heading towards uh uh comfort in kendall county and my antenna was up i reached out to the

00:18:55.440 sheriffs in both counties um turned out not to be true we try to get that information out as soon

00:19:00.720 as possible and it's tragic because you know these families they start getting their hope up

00:19:03.960 i don't you know fake report fake news so we had to kill that but there has been tremendous acts of

00:19:10.940 heroism the coast guard uh that that one individual was responsible you know some 200 people um yeah you

00:19:18.420 know uh there was a lot of work to get food and water to people and then get them you know extracted

00:19:23.160 we had 850 kids in these camps that had to be removed from the area with with the flooding and

00:19:29.300 with roads that were knocked out um and then we had actual uh you know uh rescues of several of the

00:19:36.040 girls that were in fact you know this was now two days ago in trees and down river and there were

00:19:41.300 rescues made and then there were lives saved by the actions of camp uh directors um there was a woman

00:19:47.280 who lost her life uh jane um i i can't remember her last name but she's a wonderful woman by all

00:19:53.080 accounts of the people at kerrville she lost her life saving some children uh the night of the floods

00:19:58.540 and then dick eastland who was the uh owner and uh you know long time camp director he bought it in

00:20:04.400 1973 at camp mystic uh dick and he was he was getting older and his younger family you know his kids were

00:20:09.960 you know in the family business they run the camp uh mary liz uh as someone i've been talking to a lot

00:20:15.700 that's his daughter-in-law um dick uh died night before last uh trying to save little girls and

00:20:21.520 um you know he devoted his life to the camp and he he died trying to save several girls

00:20:26.420 there as the floods were coming in can can you just um clear this one fact up because i can't find

00:20:34.020 anything in any houston uh report above the uh the uh the city official that's you know went on this

00:20:41.320 rant about it was how it was just uh white kids and yada yada yada all this crazy stuff but she made

00:20:46.900 the claim that this was a white only christian camp and i can't find a single story debunking that

00:20:53.740 and i find that really hard to believe true or not chip i did totally false it's just absolutely

00:21:00.680 ridiculous i mean we've got um you know this is a christian camp that welcomes anybody and everybody

00:21:05.980 um and you know this is just the kind of hateful rhetoric that comes out of out of people that

00:21:11.800 want to politicize everything demean everything everything has to be woke everything has to be

00:21:16.660 through this like dei ideology that's destroying our country that thankfully president trump and

00:21:21.500 others are fighting back against uh and undoing and taking out of the federal government and we

00:21:26.800 need to do more of it at the state and local government um you know it's just absurd i mean the fact is

00:21:32.180 these are really really good people um who are who are dedicated to the mission of advancing the

00:21:38.420 kingdom of christ um and doing so with these historic camps that have been multi-generational

00:21:43.020 along a great and beautiful part of the of the rivers in texas um and i've look i am hopeful that

00:21:49.300 they will all rebuild and that they will all get back to operation you know next year would be camp

00:21:54.100 mystic's 100th anniversary you know like i said there's been four and five generations of kids that

00:21:59.320 have gone through this camp and it is it look and people ask like how could you have these cabins

00:22:04.540 and these things all right next to the water you know what the answer is because it's right next to

00:22:09.400 the water right that's where you want to be it's where you want to be okay all right chip i i've got

00:22:16.000 a i've only got about a minute left and i have to ask you why did you change your vote on the uh big

00:22:20.940 beautiful bill look um you push as hard as you can get on every step along the way we got really good

00:22:27.180 changes to that bill it but for conservatives we wouldn't even have touched medicaid we got a

00:22:32.240 trillion dollars in medicaid reforms but for conservatives we wouldn't have gotten nearly

00:22:36.300 as many savings we got 1.6 trillion all of those things were along the way and at the last minute

00:22:40.960 last week i did not like what the senate did to the bill you and i talked about it they did a lot of

00:22:45.800 bad things to the bill we got serious action out of the administration that i believe will return

00:22:50.940 all or most of the teeth on the green new scam so that we can stop the future projects we're working

00:22:57.400 with them on executive orders and actions that they believe that i believe they'll be doing this week

00:23:01.260 we got a little distracted by the by the flooding but i believe we'll get it done this week we got

00:23:06.380 real reforms um i think we need to go further but i made the judgment that we went for as far as we

00:23:12.680 could go under the current circumstance to achieve what the president wanted to achieve and uh but we got

00:23:18.320 to go much further okay i am not here for more deficits and i i think this bill uh is good but i

00:23:25.460 think we need to do more work to get deficits going down on a second follow-up reconciliation

00:23:30.340 package appropriations and rescissions and that was a part of the decision making too

00:23:34.800 their pledge and promise to work with us to do that thank you so much chip roy from the great state

00:23:40.820 of texas god bless you we'll talk again my friend this is glenn beck

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00:25:10.740 could i address some of the hyperbole

00:25:30.700 around the big beautiful bill just a little bit if there is anything in the big beautiful bill to

00:25:38.900 worry about it is the increase in spending because the spending ourself into oblivion

00:25:47.560 is an actual threat to the country but that's not what anybody is talking about what everybody seems

00:25:55.680 to be talking about is the tax cuts which were already there or the tax cuts like no tax for tips

00:26:06.920 which you would think the party of the little people you know the democrats would all be for but

00:26:15.560 they're not because they're not party of the little people anymore um and those had to be offset

00:26:21.820 okay offset by what well by cutting spending but cutting what spending not cutting spending let me just

00:26:33.540 say this if i said uh you know i made 250 000 a year and this year we were going to spend 300 000

00:26:42.320 dollars okay and uh and you would say immediately glenn you can't do that and i'd say i've been doing

00:26:48.880 that for 30 years okay you might say bank's not going to give you a loan but then if i came to you and

00:26:55.080 i said yeah i'm spending 300 000 a year and my wife and i make 250 or 200 000 a year uh but you know

00:27:05.120 next year i was going to spend 500 000 did you get a raise no i didn't get a raise i still make

00:27:13.620 200 000 a year between my wife and i but i'm going to spend 500 and not 300 and then somebody came in

00:27:21.900 like an accountant with you know some muscle and they said glenn you cannot spend 500 000 a year

00:27:30.500 would it make sense if i went back to spending 300 not 200 which i had but 300 which i had been

00:27:39.640 spending every year would it make sense to you to for me to say my children are now going to starve

00:27:47.680 my children are now going to starve look at the austerity program that i am on my gosh they just got

00:27:57.120 no they didn't cut anything they didn't cut anything they cut the increase in spending that's

00:28:04.220 what they cut and stew could you please explain medicare i mean all of the people i know they

00:28:10.220 warned us i didn't believe the death squads would actually go out and you know they want these people

00:28:16.760 off medicare so badly uh or medicaid that they what what they just sent out death squads trump's not

00:28:23.620 waiting for them to die because they can't get their prescriptions now he's just having them

00:28:27.480 slaughtered in the streets yeah that's the efficiency of the trump administration sure once

00:28:32.160 these people dead so badly it's just killing them in the right uh no actually none of that's happening

00:28:36.380 um and the medicaid cuts are as you point out largely uh cuts to future increases that have not occurred

00:28:44.160 um the biggest chunk of this uh is the work requirements you've heard this glenn um and i and i went

00:28:51.340 through this and i was like this can't possibly be what they mean right like i i was like wait a

00:28:55.080 minute when they say work requirement cuts what does that mean so i you know dove into it a little

00:28:58.660 bit um and basically what they are saying is um you if you are an able-bodied adult so that does not

00:29:08.540 include old people does not include people who are sick and cannot work um and it also does not include

00:29:14.060 people who have small children even if they are able-bodied and when i say small i mean 12 and under

00:29:20.100 so if you have a 12 year old you're completely exempt from this but able-bodied adults who okay

00:29:26.540 so people in wheelchairs no no yeah again i know this is still nursing at home yeah this is where i'm

00:29:32.180 having a hard time following yes wait what now so you're an able-bodied adult um that is it does not

00:29:38.360 have small children you small children would be required to get medicaid to uh work 20 hours a week

00:29:45.560 um now you might 20 hours a week or 80 hours a month or 80 hours a month that is that's that's

00:29:52.880 almost half a part a full-time job now you might say to yourself and this is actually true some people

00:29:59.520 can't get jobs right i'm sure there are people that are trying to get even part-time jobs and maybe

00:30:04.280 can't get them and those people are just going to lose their medicaid well as you might understand

00:30:09.680 of course not because what you have to do then is go through a process where you're basically telling

00:30:14.980 them uh you're attempting to get a job or you are volunteering somewhere uh to uh meet that

00:30:22.100 requirement so basically so it's you have to fill out at the very least yeah it's like uh unemployment

00:30:26.580 you have to at least fill out some paperwork here so it's the exact opposite let me see if i have this

00:30:31.820 right it's the exact opposite of unemployment which we've had forever where if you're looking for a job

00:30:38.080 but you can't get one you can still get unemployment but it's the exact opposite right no especially if

00:30:44.220 you're nursing sex tuplets no again you're not very close to the truth you're a little bit off

00:30:52.360 on this one and by the way glenn you might say to yourself well wait how does that how is that a

00:30:57.640 medicaid cut because they're not cutting anyone's eligibility here unless they don't want to meet the

00:31:04.260 requirement now of course there's always been requirements media to all of these programs

00:31:09.060 so meaning the requirements has always been part of getting onto medicaid but this requirement if you

00:31:15.960 decide basically to not do it and not participate and not fill out the paperwork then yes you will

00:31:23.080 lose your medicaid coverage so what they're saying is they believe okay all right okay no i just want

00:31:28.560 to make sure i have it right so what they're saying is yes if you are blind yes you're deaf

00:31:34.620 you know you again you have no friends and you can't get out of the house and you're you've been

00:31:41.340 on medicaid somehow or another you signed up for that but now you don't even know because you can't hear

00:31:46.440 the news you you can't certainly can't fill out a form because you have no eyes they just come in

00:31:53.440 and rip your medicaid away no none of none of what you said is is accurate though it is calm

00:31:59.620 considering to some of the accusations comparing it because some of the accusations made by the left

00:32:03.540 right now um but yeah i mean if you so if you are an able-bodied adult that decides you know i'm too

00:32:09.200 i don't feel like filling out the paperwork or i don't feel like going to job interviews or i don't

00:32:14.220 feel like volunteering uh then yes you could lose your cake but that's what they're saying the cuts are

00:32:19.040 they think 317 billion dollars worth of people will not bother doing those things for whatever

00:32:24.480 reason maybe because they have more money than they said maybe because they're lazy maybe because

00:32:30.280 i'm sure there's some case where uh some uh i you know i don't know i i can't think of the case

00:32:36.920 because the the ailments are covered here but yes maybe it's i don't know some particular skin color

00:32:42.880 uh then they would reject you i don't know but glenn and it's not just that there are other cuts

00:32:47.360 for example uh some of the cuts are they are eliminating duplicate medicaid enrollment so if

00:32:53.980 you are if you happen to have medicaid double dip if you happen to have medicaid are you saying

00:32:58.820 in two different states they are going to try to stop you from having it in two states so

00:33:03.780 instead have make you have it in one state hold it just a second i have two legs i have two arms i

00:33:09.540 have two eyes i have two nostrils i have two ears i can't have two medicare medicaid uh coverages

00:33:16.440 i know it's insane it's it's really really brutal i have two kidneys i can only have one kidney now

00:33:22.540 uh you know repaired uh now is that all is that what you're saying that's not what i'm saying but

00:33:28.700 yes i'm sure that's what's being reported out there by dana bash um another one uh i will give you here

00:33:35.600 glenn um you know they talked about immigrants you know immigrants are getting all their medicaid

00:33:39.720 cut and this is tough now what this bill does i want you to i want you to hold hold on to your hat

00:33:45.600 here glenn uh okay af there is a uh if you have um green card holders and other certain immigrants

00:33:53.300 some will lose their coverage um or actually you know sorry eligibility will retain for those people

00:34:00.960 certain other immigrants may lose their coverage the current law says all who are lawfully present

00:34:05.820 that will kick in after a how many year waiting period let me give you let me guess uh it's a five

00:34:13.140 year waiting period so it will be the next president who has to deal with this when some future congress

00:34:18.620 will just put it right back in and it's not a savings at all then you have um uh medicaid death checks

00:34:26.740 they're going to require checking on whether you're dead look at this all right this is crazy it's brutal

00:34:33.740 it really is you're going to kick all of the immigrants off in five years and then no you're

00:34:40.000 checking to see if if old people and eyeless people are dead when will you leave these people

00:34:48.000 alone i know but so anyway we could go through this stuff all day but as you point out most of this

00:34:52.040 stuff is not at all what the left is saying it is it is not these desperate medicaid cuts that are

00:34:58.100 going to ruin everybody's lives a lot of them are just really common sense stuff like making sure you

00:35:02.400 don't have it in two states i mean i i don't know what the positive argument is for that um but you know

00:35:08.420 they don't make it well they don't have one that's why they don't make it about that um here is the uh

00:35:13.300 here's the thing i can't i can't take i can't take the moral superiority of the left

00:35:21.580 i don't think i'm morally superior to the people who disagree with me i may think they're morally

00:35:31.120 incorrect or morally misguided but i don't consider myself morally superior

00:35:38.000 i don't consider myself intellectually superior to those on the left i think they could be wrong

00:35:45.760 i think they could be misguided but then again i might be too you know we're all on the road of

00:35:54.320 being right but we're probably on the corner of wrong and mostly wrong but we're all trying to do

00:36:04.140 our best i cannot take the moral superiority from a group of people who uh honestly think they're

00:36:16.280 better than everyone else think they should make the decisions for everybody else don't have a problem

00:36:24.600 with other moral issues at all have bastardized our faith and our religion

00:36:33.880 i i don't mind if you say you know glenn i think you're wrong about you know moral whatever

00:36:42.120 but please don't put yourself into the situation to where you're claiming to be morally superior

00:36:49.240 i cannot take it anymore i i can't take my friends who disagree with me who want to pretend that somehow

00:37:00.380 or another i am a complete and total moral vacuum of a human being because i don't agree

00:37:11.340 and here's what i don't agree on that the medicare cuts are going to kill people it's not going to kill

00:37:20.460 people tell me about any of these cuts that are going to kill people that doesn't you don't have any

00:37:27.360 you know what's happening is there is no standard too low it seems to the left you you you don't

00:37:36.420 ever have to work you don't ever have to be in involved with any kind of legality the law is just wrong

00:37:45.040 the law is just wrong always wrong i'm being persecuted

00:37:49.860 i'm sorry i i do believe that that is morally incorrect i believe the left's idea that you can't

00:38:03.240 survive you know the world owes you nothing nothing it owes me nothing for those people who think that

00:38:14.220 the entire history of the world has happened to get us here so you could be happy so you could have

00:38:26.760 you know some fairness it would be nice but quite honestly history doesn't care about me and history

00:38:36.120 doesn't care about you and nothing none of this is happening because of me or because of you and in

00:38:44.440 our unbelievable arrogance we think we're going to affect it or we think that we're going to be the

00:38:52.080 ones that you know just we have to we have to have it fixed right now because our situation is so dire

00:38:58.940 i know i'm not expressing this well but i just i can't i can't take it get out of yourself for a minute

00:39:08.320 get out of your own echo chamber for a minute

00:39:13.580 to think that the left has all of the compassion which i think we can make a very strong case that

00:39:23.720 that is just not true maybe it used to be that all the compassion was with liberals but i don't know

00:39:30.240 what happened to liberals i just don't know and a lot of liberals the ones i think are compassionate

00:39:36.640 have left not to join the republicans but they can't stand being around their own people anymore

00:39:43.900 because their own people have just gone insane

00:39:46.740 if you ever hear me claiming to be morally superior please uh point it out to me so i can apologize

00:40:00.980 because i cannot take it anymore i can disagree with anybody but how dare you

00:40:09.140 just assume that all of your positions are morally superior

00:40:15.540 back in just a minute

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00:46:44.820 You know, there is nothing wrong with admitting you were wrong.

00:46:58.800 Nothing.

00:46:59.620 In fact, I think it's a sign of strength, not of weakness.

00:47:04.660 A lot of people don't believe that.

00:47:06.320 I can never be wrong.

00:47:07.300 I can't.

00:47:07.700 No, if you were wrong, admit it, and everybody will understand because we all make mistakes.

00:47:13.160 But right now, what we have going on is I have two, I think, good friends in Dan Bongino and Cash Patel, who I have respected and liked for a very long time, still do, who are now talking about there is, there's, there's no client list.

00:47:36.680 There's, there's no, there was never any blackmail going on.

00:47:41.420 He was only selling the children or buying the children for him, Epstein, not for anybody else.

00:47:49.680 That there was, there was no CIA or spook connection.

00:47:54.840 Even though Epstein was charged with sex trafficking, Maxwell charged with sex trafficking conspiracy, Bondi said the list was on her desk.

00:48:02.960 Alex Acosta, then, at the DOJ, who was handling the case, said he was told to leave the Epstein case alone because Epstein belonged to intelligence.

00:48:16.180 What am I to believe?

00:48:18.520 Now, I want to believe my friends.

00:48:21.100 And I have a, I have several requests out to both Cash Patel and to Dan Bongino to come on the program and talk about it.

00:48:29.820 Uh, we have requested Pam Bondi.

00:48:32.500 I don't know Pam.

00:48:34.040 I would like to give her the benefit of the doubt.

00:48:36.720 But somebody has to do more than just release the videotape.

00:48:41.500 Okay, so the videotape shows that nobody went in and, and killed him.

00:48:46.660 All right, good.

00:48:47.900 See the videotape?

00:48:49.200 Makes a strong case.

00:48:50.740 I'd like someone to answer, though, were these kids trafficked to air?

00:48:59.480 Was, there was no client list at all?

00:49:03.960 Why did Pam Bondi say the list was on her desk?

00:49:07.340 Why did they say the FBI in New York was hampering their investigation?

00:49:11.980 And that's why they couldn't get that list out.

00:49:13.860 Well, I don't understand.

00:49:18.060 And if they were wrong in the past, they should just come out and say we were wrong.

00:49:24.320 Have they?

00:49:25.800 Liz Wheeler is here.

00:49:27.540 Um, I don't know if she's quite as confused on this one as I appear to be.

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00:50:53.180 Liz wrote to me early today.

00:50:55.880 Let me see if I can.

00:50:57.060 May I quote you here, Liz?

00:50:59.700 Yes, you may.

00:51:00.560 Thanks for having me, Glenn.

00:51:01.280 Yeah, you bet.

00:51:02.940 She said, give me one good reason why I shouldn't scream for Pam Bondi to be fired today.

00:51:10.020 And this was at 5 o'clock in the morning, and I said, I'm sleepy, but I don't think I can.

00:51:16.780 I don't think I can give you a reason not to call for her firing today.

00:51:22.060 But I want you to explain why do you feel this way?

00:51:26.280 It's not something that I say lightly.

00:51:28.600 I didn't say it immediately after the White House Epstein binder debacle.

00:51:34.440 And I want to very prudently and judiciously make this case to you today and to make this case to President Trump, too,

00:51:41.160 because Pam Bondi has become a liability to his administration, despite her loyalty in other areas.

00:51:46.340 So let's start with the announcement from the Department of Justice last night.

00:51:50.060 A lot of us have a lot of questions about this announcement.

00:51:53.120 It just doesn't ring true with a lot of us.

00:51:55.080 We don't we don't we see a lot of evidence before our eyes that contradicts what we're being told without evidence to believe by the FBI and the Department of Justice.

00:52:03.040 And it grates on us because, like you mentioned, we are friends with Cash Patel and Dan Bongino.

00:52:08.560 They're the good guys.

00:52:09.260 We trust them.

00:52:09.880 And yet we have to use our critical thinking faculty and look at the evidence before our eyes.

00:52:15.180 So it smells fishy.

00:52:17.380 You'll notice it says nothing about whether Jeffrey Epstein was an intelligence asset, which, as you mentioned, Alex Acosta,

00:52:22.620 the attorney who cut the sweetheart deal originally with Epstein, said he was before Acosta's emails mysteriously disappeared.

00:52:29.800 So we have questions about that.

00:52:31.480 There are also outstanding, important questions about Cash Patel and Dan Bongino's definitive pronouncement that Epstein killed himself.

00:52:39.860 I'm sorry.

00:52:40.700 I don't think the video that they released proves as definitively as they were stating that case, because it doesn't show what's happening inside the cell.

00:52:49.000 It just shows the cell door.

00:52:50.280 We don't actually see him kill himself.

00:52:51.940 So that doesn't prove anything.

00:52:54.300 We know that nobody came in or left.

00:52:57.720 Through that door.

00:53:00.580 Where are they going to go?

00:53:01.560 Through the little bars?

00:53:03.240 I mean, Dracula?

00:53:04.300 A little bat comes in?

00:53:05.320 I don't know what the internal of that cell looks like.

00:53:08.120 I don't know if they have fire escape routes.

00:53:10.620 I don't know if they have adjoining doors.

00:53:12.720 I don't know if they have emergency exits.

00:53:14.180 I don't know if that video was doctored or not.

00:53:16.100 I don't know enough about that to simply take that one piece of evidence and say, okay, that's a good point.

00:53:20.880 Just show us the room.

00:53:23.560 Show us what's inside the room.

00:53:25.880 Yeah.

00:53:26.360 We need more evidence.

00:53:27.660 One piece of evidence.

00:53:29.300 I mean, it's great.

00:53:29.940 I'm glad they released that.

00:53:30.960 It's not enough.

00:53:32.240 The other thing, I wonder, too, if Kash Patel and Dan Bongino are relying too much on the FBI's prior investigations, assuming that the FBI of old is a reliable narrator.

00:53:41.340 I don't know who conducted those investigations or if it was done soundly.

00:53:45.620 I doubt it was done soundly.

00:53:47.620 So may I just interject here?

00:53:49.980 I talked to Dan Bongino a few weeks ago about this off air, and he said, Glenn, we are turning over every stone.

00:53:57.540 We are going to get to the bottom of it.

00:53:59.960 We are.

00:54:00.420 So, I mean, he led me to believe that, and I believed him, and I still do, that he was using new resources, opening the investigation in a new way, following it closely.

00:54:13.620 And I do believe Dan Bongino is one of the good guys.

00:54:18.660 I do, too, and I've been told the same thing by very high-ranking officials at the FBI who I trust.

00:54:24.140 They're trustworthy people.

00:54:25.640 I do think that it might not be possible at this point to piece together everything because we know that there have been reports of evidence destruction.

00:54:32.500 So my issue with that definitive statement was the definitive nature of it, that this 100% happened this way.

00:54:39.660 Epstein killed himself, instead of saying we don't have enough evidence to piece this together or the evidence we have points to this.

00:54:45.180 All that being said, though, I want to talk about what happened last night because this brings us to Attorney General Pam Bondi, who just months ago said she had the Epstein client list on her desk.

00:54:55.380 When I went back and looked at that video, the clip of her on Fox News again this morning to make sure that there was not context that I was lacking, that there was not bungled phraseology, maybe nerves being on air, I went back and listened to it.

00:55:09.000 She said definitively she had the Epstein client list on her desk.

00:55:12.640 Now, fast forward to yesterday, she says that it doesn't exist, that they don't have it.

00:55:17.940 That is a really big problem.

00:55:20.300 If I'm President Trump today...

00:55:22.000 Let me play this from Bondi.

00:55:24.480 This is back in February.

00:55:25.680 Here is the actual statement she made.

00:55:27.500 Listen.

00:55:28.660 The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients?

00:55:32.920 Will that really happen?

00:55:33.900 It's sitting on my desk right now to review.

00:55:37.600 That's been a directive by President Trump.

00:55:40.240 I'm reviewing that.

00:55:41.060 I'm reviewing JFK files, MLK files.

00:55:44.080 That's all in the process of being reviewed because that was done at the directive of the president from all of these agencies.

00:55:49.580 So have you seen anything that you said, oh, my gosh?

00:55:53.660 Not yet.

00:55:55.660 Okay.

00:55:56.320 Well, we'll check back with you.

00:55:57.580 Okay, so now let me take you back to Kash Patel because something similar was said to me.

00:56:03.500 Here he is.

00:56:04.500 Cut 12.

00:56:05.540 So who has Jeffrey Epstein's...

00:56:08.580 Black book?

00:56:09.120 Black book.

00:56:09.680 FBI.

00:56:11.020 But who?

00:56:13.400 That is...

00:56:14.320 I mean, there's...

00:56:14.920 Oh, that's under direct control of the director of the FBI.

00:56:19.140 Just like the manifesto from the Nashville school shooting of the Catholic school.

00:56:24.700 We still haven't seen that, right?

00:56:26.900 It's not the Nashville police or PD saying we don't want this out.

00:56:30.820 The FBI airmailed into that operation and said this is not getting out.

00:56:35.060 Because they do that because they...

00:56:36.960 This is another government gangster operation.

00:56:39.720 All these local law enforcement communities get funding from the DOJ and FBI for local programs.

00:56:44.860 And if you don't cooperate, you're not getting your million dollars for this.

00:56:47.660 And you're not getting your...

00:56:48.260 And that's a lot of money to these local districts.

00:56:50.420 That's how they play the game.

00:56:52.300 That's why you don't have a black book.

00:56:53.440 But the black book, it's not just sitting...

00:56:56.760 I mean, that's...

00:56:57.880 That's...

00:56:58.700 That's Hoover power times 10.

00:57:02.520 And to me, that's a thing I think President Trump should run on.

00:57:05.500 On day one, roll out the black book.

00:57:07.840 And not just that.

00:57:11.360 On day one, roll out all of the text messaging communications we were told were deleted.

00:57:16.060 On day one, play the rest of the video of the pipe bomber.

00:57:18.700 On day...

00:57:19.000 You know, he needs...

00:57:19.780 One of the reforms I talk about in government gangsters is you need a central node to be continuously declassifying.

00:57:26.620 This is another thing they do.

00:57:27.560 They overclassify.

00:57:28.880 And I'm telling you, as a former number two in the IC, they overclassify 50% of the stuff there to protect the deep state.

00:57:36.780 Oh, no, you can't see that.

00:57:38.020 Nothing to see here.

00:57:39.600 Gina was a master at it, of doing it.

00:57:42.060 And we still haven't seen half of the Russiagate report that we wrote.

00:57:47.220 Still under lock and key.

00:57:49.600 On how the ICA was originally constructed.

00:57:53.400 We went...

00:57:53.860 We put 10,000 man hours against John Brennan's team that did it.

00:57:57.420 And we found out why they came up with their bogus conclusions.

00:58:00.660 But we couldn't sell it to the world because we couldn't talk about it.

00:58:04.300 And the government gangsters came in and buried it.

00:58:06.660 All of these things, there needs to be a continuing central power, whether it's the White House or off-site,

00:58:11.260 that says every request that comes in, just right out the door, as long as it's not a major threat to national security.

00:58:18.980 Liz, they're both very clear it existed.

00:58:23.680 But Pam Bondi did not say she had any names in it.

00:58:27.820 She kind of made me feel like she hadn't really even looked at it.

00:58:31.900 Cash Patel gave me the impression he had seen it, or at least he knew about it.

00:58:39.240 So how do we go from here?

00:58:41.700 Listen, people care deeply about the Epstein file because there was a grisly crime that we know for a fact was committed.

00:58:48.360 Epstein was convicted of that.

00:58:49.600 It wasn't speculative.

00:58:50.900 He was convicted of it.

00:58:52.160 People feel that there's evidence of a cover-up.

00:58:55.620 We're not inventing a conspiracy.

00:58:57.420 There's evidence of a cover-up of this crime.

00:58:59.680 Pam Bondi, as Attorney General, has exacerbated this trust.

00:59:03.540 And it gives me no pleasure to say this because I like to give the benefit of the doubt to people that are on our side.

00:59:08.840 But going back to that day at the White House in February, I haven't told this part of the story before.

00:59:14.440 Attorney General Pam Bondi, when we met with her, we weren't at the White House to meet with her.

00:59:18.120 We just met with her while we were there.

00:59:19.940 Pam Bondi bragged to us about making that cover sheet on the binder, the one that read the most transparent administration in history.

00:59:26.560 She said she had made it.

00:59:28.700 She had printed it.

00:59:29.660 She was proud of it.

00:59:30.520 She placed it on that binder.

00:59:32.480 Going to call that a severe lack of judgment would be the understatement of the year.

00:59:36.860 There is no way in my mind, and I have tried every way to Sunday, to square that behavior with the announcement that we got last night from the Department of Justice.

00:59:45.780 Pam Bondi told us at the time, she said, I requested the Epstein files.

00:59:49.160 The files in the binder were the ones given to me.

00:59:51.460 Nothing was in them, she told us at the time.

00:59:53.200 Then a whistleblower called her, she told us, and said the SDNY was hiding other files.

00:59:58.840 That's the story she told us, that there's been a deep state cover-up.

01:00:02.000 So at the time, after we were given these binders, we waited, right?

01:00:04.940 You give your side the benefit of the doubt.

01:00:06.360 Maybe Pam Bondi will come up with the goods, even though the rollout was botched, to say the least.

01:00:11.980 But she, this is another thing I have not discussed publicly before, she said she had not seen the SDNY documents at the time that she was telling us about them.

01:00:21.540 I asked her directly that day in the White House, when she said, a whistleblower told us about these truckloads of SDNY documents, I said, have you seen them?

01:00:29.380 She said, no.

01:00:30.160 She sent the request, and they're bringing them to her.

01:00:32.620 So contextualizing all of this, suddenly this seems like unforgivable behavior.

01:00:37.180 How could she give the American people, not just me, I don't care about how this impacts me,

01:00:40.380 how could she give the American people those phase one binders that contained nothing,

01:00:44.840 while at the same time bragging about the cover sheet that she made, the most transparent administration in history,

01:00:50.300 and tell us that the SDNY had the real goods, that the binder was just proof of a deep state cover-up,

01:00:55.320 that was the real story she told us, only now to say, sorry, there's actually nothing.

01:00:59.900 So it leaves us with this situation, what are the options?

01:01:03.220 The options as, well, was she herself set up by some deep state FBI career officials trying to make a fool of her?

01:01:09.480 It's possible, maybe even probable, but here's the thing, if you are smart, if you are savvy,

01:01:15.540 if you are sharp enough to be the Attorney General of the United States, you verify such information.

01:01:19.900 You don't assume it's veracity and publicize it for clicks, and that's what she did.

01:01:25.760 So then we get to the point that we think, okay, well, what does this say about her judgment?

01:01:29.500 Is she just click-thirsty?

01:01:32.240 Is she wanting to be a Fox News star?

01:01:34.000 Did she get out over her skis trying to make news, being a mega champion with those binders?

01:01:39.480 That maybe she had not verified the contents of, and she definitely hadn't verified the contents of the SDNY truckloads.

01:01:46.420 You can't square this announcement with the binders, the announcement yesterday with the binders in February,

01:01:51.480 unless you allow for the idea that Pam Bondi could be operating in a way that is unacceptable.

01:01:57.960 Went on Fox News, said she had a client list on her desk to review when she actually hadn't looked at the documents,

01:02:03.300 and was just saying that to be a television star.

01:02:05.240 I say this somewhat sorrowfully.

01:02:08.320 If I'm President Trump, I would not tolerate this behavior anymore.

01:02:11.260 She has become a liability to his administration.

01:02:14.220 I think the administration is probably just now coming to the realization of how much goodwill this whole debacle has cost them with their voters,

01:02:23.440 and Pam Bondi is not worth it.

01:02:26.080 She's a liability.

01:02:26.800 It's time to move on.

01:02:27.620 Okay, let me continue the conversation, because I want to throw out another possibility,

01:02:34.220 and it involves us, all of us, you and me and all of us, and we'll do that in 60 seconds.

01:02:41.440 Back with Liz Wheeler in 60 seconds.

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01:04:19.820 So Liz, I think you're probably in the same place that I'm in.

01:04:33.000 I really like Dan Bongino.

01:04:35.020 I trust him.

01:04:36.200 I really like Cash Patel and I trust him.

01:04:38.480 I don't know Pam Bondi, so I can't personally vouch for anything there.

01:04:43.960 And I don't want to think that there's something nefarious going on.

01:04:49.020 And I think it is likely, at least this is the most logical thing before you jump into

01:04:55.240 the conspiracies, we should take one stop and say, Cash Patel was wrong.

01:05:02.380 Pam Bondi was wrong.

01:05:04.560 Dan Bongino was wrong.

01:05:06.600 I was wrong.

01:05:08.300 We didn't have the information.

01:05:10.660 What information we did have, we took and we assumed that that was correct.

01:05:16.000 And we were wrong about it.

01:05:18.560 And now, now that they have access, they're wrong.

01:05:22.180 But I'm not hearing them come out and say, you know, I made deep and profound mistakes

01:05:29.000 because for years I had been saying this.

01:05:31.680 And here's why I was wrong.

01:05:35.280 And I don't think there's any shame in saying you're wrong.

01:05:39.100 But that is the most charitable explanation I can give, is that all of us were wrong about that.

01:05:46.860 And the left would love that to be true.

01:05:50.020 And quite honestly, I would rather have that be true than, you know, this deep state is getting

01:05:56.420 around the Trump administration and they're devouring our DOJ or whatever is happening.

01:06:01.740 What do you think the possibility is that all of us were just wrong?

01:06:06.940 And what has to be asked and answered to prove that?

01:06:12.760 Well, do you think you were wrong about Jeffrey Epstein and about deep state cover-up?

01:06:19.300 Do you think it's...

01:06:20.200 No, I don't.

01:06:21.580 I don't either.

01:06:23.080 But I don't have any...

01:06:23.700 And the reason that I don't think so...

01:06:24.820 I don't have any information other than my gut.

01:06:27.260 But go ahead.

01:06:28.500 No, I think we do have information.

01:06:30.140 Our gut is important, by the way, because that's our subconscious way of piecing together

01:06:34.460 the puzzle pieces that are spread out in our mind.

01:06:37.140 And so it's not just a feeling that we should ignore.

01:06:39.720 That's intuition.

01:06:40.580 And that's, like I said, sometimes your gut tells you before your mind pieces it together.

01:06:44.520 But I think we do have evidence that contradicts what we're being told, even from people we

01:06:50.160 trust, like Dan Bongino and Cash Patel.

01:06:51.900 And that's why it's so bothersome to us, because we want to trust these people.

01:06:55.640 They're the good guys.

01:06:56.600 Most of us are friends with them.

01:06:58.440 And yet we're getting...

01:06:59.520 We see this information.

01:07:00.360 I mean, even think of the medical examiner.

01:07:01.820 The outside medical examinations that happened to Epstein's body showed contradictions in

01:07:06.920 his physicality with the story that he committed suicide.

01:07:10.520 His hyoid bone was broken, for example.

01:07:12.440 These things, you shouldn't ignore.

01:07:16.320 Okay.

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01:08:49.920 So Liz Wheeler is with us from the Liz Wheeler program.

01:09:07.740 She is fantastic.

01:09:09.540 If you haven't watched the Liz Wheeler show, make sure you listen to it.

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01:09:19.020 much at all times now in America.

01:09:21.800 Are you going to call for Pam Bondi's resignation or firing today, Liz?

01:09:28.620 What I'm going to do is suggest to President Trump that he analyze whether Pam Bondi has

01:09:34.920 become a liability to his administration.

01:09:37.460 And I think he probably already realizes this.

01:09:39.960 He's a smart guy.

01:09:40.800 He's a good CEO.

01:09:42.140 He probably realizes that she has.

01:09:44.480 One, people care about the Epstein files in a totally different way than they care about

01:09:47.980 the JFK files.

01:09:49.060 We're all curious about, you know, who killed JFK.

01:09:51.580 But the Epstein files just get people in the gut a very different way than almost any other

01:09:57.180 deep state targeting.

01:09:59.300 And President Trump has lost a lot of goodwill with his voter base.

01:10:03.340 I didn't anticipate that this would happen.

01:10:05.680 It caught me off guard a little bit at the end of February after the binders came out.

01:10:09.160 But people turned so quickly on the Trump administration.

01:10:12.340 It's not worth it.

01:10:13.380 Pam Bondi is not a liability that's worth continuing.

01:10:17.160 So here's the thing.

01:10:18.540 Um, first of all, it's not just the Epstein case.

01:10:23.520 It's not.

01:10:24.400 It's just a symptom.

01:10:26.580 This is probably the, the biggest, because people like me and you and, and everybody,

01:10:33.460 Donald Trump, uh, cash Patel, Dan Bongino, when he had a show, we all talked about this

01:10:40.240 at great length.

01:10:41.180 And so it's not like we're just obsessed with Epstein.

01:10:45.080 No, no, no.

01:10:45.640 We need to know because just like when they started coming after our children, uh, with

01:10:51.860 CRT in schools, that's when America started to care.

01:10:55.580 This is about children being molested and possibly by, uh, some Intel guy, either from our Intel

01:11:03.980 or from foreign Intel.

01:11:05.800 Uh, I mean, why did our F, why did our CIA director meet with Epstein over and over again?

01:11:11.560 He's not connected to Intel at all.

01:11:14.260 Really?

01:11:15.200 Okay.

01:11:15.700 So it is a symptom of the bigger problem.

01:11:19.340 And the bigger problem in, in, in my world is, uh, you know, why, why don't we know about

01:11:26.200 the pipe bomber yet?

01:11:27.180 Why?

01:11:27.560 Let me say it this way.

01:11:28.660 First of all, I don't care about the individual case as much as I care about making a dent.

01:11:34.840 We were promised that people would go to jail over COVID.

01:11:39.440 Haven't seen any action on that.

01:11:42.160 What about the Supreme court who leaked that Supreme court Dobbs case?

01:11:46.520 I can tell you from a very high, high in the know, absolutely style source.

01:11:56.300 They know who it is.

01:11:58.140 They just won't do anything about it because of who it is.

01:12:01.660 What about all of the January six, the Capitol Hill police, the video that shows that people

01:12:06.840 perjured themselves.

01:12:07.860 Nobody went.

01:12:08.460 How about, how about the Russia hoax?

01:12:10.080 Russia, Russia, Russia.

01:12:11.360 Nothing has happened on that.

01:12:13.320 Why haven't we seen people go to jail yet, or at least have charges filed against them?

01:12:21.200 And I think that's why Pam is a liability because either, and this should be addressed either

01:12:29.840 there's three options.

01:12:32.340 Uh, they're lying to us, which I, I, I hope is the least likely to, they, they lied to us

01:12:41.100 in the way that it was like, lock her up, lock her up.

01:12:44.360 Oh, we're not going to lock her up.

01:12:46.320 But I think it's way beyond lock her up.

01:12:49.340 And that's a mistake.

01:12:50.660 Or they, everybody made a mistake and now nobody wants to admit it.

01:12:56.160 None of those can stand because that will kill the Trump administration.

01:13:01.020 I think Donald Trump needs to understand this is personal to people.

01:13:06.800 If you don't cut the spending and you don't fire those who are obviously involved in a

01:13:13.800 deep state thing, you don't have anything really.

01:13:18.280 You, you, you, you, what are you doing?

01:13:20.860 You know, those are the campaign promises that are visceral to people.

01:13:24.900 Yes, because what you're describing can be encapsulated in one word and that word is justice.

01:13:32.340 We don't want purple locks and orange jumpsuits because we're vindictive or because we're trying

01:13:38.040 to target our political enemies.

01:13:39.840 We want arrests of people who have weaponized the power of the federal government, abused

01:13:45.240 their power and weaponized that power against us to harm us, to target our children and to

01:13:50.180 destroy our families.

01:13:51.140 And we voted for president Trump because he promised us justice and justice requires not

01:13:56.940 just us being in charge of these government seats.

01:13:59.740 It requires actual justice, which is, which is, um, which would require arrests because

01:14:05.800 crimes have been committed when it comes to the pipe bomber.

01:14:08.780 I have to say, I do deeply care about that particular aspect of January 6th.

01:14:14.080 And while you can't say that you're confident in anybody in government at this point anymore,

01:14:19.840 if I go, there's my cynicism coming out for you.

01:14:22.840 If, if I could say that I'm confident that we will get to the bottom of that case, that

01:14:27.100 would be the case that I'm confident we will untangle.

01:14:29.540 And let me tell you, Glenn, when we do that one's fundamental, that one's foundational to

01:14:34.860 untangling exactly what happened, what was inflicted on us on January 6th.

01:14:40.220 And we are going to get justice in that case.

01:14:43.640 Mark my words, that one's coming down the line.

01:14:46.060 I agree.

01:14:46.920 Dan Bongino has told me off the air that they are close.

01:14:51.120 They are working on it.

01:14:52.320 Could fall apart at any time, but they are, they've doubled their efforts on that because

01:14:56.540 they believe they're close on that one.

01:14:58.140 Um, however, you know, I, I, I, I go back to, you know, what you just said is absolutely

01:15:05.320 right about justice.

01:15:07.480 But if, if we were wrong about these cases and it was just at Jeffrey Epstein and, uh,

01:15:15.120 you know, and his, and his, you know, Robin to his Batman who was setting him up with children

01:15:21.480 and it was only him and the children, then we need to know that and know that for sure.

01:15:27.620 And then honestly, once the people on our side are convinced of it and can see all the

01:15:34.120 evidence that that is true, we need to be able to say, wow, we were wrong.

01:15:38.980 So we don't get it wrong.

01:15:40.900 Again, you can't build a house.

01:15:42.960 If you, if you can't pull out some of the things, the cornerstones that have been laid

01:15:47.460 improperly, if this was wrong, if we got it wrong, because everybody was telling us it

01:15:54.460 was this direction and our gut was telling us, we must know the truth and have the evidence

01:16:01.040 that we can all look at and go, holy cow, we were wrong the whole time.

01:16:06.160 So we can adjust.

01:16:07.800 How can I possibly, uh, be a credible individual if, if I don't, if, if this isn't solved

01:16:17.420 one way or another with credible evidence, not just somebody's word.

01:16:23.040 I can't take it.

01:16:24.320 I can't take people's word for this.

01:16:26.820 No, and we shouldn't.

01:16:27.920 Even Dan Bongino often says that we shouldn't trust him.

01:16:30.520 We should look at the evidence.

01:16:31.560 Okay, well, we need to be shown the evidence.

01:16:34.140 That's another problem too.

01:16:35.260 And this is, this is the most simple way of encapsulating this is we were told we would

01:16:40.180 get the Epstein file.

01:16:41.320 Okay.

01:16:41.700 So give us the Epstein file.

01:16:43.240 Don't, I mean, we know how powerful words are in politics.

01:16:46.040 Think about HW Bush saying, read my lips, no more taxes.

01:16:49.420 I know his entire reelection campaign was tanked because he then raised taxes.

01:16:53.360 The same thing's going to happen in the midterms to Republicans.

01:16:55.940 If they, if the Trump administration promises, we will be transparent about the Epstein files.

01:17:00.480 And then suddenly on a Sunday night after July 4th, they release a weird memo that says,

01:17:05.220 actually, we're not going to release anything else to you because we don't think it's warranted.

01:17:08.400 You shouldn't believe anything that you've seen.

01:17:09.840 Just take our word for it without evidence.

01:17:11.160 Goodbye.

01:17:12.220 That's not going to cut it for the American people.

01:17:14.500 It's going to make us cynical and bitter, and it's going to deflate us.

01:17:18.260 Would it be different if you had seen people actually served papers on, you know, the, the COVID debacle,

01:17:30.580 and you had seen people that we were making progress or somebody, you know, was arrested with the pipe bomb,

01:17:38.280 or there was, there was movement towards arrests or towards a trial on any other of,

01:17:46.180 if they had two or three of these other things and they were all percolating and you're like,

01:17:50.320 well, they got that guy, they got that guy, hadn't gone to trial yet,

01:17:53.340 but they, they've identified and arrested them.

01:17:56.620 Would that make a difference on this one?

01:17:59.540 Because I think it would.

01:18:01.460 It would certainly make a difference in the trust the American people have in the Trump administration.

01:18:05.560 If we were seeing justice being enacted, then we would view what the debacle of the Epstein binders as just,

01:18:11.500 okay, well, they're not prioritizing that because they have higher, more pressing priorities,

01:18:15.620 which I think we would all agree with.

01:18:17.700 If they were actually pursuing justice about January 6th and about COVID,

01:18:21.080 those are 100% or higher on my priority list than the Epstein stuff is.

01:18:25.280 That was never number one on my, on my list of what I wanted to see justice about.

01:18:30.900 But we haven't seen that yet.

01:18:32.500 Yet, I mean, there are a lot of questions that I would need to have answered specific regarding specific pieces of evidence from the FBI and from the DOJ before I would believe these dismissals, right?

01:18:45.680 Remember that, that Amy Rohrbach ABC anchor tape from years ago that was released by Project Gareth Hoss.

01:18:52.560 And she was, she was saying, I had all the story on Jeffrey Epstein and even implicated Clinton,

01:18:58.660 but my bosses wouldn't let me air it because they wanted to get a, an interview with the palace, the UK royalty.

01:19:04.680 They wanted a Will and Tate interview.

01:19:05.900 So they didn't want to mention Prince Andrew in it.

01:19:07.620 So we weren't allowed to air it.

01:19:09.100 I want answers about that before I just say, oh, Jeffrey Epstein was the only client, you know,

01:19:15.460 but Ghislaine Maxwell was just trafficking to him.

01:19:18.600 Well, what about Prince Andrew?

01:19:19.640 What about the fact that they've taken him out of public life?

01:19:22.220 That's, if that's not an implicit admission of guilt, I don't know what is.

01:19:26.680 I don't think they would do that if they didn't believe it was true.

01:19:29.400 I need a lot.

01:19:30.520 And that's one of many examples that I would need explicitly addressed.

01:19:35.820 And I would need to be the one to be able to judge the evidence that contradicts what we have seen thus far, if that exists.

01:19:42.380 And I mean, I don't believe it exists, but I'm not ideologically tied to this position.

01:19:47.600 I, the highest thing that I'm pursuing here is the truth.

01:19:50.240 You show me evidence and I'll let it lead where it may.

01:19:54.640 Liz, thank you very much.

01:19:55.880 I think you're very thoughtful and you're, you're, you're, you're just, you're well-spoken on this.

01:20:01.140 Thank you so much, Liz.

01:20:02.180 Appreciate it.

01:20:02.940 Thank you, Brian.

01:20:03.420 I appreciate it.

01:20:04.800 You bet.

01:20:05.360 Liz Wheeler from the Liz Wheeler show.

01:20:07.340 You know, we're in a situation where I've been saying to you for weeks, we, we can't turn on each other.

01:20:17.820 We can't turn on.

01:20:19.380 I mean, you want to know how, you know, Elon Musk starts his new stupid third party.

01:20:26.020 And I can't, I shouldn't say it's stupid because there's times I just want to throw them all out.

01:20:29.800 And if, if I believed that we could have, you know, the rebellion that we had against the Whigs and it would turn out the way it did with Abraham Lincoln, then I would be for it.

01:20:40.800 I don't think this is it because the people aren't passionate enough.

01:20:45.080 Um, you know, unfortunately about the debt or we would have had, you know, progress on the debt.

01:20:52.160 It's not visceral enough yet for people.

01:20:55.720 And that is his one issue.

01:20:57.820 Uh, but you start putting things like this together and you make, uh, make up ground on it.

01:21:03.720 That's why the president and Dan Bongino and, uh, cash Patel.

01:21:09.080 And again, I don't, I can't speak for Pam Bondi.

01:21:11.960 I know the other two and I have spoken to Dan recently on this and he's very frustrated because they are making progress on things.

01:21:20.940 The problem is there hasn't been any movement, uh, of significance on any of these issues.

01:21:30.720 Nobody has gone to jail even for perjury.

01:21:35.280 And we know that people, why hasn't, why, why haven't they at least filed charges against Fauci?

01:21:42.360 We know he perjured himself.

01:21:45.040 We know it.

01:21:46.960 Well, the cost is too high.

01:21:49.440 You know, we'll never really get him on that anyway.

01:21:51.680 Well, you know what?

01:21:53.340 At times you have to just swing, just swing, at least put up a good fight on it.

01:21:59.280 Um, but there doesn't seem to be anything that the public sees yet.

01:22:04.780 And that is my real concern because I trust these guys and I don't want to go down the rabbit hole of not trusting them.

01:22:14.600 Um, but just somebody needs to be on the inside saying, Hey guys, I know you're really busy.

01:22:21.400 I know how, I know what you're doing, but this is how it looks to the American people.

01:22:26.900 And there's some easy ways to fix it.

01:22:30.360 Fix it.

01:22:31.600 All right.

01:22:32.280 Glenn, real quick, just to quickly mention, I know this doesn't cover all of what you're talking about, but if you, just to remind you that, uh, our wonderful former president, Joe Biden did pardon Anthony Fauci for every crime he may have committed between the years of, I think, 2014 and his time leaving office.

01:22:47.800 So, uh, it does cover quite a bit of terrorism by an auto pen.

01:22:51.480 Yeah.

01:22:51.720 No, I get it.

01:22:52.740 I know there's controversy around it.

01:22:53.780 Just wanted to just to remind us of what a wonderful president we had.

01:22:57.020 I know we, we, you know, we have all of these, we have all of these investigations going on in Congress.

01:23:04.140 I don't care about the congressional hearing because they don't go anywhere ever, ever.

01:23:10.660 I'm interested in what the FBI is doing and what the DOJ says we're going to prosecute.

01:23:16.400 I, they need more transparency just to show the American people where they are on things and let's just start moving on the easy ones for the love of Pete.

01:23:26.820 Just start moving on the easy ones because it's not about Jeffrey Epstein.

01:23:32.340 It's really not.

01:23:33.620 It's about, are we going to get justice?

01:23:36.240 All right.

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01:33:18.720 All right, we welcome Stubergear to the program, our executive producer and our head writer for television

01:33:24.960 and also our chief researcher, Jason Buttrill.

01:33:29.040 Guys, biggest story of the day, in your opinion, Stu, first.

01:33:34.100 The floods, without a doubt, I think is the biggest story of the day.

01:33:39.200 You know why you say that?

01:33:40.620 Why?

01:33:40.800 Because you have a heart.

01:33:41.980 Now listen to Jason.

01:33:43.200 Listen to Jason.

01:33:43.900 He's not going to say that.

01:33:44.800 Go ahead, Jason.

01:33:45.600 What's the biggest story of the day?

01:33:46.920 I'm madder than I'll get out, Glenn.

01:33:48.580 It's all about this Epstein crap.

01:33:50.740 I'm going to get you in trouble right now.

01:33:53.400 I don't know if I should.

01:33:54.740 Yeah, well, hang on, Grinch.

01:33:58.540 I want to hear a little bit.

01:33:59.800 I want to hear about really people dying before we get to you, Jason.

01:34:05.140 So, Stu, what is the, I mean, besides the amazing rescues, did you hear about the guy who was in his home?

01:34:12.700 I think it was a trailer with his, maybe his mother-in-law or his wife.

01:34:18.820 I think it was his mother-in-law.

01:34:20.720 And two children, they couldn't get out.

01:34:23.260 By the time it was up to their ankles, and by the time he gathered all the children and tried to open the door,

01:34:28.960 it was up to the waist, and he couldn't open the door.

01:34:31.660 And so he broke the bedroom window and took the mattress and was shoving it out the window with his kids on top of it,

01:34:41.540 and he cut his arm and sliced the artery on the broken glass, sliced the artery, almost cut his arm completely off.

01:34:55.400 He's hemorrhaging as he's still pushing the kids and everybody out the window,

01:35:00.300 and at the very end, he says, I'm not going to make it, but stay safe.

01:35:05.280 I love you.

01:35:06.240 And he dies, rescuing his family.

01:35:09.000 I mean, it's amazing stories coming out of this.

01:35:11.640 Yeah, I mean, it's one of the worst stories that I can remember in a long time.

01:35:15.600 Certain stories hit you in different ways, right?

01:35:17.880 Like, I always thought, you know, and maybe it's, you know, the era of life that you're in, right?

01:35:22.580 Like, I was, had, you know, very, you know, you were at the beginning of, I have kids that, like, were going to camp or thinking about going to camp this year.

01:35:31.920 They're right around the age of group of these girls that were killed.

01:35:36.160 And, you know, you think about back to, like, the other one that always hits me, like, this is Newtown.

01:35:40.600 You know, obviously all these shootings are different, but, like, the Newtown one in particular, just, you know,

01:35:44.500 five-year-olds and, like, just completely, you know, completely innocent and just awful.

01:35:50.260 So it hits me, it hits you at that level.

01:35:52.240 And then you also see the reaction to it, which has just been so ridiculous.

01:35:56.040 All these false claims about how, well, it's the budget cuts that are the reason for this.

01:36:02.100 It's absurd.

01:36:03.580 I can't take it.

01:36:04.620 Heartless people who are making these political points on the backs of dead children.

01:36:09.000 It's disgraceful.

01:36:10.480 So, I mean, especially when you know the facts, two people usually are on duty, you know, at NOAA.

01:36:18.920 There were five on duty because they knew the storm was coming.

01:36:24.920 All of this stuff about budget, I can't take it.

01:36:28.160 You know, I did something poorly, you know, in hour one of the podcast today.

01:36:33.340 And, you know, I just can't take the, I cannot take the moral, I don't know, snobbery of the left anymore.

01:36:46.180 The fact that just, they're just, they're morally superior to everybody else.

01:36:50.580 And we know.

01:36:51.260 And that's why the budget shouldn't have been cut.

01:36:53.520 You have no idea what you're even talking about.

01:36:56.500 Stop it.

01:36:57.420 Just stop it.

01:36:58.200 All right.

01:36:59.480 So, Jason, with your heart full of compassion or tinsel, I can't remember which one it is, you're saying the Epstein story is the biggest.

01:37:09.680 And why is that?

01:37:11.820 Because I think Epstein is not the story.

01:37:15.920 I think it is the truck or the vehicle that is bringing this story.

01:37:22.200 But the, what the real story is here is the lack of justice, it seems.

01:37:29.160 Yeah.

01:37:29.700 And you're right there, how I'm feeling on this.

01:37:33.220 I mean, we've gone from, let's just go do a quick flyby of the timeline.

01:37:37.000 We've gone from, we're going to release the Epstein list.

01:37:39.520 We're going to figure this out.

01:37:40.960 Then, you know, the next year or so, it went to, well, we just need more time to do this, as Pam Bondi was saying.

01:37:48.080 And then Pam Bondi, again, the Epstein list is on my desk, and now there is no Epstein list.

01:37:55.040 We're not sure what you're talking about.

01:37:56.760 I'm just predicting the future.

01:37:58.680 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:37:58.700 Don't, hang on.

01:37:59.900 Don't, don't just, don't just stop it.

01:38:01.880 It's on my desk.

01:38:02.680 Then the next line from her was, they are stopping us from getting all of the information we need in New York City at the FBI office.

01:38:15.580 And that's when I got on the air and said, if that is true, why aren't you there arresting those people who are being insubordinate in the pursuit of justice?

01:38:26.440 And nothing happened, which just didn't ring true to me.

01:38:30.200 There's something wrong.

01:38:32.680 Right.

01:38:32.900 And before I get to that point, I'll just say that in the future, we're now going to be saying that Epstein never existed, period.

01:38:39.700 He is a made up person.

01:38:41.680 We don't even know who.

01:38:43.740 He's probably scrubbed from the internet at that point.

01:38:46.960 But I, Glenn, the only thing I can come up with here, there's two explanations, right?

01:38:52.140 Do you want the dark one or the not so dark one first?

01:38:55.180 I'll let you choose.

01:38:56.020 I mean, I'll go with the dark one first so then we have a happy ending.

01:39:01.240 Okay.

01:39:01.860 So this is the dark one.

01:39:04.560 Why have these things not gotten out?

01:39:06.720 Why is the list not gotten out?

01:39:07.860 Why is this still being a secret?

01:39:10.380 Imagine, if you will, for a second, the economic impact of, let's say there is a list, the economic

01:39:17.060 impact that multiple major CEOs, Fortune 500 guys, the richest people in the world are on

01:39:24.140 this list.

01:39:24.740 Now, imagine having to choose, do we let this out?

01:39:29.660 And then you're like right there, you know, talking to the big decision makers.

01:39:32.940 If we let this out, the U.S. economy will take this hit, this hit, this hit, this hit.

01:39:37.160 Can we do that right now?

01:39:38.800 And imagine that this has gone through multiple different presidential administrations with

01:39:42.720 the same exact choice to make.

01:39:46.080 Are they willing to let that happen?

01:39:48.360 Can I tell you something?

01:39:49.300 Can I tell you something?

01:39:49.900 I learned something about myself, I think it was last week or the week after, or the

01:39:55.660 week before.

01:39:56.220 What was the week when we bombed Iran?

01:40:00.520 It feels like 14 years ago.

01:40:02.360 I can't.

01:40:02.940 Doesn't it?

01:40:03.300 It's so weird how this happens.

01:40:04.320 When we were going through that, I wrestled with my, I know about Iran, I know the threat

01:40:10.400 they pose, I know the threat they pose to the United States of America, but as I put

01:40:14.860 myself in Donald Trump's shoes, I thought, this is why I couldn't be president.

01:40:19.900 Could I make the choice that I'm so certain that I could be the guy that started World

01:40:27.080 War III?

01:40:28.740 You know, it's a very lonely, the presidency is a very lonely place.

01:40:33.440 It all rests on you.

01:40:35.680 And I just didn't think I would, you know, I said to myself, well, that's why you're not

01:40:39.820 president, nor should you ever run for president.

01:40:42.100 Because I don't know if I would have had the guts to do what he did, which I think is the

01:40:46.640 right thing.

01:40:47.340 On this one, oh, the economy crashes because we have people who are pedophiles.

01:40:54.180 I shut the whole country down.

01:40:55.820 I don't really care.

01:40:56.820 I don't care.

01:40:57.460 The economy collapses.

01:40:58.700 Good.

01:40:59.100 It should collapse.

01:41:00.360 This cannot stand.

01:41:01.640 This is children being molested.

01:41:04.660 I have no, I don't lose a wink of sleep if the economy nosedives.

01:41:08.520 No.

01:41:09.020 Do you?

01:41:09.940 I don't.

01:41:10.640 I've never been in that position to where I have to make that call.

01:41:14.080 I would like to say, yes, I would not.

01:41:16.040 I would do exactly what you said that they would do.

01:41:17.940 But I don't.

01:41:18.560 Who knows what goes on behind closed doors?

01:41:21.440 And you went geopolitical there.

01:41:23.200 That was my other half to that dark scenario was multiple different world leaders, world

01:41:28.460 leaders that you have trade agreements with, that you have multiple defense packs with,

01:41:33.160 all those things.

01:41:33.980 What if they're on there?

01:41:35.160 What do you do?

01:41:36.320 Now, what do you do?

01:41:37.560 There's phone conversations between their intelligence communities, yours, the leaders

01:41:41.480 themselves.

01:41:42.140 Do you let this out?

01:41:43.760 And again, this goes back multiple different presidential administrations.

01:41:48.120 Who knows?

01:41:49.240 Who knows?

01:41:50.500 Can I tell you what went through my head when you said that?

01:41:53.000 I first thought, well, this is how bad I, this is another reason why I'm not president

01:41:55.980 is because if I had world leaders on that list, yeah, I would probably hold their names

01:42:01.900 back only if they gave me everything I wanted.

01:42:06.220 I mean, I would use it as political blackmail.

01:42:08.400 I would be like, yeah, you know what?

01:42:10.240 Yeah.

01:42:10.480 Your tariff is going to be 80% now.

01:42:13.300 Okay.

01:42:13.660 And by the way, you know, who's on our side all the time?

01:42:17.180 No questions asked.

01:42:18.560 I think about bombing, you know, a couple of neighborhoods in your country.

01:42:23.060 Guess who's going to be leading it?

01:42:24.440 You.

01:42:25.280 Okay.

01:42:25.460 You know what I mean?

01:42:26.340 Right.

01:42:27.320 It's so bad to say that, but I would be tempted to go, oh, well, we're going to get a few things

01:42:32.260 that need to be done, done.

01:42:33.960 Okay.

01:42:34.220 So you went exactly to the lighter explanation.

01:42:37.520 So for, in my mind, there's only two, but your mind went exactly to the, so this is

01:42:41.100 the light side.

01:42:41.900 The only other explanation I could think of why this is happening.

01:42:44.540 And the second one is, we know the intelligence community is involved in this somehow.

01:42:50.480 Like Liz Wheeler said.

01:42:51.580 Why do you say that?

01:42:52.480 Why do you say that?

01:42:53.380 The CIA director does not just go and pay attention to in a direct meeting with a guy

01:42:59.220 involved in a, if it's a low-end sex trafficking case, he doesn't just go there because it's

01:43:04.800 a low-end sex trafficking case and have meetings.

01:43:07.040 Doesn't do it.

01:43:07.560 Give me the actual scenario on who visited and when, where in the timeline was it?

01:43:14.800 This was Biden's CIA director, last administration.

01:43:19.300 It might even happen before he was CIA director, had multiple meetings with Epstein himself.

01:43:26.940 And then even before that, as you mentioned before, Alex Acosta, when he was with DOJ handling

01:43:32.500 this case, said, I was told to back off.

01:43:35.600 I was told he, quote, belonged to intelligence.

01:43:40.340 Correct.

01:43:41.060 We know the intelligence community was involved some way if the reporting is accurate.

01:43:47.900 Which is, you know, we can allow for potentially some of it not being.

01:43:51.540 And, you know, you do have at times whistleblowers that aren't accurate on their claims.

01:43:55.700 Yeah.

01:43:55.980 So if not, I would love to hear those specific explanations.

01:43:59.760 Sure.

01:44:00.060 Which we haven't, haven't happened yet.

01:44:01.600 So the lightest explanation I can think of is that, and this is similar to, because I,

01:44:07.180 Glenn, you know, you had me go deep into the JFK files.

01:44:10.060 Some of the things we found once we got into them was that, well, there was a lot of conversations

01:44:15.620 that sounded guilty in the JFK assassination stuff.

01:44:19.260 It made the CIA look not great in multiple different areas.

01:44:23.420 So the lightest possible explanation I can think of here is that the intelligence community

01:44:28.160 at least thought about, allegedly, possibly, leveraging this situation.

01:44:34.560 Like, oh my gosh, who was involved?

01:44:36.980 Maybe we can somehow leverage this in our favor somehow.

01:44:40.020 Whether that's through trade deals, whether that's through defense packs, whether that's

01:44:42.840 whatever.

01:44:43.980 Think of something.

01:44:45.140 It was discussed.

01:44:47.080 Possibly it was never acted upon.

01:44:49.000 Who knows?

01:44:49.880 But they look guilty somehow.

01:44:51.640 And if that's the case, we won't find this out for another 50 years once they have like

01:44:56.120 another JFK file release, something like that.

01:44:58.360 I don't think we find out at this point.

01:44:59.760 So let me give you a scenario when I come back and give me one minute.

01:45:04.320 And I'm going to come back and I want to lay out a scenario to see if you as a, just as

01:45:09.020 a human being, not American or anything else, just as a human being, if you would accept

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01:46:40.860 Okay.

01:46:43.060 Okay, let's, you're married to a spouse and you trust your spouse.

01:46:47.760 You always have.

01:46:49.360 But then your spouse has left a receipt for a hotel or a motel in their jacket and you find

01:47:00.500 it and you're like, what the?

01:47:02.200 Yeah, you don't say anything.

01:47:04.640 And then you start to see charges about nice dinners out.

01:47:09.600 And then there's the late night meetings that start to happen.

01:47:13.440 And he's gone on weekends and he has a perfectly good excuse for all of them.

01:47:18.520 You know, I had to work this weekend.

01:47:20.180 I had to meet with this client, but he's traveling around, et cetera, et cetera.

01:47:23.480 And then there's Amex charges to places like Tiffany's and there's no gifts coming.

01:47:28.440 And so you finally take all of these things and you say there could be a perfectly good

01:47:34.820 reason, a reasonable explanation for all of this.

01:47:37.800 But he says, it's not happening.

01:47:41.940 It's just not happening.

01:47:43.700 Is it reasonable for you to accept that?

01:47:49.660 I don't think so.

01:47:52.320 Is it reasonable to say, honey, I've always trusted you.

01:47:56.760 I still trust you.

01:47:57.820 But these things don't fit into the pattern of our normal life.

01:48:04.300 And I just, I can, can you show me why were you staying at this hotel?

01:48:08.520 Who are you having dinner with?

01:48:11.000 Why all of a sudden all these late nights and the weekends and what did you buy at Tiffany's?

01:48:17.180 Now there might be a reasonable explanation for all of it, but you will never ever be able

01:48:22.420 to have a good relationship in your marriage if he doesn't explain fully all of those things,

01:48:30.700 because you will always have in the back of your mind, I think he was cheating on me.

01:48:37.300 And that's the problem.

01:48:38.920 We have too many receipts.

01:48:41.100 We have too many late nights.

01:48:42.820 We have too many dinners out.

01:48:44.860 We have too many lies that haven't been, that haven't made sense.

01:48:49.540 And it's all the same kind of people, you know, the intel people.

01:48:54.800 It's all the same.

01:48:57.520 And we never seem to get an answer.

01:49:00.120 And now what Pam Bondi apparently and Dan Bongino and Cash Patel are asking is we're married to them.

01:49:08.340 They're our spouse.

01:49:09.440 We love them.

01:49:10.400 We love them.

01:49:10.980 We've always trusted them.

01:49:12.440 But guys, you cannot come to us and just expect us to dismiss all of these receipts.

01:49:23.020 You have to take them one by one and say, like you did with the prison cam.

01:49:30.080 Okay, so I see the prison cam.

01:49:31.700 That's great.

01:49:32.220 Now Liz Wheeler says, I'd like to see what's inside.

01:49:34.480 Is there a way out?

01:49:35.440 That's reasonable.

01:49:36.680 Let me see the room.

01:49:38.160 Is there any way in or out?

01:49:39.940 I doubt it.

01:49:40.800 But is there any way in or out that room?

01:49:42.680 Well then, okay.

01:49:43.640 You've given me the receipt.

01:49:45.460 Great.

01:49:46.240 Now let's just go down the checklist.

01:49:49.840 What happened?

01:49:52.140 Why was a prosecutor told, back off, he belongs to intel?

01:50:00.840 What happened with Prince Andrew?

01:50:02.740 Was he the only client?

01:50:06.560 What happened to the black book?

01:50:08.640 Did that not exist?

01:50:09.520 Did you get that wrong?

01:50:11.820 Pambandi, you said it was sitting on your desk.

01:50:14.180 Were you lying to us?

01:50:15.720 Or did you just shoot your mouth off?

01:50:18.520 Which is, you know, can happen.

01:50:20.520 You just shot your mouth off and you hadn't even looked at it.

01:50:23.940 You had no idea there was nothing in it.

01:50:26.660 And then when you looked at it, but then you came to us the next day or a couple of days later and you said,

01:50:31.620 oh, well, they're obstructing us from getting all of the information.

01:50:35.300 But you never arrested anyone.

01:50:37.040 You never even send anybody to question them that we know of.

01:50:42.240 Now, maybe you did, but you haven't said anything.

01:50:46.100 That's a gift from Tiffany's that we haven't received a present.

01:50:50.880 And what did you just buy at Tiffany's?

01:50:53.100 I'm sorry, you can't just say, it was a gift for somebody, okay?

01:50:58.560 It wasn't what you thought it was.

01:51:00.640 Great.

01:51:02.060 Tell me what it is and show me the evidence.

01:51:06.400 That's all I'm asking for and it's perfectly reasonable.

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01:52:49.380 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:52:51.600 So, Glenn, where does this leave you?

01:52:56.440 Because I think coming into this-

01:52:59.080 On which?

01:52:59.620 On the Epstein thing.

01:53:01.140 Okay.

01:53:02.280 Coming into this administration, I think that if, like, you had to design a team that would

01:53:09.960 be responsible for investigating this, you wouldn't have picked Pam Bondi, no knock on Pam Bondi,

01:53:15.980 but you don't know her.

01:53:17.340 I don't know her.

01:53:17.440 But you probably would have picked Kash Patel and Dan Bongino.

01:53:21.440 Easy.

01:53:21.780 As part of that group.

01:53:22.920 Would have easy.

01:53:23.800 Would have easy.

01:53:24.520 What could, why, why, I mean, why would the belief linger if they are telling you this

01:53:33.280 is not the, this is not the evidence they have, why would it, the belief linger with you

01:53:38.980 that maybe they're not telling the whole truth?

01:53:43.040 And I'm not saying that they're not telling the whole truth.

01:53:45.180 I'm not saying that.

01:53:46.480 I'm saying they're not closing the loop.

01:53:50.300 For instance, Dan Bongino called me right after the first time, and we had a long talk,

01:53:56.480 and he said, Glenn, you know me.

01:53:58.400 And I'm like, I do know you.

01:53:59.680 I'm not, I'm not saying that you're lying.

01:54:02.400 I'm saying you got to close the loop.

01:54:04.240 And he said, Glenn, I watched the video.

01:54:07.560 He said, Dan, you got to release the video.

01:54:09.420 He said, okay, we'll release the video, but that still won't be enough.

01:54:12.520 And he's right.

01:54:13.500 And he's right.

01:54:13.840 Not, I'm not questioning.

01:54:15.260 He's right about that.

01:54:16.500 But I'm not questioning the suicide.

01:54:19.180 I'm satisfied now seeing the video.

01:54:22.280 Now, Liz said, I'd like to see the room.

01:54:24.140 Was there an adjoining room and another way out?

01:54:26.180 Well, no, prisons don't, you know, prison cells don't usually have, but just take a picture

01:54:30.600 of, you know what I mean?

01:54:31.780 Just take a picture of that room that he was in.

01:54:34.120 That's all you need.

01:54:35.720 And then that pretty much sews it up unless you want to go deeper that the tape was edited

01:54:41.040 or whatever, but you can't satisfy everybody all the time.

01:54:44.420 Right.

01:54:44.780 But that doesn't solve the Epstein.

01:54:48.240 Epstein, it was rumored that he killed himself, and it's logical that he killed himself because

01:54:55.620 of the client list.

01:54:58.560 Who was on the client list?

01:55:00.300 That's what we've been talking about for the whole time.

01:55:02.180 Who was on the client list?

01:55:03.820 Who was in his little black book?

01:55:05.880 Who would ride the airplane with him?

01:55:07.980 And even if he wasn't charging them, who did he have the goods on?

01:55:12.180 Well, now we find out there is no client list.

01:55:14.440 There was no black book.

01:55:16.040 And he never blackmailed anybody.

01:55:18.440 Well, and to be clear, isn't this part of the way they're communicating this idea?

01:55:24.780 Because we all know there was a list of contacts.

01:55:28.400 That's been reported, and we've seen it already.

01:55:30.740 We've already seen that.

01:55:31.920 The question is, is there an additional list beyond the one we already know about, which

01:55:36.760 does not signify illegal activity.

01:55:39.360 It just has a bunch of names that are famous people.

01:55:43.240 So when they say there's no client list, well, we already knew there was a client list.

01:55:47.040 Well, both of those are, what they're saying, both of those are true, right?

01:55:50.800 We know there was a list, but they're saying there was not an additional list that signified

01:55:55.480 some sort of hardcore record on illegal activity.

01:55:59.780 Correct.

01:56:00.140 That's what they're saying.

01:56:00.700 But by the way, just so you know, this is not just the hardcore right that believes this.

01:56:05.460 Because, remember, what is the left saying today?

01:56:09.000 The reason why we're not seeing it is because Donald J. Trump's name is in it.

01:56:13.760 And also, Elon Musk said that, yes.

01:56:16.880 Right.

01:56:17.260 So they believe it.

01:56:18.520 Everybody believes that there was something going on.

01:56:22.720 Okay.

01:56:23.040 So when everybody believes that something is going on, it's not 13% like it is the Kennedy

01:56:29.260 assassination or the moon shot.

01:56:31.620 But it's both sides deeply say, this happened.

01:56:37.360 All right.

01:56:37.820 So can you clarify before you go on, Glenn?

01:56:40.180 What is this?

01:56:41.580 This happened.

01:56:42.660 What is this?

01:56:43.440 That Jeffrey Epstein was a child predator that also was hanging out with others who liked

01:56:55.940 their, not necessarily children, but their girls to be young, underage.

01:57:02.000 Not eight, but 16.

01:57:04.500 That these girls were procured and trained, not just for Epstein, but for others in his

01:57:13.580 friend's circle, whether he charged them or not.

01:57:16.840 Okay.

01:57:17.340 And when you have that kind of information on somebody, then you would tend to use it just

01:57:24.400 to get favors.

01:57:25.220 But then you go into the Intel, and this is kind of a pattern with Intel.

01:57:31.560 This is the things that people have done throughout history is get sexual escapades on tape or have

01:57:37.740 proof of it and then use it to get your own way, either as a country or to blackmail.

01:57:42.420 And so when you're looking at his death, okay, for me, I'm ready to go, okay, maybe he did

01:57:51.980 kill himself.

01:57:53.140 Okay.

01:57:53.480 I don't see anybody coming through.

01:57:55.680 I haven't done forensics on the tape or whatever, and I suppose we could do that easily, but it

01:58:00.760 doesn't look like anybody went in or out.

01:58:03.180 And I believe that it wasn't edited by Cash Patel and Dan Bongino.

01:58:07.480 Okay.

01:58:08.040 I believe that nobody came in.

01:58:09.980 Nobody came out from the time he was put in that night and somebody saw him alive to

01:58:15.160 the time they found him dead.

01:58:16.600 There's no, there's nothing going in or out of that door.

01:58:19.400 Okay.

01:58:19.660 That's a big one, but that doesn't that now I have to go.

01:58:23.980 Okay.

01:58:25.080 Yeah, but he went in for child trafficking.

01:58:28.480 So he was only trafficking for himself.

01:58:31.940 I need to see the receipts on that.

01:58:34.680 And it's not good enough to say, well, they're all gone.

01:58:37.980 They never existed.

01:58:38.980 Well, then how did you, how did you convict him for trafficking children?

01:58:45.360 Okay.

01:58:46.400 Then there you have the Prince Andrew thing.

01:58:48.660 That is pretty compelling that Prince Andrew was doing something with, with Epstein.

01:58:53.920 I, I, I, I, all I need is I need you, as I said, you know, if your wife or your husband is cheating on you or, or not cheating on you, but you find in their pockets or in their car hotel receipts where you never stayed with your wife or your husband.

01:59:13.240 Uh, there was fancy, uh, there was fancy dinners out on nights that he was supposed to be working.

01:59:18.220 Uh, there's hotels and mysterious weekends where all of a sudden he's got to work over the weekend.

01:59:23.580 There's Amex charges to like Tiffany's or, or, or, you know, someplace where you haven't seen any present present.

01:59:29.180 You can't just say, honey, the hotel receipt.

01:59:34.060 I, I, that was for business.

01:59:36.120 And you can call Bob at the office.

01:59:38.060 We both, he has a receipt too.

01:59:39.520 I'll show it to you.

01:59:40.380 Okay.

01:59:41.760 That's great.

01:59:43.200 But that doesn't answer the dinners out, the weekend works, the, the Tiffany's just because you've shown me one, I got to see answers to all of these.

01:59:54.420 If we're going to repair our relationship as a country, I need to see all of them.

01:59:59.560 I can't have any lingering doubt here.

02:00:02.160 You have to make your case.

02:00:03.840 Unfortunately, the opposite of what is legally required.

02:00:06.940 I need to be left without, you know, with, with, uh, without the reasonable doubt that something was, was nefarious here through our government, not just Epstein, but through our government.

02:00:21.280 Okay.

02:00:22.020 Epstein was guilty.

02:00:23.200 I would love to believe that he only, he was the only one molesting these children.

02:00:30.580 I find it hard to believe, but not impossible to believe, but you've got to give me more.

02:00:37.860 Don't ask me for trust.

02:00:39.500 Cause I I'm the, the bank of trust and not because of Dan Bongino, not because of cash Patel, because of everything that has happened over the last 50 years, the Glenn Beck trust account is closed.

02:00:55.560 There's no trust left.

02:00:57.160 You can't take any more to, you can't take any more out without making significant deposits now.

02:01:03.720 And that's all I'm asking for make significant deposit.

02:01:08.480 You started, you did one, you showed me the tape.

02:01:11.420 Great.

02:01:12.640 Now keep showing me stuff.

02:01:16.100 So is that unreasonable?

02:01:17.580 No, I don't think it's unreasonable.

02:01:19.020 I mean, I think they might see it as like, Hey, we've got a lot of other things to do that are really important of lists.

02:01:25.220 We've brought up, right?

02:01:26.440 Like maybe I just, we've done, I just saw the big, beautiful bill.

02:01:29.560 We've got some money.

02:01:31.440 Spend a few bucks.

02:01:32.700 Put a couple of people on this.

02:01:34.380 Right.

02:01:34.580 This is part of your job.

02:01:36.740 I'm sorry, but PR is a part of your job.

02:01:40.280 You got to do it.

02:01:41.540 Part of, would you agree that part of the sort of implicit criticism before Trump got back into office here on this Epstein issue is that basically they had all of this stuff, the Biden administration, they knew all of it.

02:01:54.720 And they just didn't release it because they wanted to protect their buddies.

02:01:59.220 They were involved.

02:02:01.160 They, you know, who knows?

02:02:02.640 Too many of their friends were connected to it.

02:02:04.400 Right.

02:02:05.220 I think that was somewhat implicit in the criticism of Biden over those years.

02:02:11.320 And like, if you agree that that information was easily accessible to the Bidens and the Biden administration and is not being released here, then you have to come to some sort of conclusion that this, there is a bad intent by the current Trump administration to hide this from Americans.

02:02:34.360 And I don't think that's where I don't buy your first premise, I don't buy your first premise, because I'm not saying that anyone had access to everything and they were hiding.

02:02:46.240 It might have been.

02:02:47.480 That's that's what we were told that it was being held back.

02:02:51.100 OK.

02:02:51.580 Yeah.

02:02:51.860 And we were being told by Pam Bondi that after the election.

02:02:55.060 Right.

02:02:56.620 What I have always believed is sexual predators are not just Democrats.

02:03:03.320 They're not just Republicans.

02:03:05.360 They're not just independents.

02:03:06.920 They're all of them.

02:03:08.000 They're not just truck drivers.

02:03:09.640 They're CEOs.

02:03:11.760 So the pressure on all sides to not expose this, if it's true, is enormous.

02:03:23.780 But here's where Donald Trump won the election.

02:03:27.820 He convinced us he's not part of that.

02:03:30.920 And I don't believe he is.

02:03:32.400 Right.

02:03:34.320 We're to support him if you thought he was a child molester.

02:03:38.620 No, not even a child molester.

02:03:40.440 Just not part of the buddy system where I'm going to protect my buddies.

02:03:44.100 Right.

02:03:44.360 On anything.

02:03:45.440 Not even this particular case.

02:03:47.840 But I'm not going to play that game.

02:03:50.240 I work for you, the people.

02:03:52.900 And he said that many times.

02:03:54.740 Right.

02:03:55.120 Right.

02:03:55.420 And so that is that that's where the trust and I don't think it has reached him yet.

02:04:01.440 I don't think it has reached him.

02:04:02.960 I don't think anybody's blaming him.

02:04:04.800 Although, if you logically think things through and this is where the real problem comes in.

02:04:10.500 If you suddenly don't believe Dan Bongino and you don't believe Pam Bondi and you don't believe Kash Patel.

02:04:15.060 Well, where's Donald Trump?

02:04:18.100 Because they all work for him.

02:04:19.480 And that's the real problem with not believing, you know, because I don't I don't want to question that.

02:04:26.280 I don't want to go that far.

02:04:27.360 Do I believe Pam Bondi?

02:04:29.740 I'm more willing to say Pam Bondi is just a screw up.

02:04:34.740 Nothing nefarious.

02:04:35.900 She just really screwed this one up.

02:04:39.020 I'm willing to believe that one and it doesn't go any further.

02:04:44.400 But if no if nobody pays a price for Pam Bondi coming on television saying I got the black book right on my desk.

02:04:51.720 And then after that, you know what, there there there's nefarious things going on in the FBI office in New York and they are destroying the evidence and they won't allow us to get the evidence.

02:05:05.760 And then you didn't arrest anybody.

02:05:07.900 There was no.

02:05:08.780 Well, and, you know, maybe you got it wrong, but you should have said that wasn't happening.

02:05:13.020 I was misinformed.

02:05:14.740 What do you make of the criticism?

02:05:16.060 And this criticism only works if they really don't have this material on Jeffrey Epstein.

02:05:21.560 And there aren't thousands of videos and there aren't all these things.

02:05:24.400 So it only works under that scenario.

02:05:26.540 But I mean, what do you think?

02:05:27.660 What do you make of the criticism that, look, you know, part of Donald Trump's strategy was to hire good communicators in these roles.

02:05:36.320 And the way he's found a great job and he's done a good job in that, like these people know how to talk to the American people.

02:05:43.720 But one of the ways he knows that that they're good at it is because they had roles in media previously.

02:05:49.920 And a lot of them went on podcasts, did interviews, made big sweeping promises that maybe they didn't have the actual backing to the undercurrent of evidence to support.

02:06:05.020 Like maybe they were sort of directionally correct, but they were overpromising.

02:06:10.300 They were making big promises on podcasts.

02:06:12.400 And now that they're stuck in a position to have to back that up with real evidence, they're unable to do it.

02:06:18.480 Don't do, I'm not asking you to do me a favor here.

02:06:20.940 I'm asking you to tell the truth because you've worked with me for so long.

02:06:25.420 Let's say Donald Trump hired me to the role that Dan Bongino is playing because we did the same job.

02:06:33.440 And this is nothing about Dan Bongino.

02:06:36.040 This is about me.

02:06:37.060 And I'm in that situation.

02:06:40.200 And I'm exactly where Dan is, where he's like, he didn't kill himself.

02:06:44.700 He didn't kill himself.

02:06:46.460 What would I be doing right now in that role?

02:06:51.020 You would come out and say, gosh, we were wrong.

02:06:53.280 We made all these accusations before and we were wrong on all of them.

02:06:56.820 You would come out and admit it.

02:06:58.180 However, I would also argue that you're pretty unique in that world.

02:07:04.220 You are not the most, one of the things you're most known for, and I would argue maybe one of the reasons why your success has had a longevity to it that many others haven't, is because you're willing to do that type of stuff.

02:07:16.100 And you don't have any friends.

02:07:16.740 That's true.

02:07:17.300 But it's also your willingness to say, hey, gosh, I blew it on this one and come to the audience and be honest about that.

02:07:23.420 That is, as you know, not the most common thing in the industry.

02:07:27.080 Again, no, no, no accusation.

02:07:29.700 I'm not like commenting on any specific person.

02:07:32.600 Honestly, I think Dan has been on show after show after show saying much of this.

02:07:37.080 Yeah, I think Dan has kind of done that on some of this.

02:07:39.760 So, like, you know, he may be.

02:07:41.360 But again, like, if you're going, if you're still holding on after that, you know, you have to have a, I think you're right, have to have a problem with Dan Bungino.

02:07:49.620 You have to have a problem with Cash Fertella.

02:07:51.420 You have to have a problem with Pam Bondi.

02:07:52.880 And ultimately, if Donald Trump, you have to see how he reacts to this.

02:07:56.580 But if he says, actually, no, we do have the information and these guys are not giving it to you, you know, that would be a major thing.

02:08:04.000 If he's, if he's, Trump is saying, hey, like, I don't, I agree.

02:08:08.580 There's nothing here.

02:08:09.320 Then you have to apply that same criticism to him if you believe it.

02:08:11.980 All right, back in just a second.

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The Glenn Beck Program - July 07, 2025

Epstein Files DON’T EXIST？! Can MAGA Trust FBI & DOJ？｜ Guests： Rep. Chip Roy & Liz Wheeler ｜ 7⧸7⧸25 ｜ The Glenn Beck Program

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