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00:02:13.980 Well, nothing happened in the last 24 hours, did it?

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00:03:50.760 Now, I'm going to say something kind of controversial here about this feud between Trump and Elon Musk.

00:03:57.420 But I'm just going to throw it out here because I believe it's true.

00:04:01.740 This is the fault of one man, Stu Bergeer.

00:04:06.620 Stu has predicted this fallout seemingly, seemingly, you know, unknowing of what was going to happen.

00:04:15.640 Not involved at all, but nails it almost to the day.

00:04:21.040 He said these two would have a fallout.

00:04:23.980 Stu, you want to admit this now to the American people?

00:04:26.940 I don't think I caused anything.

00:04:29.580 It was just a wild guess, Glenn.

00:04:33.140 Wild guess.

00:04:34.620 Literally, almost to the day, Stu.

00:04:36.540 Yeah.

00:04:37.160 Almost to the day.

00:04:37.860 I was tracing it back.

00:04:39.220 We were in a group text and we did a...

00:04:43.220 I mean, it was right after the election.

00:04:44.660 It was like November 13th.

00:04:46.000 And we were just saying like, hey, we're really excited about this, you know, Musk-Trump partnership.

00:04:51.480 Think a lot could come out of it, but I'm a little nervous, you know, because of a couple

00:04:55.460 big egos and everything.

00:04:57.540 And so we decided to do a bet.

00:04:59.580 And we all decided to predict the day of the demise of the relationship, not excited about

00:05:06.060 it, but wondering.

00:05:08.240 And my pick was May 29th.

00:05:11.180 So within just a few days of the actual flare-up, if you will.

00:05:18.260 So you're saying you may have let it go a few extra days just so we couldn't...

00:05:24.940 We weren't positive you were the one.

00:05:28.520 Well, I mean, technically, it is basically when he left the White House, the actual...

00:05:34.860 It's incredible.

00:05:36.680 It's pretty amazing.

00:05:37.360 It's tough.

00:05:38.800 Yeah.

00:05:39.360 You know, it's just fundamentally at the core of this, Glenn, there's so much good that

00:05:43.820 could come out of this relationship, but man, you know, they're a couple of big personalities

00:05:48.860 and it's just a tough thing to keep balanced.

00:05:51.260 Yeah.

00:05:52.160 Yeah.

00:05:52.520 No, I mean, here's the deal.

00:05:53.420 They're both kings of their own castles, you know?

00:05:56.220 They're both disruptors.

00:05:58.580 They're both used to getting their way.

00:06:00.600 They're both very, very smart.

00:06:03.760 They, you know, they're both disruptors of everything.

00:06:08.020 And, you know, they're not really predictably friends at any given point.

00:06:16.260 But, I mean, you know, we have had these moments before in our history where great men come

00:06:24.380 together that shouldn't really come together.

00:06:27.620 For instance, John Adams and Jefferson, I'll tell you that story later.

00:06:30.140 They loved each other.

00:06:32.060 Then they hated each other.

00:06:35.100 Then they loved each other again at the end.

00:06:37.500 And, I mean, if you think yesterday was like, oh, yeah, well, let me tell you who's molesting

00:06:42.400 children.

00:06:43.640 You think that was bad.

00:06:45.520 You should have heard Jefferson and Adams.

00:06:47.520 They went at each other with, I mean, with giant knives.

00:06:51.700 What happened yesterday between Musk and Trump was child's play in comparison.

00:06:58.160 This was a bad day for us and America.

00:07:01.020 It really was.

00:07:02.280 The shareholders were panicking because Donald Trump later came in and said, you know, what

00:07:07.180 a way to cut the budget is we'll just cut all of the federal contracts.

00:07:11.120 Now, I'm sure he didn't mean that.

00:07:14.300 Maybe he did in the moment, but he's not going to do that.

00:07:17.220 We're a meritocracy.

00:07:19.300 Elon Musk is the best guy to have federal contracts when it comes to anything space related.

00:07:26.140 Okay.

00:07:26.400 SpaceX has billions in Pentagon and NASA funding now in the crosshairs.

00:07:34.040 Come on.

00:07:35.160 No, no.

00:07:37.000 Now, foreign leaders were watching all of this with popcorn.

00:07:40.980 China sees division.

00:07:42.360 The EU sees opportunity.

00:07:44.260 And everyday Americans were watching billionaires brawl where, you know, a rent is still climbing.

00:07:52.440 The irony here is, for all of the hatred, Trump and Musk are mirror images.

00:07:58.940 They're both outsiders.

00:08:00.080 They're both rule breakers.

00:08:01.840 Each thinks he alone can fix it.

00:08:04.260 Each courts chaos like a gambler itching just for that last bet, you know?

00:08:09.540 And in a strange way, maybe each is the only person who could truly destroy the other.

00:08:15.600 But it's not just a feud.

00:08:18.580 This is a fracture in the allegiance of disruption.

00:08:22.140 And the aftershocks are going to ripple through politics and tech and the economy for months if it doesn't end.

00:08:30.120 Hopefully, it is over.

00:08:33.380 They're supposed to have a phone call today.

00:08:35.340 Everybody got clearer heads.

00:08:37.360 But I'll tell you this.

00:08:38.200 When kings turn on each other, it's the court that burns first.

00:08:42.940 Then the kingdom.

00:08:44.680 It's not good.

00:08:46.600 And we need both of these guys.

00:08:49.700 So let me just pass a message on to everybody, all of us who are in the storm right now and to the men inside the storm.

00:09:00.480 There is a reason why the entire world watches what you two guys say.

00:09:06.680 Because you are, without question, the most disruptive, consequential individuals of our time.

00:09:14.620 Both of you.

00:09:16.840 And not because you're always right, but because history from time to time needs a battering ram.

00:09:25.700 And that battering ram showed up with a red tie.

00:09:29.160 And when the world needs a new frontier, the other one showed up in a t-shirt.

00:09:34.940 And then you guys came together.

00:09:37.800 Trump is a bulldozer.

00:09:40.100 I call him a human hand grenade.

00:09:41.500 To his face.

00:09:42.220 He's a human hand grenade.

00:09:43.120 He just throws himself into a room, goes off.

00:09:45.740 And then you're like, wait a minute.

00:09:46.980 As the dust clears, you're like, what's behind that wall?

00:09:50.000 I mean, it's amazing to watch him.

00:09:52.340 He is a bulldozer who just bulldozed and blew up the cartel of polite corruption.

00:10:02.360 And he did what no other politician could do.

00:10:05.400 He exposed the system.

00:10:06.740 He unmasked the media.

00:10:08.280 And he gave voice to everybody who feels like nobody's listening to me.

00:10:13.520 His strength is his will.

00:10:17.400 The guy does not blink.

00:10:19.560 He doesn't sleep.

00:10:21.000 He doesn't stop.

00:10:22.620 He doesn't yield.

00:10:23.860 When the world demanded a warrior, this guy shows up already armored, ready to go.

00:10:33.240 Musk is an unbelievable visionary who, you know, has escaped the current gravitational pull of, nah, it's good enough.

00:10:45.680 He defied all of the inertia of big tech, big auto, big government.

00:10:52.340 His strength, like the strength of the other, it's also vision.

00:10:57.080 And he'll see around corners.

00:10:59.100 Most of us don't even know that they exist.

00:11:02.260 So does Donald Trump.

00:11:03.660 Donald Trump has this gut on him that is unbelievable.

00:11:08.840 Musk has this vision of what things can be like in the future.

00:11:13.740 And Musk just won't sit down.

00:11:17.500 He won't give up.

00:11:18.700 And he builds all those things that everybody else is like, we should write a Star Trek episode about that technology.

00:11:26.580 And then he goes out and builds it.

00:11:29.740 And while others are betting on quarterly earnings, he bets the future.

00:11:35.840 He bets on the future of mankind.

00:11:38.440 Okay.

00:11:39.020 Now, they don't think the same.

00:11:40.560 They don't even speak the same language half the time.

00:11:44.000 But that's why they matter and are so good together.

00:11:48.400 And that's why they can't cancel each other out.

00:11:51.900 Stop it.

00:11:54.160 Trump is the best street fighter I've ever seen.

00:11:57.960 And both of them understand the short and the long game.

00:12:02.400 But Trump understands Washington and Elon doesn't.

00:12:06.480 I can't tell you that Trump fully understood Washington in the first term.

00:12:10.160 But he does now.

00:12:12.120 And I am against this big, beautiful bill, all of the spending.

00:12:16.040 However, as I told you three weeks ago, we are in this horrible trap right now.

00:12:22.320 You can't cut the amount of spending when state, federal, and local governments are responsible for 45% of our GDP.

00:12:33.040 If you kick the legs out from underneath that, everything plunges.

00:12:38.760 You have to do it slowly.

00:12:40.380 But beyond that, what Elon Musk doesn't understand is, and Trump didn't get this the first time, but he does this time.

00:12:50.860 There's political realities.

00:12:53.740 And you have to understand politics in Washington.

00:12:57.340 Why isn't Elon Musk, and I hate to point either of these guys out because I love both of them.

00:13:03.460 I want both of them involved.

00:13:05.660 But why, instead of coming after Donald Trump yesterday, why wasn't Elon Musk coming after the Democrats?

00:13:15.280 I mean, there's not one of them that are standing up for fiscal responsibility.

00:13:20.080 Not one.

00:13:20.720 If you could, if you could peel away 10 Democrats, you know, three in the Senate and 10 in the House that were standing with the diehard Republicans and saying, no, we want serious cuts, we'd be able to accomplish something.

00:13:38.260 Why are we cannibalizing ourselves instead of trying to get 10 reasonable people on the other side to join us with the cuts?

00:13:48.000 Why?

00:13:48.880 It doesn't make any sense.

00:13:50.720 Because both know how to use social media, unlike anybody else.

00:13:57.120 Both know how to rally support.

00:13:59.940 One is better as a battering ram.

00:14:02.620 The other one is better as a scalpel.

00:14:04.580 But sometimes you need both of those things.

00:14:08.060 And together, they represented something the system fears the most.

00:14:14.600 Creative destruction with a moral spine.

00:14:18.040 Oh, there is nothing.

00:14:21.800 Trust me on this.

00:14:23.900 I've seen it at small scales.

00:14:26.260 These guys are seeing it at the global scale.

00:14:29.740 Creative destruction with a moral spine is terrifying to those people with power.

00:14:36.860 And what brought them together wasn't friendship.

00:14:39.940 It was a purpose, a shared purpose.

00:14:43.020 Both of them loathe centralized power and centralized incompetence.

00:14:48.300 Both believe the individual still matters.

00:14:51.520 Both believe in freedom of speech.

00:14:54.160 Both believe in equality, not equity.

00:14:58.520 Both have a willingness to be hated for being right too early.

00:15:03.080 So now, what are we really arguing about, really?

00:15:09.640 Is this about pride?

00:15:12.400 Is this about I didn't get my way?

00:15:14.820 What is this?

00:15:16.220 Is this wounded trust?

00:15:18.920 I mean, I get it.

00:15:20.040 Both of these guys are used to being right.

00:15:22.100 They're both used to getting things done and not being told no.

00:15:29.940 That's what makes them so rare.

00:15:32.360 They don't orbit other people.

00:15:34.920 They make their own gravity.

00:15:36.760 Each of them do.

00:15:38.420 Which is why they're so important.

00:15:40.240 But if they forget the mission,

00:15:42.260 if they forget that we're standing at the edge of something far bigger than either one of them,

00:15:47.300 we lose more than just a feud between two really important guys.

00:15:54.480 I mean, I know I've talked to the president several times about, you know,

00:15:58.320 hey, this is bigger than me.

00:16:00.200 He has said that to me.

00:16:01.240 He knows we can't lose our edge.

00:16:03.920 We can't lose our chance.

00:16:05.020 We can't lose our window.

00:16:06.500 So if either of them or their allies are listening, please,

00:16:10.140 you were never meant to be best friends,

00:16:11.780 but you were both born for this moment.

00:16:14.380 And history is not going to ask whether you won the fight,

00:16:16.900 but whether you remembered who the real enemy was.

00:16:19.420 This is not a moment for choosing sides.

00:16:23.520 This is the moment for all of us to choose mission.

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00:17:56.620 It began politely enough.

00:17:59.360 Trump praised Space Force, calling it the moon's greatest ally.

00:18:04.340 Musk nodded and said he admired Trump's ability to monetize hats.

00:18:08.460 But then things turned.

00:18:10.480 Trump accused Elon of stealing Wi-Fi from Air Force One.

00:18:14.920 Musk replied, quote, at least my planes don't have golden seatbelts and ketchup stains.

00:18:20.020 Trump countered by calling him a Martian sociopath with fake kids and robot hair.

00:18:25.100 And then Elon Musk said, you sleep with children!

00:18:28.260 And that's how it escalated yesterday.

00:18:30.720 I mean, it's crazy.

00:18:32.680 I think my teleplay is even more impressive than yours.

00:18:36.380 It's fascinating how that escalated so quickly.

00:18:41.180 I mean, like, you'd think these two people would be able to go back and forth.

00:18:46.340 And, you know, if Trump doesn't like a bill, or Musk doesn't like a bill, Trump can say,

00:18:51.480 you're wrong.

00:18:52.260 But, hey, we're pretty much still on the same side of that.

00:18:54.720 And, man, it got out of control fast there, Glenn.

00:18:57.480 Yeah, and this bullcrap about Epstein, if you think the Democrats would have sat on anything,

00:19:06.820 anything in those Epstein files that had Donald Trump in it, come on.

00:19:12.120 Don't be a moron on any of that.

00:19:14.980 That is just not right.

00:19:16.160 Now, good news is, Bill Ackman got involved yesterday, and he said, you're much stronger

00:19:22.000 together than apart, and Elon Musk last night wrote back, you're not wrong.

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00:21:15.500 okay now let me let me tell you the real timeline of what happened yesterday no more space alien

00:21:33.400 talk no more no more uh no more uh you know joking about what really happened between the two of them

00:21:41.100 this has been building for a while but yesterday it just kind of got it just really kind of got crazy

00:21:47.860 um quickly so when you look at uh what happened let me see if i can find this here oh damn it i just

00:21:56.900 lose it again uh no here it is so in chronological order this is what uh happened because elon had

00:22:04.820 been calling to kill the big beautiful bill so first thing yesterday trump is responding to elon's

00:22:11.600 criticism here it is listen thank you mr president the criticism that i've seen and i'm sure you've

00:22:16.140 seen regarding elon musk and your big beautiful bill what's your reaction to that do you think it

00:22:21.360 in any way hurts passage in the senate which of course what is your seeking well look you know

00:22:26.780 i've always liked elon and it's always very surprised you saw the words he had for me the

00:22:31.800 words and he hasn't said anything about me that's bad i'd rather have him criticize me than the bill

00:22:36.940 because the bill is incredible it's the biggest cut in the history of our country we've never cut

00:22:43.300 uh it's about 1.6 trillion in cuts it's the biggest tax cut tax you would say uh people people's taxes

00:22:52.480 will go way down but it's the biggest tax cut in history it's uh we have we are doing things in

00:22:58.320 that bill that are unbelievable so russ volt by the way is going to be on with us here in about 30

00:23:05.280 minutes so that was the first thing and i think that's really mild i mean uh he's just responding

00:23:10.900 to elon's criticism said look i'd rather have him criticize me than the bill because we disagree on it

00:23:15.520 blah blah blah and then elon responds whatever keep the ev solar incentive uh cuts in the bill even

00:23:23.600 though no oil and gas subsidies are touched very unfair but ditch the mountain of disgusting pork

00:23:30.360 in the bill in the entire history of civilization there has never been legislation that was both big

00:23:36.820 and beautiful and everyone knows this either you get a big and ugly bill or a slim and beautiful bill

00:23:42.640 slim and beautiful is the way then elon re-upped a bunch of old trump tweets where he denounced

00:23:51.180 raising the debt limit and then he made a poll is it time to create a new political party in america

00:23:57.820 that actually represents 80 percent in the middle yes or no by this point now trump who was showing

00:24:04.980 tremendous restraint has to respond he writes elon was wearing thin i asked him to leave i took away

00:24:14.100 his ev mandate that forced everybody to buy electric cars that nobody else wanted he knew that for months

00:24:20.400 that i was going to do this and he just went crazy then uh he writes the easiest way to save money

00:24:27.320 in our budget billions and billions of dollars is to terminate elon's governmental subsidies and

00:24:32.620 contracts i was always surprised that biden didn't do it me too well elon responded by threatening

00:24:41.020 to decommission his spacex dragon spacecraft uh he says in light of president's statement about

00:24:48.620 cancellation of my government contract spacex spacex will be decommissioning its dragon spacecraft

00:24:54.980 immediately now this is this is crazy this is crazy um then elon after he lost a lot of people on this

00:25:07.180 he writes time to drop the really big bomb real donald trump is in the epstein files that is the real

00:25:14.920 reason they have not been made public have a nice day djt why would he do this why would he do this

00:25:23.560 elon says mark this post for the future because the truth will come out now trump again who i think was

00:25:31.960 pretty restrained all day compared to elon musk i don't mind elon turning against me but he should have done

00:25:39.920 so months ago this is one of the greatest bills ever presented to congress it's a record cut in

00:25:44.540 expenses 1.6 trillion dollars and the biggest tax cut ever given this if this bill doesn't pass there

00:25:50.800 will be a 68 tax increase things get far worse than that i didn't create this mess i am just trying

00:25:58.040 to fix it this puts our country on a path of greatness make america great again after that everybody

00:26:04.620 starts to calm down um a little bit do you happen to have the uh linda yaccarino and david sacks tweet

00:26:11.100 because they both kind of stand up for the big beautiful bill and saying uh it needs to pass

00:26:18.060 now yaccarino is what she's a ceo isn't she or is she the president of of i think ceo x ceo of x uh

00:26:27.840 and david sacks is a good friend of elon musk and they're both saying no no no we've got to pass the

00:26:33.280 big beautiful bill so then you have bill ackman uh stepping up now the white house said that they

00:26:43.220 were trying to schedule a call with elon sometime today to work this out which if you look at the

00:26:49.620 actual facts donald trump was more restrained than i think i've ever seen him would you agree with that

00:26:55.360 yeah he did not i certainly didn't go nuclear like elon musk did no um he no i mean he did address

00:27:03.780 it he did you know they he started getting a little more critical about elon but it was it seemed to be

00:27:09.400 ramping up slowly and all of a sudden uh someone dropped nine nuclear bombs uh onto the uh onto the

00:27:16.120 battlefield right um bill ackman writes i support real donald trump and elon musk and they should make

00:27:23.320 peace for the benefit of our great country we are much stronger together than apart elon writes uh

00:27:30.180 last night at 9 27 you're not wrong so hopefully this is over but look at the damage that this is done

00:27:40.540 this is given the the left all kinds of ammunition uh you know nothing but talking points elon musk is

00:27:50.880 never going to be re-embraced by the left i don't think he really cares about that but but he should

00:27:56.600 um care about you know we we need the guy to survive he's one of the greatest minds uh of of our day of

00:28:05.840 our lifetime he's probably the greatest scientific mind um as far as putting things into practical use

00:28:13.060 since tesla the first tesla you know the real tesla um and we have to have that guy but we also

00:28:22.680 have to have donald trump and we have to have a country now i i want them to cut more out of this

00:28:29.820 budget but let's not blow this damn thing up let's not blow everything up out of the water this is not

00:28:36.540 good what who does this chaos serve certainly not the country not the republic and not anybody who

00:28:44.840 is trying to navigate these crazy waters glenn can we talk for a second about the specific

00:28:50.120 allegation of of him being in the epstein files um yes because it's we've already known that by the

00:28:57.460 way yeah number one it's of course technically accurate that he's in there they were friends

00:29:02.480 if you if you're looking at everything that uh that like every flight on jeffrey epstein's plane

00:29:09.400 um you know donald trump flew on the plane now you know i don't think there's any evidence that he

00:29:13.460 went to the island certainly no evidence that he did anything illegal with jeffrey epstein they were

00:29:18.040 friends before these accusations came out so technically speaking elon musk is saying something

00:29:23.560 that has been well covered in the media already and uh might protect him from legal consequences

00:29:30.280 because of that tweet i mean if they if they really had a falling out i mean trump you know

00:29:35.840 trump sued cbs over their editing of the kamala harris interview being called a pedophile basically

00:29:41.640 on the internet would i'm sure merit a lawsuit if they really had a falling out but technically

00:29:47.380 speaking musk probably would survive that likely because of course trump is in there it's something

00:29:53.360 we've known about for a long time there's also by the way we should note probably dozens of other

00:29:57.920 completely innocent people that would be in those files doesn't mean that everybody that ever

00:30:04.120 interacted with this guy slept with children so musk was releasing these videos of him uh you know and

00:30:11.940 epstein uh and nobody denies that he was around epstein nobody denies that but what nobody cares to

00:30:20.360 recognize is that as soon as donald trump you know had an inkling of who this guy was really and

00:30:27.400 had some one of the women you know at his club abused by epstein he cut the friendship kicked him

00:30:34.520 out yeah and said we're done get out i mean you know he was the one guy that i know of the one guy

00:30:41.940 with moral spine around epstein right uh and yeah let's not forget that there's elon musk pictures

00:30:48.560 with uh maxwell so i mean is that even true it's a very small circle hard to know how many what's being

00:30:54.960 photoshopped in the i don't even know oh gosh are you kidding me is that really is i don't know i

00:30:59.600 just don't know i've seen i've seen photos of that but i have i honestly don't know mike gosh i always

00:31:04.300 assume they're fake until i know but who knows again everyone has pictures you know especially

00:31:09.680 famous people have pictures the famous rich people hang out at the same parties and so who knows then

00:31:14.400 that improves anything and honestly like if there was something here and you mentioned this earlier

00:31:19.180 glenn quickly that if there was something that donald trump there's evidence that he did something

00:31:25.260 wrong with jeffrey epstein i can assure you the biden administration would have found a way to

00:31:30.780 release that and it it even speaks poorly of musk in a way that if there was terrible evidence here

00:31:38.440 i mean was he going to just go along and not just he'll be quiet about trump's sexual abuse of

00:31:45.700 children if the cuts came through the spending bill the way he wanted them i mean all of it is

00:31:50.820 absurd we all know it's not real it's a couple guys throwing insults at each other in this particular

00:31:56.180 case trump much more restrained uh than than elon musk i would argue even though you know again i lots

00:32:02.900 of positives of elon musk but he's the one that really went nuclear here and i do hope that cooler

00:32:07.980 heads can prevail because it's good for the country glenn does because i know you've you've you know

00:32:14.560 really done your homework on elon musk and he has he has moments where he is not where he's more manic

00:32:23.880 is it possible that this is a manic episode with with elon i have you know no evidence not not uh

00:32:32.580 yeah i know you know i to be clear i'm not like accusing anybody of anything um but you know to look

00:32:37.780 at uh if you read you know like the the biography the isaacson biography about him yeah yeah yeah

00:32:43.360 there are periods through that time you know times where he's sleeping on the floor of the of the

00:32:49.080 factory um you know that type of period if you remember that period glenn where uh it does appear

00:32:57.300 that he goes into what you might call you know a manic state and and makes a lot of poor decisions

00:33:02.700 decisions that wind up really hurting the stock price uh you know tweeting out things that he

00:33:08.100 winds up getting sued for there are a lot of periods in elon's life where that type of stuff

00:33:13.380 seems to happen add on to that the you know the new york times and again take it for what it's worth

00:33:18.300 elon musk has a lot of enemies inside the white house that's something that you should know

00:33:23.280 and so uh we don't know where this came from but you know lots of uh accusations of drug use

00:33:29.520 and things of that nature as well when you say drug use it's really ketamine isn't it ketamine was

00:33:35.220 uh was one of the although it was more than just that i can look i can get the i can pull the article

00:33:39.720 up but one of the interesting notes in the article is um one of the ways the new york times claims that

00:33:47.540 they uh made this available to actually be reported and it wasn't just a rumor that somebody told them

00:33:53.820 was they had photographic evidence of these pills now gut how many times has someone uh that you know

00:34:02.200 taken pictures of your pill box or your pill bottles oh my gosh that happens all the time this

00:34:08.740 is not something that occurs to normal people that don't have enemies around them right somebody

00:34:13.900 correct my my speculation is somebody around him saw him taking pills took pictures of them and sent

00:34:20.120 them to the new york times um supposedly now the times is like oh his friends are concerned about

00:34:26.160 and that's their excuse i don't buy that at all uh you know but somebody has friends at that level

00:34:31.740 in washington dc nobody yeah especially that would be like you know what i'm concerned about elon i'm

00:34:37.640 gonna leak these photos of his pill box to the new york times like there's no friend of his who would do

00:34:43.560 that it's absurd no it's somebody who hated his guts or wanted to destroy him and wanted these bad

00:34:49.400 things to come out about him in my estimation so uh you know could that be true there could be some

00:34:55.280 truth to it i don't know uh could it be that he's in some manic period could it just be that he's

00:34:59.240 really frustrated and this is how he operates with everybody else and it's not that big a deal

00:35:03.640 most people shrug it off because it's just normal internet drama when you're doing it to the president

00:35:08.160 of the united states it takes on a totally different shape not good yeah um here's the thing uh just pray

00:35:13.120 for both men and pray for our republic this is not good for any of us we we need them both to get

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00:42:36.620 Hello America.

00:42:37.940 Boy, yesterday was just a wild, wild ride.

00:42:41.100 And I hate to see it.

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00:42:45.960 We need both of these guys.

00:42:47.800 But we also need the truth on the big, beautiful Bill.

00:42:51.240 You know, I believe that there hasn't been enough cutting in there.

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00:42:58.480 45% of our GDP is coming from local, state and federal spending.

00:43:05.100 We can't cut until we have the economy really roaring again.

00:43:09.480 We have to be very, very careful.

00:43:11.140 So what's the truth on the big, beautiful Bill?

00:43:14.020 Russell Vogt joins us here in just a second from the Office of Management and Budget.

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00:43:19.280 He'll give us the straight skinny on this here in just a second.

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00:44:40.660 Russ Vogt, how are you, sir?

00:44:43.120 I'm doing well.

00:44:44.040 Thanks for having me.

00:44:45.900 You bet.

00:44:46.420 It's great to have you on.

00:44:47.840 Yesterday was a tough day.

00:44:51.580 Do you know, has the president had his phone call yet?

00:44:53.980 Are they coming back together?

00:44:55.640 Well, I think the president made some comments to the press this morning that, you know, he's

00:45:03.240 not looking to have a phone call anytime soon.

00:45:06.800 But, you know, I think he expressed disappointment yesterday with regard to, you know, some of the

00:45:12.420 comments made by Elon.

00:45:13.440 But look, Glenn, we're moving forward.

00:45:16.260 And, you know, Elon's been an important ally and patriot throughout all of this.

00:45:20.480 And we've got a job to do.

00:45:22.660 And I think that's where we're most focused right now is making sure we can get the word

00:45:26.100 out on this bill, get it across the finish line, make improvements where we can, but get

00:45:31.880 this thing home for the American people.

00:45:33.340 So I agree with both the president and Elon Musk.

00:45:38.700 I know that there are things in this package that are really important.

00:45:41.880 And I know, you know, I think the president understands it and Elon doesn't understand that,

00:45:46.220 you know, politics are involved here.

00:45:49.260 And I don't know why Elon wasn't going after the Democrats and saying, why don't you care

00:45:53.820 some more?

00:45:54.240 Come on, come on, help us.

00:45:56.100 But the president is now putting in a rescission package.

00:45:59.920 What does that mean and what is that going to do to this bill?

00:46:04.060 Well, again, two things I would say, just going back to your kind of initial comment

00:46:08.420 there, I think that the argument that the fiscal challenges of the country are so bad

00:46:14.880 and we need to do as much as we can, I think there's alignment.

00:46:19.240 There is a total agreement.

00:46:20.520 I think the issue is how much, and this gets to your second part, how much this bill, this

00:46:26.040 is not a budget bill.

00:46:27.200 People get confused because they think it uses a budget process.

00:46:30.780 It is an agenda bill that uses a budget process.

00:46:35.240 It's not a budget resolution.

00:46:36.400 It doesn't give you a comprehensive fiscal picture.

00:46:39.260 It cannot, by law, include cuts to discretionary spending, which are all the doge permanent cuts.

00:46:47.280 Right?

00:46:47.500 So that is something that has to be considered elsewhere.

00:46:50.800 And we are in the process of doing that.

00:46:52.740 So we just sent up our first rescissions bill.

00:46:55.960 We will send up more.

00:46:57.660 This one is $9.4 billion.

00:46:59.320 Why is it so small?

00:47:00.480 It's small specifically because of the politics that you mentioned, which is that Congress hasn't

00:47:05.940 passed these bills.

00:47:07.600 And we can do a lot of things ourselves that we don't need Congress.

00:47:11.140 But procedurally, and this is where, you know, you have new people come into the party and

00:47:16.560 the coalition.

00:47:17.140 They don't know the procedures of government.

00:47:20.460 If we don't, if Congress doesn't pass a rescissions bill, we lose the ability to just not spend

00:47:25.580 the money and to use some of our tools that this president is now talking about that we

00:47:30.060 are polishing off that haven't been used since the 1970s to just not spend the money.

00:47:34.760 And so we have this whole side of effort on discretionary spending, making the doge cuts

00:47:40.960 permanent, a lot of different ways to do that.

00:47:43.120 We're in the process of doing that.

00:47:44.820 That is another piece of the puzzle fiscally that you would not get from this reconciliation

00:47:50.140 bill.

00:47:50.720 So why are, I mean, because Russ, I know you, I know you know this and I am, I'm an infant

00:48:00.380 compared to the way your understanding is.

00:48:02.440 So please help me understand.

00:48:04.220 But we are, we are up against the wall with a gun to our head when it comes to printing more

00:48:13.840 money or borrowing more money.

00:48:16.300 And we've got to cut this budget.

00:48:18.540 Can you explain to the audience why we're, uh, why, um, we have to be careful on this?

00:48:26.660 Uh, you, we can't just go in and maybe I've seen this wrong, but I, I don't think we can

00:48:31.640 go in and just, uh, and just take an, an ax to everything until we get the economy, uh,

00:48:39.840 to light the match in the economy.

00:48:41.820 Am I wrong on this?

00:48:43.760 I don't think you're wrong.

00:48:45.040 I think we can do both, but I think for people, I think it's why the big, uh, I think it's

00:48:47.820 why the bill is so important.

00:48:49.880 So you cannot have a conversation about reducing debt and deficits when the economy is not going

00:48:56.480 period, end of story.

00:48:57.640 It is vital foundation.

00:48:59.060 Does economic growth get you all of the way to where we need to go?

00:49:02.640 No, it does not.

00:49:03.520 But the notion that you're ever going to reform these big programs like, uh, that are welfare

00:49:08.640 and the social safety net without a growing economy, you can't impose a work requirement

00:49:12.960 when there are no jobs.

00:49:14.420 So this bill, and this is where our main thing that we're trying to correct factually, if you

00:49:20.040 adjust for CBO's artificial baseline that assumes tax relief will expire, they don't assume that

00:49:26.720 they assume spending is eternal.

00:49:28.860 So green new deal is, uh, and spending through that is assumed, uh, to continue or the appropriations

00:49:36.340 process, all the woke and weaponized bureaucracy, all of that.

00:49:39.420 But if you have tax components, all of those are presumed to sunset, right?

00:49:43.300 So that is, um, a fundamental, we've known this for decades, the way that DC screws, uh,

00:49:49.900 and miss and miss, uh, assesses our bills.

00:49:52.820 So you've got to pass this.

00:49:54.820 Otherwise we're going to have a recession.

00:49:56.480 That said, this bill actually cuts spending.

00:50:00.820 It has $1.7 trillion in savings, reduces the deficit by $1.4 trillion.

00:50:07.480 It is the biggest mandatory savings proposal in history.

00:50:12.300 In the 1997s, we were only talking with the work requirements and Bill Clinton and the Republican

00:50:17.600 Newt Gingrich house.

00:50:18.580 We were talking about $800 billion in savings.

00:50:21.900 Has the problem gotten worse?

00:50:23.460 Yes, it has.

00:50:24.140 But this is historic levels.

00:50:26.000 And that's not even talking about the, the doge cuts.

00:50:28.900 And so I think we can do all of them, but we've got to kind of figure, oh, what's this

00:50:34.680 bill doing?

00:50:35.340 What's the maximum that we can do it?

00:50:37.100 The art of the possible is a three seat majority in the house and the Senate.

00:50:40.500 We, we were willing to go further, but we also know the bill has to pass.

00:50:44.880 And the, the, the, those are small majorities.

00:50:48.140 This is not, you know, 20 seat majorities.

00:50:50.060 And that, that, that's a real political constraint that you reflected earlier, but I'm very bullish.

00:50:55.660 Glenn, I think at the end of this, this year, we, if this bill passes and the cuts are maintained

00:51:01.440 in it, we can end the year with a paradigm shift on mandatory spending and a paradigm

00:51:07.240 shift on discretionary.

00:51:08.740 We, we might have the first chance to actually cut non-defense spending by serious levels

00:51:15.000 through the ability to just not spend money or to send up rescissions that don't need a

00:51:20.900 congressional affirmative vote on through pocket rescissions that would dramatically change.

00:51:26.020 And here's the thing it would lead to results.

00:51:28.000 What has caused the problem that we have is fiscal futility.

00:51:31.280 Nothing can, we can only get any wins, let alone big wins.

00:51:34.260 This is giving us big wins.

00:51:35.900 And I think it's why we're going to be able to change the trajectory this year.

00:51:39.240 The arc, the argument against that is it's raising the debt ceiling by $4 trillion.

00:51:44.760 So why do you say we can raise the debt ceiling, add another $4 trillion in debt, and yet at

00:51:52.940 the end, have a big win by the end of the year?

00:51:55.400 What, what is in this bill that is not connecting here?

00:52:00.000 So any bill that you would have ever had, your Republican study committee budget, Rand Paul's

00:52:05.400 budget, whatever, no matter what bill you cut cap and balance from yesteryear, any of those

00:52:12.100 bills act over a 10 year period.

00:52:15.280 And so over that 10 year period, you're getting to these low balance levels, right?

00:52:19.960 In the immediate, you, all of them assume that in the short term debt limit, the debt is going

00:52:26.720 up while you make progress.

00:52:28.460 And so the debt limit, the debt ceiling is a warning sign.

00:52:32.580 It itself does not create debt.

00:52:35.360 Now it is something that historically has been used.

00:52:38.940 The president has views and we agree that like, we haven't gotten anything out of the

00:52:43.220 debt limit in 20, 30 years.

00:52:45.380 And so the notion that it should be done outside of reconciliation and Republican votes is a,

00:52:51.360 is something that we have been challenging as an administration.

00:52:54.100 It's just like, this is not serving our interest.

00:52:56.460 This bill extends the debt limit, but it does include what historic, if you, if you ever historically

00:53:02.900 got anything from the debt limit extension, it would be what is already in this bill.

00:53:07.160 And that's why we're so excited about this bill.

00:53:11.200 You know, I saw something from Goldman Sachs last week and they said, we are dangerously

00:53:16.200 close to not being able to sell our debt.

00:53:20.580 Um, and, and, and then having to finance ourselves and, and raise the, um, you know, the, um, you

00:53:29.680 know, the interest that we're having to pay.

00:53:31.940 Um, do you know of a, do you have any idea how close we are to that number before this

00:53:37.660 thing?

00:53:38.560 Because I think we're just really on the edge here.

00:53:40.860 Where, where is that number?

00:53:42.260 How close are we?

00:53:43.220 I don't think anyone really knows.

00:53:46.320 And I don't think that's, you can ever know.

00:53:48.420 And I think the fiscal storm clouds have been with us for a long time.

00:53:51.580 And we obviously see the extent to which the problem, no one is arguing back against that.

00:53:56.260 And no one's arguing that back to, you know, the critics of, of, of debt and deficit at

00:54:01.060 all.

00:54:01.840 Um, but I think what I would push back a little bit, and I'll add Moody's to the, the, the

00:54:06.840 list as well is that the meta point is true.

00:54:10.420 It's also one that you've been making for 20 years and we've, and, and, uh, the, the

00:54:15.380 conservative movement's been making this presence and making the, the, the point is true.

00:54:19.500 The timing of these analysis are, I think are, are for a purpose.

00:54:24.800 And so Moody's could have made that determination 15 years ago in the Obama administration.

00:54:29.580 They chose not to, they chose to do it right before house passage on an agenda bill, uh, that

00:54:35.540 has incredible importance to the American people.

00:54:37.760 And I think the president's getting Liz trust, uh, in that, in that vein and, and the notion

00:54:42.640 that Goldman Sachs doesn't have a sense about, uh, the way the baselines work and the watch

00:54:47.360 dogs is also not true.

00:54:48.880 And so I think what you have going on here is, um, the reality of our fiscal situation

00:54:55.540 and people continuing to rightfully educate on that.

00:54:58.280 But I think in the financial community, uh, or some of the, the watchdogs, um, there is

00:55:03.880 a, a timing aspect that is specifically designed to use the, the legitimate concerns to take

00:55:10.640 down a bill that is otherwise fantastic, uh, on the, on a dishonest basis.

00:55:15.100 And that's one of the reasons we're working so hard to get our message out.

00:55:19.060 I know your time is really tight.

00:55:20.700 Can you just tell me quickly, what are the things in it specifically that you say are

00:55:26.520 fantastic that maybe people don't know?

00:55:30.260 I think the biggest thing is the level of welfare reform that's in this bill.

00:55:33.780 Um, the Medicaid reforms, the work requirement in Medicaid, uh, to get people back into the

00:55:40.460 workforce, the food stamp reforms, uh, both tightening the work requirement and giving

00:55:45.860 states a share, uh, of, of the cost of that, of that program, um, $1.7 trillion in mandatory

00:55:53.400 savings.

00:55:54.120 And then the second aspect of it is you talked about the Doge, um, rescissions and the only

00:56:00.740 spending in this bill is spending that is specifically designed strategically that is

00:56:06.500 conservative.

00:56:07.200 And we would do like border security, right?

00:56:09.480 If that's an appropriations process, we're headed towards a shutdown.

00:56:13.520 It looks like the first term we can't actually have non-defense fight over cutting because

00:56:17.700 we're fighting for the wall.

00:56:19.280 This bill includes that type of spending so that it clears the field strategically for us

00:56:25.680 to have a massive fight on non-defense spending in the appropriations process.

00:56:30.460 We did talk very rarely about that dynamic, but I think it's one that your audience will

00:56:34.940 find very exciting.

00:56:38.380 Russ, I, I so appreciate the fact that you are, um, there with the president.

00:56:43.080 I, I, you know, the president has earned the right to get his, I mean, we're what, 120 days

00:56:48.380 or something into his first term.

00:56:50.460 Uh, I think he's earned the right to, uh, get his way.

00:56:53.760 I am worried about the debt and the deficit, but, uh, I do trust you and I, I give my support

00:56:59.540 to the president and, uh, I, I hope that we can get past yesterday and move to get things

00:57:06.200 moving in Washington, because I think if this doesn't pass, I haven't heard a better idea

00:57:11.740 from anybody.

00:57:12.340 I just heard no's, but I haven't heard a better idea.

00:57:14.780 We've got to get moving on this or we're in trouble, deeper, deeper trouble than we

00:57:19.340 are already in now.

00:57:20.620 So thank you, Russ.

00:57:22.360 Well said.

00:57:23.020 Thanks, Glenn.

00:57:23.520 Appreciate you.

00:57:25.120 You bet.

00:57:25.780 Russell Vogt, office of management and budget.

00:57:28.200 I have to tell you, this is a really, this is a really tough thing.

00:57:32.820 This is, you know, I, I don't like some of the things that are in this.

00:57:40.480 I don't like some of the things that are, are happening.

00:57:44.320 But as I just said, I haven't heard anybody address the issues in a way where they, where

00:57:51.660 we can get it done.

00:57:53.760 You know, it's one thing to stand here and say, I won't vote.

00:57:58.340 Well, okay.

00:57:59.780 But by not doing anything, by not moving, um, and by, by collapsing this, what do we have

00:58:09.180 instead?

00:58:09.640 We have more chaos and more trouble.

00:58:13.460 Uh, and I, I hate this.

00:58:16.000 I hate this, but I really, truly believe our back is up against the wall on this debt and

00:58:21.840 the deficit.

00:58:22.420 And if we don't, if we don't get these tax cuts passed, I wanted bigger tax cuts, but

00:58:30.760 I'll take these.

00:58:31.620 If we don't, that is going to dramatically affect, uh, our, our, our lifestyle.

00:58:38.260 And the world is in enough chaos.

00:58:41.020 Let's just pray that everybody does the right thing, whatever that is, Lord, let your will

00:58:45.300 be done.

00:58:46.120 Um, all right, let me, uh, stop, take a quick break.

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01:00:41.920 So where do you stand on this big, beautiful bill?

01:00:44.680 I agree with your analysis that the tax cuts are pretty much required.

01:00:51.080 I mean, you know, look, I would like a much more aggressive bill.

01:00:55.020 You know, the Republican study committee put together a budget that cuts $17 trillion in

01:01:00.960 10 years.

01:01:01.740 And this one cuts 1.7.

01:01:04.160 You know, the Republican study committee is not like some radical group.

01:01:07.260 Yeah.

01:01:08.520 I know.

01:01:08.920 But do you go back to what Carol said?

01:01:12.560 Remember what Carol said on our show long before Trump even started proposing budgets?

01:01:18.240 We have to be really careful.

01:01:20.320 We cut too much too fast before the economy starts to roar.

01:01:25.180 And you collapse everything because most, you know, about half of our spending is coming

01:01:30.400 from state, local, and federal spending.

01:01:33.320 Right.

01:01:33.840 And so, you know.

01:01:35.100 And I definitely take Carol's point.

01:01:37.400 She's smarter than I ever will be, of course.

01:01:39.860 Carol Roth we're talking about.

01:01:41.000 That being said, I do think that if you are pairing it, if you're just cutting, it would

01:01:47.380 be that sort of effect.

01:01:48.440 I think if you're pairing it with things that are incentivizing people in the economy, you

01:01:53.400 know, that's going to be, you're talking about more dramatic tax cuts than we get here

01:01:58.200 as well as what I would target.

01:01:59.880 Again, these are pie in the sky issues.

01:02:01.420 The problem with my plan here is if you do it, you will not get the amount of votes that

01:02:07.060 you need in the House.

01:02:08.520 So what-

01:02:09.140 Yeah, that's what President Trump keeps saying.

01:02:11.160 He's right.

01:02:11.780 The art of the possible.

01:02:13.220 The art of the possible.

01:02:14.300 Right.

01:02:14.640 This is what I've said a million times.

01:02:16.480 If you want a better bill, what you need to do is not win by four seats in the House.

01:02:21.400 Like, this is the problem.

01:02:22.960 Now, what I would argue here, and I think they're going to have problems getting this

01:02:26.880 bill through, and I understand Russ's working hard on it, and so many people are there.

01:02:30.540 I think what you, probably the end game here is to start trimming this down a little

01:02:36.040 bit.

01:02:37.020 There's two end games.

01:02:37.960 What I would prefer is trimming it down, taking out a lot of the stuff that we're complaining

01:02:41.640 about, probably downgrading some of the things that I like, and making it more of a focus

01:02:46.980 bill that doesn't try to make it big and beautiful.

01:02:49.300 The secondary option is Donald Trump comes in and punches everybody in the face, and they

01:02:52.880 do what he says.

01:02:53.600 And that's probably what's going to occur here.

01:02:56.440 And I hope he does.

01:02:57.840 I hope he does.

01:02:58.560 One way or another.

01:02:59.260 If we can't trim it, we've got to get it passed.

01:03:02.480 One way or another, it's got to pass.

01:03:05.740 All right.

01:03:06.220 Back in a minute.

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01:04:33.640 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

01:04:56.360 We're talking about the big, beautiful bill.

01:04:58.700 I just had Russ vote on.

01:05:00.200 Uh, can I, uh, uh, critique potentially the way you're talking about this bill a little

01:05:06.200 bit?

01:05:06.780 Is that, is that okay?

01:05:08.760 I'm open.

01:05:09.660 Yeah.

01:05:10.520 I, I just, and I don't think this is what you mean, but a couple of times you said things

01:05:15.300 like, look, the president deserves the right to do what he wants.

01:05:21.180 The president, uh, no, no, no.

01:05:24.000 You've said it like that.

01:05:25.180 I think you said it in the interview, pretty close to that.

01:05:27.300 He's, I said, he's earned the right for me to trust him.

01:05:33.600 And, and because there's no one else that is proposing something that has a real shot

01:05:38.800 that's better.

01:05:40.660 Uh, I'm, I'm with you.

01:05:43.160 I'm with you.

01:05:43.800 He's earned the right because he told us everything that he was going to do when everybody was voting

01:05:48.780 for him.

01:05:49.360 He told us these things.

01:05:50.940 Okay.

01:05:51.920 So I don't give him a blank check, but I do believe that I haven't heard anyone else propose

01:06:00.380 something that can pass that, uh, is better than this.

01:06:08.560 So I think those are two different pieces of analysis though, or two different, two different

01:06:14.260 structures to make that decision.

01:06:15.840 One is it's the pragmatic best you can do, right?

01:06:19.840 And that's your judgment.

01:06:21.960 Two is he's earned the right to make this decision as he wishes to make it.

01:06:26.480 And I'm, I, that doesn't mean you're, as I, you know, not a blank check.

01:06:28.660 In the first 120 days.

01:06:30.640 Yes.

01:06:31.320 See, I, I think, I don't think that's the right way to look at the presidency, right?

01:06:34.920 He does not, you know, again, I'm just, you know, I'm not saying that you're wrong on

01:06:38.940 that.

01:06:39.200 It's just the way I look at it is, you know, you, you have to be able, you should be able to

01:06:44.960 criticize.

01:06:45.300 Like, I think Thomas Massey's making points that are, are valid.

01:06:48.720 They're not, you might not agree with all of them.

01:06:51.400 Um, and he's going to be a no kind of, I think no matter what on this.

01:06:55.540 Um, but those points should be critiqued at the very least so we can make the bill better

01:07:00.840 and get to the best pragmatic solution.

01:07:03.780 Have you heard me critique Massey or Lee?

01:07:06.860 I agree with both of them.

01:07:08.360 Yeah.

01:07:08.960 I mean, I agree with what they're saying.

01:07:10.840 I really do.

01:07:11.720 Now, can you actually, they should be heard.

01:07:15.560 It should be argued.

01:07:16.440 And if you can sway people to cut even more and get this bill, this, uh, this bill passed,

01:07:22.860 then I'm all for it.

01:07:24.240 So I'm not, everybody has a right to speak their mind, but we don't run anything effectively,

01:07:30.680 especially when we're at this point in a presidential, uh, uh, period.

01:07:37.740 We don't, we don't get anything done by committee.

01:07:42.080 That's really, really good.

01:07:44.240 I'm not going to sit here and micromanage the president.

01:07:46.640 And this isn't micromanaging.

01:07:48.480 This is probably one of the most important things the president is doing is the economy.

01:07:53.120 But I agree with his general approach.

01:07:56.760 Um, I agree that we have got to cut spending.

01:08:01.640 I think we can cut a lot more than what we're cutting.

01:08:05.400 That's what Lee and Massey are saying.

01:08:09.100 Um, uh, and I think we should push as hard as we can, but I, I lean more towards Chip Roy,

01:08:15.040 get what you can and then let's, let's move because we can't lose the tax cuts and everything else.

01:08:23.400 Okay.

01:08:24.240 Um, this is not, this isn't the Patriot Act or, um, uh, you know, I'm, I'm not saying, well,

01:08:35.200 I don't know what to do.

01:08:36.220 I, I do know what to do, but I also know that if we don't pass this with the tax cuts, you

01:08:44.640 know, as, as Russ Vogt said, this is not an omnibus.

01:08:48.140 This is not the budget.

01:08:49.860 You can, you can continue to add rescissions.

01:08:53.000 You can cut after this and you can continue to go and go to Congress and ask them to continue

01:08:59.760 to cut and pass more things.

01:09:01.720 For instance, the doge cuts.

01:09:03.640 And I think those have to be done, but you've got to get the tax cuts done.

01:09:09.280 You have to, if we don't, the entire thing falls apart.

01:09:13.140 We will lose the economy if we don't get these tax cuts.

01:09:16.940 Yeah.

01:09:17.300 I mean, I, you agree with that?

01:09:18.860 Largely.

01:09:19.360 Yes.

01:09:19.820 Um, and I, I do think they're, and again, they're, they're not tax cuts.

01:09:23.480 I mean, they're just the freaking rates we're paying already, you know, to be clear.

01:09:27.460 I know.

01:09:27.740 But if they, if you don't get them, then it is a tax increase.

01:09:32.280 It would be an increase, right?

01:09:33.300 That's the way it should be viewed.

01:09:35.460 Yes.

01:09:35.820 Um, you know, we cannot have that increase.

01:09:38.100 The Patriot Act is an interesting example because you're at a point there where, look,

01:09:42.140 there are things in the Patriot Act that are very valuable and have protected the country.

01:09:47.460 That is true.

01:09:48.480 As an entire bill, it has been abused.

01:09:51.020 I mean, even the guy who wrote the bill has said it's been used in ways that he did not

01:09:55.340 design it, which is kind of a problem.

01:09:57.140 Oh, I know.

01:09:57.440 I know.

01:09:57.560 This is not like the founders where you have to guess at their intent.

01:10:00.080 The guy's still alive.

01:10:01.500 But whatever.

01:10:01.900 You get to that point where that's, you know, that's, this is how these things occur.

01:10:06.920 But that, what the issue, the issue with, you could argue the issue with the Patriot

01:10:13.300 Act was not every single thing in the Patriot Act.

01:10:15.820 The issue with the Patriot Act was it became a big, beautiful bill and included a lot of

01:10:20.320 things that shouldn't have been in there and wound up being abused.

01:10:23.860 And at the time, I think our, you know, the rescission thing by Vaught is a good, I know

01:10:28.960 he's a good guy.

01:10:29.520 I think they're, these, I think the people in Washington are trying to do the right thing

01:10:32.840 with this and they're doing everything they can.

01:10:34.240 But to be realistic about this, cuts that you can pass through the Senate and in the

01:10:40.140 House, through the rescissions process, would help this bill.

01:10:45.260 It would help the scoring of this bill.

01:10:47.020 Oh, I know that.

01:10:47.500 It would be something that would benefit the passage of it if you could get them through.

01:10:53.900 So saying that later on, we're going to get them through on their own is, it's something

01:11:00.780 to be a tad skeptical about, right?

01:11:03.540 I am very skeptical of this.

01:11:05.780 I am very skeptical.

01:11:07.100 I, I, you know, I don't think I have been in a more clear eyed, uh, place on where the

01:11:16.060 economy is and what has to happen than I am right now, even beyond, uh, oh eight, we are

01:11:22.800 in a much more dangerous place today than we were even in oh eight.

01:11:27.800 Um, and I am very clear eyed on that.

01:11:31.760 Um, but I also am, uh, I, I am, I am, I wish we could be perfect, but we also have to know

01:11:42.740 when it comes down to it, we have to pull the trigger on the possible.

01:11:47.880 I want perfect, but I've got to pull, I've got to have at least the possible.

01:11:54.540 Do you understand what I'm saying?

01:11:55.980 Totally.

01:11:56.180 So I'm not saying this is a big, beautiful bill.

01:11:58.400 I'm not saying this is perfect.

01:11:59.840 I'm not saying this isn't riddled with problems.

01:12:02.020 I'm saying it has really essential things in it that we can pass and we need to pass those

01:12:09.940 things before we lose those and then come back and try to get some more things.

01:12:16.520 I am, I am very clear eyed, probably more clear eyed on the, uh, on the deficit than I

01:12:23.740 think most people.

01:12:24.880 I've been talking about the debt and the deficit for forever.

01:12:28.500 And, you know, I, I was one of the first to say, we're going to lose our, uh, you know,

01:12:33.760 our, our credit rating and everything else I've, I've said for 25 years, they're intentionally

01:12:39.180 tubing the dollar.

01:12:40.380 I know these things, um, unlike, you know, we're in a situation now where remember the,

01:12:47.060 uh, not patron, TARP.

01:12:48.540 Remember when TARP came out?

01:12:50.120 I was, I was for TARP for two days.

01:12:52.560 And here's why.

01:12:53.560 I talked to people that were in that treasury meeting on that Sunday night.

01:12:59.680 Okay.

01:13:00.200 Before TARP was even known.

01:13:01.900 And I talked to a guy who was in that meeting and is one of the most, is one of the most

01:13:08.060 reasoned human beings.

01:13:10.300 I know very reasoned.

01:13:12.520 He is, you know, he's a, he's a CFO kind of guy.

01:13:16.440 And he was in those meetings and he called me.

01:13:19.900 He walked home, uh, that night from, uh, downtown, uh, New York to midtown Manhattan.

01:13:26.860 And, uh, he called me on the phone and he was crying.

01:13:30.740 You know who I'm talking about, don't you?

01:13:32.480 I don't reveal who it is.

01:13:33.840 But yes, of course.

01:13:34.800 Is he the kind of guy that cries?

01:13:36.320 No, no, no, not normal.

01:13:39.000 And he, he was crying and he said to me, Glenn, people have no idea what's about to happen.

01:13:45.080 If we don't pass this TARP, he's like, it's all going to come crashing down.

01:13:51.880 And he said, there's some bad things that I don't like the way it's being done, et cetera.

01:13:56.280 I don't trust the people involved, but he's like, no one has any idea.

01:13:59.720 The world is not prepared for what's about to happen.

01:14:03.940 And he said, I just don't know what to do.

01:14:06.660 And, um, I got on the air the next day and I talked about it and I said, look, you don't

01:14:12.320 have any idea.

01:14:13.120 I've been trying to warn this audience for a long time.

01:14:16.240 What's coming.

01:14:17.500 Um, but what they're going to try to do with TARP is a couple of things.

01:14:21.940 They're saying the banks are too big to fail.

01:14:25.000 Remember that they're too big to fail.

01:14:27.360 What does that mean?

01:14:28.360 That they have.

01:14:29.880 So if they go down the entire world and the network goes down and you could lose everything.

01:14:37.340 And then you're in a reset and nobody knows what that reset's going to be.

01:14:41.060 Okay.

01:14:41.900 So too big to fail, which implies that what you have to do is make them smaller, break

01:14:49.000 those banks up and go smaller banks.

01:14:52.220 So we, we distribute the, uh, risk over a large pool instead of a few small people.

01:14:59.980 Okay.

01:15:00.340 Or big people, a few small, um, uh, groups, um, you need to spread that risk out too big

01:15:07.300 to fail.

01:15:07.860 The other thing was we just need to buy time to do that.

01:15:14.400 Okay.

01:15:15.560 When I found out two days later, when I started listening to people and who were talking about

01:15:22.560 TARP, I realized they're not going to use that time to make these banks smaller.

01:15:28.320 They're going to use that time to make these banks bigger.

01:15:32.340 Okay.

01:15:32.940 That was their real agenda.

01:15:34.980 That's why two days later I said, forget everything I've said.

01:15:38.400 I thought we were dealing with honest people.

01:15:41.040 They are not being honest.

01:15:43.660 So while I could say, yes, we have to spend this money right now to be able to get out of

01:15:50.400 this situation because we can't have these banks fail on us.

01:15:54.140 But I realized that their intent was not what TARP was telling everybody it was for to make

01:16:02.460 sure we get through this and then stabilize.

01:16:04.460 They were just going to make everything bigger.

01:16:06.380 This particular bill is not that I haven't found the, the dangerous lies in it.

01:16:14.240 I have found the, I have found the things that, uh, are dangerous, but they're right there

01:16:21.540 out in the open, we're going to raise the debt up another $4 trillion.

01:16:26.100 That's dangerous.

01:16:27.480 Very, very dangerous.

01:16:29.280 Um, and there are people that are in Washington that are doing that intentionally because they

01:16:35.180 intentionally either don't think it's a problem, which it is, or they, uh, are, are waiting

01:16:41.460 for that great reset and the sooner, the better, what the president is saying is I need this

01:16:47.880 for tax cuts.

01:16:48.900 I need this for regulation and we can add rescissions later.

01:16:53.420 I still believe that he means we're going to, you know, add rescissions later that we are

01:17:00.180 going to try to cut the department of education, that we are going to try to do some big things.

01:17:05.640 You can't do them in this bill.

01:17:08.820 Now, if I thought the president was lying to us and saying, yeah, we're going to cut the

01:17:13.200 department of ed and he had no intention, like TARP had no intention.

01:17:18.200 I would be absolutely against it because it would say the whole thing is a lie, but I do believe

01:17:24.480 that Russell, we just talked to knows that we have to make all those cuts.

01:17:29.620 I do believe the president knows we have to make these cuts.

01:17:32.480 The president disagrees with me on debt.

01:17:36.440 He knows that it's a problem, but only if you're not growing the economy.

01:17:42.520 He believes we can grow our way out of this, but I know that Russell Boat and everybody else,

01:17:48.000 they know that you can't just grow your way.

01:17:51.040 He just said it to us.

01:17:52.080 You can't grow your way out of this debt.

01:17:54.620 You have to do both grow and cut at the same time.

01:17:59.180 So when I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, it's because I do believe the president

01:18:05.660 is a very good businessman.

01:18:07.900 I do believe he is good at negotiation.

01:18:11.480 He's probably the best at negotiation, but he also pushes people to the wall to get the

01:18:18.160 best deal for him, for America, for whatever he's negotiating for.

01:18:22.200 He gets the best deal, but that doesn't mean he gets everything.

01:18:27.180 He gets the best deal he can.

01:18:31.600 And so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because I think his goals are in line with

01:18:35.480 mine, even though we may see how to get there a little differently.

01:18:39.180 His goals are the same as mine.

01:18:41.600 The people around him have the same kind of goals that I have, and we speak the same kind

01:18:47.640 of language and understand things where the president and I may be a little different

01:18:51.000 on a couple of things.

01:18:52.000 The people around him are more in my camp, I think, and they are counseling him on things

01:18:59.180 and are a part of it.

01:19:00.660 And I want to give them every tool we can possibly give them if we don't.

01:19:05.880 And again, here's the thing on TARP.

01:19:08.340 When I said on Tuesday, you know, that after it was actually Wednesday, when I changed my

01:19:14.260 mind on TARP, I said on Monday and Tuesday, I'm for it.

01:19:17.360 On Wednesday, I came back and I said, they're lying to you.

01:19:19.960 Don't listen to them.

01:19:21.560 What I also said was, but understand that if it doesn't pass, it will mean complete chaos

01:19:29.800 financially worldwide.

01:19:32.040 What nobody's saying to you now is, if this doesn't pass, it won't happen as quickly as

01:19:39.560 TARP, but if this doesn't pass, if we continue to spend and we have a massive tax increase

01:19:48.240 and the president can't get his power into Congress and have Congress help get out of this

01:19:57.420 situation, we have chaos just like we were going to have if TARP didn't pass.

01:20:04.220 And that's what needs to be said.

01:20:06.800 The consequences of not passing this are astronomical, astronomical.

01:20:13.420 And you'll feel it in about a year from now.

01:20:15.480 You'll feel it the minute those tax cuts are not permanent.

01:20:20.560 That's when we really start to fall apart.

01:20:23.000 Okay, back in just a second.

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01:25:12.160 Hello, America.

01:25:13.440 You know, we were just talking about the big, beautiful bill, and Elon Musk and Donald Trump.

01:25:19.220 We'll have more on that coming up in just a second.

01:25:20.780 But, you know, I was telling Stu that we cannot dismiss the possible by searching for the perfect.

01:25:31.100 We can strive to make it better, and we need to.

01:25:34.700 But let's not throw out the good things by not passing this.

01:25:38.580 Because if we get tax cuts, if they, you know, and I don't even count these as tax cuts, really.

01:25:44.320 If we make the tax cuts that we're all experiencing permanent, great.

01:25:49.020 If we don't, that raising of taxes next year will kill this economy.

01:25:55.220 And we'll be in much, much bigger trouble than we already are in.

01:25:59.960 But there are some things that we can move towards.

01:26:03.500 For instance, you know, I want the rescissions.

01:26:05.880 I want the cutting of the budget in this.

01:26:10.820 You know, and this bill does move forward on Medicare, on getting rid of some of that horrible waste,

01:26:17.860 and cutting some of those things down, and returning people to work, etc., etc.

01:26:21.880 So that's taking a step toward the perfect.

01:26:24.760 Because the perfect for me is getting rid of welfare and returning it to the people and to the states wherever we can.

01:26:31.240 You know, health care, getting government out of health care.

01:26:33.980 And that includes the VA.

01:26:35.860 You know, I'd love to see the VA completely privatized.

01:26:40.120 Is that even possible?

01:26:42.400 Doug Collins is with us.

01:26:43.980 He is the U.S. Secretary of Veterans Affairs.

01:26:46.160 First, can we privatize the VA?

01:26:49.860 What's being done with the VA?

01:26:52.500 We've talked to Doug Collins in 60 seconds.

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01:28:23.200 Doug Collins is joining us now.

01:28:25.760 U.S. Secretary of Veterans Affairs.

01:28:27.440 Doug, how are you, sir?

01:28:29.600 I'm good, Glenn.

01:28:30.160 How about you?

01:28:31.880 Really good.

01:28:32.760 I can't thank you enough for everything that you guys are doing at the VA.

01:28:37.180 I mean, I just think there are so many of our veterans that have been treated so miserably.

01:28:46.100 They're killing themselves like they've never done before.

01:28:50.640 I mean, I know that you heard some of the things that we've talked about here where, you know,

01:28:57.020 people are just killing themselves trying to, you know, trying to make a point that we got it.

01:29:02.940 The VA is in dire need of transformation.

01:29:07.620 So thank you for caring and thank you for doing everything that you are doing to transform it.

01:29:12.280 I appreciate it.

01:29:13.180 I appreciate it.

01:29:13.780 It's a lot.

01:29:16.320 Can we get out of this at all?

01:29:18.500 I mean, is there, how can we get and privatize as much of this as we can?

01:29:23.740 Well, I think the issue of privatization is probably not the answer in this.

01:29:29.180 I think what we have is we have the tools that President Trump and I, frankly, I'd worked on when I was in Congress back a few years ago

01:29:36.800 was actually beginning to make this system much more less about the VA and more about the veteran.

01:29:42.540 And that is getting the care out of the centralization services all the time of all everything having to do with, you know,

01:29:49.960 coming to our hospital, coming to our clinic, but using our community doctors and others.

01:29:53.940 One of the big issues is always brought up with privatization.

01:29:56.600 And, you know, it's a valid discussion.

01:29:58.140 It's something to talk about.

01:29:58.920 It's not something we're looking at, mainly because the thing that gets separated so much from the VA is that the VA is just like has the other issues

01:30:06.880 and same issues as the private and the public hospitals.

01:30:09.560 And that's in recruitment, doctors, a lot of other things, you know, that's going on.

01:30:13.360 But then the specialty nature of a lot of what we do with them.

01:30:16.240 So the big thing we can do is, one, I think we can streamline this issue.

01:30:20.820 We can save money.

01:30:21.880 That's what we're looking to do.

01:30:22.800 We're cutting, you know, literally hundreds of millions of dollars out of bad contracts, bad stuff.

01:30:27.700 But at the same point, getting the veterans, especially those that you just talked about a minute ago,

01:30:32.140 which are on my heart, that are coming to a system that is not listening to their needs

01:30:37.460 and then in turn believing that there's nowhere else to turn for them, and many of them are taking their own life.

01:30:43.660 And that's just something that's not going to be acceptable in anything.

01:30:48.180 But we're finally asking the right questions and putting the, you know, the community and our private doctors,

01:30:53.820 our public doctors, and our VA doctors to help get these veterans the help they need.

01:30:58.740 Okay.

01:30:59.180 So let's talk about a couple of things that you are doing.

01:31:01.160 You know, you had a massive backlog of cases, and you've brought that backlog down over 25% in 100 days.

01:31:13.920 What did you do, and what does it mean to the veteran?

01:31:18.160 Well, what it meant is several things.

01:31:20.140 What we did was just leadership.

01:31:22.000 Then what gets measured gets done.

01:31:23.600 Okay.

01:31:23.860 I think there's an accountability factor that we have, and I brought to us now an accountability factor

01:31:29.460 that says you're either going to do your job or you're not going to work for us.

01:31:32.620 And so 260,000 backlogs.

01:31:35.340 Let me explain what that means.

01:31:36.480 That's the 260,000 cases of people asking or applying for benefits through disability benefits

01:31:43.720 that went over 125 days.

01:31:46.660 Okay.

01:31:46.880 It should never have been there.

01:31:48.160 Some are growing longer.

01:31:49.380 260,000.

01:31:50.680 We've cut that to under 200,000, as you said, within 100 days.

01:31:54.260 We've also begun, because that is now freeing up work, we're now actually processing more.

01:31:59.900 If you remember the dreaded scenarios that all the mainstream media, the New York Times and the Post

01:32:04.820 and all the unions were saying, if you brought people back to work, it would be terrible and be awful.

01:32:10.160 We've actually are processing more claims per day right now than we ever have in our history.

01:32:15.160 We're actually processing more than we're getting in for the first time in a long time.

01:32:19.520 What it took was simply saying, guys, you're going to do this.

01:32:22.220 It's not a choice anymore.

01:32:23.840 When I inherited a department in which, however you feel like you, it feels good, do it.

01:32:29.620 You know, they were, everybody just sort of operating on their own time zone.

01:32:32.460 And I said, we're not going to do that anymore.

01:32:33.860 The VA is going to actually be about the veterans.

01:32:36.140 So that's how we've done it.

01:32:37.180 And it makes the difference in that now that a veteran is not calling their congressman,

01:32:40.440 they're not calling everybody else.

01:32:41.660 They're getting what they've earned.

01:32:43.280 And we're fulfilling that promise.

01:32:46.360 So help me out on this.

01:32:48.200 You know, we reached out to you and your team after I interviewed a dad from San Antonio last month,

01:32:53.700 whose son, Mark, took his own life in April right in front of the VA hospital

01:32:58.200 because he believed he didn't receive adequate care for pain,

01:33:02.460 that he was having mental health issues, et cetera, et cetera.

01:33:05.360 Speak to the dad who feels like the VA has failed his son

01:33:09.420 and what you're trying to do to make this right.

01:33:14.980 I will, just as I did one night.

01:33:16.920 I actually was on with him.

01:33:18.140 And this shows you a difference.

01:33:19.480 I go on any area I can to say, look, when we're doing it wrong

01:33:23.100 or we're doing it an issue that we need to at least address.

01:33:26.360 And in this situation, I think it's something we need to address,

01:33:29.040 and I did this with him before, is my heart hurts.

01:33:32.840 And I think it shows the problem that we have in our system that has drugged itself

01:33:39.440 into a point in which we have just sort of handled the mental health crisis,

01:33:44.120 we've handled the traumatic brain injury, the PTS issue,

01:33:48.640 in such a way that we've just sort of said this is sort of the lined up way we do it.

01:33:53.600 And yet I've got the – I'm telling our doctors,

01:33:57.920 I'm telling our folks that we partner with, nonprofits and others,

01:34:00.760 saying we've got to try something different here because we're not moving the needle.

01:34:04.180 Since 2008, the suicide number has not changed in this country.

01:34:09.000 And yet we're spending $588 million or more every year to, quote, prevent it.

01:34:14.060 But yet in our services, we're still treating it many times with medicine.

01:34:18.400 We're still treating it in times we've got to do a better job of getting more counseling in there.

01:34:23.400 We're getting more clinicals.

01:34:24.480 But also something that I've took from – and we've been looking at from many of our veteran groups

01:34:31.280 and others, including folks that you've been dealing with, but Bobby Kennedy as well at HHS,

01:34:36.280 is we're looking at alternative medicines.

01:34:37.880 We're looking at hyperbaric chambers.

01:34:39.740 We're looking at possible use of psychedelics along with counseling.

01:34:43.120 Anything we can to give them the help that they need so they don't feel like the VA is not listening to them

01:34:48.120 or they're getting just handed a bottle of pills, and that's something that we don't need to be looking at.

01:34:54.140 They need to be getting help and not just a medical condition.

01:34:58.660 I mean, it's interesting to me that the Germans handed a lot of their soldiers bottles of pills

01:35:03.800 so they could just fight and fight and fight and fight and become animals.

01:35:07.960 And we train our people differently or humanely, but we train our people to be able to go in

01:35:14.880 and pull the trigger when they have to.

01:35:17.320 But is it fair to say we spend all that money doing that, but when they come home,

01:35:22.180 we don't spend enough money and enough time to try to deprogram that,

01:35:27.660 to bring them back into our society and how to deal with all of the stuff that they were trained to do?

01:35:35.180 Is that fair?

01:35:36.620 Yeah, I think it's a fair assumption.

01:35:38.260 And I think it's also the changing face of warfare.

01:35:40.800 And in a quick just moment here, I mean, in World War II, I had –

01:35:43.880 you know, I've had World War II friends.

01:35:46.160 They went with only two things in mind.

01:35:48.120 They were either going to win or come home dead.

01:35:50.560 They had no time frame to come home.

01:35:52.380 They were just going.

01:35:53.500 As war has progressed, and now up until the last two –

01:35:56.180 you can bring that all up way up in the last 20 years, the GWAC generation.

01:36:00.580 Less than one – about a one-and-a-half percent of the population have participated in foreign soil in this battle,

01:36:07.660 but yet we've done it over and over and over again.

01:36:09.600 And so what we're having is these folks who are in four to six to eight years who have all of this stuff built up.

01:36:16.260 We sort of broke them down to become the soldier, marine, airman, sailor that we needed, but the machine.

01:36:24.880 And then they come back out, and then when they're going so much, they never have time to process.

01:36:30.000 And for some of them who get out within four to six to eight years, this is something that's not enough time to get in the system to say, here's how I cope.

01:36:38.900 And so you've hit it exactly in the sense that we're not spending the time in a transition.

01:36:44.320 This is why Secretary of Defense and I, on an unprecedented level,

01:36:48.260 this has not happened that we've found before where us as secretaries sat down and said, we've got a transition problem.

01:36:54.160 And so it's owned by DOD.

01:36:57.200 They do the transition of folks coming out, but yet if anything happens in it, I get blamed for it.

01:37:02.040 So I just told Pete, I said, we've got to fix this.

01:37:04.780 We've got to start working on this.

01:37:05.940 Maybe you may own it, but I'm getting blamed for it, and I'm not going to get blamed for something I can't do.

01:37:10.500 So right now we're working on getting that transition better so that we have a warm handoff,

01:37:16.300 especially for those who are hurting already, to come into our system and receive almost white-glove treatment

01:37:23.500 where they're coming in warm handoff so that we have a better chance of affecting change.

01:37:28.020 And here's another aspect.

01:37:29.580 I'm opening it back up to where we're going to partner with nonprofits.

01:37:33.080 We're going to partner with foundations.

01:37:34.600 We're going to partner with groups that are already doing good stuff.

01:37:38.720 And instead of us wasting money on things that we don't need to be on,

01:37:41.960 I'm going to use other groups that are already in this arena to, say, help us here and connect them with them.

01:37:50.700 Yeah, it always kills me when you have something like, for instance, in a different subject,

01:37:55.020 but you have something like AA.

01:37:56.760 That works.

01:37:57.780 That always works.

01:37:58.800 And then you find these people who are running these centers who are like,

01:38:02.380 well, we're going to change it, and we're going to do our own thing.

01:38:04.780 And it's like, no, but that works.

01:38:06.420 Why not just do that?

01:38:07.700 It's free.

01:38:08.720 Why not just do that?

01:38:09.800 Oh, it's amazing.

01:38:12.400 Glenn, you'd be amazed at what I see here, just red tape issues that we're already starting to fix.

01:38:17.960 And so we're taking out, we put best medical interest so that our doctors aren't having to go through a second opinion

01:38:23.980 or a third opinion to get somebody to the help that they need.

01:38:26.880 We're now actually going to be taking amputees who need, and I have the real experience with this,

01:38:31.660 my daughter's in a wheelchair, that we were making them go to their primary care,

01:38:36.160 to possibly an orthopedic, to a PT, to an OT before they could just get reset for a new chair.

01:38:40.920 I said, that's bull crap.

01:38:42.040 We're cutting that out so they get a better experience, and we give them the earned respect that they have.

01:38:48.720 You know, a lot of critics, Democrat lawmakers especially, look at the proposed 15% staff reduction that you are championing here,

01:39:02.320 and they're saying that's going to lead to a shortage of doctors and nurses.

01:39:06.220 How do you plan to protect the frontline health care services for veterans and cut 15% of staff?

01:39:14.120 Well, first off, it's 15% is a goal.

01:39:16.560 And that was coming from the president.

01:39:17.840 He said, well, look over all agencies, see what you can do.

01:39:20.660 And if you don't set a goal, nothing gets done, Glenn.

01:39:22.820 You know that.

01:39:23.860 Your listeners know that.

01:39:25.260 So this is a goal.

01:39:26.200 They said, okay, 15%, can you do that?

01:39:27.960 If you can, how do you do it?

01:39:29.300 But what we did, because we knew and the president knew this,

01:39:32.740 that the VA is really a unique organization in government.

01:39:35.980 We're the only truly everyday-facing department that we have dealing with this medical kind of issues we deal.

01:39:42.040 And so what we did early on was that we're not even going to put in jeopardy doctors, nurses,

01:39:46.680 which the Democrats and others are lying about, you know, being.

01:39:49.700 We've protected over 300,000 positions within our health care system and our disability rating system

01:39:57.400 that said, look, you're not even eligible, you know, to take an early retirement.

01:40:01.480 You're not eligible to do this because we're not going to cut the very things that we need.

01:40:06.200 But I've got literally thousands of other employees on duplicative HR processes, contracting processes,

01:40:13.920 you know, human resources processes.

01:40:16.440 I mean, I was amazed here, and I talked about that permissive attitude.

01:40:19.680 We were supposed to centralize our payroll several years ago.

01:40:23.320 Previous administration said, nah, if you want to do it differently.

01:40:25.600 I found out that we had over 60 locations doing their own payroll.

01:40:31.140 And that was hundreds of people at a lot bigger expense.

01:40:35.380 So this idea, look, here's what has come up.

01:40:37.520 When everybody's cracked about the VA, GAO has said it's for 10 years we've been high-risk list.

01:40:42.640 The Democrats, Republicans, everybody on the Hill, and I've said this in my hearings,

01:40:46.700 all of you, I can show you comments where you say you want efficiency, you want the VA to work better,

01:40:50.880 and yet the first moment I start saying, here's some change in eBay, then all of a sudden it's about the worker.

01:40:56.600 Well, I believe our VA workers are great folks.

01:40:59.160 Our VA workers, the VA is not a jobs program.

01:41:02.160 The VA is a service organization, and we're changing that mindset.

01:41:07.320 Have you thought of, I'm sure you have, but have you thought of doing things like in a private company,

01:41:13.080 you know, I like to incentivize people and say, hey, we are way over budget,

01:41:17.940 or we're trying to make this a better process one way or another, just tell us,

01:41:24.740 and then we'll give you, the employee, you know, a kickback or a bonus or whatever if that works and it came from you.

01:41:33.020 Have you thought about incentivizing the people to streamline and to save?

01:41:39.500 Yeah, we're looking at that.

01:41:41.880 I've been saying it everywhere I go.

01:41:43.580 I've been in 16 states, over 50 of our facilities, and I'm not even close to halfway yet.

01:41:48.340 And everywhere I go, that's exactly what I'm telling them.

01:41:51.780 You know, unfortunately, unlike private enterprise, I'm bound to how I can offer incentives and stuff for that.

01:41:58.840 But what we're also offering is saying, hey, how can we make this better?

01:42:02.440 I found that you empower American workers, Glenn.

01:42:05.680 You empower our people to do good.

01:42:08.140 They're going to do good.

01:42:09.100 When you believe in them like I believe in them and say, I want you to go be the best that you can be.

01:42:14.100 And if you see something stupid, you let us know and we'll fix it.

01:42:17.420 They're going to go out and do things.

01:42:18.700 And also, here's the other alternative.

01:42:20.440 Also, good people will not work where bad people are tolerated.

01:42:23.540 And we're making it very much of an emphasis to get rid of bad people who are not wanting to do good things.

01:42:28.500 It used to be a culture of failure up here or failure sideways.

01:42:32.500 If you fail, we just put you up in somewhere on the top.

01:42:35.540 That stopped the minute I came in.

01:42:37.600 And we're getting rid of people who can't do the job.

01:42:41.560 Doug, I really appreciate it.

01:42:43.240 I love the fact that, you know, you're a servant of the Lord.

01:42:46.640 And, you know, and you're so I know your priorities are right.

01:42:49.860 And that's on people.

01:42:51.020 So thank you for what you're doing.

01:42:52.600 We appreciate it.

01:42:53.500 I appreciate it.

01:42:53.840 It's always good to talk.

01:42:54.540 Anything you need to let me know, OK?

01:42:56.680 You got it.

01:42:57.180 Thanks, Doug Collins, U.S. Secretary of Veterans Affairs.

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01:44:26.920 So, you know, we haven't had a chance to talk about this.

01:44:41.200 Last hour, we had a guest on, Russ Vogt, and he was he told me something that I hadn't heard and we haven't had a chance to talk about it.

01:44:49.200 He said that the president said this morning that he wasn't planning on having any phone call anytime soon with Elon Musk.

01:44:55.800 Had you heard that before?

01:44:56.840 Or was this another Internet rumor yesterday that I bought into last night?

01:45:02.400 So when he mentioned those comments, I did look them up.

01:45:06.360 And it does appear he was on a show this morning and gave a pretty, you know, cold, I would say cold comment about Elon.

01:45:14.940 I wish him well, but, you know, we're not going to be talking anytime soon, I believe.

01:45:20.320 I can have a quote here somewhere.

01:45:22.380 Oh, here it is.

01:45:22.900 That's too bad.

01:45:23.440 But as long as they stop shooting each other.

01:45:25.240 Yeah.

01:45:25.560 I'm not even thinking about Elon.

01:45:27.200 He's got a problem.

01:45:28.240 Poor guy's got a problem.

01:45:29.460 I won't be speaking to him for a while.

01:45:31.140 But, of course, I wish him well.

01:45:33.820 Oh, that's good.

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01:45:36.840 For Donald Trump, that's really tempered.

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01:47:04.340 Well, welcome to the program.

01:47:32.500 Let me just, you know, it's, you know, it's Friday, so let's get to the real news.

01:47:37.700 I mean, we've talked about Elon Musk and the big, beautiful Bill and Donald Trump and, you know, veterans and everything else.

01:47:46.040 Can we get to the real news?

01:47:48.280 Stu's been trying to keep it away from you all day, but I'm sorry, but I'm just going to buck the producer.

01:47:54.360 During a House Appropriations Committee hearing yesterday, Congresswoman Madeline Dean challenged Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick on the impact of President Donald Trump's 10% tariff on bananas.

01:48:12.100 Now, I personally like bananas.

01:48:15.540 I don't like to see the price of anything go up, but I really, really don't like it when it's bananas.

01:48:20.880 I mean, you want to do that to avocados.

01:48:22.600 I'm good.

01:48:23.380 I'm good.

01:48:23.880 Oh, yeah.

01:48:24.260 25% on avocados.

01:48:26.320 A thousand percent.

01:48:27.100 Yeah, they could be.

01:48:27.860 Yeah, absolutely.

01:48:29.800 Tariff on bananas.

01:48:30.880 She said, what's the tariff on bananas?

01:48:34.980 Americans love bananas.

01:48:36.460 We buy billions of bananas a year, and when I thought, here's a Democrat talking about bananas, they'd know, you know, about bananas because they're all bananas, but I digress.

01:48:50.480 And she said, you know, we buy billions of a year, and Lutnick said, okay, there's no uncertainty about our tariffs.

01:48:58.040 If you build in America and produce your product in America, there will be no tariff.

01:49:02.440 And Dean cut him off and said, quote, we cannot build bananas in America.

01:49:11.880 And while she's technically accurate there, probably not the best point to make, you know, that we can't build bananas.

01:49:22.880 Interesting clip in that this is one of the very few clips that's going viral on both the left and the right as if it's a dunk on the other side.

01:49:31.860 That doesn't happen that often.

01:49:36.220 No, it doesn't.

01:49:37.240 You cannot build bananas really at all.

01:49:38.960 I guess you could.

01:49:40.220 You could build a banana, but it would not be the typical edible type of banana.

01:49:44.940 No, you know what?

01:49:46.100 Let's not talk about that.

01:49:47.460 I don't know what you mean by that, Stu, but I don't even want to pursue it anymore.

01:49:50.600 I mean, you could also say that while there are people that, you know, aren't building bananas, give Bill Gates a few more, you know, years, and maybe he'll start to design and rebuild the banana for us.

01:50:04.520 Then there's this story.

01:50:07.060 Michelle Obama is going to release her latest book called The Look.

01:50:11.720 Now, we've all been waiting for this, but this is, quote, a vibrant exploration of her lifelong journey with fashion, hair, and beauty.

01:50:21.820 The look will feature over 200 photographs, many never before seen, tracing her style evolution from the early days in the public eye during Barack Obama's U.S. Senate campaign to her iconic tenure as the first black first lady and beyond.

01:50:42.880 The book is deeply personal and a reflection, addressing the intense scrutiny Michelle faced during her White House years.

01:50:53.060 Huh?

01:50:53.840 During our family's time in the White House, the way I looked was constantly being dissected.

01:51:01.240 Oh, my God.

01:51:02.000 What I wore, how my hair was styled.

01:51:05.040 Are you kidding me?

01:51:06.820 All I heard about was how beautiful she was, and her arms were so toned, and she was the beautiful, the most beautiful she-man in first lady history.

01:51:20.100 I mean, please give it a rest.

01:51:23.780 The look is her opportunity to reclaim that narrative.

01:51:27.360 Oh, stop.

01:51:28.040 Sharing her story in her own words, from her colorful sheath dresses and cardigans as the first lady, to the bold suits, the denim, and braids of her post-White House life.

01:51:40.200 The book highlights how she used fashion to convey confidence, identity, and authenticity.

01:51:46.940 Collaborating with her longtime stylist, Meredith Coop, makeup artist, Carl Ray, hairstylist, Yen Damtu, Johnny Wright, and Jire Radway, Michelle weaves in their voices, along with those of designers who crafted her memorable looks.

01:52:05.380 So, it's all about her, and how she did everything, and how authentic it was, but she's got this whole team of people who crafted all of the looks for her.

01:52:16.560 It's just that authentic.

01:52:19.200 You know, Glenn, this reminds me of a wager that we had years ago.

01:52:25.160 I should remind everyone in the audience that both of us lost the wager, which was me saying, hey.

01:52:32.360 No, she's a man.

01:52:33.760 No, no, no, it's not that wager.

01:52:34.840 Oh, a different wager.

01:52:35.680 Yeah, that one I'll win.

01:52:37.140 No, this is the one about whether she would run for president.

01:52:40.480 The bet was, I said, no, Joe Biden will hold the nomination, which I was incorrect on, and you said that, no, he will be replaced by Michelle Obama.

01:52:52.140 Part of my calculus on this particular wager, which was a typical defeat for both of us, just like this show is on a day-to-day basis,

01:53:00.540 it was a giant disappointment for both of us.

01:53:02.880 It was that she, I think she wants that life.

01:53:10.380 She wants the life you just described.

01:53:13.100 She wants people fawning over the way she looks.

01:53:16.300 She wants rich, elegant, basically a model, a celebrity.

01:53:22.480 That's that life that she wants.

01:53:27.740 I don't think she wants the life of what Barack had in those years.

01:53:32.140 She wants the Kennedy Onassis life, but post-presidency.

01:53:36.740 No, I think she wants the Jennifer Aniston, of course, that's probably a really bad name to bring up, but I think she wants the Jennifer Aniston life.

01:53:43.520 Apparently he does too.

01:53:46.980 But yes, I think that's what it is.

01:53:48.980 Well, it's an off-and-on relationship, if you know what I mean.

01:53:51.220 Off-and-on.

01:53:51.300 Anyway, go ahead.

01:53:51.880 I think that's really her desire.

01:53:56.700 She wants to be essentially like a movie star, Hollywood royalty in every incredible party that no one else can get into.

01:54:05.120 There is a certain power and certain access that you get in the political life to that.

01:54:09.800 But like, you know, Jill Biden was never getting it, right?

01:54:12.760 Like that's not what that is.

01:54:15.060 This is a different type of thing that she wants.

01:54:18.500 She wants to be above all that.

01:54:19.880 And so that's, I think this book describes it.

01:54:23.540 Like there's no way that the person who wants a book, like her husband was hit on issues when he was, he said the word arugula and people said, oh, you're too fancy for politics.

01:54:36.180 This is not someone who's worried about being too fancy.

01:54:41.420 Agree?

01:54:43.500 100%.

01:54:44.020 100% agree with you.

01:54:46.060 And, you know, the thing is, is she's, I mean, her show on, what is it, Netflix?

01:54:52.400 Which one picked it up?

01:54:53.600 I know Netflix gave it a big deal.

01:54:55.600 Yeah.

01:54:56.540 Yeah.

01:54:57.520 Disaster.

01:54:58.260 Again, another disaster.

01:55:00.380 You know, it couldn't happen to a nicer couple than the two of them where people are just starting to reject them because I think they're seeing them for who they really are.

01:55:10.600 It was kind of like, you know, the Clintons, you know, once the Clintons kind of lost power, they lost favor, where you don't see that usually on the right, you know, and, you know, generally speaking, do you think?

01:55:28.980 That's interesting, you know, because the Clintons are a great lesson for the life that she wants.

01:55:34.540 She jumps into politics again, and she's no longer this revered figure.

01:55:39.880 She's the politician that people are analyzing on a day-to-day basis, and she has to deal with all that, right?

01:55:44.220 Like, that's what happened with Hillary, right?

01:55:45.940 If Hillary had just gone into, you know, quiet elegance, whatever version of that she has, you know, I think she may have had at least some of this.

01:55:56.700 I don't know if she ever would have come to the level of Michelle Obama, who was always revered for her stupid arms or whatever, but, like, she would have had more of that.

01:56:04.740 The fact that she jumped in Secretary of State, Senate, presidential candidate, changed her just into this politician that everybody criticizes.

01:56:12.380 Like, you know, where Laura Bush never got that treatment, right?

01:56:15.820 Like, she doesn't, she was able to live a, you know, I think a very normal, like, upscale of revered existence in those circles.

01:56:25.740 And the same thing with Barbara Bush.

01:56:27.600 But the problem is, is that Michelle, I mean, she wants these, but you have to, I mean, you can be famous because you're the first lady, but that's not why Jackie O was so famous.

01:56:39.600 I mean, she was the first lady, but she had such style, such grace.

01:56:44.080 Yeah.

01:56:44.240 It was, it was more grace even than style.

01:56:47.480 Her style was important, but it was her grace under pressure.

01:56:51.600 Um, where I, except for Melania Trump, I can't think of a first lady that has had true grace under fire.

01:57:00.020 Can you, I mean, Nancy Reagan was pretty good.

01:57:04.120 Um, I think Barbara Bush was pretty good.

01:57:08.080 Um, you know, Laura Bush, pretty good, but there, there's the two icons.

01:57:12.980 I think it was not Michelle Obama.

01:57:16.500 It was truly Melania who was smeared and hammered every step of the way.

01:57:23.900 And then, um, uh, Jackie O, who, whose husband was killed right in front of her.

01:57:32.040 And she handled that with beauty and style and grace and kindness.

01:57:38.100 That's why they're legendary.

01:57:40.080 Yeah.

01:57:40.640 I mean, I, I think someday the world will recognize Melania Trump for how really remarkable she, she is as a human being.

01:57:49.020 Yeah.

01:57:49.120 Don't hold your breath on that one.

01:57:50.280 Um, at least, at least in the mainstream media, uh, but I will say the big air issue too.

01:57:55.460 And probably there's a reason why these similarities exist is the under fire part.

01:57:59.620 Thanks to several democratic donors, her husband's been dodging bullets on stage.

01:58:04.040 Um, so you need in a way, I mean, it was certainly, um, uh, the Reagans would have, uh, that, uh, claim as well.

01:58:11.520 Yes.

01:58:12.020 Unfortunately.

01:58:12.460 Um, and then, and I think like you get into a situation like that where you realize your family's life is at stake on a day-to-day basis for what you're doing in this job.

01:58:22.960 And if you can handle that situation, not with, I think what most people would have, probably I would, is, is a selfish defense mechanism.

01:58:30.480 Hey, get out of this.

01:58:32.160 I don't want you anywhere near this world again.

01:58:34.000 Certainly don't run again.

01:58:35.140 What are you talking about?

01:58:36.520 You know, someone, you know, if my wife was going through something like that, like I would be selfish and want to pull her out of that world in any way I could.

01:58:42.860 I'm sure that's an instinct in every first lady that has to go through something like this.

01:58:46.960 But Melania seemingly has held and handled it with credible grace and an impossible situation.

01:58:53.140 Uh, kind of like the grace that you see from Jasmine Crockett, who's also in the news.

01:58:57.580 Um, she is, uh, now she, yeah, I mean, if you've ever thought that she said stupid things before now, listen to this one.

01:59:06.360 Uh, she has accused now Republicans of scrutinizing the $2 billion grant from Biden, uh, going to the nonprofit for Stacey Abrams.

01:59:19.060 Remember she raised, I believe it was a hundred dollars.

01:59:21.520 It wasn't a thousand.

01:59:22.420 It was a hundred dollars.

01:59:23.180 It was less than, yeah, it might've been 200, but it was less than a thousand.

01:59:26.160 Okay.

01:59:26.720 Total.

01:59:27.140 All right.

01:59:27.320 So a couple hundred dollars total this, uh, this, uh, fundraiser and this, uh, organization, you know, organization.

01:59:36.360 Had raised total.

01:59:38.380 And all of a sudden she gets a $2 billion grant.

01:59:41.160 Now that should be questioned by anybody.

01:59:43.340 Okay.

01:59:43.740 I don't care who it is.

01:59:45.080 I don't care what side of the aisle you're on.

01:59:47.020 That should be questioned.

01:59:48.000 All right.

01:59:48.780 But, uh, Jasmine Crockett has said, the only reason why the Republicans are, are, uh, questioning is, is for the purpose of quote, keeping a strong black woman down.

02:00:02.140 Hmm.

02:00:02.660 Um, so, um, in other news that makes sense, you know, as much as you can't build bananas, James Carville, uh, came out this week and claimed that the reason the Jewish Democrats are leaving the party is not because of anti-Semitism.

02:00:18.900 Clearly James Carville knows what anti-Semitism really means because he says they're only leaving the party because they want tax cuts.

02:00:29.580 So if I may translate James, I think what he was saying was, you know, them Jews, they only care about money.

02:00:39.400 Hmm.

02:00:40.680 Hmm.

02:00:41.400 Wow.

02:00:41.860 Let me, let me, let me line him up for a leadership position at Harvard right now.

02:00:46.520 Walk right in.

02:00:49.720 Just crazy.

02:00:51.160 Unreal.

02:00:51.580 All right.

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02:04:52.860 There is a ex post that's coming around of a guy who is, his job is to identify deep fakes and fake photos for the news.

02:05:02.080 Yeah.

02:05:02.300 And he shows three satellite images on the destruction and the troop buildup in Russia.

02:05:08.100 Tell me about it.

02:05:08.580 And, you know, people are panicking.

02:05:09.760 They're like, look at this.

02:05:10.440 We've got photos.

02:05:11.280 You know, there's another one about Taiwan that's going around.

02:05:13.880 Is China about to invade Taiwan?

02:05:16.400 And the photos are all AI generated.

02:05:19.840 Now, there are very minuscule things you can pick up and tell, you know, some of these are fake and not real.

02:05:27.660 And that's good that that's still available.

02:05:29.580 I think those are going to start going away really, really soon.

02:05:31.880 You're not going to have that anymore.

02:05:33.400 So I don't know how they're going to tell.

02:05:34.920 But the reporter's position was basically we are not ready as a society to, especially an online society, to deal with all that is coming in this world where when you have a new development, something that is breaking, there's going to be evidence online that proves to you whatever you want to think is true.

02:05:58.800 You want to believe.

02:05:59.680 And it's going to look real.

02:06:01.200 And it's going to seem real.

02:06:03.820 And a lot of it's not going to be real.

02:06:06.140 And I don't know how we're going to deal with it.

02:06:07.840 We're already terrible with dealing with these stories.

02:06:10.580 I can't imagine what it's going to be like soon.

02:06:13.100 I know.

02:06:13.640 We're already.

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02:06:16.900 It's like a blur and looks like kind of a mayonnaise stain on a photograph, but it's Bigfoot.

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02:06:29.640 I mean, it's amazing, the world that we're entering, and it's coming fast.

02:06:33.500 Have a safe weekend.

02:06:35.940 Take the time.

02:06:37.260 Enjoy the weekend.

02:06:38.080 Enjoy the family.

02:06:39.420 And may God save the republic.

02:06:40.500 This is Glenn Beck.

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