The Glenn Beck Program - November 25, 2024


Former Soros Employee to Lead Trump's Treasury?! | 11⧸25⧸24


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 2 minutes

Words per Minute

173.4509

Word Count

21,219

Sentence Count

2,250

Misogynist Sentences

33

Hate Speech Sentences

35


Summary

Pat and Stu join Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program to discuss the Trump Nominees and their potential impact on the world, including the possibility of a nuclear war with Russia. Glenn also talks about the dangers of nuclear war and how to avoid it.


Transcript

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00:01:13.940 This is the Glenn Beck Program.
00:01:16.980 This week featuring Pat and Stu for Glenn, we got to talk about some of the Trump nominees, one in particular.
00:01:25.660 I'd like to get your thoughts on Stu.
00:01:27.600 But also, can we avoid World War III?
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00:01:42.380 Sub-optimal is how I would classify nuclear war right now.
00:01:48.600 Hmm.
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00:03:12.860 I knew it.
00:03:13.460 I knew it.
00:03:16.360 So is there any other red line Joe Biden can cross to start up a war with Russia?
00:03:22.920 I mean, we've done pretty much everything we said in the beginning.
00:03:28.220 Would lead to World War III.
00:03:29.820 So there were certain lines we set out there that we're not going to cross.
00:03:35.080 And the first among them was we would never invite them to NATO.
00:03:40.540 We would never invite them to NATO.
00:03:42.320 They'll never be a NATO country.
00:03:43.880 Ukraine.
00:03:44.560 Ukraine.
00:03:45.080 Yes.
00:03:46.500 Ukraine has been invited to be a NATO country.
00:03:49.560 That's in the works right now.
00:03:51.060 They're not officially a NATO country.
00:03:53.600 But we're well on the way to that.
00:03:55.520 And we won't stop that process.
00:03:58.140 We haven't said this was a promise we made many years ago, decades ago.
00:04:04.280 We did.
00:04:04.960 We did indicate that we would not do that to Russia back in the day.
00:04:10.300 It would be like if Cuba wanted to be part of a Soviet bloc.
00:04:15.880 And this has happened, by the way.
00:04:17.360 You might remember 1963.
00:04:20.200 But we'd have a problem with that.
00:04:22.800 We'd have a big problem with that.
00:04:24.240 Really?
00:04:24.700 Yeah.
00:04:25.000 And we did.
00:04:25.680 And we did.
00:04:26.140 And we put a stop to it.
00:04:28.080 And it nearly caused nuclear war.
00:04:29.700 In fact, there have been many countries in this hemisphere that flirted with communism.
00:04:37.040 Yeah.
00:04:37.260 And we invaded most of them.
00:04:38.960 Yes.
00:04:39.580 We did.
00:04:40.340 Grenada among them.
00:04:41.560 Yes.
00:04:42.320 Grenada.
00:04:43.240 Nicaragua.
00:04:44.000 Nicaragua.
00:04:44.480 What's the capital?
00:04:46.040 Nicaragua.
00:04:46.520 Yeah.
00:04:47.120 Nicaragua.
00:04:48.600 Nicaragua.
00:04:49.120 Oh, yes.
00:04:50.040 And we had some hand in what was going on in many of those nations.
00:04:54.800 Panama.
00:04:55.120 I mean, you name it, we've been there.
00:04:58.000 We don't like that.
00:04:59.300 Venezuela.
00:05:00.440 Venezuela.
00:05:01.000 Venezuela.
00:05:01.460 Yeah.
00:05:02.220 Is another example of generally in our region.
00:05:05.200 You might have heard of something called the Monroe Doctrine, which, you know, has kind
00:05:10.080 of driven our doctrine for the last 200 years.
00:05:15.160 Named after Monroe Muffler.
00:05:17.060 Yes, exactly.
00:05:18.120 That's where you have to go.
00:05:18.480 Right.
00:05:18.620 A lot of people don't know that.
00:05:19.460 Yeah.
00:05:19.840 It's named after Monroe Muffler.
00:05:21.580 Look, a guy knew his mufflers and he knew his doctrines.
00:05:25.120 And he got both of those through.
00:05:26.740 Yeah.
00:05:27.040 Yeah.
00:05:27.440 Yeah.
00:05:27.720 That's good.
00:05:28.340 So, yeah.
00:05:29.060 No, that is a kind of a major.
00:05:31.240 And that's just one.
00:05:32.500 One.
00:05:32.920 And then there was fighter jets.
00:05:35.080 We're not going to send them fighter jets.
00:05:36.020 F-16s?
00:05:36.200 We're not sending them.
00:05:36.620 F-16s.
00:05:36.880 Aren't we crazy?
00:05:37.940 Yeah.
00:05:38.240 We do that.
00:05:38.780 It's World War III, Pat.
00:05:39.720 Right.
00:05:40.060 Right.
00:05:40.380 So, we're doing that.
00:05:41.860 We sent them fighter jets.
00:05:44.060 Yeah.
00:05:44.500 Tanks.
00:05:44.960 Tanks was another one.
00:05:45.860 Tanks was another one.
00:05:46.720 Yeah, tanks.
00:05:47.160 No M1 Abram tanks.
00:05:49.300 We're not going to do that.
00:05:49.980 Not going to do that.
00:05:50.660 World War III, Pat.
00:05:51.620 Exactly.
00:05:52.060 Something like that.
00:05:52.740 Yes.
00:05:53.000 That's a line we can't cross.
00:05:54.600 Sorry, Crane.
00:05:55.400 But, I mean, we'd like to.
00:05:56.860 We just can't.
00:05:57.820 But we did.
00:06:00.620 Then, the fourth thing was long-range missiles.
00:06:04.060 We will not send you long-range missiles.
00:06:05.780 No.
00:06:06.140 Don't you even ask.
00:06:07.180 No.
00:06:07.400 Don't even ask.
00:06:08.740 Okay.
00:06:08.920 You can ask.
00:06:09.340 Okay.
00:06:09.580 You can have them.
00:06:10.020 All right.
00:06:10.420 And you can have them.
00:06:11.700 So, now they have long-range missiles.
00:06:13.680 You cannot fire them into Russian territory, Pat.
00:06:17.080 Well, okay.
00:06:17.860 Yes, you can.
00:06:18.560 Oh, we can?
00:06:19.080 Yes.
00:06:19.380 Okay.
00:06:19.640 Now they can.
00:06:20.320 Yeah.
00:06:21.100 But, I mean, that was ancient history.
00:06:23.100 How old were you last summer?
00:06:24.920 I was four.
00:06:25.740 I can't even remember.
00:06:26.580 I was four.
00:06:27.240 I can't remember.
00:06:27.600 I don't even know if I was born.
00:06:29.020 You might not have been, because I'm a little older than you.
00:06:30.840 A little bit.
00:06:31.520 So, if I was four, you were probably not born.
00:06:33.640 Probably not even born.
00:06:34.680 So, it's hard for you to remember.
00:06:37.340 Is there even more?
00:06:37.920 I can't remember.
00:06:38.520 That's the only ones I can remember.
00:06:39.480 Well, the latest.
00:06:40.120 And I'm not positive we've ever promised not to do this, but we did the landmines, too.
00:06:44.500 Oh, yeah.
00:06:44.860 That's right.
00:06:45.200 Antipersonnel.
00:06:46.260 Landmines.
00:06:46.540 Like, come on.
00:06:49.960 So.
00:06:50.280 It's a lot.
00:06:51.060 It's a lot.
00:06:51.980 It's a lot.
00:06:54.260 That one, I feel like, is more defensible than some of the others, honestly.
00:06:58.180 Because that is a defensive weapon.
00:07:00.340 Yeah.
00:07:00.740 Right.
00:07:00.760 I mean, that is like, hey, don't come any farther.
00:07:03.740 Yes.
00:07:04.140 Like, you know, like, and I think that's a message Ukraine is well within their rights to send.
00:07:09.340 Yeah.
00:07:09.520 And, frankly, if I were Ukraine, if we were doing a talk show in Ukraine, we would be saying, hey, you know what would be great is if we got F-1, if we got F-16s, and we got Abrams tanks, and we got more money from all of these countries, and we got long-range missiles, and we could fire them into Russia.
00:07:26.620 We would want all of those things.
00:07:28.460 I understand why they're asking for them.
00:07:30.420 Yeah.
00:07:30.900 Oh, yeah.
00:07:31.480 Absolutely.
00:07:31.520 I just don't understand why we're always saying yes.
00:07:33.640 I don't get it.
00:07:35.420 I really don't get it.
00:07:36.940 Rogan was talking about this last week and was complaining about all the aid that we're giving to them and that maybe there's going to be some sanity coming in the future with Donald Trump.
00:07:47.860 And do you remember Vladimir Klitschko?
00:07:51.500 Yeah.
00:07:51.820 Heavyweight boxer.
00:07:52.600 The boxer, yeah.
00:07:52.920 Right?
00:07:53.440 He's the mayor now.
00:07:54.360 World champion, I believe.
00:07:55.820 Yeah.
00:07:56.240 Mayor Keeve.
00:07:57.080 So he is a political figure.
00:07:58.960 But here was his response.
00:08:00.300 Of Donald Trump's recent announcements, the one that intrigues, even excites me the most.
00:08:05.400 Oh, wait.
00:08:05.980 That's Fareed Zakaria.
00:08:07.360 I was a little thrown by the accent there.
00:08:09.340 Wait.
00:08:11.620 I know there's an accent.
00:08:13.500 It just might not be Ukrainian in that particular sense.
00:08:15.580 Yeah.
00:08:15.940 It didn't seem like it.
00:08:17.780 Mm-hmm.
00:08:18.300 All right.
00:08:18.620 This is Klitschko.
00:08:19.520 Joe Rogan, I listened to your latest podcast.
00:08:22.460 I'm sending you this video to let you know that it is a group.
00:08:24.160 Let me stop for a second.
00:08:25.160 Look what a weird world we're in.
00:08:27.540 Isn't it?
00:08:27.860 Here's the guy who's the mayor of the capital of a city who is in a country that's in war
00:08:34.580 with one of the major superpowers of the nation, and he's doing addresses to a podcast
00:08:39.360 host.
00:08:40.060 I thought it is weird.
00:08:42.500 It is weird.
00:08:42.900 By the way, to remind you, was the host of Fear Factor.
00:08:47.400 Yeah, that's right.
00:08:48.820 Where they ate like spiders every week.
00:08:51.220 Exactly.
00:08:51.640 Again, that's still, to be clear, a higher, more venerable position than my career.
00:09:00.420 So I'm not knocking him on this.
00:09:02.460 He's had a good career.
00:09:03.640 But it is weird.
00:09:05.460 It is weird.
00:09:05.980 It is weird.
00:09:06.460 I mean, you could argue.
00:09:07.820 You could go further than that.
00:09:09.040 Because the guy addressing Joe Rogan, who used to be Fear Factor host, is a former heavyweight
00:09:15.920 champion of the world, and the president they're talking about used to be the host of The Apprentice
00:09:25.700 on television.
00:09:27.160 It's just weird, right?
00:09:29.100 And the guy who's the president of your country, that we're speaking of here, Ukraine, was a comedian
00:09:35.700 who was famous for playing the piano with his penis.
00:09:39.500 Well, you know, what else have you got?
00:09:41.220 I mean, I'm not a pianist.
00:09:43.180 I'm not saying that's not a special talent.
00:09:45.920 Right.
00:09:46.340 Obviously.
00:09:46.840 It probably is.
00:09:47.740 It probably is.
00:09:48.700 And by the way...
00:09:49.560 I've never tried it.
00:09:50.560 No, I never have either.
00:09:51.880 No.
00:09:52.120 That's weird.
00:09:53.640 Honestly, when I think about a piano, and I think about the way the little case comes down
00:09:58.080 and covers the keys, I do not want to be even attempting it.
00:10:00.880 Oh, my.
00:10:01.340 It seems really like a bad idea.
00:10:02.940 Yeah, it does.
00:10:04.040 And the funny thing about all of this is the one person in all of this conversation who's
00:10:09.360 like a normal figure is by far the least competent.
00:10:13.460 Joe Biden.
00:10:14.440 Right.
00:10:14.700 He has a normal path to be in this conversation, right?
00:10:18.320 Yes.
00:10:18.400 Senator, all these committees, vice president, president of the United States.
00:10:22.640 And he's the one that's terrible out of all...
00:10:25.200 Right.
00:10:25.340 Like, he's by far the least competent.
00:10:28.080 No question.
00:10:29.220 I would honestly give me...
00:10:30.720 Jake Paul's a boxer, too.
00:10:32.580 I'd take Jake Paul, I think, before I would take Joe Biden.
00:10:35.620 Yeah.
00:10:36.040 I don't know what Jake would do, but he probably at least would have a chance of doing something
00:10:40.900 positive.
00:10:41.760 I know.
00:10:42.460 It's madness.
00:10:44.140 When you think of all the players involved here, it really is incredible.
00:10:48.960 But he had more to say.
00:10:50.180 You talk about these American weapons being sent to Ukraine, which you believe will lead
00:10:54.720 to the Third World War.
00:10:56.180 Yes.
00:10:56.440 So, let me tell you that you're repeating Russian propaganda.
00:11:00.660 No, brother.
00:11:01.280 Put...
00:11:01.540 Anytime we say anything that Ukrainians disagree with, it's Russian propaganda.
00:11:06.900 Right?
00:11:07.480 It's like...
00:11:08.400 That's what they...
00:11:09.160 That's all they have.
00:11:10.140 It's like the racist thing here.
00:11:12.020 Anything you say that goes against their main thrust, which is to continue to get more
00:11:17.960 American aid, it's Russian propaganda.
00:11:20.040 Right.
00:11:20.480 And like, these arguments might...
00:11:23.200 People are like, oh, the Russian propaganda.
00:11:24.960 Like, they would also say the same thing about what we just discussed about how we, by the
00:11:28.440 way, truthfully, did tell them we weren't going to let Ukraine get into NATO.
00:11:32.100 Right.
00:11:32.460 And yes, that's also Russian propaganda.
00:11:34.340 They say it all the time.
00:11:35.720 Number one, it also happens to be true.
00:11:37.560 A lot of Russian propaganda is not true.
00:11:41.380 That part of it is true, number one.
00:11:44.240 And number two, it's like, well, it's a sensible risk assessment.
00:11:49.940 Like, not everything that is said in the nation of Russia is false.
00:11:55.480 It does...
00:11:56.200 Just because...
00:11:56.900 And I believe this.
00:11:57.700 I think you do as well, Pat.
00:11:59.000 That just because we said those things 30 and 40 years ago under different politicians
00:12:04.760 and everything else, that does not mean that it's okay for them to invade Ukraine.
00:12:09.420 Right.
00:12:09.820 That's not Russian propaganda.
00:12:11.220 Like, I think it was...
00:12:12.180 Actually, what they did is terrible.
00:12:13.580 And they're the main part of the problem here.
00:12:16.580 And I want them to lose the war.
00:12:17.800 I want them to lose.
00:12:19.020 Yeah.
00:12:19.200 That being said, I don't want to be involved in every little intricate detail here, mainly
00:12:25.440 because I don't want to flare this up into a situation that winds up with missiles falling
00:12:31.240 on my children's heads.
00:12:32.740 That's the issue that I have here.
00:12:34.720 I can understand, if you happen to be Ukrainian, that you are like, well, we want Crimea back
00:12:42.320 to...
00:12:42.580 Like, I get it.
00:12:43.440 I would be in the same position if I was there.
00:12:45.360 If we were doing a show in Kiev today, I'd be like,
00:12:48.860 what do you mean we're just going to let them have Crimea?
00:12:51.680 No.
00:12:52.720 And they have the right to fight for every inch of it.
00:12:55.720 That doesn't mean we have to be involved in all of that.
00:12:58.900 And that's the...
00:12:59.700 Like, the consideration is us.
00:13:01.700 That...
00:13:02.100 You know, America first is a slogan at some level.
00:13:06.180 We all understand that.
00:13:07.460 But it's also, like, a pretty good idea of, like, the beginning of our priority list.
00:13:12.640 Like, that's kind of the way it's supposed to work for a nation state.
00:13:16.120 Kind of.
00:13:17.100 Yeah.
00:13:17.500 In fact, exactly.
00:13:18.880 It's exactly how it's supposed to work for a nation state.
00:13:21.900 Because Russia is in trouble.
00:13:24.200 So they want to scare you and people like you.
00:13:27.980 His war was supposed to last three days.
00:13:30.780 It has lasted three years, thanks to the heroism and sacrifice of us Ukrainians.
00:13:36.860 Well, not exactly.
00:13:38.720 I mean, yes, in part.
00:13:39.900 It's the heroism and sacrifice of Ukrainians.
00:13:44.380 Yes, they put up a valiant fight.
00:13:46.260 But without the hundreds of billions of dollars in military equipment, in training, in humanitarian aid, in all forms of aid from us, it just might have been a three-day war.
00:13:58.940 Or maybe three weeks, certainly.
00:14:03.120 I mean, the Council on Foreign Relations puts the number, the total number of expenditures from the United States to Ukraine since this began at $175 billion.
00:14:14.980 And that's just us.
00:14:16.000 That's just us.
00:14:16.620 Not even including European nations.
00:14:17.820 That's also the official figure that the CFR is giving.
00:14:22.120 So if I had to guess, I would think they're really low-balling it.
00:14:25.560 It's probably double that.
00:14:27.400 But just the $175 billion, I mean, that is an unbelievable amount of money that we have pumped into Ukraine.
00:14:37.480 Money and military hardware and humanitarian aid.
00:14:42.640 And bless their hearts, I don't want them to be overrun by Russia.
00:14:45.680 But my gosh, that is, again, as you pointed out, just us, $175 billion that we admit to.
00:14:53.220 That's incredible.
00:14:54.580 That's about 50 years' worth of aid that we've given to Israel.
00:14:58.020 And people scream and yell at the top of their lungs about that.
00:15:01.600 Why is this okay?
00:15:03.300 But aid to Israel is ridiculous.
00:15:07.840 Hard to believe.
00:15:08.920 It is.
00:15:09.600 And look, they have extended this past how you'd think this war would go without our help.
00:15:18.140 And honestly, the first few weeks wasn't really about our help.
00:15:21.940 They did push back the Russian military in impressive ways.
00:15:26.480 I don't think they would have been able to hold the line nearly as long as they have.
00:15:29.240 No way.
00:15:29.600 And even with all of our help, every normal assessment shows that they are losing right now.
00:15:35.920 And they had their little pushback.
00:15:38.060 It didn't work.
00:15:39.000 They've been able to gain some territory inside of Russia.
00:15:41.180 But what's happening on the Ukrainian side right now is that Russia has the upper hand.
00:15:46.880 Now, look, probably the sensible thing here and where this lands, probably when Trump gets into office,
00:15:52.820 is that negotiations begin, Trump goes to them behind the scenes and says,
00:15:58.460 this is going to stop.
00:16:00.600 We're not going to be giving you this much money.
00:16:02.260 So figure out a way to be happy with something.
00:16:05.660 Right.
00:16:05.980 And probably goes to Russia and says the opposite and says,
00:16:09.520 we're going to keep giving them all this money and we're going to multiply.
00:16:12.780 I mean, he's said it publicly.
00:16:14.240 We're going to give them more weapons than has ever been seen in human history.
00:16:19.640 Right.
00:16:19.780 And I think the truth probably is somewhere in the middle in that, like,
00:16:24.340 we will probably assist Ukraine at some level, but hopefully in defensive measures.
00:16:29.720 That's why I'm not as worried about the landmines.
00:16:31.300 Like, landmines are bad for a society as it matures past a war because, you know,
00:16:36.000 kids wind up going to school and it's bad.
00:16:38.880 Yeah.
00:16:39.720 But it is a defensive weapon.
00:16:41.760 And I think a defensible use of it to say, OK, look, we have these new, quote unquote, borders.
00:16:46.420 We're not happy with them if we were Ukraine.
00:16:48.320 We're going to make sure if anyone tries to come across them again, it's very, very ugly.
00:16:52.440 You build up your defenses.
00:16:54.540 You're not trying to, you know, penetrate where Russia is setting up at this point.
00:16:59.460 And that sucks for Ukraine.
00:17:01.180 It does.
00:17:02.400 But my interest is America and not seeing this spiral into a global conflict.
00:17:08.220 And I do think every day, every red line that's crossed, we get closer and closer to that.
00:17:12.400 We've got more on this from Vladimir Klitschko coming up in just a sec.
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00:18:51.900 We've been playing this Klitschko response to people being concerned in the United States
00:18:58.580 about World War III.
00:18:59.640 I guess that's not a concern as far as he is concerned.
00:19:04.460 But to me, it sort of is.
00:19:06.060 I think to you, it is a bit.
00:19:08.060 I think we'd like to avoid World War III if possible.
00:19:10.700 My guess is he has a policy of Ukraine first.
00:19:13.460 Yeah.
00:19:13.880 Which is, by the way, very sensible.
00:19:16.140 It is.
00:19:16.400 For the mayor of Kiev.
00:19:17.300 Sure is.
00:19:18.080 But it's not necessarily our policy.
00:19:20.400 No.
00:19:21.040 But he continued.
00:19:22.060 Let's just finish this off.
00:19:23.180 So you're using the only weapon that Putin really intends to use.
00:19:27.820 Propaganda.
00:19:28.780 And this weapon really weakens our democracies.
00:19:32.820 Yeah.
00:19:33.060 Well, first of all, the United States is not a democracy.
00:19:36.820 It's not?
00:19:37.400 No.
00:19:37.720 It is not.
00:19:38.140 I've heard the Democrats are fighting to protect our democracy, which indicates we have one.
00:19:43.100 But they're wrong.
00:19:45.080 It's not a democracy.
00:19:46.240 It is a republic.
00:19:47.560 And actually, Ukraine certainly isn't a democracy either.
00:19:52.380 I mean, they just suspended elections.
00:19:54.340 Zelensky suspended the election to remain in power.
00:19:56.660 Does that sound democratic?
00:19:57.880 It doesn't to me.
00:19:59.400 I could be wrong on that.
00:20:00.700 Putin's Russia wants to destroy Ukraine quietly.
00:20:03.980 Yeah.
00:20:04.260 They want America to stay quiet.
00:20:06.380 Not great, but quiet.
00:20:08.220 But a great America is not an America that abundons countries, that defend freedom with their lives.
00:20:15.600 In short, you see, I have quite a few points of difference.
00:20:20.020 If you invite me on your podcast, we could discuss them like freedom.
00:20:24.480 What is happening?
00:20:25.940 I know.
00:20:26.760 If you invite me on your podcast, what?
00:20:30.080 Yeah.
00:20:30.720 This is war today.
00:20:32.120 This is how it's fought.
00:20:33.220 Yep.
00:20:34.220 It's true.
00:20:34.800 And look, this is his opinion.
00:20:36.840 I think a lot, some of it's true, right?
00:20:39.540 I mean, I think there is a lot of Russian propaganda and some of it does get swallowed up.
00:20:43.680 Yes.
00:20:43.820 You know, it's true.
00:20:45.240 But like, it's not true.
00:20:46.640 It's quite obvious that I, like, I take Vladimir Putin seriously when he threatens nuclear war.
00:20:57.260 You know, like, I just feel like that's the right thing to do.
00:20:59.300 Now, look, is he going to do it?
00:21:00.740 I hope not.
00:21:02.320 I hope not.
00:21:02.860 But like, do you realize that the thing standing between us and World War III is Vladimir Putin's restraint?
00:21:13.140 Okay, I guess we can just put all of our eggs into that basket.
00:21:16.780 But I don't think it's like it's a it doesn't seem like a great idea.
00:21:19.740 And it is it is that exactly that we don't trust Putin, not that we're his lap dogs.
00:21:25.580 We don't trust him.
00:21:27.380 Not at all.
00:21:27.700 That's why we have to conduct ourselves responsibly.
00:21:31.080 And we're just not doing that right now.
00:21:32.620 No, especially when we have a new president coming in, a president that's going to have a totally different way of talking to these people.
00:21:38.940 If you're if you're Joe Biden and you're really trying to avoid this and not just worried about your legacy or whatever else is your I mean, whatever other bizarre thing he's worried about right now.
00:21:49.160 You want to calm the waters.
00:21:52.280 Right.
00:21:52.760 Like, let Donald Trump come in and try something different if you want to end this war.
00:21:57.280 Doesn't seem to want to do that, Pat.
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00:23:59.140 Some interesting nominees from President-elect Trump.
00:24:04.860 He's not wasting any time.
00:24:06.460 He is really not.
00:24:07.120 He's going for it.
00:24:07.980 There's no, like, it's not like that you build the drama with, like, the long pauses in a reality show.
00:24:13.800 He's just like, here's 15 of them.
00:24:16.340 Like, I like it.
00:24:17.280 I like this approach better.
00:24:18.180 And I think he's done now, right?
00:24:19.680 Didn't he?
00:24:20.060 He's announced for all of them.
00:24:21.760 For all of the cabinet positions, he's named somebody now.
00:24:24.480 That doesn't mean, of course, there's a long way to go.
00:24:27.740 So that's going to be, you know, some of them are going to be difficult.
00:24:32.000 Really difficult.
00:24:32.740 But there's some that are a little bit surprising, like Jonathan Capehart.
00:24:40.660 It was conflicted about, he is a gay man on, I think it's MSNBC, right?
00:24:46.420 Yeah.
00:24:46.660 It was conflicted about Trump's nominee of another openly gay man to be the highest ranking openly gay man ever in anybody's administration.
00:24:57.140 So it's going to be hard, you're going to, they're going to be hard pressed to say that he's anti-LGBTQQIA2+.
00:25:04.660 Wait, so the openly gay man is upset that an openly gay man has been named to the highest.
00:25:10.000 Well, he's conflicted.
00:25:11.100 He's conflicted.
00:25:11.840 He's conflicted.
00:25:12.560 And I think the only reason he's conflicted is because it's coming from Trump.
00:25:17.380 Right.
00:25:18.120 I don't know any other reason that he would be conflicted.
00:25:20.580 Well, I think, you know, look, we want, of course, people of diverse backgrounds to be named to these high positions, unless, of course, it comes from our political opponents.
00:25:30.180 Then we want them to be oppressed.
00:25:34.120 We want the oppression to continue until our side can make that nomination.
00:25:39.300 Exactly.
00:25:40.540 Exactly.
00:25:41.240 Is that what he's arguing, essentially?
00:25:42.840 It seems to be.
00:25:43.500 That seems to be his argument.
00:25:44.580 Now, who is the first?
00:25:46.880 Scott Basant.
00:25:48.060 Oh, I didn't know he was openly gay.
00:25:49.240 For Treasury Secretary.
00:25:49.600 You know, part of the reason I didn't know he was openly gay is because it has absolutely no connection with anything he'll be doing.
00:25:56.960 And my problem with him is not that he's openly gay and has a husband and a couple of kids.
00:26:01.580 My problem with him is that he's a former George Soros money handler.
00:26:06.560 That's kind of my issue with him.
00:26:08.520 Yeah.
00:26:09.880 And worked closely with Soros, including on, he was there for the collapse of the British, was it the, what was the currency?
00:26:18.320 Yes, the pound.
00:26:19.320 The pound, the pound.
00:26:19.940 Was it?
00:26:20.340 Yeah.
00:26:21.280 I don't know.
00:26:22.120 Yeah.
00:26:22.540 And they made billions on that.
00:26:24.540 Right.
00:26:25.100 And brought England to their knees for a while.
00:26:27.280 And we had Carol Roth on the show last week or the week before talking about this guy.
00:26:31.500 Yeah.
00:26:31.680 And her opinion was like, you know, his background, yes, there's problems, but he, you know, I think you can be a little more confident than just saying George Soros employee, right?
00:26:40.900 Like he, she was like, he's actually pretty good.
00:26:43.280 He's actually good.
00:26:43.520 He's come around a little bit, which made me a little more positive.
00:26:45.760 I hope he came around a lot.
00:26:47.380 Yeah.
00:26:47.640 Because that's a long way to travel from George Soros advisor to this.
00:26:51.740 And like, Pat, you know, I just feel like there's gotta be somebody else.
00:26:58.080 Do this job that wasn't ever a George Soros employee?
00:27:00.920 Like, is that a lot to ask?
00:27:02.240 I don't think so, but.
00:27:03.900 It makes me uncomfortable.
00:27:05.140 Yeah, me too.
00:27:05.680 There's a lot of things that make me uncomfortable, Pat.
00:27:08.780 And these nominees, there's a lot of stories like this where I'm just kind of supposed to look past multiple decades of history and just be like, well, everything's fine now.
00:27:19.200 And maybe it is, right?
00:27:20.840 Like I was also really concerned about who Donald Trump would pick as a Supreme Court justice if he was, if he actually became president in 2016.
00:27:31.520 And I think some of those concerns have played out.
00:27:35.980 But I think there's been some decisions by some of these justices that, you know, Kavanaugh, I've had some questions about.
00:27:43.040 Even Coney Barrett at times has been a little.
00:27:45.340 And even Gorsuch, I think, at times has had his issues.
00:27:48.620 That being said, overall, pretty pleased with the way he handled that.
00:27:54.380 In fact, especially considering the Roe versus Wade thing, which you and I said on the air a million times was never going to happen in our lifetimes.
00:28:00.360 And then it did.
00:28:00.780 So I can't.
00:28:03.260 It's possible this is going to work out fine.
00:28:05.160 But I am a little concerned on some of these names and the way that they're coming to us.
00:28:11.860 I just look, he's already been president of the United States.
00:28:15.600 He's he knows these people much better than I do.
00:28:18.540 I'm sure personally.
00:28:19.860 But there's reason for some concern on some of these names.
00:28:24.140 Yeah.
00:28:24.260 And it's not just him.
00:28:25.280 It's I just nominated Dr.
00:28:28.200 Jeanette Nisha Watt as Surgeon General, too.
00:28:31.880 And that's a little controversial because of her stance during covid that she was pretty supportive of of lockdowns and mandatory vaccinations, the masking, the social distancing.
00:28:45.980 She was all over all that stuff.
00:28:47.640 Kind of a normal mainstream media take on a lot of those issues at the time.
00:28:52.820 And so a lot of people who who preferred Trump because, you know, partially because of his skepticism towards some of the main health directives of the covid era.
00:29:04.960 Very concerned about that.
00:29:06.620 You know, I've seen a lot of pushback on her in particular.
00:29:09.920 Now, the one thing I will say about this is we all have to remember, like, what actually happened in 2020, 2021.
00:29:16.940 Right.
00:29:17.140 Like, you know, Donald Trump was president of the United States.
00:29:22.080 He was on stage with Anthony Fauci when they announced 15 days to slow the spread.
00:29:28.860 That was they were standing next to each other when that occurred.
00:29:31.560 Yeah.
00:29:31.680 They weren't they weren't like it wasn't like a, you know, a boxing way in where they had their fists pointed at each other.
00:29:38.380 They they were agreeing to this.
00:29:41.400 I mean, Trump, by all accounts, you know, agree to this.
00:29:44.020 That doesn't mean that he was the left wing, you know, version of what they wanted to happen.
00:29:48.840 Of course, they wanted different things.
00:29:50.820 But obviously, another thing people are highlighting is that she was very positive about the vaccines.
00:29:57.760 And so was he at the time.
00:29:59.120 So was he.
00:29:59.560 And here's the thing.
00:30:00.900 He still is.
00:30:01.500 He still is.
00:30:02.020 He still is.
00:30:03.040 It's true.
00:30:03.580 He's proud of it.
00:30:04.200 He's proud of it.
00:30:04.860 He doesn't say it as much because he's heard from his base that they don't agree.
00:30:08.580 But like Trump is very proud of what he did during that era.
00:30:11.700 Yeah, because he ushered in a vaccine that would normally take 10 years to get done.
00:30:16.760 I remember hearing that it was nine months.
00:30:18.980 Yeah.
00:30:19.220 So he was proud of it.
00:30:20.840 And again, like, you know, Donald Trump was not involved in the day to day scientific development of this,
00:30:25.480 but he was very much involved in the clearing bureaucracy.
00:30:29.880 And funding it.
00:30:30.720 And funding it, pushing it.
00:30:32.500 I mean, like, it was a major part of his effort and probably the thing he's most centrally associated with when it comes to the pandemic response.
00:30:42.760 So to assume that every single nominee in public health is going to look like RFK Jr. is a mistake.
00:30:50.800 He is that's he's not he is closer.
00:30:54.280 He is.
00:30:54.540 He's he's not hurt either.
00:30:56.520 Right.
00:30:56.980 He's he was not.
00:30:57.760 And he was never in favor of long term lockdowns.
00:31:00.100 She was talking about lockdowns in 2021 and saying positive things about him.
00:31:03.480 That's not where Donald Trump was.
00:31:04.740 But like he he is not RFK Jr.
00:31:08.700 On this stuff.
00:31:09.480 Donald Trump.
00:31:10.460 He is proud of what he did during that period.
00:31:13.100 And a lot of people don't like that.
00:31:14.860 They don't like to they don't like to remember that because the alternative to Trump was much, much worse.
00:31:21.020 Yes.
00:31:21.280 A person who wanted to force through unconstitutional mandates.
00:31:25.440 That's not where Trump was.
00:31:26.660 A person who wanted to keep us locked down into 2021 and beyond.
00:31:30.660 And that's not where Trump was.
00:31:32.080 Yeah.
00:31:32.340 I mean, Trump was definitely more on the right side of lockdowns than than many of the public health officials of that era and certainly the media.
00:31:42.820 That being said, you know, I mean, he was it wasn't he every single person is not going to look like RFK Jr.
00:31:49.660 Like, that's just not going to happen.
00:31:50.900 That's not who he is.
00:31:52.020 That's not who Donald Trump is.
00:31:53.520 He's not RFK Jr. on health.
00:31:55.600 No.
00:31:56.240 You know, on some aspects of it, he is.
00:31:58.280 But like, what else is Donald Trump known for?
00:32:01.040 Having McDonald's with a football team in the White House.
00:32:05.200 Like, he's that guy.
00:32:06.600 He's the taco salad guy.
00:32:08.660 Not only that, but having McDonald's with RFK Jr.
00:32:12.960 Yes.
00:32:13.320 On the private plane.
00:32:15.120 So traveling the country.
00:32:16.820 That's Trump.
00:32:17.300 And you could tell that RFK was somewhat uncomfortable with the McDonald's dinner that they were having.
00:32:25.180 Right.
00:32:25.540 And look, RFK Jr., you know, played an important role in the campaign for Trump.
00:32:29.300 And Trump knows that.
00:32:30.220 And he's recognizing it.
00:32:31.640 But like, and I don't think it's the highest priority for Donald Trump.
00:32:35.720 Like, I don't think, you know, Red 40 is the reason Donald Trump wanted to become president.
00:32:41.140 It is the reason that RFK Jr. wanted to become president.
00:32:44.980 So it's really important to RFK.
00:32:46.880 It's not all that important to Donald Trump.
00:32:49.220 And he's saying, you know what?
00:32:50.520 Hey, don't piss off my base.
00:32:52.440 You want to go over there.
00:32:53.620 You want to do what you want to do.
00:32:56.500 I'll let you do what you want to do.
00:32:57.840 Don't step over red lines.
00:32:59.400 I think that's what he's saying to RFK Jr. behind the scenes.
00:33:01.440 They don't agree.
00:33:04.200 And part of the reason you might know this is that RFK Jr. was running for president against Donald Trump three months ago.
00:33:12.160 That's one indication as to why they don't actually agree on all this stuff.
00:33:15.900 They don't.
00:33:16.700 But he's paying him back for a political favor.
00:33:23.280 And we know it's a political favor because RFK Jr. also called Kamala Harris for the same favor.
00:33:29.100 And she didn't return his calls.
00:33:31.840 And he did.
00:33:33.040 And look, that's politics.
00:33:34.280 I'm not overstating that.
00:33:36.500 I mean, it's politics.
00:33:38.620 And Trump is being loyal to someone who helped him in a close election.
00:33:43.880 And that's who he is.
00:33:45.140 Yeah.
00:33:45.640 And it feels like it was a blowout election because Trump won all seven swing states.
00:33:49.420 But remember, he had to win one of those blue wall states.
00:33:51.620 The biggest quote unquote blowout of those three states was 1.6 points.
00:33:57.400 This is a close election.
00:33:59.100 It could have easily gone the other way.
00:34:01.340 He won Wisconsin by less than a point.
00:34:03.900 He won Michigan by a point and a half.
00:34:05.680 He won Pennsylvania by 1.6 or 1.8.
00:34:07.920 It was under two points.
00:34:10.060 So he needed those votes from RFK.
00:34:13.260 It was a smart thing for him to do.
00:34:14.960 It was a dumb thing for Kamala Harris not to call RFK Jr. back.
00:34:19.620 And he's rewarding him with this nomination.
00:34:21.820 And if he oversteps his bounds, that relationship will explode.
00:34:29.480 And it should.
00:34:30.640 Trump shouldn't be putting up with things he doesn't like just because RFK Jr. helped him.
00:34:34.820 Yeah.
00:34:34.980 If he starts dabbling in climate change regulations and all of that stuff, yes, I think that would ruin it.
00:34:41.120 Abortion stuff.
00:34:41.500 It's a big concern.
00:34:42.380 Abortion stuff.
00:34:42.720 Yeah.
00:34:42.920 And Trump.
00:34:43.880 Yeah, because that's supposedly a health issue.
00:34:46.380 Abortion is health care, Pat.
00:34:47.480 Yes, it is.
00:34:48.240 You know, if you go back.
00:34:49.240 Reproductive health care.
00:34:50.160 Yeah.
00:34:50.340 If you go back to the Trump administration the first time, one of the things that he correctly got a bunch of pro-life credit for was going in and going through the regulations in the health department and changing them to more pro-life ends.
00:35:08.840 When it comes to funding, it comes to regulation, how easily the abortion pill can be shipped around the country.
00:35:15.600 All those things are part of what RFK Jr., a person who is absolutely pro-choice and has been his entire life and has talked about abortion all the way up to the ninth month of pregnancy.
00:35:27.060 Yeah.
00:35:27.220 That guy is now going to be in charge of hiring people to implement those regulations.
00:35:31.900 After Trump went out of office, Biden came in and changed all those.
00:35:36.080 Is RFK Jr. going to go in and change them back?
00:35:38.840 I mean, I think there's real reason for skepticism that he's going to do that, and it's going to create a whole nother full-time job for somebody in the Trump administration to oversee what he's doing and who he's hiring.
00:35:50.080 Because you might like the idea of, well, I don't like high fructose corn syrup, and that's great.
00:35:55.920 Of course, the way you solve that is by changing the subsidies, all the money that goes to agricultural subsidies.
00:36:02.380 I don't know.
00:36:03.120 Will they do that?
00:36:03.780 I hope they do, because I wasn't in support of them.
00:36:06.080 It's got nothing to do, honestly.
00:36:07.100 High fructose corn syrup, I don't really care about it, frankly.
00:36:10.560 But I know a lot of people do.
00:36:12.080 The reason why that happens, why it's in your food all over the place, is because we subsidize corn.
00:36:18.320 That's why it's there.
00:36:20.400 If you want, that is a progressive policy, not one that I support.
00:36:24.480 If you do that, if you stop screwing with all these subsidies, you'll get more sugar in your food instead of high fructose corn syrup.
00:36:30.640 That might be something that RFK Jr. really is passionate about.
00:36:34.280 But if he goes on to certain things that he's supported his entire life, global warming, how many times have they said it's a health crisis?
00:36:41.380 Now, do I think he's going to implement a policy that says you can't have oil anymore because of a health crisis?
00:36:46.260 He'll be fired in 12 minutes if he tries that.
00:36:48.560 But he is going to hire thousands of people, and I am concerned about what they're doing in microscopic regulation that we're not even going to notice.
00:37:01.520 That is an issue.
00:37:02.580 We're going to have to watch that really closely.
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00:39:38.500 So we've been talking about some of these nominees and somebody we haven't mentioned yet this morning is Pete Hagseth, who seems to be, I don't know if he's in trouble.
00:39:48.420 I don't know how many senators are thinking they're not going to vote for him.
00:39:53.840 I know that some have said, meh, probably not.
00:39:58.540 I'm thinking about maybe not supporting his nomination.
00:40:02.880 But here's what one of the Fox News contributors had to say about Pete Hagseth.
00:40:09.860 This is interesting.
00:40:10.400 But, Leslie, media had obtained this police report from California authorities from back in 2017 and says, you know, Hagseth, Pete, very drunk.
00:40:18.980 He got into a fight with Jane Doe.
00:40:20.880 That's how she's being referred to, that she repeatedly said no.
00:40:24.340 And a rape kit confirmed the sexual encounter.
00:40:26.760 Again, Pete Hagseth says this was consensual.
00:40:29.800 Well, I dread, dreaded talking about this today.
00:40:36.580 Okay, actually, we don't have time to finish.
00:40:37.940 We'll get this on the other side.
00:40:39.860 It's an interesting tease.
00:40:41.460 Yeah.
00:40:42.340 Fox News contributor, Leslie Marshall.
00:40:45.020 So this had to be somewhat uncomfortable on Fox over the weekend.
00:40:48.100 Yeah, we should talk about this whole story.
00:40:51.500 Yes.
00:40:51.900 Because I don't know if the whole thing adds up.
00:40:54.960 Okay.
00:40:55.620 Interesting.
00:40:56.260 Yeah.
00:40:56.700 We'll get into it coming up.
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00:42:00.980 Fox News contributor Leslie Marshall had some thoughts on Pete Hagseth and his nomination.
00:42:06.900 We'll get to that and discuss it coming up in one minute.
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00:43:24.900 Going over some of the nominees from President-elect Trump.
00:43:30.100 Some of them turning out to be somewhat controversial.
00:43:33.400 This George Soros, former employee, kind of bothers me.
00:43:36.320 Just a bit.
00:43:37.240 Yeah, Elon Musk kind of made a note about this.
00:43:39.500 There was a behind-the-scenes situation where Musk wanted, supposedly, and many others wanted
00:43:46.140 Howard Lutnick to be the...
00:43:48.140 Right, the CEO at...
00:43:50.560 Cantor Fitzgerald.
00:43:51.340 Cantor Fitzgerald, yeah.
00:43:51.880 Wanted him as the Treasury Secretary.
00:43:53.680 He wound up getting the Commerce Secretary gig, or at least the nomination.
00:43:58.440 And Musk kind of publicly said that, and he kind of stuck his neck out, and Trump was like,
00:44:03.160 eh, no.
00:44:04.280 Wow.
00:44:04.540 You don't get to pick for me.
00:44:06.040 I think there's that...
00:44:06.920 That's going to be an interesting dynamic to play out.
00:44:10.160 Because they're getting along well right now, but like, you know, Musk is not used to getting
00:44:15.320 no's from anybody.
00:44:17.720 They seem to be getting along.
00:44:18.860 Hopefully, it continues.
00:44:19.680 I really want this Doge thing to work out.
00:44:21.840 Me too.
00:44:22.420 Me too.
00:44:23.500 It's the thing I'm most excited about, honestly, going into the Trump administration.
00:44:26.660 Maybe before we get into the Hegseth thing, we should go, speaking of the Doge thing, because
00:44:31.220 a lot of support came from an unlikely source over the weekend.
00:44:36.700 Fareed Zakaria says that he's excited about the Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy team at the
00:44:46.880 head of Doge.
00:44:47.980 That's terrible news, Pat.
00:44:49.400 Because if Fareed Zakaria thinks it's good...
00:44:52.040 Completely changes your mind, right?
00:44:53.280 Yes.
00:44:53.440 I'm now opposed to it.
00:44:54.560 He was actually making a little sense, though.
00:44:56.820 Of Donald Trump's recent announcements, the one that intrigues, even excites me the most,
00:45:02.420 is the establishment of Doge, the misnamed Department of Government Efficiency.
00:45:08.160 Misnamed because it is really a non-governmental advisory body that will work with the White
00:45:14.320 House, not any kind of department inside government.
00:45:17.820 Right.
00:45:18.260 Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, who will be in charge of Doge, are both brilliant, and the
00:45:23.420 federal government has clearly become too expansive, and it's writ too cumbersome.
00:45:28.040 Yes.
00:45:28.580 You believe that?
00:45:29.820 Wait.
00:45:30.680 Fareed Zakaria?
00:45:31.280 Coming from you, Fareed?
00:45:32.400 Hello.
00:45:32.700 That's weird.
00:45:33.200 Are you feeling all right?
00:45:34.380 Because, yeah, it's become too expansive.
00:45:37.460 Over 180,000 pages of federal regulations.
00:45:42.160 Surely it's worth taking a close look at them and retiring many.
00:45:45.580 Observers have pointed out that the Doge's efforts will be much harder to achieve than
00:45:51.140 they imagine.
00:45:52.580 Washington may be quite inefficient, but most of what it does is write checks with great
00:45:58.680 efficiency.
00:45:59.700 Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, unemployment insurance, and other mandatory programs make
00:46:06.300 up around 60% of the federal budget.
00:46:09.840 Donald Trump has often said he would protect most of the spending.
00:46:12.980 Next is the Department of Defense at over $800 billion, which has generally been considered
00:46:19.920 untouchable for political reasons, though it is probably the department that most desperately
00:46:24.700 needs to be streamlined.
00:46:26.780 America has four different air forces.
00:46:29.540 The Air Force itself, the Army's Air Force, the Navy's Air Force, and that of the Marines.
00:46:35.640 After the Pentagon comes interest on the debt, also untouchable, which is almost as large
00:46:41.000 as the Pentagon's budget.
00:46:43.080 What is now left is about 15% of the federal budget, which includes certain veterans' benefits,
00:46:49.620 agricultural subsidies, spending on roads and highways, etc.
00:46:53.620 To achieve the $2 trillion spending cuts that Musk has often talked about, he would need
00:46:59.420 to eliminate all of the spending and all of the Pentagon spending, and then he'd still have work to do.
00:47:06.680 Yeah.
00:47:07.360 But I do support the impulse to reform.
00:47:11.140 How about that?
00:47:11.880 Yeah.
00:47:12.360 It doesn't normally happen from commentators on MSNBC or CNN or any network news organization.
00:47:23.040 They're usually very friendly toward government spending.
00:47:27.360 Don't have a problem with it.
00:47:28.680 Of course, neither do Republicans, as a rule.
00:47:31.060 So that's why, to me, this department could be really great.
00:47:37.140 I'm really excited about it and optimistic about it.
00:47:39.640 In fact, it's the thing I'm most excited about.
00:47:41.920 Yeah.
00:47:42.580 Yeah, me too.
00:47:43.300 And, like, I think $2 trillion is not going to happen, most likely.
00:47:49.020 I mean, I'm not that optimistic about it.
00:47:50.980 I would hope that would happen, but that's about a third of the budget.
00:47:53.580 As Zakaria correctly notes there, you're wiping out, like, the Pentagon to get to those levels.
00:48:00.760 And it depends on how you measure it.
00:48:03.200 They'll find a way to maybe justify that.
00:48:05.140 I don't know.
00:48:06.060 But, yeah, probably not going to happen.
00:48:07.960 I don't think it's happened since 1922.
00:48:10.540 Were you saying any cuts at all?
00:48:11.720 Any cuts.
00:48:12.240 Yeah.
00:48:12.360 Certainly not cuts like this, not deep cuts.
00:48:15.700 I mean, we can't even cut 1% of the increase anymore without people going out of their minds and losing elections over it.
00:48:23.300 So ever since Calvin Coolidge took an incredible, not just a surgeon's knife, but he took a chainsaw to the federal budget.
00:48:32.320 It was Michael Myers' machete.
00:48:33.880 It was.
00:48:34.540 Yeah, it was.
00:48:36.180 And we haven't done it since.
00:48:37.660 No.
00:48:38.220 That I can think of.
00:48:39.140 Look, $2 trillion is really tough.
00:48:41.240 I mean, because, first of all, your main levels of spending, the main source of it are these programs that Donald Trump has promised not to cut.
00:48:49.700 Right.
00:48:49.940 And he just mentioned that.
00:48:51.120 Right.
00:48:51.280 So, yeah.
00:48:51.800 And in addition to that, there's the interest on the debt that you have to pay, which is getting larger and larger.
00:48:59.460 And then, of course, things like the military, which he also mentioned, that he doesn't want to cut.
00:49:02.960 So, but that being said, like, what I keep thinking of is, you know, there's these splashy sorts of cuts, like getting rid of the Department of Education, like I really would support.
00:49:13.620 However, difficult, because you need Congress for that.
00:49:17.660 And so, that's going to be difficult.
00:49:19.460 However, like, if you have a program that is supposed to, let's say you have a program that costs a billion dollars and it's supposed to serve a million people doing something.
00:49:26.340 And you can go in there and say, well, half of the cost of this program is staffing.
00:49:32.900 If we cut that staffing by half, we're going to save 25% on this program and we can still serve those million people because that Congress told us we had to serve.
00:49:43.480 And if you can kind of figure that out, you can get major cuts and then you go back to the well and say, okay, if we're reauthorizing this program that Congress wants, we should reauthorize it at these lower spending levels because we just proved to you we can serve these people at these levels.
00:49:58.780 Those types of things are really doable.
00:50:00.520 And, you know, as they point out in their op-ed, this is the Musk-Ramaswamy op-ed, they have a Supreme Court that is really friendly to this idea that you can't just, through an administrative state, do all these things.
00:50:18.100 They write, in West Virginia versus the EPA, this is the 2022 ruling, we made a big deal about this at the time.
00:50:23.020 The justices held that agencies can't impose regulations dealing with major economic or policy questions unless Congress specifically authorizes them to do so.
00:50:31.900 In Loper-Bride versus Raimondo in 2024, the court overturned the Chevron Doctrine and held that federal courts should no longer defer to federal agencies' interpretations of the law or their own rulemaking authority.
00:50:44.900 Together, these cases suggest that a plethora of current federal regulations exceed the authority Congress has granted them under the law.
00:50:52.200 So, they can attack that way.
00:50:54.720 They can't, it's going to be really hard for them to say, well, no more Department of Education.
00:50:59.360 They can recommend that.
00:51:01.260 I mean, Reagan was recommended.
00:51:02.600 Right, but they can't just go in and cut out the Department of Education.
00:51:05.100 They can't do that.
00:51:06.160 You need Congress to do that.
00:51:07.640 But they can make it more efficient.
00:51:09.880 I mean, think about, like, if you look at Twitter and what Elon Musk did at Twitter.
00:51:15.880 Right now, they're a company that has, the government's like Twitter at the beginning.
00:51:23.320 They are serving all these people that want to tweet things.
00:51:25.560 They have all sorts of regulations that mean they're controlling free speech in ways that we're not comfortable with.
00:51:29.900 But they're doing the job of letting everyone get their posts up.
00:51:33.200 Then Musk came in and said, we're going to fire 80% of the staff and we're still going to get your posts up.
00:51:37.060 That all happened.
00:51:38.400 Now, you can criticize parts of the way that Elon Musk did that.
00:51:43.040 And there will be incredible criticism when they make these moves, if they make these moves.
00:51:47.400 Every single mom, every single grandma that has a job and has had a job for 30 years and has no discipline record,
00:51:57.180 you're going to see featured in media.
00:51:59.620 They're going to show them how they now don't have a job.
00:52:02.700 Yep.
00:52:02.820 How they work so hard their entire life for this incredible mission of this government agency and how they helped all these people and now they can't.
00:52:10.340 And they will sob on television.
00:52:12.160 And like, I know it's easy to say, look, this happens.
00:52:17.520 You know, there probably will be good employees that go away.
00:52:20.880 But this, this is, we have to do something.
00:52:23.120 And it's true.
00:52:23.680 But there's going to be a lot of pressure.
00:52:25.620 And if it derails things that are a higher consequence to Trump, it will be difficult for him to do these things.
00:52:31.680 If it hurts his presidency, if he thinks that now I can't get X, Y, and Z done that I want to get done, like on the border or something else,
00:52:38.660 he's going to have to prioritize.
00:52:40.340 It's not going to be an easy path.
00:52:41.900 But it's one I think I'm pretty optimistic about.
00:52:44.200 Yeah, it's, it's an exciting possibility because you mentioned the interest on our debt, which our debt is $35 trillion now.
00:52:54.480 So just the interest on that, I don't know what the interest rate we're paying is, but it's, it's in the trillions, right?
00:53:03.500 Isn't the interest alone about the Pentagon budget or more?
00:53:08.700 In long term, yeah.
00:53:09.780 I think over the, over the long term, it's, it's in the trillions of dollars.
00:53:15.000 I think it's, you know, they usually measure these things over a 10 year period.
00:53:18.200 I want to say it's hundreds of billions a year now.
00:53:20.000 And of course, increasing.
00:53:21.160 Oh yeah.
00:53:21.740 Every single year.
00:53:23.240 So it's just egregious.
00:53:24.880 And it's, it's, you, if we don't get our head around it, if we don't, if we don't do something about it right now,
00:53:32.660 we're in for real trouble.
00:53:35.360 I mean, we haven't seen real trouble until all of this catches up to us.
00:53:41.620 And eventually it will.
00:53:42.860 I mean, through smoke and mirrors, been able to avoid the really big pain that will, will come from this kind of debt.
00:53:50.680 But you can't avoid it forever.
00:53:52.360 And eventually it's going to, it's going to be a house of cards that collapses.
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00:55:41.960 Never have.
00:55:43.020 Me neither.
00:55:45.760 Such a...
00:55:46.400 It's a tradition that none of us have ever actually participated in.
00:55:49.740 Yeah, we all love this song.
00:55:51.880 No one's ever roasted a chestnut, to my knowledge.
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00:55:55.660 Yeah.
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00:56:16.200 Hi.
00:56:16.680 Okay, Fox contributor Leslie Marshall talking about former Fox colleague Pete Hegseth and
00:56:24.440 his nomination.
00:56:25.680 Here's what they had to say.
00:56:27.280 But Leslie, media had obtained this police report from California authorities from...
00:56:31.280 And by the way, this actually happened on Fox News.
00:56:33.760 So this is an interesting discussion about a guy who currently works...
00:56:37.400 Back in 2017, and says, you know, Hegseth, Pete, very drunk.
00:56:42.160 He got into a fight with Jane Doe.
00:56:43.920 That's how she's being referred to.
00:56:45.120 That she repeatedly said no.
00:56:47.380 And a rape kit confirmed the sexual encounter.
00:56:49.780 Again, Pete Hegseth says this was consensual.
00:56:53.980 Yeah, because not only did the rape kit confirm, but as you mentioned, Stu, he confirmed.
00:57:00.200 Yeah, one piece of evidence indicating they had sex is him saying they had sex, and her
00:57:05.080 saying they had sex.
00:57:06.800 So, again, they have differences on how that occurred, and whether it was consensual or
00:57:13.200 not.
00:57:13.460 But there apparently was an event.
00:57:15.020 Yeah.
00:57:15.420 Yeah, so.
00:57:17.860 I dreaded talking about this today.
00:57:22.100 I met Pete a long time ago.
00:57:24.180 We spent middle of the night waiting to go on during 2016, before the election, and I
00:57:31.600 like him as a person, with all due respect to my former colleague.
00:57:36.820 We know that there were three cases of adultery for Pete Hegseth, and it is relevant.
00:57:41.360 And the reason why it's relevant is Article 134 of the UCMJ considers adultery against the
00:57:48.960 military, which the Department of Defense is part of.
00:57:52.040 You can't lead an entire organization and all these people if you can't lead, by example,
00:57:58.320 one.
00:57:58.800 Two, I am a rape victim, and I can tell you there's a reason one in ten rapes go unreported.
00:58:05.460 And it's very difficult for a woman to go in and have a rape kit done.
00:58:10.980 It's physically, mentally, and emotionally very difficult to go through that process, as I
00:58:16.600 have, and I can tell you that, just very personal and in my deep core, somebody doesn't do that
00:58:25.540 with their husband and their kids in the hotel, texting their husband.
00:58:29.840 Somebody doesn't go into the hospital and subject yourself to that.
00:58:34.640 And I have to say, I, as a woman and as a victim, I believe the victims.
00:58:40.540 And this is a problem for me, the sexual impropriety.
00:58:43.320 And then on top of that, although Pete has an incredible military career, he doesn't have
00:58:49.060 the leadership career in the military that I feel the Department of Defense requires as
00:58:54.940 their head.
00:58:55.680 So I don't know what happened between these two, but for her to say that it's unlikely
00:59:02.200 for her to do the rape kit because her husband and kids were in a different hotel room when
00:59:06.620 this supposedly occurred, to me, that almost might make it more likely.
00:59:12.860 Because if it happened and there was a consensual encounter.
00:59:18.700 It's a life-destroying event.
00:59:20.480 Yeah.
00:59:21.480 Yeah.
00:59:21.780 With your husband in another hotel room in the same hotel.
00:59:25.520 And if you actually did this with Pete Hague, Seth, and obviously they did, but it's, you
00:59:30.560 know, was it consensual or not?
00:59:32.000 If it was consensual, you certainly wouldn't want to want your husband to know that.
00:59:38.000 Right.
00:59:38.180 I mean, if, if he, if the answer to, if this event comes to light in some way and your
00:59:45.040 excuse is, well, I just slept with another man in a hotel while you were sleeping in another
00:59:49.960 room.
00:59:50.320 Like there's just, I don't know if there's any coming back from that, right?
00:59:52.940 Yeah.
00:59:53.380 So that does not mean this doesn't happen.
00:59:55.840 Right.
00:59:56.080 Like we weren't there.
00:59:56.800 We don't know.
00:59:57.600 But like it, you would think because of the way this played out, there'd be more likely
01:00:04.740 to come up with an alternative explanation.
01:00:07.000 That doesn't mean that that's what she did.
01:00:08.980 We don't know.
01:00:09.820 But it, it's not out of the question.
01:00:12.880 We don't, believing all women is dumb.
01:00:17.080 I, it doesn't mean that you wouldn't be right.
01:00:19.580 A lot of times you would, if you believe women.
01:00:21.320 And I think it's true, like Pat, I think part of what she said is true.
01:00:24.880 You don't just go in to have a rape kit done for fun.
01:00:27.760 Right.
01:00:28.060 Like it's not, it's not fun.
01:00:29.200 It's got to be a horrific experience in every way possible.
01:00:33.440 Yes.
01:00:34.260 So, you know, but like we're talking, when, when faced with a decision, by the way, multiple
01:00:39.880 days after this happened, like after this, after this encounter occurred, she waited,
01:00:44.920 I think five days to go to the police.
01:00:48.140 I don't know what that means.
01:00:49.380 I mean, I, I, every time you bring up something and you question a detail like that, people
01:00:53.160 say, well, you don't understand.
01:00:54.240 This has never happened.
01:00:54.920 You thank God it hasn't happened to me.
01:00:56.400 I don't know.
01:00:57.200 So I, I'm sure the, the, it's, it brings a series of impossible decisions.
01:01:03.880 But that being said, if you are five days after this and, and you, you are faced with
01:01:09.620 the basically destruction of your entire life.
01:01:13.140 If you have, if you're a parent, if you're a wife, like your entire person life is about
01:01:18.620 to explode.
01:01:19.580 There are def, I'm not saying this woman is one of them, but there are definitely people
01:01:24.220 in the world who would choose incorrectly and come up with a false story.
01:01:29.780 And under those circumstances, it is, it is not something you can rule out.
01:01:33.400 You can't believe all women.
01:01:35.260 You can't believe all anything.
01:01:37.180 Right.
01:01:37.740 You, you, you believe you, you judge stories individually based on their merit.
01:01:41.880 That's what you do.
01:01:42.640 You don't believe all blank.
01:01:45.120 That's dumb.
01:01:46.820 Like we've done that before, right?
01:01:48.500 Like we used to, I mean, there are societies on earth right now that believe all men every
01:01:53.600 single time.
01:01:54.720 That's a dumb approach.
01:01:56.720 You don't believe people based on their genitals.
01:01:59.620 And you know what?
01:02:00.720 Women who say that don't believe it either because Hillary Clinton was one of the first
01:02:05.100 believe all women.
01:02:05.980 Well, I believe, do you?
01:02:07.080 Do you?
01:02:07.360 Really?
01:02:07.740 What about the ones accusing your husband of rape?
01:02:09.560 Uh, what about, yeah.
01:02:10.480 What about her?
01:02:11.160 You believe her?
01:02:11.980 Yeah.
01:02:12.140 You believe her?
01:02:12.800 No, you don't.
01:02:13.520 Of course not.
01:02:13.840 So, and believe me, women know more than anybody that women at times act this way.
01:02:19.860 Every time I bring one of these stories up, I have many women in my life that go like,
01:02:23.800 oh gosh, I knew this girl in college who did this and this and this.
01:02:26.600 And like, there's a lot of those stories out there.
01:02:28.760 They're not pleasant.
01:02:29.560 None of this stuff is pleasant.
01:02:30.580 I mean, I like, I, it's not a good story, no matter how you cut it.
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01:04:43.000 Let's go to Donna in Louisiana.
01:04:47.000 Hey, Donna.
01:04:47.660 You're on the Glenn Beck program.
01:04:48.980 Hi.
01:04:49.860 Hi.
01:04:50.820 I want to talk to you about Pete's accuser.
01:04:53.980 She is like the worst kind of despicable Me Too woman accuser.
01:05:00.280 And I watched the Megyn Kelly show on this topic, and I wish you could have her on to discuss it because she went point by point through the police reports and everything.
01:05:12.340 She said she was given a date rape drug, and there are witnesses saying that she was totally fine, that saw her in the bar and then the hotel employees.
01:05:28.060 And Pete was the one that was intoxicated.
01:05:30.700 And they say she was the aggressor.
01:05:32.440 He wasn't.
01:05:33.020 Her husband was right in the same hotel looking for her at 2 o'clock in the morning when this supposedly happened.
01:05:39.160 So I wish you could just take a look at Megyn's interview and talk to her, have her on to discuss this because this woman is horrible, which she did.
01:05:51.340 Yeah, I did hear actually Megyn's rundown of this, and it was, as you point out, excellent.
01:05:55.960 She really, I mean, she went line by line on this.
01:05:58.860 And as she noted, she doesn't know everything that happened in that room.
01:06:02.620 Of course, none of us do.
01:06:04.220 But there is real reason for skepticism on the story.
01:06:06.800 I was trying to convey that a little bit.
01:06:08.520 By the way, I'll be on with Megyn today.
01:06:10.720 She's not coming on our show, but I am going on her show today.
01:06:13.980 So that'll be, we've got a lot of stuff to talk about.
01:06:16.600 A lot of these new nominees and this Hegseth thing, I think, is an issue, too.
01:06:20.740 And as Megyn pointed out as well at the beginning of all that, you know, the personal life stuff for Pete is suboptimal.
01:06:29.160 Yeah.
01:06:29.400 You know, it's not great.
01:06:30.340 You kind of wish we'd have the ability to find people who can do these things and not have, you know, multiple affairs on wives and not have a George Soros connection going back many years.
01:06:48.920 And I will point out, if you happen to be someone who's concerned about this type of thing, blowing everyone out of the water when it comes to numbers, when it comes to really bad personal life stuff, RFK Jr.
01:07:02.520 Top of the list.
01:07:03.440 Number one, every single person you know has a lower number of times they cheated on their wife or husband than good old RFK Jr.
01:07:13.360 And with really devastating, I mean, life and death type circumstances when it comes to the RFK Jr. situation.
01:07:20.240 I think we all kind of recognize that people make mistakes and Washington's a messy place and it seems like nobody in the entire area can stay loyal to their spouse for any period of time.
01:07:32.800 But it would be nice if we could hit standards that were a little higher than this.
01:07:36.940 I mean, we used to aim for them.
01:07:39.080 Yes.
01:07:39.840 I mean, yes, that's true.
01:07:42.180 And I hope it didn't.
01:07:43.680 Did we give the impression that we were fully on board with the accusations of the woman against Pete Hegseth?
01:07:51.580 I don't think so.
01:07:52.960 I'm pretty skeptical.
01:07:54.340 We're both skeptical to begin with, even without having Megan on.
01:07:57.100 Yeah.
01:07:57.580 Although that would be fine.
01:08:00.040 I'd love to have Megan on, of course.
01:08:00.720 But, again, you'll be on her show today.
01:08:02.800 So that's something to look forward to as well.
01:08:05.460 But we, I mean, I'm skeptical.
01:08:07.560 I don't know.
01:08:08.320 I wasn't there.
01:08:09.380 But he certainly, I.
01:08:12.140 The story doesn't really add up.
01:08:13.100 It doesn't.
01:08:13.500 It really doesn't.
01:08:14.360 There's a lot of inconsistencies.
01:08:16.940 And, you know, again, you don't know because you weren't there.
01:08:19.940 But, like, we do know, obviously, the very basics of it because, you know, Pete's talked about it.
01:08:24.660 And, you know, he's had these issues.
01:08:26.100 And he's not the only one in Washington that's had them.
01:08:30.600 And he has a lot of other really great qualifications for this gig.
01:08:33.980 And I don't know.
01:08:34.560 What's your impression?
01:08:35.520 Like, I was very skeptical that Gates would ever get through.
01:08:38.720 Yeah, I was, too.
01:08:39.640 Not only was he.
01:08:41.860 He had some things where I could understand why Trump went after him in this role because he wanted a bulldog.
01:08:46.320 That being said, I think Pam Bondi will also be a bulldog for him and is much more qualified for the job.
01:08:52.740 And everyone in Washington doesn't hate her.
01:08:55.660 Like, that's kind of where Gates is.
01:08:57.600 You know, like, he has a lot of enemies in Washington.
01:09:00.940 You might say that's a positive.
01:09:02.260 But when you're going through a confirmation process, it's very difficult.
01:09:05.020 Yeah, it is.
01:09:05.820 But he's so plain spoken.
01:09:08.120 And he's got some giblets that he's willing to use.
01:09:14.360 And he says things like this when people confront him.
01:09:17.400 Is it safe to say that based off of your comments, you're suggesting that these women at these abortion rallies are ugly and overweight?
01:09:23.740 Yes.
01:09:24.740 What do you say to people who think that those comments are offensive?
01:09:27.780 Be offended.
01:09:29.320 It's that kind of thing.
01:09:31.320 You like that?
01:09:31.900 That draws you to Matt Gates because he doesn't care.
01:09:36.000 I don't care what you think of it.
01:09:37.080 I'm just going to tell you where I stand.
01:09:40.260 And I like that.
01:09:41.260 I do like that.
01:09:41.840 And I think that's one of the things people like about Trump so much.
01:09:44.920 Sure.
01:09:45.480 He's very Trump-ish.
01:09:47.040 Yeah, he is.
01:09:48.060 He is.
01:09:48.600 But he's got some issues, too.
01:09:50.160 Yeah, he's got some issues.
01:09:51.720 That's one way of stating it.
01:09:53.380 Yeah.
01:09:53.540 And I think, like, you can have all of the goodness of a clip like that with him being on Fox News or him having a position with Trump where a confirmation is not necessary.
01:10:07.120 Yeah.
01:10:07.380 Right?
01:10:07.740 Like, you know, I mean, he could be a White House counsel and do all that stuff.
01:10:11.080 Sure.
01:10:11.300 Right?
01:10:11.480 Like, you're going to get that.
01:10:12.300 And probably will be.
01:10:12.840 Yeah.
01:10:13.300 Pam Bondi did this job already.
01:10:15.440 She already was an attorney general of a major state.
01:10:18.240 She knows how to do the job.
01:10:19.940 And she's not going to have, I don't think, these types of problems when it comes to confirmation.
01:10:25.700 Yeah.
01:10:26.060 And there's going to be enough fights as it is to get these people nominated or confirmed.
01:10:31.700 So the reason I started that with Gates was I wanted to see what's your take on, do you think Hegseth right now got under your head?
01:10:37.900 Do you think he gets through?
01:10:39.400 I don't think so.
01:10:40.540 No.
01:10:40.740 I don't think so.
01:10:41.920 I mean, I want him to, but I don't think he will.
01:10:45.200 I don't think they have.
01:10:46.880 I don't think the Senate will have the giblets necessary to confirm him.
01:10:51.300 We'll see.
01:10:52.800 Yeah.
01:10:53.180 I could definitely see it going either way.
01:10:57.200 From the beginning, I kind of felt like he would get through.
01:10:59.940 I don't, I feel like there's been so many false or questionable accusations that, like, Trump, I think, looks at this and, like, he's been accused, I think, falsely many times of this type of stuff.
01:11:12.260 And I think he, you know, he's going to probably err on the side of saying, look, if it's someone he likes and someone he believes and trusts, and obviously he is that person if he named him in the first place, I think he's going to probably take his word for it and believe it.
01:11:26.280 I think, you know, he's been on the wrong side of a lot of these false accusations, and he can, I'm sure, see that.
01:11:32.660 The question is whether Congress or senators are going to get to that level.
01:11:36.820 It also depends on whether he does a recess, a recess confirmation or not.
01:11:41.060 Yeah, the recess appointment thing is, you know, a whole nother, you know.
01:11:45.180 Then you're going to have other issues to deal with.
01:11:47.940 Right.
01:11:48.320 And so I don't know.
01:11:49.260 I mean, because, you know, to get the recess appointment, you also are going to basically need to get all these senators on board for it.
01:11:54.600 I mean, because they're going to go on recess.
01:11:56.400 You're going to need those votes.
01:11:58.440 It's going to be hard to get those to go on recess, too.
01:12:01.400 So, look, it's a complicated path.
01:12:03.500 And I think there is truth, though, to the fact that senators are not going to, Republican senators are not going to say no to him like 12 times.
01:12:11.060 Like, they're going to pick and choose here.
01:12:13.440 And Gates was one.
01:12:15.300 You know, RFK Jr. might be one.
01:12:17.500 I don't think Pam Bondi is going to be one.
01:12:19.620 Hegseth might be one.
01:12:21.600 You know, Tulsi Gabbard is another one.
01:12:23.180 You know, Tulsi Gabbard is, and I like Tulsi, but, like, she is a person who really runs against the grain of, like, traditional Republican foreign relations.
01:12:36.940 And proudly she does that.
01:12:38.820 And she's closer to Trump, I think, than traditional Republican foreign relations in a lot of ways.
01:12:45.300 That being said, there's a lot of Republican opposition to her, too.
01:12:48.180 And maybe you get some Democrat support for her.
01:12:51.620 I don't know.
01:12:52.720 Yeah.
01:12:53.020 Well, you know, that might be the way to get that through.
01:12:55.560 All right.
01:12:56.220 Christy in Alabama.
01:12:57.860 Hi.
01:12:58.200 You're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Stu.
01:13:01.300 Hi.
01:13:01.740 Good morning, Pat and Stu.
01:13:02.940 Thank you so much for taking my call.
01:13:06.040 With everything else going on, with all the excitement of the new administration, the one thing I am the most excited about that I'm with you guys is the Doge program.
01:13:13.900 Yes.
01:13:14.240 I grew up in the Mid-Atlantic in Maryland.
01:13:17.800 I grew up between Baltimore and D.C.
01:13:20.740 So I saw firsthand growing up the unbelievable salaries and the job opportunities for people who were in the federal government.
01:13:31.020 And they basically could never get fired.
01:13:33.800 And they retire with these unbelievable golden parachutes that we are paying for as taxpayers.
01:13:40.900 Honestly, every American should be upset about this.
01:13:43.300 My father was a small business owner.
01:13:46.580 And he used to always say, you get so frustrated, you know, that someone needs to come in and run the government like a business.
01:13:53.400 And I finally feel that we are at this point.
01:13:55.840 I mean, the bloat and the overspending and everything in that area, in the Mid-Atlantic, I'm talking about Maryland and Northern Virginia as well.
01:14:05.220 There's a part of Baltimore that's called security because Social Security is so huge there.
01:14:10.520 I mean, they named a part of Baltimore because of this.
01:14:13.600 It was pretty sad.
01:14:16.800 I mean, it was very sad.
01:14:18.880 In fact, that if you wanted a good job in that area, you applied it to federal government.
01:14:25.040 And that should be telling all of us something.
01:14:27.580 So I am so excited about this.
01:14:29.760 I cannot wait to see.
01:14:30.980 I think they're doing something with a sort of a ledger kind of a thing that we're going to be able to see online.
01:14:37.500 But anyway, as I said, as an American, I am so excited about this.
01:14:43.380 And honestly, it's about time.
01:14:44.840 It's about time to happen.
01:14:46.440 It is really exciting.
01:14:47.380 Thanks, Christy.
01:14:48.080 And, you know, the picture going forward is so bleak.
01:14:51.620 Yeah.
01:14:52.160 I mean, if you look forward and we take our current policies, right, we don't come up with any new ideas to spend money, which, of course, we're going to.
01:15:01.180 There's no new infrastructure plans.
01:15:03.420 There's none of that.
01:15:04.060 It's just current policy.
01:15:05.580 If you project that into the future, we don't come up with any new wars, no foreign conflicts where we can get involved in, no new Ukraine situations that we're dumping.
01:15:15.000 Everything you've outlined here is impossible.
01:15:17.000 Impossible.
01:15:17.460 All of that.
01:15:17.980 None of that's going to happen.
01:15:18.960 But if you just keep normal policy right now, by the time 2050 rolls around, our net interest on the debt, just the interest on the debt, is going to be three times our Defense Department in wars, the cost when it comes to a percentage of GDP.
01:15:36.260 9%.
01:15:36.620 That's almost as much as the biggest chunk, which is Social Security and health entitlements, which is going to be 14.3%.
01:15:43.180 Now, of course, no one wants to cut that.
01:15:45.880 There's really no appetite for it anywhere.
01:15:47.760 The last time anyone even looked at it was probably the Paul Ryan days, which got rejected, right?
01:15:52.120 So you're at, like, now, that's 23% of GDP.
01:15:56.280 I mean, that is more, that's basically what we have right now, our current debt situation, not including the Defense Department, not including other entitlements, not including non-defense discretionary spending.
01:16:06.720 And this is catastrophic going forward.
01:16:10.880 And that's only if we get lucky and interest rates don't go up and we don't have any new programs.
01:16:17.600 Like, you're telling me no one's going to have a new idea to spend your money in the next 30 years?
01:16:21.700 Again, that's impossible.
01:16:23.460 You know what's going to happen.
01:16:24.720 So it's going to be far worse than that is what that comes down to.
01:16:29.200 Far worse.
01:16:30.040 Far worse.
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01:18:18.080 This might be the toughest one to make the transition out of.
01:18:21.300 This might be the most difficult one.
01:18:24.140 That's a good point.
01:18:25.480 That's a good point.
01:18:26.280 This is Glenn's all-time favorite Christmas song, I think.
01:18:28.660 Yeah, he loves it.
01:18:29.780 He loves it.
01:18:31.520 And she's got an incredible voice.
01:18:34.260 It's a great album.
01:18:36.160 Excited about it.
01:18:36.800 It comes out Friday.
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01:18:39.260 And you can get it wherever you stream your music.
01:18:41.100 I'm sure there's probably other ways as well.
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01:18:48.320 It's not like you have to search it out to some other way.
01:18:50.040 It'll be right in the middle of all the other Christmas music you're listening to.
01:18:52.960 So put it in the rotation for Cheyenne, for Glenn, for your holiday enjoyment.
01:18:58.000 All right.
01:18:58.460 Let's go to Larry in Illinois.
01:19:00.800 Hey, Larry, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Stu.
01:19:03.660 Yes.
01:19:04.220 We used to be called Illinois.
01:19:05.700 No, I think now we're going to be called Pritzker Stan because he said we are his people.
01:19:12.200 Anyway, I want to tell you what's going on in Cornfield County here.
01:19:16.520 We have people are being scared to death.
01:19:19.300 The Chicken Littles are running around saying, well, if Trump goes and collects all the illegal aliens,
01:19:24.860 there won't be anybody left to work in the packing plants.
01:19:27.520 And I asked them, I said, well, who do you think worked in them before the illegal aliens did?
01:19:32.760 Then you have to ask another question.
01:19:34.820 How many packing plants are in New York City?
01:19:37.980 Duh, none.
01:19:39.500 I said, are there a lot of illegal aliens there?
01:19:41.740 Yeah.
01:19:42.180 And I named all these different cities where the illegal aliens are an issue.
01:19:45.860 I said, I don't think there was a packing plant in any of those.
01:19:49.900 But when you have, I'm going to call it Democrats because they're the ones spreading this stupidity.
01:19:56.020 And they go and they try to tell everybody the sky is falling when Trump gets in office.
01:20:00.520 They've even got it to the point now where Trump, instead of taking office on January 20th, will be taking office on January 1st.
01:20:10.340 Where are they getting that?
01:20:11.800 I have no idea.
01:20:13.480 I will tell you this.
01:20:16.000 I grew up around here.
01:20:18.120 I used to have jokes about, you know, that's the guy who's standing there picking his nose with a broom handle and, you know, one set of teeth per family.
01:20:25.400 But there are wealthy people that believe this foolishness.
01:20:31.000 And it's more and more difficult because they're in the business of raising the food that we eat.
01:20:37.920 And they're scared that Trump's going to ruin the economy and he's going to ruin the farms.
01:20:43.560 I said, well, have Democrats done anything for farmers?
01:20:47.020 Well, of course, you're met with total silence.
01:20:49.480 Yeah, of course.
01:20:50.480 Yeah.
01:20:51.360 It's hard to ruin an economy that's already been ruined.
01:20:54.420 Appreciate it.
01:20:55.060 Thanks, Larry.
01:20:55.600 Yeah.
01:20:56.680 But I haven't heard the rumor that Trump takes office January 1st.
01:21:03.380 No, I haven't heard that yet.
01:21:04.340 Not heard that.
01:21:05.160 I will say I do want to thank Jordan Peterson for calling in because he had – was he a Jordan Peterson impersonator?
01:21:11.520 Did you notice that?
01:21:13.860 Larry, you've got a future.
01:21:15.580 You talk about economy.
01:21:16.580 I mean, I don't know how many gigs there are for Jordan Peterson impersonators, but yours is – you're going to nail one of those gigs if they're out there.
01:21:26.200 It's a fascinating time.
01:21:27.360 People on the left are paranoid right now.
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01:22:43.720 Eric Schmidt, former CEO at Google, was just speaking at Princeton.
01:22:48.420 Had some really interesting things to say about AI.
01:22:51.220 We'll get into that coming up in one minute.
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01:24:10.540 So former Google CEO Eric Schmidt spoke at his alma mater, Princeton, over the weekend.
01:24:16.600 He's got a book coming out called Genesis, Artificial Intelligence, Hope, and the Human Spirit.
01:24:23.460 And so he said over the weekend,
01:24:26.340 I can assure you that the humans in the rest of the world, all the normal people,
01:24:31.940 because you are all not normal, sorry to say, you're special in some way.
01:24:36.740 Well, sure, they're at an elite university.
01:24:39.740 So they're not little people like we are.
01:24:42.800 Right.
01:24:43.140 They're special people.
01:24:44.200 Ew.
01:24:44.800 Regular little people?
01:24:46.360 Ew.
01:24:47.080 I mean, you don't even want to think about those people.
01:24:49.400 No.
01:24:49.640 But he said the normal people are not ready.
01:24:54.980 Their governments are not ready.
01:24:57.720 The government processes are not ready.
01:25:00.860 The doctrines are not ready.
01:25:02.500 They're not ready for the arrival of this.
01:25:06.340 He's been advising the U.S. government and military on technology for years, including AI.
01:25:12.120 In 2016, he chaired the Defense Innovation Board, which advises the Defense Department,
01:25:19.480 and chaired the U.S. National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence in 2018.
01:25:25.140 More recently, he founded White Stork, which is a startup that builds AI attack drones.
01:25:31.780 Did you know he was doing this?
01:25:32.800 No.
01:25:34.060 AI attack drones.
01:25:35.720 I had no idea.
01:25:36.700 But he said that the war in Ukraine has turned him into an arms dealer.
01:25:43.480 Interesting.
01:25:44.880 But his vision and concern for AI extends beyond the battlefield.
01:25:50.080 He said that a child's best friend could be not human in the future, which could present problems.
01:25:57.160 Yeah.
01:25:57.540 What are the rules, he asked?
01:25:58.700 Is it okay that it's the equivalent of Mark Zuckerberg as just the surrogate parent
01:26:03.380 who gets to decide what your child learns and doesn't learn?
01:26:07.720 Yeah, that would be an issue for me.
01:26:09.200 Really?
01:26:09.720 In what way?
01:26:10.560 Why would that?
01:26:11.520 Because you don't have to do it then.
01:26:12.780 You don't have to think about it, you know?
01:26:14.160 Just let Mark handle it, right?
01:26:16.440 I'm not sure that's ideal, though.
01:26:17.980 No?
01:26:18.440 As you would say, it might be considered, at least for me, suboptimal.
01:26:22.440 Really?
01:26:23.040 Yeah.
01:26:23.420 That's a strong statement.
01:26:24.660 Yeah.
01:26:26.160 So that should be a concern to, I think, all of us.
01:26:29.420 On this note, Pat, I was reading a Twitter thread of a guy who's talking about, he's
01:26:35.860 like, yeah, I just watched my son or eight-year-old son have a 45-minute conversation with the
01:26:43.220 new chat GPT audio feature.
01:26:47.300 And he was asking questions about how the Earth was formed and all these basic scientific
01:26:54.080 questions.
01:26:54.640 And he's like, and the AI was explaining these things perfectly to an eight-year-old, you
01:27:00.800 know, exactly the way you should.
01:27:02.220 And he knew all the answers, but also was explaining it the right way to this kid.
01:27:06.340 And he's like, it was just incredible.
01:27:07.720 And it made me think of how bright the future is going to be.
01:27:10.720 And what was the right way to explain it?
01:27:14.620 You know, like using analogies a kid would understand, right?
01:27:17.240 Like that's one thing like chat GPT is really good at.
01:27:19.400 I mean, completely without a divine entity, right?
01:27:24.140 I mean, does the...
01:27:24.960 Oh, what the answer was on that particular question.
01:27:27.040 It didn't go into...
01:27:27.720 I was using that as an example.
01:27:29.360 I don't even remember if that was the exact topic.
01:27:31.620 Okay.
01:27:31.900 But it was something, some basic scientific question.
01:27:34.760 And the kids have like their innocent questions, you know, and like the AI understood what they
01:27:41.640 were going for and tried to rephrase it and push them in the right direction.
01:27:44.280 And he was framing it as this like incredible thing.
01:27:46.240 And I was like, is it...
01:27:48.760 Yeah, I know.
01:27:49.480 Is it 45-minute conversation between a child and an...
01:27:53.600 And a computer.
01:27:54.120 And an AI device, like really what we want?
01:27:57.820 I mean, yes.
01:27:58.380 I don't think so.
01:27:59.320 It probably will improve...
01:28:02.120 Certain aspects of life.
01:28:02.860 Certain aspects of education.
01:28:04.820 And like, it probably will.
01:28:06.160 But man, that's a scary...
01:28:08.200 I just kept thinking of like, why is this kid going to grow up and care about regular
01:28:15.080 people if what they...
01:28:16.800 They're used to having every answer given to them by this, you know, automated device.
01:28:21.700 Right.
01:28:21.900 I don't know.
01:28:22.580 Right.
01:28:23.040 I wonder what road we're setting people in our next generations down right now.
01:28:27.680 I do too.
01:28:28.160 And there's contrasting points of view here from Eric Schmidt.
01:28:32.980 But like this Stephanie von Guttenberg from Digital Education.
01:28:38.500 She's a digital education activist.
01:28:41.700 She says that as this can be a game changer in our time, it's poised to revolutionize industries,
01:28:50.740 streamline everyday processes, and fundamentally alter our lives.
01:28:55.940 But she says, let's face it.
01:28:58.700 The conversation around AI swings wildly between extremes.
01:29:01.880 It's either the solution to all our problems or the precursor to our doom.
01:29:06.960 But the truth is, as it often does, the truth lies somewhere in between.
01:29:12.540 Sure, AI has made incredible progress, especially in areas like language processing and image
01:29:18.120 recognition.
01:29:18.920 However, its impact has been uneven and sometimes underwhelming.
01:29:23.860 Take customer service bots, for instance.
01:29:26.620 Despite all the hype, many of these bots still struggle with complex questions and often leave
01:29:32.660 us yearning for a human touch.
01:29:35.260 And remember, all those predictions about autonomous vehicles taking over our roads,
01:29:39.900 we're still grappling with safety and regulatory challenges that keep them from becoming a common
01:29:44.780 sight.
01:29:45.240 No, it is happening.
01:29:47.300 It's starting to more and more.
01:29:48.800 And I think AI is improving the ability for cars to drive autonomously.
01:29:53.880 Yeah.
01:29:54.020 If you know someone who owns a Tesla, they're telling you about this every 12 seconds.
01:29:58.560 Like, they're kind of like, I got a new update in my car.
01:30:02.080 Now it could be self-driving.
01:30:03.720 All right.
01:30:04.140 All right.
01:30:04.580 Thank you.
01:30:05.740 Are they confident enough, though, to let the car drive itself?
01:30:09.500 I think so.
01:30:10.200 I think those early adopters are.
01:30:13.660 You know, you have to be kind of willing to be an early adopter to really get into that.
01:30:18.240 But I have a friend who lives in Colorado and came all the way to Texas on his recent
01:30:22.600 visit and barely touched the steering wheel.
01:30:25.260 He's like, he just got the update that you no longer have to engage with the wheel.
01:30:30.980 I think they watch your eyes.
01:30:32.780 Like, there's a camera on your eyes to make sure your eyes are following the road and you're
01:30:35.560 not just falling asleep.
01:30:36.420 Um, but you don't, the newest Tesla update has that.
01:30:40.980 Waymo, which is the completely, you know, it's a taxi company that is completely without
01:30:45.660 driver.
01:30:46.300 I've seen them when I was in Phoenix on vacation and like one just pulled up.
01:30:49.160 You're like, what the hell?
01:30:50.820 It's so weird.
01:30:52.200 No driver, empty car, open the door, you get in, drives away, empty car.
01:30:57.780 Like it is fully 100% automated.
01:31:01.520 And they are now up to 150,000 rides a week.
01:31:05.120 Like, wow.
01:31:07.460 They're just expanding to Atlanta as the newest city they're going into.
01:31:11.340 And they're doing this.
01:31:11.920 Are they in Dallas?
01:31:12.260 Are they in the Metroplex here?
01:31:13.320 No.
01:31:13.820 No.
01:31:13.960 I think it's Phoenix.
01:31:15.080 I want to say maybe it's LA.
01:31:17.180 There's three or four major cities I think they're in now, but 150,000 rides a week already.
01:31:22.600 And it's cheaper.
01:31:23.100 That's crazy.
01:31:23.980 It's cheaper than going with a driver.
01:31:25.780 Yeah.
01:31:26.260 So how long?
01:31:27.720 I mean, you know, I think.
01:31:29.120 Well, you're taking your life in your hands.
01:31:30.240 It should be a little bit cheaper.
01:31:32.300 But of course, the statistics, you know, I mean, they can point to real statistics.
01:31:36.580 Like, I want to say, I was just listening to a podcast on this, but they were talking about
01:31:40.980 the average, like, fatal accident caused by, like, human error is one every 100 million
01:31:47.860 miles.
01:31:49.000 Okay.
01:31:49.500 So, you know, that's a lot.
01:31:53.460 Obviously, there's so many cars on the road.
01:31:54.880 And so 100 million miles, you know.
01:31:57.000 Sounds like a lot, but it's not that much.
01:31:58.740 Yeah.
01:31:59.040 I mean, it's a lot.
01:31:59.920 It's, you know, it's a relatively safe.
01:32:01.640 Obviously, you drive every day to work back and forth.
01:32:03.520 You don't get in fatal accidents all that often.
01:32:05.700 Yeah.
01:32:06.460 That's a good thing.
01:32:07.860 And so far, I think the Waymo vehicles have done something like 30 million miles total
01:32:14.080 with no fatal accidents.
01:32:15.700 So they haven't hit that full standard, but they believe they will.
01:32:20.060 And, you know, I mean, they probably will.
01:32:23.720 I think statistically, I mean, look at the people you drive next to.
01:32:26.900 I mean, this is not a mystery to anyone who commutes.
01:32:30.020 There's people who aren't paying attention.
01:32:31.680 They're looking at their phones.
01:32:32.700 Like, probably this wind up, this will wind up being better than human drivers.
01:32:37.860 There's people who text while they drive.
01:32:39.600 Constantly.
01:32:40.280 Yeah.
01:32:40.620 Not smart.
01:32:41.880 I drive by people all the time.
01:32:43.040 You glance over at them.
01:32:43.900 All the time.
01:32:43.980 They're looking down at their phones.
01:32:45.040 Yeah.
01:32:45.360 And they're swerving into your lane.
01:32:48.420 It happens.
01:32:49.020 Yeah, it does.
01:32:49.420 You know?
01:32:49.880 And while these things aren't perfect, they probably will have a better safety record at
01:32:55.580 the end.
01:32:55.760 Interesting.
01:32:56.520 Interesting.
01:32:56.920 Um, but there are, there are people who are saying that maybe the AI thing is a little
01:33:03.160 overestimated.
01:33:03.940 Um, this MIT economist, Darren Asimoglu, uh, he says he doesn't think that AI will revolutionize
01:33:12.240 our economy in the next 10 years.
01:33:13.760 Where, where are you?
01:33:14.780 Where do you stand on this?
01:33:15.660 Do you think AI is pretty, going to be pretty dominant, pretty revolutionary, or is it overestimated?
01:33:22.340 Because I think Glenn thinks it's going to be pretty impactful.
01:33:27.680 Oh, yeah.
01:33:28.380 Yeah.
01:33:28.640 Glenn's very much on that side.
01:33:29.920 And he has been for years.
01:33:31.060 A long time.
01:33:31.460 And like, to be fair, it's already had a major impact.
01:33:34.760 It's already the fastest growing app we've ever had.
01:33:38.140 Chat GPT.
01:33:38.860 Chat GPT is.
01:33:39.700 And that's just one of the services.
01:33:41.420 You know, the, the self-driving thing is coming and AI is a massive part of that.
01:33:45.920 So, I mean, like it is going to be very impactful.
01:33:48.300 I mean, is it going to take over the world and, and, you know, cause some, you know, sort
01:33:52.480 of matrix-like situation?
01:33:54.140 I mean, I, I don't know, but I, I believe that.
01:33:56.280 I do think that there is a weird, uh, part of us that just doesn't want chat GPT, like
01:34:04.940 doesn't want to have that experience.
01:34:06.560 Like I see, like you see those pictures, like the, the fake AI pictures that they're used
01:34:11.140 for, you know, you see it on like social media or advertisements.
01:34:14.580 People are sort of rejecting those.
01:34:16.220 They don't like the, there's something odd and off.
01:34:19.880 It's that uncanny valley type of situation.
01:34:21.920 People don't know exactly what to, you know, how to, they don't know why they don't like
01:34:26.560 them, but they don't like them.
01:34:28.040 Yeah.
01:34:28.080 But as, as this technology progresses, will that go away?
01:34:32.200 I mean, I think it'll be perfected to the point where you won't be able to, you won't
01:34:35.820 be able to tell.
01:34:36.520 It's already there at some level.
01:34:38.040 Some of the stuff I look at, I'm like, I have no, I, the, honestly, the only reason you
01:34:41.200 kind of, it's like a little too perfect usually.
01:34:43.040 Yeah.
01:34:43.260 If you get like a thumb where somebody's eye should be, it's probably, it's, that's
01:34:48.560 usually, that's usually an indicator.
01:34:50.760 Yeah.
01:34:51.380 Uh, that maybe it messed up a little bit, but like all the people in the pictures are too
01:34:55.000 good looking.
01:34:55.640 I noticed that one a lot.
01:34:56.820 And then the AI stuff, like they're just all, you know, perfect examples of every little,
01:35:03.120 you know, uh, every little sub group, you know, like the artsy looking girl and the,
01:35:09.320 the, the, the jock looking guy, they're just all too perfect.
01:35:13.380 But again, we're used to that with social media already, right?
01:35:16.280 Like we're already used to that on Instagram.
01:35:18.000 Yeah.
01:35:18.620 So I, I really do think you look at it and I think it's going to wind up doing a lot
01:35:23.340 of stuff for us that we, you know, we don't like, you know, I, you, I, have you ever played
01:35:29.040 with it at all?
01:35:29.440 You ever use chat GPT for anything?
01:35:30.880 I really haven't.
01:35:31.480 I mean, I played with it just to kind of see how it works.
01:35:33.280 And it's like, you know, one of the things that is really interesting is, you know,
01:35:36.720 I like my kid will ask me a question and be like, Hey, like, what does this mean?
01:35:39.360 And it's like on his math homework.
01:35:40.560 And it's like, you kind of remember it.
01:35:43.380 You kind of can like, I, I remember how to, I remember circumference and how to calculate
01:35:49.940 that.
01:35:50.300 Yeah, sure.
01:35:50.860 But like, I don't, like you asked me to do it right now.
01:35:54.740 Like, I don't really remember.
01:35:55.860 I need a little refresher.
01:35:57.200 You get a little, Hey, well, you know, how does, what does this mean?
01:35:59.560 How do you calculate this?
01:36:00.440 And it puts it out in there in two quick paragraphs.
01:36:02.820 Now, normally what you would do is just search the internet to find that.
01:36:05.360 Yeah.
01:36:05.660 Right.
01:36:05.900 So there's not, it's not that much different than what I would have done previously, but it
01:36:10.100 can kind of explain it in a way.
01:36:11.760 I don't have to click through five links to find the right explanation.
01:36:15.660 You know, you can do stuff like if you know how to do something and you're trying to explain
01:36:22.080 it to like your child and you don't know how to explain it, you know, like how to explain
01:36:26.300 this to a sixth grader and it'll give you an example, like with a little analogy, it
01:36:32.060 might not be perfect, but it'll be like, Oh, I know how I can explain it now.
01:36:34.680 Like it helps you, helps with prompts.
01:36:36.340 It helps get your mind going sometimes when you're, especially when it's something you haven't
01:36:39.380 thought about in a while.
01:36:40.960 Um, so I haven't used it a lot, but it's, but it can be helpful.
01:36:43.860 I had a friend who, um, worked, she worked in like, um, like, like email marketing and
01:36:51.340 stuff like that was her job.
01:36:53.500 And she would get an assignment from her boss and be like, Hey, can you send out a message
01:36:57.200 about our new offer coming out next week?
01:36:59.880 Can you write something up?
01:37:01.820 And she was doing that.
01:37:03.020 And then all of a sudden she's like, let me try this chat GBT thing.
01:37:07.040 And it's like, right message with, uh, you know, themed around Halloween with 10% off
01:37:12.820 offer, uh, for this product hit these few bullet points.
01:37:17.440 And then it's just spits it out.
01:37:18.560 And it's just like, wow.
01:37:19.900 Instead of spending an hour writing this, it took me two minutes.
01:37:23.120 And like that type of stuff that when, when I hear people say like, we should delay this,
01:37:27.180 we shouldn't use this.
01:37:29.200 It's just going to happen.
01:37:31.120 It's going to make people's lives easier.
01:37:33.180 And when that is the answer, it always wins.
01:37:35.700 Until Skynet is developed.
01:37:37.440 Right.
01:37:37.620 And then we all die.
01:37:38.340 And we all die.
01:37:38.760 While we're still alive.
01:37:39.900 But while we're alive, it'll be great.
01:37:41.580 Yeah.
01:37:41.800 Super convenient.
01:37:42.440 It's Google Maps.
01:37:43.300 Right.
01:37:43.680 Right.
01:37:44.260 It's GPS.
01:37:45.540 I remember when GPS started, we used to get calls all the time.
01:37:49.180 I won't do that.
01:37:49.860 That means they're monitoring me.
01:37:51.360 Well, now every one of your cars has it.
01:37:53.680 Yeah.
01:37:54.240 Right.
01:37:54.480 Like it's, when monitoring me thing,
01:37:57.180 went away really, really fast.
01:37:58.720 The same thing with phones.
01:37:59.480 Really fast.
01:37:59.980 I remember when phones first started like really hitting
01:38:02.160 and they became smartphones.
01:38:03.660 Oh, they're monitoring me.
01:38:05.060 I'm not going to give them my information.
01:38:07.220 Yep.
01:38:07.600 I mean, even our friend Keith Malinak,
01:38:10.280 who you do the show with.
01:38:11.280 Yes.
01:38:11.860 He's.
01:38:12.320 He is Mr.
01:38:13.100 The most anal about this in the world.
01:38:15.280 In the world.
01:38:15.920 He wouldn't even get a toll tag when we were in Houston.
01:38:18.740 Right.
01:38:19.300 Now.
01:38:20.060 Yeah.
01:38:20.420 No, it's not completely out the window.
01:38:22.060 He'll always be like, look at this.
01:38:23.140 He'll be like, look at this message I got on my phone.
01:38:25.500 I'm like, what is it, Keith?
01:38:26.880 And it's like, you know, it's some sort of like,
01:38:29.220 you have to approve, click yes to approve.
01:38:31.620 And it's got all these qualifications.
01:38:33.160 And then it's all like, you will give us your firstborn child.
01:38:35.720 You will become a sex slave for, for the mother Russia.
01:38:39.280 It's all sorts of stuff like that.
01:38:40.680 And he's like, look at this.
01:38:41.760 And I'm like, ah, that's crazy.
01:38:42.720 So what'd you do?
01:38:43.180 He's like, oh, I clicked.
01:38:43.920 Yes.
01:38:44.180 I needed the app.
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01:40:08.760 Let's check in with Steve in North Carolina.
01:40:12.020 Hey, Steve.
01:40:12.520 Welcome.
01:40:13.740 Hey, guys.
01:40:14.320 So, yeah.
01:40:15.260 They just had two months of that free self-driving in the Tesla, which is freaking amazing.
01:40:20.180 If you put dark enough sunglasses on, you can sleep.
01:40:24.820 And have you done that?
01:40:26.960 62 miles.
01:40:28.420 One way to work.
01:40:29.280 62 miles back.
01:40:30.960 Wow.
01:40:31.400 It is legitimately amazing technology.
01:40:33.580 So, are you, you're totally confident in it, in the safety there that you just depend
01:40:39.080 on it?
01:40:40.360 Yeah.
01:40:40.580 So, you put in your address and it just takes you to your driveway.
01:40:43.800 The only issue you have, I've seen with it, and I've had it free for two months, and it
01:40:48.980 is freaking unbelievable, is roundabouts.
01:40:51.920 Let's say, in North Carolina, we started putting in roundabouts everywhere and taking out lights.
01:40:56.360 We have it in Texas, too.
01:40:58.320 Yeah.
01:40:58.980 Occasionally, the first time it hit one, it doesn't, it's like a teenager trying to figure
01:41:07.080 it out.
01:41:07.360 It's kind of like, ooh, you know what I mean?
01:41:09.280 Right, right.
01:41:09.740 Yeah.
01:41:10.180 But it'll go around, it'll figure it out.
01:41:12.280 It's just, if somebody's behind you, they're like, what's wrong with this guy?
01:41:14.900 Right, right.
01:41:15.980 So, it learns, though?
01:41:17.440 Does it learn?
01:41:18.000 All the time.
01:41:18.780 Learning.
01:41:19.300 Yeah, it's learning the whole time, and if you disengage it, it gives you the option to
01:41:23.740 give a voice message to Tesla, like, it'll tell you it's anonymous, but it can't be,
01:41:27.800 because it knows my car's serial number.
01:41:29.600 Right.
01:41:29.800 But you can leave a voice message saying why you disengaged it, you know?
01:41:33.020 Wow.
01:41:33.200 So, they're gathering data.
01:41:35.440 For the last two months, every owner of a Tesla had the ability to get self-driving mobility.
01:41:40.020 For free.
01:41:41.320 Right?
01:41:41.780 So, they've been gathering, for the last, you know, 60 days, they've been gathering
01:41:45.460 intel on us, and learn, and I'm sure they're going to adapt.
01:41:49.220 Yeah.
01:41:49.420 In fact, I've got a download right now that's sitting there that I got to, and it made me
01:41:53.300 laugh.
01:41:53.520 He's like, oh, the guy keeps telling me about his downloads.
01:41:55.760 Oh, I got one right now.
01:41:56.720 It's so true.
01:41:57.780 And everyone's, and this is, of course, why the cars are so popular, is like, everyone
01:42:01.660 is like a, is an advocate for it.
01:42:04.340 Like, everyone that has one is like, this is incredible, this is incredible.
01:42:07.400 And look, the fact that a car, what we're used to with cars is you get a car, and it
01:42:11.980 just gets worse, and worse, and worse, and worse, and worse as you go.
01:42:14.580 The technology sucks.
01:42:15.800 It gets older and more outdated looking.
01:42:18.700 It's the opposite with Tesla.
01:42:20.520 It's always getting better, which is really incredible.
01:42:23.880 That is incredible.
01:42:24.360 My friend, this guy I was thinking of when I was thinking of, you know, the person who's
01:42:28.320 always telling me about all the Tesla updates, he was in town a couple weeks ago, and he
01:42:33.260 was out, you know, we were out at a shopping center, and he was talking to my daughter,
01:42:39.260 who was with us, and he's like, what, you want to see something cool?
01:42:42.140 And he goes, she's like, yeah, yeah.
01:42:43.540 Presses a button.
01:42:44.800 Tesla just comes out of the parking garage, just pulls up.
01:42:47.600 Oh, wow.
01:42:48.320 Just picks him up.
01:42:50.540 His car, with no one in it, picks him up at the curb.
01:42:55.020 Like, that is amazing.
01:42:56.060 I mean, think about telling someone about that 10 years ago, how crazy that would be.
01:43:00.780 But it is amazing, and here.
01:43:04.100 And, you know, it's interesting, too, to see how the electric car thing will play out
01:43:08.600 now that Elon Musk is like a Trump guy.
01:43:11.240 Like, is the left going to turn on these cars?
01:43:14.700 I kind of feel like they will.
01:43:16.480 I think so.
01:43:17.340 I think they will.
01:43:18.400 They'll always be like, global, you're telling me you can control the temperature?
01:43:22.620 Down to half a degree?
01:43:23.960 What are you, nuts with electric cars?
01:43:25.660 That's crazy.
01:43:30.200 Stand up.
01:43:32.220 Glenn Beck.
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01:44:44.800 In the past year, the number of close calls between commercial airliners
01:45:12.140 has surged to nearly three per week.
01:45:15.960 Southwest Southwest 2937, stop!
01:45:17.940 Half the controllers in the country are working six-day weeks, ten-hour days.
01:45:22.060 Major hubs and critical facilities are extremely understaffed.
01:45:25.540 It's the ultimate mind game.
01:45:26.960 It's all up here.
01:45:27.780 It's like a massive puzzle.
01:45:29.460 We have a reported controller shortage of about 2,000.
01:45:32.700 We're going to know a heck of a lot more about transportation when this is over.
01:45:35.840 Manufacturing issues, government incompetence, the COVID pandemic, absurd diversity policies
01:45:42.040 were traveling thousands of miles across the country to figure out what has changed and
01:45:47.520 why it matters.
01:45:48.800 Over 900 would-be air traffic controllers were denied the opportunity because they had the
01:45:54.620 wrong skin color.
01:45:55.200 I've read that they still utilize floppy disks.
01:45:58.340 They're utilizing identity politics.
01:46:01.220 The permanent bureaucracy at the FAA decided that it was producing too many white men to become
01:46:08.340 air traffic controllers.
01:46:09.240 So you take the technical test, you get 100%.
01:46:11.700 Then you take the biographical test.
01:46:14.120 How do you do on that?
01:46:15.600 So I ended up failing.
01:46:16.820 They can't get replacement antennas.
01:46:18.840 3% of its workforce should be disabled.
01:46:21.360 50-year-old radar system.
01:46:23.140 All these airplanes moving in different places, different altitudes, different speeds.
01:46:27.680 How is this legal?
01:46:28.520 It's not.
01:46:29.040 What can we do?
01:46:30.280 Slippery slope.
01:46:30.960 No!
01:46:31.620 Is anybody listening?
01:46:32.980 I'm Stupor here, and this is Blaze Originals.
01:46:36.160 I feel like becoming an air traffic controller is hard.
01:46:39.300 Figuring out that we should not judge people on the basis of the color of their skin is easy.
01:46:49.440 There it is.
01:46:50.700 So everything's fine?
01:46:51.840 Is what you're saying?
01:46:52.420 No, that's not what we say at all in the documentary.
01:46:54.600 Oh, I guess I'm misunderstood.
01:46:55.920 I thought everything was fine.
01:46:56.960 No, it's definitely not fine.
01:47:00.900 Countdown to the next Aviation Disaster is the name of it.
01:47:03.400 It's available as part of your Blaze TV subscription.
01:47:06.720 If you go to blazeoriginals.com slash Glenn, use the promo code DEI.
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01:47:15.200 It was quite an eye-opening experience to go through all of that and talk to all these people who have been, you know, some of them have been studying this stuff for decades.
01:47:25.020 And just, I can't believe that we can't get this stuff done.
01:47:27.820 And Trump announced Sean Duffy, a former congressman, as the transportation secretary.
01:47:34.940 Now, I don't know if he could live up to those Pete Buttigieg standards.
01:47:37.900 Oh, it's impossible.
01:47:39.280 That's impossible.
01:47:40.360 He'd have to do absolutely nothing for four solid years before he could live up to standards like that.
01:47:46.180 Absolutely nothing.
01:47:47.620 See, I feel like if Pete Buttigieg only did nothing, it would have been a lot better.
01:47:51.280 Yeah, it would have been better.
01:47:51.940 Yes, that is true.
01:47:52.980 He actually actively hurt the country over and over again.
01:47:55.880 But Duffy, I think, will be better at that.
01:47:57.540 One of the things they talked about was going after DEI throughout transportation, including the FAA and air traffic control.
01:48:04.900 And that has been a massive situation.
01:48:06.540 You know, situation like of all the jobs, you want to just base something on merit.
01:48:10.540 You'd think it would be that, keeping people alive as they fly.
01:48:14.340 But even there, the government has stepped in and said, you know, skin color and gender are really a little bit more important.
01:48:20.060 Well, has Duffy fixed sidewalks in South Bend, Indiana?
01:48:24.640 He has not.
01:48:25.280 No.
01:48:25.520 To my knowledge, he has not.
01:48:27.080 That's what I'm saying.
01:48:27.620 He has not installed exterior lighting on bridges in South Bend.
01:48:32.260 There's another thing.
01:48:33.000 He hasn't done either of those things.
01:48:34.200 So I don't know if he's really qualified for this gig.
01:48:36.780 Obviously not.
01:48:38.160 Obviously not.
01:48:38.900 Someone was like, Pete Buttigieg, he's a possibility for 2028.
01:48:42.800 Is he?
01:48:43.920 Oh, come on now.
01:48:44.780 Is he now?
01:48:45.460 Seriously?
01:48:46.360 Yeah.
01:48:47.400 When they poll it, he's usually like 34.
01:48:48.940 He's usually like 34.
01:48:49.260 He's usually like losing badly.
01:48:51.780 Put him up.
01:48:52.660 Please.
01:48:53.320 Please.
01:48:54.060 Him or, again, Kamala Harris, because that's what I keep hearing.
01:48:57.200 She won the poll.
01:48:58.200 Yeah.
01:48:58.440 By a lot.
01:48:58.540 It was 41% of people said it was Kamala Harris for 2028, which I just didn't do it.
01:49:03.140 Please do it.
01:49:03.640 Wasn't he the next highest person like 8%?
01:49:05.540 But, I mean, that's just name recognition, right?
01:49:07.860 I guess so.
01:49:08.480 Gavin Newsom was, I think, second at 8%.
01:49:10.540 Elizabeth Warren was listed.
01:49:12.280 Pete Buttigieg was listed.
01:49:13.720 Kind of the names you know.
01:49:14.900 What I think is going to happen is that because there's nobody on the bench right now that
01:49:19.760 is known to Americans who can win the presidency for Democrats.
01:49:26.680 There's nobody.
01:49:27.580 So it's going to have to be somebody I think nobody knows about right now.
01:49:31.400 Yeah, I think so.
01:49:32.260 Or at least people are not familiar with.
01:49:35.360 It's not like a Bill Clinton type who comes from nowhere, from Arkansas, and wins.
01:49:39.860 To me, the most obvious name there is Josh Shapiro.
01:49:42.020 So Shapiro, maybe, who is, you know, I think if there was any winners when it comes to the
01:49:47.900 Democratic loss here, it's Josh Shapiro because he was the one that probably should have been
01:49:52.120 picked as the VP.
01:49:53.440 They went with Walls.
01:49:54.340 The thing fell apart.
01:49:55.780 Thank God.
01:49:56.340 They went with Temp on Tim Walls because what a nightmare he was for them.
01:50:01.180 I love the fact that that didn't work.
01:50:02.700 Oh, that was so stupid on their part.
01:50:05.280 And she said, to be fair to Kamala, she did say she was overtired the day she made the
01:50:10.260 pick.
01:50:11.240 She did say that.
01:50:12.780 Yeah, you didn't hear that?
01:50:13.480 I don't think so.
01:50:14.020 She legitimately said she was exhausted that day.
01:50:16.880 Oh my gosh.
01:50:17.600 And made the pick.
01:50:18.380 She was very overtired.
01:50:19.620 Oh my.
01:50:20.540 Now this is before they lost, she said this.
01:50:23.860 Just show you how well that was going at the time.
01:50:26.000 So great.
01:50:27.020 But like Josh Shapiro, like I don't, I don't think Josh Shapiro would have been the difference
01:50:31.700 in a victory for them.
01:50:32.860 No, you know, they, they lost Pennsylvania by, I think 1.8 points, probably not making
01:50:38.520 that much up.
01:50:39.480 However, I will say, would it have gotten Bob Casey across the finish line?
01:50:44.140 Probably.
01:50:45.080 Maybe.
01:50:45.400 I mean, he only won by about 20,000 votes or lost by about 20,000 votes to Dave McCormick.
01:50:50.720 That was about two, like 0.2, I think, percent, right?
01:50:54.260 It was something like that.
01:50:55.440 0.2%.
01:50:56.120 I think it was like 48.8 to 48.6, something along those lines.
01:51:01.600 It was, yeah, very, very close.
01:51:03.980 So.
01:51:04.500 So there you go.
01:51:05.760 I mean, I guess the mayor, there's the governor of Maryland.
01:51:09.420 Some are talking about Moore.
01:51:11.280 Westmore.
01:51:12.000 Westmore.
01:51:12.880 He's one that's in that, in that realm.
01:51:14.340 But again, and like you have plenty of time to get familiar.
01:51:17.240 I mean, no one knew.
01:51:17.920 Look, we knew who J.D.
01:51:19.740 Vance was over the past few years.
01:51:21.680 America didn't.
01:51:22.640 I mean, they knew the book maybe a little bit, but like very.
01:51:26.180 And the movie.
01:51:26.560 Yeah, and remember when he launched, he was, his numbers were not good.
01:51:30.960 Yeah.
01:51:31.200 He started that with the worst numbers of all four candidates and ended with the best numbers
01:51:37.520 of all four candidates.
01:51:38.460 That's because he's great.
01:51:39.420 He was great.
01:51:40.080 He ran a great campaign.
01:51:41.100 That was the best VP campaign I think I've ever seen.
01:51:43.580 He was tremendous.
01:51:45.160 I mean, I can't think really of a better pick for Trump than J.D. Vance.
01:51:50.360 Somebody who could express themselves and the Trump agenda as well as J.D. Vance.
01:51:57.920 Maybe the vague could have.
01:52:00.600 Yeah, I think J.D. was the right pick, though.
01:52:02.860 Yeah, I think so, too.
01:52:03.620 I think so.
01:52:04.260 And obviously, I mean, first of all, it worked.
01:52:07.000 They won.
01:52:07.960 So, but secondly, I think, you know, when it came to that pick, it was an interesting
01:52:11.600 moment because it was sort of a luxury pick for Trump.
01:52:14.620 Trump was up by a lot at that point.
01:52:17.760 Joe Biden was claiming he was going to stay in the race.
01:52:21.360 And that pick, you could have argued at the time, it didn't check any of the boxes that
01:52:26.580 we were told over and over again were going to be checked.
01:52:28.560 And I kept saying this on the air, like, what makes us think Donald Trump's going to be
01:52:31.520 like, no, it's got to be a woman.
01:52:33.120 Like, when has he ever made a decision like that?
01:52:35.560 He's going to pick the person he thinks is best.
01:52:37.900 He's not going to be, if he's been, if that would have been a woman, he would have picked
01:52:40.800 her.
01:52:40.980 Right.
01:52:41.120 If he's picking based on identity politics, though, then it doesn't seem like a very Trumpian
01:52:45.760 pick.
01:52:46.820 The whole point of his, I mean, I mean, the central argument for his candidacy is,
01:52:50.360 like, I'm not going to do that.
01:52:52.180 But everyone's like, whoa, he's going to pick Nikki Haley.
01:52:54.480 What?
01:52:54.940 So like, he's not.
01:52:56.720 So I thought J.D. Vance would be the pick.
01:52:59.680 And one of the reasons why I thought he would be the pick was because he checks the boxes
01:53:03.900 of someone who's very competent, who can come on and all these shows, he can argue in adversarial
01:53:09.000 circumstances.
01:53:09.560 He can, he can tell a story in a friendly without getting pissy, without getting pissy.
01:53:13.700 He did a great job with that.
01:53:15.560 But also, it's a sort of a legacy pick for Trump.
01:53:18.320 I mean, Trump's got four more years unless someone alters the Constitution, which I think
01:53:22.500 Trump's kind of friendly with that idea.
01:53:25.000 And he keeps tossing it out there.
01:53:26.960 And it's like, he kind of wants this to happen.
01:53:29.860 But in theory, he's going to be done in four years.
01:53:32.460 And when he is done, he needs somebody who can actually advocate for some version of what
01:53:38.040 his belief system is.
01:53:39.820 And I will say the one weakness of the Trump movement so far is that no one else seems to
01:53:47.520 be able to execute it.
01:53:49.640 You know, you can, I'm just saying like, you might not like some of the ideas.
01:53:52.240 You might love some of the ideas.
01:53:53.080 But as far as a political success, whether candidates can win, most of the candidates
01:53:57.900 that have tried to run as Trump-ish Republicans have not done very well with it.
01:54:03.060 Many of them have lost winnable races.
01:54:05.680 Trump seems to be able to overwhelm that.
01:54:07.960 That's why I thought maybe the only viable option for 2028 might be a Trump, like Don Jr.
01:54:18.200 Somebody like that.
01:54:20.000 I mean, it's certainly possible.
01:54:21.720 And it's definitely possible.
01:54:23.660 He's always first or second in any of the polls where they're speculating on 28.
01:54:30.340 This is just me.
01:54:31.960 I might recommend we move on.
01:54:34.800 There's nothing wrong.
01:54:36.400 I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it.
01:54:37.720 They've got great people in the family.
01:54:39.380 But like we complained a lot about Bushes and Clintons constantly running over and over
01:54:43.920 and over again.
01:54:44.440 Like, I don't know.
01:54:45.780 Maybe like, I don't know.
01:54:46.960 Maybe it's J.D. Vance next time.
01:54:48.060 I mean, I think Vance is the obvious one for 2028 if this four years goes well, right?
01:54:53.140 It has to go well.
01:54:54.180 Yeah.
01:54:54.640 But he's obviously, he's the big favorite going into this because of not only, you know,
01:55:00.880 obviously you just kind of assume the VP would be the pick, but he also really did a good
01:55:04.260 job.
01:55:05.080 I think everyone recognized this went very, very well for J.D. Vance, especially after the
01:55:09.840 really rough rollout where he was taking a beating at the beginning, he was able to push
01:55:13.880 all the way back and really improve his standing.
01:55:16.380 That's one of my favorite things is that they came out of the gate with, he's weird.
01:55:21.760 But the more people saw him, the less weird he was and the more weird they were.
01:55:28.520 So that blew up in their faces.
01:55:30.980 I mean, there is an argument to be made that the Walls pick cost her the election.
01:55:36.640 Oh, for sure.
01:55:37.140 I'm not entirely sure it's true.
01:55:40.140 I think it's in part true.
01:55:41.400 It's not crazy.
01:55:42.240 It's not.
01:55:42.860 You know, we do that pulse cast thing, Pat, where we like combined all the election models
01:55:46.200 and polls and, you know, prediction markets, all that stuff into one number.
01:55:50.940 And, you know, there's a move.
01:55:52.780 It goes back and forth a few times.
01:55:53.800 It also turned out to be right, did it not?
01:55:55.240 Yeah.
01:55:55.560 It did pick Trump to win.
01:55:58.220 But when you go back and forth, there was like these backs, you know, big arcs, right?
01:56:03.180 Like it started off with Trump kind of ahead and then Kamala's initial rise.
01:56:06.540 Then, you know, Trump kind of comes back, takes the lead right before that first debate.
01:56:11.720 The debate happens, kind of switches it.
01:56:13.940 Kamala goes back into the league.
01:56:15.260 And then there's the last movement, which is basically the movement from Kamala being
01:56:19.380 in the lead slightly to Trump being in the lead, both in close quarters.
01:56:24.100 But that last move that keeps Trump in the lead until the end begins on the day of the VP debate.
01:56:33.380 Oh, wow.
01:56:33.980 I mean, I don't know that you can blame the whole thing on that.
01:56:36.740 I mean, I think Trump had a pretty significant advantage.
01:56:38.580 Probably not, but I think it had something to do with it.
01:56:41.080 I think it had to.
01:56:43.100 I mean, I think Vance helped.
01:56:44.500 Yeah.
01:56:44.780 He did.
01:56:45.160 He certainly didn't hurt.
01:56:46.040 He did.
01:56:46.300 And, you know, obviously, like did hurt, right?
01:56:49.160 Like the walls did hurt.
01:56:50.740 Yeah.
01:56:50.900 I mean, the central reason Donald Trump won the election is because Joe Biden sucks.
01:56:54.940 I mean, it was a very uphill battle for anyone on the Democratic side to win that election
01:56:59.840 because Trump's presidency is remembered positively.
01:57:03.760 Biden's presidency is remembered negatively.
01:57:05.540 And just going into it with that is very difficult to overcome.
01:57:10.580 But the walls pick really didn't help.
01:57:13.080 And it hurt a lot.
01:57:14.360 It was, you know, he was terrible.
01:57:16.460 He was terrible.
01:57:17.920 And it made no sense.
01:57:18.580 I don't know that anybody disliked him more than you and I.
01:57:22.180 No.
01:57:22.820 I could not stand that man.
01:57:26.600 I can't stand him.
01:57:27.520 Oh, my gosh.
01:57:28.160 I'm so glad we don't have to see him anymore.
01:57:29.640 And you know what?
01:57:30.280 We're never going to have to think about him ever again.
01:57:32.280 That's right.
01:57:32.600 He's going to be like Tim Kaine.
01:57:33.400 I love it.
01:57:34.000 Who just honestly, like, is a trivia question.
01:57:36.900 Right.
01:57:38.260 Right.
01:57:38.620 Like, he was Hillary's VP and no one can remember that.
01:57:41.620 I mean, legitimately, people who are very engaged politically, I'll bring that up, too.
01:57:45.240 I haven't thought about him in eight years.
01:57:47.140 And he just won election in 2024.
01:57:49.020 Again, re-election.
01:57:50.260 Wow.
01:57:50.540 But, like, no one thinks about him because he was terrible.
01:57:52.700 He was a total non...
01:57:54.020 He was a giant zilch.
01:57:55.560 But compared to Tim Walz, he was George Washington.
01:57:59.020 Yeah, because he didn't...
01:58:00.280 I don't think he actively hurt the campaign.
01:58:01.740 He just did nothing to help it.
01:58:03.060 People forgot she even made a pick.
01:58:04.520 Like, 888-900...
01:58:06.680 888-727-BECK, actually.
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01:59:47.820 Pat and Stu for Glenn this week.
01:59:49.880 You know, we were talking about the demise of the Democrats in this election.
01:59:54.620 What's really fantastic is that they still, either they don't get it, or they just don't want to admit it, and that's going to help in the long run.
02:00:05.480 There's still, the Huffington Post, for instance, just published a headline,
02:00:10.700 Trump just ran the most racist campaign in modern history and won.
02:00:16.960 Yeah, that's not what happened.
02:00:18.080 No.
02:00:18.500 That is not what happened.
02:00:19.460 Not what occurred.
02:00:19.960 It's weird, because a lot of the Hispanic voters that went his way must really have a strange, I don't know.
02:00:28.260 Didn't he actually outright win Hispanic voters?
02:00:31.320 I don't think he won, right?
02:00:32.880 Yeah.
02:00:33.400 I actually was just looking at this today.
02:00:35.560 I think it was a plus 10 for the Democrats.
02:00:37.800 Okay.
02:00:38.300 And that's essentially a win for Republicans.
02:00:41.160 It's incredible.
02:00:42.180 Let's see.
02:00:42.900 I've got this article.
02:00:44.000 I was going to bring this up today, and we never got to it.
02:00:45.820 But it's from Nate Cohn, how Democrats lost their base and their message.
02:00:51.040 Here's the breakdowns by racial group.
02:00:54.300 Excuse me.
02:00:55.540 Black voters towards Republicans, 19 points.
02:01:00.060 So Republican plus 19 went from Democrats plus 91 to Democrats plus 72.
02:01:05.320 So still, they're Democratic voters.
02:01:06.860 But a 19-point shift.
02:01:08.440 That's huge.
02:01:08.960 Hispanic, 29-point shift.
02:01:10.940 Went from Democrats 39 to Democrats plus 10.
02:01:13.980 Wow.
02:01:14.240 Asian voters, a 17-point shift to Republicans.
02:01:17.500 Other racial group, 17 points toward Republicans.
02:01:21.340 White voters with no degree, 13 points toward Republicans.
02:01:25.700 Non-white with a bachelor's, 21 points.
02:01:28.900 Non-white, no degree.
02:01:30.120 Wow.
02:01:30.520 37 points.
02:01:32.200 Non-white with no degree.
02:01:33.200 And we were hearing in some polls that we were going to lose the white,
02:01:37.020 non-college-educated vote, right?
02:01:40.040 I mean, there was a survey that I was seeing, I don't know, somewhere right before the election
02:01:45.860 that it looked bad for that group.
02:01:47.460 Yeah, Trump won them by 36 points.
02:01:49.720 Oh, my gosh.
02:01:50.600 It was a pretty easy one.
02:01:51.680 Wow.
02:01:51.800 But same thing with age groups.
02:01:53.140 Wow.
02:01:53.220 18 to 29, Republicans plus 14.
02:01:55.240 30 to 44, Republicans plus 8.
02:01:57.480 45 to 64, Republicans plus 8.
02:02:00.060 Incredible.
02:02:00.440 Pretty much every group that they've depended on forever.
02:02:03.780 Yeah.
02:02:04.280 With the exception of, like, older voters went slightly toward Democrats,
02:02:08.720 but still remained on the Republican side overall.
02:02:11.200 Amazing.
02:02:12.620 All right.
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