The Glenn Beck Program - Glenn Returns to Apple Podcasts with a VENGEANCE ｜ Guest： Sohrab Ahmari ｜ 8⧸17⧸23

00:00:00.000 I'm a big fan of the concept that we should be buying American products.

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00:01:27.760 We got no room to compromise

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00:01:40.760 Stand up, stand, hold the light

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00:01:50.760 What you're about to hear

00:01:55.760 Is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment

00:02:01.760 This is the Glenn Beck Program

00:02:07.760 Hello comrades

00:02:11.760 Yes, our evil plan with Apple

00:02:17.760 Working marvelously

00:02:21.760 Why does it sound like I'm not really Russian there

00:02:25.760 Our plan is working wonderfully

00:02:27.760 Here's what's happening

00:02:29.760 Yesterday we pulled down Glenn Beck Podcast

00:02:31.760 3,300 podcasts

00:02:35.760 Everybody freaks out

00:02:39.760 So what we do

00:02:41.760 We say we're restoring podcasts

00:02:43.760 Yes, Apple

00:02:45.760 Apple doing the right thing

00:02:47.760 Restoring podcasts

00:02:49.760 But we'll only put 1,915 podcasts back

00:02:54.760 Not full 3,300 podcasts

00:02:58.760 Victory

00:02:59.760 Nobody will ever know

00:03:01.760 We just take down podcasts we don't like

00:03:05.760 And then restore about half of them

00:03:09.760 Oh, they will never see it coming

00:03:11.760 Dumb Glenn Beck people

00:03:13.760 Don't know how to count

00:03:15.760 Hmm, really?

00:03:17.760 Well, we should listen in

00:03:19.760 His show is about to begin

00:03:21.760 I wonder what he has to say

00:03:23.760 By the way

00:03:25.760 Vladimir

00:03:27.760 Is definitely vampire

00:03:29.760 And takes baths

00:03:31.760 In blood of children

00:03:33.760 But shh

00:03:34.760 Keep it to ourself

00:03:35.760 He's about to begin

00:03:37.760 Listen

00:03:39.760 Anyway, as I was saying

00:03:40.760 Greg lives in Alabama

00:03:41.760 And when he turns 53

00:03:43.760 He seemed that age came up behind him

00:03:46.760 And hit him over the head with a brick

00:03:48.760 Aches and pains

00:03:49.760 Aches and pains

00:03:50.760 The old story

00:03:51.760 Except he wasn't that old

00:03:52.760 He's 53

00:03:53.760 He found himself having a hard time

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00:03:57.760 Let alone going up

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00:03:59.760 He was getting desperate

00:04:01.760 Then one day

00:04:02.760 He heard me talking about relief factor

00:04:04.760 He decided he didn't have anything to lose

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00:04:17.760 He got his life back

00:04:19.760 Greg did

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00:04:55.760 Alright

00:04:56.760 So we talk about Apple

00:04:58.760 Apple

00:04:59.760 Here is what's happening with Apple

00:05:01.760 Apple

00:05:03.760 Apple restored

00:05:04.760 The episodes to their platform

00:05:07.760 Yesterday

00:05:08.760 In case you haven't heard

00:05:10.760 Apple

00:05:11.760 Totally

00:05:12.760 De-platformed me

00:05:13.760 Yesterday

00:05:14.760 At about noon

00:05:16.760 They removed every last episode

00:05:18.760 From Apple Podcasts

00:05:20.760 It was removed with no explanation

00:05:23.760 Why

00:05:24.760 For several hours

00:05:25.760 As soon as I heard the news

00:05:27.760 I posted a video to Twitter

00:05:29.760 Or X

00:05:30.760 Or whatever

00:05:31.760 I'm never going to get used to that

00:05:33.760 Is anybody really going to start calling it X?

00:05:35.760 I don't think so

00:05:36.760 They're really doing the Prince thing with it

00:05:37.760 They really are

00:05:38.760 Where it's like the artist

00:05:39.760 Formerly known as Prince

00:05:40.760 Every article is like

00:05:41.760 X

00:05:42.760 The artist for the social media site

00:05:44.760 Formerly known as Twitter

00:05:45.760 It's like

00:05:46.760 Oh great

00:05:47.760 So you've taken

00:05:48.760 You know

00:05:49.760 A six or seven letter

00:05:50.760 Whatever it is

00:05:51.760 T-T-E-R 1.00

00:05:52.760 Seven letter

00:05:53.760 Whatever it is

00:05:54.760 And you've shortened it to one

00:05:55.760 And then added three sentences on

00:05:57.760 To explain what it means

00:05:58.760 Thanks a lot, Elon

00:05:59.760 I appreciate it

00:06:00.760 Anyway, I got into X yesterday

00:06:02.760 And I asked you to join me

00:06:03.760 In demanding answers from Apple

00:06:06.760 Well, thankfully

00:06:07.760 A lot of people came out in force

00:06:10.760 Yeah

00:06:11.760 We were trending on X all day

00:06:13.760 With people on both the left and the right

00:06:16.760 Calling Apple out

00:06:17.760 I was so happy to see

00:06:19.760 So many people on the left

00:06:21.760 Who would post

00:06:22.760 Who would post

00:06:23.760 I totally disagree with him

00:06:24.760 But

00:06:25.760 This is wrong

00:06:28.760 Yes

00:06:29.760 Thank you

00:06:30.760 Thank you for that

00:06:32.760 So thank you if you did any of it

00:06:34.760 Because

00:06:35.760 After six hours of

00:06:36.760 You raising all kinds of ruckus online

00:06:39.760 Apple restored my show to their platform

00:06:42.760 Well

00:06:44.760 1,915 episodes

00:06:47.760 Of 3,000 plus catalog

00:06:49.760 Hmm

00:06:50.760 So

00:06:51.760 They removed at least a decade worth of content yesterday

00:06:56.760 Without explanation

00:06:59.760 At least until we started making noise about it

00:07:03.760 Today

00:07:04.760 I read an article in Variety that said

00:07:06.760 The podcast was removed because of a trademark dispute

00:07:10.760 And quote

00:07:11.760 It has since been resolved

00:07:13.760 Resolved

00:07:14.760 Really?

00:07:15.760 Really?

00:07:16.760 A trademark

00:07:17.760 Wow

00:07:18.760 Over 3,000 episodes

00:07:19.760 All over a trademark

00:07:22.760 Issue

00:07:23.760 That is

00:07:24.760 Weird

00:07:25.760 Hmm

00:07:26.760 Not gonna get into the weeds over this

00:07:27.760 But there was a trademark

00:07:29.760 Dispute on

00:07:30.760 One episode

00:07:32.760 They let us know

00:07:33.760 On I think

00:07:35.760 June 29th

00:07:37.760 It was resolved

00:07:38.760 Within hours

00:07:39.760 We're like

00:07:40.760 Not really

00:07:42.760 Now

00:07:43.760 If that is the reason

00:07:45.760 That's

00:07:46.760 One episode

00:07:48.760 We resolved it with them

00:07:50.760 Within hours

00:07:52.760 Why would you

00:07:54.760 Why would you remove

00:07:56.760 Over 3,000 episodes

00:07:58.760 For a dispute with one?

00:08:00.760 It's a great question

00:08:02.760 Unless you were the one filing the dispute

00:08:03.760 Dispute saying

00:08:04.760 Someone's using my name

00:08:05.760 There's no real reason to pull the episodes

00:08:07.760 Yeah, no, yeah, don't pull those

00:08:08.760 Yeah, no, of course not

00:08:10.760 Doesn't explain why

00:08:11.760 They would remove the entire catalog

00:08:14.760 At least to me it doesn't

00:08:17.760 Apple still has not responded to that

00:08:21.760 Yesterday

00:08:23.760 Is a prime example where I learned firsthand

00:08:27.760 Why the blaze is so important

00:08:29.760 I learned the power of these middlemen 1.00

00:08:34.760 If you're a conservative

00:08:36.760 The threat of deplatforming

00:08:38.760 Is always there

00:08:40.760 Even in the background

00:08:42.760 Like the sword of Damocles

00:08:45.760 Is that how you say his name?

00:08:46.760 Damocles?

00:08:47.760 Remember the guy who was holding the sword over the head?

00:08:50.760 This is why we built the blade

00:08:53.760 I'm not gonna have a sword over my head

00:08:57.760 Not gonna do it

00:08:59.760 The show is always available on blaze TV

00:09:03.760 I've told you in the past

00:09:05.760 We need a direct relationship with you

00:09:08.760 I ask you please subscribe

00:09:10.760 If you haven't already

00:09:12.760 We have built a pirate ship

00:09:14.760 Get on the ship

00:09:17.760 Companies like Apple

00:09:20.760 And Google

00:09:21.760 And Meta

00:09:23.760 Can shut down your speech

00:09:25.760 Our speech

00:09:26.760 With a keystroke

00:09:28.760 The elites have always wanted to control

00:09:30.760 What you see and what you hear

00:09:32.760 Now big tech is giving them the means to do it

00:09:35.760 They have done this

00:09:37.760 To several of us

00:09:39.760 Since the Republicans have had Congress

00:09:42.760 They've been a little more shy

00:09:45.760 But I will tell you

00:09:48.760 Yesterday would have been a loss of about 3 million views

00:09:52.760 If you're not getting the podcast

00:09:57.760 From Apple

00:09:58.760 If that's where you normally go

00:10:00.760 There's about 3 million people that do that

00:10:02.760 Every day

00:10:04.760 That's a problem

00:10:06.760 That's a real problem

00:10:08.760 If we lose touch with 3 million people

00:10:10.760 Please

00:10:13.760 Join our ranks

00:10:15.760 We become stronger

00:10:17.760 And we have more ability to resist big tech censorship

00:10:22.760 And deliver the truth to the American people

00:10:24.760 We want to be everywhere

00:10:26.760 Everywhere anyone can possibly listen

00:10:30.760 Because our target audience is everyone

00:10:33.760 But our subscribers allow us to be truly independent

00:10:37.760 So if you're already a Blaze TV subscriber

00:10:40.760 Thank you

00:10:42.760 You are what

00:10:44.760 Honestly

00:10:45.760 When that happened yesterday

00:10:46.760 There was no warning

00:10:47.760 There have been no strikes

00:10:48.760 There was nothing

00:10:49.760 Just gone

00:10:51.760 And everybody started pouring into my office

00:10:52.760 Going Glenn

00:10:53.760 You're off Apple

00:10:54.760 What happened?

00:10:55.760 I'm like I don't know what happened

00:10:56.760 What are you talking about off Apple?

00:10:58.760 Completely deleted the entire library

00:11:00.760 Kind of your life flashes in front of your eyes

00:11:04.760 And you're like holy cow 0.69

00:11:06.760 Are we going to be able to get messages to our audience?

00:11:10.760 Thank God Elon is at Twitter or X

00:11:14.760 I like what he's doing with the censorship stuff

00:11:16.760 Just not as much the naming stuff

00:11:18.760 Yeah I know

00:11:19.760 But I mean it is important

00:11:21.760 This one is pseudo resolved

00:11:23.760 I mean again I put pseudo in there

00:11:25.760 Because only about half the episodes seem to be there

00:11:27.760 But okay

00:11:29.760 Who knows what that is

00:11:30.760 My point though is that

00:11:31.760 There's going to be a time where these things come off

00:11:33.760 And they don't come back

00:11:34.760 They don't come back

00:11:35.760 And if we don't have contact with you

00:11:38.760 You won't know

00:11:41.760 You won't know

00:11:43.760 You won't know what happened to us

00:11:44.760 If we don't have a direct line to you

00:11:47.760 So please

00:11:49.760 This is the biggest discount we've offered ever

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00:11:58.760 We need you with us now more than ever

00:12:01.760 I will tell you that I think

00:12:03.760 Something is

00:12:05.760 There's just a lot of things in my life

00:12:07.760 It's always a trend

00:12:09.760 You know when you're getting close to doing something

00:12:11.760 Really really big

00:12:13.760 And I don't know what that is

00:12:15.760 But when you're getting close to doing something big

00:12:17.760 There's all kinds of problems that keep cropping up

00:12:19.760 And we're in that kind of a period right now

00:12:23.760 And I just said to

00:12:25.760 A friend of mine who is coming in to work with me today

00:12:29.760 I said

00:12:31.760 I have a feeling

00:12:32.760 We're on the verge of something

00:12:34.760 I don't know what it is

00:12:35.760 But my gosh

00:12:37.760 Look at this string of

00:12:39.760 Coincidence

00:12:41.760 Now yesterday

00:12:43.760 I don't know if this had anything to do with it

00:12:45.760 But yesterday's podcast

00:12:46.760 Was who's the real crime family

00:12:49.760 Trump or Biden

00:12:51.760 We are over the target on this

00:12:54.760 And we're not going to let it go

00:13:00.760 So please join us

00:13:02.760 By the way

00:13:04.760 When they restore the show in its entirety

00:13:07.760 Then you can let up on

00:13:09.760 On Apple

00:13:11.760 On X

00:13:13.760 That's when you can go in and say

00:13:14.760 All right

00:13:16.760 Apple did the right thing

00:13:17.760 But so far

00:13:19.760 1915

00:13:21.760 Podcasts have been restored

00:13:23.760 And we are over

00:13:25.760 3,000

00:13:26.760 It's about 33 and change

00:13:28.760 So what's happening?

00:13:31.760 Now

00:13:33.760 This is something

00:13:35.760 That I talked about

00:13:37.760 In Dark Future

00:13:39.760 And I want to read

00:13:41.760 What I wrote

00:13:42.760 Just recently

00:13:44.760 Because it applies

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00:15:18.760 Important question coming in from our listeners Glenn here is

00:15:32.760 Why is Glenn talking about his podcast in the voice of Count Chocula?

00:15:36.760 And I thought that was an interesting question

00:15:38.760 There will be no questions here

00:15:40.760 From Dark Future Chapter 5

00:15:43.760 In the future you will own nothing

00:15:46.760 This is from my new book

00:15:48.760 Chapter 5

00:15:50.760 To most the idea of not knowing anything

00:15:53.760 Probably seems like a far off concept

00:15:55.760 Especially when you think about it through the lens of

00:15:58.760 Capitalistic consumer centric culture that we now live in

00:16:02.760 How could we possibly shift toward a society

00:16:05.760 Like the one that's described in the

00:16:07.760 You'll own nothing article

00:16:10.760 The answer is gradually

00:16:12.760 Then all at once

00:16:14.760 I say this with confidence

00:16:16.760 Because we already see this trend playing out in a number of industries

00:16:20.760 For example, one aspect of our economy where the idea of owning nothing

00:16:25.760 Has developed the fastest

00:16:27.760 Is in the entertainment industry

00:16:29.760 Technological innovation has dramatically altered the way we access movies, television, short films, podcasts,

00:16:36.760 And other forms of entertainment

00:16:39.760 I then highlight the dangers in the book of not owning physical media

00:16:44.760 By talking about the rise of popularity in streaming services like Netflix and Spotify and Apple Podcasts

00:16:51.760 And I write

00:16:53.760 The data printed onto a disc or recorded on a cassette are there permanently

00:16:58.760 If the physical media remains undamaged

00:17:01.760 I'll have access to that data forever

00:17:03.760 This is not the case when dealing with streaming services

00:17:07.760 The data for the movie as it exists on a streaming service servers

00:17:12.760 Like those owned by Netflix are fluid

00:17:15.760 At any time, Netflix could take down Top Gun

00:17:19.760 Its copyright owners could alter the movie

00:17:21.760 And then Netflix could upload it, re-upload it

00:17:24.760 Without any warning to the consumer at home

00:17:27.760 They can do this because you don't own the content

00:17:30.760 They do

00:17:32.760 You are just renting access to the film

00:17:35.760 Later in the same chapter I wrote

00:17:37.760 The music and podcast streaming service Spotify

00:17:41.760 Also has moderated content due to the social pressure

00:17:44.760 Podcasting giant Joe Rogan had more than a hundred episodes removed by Spotify

00:17:49.760 Because of an alleged instance of misinformation

00:17:52.760 Which included dangerous things

00:17:55.760 Like interviewing Dr. Robert Malone

00:17:56.760 A scientist who helped develop the mRNA vaccines

00:18:01.760 Don't expect the sensors to stop there

00:18:05.760 Later I wrote in the book

00:18:07.760 The point of all of this is to say

00:18:09.760 When you don't own physical media

00:18:12.760 That media is susceptible to change

00:18:15.760 The corporations that do own the media

00:18:18.760 The media can do whatever they want with it

00:18:21.760 If a show contains a joke that is considered too cruel

00:18:24.760 Or tasteless by current societal norms

00:18:27.760 Delete it

00:18:29.760 If a movie's depiction of a person, gender, orientation, or race

00:18:31.760 Is no longer socially acceptable

00:18:33.760 Change it

00:18:35.760 If you hold a movie, show, or even a piece of music

00:18:39.760 Near and dear to your heart

00:18:41.760 You might want to consider owning a physical copy

00:18:44.760 Because nothing is stopping the corporation that owns it

00:18:48.760 From altering or destroying it completely

00:18:51.760 If the political winds blow hard enough

00:18:54.760 Now, you might be thinking

00:18:56.760 As the reader of this book

00:18:58.760 Glenn, why are you spending so much time

00:19:00.760 Talking about movies and streaming services?

00:19:02.760 I picked up this book to read about the future

00:19:05.760 And the World Economic Forum

00:19:07.760 What does this have to do with property rights

00:19:09.760 And private ownership?

00:19:10.760 Think about what control these corporations have

00:19:14.760 Over your media

00:19:16.760 When you don't own it

00:19:18.760 Then imagine what they could do

00:19:20.760 In a world where you don't own anything

00:19:22.760 And the corporation and governments own everything

00:19:26.760 What happened yesterday

00:19:29.760 With the Apple Podcast

00:19:31.760 On my program

00:19:33.760 Is exactly why ownership matters

00:19:35.760 It is exactly why elites

00:19:37.760 In the Biden administration

00:19:40.760 Davos, Wall Street firms like BlackRock

00:19:42.760 Want to consolidate

00:19:44.760 Property

00:19:46.760 That's why

00:19:48.760 They need ownership

00:19:51.760 It's why the government is so eager

00:19:53.760 To work hand in hand with giant corporations

00:19:56.760 If you don't own the platform

00:19:58.760 The media, the news, or opinion product

00:20:01.760 Then you don't control it

00:20:03.760 It can be altered without any warning

00:20:05.760 Like it was yesterday

00:20:07.760 Deleted from history

00:20:09.760 Thousands of episodes

00:20:11.760 Over a decade of my work

00:20:14.760 For no real reason

00:20:17.760 They can cancel it

00:20:19.760 This is the future that is being imposed on the world

00:20:24.760 And if you don't understand it

00:20:27.760 The day will soon come

00:20:29.760 When the only voices you hear

00:20:31.760 Are approved by the ruling class 0.96

00:20:32.760 And corporate elites

00:20:36.760 Please join us

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00:20:42.760 By the way

00:20:44.760 I just have to say thank you

00:20:46.760 To a couple of people

00:20:48.760 It was really remarkable

00:20:50.760 All of the people that are

00:20:52.760 That came out yesterday

00:20:54.760 To help

00:20:55.760 Looks like I may have to go elsewhere

00:20:57.760 To listen to podcasts

00:20:58.760 Apple is going to remove

00:20:59.760 Glenn Beck's program from the podcast

00:21:01.760 A whole lot of us are going to say

00:21:02.760 We found issue with Apple

00:21:04.760 From Mike Lee

00:21:05.760 He followed it up with

00:21:06.760 Glenn Beck having such a large audience

00:21:08.760 You'd think Apple would be reluctant

00:21:09.760 To take this step

00:21:11.760 Sometimes such behavior can be observed

00:21:13.760 With companies that face so little competition

00:21:15.760 In a particular field

00:21:17.760 That they don't fear alienating

00:21:19.760 Millions of customers

00:21:20.760 J.D. Vance also said

00:21:21.760 Need some answers from Apple

00:21:24.760 This looks like an awful lot

00:21:26.760 Like a major American corporation

00:21:28.760 Engaging in election interference

00:21:30.760 Donald Trump Jr. said

00:21:32.760 Big tech censorship is the biggest threat

00:21:34.760 To free speech and free expression in America

00:21:37.760 Apple's now engaging in open election interference

00:21:40.760 By censoring Glenn Beck

00:21:42.760 For telling the truth about Joe Biden's corruption

00:21:45.760 Jeremy Boring from the Daily Wire wrote

00:21:47.760 This must be a mistake

00:21:48.760 Glenn is one of the best men in the business

00:21:51.760 And perhaps the greatest living broadcaster

00:21:53.760 Well he said living

00:21:55.760 He said that

00:21:56.760 I was like good God

00:21:58.760 That's really sad

00:22:00.760 I saw that comment

00:22:02.760 I was like oh that's crazy

00:22:03.760 Wait a minute

00:22:05.760 Wait a minute

00:22:07.760 Ed Krasenstein

00:22:08.760 Who noted he disagrees with me much of the time

00:22:10.760 Said conservative commentator Glenn Beck

00:22:12.760 Glenn Beck has reportedly been banned from Apple iTunes

00:22:15.760 Without any explanation

00:22:17.760 First I must say

00:22:18.760 I completely disagree

00:22:20.760 With so much of what Glenn Beck has to say

00:22:22.760 And I think a lot of his politics are absurd

00:22:25.760 With that said

00:22:26.760 If Beck actually has been banned

00:22:28.760 Merely for voicing his free speech

00:22:30.760 I think it's wrong of Apple to do

00:22:32.760 It'll be interesting to see what reason

00:22:34.760 Apple gives for this banning

00:22:35.760 Or if it was done by mistake

00:22:37.760 I'm unaware of any recent major controversy

00:22:39.760 Or hateful over the top message

00:22:41.760 That Beck has spread over the airwaves

00:22:43.760 Yeah we haven't had one of those in like two weeks

00:22:44.760 I know

00:22:46.760 So what's the problem

00:22:47.760 But thank you for that

00:22:48.760 We have to return to the country

00:22:50.760 That my father always

00:22:52.760 The Glenn Beck program

00:22:54.760 Always held up to me and said

00:22:56.760 You know I so disagree with what you're saying

00:22:59.760 But I will fight to the death for your right to say it

00:23:02.760 All right I want to tell you about Jason

00:23:04.760 He's a part time minister at his local church

00:23:06.760 He serves on the city council

00:23:07.760 In fact he's the youngest person in his town

00:23:10.760 To ever be elected to city council

00:23:12.760 He starts

00:23:14.760 He serves on the board for a startup organization

00:23:17.760 Takes Christ centered approach to help men

00:23:20.760 Who are you know need to have you know

00:23:23.760 Long term drug and alcohol rehabilitation

00:23:26.760 He sounds like a stand up guy

00:23:28.760 And that's because he really is

00:23:30.760 He also happens to be a well-loved and talented real estate agent

00:23:33.760 And I'm incredibly proud to be connected with him through my business

00:23:38.760 Real estate agents I trust

00:23:40.760 Our job is to make sure that you get paired up with people exactly like Jason

00:23:45.760 Who are good decent people

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00:24:15.760 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program and welcome to Mr.

00:24:28.760 Or should I say Sir Pat Gray. Hello.

00:24:31.760 Yes. How are you?

00:24:33.760 Perfect. Why would you say Sir?

00:24:35.760 Well he was knighted.

00:24:37.760 You haven't heard?

00:24:39.760 Knights of Columbus.

00:24:41.760 It's actually the Moose Lodge.

00:24:42.760 The Moose Lodge.

00:24:43.760 Is it? Yeah.

00:24:44.760 Oh yeah. That's right.

00:24:45.760 You're very anti Knights of Columbus aren't you?

00:24:47.760 Yes.

00:24:48.760 And the Elks Club don't even get you started on them.

00:24:50.760 Don't get me started.

00:24:52.760 He's a moose.

00:24:54.760 What about the Shriners?

00:24:55.760 Don't like them.

00:24:56.760 Stupid hats.

00:24:58.760 I can't take it.

00:24:59.760 You know whatever happened to the Shriners and their stupid hats in the little cars? 1.00

00:25:02.760 I don't know.

00:25:03.760 You never see them in parades anymore.

00:25:05.760 Growing up.

00:25:07.760 Do you go to a lot of parades to notice?

00:25:09.760 I do actually.

00:25:10.760 I spend my summers in small towns and so I do go to parades.

00:25:13.760 Mm.

00:25:14.760 And no Shriners in the parades. 0.96

00:25:15.760 No Shriners. 1.00

00:25:16.760 No.

00:25:17.760 Seriously.

00:25:18.760 No Shriners. 1.00

00:25:19.760 And I'm a little upset about it.

00:25:20.760 This is going to be coming up on the Wednesday special for Glenn Beck.

00:25:21.760 Yeah.

00:25:22.760 Where are all the Shriners? 1.00

00:25:24.760 Immediately pulled down my Apple podcast.

00:25:26.760 What have they done with all the Shriners? 1.00

00:25:29.760 Apple's got them in a basement.

00:25:31.760 Mm hmm.

00:25:33.760 So that's completely worked out though now right?

00:25:35.760 The Apple situation.

00:25:36.760 No.

00:25:37.760 Completely fixed.

00:25:38.760 Yeah.

00:25:39.760 Yeah.

00:25:40.760 Well, except for half the catalog.

00:25:41.760 Ah.

00:25:42.760 Yeah.

00:25:43.760 What's half the catalog?

00:25:44.760 I know.

00:25:45.760 I mean, it was, you know, it was a hundred shows for Joe Rogan and the world was on fire.

00:25:51.760 This is, you know, just about fifteen hundred shows.

00:25:54.760 That's all that is.

00:25:55.760 By the way, if you're looking to get the podcast, it is still available on other podcast platforms.

00:26:01.760 That's important to note.

00:26:02.760 Yes.

00:26:03.760 A lot of people only use Apple Podcasts.

00:26:04.760 There are other places you can go.

00:26:06.760 I know Google Podcasts, for example.

00:26:07.760 Oh, I trust Google.

00:26:08.760 Yeah.

00:26:09.760 But there's other companies.

00:26:10.760 I use an app called Overcast, which I just like better than these other podcast apps.

00:26:14.760 But Stitcher is another one that's up.

00:26:16.760 I mean, again, it's not to say they're not going to pull it down from these other apps

00:26:19.760 as well.

00:26:20.760 Mm hmm.

00:26:21.760 But at least if you're looking for a particular show, you can't find an Apple Podcast.

00:26:24.760 You can.

00:26:25.760 What is Adam Curry's podcast location?

00:26:28.760 Because he wrote to me last night and he's like, dude, it's going to happen.

00:26:32.760 All of us.

00:26:33.760 One by one.

00:26:34.760 He's been talking about this for a while.

00:26:35.760 Wow.

00:26:36.760 Oh, yeah.

00:26:37.760 It seems to me that somebody said that's why they created the blaze was because at one

00:26:41.760 time.

00:26:42.760 Don't know who that was.

00:26:43.760 In the future.

00:26:44.760 Yeah.

00:26:45.760 I don't.

00:26:46.760 Yeah.

00:26:47.760 Seemed a little visionary now, but yeah.

00:26:48.760 Yeah.

00:26:49.760 That's weird.

00:26:50.760 Kind of weird.

00:26:51.760 Yeah.

00:26:52.760 Kind of weird.

00:26:53.760 But we'll let you know when the entire catalog is restored.

00:26:56.760 If the entire catalog is restored, I believe Apple just it takes them a while.

00:27:03.760 A second to delete, but to upload all of them.

00:27:07.760 Oh, oh, that's a painstaking process.

00:27:10.760 I bet that happens by the time the show is over today because it'll take.

00:27:14.760 Oh, you think?

00:27:15.760 Yeah, I do.

00:27:16.760 Yeah, actually.

00:27:17.760 It better be.

00:27:19.760 I don't know.

00:27:20.760 I'm saying all I'm saying.

00:27:22.760 Okay.

00:27:23.760 So, Pat, you've been following what's going on in Maui.

00:27:27.760 Oh, yeah.

00:27:28.760 Mm hmm.

00:27:29.760 What are your thoughts on this?

00:27:31.760 It seems there seems to be some suspicious elements going on there.

00:27:36.760 I don't like to do the conspiracy thing all the time, but everything is a conspiracy.

00:27:42.760 No, you know what it is.

00:27:44.760 Nobody.

00:27:45.760 I'm doing it.

00:27:46.760 They don't explain things to us.

00:27:48.760 Right.

00:27:49.760 I know one thing.

00:27:50.760 They won't tell us why certain things are happening.

00:27:53.760 They shut off the placards to everybody.

00:27:55.760 A cop shows up.

00:27:56.760 There's a line.

00:27:58.760 I don't know how many people long and they're all waiting for placards to so that they can

00:28:04.760 go to various places on the island and check their homes, see if they burn down or not.

00:28:08.760 A lot of people wanted to, you know, and you have to have a placard to go, presumably

00:28:13.760 because certain areas are still unsafe.

00:28:15.760 That's what I would think anyway.

00:28:17.760 So they're handing these out and a police officer just shows up and says, oh, no more.

00:28:21.760 We're not giving any more out.

00:28:22.760 They're like, what?

00:28:24.760 Why?

00:28:25.760 We got to check on our homes.

00:28:27.760 Yeah.

00:28:28.760 I don't know any other information.

00:28:29.760 I was just told to shut it down.

00:28:31.760 Well, by who?

00:28:32.760 That's not adequate.

00:28:33.760 By who?

00:28:34.760 And why?

00:28:36.760 Why?

00:28:37.760 We don't know.

00:28:38.760 Why did you shut off power to certain areas or water?

00:28:42.760 Why was the water turned off?

00:28:44.760 What is going on?

00:28:45.760 Fire hydrants didn't work.

00:28:47.760 It's bizarre.

00:28:48.760 How come it took so long to warn people?

00:28:52.760 Well, Pat, this was a fire hurricane.

00:28:54.760 Right.

00:28:55.760 A fire hurricane.

00:28:56.760 They call it a fire cane.

00:28:57.760 Yeah.

00:28:58.760 And, you know, scientists have never heard of this term before, but the governor of Hawaii

00:29:02.760 has heard of it.

00:29:03.760 He's done the research and found out what a fire hurricane is.

00:29:06.760 Okay.

00:29:07.760 Although the hurricane was 700 miles off the coast of Hawaii, it was a fire hurricane.

00:29:14.760 So wait, the fire hurricane was over the water?

00:29:17.760 Well, look, I'm not a scientist.

00:29:19.760 I can't.

00:29:20.760 That's weird.

00:29:21.760 And most scientists also, it's such advanced research.

00:29:24.760 They didn't know that there was such a thing as a fire hurricane until the governor said it.

00:29:28.760 But there is.

00:29:29.760 And we saw one just the other day.

00:29:30.760 Wow.

00:29:31.760 I mean, this is so embarrassing.

00:29:33.760 That is really.

00:29:34.760 It is.

00:29:35.760 Weird.

00:29:36.760 You know, there's a couple of other things that are.

00:29:39.760 Hmm.

00:29:40.760 I don't know.

00:29:42.760 Unusual.

00:29:43.760 Unusual.

00:29:44.760 Maybe worth asking about.

00:29:46.760 More unusual than a fire hurricane.

00:29:48.760 Well, I don't know about that.

00:29:51.760 So there's a couple of things that I find very interesting.

00:29:57.760 Did you know that, you know, they, they didn't have the, they didn't have the water.

00:30:04.760 They didn't set off the sirens and they failed to evacuate anybody.

00:30:12.760 But this is the fire hurricane.

00:30:13.760 This is global warming though.

00:30:14.760 That's the thing.

00:30:15.760 Yeah.

00:30:16.760 They couldn't have done any of this because of all this SUVs that we're driving in like Texas.

00:30:20.760 That's it.

00:30:21.760 This is the new thing that, that Democrats are doing.

00:30:24.760 It's now not just, Hey, global warming is an excuse to take over the economy, which of course all that still exists.

00:30:30.760 Um, you know, they, they, they will utilize every single one of these things to get more power and more control.

00:30:35.760 But in, in, in addition to that, when they screw up their day to day jobs, they also had this global warming excuse, which is a get out of jail free card.

00:30:44.760 You can't blame me.

00:30:45.760 I wasn't the Republican who drilled for oil in Alaska.

00:30:49.760 That wasn't me.

00:30:50.760 That was them.

00:30:51.760 I sure all of our safety systems failed.

00:30:54.760 That's not my fault.

00:30:56.760 That's global warming. 0.98

00:30:58.760 And the Republicans who did that to you.

00:31:00.760 God, it's so infuriating.

00:31:02.760 I'm sorry.

00:31:03.760 Did you, did you know that the, uh, the chief of police that was, you know, the guy that was in charge of the sirens and everything else?

00:31:11.760 Um, he, he's just taken a job there.

00:31:13.760 He has zero emergency experience.

00:31:15.760 Well, well, there was some, there was some emergency experience.

00:31:19.760 Okay.

00:31:20.760 Do you know this on the mainland?

00:31:21.760 Yeah.

00:31:22.760 Yeah.

00:31:23.760 Yeah.

00:31:24.760 He was, um, he was the guy that was in charge of the, um, the security for the strip at, uh, in Las Vegas.

00:31:31.760 When, uh, during the time, the shooting, the shooting happened.

00:31:36.760 Yeah.

00:31:37.760 Wow.

00:31:38.760 Interesting.

00:31:39.760 That's true.

00:31:40.760 Yeah, that's true.

00:31:41.760 Uh, and, uh, but then he left there for a while and he went to the department of justice to receive new training.

00:31:48.760 Hmm.

00:31:49.760 And now he's, uh, now he's the head guy there and in that particular place.

00:31:54.760 That is bizarre.

00:31:55.760 Yeah.

00:31:56.760 Weird, isn't it?

00:31:57.760 Yeah.

00:31:58.760 Strange.

00:31:59.760 Very strange.

00:32:00.760 Things that all, I mean, all I'm sure are just amazing coincidence.

00:32:04.760 Just, you know, and they very well could be, they could be, they very well could be.

00:32:09.760 Right.

00:32:10.760 But this government has done nothing.

00:32:12.760 You know, there's a, we did a show on FEMA and how FEMA is now being trained to, when they go into a place that has been destroyed by a natural disaster, of course, caused by global warming, um, there to green it, greenify, uh, and build back better.

00:32:33.760 Hmm.

00:32:34.760 Now, what's weird is, uh, there's been all these calls to all of these people who can't seem to call anybody, uh, but these, uh, real estate agents have called and they're offering all kinds of money.

00:32:46.760 And this is really upset the governor of Hawaii.

00:32:48.760 Yes.

00:32:49.760 I, I saw that.

00:32:50.760 And so he's thinking about, um, building a memorial there instead of building homes back, he's going to be building a memorial to how bad this fire was.

00:33:03.760 So think of that.

00:33:04.760 Um, my house burns down and I can't go back to rebuild my house because it's now a memorial for people who lost their house and their lives.

00:33:18.760 Uh, this is, by the way, can I expand on this just a little bit?

00:33:22.760 Mm hmm.

00:33:23.760 The governor's talking about banning people selling their homes to mainlanders.

00:33:28.760 Yeah.

00:33:29.760 Uh, because of all these, uh, uh, these ravenous real estate people who are coming in and harassing these people.

00:33:36.760 If you will.

00:33:37.760 Right.

00:33:38.760 Because they lost their home and people are going, Hey, I'll buy it.

00:33:40.760 I'll buy your land if you want.

00:33:42.760 And this is a huge problem for people.

00:33:44.760 And like, look, if your home just burned down, there's a good chance it would be really annoying to get a call from a real estate person offering you money for your house.

00:33:54.760 I get that.

00:33:55.760 I understand that.

00:33:56.760 It might not be the most fun thing.

00:33:57.760 First of all, you, when someone has a situation like that, you don't necessarily ban the practice, right?

00:34:02.760 Like that's not normally how society works in America.

00:34:05.760 Hey, someone doesn't like an offer from a real estate agent or whatever.

00:34:09.760 You ban all real estate sales.

00:34:10.760 Not normally the response, but I get this is an extenuating.

00:34:13.760 This is a pretty crazy scenario.

00:34:15.760 But like, what if you happen to be a person who lived in this area and you're thinking to yourself, you know, maybe I don't want to wait 10 years until they build this town back.

00:34:25.760 Maybe I would like to cash out right now and I want to move somewhere else.

00:34:28.760 And it's just my choice.

00:34:29.760 I would like to move to Idaho.

00:34:32.760 I want to move to Florida.

00:34:33.760 I want to move to the other side of the side of the island.

00:34:36.760 I just want to get out of this.

00:34:37.760 You know what?

00:34:38.760 I understand.

00:34:39.760 I love this community, but like, I don't want to wait for this.

00:34:42.760 I'm 78 years old.

00:34:43.760 I don't want to spend my last 10 years waiting for them to rebuild my town.

00:34:46.760 I want to go somewhere else.

00:34:47.760 And now the governor is going to ban you from selling your house.

00:34:51.760 And that is completely ridiculous.

00:34:53.760 And every place it's presented is like these bastard capitalists who are calling these people and asking them to sell their house.

00:35:00.760 Look, I get that it might be annoying and it might be above and beyond what you've already gone through.

00:35:06.760 Or it might be a blessing.

00:35:07.760 Or it might be a blessing for some people.

00:35:09.760 Yeah.

00:35:10.760 Let them make that choice.

00:35:11.760 No, they can't.

00:35:12.760 Not you.

00:35:13.760 This horrible governor.

00:35:14.760 No, they can't.

00:35:15.760 People are too stupid.

00:35:16.760 You can't make that decision.

00:35:17.760 People are desperate.

00:35:19.760 They're homeless and they're stupid.

00:35:22.760 And so you can't let them.

00:35:24.760 He knows best.

00:35:25.760 He knows better.

00:35:26.760 That's what it's supposed to be.

00:35:27.760 And sure, they don't have the labor to rebuild and it's going to take at least two years to clean up.

00:35:33.760 But are you going to deprive those people of two years of clean up and then endless amounts of fun in rebuilding their house?

00:35:43.760 Yeah.

00:35:44.760 It sounds like a blessing.

00:35:45.760 Yeah, it does.

00:35:46.760 And then when your house is built and there's no stores around for years on time.

00:35:50.760 Well, look, here's the here's the good thing.

00:35:52.760 The state will eventually just say, OK, we've cleaned it up and it's going to be too much.

00:35:58.760 It's the the such a scar on our communities that we're going to make it into.

00:36:03.760 We're going to make it into a national preserve and then they'll pay you less for your house than the capitalist was was willing to pay.

00:36:12.760 I'm sure it's much less.

00:36:13.760 And so then you'll have the two years plus maybe about another two years of fighting it.

00:36:19.760 And and then you'll move anyway.

00:36:21.760 Yeah. When you're like one hundred and eight years old, there'll be a Supreme Court case that you get to see as it eventually goes up.

00:36:27.760 Why not waste the next the last next 30 years of your life litigating this?

00:36:32.760 I mean, look, I'm not saying I'm recommending people do if they want to do it, they can.

00:36:36.760 But like to prevent it legally, people can't make offers on your home.

00:36:42.760 The other thing they're doing is like, I can't believe these tourists are still coming to Hawaii.

00:36:47.760 I don't know the people on the other side of the island whose entire livelihood depends on tourists coming to Hawaii might disagree with you.

00:36:54.760 Yeah, well, they don't want that either.

00:36:56.760 I mean, this is the dark future kicking in.

00:37:01.760 This is dark future.

00:37:04.760 Everything I write about in that book.

00:37:06.760 That's what's happening in Hawaii.

00:37:08.760 They're going to seize that land.

00:37:10.760 They're going to block capitalism.

00:37:12.760 They're trying to make it so more people can't come.

00:37:15.760 They're trying to make it a smart island.

00:37:17.760 Yeah, I mean, it's and that's why they don't want capitalists coming in and buying a property because they want it.

00:37:23.760 Wait, what is a smart island where it's all controlled by AI?

00:37:27.760 Really?

00:37:28.760 You haven't heard that?

00:37:29.760 No.

00:37:30.760 Yeah.

00:37:31.760 It's not a theory.

00:37:32.760 It's not a theory.

00:37:33.760 I haven't heard about a smart island.

00:37:34.760 Right.

00:37:35.760 I've never heard of smart cities.

00:37:36.760 Yeah.

00:37:37.760 Well, they wanted the whole island to be.

00:37:38.760 Wow.

00:37:39.760 Smart.

00:37:40.760 We always think that smart city is like, oh, they got Wi-Fi everywhere.

00:37:43.760 Yeah.

00:37:44.760 Yeah.

00:37:45.760 That's not what a smart city is.

00:37:47.760 No.

00:37:48.760 Read all about it in the book Dark Future.

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00:39:12.760 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:39:32.760 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:39:35.760 All right.

00:39:36.760 Let's see.

00:39:37.760 What else do we have on order?

00:39:40.760 We're going to pick up Hawaii again because I have some really good news.

00:39:47.760 Can we please play cut one?

00:39:50.760 This is Podesta celebrating the one-year anniversary of the Inflation Reduction Act.

00:39:56.760 Here it is.

00:39:57.760 As Karine noted, we're marking the one-year anniversary of a truly transformative piece of legislation,

00:40:03.760 the Inflation Reduction Act, which is the largest investment in clean energy and climate action ever.

00:40:08.760 I thought it was an inflation reduction in the United States in the history of the world.

00:40:11.760 But first, I want to acknowledge that today's event is coming during a time of heartbreak as the toll of extreme weather fueled by climate change is being felt across the country and the world.

00:40:23.760 No.

00:40:24.760 No.

00:40:25.760 This summer has brought one climate disaster after another from extreme heat in Arizona and Texas

00:40:30.760 and across the southeast to floods in Vermont and upstate New York to thick smoke from Canadian wildfires.

00:40:36.760 And all of us have watched in horror as the Maui fires have claimed over 100 lives, the largest loss of life of a fire in the last 100 years in America.

00:40:46.760 They're saying they had nothing to do with climate change.

00:40:47.760 To stop these disasters from getting even worse, we have to cut the carbon pollution that's driving the climate crisis.

00:40:53.760 No.

00:40:54.760 And that's what the Inflation Reduction Act is all about.

00:40:56.760 What an idiotic response.

00:40:57.760 It makes the largest investment...

00:40:59.760 Stop.

00:41:00.760 First of all, I mean, why is the largest investment, the most important investment in climate change called the Inflation Reduction Act?

00:41:08.760 Hmm.

00:41:09.760 Because they were lying?

00:41:10.760 Yeah.

00:41:11.760 And couldn't get it through the right way.

00:41:14.760 So they just labeled it something else, lied, and they're still lying by saying it's working.

00:41:21.760 It's not working.

00:41:22.760 You look at every expert, every economic expert, they're saying it's making things worse.

00:41:27.760 It has nothing to do with anything getting better on inflation.

00:41:32.760 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:41:34.760 Turning us into taking action from being a member of a partner in the big world.

00:41:35.760 Let's go.

00:41:36.760 Let's go.

00:41:37.760 let's go.

00:41:39.760 Let's go.

00:41:40.760 Let's do it.

00:41:41.760 They have no room to compromise.

00:41:45.760 We've got to stand together.

00:41:47.760 It's gonna survive.

00:41:52.760 What you're about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:42:13.620 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:42:16.940 Hello, you sick, twisted freak. 1.00

00:42:22.980 Welcome to the program.

00:42:24.640 The most deadly fire in Hawaii and in American history for at least the last hundred years has happened.

00:42:34.800 And they're blaming it on global warming and climate change and all kinds of weird things are happening.

00:42:40.880 We're going to take you through this fire and show you exactly what we do know.

00:42:48.160 And that strangely does not answer why certain things are being done.

00:42:55.260 But maybe the book Dark Future does.

00:42:58.940 The strange story of the fire in Lahaina, Maui, Hawaii.

00:43:04.080 Next.

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00:44:00.360 I want to start with a story that is up in glennbeck.com, and it is all about you.

00:44:11.600 The wildfire that raged across Maui became the deadliest fire in U.S. history, claiming more than 100 lives.

00:44:18.980 I think that number is going to go up.

00:44:20.740 As search and rescue missions continue throughout the burnt remains of the historic town, Lahaina, in times of profound tragedy,

00:44:29.920 Glenn's audience has rallied around those enduring profound need and suffering through generous giving.

00:44:36.360 On air this week, Glenn rallied the troops again to support the grieving communities in Maui,

00:44:41.680 challenging his audience to raise more money than the U.S. government aid package.

00:44:46.360 And you're doing just this.

00:44:48.620 I want you to listen to this.

00:44:49.500 As of 8.52 p.m. yesterday, you, Glenn's audience, raised $472,824 for the people of Maui via Glenn's nonprofit Mercury One.

00:45:04.700 That's nearly half a million dollars raised within the first couple of days to our call of action to match the government's aid package,

00:45:13.700 which has now been raised to a whopping $2.3 million through FEMA.

00:45:18.260 That means this audience alone has done one-fifth of the lifting the entire FEMA and United States government has done.

00:45:28.800 One-fifth.

00:45:31.160 All of those proceeds, every single penny, will go towards the residents as they grieve and rebuild in the tough days ahead.

00:45:39.220 Through your committed support, we are well on its way, our way to surpassing the government's package.

00:45:47.420 This is something that I said when I first started Mercury One.

00:45:51.140 If we want the government to do less, then we have to do more.

00:45:55.080 I would love if this audience, we'll never be recognized for it, but it doesn't matter.

00:46:01.680 We're not doing it for that.

00:46:02.820 I would love to be able to say that this audience raised more for Maui than the federal government did.

00:46:12.400 Why do we need the federal government involved in all of our lives?

00:46:16.620 Now, yesterday, so you know, our website was hacked into, and Apple dropped my podcast.

00:46:26.820 So all of this was done yesterday just on the power of the radio program or people listening on other things other than Apple.

00:46:35.260 The radio, Blaze TV, and other than Apple, podcast listeners.

00:46:42.160 We can do so much more, and I want to tell you how bad things really, truly are.

00:46:53.140 I got a note yesterday from somebody, and they said,

00:46:59.180 Glenn, I just got this about 10 minutes ago.

00:47:01.060 Things are deteriorating rapidly.

00:47:03.500 We have a corporate accountant who does a lot of business in Lahaina.

00:47:09.180 I sent him a clip of a girl talking about what was happening there.

00:47:12.160 Here was his response.

00:47:14.280 Total disaster in every way.

00:47:17.360 Fire hydrants did not work.

00:47:19.740 No one was evacuated.

00:47:21.560 No police or fire crew helping evacuate.

00:47:24.740 I can't even file insurance claims for 20 businesses as the area is locked down by National Guard,

00:47:32.060 so insurance adjusters can't even observe the ruins in person.

00:47:36.240 Question mark, question mark, question mark, question mark.

00:47:39.260 No claim can be filed, question mark.

00:47:42.800 I've been dealing with this all week, and I'm told their bodies everywhere,

00:47:46.740 and for a week they've been hiding the death toll.

00:47:49.620 No local leadership.

00:47:51.500 Maui now taken over by the feds.

00:47:54.180 None of these people will have enough money to rebuild.

00:47:57.220 Too expensive as everything has to be new building codes.

00:48:00.960 That'll mean rich people will buy the land and will be even less housing for locals.

00:48:06.800 It will end up being the worst natural disaster in our history.

00:48:10.520 95% of the island is untouched by this.

00:48:14.460 A rebuild of Lahaina will take 10 years.

00:48:17.500 The cleanup alone will take 2 to 3 years, as there is no infrastructure or labor to do it.

00:48:23.380 So that's the note I received last night.

00:48:27.860 I want you to know that because of you, we are already doing amazing things.

00:48:36.740 We have Operation Barbecue Relief, Samaritan's Purse, Operation Blessing, ITDRC, Harvest Church,

00:48:45.020 which that's Greg Laurie's church in California, but he also has Sister Church in Maui.

00:48:49.340 Drew Friedrich, Chief Operating Officer, I got a note from him from Operation Blessing.

00:48:55.100 He said, I want you to know you are the first organization on the ground to provide aid.

00:49:01.240 Operation Blessing, we have helped them to get there.

00:49:08.400 Let's see, Samaritan's Purse, they wrote in, thank you, thank you, thank you.

00:49:14.420 The generosity of your audience in Mercury One, which has helped us airlift 17 tons of supplies to Maui in the wake of the deadliest fire.

00:49:25.460 Supplies on that DC-8 cargo aircraft include hygiene kits, solar lights, cooking kits, plastic tarp,

00:49:31.660 equipment needed for us to help in the aftermath of this disaster as residents are allowed to return to their communities.

00:49:38.060 Samaritan's Purse volunteers will help homeowners sift through the ashes for any sentimental keepsakes that may have survived the flames.

00:49:47.660 Also, Operation Barbecue Relief is there, and they provide food, hot food, for any of the workers and also any of the families who have been displaced.

00:49:57.900 Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

00:50:03.580 The attack on our website did not slow you down yesterday, and I find it interesting that two things happened yesterday.

00:50:12.680 As I just said, we want to raise more money than the federal government because we want them to do less.

00:50:19.920 As I went into that commercial break, hackers hacked into mercuryone.org and took the entire site down.

00:50:34.200 Luckily, we have a very good security team, and it went right back up probably within an hour or so.

00:50:41.360 But our staff over at Mercury One just started taking phone calls, people making donations.

00:50:46.260 This is one that we really want to be helpful with because these are not rich people on Hawaii.

00:50:56.160 This is a local historic town, and what's being done to it, I think you can find in Dark Future, the book that I wrote.

00:51:06.640 But let me just give you the facts of what happened because it is not what's being reported.

00:51:14.280 I'll do that in 60 seconds.

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00:52:17.060 So I want to give you something from the Von Mises people. 0.98

00:52:40.360 This is from Mises.org.

00:52:41.680 I think it is such a great article that I should read it verbatim.

00:52:48.380 The most destructive natural disasters are never 100% natural.

00:52:55.480 Human choices, land use, and government policies play a big role in how harmful hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, flash floods, and wildfires are to affect communities.

00:53:07.340 Though the details are still emerging, it has become clear that government failure did much to make this disaster worse and possibly even started it.

00:53:19.680 While the so-called experts are blaming climate change and in the process demanding that government grab even more power and authority to someday give us better weather,

00:53:32.260 the destructiveness of this fire was the product of an all-powerful and all-incompetent regime.

00:53:39.200 The specific origins of this fire are still being investigated, but there is much we already know.

00:53:46.000 The city of Lahaina sits on the west coast of Maui, Hawaii's second largest island.

00:53:51.260 It's surrounded by grassland, much of which is owned by the state.

00:53:57.320 This is really important.

00:53:59.560 Nearly a decade ago, Hawaii Wildlife Management Organization, a research nonprofit, warned the Hawaiian government that the area around Lahaina was extremely fire-prone due to frequent downslope winds,

00:54:13.980 steep terrain, steep terrain, and dry grass.

00:54:17.320 Little to nothing was done by the state government to address these risks.

00:54:22.640 A subsequent report in 2020 added that an invasive species of exceptionally flammable grass was prevalent in the surrounding fields

00:54:32.260 and that passing hurricanes created strong winds known to fuel wildfires on the islands.

00:54:39.060 Early last week, Hurricane Dora crossed the ocean south of Hawaii.

00:54:46.040 By early Tuesday morning, August 8th, winds as fast as 60 miles an hour were blowing down the slopes of West Maui Mountains into Lahaina.

00:54:55.900 Around sunrise, a large fault was detected in the power grid, indicating a downed power line.

00:55:06.080 Twenty minutes later, the first reports of fire came in from an area around the road uphill and upwind from the city.

00:55:15.020 The area where flames were first spotted is full of electrical infrastructure, mostly operated by Hawaiian Electric,

00:55:25.420 the state's monopoly electricity supplier.

00:55:29.540 This included a substation and a multitude of power lines.

00:55:34.660 Most of the land in the area is owned by the state of Hawaii, except for a parcel belonging to the estate of one of Hawaii's last princesses.

00:55:43.700 This parcel housed on a solar farm supplying electricity to the Hawaiian electric substation.

00:55:50.960 Early last year, NPR published a glowing article about the solar project, praising it as the direct result of government regulation crafted to help transition Hawaii to 100% renewable power by 2045.

00:56:06.960 But on the morning of August 8th, as winds hammered the old wooden utility poles,

00:56:13.000 this highly electrified area in the dry grasses above Lahaina was quickly becoming dangerous.

00:56:21.180 Yet no formal procedure was in place to shut off sections of the grid in the face of severe fire risks.

00:56:29.260 As a result, 29 fully energized poles fell across West Maui that day.

00:56:36.740 Say that again, 20 electric, 29 fully energized electrical poles.

00:56:44.860 Have you ever seen one of those go down?

00:56:47.660 They tend to throw sparks.

00:56:50.680 Even with the down poles in the way, the first firefighters on the scene met with some early success.

00:56:57.180 Around 9 a.m., the county fire department declared the fire 100% contained.

00:57:02.600 But the message to residents included an ominous request.

00:57:07.460 The county's water pumps were powered by electricity, much of which was frantically being turned off to deactivate the down lines.

00:57:18.160 Officials asked the public to conserve water to preserve water pressure.

00:57:22.940 But by mid-afternoon, a flare-up brought the fire back to life on the Lahaina Bypass, a major road that heads straight into town.

00:57:31.600 The flames moved swiftly into Lahaina at 4.46 p.m., one minute after the county government finally set out an alert to warn the city's population, largely without power, about the flare-up that had occurred over an hour before.

00:57:49.660 To make matters worse, county officials failed to activate emergency sirens, leaving residents unaware of the danger bearing down on them.

00:57:59.520 And as firefighters heroically rushed toward the flame and trying to save their own community, they found that there was little to no water pressure in the fire hydrants, which quickly ran dry.

00:58:14.100 So far, I haven't heard anything about global warming.

00:58:16.700 With a single backed-up highway leading out of the city, many residents of Lahaina had nowhere to go.

00:58:25.440 Some scrambled into the ocean to escape the smoke and the flames.

00:58:29.800 But in the end, many couldn't get out.

00:58:32.620 At least 99 people have been confirmed dead.

00:58:35.800 And as of this writing, making this the deadly American wildfire in over a century, in addition, 2,207 buildings were destroyed with property damages expected to reach $5.5 billion.

00:58:48.480 To review, a power company, shielded from competition by the state, placed electrical infrastructure among highly flammable state-owned grass fields above the historic city of Lahaina,

00:59:05.300 which the government was twice warned were highly susceptible to fire.

00:59:10.600 And once fire broke out, a combination of defective water infrastructure, terrible communication by government officials,

00:59:19.720 and only one escape route doomed the people of Lahaina to the worst wildfire experienced in this country in over 100 years.

00:59:28.000 This was government failure through and through.

00:59:32.300 In Human Action, Ludwig von Mises explains that on the market,

00:59:38.220 the ultimate source of profits is foresight, the ability to anticipate future conditions.

00:59:46.960 And economic loss occurs when market actors fail to anticipate the future.

00:59:53.500 The possibility of riches if one succeeds, and the guarantee of painful failures if one doesn't,

01:00:00.440 forces producers and service providers on the market to constantly weigh risks and opportunities.

01:00:08.620 Government, however, immunizes itself from the profit and loss system,

01:00:14.240 and therefore from much of the need to weigh risk.

01:00:18.700 Sure, some county officials may resign because of this,

01:00:21.940 and the share price of Hawaiian electric may dip,

01:00:24.960 but the people of Maui will be forced to keep compensating the very organizations that have failed them,

01:00:31.720 and there is nothing natural about that kind of a disaster.

01:00:36.320 Now, I want you to take this beyond Maui.

01:00:42.120 Why are we still in the financial troubles that we were in in 08?

01:00:47.060 Why are we still looking at banking collapses?

01:00:50.260 I'll tell you why.

01:00:52.680 Because the banks weren't held responsible.

01:00:55.760 No one felt the actual pain except you.

01:01:01.320 Why are our schools failing us?

01:01:05.900 Because the teachers' unions are in bed with the Department of Education,

01:01:10.380 and no one is held responsible.

01:01:13.480 Nobody pays the price for this education except you and your children.

01:01:18.480 Afghanistan, why did all those people die?

01:01:22.340 Don't know, because no one was held responsible.

01:01:26.440 Inflation, it's the government in bed with the Fed,

01:01:29.760 and no one is held responsible.

01:01:32.740 Crime on the streets, no one is held responsible.

01:01:36.060 Crime and corruption in D.C., no one is held responsible.

01:01:40.300 The media lies and lies and lies,

01:01:43.180 and no one is held responsible.

01:01:46.240 All of these things is the government in bed with private corporations or unions.

01:01:55.520 And they don't have to pay a price because the government is in bed with them. 0.99

01:02:03.940 The government never has to pay a price because they can just print more money.

01:02:08.620 The only one that pays a price is you.

01:02:12.780 And in this particular case, the poor people of Lahaina in Maui.

01:02:20.240 Where are they going to go?

01:02:22.460 Because I can guarantee you, if Dark Future is right,

01:02:25.840 the government is going to take that land and make it into a national park or something like that.

01:02:31.480 Please, help the people in Lahaina today.

01:02:38.700 Any donation is welcome.

01:02:41.540 But let's raise money and show the average person,

01:02:46.700 the people who actually lost their homes and their lives,

01:02:50.800 that we actually care.

01:02:52.840 Go to mercuryone.org, mercuryone.org,

01:02:57.000 and donate now.

01:02:58.620 A disaster relief fund at mercuryone.org.

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01:04:30.280 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:04:40.760 I had a strange reaction yesterday to the Apple podcast thing.

01:04:45.880 Luckily, nobody in my business had that same reaction,

01:04:49.880 but I really was like, okay, so here it is.

01:04:53.860 All right, ready to go.

01:04:55.000 Bring it on.

01:04:55.460 Um, they canceled me yesterday on Apple, the podcast.

01:05:00.900 Uh, they took over 3,000 episodes down.

01:05:04.980 There are still only 1,915 of them that have been restored.

01:05:11.000 We're waiting, Apple, for the rest of the library.

01:05:15.400 Over a decade of my work, gone yesterday.

01:05:21.460 In the blink of an eye.

01:05:23.120 With no warning, no strikes, no phone calls, nothing.

01:05:28.340 Just gone.

01:05:30.120 Who treats their business that way?

01:05:32.740 Who treats their customers that way?

01:05:36.200 Apple.

01:05:37.480 You know why?

01:05:38.780 Because they're so big, they don't think you have a choice.

01:05:41.840 They don't care.

01:05:43.800 They don't care.

01:05:46.780 None of these people do.

01:05:48.600 And why don't they care?

01:05:50.020 Because, well, who's going to do anything about it?

01:05:52.960 Where are you going to go?

01:05:54.240 It's like Disney.

01:05:55.280 Now, you're showing Disney where you're going to go.

01:05:58.700 But with Apple, what are you going to do?

01:06:00.500 Are you going to buy a Google phone?

01:06:01.920 That's worse.

01:06:05.320 It is.

01:06:06.280 Is it worse or is it equally bad?

01:06:08.500 It's worse, I think.

01:06:10.020 There's still some attempt at privacy with Apple.

01:06:16.040 Apple's privacy is better than other brands, typically.

01:06:20.020 But again, that's a totally different problem, really.

01:06:22.860 I mean, privacy is a different concern than whether they're going to allow you to access content.

01:06:28.180 So, I mean, who knows?

01:06:30.340 The point is, there's not a lot of great options.

01:06:32.420 No, it's going to happen.

01:06:33.660 It will happen.

01:06:35.040 At some point, you and I will lose track of each other if we haven't found a way.

01:06:42.000 And the way that I put together 10, 11 years ago now was the Blaze.

01:06:46.680 So, we didn't have anyone in between us.

01:06:50.740 Just you and me.

01:06:53.420 And I urge you to sign up now at the Blaze.

01:06:58.080 As we've shown yesterday, it can happen in the blink of an eye.

01:07:04.200 And if we didn't have radio, Twitter, quite honestly, if Twitter would have been in bed with Apple, you wouldn't have known it.

01:07:15.620 It would have taken you a while to figure it out.

01:07:19.320 And then what?

01:07:21.840 So, thank you, Elon Musk, for at least giving the opportunity currently for people who are being bullied a chance to speak out.

01:07:33.520 And thank you to everybody who supported us and got us back on.

01:07:38.680 You know, I have to tell you, nobody knows how great of an audience this is.

01:07:45.700 Nobody cares to look.

01:07:47.760 I don't think there is, and I mean this sincerely.

01:07:50.400 I've said this for years.

01:07:52.180 But I mean it sincerely.

01:07:53.860 Honestly, I honestly cannot think of an audience for a commercial show that has ever, has ever been this good, has ever been this giving.

01:08:07.280 Ever.

01:08:08.120 Ever.

01:08:08.440 I mean, when Maui is in trouble, and I can mention it, I don't think I mentioned it more than three times in passing.

01:08:18.060 One time I talked about it, and then two other times I just said, hey, Mercury One is helping out in Maui if you want to help out.

01:08:24.860 And half a million dollars.

01:08:26.960 From you.

01:08:28.580 And you're not rich.

01:08:30.500 You're not, I mean, you are the average person.

01:08:32.780 You're struggling, you're trying to pay gas, but everybody gets so beaten down and there's no good people around.

01:08:42.860 There are millions of you.

01:08:46.320 There are millions of you that gather every day around this show.

01:08:51.920 I don't know why this show has this audience other than we're like-minded.

01:09:01.880 I still believe in the goodness of people.

01:09:04.620 I still believe in the American people.

01:09:06.600 And I think you do too.

01:09:09.100 And we have a responsibility.

01:09:11.140 We can be a beacon of hope.

01:09:13.960 Look at what this audience, look at what this audience has done.

01:09:17.320 Just the last couple of years, since Biden has got into office, look what we've done.

01:09:24.080 $35 million for Afghanis.

01:09:26.520 We're still on the ground helping people in Afghanistan.

01:09:31.160 We're still doing stuff in Afghanistan.

01:09:32.480 We are still on the ground in Afghanistan.

01:09:35.640 We're the only one left.

01:09:37.220 The only one left.

01:09:38.220 There are still people trying to get out.

01:09:39.960 We're still doing it.

01:09:42.000 Wow.

01:09:42.720 I have no idea.

01:09:43.740 The Operation Underground Railroad.

01:09:46.360 Yeah, the movie Sound of Freedom.

01:09:48.280 Sound of Freedom.

01:09:48.880 Based on that.

01:09:49.680 Based on what this audience did.

01:09:52.360 That operation was 100% paid for by you.

01:09:56.640 By you.

01:09:57.900 And that's not you saying that.

01:09:58.860 That's Tim Ballard saying that.

01:10:00.300 He said it in multiple interviews about the movie and about Underground Railroad.

01:10:05.660 I mean, you started that movement.

01:10:08.680 You have been supporting that movement.

01:10:12.080 What was the commercial I just read?

01:10:13.500 Just this year alone, this audience has saved 28,000 babies from abortion.

01:10:22.420 28,000 just this year.

01:10:26.340 We were up at like 80,000 last year.

01:10:30.780 Think of that.

01:10:32.820 30,000 people will grow up.

01:10:35.960 How many of these kids will become something great?

01:10:42.260 Do something miraculous?

01:10:47.820 Every time.

01:10:49.700 And this, you're the kind of people I want to live around.

01:10:53.800 You know, what can we do?

01:10:55.140 What can we do?

01:10:56.720 Look at what you're doing.

01:10:57.980 Think about all of the things that you have helped with.

01:11:05.160 And I think Afghanistan was the most universally.

01:11:09.080 Well, that's the craziest one, maybe of all the whole time.

01:11:12.080 Yeah.

01:11:12.380 And I cannot believe that happened and that.

01:11:14.840 Yeah.

01:11:15.200 This audience was responsible for it.

01:11:17.540 It's incredible.

01:11:18.560 But it was when that week we all felt like there's no hope.

01:11:22.080 There's no hope.

01:11:23.300 And then all of a sudden there was, and it was because of individuals.

01:11:29.040 You know, I can't, I can't help the people in Maui.

01:11:33.320 The government's clearly not doing it, but all of us together, we can do that.

01:11:40.680 We can get people out of Afghanistan. 1.00

01:11:42.820 We can do anything.

01:11:44.280 And that's the kind of stuff that gives me hope.

01:11:48.920 When that starts to go away, that's when you'll know America is done or she's just flat out broke. 0.92

01:11:57.080 I mean, think about it too.

01:11:58.100 $35 million a couple of years ago, really before Bidenomics fully kicked in.

01:12:03.560 That was like $100 trillion today.

01:12:05.860 So that's a lot of, that's a lot of an impact.

01:12:09.800 That's a big impact right there.

01:12:11.080 Think about what that means.

01:12:14.460 I mean, the hope that I hear from people that go to the movie and see Sound of Freedom and the hope they have, that comes from you.

01:12:28.660 Don't dismiss that I don't do anything.

01:12:32.320 I haven't done anything.

01:12:33.480 I don't.

01:12:35.160 Yeah, you're part of a group that is doing some really great things.

01:12:39.860 Really great things.

01:12:42.040 As long as that remains, there's hope.

01:12:46.600 There's an amazing book slash documentary slash movie to be made about all of the things that this audience has accomplished over the past 20 years.

01:12:55.520 I mean, it's insanity.

01:12:57.300 You know, and I thought about it the other day.

01:12:58.720 You know how this show, why this show got syndicated?

01:13:02.600 I mean, it certainly wasn't the host.

01:13:04.420 No, it wasn't.

01:13:05.280 It was because this host said there's a kid who the neighborhood is trying because they have these HOA rules.

01:13:16.080 They won't let this kid who's dying of cancer build a treehouse.

01:13:21.480 And I said, come on, let's go build this kid a treehouse.

01:13:25.560 And we did.

01:13:27.300 And I broadcast from that treehouse with that kid and the hearts and the minds of the neighborhood was completely changed.

01:13:35.980 That was the what that was the show that I did early on that syndicators were like, wow, that was really cool.

01:13:44.620 And I'm like, I know what a cool audience, huh?

01:13:47.480 And from there, we've just been doing it over and over and over.

01:13:52.780 We've gone from a treehouse.

01:13:55.740 To rescuing.

01:13:57.580 What was it?

01:13:58.140 Final number, like 18,000 people in Afghanistan.

01:14:02.940 28,000 babies this year.

01:14:07.020 The impact you're going to have in Maui.

01:14:09.500 When when the government is stopping everything and they see that they may not ever know your name, they may not even know Mercury one because we don't tout it.

01:14:22.700 We've immediately turned this money over to people who we know are doing good.

01:14:31.020 So Samaritan's purse. 0.98

01:14:33.360 We load up a plane for him.

01:14:35.260 We give them the money to load up the plane that they know they need.

01:14:38.700 And we pay for the plane and ship it over there.

01:14:42.440 So others will get the credit, but it will be you that did it.

01:14:48.220 Just.

01:14:50.620 I'm humbled by you.

01:14:52.960 I'm in awe of you.

01:14:55.520 I am grateful for you.

01:14:59.600 And while nobody will ever thank you because our name's not on it.

01:15:04.620 Your work is being recorded somewhere.

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01:16:44.000 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:16:58.420 You know, it's great is I got to play this because I just think this is so great when a when a grandparent is out with kids and, you know, just having a good time.

01:17:11.520 Cut to here.

01:17:12.540 Here's Joe Biden yesterday.

01:17:13.560 I want to say one thing to your children.

01:17:16.280 I know some really great ice cream places around.

01:17:21.020 Daddy owes you.

01:17:23.180 Talk to me afterwards.

01:17:24.700 OK, and then we'll go to Michael Jackson's amusement park.

01:17:28.420 Hey, yeah.

01:17:30.500 What is wrong with us?

01:17:32.180 We all know.

01:17:34.140 Come on.

01:17:35.720 This is exactly what we did with Michael Jackson.

01:17:38.400 We're all like, yeah, but I mean, I mean, probably not.

01:17:42.700 Come on.

01:17:44.500 You leaving your kid with with Uncle Joe?

01:17:47.680 Not me.

01:17:48.540 I'm not.

01:17:49.240 You leaving your daughter at any age with Uncle Joe?

01:17:52.160 Not me.

01:17:52.960 There's definitely something creepy about the dude and there's no question about it.

01:17:57.860 I don't know what it is.

01:17:58.880 I don't know what he's up to.

01:17:59.940 I don't know what he's what's going on.

01:18:01.440 We're going to go through this every single time.

01:18:04.380 Every time there's a famous pedophile, we're going to be like, what?

01:18:11.500 Every time there's a famous pedophile.

01:18:14.140 Yeah, well, I mean, Michael Jackson.

01:18:16.700 I don't believe he was convicted of any crimes on that particular topic.

01:18:22.260 Yeah.

01:18:22.980 I mean, there's accusations.

01:18:24.420 A couple thousand of them.

01:18:25.980 Sure.

01:18:26.600 And the entire country.

01:18:28.380 Yeah, kind of new.

01:18:29.160 Kind of new.

01:18:30.100 I mean, kind of new.

01:18:32.100 Kind of new.

01:18:33.160 You know, this guy.

01:18:34.560 Oh, your hair smells delicious.

01:18:36.700 I could just lick you up. 1.00

01:18:38.080 Want to have some ice cream with me, little girl?

01:18:40.080 Oh, my gosh.

01:18:41.220 Very strange.

01:18:42.180 And for all the criticism Hunter gets for the prostitutes, it's certainly preferable to 1.00

01:18:46.080 the alternative.

01:18:47.240 Oh, yeah.

01:18:47.740 You know, hey, even the Russian prostitutes. 1.00

01:18:48.980 He's turning this around, I think.

01:18:50.100 Yeah, yeah.

01:18:50.980 He's like, at least I'm not a stupid, you know.

01:18:54.440 Okay.

01:18:55.260 It's a tad dark.

01:18:56.440 Maybe it's a tad dark.

01:18:57.700 Maybe that's.

01:18:58.300 Maybe.

01:18:58.800 Maybe.

01:18:59.060 Maybe it was a little.

01:18:59.780 Maybe.

01:19:00.000 Maybe a little too dark.

01:19:01.320 So, Saurabh Amari has been on the program before.

01:19:05.920 Yeah.

01:19:06.020 He's written a new book called Tyranny, Inc.

01:19:08.900 How Private Power Crushed American Liberty and What to Do About It.

01:19:14.040 And I'm reading it and I'm like, yeah, I agree with that.

01:19:17.440 I agree with that.

01:19:18.200 Yeah.

01:19:18.620 He diagnoses the problem.

01:19:20.340 He's got it.

01:19:21.180 He's got it.

01:19:22.540 And then, see if you think, see if you think there's an issue here with this.

01:19:28.040 I mean, just with me.

01:19:30.120 Okay.

01:19:30.580 And then he says, hang on, I've got it highlighted here someplace.

01:19:36.040 Nice.

01:19:37.600 Most important in political exchange, capitalism alters the distribution of social income for

01:19:43.040 the better.

01:19:45.540 Let's see.

01:19:46.960 Shoot.

01:19:47.680 Now I don't.

01:19:48.300 I'll find it by the time he gets on.

01:19:50.120 But he mentions that, you know, one of the great examples of what I'm talking about, where

01:19:55.720 we can fix this is Woodrow Wilson.

01:19:58.580 Oh, no.

01:19:59.140 Oh, boy.

01:20:00.180 I got to that page and I was like, I think we're going to have a problem here.

01:20:05.600 But.

01:20:06.560 Well, this is, it'll be an interesting conversation.

01:20:08.500 Yeah.

01:20:08.860 I mean.

01:20:09.700 And I'm not, you know, I never, I never ask people to be on the show and then bash them.

01:20:15.640 Oh, no.

01:20:16.160 No.

01:20:16.500 I just want to.

01:20:17.060 I've never been on before.

01:20:17.740 I know.

01:20:18.440 But it'll be, you know, look, we are in an interesting point when it comes to the right

01:20:22.760 and conservatism in general, in that there are a bunch of different paths forward.

01:20:28.320 You know, you can see really positive things in a lot of those paths, but it's important

01:20:33.180 to choose wisely.

01:20:34.100 And I think that's what the big conversation on the right is right now.

01:20:36.640 How do you, what do you do about this stuff?

01:20:38.140 We can kind of all look at it and say, hey, there are real problems here.

01:20:41.600 How do we react to that?

01:20:42.840 And that's what this book is about.

01:20:44.540 Well, the most disturbing thing that is happening right now is this talk on the right of an

01:20:49.860 all-powerful executive that you just have to unleash the power of the executive and let

01:20:57.860 him just take care of everything.

01:20:59.400 Yeah.

01:20:59.560 That's called a dictatorship.

01:21:01.960 Right.

01:21:02.760 It's called a dictatorship.

01:21:04.000 Yeah.

01:21:04.240 And like, some of that, like, I think there's always an idea that feels good if your guy

01:21:12.080 is doing it, but it feels good to the left right now.

01:21:14.880 They don't seem to have a problem with it.

01:21:15.920 They don't seem to have a problem with it at all.

01:21:17.620 Yeah.

01:21:17.780 But in the long run, it's usually not a good idea.

01:21:21.260 It doesn't tend to work out all that well.

01:21:22.660 Yeah, I don't.

01:21:23.520 I mean, I, you know.

01:21:25.140 I don't think it's really good.

01:21:25.860 You would say you're not for a dictatorship is what you're saying.

01:21:28.940 No.

01:21:29.380 Wow.

01:21:30.020 That's a great stance.

01:21:31.380 The early model was laid down by progressives like Woodrow Wilson, who his policy showcased

01:21:37.120 a state's indispensable role in directing private activity in a complex.

01:21:42.860 Is that what he did?

01:21:43.940 Is that, is that really what he did?

01:21:45.360 Oh, well.

01:21:45.800 Because, uh.

01:21:46.480 It was, it was indispensable to him.

01:21:48.240 Yeah.

01:21:48.500 I'd be interested to hear what he means by that.

01:21:50.740 Exactly.

01:22:01.380 What you're about to hear.

01:22:30.980 Here is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

01:22:37.300 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:22:39.720 Hello, America.

01:22:43.040 I think we are going to have one of the most important and interesting conversations that

01:22:49.760 I think all conservatives need to have, all Americans need to have.

01:22:54.400 But I think all conservatives, for sure, because there is something afoot in the conservative

01:23:01.220 movement.

01:23:01.700 And we have to decide who are we, where are we headed?

01:23:05.980 Are we headed to some new, uh, refounding something that is taking our cornerstone of

01:23:15.300 life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, and, and basic bill of rights kind of ideas and putting

01:23:23.760 a new cornerstone in.

01:23:25.380 A lot of people say, yes, we're not going back.

01:23:30.700 So Rob, uh, Amari is the author of Tyranny Inc.

01:23:34.600 And I really like, so Rob, he has been editor of the New York post.

01:23:39.800 Then I think he was the editor, uh, for the op-ed page at the wall street journal, uh, which

01:23:46.160 is very, very conservative.

01:23:47.800 Uh, and he's written a new book and I'm reading it and I'm like, okay, I agree with the problem.

01:23:52.220 I agree with the problem.

01:23:52.880 I agree with the problem.

01:23:53.680 And then I come across a line that says, uh, the early model that was laid down by progressives

01:24:00.600 like Woodrow Wilson.

01:24:02.380 Do I need to read any more?

01:24:04.560 And so I thought I really should get so Rob on because, uh, we got to talk about Woodrow

01:24:09.880 Wilson.

01:24:10.740 So we're going to do that in 60 seconds.

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01:25:32.700 Now, so Rob, not often do I have a friend that says, you know, Woodrow Wilson was great,

01:25:39.600 uh, but I'm making the exception with you and I, I really want to go through, uh, your book.

01:25:46.900 I've enjoyed, I've enjoyed reading it.

01:25:49.960 Well, thank you for having me back, Glenn.

01:25:52.160 I'm happy to talk about old Woodrow.

01:25:54.940 Okay.

01:25:55.960 So first of all, outline the problem that you see.

01:26:01.380 Yeah, sure.

01:26:02.260 Uh, it's a problem of economic coercion that ordinary people face in daily life.

01:26:10.000 We as an Americans, but especially as the conservative movement in the last few generations,

01:26:15.560 since Goldwater Reagan has come to think of coercion and unjust coercion as only what government

01:26:23.660 does.

01:26:24.120 In recent years, we've come face to face with a new motive of coercion, which is either directed

01:26:33.020 exclusively from the private sector, from, from large corporations, banks, et cetera, or

01:26:39.100 some combination of those types of businesses in collusion with government.

01:26:43.860 Correct.

01:26:44.060 So there are really like big headline grabbing cases that I talk about in the book, like,

01:26:49.440 um, you know, the censorship of the Hunter Biden story by Twitter and Facebook, where

01:26:53.980 I was at kind of the eye of the storm when that happened.

01:26:56.820 And I came and spoke with you on the show about it, just as it was unfolding.

01:27:01.060 Um, and the, the debanking of people who are, you know, whose political views aren't acceptable

01:27:07.460 to the liberal left, et cetera, et cetera.

01:27:10.200 So, uh, but there are also more, less visible kinds of this, right?

01:27:13.940 So for example, and this will get us into the weeds and I won't go too far into the weeds,

01:27:18.480 but the use of commercial arbitration in the workplace, just to give one example,

01:27:24.680 arbitration is good.

01:27:25.980 It's a kind of a neutral mediator comes between two merchants of relatively equal bargaining

01:27:31.560 power.

01:27:32.100 They agree not to go to court if they have a dispute, but to privately resolve it.

01:27:36.280 That's fine.

01:27:37.160 That's been around since 1925 with the federal arbitration act.

01:27:40.820 But in recent decades, increasingly workers complaints are corralled into these types of

01:27:46.560 courts, privatized courts where like Ernst and Young or bank of America get to set the

01:27:51.400 rules and you as the worker are far less, you don't have the same bargaining power where

01:27:56.220 you can say no to this or dispute this.

01:27:58.320 And it means that you can't vindicate rights that you otherwise have.

01:28:02.200 I don't know, like the fair labor standards act or whatever, whatever kind of economic

01:28:06.020 rights you might think of become blocked.

01:28:08.260 And so that's the problem.

01:28:10.900 I talk about the kind of hot headline grabbing cases like Amazon, you know, making a lot of

01:28:17.400 money out of the pandemic because they were deemed essential, whereas lots of small businesses

01:28:22.560 weren't.

01:28:23.080 And then oppressing their own workers and their kind of hellish Dickensian warehouses.

01:28:28.040 I talk about those, but much of the book is about these less visible kinds of private

01:28:33.680 coercion where, for example, the Sackler family of notoriety associated with the opioid crisis

01:28:40.480 was able to use the coercive elements of U.S. bankruptcy law to shield their assets from

01:28:47.120 states and from hospitals, from insurers and ordinary Americans who had been harmed by the

01:28:52.080 opioid crisis.

01:28:53.320 So I just suggest that, and here were the kind of the bit that you mentioned about Woodrow

01:28:57.660 Wilson comes in, that conservatives used to actually be more attuned to this problem.

01:29:04.100 In other words, Wilson was not the only one.

01:29:06.540 There was a kind of tradition in the GOP, figures like Teddy Roosevelt, then especially after the

01:29:12.160 New Deal, figures like Eisenhower and Nixon, who recognized that there is such a thing as

01:29:17.240 private tyranny.

01:29:18.060 And the way to take charge of it or to tame it is by greater democratic control and sort

01:29:26.240 of political response to giant market actors that otherwise get to set their own prices,

01:29:31.760 their oligopolies, so that their prices that they set, how they treat their workers and stuff

01:29:36.420 is not that kind of free market, you know, Arcadia, that paradise that still was described by Adam

01:29:43.820 Smith in the late 18th century.

01:29:46.020 The markets are much more complex, much more concentrated, so it requires greater state

01:29:51.900 efforts to protect us from being like debanked by a large bank the way Nigel Farage was in

01:29:58.000 Britain.

01:29:58.200 So here's my question to you, because this is the debate that I think we're having now.

01:30:06.660 Are we going to go back to a constitution that really hasn't been used in 100 years, and are

01:30:13.980 we going to reset back to its factory settings, or are we going to develop something entirely

01:30:20.560 new?

01:30:21.100 And the left has already made their choice.

01:30:22.940 They are, and I think you would agree with me, I think, that we are right now a pretty

01:30:30.980 fascistic kind of country, where the government is in bed with these corporations, and they're

01:30:38.400 doing the bidding for one another, so they can get things done.

01:30:41.600 And if you play ball, then you get money, and you get all kinds of perks.

01:30:45.320 If you don't play ball, you're out of business.

01:30:47.540 Would you agree with that?

01:30:48.300 Well, I actually do want to go back to our constitutional tradition.

01:30:53.520 I would only suggest that our constitutional tradition is more complex than some, I would

01:31:01.080 say, doctrinaire, libertarian, free market types suggest.

01:31:04.720 In other words, our constitution shaped men like Alexander Hamilton, and it was very much

01:31:12.220 seen as a developmentalist state, right?

01:31:16.620 Because Hamilton and John Marshall, very influential Supreme Court justice early on, they were determined

01:31:23.460 that the United States wouldn't become like a backwater for Britain, where all they get 1.00

01:31:28.100 is natural resources here, and they treat us as a captive market for Britain's own industrial

01:31:34.340 development and industrial manufacturing products.

01:31:37.500 So they did all sorts of things, like setting in place a first bank of the United States

01:31:42.880 to ensure a steady supply of credit that was disciplined and wasn't, like, kind of wild.

01:31:48.660 They created, you know, internal improvements and import substitutions and tariffs and so on

01:31:55.240 and so forth.

01:31:55.800 This was all within the founding generation or within living memory of the founding generation.

01:32:01.380 So the idea of a state that kind of takes charge of the economy for the general welfare wasn't

01:32:09.060 wasn't alien to the founding generation.

01:32:11.640 No, but then you have like, you have like the Jacksonians come around because then they 1.00

01:32:15.860 noticed that that bank now had become the second bank of the United States had sort of

01:32:19.320 become a vehicle for the wealthy.

01:32:21.100 So Andrew Jackson waged war against it and sort of said, hey, we need greater political control

01:32:26.820 over these institutions that kind of, you know, can shape the lives of yeoman farmers and

01:32:32.340 workers and so on and so forth.

01:32:34.360 So it's, you know, because the economy and politics can't be so neatly ever separated.

01:32:41.320 They never, the American tradition never thought of the economy as this autonomous zone of perfect

01:32:47.580 freedom and competition.

01:32:48.720 They realize that it's all bound up with what government does or chooses not to do.

01:32:53.840 So I'm just arguing for a more complex reading of the American tradition.

01:32:58.420 So here is the issue.

01:33:00.740 And I think our founders came down to this.

01:33:04.220 Where are the better angels now in Google, Facebook, Apple?

01:33:12.620 Where are the better angels in Washington?

01:33:15.800 Where are the better angels in the media?

01:33:19.300 Where are they?

01:33:20.100 Well, you know, unfortunately, I would just say that the founders could be pretty cynical

01:33:28.560 about human nature.

01:33:30.240 And so they had, you know, as Madison famously wrote, you know, if men were angels, you wouldn't

01:33:35.640 need government.

01:33:36.580 Whereas it is, men are not angels.

01:33:38.480 And so although Lincoln was obviously the better angels guy, he expressed that as a sentiment

01:33:49.120 to call forth, you know, the best of us.

01:33:51.820 And that was an inaugural one.

01:33:53.460 He was somebody that was very, very alone and really an aberration.

01:34:00.120 You know, the man is an animal.

01:34:05.700 He is an animal.

01:34:07.080 And he is driven by many things.

01:34:09.080 At the very bottom, it's food and water and survival.

01:34:12.660 But as he becomes more and more powerful, he is driven by money, power over people, fame.

01:34:20.280 And those things all corrupt.

01:34:23.400 They all corrupt.

01:34:24.280 And our problem is, is that we have everybody, it seems, at the top has been corrupted one

01:34:32.860 way or another.

01:34:34.400 And the reason why it is corrupt, I believe, is because the government can be bought off

01:34:42.580 by giant corporations.

01:34:44.120 And little people don't have the money to buy them off.

01:34:48.180 So there's no representation.

01:34:50.260 The people who are running for office, they don't care what the people do.

01:34:55.340 They'll say whatever they have to to get them to vote for them.

01:34:59.280 But they don't actually care or like those people.

01:35:01.860 They're not representing.

01:35:03.200 They're representing themselves.

01:35:05.560 So everything that is happening is a corruption of us not putting the shackles on a powerful

01:35:13.600 government, but letting, quite honestly, the Woodrow Wilson administrative state, where

01:35:19.580 no one answers for the wrong, just letting it grow.

01:35:26.600 Yep.

01:35:27.180 So first of all, the bit that I quote from Wilson is just to say that during wartime, during

01:35:32.380 World War I, whether you agree in the U.S. entry into World War I or not, he showcased that 0.97

01:35:37.800 you can bring government, labor, management, businesses together to say, how do we build

01:35:45.160 up the whole economy and put it on a war footing and be able to deliver material to Europe and

01:35:50.700 men and so on and so forth, logistics.

01:35:53.180 And that model is now woven through the American tradition.

01:35:59.640 It's and it finds its fullest flowering in the deal.

01:36:02.580 But then, as I said, like Eisenhower went even further on some of this kind of logic

01:36:07.280 of government, labor, workers, and then management and business all coming together to make decisions

01:36:13.320 for the general welfare of the whole, which, again, because of that Hamiltonian streak in

01:36:17.920 the founding is not some obnoxious and weird thing.

01:36:21.300 But the problem is that I think that the conservative movement has, because it's especially against

01:36:29.360 since Goldwater Reagan says, I reject the administrative say, all of that.

01:36:34.040 We don't get take part in it.

01:36:36.200 We don't like actively try to shape it.

01:36:38.580 So it comes down like a it only comes down like a boot on our faces.

01:36:42.060 And that's the frustration is understandable.

01:36:44.360 I mean, I'm not I'm no fan of vaccine mandates and I'm on the record about all of that.

01:36:49.100 But, you know, the bottom line is that already by the 19th century, we had an unbelievably

01:36:56.000 complex economy and you had if you if left to its own devices, you would have very few

01:37:02.360 people concentrating power and wealth to the detriment of the farmer, the debtor, the worker

01:37:07.820 and so on and so forth.

01:37:09.000 And that complexity requires equally complex government because Congress can't like regulate

01:37:16.360 the minutiae of the railroad business.

01:37:18.260 It can just broadly say, well, the railroad should be this and that.

01:37:21.060 But to deal with the railroad business at the granular level, you need you need the

01:37:25.200 complexity of the administrative state, you know, and I think a lot of conservatives who

01:37:29.860 who say, well, this is just all unconstitutional.

01:37:32.680 I don't want any of it.

01:37:33.840 I invite them to take the first flight after the federal aviation administration has been

01:37:39.640 abolished or to, you know, see what their neighborhoods are like once police is abolished.

01:37:45.820 Right.

01:37:45.920 All of this sort of service, nobody's talking, nobody in the conservative side is talking

01:37:50.820 about abolishing police.

01:37:52.060 I mean, I hear about like, you know, FBI abolition.

01:37:55.700 Oh, yeah.

01:37:56.200 I'm full.

01:37:57.000 I'm fully on board for that.

01:37:58.940 Fully on board.

01:37:59.800 Totally.

01:38:00.380 I agree.

01:38:01.100 And so far as the FBI has become this sort of lawless agency that's used to again, go

01:38:06.780 and remember, I'm I'm on the right.

01:38:08.520 I'm I know.

01:38:09.280 I know.

01:38:09.560 No, no, no.

01:38:10.600 Right.

01:38:11.140 So, Rob, I'm not.

01:38:12.140 You know, there are things that the FBI does besides persecuting, you know, Trumpians

01:38:16.700 that is actually pretty valuable.

01:38:17.960 So we're not prepared to give that stuff up.

01:38:20.500 So even like Vivek Ramaswani, who's called for abolition of the FBI, is calling for some

01:38:25.920 other agency that would that would do the things that the FBI is supposed to do. 0.92

01:38:30.040 So the point is that administrative state is to some extent unavoidable.

01:38:34.100 It's a sort of extension of what Congress's will in a complex society and economy.

01:38:39.160 How do we deal with this complexity?

01:38:40.400 Well, you got to delegate it to these experts.

01:38:42.740 But if we don't take part in it on the right, if we don't try to shape it and then we get

01:38:47.520 So, Rob, we are having the same conversation that our founders had with Hamilton.

01:38:52.600 This is the same argument and it will never go away because it's the original argument.

01:38:58.100 Let me just ask you this.

01:38:59.400 It is great.

01:39:00.580 I'm enjoying having you on.

01:39:02.660 I hope you don't feel otherwise.

01:39:04.440 How do we avoid centralizing power to the extent that it causes us to be vulnerable to the bad

01:39:14.240 guy grabbing the reins?

01:39:17.340 Yep.

01:39:17.560 So, I mean, I think that one way that certainly the book, which, as you can tell from what

01:39:23.300 I'm saying, is heavily focused on the economy is we need to promote a high wage manufacturing

01:39:31.680 economy like we had, you know, in the mid century era, in the mid 20th century era.

01:39:36.880 And we were told that, oh, it's inevitable.

01:39:39.300 We all can only either do services or financial industry or these like apps, like porn apps.

01:39:45.880 Right.

01:39:46.340 And we deliberately gave up our own manufacturing.

01:39:48.540 Correct.

01:39:49.040 When you have a high wage economy that's where workers are dignified and they're paid well

01:39:54.660 and they're skilled like we did again, we did in the mid century era.

01:39:58.040 They're not so at the mercy of the of the government either.

01:40:01.340 They're not so powerless.

01:40:03.220 So what problem right now is we have a high, a low wage, high welfare economy.

01:40:09.300 What that means is not that the welfare net is all that generous actually can be kind of

01:40:13.160 miserly because you have to pass all these tests and so forth.

01:40:15.880 But the point is that the typical worker, the working poor or like the bottom half of the

01:40:20.880 country in many ways, in order to make ends meet, they have to rely on a high share of all

01:40:25.560 kinds of welfare that's not come doesn't come from their job.

01:40:28.300 It comes from the taxpayers.

01:40:29.360 And that puts you at the mercy, not just, of course, of the boss, because you're very

01:40:34.060 vulnerable and anything that happens, you get fired, but also puts you at the welfare

01:40:37.920 of at the at the mercy of the welfare administrator and more broadly of the administrative state.

01:40:43.280 So if we I mean, I think conservatives are coming around to this that, hey, we didn't have

01:40:48.040 to ship off manufacturing to like Vietnam and China.

01:40:51.100 But it's not like it's not like, you know, China's brutal labor laws and and horrible government 0.97

01:40:57.340 are a natural competitive advantage.

01:41:00.400 It's just that it's just how they run their country.

01:41:02.640 And we made a choice to ship off our jobs.

01:41:05.020 I think here where we can agree on is the importance of restoring and manufacturing high

01:41:11.420 wage economy.

01:41:12.380 Yes.

01:41:13.880 Limits on immigration help with that, you know, because if there's always a reserve of poorly 0.98

01:41:20.040 paid labor, it's willing to do things for less.

01:41:22.400 And that's, you know, it weakens our our workers.

01:41:25.660 So, Rob, a Rami. 1.00

01:41:29.280 Ami.

01:41:29.980 That's for the love of Pete.

01:41:32.720 So, Rob.

01:41:33.140 Amari, don't worry.

01:41:34.300 Amari.

01:41:35.360 I don't know what's wrong with you.

01:41:36.440 You can't pronounce anybody's name.

01:41:37.560 Don't worry about it.

01:41:38.240 It's a block.

01:41:39.100 Anyway, the book is called Tyranny Eek.

01:41:41.900 And so, Rob, I hope we continue our conversation.

01:41:44.660 I disagree with you pretty wholeheartedly, but I will fight to the death for your right

01:41:51.680 to say it.

01:41:52.240 And I hope we can have more conversations with this attitude on the program with you.

01:41:57.520 Thank you.

01:41:57.940 You're very you're very kind, Glenn.

01:41:59.580 Thank you.

01:42:00.080 Bye bye.

01:42:00.720 All right.

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01:42:56.940 You know how to say it.

01:42:58.020 You said it many times.

01:42:58.700 It's right there.

01:42:59.080 Amari, Amari, Amari.

01:43:00.280 I can say it a million times.

01:43:01.680 Yeah, I know.

01:43:02.140 It is a mental block.

01:43:02.840 Because he's not on.

01:43:03.260 It's a mental block.

01:43:04.240 I hate it.

01:43:05.760 Well, it's an interesting conversation.

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01:43:09.780 It's happening for sure.

01:43:11.060 Whether it is.

01:43:12.100 It is not happening.

01:43:13.180 I don't think it is happening at the grassroots level yet.

01:43:18.880 I think it is happening in the upper echelons.

01:43:22.880 And it is important that you get engaged in this conversation.

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01:45:01.840 We were just talking to Saurabh Amari.

01:45:05.960 He is the author of Tyranny, Inc.

01:45:07.880 and it is, it's, I find it to have ideas in it that I do not agree with at all, and people

01:45:21.900 need to make their own decision.

01:45:24.100 We are either going to create what the left has created, except with our people in it,

01:45:33.100 which is not America.

01:45:35.860 That's just not America.

01:45:37.700 Or we're going to realize that the way we've bastardized this country, for instance, Saurabh

01:45:45.880 was talking about, you know, a central bank, that they, that Hamilton wanted a central

01:45:50.200 bank, and Jefferson saw that it was always, only really benefiting the rich people.

01:45:55.300 Well, yeah, that's what central banks do. 0.89

01:45:59.460 And so we didn't have a central bank.

01:46:01.440 We didn't have a First National Bank of America that was controlled by the government, because

01:46:06.220 that's what happens.

01:46:06.960 And then, under Wilson, we, we establish a new central bank, the Fed.

01:46:15.160 Is anybody here to say that the Fed is working out wonderfully?

01:46:19.180 It's corrupt.

01:46:20.580 It's absolutely corrupt.

01:46:22.240 And it is now only serving the richest of the rich.

01:46:26.360 It doesn't work, because men have a tendency to go crazy with power and money.

01:46:34.180 And that's what you're giving them.

01:46:37.740 I mean, have you ever been to a zoning meeting before, a local zoning meeting?

01:46:41.200 Have you been?

01:46:42.340 I've never been to one.

01:46:43.320 I mean, they sound exciting, but I've seen the results of them.

01:46:46.340 That's for sure.

01:46:46.940 They're awful.

01:46:47.860 They're, they are people who just want to control other people's lives.

01:46:51.820 That's all it is.

01:46:52.980 Not say like an HOA, right?

01:46:55.080 It's not a government institution, but that, like, that's how everyone feels.

01:46:58.060 You're like, wait, what do you want to do with my property?

01:47:00.580 I know.

01:47:00.960 And like, yeah, there are arguments on both sides of this.

01:47:03.400 And we talked about this at the beginning, and that there's also a lot that you guys

01:47:06.560 agree on, particularly when it comes to the problem.

01:47:09.220 I think, you know, it was a little boring for you guys to sit here and recap the problem

01:47:12.580 and agree on it for half an hour.

01:47:14.260 So, you know, I know you focus more on what you don't agree on.

01:47:17.580 But like, this is the, this is the central conversation going on on the right.

01:47:23.120 And it's vital for people to think this stuff out.

01:47:25.700 You know, the, the, we often talk about, okay, you know, for example, defeating Joe Biden

01:47:31.420 in 2024, vitally important for anyone who is on the right.

01:47:35.540 But what direction do you go to from there?

01:47:38.100 And that direction is being formed.

01:47:41.140 I mean, it's changing.

01:47:42.140 It's clearly changing from what it was maybe in the Reagan era.

01:47:45.520 A lot of people look back at that fondly.

01:47:47.720 A lot of people recently have started looking back at that with the big question marks or whether

01:47:51.620 that those solutions can apply to today's problems.

01:47:54.660 Here, here, listen to this.

01:47:56.740 Americans who devote decades of their lives to toil should be able to retire in dignity and safety, period.

01:48:06.560 I mean, I hate to point this out, but in the Hebrew language, there is no word for retire.

01:48:14.120 Now, I believe that, you know, I don't know if I'm ever going to retire,

01:48:19.860 but even if I did retire, it would just be to do something else.

01:48:24.040 You know, there's, you're, you're never stopping working.

01:48:27.860 And that doesn't mean that you have to toil in the same job that you've been in.

01:48:32.320 However, what he says, a stronger labor movement with government backing could demand that large firms

01:48:40.140 restore the older model of retirement based on defined benefits.

01:48:45.120 Wait, the older model, you mean the one before the government took over social security?

01:48:54.040 You mean one where you did get a golden watch?

01:48:58.100 You, you did work at a company, not all companies did it, but you could pay in some of your salary

01:49:05.200 and you could retire and the company would help you with the retirement.

01:49:10.040 That model was destroyed by the federal government, creating yet another agency.

01:49:16.180 And what did they do with our money?

01:49:18.320 They don't have our money.

01:49:19.820 Every dollar that I have paid into social security my whole life, I'm not going to see.

01:49:25.260 I'm not going to see it.

01:49:26.460 They don't have it.

01:49:28.360 Yeah.

01:49:28.520 I mean, I, some of this goes to the idea that like the, the concept of a person going through

01:49:33.580 their life, working really hard at a job that is trying to produce for their family.

01:49:37.680 And at the end of that life, they're able to, let's call it retirement for the sake of

01:49:41.720 this, but like, what is retirement?

01:49:43.380 I mean, as you point out, retirement might be working at your church.

01:49:46.980 It might be, it doesn't mean you just sit around at a golf course necessarily, right?

01:49:50.640 Like it's something that you want to do, finding that thing that you want to do.

01:49:53.120 And that is something that I think we all aspire to.

01:49:55.360 We do.

01:49:55.540 When I look at the economy, I think to myself, man, if I could just have the money that the

01:50:00.400 government has taken from me.

01:50:02.540 Correct.

01:50:02.880 Over these years, I could do that on my own.

01:50:05.140 I wouldn't need government programs, but instead they take them from me.

01:50:09.060 They give me a promise of a future IOU with money that I know they don't have.

01:50:14.660 And then that's supposed to provide me some magical retirement.

01:50:19.080 I don't see that as the path either.

01:50:21.340 So, you know, look, we can, that's the conversation though.

01:50:25.080 So I think he's talking about a more well-designed version of this, but like, I don't, I just

01:50:30.100 have no faith in people in government.

01:50:32.040 No, they, they were talking about a more well-designed healthcare system.

01:50:36.600 Look what happened.

01:50:37.800 You don't do it that way.

01:50:39.680 It never works that way.

01:50:42.940 Page 182.

01:50:44.500 He says, there would still be pockets of individual wealth among investors and managers.

01:50:51.020 We're not talking about full socialism, but owing to the more equitable distribution of

01:50:58.920 the social income, there would simply be a little less money to go around for dangerous

01:51:04.540 speculation and workers' organizations would have a little more money to counterbalance

01:51:09.980 the power of the rich in politics and civil life.

01:51:13.940 That's a little less and a little more, and it can go a long way towards taming today's

01:51:19.260 private tyrannies.

01:51:23.840 It takes two to tango.

01:51:27.480 It's not just the private sector.

01:51:30.200 You cannot grow the state.

01:51:33.460 You will end up the way every other country ends up.

01:51:38.180 The secret to the American sauce was, the smaller the government, the better.

01:51:44.360 And by the way, if they just shut off the FAA tomorrow and all of those federal workers

01:51:53.360 that are in the towers are fired and they can't come back to work, yeah, I'm not going

01:51:58.080 to fly the very next day.

01:52:00.040 You destroy the FAA.

01:52:02.300 But I have absolutely no problem flying in the air the very next day if they've been allowed

01:52:11.440 to hire those trained workers or had the time to train their own.

01:52:16.840 I have no problem with the private sector flying an airplane, flying in safety.

01:52:23.680 You know why?

01:52:24.760 Because the market punishes any airline.

01:52:28.480 If it has no backing from the federal government, it goes down, it goes down, period.

01:52:37.100 There's nobody saving an airline.

01:52:40.000 That's when they learn their lesson quickly.

01:52:44.020 It's interesting because this conversation is, I find conflict in this all the time.

01:52:51.180 I mean, we look at these, the problems, you've talked about it in both Dark Future and The Great

01:52:55.240 Reset, where these companies are trying to go around, they built a system that goes around

01:53:01.820 some of the constitutional protections that we've talked about for many, many years.

01:53:06.460 And the government loves it.

01:53:07.440 The government works with these companies.

01:53:09.420 And so the reaction on the right, I think appropriately has been to say, okay, what can

01:53:15.340 we find that we have in our toolbox to fight back against this?

01:53:21.640 Some of those have been government actions that I think would have made me more uncomfortable

01:53:30.140 five years ago than they do today, or 10 years ago, or 20 years ago.

01:53:34.580 And we hear that from not just, from all over the right right now.

01:53:38.520 Different versions of this, that balance of trying to figure out, as you've talked about

01:53:43.020 in your books as well, how to push back against that is the defining conversation on the right

01:53:51.580 right now.

01:53:52.700 Well, it really, if you're a conservative, you just have to know how to define a conservative.

01:53:57.800 And that is somebody who looks at all of the pieces on the table and say, and they say,

01:54:04.260 this is outdated.

01:54:05.160 This doesn't work.

01:54:06.100 This does.

01:54:06.860 This is worth saving.

01:54:08.700 This is worth saving.

01:54:09.860 And you get rid of all the rest.

01:54:12.420 What progressives want to do is take everything off the table and not look at what doesn't

01:54:19.280 work and maybe double down on those things that don't work.

01:54:23.300 That's just insanity.

01:54:26.920 A conservative needs to look at the things that are working and the things that are not.

01:54:32.440 And in almost every case, I used to be able to say the defense department, but now it's

01:54:40.720 been so politicized that I don't trust the defense department.

01:54:46.060 You have to take them and look at them and say they no longer work.

01:54:50.860 Now, can we build it back to a place to where it's not going to come become corrupt?

01:54:58.940 Yeah.

01:54:59.500 And you have a better chance of doing that than you do starting something entirely new that

01:55:06.580 has a hundred different factors that you'd never know what was the factor that changed

01:55:13.360 it and what factor didn't work.

01:55:18.480 We just have to decide who we are and who we want to be.

01:55:21.600 George Washington said, we did not replace one tyrant to replace him with another.

01:55:29.900 We did not overthrow the king just to have another king.

01:55:36.680 We're different.

01:55:38.260 Back in a minute.

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01:55:43.700 take out a second mortgage on your house.

01:55:45.520 Thanks to severe overregulation and our old friend inflation, ammunition prices are through

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01:55:53.160 And unfortunately, there's no end in sight.

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01:57:12.180 So, mortgage rates may hit 8%.

01:57:17.640 That's good.

01:57:19.000 That's really good.

01:57:20.380 No.

01:57:20.920 This week, by the way.

01:57:21.880 Yeah.

01:57:22.180 Yeah.

01:57:22.660 Up from 7.26% for a 30-year fixed mortgage.

01:57:27.780 It could go up to 8%.

01:57:29.960 And you know why they're saying that they're going to have to raise the interest rates?

01:57:36.180 I don't.

01:57:37.000 Too many people are employed.

01:57:38.080 Oh.

01:57:38.580 Yeah.

01:57:38.920 The job numbers are just too good.

01:57:41.340 Everything's too wonderful?

01:57:42.340 Yeah.

01:57:42.700 Oh, that's by the time for you.

01:57:44.320 Believe it or not.

01:57:45.480 The labor market being as strong as it is now, no one's comfortable raising, saying we're

01:57:52.360 not going to raise the interest rates anymore.

01:57:54.680 So, they need to put you out of work so you stop spending money so they can spend money

01:58:02.600 in Washington.

01:58:03.840 That is honestly what they're trying to do.

01:58:07.500 That's it.

01:58:08.380 I mean, and this is working for us?

01:58:11.860 Really?

01:58:12.500 Is it?

01:58:14.620 No, thank you.

01:58:17.400 Hmm.

01:58:17.840 I don't know where we go from here, honestly.

01:58:24.260 You get to that point, at the end of the day, every day, and you get to that point where

01:58:28.440 you're just like, where do we go from here?

01:58:30.920 You know, Glenn, it's going to be really interesting to watch this all play out.

01:58:33.660 It is, isn't it?

01:58:34.420 Isn't it?

01:58:34.880 It is.

01:58:35.180 It's going to be a really fascinating time to just kind of watch all this happen.

01:58:38.140 Yeah.

01:58:38.380 And just sit here and just go, wow, who would have seen that coming?

01:58:43.360 Oh, we did, but we probably shouldn't say anything about it now.

01:58:47.860 Two more home insurers exit California because there's new rules put in place and new things,

01:58:56.980 new rules about fires in California.

01:59:00.060 And the insurers are like, you know, I don't think we can make any money in California.

01:59:06.000 Nope, not going to do it.

01:59:07.500 So two more insurers, which is going to mean that the United States is going to have to

01:59:12.760 insure all of those houses.

01:59:14.460 You know, they do that on the wetlands and, you know, near the beaches and everything else.

01:59:19.120 Why?

01:59:19.540 Why is the average American paying for the insurance on somebody's house that lives right on the

01:59:27.200 water?

01:59:28.080 Why?

01:59:28.480 I don't know the answer to that.

01:59:32.220 I think, you know, well, the stated answer would be, well, look, if the market did, it

01:59:37.020 would be too expensive.

01:59:38.920 And so we, the government have to do it.

01:59:40.600 Well, you know, you don't have to subsidize rich people's houses on the water.

01:59:44.280 That's not something you have to do.

01:59:45.540 Yeah.

01:59:45.640 And some people aren't rich.

01:59:46.860 It might be their home, you know, they've had their home forever there.

01:59:50.560 Smaller percentage than I would argue.

01:59:52.940 But yes, it's not just an anti-rich person argument.

01:59:56.600 Correct.

01:59:57.220 You know, I mean, but I do think that there is a, there isn't really a great argument for

02:00:03.060 the United States government to say, hey, especially from the left, who are constantly

02:00:07.620 the people pushing it and also saying global warming is going to wipe out all these houses

02:00:11.200 next week.

02:00:11.780 It's like, well, how does that work?

02:00:14.120 Why don't you just stop paying insurance for people whose houses are going to be underwater?

02:00:17.660 Certainly disincentivize people by building new ones.

02:00:20.780 And look, I think most people who do it would say, I will, I will pay the extra insurance

02:00:26.920 and it will be more expensive.

02:00:28.700 And that's part of the cost of living.

02:00:30.080 And maybe fewer people would choose to do that because of those reasons.

02:00:32.940 And I don't know.

02:00:34.300 That's what I thought the left wanted.

02:00:35.660 Right.

02:00:36.340 Can I ask you a question?

02:00:37.420 How do you run a hotel in America now?

02:00:41.080 I don't understand.

02:00:43.320 Maine is now forcing hotels to house immigrants.

02:00:47.660 Um, how do you, uh, how do you make money with that?

02:00:53.780 I mean, you know, they're doing in New York, they're doing some really nice hotels.

02:00:59.040 Uh, well, I'm not staying at a hotel that is filled with illegal aliens. 1.00

02:01:04.500 I mean, call me a hater.

02:01:05.780 They don't stay in your bed, Glenn.

02:01:07.120 I mean, they are in separate rooms, I think.

02:01:09.100 Yeah.

02:01:09.680 Yeah.

02:01:10.520 No, uh, no, no, not going to.

02:01:12.600 What if they're just on your floor?

02:01:13.940 Like you get out in the middle of the night, you might step on, on somebody, but no, no,

02:01:17.800 no.

02:01:18.600 And if I'm a hotel and I'm told by the government that I have to do that, that's kind of like

02:01:23.700 quartering soldiers, third amendment, kind of, uh, there, I'm just told that I have

02:01:31.180 to do this now.

02:01:32.760 Um, no, that's an interesting, you thought it seemed like you really thought about that.

02:01:38.860 I did, I did, I, I mean, here's the whole thought process.

02:01:43.020 Mmm.

02:01:43.780 No.

02:01:44.320 Oh, so you said the whole thought process out loud.

02:01:46.060 Out loud.

02:01:46.500 That first time.

02:01:47.040 That was it.

02:01:47.480 Wow, okay.

02:01:47.860 Hey, you have a hotel, it's a pretty nice one.

02:01:50.380 Uh, you're going to have to house all these people and the government will pay you what

02:01:54.280 we can.

02:01:55.220 Mmm.

02:01:55.880 No.

02:01:57.060 No.

02:01:58.580 How, how, how does that work?

02:02:00.520 How does that work in America?

02:02:02.400 Because I, I can't figure that one out.

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The Glenn Beck Program - August 17, 2023

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