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00:02:39.520 hello america wow is it going to be a busy day on planet earth today there are

00:02:51.400 are so many i think this is the is the uh the craziest day i have seen uh maybe in my broadcast

00:03:01.180 career there are so many huge things that are revolving around probably about a four-hour

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00:04:15.360 slash glenn okay so i don't i don't know where to begin there's so much i mean we do we could

00:04:23.460 start with eric swalwell you know and uh the the new song don't bang bang fang fang uh but i mean

00:04:33.020 we could i guess we could start there uh sarah do you have it you know let's not start there

00:04:52.520 let's not start there we can we can we can wait on that because there are more pressing issues here

00:04:56.480 um although it is a catchy number you'll never get it out of your head

00:05:00.560 Anyway, today we have the rocket launch.

00:05:05.020 This is the first time since the early 1970s man is going back to the moon.

00:05:10.660 We are going further into deep space than man has ever gone today.

00:05:16.020 It's a pretty big deal.

00:05:17.900 Artemis 2.

00:05:19.660 The Apollo was, can we go up there?

00:05:22.620 Artemis is all about, can we live there?

00:05:27.180 And today we're going up to the moon.

00:05:29.180 The president was supposed to be at the moon launch.

00:05:31.080 I don't think he's going to be at the moon launch, the rocket launch tonight.

00:05:35.300 Why?

00:05:36.040 Because he's holding a presidential address.

00:05:39.320 Back up.

00:05:40.220 Before that, before the moon launch and before the presidential address, he's attending, for the very first time, a president is attending a Supreme Court hearing.

00:05:52.640 And it is the first time, I believe it is the first time a president has attended one of these.

00:05:59.180 But it's very, very rare.

00:06:02.800 And he's attending on birthright citizenship.

00:06:07.440 Just that alone that the Supreme Court is hearing birthright citizenship is a big deal.

00:06:11.880 The president going to be there to listen to the argument, that also is a big deal.

00:06:16.980 Just that alone is a showstopper.

00:06:19.000 Then tonight at 9 o'clock, a major speech on the Iraq war, 9 p.m.

00:06:24.420 A couple of things about that.

00:06:26.320 That's about an hour after Passover begins.

00:06:28.700 So he's going to be giving a speech about a war in Iraq with Israel, and he's giving it when Passover has already done.

00:06:38.860 There's something big happening in tonight's speech, okay?

00:06:42.980 Because yesterday he was talking about ending NATO.

00:06:46.420 Get your own oil is what he said.

00:06:48.620 England and the Aussies have already had their prime minister give an address to their people, and they are saying a major disruption on oil is coming.

00:06:57.380 this is going to be tough we got to be prepared for it the eu has said the same thing that's the

00:07:03.680 world is on edge tonight i don't know what he's going to talk about tonight but you'll have about

00:07:08.820 an hour maybe maybe a half an hour could be two hours to enjoy the space flight and go wow that's

00:07:14.520 really cool look we can do and then right into the speech um then he had the executive order on

00:07:20.840 mail-in ballots yesterday. The judges went crazy. I mean, it is nuts. Today is a really

00:07:27.420 consequential day in history. But can we just start with a positive? No, no, no, not the bang

00:07:36.840 bang with fang fang. Not yet. Not yet. Let's start with a positive. Tonight, we as people are going

00:07:43.320 to be given something really, really rare, something almost out of time. We're going to

00:07:48.420 be given a light and one that rises. It's going to cut through the darkness. It is a wonder of

00:07:54.800 the world to see, and it's going to remind the world that America is still capable of astonishing

00:08:01.920 things. That's what the launch tonight, Artemis II, is about. A flame that is going to lift off

00:08:08.580 the earth, carve its way into the heavens for a day, just circle the earth, and then hit the

00:08:15.800 rocket again and millions will stop they will look maybe you know maybe for the first time a

00:08:22.200 lot of them will be not looking down at their phones but up not sideways at each other but up

00:08:26.860 and when we have this rare moment whether we realize it or not when we're looking up we're

00:08:36.720 looking at hope i think this is a miracle and not not a miracle that was given to us this one

00:08:45.000 This one was built. This one was forged. This one was calculated down to the smallest fraction by thousands of men and women all over America who will never, ever be known by name. Engineers and welders and programmers and mathematicians, each one of them doing their small part, every single one of them not capable of pulling off the mission alone.

00:09:08.320 But together, together, they can bend reality just enough to make the impossible happen.

00:09:19.140 Wow.

00:09:22.760 We've been here before.

00:09:24.500 We walked this road when Apollo 11, the moon landing, carried men to the surface of the moon.

00:09:30.540 I was five.

00:09:33.440 I don't remember it.

00:09:34.940 Not really.

00:09:35.520 I mean, I remember, I think the echoes of it, it might just be the movies, I don't know.

00:09:40.600 But I think I remember that something extraordinary that has just happened.

00:09:49.820 I interpret it now as the horizon not being a limit, but an invitation.

00:09:56.820 And then we stopped.

00:09:59.700 We stopped, I think we got bored.

00:10:02.260 We turned inward, we got comfortable.

00:10:05.520 We forgot what it was all really about.

00:10:08.480 But tonight, we remember again and add to it.

00:10:13.080 We take four human beings and we place them in a tin can, no larger than a very small room,

00:10:20.420 and we send them into the most hostile environment we know exists.

00:10:25.900 No emergency breaks, no pulling over, no easy way home.

00:10:30.040 If something goes wrong, you're there, alone, four of you.

00:10:35.520 they're going to travel 250,000 miles to the moon,

00:10:39.560 and then they're going to go 5,000 miles beyond that.

00:10:43.460 Then they're going to swing wide on the dark side, if you will,

00:10:48.500 the far side of the moon,

00:10:50.460 farther than any human has gone in generations

00:10:54.040 as they swing back at the moon,

00:10:57.480 closer to the moon than we've ever been,

00:11:00.280 and hope that everything holds,

00:11:03.160 that every single calculation was right,

00:11:05.960 that every person in this thousands and thousands of people team

00:11:10.940 did their part right.

00:11:13.800 And if they did, they're just going to fall from the moon back to the earth.

00:11:19.200 They'll just fall back to earth in a controlled crash into the ocean.

00:11:26.080 That's remarkable.

00:11:28.140 but strip all of that stuff away

00:11:33.440 what is it really about

00:11:35.140 for those four people

00:11:39.140 because I've been thinking a lot about them

00:11:40.920 recently I'm really excited for this launch

00:11:43.600 I'm a moon baby

00:11:44.720 and

00:11:46.300 I have to tell you

00:11:48.920 at least for them

00:11:52.560 and the way I see it

00:11:53.840 what is this really all about

00:11:56.300 faith

00:11:56.980 faith in each other faith that thousands of imperfect people working together can achieve

00:12:06.560 something perfect enough to survive the void and for a few minutes and then the next 10 days

00:12:16.520 all of us get a share in that i don't care you don't have to understand the orbital mechanics

00:12:23.300 You don't have to know the math.

00:12:25.560 You just have to look up and feel it.

00:12:30.220 Hope.

00:12:34.380 We're about to do amazing things tonight.

00:12:39.960 But this week, we are so blessed because there's another kind of hope.

00:12:45.780 A quieter hope.

00:12:47.180 one I think is much more dangerous in a way

00:12:51.100 because it does not rely on anyone else.

00:12:54.500 It doesn't need a team of thousands.

00:12:56.800 It doesn't need fire or steel or countdown clocks.

00:13:00.960 It doesn't light up the sky.

00:13:03.280 It lights up something much, much harder to reach.

00:13:09.560 You.

00:13:15.240 Tonight's Passover.

00:13:17.180 and then it's Good Friday, and then it's Easter.

00:13:21.380 This is the week that remembers the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

00:13:31.880 Artemis is a man's miracle.

00:13:34.720 God's miracle uses words like salvation.

00:13:38.620 I was thinking about that last night.

00:13:40.160 It seems like such an old-timey word.

00:13:42.660 You've got to repent and have salvation.

00:13:47.180 Worn words that don't sound like today

00:13:51.820 because maybe they're just so rarely heard.

00:13:55.020 But if you strip salvation down, what does it actually mean?

00:14:00.760 Appropriately enough, salvation just means being rescued.

00:14:07.280 Not from space, not from the vacuum beyond our atmosphere,

00:14:13.720 but rescued from yourself.

00:14:17.180 to be weightless

00:14:21.340 from the weight you carry

00:14:24.380 from the mistakes you replay in your head

00:14:28.200 over and over and over again

00:14:30.300 for the voice that tells you in your own head

00:14:32.560 you've gone too far, you're too broken

00:14:34.260 it's too late, you're not worth it

00:14:36.860 you can't be rescued

00:14:39.000 that's despair

00:14:44.320 And the hope is the guarantee that the rescue has already been offered.

00:14:52.940 It's already completed.

00:14:55.180 It's already paid for.

00:14:57.320 You didn't have to train for it.

00:14:59.200 You don't have to have special credentials.

00:15:01.120 There's no team needed.

00:15:04.520 It's just a choice.

00:15:06.100 i know because i was

00:15:12.960 i was a burning rocket on a launch pad that never got off by the time i was 30

00:15:21.360 it burned everything up

00:15:24.360 this choice is the hardest one you'll ever make

00:15:29.240 to forgive yourself

00:15:32.700 and i don't know why it's so hard because he has already god's not surprised it's not like

00:15:40.600 i can't face him i got to tell him he knows already he knows he's just waiting for you to say

00:15:46.740 i need help that's it it sounds so simple

00:15:53.480 but it's true you're the only one standing in the way of that kind of hope

00:15:59.120 and this is your week

00:16:03.300 look for the signs in the heavens tonight

00:16:08.220 because a light will rise

00:16:11.580 a rocket will rise

00:16:15.920 and it will remind us

00:16:17.920 that mankind at its best

00:16:21.080 still can reach for the stars

00:16:23.640 but I urge you not to miss

00:16:27.280 the quieter truth of the week

00:16:29.040 long before we ever figured out

00:16:33.460 how to leave this planet

00:16:34.580 hope came down to meet us

00:16:39.260 and the best thing is

00:16:46.200 unlike Artemis

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00:18:26.100 tonight at nine o'clock i don't think the president is going to be he was he was supposed

00:18:33.280 to be at the launch tonight i don't think he's going to be at the launch tonight because at

00:18:37.000 nine o'clock uh he is delivering a major speech on the iran war um we're going to get into that

00:18:45.960 next hour and i have i have a way to understand him and us and uh and how all of this is going

00:18:53.880 to turn out if one of us doesn't change either he doesn't change or we don't change and i'll

00:19:00.280 explain that coming up in about 30 minutes also um we have um we have the astronaut remember the

00:19:07.660 astronaut that was trapped up in space and biden wasn't sending anybody to help and he was trapped

00:19:13.000 up there we're going to talk to him in a few minutes what is it like to be trapped in space

00:19:18.940 talk to him the four astronauts that are going up today on artemis 2 um you have reed weisman

00:19:27.560 he's the commander this is the first mission to go back to the moon since apollo 10-day flight

00:19:35.000 the first the first day they are going to they're going to go up and they're going to spend a day

00:19:39.840 just circling the earth just to make sure everything works they're like hey uh flip that

00:19:45.300 switch real quick see if that works they want to make sure everything works before they actually

00:19:49.900 hit the rockets again and go 255 000 miles i mean you imagine being that far away from home that is

00:20:00.380 these guys are amazing the pilot tonight he's a fighter pilot a test pilot he's going to be

00:20:08.020 controlling everything he's already lived in orbit aboard the iss the space station he has done

00:20:14.840 spacewalks he is nasa's chief astronaut he also trained everybody else um this one is not about

00:20:22.220 experimentation this one is about execution can we actually go back into deep space after all of

00:20:28.000 these years can we do it um the pilot the guy who's i guess going to be steering everything

00:20:34.900 is also a navy fighter pilot test pilot one of the most respected uh operational astronauts in

00:20:42.300 space corps um he flew on spacex he was crew number one first operational uh commercial

00:20:49.340 crew mission that alone puts him at a new category um here's a guy who's gone up into space but not

00:20:56.920 with nasa or any other country he's also the first black astronaut which is not a footnote here that's

00:21:02.460 a signal um we're expanding into space and we're expanding everybody i mean i hate i hate this dei

00:21:09.340 I crap, but at least all of these people are really, really qualified.

00:21:13.080 I don't care what color you are.

00:21:14.760 I don't care if you're male or female.

00:21:16.180 Are you qualified?

00:21:18.080 These guys are qualified.

00:21:19.580 Then you get to the woman on board.

00:21:22.780 That's Christina Koch.

00:21:24.500 She holds the record for the longest single space flight by a woman.

00:21:28.600 She was up in space for 328 days, nearly a year off the surface of the Earth.

00:21:37.220 um she is somebody who has already passed the endurance test uh she has also done spacewalks

00:21:45.120 she's lived through isolation in antarctica why would you ever want to do that just different

00:21:52.560 kind of people i guess she's going to be the first woman to travel to the moon so we have

00:21:56.380 first black man first woman and our mission specialist is from canada

00:22:04.760 i'm torn on this one because i mean he's a canadian he's a royal canadian air force fighter

00:22:13.180 pilot which i you know he's never flown in space you know uh he represents the international

00:22:20.620 backbone of artemis the partnership that makes the sustained return to the moon possible so we're

00:22:25.780 putting a canadian on board because i guess they helped pay for it or i don't know personally there

00:22:32.120 are many other canadians i wouldn't mind seeing shipped up into space uh i don't know this guy

00:22:38.660 so i hate to say yeah he could be ejected into space but uh you know so we got a canadian on

00:22:45.200 board too i mean everybody needs a mascot oh my gosh did i say that out loud that is just

00:22:51.060 he's going to be the first non-american to travel to the moon it's pretty remarkable

00:22:57.500 and you're welcome Canada you're welcome launch tonight uh is it supposed to be at 6 24

00:23:07.260 unless there's any delays uh it's my understanding there might be it could be 8 24 but we'll see

00:23:14.820 hopefully pray say a prayer this would be disastrous if something went wrong Artemis 2

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00:24:50.580 don't bang bang

00:25:01.920 don't bang bang

00:25:05.460 no sarah sarah no stop stop that needs that is that deserves a world premiere setup

00:25:17.140 that is an eric swalwell don't bang bang fang bang song and it's inappropriate at this moment

00:25:25.740 we have more important things to do we'll do that in a second also in about 30 minutes i'm going to

00:25:32.920 give you some an update on what the president is doing today today is an extraordinarily historic

00:25:40.660 day first time a president has ever sat in the supreme court to listen to an argument then

00:25:47.000 artemis then at 9 p.m he's giving what could be a ground shattering speech from the oval office he

00:25:57.720 is giving an address uh already three prime ministers or it's actually two prime ministers

00:26:03.120 and the head of the eu have already prepared their people in pretty disturbing speeches

00:26:09.580 um we'll find out tonight at nine o'clock it would it must be really important for the president to

00:26:16.980 speak maybe within an hour up to three hours after artemis launches he's completely destroying

00:26:24.840 the the great um pr if you will or just the hope that artemis could give he's going to follow that

00:26:33.500 you'll have about two hours to enjoy that light and then something big is being announced tonight

00:26:38.580 um we'll see i wanted to you know because it is easter week and i just think there are so many

00:26:45.340 things that are happening that are good um and we we have to have faith to get through all of this

00:26:52.260 i wanted to get uh butch uh wilmore on he is a retired nasa astronaut he was a navy captain

00:26:59.540 he has written a book called stuck in space do you remember when boeing uh sent up what was it

00:27:06.000 their, their star liner.

00:27:07.940 And I remember as he was sitting on the pad and I'm getting ready to watch

00:27:12.080 this thing launch.

00:27:12.800 I'm like, this is the worst thing.

00:27:14.160 I would not get into a boning Boeing star liner because remember it was all

00:27:17.200 the problems that they were having.

00:27:18.180 And I'm like, Boeing, you are so screwed.

00:27:20.060 If this thing goes up and it can't get back, God forbid.

00:27:24.060 And they were stuck in space forever.

00:27:26.820 And I think it was finally Elon Musk that went up and said, I'll go get

00:27:30.680 them.

00:27:31.760 That must've been terrifying.

00:27:33.360 butch is the guy who was the pilot at that time if he wasn't it was he the pilot

00:27:39.140 or the captain uh the commander i i'm not sure but um he was stuck up there and it's his faith

00:27:48.620 that got him through that and uh butch is on with us now butch were you the pilot the commander what

00:27:55.380 what position were you in i'm sorry yeah glenn no problem it's a blessing to be with you thank

00:28:00.520 you for having me on i was the commander i was in the left seat yeah i was the one on the controls

00:28:04.300 yeah that was my that was my role uh and when that thing happened how bad was it i mean now

00:28:12.700 we can talk about it because everybody was like oh no it's not so bad and i'm thinking no i think

00:28:17.000 that's really bad what was going through your head when you start going wrong yeah in the moment it

00:28:23.300 was it was it was pretty serious i mean we lost the ability to fully control the spacecraft in all

00:28:29.240 six degrees of freedom one one degree of freedom we lost completely the other axes the attitude and

00:28:35.060 the translation were compromised and were very very challenging this is before we were docking

00:28:40.400 out in front of the space station and what was going through my mind there was three things um

00:28:44.880 we have to dock uh we did not have very many options at the time not knowing why we're losing

00:28:51.860 these thrusters we lost lost ultimately lost five of our eight aft firing thrusters and during that

00:28:59.440 process not knowing why they're dropping um we have to dock if we don't dock because of the

00:29:03.920 control was was very challenging because i was i was manual control um i knew it would be very

00:29:10.460 difficult to control the spacecraft and get it to a position where we could do a deorbit burn and

00:29:14.800 return to earth so that's why the thought was we have to dock if we don't dock i'm not sure what

00:29:19.340 our options are and the third thing i thought this is a sick spacecraft uh if we are able to

00:29:25.820 dock successfully if we're able to get there i don't i don't think we'll be able to come back

00:29:30.100 on this spacecraft even then i knew that because i understand the the what all goes into trying to

00:29:35.080 bound a problem like this and understand it where you would crawl back in and attempt to come back

00:29:40.040 to earth i know how difficult that would be even in the moments of before docking so i knew that

00:29:44.920 if we got docked it, the chances were slim that we would turn on Starliner, even in those moments.

00:29:50.720 Where is Starliner now?

00:29:53.720 Starliner, it did come back. It did have some problems. We should not have been on it.

00:29:57.960 There are many others that would say it was fine, but it wasn't. We lost a pitch thruster,

00:30:02.080 so we would have been coming back into the atmosphere had we been on it. Zero fault

00:30:06.780 tolerance to maintaining our control of pitch control, so we shouldn't have been on it,

00:30:10.940 And I'm glad we weren't.

00:30:11.960 Right.

00:30:12.240 But it did make it back successfully.

00:30:15.960 That one pitch thruster that remained, it did successfully.

00:30:19.440 It did operate successfully, so it made it back.

00:30:21.700 And now they're refurbishing, going through the whole process of making sure that the thrusters are pristine, are workable, and trying to get back.

00:30:30.840 It'll be a cargo spacecraft initially, if and when it does fly again, and then we'll see if they ever put people on it again.

00:30:36.360 And so, you know, the reason why they put people like you, test pilots and people with vast experience up in a space and not people like me is because I would have been screaming, we're all going to die.

00:30:46.900 Was there was there a moment at all that you thought we're not coming home?

00:30:52.720 Well, you mentioned it at the very beginning there, Glenn.

00:30:56.420 You said the faith.

00:30:58.380 Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior.

00:31:00.860 I have eternal hope.

00:31:02.120 There's nothing that can can outdo or over over overshadow that.

00:31:06.040 So in all situations, that brings comfort and contentment, regardless if you are facing death.

00:31:12.040 And did death go through my mind?

00:31:13.920 Absolutely, it did, because the control was so difficult.

00:31:18.700 And the fact that not knowing if we could eventually get back, or not get back, but get docked to station, not understanding that in the moment, surely that went through my mind.

00:31:30.400 But even in that, I mean, my sins are forgiven.

00:31:34.200 Jesus Christ paid the price for my sins on the cross.

00:31:37.920 He incurred the wrath of God for my sins on the cross.

00:31:41.260 And therefore, I mean, I believe that, and he has transformed me.

00:31:45.360 He has forgiven me.

00:31:46.340 And because of that, I have eternal hope in any situation.

00:31:50.020 Fear, yeah, was there fear?

00:31:51.360 I would say there's fear, but you've got to be able to manage that in these high-stress situations because fear is very detrimental.

00:31:58.600 You've got to be able to focus because you have to perform, and fear can be a detriment to that.

00:32:04.200 And did everybody, I mean, I don't want to get into personal stuff for everybody else, but did everybody have that same kind of faith?

00:32:10.740 Did you minister to anybody?

00:32:14.520 We had some discussions about that after we got docked to space station, yes.

00:32:18.400 But everybody's at a different place.

00:32:20.360 The Lord has prepared me for that moment over decades.

00:32:23.860 And that's what really, you know, Glenn, the book, Second Space, that you mentioned, I didn't publish the book to sell the book.

00:32:30.340 I published the book because of the message.

00:32:32.140 The message is hope in the now comes in Jesus Christ, our Lord, and hope in eternity comes in Jesus Christ, our Lord.

00:32:39.460 And you can handle situations in the now because Christ has forgiven you of your sins.

00:32:45.380 And it's also a big, huge part about preparation, preparation, preparation.

00:32:49.980 And that's what the message of the book is.

00:32:51.900 You'll see life is tough.

00:32:53.240 And I said it many times, life is tough and you've got to want it.

00:32:55.940 Those are two themes in the book.

00:32:57.760 And that is the message.

00:32:59.640 That's why I publish it.

00:33:00.700 What does that mean?

00:33:01.260 what does that mean you've got to want it whatever it is endeavor that you're you're

00:33:06.480 endeavoring to do you've got to you've got to want it it takes commitment complete commitment

00:33:10.340 i'm glad you asked that question you got to be all in committed and that commitment

00:33:14.300 breeds preparation because the preparation has to be there because in many of our life endeavors

00:33:19.940 we have a great responsibility and when you're sitting in the commander seat

00:33:24.020 on the sixth first launch of a human rated spacecraft in the history of nasa this was

00:33:29.180 only the six, you know, Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, space shuttle, Dragon, and then us, there's a

00:33:35.080 great deal of responsibility. And the preparation was immense. I mean, I would go into the simulator

00:33:40.220 with our rendezvous officer on Saturday mornings at six o'clock, just the two of us, the only ones

00:33:43.980 in the whole place, all of NASA, going in there and getting ready and running scenarios and doing

00:33:49.020 different. We didn't imagine a scenario like this, but the preparation had to be there because

00:33:55.000 the responsibility is so great and those type of life endeavors require that and that's again that's

00:34:00.380 that's the message of the book it's in the book the guys getting in i've thought about them um i

00:34:08.440 mean they're going farther into space than man has ever gone before they're going to be closer

00:34:12.700 to the moon without landing on it than we've ever been before um and i think about all of the things

00:34:20.620 that could go wrong uh what advice would you give i mean they don't need it they've been up

00:34:27.640 over and over and over again but it must be i mean when you're strapped into that seat

00:34:33.980 and you've got all of that explosive power underneath you and i always think of it god

00:34:40.620 forbid i always think of it go with throttle up um what advice do you give to people going into

00:34:48.160 space? What should we be thinking or praying for? Yeah, well, that's a great question. These

00:34:55.080 individuals are professionals. I mean, I know them all well. I did a spacewalk with Reed Wiseman

00:35:00.020 back in 2014. So we were outside the space station together doing a spacewalk. So I know

00:35:05.320 them well. Victor Glover, it's hard to put into words. I mean, you know, you're the only people

00:35:10.800 in the whole universe doing that at the moment. And the responsibility there, again, you're in a

00:35:14.460 one man space capsule shaped like a person out in the vacuum of space.

00:35:17.820 It's just, and you see Hawaii go by at 17,500 miles an hour below you.

00:35:22.700 It's just, it's thrilling. And there's again,

00:35:25.540 responsibility because you're busy. You got, you got work to do.

00:35:27.820 You're not out there to sightsee. You're out there to perform tasks.

00:35:30.660 So anyway, that's what that's like. But anyway, these,

00:35:33.120 these folks are professional. They have done their preparation.

00:35:37.320 They are ready to go. They're excited about going, but if something goes wrong,

00:35:41.080 that's why we train the ground teams. This is a huge team.

00:35:43.700 This isn't just them. It's the ground teams as well. And honestly, the reason we docked successfully ultimately was, you know, maintaining control of the spacecraft in a very difficult situation.

00:35:53.620 But the ground team's coming up with a plan on the fly to get us safely docked. And that's, you know, that's what we do at NASA.

00:36:00.120 We we prepare, we hope and plan for the pristine mission, knowing that things are going to go wrong.

00:36:07.200 This is this is high risk business that we're in. And then we're ready to handle those situations when they occur.

00:36:13.280 And thus far, historically, we've been able to do that well.

00:36:16.100 We've had many, many situations that we have been able to rectify on the fly, real time.

00:36:22.080 And there's a couple, as we know, that we've had tragedy has happened.

00:36:25.740 But regrettably, that's part of this business.

00:36:28.440 It can be as difficult as it is.

00:36:31.280 But obviously, you don't go until you think you're fully ready.

00:36:34.960 And I know the people, I know John Blevins, the chief engineer of the Space Launch System, the rocket, he's ready.

00:36:40.220 I've talked to him just yesterday, and they are all prepared.

00:36:44.400 And if any small thing that they think could be a detriment to this mission

00:36:47.660 happens prior to launch, they won't go.

00:36:50.080 And that's just the way they operate.

00:36:52.640 You were up there.

00:36:54.080 We had the capability of going and rescuing you,

00:36:56.800 and politics, at least from this vantage point,

00:37:00.180 seemed to play a role in that.

00:37:01.320 I don't know if that's true from your vantage point.

00:37:03.700 But when Elon Musk got involved, that must have been a good day.

00:37:10.220 well I would say it like this I don't know all those conversations I can't speak to any of those

00:37:16.220 things that that happened from the political realms as you mentioned but we were prepared

00:37:21.080 in all aspects of space flight Sonny and I both had been space station commanders in the past

00:37:26.660 we understood the space station that's one of the reasons we were selected for the position we were

00:37:29.640 in because you just never know and when our our stay was extended we were fully fully qualified

00:37:35.900 and prepared to do every single function on the space station, including spacewalks, which we did.

00:37:41.740 And that was because we pushed some of it.

00:37:43.820 We certainly did.

00:37:44.500 It wasn't just in the system.

00:37:45.740 We pushed and said we need to be ready because we just don't know.

00:37:48.400 But that's how we – and that mantra, that's how we roll, right?

00:37:53.020 We prepare, prepare for all contingencies, and this one was one of them.

00:37:56.320 So when we got extended, there was no reason.

00:37:59.720 I wouldn't have sent somebody up to get me, honestly, Glenn, because we were trained,

00:38:05.260 And we were. We had the experience. We'd been there before. We understood space station operations.

00:38:09.800 And I wouldn't have sent somebody up to get me either. So could they have launched a rocket and spent hundreds of millions of dollars to do that, to come get us?

00:38:17.220 Probably could. But there was no need to do that. Just work us into the normal flow. And that's how it played out.

00:38:21.940 So that's why we were there for almost 10 months. And, you know, it's a small price to pay when you're because to serve your country, especially in this fashion, is a privilege.

00:38:29.880 I know that's what all the four astronauts on onboard Artemis right now. That's the way they view it.

00:38:34.540 It's a privilege to be in the position they're in, and they're honored to serve in that fashion, and so were we.

00:38:40.600 I got to believe, you know, I talked to Buzz Aldrin.

00:38:43.440 It was my dad's, I think, 70th birthday, and I arranged lunch with the two of us and Buzz Aldrin.

00:38:51.340 And it was kind of a sad meeting because, you know, he's never really moved past the walking on the moon.

00:38:58.000 And he said it was devastating to come back to Earth and knowing you're never going back up.

00:39:04.540 I mean, and you're in your 20s and you've just done the greatest thing any man has ever done on earth.

00:39:10.820 And so in some ways, it must have been kind of nice.

00:39:13.880 Wow, I get to stay up here for an extra year in some ways.

00:39:19.220 But now that you're out of it, does that play a role in you at all of I'm not going back up?

00:39:26.140 Because it's a very small club and really super cool.

00:39:31.060 I tell you, it is a small club.

00:39:33.320 It is really super cool, but we're all, you know, when I read Scripture, Glenn, I see that my purpose in existing is for my Lord's glory, and it ultimately is my good, and that's my focus.

00:39:45.260 I have a greater hope, a much greater hope in space like it ever brings, and that's eternal hope with Jesus Christ, my Lord, and that's what drives me, and that's my focus.

00:39:54.860 I will not be down.

00:39:56.480 464 days in space is plenty for me and for anyone, but would I like to go to the moon?

00:40:01.940 Sure.

00:40:02.300 sure but but yeah but i'm not going to and because i've got a great thank you so much the name of the

00:40:08.460 book stuck in space and astronauts hope throughout the unexpected get it now stuck in space butch

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00:47:42.340 The case is closed, he screams and shouts

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00:47:53.860 Screaming collusion louder than anyone else

00:47:57.340 While Fang Fang bundled checks with that sweet CCCP smile

00:48:01.480 Placed an intern close

00:48:03.040 Stayed for a while on the intel committee

00:48:06.560 Guarding secrets so tight

00:48:08.060 But his own honey trap was working overtime at night

00:48:11.580 Now Cash wants the receipts, the text, and the pics

00:48:14.740 Eric's yelling nonsense while sweating like

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00:48:22.740 Small well don't want the files to drop

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00:48:44.480 Ran for governor, acting holier than thou

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00:49:01.100 I cooperated!

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00:49:08.760 Got played by Beijing while calling everyone up front

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00:49:38.940 Swalwell don't want the files to drop

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00:49:49.160 Telling her dreams

00:49:50.780 Better pray they stay locked away

00:49:53.120 Or California's gonna know

00:49:55.960 You went bang bang

00:49:59.260 With fang fang

00:50:00.920 Don't bang

00:50:01.800 Oh, this is wrong

00:50:03.280 I mean, we don't know that

00:50:04.680 I mean

00:50:05.340 Who are you?

00:50:09.940 This is gonna be in your head

00:50:11.140 All day now

00:50:11.800 all day no matter what happens the president could say we're all going to die in 10 minutes

00:50:16.100 the missiles have been launched and you will be in your head you'll be going don't bang bang

00:50:20.700 thank the hang i mean it's going to happen and i i apologize it's workplace harassment is what it

00:50:26.700 is bring that light to to your day um all right lots of stuff going on we just talked about

00:50:32.040 artemis uh last hour um tonight i feel like i'm i feel like i'm 10 i feel like i'm 10 i'm so excited

00:50:38.840 I'm going to be there at the launch tonight.

00:50:40.820 We'll talk about that tomorrow and bring you some amazing stuff.

00:50:43.620 If you're a Torch Insider, you're going to get some backstage stuff all throughout the day.

00:50:47.980 We'll be posting it.

00:50:49.060 The president is going to speak on, I don't know what.

00:50:52.060 He says the Iran war, but it could be, I mean, did you see what he posted yesterday on truth?

00:51:00.240 I mean, I felt really good, but at the same time, I'm like, wow, I've never seen a president say this.

00:51:06.820 All of those countries, I'm quoting the president, all of those countries that can't get jet fuel

00:51:11.200 because of the Strait of Hormuz, like the United Kingdom, which refused to get involved in the

00:51:15.880 decapitation of Iran, I have a suggestion for you. Number one, buy from the U.S. We have plenty.

00:51:22.760 Number two, build up some delayed courage. Go to the strait and take it. You'll have to start

00:51:28.800 learning how to fight for yourself. The USA won't be there to help you anymore, just like you

00:51:33.200 weren't there for us. Iran has been essentially decimated. The hard part is done. Now go get your

00:51:39.400 own oil, President Donald J. Trump. Holy cow. Holy cow. Now he has been leading towards this

00:51:46.300 for a very long time. He's been saying it really since his first term. Why are we in NATO? Why are

00:51:51.640 we spending all this money? We don't need to be in NATO. Now tonight he gives his speech at nine

00:51:57.860 o'clock. We don't know what it is. However, we do know that it has something to do with Iran

00:52:06.060 and the rest of the world, because already the prime minister of England, the prime minister

00:52:13.580 of Australia and the head of the EU have all given a speech. The prime minister of England

00:52:21.480 said, we now know that getting out of the EU is really wrong. We all have to band together.

00:52:25.680 they are preparing i think for some sort of a america's not going to defend us good good

00:52:34.000 good grow up and protect yourself now the problem is they're not going to have all the money that

00:52:41.080 they you know they still don't have for all of their social programs so they're going to go into

00:52:45.780 real tailspin if that happens but hey that's they're big they're big boys now you know you

00:52:51.800 have to deal with your own problems um they're also saying that this is i mean stormer actually

00:52:58.440 or starmer actually used the language of this is going to be extraordinarily hard and difficult

00:53:04.100 on a coming energy crisis so we don't know what's going to happen um but

00:53:10.220 i've been thinking about this for the last few days because i thought about wartime generals

00:53:16.940 and i think trump is a wartime president so what is a what is a wartime general do um it's not a

00:53:29.200 personality thing or just in tone or whatever it is a cut from a completely different cloth kind

00:53:35.880 of thing a wartime general operates under the central assumption that we are already in danger

00:53:43.400 do you just make this checklist in your head as i go through this is he a wartime president

00:53:48.820 does president trump believe the republic is already in danger not hypothetically right now

00:53:58.140 we are in danger if he does that assumption changes everything i believe he thinks we are

00:54:07.520 in danger on multiple fronts, not just Iran, you know, with the nukes, but the Islamists,

00:54:14.240 the 12ers, Islam taking over Western Europe, the Marxists, the socialists, the anarchists,

00:54:19.060 the EDU, big money foundations of Soros, corrupt press, big tech, the court systems, the CIA,

00:54:27.480 DOJ, the corruption, the cartels, the illegals, the crime, war on faith, war on the family.

00:54:33.540 I mean, he thinks we, and we are, we are at war with all of those things.

00:54:38.760 So if he believes that, then that changes a few things.

00:54:43.360 First, now listen to these characteristics that change if you're a wartime general.

00:54:47.620 First one is clarity over consensus.

00:54:50.640 A wartime general does not wait for polling to confirm reality.

00:54:55.280 He acts on what is not what is popular.

00:55:00.340 Does that not sound like Donald Trump?

00:55:02.280 speed over process in war delay kills bureaucracy is not neutral it's lethal in war

00:55:13.460 he also believes or a wartime general also believes outcomes over optics victory matters

00:55:21.340 more than how it looks on cable news does that not explain how what how he's operating right now

00:55:28.340 in this war it's almost as if he doesn't care about the optics he's like this has to be done

00:55:33.280 the other one is enemy identification a wartime general names the threat plainly it's foreign

00:55:43.560 it's domestic uh whatever it is and they do not soften the language to preserve comfort

00:55:49.720 ronald reagan did this just on this is an evil empire donald trump does that with all of it

00:55:55.440 Whatever he sees, remember his list of we're at war and we are.

00:56:00.420 We're at war.

00:56:01.380 This is a civilizational war.

00:56:03.420 It is an existential threat.

00:56:05.540 It's gone if we don't pay attention.

00:56:09.680 A wartime general also has tolerance for disruption because they know war rearranges systems.

00:56:17.340 Stability is not the goal.

00:56:18.980 Survival is.

00:56:21.000 And the last characteristic that changes is moral framing.

00:56:24.180 Things stop being so gray. Some things have to be opposed directly and decisively. Does that not define who Donald Trump is? Because I think it does. I think it does.

00:56:41.820 a peacetime is and see if this doesn't sound like barack obama consensus over clarity process over

00:56:52.040 speed optics over outcomes reluctance to name enemies preference for stability moral ambiguity

00:56:59.420 okay now i started looking into this a couple of days ago because i was going to write

00:57:06.280 a, a, a monologue that was about, we have a wartime president and a peacetime GOP

00:57:14.960 because that's what's happening in Congress. They're peacetime GOP. They think that everything's

00:57:22.300 going to be fine. And they're acting as if we're in peace while he's saying we're at war and you,

00:57:27.240 you know, it a good portion of this country knows we're at war for our very lives and civilization,

00:57:34.600 but everybody's acting like it's peacetime okay i'm not going there

00:57:42.440 because that's not the biggest problem

00:57:46.160 as i was thinking about i thought okay has this ever happened in history before and the first

00:57:54.240 thing that came to mind was yeah churchill churchill was a wartime leader and he was preaching

00:58:01.240 about Hitler long before anybody wanted to hear it.

00:58:05.540 I mean, 1938, they didn't even want to hear it.

00:58:07.480 They didn't really want to hear that from him until 1940.

00:58:11.620 Churchill was not the leader.

00:58:13.760 In fact, they kicked him out.

00:58:15.160 His own party rejected him.

00:58:17.780 And Breton was led by Neville Chamberlain, who was a peacetime leader.

00:58:24.360 He believed that war could be avoided.

00:58:27.320 He trusted the negotiation agreements.

00:58:30.140 And he was a reflection of the exhausted public from the last war.

00:58:36.160 Does any of this sound familiar?

00:58:38.480 England was exhausted and did not want to go in because they were exhausted by World War I.

00:58:43.000 They didn't want to do it again.

00:58:44.340 They said, look what happened.

00:58:46.040 So when Churchill started to say war, nobody wanted to go.

00:58:49.660 so neville chamberlain was sent over to meet with um with uh hitler and they came up with

00:59:02.320 a munich agreement and peace was preserved there'll be peace in our time okay this is obama

00:59:07.700 and biden dealing with iran churchill however saw something different he said

00:59:13.960 Hitler was not a negotiator

00:59:16.860 in a normal sense. This guy is not

00:59:18.800 negotiating. He is

00:59:20.840 using our fear of

00:59:22.640 the fight, and he's

00:59:24.700 flattering us and saying enough things right

00:59:26.680 to delay our entrance

00:59:28.600 into the war in Europe.

00:59:30.360 He is going to use this

00:59:32.500 delay. Does that not sound also

00:59:34.420 like Iran?

00:59:36.600 The delay was not

00:59:38.320 neutral. Churchill knew

00:59:40.180 its strength in Germany.

00:59:41.500 the war was not coming someday it was already underway in spirit and intent and i don't care

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00:59:58.940 the war with poland it was planned it was printed it was distributed to the highest of generals

01:00:04.440 as top secret classified and it it it showed every bridge every every move they were going

01:00:11.720 to make when they took poland and it was written before hitler and chamberlain were meeting where

01:00:17.280 he was like i want you to know we have no design on par poland is not a target yes it was he had

01:00:24.060 already distributed the battle plans the problem was that the english public didn't accept church

01:00:30.020 Hill's view until it was undeniable.

01:00:33.720 And that moment was the battle of Britain and the Blitz.

01:00:37.780 Bombs have a way of clarifying a philosophy.

01:00:43.140 So what happens when a president is wartime and the public is not?

01:00:50.220 Because that's where we are.

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01:02:02.200 okay so what happens when a when a president is wartime in the public isn't it

01:02:21.180 well, it creates a very dangerous lag.

01:02:24.980 It's a misalignment between the leadership's perception of the threat

01:02:29.260 and the public's willingness to accept the cost of that.

01:02:34.760 I mean, Donald Trump just gave a press conference yesterday

01:02:37.460 where the reporter said it's $4 a gallon of gas,

01:02:40.440 and he said, yes, and there's no nuclear threat.

01:02:42.440 And they said, but it's $4 a gallon of gas.

01:02:44.720 Yes, and you're not going to be vaporized.

01:02:46.620 That's the disconnect.

01:02:48.400 He's looking at it as this was a threat.

01:02:51.820 I have to take care of that first.

01:02:54.100 This gap always happens the same way.

01:02:58.300 It produces four predictable effects.

01:03:00.280 First, the trust begins to fracture.

01:03:04.800 The public begins to think this is exaggerated.

01:03:08.000 This didn't happen.

01:03:09.180 We're being dragged into something.

01:03:11.600 Sound familiar?

01:03:12.700 His own base is saying this right now.

01:03:15.760 Meanwhile, the leadership is thinking, you don't understand the stakes.

01:03:20.700 Both sides lose confidence in the other.

01:03:23.580 Very dangerous.

01:03:25.120 The second thing that happens is political isolation of the leader.

01:03:29.200 Even if the leader is right about the threat, the institutions resist.

01:03:34.340 Right?

01:03:34.980 You see that happening?

01:03:36.560 Allies are hesitating.

01:03:37.980 Hello?

01:03:39.120 Media fragments all of the narrative.

01:03:41.540 This is exactly what happened to Churchill prior to 1940.

01:03:46.120 He was an alarmist.

01:03:47.040 He was reckless.

01:03:47.860 He was out of his mind.

01:03:48.920 He was dangerous.

01:03:50.940 Third thing that happens, delayed mobilization, because a peacetime public does not sacrifice easily.

01:03:59.060 They do not accept shortages.

01:04:01.160 They do not tolerate casualties.

01:04:03.520 They don't want to reorient their daily life.

01:04:06.360 So the nation responds too slowly, and in war, time is not neutral.

01:04:13.760 The fourth thing that always happens is eventually reality shocks,

01:04:21.120 and it forces the alignment if you can get all the players still in the same place.

01:04:26.300 There's an attack, there's an economic collapse, there's a visible escalation.

01:04:31.160 In Britain, it took the bombing of London, it took the blitz.

01:04:34.100 In the U.S. during World War II, it took an attack on Pearl Harbor.

01:04:38.500 We have been here before.

01:04:39.660 This is exactly what happened with Pearl Harbor.

01:04:41.800 And nobody wanted to go to war in World War II.

01:04:44.120 Nobody wanted to fight the Germans.

01:04:46.640 Until something that shock happens, large parts of the public resist the wartime frame.

01:04:52.320 That's why the Green-Red Alliance is not blowing buildings up yet.

01:04:58.920 But they don't want that shock to happen because that brings us all together.

01:05:05.540 Now, here's the part people forget about Churchill.

01:05:08.560 Churchill was a Nobel Prize winning laureate.

01:05:15.160 I mean, he was a beautiful writer.

01:05:17.460 He did something that very few can do.

01:05:21.960 He translated reality into the language the public could eventually accept.

01:05:26.500 remember he was the guy we shall fight on the beaches it's our finest hour he didn't just

01:05:32.560 describe the war he brought the public into it psychologically morally uh emotionally

01:05:39.580 and that's the second half of wartime leadership

01:05:43.380 do we have that do we have anyone telling the tale in a way that is actually waking people up

01:05:55.000 and bringing them into this emotionally, intellectually, spiritually?

01:06:01.040 Do we have anybody?

01:06:02.640 I think he's kind of alone on this island expecting us to get it,

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01:06:09.080 So does that lead us to any place good?

01:06:12.760 Well, there's a danger zone, a closing window.

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01:07:49.300 so i i want to spend some time trying to just explain not to tell you what you should believe

01:08:10.140 or what's right or wrong or what we should be doing just explain why you feel this disconnect

01:08:15.600 why the right feels splintered and people are saying, he's betrayed us, he's betrayed us.

01:08:23.320 Okay, that's one way to look at it. Another way to look at it, and probably historically,

01:08:27.720 the right way to look at it is you hired a wartime president. When we were in the election,

01:08:35.160 everybody felt we were at war on something. We were at war with a government that wouldn't

01:08:39.700 listen to us. We were at a war that the government was trying just to destroy our economy. They were

01:08:45.060 trying to destroy our jobs, our schools. Um, they were, uh, they were aligning themselves

01:08:51.900 with our enemies. They were a part of this W E F the, the court system is, was out of control.

01:08:59.480 The, the DOJ was out of control. We felt we were at war. And so we hired a guy who had that view.

01:09:08.400 And so we got him in, but he also said, I don't believe in wars. I don't, I don't want these

01:09:13.140 long drawn out wars. Okay, good. We're on same page. Now he gets in and we all of a sudden

01:09:20.680 trusted this guy with everything. He has not betrayed us at any time. In my view, he has not

01:09:27.440 betrayed us. He has only done what he said he was going to do, but he comes in and he looks at the

01:09:33.080 analysis of everything. And in every step for every day, he has been office in office. He has

01:09:40.980 done remarkable things like a warrior, not a regular president, not a peacetime general,

01:09:48.460 like a wartime president. I'm not waiting. We're doing it right now. You don't want to do it that

01:09:55.180 way. Fine. I'll do it myself. He is taking bold, unbelievably bold, agree or disagree,

01:10:02.580 unbelievably bold steps as a wartime president. So he sees what's happening over in Iran.

01:10:09.600 iran is the one that is supplying all of the drones for russia up in ukraine they're also

01:10:17.520 building all these drones to hide and protect their nuclear missile program they twelver shia

01:10:24.340 shia twelvers are crazy we all have agreed for 47 years they cannot have a nuke what donald trump

01:10:34.380 saw was they are protecting that, they are delaying, they're building, they're continuing

01:10:39.640 to build, and they're building now all of these drones, which we'll never be able to get through.

01:10:45.280 If we don't take them out now, we won't be able to take them out, and they can't ever have a nuke.

01:10:52.360 So like a wartime president or wartime general, he says, move forward. It's the right thing to do,

01:10:58.940 to hell with the consequences and what people think. This is the right thing. That's what you

01:11:04.360 hired him to do. I'm not questioning him. I am worried. I am fearful because I don't have all

01:11:14.580 of the information. I don't know what's happening. You don't either. Nobody does.

01:11:19.540 And so I'm worried. But this guy has earned enough trust with me to go, he is a wartime general. He

01:11:26.420 is not stupid. I don't care what anybody says. This guy is a freaking genius with vision that

01:11:31.980 i have not seen in any president in my lifetime and you like it or not he's the president

01:11:38.900 i'm going to trust him i'm going to trust him enough to go okay he's seeing stuff that i don't

01:11:44.900 have the privilege or the or the responsibility to see i'm going to give him rope so he's doing

01:11:52.760 things now as a wartime president would do now what happens because we are not a wartime people

01:11:59.280 You might have thought we're at war with the economy, we're at war with jobs, we're at war with schools.

01:12:04.360 Well, he fixed those things.

01:12:05.600 And how come he's not fixing the economy faster?

01:12:08.080 And why is he paying attention?

01:12:09.500 Because it's all connected.

01:12:11.700 It's all connected.

01:12:13.520 And here's where we have a real problem.

01:12:17.360 We have a real problem.

01:12:19.240 There's a danger zone.

01:12:20.440 OK, if you don't have if you have a wartime president and a peacetime public and there's no successful translation between them, it's it's unstable.

01:12:34.080 The leader is going to be rejected before the public understands the threat.

01:12:38.420 That's real possibility right now.

01:12:40.620 The public is shocked into alignment, maybe too late.

01:12:44.040 And the country fractures internally while facing an external danger.

01:12:49.140 We're in, we're at risk on that. Okay. That's the risk window. The hard question here is not, is Donald Trump the right leader? Because history, you don't know that until you look back. It's unclear in the moment.

01:13:06.900 every time the real question is can this leader bring the public to understand reality before

01:13:14.520 reality imposes itself and possibly too late churchill eventually did but only after the

01:13:22.440 bomb started falling only after germans were like we're going to take england and the bomb

01:13:27.620 started to fall that's when people were willing to go churchill help us okay the through line here

01:13:33.620 is that a wartime president without a wartime public is absolutely unstable.

01:13:40.840 A wartime public without a wartime leader is vulnerable.

01:13:45.980 But when the two align, that's when nations endure things they couldn't otherwise survive.

01:13:53.460 That's the Churchill lesson.

01:13:55.680 Not that he was right, but that the timing and his communication and the public alignment

01:14:02.080 determined whether being right actually mattered.

01:14:06.040 It doesn't matter if Donald Trump is right,

01:14:08.320 if we reject it and then we find out later.

01:14:12.140 It doesn't matter if we had another president

01:14:15.560 who was peacetime and we were all around him going,

01:14:21.020 yeah, and then we're hit by something.

01:14:23.160 It doesn't matter.

01:14:24.880 We got to get this one right.

01:14:27.300 And if you know the patterns, you can look for them

01:14:29.780 and you can go, wait a minute, wait a minute.

01:14:30.940 Am I just being swept up in the patterns of history?

01:14:35.820 And that doesn't mean you have to agree or disagree with what's happening.

01:14:41.380 It just means be aware of it so you're not just a domino that falls when somebody just pushes you.

01:14:48.980 Stand where you want to stand with reason to stand there.

01:14:52.940 And the knowledge of what standing there has meant historically because we have been here before.

01:14:59.620 FDR was not a wartime president until we had Pearl Harbor.

01:15:06.880 But in 1938-39, he started doing things to prepare.

01:15:11.920 This president is preparing.

01:15:13.500 What do you think he's doing with Europe?

01:15:15.600 He knows Europe is on its last leg, and we cannot be a part of that.

01:15:22.240 We can't afford to put all of our troops, all of our money, and everything else over in Europe

01:15:26.480 If they won't wake up themselves, they are going to be lost.

01:15:31.800 Get out while you can.

01:15:34.860 He's preparing them.

01:15:36.600 That's what he did yesterday with that tweet.

01:15:38.640 He is preparing them.

01:15:39.960 Look, get your own oil.

01:15:41.840 You don't want to be a part of this.

01:15:43.700 That's fine.

01:15:44.360 I've been telling you now for years.

01:15:46.780 I don't think you're actually an ally of ours.

01:15:49.980 You'll take our stuff, but you won't help us when we think it's important.

01:15:54.760 And that's fine.

01:15:55.880 You're all weasels. You're all afraid of your own Islamicist public. We're not there yet. We still have a chance. We are not going to let this happen to us. So crap or get off the pot. Well, you're not going to crap. So fine. Get your own oil. You're going to have to learn how to take care of yourself.

01:16:18.560 That's what he said last night.

01:16:20.460 Tonight is really important.

01:16:23.060 If we are going to survive this time period, I mean, I came in, Ricky sat down, and she's like, well, where do you want to start?

01:16:32.360 And I said, I want to start something hopeful and happy.

01:16:34.360 I want to start with Artemis.

01:16:35.260 But this is, I believe, in my entire lifetime, this is the most dangerous day for our republic I have seen.

01:16:48.560 You have Artemis.

01:16:49.940 If something goes wrong with Artemis, the damage that that will do to our nation, the damage to our psyche as a nation, the message it would send to the rest of the world, America is over.

01:17:06.480 That is so incredibly powerful itself.

01:17:11.620 And if it's successful, the message it sends to the rest of the world, we're back.

01:17:16.720 Watch us.

01:17:17.580 don't screw with us we're going to the moon again we are we are reaching beyond the moon

01:17:24.380 we are going to live in the stars that's powerful if it works tonight he's going to talk about oil

01:17:35.380 he's going to talk about what our next plan is maybe he's got something happy like it's over

01:17:43.100 gang. I don't think so. Not by the way the allies are reacting. Now, maybe the allies are reacting

01:17:49.220 this way because he's going to say something like, we're not going to be a part of NATO anymore.

01:17:53.480 They didn't help us. We're not going to help them. And that would put them in a tailspin.

01:17:57.760 That would make them say the things that they just did. We're in trouble because America is

01:18:02.620 not going to be there for us anymore. We have to do our own thing. This is going to cost us a lot

01:18:06.120 of money. Gasoline is going to go through the roof, yada, yada, because they're not going to

01:18:09.740 protect our ships anymore. We have to protect our ships. That would be a good thing for America,

01:18:16.140 I think. I mean, I urged the president yesterday, please, Mr. President, get out of NATO. Those are

01:18:23.860 going to be Islamic countries with our nukes. We got to get our nukes out of those areas where

01:18:32.100 they're going to fall to Islamist. Otherwise, those are going to be nuclear armed Islamist

01:18:38.060 countries. We cannot afford those nukes to be there anymore. Get them out. Get our troops out

01:18:44.920 as much as we can do without having a total vacuum. You got to get them out of there.

01:18:51.080 And I hope tonight is the beginning of that. And then you know what? Well, you want to talk about

01:18:55.820 a peace dividend? You know how much money we'll save if we are not being the NATO? We spend so

01:19:01.940 much money on NATO.

01:19:04.120 Why?

01:19:05.680 Why? What have they done

01:19:08.080 for you, America?

01:19:10.120 What have they done for you?

01:19:14.100 But this is a scary,

01:19:16.280 scary time.

01:19:17.740 Scary time.

01:19:20.120 We just have to keep our

01:19:21.880 heads about us.

01:19:24.520 We just have to

01:19:25.540 we have to hope

01:19:29.260 that we don't need the shock and awe of bombs.

01:19:37.880 I fear we do.

01:19:40.940 People usually do.

01:19:43.760 But I'm not sure our enemy is so stupid to give those to us.

01:19:49.580 People learned from Pearl Harbor.

01:19:52.200 They really thought that would demoralize us.

01:19:55.460 It didn't.

01:19:56.920 Remember the old phrase, don't wake a sleeping giant?

01:20:00.320 The world has learned from that.

01:20:01.840 You do not wake up the American people.

01:20:03.660 Keep them asleep for as long as you possibly can.

01:20:06.860 The president knows you're asleep.

01:20:09.820 He knows.

01:20:13.020 He's trying to wake us up.

01:20:16.820 Maybe tonight at nine, he will.

01:20:20.340 Back in a minute.

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01:22:11.920 uh all right so i want to talk to you and give you some hope here um i just gave you the problem

01:22:27.780 the problem is a we are a peacetime public and we have a wartime president and i think we are

01:22:32.200 living in wartimes but the american people don't understand that yet and they'll only see a piece

01:22:37.680 of the war that they care about it's you got to look at the whole thing we are at war with iran

01:22:43.400 literally islamic republic um the islamist the 12ers the islamist takeover of western europe

01:22:50.000 england marxist socialist anarchist edu were big money foundation soros the ford foundation you

01:22:57.720 know the no kings thing that's well funded that's a war corrupt press big tech social ai court system

01:23:04.460 CIA DOJ corruption cartels illegal crime all of that but there are three things that were also

01:23:11.780 under attack and they are the answer they are the answer our faith is under attack

01:23:22.020 our belief in God is under attack our families are under attack and you personally

01:23:32.840 you are under attack your belief that you make a difference that your voice counts that you

01:23:40.840 are the sovereign of your own life remember in america power goes from god to you to government

01:23:51.400 they have convinced you that's not true you fix you you fix your belief your

01:24:02.180 when you stand strong and uh-uh, no, excuse me, no, I'm not taking that. And you teach that to

01:24:10.760 your family and your children. You fix your family. You atone for the mistakes that you've

01:24:16.800 made in your life. If you happen to be a crossdresser and your wife is a gnome, I'm just

01:24:22.560 saying you get all of this out of your life and you put your life back in order and you do the

01:24:29.380 right thing and strengthen your family. And how do you do that? You get back into your faith.

01:24:37.020 You find God, real God, because he has power way beyond us. And he is in charge of all that. He's

01:24:46.000 not surprised by any of this. And he's asking us, especially this week, will you just come home?

01:24:50.700 Will you just come home? I'll help you with all of this. Please just come home.

01:24:54.360 Those three things are the only three things that you have control over.

01:24:58.920 But they are the answer.

01:25:00.140 It's why revolutionaries always try to destroy the family, the individual, and their faith.

01:25:06.140 Fix those and we fix the rest.

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01:26:08.160 I got to tell you, today is such an important day in so many ways.

01:26:13.220 It is the most packed we've ever been on any show, I think, of really important things to talk about.

01:26:21.180 and I'm trying to back up just a bit

01:26:24.040 and give you perspective on

01:26:25.920 everything because it is also Holy Week

01:26:28.260 Passover starts tonight

01:26:29.560 Easter is this weekend

01:26:31.160 and I need perspective

01:26:33.460 and I don't know about you but I need hope

01:26:35.540 I know times are tough

01:26:38.280 I know times are tough and I know

01:26:39.980 President could speak tonight at 9

01:26:41.580 everyone should watch this speech

01:26:43.220 this speech is going to be critical

01:26:44.480 I don't know what it is

01:26:45.380 but it could be a myriad of things

01:26:49.560 But, you know, thank God for Torch today because I've been listening to Jason.

01:26:54.660 When I go into commercial breaks, I'm trying to put together how am I going to frame everything for you, you know, the next break.

01:27:01.180 He's going through a litany of stuff I just can't get through to.

01:27:05.760 I don't have time to get to today.

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01:27:22.340 You'll get all of the news, but you won't get necessarily the perspective.

01:27:25.540 But there's a lot out there today you have to look at.

01:27:29.700 Tomorrow, I'm going to the launch of Artemis 2 tonight and watch that.

01:27:37.300 And then I'm flying back here tomorrow to do the show.

01:27:40.320 And I just wrote down some notes for a monologue I want to tell you tomorrow.

01:27:43.460 I think we are reliving history in an unbelievable series of coincidence that shows us the path forward.

01:27:53.100 That'll be on tomorrow's program.

01:27:57.000 I want to spend some time with an astrophysicist.

01:27:59.640 This is a guy.

01:28:00.460 He has done a podcast with me.

01:28:02.000 His name is Hugh Ross.

01:28:03.700 And he is a guy who started out as an atheist.

01:28:06.980 And then he started as a kid reading the Bible because he was reading everything.

01:28:12.420 And he's like, why don't I give this a whirl?

01:28:13.900 He reads the Bible and he's realizing with what he knows about science, he's like, wait a minute, this is accurate.

01:28:21.040 This is scientifically accurate.

01:28:24.200 Yesterday I was talking to you about Artemis and I got a lot of people saying, this is our golden calf, Glenn.

01:28:29.920 This is our Tower of Babel.

01:28:32.160 I don't think so.

01:28:33.440 I don't think we're making, I'm not making this into our God by any stretch of the imagination.

01:28:38.800 I think this is man exploring, which is exactly what we were born to do.

01:28:45.180 God wants us to find him.

01:28:47.680 He wants us to explore.

01:28:49.060 Can you imagine if we didn't have so much evil in the world and we weren't fighting

01:28:52.360 each other and we weren't blowing each other up and we weren't wasting our time on stupid

01:28:56.220 things?

01:28:56.860 Can you imagine how far we would be in exploration?

01:28:59.840 We would be completely different humans.

01:29:02.400 I think that's what God wants us to do, but I don't know.

01:29:05.960 So I want to kind of go down the road of, is space exploration important or is it a Tower of Babel?

01:29:14.640 Hugh Ross joins me in 60 seconds.

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01:30:34.460 my friend hugh ross astrophysicist uh reasons to believe founder and senior scholar uh and author

01:30:44.080 of a new book out noah's flood revisited hello hugh how are you doing well thank you

01:30:51.240 you bet um so can i start with just space for a second yesterday i can uh i had a lot of i had a

01:30:58.240 lot of people push back and say glenn space is a waste of money and it is uh it's our tower of

01:31:04.800 babel trying to make ourselves look so great i don't look at it that way i i look at it from

01:31:09.980 the view of an explorer and i believe god wants us to explore how do you feel about yeah he yeah

01:31:16.980 he made us curious i mean we're unique amongst all life on planet earth and we're curious about

01:31:23.220 everything. I mean, my dog doesn't care about the galaxies around us, but we do. We want to

01:31:29.080 know what's beyond the universe. So I think God gave us a curiosity for a reason. He really does

01:31:35.860 want us to explore, but I think he also wants us to do it in the most efficient and effective way

01:31:41.980 possible. So a lot of people, and maybe you can help on this, a lot of people say we never even

01:31:49.320 went to the moon the first time i find that amazing but people actually believe it and they

01:31:54.600 say you know it's because this radiation belt we can't get through the radiation belt and all this

01:31:58.460 stuff um did we go to the moon and does it matter i actually got to watch the moon landing live on

01:32:06.180 television uh when i was much younger and what really thrilled me was watching buzz aldrin and

01:32:12.980 Neil Armstrong, putting up a laser reflector.

01:32:16.900 There's now three laser reflectors on the moon.

01:32:20.520 Physicists beam laser beams off them every single day.

01:32:24.600 And it's because of those laser reflectors that the Apollo astronauts put on the moon

01:32:29.260 that we're able to test theories of gravity to agree we've never been able to do before.

01:32:35.340 So somebody put those laser reflectors there.

01:32:40.680 Well, probably aliens.

01:32:42.440 You know, I'm just saying it really it's very frustrating because, you know, there are there there is evidence like the laser.

01:32:52.380 For example, even the vehicles left behind by the astronauts are still there and they're being photographed on a regular basis.

01:33:02.300 So we're going out on Artemis today, and this is to prove that we can live in space.

01:33:11.800 It is to totally change the economy and the way we explore and go to, you know, Mars, et cetera, et cetera.

01:33:23.180 Yet we still have, we're making such advances, and yet we have not explored inner space nearly enough.

01:33:30.520 And we are fighting over things like we never went to moon in the first place.

01:33:35.440 And when I look at the thing about, you know, we never went to the moon, it's the same kind of argument.

01:33:41.800 just with a lot more distance to it that there was no flood and your book noah's flood revisited

01:33:50.760 you are saying you can prove this that there was a flood

01:33:55.720 well the bible tells us that the flood lasted 375 days you know liquid water flows out of the ocean

01:34:06.340 fairly quickly. There had to be a lot of melting ice and snow for the flood to last that long.

01:34:13.980 And during the previous ice age, there were seven really big melt events. So I think one of those

01:34:19.980 melt events explains why the flood lasted that long. But it also puts the flood early enough

01:34:26.500 in human history that the flood can wipe out the entire world of humanity and all their animals

01:34:32.800 without being global and that's the number one reason why people reject the biblical account

01:34:38.180 they think it's speaking about a global flood rather it's speaking about a worldwide flood

01:34:43.740 the world of humanity was wiped out but if you have the event early enough the world of humanity

01:34:50.160 is a local region i mean there weren't humans in north and south america until 16 500 years ago

01:34:58.860 And likewise, Australia wasn't settled until 40,000 to 50,000 years ago.

01:35:04.260 The big major melt events were 47,000 to 85,000 years ago.

01:35:09.240 So I make the argument, in fact, I waited to bring the book out

01:35:12.400 until we really had solid data confirming the events of Genesis 10 and 11.

01:35:18.940 And if you can nail down the dates for that, you've got a good idea of the date for Noah's flood.

01:35:24.760 How did you nail down the dates?

01:35:26.300 well genesis 10 and 11 speak about the great scatterings of humanity i mean genesis 11 we see

01:35:35.380 that humanity is repeating the mistake of what happened before the flood they were staying in

01:35:41.760 one region disobeying god's command to multiply and fill the earth and even built a city in a huge

01:35:48.720 tower so they would not be scattered over the face of the earth and god knew that was a prescription

01:35:55.180 for runaway evil. His plan all along was there'd be multiple nations that would have to compete

01:36:01.340 with one another for citizens, which would act as a check against a government oppressing its

01:36:07.500 citizens. You know, if one nation oppresses too much, they'd get up and leave and go to another

01:36:12.520 nation. And so God forcibly scattered humanity over the face of the earth. And now we got four

01:36:19.240 methods that enable us to give accurate dates for when those happened. The remains of humans,

01:36:26.020 their artifacts, evidence for when they were cooking, because humans can't survive unless

01:36:33.240 they're cooking and preparing their food, and then the genetic models, and they all come in

01:36:38.440 with consistent dates from when those events happened.

01:36:44.140 So, I don't know.

01:36:50.020 I've talked to rabbis before, and in the oral tradition,

01:36:55.020 the Tower of Babel, there's different facets of God, if you will.

01:37:00.320 There's the angry, vengeful God.

01:37:01.780 There is the kind, merciful God.

01:37:03.420 And the one that shows up at the Tower of Babel and scatters is not the angry God.

01:37:10.560 It is the merciful God, knowing that if they can do this, they can do anything.

01:37:15.320 So he is having mercy on us by scattering people and changing their language.

01:37:20.520 Is that the same view of Noah, that it's actually a mercy mission?

01:37:27.820 absolutely because you know humans before the flood had the potential to live past 900 years

01:37:36.900 and it tells us that Adam and Eve had many sons and daughters besides Cain Abel and Seth

01:37:43.760 I mean at a minimum they were having 120 children and all the rest of the couples likewise so when

01:37:51.600 god told adam multiply and fill the earth he could have done it in his own lifespan what stopped that

01:37:58.360 from happening so we see in genesis 4 murder began to run out of control and so i've calculated in

01:38:05.940 my book navigating genesis that the murder rate in the days before the flood for those above 90

01:38:12.260 in other words at least nine out of ten people died as a result of being murdered by their fellow

01:38:19.160 man. Humanity was literally in danger of self-extermination. So God stepped in and prevented

01:38:26.840 humanity from wiping itself out. I have a guest on, I think on Friday, who has done

01:38:34.940 extensive scientific work with some of the best scientific minds, not all believers,

01:38:41.400 on the evidence of Jesus, his life, his death, and his resurrection. That's coming up on Friday

01:38:46.480 show and you've kind of done this i mean really throughout the bible not just noah i mean you

01:38:51.860 have used science to show book of genesis is is true it is the best scientific explanation if you

01:38:59.840 look at it this way of what is true about life and the way we were created and everything else

01:39:06.480 Is there something happening, Hugh, that we are moving more rapidly towards being able to prove things that we've never been able to prove before?

01:39:22.760 Well, what thrills me as a research scientist is that the more we learn about science, the more and more evidence we gain that the Bible is the inspired, inerrant Word of God.

01:39:33.820 So, for example, you have Genesis 1 describing 10 different events of creation, tells us what the chronological order is, gives us details.

01:39:45.760 The book of Job puts in more details as does Psalm 104 and Proverbs 8.

01:39:52.840 But what I've noticed is that it tells us that on day four,

01:39:58.420 you have the atmosphere going from a thick haze to being transparent.

01:40:04.680 And just back in 2018, a team of physicists did an experiment

01:40:10.700 where they took a huge flask, filled it with a known constituent source atmosphere,

01:40:16.120 and then began with no oxygen, then gradually increased the oxygen.

01:40:20.680 and when the oxygen hit 8%, the atmosphere in the class cleared.

01:40:26.300 You could see through it.

01:40:28.300 And likewise, when you have the oxygen in the atmosphere going up to 8%,

01:40:33.860 that's the moment we have large animals appearing on the face of the Earth.

01:40:38.680 Those animals need to see the sun, moon, and stars in the sky

01:40:42.520 in order to regulate their biological clocks.

01:40:45.560 So that's just one example of how a scientific experiment

01:40:49.480 gave us more evidence that the Bible got everything right.

01:40:54.160 Because you and I did a—I mean, we probably spent 90 minutes together, and we did a podcast.

01:40:58.840 And it was one of the most fascinating podcasts I've ever done.

01:41:01.520 And you made the case that it's not just that it's right scientifically, it is right—it's in the right order.

01:41:11.120 If you don't have these things in the right order scientifically, it can't happen.

01:41:16.080 yes it's not just that the descriptions are correct everything is in the correct chronological

01:41:23.880 sequence now i do get pushback from my atheist peers who say wait a minute if you look at it

01:41:31.980 from the perspective of god up in the heavens everything is in the wrong order i say yeah but

01:41:37.680 that's not the frame of reference genesis 1 2 tells us that the spirit of god is hovering over

01:41:44.820 the surface of the waters of the primordial earth, below the clouds, not above the clouds.

01:41:51.440 And from that frame of reference, the 10 events of creation are all in the correct chronological

01:41:56.900 sequence. I saw that at age 17. That was my first clue that this book, the Bible,

01:42:03.560 was different from all the other holy books, that it got all the science right. And that's

01:42:09.000 what motivated me to say, I got to read through the rest of the book. It took me 18 months to get

01:42:14.540 to revelation 22 but when i got there i realized every time the bible speaks about something

01:42:21.160 scientific it gets the science right and often it does so thousands of years ahead of scientists

01:42:28.100 making the actual discoveries is there anything that you feel compelled that people must know

01:42:36.000 well i think what really impressed me as a young astrophysics student

01:42:42.080 was the Bible actually predicting four of the fundamental features of what we call a Big Bang

01:42:48.320 creation model. And not until the 20th century, do any astronomer have a clue that the universe

01:42:55.200 had those characteristics? And it's not just me reading this into the Bible with my 21st century

01:43:01.500 hindsight. Jewish theologians, writing 800, 900, 1,000 years ago, saw the Bible making

01:43:09.460 statements about the universe and they declared the universe must have these features the 20th

01:43:15.600 century we discovered that indeed the universe has a beginning a space-time beginning with laws

01:43:22.040 of physics that don't change where the universe expands from a cosmic creation event and gets

01:43:28.400 progressively colder all that was in the old testament

01:43:31.840 let me just take 10 seconds station id stations i'm going to move the commercial

01:43:39.160 i don't want to stop here give me 10 seconds

01:43:41.100 q um he's an astrophysicist reasons to believe founder senior scholar author of the book noah's

01:43:59.020 flood revisited hew a lot of people are looking at um the world today and they're looking for

01:44:08.640 signs i haven't looked up what that that one comet that is supposedly shooting towards the sun and

01:44:14.840 then coming around and maybe we can see it this uh if it survives the sun we can see a trail of

01:44:21.860 million or tail million miles long something like that do you know anything about that comment and

01:44:26.780 Did it make it through the sun?

01:44:28.840 I don't know, but I've seen some really spectacular comets in my lifetime.

01:44:34.700 I remember seeing one in my graduate school days.

01:44:38.700 It was as big as the moon in the sky, and the tail went back 40 degrees.

01:44:43.920 So, yeah.

01:44:44.380 Wow.

01:44:44.940 If it survives, maybe we'll get a really spectacular sight.

01:44:49.440 So, people are saying that, you know, look for signs, look for signs,

01:44:52.680 Because there's this feeling, even in Islam, that we're headed for something biblical.

01:45:01.480 Do you feel that? Are there signs that we should be looking for in the heavens?

01:45:08.700 Yeah, Jesus told his disciples that he would return the moment that his followers take the good news of salvation through Jesus Christ to all the people groups of the world and make a significant number of disciples amongst all those people groups.

01:45:27.220 So I'm not waiting for the Lord to return.

01:45:30.480 I'm waiting for his people to finish the task that he assigned to them.

01:45:34.600 And I had Ralph Winter, the founder of the U.S. Center for World Mission, in my Sunday class for a number of years.

01:45:43.100 And he wrote a book making the point that Christians today have the wealth, the technology, and the people to complete that commission that Jesus gave us in just one decade.

01:45:55.120 All we lack is the motivation.

01:45:57.380 So my passion is to try to motivate people.

01:46:01.960 Let's get the job done.

01:46:03.220 Because, hey, this universe is a wonderful place, but God has promised to take us to a new creation where it's unbelievably more rewarding and fulfilling than the universe in which we live.

01:46:16.040 So, let's get there.

01:46:18.320 Q, always great to talk to you.

01:46:20.000 Thank you so much.

01:46:21.620 We'll have to post our podcast at glenbeck.com because it's a fascinating podcast.

01:46:25.920 And grab his book, Noah's Flood Revisited.

01:46:28.880 Noah's Flood Revisited.

01:46:30.300 He is a fascinating guy.

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01:48:09.200 I, uh, I'm thinking today, this week is such an amazing week.

01:48:33.760 There is, there's going to be, tonight is going to be a very important night.

01:48:36.980 I think at nine o'clock, the president is going to speak and he's going to speak about what is happening in Iran and our NATO alliance is dicey at best.

01:48:49.980 And already two prime ministers and the head of the EU have already had press conferences about whatever it is the president told them and said, tough times are coming.

01:49:03.120 so we're going to find out tonight artemis launches tonight i remember the the the first

01:49:11.780 real memory of a t-shirt you know you ever have a t-shirt when you were a kid and you were like

01:49:17.260 that was my favorite t-shirt the first real memory of a t-shirt was my apollo 11 t-shirt i had to be

01:49:24.160 maybe no six seven six and oh i wish i had that t-shirt now i would have that t-shirt framed i

01:49:33.320 love that t-shirt it was a white t-shirt had the apollo logo on it i wore it every day

01:49:38.520 uh and i feel like i'm 10 again today because i'm i am right i'm leaving in 25 minutes and we're

01:49:46.940 flying to uh nasa we have we're lucky enough because the traffic there are hundreds of thousands

01:49:53.540 of people on the so we're we're allowed to land at nasa and i'm going to be there for the launch

01:49:58.680 tonight i just can't wait uh and then we're flying right back home afterwards and i'll be here

01:50:04.920 tomorrow so there's the good and the bad i've got a great monologue on this tomorrow i want to share

01:50:12.120 with you but there's a good and the bad the things that are going on that are just so horrible and

01:50:17.020 then other things that are so good and i keep being pulled to good and i have always spent time

01:50:25.300 uh on good friday telling you this is an important day an important weekend of easter

01:50:34.420 has it changed my life but every day i have come in and i've been reading my scriptures every day

01:50:40.980 about what's happening on this day, 2,000 years ago.

01:50:46.520 What was happening?

01:50:48.900 On Sunday, we know it was Palm Sunday, he comes in on a donkey,

01:50:52.400 and that is a miracle because it is the fulfillment of prophecy.

01:50:58.480 And then you see him weeping over Jerusalem, signaling Jerusalem's going to be destroyed.

01:51:07.320 and monday he went in if this was in real time and i was a journalist back then i say you know

01:51:13.700 there's some trouble at the temple uh on monday this guy's causing all kinds of problems he was

01:51:19.240 at the temple he drove out the money changers from the temple and then he healed a blind guy

01:51:24.820 and a lame guy and if i were a if i were a broadcaster at the time i would give you perspective

01:51:32.800 and say it's interesting he cleans he gives judgment and cleans it out and then he immediately

01:51:39.500 shows mercy and he heals yesterday this guy was talking about some fig tree

01:51:45.100 and he was teaching and confronting people again and the fig tree and then

01:51:54.080 And then he withers this fig tree.

01:52:00.100 He curses this fig tree.

01:52:04.140 And by yesterday, it was completely withered.

01:52:09.920 He says it has something to do with our religion, meaning nothing.

01:52:14.940 But today is going to be a pretty quiet day.

01:52:18.260 At the end of the day, I would, back in those days, broadcast to you that nothing really happened today.

01:52:23.180 But something probably happened that was really, really important.

01:52:30.760 Today is the day, most likely, that Judas made up his mind.

01:52:42.400 It's a couple of days. It's Wednesday.

01:52:45.260 Jerusalem has pilgrims everywhere.

01:52:47.640 The street is louder than usual.

01:52:49.280 uh everybody is is having a conversation about you know what this means this week people can

01:52:59.620 feel something coming even if they can't name it and right in the middle of it all the story goes

01:53:05.460 quiet jesus has been arguing in the temple but now he's withdrawn and he's he's deliberate he's still

01:53:12.720 Judas is doing something

01:53:16.660 at the same time in rooms that most people will never see

01:53:22.520 the religious authorities are finalizing

01:53:24.780 what they have been moving toward

01:53:26.960 the end, quietly, before the crowd can react

01:53:29.940 and Judas comes in and he doesn't stumble into betrayal

01:53:33.800 he walks right into it

01:53:35.320 he seeks them out, he names his price

01:53:38.080 30 pieces of silver, it's a transaction

01:53:40.380 a signature without ink

01:53:42.640 And just like that, the outcome is set.

01:53:47.620 There's no cross yet.

01:53:50.700 There's no denial.

01:53:53.220 But it's already done.

01:53:55.360 And that's the part we miss.

01:53:56.960 It was already done today.

01:54:00.520 It's just the spectacle that's left.

01:54:02.840 The arrest, the trial.

01:54:04.660 Tomorrow will be the Last Supper.

01:54:07.560 He'll wash the feet of Judas.

01:54:11.900 but the decisive moment doesn't happen under the lights.

01:54:16.660 It happens quietly in the dark because that's the way it always works.

01:54:22.100 And that's,

01:54:22.580 that's what I want to talk to you about.

01:54:24.200 The moments that define us is almost never the moment that you see coming.

01:54:31.100 And when it does,

01:54:32.580 there's no time to become somebody new.

01:54:35.800 You don't rise to the occasion.

01:54:38.840 You,

01:54:40.040 an old saying,

01:54:41.040 You don't rise to the occasion.

01:54:42.220 You fall to the level of your preparation.

01:54:47.420 That's today.

01:54:50.080 Everyone is making a decision.

01:54:52.620 Today, Wednesday, it was done.

01:54:57.500 The authorities, they chose power over truth.

01:55:02.080 Judas chose silver over loyalty.

01:55:04.820 And Jesus chose his path.

01:55:08.420 He knew he would already walk.

01:55:09.780 There was no hesitation in him when the moment comes, because the decision wasn't made in the garden.

01:55:15.820 It had been made long before, and that's the through line for all of us.

01:55:21.260 Two days before Passover, back then, today is Passover, it begins tonight.

01:55:25.040 But back then, two days before Passover, it's not about what happened publicly.

01:55:29.540 It's what was settled privately, because by the time the crisis arrives, by the time the torches are lit,

01:55:36.060 By the time the crowd is shouting, there is no debate left.

01:55:40.120 There's none.

01:55:41.640 Only revelation.

01:55:43.820 And that's not just their story back then.

01:55:46.380 That's our story.

01:55:49.040 Every single day feels ordinary.

01:55:53.000 Right?

01:55:53.920 It's just another day.

01:55:55.700 But it's not.

01:55:57.220 It's not.

01:55:59.120 Today is a rehearsal.

01:56:01.940 Today is the day that you have to decide,

01:56:04.740 what do I actually believe in? What am I willing to lose? Where is my line? Is there something

01:56:14.380 that could happen where I say, no more, no more? I don't care what the cost is, no more.

01:56:20.340 Because if you don't decide now, when you're calm, when you're quiet, when it's unnoticed,

01:56:26.660 you will decide it later when you're afraid, when you're rushed, when you're under pressure.

01:56:32.060 And that version of you is not going to be your best self.

01:56:36.460 It will be your default.

01:56:38.960 It's that moment of hesitation.

01:56:40.340 I said this last week.

01:56:41.380 It's that moment of when somebody asks you and you know, it's not right.

01:56:45.160 And they're like, Hey, you want to come out and go do whatever.

01:56:47.460 And you're like, ah, that when you're saying, ah, that's when somebody was like, come on.

01:56:55.100 Okay.

01:56:56.920 It's too late to make the decision when you're going, ah.

01:57:02.060 Two days before Passover, the world had no idea what was coming,

01:57:05.680 but the outcome had already been chosen.

01:57:12.600 It had been chosen in the quiet when no one was watching,

01:57:15.780 where it always, always happens.

01:57:22.000 I don't know what's coming tonight.

01:57:24.700 Hopefully we are going to see a liftoff

01:57:27.660 that will help us believe in the greatness

01:57:31.580 of what we can do again.

01:57:35.960 I'm followed by possibly the president

01:57:39.040 telling us good news or really bad news.

01:57:41.660 I don't know.

01:57:46.360 I don't know what tomorrow brings.

01:57:49.200 I don't have a great feeling about all of it.

01:57:54.180 But I know he's in charge.

01:57:55.860 And I know I don't want to get lost.

01:58:01.920 And so while we're here on this Wednesday, this all-important Wednesday, look for the patterns.

01:58:09.260 This is the day the decisions were made, and it was quiet.

01:58:16.440 Today, make the decision on who you are, what you believe, what you're willing to stand for,

01:58:24.180 what's worth living for

01:58:26.280 who you really are

01:58:29.580 when times get tough

01:58:31.060 because that's what all the prime ministers

01:58:33.980 are telling their people

01:58:34.840 times that are coming

01:58:35.860 are going to be very very tough

01:58:37.140 it's going to be hard to get through

01:58:38.300 I don't know if that's the message

01:58:40.400 our president's going to give

01:58:41.540 but that's the message I'm giving you

01:58:44.520 it's going to be tough

01:58:45.760 but you know what

01:58:46.900 it's going to be glorious in the end

01:58:48.280 you think going to space is easy

01:58:51.020 it's impossible

01:58:52.280 But watch tonight. It's going to be glorious. And that's what man can do.

01:59:00.820 Watch what God's about to do.

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02:01:13.360 glenn.com coming up in just a minute. I am going to check in with Jason, uh, because there is so

02:01:19.300 much going on. The president is in front of the Supreme court right now. First president to ever

02:01:24.400 sit in front of the Supreme court and just listen to a court case, a birthright citizenship case,

02:01:30.380 but that's not even the biggest deal there the what's happening with iran is remarkable and i

02:01:37.100 don't know which way this leans um but we'll get that update when we come back stand by

02:01:42.840 well now that you got that metal picture in your head glenn beck will be right back

02:02:00.380 wow today if you're a torch insider i think you got your money's worth and then some um jason

02:02:14.840 what did you cover in depth that we just did i just did not have time to cover today

02:02:20.820 oh my gosh give me the latest you know give me the latest on iran first what do you think's

02:02:26.700 coming tonight those are the breadcrumbs we've been trying to follow and what they're going what

02:02:30.580 the president's going to talk about on radio i'm sorry with his uh with a statement tonight we look

02:02:35.420 he made a statement a couple of hours ago uh this is directly from the white house where he said

02:02:40.900 that he's actually talking directly with the president of iran and that the president of iran

02:02:46.280 has asked for a ceasefire i thought that was very interesting because not too long after that there

02:02:52.800 was another report from Iranian foreign minister saying this is false we're not dealing with them

02:02:57.980 so either they don't either there are parts that they're they're so discombobulated they don't even

02:03:03.800 know who's talking to who or what but we also know that again just a couple of hours ago

02:03:09.620 Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared that Iran no longer poses an existential threat

02:03:16.140 to Israel. So the signs seem to be pointing towards a winding down if they agree to open

02:03:23.000 the Straits of Hormuz. I just saw this also, Glenn. This is from the Wall Street Journal's

02:03:27.760 Alex Ward. He said that Trump has raised with Rubio and top aides the possibility of withdrawing

02:03:33.500 from NATO if allies don't help reopen the Strait of Hormuz. That's a second big clue, I guess,

02:03:40.240 because this could be a test. This could be if they decide to open the Strait of Hormuz and

02:03:45.180 maybe turn over security of it to an outside force,

02:03:48.740 it's possible the Trump administration has been in contact with the UK,

02:03:52.980 other European nations on them stepping up their military commitments to doing that.

02:03:59.980 And that would have preempted them coming out and saying,

02:04:02.440 this is going to be a long road, get ready for changes.

02:04:06.340 So tea leaves are going to show that.

02:04:08.020 I mean, if those tea leaves turn out to be the actual tea,

02:04:12.880 that is a reason to celebrate look at what he's done he's finished the war he's taken away the

02:04:18.940 threat um he's then passed the torch we're not going to be i'm telling you he's going to take

02:04:24.140 karg island we are not we're not letting that go um he's passed the torch to others in the area

02:04:31.160 and the rest of the allies said you want to keep your oil flowing we'll keep ours flowing you keep

02:04:35.480 yours so that burden is off of our shoulders uh he's passed it just exactly like i said this is

02:04:42.240 very hopeful thinking but just as i said at the very beginning he's trying to pass the torch back

02:04:47.840 to others saying we're not going to be the guarantor of all of this stuff anymore you have

02:04:52.540 to step up we'll guarantee ours you guarantee yours um that could be massive if that's the

02:04:59.700 the road we're going down tonight trump is a producer and a good producer knows how to come

02:05:04.680 up with a grand finale you would think the artemis 2 launch if successful would be the grand finale

02:05:09.780 our producer president

02:05:11.880 if the tea leaves

02:05:14.060 like Jason indicated

02:05:14.940 are right

02:05:15.380 could give us

02:05:16.220 some great news

02:05:16.840 and a bigger

02:05:17.480 grand finale

02:05:18.240 we could ever ask for

02:05:19.140 I mean if that

02:05:20.240 happens tonight

02:05:21.100 and Artemis

02:05:22.200 takes off

02:05:23.180 what a day

02:05:25.560 for America

02:05:26.680 we should dance

02:05:27.800 I mean I wish

02:05:28.780 we had a song

02:05:29.460 that was about

02:05:30.120 Swalwell

02:05:31.640 and Fang Fang

02:05:32.840 I mean it's

02:05:34.540 oh we have one

02:05:36.400 crank it

02:05:37.580 we'll see you tomorrow

02:05:39.780 We'll be right back.

The Glenn Beck Program - April 01, 2026

HOLD YOUR BREATH： Trump’s Iran Speech & Artemis II Launch ... ｜ Guests： Butch Wilmore & Hugh Ross ｜ 4⧸1⧸26

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