On this episode of The Glenn Beck Program, host Glenn Beck is joined by Eric Bolling, Steve Dacey, Andrew Wilkow, Ben Ferguson, John Miller, Stephen Kent, and Pat McAfee to discuss the President's speech and the Democratic response from all sides of the conservative movement.
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00:00:53.160Today we have every voice that you could possibly want to hear from about the president's speech. We have Eric Bolling. We have Steve Dace. We have Andrew Wilkow, Ben Ferguson, John Miller, Stephen Kent, Matt Kibbe. Pat is coming up in a second. I mean, we are going to be covering the president's speech and the Democratic response from all sides of the conservative movement.
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00:01:29.480Eric Bolling. We begin with him in one minute.
00:01:35.840This is the Glenn Beck program. I'm anxious to hear his his look at things because he has inside information.
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00:03:49.480But I want to get with Eric Bolling, who has deep relationships at the White House and possibly can give us some insight on this and get his opinion on on the speech and its effectiveness.
00:04:18.360And what's typically on the screens is one CNN, one Fox, one Fox Business, one ESPN.
00:04:24.980They lower the volume on everything and they play the speech full volume in the whole Trump lobby.
00:04:29.800We see a lot of supporters here and, you know, it was a few minutes.
00:04:34.360I think he was making his case for what could be, you know, his declaration of a national emergency to get to get some of the wall funding.
00:04:41.080So he's I think he's being told he's being advised by Kellyanne and Shine and Sarah Sanders.
00:04:49.120And it is kind of a team advisory panel about what to do with this.
00:04:54.660I understand he didn't want to do the speech.
00:04:56.960And I understand he didn't really necessarily want to go to to the Texas border.
00:05:00.560He feels those are a little bit more, I don't know, photo op ish than than than any substantive action.
00:05:11.480He's dug in. He's not going to give up without a fight.
00:05:14.660So so tell me, Eric, the the story that he had lunch with all of the anchors and he said, you know, it's a photo op.
00:05:22.240And I really didn't want to do it. It's not going to make a difference. Is that story true then?
00:05:27.340Well, I mean, I would think it is. I read it as you did.
00:05:30.880And, you know, we have a room full of journalists and off the record comments tend to become leaked.
00:05:38.300And so I guess it would be true. But, you know, I tend to agree with them.
00:05:44.620I don't think last night necessarily moved the needle.
00:05:47.400I think Trump's base, people who have supported him from the beginning, want to see a wall built and want to see him threaten to shut it or continue to shut down the government until they get funding for the wall.
00:05:57.580And the people who didn't vote for him or don't like him, liberals or anti-Trumpers or whomever, didn't come to his side by watching that, nor did they become any more emboldened by watching Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer really look ridiculous.
00:06:20.840So let me just throw one thing at you, Glenn, 2019 request for foreign aid budget, twenty seven point seven billion dollars.
00:06:28.860That includes three billion for Israel, you know, a billion for Jordan.
00:06:33.480You know, people like me and maybe libertarians like you would say, well, if we're willing to spend almost 30 billion dollars handing out money to foreign countries, is five billion dollars, whether you think it's effective or not, is five billion dollars really a big deal to protect our southern border?
00:06:50.460Or even a third of the country believes it needs to happen?
00:07:37.320Look, this wall funding, this wall, this wall funding, this whole debate is all political.
00:07:41.800I mean, we've you and I both talked about the how many times Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Obama, Clinton, Feinstein have all been on record on tape saying that they're they're for stronger borders and stronger immigration policy.
00:07:54.540In fact, you know, Schumer is willing to do twenty five billion dollars if he got what he wanted in DACA.
00:07:59.020So this is all B.S. politicking and what Trump is not one of the is clearly one of the most hated politicians in D.C.
00:08:06.400So they're going to they're going to hold out on their side until until someone blinks.
00:08:09.840My guess is that I'm going to just go out on a limb and say, I don't think I mean, I don't know that the best route is to declare a national emergency.
00:08:17.600But find the funding, find three billion dollars somewhere.
00:08:21.420I mean, we have a four trillion dollar budget, three billion.
00:08:23.900They they blink and lose three billion dollars on some things.
00:08:27.380Just find it and find something where, you know, we save three billion dollars on the renegotiated death.
00:08:34.900And guess what? We found three billion in Mexico paid for it to play one of those gimmicky games that that politicians on both sides of the aisle have played for, you know, 247 years.
00:08:46.080So and then everyone and then we move on and, you know, TSA can come back to work and we can feel safe flying again and all the other stuff.
00:08:54.820Have you noticed the difference in the media?
00:08:56.620I'm struck by when Republicans, quote unquote, shut down the government several years ago for something like Planned Parenthood.
00:09:03.000The argument was, why don't Republicans just give in on a few hundred million or a billion dollars because we have to get this government open now that it's one little thing that the Democrats could easily just give in on and get all the government funding.
00:09:16.080They they the the the the pitch from the press is the exact opposite, that it's the Republicans fault because they won't give up on their one thing.
00:09:24.420It's a it's fascinating how they reverse these things.
00:09:26.800Yeah. But but don't forget, when you're on that side, you go, can you believe they they they won't just give up on this five billion?
00:09:32.180So, so, look, I think and this is this, you know, and I'm glad I'm always I'm 100 percent honest person.
00:09:38.620I think Trump is making a mistake keeping the rest of the government closed.
00:09:43.100I think what he should do is open the rest.
00:09:45.360Let let, you know, Homeland Security fight this fight and just let the whole mess.
00:09:51.060Now, honestly, I know what he's doing.
00:09:53.000He's using the other agencies, kind of holding him hostage a little bit because a bigger package is harder to fight with.
00:09:59.100But I think open the open the rest. So we don't have 800,000 people who aren't getting paychecks.
00:10:04.340Maybe we have 30,000 that aren't getting paychecks for now and fight the battle, you know, at the border, literally where it should be fought.
00:10:11.760And, you know, it'll it'll he'll relinquish some leverage.
00:10:15.380But it would be more true, I guess, to me, for me, for being a base supporter.
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00:10:28.460Eric Bolling talking to him. One last question.
00:10:31.260Do you think the national emergency talk, where did that come from?
00:10:34.940Because everyone was expecting him to declare a national emergency or to threaten the national emergency.
00:10:41.480And I was just going to do that. Is that off the table or is that ever on the table?
00:10:46.080No, no, I know. I think it's still on the table.
00:10:47.960In fact, you know, a good friend of mine, Jonathan Swan, who's a reporter for Axios, but also has excellent sources inside the White House.
00:10:55.400I'll just let you know, I talk to the White House a lot.
00:10:57.620Right. I've called them, emailed them the last few days.
00:11:00.540I haven't been. No one's returned my call.
00:11:02.400I mean, I get emails back saying, hey, sorry, we're really swamped.
00:11:05.220We can't talk right now. So they're keeping it very tight.
00:11:07.760But Swan, who's got very good access inside, good sources, says that the national emergency is not off the table.
00:11:15.100My gut is, based on all the reporting that we've seen in the last 12 hours, that's where Trump wants to go with it.
00:11:22.180His advisers are probably saying, hold off. Let's try, you know, nine o'clock news conference, nine o'clock present address from the OVO.
00:11:29.380Let's try going to the border to gain some support.
00:11:31.940My guess is Trump is still willing to pull that nuclear option if need be.
00:11:35.780And again, he marches to the beat of his own drum, right?
00:11:38.840They don't listen to anyone else, but he's probably trying exhausting all other avenues first.
00:11:43.000So it might happen. I, you know, and I, Glenn, I think it's a mistake to do that.
00:11:47.200I think he'd be better off opening the rest of the government state and fight the border battle at the border with the DHS.
00:11:53.620Couldn't agree with you more. Eric, thank you so much. Appreciate it.
00:11:56.120Eric Bowling. You can hear his opinion in all of all of the background.
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00:14:30.680He, I think, laid out a case that there's a lot of people who didn't know about the border.
00:14:36.020Some of it, you know, he's, you could tell that it wasn't, it wasn't controversial enough for the media because they, like, their fact checks are just silly.
00:15:02.140You know, I think Eric, you know, he didn't have inside information on this, but he thinks the case is, it's true that Trump said, basically, I don't even want to do this.
00:15:11.220It's not, you know, it's not, it's New York Times reporting saying that, hey, this isn't, I don't want to do this.
00:15:16.440And I, you know, it's not going to be effective.
00:15:19.180And that was kind of Eric's take as well.
00:15:20.780I think it's interesting that his take, that Eric who said that, that Trump, his move is to declare national emergency, which I absolutely buy into.
00:15:40.700You know, I don't think, I haven't heard anything really honestly from the audience or anything of people who said, you know what, I really want the border wall and I want it done with a national emergency.
00:15:49.840I mean, I think all the supporters we've talked to have said, I really don't want to do it that way, but I really want the border wall.
00:15:56.880And that's a totally sensible place to be.
00:15:58.680But the problem is you're not going to get the border wall.
00:16:02.240This is, this is why Trump was elected.
00:16:05.600And if, if this just plays out the typical way, he may have a hard time making a case in 2020 because he should have done this in the first year.
00:16:18.620That was his, that was the crown jewel.
00:16:21.140That's what got him elected was the border wall.
00:16:23.980And for him not to make that the number one priority, instead to fall on his sword.
00:16:29.900Now, when the Democrats, the Democrats have control of the house and you know, you're not going to get it.
00:16:48.580It's interesting too, because I don't know what the reasoning for him, uh, not taking the deal a year ago on the border wall was, uh, again, but it was DACA and trade for not just $5 billion of funding.
00:17:02.500The entire border wall funding was going to fund 30, it was $30 billion or something.
00:17:06.180They were, they were going to trade for DACA.
00:17:07.960And now they're trying to get DACA for just the 5.7.
00:17:12.300And it kills me that, uh, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi say it's ineffective and expensive at $5 billion when they were the ones that offered 30, $30 billion.
00:17:43.880I mean, Nancy, look, again, you could talk about policy, but you have to separate the fact that Nancy Pelosi looks insane every time she's on television.
00:17:51.620I don't know what surgery she's been doing or how much Botox she's poured into the face.
00:17:56.720Whatever it is, her eyes are super duper wide.
00:17:59.040She's got the crazy, she's got the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez eyes going on.
00:20:50.920This is, you know, they say, oh, no, the opioid epidemic.
00:20:53.960Well, they so overuse crisis and epidemic and everything else that you're like, what?
00:21:00.900You know, the war on drugs doesn't mean anything anymore.
00:21:05.500But when you see how this is reaching in to the heart of America and just destroying us, this this again, bigger than the peak of gun crimes, car crashes.
00:21:23.960Dwarfs those things, literally dwarfs them.
00:21:27.740It's it's a it's a real problem, America.
00:21:31.420And you look at the number of the number of deaths and crime and mutilations and beheadings that are happening here in the country from MS-13.
00:21:45.600That is four times as many people killed by MS-13 in a year.
00:21:51.820Then all of the school shootings, same period of time.
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00:25:03.520In the last two years, ICE officers made 266,000 arrests of aliens with criminal records, including those charged or convicted of 100,000 assaults, 30,000 sex crimes, 4,000 violent killings,
00:25:33.520come into our country illegally, and thousands more will lose their life if we don't act.
00:26:03.880Did they fall on deaf ears all across the country?
00:26:08.860Do we not care about the real victims here?
00:26:13.840The victims that are on both sides of the border.
00:26:17.320When the president spoke about the murders, the illegal alien that came across the border, the life of an American hero, stolen by someone who didn't have the right to even be in our country.
00:26:38.680In California, an Air Force veteran was raped, murdered, and then beaten to death with a hammer.
00:27:49.200But the good news is Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer were worse.
00:27:52.740Pat Gray is joining us now from Pat Gray Unleashed, which is the podcast you can hear live every day prior to this show on the Blaze Radio Network.
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00:28:48.700Talking about how bad this is for the people who are dying on the way here and not doing well once they get here because they're not encouraged to do well.
00:29:35.520But beyond that, what has changed is now people are sending just their kids across.
00:29:41.900That is wildly dangerous for families and kids to do wildly dangerous.
00:29:47.180They're being exploited by the drug lords.
00:29:49.680We have shown this over and over again.
00:29:52.180And now the last straw is that the left and those from the open border society are funding these caravans and they are using these desperate people.
00:30:05.740Some of them, not all of them, these desperate people, they're using them and conning them and saying, oh, no, you're going to get in and it's going to be great.
00:30:17.320It's despicable what they're doing and to bring up their past support for the wall, which in some cases was a couple of years ago, three years ago, before just before him.
00:30:40.400So when when Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer come out and say it's ineffective and expensive and immoral and immoral, you you sold 30 billion dollars.
00:30:53.360You were saying I'll take I'll give you 30 billion dollars for the dream act that needs to be hammered home, man.
00:31:01.080And the Republicans are so ineffective at that.
00:31:03.240We've talked a million times about how bad Republicans are.
00:31:06.240They don't want defending the border wall either.
00:31:08.320No, it's not their position on this case.
00:31:12.000But for Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer to stand there like the American Gothic portrait, the only thing lacking was a pitchfork in Schumer's hand.
00:31:22.300And to tell us that it's immoral and ineffective and a manufactured crisis when here they are, the most amoral people to ever hold office.
00:31:32.180The people who want slaughter of children to continue, not just in this country.
00:31:35.760They're trying to fund it around the world and they support every degradation known to mankind.
00:31:40.860Then they say that a wall or a fence is immoral.
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00:38:06.440Most people don't remember or don't know that we made steel pennies in 43, 44, and I think part of 45 because we needed copper for the wiring, for telephones and ships and planes and everything else.
00:38:25.820Well, they made these bronze pennies, and they made about 30 of them as they were testing.
00:38:31.620Somehow or another, these 30 pennies dislodged from the machines as they were cutting the steel pennies, and they were put into circulation.
00:38:42.120The rumor was that, or the legend is, that Henry Ford said, I'm going to give any man a car who finds a bronze penny, okay?
00:38:54.000And so it was a big deal that these things were out there.
00:38:57.220But again, the Treasury said that's not true.
00:38:59.100Until a kid was standing in a lunch line, and he paid for his lunch, and he got change back, and in there was a bronze penny from 1943, and he noticed it.
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01:04:27.500Steve Dace, who follows us on BlazeTV and Blaze Radio Network, joins us now from BlazeTV to give us his opinion on what he thought of Donald Trump's speech last night and Nancy and Chuck and what the fallout or effect is going to be.
01:04:59.440So what I thought happened last night was essentially the 2016 election in a nutshell.
01:05:05.400I thought at the beginning of the speech, I kind of felt like sometimes you have those feelings like, I still can't believe the guy from The Apprentice is president, you know?
01:05:14.760And I watched it on Fox, and it looked like Fox's camera angle was off, so it looked like he was talking over my shoulder, and he was hurrying.
01:05:24.840He was kind of running through the content.
01:05:33.720And the pivot point began when he started using personal testimonials of Americans harmed by illegal immigration.
01:05:39.780And then he started dropping illegal alien, which gets you shadow banned on social media for using the legal term nowadays.
01:05:46.860And then – so it started ratcheting up, and the crescendo pivot, the piece de resistance is when he went to the card of wealthy politicians have fences and walls, not because they hate the people outside, but they love the people inside.
01:06:03.120And the last third of that speech was the argument of moral certainty and out of the details of how many people have been arrested and how much brick and straw and mortar to use.
01:06:14.620And he got to the premise of his argument.
01:06:17.140And then the Democrats presented a face.
01:06:20.400This is why they keep covering him so much.
01:06:22.560It's why we had so much time during the general election, Glenn, when it looked like Hillary wasn't even running.
01:06:27.620Because they know on his own he's not a likable character.
01:06:30.860But given an unlikable foil, and he is a devastating political weapon, and all they needed was Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer last night looking like they swapped and shared eye shadow before the game began, and it was over.
01:06:45.160It was basically a replay of 2016, just swap out Hillary Clinton for Schumer and Pelosi.
01:06:50.240Why, in your wildest dreams, would you have selected Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer to stand in a narrow hallway that looked like it was a hallway to a bathroom, standing at a podium, the two of them, shoulder to shoulder?
01:07:14.820Well, the problem the Democrats have, you know, and they have an establishment and a swamp and a base and activists, just like the Republicans do, and they're in a generational transition.
01:07:25.700You know, we played a clip yesterday on our Blaze show of Whoopi Goldberg going off on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and I channeled Kevin Nealon's subliminal man from SNL back in the day to show our audience that she's not really talking about know your role and know your place.
01:07:40.440She's upset that Ocasio-Cortez is earnestly and idealistically trying to front-sell the country on becoming Sweden.
01:07:48.920And what she's really telling her is, we've got to lie better than that.
01:07:51.820We have to race bait better than that.
01:07:53.820We can't sell this thing whole cloth as an upfront product, because while most of the country is not conservative, it ain't communist yet either, so we can't win that argument.
01:08:01.440And so the Democrats are in this generational vortex, where people like Ocasio-Cortez are not yet ready for leadership, they're not yet ready for prime time, and the country's not yet ready for them to sell us the jalopy.
01:08:14.700And so they need to bring Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, the dinosaurs, out to keep trying to sell the undercoating instead.
01:08:22.660And that's why I wrote recently that the 2020 election outcome, barring some bombshell from Mueller we have yet to see, barring that, the 2020 election outcome is already spoken for.
01:08:34.480Either the Democrats will nominate someone who is likable, a Joe Biden, a Beto O'Rourke, somebody like that, or they will nominate one of these Marxists that wants – either they want to beat Trump or they want to convince America to become Sweden.
01:08:46.900If they want to convince America to become Sweden, he's going to troll the Sam Hill out of them all the way to Election Day.
01:08:52.640If they nominate somebody who's far more likable on television as a contrast to him, then I think you'll see a replay of what we just saw in the November House election.
01:09:02.120I wonder, however, if the American people aren't – the millennials, at least – aren't ready for someone to say, you know what, this just doesn't work.
01:09:14.020I mean, I talked about this on Fox, I said, the masks are going to come off, and they're going to say, okay, yes, yes, I am a socialist, yes, I do believe in this, because capitalism doesn't work.
01:09:26.040And we're there now, and they're saying those things.
01:10:03.740This is where you look at the Senate election we just had, because those are statewide elections.
01:10:08.320You know, I was actually on MSNBC once, where Ed Rendell tried to make the case Republicans had just won the Senate from the Democrats because of gerrymandering.
01:10:24.860So statewide elections, what you just saw is in a very favorable environment, Democrats didn't pick up any seats in the Senate, meaning in terms of a net gain.
01:10:35.960And what that matters for a presidential election is that's what presidential elections are.
01:10:40.380They're higher turnout Senate elections, 50 of them all over the country.
01:10:44.520And so the demographics are in favor of the Democrats just being openly and honest about, hey, we're all Marxists now in 2028, 2032.
01:10:54.120That's why I've said on our show all along, if we don't see moral and spiritual great awakenings like we saw in the 17th and 19th centuries, you'll see liberty die in America because we are heading towards that demographic apocalypse.
01:11:12.640And there are still enough people that live in rural places or live in places like Iowa where I live now that still that still kind of respond to the old to the old time religion, for lack of a better phrase.
01:11:24.780And so they're trying to figure out when can we give you guys the full Monty or and how much longer do we just have to show you a little slip of the leg?
01:11:33.860And that's what's going on in the Democratic Party.
01:11:35.680Do you think the average Democrat, they may not like Donald Trump, but the average Democrat is listening in the heartland and they see Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and they say, you know, wait a minute.
01:11:50.140I mean, you guys don't believe any of this stuff.
01:11:52.840You know, I mean, like, for instance, last night I watched Donald Trump and I was actually really, really pleased and happy with his speech.
01:12:05.200I watched him with frustration like I used to watch George Bush with frustration going, oh, geez, man, please, you know.
01:12:14.260And so I had that frustration that he wasn't doing a good job delivering.
01:12:18.100We never seem to have somebody who can deliver a speech since Reagan.
01:12:22.180Do you think that the Democrats at least feel that when it comes to Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer?
01:12:29.880Or do you believe that they were effective?
01:12:33.500What I think is fascinating about the transition of the Democratic Party is in the Republican Party, it's the Republican base versus the leadership.
01:12:40.980It used to be called conservatives, moderates.
01:12:43.220It then became Tea Partiers establishment.
01:12:45.460But really, it's about the base versus the party in leadership and donor class.
01:12:49.700In the Democratic divide, they have that.
01:12:52.100But then there are also two different Democratic bases.
01:12:54.560There is the Democratic base that the Joe Bidens of the world grew up in that is far more liberal than we are and has moved increasingly to the left in the last couple of decades.
01:13:03.920But they still grew up in an America where they were neighbors to people like us, Glenn.
01:13:07.640They went to church with people like us.
01:13:09.360They played Little League with people like us.
01:13:12.420And so we're not somebody that needs to be snuffed out.
01:13:14.820And as Eric Erickson likes to say, if you won't join the new utopia, you will be made to care.
01:13:18.980All right. And so there's that Democratic base and they're what's left of the blue collar private union worker, the electrical worker guy, the teamster worker guy.
01:13:28.440But they're going away as the economy modernizes and evolves.
01:13:31.840And they're being replaced by the other Democratic base.
01:13:34.820And that's what in a place like Iowa, you'll find the first Democratic base that I mentioned in rural places like Indianola outside of where I live in Des Moines.
01:13:42.040And you'll see candidates like Joe Biden and Beto O'Rourke go to places like that.
01:13:45.840And then there's the other Democratic base at the University of Iowa and Grinnell College.
01:13:50.380And that's where you're going to see the Elizabeth Warrens and Camilla Harris's and the Spartacus's go and everybody else that's running, because that's the new wave.
01:13:58.060Those are the people you're talking about.
01:13:59.760They are ready for the hammer and the sickle.
01:14:02.160They have red das Kapital, and they are convinced that that is America's third wave.
01:14:06.980So it depends on which Democratic base you're talking about.
01:14:09.820You're in Iowa, you're watching the election, and you're seeing these people come to town.
01:14:16.460Tell me about what your initial gut is on the Democrats that have come through.
01:14:23.960I'm going to give your audience a name they've never heard before.
01:15:10.880And so what will be fascinating is if you see Jerry Crawford say, I got to give the old Democratic Party one more go, and that's why I'm going to back a Beto O'Rourke or I'm going to back a Joe Biden.
01:15:20.680Or if you see if you see Jerry Crawford sit back and wait to see which of the new Marxists emerges and says, you know what, I'm going to get on the winning side.
01:15:28.900He is the caricature, the archetype of what's happening in the Democratic Party.
01:15:33.540And I would watch a guy like him much more than I would watch the candidates themselves.
01:15:38.520Steve, if I were going to give you three draft picks and you had to select the Democrat that actually wins, if you had to pick three out of that field, who would you pick?
01:15:46.620I think Joe Biden will absolutely beat Donald Trump, and that would be my only pick.
01:15:52.840And the reason why I think he'll absolutely beat him is because he's got high name ID and because he has enough of the new Marxist cachet, having been Obama's VP and right-hand man for eight years,
01:16:03.980that while the Ocasio-Cortez crowd won't rally to him, he has too much street cred for them to reject him and openly revolt against him like they did Hillary in the last primary cycle.
01:16:17.000So to me, I think if they nominate Joe Biden, I also think Joe Biden is much like Trump.
01:16:22.980He is really good in interpersonal settings and casual settings, but is a malaprompt with the stagecraft like Trump is, which means I think he'll stand up to Trump's trolling and return fire and give him what for.
01:16:35.700He won't wilt under the Humiliation Act that Trump likes to do with his opponents.
01:16:40.960And so if they nominate him, then I think you'll see the 2020 election look like the 2018 House election.
01:16:47.580Everywhere Democrats can win, they will win.
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01:19:54.080Ocasio-Cortez just came out and she she made some very good points.
01:20:07.100I mean, if you're on if you're on the Republican side, she made some very good points that everyone should hear.
01:20:13.540It's true to listen to her response to that to that speech last night and tell me the reason why Republicans talk about her all the time is because they're afraid of her.
01:20:22.560They they they talk about her all the time because they are dying to make her the representative of the Democrat Party.
01:20:28.540Oh, she is put her on television over and over and over and over again.
01:20:33.000Convince America that's who Democrats are.
01:20:35.320This is the greatest thing that has ever happened to Republicans conservatives had Saturday Night Live.
01:20:43.060She would be known as Sarah Palin today times a thousand.
01:20:47.660Yeah, I mean, she is just I mean, you know, I'm just using the words that they used about Sarah Palin a dingbat.
01:20:55.680That she just is so wrong about the facts, figures, even just a clear line of thinking.
01:21:03.900Keep giving the attention to Ocasio-Cortez instead of like a Kamala Harris.
01:21:07.640Kamala Harris is much scarier to Republicans than Ocasio-Cortez.
01:21:11.720We're going to play this this response from Ocasio-Cortez coming up in just a sec because it's just it's just such good eating.
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01:21:30.740I'm surprised that that thing that happens every hour happened to happen this hour.
01:21:35.260I'm I'm trying to jam so much in today.
01:21:38.480We have already talked to Eric Bolling, who is really a chief political correspondent in Washington, D.C.,
01:21:46.660about what he saw last night, what he is his vision on inside the White House was.
01:21:53.580And he was fascinating, fascinating, had real great perspective.
01:21:59.660We've also had Steve Dace, who talked about how this is going to play in 2020.
01:22:04.720And I thought that was fascinating as well.
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01:24:39.400And I cannot believe that I'm saying this about John Miller, John Miller, who started as an intern for me and then was my assistant for a while.
01:25:11.040So I talked to Eric Bolling today and he said that that that meeting that The New York Times is talking about with all of the the anchors happened yesterday at the White House with Trump, where he said, yeah, I really don't want to do this.
01:25:26.600And, you know, they're kind of making me do this, but I'll you know, I'll do it.
01:25:31.000But I don't think it's going to be so effective.
01:25:33.240Did you hear about this meeting yesterday that it happened?
01:25:37.200I was not at the meeting, but I heard about it.
01:25:39.800And I think that he under I think it was incredibly effective.
01:25:43.700And I think that, you know, of course, they're going to have polling where they kind of Jimmy the questions to make it seem like it wasn't effective.
01:25:51.500But I think last night what you saw was a pretty rational, reasonable case for a border wall.
01:26:07.580And, you know, it's like you can you can actually move your hand still, Mr. President.
01:26:12.120But, you know, the reaction is going to make it even more effective because the, you know, the reaction from Chuck and Nancy, I mean, that was a joke.
01:26:20.460I mean, that was it was widely mocked across the Internet.
01:26:23.280You know, even left wing outlets went to town with it.
01:26:26.720You had these two people looking like villains.
01:26:30.280You know, if the lighting was terrible, it looked like they're coming to you from their evil lair.
01:26:34.020But the most jarring part was that they were telling the American people that things that are common sense to Americans aren't so.
01:27:06.520I mean, that's why my time spent with them is minimal, because in my in my judgment, they do not offer any adequate perspective on this stuff.
01:27:14.560The guys you want to talk to are the people who actually know what's happening.
01:27:18.260And in this scenario, it's Customs and Border Protection.
01:27:20.600Well, and it's the people are actually there who actually know.
01:27:22.800And it's their job to find out how to solve this problem when they say when they say because Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer said this is expensive and ineffective and just not worth it.
01:27:41.980Twelve, eighteen months ago did you offer 30 billion dollars for the wall for DACA?
01:27:49.020Yes, and I mean, and then in 2006, I mean, as Kellyanne said, if you want to call it the Secure Fences Act of 2019, then they can work that out.
01:27:59.280But the idea that this is partisan, that this is radical and extreme and racist is mind boggling.
01:28:06.600And, you know, when when they have these hysterical reactions to very normal things, it discredits their hysteria, because when everything is extremist and racist and fascist and hateful, then really nothing is.
01:28:16.600So, I mean, to get better perspective, just talk to the guys who know actually what's happening.
01:28:21.620And it's like saying wheels don't work anymore.
01:28:24.780Now, of course, it's not a comprehensive solution, but I mean, walls, barriers are critical from a security standpoint.
01:29:21.960I think that that's the one thing that this speech probably I don't know if the speech moved the ball forward.
01:29:27.960I think it informed a lot of Americans of the realities of the border.
01:29:31.220But I don't know if it actually it was a development in the story.
01:29:37.160I think that, you know, what he's going to eventually I don't see the Democrats budging.
01:29:40.960And like you said, I don't see the president budging.
01:29:43.040So it probably will come down to what everyone's talking about, which is the, you know, emergency declaration act, which, you know, the Congress gave the president, which was a lot of things in that I disagree with.
01:29:54.640But it is a presidential power now since 76.
01:29:58.440So the president can use it and if he shouldn't use it to shut down businesses, but he can use it to do what is the federal government's fundamental job, which is national security.
01:30:08.980It's the one thing I think a lot of small government people can even get behind is actually securing our country and our borders.
01:30:21.020But I'm very concerned about the president, you know, declaring an emergency for national security because and it won't even take Trump doing it to get the Democrats to do this.
01:30:33.400But it'll make it easier for them to say global warming, number one cause of, you know, in, you know, instability around the world.
01:30:45.420It's going to cause famine and wars and everything else.
01:30:48.220So we're going to have to do something and we're opening ourselves up to real trouble.
01:30:54.140I mean, the hatch has already been opened on that, though, when they when Congress gave the president that power.
01:30:59.340So either we roll it back or we let the president use the power that he has.
01:31:03.120I think it's reasonable and the president is going to have to make the case before the courts.
01:31:07.820But you look at the actual they're going to have a really hard time defending the fact that global warming is actually a crisis because the numbers just aren't there.
01:31:16.180But I mean, the numbers on the opioid crisis alone, I mean, I think it's hard to deny.
01:31:22.300And most of those drugs, as we know, are coming in from the border.
01:31:24.420I think it's hard for anyone to deny that that is a real crisis level.
01:31:28.780So the president already has the power.
01:31:30.520Sure, I agree that it's going to open the doors, but they do have to make these cases and they have to win these cases before the courts, before it actually gets affected.
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01:32:33.360Today, in fact, this is just breaking Paris, yellow vest activists are urging French citizens to empty their bank accounts and spark a massive run on French banks and their longstanding fight with the government.
01:34:02.680I've been anxious to hear your point of view because you are on the libertarian side of the spectrum, and we're trying to get everybody's opinion from the MAGA guys to the libertarians, the conservatives and the millennials, and try to get everybody's opinion.
01:34:20.080And I think, with the exception of John, we pretty much have a consensus that the wall is important, security on our border is important, but not the use of an emergency act.
01:34:56.380You know, are we talking about a fence or a wall?
01:34:58.780Are we talking about spending $2 billion or $5 billion?
01:35:02.260And it's important to remember that, you know, Mitch McConnell could have gotten this done, and they could have cut other spending, and they could have gone through budget reconciliation.
01:35:13.120I mean, as a libertarian, I would look at other things we could do to make sure that the money we do spend on border security is actually targeting the bad guys.
01:35:26.100And I'll say some things that will make some of your viewers uncomfortable, but for one thing, we need to do something about the drug war.
01:35:33.800If we're worried about illegal drugs and deadly drugs coming across the border, we should look at what happened in Portugal, where they decriminalized all the drugs, including the very dangerous drugs.
01:35:44.700And the net result over the last 20 years has been a significant drop in drug deaths, a drop in young people using drugs.
01:35:53.660And in the case of the border in our country, it would get rid of the incentive for a lot of bad guys to do a lot of bad things and to bring really dangerous drugs into our country.
01:36:04.320And why don't we talk about why don't we talk about that more?
01:36:15.680That was a country that was that was really in the situation that we're in now or or approaching to where death and suicide was off the charts.
01:36:30.060It was one of the worst places in the world, and they tried to keep making the drug laws stronger and stronger and stronger and nothing was working.
01:36:39.980And so they decided, let's get rid of the drug laws and let's spend that money on rehabilitation, you know, you know, a kind of programs.
01:36:57.140Yeah, they went from a hellhole to being the best in Europe in terms of eliminating drug deaths, eliminating crime associated with it and disease and all the problems that they had.
01:37:12.140And we're sort of schizophrenic on the subject.
01:37:15.460You know, you have a decriminalization of marijuana and medical marijuana.
01:37:19.440And the president has said some thoughtful things about that.
01:37:22.720But I think the heightened criminalization of of opioid use is is a problem because, you know, addicts are going to go get what they can get if if if they feel they need it.
01:37:35.700And whether or not we think that's a good thing or a bad thing, you know, incentives matter and and people are going to figure out ways to do these things.
01:37:42.340But I think this is a this is directly linked to border security.
01:37:46.660And the president talked a lot about all these these these dangerous drugs that are coming into our country.
01:37:51.640Let's pull the rug out from under the bad guys and and and let let let let people and doctors and and and freedom work itself through here.
01:38:02.220I agree with you, and I believe the I believe the opioid crisis and the heroin crisis is is much more than most people can deal with.
01:38:15.500And I have been somebody who have said you can't legalize all these drugs because we're not a society that's that's willing to deal with it.
01:38:24.120I think if you look at what Portugal did, I think we are running out of options because the drug war clearly doesn't work.
01:38:37.640And I think to save lives, we need something dramatic.
01:38:41.040And I am I hate to say this is I haven't really thought it through, but I think I am at a place now in my life where I am for the legalization of drugs because it's just not working.
01:39:40.660And and our current immigration system doesn't do that.
01:39:45.360Immigrants, legal and illegal, are political footballs.
01:39:49.200Both political parties have agendas other than that principle that I just stated.
01:39:54.500And and another thing we could do to deal with how we how we actually get to real border security is to make sure that people that want to come here and work and contribute have a clear process.
01:41:03.740But, you know, the front the front door has you have to know where the front door is and you have to know what the rules of the game are.
01:41:09.780And you have to know that if you're going to if you're going to go through that process, I know this is going to take three months, six months, whatever it is.
01:41:17.320But that that has to be honest and open.
01:41:20.660And this is where it's kind of fascinating to watch Bernie Sanders attack the Koch brothers for.
01:41:26.280Yeah, for for for for their position on immigration.
01:41:29.740But, you know, I think that the Kochs have a pretty clear what I would call a libertarian view.
01:41:35.320If you want to come here and work and contribute, this is part of what's made America a great place.
01:41:41.140Yes. And and I think, you know, politicians, you know, I think a lot of politicians are interested in in owning and controlling people once they get here, you know, for their votes.
01:41:51.640Yeah. And and that's part of the reason it's a political football.
01:41:55.060But, you know, some of us need to just lay it out there.
01:41:58.860You know, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi didn't talk anything about making it safe and predictable and legal for good people to come here and contribute to our country.
01:42:13.080How does this play with the the swing vote, the independent vote?
01:42:18.680Where do they fall eventually, do you think?
01:42:22.060So, you know, the interesting thing is that, you know, Trump has dug his heels in on this and, you know, that the wall is every bit as much a rhetorical symbol as anything else.
01:42:33.140But, you know, a lot of the people that are hurt by this government shutdown because Trump controls the executive branch are probably Democrats.
01:42:40.580So I wonder how long the Democrats are going to hold out.
01:42:44.280Yeah. All right. Thank you so much, Matt. Appreciate it.
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01:43:15.640I don't want to be on any kind of drug from the doctor.
01:43:18.920And at the same time, as much as I hate drugs like that because of my alcoholism, I also don't like pain and I don't believe in anything that's organic.
01:44:18.200We have had some really fascinating points of view that we have brought to the table.
01:44:23.600We decided yesterday that we were going to try to just grab as many of the voices as we could possibly squeeze in from the blaze and and from different different perspectives as much as we could.
01:44:37.860And I have really I don't think I've ever heard such a wide variety and yet come away with kind of the same feeling from almost everybody.
01:44:51.920There's a lot of agreement in general.
01:44:59.840It's been interesting to see like Eric Bolling, who is friends with the president.
01:45:03.980He came on and he said, you know, I don't I hope he doesn't do the national emergency thing, but he didn't want to.
01:45:12.760He also said he wanted to open up the government with the exception of just the homeland security and just fight out the border just there.
01:45:19.500There's a bunch of bills that Democrats have proposed to open all the other parts of the government and keep just the homeland security thing as an ongoing debate.
01:45:27.900And isn't it interesting to hear Matt Kibbe say he should keep the government closed because it's not going to hurt his voting base, because most of the people who are going to be affected are going to be Democrats and they'll be screaming at the Democrats.
01:47:01.940And the substance was intellectually dishonest and cynical as well.
01:47:05.340And I think there was plenty of that to go around between the president and his adversaries in Congress.
01:47:09.940Like nobody even attempted to move the meter for their side.
01:47:13.580And I think that's pretty sad when you look back on some White House speeches from days past that really aim to try to move people, not just terrify or belittle them.
01:48:13.560But to spend, I think, that time from the Oval Office sort of doing this just reciting of three, four or five, like really just awful crimes that you'd have to send your child out of the room to hear from the president.
01:48:28.520And we've not seen that kind of thing before.
01:48:30.320And I also don't think it is appropriate to use that platform to talk about these instances as if they are a normal and sort of like epidemic part of American life.
01:48:40.220You wouldn't accept that from President Obama on guns.
01:48:43.760You wouldn't accept that from a George Bush on the sort of epidemic of terror.
01:48:47.760You know, that's that's just not sort of our daily lives.
01:48:50.800And I think that was a misrepresentation.
01:48:53.000I do think we did hear that from Obama with the guns thing here and there, maybe not in the in the Oval Office.
01:48:58.920But do you think, Stephen, when he comes to the sort of delivery from President Trump, there's a report out today that basically he didn't even want to do this.
01:49:07.300Like, this is not something he was interested in doing.
01:49:09.180He doesn't want to do the photo op on the border.
01:49:13.760The issue might be his passion, but like this delivery system is just makes him uncomfortable, it seems.
01:49:20.100I'm really perplexed by that because I thought that was exactly what his thing was.
01:49:24.060I saw that report and I heard John Miller talking about it again earlier.
01:49:27.640And I'm just sort of shocked because this sort of seems like what he is made to do to sort of get on TV and pound his fist and give a give a speech about something that he's passionate about.
01:49:38.400And it really you could see that he did not want to be there.
01:50:56.320And I think we have to do a better job of controlling who comes into this country, which I think is going to go to your next question about, you know, what do we do?
01:51:04.780But, again, that is a misrepresentation of the amount of people who come into this country, both legally and illegally.
01:51:09.400The majority of people who are in this country technically illegally are people who overstayed their their legal right to be here, their visas, et cetera.
01:51:17.360You know, we don't we don't have sort of a mass epidemic of murderers climbing over a wall and running into Los Angeles.
01:51:23.160That's that's not really what's going on here.
01:51:38.520We're very concerned that the populist movement in Europe is actively, if not already, overtaken U.S. politics and our traditional, more open political parties are rapidly closing.
01:51:49.580And voters voters, voters demanded something very radical with electing Donald Trump.
01:51:55.100A vote for him was a vote for the wall.
01:51:57.760And my fear is that ignoring this could have far worse consequences for the expanse of government than the project itself, which is just more of a cash hole.
01:52:08.140And I think a bad symbol for the United States.
01:52:10.720I mean, what if Trump or the Trumps of the world, like they get frustrated enough to expand the infrastructure for the war on terror and homeland security to even further grow surveillance systems and Big Brother to monitor people for immigration enforcement?
01:52:25.820I mean, if you live on the border, you're practically under drone surveillance all of the time.
01:52:30.280But imagine if it expanded more darkly, like so I just I wonder if the wall would at least tame the vitriol that has been boiling up in our politics for the past decade, even if it compromises some of our values and imperils our national spending problems a little bit more.
01:52:46.460But good on good on Trump for not invoking emergency powers and kicking this back to Congress, because this is their failure and they need to deal with it.
01:52:55.080Stephen, thank you very much for the perspective.
01:54:00.380Like and he didn't get his gun control and he shouldn't have got his gun control because to get his gun control, he would have had to go through Congress and actually pass things.
01:54:06.460And also probably amend the Constitution to do those things.
01:54:09.720But, you know, that doesn't always happen.
01:54:12.200No, I don't still have to do things the right way.
01:54:14.140I just think because the Democrats are blocking something that they've already voted for and they were for.
01:55:28.940And I started asking them questions about their business.
01:55:31.960And I found out that one of the most important questions you can ask is, tell me about your marketing plan for my house, not for your face, for my house.
01:56:55.240I think where the where the speech really kind of had a turning point was when he started talking about immorality.
01:57:02.080Listen, some have suggested a barrier is immoral.
01:57:07.400Then why do wealthy politicians build walls, fences and gates around their homes?
01:57:13.400They don't build walls because they hate the people on the outside, but because they love the people on the inside.
01:57:21.440He he then went on thing that is immoral is the politicians to do nothing and continue to allow more innocent people to be so horribly victimized.
01:57:34.240He then went on to talk about the victimization and he talked about drugs.
01:57:38.040And it was just within a couple of minutes of Trump completing his speech that the media attacked Politico Washington Post.
01:57:45.480The president was not presidential enough.
01:57:47.640I don't I don't I've rarely seen him more presidential USA Today.
01:57:52.280CNN both eagerly devoted articles to fact checking.
01:57:54.900The president, the hysterical, as always, HuffPo lost all credibility and objectivity, accused him of lying.
01:58:04.240Even in the headline, Trump spreads lies on televised speech for border wall funding while they were printing those things.
01:58:13.140Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer stood in a long hallway that just looked like a scary 1984 hallway that led nothing either to a torture chamber or to a bathroom.
01:58:23.960I'm not sure standing there appearing like the two characters in American Gothic by Grant Wood.
01:58:30.500And they had really nothing credible to say.
01:58:35.780But the the point of the speech last night that shouldn't be missed is this.
01:58:42.440To every member of Congress, pass a bill that ends this crisis to every citizen called Congress and tell them to finally, after all of these decades, secure our border.
01:58:58.360This is a choice between right and wrong justice and injustice.
01:59:06.420This is about whether we fulfill our sacred duty to the American citizens we serve.
01:59:12.440I don't know if enough people heard that call, but the president responded to the American people when he first said a couple of weeks ago, yeah, well, I'm not going to I'm not going to hold up the government on the wall.