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00:00:53.160 Today we have every voice that you could possibly want to hear from about the president's speech. We have Eric Bolling. We have Steve Dace. We have Andrew Wilkow, Ben Ferguson, John Miller, Stephen Kent, Matt Kibbe. Pat is coming up in a second. I mean, we are going to be covering the president's speech and the Democratic response from all sides of the conservative movement.

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00:03:17.960 So last night, the president gave a speech from the Oval Office behind the Resolute desk.

00:03:32.400 The first time he has addressed the nation from that, he did a I thought a really good job, really solid speech.

00:03:39.660 Then Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, which looked like something that I don't know, came from South Park.

00:03:46.380 Quite honestly, they responded.

00:03:49.480 But I want to get with Eric Bolling, who has deep relationships at the White House and possibly can give us some insight on this and get his opinion on on the speech and its effectiveness.

00:04:02.240 Welcome to the program, Eric Bolling.

00:04:05.720 Hey, Glenn. Thanks for having me back.

00:04:07.340 You bet.

00:04:07.800 I'm sitting I'm sitting at the Trump Hotel bar last night.

00:04:11.340 They do every Tuesday and Wednesday for the show.

00:04:14.980 And they they they lower the music.

00:04:18.360 And what's typically on the screens is one CNN, one Fox, one Fox Business, one ESPN.

00:04:24.980 They lower the volume on everything and they play the speech full volume in the whole Trump lobby.

00:04:29.800 We see a lot of supporters here and, you know, it was a few minutes.

00:04:34.360 I think he was making his case for what could be, you know, his declaration of a national emergency to get to get some of the wall funding.

00:04:41.080 So he's I think he's being told he's being advised by Kellyanne and Shine and Sarah Sanders.

00:04:49.120 And it is kind of a team advisory panel about what to do with this.

00:04:54.660 I understand he didn't want to do the speech.

00:04:56.960 And I understand he didn't really necessarily want to go to to the Texas border.

00:05:00.560 He feels those are a little bit more, I don't know, photo op ish than than than any substantive action.

00:05:08.960 But he's he's he's entrenched.

00:05:11.480 He's dug in. He's not going to give up without a fight.

00:05:14.660 So so tell me, Eric, the the story that he had lunch with all of the anchors and he said, you know, it's a photo op.

00:05:22.240 And I really didn't want to do it. It's not going to make a difference. Is that story true then?

00:05:27.340 Well, I mean, I would think it is. I read it as you did.

00:05:30.880 And, you know, we have a room full of journalists and off the record comments tend to become leaked.

00:05:38.300 And so I guess it would be true. But, you know, I tend to agree with them.

00:05:44.620 I don't think last night necessarily moved the needle.

00:05:47.400 I think Trump's base, people who have supported him from the beginning, want to see a wall built and want to see him threaten to shut it or continue to shut down the government until they get funding for the wall. 0.74

00:05:57.580 And the people who didn't vote for him or don't like him, liberals or anti-Trumpers or whomever, didn't come to his side by watching that, nor did they become any more emboldened by watching Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer really look ridiculous. 0.55

00:06:12.560 That was that was weird. 0.52

00:06:14.460 It was just a game going around of comparisons, you know, to what they look like.

00:06:19.420 It is. It is actually a terrible.

00:06:20.840 So let me just throw one thing at you, Glenn, 2019 request for foreign aid budget, twenty seven point seven billion dollars.

00:06:28.860 That includes three billion for Israel, you know, a billion for Jordan.

00:06:33.480 You know, people like me and maybe libertarians like you would say, well, if we're willing to spend almost 30 billion dollars handing out money to foreign countries, is five billion dollars, whether you think it's effective or not, is five billion dollars really a big deal to protect our southern border?

00:06:50.460 Or even a third of the country believes it needs to happen?

00:06:54.140 No, it's it's really not. 0.97

00:06:55.820 This is a ridiculous. 0.97

00:06:57.440 I think this is a ridiculous argument and it's coming at a I think a a ridiculous time. 0.98

00:07:05.480 The time to fight this was, you know, in the first in the first year or two. 0.96

00:07:11.400 Now we're sitting here and everybody's digging in because we're approaching an election.

00:07:16.700 I don't think the Democrats are going to give on this.

00:07:20.460 Why why do you have any idea why we didn't fight for the wall like this sooner?

00:07:27.700 Yeah.

00:07:28.440 Yeah.

00:07:28.820 Because you had you had Paul Ryan.

00:07:33.140 Speaker of the House and Paul Ryan was never approached.

00:07:36.340 I never saw things.

00:07:37.320 Look, this wall funding, this wall, this wall funding, this whole debate is all political.

00:07:41.800 I mean, we've you and I both talked about the how many times Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Obama, Clinton, Feinstein have all been on record on tape saying that they're they're for stronger borders and stronger immigration policy.

00:07:53.400 This is all about policy.

00:07:54.540 In fact, you know, Schumer is willing to do twenty five billion dollars if he got what he wanted in DACA.

00:07:59.020 So this is all B.S. politicking and what Trump is not one of the is clearly one of the most hated politicians in D.C.

00:08:06.400 So they're going to they're going to hold out on their side until until someone blinks.

00:08:09.840 My guess is that I'm going to just go out on a limb and say, I don't think I mean, I don't know that the best route is to declare a national emergency.

00:08:17.600 But find the funding, find three billion dollars somewhere.

00:08:21.420 I mean, we have a four trillion dollar budget, three billion.

00:08:23.900 They they blink and lose three billion dollars on some things.

00:08:27.380 Just find it and find something where, you know, we save three billion dollars on the renegotiated death.

00:08:34.900 And guess what? We found three billion in Mexico paid for it to play one of those gimmicky games that that politicians on both sides of the aisle have played for, you know, 247 years.

00:08:46.080 So and then everyone and then we move on and, you know, TSA can come back to work and we can feel safe flying again and all the other stuff.

00:08:54.820 Have you noticed the difference in the media?

00:08:56.620 I'm struck by when Republicans, quote unquote, shut down the government several years ago for something like Planned Parenthood.

00:09:03.000 The argument was, why don't Republicans just give in on a few hundred million or a billion dollars because we have to get this government open now that it's one little thing that the Democrats could easily just give in on and get all the government funding.

00:09:16.080 They they the the the the pitch from the press is the exact opposite, that it's the Republicans fault because they won't give up on their one thing.

00:09:24.420 It's a it's fascinating how they reverse these things.

00:09:26.800 Yeah. But but don't forget, when you're on that side, you go, can you believe they they they won't just give up on this five billion?

00:09:32.180 So, so, look, I think and this is this, you know, and I'm glad I'm always I'm 100 percent honest person.

00:09:38.620 I think Trump is making a mistake keeping the rest of the government closed.

00:09:43.100 I think what he should do is open the rest.

00:09:45.360 Let let, you know, Homeland Security fight this fight and just let the whole mess.

00:09:51.060 Now, honestly, I know what he's doing.

00:09:53.000 He's using the other agencies, kind of holding him hostage a little bit because a bigger package is harder to fight with.

00:09:59.100 But I think open the open the rest. So we don't have 800,000 people who aren't getting paychecks.

00:10:04.340 Maybe we have 30,000 that aren't getting paychecks for now and fight the battle, you know, at the border, literally where it should be fought.

00:10:11.760 And, you know, it'll it'll he'll relinquish some leverage.

00:10:15.380 But it would be more true, I guess, to me, for me, for being a base supporter.

00:10:20.460 That's what the fight's really about.

00:10:22.080 Host of America on the on Blaze TV every night.

00:10:28.460 Eric Bolling talking to him. One last question.

00:10:31.260 Do you think the national emergency talk, where did that come from?

00:10:34.940 Because everyone was expecting him to declare a national emergency or to threaten the national emergency.

00:10:41.480 And I was just going to do that. Is that off the table or is that ever on the table?

00:10:46.080 No, no, I know. I think it's still on the table.

00:10:47.960 In fact, you know, a good friend of mine, Jonathan Swan, who's a reporter for Axios, but also has excellent sources inside the White House.

00:10:55.400 I'll just let you know, I talk to the White House a lot.

00:10:57.620 Right. I've called them, emailed them the last few days.

00:11:00.540 I haven't been. No one's returned my call.

00:11:02.400 I mean, I get emails back saying, hey, sorry, we're really swamped.

00:11:05.220 We can't talk right now. So they're keeping it very tight.

00:11:07.760 But Swan, who's got very good access inside, good sources, says that the national emergency is not off the table.

00:11:15.100 My gut is, based on all the reporting that we've seen in the last 12 hours, that's where Trump wants to go with it.

00:11:22.180 His advisers are probably saying, hold off. Let's try, you know, nine o'clock news conference, nine o'clock present address from the OVO.

00:11:29.380 Let's try going to the border to gain some support.

00:11:31.940 My guess is Trump is still willing to pull that nuclear option if need be.

00:11:35.780 And again, he marches to the beat of his own drum, right?

00:11:38.840 They don't listen to anyone else, but he's probably trying exhausting all other avenues first.

00:11:43.000 So it might happen. I, you know, and I, Glenn, I think it's a mistake to do that.

00:11:47.200 I think he'd be better off opening the rest of the government state and fight the border battle at the border with the DHS.

00:11:53.620 Couldn't agree with you more. Eric, thank you so much. Appreciate it.

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00:14:09.060 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:14:24.180 What did you think last night, Stu, yourself?

00:14:28.100 I thought it was pretty good.

00:14:30.680 He, I think, laid out a case that there's a lot of people who didn't know about the border.

00:14:36.020 Some of it, you know, he's, you could tell that it wasn't, it wasn't controversial enough for the media because they, like, their fact checks are just silly.

00:14:45.320 Like, they're little side claims.

00:14:46.740 But the main claims he's making about the border are really, are true.

00:14:50.160 And I think it was an effective case.

00:14:51.800 I think he did a good job on it.

00:14:52.960 I know that's not his style.

00:14:54.320 I thought we got a, I mean, I thought there was a lot out of that Eric Bolling interview.

00:14:57.040 I mean, you know, I think Eric is a big supporter saying he should open up the other parts of the government.

00:15:01.260 It's pretty significant.

00:15:02.140 You know, I think Eric, you know, he didn't have inside information on this, but he thinks the case is, it's true that Trump said, basically, I don't even want to do this.

00:15:11.220 It's not, you know, it's not, it's New York Times reporting saying that, hey, this isn't, I don't want to do this.

00:15:16.440 And I, you know, it's not going to be effective.

00:15:17.800 It's not going to move the needle.

00:15:19.180 And that was kind of Eric's take as well.

00:15:20.780 I think it's interesting that his take, that Eric who said that, that Trump, his move is to declare national emergency, which I absolutely buy into.

00:15:33.380 That is the way he kind of moves.

00:15:35.880 Right.

00:15:36.060 Which is, and as Eric said.

00:15:37.880 Big, bold, brash.

00:15:39.680 Didn't like it either.

00:15:40.520 Yeah.

00:15:40.700 You know, I don't think, I haven't heard anything really honestly from the audience or anything of people who said, you know what, I really want the border wall and I want it done with a national emergency.

00:15:49.840 I mean, I think all the supporters we've talked to have said, I really don't want to do it that way, but I really want the border wall.

00:15:56.880 And that's a totally sensible place to be.

00:15:58.680 But the problem is you're not going to get the border wall.

00:16:02.240 This is, this is why Trump was elected.

00:16:05.600 And if, if this just plays out the typical way, he may have a hard time making a case in 2020 because he should have done this in the first year.

00:16:18.620 That was his, that was the crown jewel.

00:16:21.140 That's what got him elected was the border wall.

00:16:23.980 And for him not to make that the number one priority, instead to fall on his sword.

00:16:29.900 Now, when the Democrats, the Democrats have control of the house and you know, you're not going to get it.

00:16:37.200 You're not going to get it through.

00:16:38.480 The problem is, is that the Republicans and the Democrats, nobody wants to build this border wall.

00:16:45.440 Nobody.

00:16:46.860 Except for the American people. 0.63

00:16:48.580 It's interesting too, because I don't know what the reasoning for him, uh, not taking the deal a year ago on the border wall was, uh, again, but it was DACA and trade for not just $5 billion of funding.

00:17:02.500 The entire border wall funding was going to fund 30, it was $30 billion or something.

00:17:06.180 They were, they were going to trade for DACA.

00:17:07.960 And now they're trying to get DACA for just the 5.7.

00:17:11.180 I know.

00:17:11.420 And it's not happening.

00:17:12.300 And it kills me that, uh, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi say it's ineffective and expensive at $5 billion when they were the ones that offered 30, $30 billion.

00:17:24.900 That is an interesting point.

00:17:26.080 Yeah. 0.99

00:17:26.740 Uh, yeah, no, I, I mean, they're just obviously nuts.

00:17:29.620 If you saw the thing afterwards, it was weird minute to minute.

00:17:32.800 None of it means anything to these people.

00:17:34.540 No people like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.

00:17:36.940 And there's plenty of examples on the Republican side that have been entrenched in Washington, Washington for a million years. 0.98

00:17:41.360 And they, they all look insane. 0.86

00:17:43.880 I mean, Nancy, look, again, you could talk about policy, but you have to separate the fact that Nancy Pelosi looks insane every time she's on television. 1.00

00:17:51.620 I don't know what surgery she's been doing or how much Botox she's poured into the face. 0.97

00:17:56.720 Whatever it is, her eyes are super duper wide.

00:17:59.040 She's got the crazy, she's got the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez eyes going on. 0.97

00:18:02.420 That's happening.

00:18:03.140 It's happening to Nancy.

00:18:04.360 This is your future, Alexandria.

00:18:05.960 If you keep going down this road, your eyes will get crazier and crazier.

00:18:08.480 And the smile and I mean, just aesthetically, it was a weird moment.

00:18:13.320 You know, Trump, especially it looked like it was in a hall to the bathroom, didn't it look?

00:18:18.500 It didn't look like a big stately hallway.

00:18:20.980 It looked like a government hallway that, yeah, your bathrooms down this hall to the left.

00:18:27.140 And like Eric mentioned, all the pictures going around the comparisons.

00:18:30.480 I mean, they are really funny, like the two farmers from that old school painting standing there.

00:18:36.280 They really look similar to them.

00:18:38.120 That husband and wife team.

00:18:40.060 You're right.

00:18:41.180 Chuck should have been doing it holding a pitchfork and then it would have made a lot of sense.

00:18:45.140 Yes.

00:18:45.260 But I think, honestly, if you look at the speech in and of itself, you read that thing, you read the text of it.

00:18:51.180 I mean, you can quibble with some of the details.

00:18:53.340 But generally speaking, what he's laying out is a case that we have a serious problem with drugs in this country.

00:18:58.880 And there's we have a serious humanitarian problem on the border.

00:19:03.260 And it's a problem that no one wants to solve.

00:19:04.800 And it's time we solve it.

00:19:05.740 Right.

00:19:05.960 And I think the American people do engage with that.

00:19:08.040 I don't think that the American people, you know, I was a big fan of the way Ross Perot used charts, you know, back in the day.

00:19:16.300 I don't know why Oval Office addresses are not produced.

00:19:21.440 You know, I would just I would love to go in and help produce just the Oval Office addresses.

00:19:29.320 Just let me let me help you.

00:19:30.800 Let me help you.

00:19:31.360 Just here's a chalkboard.

00:19:33.220 Here's a chart.

00:19:34.500 Here's something.

00:19:35.320 But if you just would have shown the charts last night, I mean, here's this is from the New York Times.

00:19:41.580 And if you happen to be watching online, I don't know if you can see this because of the brightness.

00:19:46.080 Can you zoom in?

00:19:47.800 Not really.

00:19:48.440 Can you?

00:19:49.860 It's an incredible.

00:19:50.940 It's an incredible chart about the deaths of opioids.

00:19:55.940 It is almost a straight line up from what is that?

00:20:01.100 2010 2012.

00:20:03.380 Almost straight line up.

00:20:05.320 And he mentioned this last night that more people will die of drug overdoses this year than died in the entire Vietnam War.

00:20:12.480 That's stunning.

00:20:13.580 Stunning.

00:20:14.260 Stunning.

00:20:14.940 And it's happening every year and it's happening all over the country.

00:20:17.800 It's, you know, like back in the 80s crack epidemic, which was is dwarfed by what's happening with opioids right now.

00:20:24.540 It's not even close.

00:20:25.060 But back then, like, you know, you could make the there.

00:20:27.560 There's a separation, I think, for the American people.

00:20:30.580 There was even if you lived in cities, it was those.

00:20:33.760 It was bad areas of the city was high crime areas of cities.

00:20:36.800 Right.

00:20:37.280 Right here.

00:20:38.240 This is everywhere.

00:20:39.340 It's on every street.

00:20:40.820 Every street.

00:20:41.560 There's problems with this.

00:20:42.320 It hits every family.

00:20:43.440 I mean, Eric had to deal with this in a major way.

00:20:46.480 We're all going to deal with this in a major way.

00:20:48.540 Yeah.

00:20:48.820 All going to deal with this.

00:20:50.040 It is that bad.

00:20:50.920 This is, you know, they say, oh, no, the opioid epidemic.

00:20:53.960 Well, they so overuse crisis and epidemic and everything else that you're like, what?

00:21:00.900 You know, the war on drugs doesn't mean anything anymore.

00:21:05.500 But when you see how this is reaching in to the heart of America and just destroying us, this this again, bigger than the peak of gun crimes, car crashes.

00:21:20.740 What was the third one?

00:21:22.520 HIV.

00:21:23.960 Dwarfs those things, literally dwarfs them. 0.91

00:21:27.740 It's it's a it's a real problem, America.

00:21:31.420 And you look at the number of the number of deaths and crime and mutilations and beheadings that are happening here in the country from MS-13.

00:21:45.600 That is four times as many people killed by MS-13 in a year.

00:21:51.820 Then all of the school shootings, same period of time.

00:21:57.020 What what are we doing?

00:21:58.080 Four times as many killed.

00:22:01.080 And nobody's even talking about it.

00:22:03.360 And the way to solve that is getting serious on the border.

00:22:07.800 But nobody is serious about it.

00:22:12.140 So we will continue to get opinion and your opinion.

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00:23:30.120 One of the shows you're going to get Pat Gray on leash.

00:23:31.900 Pat joins us next.

00:23:40.880 Every day, Customs and Border Protection agents encounter thousands of illegal immigrants trying to enter our country.

00:23:48.820 We don't have the space to hold them.

00:23:51.940 We don't have any way to promptly return people back to their home country. 0.65

00:23:55.940 We have always proudly, proudly welcomed millions of lawful immigrants to enrich our society and to contribute to our nation.

00:24:06.840 But everybody is hurt by uncontrolled illegal immigration.

00:24:12.520 It strains public resources.

00:24:14.900 It drives our jobs down.

00:24:16.560 It drives wages down.

00:24:18.140 And the hardest hit are African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans. 1.00

00:24:24.600 Our southern border is a pipeline for vast quantities of illegal drugs, including meth and heroin and cocaine and fentanyl.

00:24:32.220 And every single week in this country, 300 Americans die from heroin alone.

00:24:40.940 And 90 percent of heroin flow, floods across our southern border.

00:24:47.220 More Americans will die from drugs this year.

00:24:51.660 Than died in the entire Vietnam War.

00:24:58.700 Shouldn't we try to do something different?

00:25:03.520 In the last two years, ICE officers made 266,000 arrests of aliens with criminal records, including those charged or convicted of 100,000 assaults, 30,000 sex crimes, 4,000 violent killings,

00:25:33.520 come into our country illegally, and thousands more will lose their life if we don't act. 1.00

00:25:41.280 This is a humanitarian crisis.

00:25:44.780 This is a crisis of the heart.

00:25:48.560 This is a crisis of the soul.

00:25:51.660 Everyone loses.

00:25:53.120 That was coming from the president's speech last night.

00:25:59.820 Those things are accurate.

00:26:03.880 Did they fall on deaf ears all across the country?

00:26:08.860 Do we not care about the real victims here?

00:26:13.840 The victims that are on both sides of the border.

00:26:17.320 When the president spoke about the murders, the illegal alien that came across the border, the life of an American hero, stolen by someone who didn't have the right to even be in our country. 0.97

00:26:38.680 In California, an Air Force veteran was raped, murdered, and then beaten to death with a hammer.

00:26:47.320 This is not just a veteran. 0.88

00:26:50.440 This was someone's daughter, beaten to death by a hammer in the hands of an illegal alien with a long criminal history. 0.65

00:27:03.560 And now the Democrats in California are saying, we're going to welcome everyone in.

00:27:10.300 We want to welcome those people into our country that have a reason to be here.

00:27:17.320 And that we want here.

00:27:19.440 And that they want to be here. 0.94

00:27:21.500 Not to rape and kill us. 0.91

00:27:25.060 But to make us better. 0.91

00:27:30.400 The president had everything he needed last night.

00:27:34.260 He had all of the facts.

00:27:37.560 He had the story.

00:27:39.320 But I don't think it was effective.

00:27:44.500 He's not a good storyteller.

00:27:47.640 But it wasn't effective.

00:27:49.200 But the good news is Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer were worse.

00:27:52.740 Pat Gray is joining us now from Pat Gray Unleashed, which is the podcast you can hear live every day prior to this show on the Blaze Radio Network.

00:28:03.020 But also you can download the podcast wherever you listen to podcasts.

00:28:06.740 Pat, your thought?

00:28:08.080 I thought the content was great.

00:28:10.360 Almost perfect.

00:28:11.900 But like you said, the style was not good.

00:28:15.380 That's not his forte.

00:28:16.940 No.

00:28:17.300 Reading from a teleprompter is not what he does best.

00:28:19.720 No.

00:28:20.040 And everybody knows that.

00:28:21.100 And so I think it kind of diminished the effectiveness of it.

00:28:24.960 But I think he touched on a lot of the right notes.

00:28:27.820 Almost all the right notes.

00:28:29.080 He talked about the suffering of the illegal aliens themselves, which we should have started that discussion 30 years ago.

00:28:38.960 That's the approach we should have made was how this affects them.

00:28:42.580 And then it takes away completely the racist thing. 0.98

00:28:45.160 You're a hate monger thing. 0.98

00:28:46.900 The xenophobia. 0.56

00:28:48.700 Talking about how bad this is for the people who are dying on the way here and not doing well once they get here because they're not encouraged to do well.

00:28:56.700 You can go further than that.

00:28:58.640 You can go further than that.

00:29:00.440 You can.

00:29:01.160 And we have.

00:29:02.200 We have.

00:29:02.760 I've talked about.

00:29:03.800 Look, if I were in their situation and I thought America didn't care about the border, I'd be taking my kids across.

00:29:10.240 Absolutely.

00:29:10.660 I would absolutely do that.

00:29:12.300 And it's treated like a speeding ticket.

00:29:14.220 It's not much of anything.

00:29:15.660 And look what California is doing with Newsom.

00:29:17.780 Correct.

00:29:18.340 He's encouraging everybody to come to California.

00:29:20.380 Correct.

00:29:21.240 So I would do that if I were in their situation.

00:29:24.420 They're being conned because they're being told you can come here and live like an American.

00:29:31.380 No, you can't.

00:29:32.320 You're going to live in the shadows.

00:29:34.160 You're going to live in fear.

00:29:35.520 But beyond that, what has changed is now people are sending just their kids across.

00:29:41.900 That is wildly dangerous for families and kids to do wildly dangerous.

00:29:47.180 They're being exploited by the drug lords.

00:29:49.680 We have shown this over and over again.

00:29:52.180 And now the last straw is that the left and those from the open border society are funding these caravans and they are using these desperate people.

00:30:05.740 Some of them, not all of them, these desperate people, they're using them and conning them and saying, oh, no, you're going to get in and it's going to be great.

00:30:14.740 They don't care about those people.

00:30:16.600 Not at all.

00:30:17.320 It's despicable what they're doing and to bring up their past support for the wall, which in some cases was a couple of years ago, three years ago, before just before him.

00:30:28.280 They still wanted border security.

00:30:29.920 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:30:31.580 We're not going to even allow that to happen.

00:30:34.400 They offered 30 billion dollars.

00:30:38.120 Well, last year.

00:30:39.040 Yes.

00:30:39.380 Yes.

00:30:39.800 Last year.

00:30:40.400 So when when Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer come out and say it's ineffective and expensive and immoral and immoral, you you sold 30 billion dollars.

00:30:53.360 You were saying I'll take I'll give you 30 billion dollars for the dream act that needs to be hammered home, man.

00:31:01.080 And the Republicans are so ineffective at that.

00:31:03.240 We've talked a million times about how bad Republicans are.

00:31:06.240 They don't want defending the border wall either.

00:31:08.320 No, it's not their position on this case.

00:31:10.780 It's not their position.

00:31:12.000 But for Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer to stand there like the American Gothic portrait, the only thing lacking was a pitchfork in Schumer's hand.

00:31:22.300 And to tell us that it's immoral and ineffective and a manufactured crisis when here they are, the most amoral people to ever hold office.

00:31:32.180 The people who want slaughter of children to continue, not just in this country.

00:31:35.760 They're trying to fund it around the world and they support every degradation known to mankind.

00:31:40.860 Then they say that a wall or a fence is immoral.

00:31:42.920 I can't.

00:31:43.760 It's hard to take.

00:31:44.580 It's really hard to take.

00:31:46.440 And I think Republicans need to do a much better job at defending their principles and values.

00:31:53.480 They don't have any principles and values.

00:31:55.860 Now, some of most of them don't.

00:31:57.760 Most of them don't.

00:31:58.820 That is true.

00:31:59.620 Some do.

00:32:00.540 Most of them don't.

00:32:01.740 At least the the border wall is not a principle or value that that they or a policy that they believe in.

00:32:12.400 Those who are entrenched in power, they don't believe in it.

00:32:15.960 It's why it's why Donald Trump didn't do the deal.

00:32:21.880 Yeah, I don't do the deal.

00:32:24.000 And it's not him.

00:32:24.980 It was the Democratic or it was sorry.

00:32:27.500 It was the Republican Congress.

00:32:29.360 Well, he didn't want that deal, though.

00:32:30.760 I mean, he didn't want that deal.

00:32:32.840 And I don't fault him for that, by the way.

00:32:35.600 DACA for 30 billion dollars is not what I would say is a great deal.

00:32:39.440 No, but I'd take it now.

00:32:40.800 I know.

00:32:41.220 I think I'd take it now.

00:32:42.380 That's what's amazing, though.

00:32:43.400 I mean, it shows how far this is bent back against.

00:32:46.180 Yes.

00:32:46.700 Overton window.

00:32:47.300 Yeah, Republicans.

00:32:48.720 And, you know, again, this is why you try these things when you're in power.

00:32:51.660 Right.

00:32:51.900 You don't do you don't get good deals when you don't have the power.

00:32:54.980 He had the power back in, you know, 2018.

00:32:58.900 And now he doesn't.

00:32:59.800 So the deals get worse.

00:33:00.760 I will say, to Trump's credit, he is the only president since Eisenhower to try to

00:33:06.620 really do something about this.

00:33:07.760 He's actually trying to do something about this.

00:33:11.560 George W. Bush certainly didn't.

00:33:13.920 In fact, I remember he was on a European tour when the fence and immigration was being debated.

00:33:21.700 Remember that?

00:33:22.080 When I come back, when I come back, we're going to comprehensive immigration reform through.

00:33:27.320 And the Republicans were like, no, you're not.

00:33:30.100 No, no, you're not.

00:33:31.440 Because we know what comprehensive immigration reform is.

00:33:33.760 It's amnesty.

00:33:34.460 So he's been fighting against it.

00:33:36.760 I mean, he even sued Texas when they were trying to bring the death penalty to that guy who

00:33:41.880 murdered the two teenagers in Houston in 93.

00:33:45.060 Yep. 0.97

00:33:45.400 I will say, at least at some level in Bush's defense, they passed the freaking fence when 0.98

00:33:50.620 he was president. 0.95

00:33:51.320 80 to 19.

00:33:52.280 They did.

00:33:52.920 You know, Donald Trump had two years of complete control of the government and was not able

00:33:56.660 to get with that threat.

00:33:57.240 And then thank you, Kay Bailey Hutchison, a Republican.

00:33:59.460 Yes, supposedly.

00:34:00.500 For basically reversing it.

00:34:01.560 For basically taking the meat out of that.

00:34:04.360 I mean, it is frustrating.

00:34:06.440 And everybody is talking out of both sides.

00:34:08.440 I'm sort of stuck at the letting your kid go across the border thing.

00:34:13.900 Now, look, if you're in the middle of what we always hear of the worst case scenarios,

00:34:17.520 right, where there's a bunch of gangs around your house and you let your kid escape out

00:34:21.680 the back and go to the border.

00:34:23.220 Of course, we all understand that.

00:34:24.820 But there's another percentage of people here who are sending their kids for economic reasons.

00:34:29.280 And I got to believe there's a slice in there that just are sick of their kids.

00:34:32.980 And they're just like, go across the border.

00:34:34.840 Go away. 0.86

00:34:35.920 You're annoying. 0.99

00:34:37.320 I'm sick of you on Snapchat.

00:34:39.500 America is the beautiful.

00:34:40.500 So, in other words, what you're saying is we should start saying, you know, kids, Canada.

00:34:44.480 Canada.

00:34:45.340 The Americans are beautiful this time of year.

00:34:47.580 Go.

00:34:48.260 Go.

00:34:49.020 Thanks, Pat.

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00:35:09.720 Might as well.

00:35:10.940 Let me tell you about the Palm Beach Letter.

00:35:12.880 Palm Beach Letter is all about cryptocurrencies.

00:35:16.000 Now, cryptocurrencies kind of had a rough, what, 14 months, 12 months.

00:35:23.780 Hadn't noticed, Glenn.

00:35:24.660 Hadn't noticed?

00:35:25.500 No.

00:35:25.960 Really?

00:35:26.420 Yeah.

00:35:26.800 I mean, it depends on when you bought, right?

00:35:29.180 I mean, a lot of people did.

00:35:30.080 I will say a lot of people bought, if they listen to this show, we were talking about cryptocurrencies two years before the rise in cryptocurrencies.

00:35:39.640 So, if you were listening to us in that period, you're fine.

00:35:41.760 Like, you're up three, four, five times your money still, even though there's been a massive drop.

00:35:46.400 I thought I was even late, and I'm still up four times my money.

00:35:51.000 Yeah.

00:35:51.380 So, I mean, there was a great period, and there's been a lot of growth.

00:35:53.840 It's funny, if you look at the charts of cryptocurrency, and you kind of take out that big bubble that happened legitimately for about three or four months, there was a big bubble there.

00:36:02.880 But if you look at it without that, I mean, it's a really encouraging chart.

00:36:06.440 You're like, whoa, it's up four times in two years.

00:36:09.600 Yeah.

00:36:09.720 I don't know any stock.

00:36:10.560 There's not a lot of stocks that have done that.

00:36:11.980 Yeah.

00:36:12.160 I can tell you, if you had your money in the bank account, you were looking at that, and you're like, okay, I've made 2%.

00:36:17.240 If I'm lucky, per year, it's not even.

00:36:20.520 It's probably 2% now, but it's probably 1% over the last couple of years.

00:36:24.100 You're a lot happier if you were in cryptocurrency.

00:36:25.940 Yeah, we were, you know, you're in trouble if you were buying it at, you know, $10,000, $16,000, $20,000.

00:36:33.940 It's a short period of time it was there, though.

00:36:35.700 Yeah, yeah.

00:36:36.640 And then now you just, I wouldn't lose your money.

00:36:39.660 I would just hold on.

00:36:41.800 Hold on as long as you possibly can, because it eventually will come back.

00:36:47.240 Because cryptocurrency is the future, I'm absolutely convinced.

00:36:51.880 I mean, unless there is some sort of China-like situation to where it's all just banned in the United States and, you know, it's just the whole world is on lockdown, which could happen.

00:37:05.420 Cryptocurrency and blockchain is going to make a difference in the world.

00:37:11.160 It is going to be the freedom key.

00:37:14.620 I want you to take a course on this, a smart crypto course.

00:37:18.400 You've got to educate yourself first.

00:37:20.400 smartcryptocourse.com, or you can call 877-PBL-BACK, 877-PBL-BACK.

00:37:27.280 This is a course that we asked one of the, you know, the bigger names in cryptocurrency to design for this audience so you could do your own homework.

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00:37:41.040 There's a current bid now at Heritage Auctions for $120,000.

00:37:51.920 It's going to go for much more than this.

00:37:55.500 The original bronze penny that the Treasury Department denied even existed for about a year from 1943.

00:38:06.440 Most people don't remember or don't know that we made steel pennies in 43, 44, and I think part of 45 because we needed copper for the wiring, for telephones and ships and planes and everything else.

00:38:23.880 So we stopped using copper.

00:38:25.820 Well, they made these bronze pennies, and they made about 30 of them as they were testing.

00:38:31.620 Somehow or another, these 30 pennies dislodged from the machines as they were cutting the steel pennies, and they were put into circulation.

00:38:42.120 The rumor was that, or the legend is, that Henry Ford said, I'm going to give any man a car who finds a bronze penny, okay?

00:38:54.000 And so it was a big deal that these things were out there.

00:38:57.220 But again, the Treasury said that's not true.

00:38:59.100 Until a kid was standing in a lunch line, and he paid for his lunch, and he got change back, and in there was a bronze penny from 1943, and he noticed it.

00:39:13.880 It was late in 43 or 44, and he looks at it, and he sees it's 1943 and notices that it's not steel.

00:39:24.300 Well, the first time it sold, it went for $1.7 million.

00:39:33.480 It's going up for auction for the very first time now since that time period.

00:39:40.120 The kid actually called Henry Ford and said, hey, can I get a car for this?

00:39:45.920 And he was told that that was just a rumor, and Henry Ford wasn't doing that.

00:39:51.140 He should have taken the deal.

00:39:54.500 This is up for auction now.

00:39:56.520 Current bid, $120,000.

00:39:59.200 We will see how much it goes for.

00:40:07.440 But a 1943 bronze penny up for sale for the very first time.

00:40:15.000 And there's only just a handful of these that we even know even exist.

00:40:21.200 This is the first one found and the most famous.

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00:41:42.000 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:41:45.680 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:41:48.400 Trump's speech on immigration and the democratic response.

00:41:53.600 Today, we're trying to get all of the different voices throughout the entire spectrum of the conservative movement.

00:42:02.660 We begin this hour with Andrew Klavan, then Ben Ferguson, then Steve Dace.

00:42:07.740 We'll touch on our opinion as well.

00:42:10.620 We also have Matt Kibbe, Stephen Kent, John Miller, and so much more joining us.

00:42:16.060 What is the end game?

00:42:20.480 What is the effect of what happened last night, if anything?

00:42:25.280 We begin with Andrew Klavan right now.

00:42:27.780 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:42:48.240 We want to tell you a little bit about superfoods.

00:42:53.320 Superfoods is pretty much a lie.

00:42:54.900 Yeah, pretty much a lie.

00:42:55.960 Well, it's a lie if it has supplemental facts or supplemental...

00:43:01.360 Supplement facts, right?

00:43:02.320 Yeah, supplement facts.

00:43:03.500 It's not an actual...

00:43:04.700 When you buy food, it doesn't say supplement facts.

00:43:07.700 Right.

00:43:08.040 So if it's a superfood, it really shouldn't say supplement facts.

00:43:10.720 If you're eating a carrot or, God forbid, kale, it doesn't say,

00:43:15.360 oh, by the way, there's a supplement that goes with that.

00:43:17.720 I'm not eating kale and a supplement.

00:43:20.960 That's why Field of Greens is so good.

00:43:24.300 This is the actual superfood.

00:43:27.080 There are no supplements added to this, so you don't have to eat kale.

00:43:31.700 You don't have to eat your greens.

00:43:33.240 You don't have to even have fruit if you don't want it.

00:43:36.240 You just spoonful of this stuff into anything that you're drinking,

00:43:40.040 and it actually tastes pretty good,

00:43:42.320 and you don't have to have a salad ever again.

00:43:45.640 It's your hall pass from salad land.

00:43:47.740 Makes me so happy.

00:43:48.520 I saw my son-in-law eating...

00:43:50.240 I think it was a sandwich without any bread.

00:43:52.680 It was wrapped, I think, in kale.

00:43:54.620 Oh, my gosh.

00:43:55.440 Oh, my gosh.

00:43:55.900 That's not a sandwich.

00:43:56.660 When you're wrapping it in kale, it's not a sandwich.

00:43:58.940 I looked at that, and I'm like, you've got...

00:44:01.500 I know it's my daughter, but you need a divorce. 1.00

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00:44:13.980 We pause now for 10 seconds, I D.

00:44:25.640 Mr. Andrew Clavin joins us on the Glenn Beck program.

00:44:28.980 Andrew, how are you, sir?

00:44:30.280 I'm good.

00:44:30.860 How are you doing?

00:44:31.640 Good.

00:44:31.900 So, what's the view from the state of California, where you have your new governor saying,

00:44:39.800 hey, we're going to welcome everybody?

00:44:42.020 Well, that's right.

00:44:43.180 In California, we're going to welcome everybody.

00:44:45.520 In New York City, they're now going to pay for the health care of everybody, no matter

00:44:49.080 what their immigration status is.

00:44:51.540 So, it really...

00:44:52.360 It's fair to ask, what is the overall belief that Trump is putting forward, and what's

00:44:57.320 the overall belief that the Democrats are putting forward?

00:44:59.920 Trump made a speech last night that we were told was going to be all lies and fear-mongering,

00:45:04.600 and it was all lies and fear-mongering, but not from Trump.

00:45:07.020 Trump was very direct.

00:45:08.220 He was very factual.

00:45:09.300 He was very controlled.

00:45:10.540 And the Democrats are basically talking this mealy-mouthed, you know, moral language that

00:45:16.780 doesn't have any real meaning when it comes to securing the border.

00:45:19.880 So, I think it's just fair to ask, what's the endgame?

00:45:22.280 And I think the endgame with Donald Trump, it seems to me, for whatever his personal flaws

00:45:27.220 are, he is putting forward a very rational case that a country has a right to control

00:45:31.780 its border, that people who cross the border illegally are committing a crime, and more

00:45:35.900 crimes will follow.

00:45:37.100 That's a perfectly valid argument, and that a wall would work, which is absolutely true.

00:45:42.140 What are the Democrats really saying?

00:45:44.100 They're saying, let's do things that won't exactly work.

00:45:46.420 Let's spend money on things that we've shown to be ineffective, because they want these

00:45:50.580 guys coming over into the country.

00:45:52.760 They think they're future Democrats.

00:45:54.480 They think that the idea of compassion is going to sell to minority voters who are already

00:46:00.380 here, and they're not really thinking about the good of the country.

00:46:03.620 I just thought it was embarrassing.

00:46:05.080 I thought the Democrats embarrassed themselves last night, and everything is made worse.

00:46:09.320 I mean, this is the big point for me.

00:46:10.820 Everything is made worse by the fact that the corporate media is simply now a spokesperson

00:46:15.900 a unified spokesperson for the Democrats.

00:46:19.060 I agree.

00:46:19.420 It's very hard to have a rational conversation when this immense corporate megaphone is only

00:46:25.980 selling propaganda for one side.

00:46:28.140 I have no problem with there being two parties in this country that disagree, but I have a

00:46:32.280 serious problem when ABC and CBS and NBC and CNN and the New York Times and the Washington

00:46:38.020 Post, under the guise of fact-checking, are essentially checking Trump's opinions versus

00:46:43.740 the Democrats' opinions and saying the Democrats' opinions are right.

00:46:46.720 I think that that is so distorting to our conversation.

00:46:49.320 It makes normal people get angry and overreact, and it means that the Democrats can say anything

00:46:55.140 they want and basically feel that they're wearing armor.

00:46:59.360 Nobody can touch them because the press will cover it up.

00:47:02.220 And I just think, you know, for all of Trump's flaws, all the hyperbole, all the kind of playing

00:47:07.160 fast and loose with the facts, he's not half as bad as the press is.

00:47:12.300 And he's 100% right about them, to slap them around.

00:47:16.040 You know I'm an absolutist when it comes to the First Amendment.

00:47:20.420 I don't think the government should touch the press, but I think the press needs to reform

00:47:23.920 itself.

00:47:24.340 I really do.

00:47:25.080 I think they are being very damaging to the country's conversation.

00:47:29.440 I don't think they're going to have any credibility left in a couple of years.

00:47:32.960 By the time we finish with the 2020 election, I just think it's over.

00:47:39.960 They're just not going to have any credibility, except for those who are playing the media

00:47:47.140 or, I'm sorry, the politics role.

00:47:50.740 If you're on the side of the Democrats and you are really actively engaged in that, you'll

00:48:00.580 gravitate towards the press still.

00:48:02.540 But I don't know anybody who's watching it anymore.

00:48:05.080 Do you, Andrew?

00:48:05.740 You know, I do know when I go to New York and I talk to liberals, I talk to my family

00:48:11.200 who are very liberals, I always, whenever I read the New York Times now, I find myself

00:48:14.740 thinking, who believes that?

00:48:16.380 And then I remember, I know people who believe it, you know, pick up the New York Times and

00:48:20.380 think this is the news, or as they used to say, this is the way it is.

00:48:24.460 And it really is shameful.

00:48:26.240 I mean, I was looking at their fact check of the president's speech, and it was everything

00:48:30.400 they could do to pick out some little thing that wasn't exactly 100% what they would say

00:48:36.420 it was, and then call them alive.

00:48:38.260 I mean, the Washington Post was running headlines that said things like, well, he says there

00:48:43.140 are hundreds of thousands of criminals coming over, but really, they're being charged with

00:48:46.520 all kinds of crimes.

00:48:47.740 So it has to be put into context.

00:48:49.540 I thought, no, it doesn't.

00:48:50.920 He was just telling the truth.

00:48:52.360 And, you know, you can slam, it's so easy to slam Trump because of the way he speaks

00:48:56.640 and the loose way he speaks with facts, but when he's doing a good job and the press doesn't

00:49:00.980 say, yeah, that speech was pretty much accurate and expressed his point of view, and here's 0.98

00:49:05.180 the other point of view, they just make fools of themselves. 0.76

00:49:08.220 I think, Andrew, that, you know, it's like if you talk to somebody who says, McDonald's 0.95

00:49:18.440 makes nothing good.

00:49:20.260 There's just nothing good, and you say, hang on just a second, have you had their French 1.00

00:49:26.420 fries?

00:49:27.040 Yes, and they're horrible.

00:49:28.600 I just dismiss them.

00:49:30.440 You can say, oh my gosh, this is horrible and this is horrible, but they make a great

00:49:35.080 French fry.

00:49:36.220 Then you have credibility.

00:49:37.960 They will, the press will never, ever give, in this case, Donald Trump, the McDonald's of

00:49:44.320 presidents, the credit for French fries.

00:49:47.640 When he makes something right, when he does something good, they still decimate him.

00:49:54.100 And they're posing as the kind of voice of the conscience of America.

00:49:58.320 They're posing as the people who deliver the facts to America.

00:50:02.280 And, you know, whenever I hear right-wingers go over the line and start to say angry stuff

00:50:07.980 and start to overreact to the way they see the world, I just know it's because they are

00:50:12.120 surrounded.

00:50:13.100 They're surrounded by this noise that the press throws up of Democrat talking points.

00:50:18.000 You know, why shouldn't it make people crazy?

00:50:20.360 Why shouldn't 64 million people go out and just say, you know what, I'm sending a guy

00:50:25.040 to Washington who's going to tell these people where to stick it.

00:50:28.220 So, you know, why shouldn't they feel like that?

00:50:30.180 Did you see anybody fact check the fact that the president wants a border wall that is expensive

00:50:38.300 and ineffective?

00:50:40.300 That's what they said.

00:50:41.180 Well, if it's expensive at $5 billion, why did a year ago Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer,

00:50:50.440 and the Democrats offer $30 billion in border security for the wall itself?

00:50:58.900 Did you hear anybody point that out?

00:51:01.120 Nobody pointed it out.

00:51:02.500 In fact, they tried in the New York Times, they tried to make it sound as if Trump were

00:51:06.420 exaggerating when he said Chuck Schumer has supported a wall numerous times.

00:51:10.500 He has, so has Nancy Pelosi, so did Barack Obama, so did Dianne Feinstein.

00:51:15.240 They have all been in favor of some kind of barrier.

00:51:19.300 Why?

00:51:19.580 Because when you put up a wall, it keeps people out.

00:51:22.200 It works every time.

00:51:23.520 It's so simple and so basic.

00:51:25.560 And it's just the fact that it's Trump's promise.

00:51:28.620 They really are just now so deranged by the presence of Trump.

00:51:32.480 He has driven them all so insane that they will, seriously, if he said that he liked air, 0.79

00:51:38.660 they would stop breathing.

00:51:39.480 I mean, they've really gone that far.

00:51:41.420 Last question.

00:51:42.380 I spoke to Eric Bolling this morning, who has a lot of connections in the White House.

00:51:49.560 He said that he believes it's true that the president thought this would be ineffective,

00:51:56.160 was only doing this because Shine and everybody else told him to.

00:51:59.820 He said he believes he's going to use the national emergency, which Eric said,

00:52:04.780 I was surprised by this, was wrong, and he didn't want that to happen.

00:52:09.660 Do you buy into that?

00:52:11.640 And should the president use emergency powers?

00:52:15.560 Well, I don't think he should.

00:52:17.240 But it's really amazing how much of the news about Trump is news about what the news people

00:52:23.400 think that Trump is going to do.

00:52:25.400 A lot of the sources talking from the Oval Office are people who think they're smarter

00:52:29.700 than the president.

00:52:30.700 You know, they're the typical kind of underling who thinks that their boss who works on his 1.00

00:52:35.900 gut is an idiot where they went to a good school and they really know the truth. 1.00

00:52:39.420 And they're leaking out stuff, saying, ah, Trump is a fool, Trump is this and that. 1.00

00:52:42.980 Trump has a good gut. 1.00

00:52:44.340 He actually does have a good sense of what he can do politically and what should be done

00:52:49.020 politically.

00:52:49.980 He's pretty good at that, you know, despite the fact of the way he talks.

00:52:54.180 And I'm just really, really distrustful of source news out of the Oval Office right now.

00:52:59.100 I think it is very distorted and the press is very gullible with it.

00:53:03.420 Andrew Klavan from DailyWire.com.

00:53:05.640 You can watch him every day.

00:53:07.300 It's always good to talk to you, Andrew.

00:53:09.420 Love talking to you, Glenn.

00:53:10.200 Thanks a lot.

00:53:10.700 You bet.

00:53:11.020 Bye-bye.

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00:53:15.940 We have Ben Ferguson from Blaze TV.

00:53:18.020 We're going to get his opinion on what happened last night, what this means coming up in just

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00:54:43.260 From the Blaze TV, it is Ben Ferguson now.

00:55:00.300 Ben Ferguson joins us on the Glenn Beck program.

00:55:03.420 How you doing, Ben?

00:55:04.740 Good morning, sir.

00:55:05.740 How are you?

00:55:06.400 I'm good.

00:55:07.040 So, I'm anxious to hear what a millennial thinks about the president's speech last night

00:55:15.280 and how you believe this is being processed today.

00:55:19.420 Did it make any difference?

00:55:21.380 I think it can make a small difference.

00:55:23.640 I think what the president needs to do now is actually more important than last night.

00:55:28.080 Last night was a reminder of the country, a reconnect with the country about what this

00:55:32.320 issue is about.

00:55:32.880 It's not just about an identity wall with Trump's name on it, which is, Democrats have

00:55:38.740 done a brilliant job of turning this issue into.

00:55:41.160 This is about his ego.

00:55:42.940 It's about his obsession with the wall.

00:55:44.760 It's about Donald Trump.

00:55:46.720 And what the president did lay out last night, I thought, was actually really smart.

00:55:50.560 He talked about how this is an issue for safety, especially of women.

00:55:55.000 Remember, conservatives need to challenge Democrats on this.

00:55:58.500 Democrats have, for my entire lifetime, said they are the party of women. 0.92

00:56:02.100 Women are being abused at the border.

00:56:04.320 One in three are sexually assaulted coming into this country. 0.98

00:56:07.280 Women are being abused, illegal immigrants and American citizens, by illegal immigrants 1.00

00:56:11.700 in this country.

00:56:12.600 And I think the president needs to take it to the Democrats on that and say, where are you?

00:56:16.600 You're the party that claims that you always are right on women's rights. 0.99

00:56:20.680 How are you not protecting these women?

00:56:22.640 I think the second thing the president mentioned last night, which he needs to now really go sell

00:56:26.660 the American people, especially when he's at the border, is the issue of drugs.

00:56:30.200 You look at drugs in this country, and there are a lot of undecided, middle-of-the-road people 0.99

00:56:37.220 that aren't hard Trump supporters or hard Democrat supporters that have been affected by family

00:56:41.880 members who have died of overdoses of drugs, fentanyl, cocaine, heroin.

00:56:47.660 All of those are coming across our southern border.

00:56:50.000 And I think that's an issue where the president can win big time with younger people, millennials,

00:56:53.880 and with people that maybe don't pay that much attention to politics and say, this is not

00:57:00.040 take me out of it.

00:57:01.600 Take my name off this wall.

00:57:03.560 This is not about a wall.

00:57:05.080 This is about drugs.

00:57:06.480 This is about overdoses.

00:57:08.180 This is the same issue that I talked about with prison reform and actually appeal to people

00:57:13.640 on that issue.

00:57:14.440 And then the last one is, I think the president needs to talk about the hypocrisy and expand

00:57:19.540 on it even more of how Democrats are now somehow obsessed with these 800,000 government workers

00:57:24.600 who are not going to get paid right now.

00:57:27.400 The mass majority of them, if not all of them, are going to get paid for not working during

00:57:30.980 this time when they're on furlough.

00:57:32.700 They're going to get their money back.

00:57:34.160 That doesn't happen in the real world, by the way. 0.90

00:57:36.100 But the hypocrisy of the Democrats on this economic issue.

00:57:40.200 Democrats don't care about the American worker. 1.00

00:57:42.540 If they did, they would have been fighting to secure the border so that Americans would 1.00

00:57:46.640 not be underpaid and undercut by illegal immigrant work.

00:57:49.900 That those that are not fully employed, but part-time employed, because they're undercut

00:57:54.840 by illegal immigrant workers, they would have been protecting and defending them.

00:57:58.120 They would have been protecting and defending the American workers who have lost jobs because

00:58:01.500 of illegal immigrant workers.

00:58:03.360 I mean, these are issues that have nothing to do with just the flat, simple issue of millions

00:58:08.220 of people coming across the border illegally and how we need this wall.

00:58:11.420 And I think the president's now got to go out there.

00:58:13.640 He's got to sell it and break it down into these categories.

00:58:17.000 Because when you do that, it basically brings new attention to the issue or reminder of

00:58:23.500 what is coming across the border.

00:58:25.460 And then it's not just Trump and his, quote, wall.

00:58:28.140 And again, I give credit to the Democrats.

00:58:30.040 They've done a fabulous job of turning this into an ego-driven idea.

00:58:35.260 When in reality, it's the idea that got the president to the White House.

00:58:38.800 And it's an idea that Democrats themselves, Bill Clinton, Obama, Hillary Clinton, I mean,

00:58:44.180 even you've seen the videos, you've heard the audio, Glenn, of Schumer, hardcore on illegal

00:58:50.060 immigration reform.

00:58:51.340 The only thing that changed is that Donald Trump is now in favor of the wall and the

00:58:56.000 Democrats hate Donald Trump.

00:58:57.460 And anything Donald Trump's in favor of, the Democrats will oppose.

00:59:01.940 Talking to Ben Ferguson from BlazeTV.com.

00:59:05.420 You can see his show on the Blaze TV.

00:59:09.280 Ben, what do you think the right approach is here when you're selling this to America?

00:59:12.560 Because, you know, there's a couple stats between the overdoses being more than the

00:59:17.580 Vietnam War deaths in a year.

00:59:19.200 I mean, that's a fascinating stat.

00:59:20.460 You brought up the one in three women who are being brought here are sexually assaulted

00:59:25.120 on these journeys, illegally crossing the border.

00:59:27.680 What's the argument that connects with America so they don't see this as a partisan issue?

00:59:33.480 Yeah, I think the president needs to take this to the local level.

00:59:36.620 And I think he needs to go to these states, each one of these border states.

00:59:41.480 And I think he needs to have town halls.

00:59:43.540 I remember Barack Obama doing them brilliantly, where you bring in people that have been affected

00:59:48.520 by the issue that you're talking about.

00:59:49.820 He did this with health care reform.

00:59:52.000 And take himself out of it and bring the governors up and bring the congressmen and the mayors

00:59:57.120 and the sheriffs up.

00:59:58.680 I would even argue do the same type of town hall that CNN did after the school shooting

01:00:03.280 in Florida.

01:00:04.340 Have the local people that are affected the most and highlight them.

01:00:08.160 That's how you sell this.

01:00:09.500 Because I do believe that if the president wants to get this done, he's got to be very

01:00:13.700 strategic about taking himself and his personality out of this.

01:00:17.720 Because the Democrats, again, they have played this brilliantly, that this wall is only about

01:00:23.340 Donald Trump's ego.

01:00:25.300 It's nothing else.

01:00:26.880 And he needs to let other people's stories shine here and talk about this.

01:00:31.100 I mean, look, in 2018, you had over 17,000 adults arrested at the border who had prior criminal

01:00:36.760 records, including over 6,000 gang members.

01:00:40.040 You have to highlight those people that were affected by MS-13.

01:00:43.960 You have to highlight the people that are affected that lost loved ones, just like that

01:00:48.020 police officer in California the night after we celebrated Christmas.

01:00:52.700 I mean, and you talk about ICE, for example.

01:00:56.320 Cortez last night was on MSNBC saying that ICE agents are what's wrong with this country and

01:01:01.820 they're actually human rights abusers.

01:01:04.220 Well, those human rights abusers, those ICE agents, in 17 and 18 alone, 100,000 arrests

01:01:10.280 for assault, 30,000 arrests for sex crimes alone.

01:01:14.300 And that's not the only thing they talk about.

01:01:16.520 4,000 arrests for murder.

01:01:17.980 And that's only the people that we caught.

01:01:20.140 So the president goes out there, sells this to the American people that way.

01:01:23.680 That's how you're going to connect.

01:01:24.720 I talked to Eric Bolling about an hour ago, and he said that he thought the president was

01:01:34.120 going to use emergency powers.

01:01:37.260 He didn't believe in this approach, and he was just doing this to get it done, to check

01:01:43.160 the box, and he was going to use the emergency powers.

01:01:47.580 Talk to me a little bit about emergency powers.

01:01:49.820 Is that a good idea, a bad idea, and also, does the government shutdown continue for very

01:01:58.660 much longer?

01:01:59.900 Yeah, well, two things.

01:02:00.840 I think, one, that last night not proposing the emergency powers was actually a smart move.

01:02:07.320 There's still work to be done on selling the American people that there is a crisis and

01:02:11.840 an emergency at the border.

01:02:13.120 So I think the president laid the groundwork, the framework, the foundation for that possibility.

01:02:20.960 I also don't think that you do it yet because we're not far enough into a government shutdown

01:02:25.860 where people are starting to say, get it open at all costs.

01:02:29.280 I think we're still very divided in this country on this.

01:02:32.600 I actually personally like the government shutdown.

01:02:35.140 I think the longer it goes on, the more it shows the American people how bloated the federal

01:02:40.240 government actually is.

01:02:41.640 I mean, remember, we're not talking about a total government shutdown.

01:02:43.960 We're talking about a partial shutdown.

01:02:45.880 We can have this thing go through September, and the mass majority of the actual functions

01:02:50.720 of the government that we do mostly need are going to be running.

01:02:54.680 So I think the president keeps it going.

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01:04:27.500 Steve Dace, who follows us on BlazeTV and Blaze Radio Network, joins us now from BlazeTV to give us his opinion on what he thought of Donald Trump's speech last night and Nancy and Chuck and what the fallout or effect is going to be.

01:04:54.580 Steve, welcome.

01:04:56.140 Morning, Glenn.

01:04:56.840 How are you, man?

01:04:57.500 I'm good.

01:04:57.920 I'm good.

01:04:59.440 So what I thought happened last night was essentially the 2016 election in a nutshell.

01:05:05.400 I thought at the beginning of the speech, I kind of felt like sometimes you have those feelings like, I still can't believe the guy from The Apprentice is president, you know?

01:05:14.760 And I watched it on Fox, and it looked like Fox's camera angle was off, so it looked like he was talking over my shoulder, and he was hurrying.

01:05:24.840 He was kind of running through the content.

01:05:26.840 And I'm like, oh, no, oh, no.

01:05:29.020 Again, he can't handle the trappings of the office.

01:05:32.380 But then there was a pivot point.

01:05:33.720 And the pivot point began when he started using personal testimonials of Americans harmed by illegal immigration.

01:05:39.780 And then he started dropping illegal alien, which gets you shadow banned on social media for using the legal term nowadays.

01:05:46.860 And then – so it started ratcheting up, and the crescendo pivot, the piece de resistance is when he went to the card of wealthy politicians have fences and walls, not because they hate the people outside, but they love the people inside.

01:06:03.120 And the last third of that speech was the argument of moral certainty and out of the details of how many people have been arrested and how much brick and straw and mortar to use.

01:06:14.620 And he got to the premise of his argument.

01:06:17.140 And then the Democrats presented a face.

01:06:20.400 This is why they keep covering him so much.

01:06:22.560 It's why we had so much time during the general election, Glenn, when it looked like Hillary wasn't even running.

01:06:27.320 Yes.

01:06:27.620 Because they know on his own he's not a likable character.

01:06:30.860 But given an unlikable foil, and he is a devastating political weapon, and all they needed was Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer last night looking like they swapped and shared eye shadow before the game began, and it was over.

01:06:45.160 It was basically a replay of 2016, just swap out Hillary Clinton for Schumer and Pelosi.

01:06:50.240 Why, in your wildest dreams, would you have selected Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer to stand in a narrow hallway that looked like it was a hallway to a bathroom, standing at a podium, the two of them, shoulder to shoulder? 0.97

01:07:08.380 It looked ridiculous. 0.99

01:07:10.500 They were awful at it. 0.99

01:07:13.200 Why would you pick those two?

01:07:14.820 Well, the problem the Democrats have, you know, and they have an establishment and a swamp and a base and activists, just like the Republicans do, and they're in a generational transition.

01:07:25.700 You know, we played a clip yesterday on our Blaze show of Whoopi Goldberg going off on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and I channeled Kevin Nealon's subliminal man from SNL back in the day to show our audience that she's not really talking about know your role and know your place. 0.61

01:07:40.440 She's upset that Ocasio-Cortez is earnestly and idealistically trying to front-sell the country on becoming Sweden.

01:07:48.920 And what she's really telling her is, we've got to lie better than that.

01:07:51.820 We have to race bait better than that.

01:07:53.820 We can't sell this thing whole cloth as an upfront product, because while most of the country is not conservative, it ain't communist yet either, so we can't win that argument.

01:08:01.440 And so the Democrats are in this generational vortex, where people like Ocasio-Cortez are not yet ready for leadership, they're not yet ready for prime time, and the country's not yet ready for them to sell us the jalopy.

01:08:14.700 And so they need to bring Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, the dinosaurs, out to keep trying to sell the undercoating instead.

01:08:21.140 So they're in this no-man's land.

01:08:22.660 And that's why I wrote recently that the 2020 election outcome, barring some bombshell from Mueller we have yet to see, barring that, the 2020 election outcome is already spoken for.

01:08:34.480 Either the Democrats will nominate someone who is likable, a Joe Biden, a Beto O'Rourke, somebody like that, or they will nominate one of these Marxists that wants – either they want to beat Trump or they want to convince America to become Sweden.

01:08:46.900 If they want to convince America to become Sweden, he's going to troll the Sam Hill out of them all the way to Election Day. 0.94

01:08:52.640 If they nominate somebody who's far more likable on television as a contrast to him, then I think you'll see a replay of what we just saw in the November House election.

01:09:02.120 I wonder, however, if the American people aren't – the millennials, at least – aren't ready for someone to say, you know what, this just doesn't work.

01:09:14.020 I mean, I talked about this on Fox, I said, the masks are going to come off, and they're going to say, okay, yes, yes, I am a socialist, yes, I do believe in this, because capitalism doesn't work.

01:09:26.040 And we're there now, and they're saying those things.

01:09:30.500 Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, they're not.

01:09:33.160 But those old horses don't run anymore.

01:09:37.040 They just don't run.

01:09:38.680 They don't connect.

01:09:39.640 I looked at Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer last night, and I thought, completely out of touch.

01:09:47.840 They don't even look real.

01:09:49.600 Nancy Pelosi doesn't.

01:09:50.900 She looks like Walt Disney was called up from the freezer to keep her going. 0.79

01:09:57.320 It's bizarre.

01:10:00.080 You're right that the millennials are.

01:10:02.560 But here's the difference.

01:10:03.740 This is where you look at the Senate election we just had, because those are statewide elections.

01:10:08.320 You know, I was actually on MSNBC once, where Ed Rendell tried to make the case Republicans had just won the Senate from the Democrats because of gerrymandering.

01:10:16.500 Okay?

01:10:17.060 No, there are statewide elections.

01:10:19.020 Okay?

01:10:20.000 All right.

01:10:20.640 That's not how that word works.

01:10:22.300 That's not at all how that word works.

01:10:24.360 Yes.

01:10:24.860 So statewide elections, what you just saw is in a very favorable environment, Democrats didn't pick up any seats in the Senate, meaning in terms of a net gain.

01:10:33.740 All right?

01:10:34.420 They didn't pick up a net gain.

01:10:35.960 And what that matters for a presidential election is that's what presidential elections are.

01:10:40.380 They're higher turnout Senate elections, 50 of them all over the country.

01:10:44.520 And so the demographics are in favor of the Democrats just being openly and honest about, hey, we're all Marxists now in 2028, 2032.

01:10:54.120 That's why I've said on our show all along, if we don't see moral and spiritual great awakenings like we saw in the 17th and 19th centuries, you'll see liberty die in America because we are heading towards that demographic apocalypse. 0.79

01:11:05.800 I agree.

01:11:06.540 But we aren't there quite yet.

01:11:09.140 And so we're not having the 2028 election yet.

01:11:11.340 We're having the 2020 election.

01:11:12.640 And there are still enough people that live in rural places or live in places like Iowa where I live now that still that still kind of respond to the old to the old time religion, for lack of a better phrase.

01:11:24.780 And so they're trying to figure out when can we give you guys the full Monty or and how much longer do we just have to show you a little slip of the leg?

01:11:33.860 And that's what's going on in the Democratic Party.

01:11:35.680 Do you think the average Democrat, they may not like Donald Trump, but the average Democrat is listening in the heartland and they see Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and they say, you know, wait a minute.

01:11:50.140 I mean, you guys don't believe any of this stuff.

01:11:52.840 You know, I mean, like, for instance, last night I watched Donald Trump and I was actually really, really pleased and happy with his speech.

01:12:02.640 Not necessarily his delivery.

01:12:05.200 I watched him with frustration like I used to watch George Bush with frustration going, oh, geez, man, please, you know.

01:12:14.260 And so I had that frustration that he wasn't doing a good job delivering.

01:12:18.100 We never seem to have somebody who can deliver a speech since Reagan.

01:12:22.180 Do you think that the Democrats at least feel that when it comes to Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer?

01:12:29.880 Or do you believe that they were effective?

01:12:33.500 What I think is fascinating about the transition of the Democratic Party is in the Republican Party, it's the Republican base versus the leadership.

01:12:40.980 It used to be called conservatives, moderates.

01:12:43.220 It then became Tea Partiers establishment.

01:12:45.460 But really, it's about the base versus the party in leadership and donor class.

01:12:49.700 In the Democratic divide, they have that.

01:12:52.100 But then there are also two different Democratic bases.

01:12:54.560 There is the Democratic base that the Joe Bidens of the world grew up in that is far more liberal than we are and has moved increasingly to the left in the last couple of decades.

01:13:03.920 But they still grew up in an America where they were neighbors to people like us, Glenn.

01:13:07.640 They went to church with people like us.

01:13:09.360 They played Little League with people like us.

01:13:12.420 And so we're not somebody that needs to be snuffed out.

01:13:14.820 And as Eric Erickson likes to say, if you won't join the new utopia, you will be made to care.

01:13:18.980 All right. And so there's that Democratic base and they're what's left of the blue collar private union worker, the electrical worker guy, the teamster worker guy.

01:13:28.440 But they're going away as the economy modernizes and evolves.

01:13:31.840 And they're being replaced by the other Democratic base.

01:13:34.820 And that's what in a place like Iowa, you'll find the first Democratic base that I mentioned in rural places like Indianola outside of where I live in Des Moines.

01:13:42.040 And you'll see candidates like Joe Biden and Beto O'Rourke go to places like that.

01:13:45.840 And then there's the other Democratic base at the University of Iowa and Grinnell College.

01:13:50.380 And that's where you're going to see the Elizabeth Warrens and Camilla Harris's and the Spartacus's go and everybody else that's running, because that's the new wave.

01:13:58.060 Those are the people you're talking about.

01:13:59.760 They are ready for the hammer and the sickle.

01:14:02.160 They have red das Kapital, and they are convinced that that is America's third wave. 0.98

01:14:06.980 So it depends on which Democratic base you're talking about.

01:14:09.820 You're in Iowa, you're watching the election, and you're seeing these people come to town.

01:14:16.460 Tell me about what your initial gut is on the Democrats that have come through.

01:14:23.960 I'm going to give your audience a name they've never heard before.

01:14:27.460 Watch a guy named Jerry Crawford.

01:14:30.040 Jerry Crawford is the longtime Democratic Party kingpin in Iowa.

01:14:33.860 I've known Jerry for years.

01:14:35.340 When I used to do local sports talk radio, he's a big sports enthusiast, a horse racing enthusiast.

01:14:40.780 We've run in the same circles.

01:14:42.300 Him and I have gotten along for years.

01:14:44.420 And he is of the old Joe Biden wing of the party.

01:14:48.620 Remember when Hillary said a few months ago the struggle she had in Iowa is she still is a capitalist? 0.99

01:14:55.260 Jerry Crawford backed Hillary Clinton.

01:14:57.900 And it used to be if you got Jerry Crawford in Iowa, you won the Iowa caucuses no matter what.

01:15:02.920 Well, Jerry Crawford has struggled in the last two Iowa caucuses.

01:15:06.600 Basically, Hillary and Bernie tied, and then Hillary lost to Obama here. 0.90

01:15:10.660 All right.

01:15:10.880 And so what will be fascinating is if you see Jerry Crawford say, I got to give the old Democratic Party one more go, and that's why I'm going to back a Beto O'Rourke or I'm going to back a Joe Biden.

01:15:20.680 Or if you see if you see Jerry Crawford sit back and wait to see which of the new Marxists emerges and says, you know what, I'm going to get on the winning side.

01:15:28.900 He is the caricature, the archetype of what's happening in the Democratic Party.

01:15:33.540 And I would watch a guy like him much more than I would watch the candidates themselves.

01:15:38.520 Steve, if I were going to give you three draft picks and you had to select the Democrat that actually wins, if you had to pick three out of that field, who would you pick?

01:15:46.620 I think Joe Biden will absolutely beat Donald Trump, and that would be my only pick.

01:15:52.840 And the reason why I think he'll absolutely beat him is because he's got high name ID and because he has enough of the new Marxist cachet, having been Obama's VP and right-hand man for eight years,

01:16:03.980 that while the Ocasio-Cortez crowd won't rally to him, he has too much street cred for them to reject him and openly revolt against him like they did Hillary in the last primary cycle.

01:16:17.000 So to me, I think if they nominate Joe Biden, I also think Joe Biden is much like Trump.

01:16:22.980 He is really good in interpersonal settings and casual settings, but is a malaprompt with the stagecraft like Trump is, which means I think he'll stand up to Trump's trolling and return fire and give him what for.

01:16:35.700 He won't wilt under the Humiliation Act that Trump likes to do with his opponents.

01:16:40.960 And so if they nominate him, then I think you'll see the 2020 election look like the 2018 House election.

01:16:47.580 Everywhere Democrats can win, they will win.

01:16:50.000 Well, Steve, thank you very much.

01:16:52.820 Great analysis from Steve Dace.

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01:18:01.900 It's a it was a letter from here it is.

01:18:05.500 It's a it was a sales piece, actually, from J.P.

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01:18:21.420 If you just sign over as collateral, what's in your stock market?

01:18:26.200 OK, so I'm going to sign over what's in my 401k and I I because I believe what's going to happen to the stock market is disastrous.

01:18:34.940 I thought, well, it's not going to mean for people who put in the stock market their 20 percent down.

01:18:42.020 It says fine print at the very last managing collateral.

01:18:46.460 If the value of your securities and pledged asset account falls below the required minimum, you will be asked to post additional collateral.

01:18:54.260 If you don't, your pledged securities may be sold to satisfy such obligation and you will not be entitled to choose which assets would be sold.

01:19:03.940 J.P.

01:19:04.240 Morgan reserves the right to sell your securities at any time as deemed necessary by market conditions and other factors.

01:19:12.440 Holy cow. 0.89

01:19:14.120 You're giving them the right to sell your stocks.

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01:19:54.080 Ocasio-Cortez just came out and she she made some very good points.

01:20:07.100 I mean, if you're on if you're on the Republican side, she made some very good points that everyone should hear.

01:20:13.540 It's true to listen to her response to that to that speech last night and tell me the reason why Republicans talk about her all the time is because they're afraid of her.

01:20:22.560 They they they talk about her all the time because they are dying to make her the representative of the Democrat Party.

01:20:28.540 Oh, she is put her on television over and over and over and over again.

01:20:33.000 Convince America that's who Democrats are.

01:20:35.320 This is the greatest thing that has ever happened to Republicans conservatives had Saturday Night Live.

01:20:43.060 She would be known as Sarah Palin today times a thousand.

01:20:47.660 Yeah, I mean, she is just I mean, you know, I'm just using the words that they used about Sarah Palin a dingbat.

01:20:55.680 That she just is so wrong about the facts, figures, even just a clear line of thinking.

01:21:03.900 Keep giving the attention to Ocasio-Cortez instead of like a Kamala Harris.

01:21:07.640 Kamala Harris is much scarier to Republicans than Ocasio-Cortez.

01:21:11.720 We're going to play this this response from Ocasio-Cortez coming up in just a sec because it's just it's just such good eating.

01:21:19.480 Today, of entertainment and enlightenment, this is the Glenn Beck program.

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01:21:53.580 And he was fascinating, fascinating, had real great perspective.

01:21:59.660 We've also had Steve Dace, who talked about how this is going to play in 2020.

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01:22:07.740 We now have we now have our White House correspondent, more of a more of a guy who is a Trump supporter.

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01:24:39.400 And I cannot believe that I'm saying this about John Miller, John Miller, who started as an intern for me and then was my assistant for a while.

01:24:50.800 I just love him to death.

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01:24:59.460 After leaving me, he made something of himself.

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01:25:07.900 John, how are you?

01:25:09.480 Good.

01:25:09.780 How are you doing, Glenn?

01:25:10.760 Good.

01:25:11.040 So I talked to Eric Bolling today and he said that that that meeting that The New York Times is talking about with all of the the anchors happened yesterday at the White House with Trump, where he said, yeah, I really don't want to do this.

01:25:26.600 And, you know, they're kind of making me do this, but I'll you know, I'll do it.

01:25:31.000 But I don't think it's going to be so effective.

01:25:33.240 Did you hear about this meeting yesterday that it happened?

01:25:36.460 I did hear about it.

01:25:37.200 I was not at the meeting, but I heard about it.

01:25:39.800 And I think that he under I think it was incredibly effective.

01:25:43.700 And I think that, you know, of course, they're going to have polling where they kind of Jimmy the questions to make it seem like it wasn't effective.

01:25:51.500 But I think last night what you saw was a pretty rational, reasonable case for a border wall.

01:25:58.140 Agree.

01:25:58.520 And, you know, it was not a political speech.

01:26:01.500 It was, in fact, I think one of his most presidential moments.

01:26:04.580 In fact, he was probably too stiff.

01:26:06.640 Yes.

01:26:07.580 And, you know, it's like you can you can actually move your hand still, Mr. President.

01:26:12.120 But, you know, the reaction is going to make it even more effective because the, you know, the reaction from Chuck and Nancy, I mean, that was a joke.

01:26:20.460 I mean, that was it was widely mocked across the Internet.

01:26:23.280 You know, even left wing outlets went to town with it.

01:26:26.720 You had these two people looking like villains.

01:26:30.280 You know, if the lighting was terrible, it looked like they're coming to you from their evil lair.

01:26:34.020 But the most jarring part was that they were telling the American people that things that are common sense to Americans aren't so.

01:26:42.620 And that's what made it surreal.

01:26:43.800 This was not a partisan issue.

01:26:45.300 So what we've been doing here is we've actually been talking to Customs and Border Protection this morning.

01:26:50.460 Getting their perspective on it because they're laughing at the idea that a border wall would be ineffective.

01:26:57.520 Well, John, I can't believe and this is I don't know how you sit in the press room with all the members of the press.

01:27:04.280 I really don't.

01:27:06.520 I mean, that's why my time spent with them is minimal, because in my in my judgment, they do not offer any adequate perspective on this stuff.

01:27:14.560 The guys you want to talk to are the people who actually know what's happening.

01:27:18.260 And in this scenario, it's Customs and Border Protection.

01:27:20.600 Well, and it's the people are actually there who actually know.

01:27:22.800 And it's their job to find out how to solve this problem when they say when they say because Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer said this is expensive and ineffective and just not worth it.

01:27:34.920 It just doesn't work.

01:27:36.020 Then where is the press asking Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi?

01:27:40.200 Then why what?

01:27:41.980 Twelve, eighteen months ago did you offer 30 billion dollars for the wall for DACA?

01:27:49.020 Yes, and I mean, and then in 2006, I mean, as Kellyanne said, if you want to call it the Secure Fences Act of 2019, then they can work that out.

01:27:59.280 But the idea that this is partisan, that this is radical and extreme and racist is mind boggling.

01:28:06.600 And, you know, when when they have these hysterical reactions to very normal things, it discredits their hysteria, because when everything is extremist and racist and fascist and hateful, then really nothing is.

01:28:16.600 So, I mean, to get better perspective, just talk to the guys who know actually what's happening.

01:28:21.620 And it's like saying wheels don't work anymore.

01:28:24.780 Now, of course, it's not a comprehensive solution, but I mean, walls, barriers are critical from a security standpoint.

01:28:30.720 And it's common sense.

01:28:32.140 I mean, it's it's been the truth throughout history.

01:28:34.660 I mean, it's been it's the truth in San Diego where apprehensions have gone down by, I think, 96 percent since 2005.

01:28:41.360 We know it's working in Israel where suicide attacks, those declined by 90 percent.

01:28:45.640 And it goes down by 90 percent every time it's tried.

01:28:48.200 Egypt, where they erected a massive steel barricade with Gaza, which, you know, helped stymie Hamas.

01:28:53.720 And then in Spain, they have one blocking illegal immigration from Morocco.

01:28:56.740 So walls are working all over the world.

01:28:58.740 The guys know this.

01:28:59.960 It's just now that Trump is expressing his support for a wall that all of a sudden it's ineffective.

01:29:06.060 It doesn't work.

01:29:07.000 It's unreasonable.

01:29:08.220 That hasn't been the case throughout history and throughout our country's history.

01:29:10.960 So, John, what do you because the the press isn't going to give up on this and neither is the president and neither are the Democrats.

01:29:19.600 So how do you see this playing out?

01:29:21.960 I think that that's the one thing that this speech probably I don't know if the speech moved the ball forward.

01:29:27.960 I think it informed a lot of Americans of the realities of the border.

01:29:31.220 But I don't know if it actually it was a development in the story.

01:29:37.160 I think that, you know, what he's going to eventually I don't see the Democrats budging.

01:29:40.960 And like you said, I don't see the president budging.

01:29:43.040 So it probably will come down to what everyone's talking about, which is the, you know, emergency declaration act, which, you know, the Congress gave the president, which was a lot of things in that I disagree with.

01:29:54.640 But it is a presidential power now since 76.

01:29:58.440 So the president can use it and if he shouldn't use it to shut down businesses, but he can use it to do what is the federal government's fundamental job, which is national security.

01:30:08.980 It's the one thing I think a lot of small government people can even get behind is actually securing our country and our borders.

01:30:14.720 So I agree with you.

01:30:17.180 I want the wall.

01:30:18.400 I want border security.

01:30:21.020 But I'm very concerned about the president, you know, declaring an emergency for national security because and it won't even take Trump doing it to get the Democrats to do this.

01:30:33.400 But it'll make it easier for them to say global warming, number one cause of, you know, in, you know, instability around the world.

01:30:45.420 It's going to cause famine and wars and everything else.

01:30:48.220 So we're going to have to do something and we're opening ourselves up to real trouble.

01:30:54.140 I mean, the hatch has already been opened on that, though, when they when Congress gave the president that power.

01:30:59.340 So either we roll it back or we let the president use the power that he has.

01:31:03.120 I think it's reasonable and the president is going to have to make the case before the courts.

01:31:07.820 But you look at the actual they're going to have a really hard time defending the fact that global warming is actually a crisis because the numbers just aren't there.

01:31:16.180 But I mean, the numbers on the opioid crisis alone, I mean, I think it's hard to deny.

01:31:22.300 And most of those drugs, as we know, are coming in from the border.

01:31:24.420 I think it's hard for anyone to deny that that is a real crisis level.

01:31:28.780 So the president already has the power.

01:31:30.520 Sure, I agree that it's going to open the doors, but they do have to make these cases and they have to win these cases before the courts, before it actually gets affected.

01:31:38.980 John Miller, our White House correspondent.

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01:33:35.480 From the Blaze TV and BlazeTV.com slash Beck, Matt Kibbe joins us on the Glenn Beck program.

01:33:59.440 Hello, Matt.

01:34:01.020 Hey, Glenn.

01:34:01.580 How's it going?

01:34:01.940 Good.

01:34:02.680 I've been anxious to hear your point of view because you are on the libertarian side of the spectrum, and we're trying to get everybody's opinion from the MAGA guys to the libertarians, the conservatives and the millennials, and try to get everybody's opinion.

01:34:20.080 And I think, with the exception of John, we pretty much have a consensus that the wall is important, security on our border is important, but not the use of an emergency act.

01:34:36.040 That's not the way to do it.

01:34:38.880 I'm interested to hear from you, even if you think that border security is important.

01:34:43.820 So, border security is absolutely important, and I think the president's argument with the Democrats, in large part, is semantics.

01:34:55.640 It's words.

01:34:56.380 You know, are we talking about a fence or a wall?

01:34:58.780 Are we talking about spending $2 billion or $5 billion?

01:35:02.260 And it's important to remember that, you know, Mitch McConnell could have gotten this done, and they could have cut other spending, and they could have gone through budget reconciliation.

01:35:11.200 But here we are at this point.

01:35:13.120 I mean, as a libertarian, I would look at other things we could do to make sure that the money we do spend on border security is actually targeting the bad guys.

01:35:26.100 And I'll say some things that will make some of your viewers uncomfortable, but for one thing, we need to do something about the drug war.

01:35:33.800 If we're worried about illegal drugs and deadly drugs coming across the border, we should look at what happened in Portugal, where they decriminalized all the drugs, including the very dangerous drugs.

01:35:44.700 And the net result over the last 20 years has been a significant drop in drug deaths, a drop in young people using drugs.

01:35:53.660 And in the case of the border in our country, it would get rid of the incentive for a lot of bad guys to do a lot of bad things and to bring really dangerous drugs into our country.

01:36:04.320 And why don't we talk about why don't we talk about that more?

01:36:08.600 I mean, that is it.

01:36:09.940 Would you say it dropped significantly?

01:36:12.120 No, no, no, Matt.

01:36:13.240 It dropped dramatically.

01:36:15.680 That was a country that was that was really in the situation that we're in now or or approaching to where death and suicide was off the charts.

01:36:27.740 People were addicted to these drugs.

01:36:30.060 It was one of the worst places in the world, and they tried to keep making the drug laws stronger and stronger and stronger and nothing was working.

01:36:39.980 And so they decided, let's get rid of the drug laws and let's spend that money on rehabilitation, you know, you know, a kind of programs.

01:36:50.600 Let's help people help themselves.

01:36:52.880 And it was dramatic.

01:36:55.400 It saved that country.

01:36:57.140 Yeah, they went from a hellhole to being the best in Europe in terms of eliminating drug deaths, eliminating crime associated with it and disease and all the problems that they had.

01:37:10.700 We should learn from that.

01:37:12.140 And we're sort of schizophrenic on the subject.

01:37:15.460 You know, you have a decriminalization of marijuana and medical marijuana.

01:37:19.440 And the president has said some thoughtful things about that.

01:37:22.720 But I think the heightened criminalization of of opioid use is is a problem because, you know, addicts are going to go get what they can get if if if they feel they need it.

01:37:35.700 And whether or not we think that's a good thing or a bad thing, you know, incentives matter and and people are going to figure out ways to do these things.

01:37:42.340 But I think this is a this is directly linked to border security.

01:37:46.660 And the president talked a lot about all these these these dangerous drugs that are coming into our country.

01:37:51.640 Let's pull the rug out from under the bad guys and and and let let let let people and doctors and and and freedom work itself through here. 0.87

01:38:02.220 I agree with you, and I believe the I believe the opioid crisis and the heroin crisis is is much more than most people can deal with.

01:38:15.500 And I have been somebody who have said you can't legalize all these drugs because we're not a society that's that's willing to deal with it.

01:38:24.120 I think if you look at what Portugal did, I think we are running out of options because the drug war clearly doesn't work.

01:38:34.140 What happened in Portugal did work.

01:38:37.640 And I think to save lives, we need something dramatic.

01:38:41.040 And I am I hate to say this is I haven't really thought it through, but I think I am at a place now in my life where I am for the legalization of drugs because it's just not working.

01:38:54.280 This is not working.

01:38:56.740 Yeah.

01:38:58.260 And so you're letting your inner libertarian come out.

01:39:01.500 Yeah.

01:39:01.980 And that's that's OK.

01:39:03.480 We'll do this together.

01:39:04.480 I know.

01:39:05.140 So so make the libertarian case, because I know a lot of libertarians who are not for border security.

01:39:12.960 Can you make that libertarian case?

01:39:15.940 So, you know, some some libertarians use the phrase open borders.

01:39:19.780 And I think I don't like the phrase because I think it means different things to different people.

01:39:24.720 And I think we should be concise in our language.

01:39:26.760 Um, I think that the consensus libertarian view is that people that want to come to our country and work and follow the rules and control.

01:39:38.220 By the should be welcome.

01:39:40.660 And and our current immigration system doesn't do that.

01:39:45.360 Immigrants, legal and illegal, are political footballs. 1.00

01:39:49.200 Both political parties have agendas other than that principle that I just stated.

01:39:54.500 And and another thing we could do to deal with how we how we actually get to real border security is to make sure that people that want to come here and work and contribute have a clear process.

01:40:08.700 And maybe it's maybe it's guest worker reform.

01:40:11.580 Maybe it has nothing to do with citizenship, if that's a concern for people.

01:40:15.000 But as long as we make it impossible for those good people to cross the border, we make it easier for bad people to cross the border.

01:40:24.000 Yes, I will tell you, I have we have two people that I would like to hire and bring into the fold.

01:40:32.980 And I think they would contribute a lot to our society.

01:40:37.400 And I can't I can't even get them green cards.

01:40:40.140 I mean, they can't they've got a job.

01:40:42.560 They can't come in. 0.96

01:40:44.080 And it's ridiculous.

01:40:45.740 I mean, if if you if you can work and you want to work and you want to live by our laws, we should make that so easy to do.

01:40:56.220 And we should just be very, very clear on you got to come through the front door.

01:41:01.720 Have to.

01:41:02.780 Yeah.

01:41:03.460 Yeah.

01:41:03.740 But, you know, the front the front door has you have to know where the front door is and you have to know what the rules of the game are.

01:41:09.780 And you have to know that if you're going to if you're going to go through that process, I know this is going to take three months, six months, whatever it is.

01:41:17.320 But that that has to be honest and open.

01:41:20.660 And this is where it's kind of fascinating to watch Bernie Sanders attack the Koch brothers for.

01:41:26.280 Yeah, for for for for their position on immigration.

01:41:29.740 But, you know, I think that the Kochs have a pretty clear what I would call a libertarian view.

01:41:35.320 If you want to come here and work and contribute, this is part of what's made America a great place.

01:41:41.140 Yes. And and I think, you know, politicians, you know, I think a lot of politicians are interested in in owning and controlling people once they get here, you know, for their votes.

01:41:51.640 Yeah. And and that's part of the reason it's a political football.

01:41:55.060 But, you know, some of us need to just lay it out there.

01:41:58.860 You know, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi didn't talk anything about making it safe and predictable and legal for good people to come here and contribute to our country.

01:42:09.980 Matt, I've got about 45 seconds.

01:42:13.080 How does this play with the the swing vote, the independent vote?

01:42:18.680 Where do they fall eventually, do you think?

01:42:22.060 So, you know, the interesting thing is that, you know, Trump has dug his heels in on this and, you know, that the wall is every bit as much a rhetorical symbol as anything else.

01:42:33.140 But, you know, a lot of the people that are hurt by this government shutdown because Trump controls the executive branch are probably Democrats.

01:42:40.580 So I wonder how long the Democrats are going to hold out.

01:42:44.280 Yeah. All right. Thank you so much, Matt. Appreciate it.

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01:44:01.880 We spent the show today looking at the border crisis and where it goes from here.

01:44:05.800 We have another perspective from Stephen Kent coming up next.

01:44:13.560 This is a Glenn Beck program.

01:44:18.200 We have had some really fascinating points of view that we have brought to the table.

01:44:23.600 We decided yesterday that we were going to try to just grab as many of the voices as we could possibly squeeze in from the blaze and and from different different perspectives as much as we could.

01:44:37.860 And I have really I don't think I've ever heard such a wide variety and yet come away with kind of the same feeling from almost everybody.

01:44:51.920 There's a lot of agreement in general.

01:44:54.180 Yeah.

01:44:54.540 Different parts of it.

01:44:55.640 I think, you know, hit up people's buttons in certain ways.

01:44:57.820 But it's been interesting to kind of.

01:44:59.840 It's been interesting to see like Eric Bolling, who is friends with the president.

01:45:03.980 He came on and he said, you know, I don't I hope he doesn't do the national emergency thing, but he didn't want to.

01:45:12.760 He also said he wanted to open up the government with the exception of just the homeland security and just fight out the border just there.

01:45:19.500 There's a bunch of bills that Democrats have proposed to open all the other parts of the government and keep just the homeland security thing as an ongoing debate.

01:45:27.900 And isn't it interesting to hear Matt Kibbe say he should keep the government closed because it's not going to hurt his voting base, because most of the people who are going to be affected are going to be Democrats and they'll be screaming at the Democrats.

01:45:42.720 Open the government.

01:45:44.020 Yeah.

01:45:44.240 It's an interesting day.

01:45:45.460 Really fascinating.

01:45:46.740 We have we have one more guest that we want to put on.

01:45:49.440 He is a spokesperson for Young Voices and also host of Beltway Banthas podcast.

01:45:56.560 I find him interesting, funny and really a credible guy.

01:46:01.180 Stephen Kent, millennial voice of conservative movement.

01:46:05.300 Welcome to the program.

01:46:06.080 How are you?

01:46:07.400 Good morning.

01:46:07.960 I'm doing well.

01:46:08.480 Thanks for having me back.

01:46:09.240 So, Stephen, give me your thought on on the speech last night, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer's speech.

01:46:19.440 How this is going to play out.

01:46:21.380 What do you think is what do you think last night meant?

01:46:25.620 Well, I agree very much with your White House correspondent, John Miller, in that Trump just could not read from the prompter.

01:46:33.380 And it was really it was really worse than ever.

01:46:35.780 No charisma.

01:46:36.440 And for him, I think that can be incredibly damaging.

01:46:39.100 I was expecting a little bit more gusto and conviction and maybe jazz hands for his final pitch on his precious wall project.

01:46:46.640 I mean, this has been what his entire political career has been about.

01:46:50.400 And he didn't sell it.

01:46:52.040 And by the way, the Democrats looked terrifying as well.

01:46:55.500 It was like Emperor Palpatine and the Joker making a national address.

01:47:00.520 It's kind of scary.

01:47:01.940 And the substance was intellectually dishonest and cynical as well.

01:47:05.340 And I think there was plenty of that to go around between the president and his adversaries in Congress.

01:47:09.940 Like nobody even attempted to move the meter for their side.

01:47:13.580 And I think that's pretty sad when you look back on some White House speeches from days past that really aim to try to move people, not just terrify or belittle them.

01:47:22.660 So, wait, hang on just a second.

01:47:24.600 Where do you think the president was trying to terrify or belittle?

01:47:29.040 I thought he I thought he spoke with the facts for the most part.

01:47:35.740 I thought he even said, look, this is a humanitarian thing.

01:47:40.000 We don't have the space for these people.

01:47:43.320 We just don't have the resources.

01:47:44.840 We need more resources.

01:47:46.660 And, you know, it's a wall.

01:47:48.840 If they want to do a fence, we'll do a fence.

01:47:51.040 But we have to do this.

01:47:53.300 Yeah.

01:47:53.620 So he paid sort of homage to the humanitarian crisis on the border.

01:47:59.160 Very briefly, it was kind of a couple of sentences.

01:48:01.160 And then he really moved on to the law and order portion of this.

01:48:05.580 I mean, some really gruesome stuff.

01:48:07.180 And the crimes that have been committed by some illegal immigrants across the country are no doubt gruesome. 1.00

01:48:12.860 They're sad.

01:48:13.560 But to spend, I think, that time from the Oval Office sort of doing this just reciting of three, four or five, like really just awful crimes that you'd have to send your child out of the room to hear from the president.

01:48:26.880 And that is not normal.

01:48:28.520 And we've not seen that kind of thing before.

01:48:30.320 And I also don't think it is appropriate to use that platform to talk about these instances as if they are a normal and sort of like epidemic part of American life.

01:48:40.220 You wouldn't accept that from President Obama on guns.

01:48:43.760 You wouldn't accept that from a George Bush on the sort of epidemic of terror.

01:48:47.760 You know, that's that's just not sort of our daily lives.

01:48:50.800 And I think that was a misrepresentation.

01:48:53.000 I do think we did hear that from Obama with the guns thing here and there, maybe not in the in the Oval Office.

01:48:58.920 But do you think, Stephen, when he comes to the sort of delivery from President Trump, there's a report out today that basically he didn't even want to do this.

01:49:07.300 Like, this is not something he was interested in doing.

01:49:09.180 He doesn't want to do the photo op on the border.

01:49:11.860 This is really not his passion.

01:49:13.760 The issue might be his passion, but like this delivery system is just makes him uncomfortable, it seems.

01:49:20.100 I'm really perplexed by that because I thought that was exactly what his thing was.

01:49:24.060 I saw that report and I heard John Miller talking about it again earlier.

01:49:27.640 And I'm just sort of shocked because this sort of seems like what he is made to do to sort of get on TV and pound his fist and give a give a speech about something that he's passionate about.

01:49:38.400 And it really you could see that he did not want to be there.

01:49:41.040 So I buy that 100 percent.

01:49:42.580 I don't think so.

01:49:44.960 Hang on.

01:49:45.560 I don't think so.

01:49:46.960 I just don't think he is capable of delivering a script.

01:49:52.540 I just don't think that's in him.

01:49:54.980 He's much better when he's just speaking off the cuff.

01:49:57.280 Right.

01:49:57.560 He's just he's not an actor.

01:50:00.240 Yeah.

01:50:00.780 And were you in Home Alone, too?

01:50:02.300 Because I know he was.

01:50:03.220 Were you, Glenn?

01:50:03.840 Were you in Home Alone, too?

01:50:06.240 Sorry.

01:50:06.780 Sorry.

01:50:07.040 So good, Stephen.

01:50:07.560 No, no, it's it's kind of shocking to see that he wouldn't actually put his all into a platform like that.

01:50:13.600 He's the president of the United States.

01:50:14.820 He's been working for this for years.

01:50:16.200 And it's his first opportunity to use that platform to his end.

01:50:19.860 And I think he really kind of fell on his face there.

01:50:21.840 So, Stephen, on the border, what do you do?

01:50:24.140 Hang on.

01:50:24.900 Before you get into that, you know, the diminishing of crime.

01:50:29.000 This is from the United States Sentencing Commission.

01:50:31.320 So this is a U.S. source.

01:50:33.220 Non-U.S. citizens accounted for 40.7 percent of all offenders in fiscal year 2017.

01:50:41.540 So 40 percent of all federal offenses are happening from non-U.S. citizens, according to the government.

01:50:52.420 That's pretty significant.

01:50:54.920 Yeah.

01:50:55.420 Crime happens.

01:50:56.320 And I think we have to do a better job of controlling who comes into this country, which I think is going to go to your next question about, you know, what do we do? 1.00

01:51:03.620 There's there's no doubt there.

01:51:04.780 But, again, that is a misrepresentation of the amount of people who come into this country, both legally and illegally.

01:51:09.400 The majority of people who are in this country technically illegally are people who overstayed their their legal right to be here, their visas, et cetera.

01:51:17.360 You know, we don't we don't have sort of a mass epidemic of murderers climbing over a wall and running into Los Angeles.

01:51:23.160 That's that's not really what's going on here.

01:51:25.740 So what do you do at the border?

01:51:26.700 So what do you do at the border?

01:51:38.520 We're very concerned that the populist movement in Europe is actively, if not already, overtaken U.S. politics and our traditional, more open political parties are rapidly closing.

01:51:49.580 And voters voters, voters demanded something very radical with electing Donald Trump.

01:51:55.100 A vote for him was a vote for the wall.

01:51:57.760 And my fear is that ignoring this could have far worse consequences for the expanse of government than the project itself, which is just more of a cash hole.

01:52:08.140 And I think a bad symbol for the United States.

01:52:10.720 I mean, what if Trump or the Trumps of the world, like they get frustrated enough to expand the infrastructure for the war on terror and homeland security to even further grow surveillance systems and Big Brother to monitor people for immigration enforcement?

01:52:24.700 They already do this.

01:52:25.820 I mean, if you live on the border, you're practically under drone surveillance all of the time.

01:52:30.280 But imagine if it expanded more darkly, like so I just I wonder if the wall would at least tame the vitriol that has been boiling up in our politics for the past decade, even if it compromises some of our values and imperils our national spending problems a little bit more.

01:52:46.460 But good on good on Trump for not invoking emergency powers and kicking this back to Congress, because this is their failure and they need to deal with it.

01:52:55.080 Stephen, thank you very much for the perspective.

01:52:56.980 I appreciate it.

01:52:58.320 Spokesperson for Young Voices and also the Belway Banthas podcast, which is a lot of fun.

01:53:04.720 Yeah, you only got one nerdy Star Wars reference in there, which is a little disappointing.

01:53:08.320 Yeah, it really is.

01:53:09.320 I mean, that's we'll have to talk to him about that for next.

01:53:11.120 I tend to agree with him, though, on the the border wall.

01:53:16.460 This this Donald Trump.

01:53:20.520 Was elected because of the border wall, I really think that was the thing that connected with people.

01:53:28.680 Now, they wanted other things from him as well, but that was the thing that connected.

01:53:33.060 And if he can't get this done, who can?

01:53:39.080 Who's next?

01:53:40.760 That's a function of the system.

01:53:42.320 He was elected in a country with a system of government.

01:53:45.360 And but that system is becoming more and more discredited every day.

01:53:50.260 I mean, every president gets elected with some project that people believe in.

01:53:55.080 Right.

01:53:55.220 Like, I'm sure millions of people voted for Barack Obama because they wanted gun control.

01:54:00.060 Right.

01:54:00.380 Like and he didn't get his gun control and he shouldn't have got his gun control because to get his gun control, he would have had to go through Congress and actually pass things.

01:54:06.460 And also probably amend the Constitution to do those things.

01:54:09.720 But, you know, that doesn't always happen.

01:54:12.200 No, I don't still have to do things the right way.

01:54:14.140 I just think because the Democrats are blocking something that they've already voted for and they were for.

01:54:20.400 Yeah.

01:54:20.500 And the Republicans said they were for, but they were never for.

01:54:24.720 I just think that you're in a different situation.

01:54:27.620 It's at least a thoughtful exercise to go through.

01:54:32.120 Yeah.

01:54:32.460 What he just what he just said.

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01:56:43.740 In looking at the speech last night, in watching it myself, the president was wooden, but he was solid, I believe, on the facts.

01:56:52.800 He was solid on the message.

01:56:55.240 I think where the where the speech really kind of had a turning point was when he started talking about immorality.

01:57:02.080 Listen, some have suggested a barrier is immoral.

01:57:07.400 Then why do wealthy politicians build walls, fences and gates around their homes?

01:57:13.400 They don't build walls because they hate the people on the outside, but because they love the people on the inside.

01:57:21.440 He he then went on thing that is immoral is the politicians to do nothing and continue to allow more innocent people to be so horribly victimized.

01:57:34.240 He then went on to talk about the victimization and he talked about drugs.

01:57:38.040 And it was just within a couple of minutes of Trump completing his speech that the media attacked Politico Washington Post.

01:57:45.160 Wine.

01:57:45.480 The president was not presidential enough.

01:57:47.640 I don't I don't I've rarely seen him more presidential USA Today.

01:57:52.280 CNN both eagerly devoted articles to fact checking.

01:57:54.900 The president, the hysterical, as always, HuffPo lost all credibility and objectivity, accused him of lying.

01:58:04.240 Even in the headline, Trump spreads lies on televised speech for border wall funding while they were printing those things.

01:58:13.140 Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer stood in a long hallway that just looked like a scary 1984 hallway that led nothing either to a torture chamber or to a bathroom.

01:58:23.960 I'm not sure standing there appearing like the two characters in American Gothic by Grant Wood.

01:58:30.500 And they had really nothing credible to say.

01:58:35.780 But the the point of the speech last night that shouldn't be missed is this.

01:58:42.440 To every member of Congress, pass a bill that ends this crisis to every citizen called Congress and tell them to finally, after all of these decades, secure our border.

01:58:58.360 This is a choice between right and wrong justice and injustice.

01:59:06.420 This is about whether we fulfill our sacred duty to the American citizens we serve.

01:59:12.440 I don't know if enough people heard that call, but the president responded to the American people when he first said a couple of weeks ago, yeah, well, I'm not going to I'm not going to hold up the government on the wall.

01:59:29.160 And his base went crazy.

01:59:32.920 He responded to you.

01:59:34.500 Now, the question is, will you respond to him and call Congress and become an activist for this wall in the places where it really counts?

01:59:47.480 In the halls of Congress and on the phone with your senators.

01:59:53.220 So really, you're going to make me do that again.

01:59:55.900 I have to call.

01:59:56.740 I know I don't have the I don't have the cell phone minutes. 0.86

02:00:00.700 They make all these freaking calls to Congress.

02:00:02.820 I swear, like, is that is that part of our jobs? 0.89

02:00:05.840 We always have to just call them and tell them what to do.

02:00:07.900 Do something near Constitution.

02:00:10.380 Yeah.

02:00:10.740 How about occasionally doing something that makes some sense?

02:00:14.220 Stop spending all of our money on nothing.

02:00:16.860 I mean, I mean, the border wall.

02:00:18.580 Look, you can you can you can make arguments about it.

02:00:21.420 But the idea that you're going to say that it's a wall is a immoral and be ineffective. 0.95

02:00:27.300 Both of those arguments are bonkers. 0.86

02:00:29.960 Right. 0.52

02:00:30.180 Like none of them make any sense.

02:00:31.460 We all know that a wall stops people.

02:00:33.560 I'm not going to stop everybody, but it's going to stop some people. 0.98

02:00:36.600 And it's immoral is ridiculous. 0.93

02:00:38.560 As somebody who has had threats to his family's safety, let me just tell you this. 0.96

02:00:44.180 The first thing that any security company will tell you is get a wall and a gate and some dogs.

02:00:51.640 I can't believe you're bringing that up again.

02:00:52.700 I've already apologized for the threats.

02:00:54.660 Relax.

02:00:55.120 You are.

02:00:55.600 There's a restraining order.

02:00:57.340 Back up, Mr. Backup.

02:00:58.860 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

The Glenn Beck Program - January 09, 2019

＂Good Job Mr. President!＂｜ Guests： Eric Bolling, Andrew Klavan & Blaze Media Personalities ｜ 1⧸9⧸19

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The Glenn Beck Program - January 09, 2019

＂Good Job Mr. President!＂ ｜ Guests： Eric Bolling, Andrew Klavan & Blaze Media Personalities ｜ 1⧸9⧸19

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＂Good Job Mr. President!＂｜ Guests： Eric Bolling, Andrew Klavan & Blaze Media Personalities ｜ 1⧸9⧸19