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00:00:00.000 Let me tell you about American Giant.

00:00:02.680 Is that an American Giant sweatshirt?

00:00:05.380 This is an American Giant sweatshirt.

00:00:07.280 That is a good-looking sweatshirt.

00:00:08.740 I freaking love it, man.

00:00:09.140 Yeah.

00:00:09.420 Their stuff is so good.

00:00:10.780 I know.

00:00:11.320 I know.

00:00:12.040 I have one of those.

00:00:13.740 It's a great...

00:00:14.380 I think that's mine.

00:00:16.300 It's a child size, though.

00:00:19.320 It's one of those things that you can throw on when you're just going out around the town.

00:00:23.760 I put a jacket on top of it, too.

00:00:26.120 Yeah, totally.

00:00:26.480 You could wear it to a nice event.

00:00:27.720 Yeah, you can.

00:00:28.420 It's a really great sweatshirt.

00:00:30.080 And they make them the way they used to be made.

00:00:32.500 And I mean used to be made.

00:00:34.480 Many people don't even remember.

00:00:35.860 The sweatshirts from the 50s and the 60s and the early 70s, they were fantastic.

00:00:41.900 And they lasted forever.

00:00:43.900 Same machinery, literally same machinery that they had to bring back because it was all sold to Japan.

00:00:50.900 They brought it back to America, put it in a factory in the Carolinas, and they make some of the best clothing in America, all American.

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00:01:17.760 Then he says,

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00:01:19.420 Dan.

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00:01:54.180 It's a new day, a new time to rise.

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00:02:12.760 What you're about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:02:20.220 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:24.540 Hello, America.

00:02:28.360 I wanted to talk to you today about something positive, something that I believe can save

00:02:33.860 our nation, something that can change all of our lives.

00:02:38.000 But I had to hire a gospel choir to help me do it today.

00:02:42.800 Yes.

00:02:43.820 Yes, it is a sign that maybe somebody has too much money and too much time.

00:02:48.620 Today, we're going to talk to you about the way countries have survived before and this

00:02:56.420 country has survived.

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00:03:01.520 I'm a big fan of sleep.

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00:03:57.640 Hello, Stu.

00:03:58.760 You know what that theme needs?

00:03:59.940 It's a horn.

00:04:01.440 That's true.

00:04:02.400 In all songs, I think, that horn should appear.

00:04:05.400 Yes.

00:04:06.680 All right.

00:04:07.320 I want to talk to you today about something that has been on my mind.

00:04:12.520 For years.

00:04:14.600 I've been talking about doing this for, I don't even know, 12 years, maybe.

00:04:22.320 And I've never felt the time was right.

00:04:24.620 There was always something that came up.

00:04:26.680 And this began really right after Restoring Honor.

00:04:30.540 Restoring Honor was the event that I had in Washington, D.C.

00:04:33.600 Some might remember it.

00:04:34.860 It was August 28, 2010.

00:04:36.860 And it was on the mall in Washington, D.C., in front of the Lincoln Memorial.

00:04:41.620 And there were hundreds of thousands of us gathered for the day.

00:04:45.340 People came from all over the country and the world.

00:04:47.780 And that was just an attempt just to say, we need honor.

00:04:54.720 Honor is part of our country.

00:04:57.360 Without it, we're nothing.

00:05:00.000 The next year, in Jerusalem, we did courage.

00:05:04.800 Restoring courage.

00:05:07.120 Honor and courage makes all the difference.

00:05:10.320 But the year after, we did love.

00:05:13.820 Restoring love at Dallas Cowboy Stadium.

00:05:15.960 The first spoken word event ever in Dallas Cowboy Stadium.

00:05:20.760 And I think still the only one that was sold out.

00:05:24.500 There was so much for us to learn.

00:05:37.480 A few years ago, we were going to go to Gettysburg.

00:05:40.660 And we had done a lot of work on it already.

00:05:44.280 And it was going to be restoring the covenant.

00:05:49.400 And I just, I kept, I mean, for, this has haunted me for years.

00:05:55.060 And so I finally go, okay, we're going to do it.

00:05:58.120 And then COVID happens.

00:06:00.160 And I'm like, well, that just, okay.

00:06:04.320 And in my prayers, since then, I've been saying, okay, I've got to come up with an event.

00:06:09.520 I've got to come.

00:06:10.560 And then I heard in my prayers, why?

00:06:13.680 You have 12 million people listening to you every day.

00:06:19.480 Oh.

00:06:21.420 Yeah.

00:06:22.460 I forgot about that.

00:06:24.500 The stronger the feeling got in me, the more urgent it felt.

00:06:33.900 And it was an urgency to learn.

00:06:36.560 What is this?

00:06:38.680 What is the covenant that is so woven into the fabric of America?

00:06:45.640 The Abrahamic covenant.

00:06:47.760 I know God would bless Abraham and his offspring and he'd be there, you know, for them.

00:06:53.980 They'd live under his protection and guidance and they would worship him.

00:06:58.300 He would be their God and, and, and his people.

00:07:05.720 It worked for Israel until they failed to remember it.

00:07:08.820 And then they were destroyed and scattered, but in his time, the promise of restoration was fulfilled.

00:07:15.420 No other country ever in the history of civilization has ever been promised to be destroyed, then promised to be restored.

00:07:24.020 And thousands of years later, it happens.

00:07:28.580 It's language and its people are still returning to its original land.

00:07:36.560 That's because they were a covenant nation.

00:07:38.980 Now, America, historically, is a covenant nation.

00:07:44.340 The pilgrims actually came here to establish what they called the New Jerusalem.

00:07:49.480 They actually thought that they were spiritually completing the journey that began at the Red Sea.

00:07:54.700 And so they said, you will be our God and we will be your people.

00:08:01.140 They made a promise.

00:08:02.680 They made a covenant.

00:08:05.560 This was later renewed when George Washington first took his first oath of office.

00:08:11.380 There in lower Manhattan, he raised his hand to the square and his hand on the Bible.

00:08:16.680 And he swore to protect and defend the Constitution.

00:08:21.240 So help me God.

00:08:22.440 And then he said, everybody, we're going to church.

00:08:25.900 And they walked down the street to the church where he prayed for hours on his knees.

00:08:33.180 Prayed for hours.

00:08:34.440 He made a covenant again.

00:08:39.380 In America's darkest time with Abraham Lincoln.

00:08:44.260 Abraham Lincoln said, I wasn't a Christian when I was elected.

00:08:48.020 My son died and I didn't become a Christian.

00:08:52.040 But at Gettysburg, he broke.

00:08:55.740 And he would finally obey God and realize that it's not about saving the Union.

00:09:02.640 It is about freeing his people.

00:09:07.100 So even if it meant the end of the Union, he would free all of the slaves.

00:09:11.160 That fall, right after Gettysburg, he traveled up there and he gave a quick speech.

00:09:18.140 And he thought, no, he's going to remember this.

00:09:20.120 In fact, he gave the speech away and it was eventually thrown away.

00:09:22.780 But about a month later, he asked Congress to pass a Thanksgiving proclamation to rededicate ourselves to the American covenant.

00:09:33.740 It passed and people all over the country prayed and humbled themselves and fasted and dedicated their lives.

00:09:40.520 Their lives, their fortunes, their sacred honor.

00:09:43.120 They dedicated it once again to God's will.

00:09:47.720 Before Gettysburg, before this happened, the Union only won one battle.

00:09:53.540 But after the covenant was made, we only lost one battle.

00:10:01.400 I hate the word covenant.

00:10:03.300 Honestly, all of this stuff makes me so uncomfortable.

00:10:07.100 But covenants, what is it?

00:10:12.140 Covenants are just promises that actually mean something.

00:10:16.180 When you're in a covenant relationship, there's no getting out of it.

00:10:20.320 It's a word that basically means that we say what we do and we do what we say.

00:10:26.640 And everything that we do and say in this world actually matters.

00:10:30.560 We've come to a place in our country now where we expect that most people are just lying to us all the time.

00:10:37.800 Our president is lying.

00:10:40.040 All the time.

00:10:42.260 So it was the last one.

00:10:43.600 The one before that.

00:10:44.700 The one before that.

00:10:46.400 Our media is lying to us.

00:10:49.340 They have a credibility rating, I think, in the teens.

00:10:53.040 I think it might be 12.

00:10:56.840 In our own lives.

00:10:58.060 Maybe our spouse is lying or we're lying to our spouse or worse yet.

00:11:05.900 And this happens to all of us from time to time.

00:11:08.620 We lie to ourselves.

00:11:11.180 And with all of this lying, truth no longer matters.

00:11:15.860 But you cannot have society or a civilization without truth.

00:11:22.580 So much in America is utterly meaningless.

00:11:26.660 It's why our kids are killing themselves.

00:11:31.260 It's why people are losing hope.

00:11:35.840 Because nothing's real.

00:11:38.020 Nothing's authentic.

00:11:39.720 I can't trust anything.

00:11:43.560 And if that's the way it is and everything is meaningless, then why go on?

00:11:47.940 I think people are starving for something real.

00:11:54.680 They're starving for the truth.

00:11:58.360 And I've only found that in one place.

00:12:00.720 And it's not politics.

00:12:02.080 It's not my job.

00:12:03.720 It's not the things that make me happy.

00:12:07.000 It's not the things that I have.

00:12:09.280 It's none of that, really.

00:12:10.380 Honestly, the only meaning that really lasts for me, the only thing that grows deeper and more meaningful, my wife, my children, my relationships.

00:12:23.600 The opportunity for each of us to be who we are, who we were born to be.

00:12:32.460 You know, we throw words around like freedom and liberty.

00:12:37.080 What does that mean?

00:12:39.280 Honestly.

00:12:40.620 Oh, freedom.

00:12:42.620 What does that mean?

00:12:47.480 To me, it means opportunity.

00:12:50.120 To speak, to worship, to live, to work, and better myself and our children's lives.

00:13:00.340 We wrote them down in this country as rights.

00:13:03.920 And we also said they come from God.

00:13:08.200 All of the things that have any meaning at all, all come from God.

00:13:15.320 They're all eternal.

00:13:16.900 If you're doing something today and it doesn't have any connection to the eternal, why are you doing it?

00:13:24.220 Or if you're doing something that doesn't have any connection to the eternal, then why don't you pause before you do it and find the connection?

00:13:34.240 Because that's the only thing that you're going to do today that will last and be meaningful.

00:13:38.920 All these truths that we now deny are eternal.

00:13:48.480 And that is why we're in this epic battle of good versus evil now.

00:13:53.300 This is why we, thank God, peacefully fight today.

00:13:59.180 And nobody's articulating this.

00:14:02.000 We're fighting against something every day.

00:14:04.280 I'm so sick and tired of it.

00:14:10.660 I'm honestly just tired of it.

00:14:18.380 I'm not going to fight against anything anymore.

00:14:21.920 And I don't think I ever really have, but I don't vocalize it enough.

00:14:26.640 I'm not fighting against.

00:14:28.780 I am fighting for the things that we used to find self-evident.

00:14:33.300 I'm fighting for the truth.

00:14:36.760 And sometimes that comes at a high cost.

00:14:39.800 Sometimes the truth really hurts.

00:14:43.300 But it will set you free.

00:14:47.140 I'm desperate for something that actually matters.

00:14:50.360 And I have to tell you, I'm going to vote.

00:14:52.500 I recommend everybody.

00:14:53.660 I'll go in my car and I'll rent a bus if I have to.

00:14:56.840 And I'll pick people up and take them to the polls.

00:14:59.280 So they can honestly and legally vote.

00:15:01.860 But that doesn't give me enough meaning.

00:15:10.720 I'm going to tell you a couple of stories today.

00:15:12.480 We have a couple of guests.

00:15:14.340 Today, I would ask that you would listen to the entire podcast.

00:15:17.220 Because we're going to do something in 40 days from now.

00:15:23.840 And I'm starting today, 40 days, 40 nights before.

00:15:29.240 Because I want you to truly understand what I'm going to ask you to do in 40 days.

00:15:34.860 I take this topic extraordinarily seriously.

00:15:40.400 But please know, I don't take myself seriously in this.

00:15:43.800 I mean, I'm an alcoholic DJ.

00:15:47.500 That's what I mean.

00:15:48.360 That's who I am.

00:15:49.160 I'm not a preacher.

00:15:49.920 I'm not a scholar.

00:15:50.820 I am certainly no moral authority.

00:15:53.220 I'm not here to convert you to preach or drill down on doctrine.

00:15:57.080 It's none of that.

00:16:00.280 I'm a dad.

00:16:02.520 I'm a husband.

00:16:04.600 I'm an American that sees the revolution has come to us.

00:16:10.840 It's already begun.

00:16:13.720 I pray for you every day before the show.

00:16:18.060 I ask God, tell me what people need.

00:16:20.920 Tell me what you need.

00:16:23.240 How can I help you?

00:16:24.340 How can I serve you?

00:16:25.460 And so today, I begin something that nobody in their right mind would do.

00:16:35.980 I'm responding to an answered prayer.

00:16:40.760 And I'm going to do something that all business and logic and reason would say,

00:16:50.420 that's not going to work.

00:16:52.500 But everything eternal tells me, please, join me on this journey.

00:17:00.920 More in a minute.

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00:18:20.840 So, you know, we have a flaw in America, at least in the last hundred or so years.

00:18:36.540 And that is, we're a nation that was built on the Judeo-Christian principles.

00:18:43.160 And nobody ever really had a problem with that.

00:18:45.980 But we took one of our responsibilities, if you're going to have rights, you have responsibilities.

00:18:53.620 And if you're going to say freedom of speech and freedom for religion, then you need to let other people worship and pray and do what they do.

00:19:02.520 And you have to be like, dude, I think, you know, I mean, praying mantis is not what you think.

00:19:10.040 But I mean, that's what you want to do with the bug.

00:19:12.800 Okay.

00:19:13.200 We have a responsibility to do that.

00:19:17.260 But what has happened is we have, it has been weaponized against us to where we said we're not going to talk about religion and politics.

00:19:24.860 No, no, don't say a word.

00:19:26.180 No, say a word.

00:19:28.660 And I know it's uncomfortable in public because it's personal to all of us.

00:19:33.620 I'm not saying, you know what, Sally, you are a sinner and you're going to burn an ale.

00:19:39.780 No, I mean, I am struggling today.

00:19:44.700 I am struggling today.

00:19:46.400 And I need God.

00:19:48.300 It leaves us out of our comfort zone when we speak.

00:19:52.820 But if we're speaking love, healing, forgiveness, perhaps the most important today of all truth, speak it with boldness.

00:20:02.480 Let everybody point and laugh if they're going to.

00:20:04.960 I don't think they will.

00:20:06.980 Stand alone if you must.

00:20:08.940 But know this, there are more for us than there are against us.

00:20:15.620 And they're not really for us.

00:20:17.380 They're for God.

00:20:19.420 God's not on our side.

00:20:21.140 We have to work to be on his.

00:20:23.400 How many times have we worked to be on God's side?

00:20:27.400 It's not about politics.

00:20:30.460 It's not about parties.

00:20:31.780 It's about truth.

00:20:33.760 And the first truth is, who are you?

00:20:38.900 Who do you answer to?

00:20:42.620 Who is your God?

00:20:44.900 If Americans would just answer those, ponder them for a week, answer those three questions, the world would change tomorrow.

00:20:53.580 Who am I?

00:20:54.660 There's lots of ways you can describe yourself.

00:20:58.960 And people describe themselves all the time.

00:21:02.640 I'm nobody.

00:21:03.620 I'm worthless.

00:21:04.360 I just keep making mistakes.

00:21:05.900 I can't make it.

00:21:07.540 You're describing.

00:21:08.340 Those are all lies.

00:21:09.620 Those are all lies you're telling yourself.

00:21:12.160 That's not who you are.

00:21:15.220 If God is our father and God has a kingdom, that means he's a king, which makes you a prince or a princess.

00:21:23.180 Which means you're in a royal line that has powers.

00:21:28.720 And he's given them all to you.

00:21:30.800 And he wants to give everything to you.

00:21:32.540 Just like every dad does.

00:21:34.660 But you keep talking yourself out of it.

00:21:38.040 Because I can't face him.

00:21:39.780 I made too many mistakes.

00:21:41.920 Wait.

00:21:42.860 What?

00:21:43.140 That's one of his first principles.

00:21:48.660 I'm okay.

00:21:49.920 I sent you down there.

00:21:51.000 I knew you were going to make mistakes.

00:21:53.000 I knew it.

00:21:54.940 That's why I gave you this gift.

00:21:57.780 All you have to do is just go, gosh, I'm sorry.

00:21:59.860 God never gives up on any of us.

00:22:06.600 Any of us.

00:22:11.160 I'm bringing in a guy next who everybody thinks, oh, my gosh, he's such a great guy.

00:22:17.140 Boy, what a good man that is.

00:22:20.100 Really?

00:22:20.460 He's just put a new book out.

00:22:23.780 He was here a couple of months ago where he's like, yeah, I had a drinking problem spiraling out of control.

00:22:30.840 And everybody thought I had it in order.

00:22:34.000 Listen to the wisdom of the people who have been there and put that one piece in place first.

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00:24:06.120 You and I are an awful lot alike.

00:24:18.160 We both worry about a future when we all feel like we have nothing to rely on.

00:24:23.340 We don't know where to turn because nothing is real.

00:24:27.720 Nothing is solid.

00:24:28.560 Hey, where are you going?

00:24:29.260 What are you doing with your money?

00:24:30.720 You know, I saw the stock market's going down.

00:24:32.700 Bitcoin's going down.

00:24:33.800 Where are you putting your money?

00:24:34.680 I don't know.

00:24:36.080 You know, gold's a pretty good idea.

00:24:38.160 Yeah, really?

00:24:39.020 Is it?

00:24:39.520 Because I think I read some places, the deeper you bury it, the more it'll slip through your

00:24:43.580 fingers.

00:24:43.880 I mean, I have no idea what tomorrow is going to bring.

00:24:47.720 Everything that I thought was solid is now liquid.

00:24:50.860 When our money, our food, our government, our culture has let us all down, what then?

00:24:57.280 The only reason that I'm not in a ditch somewhere or in total despair is because of two things.

00:25:04.740 My wife, who taught me about God.

00:25:07.660 And I know that God isn't going to let me down.

00:25:13.180 And I need that.

00:25:14.260 And it's not that he, it's not like, you know, Glenn, now, you know, you'd say you're a Christian.

00:25:18.360 So now everything's going to be good.

00:25:20.440 It's not like that at all.

00:25:21.940 I need to know that God is there.

00:25:25.900 But when things go poorly and I'm like, hey, I'm doing everything I'm supposed to do.

00:25:30.900 And everything is like all of a sudden, like a black abyss.

00:25:33.840 You're like, wait a minute.

00:25:35.340 Oh yeah, I'm a Christian.

00:25:36.340 Remember, I'm a Christian.

00:25:38.000 That doesn't work that way.

00:25:40.260 When you really become mature in your faith, you know, when things go poorly, it's not that just this too will pass.

00:25:47.660 I shut up with that.

00:25:48.920 I hurt.

00:25:50.480 But what gives you hope is that, you know, even the worst stuff that you've done or experienced is going to be used in miraculous ways.

00:26:02.140 You just got to get out of the way because Glennon ain't all about you.

00:26:05.900 And I hate that.

00:26:07.860 It's about eternal truths.

00:26:12.160 A guy who has been up and down and down at his highest point, Max Lucado, is with us.

00:26:19.700 Hello, Max.

00:26:20.440 How are you?

00:26:20.980 Man, you can keep talking all day, Glenn.

00:26:25.940 I wanted to shout amen a few times, but I didn't know if I would interrupt you.

00:26:31.700 You're right on target, my friend.

00:26:33.840 Thank you.

00:26:34.520 How do we convince people who have not experienced, because I know you have, Max, you've experienced the reassurance, the knowingness that God's got you either way.

00:26:50.440 And no matter what happens, it's like I can look at death and somebody dying and go, not that, you know, the normal, oh, well, they're in a better place.

00:27:01.680 I know that.

00:27:02.760 But actually having faith, I'm going to see him again.

00:27:06.260 It's all going to be good.

00:27:08.420 How do you teach that?

00:27:10.780 Yeah, and it needs to be taught, because we're living in a day of despair.

00:27:17.180 Did you know the suicide rate in America has increased 24% since 1999?

00:27:24.600 You know, if a disease saw a 24% spike, we would call it an epidemic.

00:27:31.120 Yes, we would.

00:27:31.880 So how do we explain the increase?

00:27:34.140 I mean, we've never been more educated.

00:27:36.480 We have tools of technology our parents would only dream of.

00:27:40.280 We're saturated with entertainment and recreation, and yet more people are orchestrating their own deaths than ever.

00:27:48.940 And I think the answer is people are dying for lack of hope.

00:27:54.240 You know, secularism just sucks the hope out of the heart.

00:27:58.960 The idea that there is no God, or if there is a God, he's distant.

00:28:03.800 That secularistic viewpoint or worldview reduces the world to just a few decades on Earth.

00:28:10.280 Just that dash between the dates on the gravestone.

00:28:15.040 And people believe that this world is as good as it gets, and let's face it, it's not that good.

00:28:19.600 But people of the promise, people who begin to build their lives on the promises of God, have a huge advantage.

00:28:30.060 And that is when problems surface, they can be heard telling themselves, but I read something in the Scripture.

00:28:37.600 Or, but God told me.

00:28:39.540 Or, but I know that God got me through this before.

00:28:42.600 They make a deliberate choice to build their lives on the promises of God, not the circumstances of life.

00:28:53.640 And as a result, they have a leg up.

00:28:57.840 They have an advantage.

00:29:00.580 They have an inside track.

00:29:03.140 Because they lift up their eyes, and they get hope, find hope, outside of this world.

00:29:09.440 So I'm all over what you're saying, Glenn.

00:29:12.260 Thank you so much for saying it.

00:29:13.960 So, you know, I just remembered Ben Sherwood is a friend of mine.

00:29:18.220 He used to be a producer at ABC, and that's when I got to know him.

00:29:21.360 And then he eventually ended up being the head of ABC for a while, or ABC Disney, I think.

00:29:27.280 And he wrote a book called The Survivors Club.

00:29:30.320 And what he found in this, and he wasn't taking it from a, you know, spiritual point of view when he started the book.

00:29:37.340 He wasn't looking for something.

00:29:38.420 And he wanted to know, what do all survivors have in common?

00:29:41.600 And he found survivors have hope in God.

00:29:46.480 And if they have that hope, no matter how bad it gets, they survive when most don't.

00:29:57.080 Absolutely.

00:29:58.400 That narrows it down right there.

00:30:00.760 And one of the great discoveries that people who attempt to find faith discover is that we have a God who makes promises and who keeps promises.

00:30:15.020 And understanding how our God is a covenant-making and covenant-keeping God is just such a source of strength.

00:30:26.040 I read one person who spent a year and a half attempting to tally up the number of promises that God made to humanity.

00:30:35.700 His list, 7,487 promises.

00:30:41.100 Promises about fear, promises about sin, promises about death, promises about provision.

00:30:49.300 Just every single area of life.

00:30:52.160 God has spoken a promise.

00:30:53.720 He's spoken a promise.

00:30:54.760 Give us some examples of promises that he has kept.

00:31:01.560 Yes, sir.

00:31:02.320 Absolutely.

00:31:03.540 When he created the earth, he said, and God said, Genesis chapter 1 says, and God said, and God said, and God said, and God said, and every time God said something, something happened.

00:31:17.400 So, and God said, that dzisiaj says, and God said, is Nothing, nothing to until the moment of sight, and God said again.

00:31:26.920 And because our God keeps his promises, the fact of the matter is, his promises are irrevocable because he's unchanging.

00:31:36.200 He's not victimized by moods or weather.

00:31:38.680 He's faithful. He's strong. He never over promises and under delivers. Romans 4, 21 says God is able

00:31:46.940 to do whatever he promises. Hebrews 6, 18 says it's impossible for God to lie. Doesn't say it's

00:31:55.000 unlikely that God will lie or improbable, but it is impossible. He cannot lie. A rock cannot swim.

00:32:02.520 A hippo cannot fly. A butterfly cannot eat a bowl of spaghetti. I can't sleep on the cloud and God

00:32:08.980 cannot lie. So he never exaggerates. He never manipulates. He never flatters. He just doesn't

00:32:15.140 break promises. And we're seeing, I know you gave a speech for one for Israel Ministries, and you said

00:32:24.540 promises God made to Israel thousands of years ago are being fulfilled in our generation.

00:32:29.420 Most people are not, that's not making news. Can you give us an example of the promises there

00:32:35.740 that are coming true? Exactly. Well, God promised Abraham seed and soil. He said through your seed

00:32:46.420 or through your lineage, the entire world would be blessed. And boy, is that not a promise that's

00:32:53.620 been kept? Yes. I mean, look, we have the Bible. We have the church. We have Jesus Christ.

00:33:01.720 I think we have much reason from the Jews as well, the way they study and debate and wrestle. And I

00:33:08.780 think that stands out. And look at all the Nobel Prize winners that are Jewish. Yeah. It's just the

00:33:15.160 most extraordinary nation in history. And they're the only nation who has had their land taken from

00:33:21.900 them and then returned to them. And that's the second part of that promise. And that is soil.

00:33:27.580 God promised Abraham a region, a territory. And in 1948, when they were reinstated or when they were

00:33:36.500 regathered to their homeland, I think we saw one of the greatest miracles in all of history.

00:33:42.620 And for centuries, theologians would read those promises and say, well, God can't keep that one.

00:33:48.380 In fact, I think one of the reasons that anti-Semitism got so much fuel in the fire is

00:33:57.180 because people thought, well, God made a promise to the Jews and he's not going to keep it. But then

00:34:02.440 in 1948, he kept it. It's just extraordinary. It's a super sign that God keeps his promises and

00:34:11.180 he'll continue to keep those promises.

00:34:13.100 So I'm starting today a 40-day devotional series that will teach biblical covenants that I think

00:34:20.780 it's the only way to combat total despair and also to restore our nation. We have to turn towards that.

00:34:31.980 Yes, sir.

00:34:33.080 Any thought on explaining a covenant and how it can be uniquely used to hold our country together?

00:34:41.640 Well, God makes unilateral and bilateral covenants. He made a unilateral covenant with

00:34:50.380 Abraham, the one that we just spoke. He made a bilateral covenant with Adam and Eve and they

00:34:57.200 broke it. You know, he said, you can have all of this creation, all of this paradise, just don't

00:35:03.000 eat from that one tree. And that was an agreement. They, you know, their lives and all of human history

00:35:09.420 would have been different had they honored that covenant. And so it is with us today. God makes

00:35:15.540 covenants with us. He talks to us about the value of life, about respecting one another. And these are

00:35:22.480 conditional covenants. And if we break those covenants, if we violate, then there's consequences.

00:35:29.240 Not that he doesn't love us, but he is a good father. And the good father says, here's where,

00:35:35.320 here's the path you should walk. And if you get off of it, it's not going to be pleasant.

00:35:40.000 Right. Not, not as a punishment, but as a, a natural consequence. Yes. Natural consequence. Yeah.

00:35:46.500 And what you're urging us to do is go back to these basic covenants. And, uh, and, and when we do,

00:35:53.760 and if we do, if we repent and turn and turn back to God, then we can expect blessings. But if we

00:36:01.260 continue to isolate God or shove God out, uh, there will be burdens. It's, it's really just

00:36:07.340 that simple. Max, my friend, I, I would be remiss if I didn't say hello from my sister. She is,

00:36:14.240 you are just a giant in her, in her spiritual life and, and, uh, mine as well. And I just love you so

00:36:20.200 much. Thank you, Max. Thank you, my friend. I appreciate it. And go get them. You're doing the

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00:39:26.840 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We're glad you're here. Uh, today I, I, uh, we're starting

00:39:33.420 something that, uh, we'll take offline for 40 days, 40 nights. I ask you to join me with this.

00:39:38.960 And in 40 days, we're going to do another show, um, on the covenant. We're going to ask you to

00:39:44.240 participate in something, but it's not about theology. It's not really about religion. It's

00:39:49.000 not about agreeing on doctrine today. In fact, isn't even about thinking at all. We need to think

00:39:56.700 better in America. Yes, but we need to act better in America. We need to agree on what it looks like

00:40:04.960 to be a child of God, how we treat each other, what we do to each other. We could all run around

00:40:12.780 agreeing in our minds about God, but if we're still unjust, cruel, hateful, untruthful, hopeless,

00:40:19.880 then we're part of the problem. We're not really, we're not really God's kids. We have to figure

00:40:27.700 out how we want to live and then stand up for those things. Instead of fighting against, let's fight

00:40:36.080 for the things that we know are true. That's what today is all about. Today's the launch of a 40 day,

00:40:42.920 40 night devotional about what it means when God makes a covenant. How do we join? How do we

00:40:49.740 keep it? What if we break it? And most importantly, what does God want me to do? You may not be a God

00:40:56.860 person. You may be somebody who's like, I don't know. I mean, yeah, I believe there's a God, but

00:41:01.340 that's not all for me. I ask you to join us. Just join us. Nobody's going to jam religion down your

00:41:08.220 throat. Just join us. We have the kind of a step-by-step, I guess you would call it devotional.

00:41:17.440 I hate that word. But that's what it is. It's a step-by-step kind of how-to, and it's titled

00:41:24.080 The First 40 Days, Seek God and Restore Everything. So the first five days, because there's one for

00:41:30.900 every day, and we're going to release them on Mondays. So you'll have enough from Monday to

00:41:36.800 Sunday, and then every Monday we'll release the next week. The first five days, which will take you to

00:41:42.340 Monday, are already available at glennbeck.com slash first 40. That's glennbeck.com slash first

00:41:50.200 four zero. And you'll find it right on the front page of glennbeck.com. Look for the pilgrims or

00:41:56.900 something cool like that. 40 days, 40 nights to prepare us to come back to God. And at the end of

00:42:04.560 40 days, all of us who have gone through and searched, and maybe you don't have anything to

00:42:10.600 work on. I got a ton. I could use maybe, I mean, I'm going to get to the end and go, can I have an

00:42:14.960 extra 10 days? It has to be done now. We're going to do something special together and ask you to

00:42:22.440 participate. And it doesn't happen without you. Please do it with a friend, get a group together,

00:42:28.200 talk to your church, do it solo if you need to. But let's go through these 40 days together.

00:42:34.260 glennbeck.com slash first four zero. glennbeck.com slash first 40.

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00:45:01.940 What you're about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the

00:45:03.360 is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:45:10.280 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:45:14.760 And hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:45:18.080 Today is a special different show.

00:45:20.620 We'll be back to regular programming tomorrow,

00:45:22.220 but today is a day that we learn what really can save America.

00:45:30.220 I don't know about you, but the last few weeks have just been brutal on me.

00:45:34.800 It's like every day the news comes out and you're like,

00:45:37.520 oh, well, that's good. That happened.

00:45:39.880 And you start to get to the place where you like have no hope.

00:45:43.340 Too late. Did you see what Newsweek printed yesterday?

00:45:46.780 Newsweek printed that DOJ is making a list of all of the Donald Trump supporters

00:45:51.800 because they're saying they're going to be the ones that cause violence in the next 12 months.

00:45:57.660 And they're trying to figure out this is in Newsweek.

00:46:00.680 And they're trying to figure out how do we how do we how do we name these people

00:46:05.440 without saying that we're just targeting people who are voting for one particular candidate?

00:46:11.020 You don't because in America we don't make those kinds of lists dummies.

00:46:16.760 And so you hear this and you're like, how are you?

00:46:18.980 What are I mean?

00:46:20.960 Well, what are we going to do?

00:46:24.260 What are we going to do?

00:46:24.880 I'm trying to pay the bills.

00:46:27.120 They're targeting.

00:46:28.140 What do I do?

00:46:29.500 Today, we have a real answer.

00:46:32.440 We begin in 60 seconds.

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00:47:18.000 You know, we have 35,000 veterans that are currently living on the street.

00:47:23.040 It is reprehensible.

00:47:25.980 But if we want the government to do less, it means we should do more.

00:47:30.120 And these people, they guard.

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00:47:55.660 Okay.

00:47:57.140 Today, we're going to talk about something called The Covenant.

00:48:02.060 Because in 40 days, we are going to do another special show.

00:48:07.240 It will be right before Thanksgiving.

00:48:10.800 And our pilgrims made a covenant.

00:48:12.760 Our founders made a covenant.

00:48:16.640 Our General George Washington, as he became president on that first day,

00:48:21.400 he prayed for hours in lower Manhattan after he took the oath of office,

00:48:25.640 and he made a covenant.

00:48:26.900 Abraham Lincoln made one after Gettysburg.

00:48:29.160 We are a covenant nation.

00:48:31.660 And there's all kinds of different covenants that you can read about.

00:48:37.680 But this one is very, very specific.

00:48:40.840 And I'm sorry, but I'm out of, I can give you a lot of small answers.

00:48:46.320 Hey, go out and vote.

00:48:47.220 And that's really important.

00:48:49.560 Because if we don't go out and vote, we, we, we're, I mean, go out and monitor your voting spaces.

00:48:57.580 Because I do think something fishy.

00:49:00.860 You got to do all of those things.

00:49:03.000 But those are the small things.

00:49:04.360 We've forgotten the principles, the bedrock.

00:49:08.500 Those things are the ones that we really have to work on if we want to save ourselves and save our families and save our country.

00:49:18.900 Michaela is a, how long have you worked for me, Michaela?

00:49:22.880 Almost two years.

00:49:24.280 Wow.

00:49:25.260 Is that right?

00:49:25.940 I think, yeah.

00:49:26.340 I think it is.

00:49:27.180 I think it is.

00:49:28.200 Michaela is kind of a special programming producer at times.

00:49:33.220 I assign her with, she's the happiest person I've ever met.

00:49:38.820 She's also one of the most deeply spiritual people I've ever met.

00:49:43.040 And she's always in our meetings when we're talking about death and destruction.

00:49:45.920 And she's like, she'll wear like a, no, I was going to say a rainbow shirt, but not like that.

00:49:50.520 Like a Noah rainbow shirt.

00:49:52.660 And she'd be like, but hey, we still have each other.

00:49:55.500 And you're like, shut up, Michaela.

00:49:56.660 Anyway, so I assigned this to you, I don't know how long ago, a couple of months ago, at least.

00:50:03.580 And, and so explain what a covenant is.

00:50:08.500 Cause there's, give me the historic, there's like four historic covenants, right?

00:50:12.860 So a covenant is, it sounds like this big biblical spiritual word, but it's not.

00:50:17.580 In the past, people were making covenants all the time.

00:50:20.000 It's just simply a pact or a treaty between two parties with mutual expectations.

00:50:25.320 So you and I could make a covenant right now over something, over anything.

00:50:29.720 Two tribes could make a covenant.

00:50:31.420 Kings could make a covenant.

00:50:33.460 But in the Bible, which as you said, I'm pretty obsessed with in the Bible, God makes covenants

00:50:39.820 with his people.

00:50:40.660 So those are very special, much more serious covenants.

00:50:44.520 Yeah, because we live in a place, you make a marriage covenant.

00:50:48.040 Yes.

00:50:48.420 Okay.

00:50:49.220 And we're like, well, I just get out of that.

00:50:51.380 No, no consequence.

00:50:52.840 I mean, there are all kinds of natural consequences, especially if you have children.

00:50:58.580 But this is different.

00:51:00.000 A covenant with God is one that kind of has some serious consequences.

00:51:06.060 It's eternal.

00:51:07.020 It's not a pinky promise.

00:51:09.800 He's got a mighty big pinky.

00:51:11.420 Right.

00:51:11.780 You don't want to try to get out of this.

00:51:13.040 Okay.

00:51:13.380 So give me the historic ones from the Bible.

00:51:15.540 So in the Bible, you don't make a covenant.

00:51:19.240 You don't seal a covenant.

00:51:20.240 The word in Hebrew is you cut a covenant.

00:51:22.740 So like you cut a deal, the same kind of phrasing because of this kind of spooky ancient ritual

00:51:28.740 where you would take an animal, kill it, cut up its parts, divide them into a kind of pathway,

00:51:35.060 and the two people making the covenant would walk down the path together.

00:51:38.260 That's how they'd ratify the covenant.

00:51:39.940 I would just like to say, anybody who thinks they have it bad, you're living at a time we don't do that.

00:51:48.120 No, we pinky promise.

00:51:49.140 Yeah.

00:51:49.720 Yeah.

00:51:50.240 I mean, hey, bring your dog over too.

00:51:53.300 I got a deal to make with you.

00:51:55.000 Holy cow.

00:51:55.960 So that gives you an idea of the gravity of it.

00:51:59.040 There was this kind of bloody, costly process.

00:52:01.520 So you didn't just trivially make promises with people.

00:52:04.100 Yeah.

00:52:04.540 And you didn't trivially make promises with God.

00:52:07.640 God actually even uses that ritual in the Bible, in this passage with Abraham that seems so spooky.

00:52:13.940 But when you understand at the time, everyone was making covenants.

00:52:17.080 Because he made one when Abraham was asleep.

00:52:19.780 Yes.

00:52:20.220 Right?

00:52:20.520 Yes.

00:52:20.780 Okay.

00:52:21.160 So the Abrahamic covenant is called an unconditional covenant.

00:52:25.960 Which means that God makes it with himself, and you're the beneficiary of it.

00:52:29.320 I love that kind of covenant.

00:52:30.320 Yeah, that's the kind we don't want.

00:52:31.180 I'm open for that.

00:52:32.380 Yes.

00:52:32.580 I'm open.

00:52:33.160 There's a few of those.

00:52:33.840 The one with Noah's like that, which is we're never going to flood the earth again, no matter how bad we are.

00:52:38.000 Because if not, you can imagine we'd have a flood again by now, for sure.

00:52:40.720 There'd be a couple floods.

00:52:41.960 But luckily, there's not any, because God promised there's not going to be any.

00:52:45.060 Same with Abraham.

00:52:45.700 He puts Abraham to sleep, and he sends this flaming cauldron and this torch through the animal parts instead of Abraham.

00:52:52.720 And that sounds so spooky in Harry Potter-like, right?

00:52:55.480 But it's actually not.

00:52:57.640 It is, and it is a little Harry Potter-esque.

00:53:00.360 But what it is is a visual representation of the fact that Abraham's just a beneficiary of this covenant.

00:53:04.760 He's not even walking through it.

00:53:05.820 Abraham's passed out, right?

00:53:07.800 And what you learn in those is that God is faithful.

00:53:11.880 What makes, I know you said I'm so dorky about this, Glenn, but what makes covenants cool to me, and that, wow, you don't expect that sentence to come out of your mouth.

00:53:21.300 Yeah, see?

00:53:22.460 No, it's just, you were talking about this, Glenn.

00:53:24.940 Well, I believe God is real, and that's what makes me wake up every morning.

00:53:28.620 It's because I believe that God's real, and I believe that God wants all of us to be doing his will, that he has a plan.

00:53:33.980 All of us have a purpose in this life.

00:53:35.640 I really believe that.

00:53:36.480 I do, too.

00:53:36.780 And I think if we do that, that life will be better.

00:53:40.360 And I don't mean just, like, superficially better.

00:53:42.580 I mean that life will be more meaningful.

00:53:45.160 I have to tell you, I've learned so much in my life, and one is what's important.

00:53:52.600 Yeah.

00:53:52.980 And I remember I was in my 20s, and I was very wealthy, and, you know, I did not grow up wealthy.

00:53:59.460 I just got into radio when I was very young, and then I was, you know, somewhat successful.

00:54:05.620 And so, in the 1980s, you know, I was making lots of money, and most of it went to cocaine.

00:54:13.080 But I became my job.

00:54:17.420 I became my car.

00:54:19.320 I became those things.

00:54:21.280 And I remember I lost my job, and the last thing to go was my car was repossessed, and I cried.

00:54:26.780 I cried as that thing was going away.

00:54:29.180 And now I have nice things, but if it all goes away, I don't really, it's okay.

00:54:35.040 It's all right.

00:54:35.440 It doesn't matter.

00:54:35.960 I mean, it's nice to have, but it's not, that's not where my happiness is.

00:54:42.860 I was never addicted to cocaine, but.

00:54:45.880 I didn't say I was addicted to cocaine.

00:54:47.860 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:54:48.600 I'm not, I've never been a cocaine user.

00:54:50.840 Yes.

00:54:51.300 But I think I told you this, Glenn, when I interviewed, that I had a period of time in my life I was really sick.

00:54:56.380 And that's when I had a similar, I think, to your addiction.

00:54:59.920 I felt like I hit a kind of rock bottom being very ill for over a couple of years.

00:55:04.260 And that's when I was like, you know what?

00:55:05.580 I have to have God.

00:55:06.840 I have to have Him.

00:55:07.840 And that's what's turned me into this really happy person.

00:55:10.140 It wasn't, everybody thinks I just was like born super.

00:55:13.400 I have a feeling you have a little of that in you.

00:55:15.640 Yeah.

00:55:15.980 And so I got sick for a while, and God was there the whole time.

00:55:19.660 When I could have been mourning about something physical in my body, right?

00:55:24.640 But I had God.

00:55:25.320 And so these covenants that make me excited is because they don't just teach us about God, but they teach you what God wants from you.

00:55:34.980 So when we're all walking around like, what should I do with my life?

00:55:37.200 It's like, look, read it right here.

00:55:38.980 You want a purpose?

00:55:39.940 You want something to do, which we all do.

00:55:41.700 I know we do.

00:55:42.660 You can read it right there.

00:55:43.700 You can read it and find out the purpose of your whole life.

00:55:46.400 So wait a minute.

00:55:47.500 Let's go back to Abraham.

00:55:49.000 Yeah.

00:55:49.220 Let me just seal this up here.

00:55:50.680 Yes.

00:55:50.880 So this is the only time a story includes a guy who's passed out with animal parts all around him and flaming torches.

00:55:59.680 And he doesn't wake up, you know, with the police knocking at the door going, dude.

00:56:05.680 And he's like, I don't know.

00:56:07.540 These animals weren't here when I went to sleep.

00:56:09.020 So it turns out well for him, but that's a, that is a unconditional.

00:56:15.580 Yes.

00:56:16.220 There are conditionals and that's the ones that George Washington and our pilgrims and Abraham Lincoln made.

00:56:24.140 These are the most common.

00:56:25.160 They're if then covenants.

00:56:26.480 Yes.

00:56:26.760 If you obey, you'll be blessed.

00:56:28.820 If you disobey, you'll be cursed.

00:56:30.220 If you drop, if you jump off a cliff, then you'll die.

00:56:33.900 These are the kind of.

00:56:35.740 That's a good one.

00:56:36.560 That's a good, I haven't read that in my Bible, but that's a good one should be in there.

00:56:40.560 Well, so, and that's, they set up a natural law, like the founders talk about that.

00:56:44.360 If you, if you lie, your life will become extremely complicated or if you become addicted to something, your life will become complicated.

00:56:52.820 He's trying to warn you.

00:56:54.100 God is trying to warn you about the natural consequences, but there are rules to stay in these kind of covenants.

00:56:58.540 So the covenant with Moses, when the 10 commandments come down, that's a conditional covenant.

00:57:02.660 Because God's saying, you got to hold on to these principles.

00:57:06.040 There are, every covenant comes with a sign.

00:57:07.700 We have the rainbow that promises us for the Abraham, a covenant variant theme.

00:57:11.660 It was circumcision.

00:57:12.800 And then the sign of the covenant with Moses is obedience.

00:57:16.820 So say you go to a town and everyone in the town is a murdering liar, except for one guy.

00:57:21.780 You know, that one guy is in covenant with God.

00:57:24.140 And you can tell because you look at him and he's not a murdering liar.

00:57:27.400 Maybe he's honest and he's truthful and he's good and compassionate, all of the fruits of the spirit.

00:57:32.300 That's how you can tell somebody is in covenant with God, which is the benefit to people who don't believe in God.

00:57:37.480 Would people believe in God?

00:57:38.720 If you really practice it out, because you, you will be the one person who has not become dishonest.

00:57:44.440 Hopefully, if you hold on to these.

00:57:46.520 Or you're just really good at conning people.

00:57:49.240 That's an alternative as well.

00:57:50.980 Yeah.

00:57:51.240 I mean, you could try.

00:57:52.180 I think God will figure it out, but.

00:57:53.980 Yes.

00:57:54.180 OK, so and it's important when you say, you know, because God's cursed you.

00:58:00.160 It sounds like witchcraft and it's not.

00:58:02.480 It's it is natural consequences.

00:58:06.000 It is like, you know, it's like when you're your mom or dad said, hey, don't touch the stove.

00:58:14.200 And you're like, oh, yeah.

00:58:17.220 Oh, mom and dad didn't make you burn yourself.

00:58:21.220 They were just warning you, don't don't do that's going to leave a mark.

00:58:24.620 It's going to be bad.

00:58:25.640 It's going to be bad.

00:58:27.280 OK, more in just a second.

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01:00:53.740 So I want to bring in Bill Cloud.

01:00:57.120 Who's Bill Cloud?

01:00:58.220 I know he's been on the program, but you are you love Bill.

01:01:01.500 Yes, I am a major fan.

01:01:02.720 Bill Cloud is the founder of Shore Sheen Ministries, and he's the leader of Jacob's Tent Fellowship in Tennessee.

01:01:09.320 Bill, welcome back to the program.

01:01:11.220 Been a long time.

01:01:12.500 It has been a little while, but thank you, Glenn.

01:01:14.600 You bet.

01:01:15.020 So, Bill, let's let's talk about the covenant, and if we can put it into perspective of why it's important today in America for Americans to do this.

01:01:27.600 Do you think you could you could explain that?

01:01:31.260 Well, I'm going to go back to something Michaela said earlier.

01:01:35.280 You know, when there's these different covenants that people make with one another.

01:01:38.880 But in the Bible, you know, it's it's a lot heavier than that.

01:01:43.220 And I want to go back to the idea of the cutting because blood is involved.

01:01:47.980 You know, when you have a covenant in the Bible, almost always you're going to see blood.

01:01:52.220 And the importance of that is because life is in blood.

01:01:57.180 And so, biblically speaking, when you make a covenant with God or when God makes a covenant with you, it's it's basically saying your lives are intertwined with one another.

01:02:05.740 And so in a national context, if we believe that we as a nation are in covenant with God, then our national life is dependent on that relationship with God.

01:02:18.060 And so it's not a good thing when we say we don't want God in school.

01:02:22.440 We don't want God in this.

01:02:23.860 We don't want God in the town square.

01:02:26.720 That's going to have a very, you know, there's going to be consequences of that.

01:02:34.100 And so Americans need to be reawakened to, you know, we just don't use God when we want him and then throw him out when we don't need him or we don't think we need him.

01:02:44.360 You know, this is an everyday thing and our lives are intertwined with this relationship we have with God.

01:02:52.320 So it's, you know, that's a very basic idea, I guess.

01:02:59.120 But when we tell God we don't want him, there is this risk that he's going to say, OK, you're going to turn away from me.

01:03:08.300 I'll turn away from you.

01:03:09.660 Yeah, I think we know how well for those of us who are a little older, maybe, and remember America as she was, we have been greatly, greatly blessed.

01:03:20.920 We're still blessed to even be standing at this point.

01:03:26.240 And it feels as though lately that evil is just permeating everything.

01:03:34.500 It's not that we've just said, hey, we're not interested in you.

01:03:37.180 So we're actually doing things now as a slap in his face, I think.

01:03:44.660 Yes.

01:03:44.900 Yeah, it's like poking him in the eye and saying, I dare you to do anything.

01:03:49.680 And there is a lot of history in the Bible where Israel, who was in covenant with God, by the way, my opinion, there are two unique nations in the history of the world.

01:04:00.140 Yes.

01:04:00.400 Israel, because God made a covenant.

01:04:02.980 He asked Israel to enter into covenant with him.

01:04:05.780 The other being the United States of America, because we ask him to enter into covenant with us.

01:04:12.360 And you've already mentioned several people in American history who reaffirmed that.

01:04:17.800 And by the way, in Hebrew, the name for the United States is Arzot HaBrit, which means the land of the covenant.

01:04:25.880 So there's all these things that kind of underscore the idea that America is unique in that we are in covenant with the God of the Bible.

01:04:35.140 And so then, when we break that covenant, if we decide nationally to turn our backs to him, then there is the risk that he turns his face from us, removes his presence from us, and then that allows another presence, one that wants to steal, wants to kill, wants to destroy.

01:04:53.100 And that's what I believe, Glenn, we're seeing beginning.

01:04:56.620 Well, it's been going on for a while, but now it's really gaining traction.

01:05:00.780 Yeah.

01:05:00.920 And we're at a tipping point, it seems.

01:05:03.860 All right.

01:05:04.500 Hang on just a second, Bill.

01:05:06.440 Bill Cloud joins us.

01:05:08.300 We're going to continue our conversation here in just a minute.

01:05:12.620 By the way, I've asked Congress to pass the same covenant that Abraham Lincoln passed in the 1850s.

01:05:19.980 No one, no one would take it to the floor.

01:05:24.720 No one would take it to the floor.

01:05:28.560 That's how off the path we are.

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01:06:59.100 America has always fought itself.

01:07:10.660 Are we from Jamestown?

01:07:12.180 Are we the pilgrims?

01:07:14.020 Are we from those people that came here from religious persecution or those who came and persecuted people by taking them from Africa or persecuting people here?

01:07:26.520 That has been the great debate.

01:07:28.340 I choose to follow the pilgrim's path.

01:07:31.660 Let me take you back to 1630.

01:07:34.780 It's a group of families that just finished making a compact or covenant.

01:07:39.280 They're aboard the ship named the Arabella.

01:07:42.660 This is the future Massachusetts Bay Colony.

01:07:46.800 It's right in the distance.

01:07:49.800 And John Winthrop delivers a speech that everybody used to know.

01:07:54.240 He said,

01:07:56.120 Thus stands the cause between God and us.

01:08:01.020 We are entered into a covenant with him for this work.

01:08:06.040 We've taken out a commission.

01:08:08.560 The Lord has given us leave to draw our own articles, to make our own promises, to make our own laws.

01:08:16.340 Now, if the Lord shall please to hear us and bring us in peace to the place we desire, then he has ratified this covenant and sealed our commission.

01:08:30.320 Now, think of that.

01:08:32.380 The survival rate of people coming to the Americas was very, very low.

01:08:36.640 He's saying we're making this covenant and if the Lord will hear us and bring us peace so we can just live, then he's ratified his side of the bargain and he will expect a strict performance of the articles and promises contained in it.

01:08:57.380 But if we shall neglect the observation of these articles and promises and we dissemble with our God, fall in to embrace this present world and prosecute our carnal intentions, seeking great things for ourselves and our posterity,

01:09:17.860 the Lord will surely break out in wrath against us and be revenged of such people and make us know the price of the breach of such a covenant.

01:09:34.200 The price of the breach of such a covenant.

01:09:39.020 I know you didn't make a covenant, maybe didn't know, but this is a covenant land.

01:09:45.620 And we are deep in the breach.

01:09:53.300 I have Bill Cloud with me and Bill is a Bible scholar.

01:10:00.300 He is a teacher, an author.

01:10:03.840 Take me to Samson and the covenant with Samson and why that's important to us.

01:10:13.180 Well, before he was born, and this is kind of addressing a point that you just made.

01:10:22.340 Before he was born, his mother was visited by an angel.

01:10:26.120 The Lord said, you're going to have a child.

01:10:28.040 And here's his purpose.

01:10:29.800 He's going to begin to deliver Israel from the oppression of their enemies.

01:10:35.640 And so the very reason for Samson's existence was to bring relief to oppression.

01:10:43.020 And he was to be born a Nazirite, which is a very, there's some very specific components of that vow that a Nazirite would make.

01:10:56.860 But the point here at the beginning is, his reason for existence was to deliver the people, to bring relief from oppression.

01:11:05.140 And he was born into it.

01:11:07.040 He didn't ask to be a Nazirite.

01:11:09.060 He didn't ask for that.

01:11:10.520 It was something that was decided for him.

01:11:12.640 What is a Nazirite?

01:11:14.440 How did you have to live if you were going to be a Nazirite?

01:11:16.900 Well, if you're a Nazirite, you're consecrated.

01:11:20.200 You're set apart.

01:11:21.080 You're kind of above and beyond the rest in terms of your relationship with God and what he requires of you.

01:11:27.960 And you couldn't, for instance, you couldn't drink wine.

01:11:31.300 You couldn't partake of anything pertaining to the grave.

01:11:33.880 You couldn't touch a dead body.

01:11:35.720 A corpse should be rendered unclean.

01:11:38.160 Of course, a Nazirite also could not cut their hair.

01:11:41.500 And that's what probably most people associate with Samson, is his strength and the story of Delilah and the hair and everything.

01:11:49.080 But he was expected to live up to the vows of a Nazirite.

01:11:53.700 Of course, there's a lot of examples in the Bible where he wasn't always that good at it.

01:11:57.920 He consorted with all these strange women.

01:12:01.260 He's touching dead lions and all these kinds of things.

01:12:04.120 And yet, God's Spirit would come upon him, use him to bring deliverance.

01:12:08.960 However, you know, there was a point where he crossed a line, and that's when he allowed Delilah to cut his hair.

01:12:17.620 And how does that relate to us?

01:12:20.440 The hair of a Nazirite was considered sacred.

01:12:24.120 In fact, in a normal circumstance, if a Nazirite completed a vow, he would cut his hair, and that hair would be burned on the altar.

01:12:32.440 It couldn't be used for anything common because it was considered holy.

01:12:35.680 The word in Hebrew that describes his hair is the same word that describes the crown of the high priest of Israel, the crown that said holy unto the Lord.

01:12:47.380 Same word.

01:12:48.680 So imagine a scenario where the high priest of Israel used to be the mediator between God and his people, and he used to represent what is set apart in the holy.

01:12:57.420 Actually, if he were to take that crown and then throw it before pagans and idolaters and let them desecrate it and trample it under feet, in essence, that's what Samson did when he allowed Delilah to cut his hair.

01:13:11.840 So my point would be this, where Samson's concerned, relating it to America.

01:13:16.820 There's no doubt in my mind that God raised this nation up for a reason, for a purpose, and I believe it was to bring relief from oppression.

01:13:26.300 You know, those people you were just talking about came to this nation to be delivered, to be free from that oppression, and to found a nation that would represent that relief from oppression.

01:13:38.820 And Winthrop said, if God does this, and he allows us to do that, then we will take that as evidence that he has ratified this covenant.

01:13:47.920 But he has expectations, and we have not always lived up to those expectations.

01:13:53.020 We have failed many times, and yet we still stand reasonably strong.

01:13:59.360 But here is where I believe we are at.

01:14:02.300 We're at the risk of taking what is sacred, desecrating it, saying it is, you know, of no regard to us, and casting it down, so to speak, to be trampled underfoot by people who have no regard for God and the covenant and these kinds of things.

01:14:17.860 And if we ever get to that place, if we cross that line, then what?

01:14:22.960 When Samson woke up, he thought he would just go out like he'd always done, but he didn't realize that the Spirit of God had departed from him.

01:14:30.480 And then he was turned over to his enemies.

01:14:33.420 So hang on just a second.

01:14:34.560 So, Bill, he had, because he had violated many things, and he still kept going.

01:14:39.920 And it's kind of like us.

01:14:40.840 We violated many things.

01:14:42.000 We just kept going.

01:14:43.280 But then that last straw, the sacredness of who he was, that representation, when he discarded it, cut it, and discarded it, that's when it wasn't all of a sudden.

01:14:56.740 He just didn't notice it.

01:14:58.560 It wasn't because of one thing.

01:15:00.240 It was many, but this was the last straw.

01:15:03.780 So if I understand your parallel correctly, at least this is the way I'm interpreting it, so I don't know.

01:15:09.860 But I feel like what is sacred is our declaration of independence, our constitution, and our place in the world.

01:15:21.980 And I don't mean that we're supposed to dominate everybody.

01:15:24.680 We're supposed to be a place of refuge and law and order based on the Judeo-Christian principles that we were founded on.

01:15:38.460 Absolutely.

01:15:39.220 Right?

01:15:39.440 So, as we are saying, this country is nothing but garbage.

01:15:44.200 We are cutting our hair.

01:15:47.500 I would agree.

01:15:48.700 I mean, those documents you mentioned, they were based on those principles that we find in the Bible.

01:15:53.980 I mean, Winthrop went on to say in that model of Christian charity that if we don't keep our end of the bargain, to paraphrase, that we will become a byword and a parable.

01:16:06.300 And he's quoting Moses, who was saying to Israel, if you don't uphold your end of the bargain in this covenant with God, here's what's going to happen.

01:16:14.160 You're going to be turned over to your enemies because you considered what was sacred to be less than.

01:16:21.820 You desired other things.

01:16:23.360 You desired your flesh and your whims and whatever it is you wanted.

01:16:27.780 You turned to those things and you cast what was sacred to the ground.

01:16:30.880 So, yes, I believe that if we're not already doing it, our head is going down into Delilah's lap, so to speak.

01:16:40.860 Okay.

01:16:41.900 Hang on just a sec, Bill.

01:16:43.160 I want to do one more segment with you as we talk about the meaning of the covenant.

01:16:50.720 And, you know, I know there will be people that don't agree with this.

01:16:54.660 This is not religion.

01:16:58.180 It is scriptural.

01:16:59.380 But it's not anybody's faith, per se.

01:17:02.860 It's not doctrinal.

01:17:05.300 It is universal and eternal.

01:17:08.640 And we're supposed to take the scriptures and learn from them and see the patterns.

01:17:13.720 And I think that was a pretty eye-opening pattern, at least for me, that now is the time.

01:17:22.440 We are running out of time.

01:17:24.400 And if you want to save our country.

01:17:27.480 Then we need to change our ways immediately and do not, no.

01:17:36.420 We need to stand for those things that are sacred.

01:17:42.280 Not just fight against those things that are evil, but stand for those things that are sacred.

01:17:51.460 This has got to be about action.

01:17:55.940 It has to be about how you live your life and what are you willing to say.

01:18:01.800 What are you willing?

01:18:02.680 Are you willing to stand up for these things?

01:18:05.040 Because if we don't, we cut our hair.

01:18:09.060 Taken out of context, that's the weirdest sentence I've ever said.

01:18:12.520 All right.

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01:18:22.400 I mean, some of them.

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01:18:24.400 This one, I mean, you know the 60% of women who have had an abortion wish they had it all over to do again so they wouldn't do that?

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01:19:38.900 All right.

01:19:58.080 We're on with Bill Cloud.

01:20:01.140 And, Bill, I can't thank you enough for making time to be with me today.

01:20:06.280 I know you're a...

01:20:06.760 My pleasure.

01:20:07.240 You're a busy man.

01:20:09.300 Let me take you to Esau.

01:20:11.800 Because with Samson, he was born into it, and he didn't make the covenant.

01:20:19.880 And I think that's the way most people will feel.

01:20:21.740 I didn't make the covenant.

01:20:22.880 And so he cheapened it.

01:20:24.880 He didn't regard it.

01:20:26.540 That's the same with Esau, is it not?

01:20:28.860 It is.

01:20:29.740 It is.

01:20:30.300 In fact, Esau, as far as I'm concerned, he's the profile of what a covenant breaker looks

01:20:37.580 like.

01:20:38.100 You know, someone who's born into it.

01:20:39.780 You know, his grandfather's Abraham.

01:20:41.660 You guys were talking about it at the very beginning of the program.

01:20:44.860 He's born into this, but he has no regard for it.

01:20:47.380 And so there are a lot of things that he demonstrates, you know, that are the attitude of people.

01:20:52.800 Well, I didn't ask for this.

01:20:55.000 I don't want this.

01:20:56.080 It really doesn't mean anything to me.

01:20:58.160 The difference, I would say, is that where Samson, when he's delivered over to the very

01:21:03.680 people he's supposed to deliver Israel from, he's blinded, but then he begins to see.

01:21:09.360 You know, and the Spirit of God did come back on him.

01:21:11.260 But Esau, he's different.

01:21:13.280 He digs in his heels.

01:21:14.560 He's obstinate.

01:21:15.480 He's deliberate in his refusal to embrace the covenant.

01:21:19.540 And so he becomes Jacob's Israel's nemesis.

01:21:24.980 And if I may, you know, you were talking or you said something along the lines of, are

01:21:29.500 we going to follow the pilgrim path or are we going to follow the Jamestown path?

01:21:33.900 Interestingly enough, Jacob and Esau, it's kind of an example of what you're talking about.

01:21:39.520 These two that were in the same womb contending with one another, who's going to rise to the

01:21:44.720 top, who's going to lord over the other.

01:21:47.140 And so that war between Jacob and Esau, I see that going on in America right now.

01:21:53.140 And it is a war.

01:21:55.460 You know, it's amazing.

01:21:56.680 His grandfather was Abraham.

01:21:59.440 It's always three generations to lose things.

01:22:02.360 But Abraham is your grandfather.

01:22:04.800 My grandfather was World War II.

01:22:06.940 He knew what freedom meant.

01:22:09.760 He knew the cost of it.

01:22:11.840 And so many people my age and younger are like, yeah, I don't really care.

01:22:18.760 My grandfather would have just, I mean, you know, he would just slap people across the

01:22:22.940 face.

01:22:23.140 What are you talking about?

01:22:24.940 Be grateful for what you have.

01:22:26.380 We fought hard for this.

01:22:27.940 And now we just don't care.

01:22:29.860 We just don't care.

01:22:30.480 Well, you know, that's basically Esau's approach to it.

01:22:34.300 And he goes in and Jacob is making some food there.

01:22:38.140 And Esau says, I'm really hungry.

01:22:39.820 And Jacob says, well, sell me your birthright.

01:22:42.380 You know, what's Esau's response?

01:22:44.600 What good is this thing to me?

01:22:45.940 This doesn't mean anything to me.

01:22:48.200 I would rather satisfy a physical appetite and give away what's sacred for what's common.

01:22:56.000 And so here we are again, back at that idea that when you have someone, biblically speaking,

01:23:02.780 who has no regard for what is sacred, he actually, this Esau becomes God's enemy, not just Jacob's

01:23:09.360 enemy.

01:23:09.580 He becomes God's enemy because he had no regard for these things that were sacred and holy.

01:23:14.420 He would prefer the material wealth, you know, the stuff.

01:23:17.720 We want the stuff, but we don't want the responsibility that goes along with the blessing.

01:23:23.400 It's amazing, Bill.

01:23:25.780 It's amazing.

01:23:27.240 Bill Cloud, thank you for being on.

01:23:29.180 I'd love to have you on again sometime in the next month or so as we do this 40 days and 40 nights.

01:23:34.640 Thank you so much.

01:23:35.940 That's Bill Cloud, Shorsham Ministries founder, also Jacob Tent, Jacob's Tent, a fellowship founder.

01:23:45.020 You can find him at billcloud.org.

01:23:46.840 Um, it, it's a lot to take in for, for one day and one show.

01:23:54.660 We're trying to explain the covenant, which we believe, I believe needs to be renewed by us.

01:24:01.340 Um, you know, I've always felt this, this audience is going to be the one that saves the nation.

01:24:07.280 I don't know how that is going to happen, but maybe this plays a role.

01:24:13.260 I don't know.

01:24:13.700 You'll find out all about it at glennbeck.com back program.

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01:25:36.920 Hello, you sick freak.

01:25:38.180 Welcome to the glennbeck program.

01:25:40.040 Today, we are concentrating on one topic only, and that is what the hell is going on?

01:25:48.820 We are, we, everything seems to be on fire and everything we try to do seems to only make it worse.

01:25:57.680 Am I alone in that?

01:26:00.160 We are looking at, we're watching the greatest country built on the greatest, most noble principles burn itself to the ground.

01:26:14.220 We are flirting with disaster.

01:26:17.540 And I really, truly believe, and I've said this for a long time, it's because we are just abandoning God.

01:26:25.920 And we've done more than abandoning God.

01:26:28.300 We have, we're slapping him across the face every day.

01:26:32.040 Get out.

01:26:33.160 Get out.

01:26:33.820 In fact, I'm going to show you who we worship as you're walking out the door.

01:26:40.940 It's bad.

01:26:44.200 That doesn't end well for a nation, but it's not hopeless.

01:26:50.580 You know, people will ask me, how are, how are things?

01:26:53.700 And somebody asked me, Glenn, you have, you know, one sentence advice for me?

01:26:58.000 And I said, yes, prepare for impact.

01:26:59.740 He was like, okay, that's not going to make my night, you know, more comfortable.

01:27:05.260 But I said, there is God.

01:27:08.840 And if we will just turn, there is something we can do, but we have to be willing to change our lives.

01:27:15.340 So, this is the beginning of a 40-day, 40-night exercise.

01:27:20.160 How much are you willing to change?

01:27:24.160 If you're tired of watching your country, then we all, including me, we all have to change.

01:27:32.940 Americans are rejecting God, but we all say, oh, yeah, we love God.

01:27:38.700 We lie.

01:27:39.380 We cheat.

01:27:40.040 We hate our neighbor.

01:27:41.100 However, the people who say they believe in God have got to step up and live it before they talk to anybody else.

01:27:49.460 We have to ask ourselves, what does it mean to love God?

01:27:54.200 What does God want me to do?

01:27:55.800 Why do I exist?

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01:29:21.720 Skip Moen is here.

01:29:23.180 Hi, Skip.

01:29:23.780 How are you, Glenn?

01:29:26.820 It's a great honor to be on your program.

01:29:29.260 I was quite surprised that anyone would even ask, but thank you so much.

01:29:34.000 Oh, my gosh.

01:29:34.840 No, you're, I mean, you're teaching just on the mistranslation of the Beatitudes is some of the best stuff I've ever seen.

01:29:45.220 Thank you so much.

01:29:46.460 You're welcome.

01:29:47.220 I appreciate that.

01:29:47.600 So, let's go there.

01:29:51.420 Okay.

01:29:51.860 So, the Beatitudes, they're blessings.

01:29:56.460 You know, if we do these spiritual things, we're going to be blessed and get some reward.

01:30:02.500 Blessed are the poor, for the kingdom of heaven is theirs.

01:30:06.060 You say, uh-uh.

01:30:07.240 Yes.

01:30:07.640 No, no, the problem is, of course, that our idea of Beatitudes comes from the Latin translation, which makes it sound like a blessing.

01:30:18.220 But in both Greek and in Hebrew, the more proper translation would be lucky.

01:30:24.880 And, of course, the Christian world, Christian publishers don't like, you know, the idea of luck in a religion.

01:30:32.240 Right.

01:30:32.300 So, they don't use that, but both makarioi, which is the Greek term, and ashray, which is the Hebrew term, are all about how lucky you are when these things happen to you.

01:30:43.340 It has nothing to do with you getting something.

01:30:45.720 It's just a description of what it is like when you live these kinds of experiences.

01:30:51.860 And, of course, every one of us can identify with some of this experience because it's all, as I say in my book, sacred paradoxes, things that are upside down, that seem like the exact opposite of what they should be.

01:31:03.120 And God uses all of those to, you know, move us in his direction.

01:31:07.400 So, tell me about the word lucky here.

01:31:09.020 I just want to dwell on this for a second.

01:31:12.220 Okay.

01:31:12.700 You know, because I used to say, oh, I'm so lucky.

01:31:15.560 And I believe we, I was in a conversation with this with a bunch of people just the other day.

01:31:20.520 You know how lucky we are to live at these times because we get to see who we really can be because our back is up against the wall.

01:31:27.340 So, we're lucky to live at this time.

01:31:30.260 That's different than I'm blessed.

01:31:33.120 And I now say I'm blessed or I'm lucky and I mean two different things.

01:31:39.860 Tell me, is there a difference like that in these translations from Hebrew?

01:31:48.420 Yes.

01:31:49.400 Go ahead.

01:31:50.980 Yes.

01:31:51.560 Actually, you know, Hebrew is a very tactile, earthy kind of language.

01:31:57.720 It's about the land.

01:31:59.500 It's about the people.

01:32:00.380 It's about the dirt.

01:32:01.180 It's about all the things that come into life and ordinary living.

01:32:04.960 So, luck plays a big part of that because good things happen and you think, oh, my gosh, how lucky, how blessed I am to be, you know, alive during this time.

01:32:16.240 When the rain comes, it's a blessing.

01:32:18.000 It's also lucky, by the way, because it means that I'll have crops.

01:32:21.840 So, in that sense, luck and blessing are pretty much the same.

01:32:27.700 But that's not what happened when the translation started changing the concept of this Greek and Hebrew idea.

01:32:36.680 By the time you get to the Vulgate, the Latin translation, you move in the direction of a blessing given by someone else.

01:32:44.260 So, as I suggest in my book, there might be an ecclesiastical reason for this because in ancient times, you had to go to the priest to get a blessing.

01:32:53.720 And the idea is that he would bless you for some spiritual, you know, exercise or some attitude that you had, and you would be rewarded for that.

01:33:01.960 So, now you become dependent upon the religious aristocracy to give you the blessing that you need in order to survive.

01:33:10.260 But that's not what the biblical text is all about.

01:33:12.740 The biblical text is about how lucky you are when these really terrible things happen to you.

01:33:18.900 Okay, so, wait.

01:33:20.780 Let me just take one.

01:33:23.560 Blessed are the poor, for there is the kingdom of heaven.

01:33:26.740 There's no priest there that is blessing you there, the poor.

01:33:34.240 And what is the real, what's the real translation is that?

01:33:39.160 Okay, so, the Greek term starts with this predicate adjective, makarios, which we've translated as blessed, as though it's a verb.

01:33:48.960 But it's not a verb, it's just a description of the character of a person who is, in this case, poor before God.

01:33:57.960 Now, the interesting thing about that word is that there are multiple definitions for, or multiple terms in Greek and Hebrew for what poor means.

01:34:06.680 And in this case, it means destitute.

01:34:09.960 So, it's not the day laborer.

01:34:11.800 It's not the guy who lives from paycheck to paycheck.

01:34:14.280 The idea is that the poor here is someone who's so, he's the beggar.

01:34:19.640 He's the one who's laying in the street.

01:34:21.400 He's so, so destitute that unless somebody comes and helps him, he's going to die.

01:34:27.220 Right?

01:34:27.740 So, now, what Jesus is saying is how lucky you are to be completely destitute, which seems completely backwards.

01:34:37.560 But then he goes on to say, the paradox is that when you're that desperate for God, God shows up.

01:34:45.680 The kingdom of God arrives.

01:34:47.720 Right?

01:34:47.940 He basically says the reason that the kingdom of God even shows up in life is because people are desperate for God.

01:34:55.320 If you're not desperate, you're not going to see the kingdom.

01:34:57.660 So, your comment about the world is on fire is the perfect time for us to say, wait a minute.

01:35:04.220 Everything is falling apart.

01:35:06.160 We're in desperate situations, desperate straits.

01:35:09.700 Now is the time when we should be looking for the kingdom because that's when God arrives, when people are desperate for him.

01:35:15.400 When we don't need God, you know, it's like Heschel says.

01:35:18.300 We put him in exile, and then we think, oh, we can survive without him.

01:35:22.520 But, in fact, what actually happens is that the world starts to collapse, as it is, and it's done many times before.

01:35:30.120 And that's when desperation takes over, and that's when God starts looking to our hearts to see, you know, what to do next.

01:35:39.380 So, the attitude is all about that kind of thing.

01:35:42.380 So, you're lucky, and I speak as a recovering alcoholic.

01:35:47.920 I look at all of the tragedies in my life, and I look at them and say, and it took me a while to get here, but I look at them and go, you know, if that wouldn't have happened, then I wouldn't have been here, and I wouldn't have been here, and I wouldn't have learned that, and I wouldn't have done that.

01:36:03.960 And you can look at all of the horrible things in your life, and if you view them as a blessing, or lucky, would be a better word in that case, you're looking at the things that you fail, and where you have really gone down to the bottom.

01:36:22.540 You are lucky if you view it that way, and you're, because your heart is open now.

01:36:32.880 It's not like God comes, and he's like, well, I'm waiting for you to be humble, and I'm not going to show, I've got some other thing.

01:36:38.120 I've got to play some pool at three this afternoon.

01:36:41.020 He's, what he's, he's always trying to get you, but you won't listen.

01:36:46.140 So, you're lucky because God's there, right?

01:36:49.320 The kingdom of heaven is, isn't that the full translation?

01:36:52.900 The kingdom of heaven is, so he's there, but now you're open to him.

01:36:59.380 Yeah, now you see it.

01:37:01.120 Wow.

01:37:01.660 I mean, look, I often say it this way, the best resume you can have is your failure resume, because God can't work with your success resume.

01:37:09.560 You did that.

01:37:10.680 He's working with your failure resume, the things that you collapsed over, the things that drove you to the ground,

01:37:16.840 the things that put you on your knees.

01:37:18.800 Those are the times when, you know, God becomes the only solution to your life, and that's when he really shows up.

01:37:27.880 So, I write two resumes when people ask for my stuff.

01:37:33.220 I, you know, I send them the, you know, the five degrees and all the books and everything, and then I say, okay, wait a minute,

01:37:37.920 there's another resume that you need to know about, and that's the one of all of my failures.

01:37:41.900 All the things that I, that I couldn't do became the part of me that, that makes me who I am.

01:37:49.860 So, give me, so let me just go back to this one, and then can you, can you show us the different Beatitudes and what they really say?

01:37:57.720 Lucky are those who are desperate, because, because of them, the kingdom of heaven is.

01:38:05.880 That's the actual translation?

01:38:07.580 Exactly.

01:38:08.620 Yeah, actually, there is a word, hoti, and it means because of them.

01:38:12.960 No scholar will tell you that it should be translated, for theirs is, because then it makes it sound like we get a piece of the real estate of heaven.

01:38:20.660 Correct.

01:38:21.160 That's not what happens at all, right?

01:38:22.980 What happens is, because I'm desperate, the kingdom of God arrives.

01:38:28.560 I mean, look what Jesus says.

01:38:30.060 The kingdom is at hand, and what he means is, he's dealing with people who are finally desperate enough to see that God is ready to answer them, that he's going to show up, right?

01:38:40.400 And it's because of their desperation that God shows up, and you can see that in the history of Israel.

01:38:45.300 I mean, think about the number of times that the prophets excoriate Israel over being too fat, too happy, too comfortable, that they ignore their social responsibility, they ignore the poor, and what happens?

01:38:59.440 They collapse, and then when they collapse, they plead God, you know, forgive us, bring us back, and then he, you know, he shows up, right?

01:39:08.500 And that's the kind of thing that goes on in this beatitude.

01:39:11.980 And the second one is—

01:39:13.160 Well, hang on, hang on, hang on.

01:39:13.960 I've got to take a break.

01:39:14.800 We've got to come back.

01:39:15.820 I have to tell you, just that is so affirming.

01:39:20.820 And, you know, in my life, at least, I've said alcoholics are going to save the world, because alcoholics know when you—they, A, have a bottom, and it's not death, and B, they know you've got to surrender to it.

01:39:35.420 And then just surrender, and then just do the things that you're supposed to do, and it's all going to be good, because peace is already there.

01:39:45.700 You just don't know how to access it, because you won't surrender.

01:39:50.280 So, it's great.

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01:40:58.980 And they'll do all they can to make it happen.

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01:41:16.300 All right.

01:41:17.100 So let's go through these.

01:41:20.880 Okay.

01:41:22.040 Go ahead.

01:41:22.520 So the first one, of course, we've now talked about, but, you know, the lucky ones are the destitute because the kingdom of God shows up.

01:41:31.920 The second one we read as, I'll read it from the New American Standard Bible.

01:41:38.520 Blessed are those who mourn, for they should be comforted.

01:41:41.180 But think about that.

01:41:42.380 The term that's used there is the term for a person who's at a funeral.

01:41:47.700 So why are people at funerals lucky?

01:41:50.400 You would think that's the last place on earth that you would ever say, oh, I'm so lucky I'm at this funeral.

01:41:56.560 Because you're alive.

01:41:57.520 The point, yeah.

01:41:59.220 Well, but the point is that once you are at, when you're at a funeral, you experience the fragility of life.

01:42:07.120 Yes.

01:42:07.580 For the first time you come into contact with the fact that you're not in charge, right?

01:42:12.500 That you can't make your life go on by yourself.

01:42:16.040 You can't just decide I'm going to live longer.

01:42:18.200 You don't have any control over that issue of life and death.

01:42:21.960 And when you're at a funeral, it smacks you in the face.

01:42:25.560 The point there is, I'm really lucky because now I get to confront the fact that I'm not in control.

01:42:33.400 It is the same feeling that we had on 9-11.

01:42:39.160 If you're old enough to remember, it was the worst day.

01:42:44.040 But it was the first day in my life where I went, oh my gosh, this is so fragile.

01:42:49.460 This could come down overnight.

01:42:51.840 And I had never felt that before.

01:42:53.800 And we're feeling that, I think, as a society, we're feeling that again.

01:42:59.260 Yes.

01:42:59.560 We're not quite sure how it's working yet.

01:43:02.540 We know that there's something really wrong.

01:43:05.300 But we haven't been able to put our finger on it like an attack on the Twin Towers.

01:43:09.260 But we know that something is happening that's destroying things.

01:43:13.520 And it's making us feel out of control.

01:43:16.320 All you have to do is look at the craziness of the politics that's going on in Washington.

01:43:21.200 Those people are out of control.

01:43:23.180 And that makes me feel very vulnerable.

01:43:26.120 And that's the time, because of this language, it says when you're in the, you know, when you confront death, especially death of a loved one, you realize how absolutely dependent you are on God.

01:43:42.400 And that feeling of dependence goes right along with my desperateness for God.

01:43:47.220 So the two Beatitudes work together.

01:43:49.540 You know, the third one is even better.

01:43:51.760 Because the third one, you know, just let me back up for a second.

01:43:56.040 Jesus doesn't deliver these in Greek.

01:43:57.980 He delivers them in Hebrew.

01:43:59.340 So in order for me to really understand what's happening, I can't just read the Greek.

01:44:02.840 I have to say, okay, well, what would happen if he was speaking this in Hebrew?

01:44:06.240 And the word that he uses in Hebrew is anah, which we translate sometimes as gentle, but it really means humble.

01:44:12.420 But it means more than that.

01:44:14.160 Because that word is about people who are oppressed.

01:44:17.980 In fact, it's used for women who have been raped.

01:44:21.960 Okay?

01:44:22.340 So look at the third Beatitude.

01:44:24.060 Lesson are those who are oppressed, for they shall inherit the earth.

01:44:28.540 I mean, the whole point is, no one would think that they're lucky because they were oppressed.

01:44:33.020 No woman thinks she's lucky to be raped.

01:44:35.780 No country thinks it's lucky to be bombarded and overrun.

01:44:39.800 But what Yeshua is saying is, no, wait, there's a paradox here.

01:44:43.440 When you come to the point where your life is not only not in your control, but where everything is happening that seems destructive,

01:44:52.800 that's when something happens with God and you recognize that there's a hope, a future, something that's going to happen afterwards.

01:45:02.760 And you can build on that because God's promises are always true, right?

01:45:08.400 So even if I'm in the worst possible condition, as David is often in the Psalms, he will say,

01:45:17.000 but you, Lord, are my rescue.

01:45:18.900 In other words, yeah, life is short, but it's not going to continue like that because I trust God will redeem, God will rescue.

01:45:31.500 So the Beatitude takes this horrible situation and turns it upside down.

01:45:36.760 Skip Moen.

01:45:38.380 Skip Moen, he's an international Bible teacher.

01:45:40.800 You can find him at skipmoen.com.

01:45:42.600 We're going to continue our conversation here after a break.

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01:47:28.660 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:47:30.900 We're so glad you're here.

01:47:31.880 We have Skip Moen on.

01:47:33.580 International Bible teacher.

01:47:34.820 We've been talking about the mistranslation of the Beatitudes, which totally turns things around.

01:47:43.820 It loses of, you do this.

01:47:48.800 If you're poor, I got a present for you at the end to be grateful that you're poor right now.

01:47:57.360 Because that's, you get to see the kingdom of heaven because you're going to, you can find it because you are desperate to find it.

01:48:05.540 That is fantastic, Skip.

01:48:08.600 Fantastic.

01:48:09.120 I don't know why more people aren't teaching it this way.

01:48:13.580 It's really good.

01:48:15.620 Well, I think the reason that more people don't understand this is because we've had, you know, a thousand or fifteen hundred years of the church's use of the Beatitudes as though they were spiritual rewards.

01:48:29.580 And, you know, it's comfortable.

01:48:32.760 I mean, the Beatitudes are really, as I've said, spiritual paradoxes.

01:48:37.760 They're very uncomfortable because they're all about the situations in life that we would like to avoid.

01:48:43.340 Right.

01:48:44.040 So, you know, when you read them like that, it doesn't preach very well.

01:48:50.100 So, I think, especially in today's world where we are not grateful for anything, anything.

01:48:57.980 And I have, about a year or so ago, I don't know what made me think this, but I thought, it was my dad.

01:49:04.520 It was longer than this.

01:49:06.280 My dad, I wondered if he ever got to rev his philosophical or spiritual RPMs to the red line because he didn't, you know, in his own way, he was challenged, but not the way people are challenged right now.

01:49:25.640 Right now, we are entering a time where our RPMs are going to go up, you know, we're going to see what this internal engine can do.

01:49:36.140 And that is exciting and a blessing to be able to fully have to access our brain and our spirit.

01:49:45.960 It's fantastic.

01:49:46.680 Yeah, I think that when I talk about the Beatitudes, I often talk about these as the qualities of leadership.

01:49:57.060 Because, you know, frankly, if you don't have leaders who exhibit these kinds of characteristics, you have leaders who are, you know, who have the egomaniacal attitudes toward themselves.

01:50:11.540 I mean, when you think about what these Beatitudes say, they really say that this kind of heart of a person, this kind of character, is the person that, not only that you want to follow, but you can't wait to follow.

01:50:26.520 Because their lives are completely dedicated to the things that matter to God, right?

01:50:35.280 And that makes the nation work.

01:50:38.500 When you walk away from that, when you have leadership that's focused on power or on something like that, then, you know, you lose the perspective of what God had in mind when he created the human society.

01:50:51.940 Okay, so we have, blessed are the poor in spirit.

01:50:55.900 Blessed are those who mourn.

01:50:57.980 Blessed are the meek, for they'll inherit the earth.

01:51:02.260 Yes.

01:51:02.640 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness.

01:51:07.500 Yes.

01:51:08.400 And the way that I read that, just very briefly, is that those people are the ones who don't get what they deserve.

01:51:16.000 So the paradox is, the very people who hunger and thirst, that means they don't have it, right?

01:51:21.600 In fact, the words in Greek mean a constant malnutrition.

01:51:28.300 It's not just that I'm hungry today, but I've been hungry every day, right?

01:51:33.260 Those people, says God, are the ones who exhibit the kind of attitude that I am looking for, because they know that they need more.

01:51:43.320 Okay?

01:51:43.560 And then the next one says, blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.

01:51:51.060 And for most of our English translations, it looks like a tautology.

01:51:54.200 Oh yeah, give mercy, get mercy.

01:51:55.980 Right.

01:51:56.220 But the problem is, that verse, it literally is a line from Psalm 37, and the word there in Hebrew is chesed, and it doesn't mean mercy.

01:52:10.240 It was mistranslated in the Septuagint and came over into the Greek as mercy, but it actually has this really interesting, multi-level idea of my social, political, spiritual responsibility for others and for myself.

01:52:30.840 It's all, chesed is a really, really powerful word.

01:52:34.340 We could spend an hour just talking about that one word, but what it means is, it's like the pay it forward program.

01:52:41.180 It says, God did something for me, and I owe him for what he did, and he says, you have to pass it on to someone else for it to be, you know, be acceptable.

01:52:52.480 You remember the parable that Jesus gave about the man who owed a huge amount of money, and the king forgives him, and then he goes out and takes his friend and says, give me what you owe me, which was a tiny amount.

01:53:09.020 And when he throws his friend in jail, the king hears this, and he rescinds the forgiveness and deals very harshly with the man.

01:53:17.460 And that's the idea, that if I'm going to show chesed, I'm going to show this community care in my life, then it has to be extended to the next person.

01:53:31.920 It isn't just for me.

01:53:33.440 It's got to go on through the society.

01:53:35.820 Next one is, blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.

01:53:40.720 Yeah, and you know that if you know anything about the Bible at all, you know that no one can see God.

01:53:46.480 So the paradox here is, how in the world can you ever have a pure enough heart so that you can see God?

01:53:52.820 Because the Bible tells you no man can see God and live.

01:53:55.480 So something else is going on behind this.

01:53:58.640 And my analysis is, okay, wait a minute.

01:54:02.620 He's not saying that you're going to see God, that is, you're going to be in front of the, you know, the holy fire.

01:54:09.220 What he's saying is, if you work on the purity of your heart, the integrity of your heart, you will begin to see God's invisible handiwork in the lives of men.

01:54:20.480 And it's exactly what Jesus said when he said, if you've seen me, you've seen the Father.

01:54:24.700 You've seen the behavior.

01:54:25.980 You've seen the attitudes.

01:54:27.560 You've seen the care.

01:54:28.880 You see God happening in the lives of other people.

01:54:32.320 And you can't see it if you're, if you're not looking for purity of heart, it'll be blind to you.

01:54:37.620 You won't even recognize it.

01:54:39.220 But once you concentrate on purity of heart, then you'll start to see God show up.

01:54:44.320 And as you said, he's there all the time.

01:54:46.140 You just haven't been in a position to recognize it.

01:54:49.500 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the children of God.

01:54:56.060 Yeah, and this is really interesting, because a peacemaker is not someone who's at peace.

01:55:02.600 A peacemaker is the one who makes peace for others.

01:55:06.080 In other words, a peacemaker is the one who's shot at from both sides.

01:55:10.720 Right?

01:55:11.460 Wow.

01:55:11.960 And think about it.

01:55:13.140 We read that and they think, oh, I want peace, so then I can, you know, I can be called the son of God because I'm going to be at peace.

01:55:21.160 But that's not what God's saying.

01:55:22.640 What he's saying is, you have to be the one to step into the conflict.

01:55:26.640 You have to be the one to be shot at from both sides in order to bring peace.

01:55:31.760 That's the idea.

01:55:32.960 You are a peacemaker.

01:55:35.060 And the peacemaker is not the one who enjoys peace.

01:55:37.860 He's the one who's in the middle of the fight trying to make it happen.

01:55:41.860 Yeah.

01:55:42.340 Yeah.

01:55:42.860 Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake.

01:55:47.600 Yes.

01:55:48.000 And this is really interesting because in Hebrew, the idea is to be pursued.

01:55:55.000 Right?

01:55:55.520 So it's not that you're being tortured and imprisoned and all that kind of stuff.

01:55:59.760 It means that someone is after you because you're standing for righteousness.

01:56:05.720 And boy, is that ever true in life today.

01:56:08.000 Well, you ain't good.

01:56:08.540 You stand up for God's values and people come after you.

01:56:12.240 Right?

01:56:12.620 And what this beatitude is saying is, you're lucky when that happens.

01:56:17.040 I mean, remember, all of these are not blessings.

01:56:19.120 All of these are a description of how lucky you are to be in those positions.

01:56:24.120 And, of course, it's exactly the opposite of what we think.

01:56:26.700 You know, we want peace, comfort, wealth, happiness.

01:56:30.020 And what God is saying is, those things are exactly the things that keep you away from me.

01:56:34.300 And, of course, it's in the middle of all this other stuff that you're more likely to find who I am and who you are.

01:56:42.040 And then from a leadership perspective, I think it's, you know, it's the code of conduct that we need in our leaders if we're going to see any change at all.

01:56:50.700 It's a really important stuff.

01:56:51.940 It's amazing to me how God made us to where our natural instinct is an enemy of God.

01:57:02.480 You know, our natural instinct is to not do any of those things.

01:57:06.200 And yet when we do them, we feel so good.

01:57:10.360 And but it's so easy to lose that where I never lose the desire to eat ice cream always.

01:57:21.140 And it makes me feel good when I eat it.

01:57:23.860 And I never think, oh, you know what?

01:57:26.120 I haven't thought about ice cream for a while.

01:57:28.500 But when it comes to service and all of these other things, you're like, oh, yeah, I should do that.

01:57:34.040 And then you're driving.

01:57:35.160 Why am I going again?

01:57:36.320 I've got so much stuff to do.

01:57:37.800 And you feel good.

01:57:38.900 Why is it that we forget all of that?

01:57:43.000 But, you know, in Hebrew thought, in Jewish thought, there's a real interesting perspective on what it means to be human.

01:57:51.580 It's the it's the conflict between what's called the inclination to good and the inclination to evil.

01:58:00.980 And what Jewish thought is, is that we are the crossroads between those.

01:58:05.860 You never get rid of one or the other.

01:58:07.620 Correct.

01:58:08.020 They're always there because the reason that they're always there is because that inclination to do for myself is what makes me go out into the world and get a job and marry and have children and change the world to fit me.

01:58:24.840 And that's a really powerful thing.

01:58:26.720 Along comes the inclination, the inclination, the inclination to submit my desire for myself to God's will.

01:58:39.400 That's the inclination to good.

01:58:41.220 And that conflict goes on in me all the time.

01:58:44.620 It never stops.

01:58:45.820 It just is a matter of which one I feed.

01:58:49.020 Right.

01:58:49.180 It's like going to the gym.

01:58:51.120 If I keep practicing lifting, you know, for biceps, I only get big biceps, but my quads are going to be no good unless I lift for the quads as well.

01:59:01.020 And so what the Hebrew idea is, you need to practice both.

01:59:05.760 Of course, you need to be not a couch potato.

01:59:08.200 You need to get up and change the world.

01:59:10.660 But in changing the world, you need to make that change happen on God's behalf.

01:59:16.180 So you subvert that innate desire to change things so that it becomes a function of what God wants as well.

01:59:24.920 And this list of beaters just tells you, here's the characteristics that you need to be looking for.

01:59:31.720 You're fantastic.

01:59:33.000 Thank you so much.

01:59:34.260 And you, I mean, how humble of you to say, I didn't know anybody would ever want me on.

01:59:39.860 I think you're fantastic.

01:59:41.400 And I'd like to have you again.

01:59:43.480 Thank you so much.

01:59:45.260 I really appreciate that, Glenn.

01:59:47.200 Thank you so much.

01:59:48.300 You know, I tend to stay below the radar, but it's really nice to finally talk to you.

01:59:53.520 I've been listening to you for many years, and I really appreciate the time to talk.

01:59:57.600 Thank you.

01:59:58.200 Skip, can I ask you a question?

01:59:59.640 Because you've listened.

02:00:00.620 Sure.

02:00:00.920 You've listened to me.

02:00:05.340 Go ahead.

02:00:05.900 Are we, we are at the place where we're really, really lucky.

02:00:11.440 You, you optimistic for Americans figuring this out and, and changing their life spiritually

02:00:22.400 so we can ask for God's help again?

02:00:25.560 Yeah.

02:00:27.920 I'm optimistic in the sense that I know that God is anxious for us to turn to him, and he's

02:00:36.060 always responsive to that.

02:00:37.840 I'm pessimistic when I look at human history.

02:00:42.040 Because I've seen, I've seen this, look, it, it was the Persians, the Babylonians, the

02:00:47.480 Assyrians, the Egyptians, you know, the Greeks, the Romans, we've all, there have been stages

02:00:53.420 in human history where we've come to this point of utter disaster.

02:00:58.180 And, and unfortunately, most of the time it's led to collapse.

02:01:03.500 It's not because, you know, God is pushing it that way.

02:01:06.680 No.

02:01:06.980 It's because we, we, we didn't respond to his invitation to change.

02:01:11.520 And, and, and, you know, it's, I, I, I, it reminds me of Ezekiel when Ezekiel goes after

02:01:19.620 the leadership.

02:01:20.320 I mean, he excoriates them by saying, here, you know, it's not the people.

02:01:25.340 He holds the leadership accountable for the whole thing.

02:01:28.820 He says, you, you sent the people in the wrong way.

02:01:32.600 You, you're responsible for all this.

02:01:34.740 And when I look at what's happening in America, I, you know, I live in Italy and, and so I'm

02:01:44.720 a little bit removed, but, you know, my wife and I are really involved in, in, in every

02:01:52.120 day, you know, checking on what's going on.

02:01:54.280 And I really feel like, boy, as you said, we're at desperate times.

02:01:58.620 Yeah, we are.

02:01:59.380 We're really at the edge.

02:02:00.480 We are.

02:02:01.140 Thank you so much, Skip.

02:02:02.480 We'll talk again.

02:02:03.300 Jamie Dimon, by the way, join us with our 40 day, 40 night preparatory, uh, exercises.

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02:02:31.800 Okay.

02:02:32.240 All right.

02:02:32.600 That's good.

02:02:33.300 Uh, in uncertain times, what do you do?

02:02:36.180 You can only do what you can do and then you leave it to the rest of God.

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02:03:10.520 You know, I've, I've become a better, I don't know, prayer.

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02:03:41.580 And I think it's because my son went to college and, uh, you know, he, he, he, I don't get

02:03:47.720 to talk to him all the time and I look forward to when he calls and I try to call him and he's

02:03:54.180 busy or whatever.

02:03:55.080 And, uh, I realized the other day, wow, I think that's the way God feels about, you know, me.

02:04:02.360 Oh, really?

02:04:03.000 Checking in.

02:04:03.520 What do you, what do you need?

02:04:04.400 What do you, what do you need?

02:04:05.700 I was like, no, dad, I just want to say hi.

02:04:07.860 Thanks.

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