On today's show, Glenn Beck talks about the government shutdown and whether or not it's going to be over. He also talks about why he doesn't think it's over and why he thinks the government will reopen in January.
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00:04:56.200Back in September when I was reporting an article Democrats should shut down the government,
00:04:59.940I kept hearing the same warning from veterans of past shutdown fights.
00:05:02.980The president controls the bully pulpit, and parts of the government will stay open, and he decides what parts close.
00:05:09.500It's very, very hard for the opposition party to win a shutdown, blah, blah, blah.
00:05:13.160Now they have brokered a deal over the weekend as the Senate Democrats broke ranks and negotiated a deal to end the shutdown in return for, if we're being honest, very little, according to the New York Times.
00:05:26.680Food assistance, both SNAP and WIC, will get a bit more funding.
00:05:30.900There will be a few other modest concessions on spending levels elsewhere in the government.
00:05:35.000The deal does nothing to extend the expiring Affordable Care Act tax credits, which Democrats substantially shut down the government for in the first place.
00:05:56.960First of all, it's not the Affordable Care Tax Credit.
00:07:13.440But once once they created this, Washington does what Washington always does, and they won't let it go.
00:07:20.000OK, it's not the tax credit to understand why the shutdown will end with such a whimper.
00:07:25.120You need to understand the strange role the ACA subsidies played in it.
00:07:28.460Democrats said the shutdown was about subsidies, but for most of them, it wasn't.
00:07:32.280Now, this is the New York Times saying this.
00:07:34.320It was about Trump's authoritarianism.
00:07:36.980It was about showing their base and themselves that they could fight back.
00:07:41.740It was about treating an abnormal political moment abnormally.
00:07:46.620The ACA subsidies emerged as the shutdown demand because they could keep the caucus sufficiently united.
00:07:53.800They put Democrats on the right side of public opinion, even though self-identified MAGA voters wanted the subsidies extended.
00:08:00.240And they held the quivering Senate coalition together.
00:08:03.280You shut the government down with the Democratic caucus that you have, not with the Democratic caucus that you want.
00:08:09.120But the shutdown was built on a crack foundation.
00:08:12.040There were Senate Democrats who didn't want to shut down at all.
00:08:14.620There were some Democrats who did want to shut down, but thought it was strange to make their demand so narrow.
00:08:20.240Was winning on health care premiums really winning the right fight?
00:08:23.920Shouldn't Democrats really vote to fund the government turning towards authoritarianism as long as health insurance subsidies are preserved?
00:08:31.400And what if winning the health care fight was actually a political gift to Trump?
00:08:37.340The New York Times, absent a fix, the average health insurance premium for 20 million Americans will more than double.
00:08:44.700The premium shock will hit red states really hard.
00:08:48.660Trump's longtime pollster had released a survey of competitive housing house districts showing that letting the tax credits expire might be lethal to Republican efforts to hold the House.
00:08:59.580Why were the Democrats fighting so hard to neutralize their best issue in 2026?
00:09:06.160The political logic of this shutdown fight was inverted.
00:09:09.640If Democrats got the tax credits extended, if they won, they'd be solving a huge electoral problem for the Republicans.
00:09:16.120If Republicans successfully allowed the tax credits to expire, if they won, they'd be handing the Democrats a cudgel which would beat them in the next elections.
00:12:02.560But the Republicans won't do anything about it.
00:12:04.660I believe, and I say this without hesitation, I think, that Trump and RFK Jr.
00:12:14.100Together may be the only combination force in American politics with the will to take a flamethrower to the bureaucracy that is choking doctors and nurses.
00:12:24.800The pharmaceutical lobby, the insurance labyrinth, the 50 states wrapped in 50 different versions of red tape, all of it has to be confronted.
00:12:35.660And here's why Trump can't afford to miss this.
00:12:37.860If he solves even a quarter of this problem, if he can find the way to lower costs, if he increases access, if he frees the market to actually work across state lines, he'll not only win in 2026, he'll be launching a momentum that will carry Vance into the presidency in 2028.
00:13:12.160They have been playing a slow motion color revolution, one where the country has to be impoverished, has to be frightened, and has to be divided to accept the new power structures.
00:13:22.460Color revolutions only work if your people are hungry, if they're afraid, and they believe the people in the head of the government are authoritarian.
00:13:32.920When that happens, you can have a color revolution.
00:13:35.980And every day, America does not break.
00:13:53.340The crisis is the addiction to government medicine.
00:13:57.800So here's the battle line that matters, I think, most right now.
00:14:01.860While the press spins, you know, panic, Trump has to gather the brightest minds, the innovators, the disruptors, the people who build things rather than manage decline.
00:14:28.380Imagine a system where your doctor spends more time listening than actually checking boxes.
00:14:32.660Imagine competition across state lines.
00:14:36.460Imagine prices that behave like normal prices because the market is finally allowed to work and government doesn't have its finger on the scale.
00:14:45.660Imagine freeing the nurses and physicians from the paperwork prisons they're in and letting them practice medicine again.
00:18:29.220You know, it's funny because we just went over this big election and, you know, with New York City and everything where everyone was like, you need to focus on affordability.
00:18:37.120And the Democrats supposedly nailed that messaging, at least in these blue areas, and were able to win these elections.
00:18:44.800When, you know, comically, like, next time Democrats bring up affordability, remind them what the ACA stands for.
00:18:58.540They tried to pitch you this years and years and years ago.
00:19:01.820And now, by their own admission, the entire system will collapse unless we give you even more money to lower their own supposedly affordable rates.
00:19:14.100This was supposed to make health care affordable.
00:19:16.720They were supposed to have solved this a long time ago.
00:19:19.140They tried it, they failed, and now it's supposedly Republicans' fault for not approving even more money, hundreds of billions of dollars more, to go back into the same program to make the Affordable Care Act actually affordable.
00:19:33.320How is that possibly Republicans' fault?
00:19:36.040I think this is why God takes us out when we're in our 80s or 90s.
00:19:41.460I mean, I remember, I remember in the, you know, when the ACA was first being debated as Obamacare and Obamacare and Obama said, this is going to make it affordable for everybody.
00:20:49.180And, you know, it is something that we talked about a million times back in the day.
00:20:54.160And the problem, of course, is it's always their answers.
00:20:58.920You know, and it's difficult to win those battles.
00:21:01.620You know, like, you think about, like, there's a new report out about minimum wage and how that fast food minimum wage thing from a few years ago,
00:21:10.260where they raised all the prices in California, $15,000, cost something like 19,000 people their jobs.
00:21:15.960Think of what the ramifications are of that over a long period of time.
00:21:22.00019,000 probably younger people who couldn't get jobs, who didn't get to build their careers, didn't get to get started,
00:21:30.900now are, you know, probably working with families where they are making less money.
00:21:35.860You know, this is going to echo throughout their entire lives.
00:21:38.420And what is the answer going to be when they can't pay for these things later in life?
00:21:43.280Once again, it's going to somehow be our fault.
00:23:06.100And the door will open to the next level.
00:23:09.140And I, it's like, I, I, I, I, I, I'm not saying, Lord, take me now, but I'm saying, you know, you can take me, you know, when you want, you can take me when you want.
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00:25:10.400I am hopeful that somebody in Washington on our side understands what we're facing here, that health care is the biggest win.
00:25:20.800It's the biggest win and totally winnable.
00:25:23.040Yeah, and I do think if, you know, if it was like the top priority of Donald Trump, like I think, you know, he could be able to move Republicans toward trying to come up with something, I guess.
00:25:32.960But I don't show much optimism on that because as I was going through that whole scenario, it wasn't just that we said these rates would go up and that the Affordable Care Act wouldn't be affordable and gave all the reasons that wound up playing out with risk pools and everything else.
00:25:50.420It was all and it wasn't also that we would say, hey, the way they're going to try to solve this is by more government subsidies and more dependence on government.
00:26:03.460But the other thing we said was that after this thing got passed, the Republicans would bail on opposing it.
00:26:12.300We would no longer have an opposition.
00:26:14.260We're now to the part of the story where the right wing position is just normal Obamacare and the left wing position is new, expanded, fancy times 10 Obamacare.
00:26:27.160It's the question of whether we triple down on Obamacare or double down on it.
00:26:34.560I talked to Dr. Oz and and he said they are introducing something here in the next couple of months should should be many time now and it will be done at the state level and it will be to stop all the barriers from state to state.
00:26:54.820And you get you get your your your funding for different programs if you get rid of those barriers for your insurance companies.
00:27:05.040And if you don't, well, you don't get your funding.
00:27:06.880And so they're going to be incentivized to do it.
00:27:09.240So I do think that there is some thinking about this that is going on with RFK and Dr. Oz.
00:27:15.540In fact, let's see if we can get them on.
00:27:17.380Maybe I'll go up to Washington and do a podcast with him because I think this is the big win here,
00:27:22.200because if you look, you have to you have to change the life of people in the in the next 15 months, 12 months, if you want to win the election.
00:27:35.880And if you if you want to win with J.D. Vance, it's going to have to you're going to have to do it in the next 18 months at the very minimum.
00:27:42.960OK, it's going to get harder and harder to do it.
00:30:45.520Well, I mean, I generally, I think, agree with most of that.
00:30:52.400I think that, you know, the health care is one you could do.
00:30:55.340Although, you know, again, that's something you sign up for on an annual basis, right?
00:30:58.780So, I mean, even if the prices did drop, it would take a while for that to come in.
00:31:04.020I mean, the easiest way to do this, and he's, by the way, done a lot of this, is, you know, deregulation.
00:31:10.180You know, I think what's happening with some of that, and we're not seeing tons and tons of results from that,
00:31:16.540is because I think he's doing things on the other side as well that are affecting prices the opposite way.
00:31:21.860So, we're not going to see massive drops.
00:31:24.900And, you know, of course, a lot of this is, too, is just, you know, there's a lot of big promises that are made when you're talking about prices coming down really fast.
00:32:48.160But, like, again, one of the focuses of Trump's economic plan is to try to draw a lot of these products to be made in the United States.
00:32:58.560As you point out, that is a long-term process.
00:33:01.940You're talking about way after Donald Trump is out of office before you're seeing the potential theoretical benefits of new factories being built in the United States.
00:33:13.600It's going to take a long time for that to work if you believe it's going to work.
00:33:17.120And when you're talking about the other side of that, which is increasing prices based on different taxes and such, you're winding up with a situation where you're taking the medicine and you're waiting for those results to kick in over multiple periods of years.
00:33:35.720So I think the way that he can do a lot of this stuff, the best thing that he can do in a quick way is cutting regulation.
00:33:43.340You can cut out a lot of this stuff to increase the speed of the improvement.
00:33:48.900Like, if you want to build a new power plant, he can cut those things from 12 years to four.
00:33:55.020But that's not going to – it's not an immediate, you know, economic win when you're talking about that.
00:34:06.540And we can survive, but it's going to take chemotherapy and a long time.
00:34:14.180And so you can't just go in – if you have, you know, cancer, you can't go in and say, well, you know, you told me yesterday you were going to start chemotherapy, and I had my first chemotherapy, and I feel worse, and I'm not getting any better.
00:34:28.080It's been six months, doc, and I'm not feeling any better.
00:34:30.760Yeah, you're not going to feel better at first because it's a serious disease.
00:34:35.720That's the issue that we're dealing with.
00:34:37.840The damage – and we said this under Biden.
00:36:20.440We are in this really ugly place that if we don't have these honest conversations and really explain to each other exactly what all of the forces are, you're going to get socialism because that will seem like the only answer.
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00:41:09.980I probably read a quarter of it just yesterday.
00:41:12.540It takes 1929 and breaks it up into every month of what was going on.
00:41:20.260It starts at the crash and it says, this is coming, and then shows all of the players and what they were doing and what they were saying all the way up.
00:49:40.200I mean, if you want an escape hatch, now would be the time to get it.
00:49:43.700And I've thought about it because honestly, if, if the power goes back to the left, to the left, not Democrats, to the left in 2028, it is not going to be pretty.
00:49:58.840They are going to do things that I am not looking forward to.
00:50:07.680I mean, we have one person running and I've got a story about it later.
00:50:10.740It's in the free email newsletter at glenbeck.com.
00:50:13.680I have a person running for the Democrats that actually believes in rounding people up that are Trump supporters and putting them in concentration camps.
00:50:50.920They show up on the front lines and they are, they're, they're shouting things at the people who are waiting to get into the event last night at UC Berkeley.
00:51:44.960Something has changed in the atmosphere.
00:51:48.540You know, for the last few weeks, I have been carrying this feeling around, um, you know, like the weather has changed and nobody has bothered to check the forecast.
00:51:57.560You know, it's not a gentle slide, uh, from fall into winter.
00:52:02.280It's, it's, it's, it's like all of a sudden, you know, you have a front ripping across the planes.
00:52:26.500And you can say it almost like a lullaby.
00:52:29.100Now for every action, there is a equal and opposite reaction, right?
00:52:34.580And that, that line is, you know, classroom trivia, but it's more than that it, because it is a description of how reality itself pushes back.
00:55:33.780This isn't what we were facing even a year ago.
00:55:36.320The pushback, that next reaction, is something older.
00:55:45.640Something that has always hated awakenings, wherever it appears.
00:55:50.040And for me, at least, I think this is the first time in my life, and maybe it's just me, but I feel like the eternal battle that usually plays, you know, plays out way above our heads.
00:56:05.900You know, in realms that we can barely imagine.
00:56:11.320It's as if we're seeing the two main actors stepping onto the stage with us.
00:56:19.760You know, it's almost like the curtain has been pulled aside and the big players have walked in.
00:56:39.460Fortunately for us, God uses human hands.
00:56:44.340Unfortunately for us, darkness does as well.
00:56:49.220So last week, when I told you I think the seasons have changed, Charlie's death was the ringing of a bell, not a funeral bell, but the opening bell in the title fight.
00:57:01.240Everything before that moment, all of the political squabbles, all the cultural noise, that was the undercard.
01:00:18.480It's, um, courage is a muscle that you have to exercise.
01:00:22.600Because if you wait and you're like, I'm going to have courage when you're not going to have courage because you haven't exercised that muscle.
01:00:32.840It's the neighbor who shares their time.
01:00:34.480It's you, the parent who stays up worrying, the coworker who lends a hand.
01:00:40.020These are the acts that are grounded in care and in love, and they're rooted in fairness, just doing, just doing what's just, what's right when nobody else is watching.
01:00:50.560And they grow through loyalty to your family, your friends, your community, something larger than yourself.
01:00:58.900I'm going to tell you a story next about a family that is broken up, and it's just, it's just tragic.
01:01:09.420And it's a family of somebody that you know, you may not like, you may like, I don't know, but it's a family of somebody you know, and it's just broken up over just stupid stuff.
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01:08:29.600You know, when I was a kid, I don't know if you were like this, but my aunts and uncles, my dad and my grandpa and everybody, they would go at each other like, you know, alley cats, pack of alley cats, just ripping each other apart.
01:08:48.700But when it came to politics, it was a time of Nixon, and passions were really high at the time of Nixon.
01:08:55.800And then, you know, the fights would have edges, but not fangs.
01:09:00.400I never, ever thought my family was falling apart because of some political argument.
01:11:28.840And so, of course, the president's going to punch back.
01:11:30.840I mean, you know, the scale tilts both ways when you're doing that one.
01:11:34.560And, and, and, and, you know, it's weird is, um, she, she went on to say that this was like, well, but he's a very important figure in the world.
01:11:45.000He's the president of the United States.
01:11:46.340But I don't know if you know this, your husband's not a nobody, you know, he's not taking, you know, you're not punching tickets on the back of a subway.
01:11:53.560When did, when did, when did it, when did host of a national late night show on a network stop being a powerful platform?
01:14:45.680That's the seed of authoritarian thinking.
01:14:48.280You know, it's the little voice that whispers that the world would be better if people like you just made all the decisions for everybody else.
01:14:55.540And that grow that voice grows and grows and grows.
01:14:59.000If you feed it, you know, let's just ask you this.
01:15:19.940Do you force them eventually to see it your way?
01:15:22.480Because if you've tried to convince them and they can't be convinced, your choice really is love them or force them into silence, force them, shame them, shun them, strip their voting rights away from.
01:15:38.420I mean, all of these choices, it gets worse and worse from there.
01:15:42.800You try to convince them and if they don't see it your way, you shrug your shoulders and say, pass the potatoes.
01:21:37.560Because obviously, if you don't take yourself seriously at all, you know, especially when you're in a role where you're talking about the news and analysis and stuff.
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