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00:00:35.420 Hello, America, and welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:00:37.420 Glad that you are here.

00:00:39.040 We've got a lot on tap today.

00:00:41.040 We're going to start with a fascinating conversation with a guy who knows what the American dream is all about firsthand

00:00:47.280 and who's also on the cutting edge with changing the world.

00:00:52.880 What does the future look like?

00:00:54.580 One of the real players in Silicon Valley, Amal Ravikant, is here with us right now.

00:01:02.240 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:01:24.020 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:01:28.580 Kamal Ravikant, I don't know why I'm having you.

00:01:33.300 You're in Texas.

00:01:34.480 We're going to call you Pete from here on out.

00:01:37.500 Kamal is with us.

00:01:39.220 Kamal is a friend of mine.

00:01:41.140 We met about three years ago.

00:01:43.380 I read a poem of yours on the air.

00:01:47.880 I didn't remember this.

00:01:49.040 You reminded me of this yesterday.

00:01:50.780 Read a poem of yours on the air.

00:01:52.800 And then did you write to me or call?

00:01:55.000 No, someone from your staff reached out.

00:01:56.120 Really?

00:01:57.780 And so then you came down, right?

00:02:00.300 Yes, sir.

00:02:00.920 And you have a fascinating life.

00:02:04.240 And when you came down, did I know who your brother was or who you?

00:02:09.740 I don't think so.

00:02:10.640 Yeah.

00:02:11.260 Because you have, if you're in Silicon Valley, you're very well known.

00:02:15.600 Your brother is very well known.

00:02:18.080 Like really well known.

00:02:19.900 And we'll talk about that here in a second.

00:02:21.460 You've written a new book.

00:02:22.880 It's called Rebirth, which is kind of your story.

00:02:26.740 Yes.

00:02:27.520 I was telling the guys when we first came in that, you know, your story is very much,

00:02:35.380 in some ways, my story.

00:02:37.340 You know, you kind of go and you lose it all.

00:02:40.960 And then, what was it, Pat?

00:02:43.120 What was the next part of the story?

00:02:45.640 Oh, yeah.

00:02:46.060 You get fat.

00:02:47.240 Yeah.

00:02:47.400 Thank you.

00:02:48.680 Yeah.

00:02:49.140 No, he didn't.

00:02:50.180 He hasn't had the fat part of the story yet.

00:02:53.780 But anyway.

00:02:54.500 It's coming, my friend.

00:02:55.640 It's coming.

00:02:56.620 But your story is the quintessential American story because you came from India.

00:03:06.040 Yes, sir.

00:03:06.820 Nine years old.

00:03:07.880 Tell me about it.

00:03:09.660 Single mom.

00:03:11.320 Came here with my brother.

00:03:12.300 You were a single mom at the time?

00:03:13.660 Yes.

00:03:13.860 I started early.

00:03:15.260 I'm a single mom, my brother and I.

00:03:17.560 Two little kids.

00:03:18.960 Left an abusive father.

00:03:20.760 In India?

00:03:21.780 No, he was here.

00:03:23.280 He was here.

00:03:23.900 And then he was still abusive here.

00:03:25.780 She said, you know, I'm not raising my boys with this example.

00:03:28.940 And she took my brother and I and left.

00:03:31.440 And we went through everything.

00:03:33.300 Homeless, food stamps, bouncing one place to the other.

00:03:36.540 And her just working minimum wage jobs day in, day out.

00:03:39.940 And I got to see her go through some very hard stuff.

00:03:43.240 And she raised my brother and I on nothing in Jamaica, Queens.

00:03:46.760 We had ten locks on our doors.

00:03:49.020 You know.

00:03:49.200 Jamaica, Queens.

00:03:50.020 Anybody, you guys remember?

00:03:51.300 Did you guys go to Jamaica, Queens ever?

00:03:53.640 Yeah.

00:03:54.100 I mean, that's.

00:03:55.200 I think Run DMC and a lot of the original rappers came from there.

00:03:58.060 That kind of place.

00:03:58.880 That's a dicey, dicey place.

00:04:00.600 Yeah.

00:04:00.960 I mean, I got jumped a bunch of times.

00:04:02.840 You know, I was a skinny little shy kid.

00:04:04.360 And then when I graduated, I left and went to college for a year and then just screwed

00:04:11.340 this and joined the Army.

00:04:13.020 And one of the best decisions I made in my life.

00:04:15.400 I was just a grunt, 11 Bravo, infantry soldier.

00:04:18.960 And did that for three years and then went to college after that.

00:04:23.300 And moved out to Silicon Valley after that and started building companies.

00:04:27.100 Would you join the Army now?

00:04:29.200 Yes.

00:04:29.840 You would?

00:04:30.320 Yeah, of course.

00:04:31.240 No, without hesitation.

00:04:32.340 Of course.

00:04:32.740 Would you have your son join the Army now?

00:04:35.360 Yes.

00:04:35.980 Wow.

00:04:36.960 Of course.

00:04:37.840 No hesitation.

00:04:39.000 Of course.

00:04:40.680 We've had this.

00:04:41.360 This is so off the topic, but we've had this conversation internally a lot of times.

00:04:45.880 I'm not sure what we're doing anymore.

00:04:48.020 Of course not.

00:04:49.100 I mean, it's the mission is a mess, but the art of the way of being a soldier is the best

00:04:56.180 thing I ever gave myself as a boy to become a man.

00:04:59.800 And what part of it made you a man?

00:05:02.740 Being challenged in boot camp every day.

00:05:05.080 Most of my friends never thought I would make it.

00:05:06.960 I didn't need to go to the Army.

00:05:09.000 I had a scholarship to college, you know, and I went on my own and I was a skinny kid from

00:05:14.860 the city.

00:05:15.800 Like, I never held a rifle, you know, never shot anything.

00:05:18.400 You'd never seen the woods before.

00:05:19.460 I'd never seen the woods, you know, and all of a sudden I'm in full painting Georgia with

00:05:22.500 a shaved head, you know, different haircut than this.

00:05:24.500 Yeah, I would imagine a lot different.

00:05:27.180 You know, like, sharing bunks with guys from, like, gangbangers and, like, basically, you

00:05:32.820 know, guys who were, like, from everywhere in the U.S.

00:05:35.600 And then, you know, and we had to, like, gel together to come together to serve one purpose.

00:05:41.900 And there were a lot of, like, you know, we didn't get along well, but by the end we were,

00:05:45.820 like, a well-formed unit.

00:05:46.760 We were on mission.

00:05:48.080 So you got to see, really get to see what this country's about.

00:05:50.880 That was, like, that was a great gift.

00:05:53.260 You were, I think you were telling me yesterday that the service we have, how did you phrase

00:06:00.300 it, gentlemen?

00:06:01.200 Gentlemen, soldiers.

00:06:02.140 Gentlemen, soldiers.

00:06:02.800 What do you mean by that?

00:06:03.800 Well, I'll give you an example.

00:06:04.920 I have a friend of mine who's a F-18 Super Hornet pilot, and he's getting out soon, so I'm

00:06:10.600 kind of guiding him on entrepreneurship.

00:06:12.380 And he just came back from a tour, and he was, you know, the guy was bombing ISIS.

00:06:16.280 And he was actually showing me some of the unclassified footage of the, one of the major

00:06:20.760 bombing runs he did.

00:06:22.480 And he took out a lot of ISIS soldiers there, where their barracks were in the middle of

00:06:26.420 the city.

00:06:26.940 And it was very surgical, in the middle of the city.

00:06:29.920 And yet he was telling me he thinks about the civilians around there and what they must

00:06:33.700 go through.

00:06:34.540 They're stuck with these guys.

00:06:36.220 They have no choice.

00:06:36.960 They're under a terror rule.

00:06:38.700 And all of a sudden, the whole place is blowing up.

00:06:41.500 And so he and I were on YouTube, and so he could look and see the civilians' perspective,

00:06:45.480 the videos they took of his bombing.

00:06:47.740 Like, we are very thoughtful soldiers.

00:06:50.040 You know, people are, you know, we're not this, you know, people talk about this cowboy

00:06:54.880 yuhas.

00:06:55.340 We don't have that.

00:06:56.300 We have, like, people who really care.

00:06:58.920 You're such an interesting guy.

00:07:00.760 At nine years old, you come over, you're here coming over to America.

00:07:05.580 You've lived in some of the worst places in America for poverty and violence.

00:07:13.200 You grew up in a violent home, yet you were one of the most peaceful, gentle, kind men.

00:07:20.040 I know.

00:07:20.420 I get the nicest emails from you.

00:07:23.640 And you're so thoughtful.

00:07:25.800 I think the first time we met, I think one of the first things you said to me, and it

00:07:29.520 was genuine, was something along the lines of, how can I serve you?

00:07:34.080 How can I be helpful to you?

00:07:36.840 Where did that come from?

00:07:37.960 What happened?

00:07:38.760 Well, first of all, thank you.

00:07:39.960 Yeah.

00:07:40.640 I'd say my mom.

00:07:41.740 I think it comes from who raises you.

00:07:44.140 You know, she was an example.

00:07:45.800 You told me that you rarely saw, I mean, there were times that mom was gone because she was

00:07:52.280 working all the time.

00:07:53.360 Committed two hours a day.

00:07:54.920 So how did she give you that example?

00:07:59.900 I think I saw what she had to go through to take care of my brother and I and nothing

00:08:03.260 and how strong she had to be, but I could see what she was going through and what it

00:08:08.620 took.

00:08:09.340 And she's the most loving, amazing human being.

00:08:12.260 I'd love to meet her sometime.

00:08:13.580 She is.

00:08:14.180 She volunteers for battered women shelters.

00:08:16.560 I bet she does.

00:08:17.400 She works with seniors.

00:08:18.260 She just gives.

00:08:20.480 So she was an example.

00:08:21.640 I don't think she ever told me to be this way, but I watched her be that way.

00:08:25.700 And ultimately, that's all we can be.

00:08:27.860 Were you ever afraid you'd be your dad?

00:08:29.780 Yeah.

00:08:30.480 Yeah.

00:08:30.740 It's something I dealt with in my 20s, you know, like anger or just the fear of it?

00:08:35.180 Anger.

00:08:35.420 The fear of anger.

00:08:36.240 And, you know, honestly, like when you take anger and you turn it in, if you don't let

00:08:40.820 it out and you boil it, it turns to depression.

00:08:43.260 You beat yourself up.

00:08:44.720 So I dealt with that in my 20s.

00:08:47.040 And it was ultimately then coming to terms with his death, with him, that I was able

00:08:50.760 to just let it go and realize I am not him.

00:08:53.220 I will never be him.

00:08:54.160 He was an example for me in ways of not to be.

00:08:57.160 I also have other examples.

00:08:58.760 You know, I met amazing men in my life who have been mentors to me.

00:09:01.660 I had a great mother.

00:09:02.720 So use that and go from there.

00:09:04.480 I can have other examples.

00:09:08.340 And it's amazing.

00:09:09.760 I, my son-in-law grew up in a very, with a very dicey situation with father figures.

00:09:17.680 And, um, uh, to the point to where, you know, I hear some of the stories and I was, you know,

00:09:26.420 watching him very closely on, okay, so who are you?

00:09:31.200 Uh, because figure after figure after figure in his life was not good until recently.

00:09:36.820 Uh, and then I came along, uh, and screwed it up.

00:09:39.520 But, um, he, he is, he made the choice.

00:09:43.400 Yes.

00:09:43.900 I'm not going to be that guy.

00:09:45.660 Yes.

00:09:46.380 That's ultimately what it comes down to, who we choose to be.

00:09:49.280 And then we have to live it, you know?

00:09:51.680 Okay.

00:09:52.140 So, um, so let, let's, um, cut to the chase here before the break.

00:09:56.500 And then I, I, cause I want to talk to you about what you think America means because

00:10:01.080 you have a great perspective on it.

00:10:03.420 Are we losing it?

00:10:04.560 Are we getting closer, farther away?

00:10:06.560 What, what do we do?

00:10:07.620 And then I want to talk to you a little bit about technology.

00:10:09.720 Sure.

00:10:09.960 But, so you, you had this struggle, you, you gained everything, then you lost everything.

00:10:18.420 You end up in Silicon Valley.

00:10:21.140 Did you lose it in Silicon Valley?

00:10:22.900 Yeah.

00:10:23.060 I built it in Silicon Valley, lost it in Silicon Valley.

00:10:25.340 Okay.

00:10:25.540 Rebuilt.

00:10:26.240 Okay.

00:10:28.160 Tell it, tell us who, you know, you and your brother, um, are, uh, you know, kind of royalty

00:10:35.360 in Silicon Valley.

00:10:36.500 Why?

00:10:36.860 Well, my brother is known as one of the most entrepreneur friendly investors in Silicon

00:10:40.640 Valley.

00:10:41.160 Right.

00:10:41.260 So he's been an investor, like first investor in Uber, you know, first investors in Twitter

00:10:46.180 and so forth.

00:10:47.180 He's known for being a very, very helpful guy and he knows what he's doing.

00:10:50.640 Cause at one point in his career, he got screwed up by VCs and I was living with him then.

00:10:54.540 And he had to go through a lawsuit to actually prove it.

00:10:57.700 And he won.

00:10:58.200 And, and I remember him meaning that the, the venture capitalists are vultures.

00:11:02.760 There can be, there used to be more, right.

00:11:05.420 And they can come in and, and take you, you know, they were the money guys and you need

00:11:09.940 money.

00:11:10.240 People were entrepreneur.

00:11:11.340 You're not thinking that way.

00:11:12.460 You just want to build your business.

00:11:13.720 You want to make your dream.

00:11:14.860 You're not thinking of what you just signed away until it's time.

00:11:17.680 And then all of a sudden they come and they take it.

00:11:19.360 Correct.

00:11:19.840 So at that time, I remember when he was going through that, the genesis of what happened,

00:11:23.540 he said, I'm going to level the playing field.

00:11:25.080 I'm going to give entrepreneurs the power.

00:11:27.500 So first he started by actually creating a blog called venture hacks.

00:11:30.500 We just shared everything, deal terms, how to negotiate for entrepreneurs, just how the

00:11:35.080 whole thing works.

00:11:36.360 And then, um, an email list for angels to sharing the right deals with them.

00:11:40.520 And then built this platform called angel list where any entrepreneur now raises money

00:11:45.100 for startups.

00:11:46.140 So you don't have to, you don't have to spend six months begging VCs.

00:11:48.960 You can go there if it's a great thing.

00:11:51.340 Individuals, human, you know, people with money will just jump in and fund you.

00:11:54.140 So like Uber raised their first round on angel list.

00:11:57.340 How much was it?

00:11:58.240 The first round Uber at that time was worth, I think maybe less than $8 million and they

00:12:02.860 raised maybe 1.2 or something.

00:12:04.860 And how much they worth now?

00:12:06.220 About 60 billion.

00:12:08.200 Jeez.

00:12:09.100 That's it.

00:12:09.960 Holy cow.

00:12:10.940 Did you get in on that first round?

00:12:12.440 You know, that's a whole different story.

00:12:15.340 But I have friends of mine who did.

00:12:16.840 And, you know, that one, a 25,000 dollar investment at that point in Uber probably results by the

00:12:22.720 time they go public in like 30 million, $40 million.

00:12:25.720 Oh my God.

00:12:27.000 That's Silicon Valley math for you.

00:12:28.520 Yeah.

00:12:29.060 That's crazy.

00:12:29.980 That's when you need a flux capacitor.

00:12:31.160 Okay.

00:12:32.560 And they're working on one.

00:12:33.760 Okay.

00:12:34.540 So we're going to come back and I want to talk to you a little bit about your book and

00:12:38.640 how you view America.

00:12:42.320 Because we're an idea and we're not talking about the idea of America anymore.

00:12:49.260 I think it's an ideal.

00:12:50.340 More than an idea.

00:12:51.240 An ideal is something you uphold.

00:12:53.260 You know, it's a principle.

00:12:55.700 Yeah, that's what America is.

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00:15:12.780 Gamal Ravikant, a fable of love, forgiveness, and following your heart.

00:15:17.160 The name of the book is Rebirth.

00:15:18.980 I can't recommend it highly enough.

00:15:22.300 Kamal has a way.

00:15:23.600 I think I have read either Edgar Allan Poe or what's his name, the other one, if Rudyard Kipling on air.

00:15:34.800 I don't read poetry on the air.

00:15:36.300 I've read his.

00:15:37.480 And his novel is, I believe, and this is probably going to make you uncomfortable,

00:15:44.980 but I believe it is as good as anything McCormick McCarthy has ever written.

00:15:52.640 It's just, to me at least, it's just, there's an art to it that you have that you rarely, rarely see.

00:16:00.960 And the story is really, really great as well.

00:16:03.360 And it's kind of, it's kind of your story of when your dad died, you promised that you would take his ashes back to the Ganges.

00:16:12.340 Correct.

00:16:12.800 Right?

00:16:13.780 And, I mean, I don't know if you did this intentionally, but you brought him back in a...

00:16:19.860 No, it was given to me.

00:16:21.140 Really?

00:16:21.400 I have a red Marlboro lunch bag.

00:16:23.460 Right.

00:16:23.900 Which, think of the irony on that, right?

00:16:26.440 Right.

00:16:26.760 It's just my dad's ashes in the Marlboro bag.

00:16:28.520 I mean, I don't know who thought of that.

00:16:30.660 Yeah, right.

00:16:31.500 So you went and you were supposed to be just gone for a couple of days.

00:16:35.020 You spent eight months.

00:16:36.240 Spent eight months away.

00:16:37.140 And you ended up doing a Christian...

00:16:41.040 Pilgrimage.

00:16:41.580 Pilgrimage in Spain.

00:16:42.860 Correct.

00:16:43.300 Right.

00:16:43.900 And...

00:16:45.060 Changed my life.

00:16:45.860 How?

00:16:47.060 I, first of all, walking from, it was 550 miles long from the French-Spanish border all

00:16:53.180 the way to the Atlantic Ocean.

00:16:54.380 And then back.

00:16:55.460 No, I took a plane.

00:16:56.320 You took...

00:16:56.780 You were supposed to go back.

00:17:00.080 Well, in the old days, you did, right?

00:17:01.340 In the 11th century, there were no planes.

00:17:03.080 Yeah.

00:17:03.980 But, like, now millions of people have walked this.

00:17:06.240 And so, you know, no matter who you are, you stop following the footsteps of millions of

00:17:10.440 people who come there with, like, hopes and dreams, and they're following their beliefs,

00:17:14.300 and just many people died along the way originally.

00:17:17.260 And you walk this, so the kind of people who come and walk in are interesting people.

00:17:21.240 People are all resolving things in their lives.

00:17:23.660 And you start to share with each other stories of your lives.

00:17:26.320 And when you share stories, it's how you actually learn and grow.

00:17:29.240 Yeah.

00:17:29.720 And so that's actually where I learned.

00:17:31.600 I, you know, I was in my mid-20s.

00:17:33.140 I was lost.

00:17:33.740 I was broke.

00:17:34.760 My dad had died.

00:17:35.460 I was trying to come to terms with the anger I had towards him, and I couldn't resolve

00:17:38.340 it because he was gone.

00:17:39.220 And so all these issues I was working through actually got worked out by walking and being

00:17:44.660 out in the middle of nowhere, sleeping in vineyards and wheat fields and castles and

00:17:48.640 churches, and just talk about personal transformation.

00:17:53.300 This was, like, if...

00:17:54.680 Were you religious or spiritual at the time?

00:17:57.760 Because you went up to the Himalayas before this, and you, you know, did the thing with

00:18:01.800 the Dalai Lamas, monks, right?

00:18:05.040 Yes.

00:18:05.300 Yeah.

00:18:06.040 He's a...

00:18:07.300 He is a...

00:18:08.060 Have you ever met him?

00:18:09.120 I've listened to him, but I haven't, like, shook hands or anything.

00:18:11.100 Yeah, I know.

00:18:11.740 He is a really funny guy.

00:18:14.100 Yeah.

00:18:14.400 In person.

00:18:15.180 He's hysterical.

00:18:16.820 But there's something about him.

00:18:18.500 But anyway, so were you...

00:18:20.820 I'm not religious, although when I was in the army, when boot camp, I was baptized Southern

00:18:24.500 Baptist.

00:18:25.160 Okay.

00:18:25.560 Full-on immersion and full-pending Georgia.

00:18:27.060 Right, right.

00:18:27.680 Okay.

00:18:27.980 So it's been a foundation of mine, but it's not something I talk much about.

00:18:32.620 I just go live my own thing.

00:18:33.900 Right.

00:18:34.080 So, and originally, this was a Catholic pilgrimage, too.

00:18:38.000 And these days, pretty much anybody walks in.

00:18:41.400 Right.

00:18:41.680 The guy that you met, or the character meets in the book, did that guy, is he a collection

00:18:49.740 of everybody that you met?

00:18:51.360 You know, what I did was I took people I've known that I loved and, like, created characters

00:18:55.040 based on them.

00:18:55.700 And some of them are based on people I met, but all served a story of the lessons he

00:19:00.140 needs to learn.

00:19:00.780 And so as he grows, he meets the right people.

00:19:03.520 Biggest lesson from the book?

00:19:04.660 Forgiveness.

00:19:05.460 Forgiveness.

00:19:06.660 Letting go.

00:19:07.780 You know, that's where freedom is.

00:19:09.300 When we're hanging on to the past, we can't move forward.

00:19:11.860 And in the story, you're moving forward, get up, walk west day after day towards Santiago

00:19:17.240 de Compostela, which is the destination where the tomb of St. James the Apostle is.

00:19:22.020 And you just get up and you walk west.

00:19:24.380 And as you walk, you just, there's growth that happens.

00:19:28.940 And you're leaving the past behind, literally.

00:19:32.040 And so you learn to actually not just let it go physically, but also emotionally and spiritually.

00:19:36.860 And so forgiveness was the biggest lesson.

00:19:38.580 That is the biggest lesson of this book.

00:19:42.660 Did you crash before you went on that pilgrimage?

00:19:46.060 You had not made your money yet?

00:19:47.980 No.

00:19:48.400 Okay.

00:19:48.920 When you crashed, did you have a hard time?

00:19:51.820 Very much.

00:19:52.500 Letting go?

00:19:53.700 Of all the work?

00:19:54.520 You know, I had no choice.

00:19:56.100 I was incredibly sick.

00:19:57.120 I was depressed.

00:19:58.200 I was suicidal.

00:19:59.260 You know, like, I think if I had made you physically ill.

00:20:02.600 Yeah.

00:20:03.020 I've been going three and a half years, no vacation, lost everything.

00:20:06.020 And, you know, I thought I was a failure.

00:20:08.200 And I swear, like, if I had the strength, I would have walked and thrown myself off the

00:20:12.580 Bay Bridge.

00:20:13.880 Those days, I'm actually glad I didn't have a firearm.

00:20:17.040 You know, it worked in my favor there.

00:20:19.720 That's where I was.

00:20:20.140 It's funny because I've often said, because I've gone through that, you know, when I was

00:20:24.280 younger in my 20s.

00:20:25.260 And I thought, I'm glad I'm a coward.

00:20:28.120 Yeah.

00:20:28.720 Because, you know, I could have pulled myself, you know, off of a bridge, but I know I would

00:20:33.060 have gotten on a bridge and went, okay, all right, okay, this is too, you know, I'm

00:20:36.980 not, I'm not, I'm too much of a scaredy cat to do that.

00:20:41.300 And that, I think, is what saved my life.

00:20:43.580 I'm glad.

00:20:44.180 Yeah.

00:20:44.360 Yeah.

00:20:46.060 Okay.

00:20:46.420 Okay.

00:20:46.560 So you pull yourself back up from the brink.

00:20:50.060 What is the, I've only got 30 seconds.

00:20:52.360 So we'll come back.

00:20:53.280 I want to know what was the lesson you learned there?

00:20:56.640 Because now you're about to turbo your life and change everybody's life.

00:21:02.720 And I want to talk about that.

00:21:04.280 And as somebody who came here with nothing, been homeless, and in one generation, you

00:21:10.540 love America more than most Americans, what is the secret of America that maybe we're

00:21:16.760 missing?

00:21:16.980 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:21:19.940 Mercury.

00:21:22.260 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:21:24.180 888-727-BECK.

00:21:27.700 Kamal Ravikant is with us.

00:21:29.660 Rebirth, a fable of love, forgiveness, and the following of your heart.

00:21:32.320 A good friend of mine, a brilliant writer, and a brilliant man, and one of the more kind

00:21:37.080 men I know as well, and really thoughtful on how you approach life.

00:21:45.060 So you bottomed out.

00:21:47.160 You lost everything.

00:21:48.560 You come over here, for anybody who's joining us, you come over here from India at nine.

00:21:52.800 Your father is abusive.

00:21:53.880 Your mother says, not going to raise you here.

00:21:56.780 You're homeless for a while.

00:21:59.160 A tough, tough upbringing, but a loving mom.

00:22:02.620 You join the military.

00:22:04.680 Your dad dies.

00:22:06.240 You go over to India.

00:22:07.400 You go to the Himalayas.

00:22:08.680 I mean, you're a movie.

00:22:10.780 And then you come back.

00:22:13.080 You go to Silicon Valley, and you and your brother at the same time are hitting it?

00:22:18.060 My brother got there first.

00:22:19.320 Okay.

00:22:19.500 And for anybody who doesn't know, Ravikant is kind of a royal name in Silicon Valley, if

00:22:26.740 I can embarrass you a bit.

00:22:28.040 And then you lose everything.

00:22:32.320 You just said, if I had the strength because you were so sick, I would have thrown myself

00:22:38.120 off the Bay Bridge.

00:22:39.060 Correct.

00:22:39.480 What was the turning point?

00:22:40.780 Turning point was actually, I watched this TED Talk by Rick Warren.

00:22:44.380 I don't think I've ever told this publicly before.

00:22:46.940 And it's my favorite TED Talk.

00:22:48.860 And at the end, he goes, you know, he's sitting there kind of just like giving a very casual

00:22:52.540 talk.

00:22:53.120 And he's talking about the purpose-driven life.

00:22:55.080 And he's talking about how he said, you know, in the end, we're all betting on something.

00:22:59.400 Find what you're betting on and go in.

00:23:02.040 And I thought at that point, okay, I'm going to bet on something and get it either go all

00:23:06.100 in or die trying.

00:23:07.320 So just bet on this.

00:23:08.760 I was going to get better.

00:23:09.560 I made a vow to myself that I was just going to figure out a way to get out of it.

00:23:13.120 So did you bet on an investment or did you bet on my inner self?

00:23:19.860 And I just sat around and worked on my inner self to get myself out of it.

00:23:24.740 Because ultimately, it's all inside.

00:23:26.380 You know, like everything, we're stuck in our head.

00:23:28.680 So I just worked on this.

00:23:30.260 And I got better.

00:23:31.720 But it was like that focus, full-on vow.

00:23:33.840 I'm a big believer in commitment.

00:23:35.260 Because once you commit, the ships, they don't burn, they explode behind you.

00:23:38.300 Yeah.

00:23:38.800 Right?

00:23:39.140 I mean, that's the only way.

00:23:40.360 Once you can get to a place to where you can see it finished, you've done so much work

00:23:45.800 that you're like, it's not convincing yourself.

00:23:49.540 It's just, all of a sudden, it just rings true.

00:23:53.020 It's done.

00:23:53.980 Yes.

00:23:54.540 And then your life changes.

00:23:55.980 It transforms.

00:23:57.060 Transforms.

00:23:57.740 It really does.

00:23:58.520 And my life changed.

00:24:00.880 And I built myself back up.

00:24:02.920 And I started writing these books to share what I learned.

00:24:05.640 And they started doing very well.

00:24:07.420 And me being the real me.

00:24:08.640 Not trying to be some hotshot Silicon Valley guy.

00:24:11.040 I mean, just talking about my failures.

00:24:13.340 Yeah.

00:24:13.820 And it's been amazing.

00:24:14.500 Most people would meet you and they'd have no idea that you're a hotshot Silicon Valley guy.

00:24:17.980 So, let's talk a little bit about what is America?

00:24:26.780 What is it?

00:24:27.600 You say it's an ideal.

00:24:28.840 I think, ultimately, for me, the gift Silicon Valley gave me is the fact that everyone there

00:24:36.160 is doing something, dreaming and building, which is what America is for me.

00:24:40.640 It's like we always try to create something better and be better.

00:24:45.360 And America was an experiment that could have very easily failed when it started.

00:24:49.620 The founders could have been shot by the British and that would have been it.

00:24:53.220 It's about taking risks.

00:24:55.200 It's about falling flat on your face.

00:24:56.560 And in Silicon Valley, we don't punish failure.

00:24:59.380 If you did your best, you really tried something, it didn't work, we'll invest in you again.

00:25:04.460 That, I think, separates it.

00:25:05.820 That's why Europe will never be able to create a Silicon Valley.

00:25:08.200 Because every European entrepreneur I know is terrified of failing.

00:25:11.120 They'll never be able to do anything ever again if they fail.

00:25:14.160 Silicon Valley...

00:25:14.940 Failure teaches, if you're smart, failure teaches you really important lessons.

00:25:20.840 Failure is just as important as success.

00:25:22.840 In fact, success can be crippling.

00:25:24.540 Yeah, you know, Hemingway said the worst thing that can happen to a writer is early success.

00:25:28.800 Yeah.

00:25:29.380 You know, like I was writing and obsessively writing that book for over a decade.

00:25:33.640 Holy cow.

00:25:34.400 And like eight full drafts, sending them to agents and publishers, getting rejection letters.

00:25:39.060 And those rejection letters are the best gift I ever got.

00:25:41.680 Yeah.

00:25:42.100 Because it made me become a better writer.

00:25:44.460 You know, otherwise I'd be writing very clever drivel, not from the heart.

00:25:48.240 Yeah, yours is really on it.

00:25:50.140 I mean, there's something, I don't know.

00:25:52.620 Have you ever heard people say that about your writing?

00:25:54.720 There is something completely unique about your writing.

00:25:57.640 And it's not pretentious, ostentatious.

00:26:00.860 It's not like clever.

00:26:03.200 Like you're trying to do something.

00:26:04.700 It's just so authentic.

00:26:07.140 Your sentence structure is different.

00:26:09.100 I mean, it's really good.

00:26:10.600 Thank you.

00:26:10.880 It's really good.

00:26:11.400 Thank you.

00:26:13.820 So where are we on the American life cycle?

00:26:19.200 Oh, that's a great question.

00:26:21.180 We're some interesting times, that's for sure.

00:26:23.680 But, you know, like I get to meet, you know, because I run a fund now that I invest in entrepreneurs, right?

00:26:29.120 So even Silicon Valley, like people come from all the world to be entrepreneurs there.

00:26:33.340 So it's the American dream is very much alive.

00:26:36.400 It's a matter of choosing who you want to be.

00:26:38.960 You and I were talking yesterday off air about this concept of that Silicon Valley is in its own bubble.

00:26:49.000 And it doesn't relate to the rest of the country in some ways.

00:26:57.780 You invested in a company, what is it, the RV?

00:27:01.200 RV Share, it's my favorite.

00:27:02.420 Yeah.

00:27:02.880 And what is it?

00:27:03.980 It's Airbnb for RVs.

00:27:05.940 It's amazing.

00:27:07.000 It's brilliant.

00:27:07.420 It's a 12-man team, like, and they built it from scratch.

00:27:10.600 And a 12-man, there's a few women and men team in Cleveland, Ohio, in this little office park.

00:27:16.640 And they're changing people's lives.

00:27:18.180 You have an RV, and all of a sudden you can make a living off it by just renting it out just to individuals.

00:27:25.240 It makes it stupid simple.

00:27:26.520 People come find your RV, they rent it.

00:27:28.120 Silicon Valley would have never thought of that.

00:27:30.180 They thought of Airbnb.

00:27:31.580 Right.

00:27:31.780 But they didn't think of RVs, which is outside of Silicon Valley.

00:27:34.700 Right.

00:27:35.160 This is a, would you compare this time of history to the war of the currents, of the industrial revolution?

00:27:48.300 Industrial revolution.

00:27:48.900 There's changes coming that, you know, are just going to transform society.

00:27:53.160 What is, what are people, and this is something that we've talked about working together on, because I, I talk to the people in Silicon Valley and I'm both energized and, in a way, horrified because no one is talking about what's coming.

00:28:11.500 And the change is so, it is the difference between living in, on a farm with no telephone, no electricity, no plumbing, and 10 years later you're living in a city.

00:28:27.100 I mean, it's profound change that is coming.

00:28:30.760 And nobody is explaining this to the center of the country.

00:28:34.260 It's exciting and exhilarating, but it's going to change the way we think.

00:28:38.760 And nobody's really preparing, everybody's, like, for instance, education is still preparing us for the 1950s.

00:28:46.160 Oh, gosh, yeah.

00:28:47.100 It's terrible.

00:28:48.000 It's absolutely terrible.

00:28:49.320 Like, I would never hire someone just straight out of a traditional education.

00:28:52.800 The best people I've ever met, I've hired, barely got your high school, but they were doers.

00:28:58.500 You know, like, traditional education these days does not prepare you to start companies.

00:29:02.060 It doesn't.

00:29:02.600 And I think the American industry.

00:29:03.460 I think it actually hurts.

00:29:04.920 It hinders you.

00:29:05.620 Yeah.

00:29:05.760 Yeah, it does.

00:29:06.360 Because you think in that box.

00:29:07.860 You'd think that everything's taken care of, where if you start something from scratch, as you know, you do everything.

00:29:14.120 You mop the floors.

00:29:15.080 You make the sales calls.

00:29:16.280 You take all the risks.

00:29:17.880 But that is the American dream.

00:29:20.080 Most exciting thing that you have seen that maybe others have missed or isn't out.

00:29:25.960 What's the most exciting trend line or idea that you have heard that you think is game-changing?

00:29:32.960 Well, I think ultimately the nearest term stuff is going to be like augmented reality.

00:29:36.840 People talk about virtual reality.

00:29:39.000 Augmented reality is just here.

00:29:40.960 Like all these things, you know, all these beautiful things you have here.

00:29:43.980 They didn't have to be here, but they'll just be all projections that you put on glass and you just see there.

00:29:48.660 So that's actually coming.

00:29:50.080 That's actually even more interesting, virtual reality.

00:29:52.660 Because it interacts with real reality.

00:29:55.560 What do you have to wear, glasses?

00:29:57.140 Glasses.

00:29:58.200 But maybe contacts after a while.

00:30:00.480 It's really interesting.

00:30:02.960 And no one really knows where this is going to go.

00:30:06.000 Right.

00:30:06.280 People can guess.

00:30:07.060 Because ultimately, as we talked about, technology is a tool.

00:30:09.660 Yeah.

00:30:10.100 It's up to, you know, I think one of the things that you mentioned that people on this side versus that side don't understand.

00:30:15.660 Like here in Silicon Valley, here somewhere on a farm, there's no one speaking a common language.

00:30:19.840 Yes.

00:30:20.320 We speak a very different language in Silicon Valley and a very different language here.

00:30:23.840 Yes.

00:30:24.280 Which is, I think, what we need.

00:30:25.920 Like a middle ground, a bridge that speaks.

00:30:28.240 The people don't know.

00:30:30.140 Nobody's talking to the people in the center of the country from Silicon Valley.

00:30:34.340 And so they're just seeing these products roll out.

00:30:36.780 But it's not.

00:30:37.400 It's about fully changing the way you think about everything.

00:30:41.680 And I think the people in the center of the country, A, are going to be thrilled when they see it.

00:30:46.640 And they will find, you know, the guy who did the original radio tube.

00:30:52.820 I'm trying to remember his name.

00:30:54.500 But he made the radio tube, the amplifying tube.

00:30:58.220 He didn't even know what it was for.

00:31:00.840 He didn't have any idea what it was for.

00:31:03.600 Another guy comes along years later named Armstrong.

00:31:07.300 And he says, oh, my gosh, I can amplify sound so you don't have to have headphones anymore.

00:31:13.100 I can use this tube to amplify.

00:31:14.760 The guy who invented it didn't even see that as the application.

00:31:18.420 And that's what's going to happen when you include the rest of the country.

00:31:23.100 And, you know, like, true creator, like, the best inventors are the guys in the garage and playing with stuff, you know.

00:31:28.200 So there's so many out there.

00:31:29.960 I think if there is a closer collaboration of just language, you're going to create all these new entrepreneurs and new inventors out there that don't exist yet.

00:31:38.520 Scariest thing you see on the horizon?

00:31:40.540 In virtual reality, we talked about this before as well.

00:31:46.140 It's amazing what it can be, but also it can be an amazing drug that will just pull you away from reality, which is what a drug does.

00:31:53.200 You know, just escape reality.

00:31:54.620 And then we lose the incentive to go and change to, I think, ultimately, we're all responsible for our lives.

00:32:01.180 And we have to step up and take control and, as your son-in-law, make a choice, right?

00:32:05.580 But if we're always escaping, that doesn't happen.

00:32:07.640 I mean, we lose, I think we'll lose something fundamentally as a human being in that process.

00:32:12.980 So that I'm concerned about.

00:32:14.500 How far are we from perfecting that, you know, the virtual reality?

00:32:18.480 It's here.

00:32:19.280 I mean, it's a matter of mass market.

00:32:20.460 How long before we have the suit where you can feel the pressure of touch?

00:32:25.120 They have that.

00:32:26.080 They do have that already?

00:32:26.960 To make it mass market?

00:32:28.080 Wow.

00:32:29.060 Years?

00:32:29.900 Two years?

00:32:30.700 Like three years?

00:32:31.520 Five years?

00:32:32.000 Ten years?

00:32:32.740 Five years?

00:32:33.700 There's all these interesting things coming out that, yeah, that you can just lose yourself, which is the scary part.

00:32:40.180 Really scary.

00:32:41.000 Yeah.

00:32:41.200 Because there's a lot of people that want to lose themselves.

00:32:44.820 And I think that could hold us back as human beings and as a society.

00:32:49.340 How concerned are you with the gathering of so much information?

00:32:56.640 Not that anybody is doing it in a nefarious way now, but all you need is an excuse.

00:33:03.800 And all of a sudden, the government can take this.

00:33:07.260 Yeah.

00:33:07.340 You know, it's like civil liberties are very easy to take away and very hard to get.

00:33:12.640 You know, we've halved them and we've lost some of them and we're going to lose more.

00:33:17.540 Everyone, like most people we were talking about earlier, people I know in Silicon Valley, they don't use SMS.

00:33:21.800 They use these secure messaging apps that are just, you know, not that we have anything to hide.

00:33:28.000 Yeah.

00:33:28.180 But if it tells you the people at the forefront are thinking this way.

00:33:30.880 I use confide.

00:33:32.320 Is that the kind of thing you're talking about?

00:33:33.640 I use signal.

00:33:34.380 Signal.

00:33:34.940 Yeah.

00:33:35.100 And really, like whenever I go through TSA, I always get put it aside, get padded.

00:33:40.040 I don't care.

00:33:40.860 I have nothing to hide.

00:33:41.640 But still, you start thinking, like if these things are happening, where's it going to go next?

00:33:46.380 Yeah.

00:33:46.680 As long as I don't lose due process, I don't mind any frisk.

00:33:49.900 If I lose due process, then I'm in trouble.

00:33:52.600 Right?

00:33:52.820 Same thing with collecting information.

00:33:54.080 It's very innocuous.

00:33:54.860 But then everyone is being passively being spied on.

00:33:58.800 And then you can basically, you have control over everyone when you know what they're doing.

00:34:03.200 I've only got a couple seconds left with you, but let me ask you this.

00:34:06.300 The, you know, we're talking about fake news.

00:34:09.580 And the answer to that is everybody needs to be more responsible.

00:34:12.240 And we've done it before.

00:34:13.060 I mean, fake news has been around since the town criers, you know, ancient Rome.

00:34:17.460 They had fake news.

00:34:18.280 You can count on it.

00:34:20.360 We have to be more responsible as human beings and more engaged and discerning.

00:34:25.400 I've talked to even Ted Koppel said to me in an interview, he said, don't you think that we need to license people who have these websites and blogs and journalism?

00:34:35.340 And I said, no, but that's where a lot of people will start heading as things, you know, continue down this path.

00:34:43.620 Yeah, they already are.

00:34:44.960 So can you shut, can people shut the internet and information down?

00:34:52.940 Do you think that's possible at this point?

00:34:54.660 When you said people, you mean.

00:34:55.940 Do you think a government could come in and really shut down the freedoms that we have online?

00:35:02.080 Sure, look at China.

00:35:02.900 You know, they have an entire, you know, full-time job there, shutting it down.

00:35:08.300 They do a pretty decent job, you know, and you do it, you know, all of it's done step by step.

00:35:12.700 That's the scary part, you know, it's like when you put a frog and you boil it slowly.

00:35:16.740 That's what scares me, right?

00:35:18.040 So that's why I'm a big believer in civil liberties and due process is that, you know, at least we have the system of law where you can challenge that.

00:35:25.420 When you can no longer challenge a secret court, that's when we have problems.

00:35:28.960 The name of the book is Rebirth, Kamal Ravikant.

00:35:33.480 I can't recommend it highly enough.

00:35:36.120 Grab it, read it, you'll love it.

00:35:37.780 Rebirth, Kamal Ravikant.

00:35:39.240 Thank you, Kamal.

00:35:39.880 We'll see you again soon.

00:35:40.900 Thank you.

00:35:41.140 Thank you.

00:35:41.600 You bet.

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00:37:24.840 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:37:35.180 Remember when Friday the 13th was, like, fun to, you know, ooh, it's Friday the 13th.

00:37:41.300 Now, it's like, really?

00:37:42.760 Huh.

00:37:44.000 Every day is Friday the 13th.

00:37:47.600 It's true.

00:37:48.360 And more real.

00:37:49.300 Yeah.

00:37:49.600 Right?

00:37:50.140 Right.

00:37:50.560 You might not get a harpoon in the head.

00:37:52.220 But, uh, yeah.

00:37:54.220 Let me just say this.

00:37:55.680 If you're in college, don't be with somebody who's just in their panties in the woods.

00:38:01.020 Because you're all dead.

00:38:01.940 Not a good idea.

00:38:02.560 You start making out in the woods, and it's over.

00:38:04.680 Yeah.

00:38:05.060 It's over.

00:38:05.420 You're in a cabin this weekend someplace in the woods.

00:38:08.020 Forget it.

00:38:08.100 You're dead.

00:38:08.420 Good luck.

00:38:08.700 You're dead.

00:38:09.300 Good luck with that whole thing.

00:38:11.880 Kamal was on with us.

00:38:14.260 Not one of the nicest guys.

00:38:17.280 You know, when you have somebody who is successful at all of that, to have somebody that decent,

00:38:23.180 it's real.

00:38:23.820 Nice to have her.

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00:39:14.900 Hello, America, and welcome to the program.

00:39:18.160 So glad that you are here.

00:39:21.840 We have an audio flashback today that I think is just really satisfying.

00:39:28.520 Liberals loving the fact that they're nuking the Senate filibuster in 2013.

00:39:34.540 Oh, golly, that's not going to be good for them.

00:39:41.240 That's not going to turn out well for them.

00:39:44.140 Also, Elizabeth Warren was all over Ben Carson about whether the Trump family are going to profit from the HUD grants.

00:39:51.500 It may be, if we're really desperate, but we have a really good show lined up for you.

00:40:00.080 It'll air next week sometime, and so we're going to just trudge through this one today,

00:40:04.840 and we have Brad Meltzer joining us right now.

00:40:08.900 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:40:30.560 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:40:36.420 One of my favorite guests on the program is Brad Meltzer.

00:40:40.020 He is the incredible television superstar, author, does, you know, he saves Superman's house.

00:40:51.040 He does all these great things, and then he slums it once in a while with us, and we're glad to have him here.

00:40:58.300 Brad, how are you, sir?

00:40:59.260 I was going to thank you for lowering your standards by having me on.

00:41:03.100 Well, see, then we think alike.

00:41:05.540 We think alike.

00:41:06.560 So, Brad, last time you—

00:41:08.620 You knew me since I had hair.

00:41:10.040 That's how long you know me.

00:41:12.160 The last time you were on, you found or you thought you had found,

00:41:19.300 and you were about to release all the information, the 9-11 flag,

00:41:22.900 the flag that is in that famous picture with the firefighters at the World Trade Center.

00:41:27.160 Most people don't know this, but it was lost or stolen.

00:41:32.000 Which was it, Brad?

00:41:34.320 It was actually—no one knows is the real answer.

00:41:38.220 It went to the hand—the person who actually took it says that someone gave it to her,

00:41:43.360 but no one can verify that part of the story.

00:41:45.440 What we know is she then took it and gave it to someone who was a flag collector.

00:41:51.640 And that flag collector saw me on television talking about that my—

00:41:58.300 And this is an incredible—this is the part I could never tell you them,

00:42:01.080 is that I went to the History Channel.

00:42:03.600 I said to them, I'm going to find artifacts by telling their stories on TV.

00:42:07.060 And I said—they said, what are you going to find?

00:42:08.900 I said, I don't know.

00:42:09.560 But America is going to always surprise us.

00:42:11.760 And I told the story of the flag from 9-11 that the firefighters raised to ground zero.

00:42:15.960 And four days later on our show, Lost History, a man walks into a fire station

00:42:20.520 in Everett, Washington, in Washington State.

00:42:23.820 He says, I saw the show, Lost History.

00:42:25.700 It was four days later of the first show.

00:42:27.960 He says, and I want to bring this flag back.

00:42:29.920 It belongs back here.

00:42:31.460 So I had told you the story that we had found the flag.

00:42:34.060 We authenticated the flag.

00:42:35.040 We got to, on the 15th anniversary of 9-11, unveil that flag in the 9-11 Museum,

00:42:40.300 where it sits to this day under glass.

00:42:42.580 And now kids can go see proof that real heroes exist.

00:42:45.280 But here's the part I can tell you, is when we—when I did the show—

00:42:49.400 Did you have to kill a man to get the—did you have to kill a man to get the flag?

00:42:52.440 I mean, let's soup this story up a bit.

00:42:53.960 I would have killed a man to get that flag.

00:42:56.260 There's no question I wanted that sucker back.

00:42:58.400 Right.

00:42:58.760 But when I told the story on TV, I said I wanted it back for my friend Michelle Heidenberger,

00:43:03.760 who was a flight attendant who died in the Pentagon crash.

00:43:07.440 Wow.

00:43:07.840 And that was who I—I said, I know there were thousands of people who died.

00:43:10.440 I couldn't focus on them all.

00:43:11.380 It was too much horror.

00:43:12.580 But I could focus on my friend.

00:43:13.900 And on TV, I said, I want it back for her.

00:43:16.260 Now the flag comes back.

00:43:17.460 We unveil it at the 9-11 Museum with the head of the museum.

00:43:20.500 The head of the fire department there says to me, Brad, I can't believe it worked.

00:43:23.600 I'm like, I know.

00:43:24.240 I can't believe it either.

00:43:26.240 And when it's done, I said, can I—the guy actually finally stepped forward who brought it in.

00:43:31.860 The guy from Everett.

00:43:32.260 From Everett.

00:43:32.920 Yeah, the guy from Everett wanted his identity as secret.

00:43:35.140 He didn't want anyone to know who he was.

00:43:36.320 He identified himself as a former Marine.

00:43:38.500 But he said now that we unveiled it and the story was out, he wanted to make sure the record was correct.

00:43:43.120 So I went to law enforcement, went to the guys at History Child, said, can I contact him?

00:43:46.260 I want to say thank you on behalf of the American people.

00:43:48.240 And before I called him, before we unveiled it, I called my friend, Michelle Heidenberger's husband, who lost his wife in 9-11.

00:43:56.220 I said, I want you to know we brought it back.

00:43:57.940 We're going to unveil this.

00:43:59.300 And I brought it back for your wife.

00:44:00.820 That's who I did this for.

00:44:01.940 I just want you to know that privately.

00:44:03.880 So now I contact the Marine, and I said, I just want to say thank you on behalf of the American people.

00:44:09.000 And he said to me this, Glenn.

00:44:10.780 He said, I've never told this story on the air anywhere.

00:44:13.220 He said, do you want to know why I returned it?

00:44:15.880 I didn't even ask him.

00:44:16.580 I just said thank you.

00:44:17.360 He said, yeah, I want to know why you brought it back.

00:44:20.240 And he said, because when you were talking on television, you mentioned your friend who died in 9-11.

00:44:25.660 And I just couldn't stop thinking about it when you told that story.

00:44:28.460 And that's why I brought it back as a her.

00:44:30.260 And I was like, that's exactly who I was searching for it for.

00:44:33.760 And it was one of the most amazing endings that if I ever wrote it in one of my thrillers, my editor would say no one will believe it.

00:44:39.360 And if you would have said, I want that back for the 3,000 people who lost their lives on 9-11, that would not have had the effect.

00:44:46.280 It wouldn't have made it down.

00:44:46.900 It just wouldn't have, because we don't respond that way.

00:44:48.960 So tell me, Brad, and I don't want to disparage this guy at all.

00:44:53.440 I mean, what he did was heroic and honorable.

00:44:58.260 Is he a wealthy flag collector or just a guy who collects flags?

00:45:02.720 No, and here's where you're going to do.

00:45:04.200 I did the same thing you just did, which I was like, what did he get that he brought it back, right?

00:45:08.680 Oh, no, I don't think.

00:45:10.080 No, I actually don't think that.

00:45:11.640 I have another question, but go ahead.

00:45:13.920 No, and here's the thing that's going to make you love the guy.

00:45:16.140 You're a bad person, Brad, for thinking that way.

00:45:17.840 You really are, Brad.

00:45:18.800 We're superior.

00:45:20.480 All right, I'm a bad person.

00:45:21.720 You went to my badness.

00:45:23.360 We wanted to have you on today because everybody, you know, they're going into a weekend, and

00:45:27.000 we want them to know you are still better than Brad Meltzer.

00:45:31.800 Yes, than Brad Meltzer.

00:45:34.860 Whatever the bar is, I'm lower than that bar.

00:45:37.840 But here's what happens is we offered a $10,000 reward for bringing it back, and to this day, he won't take the reward.

00:45:47.080 He doesn't want it.

00:45:48.520 He said he just wants to do it because it's the right thing to do.

00:45:51.560 Is it possible?

00:45:52.000 However he got it, everyone doubts, you know, you can say whatever you want, but the guy had the money, the check was already written, and he wouldn't take it, and he still hasn't taken it.

00:46:00.640 Wow.

00:46:01.060 He wouldn't take the reward money, $10,000, and he won't take it.

00:46:04.460 That's really incredible.

00:46:05.140 That's really great.

00:46:06.240 I wonder if it's possible to accept it on his behalf.

00:46:08.600 And the reason I love it is that that's what the flag is, right?

00:46:12.820 It's symbols, and when you go to museums, museums are like giant books.

00:46:17.140 They tell stories.

00:46:18.300 An object, you know, Glenn and I, we always talked about for many years, the power of an object.

00:46:22.860 And an object in a museum is also like a story.

00:46:26.060 And like the best stories, the best stories don't just entertain you.

00:46:30.160 They tell you something about us as people, and they show us what we're capable of.

00:46:34.780 And that's what that artifact is, right?

00:46:37.220 It shows us.

00:46:38.160 It's like a mirror, and it shows us who we are, and it shows us that doing the right thing and being a real hero is possible.

00:46:44.960 And when kids go see in the 9-11 Museum now that flag, they can see what a real hero can do in a real-life situation.

00:46:52.280 So, the Mercury Museum that we have, we have this unbelievable D-Day flag that is just awe-inspiring, landed on the beaches on D-Day.

00:47:07.880 And that flag was supposed to be sold at auction.

00:47:13.940 It was expected to sell for $25,000.

00:47:16.860 It ended up selling for $400 and something.

00:47:21.420 A flag that is not nearly as impressive as the D-Day flag that we have just sold at auction.

00:47:28.880 We just saw it for $575,000.

00:47:31.480 Oh, my gosh.

00:47:31.880 Gosh.

00:47:32.780 How much?

00:47:33.720 What you're saying is that we shouldn't have paid $10,000.

00:47:36.100 Yes.

00:47:36.840 How much do you, A, I don't think it could be sold.

00:47:40.280 It would have to stay in his family to be able to be sold.

00:47:47.260 It would have to stay privately held.

00:47:49.280 And I think it would be grotesque until about 50 years from now.

00:47:55.260 But at some point, I mean, how much do you think that flag would be worth if it was sold on the open market?

00:48:03.460 Well, I can tell you because to get the flag to the museum, we actually found the flag two years ago.

00:48:08.560 It took us a year to authenticate it.

00:48:10.980 The other year was spent trying to extricate it from the insurance claim that was made against it when it went missing.

00:48:18.220 And all that paperwork, it was an insurance company, and Chubb kindly paid the claim, took the money back, and then they were the ones who actually donated to the museum.

00:48:29.340 At this point, I forget the number.

00:48:30.640 Let's say it was $50,000 to $100,000.

00:48:33.080 But obviously that was because that was what was paid in September of 2001.

00:48:39.660 Oh, my gosh.

00:48:40.400 What it's worth now is, you know, it's the most famous – that flag is the most famous flag of the 21st century.

00:48:47.500 And someone said to us, beside the Iwo Jima flag, it's the most recognizable flag that currently exists.

00:48:53.020 Oh, yeah.

00:48:53.600 Wow.

00:48:53.860 It's the flag from 9-11, and the Iwo Jima flag are the two that people know more than any other.

00:48:57.460 Maybe the moon flag, they said, was a third.

00:48:59.340 So, Chubb.

00:48:59.940 Those were it.

00:49:01.280 That one's hard to – that one is hard to retrieve, though.

00:49:04.500 Yeah, no, you're going to – it's going to cost a hell of a lot to get there.

00:49:07.500 Yeah, yeah.

00:49:08.760 The one on the moon?

00:49:09.580 Yeah.

00:49:10.500 Yeah.

00:49:11.580 All you have to do is go to a movie studio in Hollywood and pick that thing up.

00:49:15.840 I was going to say – and by the way, I'm at a studio in Hollywood.

00:49:20.820 I'm literally from Los Angeles today, so I probably can find one cheap for you here.

00:49:24.740 Yeah, I mean, it's still on the soundstage, you know.

00:49:27.820 They put bungee cords on Armstrong, and that's the way they did that.

00:49:32.160 I mean, we all know they didn't actually go to the moon.

00:49:33.720 You've got a new book out.

00:49:38.140 I mean, you are more prolific than I am.

00:49:41.400 What do you write, like 19 books a year?

00:49:43.460 Is that what it is now?

00:49:44.400 Well, the thing is, I started writing children's books because I realized I can write far faster

00:49:48.580 when I just write books with 30 pages in them.

00:49:51.220 And I feel much more accomplished.

00:49:54.120 You've got this one out, and all of them are, you know, I am George Washington, I'm Abe Lincoln, yada, yada.

00:49:59.660 This one is I'm Jim Henson.

00:50:01.680 Why was Henson important for you to do?

00:50:03.800 You know, and listen, it's the same reason why we did this series.

00:50:07.380 It's my kids.

00:50:08.180 When my son, who loves baseball, I did I am Jackie Robinson for him.

00:50:11.980 Because I looked at reality TV stars and people who are famous for being famous,

00:50:15.800 and, you know, our kids are being fed garbage through their eyeballs every day with each refresh.

00:50:21.140 And it's enough.

00:50:22.420 So I gave him I am Jackie Robinson.

00:50:24.120 My daughter loves our dog, loves animals.

00:50:26.800 I did I am Jane Goodall for her.

00:50:28.500 But my son is a creator, loves to color.

00:50:30.860 And I was like, who do I can get that's creative for me?

00:50:32.600 I am Jim Henson.

00:50:33.800 And Jim Henson, you know, for those who don't know, is the creator of The Muppets and Sesame Street.

00:50:38.440 Do you think that—

00:50:39.300 Go ahead.

00:50:40.440 Go ahead.

00:50:41.420 No, I was just going to say, and to me, when I was five years old,

00:50:43.960 Jim Henson on Sesame Street taught me that you could use your creativity to put good into this world.

00:50:48.400 And that's all we're trying to do with this series is I use my own creativity,

00:50:51.680 hoping to try and put a little bit of good in this world by giving our kids real heroes they could look up to.

00:50:55.740 So you're saying I am Kim Kardashian is next.

00:50:58.860 Well, never, ever.

00:51:00.880 I will be a dead man before this happens, right?

00:51:03.140 And we'll kill you if you do it, so.

00:51:05.060 I mean, you thought I would kill for the flag.

00:51:07.440 Right.

00:51:07.920 We'll kill you if you make that book.

00:51:09.640 Brad, Jim Henson, is he the genius because he came up with great characters?

00:51:20.540 He came up with a system?

00:51:22.540 He changed puppets?

00:51:24.320 What is it that you think is his main gift?

00:51:28.420 Yeah, so here are my two.

00:51:29.840 One is I love teaching my kids how he got his start because Jim Henson wanted to be in television.

00:51:36.380 And he wanted, you know, your job.

00:51:38.240 And he wanted to be in TV.

00:51:40.120 And he went to the TV station and said, you know, kind of a job.

00:51:44.240 They said, no, he was dejected.

00:51:45.680 He was devastated.

00:51:46.480 And he saw an ad that they had for puppeteers.

00:51:50.140 Went to the library, checked out a book on puppetry, came back to the exact same place and says, I'm a puppeteer.

00:51:54.900 Will you hire me?

00:51:56.160 And I want my kids to know that if you see an obstacle, you go around it.

00:52:01.360 My kids need, you know, our kids today, they don't learn that.

00:52:04.340 We create these paper-thin kids and a wind blows and they get knocked over.

00:52:07.780 And so that's one.

00:52:08.700 It's like, you know, Kermit the Frog and Ernie, and those are fine, but it's how you get there.

00:52:12.760 You have to fail.

00:52:14.140 And that's how you rise.

00:52:15.600 And the bigger thing, though, for me when it comes to the Muppets is, you know, listen, the Muppets and Ernie and Bert, they're nostalgia.

00:52:23.680 And nostalgia is a trap.

00:52:25.140 Just because it's old doesn't mean it's good.

00:52:26.600 But when I went back and looked at it, what I love about Jim Henson is his strength is not that he does a funny voice or that he does a cute song.

00:52:35.180 What I love is that there's an undercurrent that cuts through the Muppets and Sesame Street, and it's the idea about being good, that being good and kindness and generosity and creating and dreaming, these are ideas that should never get old.

00:52:50.620 And I will never apologize for being a do-gooder.

00:52:53.020 I think we apologize for that today.

00:52:54.480 We make it like something that you should look down on.

00:52:55.980 I will never, ever apologize for being a do-gooder.

00:52:58.760 And I love that Jim Henson stands for that.

00:53:01.080 And I think especially where we are in this world right now, we need to remind our kids that you don't need a reality show.

00:53:07.220 You don't need to be famous for being famous.

00:53:09.460 Just do good to other people, right?

00:53:11.820 We go to the Bible for it, right?

00:53:13.760 It's as biblical as it gets.

00:53:15.360 And that's the undercurrent and the beauty of what he offered is he fed that message to everyone through, of all things, little green puppets and talking frogs.

00:53:23.880 You can follow Brad Meltzer at Brad Meltzer, and his new book is I Am Jim Henson.

00:53:32.120 It's a children's book with 30 pages, and it's really good.

00:53:34.840 The whole series is really good.

00:53:36.620 And one of the best guests we can ever have because he always brings something really fascinating from history onto the program with.

00:53:43.400 You know what?

00:53:43.980 You're like the guy that used to bring the monkey on Johnny Carson.

00:53:48.900 That's who you are.

00:53:49.720 I'm just without the monkey.

00:53:51.160 I'm just the, or maybe I am.

00:53:52.100 That's all right.

00:53:52.500 I got to tell you this.

00:53:53.740 This is the craziest thing that happened, and I know you'll appreciate it.

00:53:56.160 Okay, hang on, hang on, because I've got to take a network break, and then we'll come back and be a tester.

00:53:59.760 Okay.

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00:54:16.100 Yeah.

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00:55:18.000 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:55:30.480 If you owe over $10,000 in back taxes or have unfiled tax returns, we can help you take back control.

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00:55:58.920 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:56:03.040 Welcome to the program.

00:56:04.200 Brad Meltzer is back with us.

00:56:06.600 Brad.

00:56:09.180 Brad, are you there?

00:56:10.420 Yep.

00:56:10.900 I'm here.

00:56:11.480 Calling all Brads.

00:56:12.680 Yep, I'm here.

00:56:13.520 Are you there?

00:56:14.900 Can you hear me?

00:56:16.200 I love you.

00:56:16.860 Can you hear me?

00:56:18.060 Okay, good.

00:56:18.680 We got it.

00:56:19.000 Yours now?

00:56:20.880 So, I'm sorry, Brad.

00:56:22.020 It's Friday, and we're all screwing off.

00:56:24.740 I understand.

00:56:25.680 Yeah.

00:56:25.980 So, you were talking about something that we weren't really paying attention to?

00:56:30.720 Yes.

00:56:31.220 No.

00:56:31.460 Well, why should today be any different than any other day, right?

00:56:34.100 Right.

00:56:35.540 You know, we call that usually Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday.

00:56:38.600 So, this is something that I actually thought you of all people would appreciate, and that

00:56:44.200 is, you know, we love talking about how history and its impact, and, you know, history

00:56:48.300 is not just a collection of the best stories, but it's us.

00:56:52.020 That's what history is.

00:56:53.060 And one of the things we realized as we were telling these in our I Am books, so here we

00:56:59.040 put them out.

00:56:59.580 We want to give parents a way to teach their kids and give them real heroes.

00:57:02.840 As the run-up to the election is happening, all of a sudden, there's a spike in our series

00:57:08.380 of kids' books, and we're like, what's going on?

00:57:11.540 And I'm not talking about, like, a little spike of, like, 10%.

00:57:13.500 We're up 91% from the year before as the election is coming, and we're like, what's

00:57:18.240 going on?

00:57:18.660 We did no more promotion, no more advertising.

00:57:20.680 And in the week of the election, there's a spike in two books in particular.

00:57:25.640 I am Martin Luther King Jr., and I am Rosa Parks.

00:57:28.620 And we know right there in that moment, and I know, you know, we can claim it's a Democrat-Republican

00:57:32.760 thing, but it's basically families on both sides who are looking at TV every night and

00:57:37.180 saying, I don't want my kids looking anymore at politicians.

00:57:39.460 I need to show my kids, forget politicians, I need to show my kids leaders.

00:57:43.160 And they start buying.

00:57:44.320 And I can tell you this, that since Donald Trump has been elected, I am Martin Luther

00:57:49.040 King Jr. has become our number one male hero that we do.

00:57:53.660 And in fact, today on Amazon, right before I got on here, it's sold out.

00:57:56.740 And as he's been going up, it's amazing.

00:58:00.840 All these parents on both sides are buying these stories of compassion and these stories

00:58:05.320 of tolerance to give their kids.

00:58:07.540 And what I love about it is it's not a Republican-Democrat thing.

00:58:11.260 It's that families out there realize that whoever's there, that there's a difference between a

00:58:16.060 politician and a leader, and it's in our hands that we need to teach our kids the better

00:58:19.800 way to do things.

00:58:20.580 And I love that that power is out there.

00:58:23.200 And it's just, it's a mathematical fact.

00:58:25.300 I love it.

00:58:25.760 Can I ask you a question about, there's a video out there with you and Barbara Bush

00:58:31.620 where you has dressed as Lucy, and because your book, The I Am Lucy, and she is there

00:58:39.820 and you recreate the chocolate belt, you know, episode with you playing Lucy and Barbara Bush.

00:58:47.520 How did you get, did you threaten to throw her out of the plane or?

00:58:52.120 One minute.

00:58:52.440 One minute, one minute.

00:58:55.080 One minute.

00:58:55.760 Basically, we recreated the chocolate conveyor belt scene with former first lady and for

00:58:59.880 literacy.

00:59:00.280 We did it for my book, I Am Lucille Ball.

00:59:02.240 The best part of it was, is the staff didn't tell her what she was doing.

00:59:06.780 So she's like, what are we doing, Brad?

00:59:07.960 And I said, oh my gosh, I have to tell this lady now that I'm going to eat a thousand chocolates

00:59:11.520 in the president's office.

00:59:12.520 So she's reading, I Am Lucille Ball, I'm eating a thousand chocolates.

00:59:17.260 And the best part of the whole thing is when it's done, she's like, she's so funny in the

00:59:21.460 video.

00:59:21.720 So put him, Brad Meltzer and Lucille Ball into YouTube.

00:59:24.500 But at the end of it, she says, how are you doing?

00:59:26.660 I said, I'm doing so great.

00:59:28.240 I had the biggest sugar rush I ever had in my life.

00:59:30.880 I'm eating a thousand chocolates.

00:59:31.860 So I had new respect for Lucille Ball, who must have eaten a thousand chocolates herself.

00:59:37.020 Brad, always good to talk to you.

00:59:38.680 Thank you so much.

00:59:39.440 Have a great weekend.

00:59:40.120 Thank you, my friend.

00:59:40.780 All right.

00:59:41.100 Back in just a second.

00:59:54.760 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:59:58.720 That's right.

01:00:01.860 Welcome to the program.

01:00:08.960 I want you to remember this phrase during this next portion of the program.

01:00:15.940 I am not the man I want to be.

01:00:19.160 I'm not the man I need to be.

01:00:21.240 But I'm not the man I was.

01:00:23.500 It's beautiful.

01:00:24.940 Okay.

01:00:25.460 I want everybody to remember that.

01:00:27.560 Because we're going to talk about the Jeffy of Pakistan.

01:00:30.240 Now, this is a man who is, I mean, he's not quite Jeffy, but he's working on it.

01:00:38.460 Yes.

01:00:38.780 He's working on it.

01:00:40.200 He's half a ton.

01:00:42.080 What?

01:00:42.940 68 stone, which I had to look it up because I have no idea the British stone.

01:00:48.620 Translates to about 900.

01:00:51.740 952 pounds.

01:00:52.820 Right.

01:00:53.400 Thank you for knowing that.

01:00:54.660 Right.

01:00:54.920 Well, I know my stones.

01:00:57.380 That's very impressive.

01:00:58.280 I passed a few.

01:00:58.960 Yeah.

01:00:59.340 The guy eats seven pounds of meat every day.

01:01:04.600 He eats 36 eggs just for breakfast.

01:01:07.580 Three dozen eggs.

01:01:08.380 36 eggs for breakfast.

01:01:12.260 He drinks a gallon and a half every day of milk.

01:01:15.780 Yeah.

01:01:15.940 You don't get to 952 pounds by not eating 37 eggs for breakfast.

01:01:21.360 That's right.

01:01:22.100 Oh, no.

01:01:23.160 Really?

01:01:23.940 Because, I mean, now, wait a minute.

01:01:25.060 Because, all right, seven pounds of meat is a lot of meat.

01:01:27.180 I'm wrong.

01:01:27.600 It's a lot of meat.

01:01:28.680 Every person.

01:01:30.100 36 eggs is a lot of eggs.

01:01:32.080 That's what I'm saying.

01:01:32.860 Every normal fat guy has eaten, let's say, a pound of meat at dinner.

01:01:41.060 Yes.

01:01:41.460 In a single sitting.

01:01:42.480 Oh, my gosh.

01:01:43.420 So, okay.

01:01:44.580 So, that's a normal person.

01:01:47.780 So, you have to do that for every meal, right?

01:01:50.460 And that gets you to three pounds.

01:01:52.420 The guy's 900 pounds.

01:01:53.620 He can do double, right, what a normal person would do.

01:01:56.460 I don't think it's this.

01:01:57.160 You can see getting to seven pounds.

01:01:58.400 Well, it's not even remotely close to get to 36 eggs in one meal.

01:02:03.520 No.

01:02:03.660 I mean, that's incredible.

01:02:06.860 Yeah, you never, you never, you will never hear him say, oh, no, I've had enough.

01:02:11.640 Well, unless he gets to 36 eggs, then he's like, yeah, you know what?

01:02:14.420 I don't, I do not need that.

01:02:15.800 I mean, what does this guy do to be able, it's ridiculous.

01:02:17.680 Seriously, what does this guy do to be able to afford this life?

01:02:21.060 That's what I was wondering, too, because you hear about these incredibly large people

01:02:24.200 that eat this kind of quantity, and I don't know.

01:02:26.560 You can't work.

01:02:27.380 Well, they don't go anywhere.

01:02:28.400 Is there any information that raises food for them?

01:02:31.520 I don't know.

01:02:32.300 Well, like, The Rock is able to do it, but I understand how he pays for it.

01:02:36.820 How does the Jeffy of Pakistan pay for that?

01:02:40.740 Well, I mean, in the story, he works for it.

01:02:43.940 He does work for it, right?

01:02:45.120 Yeah, he does.

01:02:45.600 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:02:46.960 I want to seriously know.

01:02:49.040 A 900-pound man can move?

01:02:51.100 Oh, he's, oh, yeah.

01:02:52.480 If this guy is actually moving.

01:02:54.120 He's supposed to be really strong, too.

01:02:55.460 And he, like they said, he can stop a trailer, a tractor.

01:02:59.880 If you run into him?

01:03:01.820 No.

01:03:02.860 They attach, they tie a rope around the tractor, and then he holds onto the rope, and then the

01:03:08.240 tractor tries to back away.

01:03:09.820 That's just a sad tractor.

01:03:12.000 I don't know.

01:03:12.780 Maybe.

01:03:13.320 Maybe it's not John Deere.

01:03:14.180 That's really, I mean, that shows you where the entertainment level is in Pakistan, where

01:03:18.840 they're like, hey, get the local fat guy.

01:03:21.520 See if he can stop the tractor.

01:03:23.580 He claims to have lifted 10,000 pounds in some Japanese competition.

01:03:27.860 Are you sure you just didn't fall for some, like, really bad superhero movie promotion?

01:03:31.800 Like, they're just, like, leaking videos of, like, some of this fat guy.

01:03:35.100 I'd be surprised if he's 952 pounds and moving.

01:03:39.280 I mean, I can see him.

01:03:40.080 Well, he's 6'3", so he carries it really well.

01:03:43.000 Oh, he carries it really well.

01:03:43.780 Well, I mean, there's not very many of us athletically overweight people around.

01:03:48.160 Seriously, people don't know this.

01:03:49.580 Jeffy is five pounds away.

01:03:51.140 He loses five pounds.

01:03:52.500 He's totally cut.

01:03:53.840 That's solid muscle underneath him.

01:03:56.500 Yeah.

01:03:57.340 What do you think about an experiment in which we see if, hang on, hang on, hang on.

01:04:02.540 I'm not the man I want to be.

01:04:04.880 I'm not the man I need to be.

01:04:06.360 Right.

01:04:06.820 But I'm not the man I was.

01:04:08.480 Oh, okay.

01:04:09.100 I mean, I understand.

01:04:12.120 Just wanted you to think of that before you make this comment.

01:04:15.360 Oh, no, this is not bad.

01:04:16.380 Okay.

01:04:16.700 So, Jeffy, I was thinking, because the guy's stopping a vehicle, right?

01:04:22.220 Yeah.

01:04:22.460 Because he's so big.

01:04:23.660 What if we attempted to do the same with Jeffy?

01:04:27.160 Minor twist on it.

01:04:28.660 We would just drive the car at him and to see if he stopped it when the contact was made.

01:04:34.740 Right.

01:04:34.900 Or would the car continue to go?

01:04:36.560 Well, it's science.

01:04:37.680 It's science.

01:04:38.580 If the car continued to go, then.

01:04:40.820 It would never get over him.

01:04:42.780 It would be like one of those things where the front of the car.

01:04:45.620 Oh, my gosh.

01:04:46.160 I'm not the man I want to be.

01:04:47.200 I'm not the man.

01:04:48.540 See?

01:04:48.860 It's good that I remember that because I started to play.

01:04:52.220 You did.

01:04:53.000 I started to play.

01:04:54.740 And for us, we're still stuck on the science of the whole thing.

01:04:57.600 So, how do you get to 900 pounds without an enabler?

01:05:02.720 Well, you have to have an enabler because at some point.

01:05:05.000 You have one.

01:05:05.800 Your wife.

01:05:06.420 At some.

01:05:06.920 Well, but.

01:05:07.680 Not to that level.

01:05:08.540 No.

01:05:08.960 Because it.

01:05:09.460 She doesn't want you a buck over 800.

01:05:11.660 Right.

01:05:12.160 And she does appreciate me actually being able to move.

01:05:16.300 Right.

01:05:16.960 You know, even.

01:05:17.660 Just not real fast.

01:05:18.660 Because he has to.

01:05:20.500 But I'm just saying at some point.

01:05:22.580 You're not the man you used to be.

01:05:26.460 However, I stopped it.

01:05:27.820 Right.

01:05:28.320 So.

01:05:29.540 I'm just saying.

01:05:30.360 If you become.

01:05:31.080 You know.

01:05:31.800 Look.

01:05:32.660 By the time you're 900 pounds.

01:05:36.400 And you haven't.

01:05:36.980 And you're just not moving.

01:05:38.840 You've worked up to that.

01:05:40.340 You don't just work up to me.

01:05:42.140 It's like me going.

01:05:43.600 You know.

01:05:44.020 It takes a couple days.

01:05:45.320 At one point you lay there.

01:05:47.180 And you lay there for a couple of days.

01:05:49.200 And then you decide.

01:05:50.120 Oh, I got to get up.

01:05:50.860 And you get up.

01:05:51.820 And you bathe.

01:05:52.440 And you move.

01:05:53.060 And you realize.

01:05:53.940 I'm going to lay down for a couple more days.

01:05:55.860 Now, what's that?

01:05:56.300 What is that?

01:05:57.060 That's probably 500 pounds.

01:05:58.460 You work up.

01:05:59.020 Yeah.

01:05:59.180 I mean, you work up to.

01:06:00.220 And you have to really.

01:06:01.040 It's like the Iron Man.

01:06:02.500 You have to reach a point.

01:06:04.400 I mean, you say.

01:06:05.600 Oh, I could do that.

01:06:06.800 Yeah.

01:06:07.040 But.

01:06:07.320 I could do that.

01:06:08.200 No, you couldn't.

01:06:08.840 Because at some point.

01:06:10.140 I mean, really.

01:06:10.920 You do reach.

01:06:11.920 It's about four.

01:06:14.060 Four or five hundred pounds.

01:06:15.500 Where you have to make that.

01:06:17.680 Commitment.

01:06:18.220 Make that cut.

01:06:19.060 You can tell.

01:06:19.700 He's done serious consideration.

01:06:21.820 I'm going to go for it.

01:06:22.840 Or I'm going to actually not go for it.

01:06:24.820 Because at one point.

01:06:26.340 It's like, just bring me chickens and wipe me off.

01:06:28.800 Oh, my gosh.

01:06:29.560 There it is.

01:06:30.400 There he is.

01:06:31.240 Just bring me chickens and wipe me off.

01:06:32.140 Okay.

01:06:32.600 There he is.

01:06:33.220 Nine.

01:06:33.520 We're seeing a picture now.

01:06:34.320 I'm seeing.

01:06:35.620 And 52 pounds.

01:06:36.400 This is incredible.

01:06:38.640 Is that amazing?

01:06:39.160 That he's big.

01:06:39.660 That he can move.

01:06:40.360 That he can move.

01:06:41.240 And dress in apparently renaissance clothing.

01:06:44.920 I don't know why.

01:06:46.660 But they didn't have skinny jeans for the guy.

01:06:48.820 He's 900 pounds.

01:06:49.260 No, I mean, it's the renaissance clothing.

01:06:51.000 Basically, they're like six blankets thrown over him.

01:06:54.980 That's how you dress.

01:06:56.040 That's how you dress.

01:06:56.560 That's how you dress.

01:06:56.860 952.

01:06:57.480 That's good living at 952.

01:06:59.180 Yeah.

01:06:59.820 Can I tell you something?

01:07:00.660 For 900 pounds?

01:07:02.240 He looks good.

01:07:02.980 He's actually good.

01:07:04.580 He's athletically over.

01:07:05.540 He's probably not 900 pounds.

01:07:07.420 Says he's 68 stone.

01:07:08.360 I don't care what it says.

01:07:09.540 I'm just saying that, you know, the scales are off in Pakistan.

01:07:12.860 I cede to Jeffy here.

01:07:14.100 He would know this particular topic well.

01:07:16.160 I mean, he's looking at that.

01:07:17.240 That guy is at 900.

01:07:18.420 I mean this sincerely.

01:07:20.100 Muscle is heavier than fat.

01:07:22.880 So maybe he's, I mean, they were saying he is really strong.

01:07:25.660 Maybe he's like a bodybuilder under the layers.

01:07:27.860 Well, he's got, he's over the, one of the blankets.

01:07:30.480 He's got like a, you know, world wrestling belt or, you know, look at that.

01:07:34.740 He wants, in fact, that's one of his goals is to be

01:07:38.240 in the WWE.

01:07:40.600 Another.

01:07:41.100 You would kill a man.

01:07:42.560 Another, another of his goals is to be the world weightlifting champion.

01:07:47.240 So he wants to be.

01:07:48.820 I love this fat man.

01:07:49.840 I know.

01:07:50.480 He's got some ambition.

01:07:51.340 I mean, he's a guy with goals.

01:07:52.600 He's only 25.

01:07:54.320 Oh, that's sad.

01:07:56.600 You sold this segment completely wrong.

01:07:58.820 He was a Pakistani Jeffy.

01:08:00.740 I mean, Jeff, Jeffy's not strong.

01:08:03.100 He has no ambition.

01:08:04.160 No ambition.

01:08:05.080 He's old.

01:08:05.640 I mean, every other thing other than the weight is different.

01:08:09.120 He's probably, like, and he really has high ethical standards.

01:08:12.780 His story is funny.

01:08:14.260 That guy's story is sad.

01:08:16.020 Right.

01:08:16.560 Yeah.

01:08:17.200 He's going to die young.

01:08:18.900 Jeffy's story is pretty sad.

01:08:19.740 I'll say that.

01:08:21.100 I mean.

01:08:21.540 No.

01:08:21.960 He deserves it.

01:08:22.760 But there is a difference between sad and pathetic.

01:08:24.580 I see.

01:08:25.360 I am not the man.

01:08:26.340 Not the man.

01:08:26.980 I want to be.

01:08:28.220 At least I will say this, though, for Jeffy.

01:08:30.000 He can still move so that when his wife says, get off me, he still can.

01:08:35.820 You had to get it out, didn't you?

01:08:37.580 You couldn't help yourself.

01:08:38.760 You couldn't.

01:08:39.740 It was too good.

01:08:41.620 He's like my 14-year-old son.

01:08:43.660 You tell him, stop.

01:08:44.500 Don't.

01:08:44.800 Don't do that.

01:08:45.540 You still got to plow through.

01:08:47.600 Still got to plow through.

01:08:48.860 You still got to plow through.

01:08:48.880 If there's more in there.

01:08:55.220 He was going to explode.

01:08:57.840 Jeffy.

01:08:58.880 Jeffy.

01:08:59.600 He would have exploded.

01:09:01.440 It was a safety measure.

01:09:02.960 It was.

01:09:04.140 There would have been pat meat all over all of us in the studio.

01:09:07.800 It would have been bad.

01:09:11.880 Oh, well, then.

01:09:12.740 Thank you.

01:09:13.240 You're welcome.

01:09:13.980 Yeah, you're welcome.

01:09:16.640 Seriously, when you're 900 pounds.

01:09:18.140 I mean, like, how big are you when you can't, when you literally, you know, you begin to

01:09:21.940 not be able to walk or get out of bed?

01:09:23.700 Jeffy?

01:09:24.960 Well, the first time was at 642.

01:09:26.840 No, seriously.

01:09:27.460 About 600 pounds?

01:09:28.760 I'd say 5, 600, right?

01:09:30.360 Yeah.

01:09:31.080 Depends on how tall you are.

01:09:32.440 Yeah, and at that point, you know, you're starting to maybe not move a day or two.

01:09:39.180 And then that just adds on.

01:09:40.900 Now you're a domino effect.

01:09:43.460 You're not moving.

01:09:45.400 I mean, you're eating and you're getting hosed off.

01:09:47.780 You're getting hosed off.

01:09:49.180 Hopefully, you know, every other day or so.

01:09:51.460 Well, this guy, if he's walking around at 900, he's probably taking showers, right?

01:09:55.540 Yeah, he's not 900 pounds.

01:09:57.160 I think he says it is.

01:09:58.240 Are you really a truther on this topic?

01:10:00.780 What are you talking about?

01:10:01.760 The guy's gigantic.

01:10:03.220 He's gigantic.

01:10:04.020 I don't care.

01:10:04.460 He's not 900 pounds.

01:10:04.960 I mean, he is a mountain of a man.

01:10:06.760 He is.

01:10:07.740 And put it up again.

01:10:09.740 He's completely round.

01:10:11.660 Yeah.

01:10:12.000 I don't care.

01:10:12.280 He's not 900 pounds.

01:10:14.000 He's moving around like that.

01:10:15.120 Now, if there's something behind him holding him up or there is a crane underneath his

01:10:20.200 arms, underneath those blankets, holding him up, that I believe that he's 900 pounds.

01:10:24.600 Well, what do you think he is?

01:10:26.280 I mean, seven.

01:10:27.620 Put a blanket on.

01:10:28.420 Let's put a blanket on, Jeffy.

01:10:30.100 Let's see if we can.

01:10:33.020 Let's stress him like that.

01:10:34.540 Like we did with the guy with the toes on his chest.

01:10:36.020 You got a blanket.

01:10:37.160 Here, stand up, Jeffy.

01:10:38.720 Somebody get a fire department in here.

01:10:41.140 Get Jeffy up.

01:10:43.060 I don't want that nasty.

01:10:44.180 Look at this.

01:10:44.980 Look at what's happening.

01:10:46.360 I'm blanking around me.

01:10:47.100 It's very warm.

01:10:47.940 Yeah.

01:10:48.180 Is that okay?

01:10:48.700 No, that's your butt blanket.

01:10:50.940 Well, I mean, it's a blanket.

01:10:52.520 You're the only man I know that uses a butt warmer.

01:10:55.780 Oh, look at the time.

01:10:56.520 Time to break.

01:10:57.440 Boy, I like this blanket.

01:11:00.160 It's 12 degrees in here.

01:11:01.960 I'm not the man I want to be.

01:11:05.520 Well, I'm not.

01:11:06.200 Why do you say that so sarcastically?

01:11:08.620 Yeah, Jeffy.

01:11:09.120 We're not the men we want to be.

01:11:11.140 We're not the men.

01:11:13.540 I need to be.

01:11:14.600 We need to be.

01:11:17.080 But not the man I was.

01:11:20.080 You guys clearly are the men you were.

01:11:23.360 But this is the men I want to be.

01:11:27.120 You know, at what point did you just give up on?

01:11:31.440 You're just like, I'm as good as I'm going to get, and I'm good with that.

01:11:34.340 I believe it was probably Romney-Obama in that general vicinity, and since then, it's been screwing.

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01:11:57.580 There is nothing like the peace of mind that comes from owning a liberty safe.

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01:12:06.260 They're built here in America.

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01:12:11.440 How many years?

01:12:12.420 Oh, wow.

01:12:12.820 Ten years?

01:12:13.460 Yeah, a long, long time.

01:12:15.260 Yeah.

01:12:15.640 When they joined us, they were an American company that, you know, had been making safes for a while.

01:12:20.960 They believed in the same things that we believed in.

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01:13:17.120 We are one time.

01:13:19.380 The Glenn Beck Program.

01:13:22.280 Mercury.

01:13:23.960 The Glenn Beck Program.

01:13:28.700 This is why you have the Blaze TV.

01:13:32.300 This is why.

01:13:33.160 I mean.

01:13:34.000 Yeah, we have now.

01:13:35.300 There's Jeffy with blankets on him.

01:13:37.940 All right.

01:13:38.240 Just like the guy in Pakistan.

01:13:40.020 Pakistan.

01:13:40.660 Who weighs 68 stone or 952.

01:13:43.480 Okay, let me see.

01:13:44.100 Could you put him?

01:13:44.640 There he is.

01:13:45.180 Now put him side by side with the guy who weighs 900 pounds in blankets.

01:13:50.660 I mean, it's identical.

01:13:52.820 The main difference is the color of the blankets are different.

01:13:56.160 That's about the one.

01:13:56.940 I have to tell you, I don't think the weight is wrong.

01:14:01.040 Jeffy weighs 900 pounds.

01:14:02.920 The other guy's about 700.

01:14:05.800 Yeah.

01:14:06.360 I believe he weighs 900 pounds.

01:14:08.080 Jeffy just weighs 900 pounds too.

01:14:10.380 Look at your arms out a little bit.

01:14:11.480 I think that's a...

01:14:12.660 Yeah, look at that.

01:14:13.520 I mean...

01:14:13.920 Oh my gosh, yes.

01:14:15.200 Oh yeah.

01:14:15.580 There's no way that guy weighs 900 pounds.

01:14:17.300 No way.

01:14:17.680 They could be twins, these two people.

01:14:19.580 Yeah.

01:14:19.800 It's as if we 3D printed the Pakistani guy and put him in the studio.

01:14:24.140 Unless that's a very light fabric that he's only wearing like a very light fabric in the

01:14:35.280 brown and a very light gray top.

01:14:38.360 So it's not like the bulk of the blankets.

01:14:41.840 So maybe those aren't blankets.

01:14:43.760 This is much more fun than talking about some hearing in Congress.

01:14:48.260 And quite honestly, more meaningful.

01:14:51.380 Yes.

01:14:52.000 Probably.

01:14:53.320 Well, there's no way.

01:14:54.060 There is no way that that guy weighs 900 pounds.

01:14:56.540 I think he does.

01:14:57.860 You're jealous of him, aren't you?

01:14:59.520 You are jealous.

01:15:00.400 You're jealous of him.

01:15:01.520 Because you can't believe he's still walking around at 950 pounds.

01:15:05.420 How do you weigh...

01:15:06.580 How do you eat what he eats and weigh that much money or weigh that much weight and then

01:15:12.720 and be healthy at all?

01:15:16.300 Be able to do...

01:15:17.260 Can you imagine the stress on your heart?

01:15:18.360 Oh my gosh.

01:15:19.480 You're questioning, you think he might be healthy?

01:15:21.680 No, but I mean, he's moving.

01:15:24.080 For somebody who's weighing 900 pounds, you know, you're moving.

01:15:28.440 And you can, you can, you can, I mean, in his own way, move in an athletic sort of way.

01:15:35.560 Right.

01:15:36.120 Well, I guess sumo wrestlers, right?

01:15:37.660 We haven't seen him move, actually.

01:15:39.480 I mean, and where he doesn't...

01:15:41.560 I'm telling you, he's given 900 pound people a bad name.

01:15:46.420 You're saying he's lying about being 900 pounds.

01:15:49.180 This is how he's getting his notoriety.

01:15:50.620 How else do you get known in America when you're a Pakistani fat guy, other than saying

01:15:54.300 you weigh 900 pounds?

01:15:55.120 952 pounds.

01:15:56.260 Jeffy is known all over Europe, Israel.

01:15:58.980 Right, but that's because he's 952 pounds.

01:16:01.020 Yeah.

01:16:02.500 Right?

01:16:02.820 I mean, that's how it happens, right?

01:16:06.000 There was a story in a Pakistani paper about the American, this guy, and they wrote about

01:16:14.360 how this, how Jeffy could still move, too.

01:16:17.440 No, seriously.

01:16:18.220 No.

01:16:20.820 They're like, this guy, and he's pissed off.

01:16:22.680 He's like, that guy is not 400 pounds.

01:16:26.880 He is much heavier.

01:16:28.760 When his wife says, get off me, he still can.

01:16:32.000 That was their lead.

01:16:33.220 That was their lead paragraph.

01:16:35.040 That's it?

01:16:35.580 Yeah.

01:16:35.780 They didn't bury the lead.

01:16:36.800 It was right at the top.

01:16:37.940 So, how does he make money, you ask?

01:16:40.580 Sell shade at the beach.

01:16:43.740 Oh, really?

01:16:44.340 Wow, that's hurtful.

01:16:45.800 That is hurtful.

01:16:46.500 Yeah, what did that guy do to you?

01:16:48.740 Holy cow.

01:16:50.200 Just because he's heavy, you don't have to make fun of him, Jeffy.

01:16:52.940 My gosh.

01:16:55.360 Compassion, man.

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01:17:48.800 Hello, America, and welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:17:51.420 It's Friday the 13th.

01:17:52.860 Weird stuff to get to in the news today.

01:17:57.580 Pat, what do you have?

01:17:59.480 Quick.

01:18:00.140 We have a vid angel, which is trying to stay alive.

01:18:04.860 Are you familiar with vid angel?

01:18:05.820 Yes, I am familiar with it.

01:18:06.840 This is, do you have the right, or does anyone have the right, to edit something they have purchased if it's a movie?

01:18:17.040 Is it legal?

01:18:18.260 And the answer seems to be yes, a definitive yes.

01:18:22.380 And a lot of people are saying it's shady.

01:18:23.740 No, to you.

01:18:24.680 Definitive?

01:18:25.200 Definitive.

01:18:25.760 It's being sued by every company on earth.

01:18:27.440 To you.

01:18:27.900 Wait till you hear.

01:18:28.860 Wait till you hear.

01:18:29.760 Really?

01:18:30.300 I think you'll agree.

01:18:31.260 I believe the Supreme Court is going to disagree.

01:18:34.240 We'll see.

01:18:34.780 On that.

01:18:35.600 They might.

01:18:35.940 Also, Stu, your weird Friday the 13th.

01:18:41.600 Go ahead.

01:18:42.080 Come on.

01:18:42.500 Bring it to the table.

01:18:43.320 Well, I've got a couple of things.

01:18:44.640 We know they're talking.

01:18:45.880 We got all the Obamacare stuff going on.

01:18:47.940 Not good enough.

01:18:48.500 What about the different plans that actually could replace it?

01:18:52.380 We always hear repeal.

01:18:53.720 You don't want to hear that.

01:18:54.380 We're going to try to touch on the plans that will replace Obamacare.

01:19:02.860 I always thought the American people would decide what that would be, but the GOP has another idea.

01:19:09.340 We'll get to that right now.

01:19:11.440 I will make a stand.

01:19:14.840 I will raise my voice.

01:19:17.120 I will hold your hand.

01:19:19.540 Because we are one.

01:19:21.380 I will beat my drum.

01:19:23.340 I have made my choice.

01:19:25.840 We will overcome.

01:19:28.220 Because we are one.

01:19:30.080 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

01:19:34.000 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:19:37.980 I feel bad because I didn't go to Jeffy for his weird story, which is actually a very good one.

01:19:44.340 George Soros losing a billion dollars after the Trump election.

01:19:49.180 Isn't that good?

01:19:50.780 It makes me feel good.

01:19:52.480 That's a good story of the week.

01:19:53.620 It really is.

01:19:55.220 Was he betting on Hillary?

01:19:57.860 I didn't read the article yet.

01:19:59.800 Oh, you just went with the headline.

01:20:01.320 Oh, congratulations.

01:20:02.540 America, Jeffy is you.

01:20:04.980 It's all you need.

01:20:05.800 At least you read the headline.

01:20:06.840 I think that's rare these days.

01:20:09.040 What?

01:20:09.420 You finished reading the whole headline?

01:20:10.900 Yeah, if you have a headline and then it has a secondary sub-headline, I'm already past it.

01:20:17.980 I'm like, oh, I have to.

01:20:19.080 You can't hang out of that.

01:20:19.780 I don't have.

01:20:20.600 It's too much information for me.

01:20:24.980 It is Friday.

01:20:27.140 My wife and I have been married for 17 years.

01:20:32.720 Wow.

01:20:32.820 Is this the day?

01:20:34.500 No.

01:20:35.040 Oh.

01:20:35.420 No, this week.

01:20:36.320 Okay.

01:20:36.960 We got married all through the week.

01:20:38.640 Thank you.

01:20:39.400 We're celebrating this weekend.

01:20:41.440 Um, it's actually in April, but, um, no, I'm kidding.

01:20:45.340 What?

01:20:46.160 Uh, we got married 17 years ago and I cannot believe how time flies.

01:20:50.720 Yeah.

01:20:50.920 I saw one of the pictures and, uh, wow.

01:20:52.460 It does, it does some damage.

01:20:53.880 I will say.

01:20:55.040 The years, the years, the years hurt.

01:20:57.840 They, uh, they punish their unrelenting.

01:21:00.040 One of the partners more than the other.

01:21:01.540 It seems.

01:21:02.300 Yeah.

01:21:02.580 It seems like, like, is she in a fountain of youth?

01:21:05.620 Is there a, uh, right.

01:21:07.060 Some sort of protection?

01:21:07.920 Was she hit by like a, did a meteor crash down in your house?

01:21:10.640 And she was safe.

01:21:11.580 Was she out like at the store?

01:21:13.480 What?

01:21:13.720 No, you're saying that I, I haven't aged well.

01:21:15.980 Is that what you're saying?

01:21:17.200 Uh, Jeffy, would you like to explain to Glenn what we're trying to get at here?

01:21:22.680 What they're saying, Glenn.

01:21:24.040 Yes.

01:21:24.820 Is that you haven't aged well.

01:21:25.900 Yeah.

01:21:26.140 I haven't aged well.

01:21:27.180 Yeah.

01:21:27.600 I did look at myself, uh, like an old video or something from Fox and it was shocking.

01:21:34.640 It was like, oh gosh, I was like, good.

01:21:37.240 What happened to you, man?

01:21:38.800 You have that reaction when you look at one of your videos from Fox.

01:21:41.440 When you look at one of them from CNN, you'll just keel over.

01:21:43.980 Oh, I know.

01:21:44.980 Thank you.

01:21:45.540 Well, you look like you were 11.

01:21:48.340 And do you remember how, how cognizant you were at first about being on TV, as were we

01:21:54.780 all, of being on TV?

01:21:56.680 And then we just kind of got beat with an ugly stick over the years and we're like, ah.

01:22:00.220 No, it's so true.

01:22:01.100 Whatever.

01:22:01.440 I remember the first, when we first started doing the CNN headline news show and Glenn

01:22:06.160 coming off set, probably the thinnest you have been as long as I've known you.

01:22:11.140 I mean, you were in as good shape as any of us have ever been in.

01:22:15.200 No, I was thin.

01:22:15.580 Not shaved.

01:22:16.080 And you gave me a very important, I think, lesson, which was that TV is the best diet

01:22:24.740 imaginable.

01:22:25.380 Because every day you look at yourself and you see how disgusting you are, or you fear

01:22:30.360 how disgusting you might look on television, so you don't eat and you actually lose weight.

01:22:35.800 That lasted, I think, for all of us, for about six months.

01:22:39.520 When each, all of us got on TV, for about six months we were all losing weight.

01:22:44.680 And now I see myself on television and I'm like, I'm so disgusted by myself, I have to

01:22:51.820 eat.

01:22:52.680 Yes, it actually is.

01:22:54.340 It's actually making it worse.

01:22:56.280 It's actually making it worse.

01:22:58.680 Sad.

01:22:59.240 But 17 years we have found ourselves, it's so fast how we are now becoming the top of

01:23:11.120 the food chain in the family.

01:23:13.660 How we are now, I've lost my parents, she has her parents.

01:23:18.420 Yeah, both of hers.

01:23:19.460 Yeah.

01:23:19.820 Yeah.

01:23:20.200 Yeah, still.

01:23:20.820 Really fortunate.

01:23:21.900 We've, I mean, that's been a real serious realization to us.

01:23:26.940 We're like, we're next in line because just about all of our, well, both our dads, both

01:23:32.320 Jackie's and my dad have died.

01:23:34.960 And now both of our moms are ailing, especially hers.

01:23:38.040 Her mom has lived with us for two years now and she's developed a stage four cancer.

01:23:44.200 So it started with a brain tumor.

01:23:46.040 She has had it for.

01:23:47.360 Good golly.

01:23:48.000 Like we went through this the first time about two years ago and she had it removed and went

01:23:53.780 through the radiation, did all of that.

01:23:56.020 And then she was in remission for a while.

01:23:58.640 And then a year later, she's like, I think I have a lump in my head.

01:24:04.100 Went back and sure enough, she had the brain tumor right back.

01:24:08.040 And so they started, they started doing treatments and, and, and then they, they did another test

01:24:14.420 on her and it was, it appeared to be in her lungs and her liver and her, what kind of pain

01:24:22.200 is she in that?

01:24:23.700 You know, it's, it's interesting because it, you know, she can't, she's gone downhill so

01:24:28.420 fast.

01:24:28.980 I mean, it's just unbelievable how fast she's declined.

01:24:32.680 They told us three months ago that she had three months to live.

01:24:34.920 So she's already sort of on borrowed time as far as the doctors were concerned.

01:24:39.040 And you've gotten word recently that she's.

01:24:41.300 That it looks like days now.

01:24:43.060 Yeah.

01:24:43.680 Does she know?

01:24:45.180 She knows it soon and she wants it to be.

01:24:47.860 And it's interesting.

01:24:49.340 It's been fascinating to watch this, you know, heart wrenching, but fascinating because at

01:24:53.820 first she was extremely afraid.

01:24:57.140 Even though she's a woman of unbelievable faith.

01:24:59.940 Always has.

01:25:00.540 You know, she knows what she knows and she, she really believes it.

01:25:05.180 And I know she does.

01:25:06.220 And she's just one of the sweetest humans alive.

01:25:10.100 But when it comes right down to it at the very end, you're, you're afraid because you

01:25:13.680 don't know the process.

01:25:14.700 You don't know exactly how it works.

01:25:17.080 You're going somewhere new.

01:25:18.940 Right.

01:25:19.400 And it's like, you've never done it before.

01:25:21.140 Right.

01:25:21.540 And you don't know what's going to happen.

01:25:23.400 But over time, you know, she's talked to us many times that her mom and dad have been

01:25:29.760 in the room, they've been talking to her, they appear to her, um, and she's been prepared

01:25:37.860 and she continues to be prepared.

01:25:40.400 So she's being prepared.

01:25:42.780 Plus she's miserable.

01:25:44.620 And so she wants to go.

01:25:46.160 Right.

01:25:46.400 She wants to.

01:25:47.740 It's funny because some people would listen to that and say, you know, she has a brain

01:25:51.640 tumor.

01:25:51.860 Of course, she's seeing things, et cetera, et cetera.

01:25:54.320 But my father, um, when he died and not a spiritual man, the, his last words, um, you

01:26:03.180 know, on his deathbed, he looked up, up to the corner of the room and he said, yes, okay.

01:26:12.040 I understand.

01:26:16.240 Wow.

01:26:16.780 Those are his last words.

01:26:18.420 Wow.

01:26:18.940 And so he.

01:26:20.060 Talking to somebody.

01:26:21.280 Didn't tell you who it was.

01:26:22.660 No.

01:26:22.960 Uh-uh.

01:26:23.280 Just, just opened up, was aware and, and was talking to somebody in the room and said,

01:26:30.440 I understand.

01:26:31.060 I absolutely believe somebody, you know, and love comes and helps you through the process.

01:26:37.300 And it's, you know, I think I, well, I know a lot of people are go through this where they

01:26:42.320 have to take care of a loved one during their last weeks, months, and in some cases, years

01:26:49.140 of life.

01:26:49.900 And it is hard.

01:26:53.240 My wife's an absolute saint.

01:26:54.920 I mean, it's so hard.

01:26:56.620 She's with her almost.

01:26:58.060 All the time.

01:26:58.520 All the time.

01:26:59.600 I rarely see my wife for the last two months because she's always with her mom.

01:27:04.060 And, uh, her mom lives right in the house.

01:27:05.900 Yeah.

01:27:06.200 She lives right in the house, but she's always in that room.

01:27:08.520 And, you know, it's, it gets to the point where her mom is only comfortable with her

01:27:14.400 now for, you know, she's uncomfortable.

01:27:17.120 She doesn't, she lost almost all her hair and she doesn't like that.

01:27:22.080 And then she really, never really liked you in the first place.

01:27:25.000 She's probably being a little, you know, it's kind of understandable.

01:27:28.160 She's probably being a little honest.

01:27:30.240 She's like, I've been faking it the whole time.

01:27:32.700 Time for pretense to go out the window.

01:27:34.440 I mean, I'm so close and I just have to tell the truth.

01:27:38.220 I don't want that held against me.

01:27:39.800 I've never liked your husband.

01:27:42.220 And, uh, I think she likes me more than Jackie does.

01:27:46.480 So once she goes, yeah, it's true.

01:27:49.900 I believe that to be true.

01:27:51.260 It's true.

01:27:51.840 So, but I, I have a new appreciation for people who take care of, of loved ones at the end.

01:27:56.880 Cause it's really hard.

01:27:59.740 You're becoming, they're becoming the baby.

01:28:03.340 It's amazing.

01:28:04.720 Jackie is literally now her mother and her mother is now the child.

01:28:08.840 And it's, it's, it's the way of, that's the circle of life.

01:28:13.140 It is.

01:28:13.420 And it's, you returned to kind of what you were when you came out, it came to the earth in the first place.

01:28:17.720 Yeah.

01:28:19.080 Was there a thought of, of, um, uh, having her go to hospice or, uh, or, uh, you know, to anywhere from assisted living to, yeah.

01:28:28.780 Not from Jackie.

01:28:29.820 No.

01:28:30.040 There was no way she'd even consider it.

01:28:32.300 And I've asked her many times, cause you know, my concern is for real medical care, my mother-in-law, but also for Jackie.

01:28:39.640 And I see how hard this has been.

01:28:41.220 And I've asked her many times, when does this get too hard?

01:28:44.240 When is this too much for you?

01:28:46.020 And she said, never be multiple times.

01:28:49.080 And so, but hospice does come if you're in this situation and you don't have hospice, you really should.

01:28:55.500 Cause they're great.

01:28:56.400 And I mean, they take care of, they help.

01:28:58.560 I mean, they're not there all the time, but they'll come in a few times a week and they help with the really, really hard, hard, hard things.

01:29:06.500 Uh, I don't want to know about those.

01:29:08.500 Yeah.

01:29:08.700 You don't want to know about those.

01:29:10.120 There's some things that you have to do.

01:29:11.540 There's not pleasant.

01:29:13.040 And I don't know how people do it.

01:29:14.700 You got to be a special person to deliver healthcare like that.

01:29:17.820 Well, what was it we were reading about?

01:29:20.500 Uh, I think it was Germany and maybe England.

01:29:23.900 I was just thinking about this the other day.

01:29:26.260 But there were, remember there was the lack of nursing, um, care in, I think Germany.

01:29:31.900 And so they were hiring just, they, they started raising the price, you know, the raising the, the wages and they were hiring just anybody to do it.

01:29:41.880 And it was not working out well.

01:29:44.540 I mean, you, you can't do that for money.

01:29:47.200 And no, you know, you're called to nursing, especially the elderly.

01:29:51.620 It seems too, that there's a generational divide on whether it's a good idea to go to one of these places like assisted living or something where you're having constant medical attention, where people would come and visit a home or whatever.

01:30:05.920 If you're 80, you have a really bad impression of what those places are like.

01:30:11.020 I don't think there might still be some like that that are really the, the hell holes that they used to be.

01:30:16.860 But I think there's a lot of really good assisted living or the full-time care places that really care about people.

01:30:23.460 I was, um, home teaching a, um, a woman who was in one of those assisted living spaces.

01:30:30.200 And she was, you know, she was in bed and it was a very, very nice place.

01:30:36.220 Very nice place.

01:30:37.700 Clean and yeah.

01:30:38.900 Clean and people.

01:30:39.980 Yeah.

01:30:40.340 And, and the people were nice and it was really nice.

01:30:44.480 Now it might be a horror show at night.

01:30:46.340 I don't know, but I mean, it's, it's appeared really nice.

01:30:49.420 It's still not your home.

01:30:52.800 It's still right.

01:30:54.260 That's true.

01:30:54.700 You know, it's still a place where the person who was in your bed, comfortable died.

01:30:58.900 You know what I mean?

01:31:00.320 I mean, it's just not the same.

01:31:02.320 Yeah.

01:31:02.480 I mean, certainly, but I mean, you know, I think, I mean, I, that does not, I don't know,

01:31:08.040 maybe I'll change as I get older, but I mean, to me, it's like, we're caping this and we're

01:31:11.860 going to play it for your children.

01:31:13.000 We're locking you up in a home.

01:31:14.740 Isn't that something that you focus on?

01:31:16.280 I mean, you know, look, you, you know, you're in a situation where, uh, you know, you're,

01:31:20.780 you have millions and millions in debt.

01:31:22.900 And I think, uh, no, I mean, but you know, you're probably in a, in a financial position that this,

01:31:28.300 you're not going to have to be a burden on your children unless you really screw it up.

01:31:32.520 Jeffy, on the other hand, already is a burden on, on, on the, I would hope, I would hope that

01:31:38.160 I would have the insurance or the money that we could hire somebody to, to care for all the

01:31:47.000 things my children, I wouldn't want my children to do.

01:31:49.700 It would be horrible.

01:31:50.440 I'd be embarrassed.

01:31:51.740 Right.

01:31:52.140 And you know what I mean?

01:31:52.740 It would be horrible.

01:31:53.680 You don't want to put yourself in that position.

01:31:55.180 I don't want to do that to my children.

01:31:57.120 And, but I, I have asked just for a bullet in my head.

01:32:00.240 If I get to that, if I get to that condition, just put me out of my misery.

01:32:06.100 I don't want anybody changing my diapers.

01:32:08.540 And I've said, okay.

01:32:09.180 No.

01:32:10.020 Yeah.

01:32:10.280 And it's, and you've, you've volunteered.

01:32:11.540 I have volunteered.

01:32:12.660 Don't you worry about that.

01:32:14.360 We're going to auction off the, uh, the, the trigger.

01:32:19.060 The trigger person?

01:32:20.240 Yeah.

01:32:20.420 The trigger person.

01:32:21.300 We're going to, we feel we can raise a lot of money.

01:32:22.580 Wow.

01:32:22.600 You think it'll be that popular?

01:32:24.040 Oh, very popular.

01:32:24.920 Okay.

01:32:25.320 Just here in the building, there's the money we'll be able to raise for charity or just

01:32:30.800 to go out and have a good celebration.

01:32:32.540 In fact, maybe some people have even volunteered to do that before I get to that condition.

01:32:36.540 I mean, I'm just saying ding dong, the witch is dead.

01:32:38.840 Maybe we can set up an Indiegogo with the audience and they can raise money.

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01:34:41.380 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:34:46.280 There is a really great service called VidAngel, and what it is is it's a censoring or a filtering service

01:34:57.840 that if you want to watch a movie, but you don't want the swearing, or you don't want the sex, or you don't want...

01:35:04.380 Nudity.

01:35:06.280 Nudity.

01:35:06.840 Take it out.

01:35:07.380 You can just click on the...

01:35:10.240 I know Jeffy.

01:35:11.380 And it all goes to Jeffy's house.

01:35:13.700 Anyway, you just click on whichever, whatever you want it to do, and to what level you want it to do,

01:35:19.940 and it will filter the movie as it's playing.

01:35:22.600 And it's an amazing service because you might be familiar with something called ClearPlay.

01:35:26.680 That's been out for a really long time.

01:35:28.340 Yeah.

01:35:28.700 But when you filter stuff on ClearPlay, it just skips that part.

01:35:33.200 So you'll go from, you know, making sense, making sense, and then it skips 15, 20 seconds,

01:35:38.560 and you're like, wait, what?

01:35:40.400 Oh, okay, it was nudity or swearing or whatever.

01:35:43.360 Right.

01:35:43.980 This just takes out the word, and you can't hear it.

01:35:46.640 Or this takes out the nudity, and then it just goes right to the next thing, and it does it so much more seamless.

01:35:53.820 So much seamless.

01:35:54.940 It's a really good service.

01:35:56.540 I have looked at this service for a long time, and I'm a big fan of it.

01:36:01.820 And in fact, I really wanted to work with BitAngel.

01:36:06.600 But knowing the studios the way we know the studios, they're just not...

01:36:12.280 You knew they'd try to shut it down.

01:36:13.360 Of course they will.

01:36:14.240 Of course they will.

01:36:15.440 Hollywood, I could add profanity to movies.

01:36:19.820 I could do a filter that made all of the clothes on the actresses blow off and add some anti-family message.

01:36:31.540 They wouldn't have any problem.

01:36:32.180 They wouldn't have any problem.

01:36:32.960 Do whatever you want.

01:36:33.760 Go ahead.

01:36:34.560 That's art.

01:36:35.380 Yeah, it's art.

01:36:36.660 But they do not like...

01:36:40.480 And I'm torn on this.

01:36:42.020 I really am torn.

01:36:43.060 Because if you want to buy it, it's now yours.

01:36:48.480 It's now yours.

01:36:49.660 But what Video Angel was doing was you were buying it, and then you were selling it back

01:36:54.220 to them.

01:36:56.520 For what?

01:36:57.440 Two dollars less?

01:36:58.640 Something like that?

01:36:59.520 Mm-hmm.

01:36:59.800 Okay.

01:37:00.120 Well, if you wanted an HD, it was two dollars.

01:37:02.100 If you wanted standard, it was a dollar.

01:37:04.000 Really good deal.

01:37:05.100 Really good deal.

01:37:05.900 Listen to what you just said.

01:37:07.580 Why?

01:37:08.800 Because you just said that that's basically a rental.

01:37:12.400 Yes.

01:37:13.240 However, I have his explanation.

01:37:18.120 It's too long to play right now.

01:37:19.420 But the explanation from VidAngel makes a lot of sense.

01:37:22.880 And the reason they do it that way is because that's the legal way to do it.

01:37:27.740 There was a standard that was set up with the family movie actor or whatever in 2005.

01:37:32.400 And that's part of what you have to do.

01:37:34.560 Right.

01:37:34.840 You have to buy it.

01:37:36.460 You can't make a permanent copy for the home.

01:37:40.860 So that's why they had to sell it back.

01:37:43.880 See what I mean?

01:37:44.880 According to the Family Act, I think, if I understand this correctly.

01:37:48.940 No.

01:37:49.360 Yes?

01:37:50.020 No.

01:37:50.540 Well, that's what they say in this clip.

01:37:52.300 Well, they're going to be argued in court that you can do whatever you want to your own video.

01:37:58.000 Okay?

01:37:58.520 Yes.

01:37:59.120 And you can edit it all you want.

01:38:01.220 But you cannot sell or rent an edited video.

01:38:07.460 If you own the video.

01:38:08.960 And it's not when you rent it.

01:38:10.380 Right.

01:38:11.300 You own the video.

01:38:14.060 They sold it to you for $18 or whatever it was.

01:38:16.820 For $20.

01:38:17.400 For $20.

01:38:17.800 And then you watch it filtered.

01:38:20.460 You watch it filtered.

01:38:21.660 And then you quote.

01:38:22.360 Sell it back.

01:38:22.760 Sell it back.

01:38:23.880 Brilliant.

01:38:24.780 For $18.

01:38:26.500 Wait until you hear the explanation.

01:38:27.960 You might change your mind.

01:38:28.920 It was a loophole.

01:38:29.820 You might change your mind.

01:38:31.220 I might.

01:38:31.820 I might.

01:38:32.560 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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01:38:40.400 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:38:42.980 From the Mercury Studios in Stage 19 in Irving, Texas.

01:38:47.120 Welcome to the program.

01:38:49.800 So Video Angel is really a brilliant service.

01:38:54.440 And it is a way for you to filter a movie so you can watch it as a family.

01:39:01.160 And it does all movies.

01:39:02.300 And it is seamless.

01:39:03.340 It is really tremendous.

01:39:06.180 You can take an R-rated movie and make it G or PG or whatever.

01:39:09.520 It's the best filtering I've ever encountered.

01:39:12.980 Ever seen.

01:39:13.480 And it's really good.

01:39:14.400 Now they got around it because at first they were doing it online and then they got nailed for rentals.

01:39:22.900 And so then they said, okay, well, you're going to buy your video.

01:39:25.540 They buy actual copies of each movie.

01:39:27.760 And personally, I think as long as, like Blockbuster, as long as they have all of the copies for what they're renting, as long as they're not taking...

01:39:38.200 They say they do.

01:39:39.040 Yeah.

01:39:39.580 And I believe that.

01:39:40.720 Yeah.

01:39:40.880 As long as they have all of the copies that they are renting, so they bought all of those copies, again, like Blockbuster, I could take a Blockbuster video and do whatever I want.

01:39:51.020 And if Blockbuster had a filtering service, I could just, okay, I'm going to rent that one and I'm going to use that.

01:40:00.260 I'm going to rent your filtering service and I'm going to watch it this way.

01:40:02.880 Things don't look good, however, because a judge shut them down while the trial is going on.

01:40:07.000 And that usually means they're going to lose.

01:40:09.480 Injunction.

01:40:10.080 Injunction.

01:40:10.440 Just shut them down.

01:40:11.300 But here's, listen to the explanation because I was kind of on the side of, okay, yeah, it's a little bit shady and they're kind of skirting the law and they're kind of circumventing the process.

01:40:19.120 I don't think it's shady.

01:40:20.200 It's just clever.

01:40:20.620 But when you listen to this, it's pretty straightforward.

01:40:24.500 Is VidAngel legal?

01:40:26.100 VidAngel is being sued by Disney, Warner Brothers, 20th Century Fox, and Lucasfilm.

01:40:30.720 You might be asking, are these studios just trying to get buzzed by piggybacking on the VidAngel brand?

01:40:35.740 We'll let historians answer that.

01:40:37.220 But first, the bigger question.

01:40:38.720 Is VidAngel legal?

01:40:39.960 We say we're legal.

01:40:41.060 Disney says we're pirates.

01:40:42.440 But Disney made pirates two through four, so who's the real criminal here?

01:40:45.700 Whatever you believe, know that if VidAngel gets shut down, it's the end of filtering.

01:40:50.000 Here's why.

01:40:50.520 In 2005, Congress passed the Family Movie Act to protect the choice to filter.

01:40:55.440 Just as a director gets to choose what goes into a movie, a family watching at home gets to decide what to mute and skip.

01:41:01.060 And filtering is like a fancy remote to make muting and skipping easier.

01:41:04.540 So everyone has their choice.

01:41:05.980 Sure, what a director puts in may offend some viewers, and what a viewer takes out may offend some directors.

01:41:11.020 But being offended doesn't mean you get to make choices for other people, or else college students would rule the world.

01:41:15.720 Well, Hollywood didn't like that law.

01:41:17.500 So the studio signed secret contracts with the Directors Guild and distributors to create a force field against filtering.

01:41:23.840 The contract said no one can filter or partner with filtering companies, basically blocking filtering from the whole streaming market.

01:41:29.720 We only know all this because Sony got hacked by North Korea and their contracts became public.

01:41:34.220 Probably because North Korea is a big...

01:41:35.860 That's incredible.

01:41:36.860 Isn't it?

01:41:37.600 That is incredible.

01:41:38.560 Isn't it?

01:41:39.060 That is incredible.

01:41:39.800 So who's doing the shady stuff?

01:41:40.980 Do you know, I was just talking to a company in my office yesterday, Hero, and they are a company that helps you put filters on all your phones and your computers.

01:42:00.500 So, you know, you say, I've got three iPads and two iPhones and a desktop, and I need filters on all of them.

01:42:10.060 You put the filters on.

01:42:11.380 Like what kind of filter?

01:42:12.300 What does it do?

01:42:12.740 Anything.

01:42:13.480 You can say...

01:42:14.260 It will not do porn or...

01:42:15.940 It will do porn.

01:42:16.460 Let's say, I want my kids, they get 10 minutes on video games, and it shuts off after 10 minutes.

01:42:22.840 Wow.

01:42:22.980 You know, you have 20 minutes, and you can put the minutes or the hours on it.

01:42:29.200 Twitter or Facebook, you only have a certain amount of time, and then it just automatically shuts off.

01:42:33.860 It has a GPS locator for, in case you're wondering what, you know, what happened to my phone?

01:42:41.680 What happened to my iPad?

01:42:42.940 Oh, I don't know, Dad.

01:42:43.880 It's missing.

01:42:44.460 It tells you if that computer has been used and what it has been, what's been watched on it.

01:42:52.420 Wow.

01:42:52.700 I mean, it's really amazing.

01:42:54.360 So I'm talking to them, and I said, why hasn't, why isn't there more of this?

01:42:59.400 And he said, the best ones have been purchased by mega companies and then squashed.

01:43:07.580 Kind of the same thing.

01:43:08.840 That's interesting.

01:43:09.560 Fan of filtering, just not the voluntary kind.

01:43:12.100 And this is where VidAngel comes in, because that force field blocked us four times.

01:43:16.820 We teamed up with Google to filter their licensed Google Play movies, but Hollywood told Google no.

01:43:21.420 Later, when we tried to license directly, the studios said no again, even though we had the money.

01:43:26.220 We tried to buy discs directly, and they said no.

01:43:28.860 We made a product that let you filter movies you already bought on YouTube.

01:43:32.360 They got it shut down.

01:43:33.600 Our competitor, ClearPlay, does essentially the same thing.

01:43:36.200 And if they ever get big enough to be a threat, the studios will probably shut them down, too.

01:43:40.280 Basically, the force field worked.

01:43:42.120 For 10 years, no one could stream filtered movies, proving that Disney is so magical, they can make congressional laws disappear.

01:43:48.900 But the Family Movie Act struck back.

01:43:50.980 Congress knew Hollywood hated filtering, because before 2005, there had been 12 filtering companies.

01:43:55.840 And Hollywood sued, let me check my math, all of them.

01:43:59.100 They sued every filtering company.

01:44:00.880 So, the law said filtering companies don't need Hollywood's permission.

01:44:04.280 They just need to meet three requirements.

01:44:06.260 The movie is an authorized copy, watched in the privacy of the home.

01:44:09.520 Okay, movie is an authorized copy, watched in the privacy of your home.

01:44:13.300 Okay, so they fulfill that requirement.

01:44:15.300 And no permanent filtered copy is created.

01:44:17.480 There you go.

01:44:18.220 So, and no permanent filtered copy.

01:44:20.180 So, you have to do it like a rental, because that's part of the law.

01:44:24.880 No permanent filtered copy can be made.

01:44:27.500 Notice that Hollywood here is like your fiancé's parents.

01:44:30.360 It'd be nice to get their approval, but if you can't, you're still doing this thing.

01:44:33.940 Also, they'll never give their approval.

01:44:36.560 In my experience.

01:44:37.440 So, what happens when Congress wants a company to exist, but Hollywood doesn't?

01:44:41.180 Well, it's going to be a weird company.

01:44:43.500 To filter streamed movies, despite the Hollywood force field,

01:44:46.400 VidAngel has to buy authorized DVDs and Blu-rays from retailers,

01:44:49.720 sell them to customers, and stream the filtered movie to customers at home

01:44:53.100 without making a permanent copy, meeting all three of Congress's requirements.

01:44:57.580 That's pretty weird.

01:44:58.680 But weird is not the same as illegal.

01:45:01.100 Just ask Shia LaBeouf.

01:45:02.360 For instance, it's weird for a startup to provide $1 movies without the studio's permission.

01:45:07.720 And pay by buying discs instead of licensing.

01:45:10.320 But it was weird when Redbox did all those things, too.

01:45:12.860 And they were legal.

01:45:13.960 Though the studios tried and failed to shut them down.

01:45:16.620 It's also weird that VidAngel decrypt discs.

01:45:18.980 But if you've ever used a DVD player, then so have you.

01:45:21.600 And you're probably legal.

01:45:22.840 So let's look closer.

01:45:23.940 First, the discs.

01:45:24.920 A law called the DMCA forbids unauthorized decryption of discs.

01:45:28.740 Here's why VidAngel's okay.

01:45:30.180 The DMCA doesn't apply here.

01:45:32.540 Congress wanted the Family Movie Act to protect filtering companies from unfair Hollywood lawsuits.

01:45:36.800 So they made clear that filtering companies who meet those three requirements would be immune to Copyright Act lawsuits.

01:45:43.220 And since the DMCA is part of the Copyright Act, it shouldn't apply here.

01:45:46.720 But even if it did, decryption is necessary to fulfill the Family Movie Act.

01:45:51.060 Without decryption, Hollywood's force field makes it impossible to filter at all.

01:45:54.800 So either VidAngel can legally decrypt discs, or Congress passed a law that didn't change the law.

01:45:59.820 Plus, VidAngel is legal under fair use.

01:46:02.480 The fair use doctrine allows companies like VidAngel to use copyrighted works,

01:46:06.980 since our use is transformative, and the filtering increases Hollywood's movie sales.

01:46:11.120 Meaning, the DMCA doesn't apply here.

01:46:13.620 We didn't break it anyway.

01:46:15.180 And even if we had, fair use makes that legal.

01:46:18.440 I mean, to me, that's a pretty compelling case.

01:46:21.040 Well, here's the problem.

01:46:22.920 And it's caused by Hollywood.

01:46:26.660 Hollywood is probably not getting a cut of that.

01:46:32.560 They'll buy the 100 copies.

01:46:34.820 Right.

01:46:35.460 They'll buy 100 copies, and then they don't get a piece of every rental.

01:46:40.900 Here's the thing, though.

01:46:41.460 They tried to cut them in on it at the beginning, and they said no.

01:46:45.080 I know.

01:46:45.560 Regardless, they're increasing their sales.

01:46:47.960 I mean, these discs are available at stores.

01:46:51.200 And what's truly amazing to me is we are at a time when a la carte is it.

01:47:02.760 Everything in our society now is about customization.

01:47:07.500 Everything.

01:47:08.060 In Hollywood, the lovers of free speech, it doesn't matter how I want to watch it.

01:47:13.780 They have no belief in that whatsoever.

01:47:16.340 They don't love free speech.

01:47:17.160 Create your content.

01:47:18.580 Create it.

01:47:19.640 That's great.

01:47:20.880 Let me soak it in any way I want.

01:47:23.800 Can you imagine if somebody said, I mean, we have talked about making future versions

01:47:32.820 of the Blaze and Blaze Radio.

01:47:36.260 And by the way, there's a new update coming of this program and some things that we're

01:47:41.020 doing on Glenn Beck dot com that we're going to be announcing soon along this vein.

01:47:45.780 But it's it's exciting for us.

01:47:50.700 We've been talking for a long time.

01:47:52.480 If you could take this show and cut it up into just not segments, but topics or moods.

01:48:01.920 I want to just hear the guys talking about funny stuff or I want to when they're laughing

01:48:06.780 or when and when, you know, the warnings or I want to hear just the talk about politics

01:48:11.880 and you could take this show and it would reshuffle everything and put it together in

01:48:20.340 the order that was most important to you or filter out all the stuff that you didn't

01:48:25.980 like the Jeffy points.

01:48:27.600 Right.

01:48:28.840 It.

01:48:30.200 Why wouldn't I want that to happen?

01:48:34.140 Why wouldn't if you're like, you know what?

01:48:36.660 I can't.

01:48:37.200 I listen to Glenn, but I can't stand when Glenn's on.

01:48:40.780 If if you could.

01:48:42.720 And if that's what was stopping you from listening to this show, literally, I just want to hear

01:48:50.660 Pat, Stu and Jeffy.

01:48:52.060 I hate Glenn.

01:48:54.120 I would be the first one to promote a filter that filtered me out if it meant you were going

01:49:02.680 to watch or see our content.

01:49:05.240 Absolutely.

01:49:05.760 So it doesn't make any sense except the hatred of people who have different standards than

01:49:14.800 you.

01:49:17.300 Well, that shut down the room.

01:49:19.600 Look, everybody's like, everybody just looked at me.

01:49:22.480 Yes.

01:49:23.040 Just shook their head.

01:49:24.320 Yes.

01:49:24.740 Yes.

01:49:25.280 I was just daydreaming about a world in which this show happened and we didn't hear you.

01:49:30.640 That's not possible.

01:49:32.680 Wow.

01:49:33.400 That is an amazing.

01:49:34.060 I mean, it does seem like that a good case.

01:49:35.240 I would assume that the multi-billion dollars in legal fees that the studios have paid over

01:49:42.860 the years will result in them having a pretty good case, too.

01:49:45.440 Well, obviously, something convinced the judge unless he's just a Hollywood hack.

01:49:48.940 Yeah.

01:49:49.320 And maybe he or she is.

01:49:51.360 But they shut the I mean, it's currently right.

01:49:53.960 It's currently shut down.

01:49:55.360 You can't you can't use the service right now.

01:49:57.700 So, well, you know, they are in the process of winning.

01:50:00.860 You know that Hollywood did not file this in a district that wasn't friendly to Hollywood.

01:50:09.000 Probably Los Angeles, California.

01:50:10.440 Yeah.

01:50:10.740 You're you're you're you're most likely doing a little bit of judge shopping.

01:50:15.500 Better believe it.

01:50:16.100 Of where you're going to file this.

01:50:17.400 And look who's brought the lawsuit.

01:50:19.420 I mean, Disney, Warner Brothers, Lucasfilm and 20th Century Fox.

01:50:27.360 Now, let me see all the big players in Hollywood.

01:50:29.620 Let me switch this around, though.

01:50:31.940 If you said, Pat, you were doing a show and what you really believed in is what you said.

01:50:39.760 And you didn't want somebody that somebody said, I don't like all the times that he talks

01:50:44.000 about, you know, faith.

01:50:45.600 I don't like that.

01:50:47.180 And you thought that's what I am.

01:50:49.200 That's the essence of who I am.

01:50:51.020 And I made the show.

01:50:52.460 I decided it's the Pat Gray show, you know, but OK, so you're saying that the F word is

01:50:58.660 the essence of who these guys are.

01:51:00.880 I think that's really what you have to argue.

01:51:04.760 I'm not taking out their vision.

01:51:06.940 You're not taking out their point of view.

01:51:09.460 You're not taking out perspective.

01:51:10.660 You're taking out the F word.

01:51:12.240 Regardless, anybody who listens to this show on demand can skip any time they hear you

01:51:15.860 talking about faith and they can just skip forward.

01:51:17.260 They could skip.

01:51:17.840 They could pick.

01:51:18.420 I know, but what I'm asking is to look at it now from their side.

01:51:21.060 If they say, yeah, that is the way I wanted it.

01:51:25.940 It's hard to see that side, though.

01:51:27.660 I mean, all it is with filtering, though, don't you?

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01:53:30.040 So, Stu, this is my favorite time to talk about this.

01:53:34.860 OK.

01:53:35.360 With a minute and forty nine seconds left in the broadcast.

01:53:38.700 Tell us of the options of Obamacare.

01:53:41.100 I can't do it.

01:53:41.960 Oh, darn it.

01:53:42.820 I've got to try and pass it.

01:53:44.180 Come on, Stu.

01:53:46.280 You know what we should talk about then is the big stars that are going to be performing

01:53:50.140 at the inauguration.

01:53:52.000 OK, what do you got time for that?

01:53:53.420 We have time for that.

01:53:54.460 Who are the stars?

01:53:55.260 Because he said these are great.

01:53:57.260 And I can't believe that the Republicans.

01:53:59.220 Great.

01:53:59.720 Oh, man.

01:54:00.320 Listen to this lineup here.

01:54:01.700 It's incredible.

01:54:03.040 Yes.

01:54:04.680 He gets a drum roll, too.

01:54:05.840 That's that good?

01:54:07.060 Paul Anka.

01:54:09.520 The Paul Anka.

01:54:10.760 That's it.

01:54:11.280 Paul Anka.

01:54:11.680 Paul Anka.

01:54:12.800 Having my baby.

01:54:14.400 Yeah.

01:54:15.400 He cannot be still alive.

01:54:16.220 I just keeled over from a heart attack.

01:54:17.600 He's going to not still be alive.

01:54:19.140 75.

01:54:19.980 Oh, he's older than that.

01:54:20.820 75.

01:54:21.400 I will say there is kind of a surprising one.

01:54:24.080 And I guess I have more of a current star.

01:54:26.560 I'm not familiar with the guy, but Stu is.

01:54:29.280 Flo Rida.

01:54:30.040 Flo Rida.

01:54:30.540 Yeah.

01:54:30.680 That's a big one.

01:54:31.320 That's a big one.

01:54:31.940 I would say.

01:54:32.400 Is a big one.

01:54:33.280 Yeah.

01:54:33.860 Hell yeah.

01:54:34.100 Why wouldn't you leave with him?

01:54:35.700 He's a rapper, right?

01:54:36.720 Yep.

01:54:37.080 And is he.

01:54:38.040 So why would you.

01:54:38.560 But you're trying to make it look bad.

01:54:39.720 I mean, the one I know is Paul Anka.

01:54:42.220 That's who I know.

01:54:43.000 I don't know.

01:54:43.440 Well, that probably says more about you.

01:54:44.900 That's possible.

01:54:46.140 Yeah.

01:54:46.440 Is there anybody else?

01:54:48.400 No.

01:54:48.700 That's just those two.

01:54:50.560 The only two that they mention are Flo Rida and Paul Anka.

01:54:54.840 Now, coming out of Obama with Stevie Wonder, Beyonce, Jay-Z, Tom Hanks, every performer

01:55:03.860 actor, actress known to mankind, and we get Paul Anka and Flo Rida.

01:55:09.400 I hear Tom Selleck may be there.

01:55:11.740 Ooh.

01:55:13.380 Actually, Tom Selleck.

01:55:14.740 I'll take Tom Selleck.

01:55:15.540 I'll take Tom Selleck.

01:55:17.380 He's a good star.

01:55:19.080 He's still cool.

01:55:19.580 I mean, Bruce Willis, you know, might be there.

01:55:21.540 Would he be there?

01:55:22.400 I don't know.

01:55:23.580 I don't know.

01:55:24.820 Mel Gibson might.

01:55:26.180 I don't know.

01:55:27.200 Who knows?

01:55:27.840 Who knows?

01:55:28.420 Well, we know that Paul Anka and Flo Rida.

01:55:32.840 Bad.

01:55:33.860 This is the Glam.

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