On this episode of The Glenn Beck Program, Glenn talks about the latest in the Trump/Russia scandal, and why you should not get a lawyer if you don't need one. Glenn also talks about NATO and why it's time to wake up and wake up NATO.
00:03:32.400But there were some things that I wish he would have said.
00:03:35.080And so I'm going to say them because there's some things that I really want to say to Europe and NATO that I've wanted to say for a very, very long time.
00:08:25.860When Russia moved again, America stepped in again.
00:08:32.020Recently, we spent political capital at home against the will of the American people.
00:08:38.780None of us wanted to be involved in Ukraine.
00:08:40.580We still can't figure out how that's our war, okay?
00:08:43.140but we sent billions upon billions upon billions of dollars in aid, more than you did,
00:08:51.020weapons, intelligence, logistics, support. We spent our treasure in the illusion that we were
00:08:58.700partners. But I guess in some ways we were partners. I mean, I guess, I mean, we spent
00:09:05.980billions of dollars so the Ukrainian elite could buy Italy's Ferraris. So Paris could sell its
00:09:12.580beloved couture so Monaco could rake in the dollars on its gaming tables. You're welcome,
00:09:19.000Europe. And in a moment of our own insanity, we actually paid the pension for the Ukrainian
00:09:26.520government workers. We put ourselves deeper in debt for your security and our hypothetical
00:09:35.460political security. Okay. How is this a problem for America?
00:09:41.640But I want to thank you for thanking us so much and repaying. Oh no, no. Just like always,
00:09:46.320you never repay us, at least not in cash. Instead, you take our hard earned money from American
00:09:52.780taxpayers and you squander it. We can do that ourselves. Quite frankly, we're pretty good at
00:09:58.340it. We don't need you to help us. We, you know, also something that really bothers me, we seem
00:10:03.800to worry more about the rapes of your own daughters and mothers and sisters on the streets
00:10:09.800of Ukraine and Denmark and Norway and Great Britain and France than your governments do?
00:10:16.180Why do we care more about that than your government does?
00:10:21.480Maybe it's because your government believes that the American cash machine is always going to be
00:10:27.120there, and they think you're dumb enough just to allow them to continue to buy your vote.
00:10:32.280but you're not that dumb and neither are we you know we wonder why they should care about who's
00:10:41.120raping your citizens when it seems at least they're so busy raping the american people
00:10:47.360we have hemorrhaged treasure in ukraine a country that honestly means nothing to our national
00:10:55.380security in my opinion but everything to yours and we did it not because it was popular at home
00:11:02.000it's because apparently we still believe perhaps stubbornly in the idea that the west stood
00:11:09.160together on something that we were all together trying to fight the bad guys the bullies the
00:11:14.640bloodthirsty but let's be honest about what together actually has become to mean America
00:11:22.520spends you hesitate America deploys you debate America warns you delay or just walk right
00:11:30.260through it. And then when the American people hire somebody, Donald Trump, who will actually
00:11:36.760say what you're all thinking in your own countries and point to the problems and then try to solve
00:11:42.800them in our country, the criticism comes back from your leaders that America is rude. Yep,
00:11:50.360we are. Sorry, we don't have tea in the afternoon. America is brash. Yep, that's what got us over
00:11:57.740here and made us cross the mountains. Now it's America is somehow the problem. No, no, no,
00:12:03.600no, not going to stand for that. We're not the problem. The problem is this, a partnership where
00:12:10.000one side carries the weight indefinitely. That's not a partnership. That's a, oh, it's a very
00:12:16.580special alliance, but one we shouldn't be in. Alliances are tested in moments that cost both
00:12:24.260something. And recently, when the stakes were not theoretical, when the stakes were immediate,
00:12:33.420you couldn't even grant the United States, your special alliance, something that would have cost
00:12:40.100you nothing, nothing. When the moment comes that requires a smidge of clarity and courage,
00:12:48.600you couldn't even agree to open your own airspace to the very ally that has carried your burden for
00:12:56.360decades. We didn't ask you for troops. We didn't ask you for treasure. We asked if our planes
00:13:03.700could borrow your sky for a few minutes. Sky that would have allowed us to strike the future
00:13:12.100capability of nuclear-tipped missiles, missiles that have pointed north instead of elsewhere,
00:13:19.200would have reached your cities, your capital, your people. And your leaders have the balls to say,
00:13:26.720that threat wasn't real. Really? Really? Ask Mr. Starmer to explain the missile that Iran
00:13:33.740launched at us that traveled 4 000 miles gee i could have hit paris france but it didn't so it
00:13:42.920must not exist and while we're here speaking plainly let's talk about oil for a second
00:13:48.080because donald trump said go get your own oil and this is one american that says yeah yeah and i like
00:13:53.820europe i really like europe but i am sick and tired of this for decades you have enjoyed energy
00:14:02.980that was cheaper i mean not cheaper than here because you're most of your money it's all in
00:14:08.240taxes but you're you have cheaper oil than you do now why not because of smart policy but because
00:14:16.200the united effing states navy patrolled the sea lanes who was it that shot the somali pirates in
00:14:25.380the head. You guys or us? Who confronted the terrorists in the Strait of Hormuz? You or us?
00:14:33.080We absorb the cost of keeping global trade flowing so your economy can run without interruption.
00:14:41.600That stability is not free, gang. It was paid for in American ships, American lives,
00:14:47.780and American dollars. So yes, yes, your gasoline, your petrol is going to cost you more now
00:14:54.860because of the short-sighted politicians and you know it you're not with them you know it
00:15:01.180and by the way you think your fuel costs are high now most of that cost is tax so they can
00:15:08.040house and feed and care for the very extremists that came to destroy you remember NATO was to
00:15:15.860stop anyone who was trying to destroy the west you're importing them as are we but we're at
00:15:22.400trying to wake up and stop it by the way wait until you see what your taxes do now that you
00:15:28.280actually have to raise an army to protect yourself if you even have a natural enough
00:15:34.040natural born citizens that still believe your country is worth fighting for ask germany how
00:15:39.180that's working out we're cousins it doesn't have to be this way
00:15:49.460but your politicians chose to slap your partner across the face while still expecting us to guard
00:15:57.820your front door your back door and all your windows and we understand why you and i both know
00:16:05.380many of your cities are now dealing with some with something your leaders are unwilling to name
00:16:12.220because they're chicken this is an ideology that doesn't believe in the west doesn't believe in
00:16:18.780your values doesn't believe in your civilization it doesn't believe it should even endure or be
00:16:23.720there at all it's the same ideology that we are now confronting directly openly in iran
00:16:30.820and your leaders hesitate not because they don't see it but because they fear what it means to
00:16:37.300admit it but you know what denial doesn't neutralize the danger it invites it so europe
00:16:44.880here's where at least this america american stands we are not walking away from the world
00:16:51.400we like you we want to have a relationship with you but we are so done pretending that an alliance
00:16:58.480is healthy when it's all one-sided where we're always paying the bill we're done pretending
00:17:05.600that friendship requires silence real real friendship real relationship says you got a
00:17:12.000problem, dude. You got to solve this. We're trying to help you. And we are done pretending that
00:17:18.620reality can be negotiated. This American says it's time for America because we're in a bad
00:17:25.200situation too. We need to defend our interests. We will confront threats as we see them. And we
00:17:32.840will write our future deliberately, defiantly, maybe a little roughly at times. But with the
00:17:39.660belief that tomorrow is not to be feared. It's something to build. And honestly, truly, truly,
00:17:47.180I pray that you will get politicians that will stand with us in that work.
00:17:55.160But understand this, if you continue to refuse to look into the mirror, if you refuse to name
00:18:01.240what's happening within your own borders, if you continue to depend on others while resenting them
00:18:06.420for it. The story we once wrote together, page by page, sacrifice by sacrifice, it's not going to
00:18:13.560end in triumph for you. It will have you ending as a cautionary tale. But make no mistake,
00:18:25.240while you're forced to put your pen down, America will keep writing. More in a minute.
00:18:37.420Your home is your sanctuary, the place you've come back to at the end of the day where your family is supposed to be safe, where everything outside stays outside, and where you can finally let your guard down.
00:18:47.500But the hard truth is there are people out there who don't respect that.
00:18:51.820People have no problem crossing that line, breaking in, taking advantage of the moment, you know, when you're not ready.
00:18:58.560And that's not something you want to leave to chance.
00:35:24.860So yesterday, I was able to listen to pieces of it.
00:35:28.220I read a bunch of the summaries late night when I got back in the hotel room,
00:35:31.820and, yeah, very discouraging about some of the line of questioning
00:35:34.420by the Chief Justice, by Amy Coney Barrett, and some others.
00:35:37.480Look, I remain hopeful that common sense will prevail.
00:35:39.960I wish the solicitor had been a little bit harder core in fundamental core arguments about the 14th Amendment and the interpretation of it.
00:35:47.900It is absolutely insane to tell me that under the logical conclusion of, quote, birthright citizenship as it's currently interpreted,
00:35:55.220that 20 million Chinese communist mothers can come to America tomorrow, deliver 20 million babies, and you have 20 million citizens.
00:36:03.040That is ridiculous, just facially ridiculous.
00:36:06.040The 14th Amendment does not stand for that.
00:36:07.780A subject of jurisdiction thereof was a very understood term at the time, and that whole thing was designed to deal with the issue of, obviously, the post-slavery universe in which we needed to deal with how we treat those human beings.
00:36:21.400But it was not meant for everybody under the sun to come to America, have a baby, and become a citizen.
00:36:28.400We filed a lot of really good amicus briefs.
00:36:30.240I led one with my good friend Chuck Cooper.
00:36:32.040I was proud that my work was cited yesterday in the courtroom when Chief Justice Roberts asked
00:36:38.040the solicitor, hey, what do you have on this birth tourism stuff? He said, look, 19 congressmen
00:36:43.420sent a letter. I led that effort along with Tom Tiffany to say, look, birth tourism is a real
00:36:48.500problem. Here's what we understand is the background and the date on it. And I'm glad
00:36:53.260that my work was cited. But you know what? That doesn't matter if we don't win. We've got to win
00:36:56.540this stuff. And look, I hope, again, logical prevail, but we'll just have to wait and see
00:37:00.740what the court does but as attorney general i'm going to continue to fight and we'll continue to
00:37:04.740litigate this issue if they don't do the right thing there's more angles to pursue uh but it
00:37:09.620just defies common sense that we would allow that to proceed okay chip i got it i mean the the whole
00:37:15.440thing yesterday with iran um you know where we're headed on that while we can't seem to fund dhs we
00:37:22.780You're not passing, you know, the Save America Act.
00:37:25.520I mean, we are if we if we lose the next two elections, the the Congress and the Senate, possibly, and the presidential election, everything Donald Trump has done is over because Congress didn't codify any of this stuff.
00:39:44.560We have people in this country who are not supposed to be here, and we've got to deliver.
00:39:47.880And by the way, on Iran, look, my message on that has been pretty clear.
00:39:51.640Take out the conventional stuff, the nuclear stuff, but I don't want boots on the ground, and I don't want blank checks.
00:39:56.840I'm not signing up for continued conflict.
00:40:00.380Make sure that we stand up for our interests.
00:40:02.140I support the president doing that, but I've told my colleagues, do not see this as an excuse to fund the war machine in Washington.
00:40:08.360and as attorney general i'm going to stand up for all of those things in court as a lawyer he's done
00:40:13.500the job god bless you glenn thank you by the way this is the week for our lord and risen savior
00:40:17.860jesus christ god bless you all and thanks for having me on thank you very much chip roy.com
00:40:23.360chip roy.com we'll find out more about his race as texas attorney general chip roy.com all right
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00:41:28.560So, I was eight when Charlie Duke, the astronaut, walked on the moon, and I remember watching
00:41:55.260him in class walk on the moon in the early color and black and white uh images from the moon
00:42:02.700uh was it all fake well charlie joins us here in just a second stand by
00:42:07.760you know the founders had a really simple idea about freedom they believed it wasn't something
00:42:16.220you just enjoy it was something you maintain responsible citizens are prepared they think
00:42:22.920ahead they don't wait until the problem is right in front of them to start figuring out
00:42:26.880gee what should we have done somewhere along the way we've gotten a little ways from that
00:42:33.120we've gotten used to convenience to assuming that it'll always be there when we need it but it might
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00:45:39.920some people have all the energy all the time no matter you know if they slept like a rock
00:45:44.680uh all night or if they were up for half of it i don't know how our president does it
00:45:48.900i mean i think people that can go and go and go and go and go without rest i think they're
00:45:54.000psychopaths but that's just me it's just me i mean except for the president um the rest of us
00:45:58.920we need a good night's sleep it's not optional the difference between day you know in a day where
00:46:03.700you are sharp and focused and actually getting things done and a day where you're just trying
00:46:07.740to keep you know counting the hours until you can try to go back to bed and go to sleep and then you
00:46:12.080can't sleep oh my gosh the difference is night and day good sleep you have to have it that's what
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00:46:48.420retired nasa astronaut youngest person to walk on the moon and charlie i don't know if i ever
00:46:53.600told you this you are the guy i remember as an eight-year-old kid watching walk on the moon i
00:47:00.140don't remember the moon landing but i remember sitting in class watching you uh uh walk on the
00:47:07.020walk on the moon and drive the lunar rover and and everything else so thank you for those memories
00:47:11.960well thank you very much that was apollo 16 with john young we had a great time
00:47:17.500and you were you were up there you know i saw let me really start here charlie
00:47:23.240you went up there for 71 hours um you did something that i think only what 19 astronauts
00:47:31.380have ever done and that is stand on the face of the moon and there are so many people that say
00:47:35.740we didn't go and yesterday as i was covering the the launch and posting things i was astounded
00:47:42.580at the number of people that said one of two things this is a hoax we never went or this is
00:47:50.660such a waste of money and and you know we were in a race to get to the moon and it was a lot about
00:47:59.480national pride back in the 60s and the 70s we were trying to beat the russians but we got a
00:48:05.720lot of things out of it but this time going back and staying there is entirely different it is
00:48:13.680good for america is it not i think so uh certainly uh you know after so long it's uh
00:48:21.740good to go back uh the knowledge that we gained from the moon from apollo has been extraordinary
00:48:29.200600 piles of moon rocks, all experiments we left up there that have been operating.
00:48:35.480They've operated for about four or five years.
00:48:38.460And then NASA finally had so much data, they shut them off.
00:48:41.460But the evidence is overwhelming that we really did land on the moon.
00:48:48.780And so I think going back again, eventually a land like this time on the South Pole will be extraordinary beneficial for us to see the terrain down there and the possibility of liquid of some sort down on the South Pole region.
00:49:12.980We're just assuming that that's water, that ice.
00:49:15.340Well, years ago, we sent a satellite into, it crashed into the moon, and it was followed by another one that took some sort of experimental package, and the debris that came out was analyzed, and it looked like water vapor, I guess, to them.
00:49:38.100And so the supposition is if there is water on the moon, it's at the South Pole frozen as ice.
00:49:48.320So we're going to go down and see eventually and land down there.
00:49:53.820If that's true, that means we can make oxygen, right?
00:50:01.680Well, yeah, to build a moon base is, I think, one of the plans in the future, and probably down there at the South Pole, the sun angle is low most of the time, about two degrees above the horizon.
00:50:20.540So you get deep shadows, but you get real bright sunlight as the moon turns around once every 28 days.
00:50:34.120So anyway, I think that's where we're planning on landing.
00:50:39.120And eventually, I think it's a good idea to build a moon base up there
00:50:45.720and start seeing how we can use some of the resources that are on the moon
00:55:09.560And fortunately, with the lunar module, we could get them back on the lunar module.
00:55:13.500But that was a major work of mission control who saved the day.
00:55:19.220So when you went up, you didn't circle the Earth for a full day.
00:55:23.420Right now, they're not headed towards the moon.
00:55:26.000They're orbiting right now for 24 hours where they're just checking all of the systems to make sure nothing goes wrong because it's a new system.
00:55:41.440But then on the way to the moon, what is that like headed for five days, just going to the moon?
00:55:51.640Well, uh, we orbited for, uh, one and a half revolutions and over Australia, we accelerated to escape velocity and we were on our way.
00:56:01.500Uh, then we had to retrieve the lunar module, uh, uh, after we got out of orbit and, uh, on our way.
00:56:09.680And it was a 72-hour trip was the way it was designed so that we had arrived at the moon at the proper velocity and still have enough fuel to get into orbit and then get out of orbit.
00:56:26.660So that's the way it was designed as a 72-hour trip.
00:56:31.160And if you could get, you can get to the moon in 14 hours, but you're going so fast, you didn't, in Apollo, you didn't have enough fuel to slow down and get in orbit.
00:56:41.820So that's why they shot you out ahead for a 72-hour trip.
00:56:49.460That is, is there any sense of speed in space?
00:56:54.880Not once you get out of orbit, it's not.
00:56:57.280And in Earth orbit, of course, you look down and you're just whizzing across the surface.
00:57:03.220And, you know, you go across the United States in 20 minutes.
00:57:09.340And so you get a very big sensation of motion in orbit.
00:57:16.880But on the way to the moon, you just see the Earth receding and the moon growing.
01:01:16.720It took days that used to be overshadowed with constant pain and turned them into weeks, months, and now years that I've been actually able to enjoy.
01:02:51.360we have the clip and it's uh edited go ahead
01:02:59.100why do you want to be here why do you love space why do you love being a part of history
01:03:07.700we're going back to the moon that's why
01:03:10.560how old is he 12 i don't know but this i saw this kid as you
01:03:20.200you know he's just like a 10 year old version of glenn beck yesterday maybe with less f-bombs but
01:03:25.820bless him i'm sorry i'm sorry that's not a good thing we don't need 10 year old versions of me
01:03:31.220no but jared eisegman actually responded last night and you know all of his spare time and he
01:03:36.920said oh this kid is definitely getting a bag of nasa gear and glenn you know how charitable jared
01:03:43.980is behind the scenes. I do. I, you know, uh, I found some things, uh, about Jared and quite
01:03:51.400honestly, Elon, uh, Musk yesterday, I was sitting in the crowd and we were talking to people that
01:03:57.940were, um, that had built everything. And next to me or right behind me was this couple that had
01:04:05.800nothing to do with the building of it. And they were just normal people. And I started talking
01:04:10.760know how did you get how did you get here they told me the most incredible stories about uh
01:04:17.340isaacman and elon musk that i i don't want to tell you now because i want justice to be done
01:04:24.540to this story these guys will never tell you they don't necessarily want this story to be told
01:04:32.080i'm not going to tell them we're telling it i'll beg for forgiveness after because it is one of the
01:04:37.540We have the greatest brains alive today and some of the best, most feeling, compassionate people that are doing remarkable things for the good of all humanity.
01:04:58.680Leftists are leading the charge to run this country right off a cliff.
01:05:01.540And unfortunately, too many Americans are running right alongside with them because one of the main ways this is happening is through, you know, obvious decisions, but also through less obvious ones, through companies that do business with you.
01:05:13.920There are services that you pay for every single month, and that money gets funneled into causes that you may not agree with.
01:05:19.920Look, the left is getting enough of our money through our taxes.
01:09:34.400and in a way i understand the comments that i saw online some of them
01:09:42.500were just becoming so nasty everybody is just so nasty
01:09:48.820i don't expect you to agree with me on everything and especially something like this
01:09:54.580you know people will see this and they'll say oh geez you know a moon mission and we've done that
01:10:00.820i mean we already have tang we got tang we got velcro we got a microwave oven
01:10:05.580they see something like this and they immediately think of the old nasa they think of nostalgia and
01:10:17.340politics and waste and i understand that but what is happening right now is not 1976
01:10:26.940artemis 2 is not a rerun artemis 2 is a signal and and if you don't if you you may not
01:10:39.320you may not you won't understand this just by feeling it and we are trained to look for patterns
01:10:49.480and we are trained to understand things through history and so you're looking backward but history
01:10:56.400has already turned forward and that's where we need to have a conversation yesterday
01:11:05.100I was trying to figure out how I could frame this historically what I saw last night or yesterday as I was standing there at NASA watching this thing get ready to launch and I thought this is like standing in a field in 1793 and watching Eli Whitney crank up the first cotton gin.
01:11:35.100i'm sure standing in that field you saw that wooden machine you know and it did not look
01:11:43.280necessarily like the future and you're like okay it's wood gears it's moving and it can do this
01:11:50.120but how is this really going to change everything but that cotton gin changed the entire economic
01:11:55.780structure of a nation faster production new markets new dependencies new wealth new conflicts
01:12:03.800new ways to free people the ripple did not just stay in that field and it spread across the entire
01:12:13.460earth that's what you witnessed yesterday you won't know it for years to come all of this is
01:12:22.140will not be appreciated for years yet but you are witnessing one of the greatest times mankind has
01:12:30.080ever witnessed this entire everything that is happening in the world today good and bad you are
01:12:36.800a witness to it and we are at an inflection point when you look at what's happening with the moon
01:12:44.180this is not 1969 anymore apollo apollo 11 was proving that we could go and land and come back
01:12:53.120and this is more than just proving we can stay this is about proving we can stay and build and
01:13:02.220Charlie he was still looking at it from the old NASA that we're going to do experiments
01:13:07.740that's not what this is about the phrase that you are going to hear more and more now
01:13:13.120is the space economy let me translate that in into plain English it means space is no longer
01:13:22.500a destination. It's becoming infrastructure. Right now, if you look at everything, what matters
01:13:29.400to modern life always runs on highways, invisible highways, literal highways, shipping lanes,
01:13:35.640fiber optic cables, energy corridors, airspace, all of this. And the countries and the companies
01:13:42.000that laid those cables and paved those corridors control them. What I want you to do is imagine a
01:13:50.860layer above all of that now launch lanes orbital manufacturing hubs lunar refueling stations
01:13:58.940satellite grids that don't just observe earth but they power it they map it they secure it and
01:14:04.580eventually mine beyond it the moment we can reliably go into space return from space and
01:14:12.520do it again and again cheaply predictably and safely we have just created the next great trade
01:14:19.040network not across oceans but above the oceans which brings me to florida the space coast is
01:14:28.700not just a stretch of land anymore the space coast is quickly going to become the front door
01:14:35.420to the largest port humanity has ever built humans thinking when you hear a port you think
01:14:43.700of a seaport but this you know what we're talking about now seems like so much science fiction that
01:14:50.700it can't be real but it is real the future is now to understand what happened yesterday you need to
01:14:58.060think spaceport ports real ports that's where all wealth has gathered from the history of man
01:15:06.620The beginning of any big civilizational change, it always revolved around ports, Venice, London, New York.
01:15:15.100You control the ports, you control the flow, you control the flow, you control the economy.
01:15:22.660Now ask yourself, what happens when the flow is not goods between continents, but materials between Earth, orbit, and the moon?
01:15:32.640Fuel, rare minerals, manufacturing done in zero gravity, satellite deployment at industrial scale.
01:15:43.120The coastline is no longer beachfront property.
01:17:43.080will secure prosperity for the next hundred years in America.
01:17:47.580And if we don't lead it, someone else will, and they're not going to ask for permission.
01:17:56.160It's also different. It's not NASA doing it.
01:17:59.100Now it is NASA, hopefully going to be eventually reduced to just controlling the port and all of other businesses, building the ships and the astronauts and all of that stuff.
01:18:11.340So we're not paying for all of that. We're actually charging for use of the port.
01:18:16.000But if we don't see this vision now, America is going to be forced to continually beg for permission from some other country.
01:18:27.860As with everything that is happening in the world today, it's a really scary time because everything's about to change.
01:18:35.440But if you can see the future, if you can see over the horizon, you can see the bigger picture,
01:18:40.940Then the only question is, do you believe America should lead that? Do you believe that America should strive to lead it? Are we different? Can we be better than others? Can we set more people free by the free market and our understanding of the free market when it's done ethically?
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01:27:55.420Victor Davis Hanson, a national treasurer.
01:27:59.200It's an honor to have you on again, Victor.
01:28:02.300Can I ask you, I've got to start with, when I heard how ill you were here in the last year, it made my heart race because you are so important and your voice is so important right now.
01:31:10.620That was Obama's seven months of bombing with the French and the British.
01:31:16.620So there's been a lot of things to compare it to,
01:31:19.020and we haven't really reached any of the cost of those wars or the length of those wars.
01:31:24.900And then he wanted to, I guess he wanted to reemphasize his one-off approach,
01:31:30.280kind of a Jacksonian, no better friend, no worse enemy, don't touch us or we'll hit you.
01:31:37.280So he mentioned Soleimani, Baghdadi, he could have mentioned the Wagner group.
01:31:42.220And then when he came back, he mentioned the one-day Venezuela interlude and bombing at last, the 25 to 30-hour bombing attack last summer.
01:31:54.780And what I think he was trying to say is this 30-day intervention, this bombing, is not consistent with these long campaigns of the past, but it's more consistent with these kind of punitive things that he's done that he feels that they came up at the end of negotiations, usually.
01:32:13.580And then he feels that there's an exit strategy.
01:36:44.060and uh the point though is i think trump is saying that given the misadventures in afghanistan
01:36:53.860and iraq with nation building they we have a different paradigm we select people as we did
01:37:00.640in venezuela that we tell them the alternative is poverty bombing and probably your your arrest or
01:37:06.680death or we don't really care what your ideology is or your past we just want you not to be
01:37:12.540ideological, and to run the country efficiently, and to agree at some point to a transition
01:37:19.180government. And then we avoid that we're going to take all of the Maduro regime out, we're going to
01:37:24.420put boots on the ground, we're going to get all the NGOs in, which we know didn't work.
01:37:30.300So I think what he's saying to the Iranians is, I'm not going to negotiate with anybody,
01:37:36.320but what I call pragmatic people are realists. I don't really care what they've done in the past,
01:37:41.700and the Speaker, maybe, or the Parliament, or the President,
01:37:45.080will deal with you, even though they might not, at this point, have real power.
01:37:50.560And then I think the Israelis are going down their list,
01:37:53.900anybody who identifies themselves as...
01:37:56.320And that dynamic of empowering one group who doesn't have power,
01:38:01.940but we're saying we're only going to talk to this group,
01:38:04.000and then the one that says they do, are going to be...
01:38:07.140I mean, I wouldn't want to be one of those people and say,
01:38:09.160I know that it's kind of grotesque what's happening with the car because they're going to be killed.
01:38:17.320So then I think he's setting and then he has not hit yet.
01:38:21.280He says he will, but he hasn't hit communications, roads, sewer, water, electricity, power.
01:38:28.000So he's telling the resistance, you can join these pragmatists and you can have a country.
01:38:33.880We don't really care what the ideology is.
01:38:36.760and then you can transition yourself once we're gone but that depends on i think he thinks three
01:38:43.940more weeks of letting the israelis target these leaders and then three more weeks of
01:38:49.000hitting their installations and i think to weaken them and you really
01:38:52.980so can i ask you when he's playing this you know we don't we just want somebody who will work with
01:39:01.140us um does that is that anything like what we used to do with our cia where we would pick these
01:39:11.760leaders and we'd put them in there because they were good for us is that is that a repeat of that
01:39:17.340kind of philosophy which turned out horribly or is this different i think it's a third choice
01:39:23.620because i don't think that we pick the people in venezuela and i don't think that we pick the
01:39:29.560president what we're saying is if there are people there involved with the present regime
01:39:35.080that we feel could be separated from it and they're already there and the people know them
01:39:42.220and the people think that they have views that are different but though silent because of the
01:39:48.760oppression then we're going to empower them and that's what we did in venezuela and that makes it
01:39:54.640much easier than to have to go in you know we're going to afghanistan i don't i don't think people
01:40:01.760realize that when the left takes over the ngos it's sort of like 19th century british imperialism
01:40:07.920we had george floyd murals in afghanistan we had a pride flag at the embassy we had a gender
01:40:13.680studies program and that was from a traditional islamic society so i just don't think that thing
01:40:20.620works anymore and i don't think the cia assassinating somebody and putting a pro-american
01:40:26.900dictator is going to work either but does it work if we leave there and the people are not free and
01:40:34.100they are still repressed or are we saying it's up to you we're leaving you we're leaving you with
01:40:40.540enough opportunity but no guarantee we're not doing it for you no that's exactly right and
01:40:47.780And we're not and he can package that by saying we're not doing it for you and we're not telling you how to do it and what to do and what to end up with.
01:40:57.140All we care about is whatever government emerges, whether it's reformed autocrats or whether it's people at work.
01:41:05.880all we're telling you is we do not want you to export export terror kill americans create a bomb
01:41:12.920have a ballistic missile um cleat and subsidize all of these wretched people in hezbollah and
01:41:21.460houthis if you can do that it's up to you just don't do what you're doing now and we're going
01:41:26.360to help you because we've taken a lot of their leaders command and control a lot of their assets
01:41:31.440out and we've humiliated them and they're a paper tiger in the world stage now so it's it's conducive
01:41:37.320for you to step up because you may have a better chance this time and then there's going to be an
01:41:44.040argument of course whether you arm the curves when you give them arms uh if they do rise up
01:41:50.100would american tactical aircraft come in and help them or who knows but i think the major
01:41:56.460military operations are going to be over and i think he's looking at the midterms he's looking
01:42:02.720at the economy and he's looking at what he promised the american people there's going to
01:42:07.960be no forever endless wars or something that's optional military engagements in the middle east
01:42:14.480and he's going to argue that this was not an optional um victor davis hanson um the crooks
01:42:21.160Let me take one minute break, and then I'm going to come right back.
01:42:28.060And I've got one more question on another topic.
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01:56:37.200like actually working with the water ice on the moon we're going to do that in parallel building
01:56:42.280the base so when our astronauts arrive they've got a lot of equipment to work with so can we
01:56:48.160talk about why that's important to have a lot of equipment up there well i mean we've we've never
01:56:55.680uh you know we've never inhabited another celestial body and i'll tell you and this is
01:57:00.300remarkable and you know this of course for more than 25 years there has been a continuous american
01:57:05.580presence in low earth orbit at the international space station so if you're 25 years old or younger
01:57:10.480there hasn't been a time you've been alive on this planet where there weren't american astronauts
01:57:14.620orbiting above you. But if you're going to put astronauts in space and keep them alive,
01:57:19.420the best place to do it is low Earth orbit. You've got the atmosphere and Earth's magnetosphere there
01:57:24.120that protect you from radiation and micrometeoids and orbital debris. But where you want to go next
01:57:29.680is to the surface, the surface, the moon, where you can interact with the regolith. You can build
01:57:34.160habitation. You can cover the habitation with regolith for protection against meteoroids and
01:57:39.100radiation. You can work with the water ice. And if you can work with the water ice on the moon,
01:57:44.080you can make hydrogen, you can make oxygen, and those are key propellants. And why does that
01:57:50.860matter? Because when you send astronauts to Mars someday, you're going to need to make your own
01:57:55.160propellant to come home. Better to prove that out on the moon when you're three days away than on
01:57:59.860Mars when you're nine months away. But we're also, we're not that far ahead of China. I mean,
01:58:06.740Russia's way behind. Other nations are way behind. But I know a lot of nations that do not want to
01:58:12.560do business with china are rushing to us now and saying can we be a part of your space program
01:58:17.480because it's going to be one or the other whoever gets there first is going to get the prime spot
01:58:24.760unless we have you know loaded a lot of boxes in that area um uh and uh the leadership matters
01:58:33.520does it not it does matter and i'll tell you that's that's changed under this uh under this
01:58:39.300administration you know and under the prior administration you'd be shocked but a lot of
01:58:43.360our international partners were actually considering and having discussions with the
01:58:48.060chinese because they thought america's space program has lost its way that's changing now
01:58:53.880we have it would we have launched it would we have launched yesterday had trump not and i don't
01:59:00.400want to make that because it's impossible for you to answer this about you but if he hadn't have
01:59:04.440made it possible for you to go in and you make the changes that needed to be made in the last year
01:59:10.840would we have launched yesterday well i'll be very honest with you i uh artemis 2 for sure
01:59:16.740would have launched at some point this year you know almost regardless of who's the president
01:59:22.380the question is would we have an achievable plan to actually get back to the moon in the next you
01:59:28.560know couple years the answer is no without the president trump's national space policy and
01:59:33.560Without the investments from the one big, beautiful bill, we would not have the mandate or the resources to increase moon rocket production, launch again in 2027.
01:59:42.720That critical risk buy-down mission of rendezvousing the spacecraft with the landers, we would not have had achievable path back to the surface.
01:59:50.920We certainly would not have a moon base.