Facebook's 'Fact-Check' Abuse | Guest: Harmeet Dhillon | 12⧸15⧸21
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In this episode of The Glenn & Scooby Doo Show, Glenn and Scooby-Doo are joined by special guest and friend of the show, Dr. Jeff Perla, to talk about the new holiday song, "It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Venezuela" and much, much more.
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of entertainment and enlightenment this is the glenn back program
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hello america and welcome to the glenn back program the most admired man list is out again
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oh i can't wait where did donald trump end where did joe biden end uh oh it's gonna be an exciting
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list as we reveal this to you coming up in just a second also um we had um health and human services
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come out and they've they've got a new song got a new song about the pandemic
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oh you're going to love it all that and so much more begins in 60 seconds
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stew you're a food scientist i am always been a food scientist you love snacks as much as i do
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correct uh you are the one actually your wife is the one that turned me on to built bar turned you on
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to built bar then my wife turned me on to built bar and my job is to turn everybody else on to built bar
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it is delicious my wife stew's wife does she eat is healthy and everything else oh yeah she's she's
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healthy which you know her endorsement of built bar is not necessarily important and it led well it's
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important so it starts out with her saying it's good and that is you know she eats healthy so what does
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that mean to us exactly thank you for that nothing nothing she recommends it to your wife who eats
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healthy what does that what does it mean nothing nothing it's not until your endorsement thank you
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that's the important you are a food scientist and you are not even as important no you're the
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fat man here you're the important one here look i know snacks okay i know candy i know candy bars
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i'm going on vacation next week and christmas is right around the corner
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i mean can we start we have um we have a new holiday song don't we yeah all right go ahead let's
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at dinner you'll need to bring your favorite seasoning for the roasted dog
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well there's a mountain of dead and the criminal threat it is such a socialist treat
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a band of marauders have captured our daughters and amputated my feet
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the reindeer have been murdered and the elves have all been beat
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oh the kids have frowns the tree is red and green it is splattered with blood and spleen
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and santa claus is not coming to town it's beginning to look a lot like Venezuela
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soon we'll lose our soul but the thing that will make us cry is the painful way we die
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oh well the temperature's higher from all of the fires and rampant is the disease
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there's some execution and much destitution and I am covered by fleas
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and have you ever noticed that the water smells like cheese
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you can click subscribe and share it with whoever you want for free
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we were at the maximum craziness of political correctness
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that song is now as written there politically incorrect
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so we can't even recognize our country from where it was absurd just a few years ago
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because this is a guy who looks to be about 60 years old
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tonight on my wednesday night special you don't
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want to miss it i don't think i've ever done have
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we done we had a bond before i i feel it was a very
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rise if you go back 2018 he's running for governor
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he's a congressman but like you know and we knew
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running for governor of florida he's the underdog
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caught with all sorts of weird drug and sex things
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going on andrew gillum who was the rising star at
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the time whose entire career blew up so the day
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before that election ron de santis looks like he's
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going to lose and not even be governor of florida
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is the most mentioned favorite for the republican
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nomination yeah if donald trump weren't i mean and
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i'm not saying that he is gonna run but i think he's
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gonna run yeah uh if if trump is not in it i think
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de santis will be the guy i mean as long as he just
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keeps doing what he's doing he's just so strong on every
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issue one after another after another he's done a good job
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he's done a great job and he got a lot of criticism when he
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was running um uh for reasons that i don't think
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connected with who he actually is he doesn't seem to be
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they tried to paint him as this like crazy like i don't know steve
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bannon running for governor you know what i mean like
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you know again like a lot of people you know steve bannon is who he is but
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like he's not a guy who you necessarily nominate to run for
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yeah in some ways i think he is you know some people
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you know he doesn't have a lot of those uh moments where he doesn't you know
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he's not he's not bashing mika brosinski for her face surgery
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correct like he doesn't have those moments correct but he likes fighting with the
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media a lot of the things that people like about trump
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he does pretty well and also he's done a good job running the state
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i think you know of course anyone looks good to what we have in the white house
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at this moment i mean he does like to troll i mean he
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he did do a vaccine press conference in brandon brandon in front of brandon
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motors yeah so you know he does have that side to
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only one that i've seen that can get away with it besides donald trump
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uh it's going to be a fascinating interview uh the full hour tonight
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the wednesday night special this is the uh last wednesday night special of the year
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it's going to be great you don't want to miss it
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tonight governor ron desantis 9 p.m eastern on blaze tv.com and blaze tv youtube
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it is fascinating to me how facts as ben shapiro says facts don't care about your opinions
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uh or your feelings well now we are we are taking feelings and opinions and elevating them
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over facts this is exactly what fact check organizations does according to facebook
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in a court of law john stossel is suing facebook facebook just responded you can't sue us for this
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because these are protected opinions wait a minute i thought we were talking about facts
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we have one of his attorneys on to explain this and explore this in 60 seconds
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the glenn back program allow me to introduce you to your friendly neighborhood cyber criminal
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right about now he's preparing to go on a christmas shopping spree giant flat screen tv
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check new playstation complete with every game that you could imagine and a few you can't
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you got it posters of 80s hit bands like flock of seagulls weirdly also yes here's the kicker
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he's going to use your money to buy all of that stuff because he was able to hack into your computer
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steal your identity and open himself a nice little account with everything you had saved up
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if he didn't hack into your computer somebody else has hacked in and he just assembled all of the parts
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by buying them on the dark web nobody can follow everything nobody can watch every purchase or
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uh every transaction it's just not possible but there is somebody who not only is the best in the
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nationally recognized civil rights lawyer uh named as uh one of the best lawyers under 40 in 2007
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uh she is the founder and chief executive officer for the center for american liberty we uh we welcome
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harmeet dylan to the program hi harmeet yes hi thanks for having me so um i i can't wrap my arms around
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this crazy facebook defense that their fact checks are protected opinions and so we can't push back on
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them while they say we're liars how's that work well i don't think it works um you know this we've
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seen this phenomenon now for several years i've seen it with various clients of my firm where
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they're respected journalists or writers and they put up material on twitter on facebook on instagram on
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other platforms youtube is another and you know these companies have been sued many times i've sued
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various of these companies many times on different theories and because of a law called communications
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the decency act section 230 these companies have basically been allowed a government protection
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from the type of defamation that you or i would be liable for if we said false things about people
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in other forums and so in this case as you know many of your viewers may know when you're reading an article
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and maybe an article you like and you go to share it uh or even without going to share it a a label pops up
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that warns you that you know this article that you're reading and you're about to share is
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false partly false you know fake news basically and then sometimes even getting into some details as to
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what's false about it that's what happened here with john stossel who's a respected journalist
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with decades of experience and he's creating independent content now and on his facebook page
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he posted a couple of videos about two different climate change topics and one was about the forest
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fires that have consumed california over recent years and in 2020 and what caused them and he was
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interviewing experts on forest fires and then in the other one he's talking about a variety of claims by
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you know climate activists about everything being caused by climate change you know hurricanes fires you name it
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and so how these companies try to get around them being called defamers facebook and these other big companies
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is they hire and i imagine my air quotes here they hire independent fact checkers who are really activists
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themselves of course they they let loose the hounds of independent fact checkers on helpless users of these
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platforms who are not allowed to fight back and they rip them to shreds as if it's some kind of a blood
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sport and there's no appeal process and so you know this climate change group that was tasked with
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reviewing this one is a french outfit very biased uh a review of their reviews of people's posts shows that
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in the case of authors who are perceived as conservative they routinely rate them as false or mostly false
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uh lacking context is another nice one that they like to use yeah but in this case you know they really
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got it wrong here they factually wrong uh you know they they attributed to john a statement that he didn't
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make namely that um he said that climate played no role in forest fires and in fact he actually said that
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climate very well may play a role in fires but it certainly doesn't explain california's fires and
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there are other explanations that have to do with government government behavior and choices and then in the other
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one similarly they they basically smear him with with lack misleading lacking context partially false
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uh contains factual inaccuracy so so that's the label on the more general video now if you're a journalist
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who's devoted his whole career to getting it right and and elucidating the truth to the public
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labeling somebody's post as partly false contains factual inaccuracies is devastating it would be
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like telling the world fixing a label to lawsuits that i filed that they're you know that that that
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they're sanctioned that that they've been sanctioned when they haven't well honestly it is like instead of
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taking the all the news fit to print and changing the subtitle to of the new york times to
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contains factual inaccuracies right or lacking context a lot lacking yeah you would the new york
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times would never become the new york times if that had to be printed on the front page
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of every newspaper and it's true right about the new york times it's true about the new york times and you
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know so the what what so so now these guys are playing a shell game so we sued them but we didn't just
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sue them we wrote them letters first the french you know climate change outfits and we and and
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facebook now meta um and they changed their name in the middle of this case and and you know they
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wrote back saying oh no this is this is you know infotainment basically this is this is our opinion it
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isn't fact checking at all although it says fact checkers and fact checking on it and we didn't buy
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it i mean this was devastating to john it drove his viewership down hugely and for social media writers
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that's that's that's revenue that's credibility that's your professional reputation that's you know
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what what you're labeled maliciously with in wikipedia when you die you know purveyor of false
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video oh yeah climate you know so it that's a stench that doesn't wash off and there's no place to
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wash it off so he sued as a last resort over this issue and facebook responded um you know this is
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just uh this is this is just our opinion this isn't this isn't meant to be fact you aren't meant to take
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it literally when we say fact checkers so it's kind of an orwellian almost ridiculous situation but
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so where does this go from black and white where does this go from here
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well there'll be an argument in front of the judge um interestingly our case has bounced around so far
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amongst two judges uh the second judge just got appointed to the just got you know nominated and
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confirmed to the ninth circuit last week so we're probably going to be awaiting hearing in front of a
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third judge uh to see you know what happens with this case and and look facebook has oh sorry meta
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has overwhelming resources and you know they just brush these claims aside and i've dealt with their
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quote unquote fact checkers before and and glenn your your your listeners may not know what this
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industry of fact checkers is they're again air quotes non-profits they usually employ washed up
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or you know sort of journalists who don't want to work that hard anymore or activists or both
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some from the new york times the wall street journal i've dealt with some very esteemed former
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journalists who now work for these outfits and all day all day long their job is you know slap false
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labels on as many of your enemies and opponents that people who disagree with you as possible
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laugh quietly and go out for a cocktail that's that's the deal and and it's it's not right
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and if you or i did this and called a journalist's work false partly false uh you know lacking context
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that would be harmful and you or i could get sued so the same should be true of facebook and
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communications decency act section 230 is not as these big tech companies repeatedly claim
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a license to lie smear defame and devastate users but that's exactly uh what it what it does over and
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over and over again we have had fact checks from the same people we've had fact checks where they claimed
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uh that something we said was false because it comes from uh a study that on page 435
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made another claim that we weren't making that was proven false right but because the part that
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wasn't false was also in that same study with something that was we we were we were fact checked
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as wrong and it's like wait right and when you look at the label i'm just reading from it from
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from our complaint um the label big big box missing context and then it says from independent fact
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checkers and then there's another little label fact check uh science climate change etc and then it
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says about this notice independent fact checkers say this information is missing context and could
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mislead people and then it says learn more about how facebook works with independent fact checkers to
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stop the spread of false information so it goes on to say this is false so i mean i don't know how much
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more clear you can be so claiming it's now it's news to me and and and by the way they're asking
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every user of facebook to somehow guess that their fact check is simply an opinion their opinion
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commentary right and on top of it they not only uh label you with that but they also then the algorithm
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shoves you down uh and on top of that now i've noticed some of them are not even letting you share
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the story it won't it you can't you it's there it'll say it's false but if you try to share the story
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because you disagree with their opinion you can't even share the story i mean it's it's it's a gulag
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system uh at uh facebook uh what can the average person do well um you know the average person can
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can follow this lawsuit talk about it mock facebook i don't know and you know we have to
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eventually hopefully find some platforms that don't lie defame steal our information
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and play games but ultimately glenn the only remedy for this for the for the citizens for the users of
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social media around the world is our members of congress and our president when they are right
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thinking people need to change communications decency act section 230 to make it clear that
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it is no longer appropriate for these companies to use its protections as a complete carte blanche
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for doing whatever they want there have to be some norms and some rules there should be a user's
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bill of rights there needs to be an appeals process for this and these companies have to face some form
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of liability because so far court after court after court has let them out scot-free and and frankly
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even conservative think tanks and i'm using those air quotes again and conservative non-profits and
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conservative lawmakers have all bought the big tech lobbyist propaganda that these types of quote
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unquote protections for these trillion dollar corporations are necessary to ensure free speech
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yeah they are they're no more necessary to ensure free speech than a taking away defamation liability
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is necessary for you or i or the new york times to stop defaming people it is in fact that liability
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that reigns people in from going too far so we all know the difference between a fact check and an opinion
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and nobody's suing over an opinion here they're suing over a false accusation of lying in an article
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exactly right thank you so much uh harmeet dylan um we'll be watching this uh and our best to john
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on what the causes are of inflation also it lacks in knowledge of what to do to fix it if they're even
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looking for that um this is getting worse and worse and worse there was do we have the audio of
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uh joe biden on a television news program last night in ohio talking and trying to sell his build back
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better uh program to the people of ohio listen to this what do you say to people in the dayton area
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mr president who have expressed concerns about whether trillions more in federal spending will
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will help when you have inflation at a near 40 year high uh the way i say to them this is not going
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to cost a single solitary penny we're not going to increase the deficit by one cent in the build back
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better plan at all boy i'd like to fact check that one uh that does that get eliminated from social
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media right is there anyone who actually believes that as a program that it's all paid for nobody should
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believe that even if it is all paid for saying that it's paid for means it does cost a cent right like
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by definition it literally means that and of course they're lying about it being paid for as well it's
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not it's going to cost somebody something uh and somebody is already paying a lot for it and that
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somebody is everyone inflation you cannot continue to print so much money and dump it into the system
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this is inflation gold line is would like to remind you that the the hedge against inflation the hedge
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you know still we were talking uh earlier today on the podcast about how um san francisco the mayor
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of san francisco is coming out and saying this is going to end we have got to have more financing for
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the police we're going in the other direction because this is the wrong direction it was pretty
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amazing she was angry about it um and whether that is whether that's real or just posturing i don't
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know but time will tell but more and more people are starting to get a little angry at things i want to
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play a cut uh cut 11 this is a guy going off on make a wish listen to this i can't believe you
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people i can't believe that these things are actually happening to our country i got a text
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a message from a friend of mine here on staten island his four-year-old kid his ill four-year-old
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kid was refused by the make-a-wish foundation for his wish because he's not vaccinated at four
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years old you people succumb to this with this 99.7 survival rate in both in virus you should be
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ashamed of yourself now make a wish let me tell you something make a wish foundation you're gonna
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wish that you never made this decision come this week after this weekend i got to do next week we're
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gonna do something for this kid okay and we're gonna let the make-a-wish foundation wish that
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they never made this i want this guy on the air i want to find out how we can help not live
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and i well he sounds like andrew dice clay doesn't he yeah i could when he said i'm from staten island
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i'm like oh really that's a stunner uh i want to see if we can help um but this i i'm playing this
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because i don't know if you saw salvation army is really hurting they are really really hurting on
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their toy drives and everything else this is that a true story though i mean you're not even eligible
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to to be vaccinated at four years old you can't get it if you want it yeah i i don't know i've moved
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on to i've moved on to uh salvation army salvation army they're having a hard time because they were
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becoming politically correct and woke and they said that all of their donors need to you know need
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to be reminded to be woke and all of this crap and people are turning their backs on salvation army
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i'm telling you this is going to start killing these companies just start killing it and some of them
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have started to to turn around the ones who were for the vaccine are now starting to go well maybe
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we won't vaccinate all our very employees maybe well they're seeing you know they're going to lose
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people and make it difficult for their companies to operate including their health care facilities to
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operate so i don't know how that helps the covid situation if we have hospitals without employees
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yeah if you're one of these woke uh companies i think the tide is turning uh and uh especially if
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you make a wish holy cow holy cow uh next week he's got stuff to do this week yeah
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this week next week next week yes i got some things i gotta take care of this week you know
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so melanie she lives in georgia she listens to the program she writes in tells her tells me about
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her dog's experience with rough green she said i was really skeptical glenn about trying rough greens
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i'm sure my dog was not going to eat it boy was i wrong my dog loves rough greens now he only eats
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the food that i put rough greens on and he has so much more energy than he used to thank you thank
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you thank you um i tell you melanie i was exactly the same i i did not think that uno would eat this
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because he is so particular about his food he loves it now your dog may not know that he needs more
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hello and welcome to the uh glennbeck program all right uh you know this program has won so many
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awards for its art and architectural uh discussions very true uh and many of our papers that we have
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had published in some of the most important artistic and uh architectural digests and journals
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and you're you were named the 100th most important person in the world of art and that's true true
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that that is true that that is actually a fact you shouldn't look that one up anyway so i just wanted
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to remind those who you know might be straggling in here uh and you missed uh our uh our latest eight
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part series on the architecture uh and some of the greatest homes ever built uh but uh we wanted
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to continue now our conversation about notre dame now stew uh as a complete and total snob uh don't
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you think that notre dame it was a little old and dusty right yes this old timey thing i mean
01:45:49.840
how do we remix it to make it better well how about taking it and building it into something else
01:45:56.980
entirely okay i mean it doesn't seem like that would be the way i would go well let me ask you this
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again as an art lover art historian architectural design maven really that you are thank you very
01:46:11.020
much yes um if let's say there was an earthquake in egypt and the pyramids went away right i would
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say let's rebuild them but this time as a square yeah that would be a strange choice but wait wait i'm
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not done and then inside we put stores so you're building a mall you can call it that i like to call
01:46:34.960
it a square oh okay with stores inside uh and we reimagine the pyramids i don't think notre dame needs
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to be reimagined you don't think so no yeah i'm gonna go with a full-fledged no so they are uh
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they are adding mood lighting in and contemporary artworks um there are going to be 2 000 movable
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objects that will be rearranged so that uh visitors you know will have more space because the redesign
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wants to foster a dialogue between the old and the new what's that sound like to you stew uh bullcrap
01:47:15.360
yeah yeah okay yeah yeah all right all right i hate to be yeah we can artsy yeah you know i get
01:47:20.280
sometimes we jump a little too far ahead of the audience yeah down these deep architectural roads
01:47:25.140
but i think bullcrap i think this is something that that everybody can go bullcrap on yeah um uh so
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they've they've uh they've got a hundred public figures now including art historians heritage and
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architectural experts intellectuals artists and writers uh and uh these people because they are
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not progressive thinkers uh they're all saying don't do this why don't you just rebuild it because
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it was one of the most important buildings uh you know of all time and it was pretty spectacular the
01:48:00.660
way it was but those people don't know what they're talking about so yeah it doesn't it doesn't
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seem doesn't seem like a a sensible view or sensible view um have you followed this is a little bit off
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topic but it is it is tied to our deep architectural understanding yes of the world yes have you followed
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this the hudson yards situation in new york city oh you mean the vase the what the vase the vase oh that's
01:48:28.580
what it's called the vase i thought it was the vessel oh yeah you're sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry
01:48:32.820
i'm sorry you're right the vessel so hudson yards is a new development uh by the way the cost of
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hudson yards 25 billion dollars 25 just the 25 billion though not that's that's that's not just the
01:48:43.800
vessel no that's the entire entire complex so the vessel the vessel is is a bizarre uh-huh art
01:48:52.580
sort of display uh i guess you could call it it is a um 160 some odd 154 it is 154 interconnecting
01:49:03.560
flights of stairs now you might think i don't like one flight of stairs i don't like stairs at all
01:49:11.240
and if this is to get me to look at art i guess i'll never see art right how do you how do you take
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art and say you know what could make this better making it into a whole bunch of staircases
01:49:24.500
i mean that just that is the that is like no one should go see that it's just we don't want anyone
01:49:32.620
here we don't want anyone here this land used to be occupied by humans we put the vessel there
01:49:40.280
no humans are around anymore yeah that's kind of what well it's kind of one of the things that's
01:49:45.940
going on right now so they built this thing by the way vessel the bunch of stairs that we're talking
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about cost 200 million dollars 200 million for a bunch of stairs that by the way we should point
01:49:55.280
out don't lead to anything that's the that's the thing about vessel is that it doesn't not like
01:49:59.400
you're taking stairs to get to a store does it you're just walking on stairs and there's no real
01:50:04.880
art to see the stairs are the stairs are the stairs are the art now that's the way i think of stairs
01:50:09.320
often art that's art i'm not going to use it i'm not going to walk on that that's a beautiful
01:50:14.200
piece of art right there now they do say they're a pretty great views when you get up to the top
01:50:20.480
which is 16 stories of stairs 16 stories in new york that's crazy you because you can see over
01:50:26.780
nothing none of the buildings none of the buildings none of the buildings at 16 you're looking right
01:50:31.060
into a office right it's beautiful so they built this thing and actually it's been really tragic
01:50:36.560
because people i don't know if this has to do with walking up lots of stairs but people get to the
01:50:40.600
top and then jump off and so they had three suicides the thing opened in 2019 and they had
01:50:47.740
three suicides so eventually they closed uh the display and refurbished it um so they people couldn't
01:50:55.560
jump off uh and reopened it and then someone else jumped off somehow uh and it was like a kid it was
01:51:02.520
a really tragic terrible freaking story um so so this is becoming like a suicide spot yes and it is
01:51:09.480
suicide it's not people falling off no it's not people falling off it's people jumping off and
01:51:13.480
it's not just for humor's sake it's not people getting up and going there is nothing to this
01:51:18.160
and now i've got to walk all the way down right it's it's not that not an aversion to stairs that
01:51:22.860
we know of although how do we know you know uh i'd get halfway up and go you know it's faster
01:51:28.840
faster right that i i wouldn't be stunned if it was someone in in our type of shape been to the
01:51:38.080
guggenheim no you have to walk up now it's ramps so that makes it a little better but you have to
01:51:43.620
walk up and by the time you get up to the top you're like this is all crap this is just all crap
01:51:49.060
why am i doing this why am i doing that's why they put it at the top because you don't know it's
01:51:52.320
crap till you get there yes but then you have to go down right yeah so uh they now close this thing
01:51:57.860
and they don't think they they think they may never open it again it's a 200 million dollar
01:52:04.820
staircase vessel yes vessel that goes nowhere that goes nowhere except apparently giving people
01:52:11.540
options to kill themselves so now they're going to have to close it completely so may i say and this
01:52:16.520
is not for uh humor this is uh more philosophical if we could switch gears from our deep our deep deep
01:52:24.780
discussion of uh art and architecture right to philosophy that is a monument to america today
01:52:42.120
that is pretty much what we're dealing with in our society things that don't make any sense at all
01:52:51.000
and our kids are killing themselves congratulations it seems like the path we are on that is a that is
01:52:58.720
a vessel of wokeness that's what that should be called vessel of wokeness when do they decide if
01:53:07.740
they're going to open it up again they don't know yet uh it closed in july so it's been closed for a
01:53:12.300
while but you know this thing's just sitting there you know costing costing money in the middle of a 25
01:53:17.820
billion dollar complex and it's now just known as a suicide hub and suicide researchers say that
01:53:22.720
that's a real thing that like you know like the golden gate bridge isn't necessarily the greatest
01:53:28.620
place in the world to commit suicide if that's what you're going to do it's just that once people start
01:53:33.120
doing it it becomes a thing among people who might commit suicide and they go to these like
01:53:37.480
these like landmarks to do these things would you want any would you want your your business or
01:53:44.560
your house or whatever it is surrounding this thing that they've built would you want anything
01:53:49.640
to do it's like having a murder house you know where somebody was violently murdered i don't want
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to buy that house uh this one had several people and it's sitting right there by your front door
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this is the glenn beck program stew do you remember the woman that we had on i think it was
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two weeks ago the interchained wine and coffee bistro and she opened it up during the pandemic
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and they find her all kinds of things she face up to two years in jail yeah yeah um her court
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appearance happened and she was sentenced to jail uh 90 days in jail 90 days incredible uh and the
01:55:54.060
judge lectured her you've got to understand this law applies to you you were a public risk because
01:56:00.120
you kept your business open no no she wasn't this was the second closing she closed it the first time
01:56:05.420
the second closing and i think this is going to happen more and more there's got to be more and
01:56:09.460
more pushback because they're starting to come back with these closings and the mask mandates and
01:56:13.880
everything else and i think america's done with it they're at that we're at that point too where
01:56:17.840
it's true you know if we all march together they can't stop all of us they you're seeing this all
01:56:22.980
over the country a lot of these a lot of these states are just giving up we saw this from um sort
01:56:27.900
of from colorado yesterday a democratic governor coming out and saying look you know you want at this
01:56:32.340
point it's done you want to get vaccinated get vaccinated if you don't you don't it's on you
01:56:36.160
like okay that's a that's a reasonable position for a government to take look we came up with these
01:56:42.560
with these treatments we think they work if you don't think they do then you take the risk by not
01:56:46.220
taking them and by the way the same thing goes for people who do take them you take the risk and if
01:56:50.000
you if you think they're a good idea whatever risk is associated you go analyze the results you deal
01:56:55.060
with your own life we're not your daughter we're not your doctor we're not your dad just you go and
01:57:00.260
assess the risk in your own life he said quote everybody has had more than enough opportunity to get
01:57:05.860
vaccinated hopefully it's been at your pharmacy your grocery store a bus near you or a big event
01:57:10.600
at this point if you haven't been vaccinated it's really your own darn fault the emergency is over
01:57:15.760
you know public health officials don't get to tell people what to wear it's not their job
01:57:19.660
mask is not something that you require you don't tell people what to wear you don't tell people to
01:57:24.600
wear a jacket when they go out in winter and force them to wear it if they get frostbite it's their own
01:57:30.280
damn fault if you haven't been vaccinated that's your choice i respect it but it's your fault when you're
01:57:35.360
in the hospital with covid i would also say that if you're in the hospital with covid
01:57:39.600
and you got the vaccine like the 70 percent of people that are in the hospital that's also your
01:57:46.680
own damn fault i mean it's just it's not i mean look we've lost we've lost the plot here a little
01:57:51.780
bit it's not your fault if you get freaking covid no it's yeah it's china's fault really it's yeah
01:57:56.480
the chinese government is the only is the main person to blame yeah if you get uh if you get covid
01:58:02.420
and even that's you know that's at this point old news right we all know that it's spread all over
01:58:07.980
the place you can't you can't people who have taken all sorts of precautions including getting
01:58:12.900
vaccinated including staying in including take you know wearing masks they've getting they're
01:58:16.800
getting it too yeah you know this is not something you punish your getting a respiratory disease is
01:58:20.980
not something you punish other people let people alone just leave people alone unless you like it's
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something egregious right if someone who has active covid and symptoms and just says i don't care i'm
01:58:32.260
going to that old folks home those are the people who gave people aids intentionally it's happened right
01:58:37.180
and they went to jail yeah you should avoid that activity but we have to understand that's we can't
01:58:41.620
be blaming other people for our respiratory illnesses tonight i'm sitting down with ron de santis
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the governor of florida ron de santis tonight 9 p.m eastern a full hour with ron de santis i'm excited i
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have not spent very much time with him uh in the past and i'm a fan i'm watching him from texas i'm a fan
01:59:02.480
wish he was the governor of texas quite honestly he's acting like a texan um but uh he's doing a great job
01:59:09.900
will he run uh for president does he and trump get along what does this look like and i want to really talk
01:59:17.820
to him about all of his uh new policies he just passed another one or just uh introduced another one
01:59:23.040
yesterday on wokeism yeah on crt the idea it kind of based on the texas law the texas abortion law
01:59:29.740
where like citizens could theoretically sue um schools i guess if they if they are teaching crt
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obviously i want crt out of the schools very badly i am concerned a bit of the structure of law even as
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it applies to abortion it doesn't seem like the type of thing that is the a sensible way of running
01:59:48.180
a legal system where you just instead of having the the law enforcement uh enforce a law you have
01:59:55.780
citizens suing each other constantly over things that they don't like now we know gavin newsom's
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already saying he's going to do something on the second amendment based on this we'll see
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i think less likely than or more more likely than something like the second amendment which is
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obviously in the constitution you know things like buying an suv right like how that's not a
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constitutional right and you left-wing governments are going to use this in all sorts of ways we're
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not comfortable with i i just you know i'm not a big fan of it for since it came out here in texas
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and i think it could spiral out of control yeah and that's not a good thing ron desantis tonight
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talking to uh glenn beck oof that never works out well no i've noticed he always makes you look like
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an idiot i know that i have not noticed yeah it's bad he doesn't seem to um want to appear i don't
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know why you have him on every week because he seems to hate you i love the we get messages all the
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time like i can't believe glenn is treating you that way don't you get that we're in on it like
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last week i walked off his show i walked off right in the middle of it that's true you know i had
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