The Glenn Beck Program - Gut Feelings Revisited？｜ Guests： Steve Katz & Ami Horowitz

00:00:00.000 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program, a just heartbreaking tragedy yesterday in Paris, France.

00:00:15.300 Luckily, it looks like much of the relics have been taken out. We're not sure what the stained glass window they say. This is the most important Christian treasure in all of Europe is the stained glass window, the rosette window there in the Cathedral of Notre Dame.

00:00:41.200 There's speculation that was wild yesterday on the Internet. It looks like it was caused by construction. We'll tell you the whole story in one minute.

00:00:57.780 This is the Glenn Beck program.

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00:02:12.420 Sitting in a basilica at 570 A.D.

00:02:28.780 In the heart of Jerusalem lay a crown of thorns.

00:02:35.180 They had been there for a while.

00:02:37.180 Then the wars started and the emperors started, coming from Constantinople, now Istanbul.

00:02:51.540 The crown of thorns and a relic of the true cross then went to Istanbul, where it stayed until 1238.

00:03:01.760 Things started to get a little dicey for the emperor Baldwin in Constantinople, and he had already mortgaged everything he had, including the crown of thorns.

00:03:18.040 That's when King Louis in 1238 decided to see if he could buy the relics and bring them to Paris.

00:03:27.140 He was looking to unite people, and he thought the crown of thorns would be the thing that could help him do it.

00:03:36.920 He paid three times, three times what it cost to build the cathedral that it was kept in.

00:03:46.380 It was not originally kept in Notre Dame.

00:03:50.520 It was moved to Notre Dame after the relic barely escaped the French Revolution.

00:03:59.820 In the French Revolution, they were collectivists, socialists, anti-capitalists, anti-religionists, anti-God, and they desecrated Notre Dame.

00:04:13.300 They had sex on the altar and sacrifices.

00:04:16.820 They said it was a temple of reason, not a temple of God.

00:04:23.160 In the chapel where the true cross and the crown of thorns were kept, much of it was destroyed.

00:04:34.280 Somehow or another, those two relics escaped, and they lay safe until after the Revolution and 1806.

00:04:44.020 1806 is when Napoleon said, we should move these to temporarily to Notre Dame for safekeeping.

00:04:55.120 Well, they were moved there, and they were never moved again until yesterday.

00:05:01.860 These are the crown jewels of France, and it was an extraordinarily brave priest that went into the flames to grab these relics.

00:05:16.760 Whether they are truly the true cross and the crown of thorns, we'll never really know.

00:05:26.700 They've been dated to the right era, to the right time.

00:05:31.580 But whether they are the true cross and the true crown of thorns, we don't know.

00:05:37.220 And there are only about 70 thorns, they say.

00:05:41.220 70 thorns left.

00:05:43.240 Because at the time, King Louis would give one of the thorns to people who had done something that he favored.

00:05:52.280 Now, it's preserved in a crystal case, a round crystal case that was made in the late 1800s.

00:06:01.980 And it is only out a couple of times.

00:06:06.380 One on Good Friday, which is coming up on this Friday.

00:06:11.520 And Easter.

00:06:12.780 Usually, it is laying away from prying eyes.

00:06:17.760 I was struck yesterday by, I will never see Notre Dame.

00:06:27.440 And it is what I had said recently.

00:06:32.220 I had told my family and I had told you for different reasons that these churches and these cathedrals and these monuments will be lost in the coming years.

00:06:45.540 And all I could think of was, we had planned a trip to Paris just this last summer.

00:06:54.920 And I canceled it because we were in the middle of doing business.

00:07:02.040 And I had told my family, we have got to get to Paris before it burns down to the ground.

00:07:08.700 And you won't see things like the cathedral anymore.

00:07:13.940 I said it.

00:07:16.600 I said it multiple times.

00:07:18.080 Multiple times.

00:07:18.720 Honestly, the second I saw Notre Dame on fire on television, the first thing I thought about was Glenn saying this.

00:07:25.880 Because I thought it was just, you know, it's one of those things that are just so random that Glenn just blurts out.

00:07:30.040 You're like, what are you even talking about?

00:07:31.480 Yeah.

00:07:31.660 And, but yeah, you said it, I mean, multiple times.

00:07:34.360 I remember.

00:07:35.600 But I said it because of ISIS.

00:07:37.320 ISIS.

00:07:37.800 And I think this is actually.

00:07:39.320 Yeah.

00:07:39.440 I think this is actually a blessing and we can get into that in a minute.

00:07:42.140 Yeah.

00:07:42.280 Listen though, because I think there's a case.

00:07:44.340 Well, listen to this.

00:07:45.100 This is Glenn in 2015.

00:07:47.960 We dug this one up for you here.

00:07:49.760 Listen, here's Glenn talking inexplicably about Notre Dame being destroyed.

00:07:53.740 Because of what is happening, I believe London, France, Germany, Greece, I believe these things could be destroyed in what is coming.

00:08:04.660 And especially because, remember who you're fighting against, you're fighting against Islamic extremists.

00:08:11.260 The places that they will target will be places like the Cathedral of Notre Dame.

00:08:15.720 You could go back to Germany, to France in 15 years from now, and it might be free.

00:08:22.340 It might not be.

00:08:23.560 It might be free.

00:08:25.400 But the Cathedral of Notre Dame may be gone.

00:08:28.500 Now that's, that's 2015.

00:08:31.440 Here he is in another show.

00:08:32.640 This is on TV in 2015 as well.

00:08:35.500 So when I was talking to Tim Ferriss, he said, so what do you see coming?

00:08:38.620 And I said, Paris is in trouble.

00:08:42.080 Paris is in trouble.

00:08:42.940 And I said, they're going to get the Cathedral of Notre Dame.

00:08:46.740 And I said, it's just a gut feeling.

00:08:48.740 So now this comes out with a weekend that they are doing Paris as their first stop.

00:08:54.780 And they're saying it's the Eiffel Tower.

00:08:56.760 It's not.

00:08:57.800 That was one minor distinction.

00:08:59.220 It wasn't ISIS.

00:08:59.940 It was construction workers.

00:09:01.140 Okay, but wait a minute.

00:09:01.940 Hang on just a second.

00:09:02.680 That was 2015.

00:09:04.140 In 2016, in 2016, ISIS targeted Notre Dame.

00:09:09.860 And 2017, they tried to blow it up with a car bomb.

00:09:13.660 I was going to say, like, this is, the fact that Notre Dame caught on fire yesterday was

00:09:17.560 not what proved you right.

00:09:18.660 It was these two, I mean, multiple attacks and attempts to get rid of Notre Dame by ISIS.

00:09:24.680 Like, this has already happened.

00:09:26.420 Yes.

00:09:26.640 And that's why I say, I think this is a blessing.

00:09:30.800 And we'll get into the conspiracy theories and everything else and debunk all of that.

00:09:34.960 And I want to say that again, debunk all of that.

00:09:37.960 We should be clear, though.

00:09:38.560 They're not saying for sure what happened.

00:09:41.040 No, but it looks to be.

00:09:42.180 It looks strongly to be.

00:09:44.500 Related to their renovations.

00:09:46.380 Correct.

00:09:46.660 But we do not know that yet.

00:09:47.980 Correct.

00:09:48.240 That is not confirmed.

00:09:49.180 Correct.

00:09:49.640 And we'll talk about all of that.

00:09:51.080 But let me just say this.

00:09:52.900 I think if it was construction, this is actually a blessing.

00:09:58.880 Imagine if we knew today that ISIS had gone in and started a fire in Notre Dame and had

00:10:07.080 burned that thing just as badly as it is, had burned Notre Dame down.

00:10:12.860 Think about what people are saying in France now.

00:10:16.380 This, it's their White House, if you will.

00:10:18.800 I can't think of a more precious building in America than this.

00:10:23.840 And you mentioned the Crown of Thorns.

00:10:24.940 There was a piece of the Crown of Thorns in the spire to protect the building.

00:10:30.380 Wow.

00:10:30.820 And that's obviously lost.

00:10:32.480 If you watch the video, the spire collapses.

00:10:34.280 There's no way that they're going to be able to get that.

00:10:36.020 I mean, I can't imagine, unless it was protected in some strength, you know, in a way to defend

00:10:40.960 against just this.

00:10:41.760 Maybe they thought of that.

00:10:43.320 But yeah, I mean, like, that's how serious it is.

00:10:45.940 I mean, this is foundational.

00:10:47.580 This is, this is, this is like blowing up or burning down Buckingham Palace.

00:10:52.240 This is the symbol of France and longer than the Eiffel Tower.

00:10:58.500 Bringing down the Eiffel Tower is bad.

00:11:01.540 Notre Dame is what is left of the spiritual side of France.

00:11:07.060 And because it is so ingrained in French history, it has become almost spiritual, even for those

00:11:16.520 who don't believe in God.

00:11:17.820 It is a sacred place, even for those who don't understand the sacred the way a religious person

00:11:25.000 might.

00:11:25.380 So it is actually, um, in a way it, it, it could help defuse things by taking this and

00:11:34.380 removing this as a target is actually probably a very good thing.

00:11:39.980 Long run.

00:11:40.840 That's a different way of looking at that.

00:11:42.200 But, uh, I mean, just imagine what, it's certainly better than today would be like if we found

00:11:46.840 out last night, if they had blown that up and there are a million conspiracies going

00:11:50.780 around, but be clear that if it was ISIS and it was confirmed, there'd be a million

00:11:54.480 conspiracy theorists saying they were only blaming Muslims, uh, because, uh, you know,

00:12:00.820 they wanted to inflame tensions and create war.

00:12:04.620 So like, and there's no side is, is, is, uh, innocent on this one.

00:12:08.900 Yeah.

00:12:09.340 Um, that's why we want to be very, very clear that it looks like it is not anything to do

00:12:15.560 with extremism of any kind.

00:12:17.780 So remember the extremism was going in on all directions in France that just this last weekend,

00:12:24.060 they told the police, I love this, that you can actually load your guns now.

00:12:29.340 Uh, and you can shoot a yellow vest, uh, protester if you feel you need to.

00:12:35.560 Do they know that guns become dangerous when you load them?

00:12:37.700 I don't.

00:12:38.520 I, it's France.

00:12:39.440 Probably not.

00:12:40.340 They don't.

00:12:40.840 They're still trying to fit.

00:12:41.780 What is this?

00:12:42.820 Bullet?

00:12:43.320 I don't understand.

00:12:44.340 Here comes Adolf.

00:12:45.000 We can load our guns now.

00:12:48.000 Uh, all right.

00:12:48.860 Uh, first, let me tell you before we get back into this and debunk some of those conspiracy

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00:14:09.180 This is the sound outside of the, uh, Notre Dame, uh, cathedral, uh, last night as people

00:14:16.720 gathered.

00:14:17.540 The Lord is with you.

00:14:21.240 You are blessed among all men.

00:14:26.500 And Jesus, your child, is blessed.

00:14:31.360 Holy Mary, Lord of God, pray for us.

00:14:38.640 Amazing.

00:14:40.440 Okay, so Jason is here.

00:14:42.700 Jason Batrille, who is, uh, a, um, uh, chief researcher and, and has been watching these

00:14:48.800 things in particular, especially ISIS, uh, in Europe with me for over five years now.

00:14:54.620 Um, this is something that we, we saw coming just not through construction.

00:15:00.400 Uh, how convinced are you that there is construction, Jason?

00:15:04.120 I'm 90% convinced.

00:15:06.440 Uh, they're, so the, the first couple of, uh, fire alarms that went off centered around

00:15:13.420 the area where they're, they're actually doing the renovations.

00:15:17.000 Um, so I think it's the, right at the base of the spire that you saw collapse yesterday.

00:15:21.480 So to me, it sounds, they were not working at six o'clock, were they?

00:15:25.400 This is when the fire broke out was around six.

00:15:27.580 Yeah.

00:15:28.040 I mean, the French working till six, that's not possible.

00:15:31.540 No, that's unheard of.

00:15:32.300 Yeah.

00:15:32.700 They were like work an hour a day.

00:15:35.600 Yeah, no, it didn't sound like it.

00:15:37.020 And all the, like I was, I was reading like their schedule and apparently they take very,

00:15:41.420 very special care to inspect that area because it's that wooden, you know, iconic wooden,

00:15:46.920 you know, area up there.

00:15:48.340 And the, and I guess they inspect it three times a day to make sure that doesn't catch

00:15:53.120 fire.

00:15:53.640 Oh, you're kidding.

00:15:54.700 Three times a day.

00:15:56.380 But tragically, that's exactly the spot that catches fire.

00:15:59.540 It's just, it's absolutely horrible.

00:16:02.300 So what, what do we, I know we don't have any clue, but I mean, are we guessing that

00:16:08.720 it was like electrical or that?

00:16:11.780 That's what I think.

00:16:12.800 Unless it was some French drywaller that was like, oh, you know, and threw a cigarette

00:16:17.380 butt or something like that.

00:16:18.580 But I don't think that's the case.

00:16:20.460 My guess would be probably like some electrical equipment that malfunctioned or short circuited

00:16:24.740 or something like that.

00:16:25.680 That's the only thing I can think of.

00:16:27.600 But so tell me about the, the fire department, not being dispatched right away.

00:16:32.740 Did you read up on that at all?

00:16:34.100 There was a, yeah.

00:16:34.700 So the very first call was like, like you said, somewhere around six.

00:16:38.600 Then I guess they, they went to inspect it.

00:16:41.060 Couldn't see a fire up there.

00:16:42.680 So then they called it.

00:16:44.200 So, but then 20 minutes later, I think it was 20 minutes, the fire alarm goes off again.

00:16:48.800 But this time they were like, let's get somebody out of here because this is kind of crazy.

00:16:51.820 But then it took an extended, another extended period of time for the fire trucks to get

00:16:55.940 there because that was right during rush hour.

00:16:58.240 So not only were they delayed because of the second call, they had a first call.

00:17:01.540 They kind of dismissed it.

00:17:02.540 Then they were delayed in traffic.

00:17:03.900 So that's what took so long.

00:17:05.320 And I guess that's why the fire was able to spread without them actually doing anything

00:17:08.180 for such a long time.

00:17:09.540 Unbelievable.

00:17:10.040 Horrible.

00:17:10.620 Okay.

00:17:10.860 So as you were looking, I asked you yesterday afternoon when this happened, I said, Jason,

00:17:15.940 go look and see, because I didn't think that even if it, if it was Islamic extremism, I didn't

00:17:24.160 think we would be getting the truth because it would set fire to the entire country.

00:17:29.600 And so they might want to bury this.

00:17:33.220 Did you see any evidence of anybody burying anything?

00:17:38.680 Nobody burying anything.

00:17:40.100 A whole lot of evidence of people coming out and saying a lot of crazy stuff.

00:17:44.600 Correct.

00:17:45.080 And that's what's insane is just how, pardon the pun, on fire France is right now.

00:17:52.620 Well, there's been 11, there have been 11 churches in the last, what, 40 days in France that

00:17:59.380 have been burned.

00:18:01.400 Yeah.

00:18:01.720 12 churches in one week last month.

00:18:04.220 Uh, one was the, uh, saint soul peace, uh, church, which was in the Da Vinci code in the

00:18:10.240 movie.

00:18:10.600 Uh, they use that, um, that fire documentary, the documentary Da Vinci code.

00:18:15.600 Yeah.

00:18:16.200 Um, love that had, uh, people went in and actually said, by the way, if you ever go into the Vatican

00:18:21.420 secret archives, which nobody ever gets to go in, but I went in, do not bring up Dan Brown.

00:18:28.720 Which you did, by the way.

00:18:31.960 Which I did, and it got ugly fast.

00:18:35.420 They do not think it's funny.

00:18:36.980 No.

00:18:37.680 No.

00:18:38.240 We were walking, there was no problem, everybody's just walking along, having a nice time, we're

00:18:42.460 just chit-chatting on way from one place to another.

00:18:45.140 And I said, so let me ask you, I know it's not true, but the Dan Brown, I got that far

00:18:50.800 and everyone stopped.

00:18:52.840 Dan Brown, he is not a scholar.

00:18:55.940 Okay.

00:18:56.600 Okay.

00:18:57.000 Okay.

00:18:57.280 Okay.

00:18:57.540 I got it.

00:18:57.920 I got it.

00:18:58.960 Anyway.

00:19:00.320 Um, the saint soul peace fire was set in like some clothing.

00:19:03.840 So like the clothing they set out for the poor.

00:19:05.920 Yeah.

00:19:06.220 Some people went and set fire to that, but that was, so that was one of the fires.

00:19:08.960 They were able to put that out without anybody getting hurt.

00:19:11.160 Um, but the other attacks were really, really crude and vulgar.

00:19:14.540 One was, uh, another attack that week where they put, uh, some, some vandals came in and

00:19:18.880 they put excrement on the wall and made a cross.

00:19:20.800 Another one is that is very biblical excrement in, and using it to deface things is very

00:19:31.120 biblical.

00:19:31.880 We talked about this.

00:19:33.120 Remember during, uh, occupy wall street where they were defecating on cop cars and they were

00:19:37.820 defecating on things.

00:19:39.140 It's actually part of a ritual, um, uh, uh, old Testament, evil, evil bail kind of stuff.

00:19:48.440 Uh, excrement is, um, is, is, is ritualistic in its own right.

00:19:54.840 And that's just one of the attacks that others involved.

00:19:57.940 Uh, they all typically involved desecrating the, the, the Christ statue or a symbol up on the

00:20:04.400 walls, contorting him into obscene gestures, desecrating the altars, things like that was

00:20:09.420 really, really just crude, vile things.

00:20:12.140 Right.

00:20:12.320 And there was, I think 60 of these in the last, uh, in the last year in, uh, Germany and,

00:20:19.540 and Brussels.

00:20:20.420 The attacks on Christians is out of control in Europe.

00:20:25.840 Oh, absolutely out of control.

00:20:27.000 I looked at the official ministry of interior numbers.

00:20:29.180 There were over 1700 attacks, religious based attacks, either on churches or people, uh,

00:20:34.540 in 2018.

00:20:36.180 Um, only 100 of those were attacks on Muslims, which if you listen to anybody else, probably

00:20:42.800 talking about this pontificating about it, they're probably gonna say it's all about Muslims,

00:20:45.620 but only 100 of those 1700 were attacks on Muslims, um, 541 of those were anti-Semitic attacks

00:20:53.660 on Jews or synagogues.

00:20:55.720 1,063 were attacks on Christians and churches.

00:21:00.000 That comes out to about two a day from that time period up until today.

00:21:05.760 Uh, Christianity is under attack.

00:21:09.040 Thank God that that so far as we know was not the case in Paris yesterday.

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00:22:39.800 So we had part two of the Joe Biden expose Joe Biden's excellent adventure to China.

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00:22:50.400 Uh, welcome Pat Gray from Pat Gray unleashed the podcast that you can, uh, hear live as they

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00:23:04.120 Welcome to the program, Pat.

00:23:05.640 Thank you.

00:23:06.520 What do you want to talk about today?

00:23:07.740 Uh, well, I thought that, you know, the Notre Dame thing is so sad, 850 years of history,

00:23:14.680 just burning down in front of our eyes.

00:23:17.280 It's, it's amazing.

00:23:18.400 It was, it's, it's really kind of almost, um, emblematic of how I feel in some ways that

00:23:27.740 it's, we're losing our history.

00:23:30.420 We're, we're just destroying, uh, the great, uh, accomplishments.

00:23:36.640 We're changing our conversation.

00:23:38.660 We're changing our traditions.

00:23:40.600 We're changing our history.

00:23:42.560 Right.

00:23:43.280 Yes.

00:23:43.800 And it, and it is, you watch that and you thought it's gone.

00:23:47.300 Yeah.

00:23:47.740 Luckily it wasn't, but, uh, fortunately, yeah, they saved the main part of the cathedral,

00:23:52.620 which is great.

00:23:53.420 But that steeple crashing down was just so disheartening.

00:23:57.340 And was anybody else, you know, I wrote this in a tweet and I didn't see any of the responses.

00:24:01.980 So I don't, I don't know if anybody related to it, but I just said, uh, the steeple crashed.

00:24:07.480 And I said, uh, uh, those of us in America just had a horrible flashback.

00:24:13.900 Mm-hmm.

00:24:14.520 Did it feel that way to you?

00:24:15.600 It did.

00:24:15.900 I thought, I didn't know.

00:24:16.960 I thought of nine 11.

00:24:17.880 Yeah.

00:24:18.200 Me too.

00:24:18.880 I didn't know if anybody else felt that.

00:24:20.840 There's no evidence of that in this, but no, no, no.

00:24:23.260 But just the symbolism of that thing falling.

00:24:25.720 Yeah.

00:24:26.000 When it collapsed, it just felt the same.

00:24:28.240 It did.

00:24:28.580 Um, uh, but, uh, these evil billionaires who donated $339 million the day of the fire.

00:24:40.460 I wonder if that'll give anybody pause about evil billionaires.

00:24:44.780 Nope.

00:24:45.860 Already they've raised $600 million.

00:24:47.900 Did you see that?

00:24:48.980 It's something a little bit over $600 million.

00:24:51.780 You know how much it's going to cost to rebuild?

00:24:54.300 How much?

00:24:54.800 Uh, I don't, I don't remember.

00:24:56.260 A, we don't know the cost of rebuilding it, but they're just the cost alone.

00:24:59.940 Look up what the, look up what the restoration was supposed to cost.

00:25:03.480 Well, it can't be more than $600 million, can it?

00:25:06.540 Uh, yeah.

00:25:07.540 Yeah?

00:25:07.940 Really?

00:25:08.360 Yeah.

00:25:08.920 It was, uh, it, it, it, it, the, the, the restoration that they were doing, they just

00:25:15.980 started, was supposed to take 30 years to finish.

00:25:22.180 Wow.

00:25:22.620 For 30 years, we may not see this thing restored in our lifetime.

00:25:27.160 So they said before the blaze, restoration costs had already been estimated at $170 million.

00:25:32.440 Okay.

00:25:32.840 $170.

00:25:33.480 I thought, okay.

00:25:34.200 Well, I mean.

00:25:34.580 That's a lot.

00:25:35.100 It's a lot.

00:25:35.740 Yeah.

00:25:35.860 That's just a restoration.

00:25:36.800 $600 to cover it.

00:25:38.700 Ah.

00:25:40.280 Do you, I mean, so maybe you just make it, maybe just make a normal concrete building and

00:25:44.040 just, you know, just make a skyscraper and call it a day.

00:25:46.460 Put it in a bubble, man.

00:25:47.340 So, uh, the, the thing that I saw, cause I, I went back and I was looking at what they

00:25:53.160 were restoring and the things that they couldn't restore at that point that they might now is

00:25:58.840 the concrete that they put between the stones has, has no, um, uh, I don't even know what

00:26:08.120 you would call it.

00:26:08.680 No way for the water to go through the concrete.

00:26:12.260 So the concrete is rock solid, but the stones are very porous.

00:26:18.020 And so what's happening is as it's been raining on it for all these years, these stones are

00:26:23.560 just washing away so that the entire walls are, are just rickety.

00:26:29.340 The, the concrete in between good, the stones are turning into sand.

00:26:35.500 Wow.

00:26:36.060 And so they don't, they didn't know at the time what they were going to do.

00:26:39.060 And I bet now with, with this kind of opportunity of, look, everything's destroyed on the inside.

00:26:45.540 Why don't we, why don't we start from the foundation and start to go back up?

00:26:49.740 I, I, I don't think it's just going to be a, a restoration of, you know, of what was lost.

00:26:56.520 I bet you it becomes a restoration from the ground up.

00:26:59.520 Well, it's, it's amazing to think that that building, our nation is about a third, the

00:27:04.580 age of that building.

00:27:06.480 One third.

00:27:07.680 Uh, we've been here for 243 years.

00:27:11.040 They're eight 50 and then they started building it 900 years ago.

00:27:15.340 I mean, that's amazing.

00:27:16.960 All of that history and so much of it just burned down yesterday.

00:27:20.280 It's really sad.

00:27:21.080 But how convinced are you though, that the actual crown of thorns has been stored there?

00:27:28.300 Uh, not actual, not, not convinced.

00:27:30.940 No, I'm a tad skeptical as well.

00:27:33.000 Yeah.

00:27:33.640 Well, it was found in five 70.

00:27:36.900 Was it?

00:27:37.620 Yeah.

00:27:38.040 Five 70.

00:27:38.680 Well, she, Mary Magdalene supposedly dropped it off, uh, long before that.

00:27:43.540 How come it took him so long to find?

00:27:45.300 I don't know.

00:27:46.260 I don't know.

00:27:47.160 It was in a basilica.

00:27:48.400 You would think you'd keep track of that.

00:27:50.120 Yeah.

00:27:50.260 Oh, that's from the actual crucifixion.

00:27:51.980 Yeah.

00:27:52.180 Maybe we should put that in a special place.

00:27:53.940 I don't know.

00:27:54.980 Well, what was the special place back then?

00:27:57.200 An attic, I guess.

00:27:58.340 No, it was like, it was like kids with, you know, their toys that were like, oh, that's

00:28:04.600 an original Star Wars.

00:28:05.920 You should have left it in the box.

00:28:09.720 A little more important than an original Star Wars.

00:28:12.920 I'm thinking.

00:28:13.500 Whatever.

00:28:13.820 Did you see that there's a movie coming out?

00:28:15.860 A Mary Magdalene movie?

00:28:17.840 Yeah.

00:28:18.400 With like.

00:28:18.920 About her specifically?

00:28:20.320 With like Joaquin Phoenix as Jesus?

00:28:21.260 Yeah.

00:28:21.580 What?

00:28:22.000 Oh, it's going to be.

00:28:22.700 I'm sure it's not going to be controversial at all.

00:28:24.560 So I have the screener.

00:28:26.360 They sent me the screener.

00:28:27.440 I haven't watched it yet.

00:28:28.280 What's it called?

00:28:29.860 Mary Magdalene.

00:28:30.620 I think it's called Mary Magdalene.

00:28:31.460 Oh, really?

00:28:31.980 Yeah.

00:28:32.340 And who plays Mary Magdalene?

00:28:34.520 It's a female.

00:28:35.800 I saw like the opening.

00:28:37.340 Self-gendered start.

00:28:38.080 I saw like the opening 10 minutes and it was really pretty good.

00:28:41.380 It was really good.

00:28:41.900 Well, if they sent it to you, though, that means that it is seemingly a real effort.

00:28:45.780 They must think it's really pretty good.

00:28:47.740 Remember, they invited us to go see Noah.

00:28:49.840 Well, true.

00:28:50.580 But Noah, they, I'm not saying it was the right movie, but they were trying to appeal.

00:28:55.940 They were trying.

00:28:56.800 It's not like a, you know, Last Temptation of Christ, right?

00:29:00.020 Where they're not trying to appeal to religious people.

00:29:02.360 They're trying to appeal to people, you know, maybe a mass audience.

00:29:04.340 Yeah, no, whoever made this is trying to appeal to religious audience.

00:29:08.020 I just don't know what it says.

00:29:09.340 I haven't watched the movie, but it looked really good.

00:29:11.200 I thought it looked really good.

00:29:12.120 Are they alleging the marriage in this?

00:29:13.160 I was surprised at the laser guns.

00:29:14.660 Is it like a relationship thing between the two of them?

00:29:16.740 No, they're not.

00:29:17.820 They are.

00:29:18.580 Not in the trailer, at least.

00:29:19.380 Yeah, no, she loves him and like romantically or to love, you know, that surpasses all love.

00:29:31.520 So it's not like the apocrypha, the apocrypha.

00:29:35.520 Yeah, I know, you know, alleges that they were married.

00:29:37.620 Correct.

00:29:38.060 So, but it's not a it's it didn't look like there was a temptation of, you know, if I could just get Jesus in the sack.

00:29:45.960 It doesn't look like that, which would be so horrible.

00:29:48.380 A very dedicated follower is the very dedicated follower.

00:29:51.280 And she's to be married to somebody else.

00:29:53.660 And she's like, I've got to be with him.

00:29:55.920 I have to be with him.

00:29:56.880 And it's not it didn't appear to be just a disciple thing.

00:30:00.860 Yes.

00:30:01.020 Right.

00:30:01.220 Yeah.

00:30:01.380 Yeah.

00:30:01.640 That's what it appears.

00:30:02.880 That's what it appears.

00:30:04.020 And she loves him.

00:30:05.360 But it seems like a Peter.

00:30:07.240 Yeah.

00:30:07.980 Yeah.

00:30:08.780 So a few billion people, too.

00:30:11.760 Yes.

00:30:12.400 You know, I know this is not.

00:30:13.600 So do I.

00:30:15.520 The number seems to be getting smaller recently.

00:30:18.380 Have you noticed?

00:30:19.160 Yeah.

00:30:19.180 There's been some symbolism in the last day or two.

00:30:21.200 That's been.

00:30:21.800 Yeah.

00:30:22.220 You know, certain buildings burning to the ground is a little.

00:30:26.540 It's a little.

00:30:27.120 I don't know.

00:30:27.860 It doesn't.

00:30:29.140 It's not the best optics at the moment.

00:30:32.900 No.

00:30:33.560 Considering the current state of faith in the world.

00:30:36.680 Perhaps another reminder.

00:30:37.760 And at the very start of Holy Week, it does seem more than coincidental.

00:30:43.040 But apparently, I mean, they're just saying it's coincidence, right?

00:30:45.920 So far, yeah.

00:30:46.760 They don't think there was anything nefarious going on.

00:30:49.440 They are not saying what the cause was yet, right?

00:30:52.040 They don't know.

00:30:52.420 I heard it was from the remodeling.

00:30:53.700 That's what they keep.

00:30:54.460 There's thing.

00:30:54.860 That's what they believe is most likely, however.

00:30:57.500 It started up on the real rickety wood part where they are remodeling.

00:31:02.940 But as we just pointed out with Jason, they check that three times a day specifically for fire.

00:31:11.560 They have.

00:31:11.920 They have.

00:31:12.400 Yeah.

00:31:12.860 An elaborate, elaborate checks and balances where an inspector comes three times a day.

00:31:19.100 So if you're inspecting it three times a day, you know that it's likely that the place could burn down if you're not careful.

00:31:27.980 Because it's really old, dry wood, right?

00:31:30.020 So maybe they should have checked it four times a day?

00:31:32.860 Yeah, maybe.

00:31:34.060 They call it the forest.

00:31:35.480 Is this the part that they call the forest?

00:31:37.460 Which is like such old wood that that was their nickname for it?

00:31:42.440 Which, you know.

00:31:43.180 Yeah, because I read someplace that it did take, it took like 54 forests to build that part.

00:31:50.440 It was like some ungodly.

00:31:53.440 Or godly.

00:31:54.160 Or godly.

00:31:54.860 In this case.

00:31:55.960 You know, amount of wood that was required for that part.

00:32:00.840 Yeah.

00:32:01.080 I thought it was amazing when the steeple was on fire right before it went down.

00:32:06.060 It was all covered in lead.

00:32:08.480 And the lead was literally melting.

00:32:10.180 And so when you look at the spire, if you can see it through the smoke, there's a couple of shots where it's kind of close.

00:32:18.620 And the spire, the actual structure of it, is just glowing red.

00:32:24.300 It's an amazing shot because everything was, all the metal was, of course, we know metal doesn't melt.

00:32:31.420 Right.

00:32:32.880 I remember that.

00:32:34.620 Steel certainly doesn't.

00:32:35.940 Yeah.

00:32:36.260 Unless you've seen it poured into a...

00:32:40.580 Fair point.

00:32:47.240 That was an optical illusion.

00:32:48.420 Yeah, okay.

00:32:49.060 Okay.

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00:34:23.040 Welcome to the program.

00:34:25.140 We're very glad that you joined us today.

00:34:28.660 Coming up in just a few minutes, we want to share with you what we've found about Joe Biden.

00:34:37.360 This is part two in our series.

00:34:39.680 You can watch it on Blaze TV in the archives from last night's broadcast.

00:34:46.540 And we ask you to share it and share the information with your friends.

00:34:51.220 It is quite remarkable.

00:34:53.260 I'm going to go over the information because I think it's something that you need to know.

00:34:58.660 And what is terrifying to me is, you know, we wondered why nobody looked into Gazprom.

00:35:07.240 We know that the FBI arrested Russians that were trying to influence our government when Hillary Clinton released all the uranium to be used by Gazprom.

00:35:26.540 They somehow or another just passed and it was just everybody looked the other way and everybody thought that was fine, even though her husband had gone over at the request of that company and gave speeches and was paid handsomely.

00:35:45.620 And then a nice donation to the Clinton Foundation was given.

00:35:52.400 I wondered why at the time, why isn't anybody willing to look into this?

00:35:56.880 I think it's because everybody's dirty.

00:36:02.620 Everybody's dirty.

00:36:03.480 The Clinton's really kind of started this and made it into a business.

00:36:08.980 And the the one who has, at least that we know of, who has really taken this to a whole new level is Joe Biden.

00:36:18.560 He has enriched his family in so many ways, as we told you yesterday when The New York Times called his brother who was in on one of these scams.

00:36:30.080 Uh, he called his brother and they were in researching another thing that Hunter Biden, Joe Biden's son was involved in.

00:36:40.060 And it was it was bad news, really bad news.

00:36:43.800 And Joe Biden's brother said, I had nothing to do with that.

00:36:47.640 I don't want to talk about it.

00:36:49.140 I don't want to be pulled into all of this.

00:36:53.100 And the question is, all of what?

00:36:56.340 All of what?

00:36:57.280 Perhaps you will see a glimpse into the world of Joe Biden and into the world of those who say they're just like you and they want fairness and they want equality.

00:37:11.740 They really don't.

00:37:13.420 They really don't.

00:37:14.380 They're being paid handsomely.

00:37:16.400 And it is a it is a it's a racket.

00:37:21.780 Our government has become a racket in many ways.

00:37:24.940 I mean, again, you said I think it's true that there are so many people are in on these types of things.

00:37:31.960 I know I made five deals in China last week.

00:37:34.720 My son, Zach, is a multibillionaire now.

00:37:37.040 Right.

00:37:37.780 You know, it had nothing to do with you.

00:37:39.620 Oh, it had nothing to do with me.

00:37:40.620 No, I mean, I just happened to go over there and make sure.

00:37:43.440 My daughter Ainsley got a construction project on a bridge over a massive river, which is incredible.

00:37:50.320 She's five, but she's you should see her with the Lincoln Logs.

00:37:53.120 They're incredible.

00:37:53.420 She's incredible with Lincoln Logs.

00:37:55.060 And they just looked at her and they said, you know what?

00:37:56.480 She's got the she's got it.

00:37:58.360 She's got what we need here.

00:37:59.680 That's the really unique thing here.

00:38:01.560 When you see what the Bidens have pulled off, the brother is put on to a construction company board.

00:38:10.560 He has no construction experience.

00:38:13.500 This is a brand new company and they get a one point five billion dollar contract from the government.

00:38:18.720 That it happens.

00:38:19.980 Sometimes you just see potential.

00:38:21.600 This person can build something.

00:38:24.140 I think probably when you see what the Bidens have done in China.

00:38:30.820 Yeah, it's it's really horrifying to see that.

00:38:37.900 How embarrassing and how corrupt our officials appear to be in other countries called good parenting.

00:38:45.000 Glenn, you help out your family.

00:38:46.480 Lori Loughlin told us all about this.

00:38:48.260 OK, you just get when you have a little bit of extra money, a little bit of extra power.

00:38:52.860 You put that to use to help your kids.

00:38:54.960 What's wrong with that?

00:38:55.840 That's just called parenting.

00:38:57.860 We can all look to that as an example of how we should all live our lives.

00:39:02.040 Unfortunately, I think that's the mentality in Washington.

00:39:05.180 I think that's the way they sleep at night.

00:39:07.540 They're like, hey, look, everybody's doing it.

00:39:09.740 Yep.

00:39:09.980 And I'm just helping out my family.

00:39:12.360 But wait until you see we have we have we're becoming an oligarchy.

00:39:18.780 We really are.

00:39:19.940 And the oligarchs are the ones who are already in office or climbing the ladder.

00:39:26.940 Thank you very much.

00:39:28.000 We're going into Joe Biden here in just a second.

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00:40:34.320 You know, Joe Biden always likes to remind people that he's just Joe Lunchbucket.

00:40:45.800 He's just, you know, Lunchbucket Joe, just the average guy traveling on Amtrak.

00:40:50.840 You know, sure, they they named the Amtrak station after me, but I'm just like the regular the regular people and I don't have an awful lot of wealth or anything like that.

00:41:01.140 This is so carefully crafted by Joe.

00:41:06.100 He he doesn't realize that the American people are really kind of on to it.

00:41:14.520 And when you hear the details of what we're on to, it's nothing but crony capitalism.

00:41:21.280 The guy who says, you know, we just got to get business out of government.

00:41:26.140 We've got to get we've got to get the money to the people.

00:41:29.760 Well, his greatest political achievement is being the biggest crony capitalist ever in the office of the vice president.

00:41:40.200 This is the most corrupt man we've ever had in that office.

00:41:43.960 And you will understand why beginning in one minute.

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00:43:13.860 So last last Thursday on television, I did part one, a major chalkboard explaining how Joe Biden's son, Hunter,

00:43:34.740 came to be on the board of Ukraine's largest private natural gas company, even though he has absolutely no natural gas experience.

00:43:45.240 And even though the company, the natural gas company in Ukraine was run by a notoriously corrupt oligarch and one point five billion dollars of U.S.

00:43:57.820 money just simply disappeared through his fingers.

00:44:00.840 As bad as things look in the Ukraine, it's the tip of the iceberg compared to what Joe Biden and John Kerry set up for their sons while they were vice president and secretary of state.

00:44:18.280 I'm going to lay out quickly here the business deals in China, and it wasn't just massive money changing hands.

00:44:26.660 This is profiting from companies that are actively trying to steal from and gain a competitive advantage over the U.S.

00:44:33.900 This is a challenge to our national security.

00:44:38.420 If anyone thinks that Joe Biden should be the candidate, I warn you, he is not on our side.

00:44:47.220 In 2010, well, let me let me start here.

00:44:49.960 2008, the election happened.

00:44:52.140 2009, Joe Biden was made the vice president.

00:44:55.500 Just a few months, a few months later, his son, Hunter, decided to start up a new business with with Chris Hines.

00:45:06.500 That's John Kerry's stepson.

00:45:08.780 So now the vice president and the soon to be secretary of state are in business together and they're doing an investment fund.

00:45:16.040 Neither of them have any international investment background.

00:45:19.880 So they bring in John Kerry's former finance manager for his campaign, who happened to be a roommate of theirs in college.

00:45:30.660 They come together and they form something called Rosemont Seneca Partners.

00:45:36.200 This is international investments.

00:45:40.880 So they do that in 2009.

00:45:43.100 And then just a few months later, in 2010, Joe Biden is meeting with President who from China in Washington as part of a national security summit.

00:45:54.480 What?

00:45:55.420 Who?

00:45:56.640 You really have to you want to go?

00:45:58.300 I just want to.

00:45:58.800 You just president who who Joe while Joe Biden was in this meeting, Hunter Biden was in China with his two Rosemont Seneca partners, John Kerry's stepson and the former campaign finance manager, Devon Archer.

00:46:15.760 The trio had meetings at the same time.

00:46:20.000 Daddy is meeting with the head of China.

00:46:22.820 The sons are meeting now with the executives from China's largest banks, also China's sovereign wealth fund and their social security funds.

00:46:34.520 A year later, Joe Biden meets with Chinese officials for the U.S. in the strategic of the China's strategic economic dialogue in Washington.

00:46:42.800 Two weeks later, Hunter Biden and his partners meet in Taiwan with the same Chinese financial guys that they met in China in 2010, plus some new ones.

00:46:54.520 In the book, Secret Empires, investigative author Peter Schweitzer says this to give you an idea of how important these meetings were.

00:47:07.180 Peter writes, it's as if the son of the Chinese premier held a single meeting with the heads of Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, J.P. Morgan, Merrill Lynch and Blackstone.

00:47:21.180 Except in this case, these were government entities with trillions of dollars of capital to invest.

00:47:27.640 In December 2013, Joe Biden traveled to China on an extended official trip with him.

00:47:34.560 He took on Air Force Two Hunter Biden and his daughter.

00:47:39.280 They were greeted by a red carpet delegation and children bearing flowers.

00:47:43.700 And vice president met with President Xi for over five hours.

00:47:48.260 And they talked about everything.

00:47:49.640 Now, what was Hunter doing?

00:47:52.160 Well, Hunter was there for business as well.

00:47:54.880 Now, we don't know exactly who he met with or what was discussed, but we do know that just two weeks later, a deal was signed with Rosemont Seneca and the Bank of China.

00:48:09.200 Now, 10 days after his trip, he does a closes on a deal with the Bank of China.

00:48:16.760 This is the most powerful financial institution in China, and they form a joint venture with this startup company that has no one.

00:48:29.400 How's that possible?

00:48:32.080 Rosemont Seneca and the Bank of China merge and create a giant investment fund called BHR, Bohai Harvest Rosemont.

00:48:42.760 Now, think about this.

00:48:44.420 The government owned Bank of China funding a business that it co-owned with the son of the U.S. vice president and the son of the U.S. secretary of state.

00:48:55.480 And since the bank is government owned, it meant that business was completely intertwined with the communist government's goals.

00:49:23.760 But don't worry, nothing bad happened.

00:49:28.720 Well, kind of.

00:49:33.880 Now, think of all of the foreign firms that are trying to do business with China that have established records.

00:49:40.960 How did Rosemont Seneca score this sweetheart deal?

00:49:45.460 And this is a sweetheart deal.

00:49:47.100 It got to operate in a brand new Shanghai free trade zone where it could use one point five billion dollars of Chinese government money to invest in China or any place in the world.

00:49:59.920 Any place they decided that it would be good.

00:50:02.360 And they brought those dollars home to the U.S., which is really great.

00:50:07.800 First, first, however, they invested in in something else.

00:50:12.700 Now, remember, this is something that no other Goldman Sachs doesn't have this relationship.

00:50:17.840 How did this investment house with two guys that don't have any real experience in this, a brand new firm with very few, if any, clients at the time get a deal that Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan Chase can't get?

00:50:33.980 Well, they made a couple of they made a couple of investments in technology in 2014, BHR.

00:50:44.500 That's the Biden Hunter Biden organization with the Bank of China invested in the China General Nuclear Power Corporation.

00:50:53.680 Now, this is this is wonderful.

00:50:55.200 C.G.N. is a Chinese government owned nuclear power company that sold off a stake of the company to outside investors.

00:51:04.500 Now, here's the problem.

00:51:05.460 At the same time that Hunter Biden and his group with China is buying this.

00:51:14.300 C.G.N. was under FBI investigation for stealing U.S. nuclear secrets for years.

00:51:20.680 C.G.N. actively paid informants in the U.S. to smuggle nuclear secrets out.

00:51:26.320 And the FBI probe, by the way, resulted in several Americans getting arrested.

00:51:31.500 Yet while the FBI probe was going on, the son of the vice president and the son of the secretary of state, which was in business with the Bank of China.

00:51:44.540 C.G.N. bought a stake in this company being investigated, even after the arrests were made, Rosemont Seneca did not alter its relationship with BHR.

00:51:56.900 Neither did BHR divest from the the the Chinese government owned company that was stealing our nuclear secrets.

00:52:05.180 Now, how is that possible?

00:52:07.280 How did that not even get into the news?

00:52:10.340 Here's the other one.

00:52:15.060 In 2015, BHR partnered with the Aviation Industry Industry Corporation of China.

00:52:22.540 Now, what is that?

00:52:24.660 The Aviation Industry Corporation of China is basically their Hewlett Packard or I'm sorry, they're not Hewlett Packard.

00:52:33.800 They're Lockheed Martin.

00:52:36.420 It is their big aerospace company.

00:52:42.560 They build all of the fighters, all of the drones, absolutely everything.

00:52:47.820 So here's Hunter Biden and Christopher Hines in a business deal with the Bank of China buying into AVIC, the big military contractor.

00:53:00.640 And they decide that they need to invest in some new technology.

00:53:05.960 And so they bring some of that money home.

00:53:08.700 BHR bought 49 percent of a company here in America called Henegies and AVIC bought 51 percent.

00:53:17.200 So now they own 100 percent of this this great company here in America.

00:53:23.920 What do they do?

00:53:25.940 Well, this company makes precision parts and they specialize in anti vibration technology and the technology that they they build and the parts that they make are known as dual use by the U.S.

00:53:39.540 State Department, which means you can also use this on bombers, stealth bombers and any kind of machine for war.

00:53:50.400 Now, usually that has to be approved by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S.

00:53:56.460 and it was approved quickly.

00:53:59.760 No big deal.

00:54:00.600 But why not?

00:54:01.720 I mean, the secretary of state son and the vice president son are the ones doing the buying.

00:54:08.160 According to Schweitzer, a U.S.

00:54:10.440 intelligence community has long recognized that Chinese the Chinese government is committed to acquiring Western machine tool technology,

00:54:17.760 especially the kind of tech where it is difficult to distinguish between civilian and military use of the equipment.

00:54:23.960 Also, it wasn't like BHR didn't know what it was getting into when it said, oh, you know what?

00:54:31.020 We just did the nuclear deal and that didn't turn out well.

00:54:35.120 Of course, we still have that.

00:54:37.340 But yeah, they were spying against our country.

00:54:40.620 We don't want to do another deal like that.

00:54:43.640 A year before Hunter Biden and Christopher Hines decided to form a partnership with AVIC,

00:54:52.240 the Wall Street Journal reported how this this this war plant stole technology related to the U.S.

00:55:04.480 Air Force's F-35 stealth fighter.

00:55:08.320 They stole that information and then they used it, manufactured the product and put it in to the stealth fighter for the Chinese.

00:55:17.360 That's the company that the vice president's son invests in.

00:55:24.920 And then helps buy a critical machining operation here in America.

00:55:31.320 So if you're keeping score, the company owned by Hunter Biden and John Kerry's stepson and their friend became the Chinese conduit to buy U.S. technology.

00:55:40.860 Their company was also used to invest in Chinese nuclear power, helping support the company that had worked for years to steal U.S. nuclear secrets.

00:55:49.260 Meanwhile, as all of these deals and investments progressed, Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Joe Kerry were having ongoing sensitive talks with the Chinese government about multiple issues, including China's effort in 2014 to control the South China Sea.

00:56:06.860 You tell me if Joe Biden, if he loves his country more than self.

00:56:18.900 Is he putting his himself or his family over the safety and security of our nation?

00:56:27.540 In some cultures, this would not go well for somebody who is doing this to their own country.

00:56:39.060 It is incredible to me that none of this has even been on the news.

00:56:46.880 If Joe Biden runs and this is not uncovered by the mainstream media, you will know he's not alone.

00:56:59.220 If it's not covered by places like Fox, you will know, wow, the Democrats are not the only ones doing this.

00:57:14.840 All right, I want to talk to you a little bit about gold.

00:57:17.360 China and Russia, they are buying massive, massive amounts.

00:57:22.720 Yesterday was kind of a wake up call for me again.

00:57:26.320 It was just another one of those moments where you kind of look at what's happening in the news and you're like the Western world is being erased.

00:57:33.980 Now, yesterday it was just we think an act of God.

00:57:37.640 It was an accident on on Notre Dame.

00:57:40.860 However, it was very symbolic of our faith and our culture and everything just going away, burning down.

00:57:48.020 Our currency is following in the same path as Venezuela, except Venezuela didn't have us.

00:57:57.080 It didn't have what we have, which is the world's reserve currency.

00:58:01.680 If you look at Venezuela now, it is worse, worse than it was in Zimbabwe.

00:58:08.920 That's saying something.

00:58:10.340 Once we start to lose world currency, once we start to lose the the gold standard in America and Russia and China start to do business with Saudi Arabia, which they are.

00:58:26.300 And Saudi Arabia, God forbid, ever says we don't we'll take other things other than U.S. dollars.

00:58:31.700 The dollar collapses overnight.

00:58:35.480 That's huge.

00:58:36.500 Everything you own is valued in dollars.

00:58:41.840 Gold stands alone.

00:58:44.660 Gold is the gold standard.

00:58:46.960 And when things go crazy, even temporarily crazy, you need something of value.

00:58:52.240 So your family is safe and fed and you're OK.

00:58:56.680 Gold line has that safety net for you.

00:59:00.260 It's it's the legal tender bar.

00:59:03.240 And it was made specifically for gold line at my request for you.

00:59:08.200 The Canadian mint printed or didn't print of forged.

00:59:12.880 I think that's what do you call it when you make a coin like this forged 10 one tenth ounce gold bullion bars.

00:59:20.420 It's great for bartering.

00:59:21.960 I want you to find out all about it.

00:59:23.340 Read their important risk information at one eight six six gold line one eight six six gold line or gold line dot com.

00:59:29.940 We break for 10 second station.

00:59:31.120 Man, I'm running so late.

00:59:48.300 Stu has a quick government efficiency stat to pass on.

00:59:52.320 Yeah. Standard oil was broken up, as you may remember.

00:59:57.420 They started this process 110 years ago.

01:00:00.580 And, you know, they when they did it, they decided it was going to take about six months to do.

01:00:04.940 Just finished.

01:00:07.460 I'm sorry. What?

01:00:08.680 They just finished the work.

01:00:09.900 Finally, 110 years later.

01:00:12.040 They're all set.

01:00:12.840 Now, standard oil.

01:00:13.960 Now, the entire market has changed.

01:00:16.640 Excuse me.

01:00:17.500 Tire market has changed.

01:00:18.600 Tire economy has changed.

01:00:20.460 So this entire monopoly thing that they went after.

01:00:23.280 Now, 110 years later, they're finally wrapping it up slightly longer than the six month deadline they had to do it.

01:00:31.400 So that is incredible.

01:00:33.880 It's incredible.

01:00:35.600 And, you know, they only really tried to enforce it one time in the 30s.

01:00:39.180 But eventually, I mean, things like Exxon Mobil came out of this and everything.

01:00:43.400 It did eventually wind up being broken up, but there were still details being wrapped up.

01:00:47.500 And finally, we're all set on that one.

01:00:49.860 So if you were watching, if you had back in, you know, if you're 120, 130 years old and you had a pool, you happen to have 2019 in that pool.

01:00:57.700 You are the winner.

01:00:58.940 And you are also way ahead of the game.

01:01:00.740 I told them, they're never getting done.

01:01:04.100 Of course, now it's going to be difficult to collect because all your friends are dead.

01:01:08.500 But what a winner you would have been.

01:01:11.300 Yeah.

01:01:11.520 What a winner you would have been.

01:01:13.580 That's absolutely incredible.

01:01:15.520 And if that doesn't show you the power of money in politics.

01:01:20.040 And just complete inefficiency, right?

01:01:23.200 I mean, these things drag on and on.

01:01:26.240 We've talked about the, you know, the tax for a flood like 50 years ago.

01:01:31.080 The flood has been cleared up.

01:01:32.600 The water is no longer there.

01:01:34.240 They're still collecting the tax for it.

01:01:35.940 These things happen forever.

01:01:37.840 This is why you don't want government to control your health care.

01:01:40.460 Or anything else in your life.

01:01:43.500 All right.

01:01:44.160 Let me talk to you a little bit about LifeLock in a second.

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01:02:13.720 Yeah, they've been exposed.

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01:02:17.000 In fact, they were exposed and free and ready for public download.

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01:03:13.720 The Biden thing is a little tough to follow.

01:03:15.400 There's so many moving parts.

01:03:16.280 So you can see this all laid out on a chalkboard Glenn did it on TV last night.

01:03:20.140 Go to blazetv.com slash Glenn.

01:03:21.860 Use the promo code GLENN.

01:03:25.000 We have Ami Horowitz, a documentary filmmaker and good friend of the program.

01:03:31.160 He is a guy who has gone in.

01:03:34.060 He did a great documentary.

01:03:38.480 I'm sorry.

01:03:39.140 Oh, we have Steve Katz on now.

01:03:41.160 I'm sorry.

01:03:41.760 I'm sorry.

01:03:42.300 Ami is coming up in a few minutes.

01:03:43.780 I'm sorry.

01:03:44.400 I thought it was Ami.

01:03:44.840 I'm just teasing the interview.

01:03:46.120 It's just coming up in a while.

01:03:47.140 Yeah, I'm sorry.

01:03:48.420 Steve Katz is with us.

01:03:50.220 He is the producer of Unplanned.

01:03:55.440 He was an attorney for a long, long time until he moved to California, went out to the entertainment industry,

01:04:01.640 and now is the executive producer of the movie Unplanned.

01:04:05.380 Welcome to the program.

01:04:06.580 Steve, how are you?

01:04:07.480 Thank you, Glenn.

01:04:08.800 I'm great.

01:04:09.300 How are you?

01:04:09.780 Very, very good.

01:04:11.040 Congratulations on Unplanned.

01:04:13.060 Well, I appreciate it.

01:04:14.140 It's been a labor of love, and it's been pushing a boulder up a hill, as they say in Hollywood,

01:04:18.500 which is what it takes to get any movie made.

01:04:20.480 But this one particularly, so I think we had to push a boulder up a hill wearing swimsuits

01:04:24.940 in the snow, frankly, to get this movie made.

01:04:27.040 But it has been kind of wildly successful and has exceeded our expectations.

01:04:32.180 And more than anything, it's been really successful in changing people's minds

01:04:35.680 and at least opening them to the possibility of looking at some critical issues in a new way.

01:04:40.620 So I will tell you, Steve, I didn't want to see this movie because I thought it would be, you know,

01:04:45.840 the same crappy fare of a Christian movie that was preachy and everybody who was not on the right side was evil.

01:04:53.200 And you guys did such a great job of making this not that kind of movie where I think it does reach a wide audience.

01:05:04.320 I just talked to somebody last night who came up almost in tears and said, I have to thank you.

01:05:09.240 I brought my family to see Unplanned, and I would never have gone.

01:05:16.460 And I took the kids and, you know, they're teenagers.

01:05:18.840 And they said, our conversations about this are completely different now.

01:05:25.240 Well, that's right.

01:05:26.280 And I think, you know, so much of the credit goes to Abby Johnson because her amazing true story,

01:05:30.740 which is the foundation for this film, is just incredible because she's someone who actually lived this story.

01:05:36.340 She began as an ardent feminist.

01:05:38.680 She was very pro-choice.

01:05:41.060 And over time, she evolved when she sort of saw what was happening.

01:05:44.840 And, of course, the filmmakers, Kerry Solomon and Chuck Consulman, are just incredible writers and directors.

01:05:50.720 And, you know, you mentioned earlier that so many of the films in the faith-based space tend to be not all that great.

01:05:55.980 And, you know, I've been involved in productions on both sides.

01:05:58.360 But what you find in the faith-based space especially is you'll get, you know, people who believe, you know, have the beliefs,

01:06:05.360 but they don't really write well.

01:06:06.820 And on the other hand, you'll get people in Hollywood who see an opportunity, you know, just to make money.

01:06:11.080 And they might be good writers, but they don't have the beliefs.

01:06:14.580 And with Kerry and Chuck, you sort of get both.

01:06:17.440 So, Steve, I want to talk to you a little bit about, you know, if a tree falls in the forest and no one's there to see it, did it really fall?

01:06:24.400 Well, we have a situation to where, and it was really apparent with Unplanned, you could not have advertising on entire networks, Lifetime, UpTV, Hallmark, HGTV, USA Food Network, Travel Channel, DYI, Cooking Channel.

01:06:47.880 You were not welcome anywhere.

01:06:50.680 So let me just talk about that first.

01:06:52.680 And K-Love, a Christian rock station, no less.

01:06:56.580 How?

01:06:58.440 You know, Glenn, I think that people, frankly, are just afraid of this topic.

01:07:04.200 And they're afraid of being, they're afraid of being tarnished, and they just don't want to touch it.

01:07:10.700 Frankly, we don't buy that argument because Hollywood embraces those sort of ads for, you know, pro-abortion movies all the time.

01:07:18.920 And as we understand it, Sandra Bullock now has a property that she's going to be doing where she's going to play Wendy Davis, the, you know, Texas state legislator who ran for governor.

01:07:28.680 Does anyone really think that Google or, you know, Twitter will not be running ads for her film?

01:07:34.820 No.

01:07:34.960 It's astonishing.

01:07:36.280 Then what happened with Twitter on the opening weekend?

01:07:39.180 Yeah, so what happened with Twitter was we had had the account up for seven months, and we had had up to, I think, about 100,000 followers or so.

01:07:47.460 On opening weekend, the account was taken down on Saturday morning.

01:07:51.060 No explanation given.

01:07:52.280 All of a sudden, the account's not there.

01:07:53.940 So what happened was our lead actress couldn't even follow her own movie on Twitter, and it caused an uproar.

01:08:00.080 And to their credit, a lot of people, I think, Shannon Breen, Fox, and others started, you know, tweeting Jack Dorsey saying, hey, what's going on?

01:08:06.640 So they ultimately restored it a number of hours later.

01:08:09.700 And, you know, the excuse that they gave us just doesn't hold water.

01:08:13.560 What they said was that they thought the account may have been linked to someone who was a bad actor and had a different account taken down, and so I have an abundance of caution.

01:08:24.280 You know, they took down our account.

01:08:26.160 But that really sort of smells because the account had been up for seven months, and it's just not a coincidence that they take it down on opening weekend.

01:08:34.420 So you had to go to Congress, did you not, and testify?

01:08:37.100 Well, yes.

01:08:38.000 Our director, co-director Chuck Cosman, went to Congress.

01:08:40.720 He spoke before a Senate hearing with Senator Cruz, and the topic was big tech censorship of conservative ideas.

01:08:48.060 And, by the way, it's not just Twitter.

01:08:49.680 We try to run banner ads on Google, and Google advertises, you know, the banner ads as a service that's open to anyone for any viewpoint, any legitimate viewpoint,

01:08:58.720 and they simply refuse to accept our banner ads.

01:09:01.660 And to make the situation worse, and this is really kind of incredible, the day after Chuck testified,

01:09:07.180 Google, when you did a Google search on the film, Unplanned, it brought up the poster, and next to it, it described the film as drama slash propaganda.

01:09:16.700 I kid you not.

01:09:17.580 Oh, my gosh.

01:09:18.880 This is the day after he testified before the Senate.

01:09:21.740 And, you know, we immediately then, you know, started checking to see what they were doing with other films.

01:09:26.880 And if you can believe it, the classic Nazi propaganda film, Triumph of the Will by Lenny Riefenstahl, they didn't mark that as propaganda.

01:09:36.060 They did not.

01:09:37.120 It was not marked as propaganda.

01:09:39.140 That's the quintessential propaganda film.

01:09:42.220 It's a Nazi propaganda film, right?

01:09:44.020 How did they do Inconvenient Truth with Al Gore?

01:09:47.220 Was that propaganda?

01:09:49.660 Oh, you mean the snow hasn't all melted on Mount Vernon?

01:09:52.480 No, it hasn't.

01:09:53.540 No.

01:09:53.940 I guess it's still there.

01:09:55.040 Yeah.

01:09:55.540 You know, but any of the Michael Moore movies, any of the Che Guevara movies were not listed as propaganda.

01:10:01.720 So once again, you know, we raised an outcry and they rectified it.

01:10:05.380 But the question is, why should we have to do that to begin with?

01:10:08.060 Why can't they just be a neutral arbiter?

01:10:09.480 So, Steve, you know, as we try to break through barriers, the barriers just keep changing and they just put a new one in front of us.

01:10:21.040 I mean, you know, first you have to make the movie yourself.

01:10:24.480 So we do.

01:10:25.720 Then you have to get it into movie theaters.

01:10:28.260 And we do.

01:10:30.180 Then you have to advertise.

01:10:32.380 Well, we're losing advertising.

01:10:34.220 We're losing we're losing the battle on online and we're we're being subjected to what I would call digital ghettoization.

01:10:45.480 It's the same thing the Germans did to the Jews.

01:10:48.140 Hey, talk all you want just behind this wall so nobody will see you or hear you.

01:10:53.520 That's a problem.

01:10:54.840 Yeah, it is a problem.

01:10:55.980 And it's just so rife with hypocrisy, because when you think about how even to this day, so many voices on the left continue to lament the blacklisting of the 1940s.

01:11:05.620 And they lionize people like, you know, Dalton Trumbo and Paul Robeson, who were denied a platform and denied the opportunity to work because of their opinions.

01:11:15.500 And so many of these same people on the left are doing the exact employing the exact same tactics today.

01:11:20.340 And it's like, why?

01:11:21.160 Why are you afraid to engage in these battle of ideas?

01:11:23.980 So what do you what do you think we do?

01:11:27.660 What should we do?

01:11:28.380 Have you heard any good solutions?

01:11:30.080 How do we fix this?

01:11:32.120 Because we're really only playing to our own tribe.

01:11:34.460 If we can't if you're only hearing about it on Fox News, CBN, the Glenn Beck program, you're you're playing.

01:11:41.800 You're preaching to the choir.

01:11:43.840 Well, you know, it is an uphill battle, but I think we have to kind of remain steadfast.

01:11:49.100 And I think, you know, look, victory is for the bold.

01:11:52.420 So you have to fight.

01:11:54.280 And the good news is in this day and age with the technology, it's never been easier for somebody to create a message and get it out there.

01:12:02.200 Now, the flip side of that is because it's never been easier.

01:12:05.220 There's a proliferation of stories and film.

01:12:08.660 So it takes more to rise above and get noticed.

01:12:12.060 And that's where you do need the marketing.

01:12:14.260 But, you know, you can I will say this.

01:12:16.120 Facebook actually has been very even handed and fair with us.

01:12:19.440 And shut up.

01:12:20.280 Really?

01:12:20.560 Yeah, the page has been up for, you know, for months and we've had 17 million trailer views.

01:12:26.140 And I've had some friends say to me when I told them that the film was on on Facebook, they were like, oh, my God, how did you manage to keep that up?

01:12:33.120 So, you know, look, I don't know if we slip through the cracks, but, you know, when Ted Cruz has these hearings, when we continue to put pressure on, I think that's what we have to do.

01:12:42.880 And, again, I just think that we have to we have to not be afraid to push for what we want and make sure, you know, stories are told on both sides.

01:12:51.340 What are you going to do with the film now?

01:12:53.960 Well, it's out in theaters.

01:12:55.520 You know, we have an A-plus cinema score, which only a couple films receive every year.

01:12:59.620 That means people actually saw the movie, loved it.

01:13:02.600 And that people that I think span the ideological divide.

01:13:07.520 Hang on, hang on just a second on that.

01:13:09.000 Let me ask you this.

01:13:10.140 Did you at any time worry that this thing would be either a dirge or it would be one of those things where people would think, oh, geez, I should go see that movie, but I just don't want to go sit through an abortion movie.

01:13:24.420 I mean, you hit the right balance to where you actually feel good leaving the audience or leaving theater.

01:13:31.240 You know, it's an interesting question.

01:13:32.980 I don't know whether we considered that possibility.

01:13:35.460 I think the filmmakers just made the movie that they thought needed to be made, and they trusted that, you know, if they did it right, people would come, and they have.

01:13:45.520 So, you know, we opened in fourth place, defying all expectations, opening weekend.

01:13:50.280 We were in seventh place last weekend.

01:13:52.240 And now in our third weekend, we were in tenth place, yes, on Sunday.

01:13:57.020 And, you know, we're competing with big studio tentpoles like Shazam and Captain Marvel and Dumbo.

01:14:02.980 So, you know, the next step is going to be DVD and streaming, and we've had a lot of people approach us because they want to get those right.

01:14:11.000 So we're in the midst of discussing those deals now.

01:14:13.060 So hopefully, you know, the next three to four months we'll be out there on DVD and more people will have access.

01:14:18.440 Any idea of Netflix, Amazon?

01:14:21.220 Well, you know, we don't know.

01:14:22.460 We hope so.

01:14:23.820 I can't imagine why not.

01:14:25.340 We hope so.

01:14:26.280 You know, if they really represent all of America, you would think that they would want to have this movie on, and they would want to show both sides.

01:14:33.580 So we're optimistic, but, you know, if we get Stonewall, then I guess we'll pursue it ourselves.

01:14:38.940 If you get Stonewall, let me know, will you?

01:14:41.480 I absolutely will.

01:14:42.740 And, you know, the filmmakers are very grateful for your support, and you've been a real stalwart, so thank you.

01:14:48.100 No, not a problem.

01:14:48.900 Thank you very much, Steve.

01:14:49.840 Appreciate it.

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01:14:55.240 If you haven't seen it with your family, take them to see it this week.

01:14:59.800 It will be very impactful in a movie theater, much more so, and it was impactful just seeing it, you know, on the small screen.

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01:16:28.800 So, let me ask you, Stu.

01:16:30.800 Did you watch Game of Thrones last night?

01:16:32.580 I did.

01:16:33.000 I did my duty.

01:16:33.700 You did your duty.

01:16:34.500 First episode or moment I've ever watched of Game of Thrones last night.

01:16:37.960 What did you think?

01:16:39.340 I was very confused.

01:16:40.620 You're very confused.

01:16:41.180 Yes, I have some notes.

01:16:42.460 Okay, so here's Stu's review of Game of Thrones.

01:16:46.920 We have some good...

01:16:47.500 Oh, there we go.

01:16:48.120 Good Game of Thrones music.

01:16:48.980 Okay, first of all...

01:16:50.100 This is nothing like good Game of Thrones music.

01:16:52.280 No, this is about the level of my review here.

01:16:54.620 Okay, good, good, good, good.

01:16:56.180 The theme animation's really long.

01:16:58.560 Really long.

01:16:59.280 Yes, it is.

01:16:59.440 I believe it's still going from the episode I was watching.

01:17:01.680 Yes, yes, okay.

01:17:01.800 Not important to the storyline.

01:17:03.180 Okay, so I kind of came up with a cast of characters.

01:17:05.200 All right, good.

01:17:05.720 There's Blondie and White, you got Ugly or Black Hair Woman, you've got Guy with Goatee,

01:17:11.860 you've got Guy with Beard, you've got Angry Elf, Red Hair Woman, and the Boy Band Looking

01:17:18.000 Teen.

01:17:18.720 Okay.

01:17:18.980 Now, if I'm following it right...

01:17:20.300 I'm not sure.

01:17:21.160 The Boy Band Looking Teen is the son of the Goatee guy, maybe?

01:17:25.420 Not sure about that.

01:17:26.840 I think, I'm pretty sure that Winterfell is a place.

01:17:30.080 Yes.

01:17:30.640 Okay.

01:17:31.640 The Goatee guy may have been the king of Winterfell?

01:17:35.080 No.

01:17:35.440 Okay.

01:17:36.680 Well...

01:17:37.240 But he's not anymore.

01:17:38.280 He was, but then was not anymore.

01:17:41.220 Potentially.

01:17:41.540 Well, yes, yes.

01:17:42.420 Okay.

01:17:43.560 The North...

01:17:44.440 Can you stop this music?

01:17:45.620 This music is worse than...

01:17:47.220 This is worse than your review, which is...

01:17:49.300 This is rocking.

01:17:50.520 The North might be the same as Winterfell.

01:17:53.960 The same place, maybe?

01:17:55.180 The same area, yeah.

01:17:56.760 Winterfell is in the North.

01:17:58.140 Okay.

01:17:58.660 And by the way, spoiler alerts here, just in case we get into anything.

01:18:01.840 So far, you...

01:18:03.200 So far, I haven't really understood much.

01:18:04.960 Okay.

01:18:05.240 So...

01:18:05.720 So, my understanding now is that Angry Elf, Goatee, Blondie, and Redhead are all on the

01:18:10.960 same team?

01:18:12.100 Yes.

01:18:12.520 Okay.

01:18:12.760 Um...

01:18:13.720 Blondie seems to be like a Siegfried and Roy of Dragons.

01:18:18.260 Yes.

01:18:18.740 Okay.

01:18:19.200 All right.

01:18:19.640 Good, good, good.

01:18:20.460 Got it.

01:18:21.200 Angry Elf may have been married to Redhead?

01:18:24.180 Uh...

01:18:24.740 Yes.

01:18:25.400 Okay.

01:18:26.300 Um...

01:18:26.820 People seem a lot more attractive than I would expect from their difficult circumstances.

01:18:30.780 Yes.

01:18:31.280 Okay.

01:18:31.620 Yes.

01:18:32.100 All right.

01:18:32.920 Um...

01:18:33.440 Goatee and ugly peasant girl hug and they like the same sword?

01:18:38.320 Uh...

01:18:38.720 That happened at one point?

01:18:40.060 Yes, it's...

01:18:40.760 Yes.

01:18:41.280 Okay.

01:18:41.500 Um...

01:18:42.100 You've missed...

01:18:43.000 You've missed some of the nuance of that relationship.

01:18:47.200 Okay.

01:18:47.460 Okay.

01:18:47.980 Goatee guy and ugly girl like the same sword, I guess.

01:18:52.280 Yes.

01:18:52.680 Okay.

01:18:52.920 So, there's another queen.

01:18:54.280 She looks kind of like a female Mick Jagger.

01:18:56.800 Uh...

01:18:57.120 Maybe combined with Robin Wright.

01:18:59.500 You know who I'm talking about?

01:19:00.300 I...

01:19:00.580 Okay.

01:19:01.600 Maybe not.

01:19:01.980 All right.

01:19:02.240 Okay.

01:19:02.760 Uh...

01:19:03.240 Great line.

01:19:04.840 Uh...

01:19:05.280 Uh...

01:19:05.520 If I...

01:19:05.900 If you want a whore, buy one.

01:19:07.420 If you want a queen, earn one.

01:19:08.680 That's a great freaking line.

01:19:09.700 Yeah, that's a great line.

01:19:10.360 Is that the Mick Jagger looking?

01:19:11.480 That's a Mick Jagger lady.

01:19:12.180 Yeah.

01:19:12.420 Okay.

01:19:12.660 Yes.

01:19:12.860 Okay.

01:19:13.120 So, I'm right on that.

01:19:14.900 A guy is interrupted when having sex with three women, and he seems to be only moderately

01:19:19.040 upset about it.

01:19:20.240 Which I...

01:19:20.740 I feel like you'd...

01:19:22.080 You'd be a little...

01:19:22.800 You'd be a little more...

01:19:24.360 I zip past those, so I don't know.

01:19:25.760 Okay.

01:19:25.940 Okay.

01:19:26.160 That happened.

01:19:26.640 Um...

01:19:27.520 Let's see.

01:19:28.340 Uh...

01:19:28.820 Really impressive teeth for the era, I thought.

01:19:31.300 Yes.

01:19:31.960 Yes.

01:19:32.000 Was something.

01:19:33.180 Um...

01:19:33.660 Yes.

01:19:33.760 Some guy in a wheelchair, and the boy band guy looked back at each other at the end,

01:19:38.280 and that seemed important.

01:19:39.820 I don't know about that.

01:19:40.880 And then...

01:19:41.520 The boy...

01:19:41.760 I now know the boy band.

01:19:43.600 Okay.

01:19:43.660 And then, finally, I...

01:19:44.760 At one point, I did fall asleep, and I just woke up to someone being lit on fire while

01:19:49.500 alive.

01:19:50.060 Okay.

01:19:50.600 Screaming.

01:19:50.960 Well, I look for...

01:19:53.140 If you missed Game of Thrones, why even watch it?

01:19:56.220 I mean...

01:19:56.660 You got the whole thing right there.

01:19:57.880 You got the whole thing, and...

01:19:59.560 Oh, really?

01:20:00.300 You nailed it, Stu.

01:20:01.680 You nailed it.

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01:21:08.280 Did anybody see, I didn't, did anybody see the actual full Bernie Sanders thing on Fox

01:21:16.740 News?

01:21:17.060 I did not, but I give him credit for doing it.

01:21:19.000 I do too.

01:21:19.780 And I give credit to Fox for not being what everybody always says Fox is.

01:21:24.420 Yep.

01:21:24.600 They were fair and they asked tough questions.

01:21:26.220 Right.

01:21:26.360 And I mean, but it was a, I mean.

01:21:28.180 And not tough.

01:21:29.020 Wait, wait, wait.

01:21:29.640 And not the kind of questions that CNN would ask a conservative.

01:21:34.340 No.

01:21:34.880 CNN will ask a conservative.

01:21:36.360 So why do you want to, why do you want to stop women from having an abortion?

01:21:41.140 Do you just hate all women or is it just most women?

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01:21:50.840 In fact, I think they let him escape on a couple of things.

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01:24:07.800 Yeah, quickly, let's look at the final numbers for the fundraising for the quarter.

01:24:22.160 Do you have it?

01:24:23.020 Yeah, they're all out now.

01:24:24.940 So let's start from the bottom here.

01:24:27.120 Wayne Messam.

01:24:28.840 You might not know him.

01:24:29.960 He's running for president.

01:24:31.180 He's the mayor of Miramar, Florida.

01:24:34.480 He's not on the top tier, I wouldn't say.

01:24:36.480 Only thing out of the sentence that says, what's his name?

01:24:40.260 Say that sentence again.

01:24:41.340 Wayne Messam.

01:24:42.180 He's running for president.

01:24:43.300 He is the mayor of Miramar, Florida.

01:24:45.660 Not a top tier contender.

01:24:47.160 So the words that I understand in that sentence, president, running for, and Florida.

01:24:52.280 Everything else.

01:24:53.020 You know Wayne Newton.

01:24:54.200 Wayne.

01:24:54.860 Okay, good.

01:24:55.480 Wayne.

01:24:56.120 So he raised under $100,000.

01:24:58.620 So he was in last place.

01:25:00.760 Julian Castro.

01:25:03.080 Give me the big ones.

01:25:03.540 Julian Castro.

01:25:04.300 1.3 million.

01:25:05.320 Go up to, let's see, Tulsi Gabbard, 1.9.

01:25:08.780 Hickenlooper, 2 million.

01:25:10.020 Inslee, 2.3.

01:25:11.280 Andrew Yang, 2.4 million.

01:25:13.960 Gillibrand, 3 million.

01:25:15.120 Booker, 5 million.

01:25:16.440 Klobuchar, 5.2.

01:25:17.900 Elizabeth Warren, 6.

01:25:19.580 Buttigieg, 7.1.

01:25:21.880 Beto O'Rourke, or Bob Frank O'Rourke, 9.4 million.

01:25:26.780 Kamala Harris, 12 million.

01:25:28.280 Bernie Sanders, 18 million.

01:25:29.600 By the way, Donald Trump, 30 million.

01:25:32.440 In excess of 30 million.

01:25:33.720 And he didn't use very much last time.

01:25:36.160 No, he didn't.

01:25:36.900 This is a difference from 2016, where he was really running on a skeleton campaign.

01:25:40.960 I mean, all that talk was real.

01:25:42.300 This time he has a legit campaign with all the bells and whistles.

01:25:46.860 And I mean, it's going to be interesting to see this operation run with that sort of backing.

01:25:50.700 Now, Bernie Sanders on a town hall on Fox, which I applaud Bernie Sanders for being who he is and being willing to say when it was racist, apparently, to call people a socialist.

01:26:05.000 I guess I don't know how I would be racist by calling him a socialist, but it was racist at one point to point out that people were socialist.

01:26:14.200 He said he was a socialist anyway.

01:26:16.300 So I have respect for him of just being who he is.

01:26:20.040 Yes, I went and vacationed, you know, in Cuba, my honeymoon in the Soviet Union.

01:26:25.620 Who didn't do that?

01:26:27.160 Well, nobody.

01:26:27.960 But here he is in the town hall last night on tax breaks.

01:26:33.000 Listen to this.

01:26:34.000 Your taxes do show that you're a millionaire.

01:26:36.380 You did make a million in 2016, 2017.

01:26:38.560 You're right, the 561 in 2018.

01:26:41.060 But your marginal tax rate was 26 percent because of President Trump's tax cuts.

01:26:46.420 So why not say, you know, I'm leading this revolution.

01:26:49.140 I'm not going to take those.

01:26:53.660 Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

01:26:56.260 And then rewind it just a little bit so I can get that again.

01:26:59.200 You know, it's amazing.

01:27:00.780 He laughs.

01:27:01.380 He goes.

01:27:02.840 Why?

01:27:03.240 Why, Bernie?

01:27:04.180 If you believe that the government does the most good over charity and everything else,

01:27:11.660 you are saying we need to have more money into the government and higher taxes because of these millionaires and billionaires.

01:27:21.200 You are a millionaire.

01:27:23.820 Most people would claim that somebody who makes one point two million dollars is a millionaire.

01:27:31.320 So you're a millionaire.

01:27:32.980 You're one of the rich, the wealthiest one percent.

01:27:37.200 Is that not even beyond one percent?

01:27:40.080 One point three million.

01:27:41.240 I think that's in the.

01:27:42.540 Yeah, that would be like point.

01:27:44.580 Yeah, something like that.

01:27:46.780 So he's beyond the wealthiest one percent.

01:27:50.000 And he scoffs at paying taxes voluntarily.

01:27:54.640 This is something I don't understand from socialists.

01:27:57.820 To be in the top one percent of U.S.

01:27:59.580 Earners of family.

01:28:00.800 Family needs an income of four hundred and twenty one thousand nine hundred and twenty six dollars.

01:28:05.000 So family.

01:28:06.240 So what does an individual have to make one percent?

01:28:10.640 Let's see.

01:28:12.100 Average.

01:28:12.680 The average income.

01:28:13.800 The average income of the top one percent nationwide is one point three two million.

01:28:17.940 So he's an average one percenter.

01:28:20.000 OK, but he's a one percenter.

01:28:21.640 But you know what?

01:28:22.220 You know who's cracking down on him?

01:28:23.280 The high income one percenters.

01:28:25.180 That's who's cracking down on Bernie Sanders.

01:28:26.480 There's always someone.

01:28:27.700 Yeah.

01:28:28.000 There's always Bill Gates or something.

01:28:29.500 Somebody at the top.

01:28:30.360 Jeff Bezos is always cracking down on you.

01:28:32.280 So now listen to how he explains.

01:28:34.280 And this is this is really important for anybody who is thinking about socialism.

01:28:40.700 This is important for them to hear and you to point out and just say, OK, can you explain this?

01:28:47.040 He believes the government does good things.

01:28:50.960 He believes that health care should be taken care of, et cetera, et cetera.

01:28:54.980 And it's not perfect, but it never will be because it will always be government.

01:28:59.960 But if you believe that and you say, I'm leading this revolution, why isn't he taking everything over?

01:29:07.940 Let's even say two hundred and fifty thousand.

01:29:11.260 That's still a good life for him and his wife.

01:29:13.760 So well into the top ten percent.

01:29:15.140 Right.

01:29:15.940 So why doesn't he just take two hundred and fifty thousand and the rest of it just give it to the government?

01:29:22.740 Right.

01:29:22.940 I mean, you could say, what do they make in the Senate?

01:29:25.080 One one eighty seven, something like that.

01:29:26.760 It's less than two hundred thousand.

01:29:27.840 That's plenty, plenty for them to live on, though.

01:29:30.000 Right.

01:29:30.420 So you take that and all your book, your book earnings go to not the charity, not charity, but the government.

01:29:37.880 Right.

01:29:38.100 Because, you know, people are wrecking Bernie over his very paltry.

01:29:42.440 Well, he gets into that.

01:29:43.380 And I want to I want to play that, too.

01:29:45.000 But the first part is, why not give it to the government?

01:29:47.840 And their excuse will be, well, because the government is inefficient.

01:29:52.420 Yeah.

01:29:53.080 OK.

01:29:53.540 Yes.

01:29:53.660 Welcome to the conservative.

01:29:55.220 Yes.

01:29:55.640 Thank you, Cher.

01:29:57.680 However, they'll say, well, it just has to be done right.

01:30:01.100 OK.

01:30:01.400 So then why not give that to charity, any kind of charity, anything that he says he cares about education, college education?

01:30:10.660 Why didn't he put how many people through college last year with just that extra money?

01:30:17.140 Now, listen to his response.

01:30:19.040 Take those because people don't during the I am.

01:30:26.960 I paid the taxes that I owe.

01:30:29.180 And by the way, stop.

01:30:30.220 Why don't you stop?

01:30:31.400 He pays the taxes that he owes.

01:30:34.380 This is the problem with progressivism and socialism.

01:30:38.040 It goes against human nature.

01:30:41.160 People are laughing because they know no one pays more than they have to.

01:30:47.340 So when he goes, he's saying human nature is you don't pay more than you have to.

01:30:55.040 Why would I?

01:30:56.540 And everybody thinks it's a funny question to even ask him.

01:31:00.120 It's so obvious and it's so obviously true.

01:31:02.640 It is so ingrained in human nature that you would never, ever do that.

01:31:08.880 But he goes back and says, I paid what I was supposed to pay.

01:31:12.760 Well, that's not what a leader does.

01:31:14.180 That's not what a leader does.

01:31:17.700 That's Donald Trump's answer.

01:31:20.500 When they ask Donald Trump, you know, hey, well, your your tax records, blah, blah, blah.

01:31:26.320 He says, I paid what I was supposed to.

01:31:29.500 And yeah, I did get breaks here and there.

01:31:31.560 I used the system.

01:31:33.580 Right.

01:31:34.080 And but that's consistent with the with Donald Trump's ideology.

01:31:36.740 Exactly right.

01:31:37.760 Less taxes.

01:31:38.620 Right.

01:31:38.940 He believes in smaller taxes.

01:31:40.740 Yes.

01:31:41.340 So if you're offended by Donald Trump saying I pay as little as I possibly can, I work the system.

01:31:48.260 OK, as long as it's within the law.

01:31:50.580 Fine.

01:31:51.780 That's good.

01:31:52.400 That's what you're supposed to do.

01:31:53.880 You work the system and pay as little as you possibly can within the law.

01:31:59.900 This is what Bernie Sanders is saying.

01:32:02.980 But at the same time, he'll call Donald Trump.

01:32:07.900 An evil rich guy who doesn't want to pay his fair share.

01:32:12.760 I thought it was your patriotic duty.

01:32:15.420 Why would you scoff at patriotic duty?

01:32:18.380 Play on.

01:32:19.200 Why don't you got Donald Trump up here and ask him how much he pays in taxes?

01:32:23.880 Wow, that was that was a great point.

01:32:27.900 So he says, I paid what I was supposed to pay.

01:32:31.860 Why don't you get Donald Trump up here?

01:32:33.680 Well, that's what he said throughout the entire campaign.

01:32:35.580 He pays what he has to.

01:32:37.000 I mean, that's that we would say the same thing you did, which is, you know, revealing about you.

01:32:41.380 Because, again, for Donald Trump, it's consistent with his ideology.

01:32:44.040 Yes, it's not consistent with the ideology of Bernie Sanders to not give money to the government.

01:32:49.080 Now, he also says that and it was right after this.

01:32:52.780 They say you gave three point two percent to charity last year.

01:32:58.340 And he's proud of that.

01:33:00.300 Yes, I did.

01:33:01.200 My wife and I, we love giving to charity.

01:33:03.960 Three point two percent.

01:33:06.960 Three point two percent.

01:33:09.560 That's what you gave.

01:33:11.380 I consider that to be consistent with Bernie Sanders ideology.

01:33:15.920 His position is that the government's supposed to do everything.

01:33:19.120 So why is he giving to charity?

01:33:20.200 Joe Biden never gave anything to charity.

01:33:21.940 But if you're not giving to the government.

01:33:24.120 Right.

01:33:24.420 You got to also just give to the government instead.

01:33:26.360 I mean, people have to do their fair share.

01:33:28.060 Right.

01:33:28.460 So if you're not giving to the government, then you should be giving to a charity unless you think, hey, 26 percent of my income for the federal government is more than enough.

01:33:43.220 If I'm paying what I'm supposed to pay to the government, and that's more than enough.

01:33:48.360 But then how can you be for higher taxes?

01:33:50.740 Right.

01:33:50.920 I mean, like, let's Bernie Sanders has an opportunity to actually implement his plan with at least himself.

01:33:58.680 He can pay 52 percent income tax himself.

01:34:01.820 He can do it.

01:34:02.780 He could just do it.

01:34:03.480 Now, my idea of what I should be paying, I can't implement myself because I want to pay zero.

01:34:09.340 So I can't do that.

01:34:10.340 They won't let me do that.

01:34:11.360 But they will let Bernie pay 52 percent.

01:34:13.900 Why wouldn't he enact that?

01:34:15.100 I would be happy to do it.

01:34:16.180 I would pay.

01:34:16.620 I would pay.

01:34:17.220 Honestly, if you could set it, you wouldn't set it at zero.

01:34:19.780 I would set it at zero.

01:34:20.620 Yes.

01:34:20.960 You'd set it at zero.

01:34:21.820 I would.

01:34:22.160 There's plenty of other tax revenue coming in from other sources, and I would not tax income.

01:34:26.440 It's a terrible thing to tax.

01:34:27.860 You're discouraging work.

01:34:29.460 You're discouraging productivity.

01:34:30.800 All right.

01:34:31.520 So, but you'd have to have massive changes on that.

01:34:34.480 You'd have to have massive changes as far as cost goes, the cost of the government.

01:34:38.060 Yes.

01:34:38.280 I mean, I think that is about, it's about 12 or 13 years if I'm off, I'm off by a little

01:34:43.000 bit.

01:34:43.200 But if you were to zero out the income tax for people, you would have to roll back to the

01:34:47.860 spending of about 12 or 13 years ago.

01:34:50.260 So you'd go back to, you know, late Bush administration level spending.

01:34:54.240 You don't think we can do that?

01:34:55.360 Really?

01:34:55.780 Yes, we could.

01:34:56.080 You don't think we can handle that?

01:34:56.960 We can't run this country on late Bush administration spending?

01:34:59.500 Yes, we could.

01:35:00.020 You could.

01:35:01.340 So I would tax it at zero.

01:35:03.560 And even if you were going to go with something else.

01:35:05.740 I was thinking just, you know, the studies always show that it's somewhere between 15

01:35:10.620 and 19 percent is what comes in anyway, is what comes in no matter what you do.

01:35:15.760 So taxing a flat 16 percent, you know, there's nothing wrong as long as you're not raising

01:35:21.400 all the other taxes, just 15 percent or 16 percent, something like that.

01:35:26.020 I don't mind paying, you know, the the an income tax to be able to further the things,

01:35:35.380 the structure that we need to further.

01:35:37.120 I think what you mean to say here, if I may put words in your mouth, is you don't mind

01:35:40.700 paying a tax to to to support the government?

01:35:45.360 Right.

01:35:45.540 And we have defense needs.

01:35:46.620 Right.

01:35:46.720 We all understand that.

01:35:47.880 But we have plenty of money to pay for all the things the Constitution wants the government

01:35:51.200 to do without an income tax.

01:35:53.300 We didn't have an income tax for most of our history.

01:35:55.100 I absolutely I would love to see Republicans get on board with repealing the 16th Amendment.

01:35:59.680 I would to going for it.

01:36:01.460 You know, there's all these wussy rules.

01:36:03.300 They're like, oh, well, let's cut the rate by point three percent.

01:36:06.480 Like, how about going for it here?

01:36:08.280 The government has plenty of money.

01:36:10.180 And it also is one of those things where you have to cut spending, obviously, or we

01:36:13.300 would go into insane debt in that scenario.

01:36:15.020 But I would I would love that.

01:36:16.120 I would go to zero.

01:36:16.640 I want to I want to bring that back up and play something from a Democratic nominee that

01:36:22.880 he said yesterday it was Buttigieg.

01:36:25.940 And he said something that I thought, hmm, no, you're stating this incorrectly.

01:36:31.520 And it goes right to what you just said about the Republican.

01:36:35.560 You'd love to see them go after the 16th Amendment as part of their agenda.

01:36:39.860 Here we go.

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01:37:40.840 I want to play a yesterday, Buttigieg, on what most Americans don't want.

01:37:58.840 Listen to this.

01:38:00.160 The Republicans in the Senate changed the number of justices on the Supreme Court.

01:38:04.360 They changed it to eight until they took power.

01:38:06.700 And then they changed it back to nine.

01:38:08.060 So, you know, a lot of what we're talking about is no less a shattering of norms than

01:38:12.240 what the other side has done.

01:38:13.440 But we're proposing to do it in a way that is more inclusive, I would say more constitutionally

01:38:18.900 sound, more appropriate, and will just, by the nature of the checks and balances in

01:38:23.140 our system, have to go through a very thoughtful and rigorous process.

01:38:26.860 I think that if they try tinkering with the system, again, they're already doing it under

01:38:31.180 the table in so many ways.

01:38:32.460 But if they try doing it more nakedly, they're going to encounter resistance because most

01:38:36.920 Americans don't want this.

01:38:38.460 Most Americans don't want the conservative agenda that we're now seeing, the extreme

01:38:42.820 agenda.

01:38:43.980 Okay.

01:38:44.600 First of all, I find it amazing as a guy who says, let's count all the votes.

01:38:48.900 If they start tinkering around the edges, they're not tinkering around the edges.

01:38:52.960 This guy is talking about getting rid of the electoral college, which is fundamental in our

01:38:59.840 system of government, absolute fundamentals.

01:39:03.140 So they're not tinkering around around the edges.

01:39:06.480 They're going right to the heart of it.

01:39:08.540 So it's a little hard to swallow this from Buttigieg.

01:39:12.620 Now, here's what I found interesting.

01:39:14.980 He said, most people don't want the extreme conservative agenda.

01:39:22.920 Can somebody tell me what that agenda is?

01:39:25.200 I know exactly what the Democratic agenda is.

01:39:30.620 I know what it is.

01:39:31.840 Socialism, high taxes, huge government, government welfare, government health care, even to the

01:39:41.720 extreme of the end of the free market.

01:39:45.200 Can you tell me what the Republican agenda is?

01:39:47.840 You know, build the wall-ish.

01:39:53.040 I mean, like, obviously, when they've had the opportunity to build the wall, they haven't

01:39:55.780 done it.

01:39:56.300 They had control for two years, and we're not able to do that.

01:39:59.480 But I would say that that seems to be a priority of the president and seems to be a priority

01:40:03.420 of at least border security in some capacity.

01:40:07.540 I mean, I think you'd say...

01:40:12.540 Don't go for the Trump agenda, because that would be like the Buttigieg agenda.

01:40:18.300 Right.

01:40:18.780 What's the conservative Republican agenda?

01:40:23.100 Well, I think right now it's whatever Trump says.

01:40:25.900 I don't think that there's a separation at this point.

01:40:28.540 The Republican Party is a mechanism designed for good, and it's been good in a lot of ways.

01:40:35.000 But it's designed specifically to support Trump's policies.

01:40:39.120 I mean, I...

01:40:39.660 It's always been that way, the president's policies.

01:40:41.280 I think, generally speaking, it's been true.

01:40:42.780 They have not come through, in many cases, by the way, for President Trump.

01:40:46.640 I mean, I think on Obamacare, probably most clearly, when they could have easily done

01:40:50.460 that and didn't.

01:40:51.280 So it's not...

01:40:51.740 This is not a criticism of Trump.

01:40:54.140 It's just that they don't...

01:40:54.980 There's no...

01:40:56.120 There does not seem to be any room for anyone to speak up, with the exception occasionally

01:41:01.520 of foreign affairs issues.

01:41:03.660 I would say that they spoke up pretty loudly on Syria.

01:41:08.680 They were...

01:41:09.660 You know, they've opposed some of the foreign affairs stuff.

01:41:12.200 But I mean, other than that, there doesn't seem to be much of an agenda at all, separate

01:41:15.040 from the president.

01:41:15.940 And some of those things, like the judges, you know, that I would say that that's a priority.

01:41:20.280 The border is a priority.

01:41:22.160 But there's not a lot of dreaming going on.

01:41:24.100 The tax cut's a perfect example of this.

01:41:25.960 I mean, I'm talking about repealing the 16th Amendment.

01:41:27.520 You know, Ted Cruz's campaign policy was a 10% flat tax.

01:41:33.240 Donald Trump's campaign policy was far more aggressive than what they actually ran through

01:41:38.340 Congress.

01:41:39.480 And, you know, the congressional one, like, with the...

01:41:41.340 You know, there was a decent cut in the corporate tax.

01:41:44.080 And everything else was something that Jeb Bush could have pushed through.

01:41:48.380 And so, as far as an agenda goes, I don't know.

01:41:51.060 I feel like they're just fighting these battles day to day.

01:41:53.180 What's in the news today?

01:41:54.060 They just go, oh, we're on the other side of them.

01:41:55.880 They are.

01:41:56.480 Donald Trump, since the Miller report has come out, has moved to offense.

01:42:00.300 Yes.

01:42:00.880 The Republicans, I don't know if they're offense or defense.

01:42:05.400 I think they're on the bench the entire time.

01:42:07.860 I don't know what their agenda is.

01:42:09.780 No one has really articulated what the party really stands for and what we're trying to achieve.

01:42:17.720 I know what the Democrats are trying to achieve.

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01:43:48.760 You know what's amazing to me is the University of North Carolina, Duke, UNC, is the place that was on fire because it was racist.

01:44:06.400 Except it wasn't.

01:44:08.220 But the press covered it like crazy without any facts.

01:44:11.980 Once the facts came out, oh, uh, next, now Duke, University of North Carolina, is having another problem.

01:44:22.940 Except this time, no one's paying attention to it.

01:44:26.520 Except Ami Horowitz, a friend of the program and documentary filmmaker.

01:44:32.340 Ami, welcome to the program.

01:44:34.800 Always a pleasure, Glenn.

01:44:36.120 So, what is happening at Duke?

01:44:39.940 Look, uh, let me, let me back up, kind of explain, kind of genesis of what happened.

01:44:46.540 I was, uh, sitting on Bondi Beach in Australia, and I was just scrolling through, uh, through the internet, and I saw there's this conference, joint conference between Duke and UNC, ostensibly about, uh, the conflict in Gaza.

01:44:59.900 So, immediately I knew, okay, this is clearly going to be an Israel hate fest.

01:45:04.100 So, I went there to kind of cover it to see kind of how anti-Israel it was, was it going to be balanced at all.

01:45:09.080 What I didn't expect to find was absolute and egregious open anti-Semitism throughout this conference, right?

01:45:18.520 And I can't understate how big this conference was.

01:45:22.920 It's a joint conference between Duke and UNC, two of the most prestigious schools in the country.

01:45:28.020 Every major department and school sponsored, the School of Law, the School of Medicine, the School of Pharmacy, the Department, every single department and school sponsored it.

01:45:40.060 And it also got a quarter of a million dollar grant from the U.S. government.

01:45:44.560 Oh my gosh.

01:45:46.080 For what?

01:45:47.480 For what?

01:45:48.940 For anti-Semitism.

01:45:49.840 For anti-Semitism, Glenn, I don't mean the anti-Semitism of, hey, you know, I hate Israel, so therefore I'm an anti-Semite, right?

01:45:57.780 That's, that's one thing.

01:45:59.100 And by the way, just, just to be clear, if you hate Israel at the exclusion of other, quote unquote, bad actors, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, by the way, just so you know, you're an anti-Semite.

01:46:08.400 But let's not have that debate or argument.

01:46:11.260 I'm talking about, I was, I went to the conference and I started asking students and administrators and professors a simple question.

01:46:18.900 I said, does Jewish money control the U.S. government?

01:46:23.140 I probably talked to 40 or 50 students.

01:46:26.120 And with the exception of two, and I know that number because I, it was only two.

01:46:30.160 Everybody else said, of course, Jewish money controls the U.S. government.

01:46:33.360 They call it controlled decisions around the world, a basic damage, one of the most damaging anti-Semitic tropes you could imagine, if it only stopped there, Glenn.

01:46:43.800 Because the next thing that happened is they had the main entertainment for the evening, right, that they flew in from Israel with a Palestinian-Israeli rapper, Israeli-Arab, but they call themselves, you know, Palestinian-Arabs now, Palestinian-Israelis now.

01:46:58.960 So, he starts, he gets up there and he proclaims to this packed auditorium, packed, he says, this is my anti-Semitic song.

01:47:08.280 I'm thinking, okay, I don't know, maybe he's joking, what the hell is he talking about?

01:47:11.400 And then he starts to rap, this horrific rap, and he continues to egg the audience on by saying, guys, you're not being anti-Semitic enough, let's bring it up to a 10, let's take it up to Mel Gibson-Level's anti-Semitism.

01:47:22.540 And the crowd is going wild. They're singing and cheering him along the song, and he ends this thing with, guys, you guys are beautifully anti-Semitic, thank you for not letting me be anti-Semitic alone.

01:47:34.660 Okay? And the whole while, the head of the, the guy who brought the conference to put the conference together, the guy who works for UNC, a professor there, an administrator there, he's sitting there smiling the entire time.

01:47:45.560 Glenn, it was one of the most egregious, disgusting events I have ever witnessed in my life, and you know, I've seen some bad stuff.

01:47:51.400 Okay, I'm going to play the audio. This is part of the audio in the video that you captured at Duke-UNC.

01:48:00.660 I'm Ami Horowitz, and I'm here on the campus of the University of North Carolina, where UNC and Duke are holding a joint conference on the conflict in Gaza.

01:48:09.820 So I came here to get a sense of the perspectives of the people attending the conference.

01:48:14.040 This was a major conference with hundreds of students, professors, and administrators who spent a weekend bashing Israel and whitewashing the terrorist organization, Hamas.

01:48:23.600 If it only stopped there.

01:48:25.440 This is a professor who I asked about her views on the spate of attacks in New York by black teens on Jews and synagogues.

01:48:33.980 Blacks have a lot of, also, reason to be angry at Jews now.

01:48:39.140 The conference wouldn't allow me to film inside, so my sound guy set me up with a hidden mic.

01:48:44.400 With very little prodding, the veneer of being anti-Israel in an effort to hide their hatred of Jews was easily scratched away and devolved into open anti-Semitism.

01:48:53.300 I first asked them about the most powerful modern anti-Semitic trope.

01:48:57.920 Does Jewish money control U.S. government policy?

01:49:01.520 U.S. government policy? Oh, absolutely. Not you guys. Jewish lobbies are very rich.

01:49:06.720 The Jewish lobby is influencing our government and how that's changing U.S. policy.

01:49:13.200 That's my mind.

01:49:14.020 This is directly known for everyone.

01:49:16.540 With you on that one.

01:49:18.000 They're influencing our politics.

01:49:20.480 You know, the money rules the world.

01:49:23.360 Yeah.

01:49:23.720 No, meaning, like, makes the decision.

01:49:26.140 I appreciate your courage.

01:49:27.620 Oh, this is interesting what you are doing, right?

01:49:29.620 Yeah, yeah.

01:49:30.460 Impressive.

01:49:31.360 I'm Jewish.

01:49:32.560 I don't know.

01:49:32.920 Yeah, I could already tell. You didn't have to tell me.

01:49:35.420 I don't take offense to that at all.

01:49:37.640 No, no. I mean, I appreciate people who are questioning their own background.

01:49:42.880 Look at the treatment of Ethiopian Jews, right?

01:49:44.660 Jews that are supposedly in the club, but they're Ethiopian. They're black.

01:49:48.580 Refugees who come to Israel, assuming it's a Jewish state, have actually been sterilized in the past.

01:49:53.740 You're telling me that the Jewish government sterilized Ethiopian Jews coming into Israel?

01:50:00.020 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:50:00.640 That's crazy.

01:50:01.320 And then, the featured entertainment for the event came on stage.

01:50:05.880 He proceeded to, well, let's let the video do the talking.

01:50:09.060 Antisemism. Yeah, okay.

01:50:11.180 This is my anti-Semitic song.

01:50:12.640 I know it sounds R&B stuff, but don't think of Rihanna when you sing it.

01:50:18.800 Think of, don't think of Beyonce. Think of Mel Gibson.

01:50:23.360 Oh, my God.

01:50:23.940 Yeah, go there and anti-Semitic.

01:50:27.480 Let's try it together, because I need your help.

01:50:29.380 I cannot be anti-Semitic alone.

01:50:30.700 Oh, I'm in love with you.

01:50:36.160 Oh, I'm in love with you.

01:50:39.280 Oh, I'm in love with you.

01:50:42.720 I'm in love with you.

01:50:44.600 You look beautiful, you anti-Semitic.

01:50:46.260 This is crazy.

01:50:52.420 I'm going to have to ask you to leave.

01:50:55.300 Why?

01:50:56.280 The director does not want you to be conducting, so I'm going to have to ask you to leave.

01:51:01.820 I'm going to have to ask you to leave.

01:51:03.180 You don't want to have to call the police.

01:51:04.980 Are we causing trouble?

01:51:06.420 We don't understand what your intentions are.

01:51:08.700 We're still asking you to leave the premises, sir.

01:51:10.720 Just days after the conference, swastikas were found on campus.

01:51:15.720 38 of the largest departments and schools at the University of North Carolina sponsored this event.

01:51:21.640 It also got a federal grant of nearly a quarter of a million dollars.

01:51:26.240 They should all be ashamed.

01:51:27.840 Wow.

01:51:29.120 Ami, that is crazy.

01:51:32.880 How, I mean, as somebody who knows history, and you being Jewish, you know this history, were you afraid?

01:51:46.860 I mean, was this like, was this something that goes right to the center of your being of, oh, my gosh, here it is again?

01:51:57.100 It goes right to my core.

01:51:58.560 Look, as you were alluding to, Jewish history is replete with pogroms, massacres that have occurred because of events like this, honestly.

01:52:11.720 Now, I'm not saying this is going to lead to a pogrom, although it did lead to a, you know, when I released that video, there was that one, I mentioned the incident where they were printing swastikas in some dormitories.

01:52:24.360 But in the days that followed the release of the video, this actually has increased, and there were anti-Semitic posters put up in the library.

01:52:32.420 But these are the kind of events that lead to significant problems for Jews.

01:52:38.720 And what's so important to point out here is this did not happen.

01:52:42.720 I know this is obvious, but I think it bears repeating.

01:52:45.460 This did not happen in some kind of Ku Klux Klan rally that happened to have caught, right?

01:52:50.140 This is at one of our, two of our most prestigious universities in this country.

01:52:53.480 And, you know, we're used to the usual suspects of anti-Semitism coming from neo-Nazis, radical Islamists, right?

01:53:00.900 We all know that.

01:53:01.780 I've reported on it, right?

01:53:03.060 That's clear.

01:53:04.540 But what we're seeing, and this is not a trend that's, by the way, happened the last two years.

01:53:08.400 It's over a 10-year trend.

01:53:09.880 We're seeing that this is coming from the left, okay, from the alt-left, if you will.

01:53:15.340 And we're not just seeing it in the halls of academia.

01:53:18.800 We're seeing it in the halls of Congress.

01:53:20.320 You don't think Rashid Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, they're not partly responsible for this?

01:53:26.880 Of course.

01:53:27.740 They're allowing this.

01:53:28.700 You know, I love when they blame the president for allowing coarseness to our dialogue, okay?

01:53:34.120 This is nothing compared to what we're hearing from the halls of Congress.

01:53:38.040 And now we're seeing the halls of academia.

01:53:39.660 And, yes, this is something that troubles me to my core, Glenn.

01:53:42.320 I mean, you know, one of the reasons why we didn't stop the Holocaust is, in my opinion, FDR was a racist and a bigot in many ways.

01:54:00.800 He was with the Japanese, and he was with Jews.

01:54:03.000 And Morgenthau tried to talk to the president about it, but FDR's response was always the same.

01:54:11.940 And it was the same in Europe and in Germany.

01:54:14.800 And I heard it on that tape, and it chilled my blood.

01:54:18.720 Well, these fill-in-the-blank on the videotape, it was blacks, have a lot of reasons to be angry at the Jews.

01:54:28.840 That is exactly what was said in Germany, then Europe, and in our own White House when we did nothing.

01:54:37.200 Well, they brought it upon themselves.

01:54:39.260 You know, they got greedy, and they might start talking about the bankers.

01:54:45.180 That's a ruse.

01:54:48.420 They mean all Jews.

01:54:49.960 They mean all Jews.

01:54:52.360 Hami, I pray that people will wake up, and I thank you so much for your bravery.

01:54:59.460 God bless you.

01:55:00.300 It's always my pleasure.

01:55:01.220 Thank you, Glenn.

01:55:02.660 Hami Horowitz from Hami, A-M-I, Horowitz.com, HamiHorowitz.com.

01:55:07.440 You can help finance his documentaries and his truth-telling.

01:55:13.300 He goes out, and he is a brave, brave guy.

01:55:19.440 And, boy, after looking at that, things are going to become more dangerous as the days go on.

01:55:35.620 Yesterday may have been a blessing.

01:55:37.160 It may have been a blessing because it was an example of what's happening to us.

01:55:49.980 Our faith is burning down to the ground.

01:55:51.880 Our culture is burning down to the ground.

01:55:54.440 It may have been a blessing because, as we think so far, and I believe this, that it was just an accident from the construction.

01:56:02.860 And that may have been a blessing because if it would have been Islamic terror, it would have absolutely set the entire continent on fire.

01:56:12.540 We would probably be talking about more troops and more bad things today in Europe had that been an Islamic extremist that did that.

01:56:23.780 But it is also a blessing because, hopefully, it will wake even a handful of people up to what is coming.

01:56:33.980 Turn back to God.

01:56:36.980 Turn back to God.

01:56:39.680 Evil is growing in strength.

01:56:43.060 And God's people are asleep.

01:56:45.980 Turn back to God and beg his forgiveness, and he will heal our land.

01:56:58.480 All right.

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01:58:22.600 So you're just going to go the whole show then?

01:58:24.400 That's the plan, I guess.

01:58:26.640 That's the plan.

01:58:27.980 Yes, the plan was to do the whole show today.

01:58:30.080 No, I'm saying doing the whole show without mentioning your hateful comments.

01:58:34.300 What?

01:58:34.860 I mean, this is so typical of you.

01:58:36.520 Just avoid it the whole time.

01:58:37.680 I'm not going to let you get away with it.

01:58:38.920 I let you get away with it for two hours and 50 minutes.

01:58:41.940 Okay, what was my hateful comment today?

01:58:42.820 You are trending nationally right now.

01:58:44.880 What?

01:58:45.040 And they've got you this time.

01:58:46.180 Oh, do they?

01:58:46.560 They got you this time.

01:58:47.820 You're dead.

01:58:48.480 What did I say?

01:58:49.320 You said, Glenn Beck compares Notre Dame fire to 9-11.

01:58:53.280 This is their World Trade Center.

01:58:56.900 That's not the same at all.

01:58:58.420 First of all, it was two buildings at the World Trade Center, not one.

01:59:02.340 That's number one.

01:59:03.280 Number two, I don't know if you know this, Islamic extremists did the whole 9-11 thing, and then

01:59:07.500 here you are.

01:59:08.040 I guess you think that's what happened here in Notre Dame?

01:59:10.300 Oh, good God.

01:59:10.620 I started the show with debunking that.

01:59:12.880 We started the show with debunking that.

01:59:14.920 Sure.

01:59:16.000 Yeah, so you got that.

01:59:16.760 But what if you're on the internet to hear it?

01:59:17.580 Here's what I said.

01:59:18.800 I'm really trending nationally on this?

01:59:21.380 Yes.

01:59:21.900 This is insane.

01:59:22.880 Amazing.

01:59:23.100 Here's what I said.

01:59:24.080 It was their 9-11.

01:59:26.800 We, when I watched this, I even said on the air today, did any, maybe it was just me,

01:59:31.460 did anybody feel the same way?

01:59:33.560 When I watched that tower, that spire fall yesterday in the flame and the smoke, I had

01:59:39.580 the same feeling I had on 9-11.

01:59:43.460 And this was theirs.

01:59:44.620 They're watching this icon.

01:59:47.080 As someone who doesn't enter this moment despising you, it just, to me, you said it's two iconic

01:59:53.380 buildings collapsing in fire.

01:59:55.080 Yes.

01:59:55.180 That's like, that's what I got out of that.

01:59:56.340 Yes.

01:59:56.740 Yes.

01:59:57.260 That's what I got.

01:59:58.040 They're trying to read something else into it, I guess.

02:00:00.260 No, no.

02:00:00.820 Wait.

02:00:01.020 We wait for the facts.

02:00:02.720 So far, it looks like it was construction.

02:00:06.640 I'm, you know, 90, 99% there.

02:00:09.880 I want to see the evidence.

02:00:10.940 Yeah, they haven't released the final cause.

02:00:12.360 They haven't released the final cause.

02:00:13.680 I'm believing, I'm taking them at their word.

02:00:16.260 Right.

02:00:17.100 As we should do.

02:00:18.760 I'm mourning.

02:00:19.920 I'm not angry about this fire.

02:00:21.940 I'm mourning this fire.

02:00:23.880 In fact, if anything, in some ways, it was a wake-up call.

02:00:27.760 Use it for goodness.

02:00:29.660 Use it as a wake-up call.

02:00:32.060 Oh, social media is just a joke.

02:00:36.660 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

The Glenn Beck Program - April 16, 2019

Gut Feelings Revisited？｜ Guests： Steve Katz & Ami Horowitz ｜ 4⧸16⧸19

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