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00:05:15.100 Welcome.

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00:05:19.500 We have some amazing updates.

00:05:21.600 Should we start with that?

00:05:23.020 Let's start with the update on the woman up in Canada,

00:05:26.800 who we've been talking about for the last few days.

00:05:29.180 I'm telling you, this audience is the greatest audience in the world.

00:05:35.240 You have called everybody and alerted everybody,

00:05:39.600 and the administration has gotten involved.

00:05:43.640 Dr. Oz called yesterday, and he was like,

00:05:46.880 how can I help?

00:05:48.220 And it's what's so funny is I said,

00:05:51.480 we need to talk to this doctor in Tampa.

00:05:54.100 What I didn't know is this doctor in Tampa is a big fan of the show,

00:05:59.720 and he was trying to call us for two days and couldn't get a hold of us.

00:06:03.920 And so when Oz called him, he's like, yes, give me his number.

00:06:06.620 I'm ready.

00:06:07.120 I want to help.

00:06:08.020 So this is the guy that actually invented the procedure

00:06:15.000 that she apparently needs down in Tampa General. 0.96

00:06:20.760 He has his whole hospital.

00:06:22.180 He's an amazing guy.

00:06:24.500 And so I'm talking to him yesterday, and he's like, don't worry.

00:06:28.580 Puts me in touch with the hospital.

00:06:30.060 All of the executives at the hospital, they're like, don't worry.

00:06:33.260 And I'm like, look, if you can give us a discount,

00:06:35.900 that would be great.

00:06:36.920 I said, I don't know what this is going to cost.

00:06:38.900 And they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:06:40.320 Money's not going to be a problem.

00:06:41.200 Don't worry about it.

00:06:41.840 Let's take care of this.

00:06:43.120 And it was amazing.

00:06:44.060 All the way, all we want to do is give this woman an alternative to death. 1.00

00:06:54.380 The Canadian health care system won't help her. 1.00

00:06:58.360 They've blocked her out, and there's nothing they can do. 0.99

00:07:01.460 And so they recommend that she kill herself. 1.00

00:07:05.340 And it's not like there's nothing they can do. 0.99

00:07:07.660 They're swamped.

00:07:09.160 And I don't want to badmouth Canadians, and I don't want to badmouth doctors in Canada.

00:07:14.680 The doctors in Canada are no different than the doctors here.

00:07:18.060 They got in because they wanted to help people.

00:07:21.420 And how many times have you talked to your doctor, and your doctor's like,

00:07:24.600 oh, jeez, that's a bureaucratic nightmare with the insurance companies and everything else.

00:07:29.040 Imagine it's not just the insurance companies.

00:07:30.940 It's the government involved.

00:07:33.280 So the bureaucracy is crazy.

00:07:35.920 Then on top of it, what many people claim was a great health care system when it was Canada,

00:07:43.080 just like in Sweden, you know, when you have a small population and everybody kind of thinks

00:07:47.760 alike, you can do things like that.

00:07:49.680 But once it becomes diverse, once it becomes sprawling, you can't afford to do it, and it doesn't work.

00:07:57.680 So Canada had what they claim was a great health care system.

00:08:01.240 I know Canadians, they always stand by it.

00:08:03.220 They're not anymore.

00:08:04.440 Why?

00:08:05.300 They're not standing by it because the system is being overwhelmed with illegals 1.00

00:08:11.120 and people coming from all different parts of the world.

00:08:14.880 And so there's not enough doctors and not enough medicine.

00:08:17.780 And so what happens?

00:08:19.220 Well, exactly what we said would happen in 2009 when we were debating Obamacare.

00:08:24.900 I said, warning, there is this whole system put inside of all of Obamacare,

00:08:31.660 and it's called the complete live system.

00:08:34.020 And if there's a shortage ever, here's how we ration care.

00:08:38.780 So people didn't like it that, you know, if you had money, you could get care.

00:08:43.340 But I said, well, somebody's going to decide.

00:08:47.720 And if it's not who has the money, it's going to be something else, and it'll be the government.

00:08:54.020 And then it's just a faceless bureaucracy that you can't stop and you can't get out of.

00:08:59.220 Well, that's what's happening in Canada.

00:09:00.640 And so a few years ago, they started what's called MAID, Medical Assistance in Dying.

00:09:06.400 It's assisted suicide.

00:09:10.420 But it has now become, I thought it was the third, it is now the fifth largest killer of Canadians.

00:09:16.480 You know, when you say, when the world says we have an epidemic of guns in America,

00:09:21.800 I think it was, what was it, 13 of every 100,000 Americans are killed by a gun,

00:09:26.980 13 out of every 100,000 every year.

00:09:29.640 And the world says that's an epidemic.

00:09:32.020 Well, MAID kills 37 people out of every 100,000. 0.68

00:09:36.820 37, not 13, 37 in Canada.

00:09:40.860 It's horrible.

00:09:42.360 And it's leaving people hopeless and trapped.

00:09:45.020 So all we wanted to do is give this woman some hope.

00:09:49.320 She is just this beautiful, beautiful woman.

00:09:52.200 I mean, I don't know if you've seen the pictures of her before the disease hit her.

00:09:56.000 She was, she was just stunning.

00:09:58.480 She still is.

00:09:59.380 But you can see the ravage of whatever it is that's going on in her body.

00:10:04.900 And, and she's feels like she doesn't have a reason to live and she has no hope.

00:10:11.020 And because of you, because of this audience, let me just say this.

00:10:15.420 Best doctors on this particular issue in the world are now on it.

00:10:21.940 The best hospital in the world for this condition is now on it.

00:10:25.980 They've, I don't know anything about her medical.

00:10:29.200 I don't want to know anything about her medical situation.

00:10:31.700 That's between her and her doctors. 1.00

00:10:32.960 But, um, I was told also that they are making sure that everything is right.

00:10:38.140 They're reaching out to other specialists and a chronologist, the best in the country, um, to get their opinion on it.

00:10:45.200 So she's going to have the best care America can, uh, can provide just out of the generosity of all these guys hearts.

00:10:53.620 Okay.

00:10:54.620 Um, and what she decides she will do, but it's all taken care of for her.

00:10:59.600 And it's all because of you.

00:11:01.200 And you know, it's amazing.

00:11:02.360 We didn't have to raise a dime for this.

00:11:05.960 Everybody's doing it so far.

00:11:07.320 Everybody's doing it because they want to, it might cost them personally some money, but they've all volunteered and go, I'll take care of that.

00:11:12.460 I'll take care of that.

00:11:13.200 I'll take care of that.

00:11:14.420 And that is amazing.

00:11:15.880 That is absolutely amazing.

00:11:17.600 And so thank you.

00:11:19.180 Thank you.

00:11:19.640 Thank you.

00:11:20.340 I don't think this is going to be like a, you know, a, uh, you know, a cop show where, you know, it, you, you have the crime, the police figured out, they arrest, then they go to trial and then you show them in prison at the end.

00:11:33.360 I think this is a longer, a longer story, um, that we're going to be following for a while, but, um, thank you God.

00:11:44.020 Thank you.

00:11:45.000 It's amazing.

00:11:45.920 What's, what's happening.

00:11:47.400 Did I miss anything on that, Stu?

00:11:49.640 I don't think so.

00:11:50.640 I mean, I think we were talking a little bit about this before and you mentioned something, um, that I thought is true and seemingly unfortunate from our perspective and I'm sure from hers too, but like, this isn't necessarily this, like neatly, uh, wrapped up in a bow television episode that, you know, last 30 minutes and it's over.

00:12:11.860 And we all got the nice resolution at the end.

00:12:13.460 Like she's got a long road ahead of her, no matter what happens here.

00:12:16.640 And there's a lot of stuff.

00:12:17.760 Hopefully it, it'll still be her choice, but it doesn't end January 7th in death.

00:12:22.900 And that's what we want to, we just want her to live a hundred percent live. 0.78

00:12:27.000 Yeah.

00:12:27.360 I, you know, and she deserves, of course, the medical privacy that we all deserve, right?

00:12:31.520 Like when we're going through these things, she's going to have, you know, we're not going to get like, it's not going to be like, Hey, we've got 12 new things to tweet to you every day.

00:12:38.220 It's going to be something that's going to be, uh, you know, you know, different than that.

00:12:43.120 But also there's a chance here now, right?

00:12:46.040 Like there was no chance.

00:12:47.240 This, this woman had, you know, asked for death. 0.99

00:12:50.740 That's, that's how dire it was.

00:12:53.080 And because of this audience, the administration, Dr. Norman and many others working behind the scenes, like it changed that entire narrative.

00:13:00.040 And that's just wonderful.

00:13:01.200 Dr. Norman told me, uh, yesterday when I was talking to him, he's like, Glenn, this is not just about her.

00:13:07.960 He said 55% of women have this undiagnosed and it's a killer.

00:13:12.960 He's like, it, it, it, it will just change your life.

00:13:16.320 Just destroy your life.

00:13:18.120 55% of women have it.

00:13:19.820 And most times it goes undiagnosed.

00:13:22.200 I, we're going to have him on maybe next week to talk about what it is.

00:13:25.120 Cause I, I've never even heard of it.

00:13:26.580 Have you heard of it now?

00:13:27.560 No, no, no.

00:13:28.400 I don't even, I gotta be honest.

00:13:30.080 I didn't even know the body part existed.

00:13:31.840 I, I, that's where I was.

00:13:33.780 I'd heard of a thyroid, but I'm not really sure what it does.

00:13:36.360 I don't know what parathyroid is.

00:13:38.580 Is it like an extraterrestrial thyroid?

00:13:42.720 Is it like the appendix?

00:13:44.000 Do we need it?

00:13:44.940 Really?

00:13:45.460 I don't know.

00:13:46.900 Apparently we do.

00:13:47.780 Apparently we do.

00:13:48.460 So, uh, that's how, you know, I know, look, I'm a doctor, so I don't want to get too technical, but apparently we need it.

00:13:54.120 Uh, okay.

00:13:55.040 So, okay.

00:13:55.760 Dr. Beck, yeah.

00:13:56.560 Thank you for that.

00:13:57.400 Yes.

00:13:57.840 Yes.

00:13:58.200 You're welcome.

00:13:58.780 You're welcome.

00:13:59.220 Um, so what else is, uh, on let's, let's talk a little bit about Venezuela.

00:14:04.960 They're going to get to your phone calls, 888-727-BECK.

00:14:08.660 Um, but, uh, there's a couple of things that are happening in Venezuela.

00:14:14.300 We told you yesterday that, uh, they were targeting this, uh, this, this oil tanker.

00:14:22.660 It has been sanctioned under the Biden administration.

00:14:25.680 They were running, uh, Venezuelan oil to China.

00:14:30.120 It looks like Iran, it looks like Iran is also involved.

00:14:32.580 And we told you yesterday, this is really all about China and Iran and Russia and kicking them out of this hemisphere. 1.00

00:14:38.380 Uh, and it's, it's, it's going to get dicey.

00:14:40.900 Uh, Stu, was it you that was telling me this morning that somebody on ABC, who told me this, this morning, that ABC had a story?

00:14:47.720 Yeah, go ahead.

00:14:48.180 Yeah, it was, it was, they, it was a colonel, a former colonel who, uh, was analyzing the Venezuela situation.

00:14:54.900 And he said, like, this is a real buildup.

00:14:58.760 This is not a, you know, like an empty threat.

00:15:02.120 And it is, um, it is, I think the way he phrased it was, I don't see how he unwinds this.

00:15:09.640 Like, meaning that like the road leads to action of some sort, not, you know, maybe he, you know, obviously Maduro steps down.

00:15:16.820 That's one way that it maybe doesn't.

00:15:18.360 But, uh, he said he didn't see any way that, that this was going to be unwound, like neatly, which is an interesting, yeah, by Trump.

00:15:25.940 Because I mean, you're basically saying that the road, how he unwinds, here's how he unwinds things.

00:15:32.760 Uh, yeah, not going to do that.

00:15:36.260 Um, and I want to just point out the greatest president of all time was saying that I'm going to do that.

00:15:42.780 And now I'm saying I'm going to do the opposite.

00:15:44.440 And, uh, who would have seen it coming?

00:15:46.360 Uh, it's just because I'm a genius.

00:15:48.220 I mean, he doesn't, he has, he has, when you talk about Putin, he goes down a road.

00:15:54.700 And if he's going down that road, then he's got a safe face.

00:15:57.960 Donald Trump, he's a negotiator.

00:16:00.260 I don't think he cares about that.

00:16:01.960 I really don't.

00:16:02.600 He's like, well, tried that didn't work.

00:16:05.000 Oh, well, I'm going to do this because that's what I do.

00:16:07.740 You know what I mean?

00:16:08.240 Yeah, it is oddly kind of like a superpower, right?

00:16:10.920 He, he doesn't have embarrassment or shame over that stuff.

00:16:14.580 Like he will say stuff that it, you know, going far, hardcore down one road.

00:16:19.700 And then the next day he'll be the opposite.

00:16:22.060 And that is, look, sometimes it can be a little, uh, make people nervous.

00:16:26.960 And, uh, I think that is his intent a lot of the times I think he likes, you know, kind

00:16:32.620 of people keeping people on edge in a negotiation and he doesn't have that, like, I don't know

00:16:37.460 what the right word is, it's not shame, right?

00:16:39.880 But it's one of those things that like we've seen with, uh, former presidents that are, you

00:16:45.500 know, going down the road of war and they can't back themselves out of it because they

00:16:52.640 have, they would be embarrassed.

00:16:54.520 They've gone down this road.

00:16:55.600 They've said all these things they've driven, you know, put red lines on certain activities.

00:17:01.060 And once you have that red line down, you can't reverse yourself.

00:17:04.480 He doesn't care about that stuff.

00:17:06.100 It doesn't seem, he just, he'll, he'll, if he doesn't, if in that moment, he thinks it's

00:17:09.640 the right thing to do, he'll do it.

00:17:10.840 And if he needs to change it and he thinks it's going to serve a better outcome, he'll

00:17:13.700 do that.

00:17:14.900 I've always said, don't bluff, don't bluff.

00:17:18.820 And I don't think he does bluff.

00:17:21.460 He'll get to a certain point and he'll say, you know, we're going to vaporize.

00:17:25.600 The little man in North Korea, that, that wasn't serious.

00:17:30.400 He wasn't serious about that.

00:17:31.640 He, that's him just playing a hard ball game, uh, you know, and, and not serious about that.

00:17:37.220 Um, but you don't ever bluff.

00:17:39.800 And I don't think he does bluff.

00:17:41.740 What he does is he uses it as he, he has a specific outcome that he wants and he'll use

00:17:48.560 every tactic that he has, uh, and he'll go all the way down that path until it shows

00:17:54.380 there's no fruit to be gained here.

00:17:56.380 Okay.

00:17:56.980 And he'll switch and he'll go to another tactic and he'll go all the way down that path.

00:18:00.840 In the end, if he's tried all other paths, he would go back and say, you know, there's

00:18:05.700 nothing else we can do. 0.79

00:18:07.620 We've got to go in and bomb Iran. 1.00

00:18:10.060 You know what I mean? 0.93

00:18:11.100 But he'll use everything else all the way, but he's not ashamed to say, I'm not going

00:18:16.020 to do that.

00:18:16.520 I've changed my mind.

00:18:17.060 We're going to try this.

00:18:18.360 But once that thing is on the table, it is on the table.

00:18:22.140 If nothing else works, then he'll just come to the American people and go, I tried everything 0.98

00:18:26.700 else.

00:18:27.380 Nothing else works.

00:18:28.080 I got to do that.

00:18:29.140 Yeah.

00:18:29.280 I, I, it's interesting to hear the military perspective on that from, from a higher ranking

00:18:34.280 officer, because I, I kind of see it kind of similar and you're right.

00:18:39.120 I don't think Donald Trump is not bluffing.

00:18:41.020 I think what he is doing is he's, I think he's providing the Maduro regime, a couple of

00:18:46.360 options and basically saying, these are your options.

00:18:49.040 The ball is down your, your court.

00:18:50.900 Um, the two options I see are just based off of the entire, you know, the entire military

00:18:56.040 situation that is now gathered in the Caribbean.

00:18:57.700 I think that one, go to Belarus.

00:19:02.100 What?

00:19:02.660 Yeah.

00:19:03.120 Right.

00:19:03.400 That's when, and then they've offered that like, this is your out.

00:19:06.040 Yeah.

00:19:06.240 So this door is wide open for you if you want it.

00:19:09.300 Go.

00:19:09.600 Uh, the, the, the other option is, um, we've signaled that we are willing to seize, uh,

00:19:15.660 illegal oil tankers right off your coast.

00:19:18.060 For one, they're not being able to, they can't function as a country without some kind of

00:19:23.060 sanction evasion.

00:19:24.560 And that's how they're doing it.

00:19:25.700 They're, they're evading sanctions.

00:19:26.900 So we have kind of set up this, I don't know, pseudo blockade if we need to use it.

00:19:32.480 Yeah.

00:19:32.680 And they're signaling, we're not going to let these ships go in and out.

00:19:35.640 There's your first option.

00:19:36.940 Second option is kind of the Panama Noriega option.

00:19:41.000 They're signaling and the precedent is so insane.

00:19:43.800 For one, Noriega had the almost exact same indictment on him back in the late eighties.

00:19:49.420 It was drug runner, drug running, cocaine, money laundering, all these different things,

00:19:53.920 Rico, all this stuff.

00:19:55.120 And then we built a massive presence, just like we've done now, military presence.

00:19:59.580 And then we gave Noriega the option.

00:20:01.580 Well, he ended up killing the United States Marine.

00:20:04.000 And then that gave us the precedent to invade.

00:20:06.160 Noriega was out.

00:20:08.000 Maduro knows this.

00:20:09.320 He knows that's the precedent.

00:20:10.360 He does not want to go there.

00:20:11.420 So his options are threaten the military, get an invasion, or a threatened blockade,

00:20:16.920 or I could just go to Belarus.

00:20:19.380 Yeah.

00:20:20.280 I don't know what he's going to do, but Belarus seems like a really good option. 1.00

00:20:24.140 I mean, that would be the option I would take.

00:20:25.420 He's got more money than God now.

00:20:27.180 What else do you need?

00:20:27.960 Just like Florida.

00:20:29.080 Sunny Belarus. 0.99

00:20:29.900 Right.

00:20:30.380 Sunny Belarus. 0.99

00:20:31.340 All right.

00:20:32.140 Back in just a second.

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00:21:42.800 Ten seconds and back to the show.

00:21:43.980 I got to take Mark in Tennessee on line eight.

00:21:57.400 Hello, Mark.

00:21:58.120 How are you?

00:22:00.140 And I'm doing great.

00:22:01.340 I've been doing great.

00:22:02.500 I've been listening to you since your double shift days at 970 WFLA in Tampa.

00:22:06.660 Oh, my God.

00:22:07.600 That's awesome.

00:22:08.680 Yeah, thank you.

00:22:09.220 Way back in the day.

00:22:10.180 Hey, I had a question because you are absolutely a leader, a leader of communication.

00:22:16.320 You've got a company, you know, and the thing about leadership is they're great leading people

00:22:20.940 one-on-one.

00:22:21.580 They're great leading at team leadership, but most leaders forget about themselves, and

00:22:26.480 I'm just wondering, with all of the stuff you investigate, look at, do, all the information

00:22:31.520 you get, how do you reset your mindset and not go absolutely crazy with all the stuff you

00:22:37.320 look into?

00:22:37.880 What makes you assume he's done that?

00:22:40.580 That's assuming that I haven't gone crazy.

00:22:44.420 I will tell you, my wife, God, my faith plays a huge role.

00:22:50.800 You know, Charlie Kirk's book, it really saved my life.

00:22:53.320 I mean, not the book, but what he's preaching in the book is the Sabbath.

00:22:58.220 I work with really good people.

00:23:00.240 I have the greatest audience ever.

00:23:02.340 I mean, I love this audience.

00:23:03.980 Deeply, deeply love this audience.

00:23:05.480 I know these, I know you, even though we've never met, I feel like I know you.

00:23:09.540 I don't know how this works, but it's like that.

00:23:12.880 And that keeps me going.

00:23:14.720 And, you know, this thing with, you know, the, the, the help up in, in Canada, this,

00:23:20.260 what we've done this week is, I mean, we walked away, all of us went, I can't believe how

00:23:24.880 great this is.

00:23:25.640 I got in this morning and I said to the team, we have to look into the, what is it?

00:23:31.480 The screw worm?

00:23:32.800 What is it?

00:23:33.040 Screw worm. 0.99

00:23:33.560 Yeah.

00:23:33.780 Yeah.

00:23:34.260 The, the screw, the new screw worm fly, the, you know, new world screw worm fly.

00:23:41.060 And they're like, what?

00:23:41.780 And I'm like, yeah, it's really bad.

00:23:44.580 I was like, yeah, your time to, your time to enjoy the really happy thing we did yesterday

00:23:50.040 is over.

00:23:50.880 Look into this.

00:23:51.840 It's a little difficult perspective, great family, great wife and God.

00:23:56.260 This is Glenn Beck.

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00:24:01.300 Everybody's like, oh God, Glenn, what?

00:24:02.860 And they all started Googling.

00:24:04.040 Oh my gosh.

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00:25:36.240 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:25:38.160 It's open phones today.

00:25:39.920 I want to talk to you about whatever it is you want to discuss.

00:25:42.720 Let me go to Alex in New York.

00:25:44.520 Hello, Alex.

00:25:45.080 Alex, are you there?

00:25:50.240 Hi, Glenn.

00:25:51.060 Yes, I am.

00:25:51.760 Hi.

00:25:53.040 Hi.

00:25:53.600 Go ahead.

00:25:55.060 Sure.

00:25:55.540 So I'm calling in from upstate New York where we definitely have a situation on our hands

00:26:00.680 here with the solar farms that our governor is pushing very, very hard.

00:26:06.620 They are absolutely using it as a land grab to take our best farmland.

00:26:13.480 And in the case of near my farm here, they're trying to put in a solar farm on a protected

00:26:18.600 grassland habitat that New York State already designated as an important habitat, except when

00:26:26.120 big solar comes to town.

00:26:27.500 And we're currently fighting that up here.

00:26:29.840 Um, I meet with a coalition of people across the state, really amazing people who are battling

00:26:35.260 this, um, in every village in upstate New York right now.

00:26:38.220 And we definitely have a situation on our hands.

00:26:40.600 I call it a runaway train.

00:26:42.260 Yeah, just keep fighting.

00:26:45.080 I don't know how you fight it in New York, but just keep fighting.

00:26:47.720 Um, because there are, there are communities around the country that are fighting things

00:26:52.160 like this that are winning.

00:26:54.080 Um, I don't, I don't know about New York, but, uh, we've got to have our farmland and

00:26:59.200 it kills me.

00:27:00.320 You know, I talked about this the other day.

00:27:01.840 It absolutely kills me that we, the people could not have nuclear energy.

00:27:06.900 No way we can have a nuclear energy, but the minute big tech needs nuclear energy. 0.99

00:27:11.300 Oh, we're going to, yeah, they can build them, build as many as you want.

00:27:14.640 I mean, it's so disgusting.

00:27:16.840 Uh, I want to talk to you about, uh, energy on something else.

00:27:19.880 The, the, the solar thing does not work.

00:27:21.600 And as a man who has spent maybe, maybe a million, million and a half dollars on, on,

00:27:30.840 uh, alternative energy for ranch I have up in the mountains that has no power to it.

00:27:37.580 Uh, and over 10 or 12 year period, I have just poured money into it and it's a nightmare.

00:27:44.860 It does not work.

00:27:47.640 It doesn't work.

00:27:49.260 You can't, you can't run anything of any significance.

00:27:54.080 Um, you know, running my studio, just my studio alone has been an absolute nightmare in there.

00:28:01.900 It's not, it doesn't work.

00:28:03.140 Okay.

00:28:03.760 Solar and wind.

00:28:04.860 It might be good for a little add on, you know, if you live in Phoenix, you know, or I

00:28:10.100 don't know on the sun, but it doesn't work.

00:28:13.460 Um, at least to the scale that we need.

00:28:16.420 Um, but just the other day, do we happen to have the clip from the prediction show where

00:28:22.080 I made a prediction, uh, of what was coming next year on energy.

00:28:28.080 Can we play that please?

00:28:31.820 I think in 2026, 2025 was the year, as I said, that we started really understanding AI and

00:28:39.260 what is coming to some degree.

00:28:40.800 And we understood, Oh, energy is going to be a problem.

00:28:45.360 I think 2026 is going to be the first year that we see things like Texas having rolling

00:28:52.060 brownouts for a week at a time.

00:28:54.960 I think you're going to start to see the, the strain on the grid, um, by the end of, of

00:29:01.860 next year in ways that you would never have expected in the United States.

00:29:05.940 It's just growing exponentially.

00:29:07.660 Um, okay.

00:29:09.220 I think I said that on Wednesday show, we had a prediction show of what, what the biggest

00:29:14.640 stories and what are the predictions.

00:29:16.780 And when I said that, I'm like, you know, at the end of next year, let me give you this

00:29:20.800 from the associated press today, the amount of air cuts, large load interconnection requests

00:29:27.640 ballooned to more than three, 230 gigawatts this year.

00:29:32.240 Um, a massive increase now last year, December, 2026.

00:29:37.660 2024 air caught needed 63 gigawatts a year later, this December, the load that is required

00:29:47.580 is 230 gigawatts.

00:29:50.280 That's a lot more than they needed to go back to the future.

00:29:57.240 Uh, this you're going to see the grids are not built for this more than 70% of the large

00:30:05.940 loads are for the data center.

00:30:08.480 The data centers are just beginning to be built.

00:30:12.060 We don't have the energy.

00:30:15.140 And I'm telling you, this is going to be the Achilles heel of this administration.

00:30:20.800 Um, and believe me, it will only be worse with a democratic administration.

00:30:25.700 This is going to be the Achilles heel because we can't build these power plants fast enough.

00:30:33.040 And, and while Donald Trump is fast tracking these nuclear power plants, it's not fast enough

00:30:40.500 because as we build these data centers, what's going to happen is your energy.

00:30:46.880 You're going to start to have rolling brownouts also because of these data centers, you're

00:30:51.640 also going to see the unemployment go up.

00:30:54.340 If you start to have high unemployment, high prices and rolling brownouts to where you're

00:31:02.540 having a hard time with electricity yourself.

00:31:04.720 But the data centers for the Silicon Valley, uh, companies, they're getting your power.

00:31:11.420 I'm telling you the Bubba effect is just the beginning.

00:31:15.980 This will be an absolute nightmare for all politicians.

00:31:22.160 I'm so pissed off.

00:31:23.720 What?

00:31:24.460 This was, I was on this show.

00:31:26.460 They were like, Hey, you want to be on a prediction show?

00:31:29.500 You'll be squaring off against the guy that predicted Osama bin Laden, the financial crisis, 0.86

00:31:33.680 good luck, buddy.

00:31:36.180 And I'm like, I just knew it.

00:31:37.840 I didn't know it was going to happen that quick, but like two days later, two days later

00:31:41.520 and it comes, I mean, I mean, Texas is look, Texas is in trouble.

00:31:46.900 Um, uh, you know, and as goes Texas, so goes America.

00:31:50.940 So goes America.

00:31:52.220 So goes the world.

00:31:53.820 Texas has got to get serious about, and, and I know they are to some degree, but the

00:32:01.720 president has got to get rid of all of these restrictions and Texas has to get all of these

00:32:09.660 and we have to concentrate on electricity and not just electricity for the average homes,

00:32:17.320 uh, or I mean for these data centers, but for the average homes, the grids are already

00:32:22.840 under strain.

00:32:23.900 They're, they're not, you know, the problem is if they start taking this electricity out

00:32:30.080 of, off of the grid, the old grid, you can't pour more electricity into that grid.

00:32:38.160 The grids are already at the breaking point.

00:32:40.920 They're old, they're brittle.

00:32:42.640 They're, they're not prepared for what we have to do.

00:32:45.380 That's why they have to build these nuclear power plants at the, uh, server farms because 0.96

00:32:52.600 they, they cannot go on to the system because the system can't handle that much power.

00:32:58.600 We are in real trouble and everybody is still talking about solar power and everything else. 0.96

00:33:03.540 You're out of your fricking minds.

00:33:07.100 Nobody has any ideas to, I'm sorry. 0.99

00:33:09.980 Stu's like, watch your language, Mr.

00:33:11.980 We got, I'm sorry.

00:33:12.660 That F you hit really hard at the beginning.

00:33:14.760 I was wondering what road we were going down.

00:33:17.540 I mean, you're, you're out of your mind.

00:33:19.420 People have got to wake up to between now and 2028.

00:33:26.400 I can't emphasize this enough.

00:33:28.440 If you've listened to me for a long time and you heard me say, I'm telling you, we're going

00:33:34.400 to have a financial meltdown and it is going to be the worst, you know, it's going to,

00:33:40.320 it's going to, you know, you'll lose your 401k.

00:33:44.200 You'll lose everything.

00:33:45.280 Get your money out of the system.

00:33:47.000 I was saying that in 2006, 2007, and no one was listening.

00:33:51.280 Thank God.

00:33:52.200 A lot of the listeners were listening and they saved their money and got it out in time.

00:33:56.840 I'm telling you now with just as much surety in this, the world is going to change in such

00:34:06.880 profound ways, uh, between now and 2028 in ways you cannot even imagine at this point that

00:34:17.560 you have to be, forget your money, forget everything else.

00:34:20.580 You have to be spiritually in tune.

00:34:23.440 You have to be rock solid in who you are, what it means to be human, what it means to

00:34:30.100 be alive, what's important, what's not important.

00:34:34.400 Um, you can't, you, and this is so hard.

00:34:37.700 I mean, I'm a guy who's in this business.

00:34:39.780 I'm telling you, this is why in those last week I've spent more time on that woman in, 1.00

00:34:46.860 in Canada than I have on really important things that are happening politically because

00:34:53.200 the most important thing we can do is realign ourselves with truth, universal truth.

00:35:02.800 Humanity must be preserved.

00:35:09.160 Your life is worth saving.

00:35:12.380 Your life is worth living.

00:35:15.060 Don't go down the road of madness with the rest of society because right now these gigantic

00:35:22.680 corporations, uh, you know, in Silicon Valley, they are promising us the only way out.

00:35:30.160 Listen to me carefully, the only way out to pay off our debt or to survive our debt is

00:35:37.100 to have something that takes our country and pushes it, our GDP up, you know, by 10 points.

00:35:45.100 All of a sudden, if that happens, then we're starting to make more income tax revenue and

00:35:50.560 we can pay the debt.

00:35:51.920 We can afford the things that we've already, you know, spent money on.

00:35:55.600 If we don't have that, we're into, into a different bad scenario world.

00:36:02.640 So they're promising us that, but at the same time, they're promising us we can pay the debt.

00:36:09.240 We can, we can lead the world on this, but we also are not going to have a lot of jobs.

00:36:14.340 Oh, and by the way, to do that, we're also going to have to take energy and maybe for a while,

00:36:21.880 take it from the people, people who can't afford food, don't have jobs, uh, don't have meaning,

00:36:29.600 uh, and don't have power.

00:36:33.100 Uh, that doesn't lead to any place good at all.

00:36:42.120 Warning, it's coming.

00:36:44.760 Please, please pay attention to those things that are meaningful.

00:36:49.520 All right, back in just a second.

00:36:51.200 Let me tell you about, uh, burn a launcher.

00:36:52.840 One of the most meaningful gifts you can give this time of year is real peace of mind.

00:36:56.200 Knowing that the people you love have a way to protect themselves as something unexpected

00:36:59.700 or frightening happens.

00:37:00.600 Uh, and the world's going to get more dicey.

00:37:03.040 It is before it gets better.

00:37:04.260 It's going to get more dicey.

00:37:05.380 The burner launcher.

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00:37:18.120 without taking a life.

00:37:19.200 It's legal in all 50 States, no permits or background checks required anywhere.

00:37:22.880 You know, one of the things I, first of all, I got this yet last Christmas for all of my

00:37:26.800 kids.

00:37:27.080 They're all over 18. 0.96

00:37:28.400 So I got, gave it to him.

00:37:29.680 I said, if you're, you're going on a campus, I want you to have it in your backpack.

00:37:33.140 You have it in your car.

00:37:34.240 You have it in your purse.

00:37:35.140 You carry it concealed.

00:37:36.500 You don't need permits or whatever.

00:37:38.260 Uh, and it's given me as a dad, a lot of peace of mind.

00:37:41.980 Um, but I don't know why this isn't in every school.

00:37:44.900 I really don't understand this.

00:37:46.780 I mean, we say the left says, you know, I want to get rid of guns.

00:37:50.100 We want to protect our children.

00:37:51.580 This is it.

00:37:52.620 This is the way to do it.

00:37:54.140 It won't kill anybody.

00:37:55.060 Even if somebody in the classroom happened to take it from the teacher.

00:37:58.080 Okay.

00:37:58.480 So there's tear gas, but nobody has died.

00:38:01.080 But if you have a shooter come into the school and they've got a gun and they're killing people,

00:38:05.700 you could just put your hand around the corner and just shoot in the direction and tear gas, 0.51

00:38:10.780 the guy down on the ground for 40 minutes.

00:38:12.980 Cops are there.

00:38:13.680 They arrest him and you stop the killing.

00:38:16.040 I don't understand it.

00:38:18.300 This is a great product.

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00:38:30.080 As I said, great Christmas gift, but I think every household should have it.

00:38:34.160 I think every teacher should have it.

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00:38:40.780 Teach your kids, right? 1.00

00:38:44.180 Shoot. 0.99

00:38:45.260 You know, schools won't do it for you. 1.00

00:38:48.680 This is Glenn Beck.

00:39:01.180 Most people don't realize how much financial noise they live with on a day-to-day basis.

00:39:05.580 You've got the headlines about the market and tax changes and retirement questions and estate decisions and charitable goals are kind of just like a low level stress that sits there behind everything until something forces you to confront it.

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00:40:42.000 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:40:43.720 I have to tell you, I am so excited for January 5th and all of the changes that are coming in my life personally and in the show and the approach that we're taking.

00:40:59.280 I hope you join us right in early January and experience the torch.

00:41:06.000 It'll be available at glenbeck.com.

00:41:07.460 In fact, we might be releasing parts of it, you know, uh, the website, it's all a brand new website and everything might be releasing parts of it here, uh, in the next few days.

00:41:17.580 Um, just to make sure that, you know, it all works doing some beta testing now on a lot of stuff, but we're so excited, so excited, uh, for you to see all of the new material.

00:41:29.360 I can't remember what we're launching with, it is more material now that we're launching with than I have at the blaze and glenbeck.com now combined all of that.

00:41:43.540 I mean, it's just so much stuff, uh, and it's only going to get better and better and really hopefully empower your family.

00:41:50.940 Uh, let me go to Brian, uh, quickly in New York.

00:41:54.080 Hi, Brian.

00:41:54.600 Hey guys, I hope you're all doing well.

00:41:58.000 Hey, um, just one thing that I wanted to, I just wanted to bring up from a strategy standpoint that, that I don't feel is ever really brought up has to do with just having kids.

00:42:07.620 And I guess I just wanted to get your thoughts on that.

00:42:09.640 I mean, to me, it seems like a strategy for success.

00:42:12.700 Uh, we know it's being done within the Muslim world, obviously. 0.91

00:42:15.700 Um, why is that not spoken about more?

00:42:18.260 And again, I just think it seems like a missed opportunity.

00:42:21.880 Well, I think you're, you're exactly right.

00:42:23.780 And I think if we don't have kids, we are just going to disappear off the face of the earth.

00:42:28.160 Um, the numbers by 2050, make it inevitable that we're an Islamic world. 1.00

00:42:32.700 Um, and I don't think that's a, I don't think that's a good, a good thing.

00:42:36.280 Uh, quite honestly, I think, uh, Christianity is very, very important.

00:42:39.600 I think the Western civilization is very important, but we're not having kids and it has been a very long, I mean, it's very Malthusian.

00:42:46.560 I've been studying this maybe next year I'll do something on it, but it, this has been going on for, you know, centuries of trying to just liquidate people and keep the numbers small.

00:42:56.940 And, you know, we've seen it, uh, you know, going from eugenics into global cooling, global warming.

00:43:07.160 We're going to have no food supply.

00:43:09.280 We're overpopulation, the population explosion.

00:43:12.640 Now with global warming, all of this stuff is telling us there's no reason to live.

00:43:19.760 No, don't have more children. 0.93

00:43:21.340 And so many people have bought into it.

00:43:24.020 I will tell you as a guy who, to my shame, I was young, I was arrogant in my twenties and I got married and started having children.

00:43:34.000 And my wife wanted to have children. 0.92

00:43:36.140 And I really was not excited.

00:43:37.420 I did not have a good childhood, um, and didn't know how to be a father and still don't know how to be a father.

00:43:43.160 But, um, I did not want to have children, did not want to have children.

00:43:48.520 Now I wish I would, I wish I had eight.

00:43:51.400 I wish I had 10 children because you get to a point where you start to grow up and you're like, that is the only point of life.

00:43:59.520 It is, gives you so much joy, so much grief, but so much joy.

00:44:04.040 And even if you have to struggle through it, children are the purpose of life.

00:44:11.060 Uh, and it's just so much joy.

00:44:13.260 Please have children.

00:44:15.160 Lots of them.

00:44:16.140 This is Glenn Beck.

00:44:17.740 If you haven't tried Kexi Cookies yet, uh, they are on a completely different level.

00:44:23.180 These are, of course, uh, from, from Pat and Jackie, uh, Gray, of course we love.

00:44:28.780 Oh my gosh, they're so good.

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00:44:31.500 I just got a box of them, Stu.

00:44:32.800 Mm-hmm.

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00:44:39.660 Yeah.

00:44:40.540 Kexi Cookies.

00:44:42.540 It's funny, Glenn, the origin of this company was, you know, Pat would just bring in these cookies around the holidays.

00:44:48.240 And we'd have them in the office.

00:44:49.680 I told them for years.

00:44:50.580 Yeah.

00:44:51.460 Yeah.

00:44:52.080 For years, I'd say, Jackie, I grew up in a bakery.

00:44:55.800 I'm like, these are the best cookies I've ever had.

00:44:58.840 And now finally they're doing it and they're so good.

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00:46:23.920 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:46:28.100 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:46:35.000 Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:46:37.200 Yesterday, we had Erica Kirk on, spend about a half hour with her amazing woman. 0.99

00:46:42.100 Yesterday, also, when we kind of touched on this,

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00:46:48.400 It was eerie, if you saw any of it.

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00:46:54.360 But there's an update on this trial that happened yesterday.

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00:48:25.260 All right, let me go to Billy in Colorado.

00:48:26.940 Hello, Billy.

00:48:27.560 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:48:30.100 Hey, Glenn.

00:48:31.480 So I'm a 30-year police veteran, now retired, which maybe 30 years of policing has just

00:48:37.480 hardened me a little bit to people suffering.

00:48:39.100 But I've got to tell you, listening to you talk to that husband yesterday was really touching.

00:48:44.860 Just especially the part where you were like crying like a little girl.

00:48:48.500 So that was awesome.

00:48:49.840 Okay.

00:48:50.460 You have to be more specific.

00:48:51.720 There's so many segments like that.

00:48:53.220 No, we got it.

00:48:54.780 We got it.

00:48:56.340 I mean, I'm horrible.

00:48:58.020 I don't know what's happening to me.

00:49:01.280 I'm in this phase right now where I'm just like, I'm crying all the time.

00:49:05.880 That was especially touching.

00:49:09.240 I mean, I don't think you have a heart if you didn't cry.

00:49:12.500 I'm just saying, Billy.

00:49:14.900 But thank you for pointing out I'm a little girl.

00:49:18.400 Anyway, I'm glad you felt that, too.

00:49:24.640 Yeah, your man card might be threatened a tiny bit by that.

00:49:29.180 But you know what?

00:49:30.180 It honestly is a beautiful thing you do.

00:49:33.360 Thank you.

00:49:34.400 Thank you.

00:49:35.100 I have to tell you, we gave an update last hour.

00:49:37.360 Let me give you just a real quick update.

00:49:42.160 Everything is being taken care of.

00:49:44.360 Her flight is covered.

00:49:45.740 The hotel is covered.

00:49:46.900 The hospital.

00:49:48.280 Thank you, Tampa General.

00:49:49.940 Hospital is covered.

00:49:51.660 Doctors are covered.

00:49:53.240 We don't know what the plan of attack is yet right now.

00:49:57.260 But everybody has stepped to the plate.

00:50:03.820 And it's just remarkable.

00:50:07.360 I mean, the guy who invented Dr. Norman, who invented the surgery, he's the guy who was like trying to get a hold of us.

00:50:16.600 And he was listening to the show.

00:50:17.740 He's a big fan of the show.

00:50:18.520 And he's like, oh, my gosh, this is this is my thing.

00:50:21.760 He's he doesn't perform it anymore.

00:50:23.240 But he's the one.

00:50:24.300 The hospital is named after him for this procedure.

00:50:27.520 And he's involved.

00:50:28.980 And I talked to the hospital last night.

00:50:31.160 They're getting others.

00:50:31.980 So she has other opinions and other doctors involved. 0.97

00:50:35.480 And she's going to have a ton of options.

00:50:39.080 And hopefully she, you know, will not choose, you know, made, which was her only option just two or three days ago.

00:50:47.460 And I talked to her husband afterwards.

00:50:49.400 I called him and I said, I was so excited.

00:50:52.080 I'm like, I just got off the phone with the hospital.

00:50:54.140 I just got off the phone with the doctor.

00:50:55.420 And I was I didn't tell him this, but I said to the hospital, I said, I'm not sure how much this surgery costs.

00:51:02.360 And I'm kind of, you know, I'll take care of it.

00:51:06.200 But I mean, maybe we can get a discount or I might have to raise some money for it.

00:51:11.420 And they just stopped me right in the middle.

00:51:12.900 They're like, Mr. Beck, we want to save her life.

00:51:16.860 This is all taken care of.

00:51:17.880 Don't worry about it.

00:51:18.460 We'll take care of it.

00:51:19.320 I mean, it was just such a great moment of humanity.

00:51:23.540 Just I was so, so proud of everybody that is involved in my God.

00:51:28.640 You're making me cry again.

00:51:30.440 So I'm going to stop talking about it.

00:51:31.740 But really good news on that.

00:51:34.160 We'll just have to keep following the story.

00:51:36.300 Lance in South Carolina.

00:51:38.380 Hello, Lance.

00:51:40.360 Hey, Glenn.

00:51:41.660 Been listening for years.

00:51:43.120 Tim Tenominan was when I first got introduced to you.

00:51:48.480 Oh, my God.

00:51:50.040 The future with Tim Tenominan.

00:51:54.060 You really need to do a.

00:51:55.600 Oh, you know, while I got you all laughing.

00:51:57.680 The, uh, the, uh, Stu's Christmas special.

00:52:02.260 Oh, the Christmas twist.

00:52:03.860 Oh, Christmas twist.

00:52:04.800 Yeah.

00:52:05.640 Never touch it.

00:52:06.700 Leave it alone.

00:52:07.260 It's perfect.

00:52:08.020 Don't try to redo it.

00:52:09.320 No remakes.

00:52:10.280 It's perfect.

00:52:11.500 No, we don't need to remake it.

00:52:13.440 I tell you, I think.

00:52:14.580 What was it, Stu?

00:52:15.280 Wasn't it Hallmark that remade it?

00:52:17.720 Yeah.

00:52:17.920 I mean, I'm watching, I'm watching a Hallmark because my mother-in-law and my wife and my

00:52:23.380 daughter, they want, they watch Hallmark Christmas.

00:52:25.720 It's all the TV all the time.

00:52:27.340 And I come in the room and I'm like, this is the Christmas twist.

00:52:31.160 Hallmark stole the cookie story from Stu.

00:52:35.780 It's amazing.

00:52:36.860 I like to think of it more as a tribute than a theft.

00:52:40.020 And we are happy that they did it.

00:52:41.760 But if you don't know this, it's a Christmas twist as a movie, a little mini movie we made

00:52:46.200 many years ago now, and we rerun it during the holidays.

00:52:50.400 And it was basically a parody of those Hallmark movies about a woman who owned a Christmas

00:52:56.200 cookie store and how her life with the evil businessman and her potential love interest

00:53:03.140 played out.

00:53:04.120 And we were just making fun of those Hallmark movies.

00:53:06.340 And then multiple years, I was like two or three years after that, Hallmark released

00:53:10.440 the movie with the exact same plot line.

00:53:13.300 I mean, it's so good.

00:53:14.560 Like, exact.

00:53:14.740 Except it's a serious Hallmark movie.

00:53:18.480 Yeah.

00:53:18.720 It really is like somebody watched the Christmas twist.

00:53:22.620 I mean, it's not, you know, eventually you got to get to cookies because they're all about

00:53:27.040 some evil businessman destroying something in the town.

00:53:30.000 So eventually you're like, I don't know what's left, the bakery?

00:53:32.460 Let's try cookies.

00:53:33.380 Right.

00:53:33.900 But it is so exact.

00:53:36.180 It's so exact.

00:53:37.180 Better acting.

00:53:37.880 I would say better acting.

00:53:39.240 In some ways, yeah.

00:53:41.120 In some ways.

00:53:41.820 Well, it doesn't have Jeffy in it or me.

00:53:43.960 But anyway, so thank you.

00:53:45.640 Thank you so much, Lance.

00:53:48.100 Is that what you were calling about?

00:53:49.940 No, no.

00:53:50.740 Actually, I want to talk about the pardons.

00:53:55.260 Hunter's pardon was legitimate.

00:53:57.040 I mean, he was actually accused of a crime.

00:53:59.000 I know you're plugged in with the president.

00:54:01.640 I haven't heard anybody say this anywhere.

00:54:03.780 And I've been watching everything.

00:54:05.840 These pardons, forget the auto pen.

00:54:08.000 The auto pen doesn't even matter because these were immunity deals.

00:54:11.640 These were not pardons.

00:54:13.020 None of these people were under investigation.

00:54:14.860 None of these people had any crimes they were accused of.

00:54:17.400 So you can't pardon somebody for something they may have or may not have done.

00:54:21.460 And that's an immunity deal.

00:54:22.780 And again, I've watched everything.

00:54:24.340 I haven't heard anybody bring that subject up.

00:54:26.100 I don't think the auto pen even matters.

00:54:28.200 I just think these things are just null and void from the jump.

00:54:31.540 And like I said.

00:54:34.480 Who do we have besides Mike Lee?

00:54:36.280 Because Mike's always hard to get a hold of at this time because he's like, I'm working on Senate stuff, Glenn.

00:54:41.100 Who do we have that's a constitutional scholar that we could call real quick and see if we can get an answer on that before the end of the show?

00:54:46.980 So I'd like to at least put a call out to Mike Lee, will you?

00:54:50.200 But I'd like to know that because the president has and Stu and I have been talking about this for a while.

00:54:56.900 This has gotten out of control.

00:54:58.320 These these pardons are out of control, out of control.

00:55:02.320 It's something constitutional.

00:55:03.980 It's been there since George Washington.

00:55:06.900 President has always had this right.

00:55:08.460 And it is a privilege of his.

00:55:10.500 But you're right.

00:55:11.720 These things where, you know, wait, I can't investigate this.

00:55:16.280 That what that does is if you are as a president doing something that you shouldn't be doing, all you have to do then is say, I pardon everyone in my administration for anything that they might have done wrong.

00:55:29.360 That can't stand.

00:55:30.840 You're absolutely right on that.

00:55:32.400 Yeah, I mean, and you have the the immunity deal, which, again, I think it's I don't see if the I don't see how a pre pardon is even possibly covered.

00:55:44.040 Like, it's just such an insane concept.

00:55:46.720 I mean, the way that Biden he's right, that Hunter Biden actually committed a crime and pardoning him from that is in theory, obviously, outside of the family interest was the way that that was supposed to work.

00:55:56.160 But they also pardoned him for multiple years of question marks, whether he committed crimes or not.

00:56:00.720 Right.

00:56:01.160 Right. That was all included in that.

00:56:03.040 And I go to go a step farther on this, because I am a bit of I am on a bit of a personal jihad against the pardon.

00:56:08.800 I'm done with it.

00:56:09.900 I'm done with it.

00:56:10.620 Personally, I get that there's reason the founders were very, very smart, but the founders are smart enough to also have a process for constitutional amendments.

00:56:17.100 And I would support one getting rid of the pardon power completely.

00:56:20.400 I'm done with it.

00:56:21.440 But I got it.

00:56:22.460 May I just interrupt you for a second? 0.61

00:56:23.960 And I just want to point out, we now have verification not only is Stu a Canadian spy, but he is also a hidden Nazi. 0.66

00:56:31.700 Notice the word he used, jihad, which translates to my struggle.

00:56:36.620 Hitler's book, my struggle, Mein Kampf.

00:56:40.260 I just want to point it out.

00:56:41.560 Exposed.

00:56:41.880 To be clear, I'm not planning a genocide on the power of pardons.

00:56:47.080 But I am against it strongly.

00:56:50.100 But the other part I would say that I think is even worse and is never discussed are these types of pardons where they say, you know, all marijuana crimes.

00:57:00.400 Everyone who had one of those are pardoned.

00:57:02.320 There's 17,000 people.

00:57:04.300 That is just you legislating.

00:57:06.460 If I wanted to come in and say, hey, I think marijuana should be legal, I could theoretically become president and just say everyone ever committed, everyone convicted of a marijuana-related crime is now pardoned.

00:57:18.560 And, like, that's just you making laws.

00:57:21.260 It's you going completely around Congress and the entire process we have there.

00:57:24.880 Like, at the very least, it should be massively restricted from the way that it's being utilized by not only, you know, several presidents in a row, I would argue.

00:57:35.540 But it should just, you know, I think it should just go away completely.

00:57:39.540 It's the most king-like power that the president has, and it doesn't make any sense to me.

00:57:44.180 Yes.

00:57:44.720 So the – I was just – I'm looking this up here.

00:57:50.320 Barack Obama did this.

00:57:52.520 He gave clemency for anybody who was convicted of a nonviolent federal drug crime with no significant criminal history while serving extraordinarily long sentences.

00:58:03.700 And anybody who was a violent offender was not eligible.

00:58:09.380 And it was – it wasn't a true mass pardon, but it was pretty close to it, you know.

00:58:17.200 It was mass and scale, but not blanketed.

00:58:21.040 Right.

00:58:21.340 And I think there were, like, 2,000 people that he pardoned on that.

00:58:24.440 That's just the law.

00:58:25.560 That's creating a new law. 0.97

00:58:26.640 Yeah, you're saying, oh, by the way, that law that I personally disagree with, we're not going to – it's gone.

00:58:33.880 The whole law doesn't count anymore.

00:58:35.540 Like, what kind of – we have a whole process to make laws.

00:58:38.520 When someone – when they pass a law, you can't just say, eh, and shrug your shoulders and say, I don't particularly like it.

00:58:43.820 And for some reason, that is the way that the pardon power has been translated.

00:58:46.920 The problem is that the president can do that.

00:58:52.860 The president has just always had the restraint not to do that because it was bad for the country and bad for laws.

00:59:01.300 You know, you don't just – you don't do this.

00:59:03.720 We're becoming more and more of a king in our administration.

00:59:09.820 And it's not Donald Trump.

00:59:11.360 This has been going on for a long time.

00:59:13.400 Barack Obama, I think, got really, really bad.

00:59:17.140 But this was going on before him, obviously.

00:59:20.240 But Barack Obama kind of set something off.

00:59:23.100 And then because we couldn't get any legislation passed, we had Donald Trump try to do executive orders to combat Barack Obama's executive orders.

00:59:32.400 Then Biden did it.

00:59:33.760 Now Trump has – it's got to stop because here's the problem.

00:59:36.840 One of the things I said in our special on Wednesday, which was biggest stories of the year and predictions for next year, I said you're going to start to see rolling brownouts in places like Texas in 2026.

00:59:51.740 Texans, wake up, wake up.

00:59:54.280 But you're going to start to see rolling brownouts.

00:59:56.200 But I also made another prediction.

00:59:59.900 I just lost what I was going to say was the prediction.

01:00:03.380 Oh, this massive swing.

01:00:06.620 We're getting whiplash.

01:00:08.940 You can't run a country like this.

01:00:12.840 You can't run a country where it's all being done by executive order.

01:00:17.440 Because, look, we were all the way over to one side when Trump was here.

01:00:23.160 Then we swung way farther than that with Biden.

01:00:27.320 Now Trump is bringing us back this way.

01:00:30.060 If you don't pass laws, it's just going to swing.

01:00:33.300 And you can't run a country like that.

01:00:36.220 This has got to stop.

01:00:37.880 We have to pass laws.

01:00:40.640 Congress must do its job.

01:00:44.640 All right, back in just a minute.

01:00:45.780 Let me tell you about Rough Greens.

01:00:46.640 Most of us don't realize how our dog's diets are missing everything that they need

01:00:50.880 until you see your dog start to decline.

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01:00:55.040 I did.

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01:01:28.360 And he said, how's your dog?

01:01:29.880 And I said, well, he's getting older.

01:01:30.800 I said, but he's, uh, he's slowing down, but he won't eat.

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01:01:49.220 Cause I really thought he was healthy.

01:01:50.240 Just slowing down.

01:01:51.560 He wasn't slowing down.

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01:01:53.760 That was the deal.

01:01:54.500 He was missing all of these things, but he used to run to his bowl.

01:01:58.120 When we put rough greens on it, he ran to his bowl to eat and gobble it down.

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01:02:35.700 We have Sue in Minnesota.

01:02:47.420 How are things in Minnesota?

01:02:49.000 Sue's Sue. 0.99

01:02:50.000 Well, they could be better.

01:02:53.080 They could be better.

01:02:56.140 Yeah.

01:02:56.740 I don't even recognize my home anymore.

01:02:59.520 Um, it's, it's really hard.

01:03:02.240 What does that mean?

01:03:02.960 It is really hard.

01:03:04.200 What's that mean?

01:03:04.900 What does that mean that I don't recognize my home?

01:03:07.580 I swear everyone's gone insane.

01:03:10.120 Although I grew up on a farm in Western Minnesota, corn and soybeans.

01:03:14.260 So I'm corn fed and I moved to the twin cities and that might not have been such a good move.

01:03:20.000 I think I'd have done better in Sioux Falls.

01:03:22.100 Cause I think people have a little more common sense in South Dakota.

01:03:26.260 So the thing with our governor here is a bit of a problem.

01:03:32.920 Um, you know, the whole, we spared this country so much misery.

01:03:38.820 You guys really owe us.

01:03:44.960 I don't know if you were the one, I believe they, uh, I believe the vote went to him.

01:03:51.180 Didn't it?

01:03:52.020 Didn't it go to Kamala in Minnesota?

01:03:55.020 It did.

01:03:56.480 It did.

01:03:57.180 Oh my God.

01:03:57.800 So, yeah, you know, you didn't help, you know, about, you know, about rocks and cows.

01:04:04.980 Do you, do you know about rocks and cows?

01:04:08.200 Generally speaking, I know about rocks and cows.

01:04:10.980 Well, here's, here's another version of rocks and cows.

01:04:15.100 I, I'm not clear on who he was talking to, but he, um, he just said to them, there was

01:04:22.880 a debate on the table about, about Minneapolis because the Minneapolis area runs the whole

01:04:29.820 state because the population is so much bigger and the rest of the state is just led around

01:04:36.260 by a nose ring.

01:04:37.420 And so, but he said, Oh, don't worry about it.

01:04:41.100 That's nothing but rocks and cows out there.

01:04:44.060 Oh my gosh.

01:04:45.400 Yeah.

01:04:45.740 I have to tell you, I know, I know, I know the rest of the country is going the opposite

01:04:50.260 direction.

01:04:50.800 Thanks Sue for your call.

01:04:52.500 I, I, uh, I would like to make a case that we should have the electoral college statewide

01:05:01.200 because these, these cities are growing so big and so powerful that they dictate what

01:05:09.760 happens in the rural areas.

01:05:11.620 And those are entirely different.

01:05:14.540 They're entirely different.

01:05:16.080 You can't, you can't get a bunch of city people to regulate what's going on in the farmlands

01:05:22.040 and the farmlands shouldn't have to live under the same kind of stuff that the people in

01:05:25.340 the city want.

01:05:26.480 It it's, I mean, we're, this is, this is what the way that this is what our founders were

01:05:31.920 afraid of with the country that New York.

01:05:34.840 And I think it was Pennsylvania would rule everywhere else. 1.00

01:05:39.240 And that's why we have the electoral college and it's still happening.

01:05:42.500 If we didn't have the electoral college, believe me, New York, uh, and California, we would

01:05:48.320 go their way every single time.

01:05:50.580 Um, you can't, you can't do it that way.

01:05:53.420 And I think that we're having this problem in the States, the States become, the cities

01:05:57.400 become so progressive and so oppressive and they're putting our farmlands and our farmers

01:06:03.580 under restrictions that nobody understands.

01:06:06.060 They don't understand the rural areas.

01:06:09.340 Uh, and that's, I don't know, kind of important, you know, I mean, only if you want to eat, let

01:06:15.540 me go to, uh, Tom quickly in Florida.

01:06:17.660 How much time do we have here, Sarah?

01:06:18.680 Uh, Hey Glenn, uh, total honor very quickly.

01:06:25.300 Uh, this, this parathyroid thing is a very real thing. 1.00

01:06:28.700 I'm a full-time actor, voiceover talent and shuttle driver.

01:06:32.580 And, uh, I shuttle for the largest privately held parking service and five hotels.

01:06:36.780 And I shuttle those patients.

01:06:38.480 They come in from all over the world, but just like the infomercial Glenn, there's more,

01:06:42.920 uh, God blessed me.

01:06:45.620 And I'm out near the beach, uh, in a month, monthly rental. 1.00

01:06:49.920 And this Canadian thing with their stupid healthcare system is very, very real. 1.00

01:06:54.380 Very, very real. 1.00

01:06:55.480 I was on a lease with this call.

01:06:58.380 Hang on, hang on, hang on.

01:06:59.360 Let me, hold on.

01:07:00.000 I don't want to, I don't want to cut you off here, but I have to for a network break.

01:07:02.960 We'll be back in just a minute.

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01:08:32.820 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

01:08:50.460 We were talking to Tom in Florida and you were about to tell us a story.

01:08:55.200 Tom, go ahead.

01:08:55.760 Hey, thanks, Glenn.

01:08:58.220 Yeah.

01:08:59.180 To kind of recap, the reader's digest, the parathyroid thing, very real.

01:09:03.260 I shuttle those patients as far as them coming in to stay at one of the five hotels I shuttle.

01:09:10.440 Full-time action reports over time.

01:09:12.100 Do you support that?

01:09:12.940 Here's the thing.

01:09:14.740 This thing with Canada is very, very real.

01:09:18.080 God's blessed me.

01:09:19.020 I sold my home at 26 years, 36 years of Florida back in May, June.

01:09:23.220 I went on a four-month lease out here at the beach until I figured out what I want to be when I grow up.

01:09:28.280 What I did is this Canadian couple, he's got a shoulder issue, black and blue all the way up and down.

01:09:37.280 They were going to come down.

01:09:38.280 They were going to take it over.

01:09:40.520 Emergency to the Canadian government to get this thing.

01:09:44.400 There could be a blood clot in there.

01:09:45.960 I don't want to say the name or anything like that.

01:09:48.780 You know, you could break away, embolism, whatever.

01:09:51.080 There's all kind of dangers, and this guy's waiting, and, I mean, I'm kind of benefiting from it because I still want to go month to month because I haven't bought anything yet.

01:10:00.760 You know, God's been good to me.

01:10:02.280 I'm a cash buyer.

01:10:03.660 But this thing is very, very real.

01:10:06.380 The parathyroid thing, I mean, that system up there is just a total mess. 1.00

01:10:13.060 Before you comment, if there's time before I get off the call, before I get kicked off the call, I may, because of my experiences as a shuttle driver, have a ray of hope for you on the power situation in Texas, but I won't get into that right now.

01:10:27.280 Okay.

01:10:28.320 All right, so let me comment on that, Tom, and I'm going to put you on hold, and you can pass that information to my producer.

01:10:33.980 But let me comment on the health care thing.

01:10:37.780 You're absolutely right, and I want to make sure that, because up in Canada, they're trying to make this like I'm, you know, against Canadian health care.

01:10:45.060 I'm not a Canadian.

01:10:46.340 I, you know, I feel the same way about the socialized health care up in Massachusetts when they did Romney Care.

01:10:51.680 I'm not in Massachusetts.

01:10:52.600 You have a right to make that decision if that's what you want to do.

01:10:55.260 I don't want it in my state, and I think it's a mistake.

01:10:57.440 But you're Canadian, you can do whatever you want, and I know Canadians, I mean, you know, my brother Robert, his wife is Canadian, and she has defended the Canadian health care system my whole life.

01:11:11.800 I've known her since we were teenagers, and she has defended this her whole life, and her family lives up in Canada.

01:11:18.860 That is starting to change as people they know and people in the family are not able to get basic things done anymore.

01:11:27.920 It's because the system is being overwhelmed.

01:11:32.100 Sometimes this socialized thing will work for a little while, but then as things change and numbers begin to change, you get overwhelmed, and then you have to start rationing.

01:11:43.100 And that's what's happening, and it is extraordinarily dangerous.

01:11:45.820 And, you know, I don't know what's happening with Jolene.

01:11:49.140 I just know that the doctors down here, the hospital, everybody is on board.

01:11:55.500 They're going to do a thorough review of her case.

01:11:58.760 They're going to get her help.

01:11:59.900 If she needs surgery, she'll have surgery. 1.00

01:12:01.500 If she doesn't need surgery, she'll find whatever it is.

01:12:03.660 We'll find out what's going on with her.

01:12:06.180 But they don't have the luxury of that up in Canada.

01:12:09.620 You have people who are, you know, it's a meat grinder.

01:12:13.500 It's like triage up in Canada from the way I understand it.

01:12:17.480 You got to get in, and you got to be processed.

01:12:20.000 Got to move.

01:12:20.380 Got to move.

01:12:20.760 Because I've got so many patients, and I can't take any more patients.

01:12:23.640 I'm overwhelmed.

01:12:24.400 So we got to move.

01:12:25.060 Got to move.

01:12:25.420 Got to move.

01:12:25.740 And you don't want that in your health care, because sometimes it's not what it seems like it is.

01:12:32.380 Or, you know, like you said, going with a bad shoulder, and, well, that might be an embolism.

01:12:39.680 It might be whatever.

01:12:40.640 I don't know.

01:12:41.880 But that's why you need time.

01:12:45.440 That's why you need doctors. 0.94

01:12:46.760 That's why you need to be able to have a doctor who's looking at you, listening to you, thinking out of the box.

01:12:53.420 I mean, I've been so fortunate myself, but I'm, you know, and I'm not your average person, and it kills me that people don't have this ability.

01:13:06.000 But we have to find a way to fix it so everyone can have this ability to be able to see doctors here in the United States, and socialized medicine is not it.

01:13:16.180 But I've seen three doctors, I think, from my back, and all three of them have had different opinions.

01:13:20.580 They all say pretty much the same thing, but the treatments are completely different, completely different.

01:13:27.000 And one will say, I think there's something here that the other didn't see.

01:13:32.660 If you only have one doctor, and you're in socialized medicine, what that doctor says, there you go.

01:13:38.800 That's what you're going to do.

01:13:40.000 And sometimes doctors can be wrong.

01:13:41.720 It's just a system that no longer works.

01:13:45.980 It just no longer works.

01:13:47.360 And you know it doesn't work because now the health care system is offering death to people.

01:13:54.140 There's no reason Jolene should have been recommended for death.

01:13:59.380 There's no, you don't kill people because of this.

01:14:02.100 You fix it.

01:14:03.140 You find out what's going on.

01:14:04.640 But because they don't have the time, and again, no dispersions on the doctors up in Canada, no dispersions on Canada.

01:14:13.160 You do your own thing.

01:14:15.240 But this is wrong.

01:14:16.820 This has to be fixed.

01:14:18.380 And it's not going to be fixed with more government.

01:14:21.360 It's just not.

01:14:22.760 And it's also not going to be fixed with more open borders.

01:14:26.540 Recognize what the problem is.

01:14:28.000 We have a problem with our school systems here.

01:14:30.560 We're having a problem with our health care systems being overwhelmed.

01:14:33.200 Why do you think that is?

01:14:34.540 Why do you think people can't afford houses?

01:14:36.920 Well, the price of apartments have gone through the roof.

01:14:39.620 The price of condos have gone through the roof.

01:14:41.120 The price of houses have gone through the roof.

01:14:42.960 Why do you think that is?

01:14:44.320 You can't bring 10 million new people in and then expect that your house is going to remain at the same price.

01:14:53.120 It's you have too many people chasing too few homes.

01:14:57.860 That's what makes it go up.

01:14:59.580 You want it to go down.

01:15:00.940 You have to fix the problem with sell your homes to citizens.

01:15:06.140 Rent your homes to citizens. 1.00

01:15:08.200 They have to go home.

01:15:09.820 If they came here illegally, they've got to go home. 0.97

01:15:14.220 That's the real crux of so many of our problems.

01:15:18.460 And I don't know why people can't see that other than they're blinded by politics.

01:15:22.660 Take the political blinders off.

01:15:24.800 Let the chips fall where they may.

01:15:26.920 If the Republicans did something bad, great.

01:15:28.940 Give them the blame.

01:15:29.720 If the Democrats did something bad, give them the blame.

01:15:32.280 Let's just talk about the problem and what the real issue is.

01:15:35.640 Rebecca in Texas.

01:15:37.160 Hi, Rebecca.

01:15:37.740 How are you?

01:15:40.620 Hi, I'm well.

01:15:41.660 Sorry about that.

01:15:42.540 How are you?

01:15:43.280 That's all right.

01:15:44.120 I'm good.

01:15:44.400 I was calling because my fourth grader, I was showing him George AI the other day.

01:15:52.760 And when you were speaking, it looks great, by the way.

01:15:55.260 Well done.

01:15:56.620 And when you were speaking about it.

01:15:57.960 It's a long way from being right, but thank you.

01:16:00.240 Well, it looks great.

01:16:01.800 You mentioned and you referred to it as a he.

01:16:05.700 And I was just curious how that kind of evolved to where you get to where you're calling it he.

01:16:13.120 Is it because you're intimate with the algorithm that almost in a sense you trust yourself so much?

01:16:18.420 Okay.

01:16:20.080 So just kind of how do you, are you wrestling with that?

01:16:23.380 Oh, big time wrestling with that.

01:16:26.280 I try and I've said on the air, don't ever refer to it as anything but it.

01:16:30.060 And I do.

01:16:30.760 And I don't know what's causing that other than it can respond in a human way.

01:16:38.940 It can respond in a way that a human would.

01:16:41.960 And so it is natural.

01:16:43.360 And I'm glad you caught me on that.

01:16:45.560 And I have to ask all my producers when you catch me on that.

01:16:49.820 And if I'm saying he instead of it, correct me.

01:16:53.380 Because this is a big problem.

01:16:55.720 I don't refer, I might refer to it as he, which is a problem.

01:17:00.900 But I don't think of it as a person or anything else.

01:17:05.900 I know when I think about it, I know exactly what it is.

01:17:09.340 It's just, and it's a bad, it's the beginning of the slippery slope, I think.

01:17:14.640 It's a bad habit because when we're talking about an interview, I'm talking about an interview with him.

01:17:19.820 I've never used, there's no other case where I'm like,

01:17:22.800 I'm doing an interview with it.

01:17:24.200 And I need to.

01:17:25.500 I need to.

01:17:27.320 But you seem very concerned about that, Rebecca.

01:17:32.940 Why is it?

01:17:34.060 I agree with you.

01:17:35.040 But what is your concern?

01:17:35.900 Well, I thought it was, you know, you told us really, and I knew it as well, but to kind of just fear what it can be.

01:17:48.900 And already we're having a hard time believing our own eyes.

01:17:51.620 And so I just thought it more of an interesting, just an interesting note and just how easy it can be to fall into that.

01:18:03.160 Oh, I know.

01:18:03.720 And so you are, you are the perfect mom.

01:18:08.920 You are so great.

01:18:10.020 And being aware of all of this, it is why we had a discussion because people said, Glenn, you don't want to call it George AI because AI is going to be, everything's going to be AI eventually.

01:18:19.520 And it's going to look outdated.

01:18:21.460 And I, my, my view was, uh, George AI, we're not to that point yet where everybody understands AI.

01:18:28.460 And I want it always to be, you know, when we, when we get into the video releasing of this next year, and this is not something that you'll even be able to recognize, but everything we create beginning next year, everything is watermarked.

01:18:42.680 So I'm going to know what's live and what is, uh, AI, you can't take any of my videos and manipulate me because there will be an invisible watermark that we know about.

01:18:54.800 And we'll be able to go not Glenn, that's AI.

01:18:58.420 Um, and the same thing with everything that we produce that is AI, it will be watermarked, uh, and an invisible watermark that we'll be able to say, no, that's not truth.

01:19:09.640 That's AI.

01:19:10.520 And everyone who is producing this kind of stuff needs to do that.

01:19:15.720 Uh, and one of the reasons why I call it George AI is so everyone understands it's AI and not a person.

01:19:23.440 Um, you know, what I, what you said, it looks great.

01:19:26.820 It's out of sync.

01:19:27.980 The voice isn't right.

01:19:29.300 The, the features aren't exactly right, but it's amazing.

01:19:33.280 Um, but in a year from now, it's going to be remarkable.

01:19:39.980 And that's when it is really important that people understand.

01:19:45.300 And I, I was talking to somebody who just, uh, gave a talk at the white house yesterday.

01:19:50.560 She called me for some, uh, you know, some AI, um, talking, you know, some, some thoughts on this.

01:19:56.800 Cause she represents, um, uh, families and moms. 1.00

01:20:00.820 And she was asked by the president to speak to all of these producers of AI.

01:20:05.540 And she said, Glenn, what do I need to know?

01:20:07.660 And I said, you need to know that anything anthropomorphic must be marked and parents must know and have a choice.

01:20:17.600 So, you know, any of these plush toys that have AI capabilities, I think they should be banned.

01:20:25.220 Um, I don't think anybody should be able to make any kind of AI doll plush, anything that represents like a talking animal or anything else, because the AI is going to get so good.

01:20:38.340 And it is going to be gathering stuff from your children.

01:20:41.500 And unless you have control of that, um, you know, on our AI, when we actually release the full version of it, you will have an opt out.

01:20:53.420 Do you want it to, um, be able to, uh, discuss things with your children and learn from your children on their educational stuff?

01:21:03.340 Not any personal stuff, just educationally.

01:21:05.840 Do you want it to evaluate educationally or not and learn from that so it can help your children learn better or not?

01:21:14.240 And then all of that information goes into a vault that you would control.

01:21:18.300 You could say purge it and we would never use it for anything else.

01:21:21.360 But that, that requires a great deal of trust.

01:21:24.060 I don't know how many people would sign up for that, but that would give us an ability to help your child learn a little bit better.

01:21:30.760 But it also requires us to learn or the system to learn about your child.

01:21:36.620 When you are dealing with corporations that you don't know, you don't trust, that information is going to go everywhere.

01:21:44.100 And that's the kind of information that is going to go into these plush toys.

01:21:47.600 And they're going to learn everything about your kid and they're going to map everything about your kid.

01:21:51.320 And it's not good.

01:21:53.040 And your kid will start to associate that cute little teddy bear that can talk to them just in a way that mom and dad don't understand.

01:22:00.140 It is extraordinarily dangerous.

01:22:03.480 So you, thank you for calling in.

01:22:05.580 Thank you for correcting me.

01:22:06.640 I urge you as an audience to help me learn this.

01:22:10.320 Correct me.

01:22:10.740 If I say I'm urging my, I know Stu will, he loves to hammer me.

01:22:14.860 Um, you know, if I make this mistake to correct me immediately, because that is a grave, grave danger.

01:22:22.820 It is a tool.

01:22:24.240 It is a machine period.

01:22:27.240 Thank you for that phone call.

01:22:28.500 All right, I'm going to take a quick break and come back more of your phone calls.

01:22:31.420 We also have a great, we have Lee Strobel on next, uh, at the top of the hour.

01:22:36.200 We're going to spend a few minutes with him.

01:22:37.560 How do we know, how do we know that who was born in a manger in Bethlehem?

01:22:43.100 What is the evidence of any of that?

01:22:44.940 How do we even know that story is true?

01:22:46.660 He's going to talk to us about that coming up in just a second.

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01:24:36.880 It's an interesting conversation, especially on who you trust with a lot of this AI stuff.

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01:24:43.460 I was just reading about the Washington Post.

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01:28:23.180 All right.

01:28:28.140 We're going to have the case for Christmas, and I have a guy on.

01:28:32.380 Now listen to his, listen to the resume, okay?

01:28:34.580 Listen to the resume.

01:28:34.960 Former award-winning legal editor of the Chicago Tribune, New York Times bestselling author, sold millions of copies, journalism degree at the University of Missouri, awarded a Ford Foundation Fellowship to study at Yale Law School, has his Master's of Studies in Law degree.

01:28:53.340 Journalist for 14 years at the Chicago Tribune, he's won Illinois' top honors for investigative reporting, public service journalism award for the United Press International.

01:29:05.300 He taught First Amendment law at Roosevelt University.

01:29:09.300 He was an atheist, has now served as a teaching pastor at three of America's largest churches.

01:29:20.180 He's been married for 50 years.

01:29:23.760 His name is Lee Strobel.

01:29:25.840 Now, with that resume, up until the former atheist, you'd be like, oh, he's going to teach us about Christmas. 0.66

01:29:32.880 Yeah, he is.

01:29:35.360 Wait until you hear his case for Christmas.

01:29:38.760 We're going to talk to him in just a second.

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01:31:09.080 Lee, welcome to the program.

01:31:12.120 How are you?

01:31:13.460 I'm doing great, Glenn.

01:31:14.540 Great to be with you again.

01:31:16.720 Yeah, I love talking to you.

01:31:19.020 I'm really excited to hear the case for Christmas.

01:31:22.700 Now, you were an atheist.

01:31:25.020 Yeah.

01:31:25.240 And we've talked about this before.

01:31:29.360 Your eyes opened up.

01:31:31.420 And how did you get to the place to where you're like, okay, let me see if I can make the case for the baby Jesus in the manger?

01:31:39.160 Well, yeah.

01:31:39.800 Being an atheist, my wife became a Christian.

01:31:41.720 So I decided to try to rescue her from this cult that she's gotten involved in.

01:31:45.680 So that launched me on an investigation into the historical reliability of Christianity.

01:31:50.860 I did that for two years until I became convinced that in light of the evidence, it would take more faith to maintain my atheism than to become a Christian.

01:32:00.620 So I became a Christian and ended up leaving journalism and so forth and written many books about it.

01:32:06.020 But I wanted to do a book on Christmas because in the Christmas season, there seems to be a more spiritual openness than any other time of the year.

01:32:15.040 Even when I was an atheist, I felt more spiritually sensitive during the time of Christmas.

01:32:21.300 I don't know why.

01:32:22.100 I guess it's because it permeates the culture.

01:32:24.860 Yeah, I think it's because we see hope.

01:32:29.280 We see goodness in one another.

01:32:31.780 It's different.

01:32:33.700 Yes, exactly.

01:32:34.980 But how do we know that it's based on reality?

01:32:38.180 How do we know?

01:32:39.280 We can all enjoy the parties and the gift giving and so forth, but how do we know it's really based on historical reality?

01:32:45.380 That's what really intrigues me as someone who's kind of a history buff.

01:32:49.720 Okay, so take me through that.

01:32:51.560 How do we know?

01:32:52.400 Well, yeah, we've got two real early independent but consistent reports about the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem 2,000 years ago.

01:33:02.780 One comes from the Gospel of Luke.

01:33:05.260 Now, Luke was a – I love this guy.

01:33:07.360 He was a first-century investigative reporter.

01:33:10.360 He was a companion of St. Paul.

01:33:13.100 And Luke said – he didn't say, well, I'm going to tell you about something that happened in the distant past once upon a time.

01:33:19.800 No, he said, I carefully investigated everything so I could write an orderly account about the certainty of what took place.

01:33:26.260 So he's claiming, I'm writing about what actually took place.

01:33:29.240 I believe he writes from Mary's perspective.

01:33:33.880 I think he may have interviewed Mary.

01:33:35.840 If he didn't, I think he interviewed Susanna and Joanna, who were friends of Mary, who he mentions in his Gospel.

01:33:41.540 And then we have Matthew.

01:33:42.960 Matthew was also – he was a disciple.

01:33:45.380 Matthew was right there in the first-century setting.

01:33:49.900 He later became a leader in the church in Jerusalem.

01:33:52.080 And one of the other leaders was a guy named James, who was the half-brother of Jesus.

01:33:57.080 So James, I think, communicated to Matthew kind of the male – the guy's perspective of the birth of his brother, Jesus.

01:34:04.960 And so here we've got – by the way, I was talking to a woman the other day, and she has a young child.

01:34:09.880 And I was talking to her about this, and she said, yeah, you know, if you ask my husband the story about the birth of our child,

01:34:16.400 and you ask me, you're going to get two different perspectives, but we're going to be consistent.

01:34:21.380 It's the same birth, you know?

01:34:22.860 We're talking about the real situation.

01:34:24.820 So we've got these two very early reports that are independent, that are consistent with each other.

01:34:30.600 And then we have a very interesting report in the Gospel of Mark.

01:34:34.400 Now, Mark is writing based on the recollections of Peter, who is one of the inner circle with Jesus.

01:34:40.440 And he starts his Gospel later in Jesus' life, so he doesn't have a birth narrative.

01:34:44.620 But interestingly, in Mark 6, verse 3, he refers to Jesus as Mary's son.

01:34:51.660 Now, in first-century Jewish culture, you would never do that.

01:34:55.140 You were always your father's son.

01:34:56.640 It would have been Joseph's son.

01:34:57.800 Even if Joseph were already deceased, you would always refer to him as Joseph.

01:35:01.700 And no, he referred to him as Mary's son.

01:35:04.000 I think there was a wink to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

01:35:06.620 Joseph wasn't his biological father.

01:35:09.140 And then we have John, who writes the last Gospel.

01:35:12.420 He doesn't repeat a lot of the historical stuff in the first three Gospels.

01:35:16.420 He writes from a grand theological perspective about the Incarnation.

01:35:20.340 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

01:35:24.920 And then the Word came into our world and dwelt among us.

01:35:28.040 So it was very theological.

01:35:29.800 But interestingly, John had a disciple who he mentored.

01:35:33.560 And that guy wrote a letter.

01:35:36.960 And in that letter, he says Jesus was, quote, really and truly born of a virgin.

01:35:43.880 Where did he get that idea?

01:35:45.120 I think it was from John, who wrote the Gospel of John.

01:35:47.880 So is it concerning at all?

01:35:51.240 Because I've heard this argument before.

01:35:54.000 You know, when the Gospels all say the same thing, it's pretty clear.

01:36:01.280 But they can't even agree on the last words of Christ when he's on the cross.

01:36:07.520 And does it matter?

01:36:10.640 Should we be concerned that only two of the four Gospels talk about the birth?

01:36:14.140 No, I don't think so, because, first of all, those are two solid sources, historically and very early.

01:36:21.900 Mark gives us a reference to the fact that Joseph was not the biological father.

01:36:27.720 And he also portrays Jesus as being the unique Son of God.

01:36:31.480 And John, of course, was a theological take on the Incarnation, is basically saying the same thing.

01:36:37.460 So, no, I don't think that's a problem.

01:36:39.460 And the differences in the Gospels, I don't think are a problem either.

01:36:43.540 Because, you know, as someone trained in law, if you're in a trial and the witnesses get up and they all say the exact same thing, you object and say, your honor, collusion.

01:36:55.000 They got together, they worked out the story, and you can't trust it.

01:36:59.100 But when you have different perspectives, people emphasize different things.

01:37:02.860 There's, for instance, a technique that was used in ancient literature that's used today called literary spotlighting.

01:37:10.140 And what that means is somebody will focus on what one person is saying or doing, and other people will focus on other people who are involved in the same scene.

01:37:20.720 But it's not contradictory.

01:37:22.500 They're just focusing on different aspects of the same scene.

01:37:25.160 So, when you look at what the, yeah.

01:37:29.760 No, I'm sorry to interrupt.

01:37:31.900 I was going to say, when you look at the literary techniques that were used in the first century by other ancient writers like Plutarch and so forth, these historians,

01:37:42.360 and you use those same literary techniques in writing the New Testament, these discrepancies between the Gospels virtually disappear.

01:37:52.200 So, let me take you here.

01:37:53.680 And I, you know, I believe in this story, but I want to push back as hard as I can on this.

01:38:00.060 You know, the virgin birth is so hard for people to accept.

01:38:04.060 And especially once you look at Greek mythology, you're like, this is the same story.

01:38:08.660 They're just plagiarizing.

01:38:09.880 This is, you know, half man, half God.

01:38:12.520 You know, this is Hercule.

01:38:14.520 So, how do you respond to that?

01:38:17.780 Yeah, I actually deal with this in my book.

01:38:20.300 This is totally bogus.

01:38:22.580 This was invented by German theologians in the 1800s.

01:38:26.700 In the early 1900s, the Christians responded to it and answered it and refuted it.

01:38:33.200 But now it's come up again, I think, because the Internet has dredged up these old arguments.

01:38:37.900 So, for instance, you've got the most famous example is Dan Brown in his book and movie The Da Vinci Code,

01:38:44.900 where he says, oh, well, you know, Christiane just copied all this stuff.

01:38:49.740 He said there was an ancient myth called Mithras, and Mithras was born of a virgin on December the 25th.

01:38:56.840 He had 12 disciples.

01:38:58.660 He died for world peace.

01:39:00.580 He was resurrected from the dead.

01:39:02.120 So, now Jesus is just kind of plagiarizing that that story of Jesus was invented by people and plagiarized from Mithras.

01:39:10.560 Well, I investigate that, and what do you find?

01:39:14.000 You find in the actual myth of Mithras, number one, he was not born of a virgin.

01:39:20.440 The myth was he emerged fully grown, naked, wearing a hat out of a rock.

01:39:25.440 But, I mean, it's the same thing.

01:39:30.600 Yeah. 0.97

01:39:31.640 I guess you could say the rock is a virgin, but, I mean, that's ridiculous.

01:39:36.000 Secondly, born on December the 25th.

01:39:38.420 Well, so what?

01:39:39.000 We don't know the date Jesus was born.

01:39:40.640 That's not in the Bible.

01:39:41.880 The ancient records don't record it.

01:39:43.660 Ancient Christians did not care about birthdays. 1.00

01:39:46.140 Third, he didn't die for world peace. 0.89

01:39:49.420 He was known for killing a bull.

01:39:51.460 Fourth, he didn't have 12 disciples.

01:39:53.500 According to one version, he had one disciple.

01:39:55.780 According to another version, he had two disciples.

01:39:58.840 He wasn't resurrected from the dead.

01:40:00.460 There is nothing in the myth about Mithras about him dying, and so nothing about a resurrection.

01:40:05.560 So, all of these parallels, supposed parallels, disappear when you investigate what actually took place.

01:40:14.820 You know, people say, oh, Alexander the Great, you know, there was a myth that he was conceived by Zeus, the god Zeus.

01:40:21.880 Well, even Alexander the Great's own mother, Olympias, said it's not true.

01:40:27.420 It's crazy.

01:40:28.580 It's just a story.

01:40:29.260 It's not true.

01:40:29.900 So, every one of these supposed myths that predated Christianity, none of them are parallels to the story of Jesus' birth in Bethlehem.

01:40:41.700 All right.

01:40:42.380 Let me, I'm going to take a one-minute break, and then I want to ask you about the one word, one Greek word, that shed new light on the traditional Christmas story.

01:40:52.540 More with Lee Strobel here in just a second.

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01:42:37.500 So tell me about the one Greek word that opens things up.

01:42:51.740 It really does change everything about the common perception of Christmas.

01:42:55.160 The common idea of Christmas that people have is that Mary and Joseph, because of a census, had to go to Bethlehem to register.

01:43:02.240 And they get there, and she's about to give birth.

01:43:05.920 And so you go to a lodge or an inn, and the mean old innkeeper says, sorry, no room here, and close the door in their face.

01:43:13.120 And so they go off to a stable, and she gives birth among the animals and puts the baby in a manger.

01:43:18.540 Well, what that comes from is just a sentence in the Gospel of Luke, where he says the baby was placed in a manger because there was no room for Mary and Joseph in the katalima.

01:43:30.920 That's the Greek word, the katalima.

01:43:31.920 So the question is, what does that word mean?

01:43:34.360 Does it mean an inn?

01:43:35.240 There was no room at the inn?

01:43:36.780 I don't think so, and most scholars don't think so.

01:43:40.400 That's how it was translated into King James in 1611, but it's probably not the best translation.

01:43:45.980 So let me explain something, how a house looked in first century Bethlehem.

01:43:51.380 There was one large room broken down into two parts.

01:43:54.580 The larger part was the living area.

01:43:56.220 That's where people would live, eat, sleep.

01:43:58.640 And then there was a couple of steps down to a smaller area where the animals were brought at night.

01:44:03.420 And they were like pets.

01:44:04.480 You know, they may have a couple of goats, a couple of sheep.

01:44:06.240 And there was a manger there.

01:44:08.980 But because there was a couple of stairs up, they would sometimes come up in the living area.

01:44:13.940 Because, you know, how cute are they?

01:44:15.220 They're little lambs.

01:44:16.960 They're like pets.

01:44:18.180 And so there was a manger also in the living area.

01:44:21.080 While some of the more wealthy people had a katalima, a guest room.

01:44:26.020 It had a separate entrance, and it made their house bigger.

01:44:28.920 But what apparently happened is that Mary and Joseph arrived in Bethlehem, and they went to the home of a relative and knocked on the door and said, hey, we're here for the census.

01:44:37.780 And they said, oh, that's great.

01:44:39.460 But you know what?

01:44:40.180 We've got a lot of people here for the census.

01:44:41.780 There's no room for you in the guest room, the katalima. 1.00

01:44:45.800 But you can give birth in the living area. 0.95

01:44:49.940 And, yes, there is a manger there.

01:44:51.440 And, yes, some of the animals may have come up the stairs because of the commotion and what was going on.

01:44:55.440 And, yes, the baby was probably put there in a manger.

01:45:00.580 Now, in the year 1395, John Wycliffe, who did a translation into English or the Greek Bible, translated it as a guest room.

01:45:11.820 The New International Version, which is probably the most popular translation in America today, doesn't use the word in.

01:45:18.360 It uses guest room.

01:45:20.060 Now, Luke, in writing this account, he knew what word to use.

01:45:27.400 Katalima, he uses it one other time.

01:45:29.820 And in that other instance, it was also a room and a house.

01:45:33.840 There's another word he uses, pandohaeon, which is a Greek word that means an inn.

01:45:39.280 And he does use that word when he talks about the parable of the Good Samaritan.

01:45:42.760 So he knew if he wanted to use the word inn, he would have used pandohaeon.

01:45:47.360 But he didn't.

01:45:48.020 He used katalima.

01:45:49.480 And the conviction of most scholars is it just means a guest room.

01:45:54.220 There probably was no inn.

01:45:55.360 Wow.

01:45:55.580 And, by the way, yeah, I know.

01:45:57.300 It's kind of mind-blowing, isn't it, after all we've heard?

01:45:59.740 Yeah.

01:46:00.160 And the other thing is in first-century Jewish culture, the value of hospitality was so high that it would have been impossible for an innkeeper to turn away a pregnant Jewish woman.

01:46:12.620 I mean, he would have been ostracized from the church.

01:46:14.700 He would have run out of town on a rail.

01:46:17.240 It would have destroyed his business.

01:46:19.220 You could not do that because the value of hospitality was so high.

01:46:23.000 And we don't even know there were any inns in Bethlehem.

01:46:25.400 It was a small town, 500 people.

01:46:27.280 It wasn't on a main crossroads.

01:46:29.260 There may or may not have even been an inn there in the first place.

01:46:32.360 But I think the majority of scholars, I think, would agree that the word really means guest room and not an inn.

01:46:42.140 And that changes everything.

01:46:45.900 It changes your whole vision of that.

01:46:49.280 You know what I mean?

01:46:50.000 That's mind-blowing.

01:46:52.100 I know.

01:46:52.480 It's just totally mind-blowing.

01:46:53.420 It is.

01:46:55.060 Not only that, the image we have is that Mary is on the verge of giving birth as she's arriving and makes it urgent.

01:47:01.920 That's not in the text either.

01:47:04.120 It just says that while they were in Bethlehem, she gave birth.

01:47:07.620 It doesn't say they're in Bethlehem five minutes or five days or five months.

01:47:10.860 But where the idea of the urgency comes from is a book of fiction that was written in 200 A.D., a lot afterwards.

01:47:17.920 No real historical connection.

01:47:20.400 And in that fictional account, Mary and Joseph are approaching Bethlehem.

01:47:24.180 They get three miles away from Bethlehem.

01:47:26.280 And she had to give birth. 0.94

01:47:27.980 And so they went into a cave.

01:47:30.840 And she gave birth among some animals in a cave.

01:47:33.100 That's where the idea of a cave comes up because people envision her giving birth in a cave.

01:47:37.980 That's from a book of fiction that doesn't have historical reality written way, way, way later.

01:47:45.760 I have so many questions, Lee.

01:47:47.260 Can I have you back next week?

01:47:48.860 I have so many questions on this.

01:47:51.420 I'd love to have you back next week on this.

01:47:55.900 Because I want to talk to you about the Old Testament prophecies because people will say, well, they just wrote that in later.

01:48:03.100 Because they knew he was a fulfillment.

01:48:05.260 So they look and they just jammed this story together.

01:48:08.240 But you have the answers to all of that.

01:48:11.840 So I'd love to have you back next week.

01:48:14.600 Absolutely.

01:48:15.160 Just let me know.

01:48:16.720 You got it, Lee.

01:48:17.560 Thank you so much.

01:48:18.760 God bless you.

01:48:19.180 Merry Christmas.

01:48:19.780 I'll talk to you next week.

01:48:21.840 It's a fascinating book.

01:48:23.200 You got to read it.

01:48:23.820 The Case for Christmas.

01:48:25.700 Well, I mean, it just did.

01:48:27.080 It'll turn everything upside down.

01:48:28.560 And I love those kinds of things, you know, that make you think and look at things in a new and different way.

01:48:34.820 Lee Strobel is, I think he's one of the best.

01:48:37.320 He's the author of The Case for Christ.

01:48:39.360 But his new book is The Case for Christmas.

01:48:43.100 How you can know for sure what was laying in that manger.

01:48:46.940 And where was that manger?

01:48:48.400 Was it in the kitchen, apparently?

01:48:49.820 I mean, I don't know.

01:48:51.940 More in just a second.

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01:50:23.920 I have to tell you, the least rubble I love having on, I had Dominic Crossan on one year.

01:50:43.600 This was early on in the show.

01:50:45.660 And he's a Catholic theologian.

01:50:48.160 And, you know, he's a controversial Catholic theologian.

01:50:52.360 But I asked him, I said, listen, can I have you on and talk about the crucifixion and resurrection?

01:50:56.480 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:50:57.040 And it's Good Friday.

01:50:58.460 Good Friday.

01:50:59.340 And we go for 45 minutes.

01:51:01.380 And I said, you know, tell me, build the case for the resurrection.

01:51:05.020 Tell me, after they take him down, they bring him to the tomb.

01:51:07.200 And he's like, and he's just said, oh, well, he didn't rise from the dead.

01:51:10.640 And I was like, we're live on the air.

01:51:12.980 Okay, Good Friday, 45 minutes into this, he tells me he didn't rise from the dead.

01:51:17.140 And I went, wait, what?

01:51:19.940 No, he didn't rise from the dead.

01:51:21.300 And he goes into Greek mythology and everything else.

01:51:23.320 And I went, wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:51:24.320 You're a Catholic theologian.

01:51:26.720 You're a Christian.

01:51:27.780 How do you not believe?

01:51:28.860 And he's like, well, you know, I just don't believe it because it didn't happen.

01:51:31.900 It was the worst ending of a show I think I've ever done, with the possible exception.

01:51:39.760 I was having dinner with somebody the other night.

01:51:41.980 And they said, Glenn, I have listened to you since you made out with your sister.

01:51:46.120 And I said, oh, my gosh, you heard that show?

01:51:49.800 And it was one of the first shows I did on national radio.

01:51:52.220 And I was making the point.

01:51:53.920 I didn't say this in advance, but I was making the point that if you normalize gay marriage, 0.80

01:51:59.640 I could normalize pedophilia.

01:52:02.260 I could normalize anything.

01:52:03.580 All you need is a good storyteller.

01:52:05.920 And I've been saying that for days.

01:52:07.960 On the Friday, I get on and I said, listen, I got to tell you why I'm so passionate about this.

01:52:13.560 And I tell this story about how when I was young, my sister and I went to the fair and I painted this whole picture.

01:52:19.880 And we were up on the Ferris wheel.

01:52:21.580 It was just magic.

01:52:22.380 And our eyes caught and we started to kiss each other.

01:52:24.980 And I've been in love with my sister forever.

01:52:27.020 And we've never talked about it.

01:52:28.600 We never acted on it.

01:52:29.560 But don't condemn me for that.

01:52:32.160 We started taking phone calls and I was turning people to my point of view.

01:52:36.480 OK, compassion.

01:52:37.920 How do you why do you hate?

01:52:39.300 Why do you hate?

01:52:40.100 Why do you hate?

01:52:41.000 Why can't you recognize that my love is different than your love?

01:52:43.780 And I was turning people.

01:52:45.600 And I said more in a minute.

01:52:47.460 And I'm about to say I did it in 30 minutes.

01:52:51.360 You don't think society can do that.

01:52:53.580 OK, but we go to the break and it's right after 9-11.

01:52:57.660 And George Bush has breaking news and he does a press conference and it takes him 25 minutes.

01:53:04.080 I have no time.

01:53:05.900 All of our stations break away for that press conference.

01:53:09.680 And Premier calls me the next that that day right after I got off the air and went, what?

01:53:14.720 What are you thinking?

01:53:16.460 What did you just do?

01:53:17.900 And I said, that's not what I meant.

01:53:19.540 I was that wasn't the story.

01:53:21.460 It was a point.

01:53:22.680 They're like, we don't know if you're going to have any stations left tomorrow because they all want to cancel.

01:53:26.860 And I'm like, oh, that was probably the worst.

01:53:31.020 Yeah, because you got preempted and no one could hear your rap.

01:53:34.280 There's no rap up.

01:53:35.600 It did eventually come.

01:53:37.740 And for those people who lived through it, it was amazing.

01:53:40.120 The next day, like every five minutes, I was like, no, no, listen.

01:53:42.400 Listen, that wasn't what I meant.

01:53:44.300 It wasn't what I meant.

01:53:46.960 So bad.

01:53:47.840 It's been a roller coaster ride.

01:53:49.160 OK.

01:53:49.600 I know.

01:53:50.600 Let me go to Eric in Pennsylvania.

01:53:52.560 Hello, Erica.

01:53:53.420 How are you?

01:53:53.920 hi mr beck um i heard your um monologue on the pledge of allegiance a couple of

01:54:02.180 weeks or months ago and i heard your frustration in it and you were basically saying that you

01:54:08.700 the two for government as a christian i'm thinking that you know about when adam and eve sinned

01:54:17.260 they basically rejected god and his rule over them right yes i missed a sentence you cut out yeah

01:54:26.720 you cut out i missed a sentence so what is your what what did i say in the pledge that you took

01:54:32.580 issue with well you're basically saying that you can't pledge allegiance to two countries or flags

01:54:38.440 so yes yes um so at that at that time the man was created to be ruled by god and not themselves

01:54:47.200 and that's why we see so much misery and suffering and and death and crime and it's you know cruelty

01:54:53.100 so uh god has allowed man to rule over him over themselves for 2 000 years without success

01:55:01.400 so in our hearts we have to make sure that that we uh are always going to believe that god is going

01:55:08.600 to rule over us and everything will be all right so then maybe you won't be so frustrated um you just

01:55:15.780 have to have that well i do have that i i do have that faith erica i thank you for your your point

01:55:20.560 here but i i do have that faith i i believe that and that was kind of my point that you know you

01:55:25.360 i will never do anything for my second citizenship which my second citizenship is a citizen of the 0.88

01:55:32.640 united states of america america first you bastard uh my first citizenship is in the kingdom of god 0.86

01:55:38.900 and i will not violate my first citizenship for my second citizenship um and and that and i do have 0.97

01:55:47.000 that faith i know that things get tough and awful and i'm very frustrated at times but i absolutely know

01:55:52.500 god is involved he is not neutral in the affairs of man we may not like the way he's dealing with

01:55:58.540 things we may be like really do we have to go through all this but i trust that he's got it all

01:56:03.900 under control let me go to dan hello dan welcome to the glenbeck program hey good morning um

01:56:10.080 listening to you talk about the ai centers and all that and the power and

01:56:15.080 usage and all that stuff that's you know that's all well and good we need it we need the power i'm

01:56:21.380 all for it i'm all for nuclear power but what do we do about water that they're going to need for

01:56:25.800 cooling and not not the power nothing reactors themselves but these servers suck up a crazy amount

01:56:33.800 of water where's that going to come from i know um it's going to come from people if we're not

01:56:38.940 careful that that's what's going to happen i mean the the power and the water are going to be

01:56:42.800 diverted to these servers because they'll say they run our entire country and our lives and without them

01:56:48.180 we won't exist um and that's what i was warning about first on power second you're absolutely right

01:56:53.860 on water there are some things uh i think it was microsoft uh just used i believe i believe it was

01:57:03.000 their new quantum computer to come up with a new substance that's not water um and that they can

01:57:11.400 fully submerge these these um servers in uh and they work and you don't need water and they keep them

01:57:19.720 all cool the other option another option very expensive option but another option is eventually put

01:57:24.900 all of these servers up uh in geosynchronous uh orbit um because you have absolute zero in space and that

01:57:32.940 would keep them cool obviously but we're going to have a problem nobody nobody is really dealing with

01:57:37.500 the real issues and that is power and water you're exactly right steve south carolina hello steve

01:57:44.800 hi uh real quick on george ai i think the the reason that you naturally said him is because

01:57:53.100 it's a male voice if you were talking to like indira gandhi or something like that you would

01:57:58.040 actually say her but you know that's that's my clip the thing i wanted to talk about was uh you talked

01:58:04.000 about the civil war and uh the seven steps towards it and all that type of stuff and yes my thought on

01:58:12.000 that my thought on that was i don't think that our country i think everybody's too lazy you know i

01:58:20.220 don't think they have i don't know and i don't know who would lead like who would america really

01:58:27.560 fight for you know i mean people love donald trump and everything but i don't see them i don't see the

01:58:33.340 cause to fight for the person that would inspire people enough to do that and i wonder what you thought

01:58:38.700 about that i mean i don't disagree with your your thoughts on that but i just don't know how what

01:58:44.360 form it would take so um i agree i think it's ironic steve that you're calling from south carolina

01:58:50.900 probably not the call that i should have taken about a civil war but um the uh i think when you

01:58:57.640 said who would we fight for who would lead i don't think that a civil war will come because of a person

01:59:03.820 i think it will be a person would appear and i'm not wishing for this i think this is the worst

01:59:10.200 possible thing that could happen um but but when you have no electricity you can't afford food you

01:59:17.160 have water shortages all the things just what we're talking about today just you know just take those

01:59:21.920 things if those things came to be oh and you also had constant surveillance under ai and people were

01:59:28.860 split on this and going i don't want that in my life um you're someone will appear and the the

01:59:34.900 fracture will happen um it's it won't be good i mean you know you want to see the effects of civil war

01:59:42.080 rwanda um nothing good comes from civil wars uh ours did but it again like the american revolution i think

01:59:50.540 that's the only one that ever has mark welcome to the glenbeck program yes hi

01:59:57.860 can you yes i can hey glen i just want to say how much i love you i've been with you for the very

02:00:07.700 beginning and uh i set out the rain with you in utah here in man of the moon i witnessed the double

02:00:16.660 radio and it was an incredible experience i think i have a lot in common with you we're about a month

02:00:26.640 the part in eight uh me because of my health i i don't know how much time i have left and

02:00:34.300 that's the reason i'm calling really i i've been accused of by my family i'm kind of living in a

02:00:41.380 bubble because i listen to you and i listen to other people like you i have about four or five people

02:00:50.720 i listen to that have podcasts and my family a very staunch left wing we've always been left wing

02:01:01.080 i'm kind of the oddball and i need to know if i live in a bubble or not uh well do you only listen to

02:01:12.100 those things mark and you only listen to those podcasts uh i i do sometimes catch the news i'll

02:01:21.080 catch uh okay fox news once in a while uh i listen to you and a few other people that are more

02:01:29.040 independent actually so let me tell you this mark the best way to dismantle this argument with your

02:01:36.960 family is say who should i listen to who do you recommend who do you think is telling the truth

02:01:42.700 and let me listen to them but then will you talk with me reasonably about them um and about what i

02:01:49.340 learn um because i don't want to live in a bubble i don't honestly i don't want a lot of this stuff to

02:01:53.840 be right uh i i listen to the new york times read the new york times washington post um you know

02:01:59.500 you you've got to read that i do it i don't know if i would do it if i were the average person

02:02:04.960 um because i got better things to do than you know but you want to make sure you understand the

02:02:12.000 other side you want to understand them and so uh if you want to make an impact with your family

02:02:18.240 i would suggest to you that you ask them who do you listen to who do you recommend and would you

02:02:25.240 make an exchange with me if i listen to them and i'll talk to you about them will you listen to

02:02:31.240 glenn beck and let's talk about that and we both have to be have an open mind about it will you do

02:02:36.760 that because you live in a world where you don't listen to any of these things why am i the only one

02:02:42.680 living in the bubble but it requires you to do you know both sides let me go to uh rick in ohio hello

02:02:49.160 rick hey glenn and stew what a pleasure save time thank you i'll just say ditto um love you guys

02:03:00.600 miss miss them uh what i want to talk about is nobody brings up you anybody else fox uh speaker johnson

02:03:10.000 president uh obamacare and how this one size fits all and how you can't join together

02:03:17.980 and form a group like say if amac wanted to offer what i and you talk to the president what i thought

02:03:26.000 was great the other day when he brought the firefighter up and uh in the poconos and worked

02:03:31.780 400 hours of overtime and the waitress just think if he brought a union member because big union state 1.00

02:03:40.720 uh they had his group plan and then brought somebody else up who's on obamacare and the price difference

02:03:48.740 i mean i was on it before i went on social security and it went from

02:03:53.060 300 to 900 for a single guy in no time and you're paying for you know young kids say 26 he doesn't want 0.51

02:04:03.580 yeah some of that stuff and do a i never hear anybody bring it up not that they can go into this

02:04:09.700 all the details um i i will tell you rick that um i i'm tired of depending on these politicians

02:04:20.420 because i don't think they're going to ever come up they they've already made up their mind

02:04:23.500 that it is either some sort of hybrid or socialized medicine and those are not those are not the answers

02:04:31.120 it's not the answer i don't know why we're not talking why don't where is the person with big

02:04:34.760 ideas on health care that will completely change it it says look we've been looking at this all wrong

02:04:40.920 and here's how it should work where is that person where is that movement um until you there those

02:04:48.620 people might be out there but they're not making an impact because you can't get a single politician

02:04:52.660 to actually buy into it because they bought into all the experts and all of the crap and

02:04:57.240 and quite honestly most of them want this kind of insurance um and uh they just think it's you know

02:05:03.860 it hasn't been done the right way well canada did it apparently the right way for a long time and look

02:05:08.400 what's happening now it always ends in shortages and then then the whole thing goes to hell thank you so

02:05:13.580 much for your phone call um final thoughts on the program here in just a second first let me tell you

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02:07:12.160 what a week it has been uh i can't thank you enough uh for all of the thoughts and prayers and

02:07:28.080 please play pray for uh jolene and miles who are the couple up in canada she's in the hospital with

02:07:35.480 pneumonia um and we just she's got to get healthy and then we're exploring all the

02:07:41.920 options but money is taken care of the doctors are on it here in america we can get her here 0.88

02:07:47.440 it just we just need to know the right thing to do and but everything is taken care of and

02:07:52.040 mostly because of you the audience is telling everybody you know thank you for that christmas

02:07:57.600 miracle next week the last week of shows for 2025 and the last ever glenn beck tv program next week

02:08:05.040 you don't want to miss it uh we've got a lot of great stuff planned for you all next week thank you

02:08:10.880 so much for listening and may god save the republic this is glenn beck

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