Biden and Joe Biden take a stroll on the beach on vacation and something happens happens to them. It's not a good day to take a vacation, it's a bad day to be on vacation, and that's exactly what happened to Biden and Joe.
00:08:03.740You've seen issues where the government themselves have ripped people off.
00:08:07.680I mean, I've got a story here in Michigan that it's crazy.
00:08:10.700The governor here, not only did she lock people down all throughout the chaos of the last couple of years, not only did she shut businesses down.
00:08:24.480Tell mom and pops they couldn't operate.
00:08:26.380While the big box stores stayed open and very profitable.
00:08:32.160But she also told people what they could and couldn't buy at those stores.
00:11:04.800Because I think part of what we're seeing play out here today, in this country, if not the world, is really the psychological operation that it doesn't matter what you do.
00:12:33.120And that's what we'll attempt to do today.
00:12:34.760Barkley in for Beck on the Glenn Beck Program back after this.
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00:15:25.560I can't tell you exactly what happened, but I know that these folks that are wealthy and they're powerful, they all tend to sort of stick together.
00:15:36.500Now, there are stories about what Trump witnessed at his club, Mar-a-Lago, and why he booted and banned Epstein from that club permanently.
00:15:49.020But in order to have real accountability, we've got to be able to examine all of it.
00:15:53.520But we've got to be able to look at the truth, even when the truth hurts.
00:15:57.560And we've got to be able to take a close look and make sure that we move forward, holding these folks accountable.
00:16:05.060But the media wasn't really interested in that, were they?
00:16:09.840They didn't follow the testimony of the witnesses.
00:16:12.620They didn't follow what was actually said in the testimony of the witnesses.
00:16:16.400We've got one Michigan connection here, actually.
00:16:18.700One of the women, the soap star, Jane Doe number, I think it might have been three, don't hold me that, but one of those women testified that she was picked up, so to speak, and groomed from a very young age at a camp for the arts here in Michigan.
00:16:42.800It's a worldwide, world-famous camp called Interlochen.
00:16:48.840Now, Epstein apparently was one of the folks that contributed to this camp.
00:16:53.940They talked about that in the testimony.
00:16:55.780She talked about how she had just lost her father, and her family was struggling.
00:17:01.020He was a famous composer, and I think conductor.
00:17:03.360And she just wanted to, I think seeing it was, she just wanted to be a part of the arts, and so they couldn't afford this camp.
00:17:14.280She was sent there basically on a scholarship that year.
00:17:17.500But Epstein took a liking to her, and that's when it all began, this idea that she would have an opportunity to come around these people, that they cared about her,
00:17:26.980that he was just a patron of the arts, and that he was there to shepherd her along the way, because he cared so much about the arts.
00:17:40.540And then we got into the really damaging stuff, the testimony I don't even really like to talk about or even read about.
00:17:47.160But it was reported, it was all reported by our next guest, who spent hours in that courtroom, an independent journalist, doing the job that's CNN.
00:18:03.000And some of the big guys wouldn't do, releasing those transcripts on his blog.
00:18:09.420And then we have a chance to read and hear what was happening behind the scenes.
00:18:13.480My question is, we've got one down here, this Maxwell, who aided Epstein in what he was involved in.
00:18:21.080But from what we heard in some of that testimony, there are many others involved.
00:18:28.000The question is, will they be held accountable?
00:24:18.060Thanks for inviting me on the program.
00:24:20.400And, yeah, it was a very interesting trial.
00:24:23.340I'd have to say that yesterday the verdict came down guilty on five of six charges.
00:24:28.480I think that the jury did its justice, and she probably deserves a lot more considering the torment that all the victims went through.
00:24:36.860We even saw victims start to show up during the jury deliberation to wait for the verdict from the jury and their decision.
00:24:45.440But this case was very interesting, and like you mentioned, we are the only one to release the transcripts of the victim's statements as well as the butler and the Kelly McGuire transcript of the FBI raid on Epstein's home on TheRundownLive.com.
00:25:27.840Well, being a witness in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, as well as having viral footage in the Kenosha unrest and taking the stand, every day when I was in Kenosha at the courthouse, there were tents all over the place, vehicles with satellites stretching to the sky.
00:25:44.800You couldn't park anywhere near the courthouse.
00:25:47.740And that's not what I saw at the federal court in New York.
00:25:52.200What I saw is on the first day, there was a very strong media presence.
00:25:56.920And then, like you mentioned, it went from, you know, 20 to 30 tripods.
00:26:02.380And then within a couple days, two or three tripods in front of the courthouse, down to the fact that one Saturday, there was no tripods.
00:26:09.860In fact, only four journalists showed up, period, for the charging conference that they had on Saturday prior to deliberation.
00:26:19.340So it was really weird to see all the media show up for the jury deliberation.
00:26:24.540And they didn't know who the lawyers are, what they looked like.
00:26:27.820They were chasing down random people, taking pictures of them because they couldn't identify who these individuals were because they weren't in the courtroom for the actual testimonies, which blows my mind.
00:26:38.400I didn't see, I'm not going to name a lot of these networks out there, but, you know, Fox, you know, I didn't see them.
00:26:44.680The people that were there were like the New York Times, Slate, of course, Vanity Fair, Yahoo News.
00:26:50.680And then there was a bunch of independent journalists as well, myself included, and a large, strong presence from public individuals and lawyers who lived in the area who had interest in the case.
00:27:04.640Now, what I make of it is I think that the apples rotten from the core are out.
00:27:10.120And what we saw is when the Atlantic wrote the article that child trafficking is basically fake news, photographs started to surface of the owner of the Atlantic hanging out with none other than Ghislaine Maxwell.
00:27:25.740How anyone would want to get their news from that outlet after what we've been seeing come out of there in the last four, five weeks, you know, would blow my mind.
00:27:34.140And the owner of CNN, his wife, is seen in pictures with Ghislaine Maxwell.
00:27:38.460I think that it's this elitist mentality that they can do whatever they want.
00:27:43.920They can get away with whatever they want.
00:27:47.380We saw yesterday Ghislaine Maxwell's sister and brother, Kevin Maxwell and Isabel Maxwell, Isabel who took my photograph, by the way.
00:27:56.280I had no reason, no idea why that was.
00:27:59.180But they came out and they said that they firmly believe in their sister's innocence and they believe that she will be vindicated and they've already filed for an appeal.
00:28:07.740That's how brainwashed and ludicrous these elitists are where they believe they can get away with everything.
00:28:14.040This is the norm, what Prince Andrew does, Bill Clinton flying around on a jet plane with Epstein, Bill Gates, another big name on his logs.
00:28:23.320You know, Donald Trump is another one, which, you know, these are, do any of these names really surprise anyone?
00:28:36.360We know that there's photographs of Elon Musk.
00:28:38.680We can, a lot of your faves and interesting people are on this list with Jeffrey Epstein.
00:28:45.160The question is, is how many of them were involved in the predatory activity on Little St. James Island that was, may have been used for some kind of initiation into elitism or blackmail?
00:28:57.000And how many of them were actually just doing business with Epstein for selling his, you know, estates and his different properties?
00:29:06.280Yeah, I think that's part of the question.
00:29:09.240You know, these folks, powerful, wealthy, whoever they are, they do.
00:29:15.960Birds of a feather flock together in a lot of ways.
00:29:18.180So some of the question is, are these people, are these people, are they engaged in something more nefarious?
00:29:24.400Or are they just embarrassed by the fact that they're related, they're having their picture taken with these?
00:29:29.620I mean, I've taken pictures with a lot of different people that, you know, I don't necessarily know.
00:29:35.040There's a picture of me, because back in the day, these guys would come around radio tours.
00:29:39.720And I stopped into a radio tour to do a promotional thing.
00:29:42.680There's a picture of me with Jared from Subway.
00:29:45.600Now, that was the only time I ever met the guy.
00:29:50.160And I try to, you know, if I can delete that picture somewhere, scrub it off the internet, I probably would.
00:29:55.200But the question is, is there more to this story?
00:29:59.280And any time there's just an appearance of impropriety, it's got to be fleshed out.
00:30:05.480And we have to know, we need to have accountability when we see stories like this being kind of pushed to the back burner.
00:30:11.580When we see stories like this not being fully covered, well, that's a problem.
00:30:16.440Because that doesn't allow us to know exactly what was going on, to have full transparency and to hold these people accountable.
00:30:21.900So, my question is, there was a lot of disturbing testimony.
00:30:28.180Kriston, what was some of the things that were talked about when it, not just Ghislaine here, not just Maxwell, not just Epstein, but some of these other folks.
00:30:39.660And are there other people that we do need to know about and need to be looked into?
00:30:43.580Yeah, the first testimony was Jane Doe.
00:30:48.400And Jane Doe, as you guys know, is Nadia from Days of Our Lives that came out and was exposed later on.
00:30:54.400They literally used her name allegedly accidentally in the trial, her real name.
00:30:59.880And it wasn't hard to find her, but she, as well as Kate and Carolyn, the three anonymous girls, and Annie Farmer, whose sister, Maria Farmer, has been retweeting a lot of my transcripts, all really painted the picture of a grooming culture.
00:31:18.900It seems as though Epstein and Maxwell would go to Interlochen, Michigan, where they have an elite summer camp for promised children who maybe are going to be the next models or TV actors or famous musicians.
00:31:49.140She lived in Palm Beach, Florida, you know, and they were currently homeless, living in a pool house of close friends of theirs.
00:32:00.400So they identified, first of all, that this girl had talent, that she wanted to be a singer, so they could program in their brain that they could be the hero, pay for her schooling, pay for her college, any kind of, you know, special singing classes or acting classes that she may want.
00:32:17.320Epstein could come through on that way in a big way.
00:32:19.820But that was the grooming interview to identify those things and see who was good and easy to be abused.
00:32:25.800Girls with broken homes, no father figure, mother is, you know, distraught.
00:32:31.820And so they invited her and her mother over to his Florida mansion and she sang for him and Epstein and her mother had discussions and it wasn't long before she started going to Epstein's alone.
00:32:48.960Well, another process of the grooming situation is desensitizing the children.
00:32:54.120So within Epstein's mansion, he had paintings of graphic sexual encounters and orgies and naked women, as well as there would be like topless women in the pool.
00:33:06.720And this would all start to desensitize the children, including Maxwell and Epstein would bring these girls to rated R movies with explicit sexual scenes, again, desensitizing the children, conditioning them.
00:33:19.860And then at some point, Maxwell would say it's time to massage Jeffrey Epstein.
00:33:23.780And the massage room seemed to be where the final grooming process came where Ghislaine Maxwell would show the girls how to massage Jeffrey Epstein all over his body.
00:33:34.420And I'll let you use your imagination what that means, leading to gratification, eventually intercourse and orgies in the massage room with the young 14-year-old girl from Palm Beach.
00:33:54.980I got to ask you, though, Christon, and this is sensitive material, but it is material that I believe we have to face, we have to confront.
00:34:03.520These are some of the things that are happening in our society.
00:34:06.820And if we don't, they will continue on and on.
00:34:34.440Well, Les Wexner's name came up quite a bit as an enabler as well.
00:34:40.140And it seemed like the prosecution gave a very diet explanation.
00:34:45.160And there was opportunity for the prosecution to name other people that were on the flight logs with, you know, Annie, excuse me, with Jane Doe, with Carolyn, with Kate.
00:34:58.020And even the judge at one point said, you know, you can reveal these identities.
00:35:34.300You know, Prince Andrews is involved in that one.
00:35:36.580And there's other people that she would have named that I think would have blown this thing much larger and made it blow wide open.
00:35:43.840The other interesting thing is that the judge decided not to grant immunity to any of the witnesses.
00:35:49.300So if you're a witness and you're going to tattle about the bad things happening on Epstein's Island and, you know, you're going to go to jail for it, why wouldn't you just plead the fifth?
00:35:59.780And why would you even take the stand?
00:36:01.900Chris, we've got to take a break here.
00:36:03.320But another thing that happened was that all these records got sealed.
00:36:06.380We'll talk about that when we come back.
00:36:08.060How can you have real accountability if you don't have access to all this information?
00:37:41.120Sparkly and for Beck, Justin Markley from Wood Radio in Grand Rapids on the Glenn Beck program today.
00:38:02.660And Christanti Harris is an independent journalist at TheRundownLive.com, covering the Maxwell trial, guilty on five out of the six counts.
00:38:10.980But something else happened that I think is even more important.
00:43:49.020But Comicron actually has some positives to it.
00:43:55.880South African scientists at the Africa Health Research Institute have examined 33 unjabbed and jabbed individuals who had contracted the Omicron variant.
00:44:05.720According to Reuters, they found that people who were infected with Comicron developed enhanced immunity to the Delta variant.
00:44:17.080In other words, this Comicron, this thing, could be a positive because it could help folks.
01:03:58.160Because we continue to see politics throughout the entirety of this.
01:04:02.220Play out in a way that I believe people are needlessly dying.
01:04:12.220They're losing their lives, and they shouldn't, and they don't have to.
01:04:17.200Part of those reasons is dealing with the treatments.
01:04:20.860We're waiting too long to try to treat people, and then with what we treat them with, there's only a certain protocol that's passed down on high, from what I understand.
01:04:33.460From the centralized location of the altar of Dr. Fauci, apparently he gives you the scroll with all the information in it, and that's what you're supposed to do.
01:04:43.960Now, if you ask questions, or maybe you think, let me try something differently.
01:04:50.600As a doctor, you could be fired, or even worse, your medical license could be stripped.
01:04:57.840They talked about that here in Michigan.
01:08:23.340So I had one go and he did what he needed to do.
01:08:26.960She was a very devout, traditional Catholic.
01:08:29.360Then they could not keep her blood oxygen levels up.
01:08:37.200She refused remdesivir, which there are other drugs that do the same.
01:08:45.300Jessica, they called Matt in to talk about the baby.
01:08:51.720And on the 4th, they vented Jessica and she fought it and fought it and pulled everything out and said, you know, to Matt that if they vent her, she's not coming out of it.
01:10:04.200We took her, had her taken off the vent.
01:10:07.220And myself, Jessica's dad, her husband, Matt, and her oldest daughter, Josie, went into the room.
01:10:17.180And it was about 15 minutes later and she took her last breath.
01:10:21.600And I think maybe it was needlessly that she passed away.
01:10:27.560I think that all these things that happened were from maybe the drugs that they gave her.
01:10:32.260They just moved out of their house into Matt's mom and dad's house to stay there temporarily to like either find a house or, you know, find some land to build on.
01:11:33.560And I know you went through that, too, Justin.
01:11:35.340And, you know, how does a man bring up, you know, a baby home, a preemie, you know, and then plus he has a 16-month-old little boy and, you know, six kids under the age of 13.
01:13:25.360Now, I know this because I've seen five different cases.
01:13:28.060And Julie, your case, your daughter, Jessica, is eerily similar to a case of a friend of my wife's who, her first child, found herself in the same position.
01:13:42.200And they had to put her on a ventilator.
01:13:52.120And to me, for me to know two of those people, something's not right.
01:14:00.840And folks, to hear this story, I guarantee if I open up the phone lines right now, we would hear story after story all across the country where these things are happening.
01:19:25.540And the story that we heard about our governor here possibly being kidnapped and, of course, even worse, killed throughout the course of the pandemic.
01:19:41.040My rogue group of individuals is starting to unravel.
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01:25:41.220We are back in and we went down for just a moment.
01:25:43.980Now, listen, I know how funny this sounds.
01:25:47.980Just as I was speaking very critically about the governor and about to tell you about an FBI plot gone wrong, this happened.
01:25:56.440I've just been told by an engineer that it looks like it was some sort of human error on that person's part.
01:26:02.800Not involved with the Glenn Beck folks, but somebody here in our building that I think must have either the hamster quit running on the wheel or something funny must have happened here.
01:27:19.020And I'll let you kind of dig through some of this and tell us what happened.
01:27:21.860But it's all starting really to crumble right now.
01:27:24.480And what happened inside that investigation is all coming at so much to the point that the defense is possibly about ready to have this case dismissed.
01:27:36.800Tell us what's going on, and how did we get here?
01:27:38.840So the defense lawyers for there were six men charged with federal kidnapping charges and then eight other men facing state charges for this attempted plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer last year in 2020.
01:27:56.460The charges were announced in October of 2020 as early voting was already underway in Michigan and other states.
01:28:02.960Gretchen Whitmer had this overwrought press conference blaming Donald Trump for inciting violence against her, people wanting to kidnap her and possibly kill her.
01:28:13.400Joe Biden made a statement, you know, just another example of the FBI interfering in a presidential election.
01:28:19.860But as the court proceedings continued and have continued, defense attorneys are filing motion after motion to really substantiate an egregious case of FBI entrapment.
01:28:34.540But for the agents and informants involved in this case, you had at least a dozen informants.
01:28:41.420You basically had one informant per defendant involved in this case.
01:28:46.800But for their intricate involvement, planning surveillance trips, planning military-style training camps that were then photographed and used as evidence, if the FBI hadn't taken a hold of this and managed every aspect of it, there never would be any alleged kidnapping plot.
01:29:06.940And so defense attorneys are putting together all the evidence related to this entrapment case.
01:29:12.520And then on Christmas Day, in the federal case, the five defense attorneys, one man has already pleaded guilty.
01:29:19.420The five remaining federal defendants asked the court to dismiss the conspiracy to kidnap charges against them, arguing again that this never would have materialized had it not been for the careful handling of this by the FBI.
01:29:34.580So let's break this down, because this is a very serious allegation.
01:29:43.480But you're saying that, from what I understand, in this case, there were just as many FBI informants or FBI folks involved in this militia and the planning of this supposed kidnapping attempt,
01:29:59.040as there were the people that are actually accused and now being charged with this, so it seems as though they planned something and tried to force something into happening,
01:30:11.020the defense is saying that it would have never happened.
01:30:13.220It would have never even been a thought process.
01:30:15.480That's right, which is wholly against the law in terms of what FBI informants are supposed to be doing.
01:30:23.320They are not, they're legally prohibited from directing any sort of crime.
01:30:29.040And how this started, Justin, was, you know, it's chatter, online chatter about lockdown policies.
01:30:37.360Of course, Michigan had one of the harshest lockdown policies, Gretchen Whitmer, and Donald Trump got into it for months over that.
01:30:45.120You remember his tweet, Liberate Michigan.
01:30:47.680And so this is how this began with these attempted, with these planned anti-lockdown rallies.
01:30:54.480And one of them, as you know, took place in Lansing in late April, which really turned out to be the dress rehearsal for January 6th.
01:31:03.580And the FBI was already infiltrated in this sort of loose gang of Facebook self-styled militia types.
01:31:11.540And they had already infiltrated, had informants on the ground with people during that protest in April.
01:31:17.940And then the FBI, with their agents out of the Detroit field office, and then, of course, their informants, carefully coaxed these suspects from lockdown rallies into, let's kidnap Gretchen Whitmer from her vacation cottage.
01:31:35.980And either abandon her on Lake Michigan or take her to Wisconsin to face some sort of tribunal.
01:31:44.160But when you look at all of the contacts between the informants and the FBI agents, and it's important to know, Justin, the top three FBI agents working out of the Detroit field office have all been removed from this case.
01:31:58.780The lead agent, Richard Trask, who signed the initial criminal complaint, was arrested for assaulting his wife, attempting to strangle her in a drunken rage after a swingers party.
01:32:09.900He's been fired by the FBI, which is a nearly impossible thing to do.
01:32:13.440The other two FBI agents who are handling the top informants also have been removed.
01:32:18.940None of them will be testifying for the government in the trial that takes place in Grand Rapids in March 2022.
01:32:26.600So this is just part of how this case is imploding.
01:32:29.840But, of course, it's a very illuminating backdrop to what's happening with the prosecution of January 6th.
01:32:43.540I mean, I'm right here in Grand Rapids, so I'm in the middle of this story as it's unfolding.
01:32:48.700And the story that came out about the FBI agent to me was shocking to hear some of the details about how he allegedly had abused his wife after this party at a hotel with other folks who were engaged in this alternative lifestyle of swinging, etc.
01:33:20.980What he's posted online and what he posted about the president as the president was still in office from an FBI agent is just mind-blowing.
01:33:30.160Well, as I wrote, he's basically Peter Strzok without the law degree and a bunch of tattoos.
01:33:36.660I mean, this is the same sort of thing we saw from the FBI, top FBI officials that weren't covered in text messages.
01:33:44.300Peter Strzok and his girlfriend Lisa Page.
01:33:46.640You know, these people are just, you know, they're cheaters and they're liars.
01:33:51.640And they talk smack about people who are going to be their boss or are their boss, including the president of the United States.
01:34:17.460He's bleeding because he had gotten in this fight with his wife where he bashed her head against the nightstand and tried to strangle.
01:34:23.640I mean, this is not anyone who should be in a position of authority, especially contesting a plot where you now entrap what looks like innocent men so they can, once again, the FBI make big announcements, interfere in a presidential election in a key swing state like Michigan,
01:34:41.080and use these low-life agents and low-life informants that the other informant has now been charged with two crimes for illegally possessing a firearm and now fraud.
01:34:52.480And he committed those crimes while he was working as an informant in this caper.
01:34:58.540And unfortunately, Justin, this is a reflection of our FBI from top to bottom.
01:35:04.860It is a criminal enterprise that is now targeting the American people.
01:35:12.560And if Republicans take over and soon we get a Republican president, this agency needs to be completely disassembled because it is not working in the best interest of the American people, truth, or justice.
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01:37:25.260The defense has moved now to have this case of the Whitmer kidnapping governor here in Michigan, the kidnapping dismissed in the federal court.
01:37:33.660And some of the details behind, because the FBI's involvement, they say entrapment here in this case, the details coming out are just shocking.
01:37:45.180On with us right now, talking about what's happening behind the scenes.
01:37:51.860Appreciate you hanging with us to talk a little bit more, because there is a connection between this detail, what happened here in this case, the FBI program it originated from, and possibly even what happened on January 6th?
01:38:08.860The Whitmer caper originated out of something called Operation Cold Snap, which was launched by the FBI in the spring of 2020.
01:38:18.800The pretext was to infiltrate alleged militia groups who were plotting anti-lockdown protests across the country.
01:38:27.700So this was how they infiltrated the Wolverine Watchmen, which was nothing more than a Facebook group.
01:38:34.800It was organized back in November of 2019, just a few months before this whole paper got underway.
01:38:41.940The FBI agents, the FBI agents, the two main agents out of the Detroit field office who were counterterrorism, declared the Wolverine Watchmen a domestic terror threat.
01:38:54.980And I'm laughing because it's so preposterous.
01:38:57.960But this then opens up the pathway for them to do whatever they want, run informants, run undercover agents, surveil, wiretap, et cetera.
01:39:09.140Now, they also obviously infiltrated other militia groups.
01:39:13.540One of the special agents involved testified this was going on in other states as well.
01:39:20.640And look, Justin, you know, the New York Times confirmed this back in September.
01:39:24.300At least two informants were infiltrated into the Proud Boys, another alleged militia group who brought no weapons to the Capitol on January 6th.
01:39:34.060These people aren't really good at militia-ing.
01:39:37.700And so they already had two FBI informants infiltrated that group.
01:39:55.300One of the top informants, Stephen Robeson, who I just referred to, who has now been charged with two other crimes related to what he did during the Whitmer-Caper.
01:40:05.940He also is the founder of the Wisconsin chapter of the three percenters.
01:40:10.420Now, if that doesn't raise all sorts of eyebrows to the fact that most of these militia groups, the Oath Keepers, Proud Boys, the three percenters, are merely FBI front groups to lure these people into their various traps, then I don't know what it is.
01:40:28.960Here's another example, and my friend Darren Beatty keeps bringing this up.
01:40:32.740The founder of the Oath Keepers, one of the other three main militia groups, Stuart Rhodes, is person one in every single indictment related to January 6th.
01:40:46.780The Oath Keepers now have about 20 defendants charged with conspiracy and other crimes related to January 6th.
01:40:52.120He is person one in every single indictment.
01:40:55.740We now are almost at the one-year anniversary.
01:40:58.020Stuart Rhodes still has not been charged with any crime, even though he alleged to be the mastermind behind the conspiracy to, quote-unquote, attack the Capitol on January 6th.
01:41:16.560While you have men who have been in prison under pretrial detention orders since February and March, charged in the Oath Keepers conspiracy case,
01:41:25.620Stuart Rhodes isn't even facing one misdemeanor charge for trespassing or disorderly conduct or anything about January 6th.
01:41:34.240So when you really start to dig into these militia groups and see how many informants were involved,
01:41:40.240how many unindicted co-conspirators like Stuart Rhodes that there are,
01:41:43.940you really have to wonder, and especially using the Whitmer caper as a backdrop,
01:41:49.560how much of this has been orchestrated, executed, prompted by the activity of what we know is a highly partisan, politically interfering FBI.
01:42:03.760I mean, this goes back to Crossfire Hurricane.
01:42:05.920Here we are five and a half years later, and the FBI is still getting involved in domestic elections and domestic politics.
01:42:12.480Now, I know you've written, Julie Kelly's on with us right now, she's a writer at amgreatness.com, American Greatness, a blog,
01:42:21.920but you've actually written a book about January 6th as well, how Democrats, it's called January 6th,
01:42:27.280how Democrats, the Capitol protest, use the Capitol protest to launch a war on terror against the political right.
01:42:32.840What about some of the things that we continue to see coming out?
01:42:37.020Particularly, there's a video of a man, January 6th, that is seen in quite a bit of video.
01:42:48.180We keep hearing that we're going to get down to the bottom of this, we get this, you know, in the House, this January 6th committee.
01:42:55.220They're not really interested in looking at, because I do believe we ought to know what exactly happened January 6th.
01:43:01.960There are some real and serious questions that I have about that day.
01:43:06.400Who is this man that is seen in a lot of the videos that is urging people to commit violent acts and to do certain things that we still don't know much about?
01:43:19.560He also is associated with the Oath Keepers group out of Arizona.
01:43:23.560He is the man who is seen in downtown Washington, D.C. on the night of January 5th, mixed in with Trump supporters, urging them to go inside the Capitol that day.
01:43:36.060His activity was so suspicious that night that a group of them started chanting feds at him.
01:43:42.140He's then seen on video the next day, first directing people who are leaving Trump's speech at the Ellipse and directing them towards Capitol Hill, where they could get, you know, where they could find the Capitol building, obviously.
01:43:54.940And then Ray Epps is the man who whispers in the ear of Ryan Samsoe, a January 6th defendant, who is technically the first person to breach this really light line of police barricades and four or five just regular Capitol police officers.
01:44:15.180Ryan Samsoe breaches that line at about 1255 on January 6th.
01:44:20.320The last person he talks to is Ray Epps.
01:44:24.800So why Ray Epps still almost a year later, even though him obviously prompting people to go to the Capitol, says something to Ryan Samsoe, who then breaches the first line that day.
01:44:39.020And, you know, he's been questioned by the media.
01:44:42.480Representative Tom Massey confronted Attorney General Merrick Garland during a hearing a few months ago, played the video of Ray Epps and demanded to know why, when so many other, we know 700 or so defendants, why so many other people have been charged related to their activity on January 6th.
01:44:59.340But here is Ray Epps, a man clearly inciting people to go to the Capitol, commit illegal acts, why he still remains uncharged.
01:45:08.440So at this point, Justin, their question is not who's been charged, but who has not been charged.
01:45:15.180And, of course, the top two people are Ray Epps and Stuart Rhodes.
01:45:19.920Why, if they were so involved in promoting planning violence that day, planning going to the Capitol, going into the Capitol building, why, if those people are all charged with crimes, why the people who incited that activity still remain free?
01:45:40.320Talking with Julie Kelly right now, who is a writer for AmericanGreatness.com, the blog, AMGreatness.com.
01:45:47.240And then also the author of January 6th, How Democrats Used the Capitol Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right.
01:45:55.520Julie, a lot of this is we talk about that plot to kidnap the governor here in Michigan that turns out to be some sort of an FBI scam, that connection here to January 6th.
01:46:08.780And then one other question I have for you, because we don't hear much about them.
01:46:16.420I know certain folks have talked about it.
01:46:18.240But the people that are currently locked up right now who were charged that are in that jail in D.C., the media has been very quiet about a lot of them.
01:46:28.880And what we have heard that's come out, some really horrible conditions from some of these folks.
01:46:34.680Regardless, whether they committed the most heinous act or not, I mean, they're being treated much worse than somebody like Ghislaine Maxwell,
01:46:44.200who apparently was guilty of some really horrible things.
01:46:49.980But these folks, their tale, their story isn't being told much.
01:46:53.200What's really going on with some of them?
01:47:41.340It has nothing to do with the fact that they're a threat to their community.
01:47:44.140It has nothing to do with the fact that they're flight risks, which are the two animating factors when judges consider denying bail to people.
01:47:52.520And we have federal judges in Washington, D.C., from Trump appointees to Obama appointees to Reagan appointees,
01:47:58.960who are going along with this Justice Department, the Biden regime's political persecution of innocent men,
01:48:05.500holding them behind bars, mostly in solitary confinement.
01:48:15.640They've been some of them have been strip searched in an almost sexually exploitive way.
01:48:21.360And these judges, I'll tell you what, this D.C. district court is a national disgrace.
01:48:26.940It is scary to listen to these court hearings, to hear what happens in Washington, D.C.
01:48:32.560You not only have an FBI actively working against the American people, you have the entire power center of this great country populated by evil people who want to punish American citizens because they dared to protect the election of Joe Biden for a few hours on January 6th.
01:48:51.800They are not representative of the goodness and decency of this country.
01:48:56.260It has been alarming, to say the least, for me to follow this for the past year.
01:49:02.700But when I say these people, judges, prosecutors, the news media, go down the list, have nothing but contempt for most of the American people.
01:49:28.060I mean, when the Republicans take the House next year, they have to turn this around on the Democrats, just like this January 6th committee is.
01:49:38.140They need to start their own special committee.
01:49:41.180They need to ask for a special prosecutor, which they won't get, of course, under a Democratic Justice Department.
01:49:46.500But they need to hold their own hearings.
01:49:48.620They need every single line prosecutor who has signed these charges.
01:49:53.800They need to bring in every FBI agent, including Christopher Wray, and they need to explain to the American people what they did on January 6th.
01:50:03.960But more importantly, how they are tormenting, destroying the lives of people who did nothing more than trespass in what they believed was a public building.
01:50:20.120They've been canceled by their neighbors, some people by their own churches.
01:50:25.820I mean, what is happening to these people, while this DOJ, this FBI, this D.C. district court, and now this D.C. jail are doing, this is really the sort of stuff you never believed would happen in America, but it's happening right in front of our eyes.
01:50:41.400Julie, I appreciate you taking the time.