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00:02:36.500 hello america welcome to the glenn beck program uh

00:02:46.760 i'm just i'm just looking down at msnbc right now as we all do we look down at them uh and uh

00:02:54.600 And the chyron, the thing on the bottom of the screen says, Trump offers few new details.

00:02:59.880 Vague, vague timeline for the...

00:03:02.240 Yeah, you know what happened last night?

00:03:04.380 He was talking to the regular person.

00:03:06.740 He was talking to the average person.

00:03:08.640 He was not talking to news people.

00:03:11.360 He wasn't talking to people like you and me that listen to this all the time and we're tracking it.

00:03:15.780 Last night was, if you were tracking this, you were expecting something new to come out.

00:03:19.740 No, he was making the case to the American people.

00:03:22.380 That's what was happening.

00:03:23.400 He was talking to the average person that, you know, actually has a life and lives their life.

00:03:30.520 You're not talking to people like us.

00:03:32.400 But there were some things that I wish he would have said.

00:03:35.080 And so I'm going to say them because there's some things that I really want to say to Europe and NATO that I've wanted to say for a very, very long time.

00:03:47.540 And I think they should be said.

00:03:49.220 And I hope it goes very, very viral.

00:03:51.020 you know not necessarily here in america but over in europe because it needs to be said and heard

00:03:57.860 we do that in 60 seconds first let me tell you about uh rush um you know the right time to decide

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00:05:05.120 RushTaxResolution.com. All right, so let me just start with basic. What is NATO? What is NATO?

00:05:13.700 Well, there was a time right after the guns fell silent in 1945, and we realized the Atlantic

00:05:19.500 Ocean didn't divide us. It actually binds us. And we had a common enemy. We had fascism and

00:05:27.740 we had communism. And out of the ashes of World War II came this North Atlantic treaty organization,

00:05:34.220 NATO. It wasn't just a military pact, but a promise that we would stand together against

00:05:39.960 tyranny if anybody tried to overrun the West and try to kill Western civilization. Again,

00:05:47.220 we would do that. And because we're like this, we decided we would help repair Europe because

00:05:55.180 you had nothing. It was over for Europe. And so, yes, we're imperfect. Sometimes we're loud.

00:06:01.540 sometimes we're often unrefined but we had a big wallet we opened our wallet we opened our hearts

00:06:08.660 we opened our factories and we we rebuilt Europe okay and we were proud to do it proud to do it

00:06:16.720 but then something happened along the way a couple of things

00:06:20.900 one you just expected us to keep doing it and then two you decided that you were going to be

00:06:30.220 empire builder. 1956, this is when our special alliance really started to fall apart. It was

00:06:36.720 the Suez Canal Crisis. The Suez Crisis, as it's called, Britain and France, alongside with Israel,

00:06:43.640 moved on Egypt, and they just assumed that America was going to fall in line. Well,

00:06:48.740 our president at the time was General Dwight D. Eisenhower, and he was like, no, no, we're not

00:06:55.020 going to get involved in this. In fact, we have to prevent you from doing this, and he didn't do it

00:06:59.420 to weaken Europe. He tried to do it to save Europe. The world was watching, the Cold War was

00:07:05.400 tightening, and the West couldn't look like it was an empire clinging to its past. And that is

00:07:12.780 the moment that the relationship changed. And it should have become a partnership of equals,

00:07:19.380 but it didn't. It just got worse and worse and worse for us. So Europe, let's discuss this

00:07:26.700 special relationship that you're so worried about now. And I want you to know, I'm just one American,

00:07:32.980 I'm speaking for myself, and I actually like Europe, or at least what it was, not what you

00:07:38.900 are becoming. And quite honestly, you might feel the same way about us, and that's fine.

00:07:43.900 But let me at least help you understand where many Americans are coming from.

00:07:48.040 back in the 1980s we continued to pay for your almost your entire defense

00:07:56.000 Ronald Reagan stood before you and warned do not become dependent on Russian energy

00:08:03.160 don't trade short-term comfort for long-term vulnerability he said it plainly and repeatedly 0.87

00:08:10.380 you heard him but what did you do you built pipelines anyway and we were dumb enough to go

00:08:17.480 Well, we're going to continue to defend you while you're doing business with your enemy. 0.58

00:08:22.980 This is when the consequences came.

00:08:25.860 When Russia moved again, America stepped in again. 0.75

00:08:32.020 Recently, we spent political capital at home against the will of the American people.

00:08:38.780 None of us wanted to be involved in Ukraine.

00:08:40.580 We still can't figure out how that's our war, okay?

00:08:43.140 but we sent billions upon billions upon billions of dollars in aid, more than you did,

00:08:51.020 weapons, intelligence, logistics, support. We spent our treasure in the illusion that we were

00:08:58.700 partners. But I guess in some ways we were partners. I mean, I guess, I mean, we spent

00:09:05.980 billions of dollars so the Ukrainian elite could buy Italy's Ferraris. So Paris could sell its 0.87

00:09:12.580 beloved couture so Monaco could rake in the dollars on its gaming tables. You're welcome,

00:09:19.000 Europe. And in a moment of our own insanity, we actually paid the pension for the Ukrainian 1.00

00:09:26.520 government workers. We put ourselves deeper in debt for your security and our hypothetical

00:09:35.460 political security. Okay. How is this a problem for America?

00:09:41.640 But I want to thank you for thanking us so much and repaying. Oh no, no. Just like always,

00:09:46.320 you never repay us, at least not in cash. Instead, you take our hard earned money from American

00:09:52.780 taxpayers and you squander it. We can do that ourselves. Quite frankly, we're pretty good at

00:09:58.340 it. We don't need you to help us. We, you know, also something that really bothers me, we seem

00:10:03.800 to worry more about the rapes of your own daughters and mothers and sisters on the streets

00:10:09.800 of Ukraine and Denmark and Norway and Great Britain and France than your governments do?

00:10:16.180 Why do we care more about that than your government does?

00:10:21.480 Maybe it's because your government believes that the American cash machine is always going to be 0.96

00:10:27.120 there, and they think you're dumb enough just to allow them to continue to buy your vote. 0.98

00:10:32.280 but you're not that dumb and neither are we you know we wonder why they should care about who's 0.99

00:10:41.120 raping your citizens when it seems at least they're so busy raping the american people 0.99

00:10:47.360 we have hemorrhaged treasure in ukraine a country that honestly means nothing to our national 1.00

00:10:55.380 security in my opinion but everything to yours and we did it not because it was popular at home

00:11:02.000 it's because apparently we still believe perhaps stubbornly in the idea that the west stood

00:11:09.160 together on something that we were all together trying to fight the bad guys the bullies the

00:11:14.640 bloodthirsty but let's be honest about what together actually has become to mean America

00:11:22.520 spends you hesitate America deploys you debate America warns you delay or just walk right

00:11:30.260 through it. And then when the American people hire somebody, Donald Trump, who will actually

00:11:36.760 say what you're all thinking in your own countries and point to the problems and then try to solve

00:11:42.800 them in our country, the criticism comes back from your leaders that America is rude. Yep,

00:11:50.360 we are. Sorry, we don't have tea in the afternoon. America is brash. Yep, that's what got us over

00:11:57.740 here and made us cross the mountains. Now it's America is somehow the problem. No, no, no,

00:12:03.600 no, not going to stand for that. We're not the problem. The problem is this, a partnership where

00:12:10.000 one side carries the weight indefinitely. That's not a partnership. That's a, oh, it's a very

00:12:16.580 special alliance, but one we shouldn't be in. Alliances are tested in moments that cost both

00:12:24.260 something. And recently, when the stakes were not theoretical, when the stakes were immediate,

00:12:33.420 you couldn't even grant the United States, your special alliance, something that would have cost

00:12:40.100 you nothing, nothing. When the moment comes that requires a smidge of clarity and courage,

00:12:48.600 you couldn't even agree to open your own airspace to the very ally that has carried your burden for

00:12:56.360 decades. We didn't ask you for troops. We didn't ask you for treasure. We asked if our planes

00:13:03.700 could borrow your sky for a few minutes. Sky that would have allowed us to strike the future

00:13:12.100 capability of nuclear-tipped missiles, missiles that have pointed north instead of elsewhere,

00:13:19.200 would have reached your cities, your capital, your people. And your leaders have the balls to say, 0.94

00:13:26.720 that threat wasn't real. Really? Really? Ask Mr. Starmer to explain the missile that Iran 0.99

00:13:33.740 launched at us that traveled 4 000 miles gee i could have hit paris france but it didn't so it

00:13:42.920 must not exist and while we're here speaking plainly let's talk about oil for a second

00:13:48.080 because donald trump said go get your own oil and this is one american that says yeah yeah and i like

00:13:53.820 europe i really like europe but i am sick and tired of this for decades you have enjoyed energy

00:14:02.980 that was cheaper i mean not cheaper than here because you're most of your money it's all in

00:14:08.240 taxes but you're you have cheaper oil than you do now why not because of smart policy but because

00:14:16.200 the united effing states navy patrolled the sea lanes who was it that shot the somali pirates in

00:14:25.380 the head. You guys or us? Who confronted the terrorists in the Strait of Hormuz? You or us?

00:14:33.080 We absorb the cost of keeping global trade flowing so your economy can run without interruption.

00:14:41.600 That stability is not free, gang. It was paid for in American ships, American lives,

00:14:47.780 and American dollars. So yes, yes, your gasoline, your petrol is going to cost you more now

00:14:54.860 because of the short-sighted politicians and you know it you're not with them you know it

00:15:01.180 and by the way you think your fuel costs are high now most of that cost is tax so they can

00:15:08.040 house and feed and care for the very extremists that came to destroy you remember NATO was to

00:15:15.860 stop anyone who was trying to destroy the west you're importing them as are we but we're at

00:15:22.400 trying to wake up and stop it by the way wait until you see what your taxes do now that you

00:15:28.280 actually have to raise an army to protect yourself if you even have a natural enough

00:15:34.040 natural born citizens that still believe your country is worth fighting for ask germany how

00:15:39.180 that's working out we're cousins it doesn't have to be this way

00:15:49.460 but your politicians chose to slap your partner across the face while still expecting us to guard

00:15:57.820 your front door your back door and all your windows and we understand why you and i both know

00:16:05.380 many of your cities are now dealing with some with something your leaders are unwilling to name

00:16:12.220 because they're chicken this is an ideology that doesn't believe in the west doesn't believe in

00:16:18.780 your values doesn't believe in your civilization it doesn't believe it should even endure or be

00:16:23.720 there at all it's the same ideology that we are now confronting directly openly in iran

00:16:30.820 and your leaders hesitate not because they don't see it but because they fear what it means to

00:16:37.300 admit it but you know what denial doesn't neutralize the danger it invites it so europe

00:16:44.880 here's where at least this america american stands we are not walking away from the world

00:16:51.400 we like you we want to have a relationship with you but we are so done pretending that an alliance

00:16:58.480 is healthy when it's all one-sided where we're always paying the bill we're done pretending

00:17:05.600 that friendship requires silence real real friendship real relationship says you got a

00:17:12.000 problem, dude. You got to solve this. We're trying to help you. And we are done pretending that

00:17:18.620 reality can be negotiated. This American says it's time for America because we're in a bad

00:17:25.200 situation too. We need to defend our interests. We will confront threats as we see them. And we

00:17:32.840 will write our future deliberately, defiantly, maybe a little roughly at times. But with the

00:17:39.660 belief that tomorrow is not to be feared. It's something to build. And honestly, truly, truly,

00:17:47.180 I pray that you will get politicians that will stand with us in that work.

00:17:55.160 But understand this, if you continue to refuse to look into the mirror, if you refuse to name

00:18:01.240 what's happening within your own borders, if you continue to depend on others while resenting them

00:18:06.420 for it. The story we once wrote together, page by page, sacrifice by sacrifice, it's not going to

00:18:13.560 end in triumph for you. It will have you ending as a cautionary tale. But make no mistake,

00:18:25.240 while you're forced to put your pen down, America will keep writing. More in a minute.

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00:19:51.840 Sorry, that might have been a little harsh for the European ears.

00:19:54.860 I loved it, but I could just hear Macron.

00:19:58.560 oh this is not the nato mission we will not be drawn into the conflict let me ask you what is

00:20:05.440 the nato mission the nato mission is not just about russia it is to defend western civilization

00:20:12.900 what is attacking western civilization you can live in the old timey days where you know the

00:20:20.040 russians were your biggest threat it's not your biggest threat your biggest threat are the islamic 1.00

00:20:26.280 nations that want a caliphate who are invading you would never put up with all these russians 1.00

00:20:33.400 coming in and living their russian culture and then living in your town setting up their own 0.73

00:20:38.360 their own little no-go zones you imagine that russians all have their own little no-go zones 0.95

00:20:44.100 all over europe you would tolerate that you wouldn't tolerate that for half a second

00:20:49.200 so so that argument is not good good enough for you no do you have any sympathy for them because

00:20:54.980 you know we started the war they didn't they're afraid they're going to get attacked their oil 0.81

00:21:00.100 prices are increasing yeah i have sympathy i i don't want to pay higher oil prices i don't want

00:21:05.820 to be in this war i don't want to be in this war but we're in it we're in it and this is more of a

00:21:13.680 threat it's a faster threat to them than it is to us you think you you think you have a a case to

00:21:20.340 make, well, we don't know if they were actually a threat and had any missiles. No, they had

00:21:24.740 missiles. They launched one. They had missiles that could hit your capitals, not ours, yours.

00:21:31.520 It's a bigger threat to Europe than it is to us. And by the way, if you want somebody who has 0.65

00:21:38.480 nuclear missiles, who is a terrorist state, getting stronger and stronger, and they control 0.76

00:21:44.720 the choke point they are you think your gas prices are high now can you imagine how high they would

00:21:51.640 be if they had the entire world hostage because they had nuclear weapons and the choke point

00:21:58.180 you may not like the way Donald Trump has handled it but we're not carrying the water so you can be

00:22:05.380 quite frankly pusses sitting around going oh I'm too afraid of my own people that should tell you

00:22:12.120 something that your your country is already lost it's already lost if you can't say anything 0.94

00:22:19.240 because you're afraid your own people or the people you've allowed in your country

00:22:24.260 might set your streets on fire that should tell you something

00:22:28.660 what oh monjeu that's what macron is saying right now i don't even know what that means and i'm

00:22:39.360 proud that I don't know what that

00:22:41.500 means. Is he asking for

00:22:43.480 more of that dipping sauce for French dip?

00:22:45.540 I don't know what au mon jus means.

00:22:47.680 Je ne sais pas.

00:22:49.660 Okay, alright. I'm gonna

00:22:51.520 have to, I think I'm gonna have to fire

00:22:53.400 you today. You know too much French. 1.00

00:22:55.700 Okay, back

00:22:57.300 in just a second with oh

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00:23:04.860 birthright citizenship

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00:23:23.400 Nah, it can never happen.

00:23:25.320 The kind of situation where normal just stops.

00:23:28.940 Normal just stops. Isn't that like 2016?

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00:24:57.480 hello i have uh i have a question for you today uh let's say i go to japan

00:25:09.780 and i have a wallet and somebody takes my wallet uh

00:25:15.900 do i have a contract with japanese people to go find my wallet

00:25:22.720 i i don't understand how works you know i have to tell you in watching the supreme court yesterday

00:25:30.900 and some of their brilliant arguments um i you know i appreciate as a humanitarian i appreciate

00:25:40.280 that we hire the handicap i just don't think we should hire them for that job i mean maybe it's 1.00

00:25:48.140 me but i i got wallet go to japan the japanese people have a contract with me to find my wallet

00:25:55.660 oh my gosh i i mean even when the when the liberal justices are like oh god can somebody

00:26:04.220 shut her up that's a problem that is a deep deep problem who is her i don't know what you're 1.00

00:26:11.300 talking about what are you what are you saying is it are you what Sotomayor no Kagan oh okay it's

00:26:18.520 the other one no what are you saying are you are you wow I didn't I didn't imply any of what

00:26:24.420 she was just implying I got a wallet I'm going to Japan I don't know why why am I in Japan all

00:26:33.820 of a sudden maybe I was there for a sex bot I don't know you also sound like the media yesterday

00:26:38.980 who were super, super concerned about President Trump sitting in.

00:26:45.400 He was there to threaten the justices.

00:26:47.640 Oh my gosh, and they were so threatened by him.

00:26:50.080 Oh, they were so threatened by him.

00:26:52.840 Oh God. 0.95

00:26:54.080 Would you all just shut your pie hole? 0.92

00:26:57.420 Can we actually talk? 0.82

00:26:58.680 Can we stop making everything about politics?

00:27:01.780 Can we please? 0.98

00:27:02.900 When I say a Supreme Court justice might be mentally deficient,

00:27:08.320 uh that's not i'm not saying that because she's a liberal i'm saying because i think she i think

00:27:16.360 a box of shoelaces may be able to have more compute power than she has let's talk about 1.00

00:27:25.040 constitution you have you ever read it for the love of god have you ever read it and the don't

00:27:31.200 even get me started on on roberts what what the hell was justice roberts saying oh the constitution

00:27:38.600 uh is uh is historic and uh it doesn't live in the now necessarily but it doesn't necessarily

00:27:47.240 not live in the now oh what are you talking about you're making my head hurt why do we have birth

00:27:53.740 right citizenship why why did they write that why did they write that they wrote that at a time when

00:28:00.620 people are like yeah the slaves might have been born here it's slaves might have been born here

00:28:06.980 but that doesn't make them American and so what was that written for that was to say yes 0.99

00:28:13.900 slaves are American do you know why that had to be done because the stupid supreme court 0.98

00:28:20.760 had just a few years earlier said no slave can ever be a citizen no slave can ever be a citizen 0.99

00:28:29.120 that wasn't right what are you talking about and so we had to make sure that they had the right

00:28:37.180 it was not it is is the constitution a suicide pact i just want to know

00:28:44.180 is the sue is the constitution a suicide pact because then i understand birthright citizenship

00:28:55.040 then i understand it if you can have people come in from china a sworn enemy and just have babies 0.52

00:29:04.900 and then raise them in china and then bring them over here when they're a voting age so they can 0.96

00:29:10.640 vote in our elections that's a suicide pact okay there's got to be some common sense

00:29:17.600 you know what all of our children all of our 18 000 children were born here and we all believe

00:29:26.000 in sharia law we we've hated this country from the very beginning we came over here so we could 1.00

00:29:32.520 have our 18 000 children uh because we knew that when they grow up they're going to be able to

00:29:38.160 change the course of this country by voting for sharia law that's not what that was for 0.99

00:29:44.060 that's not what that was for you have to apply some common sense occasionally but why would we

00:29:52.980 expect that honestly why would we expect that from anybody on the left and that's not a political

00:30:00.040 comment i don't think there's a lot of common sense no there's some common sense they're just 1.00

00:30:05.680 so stupid and so self-centered they won't even recognize the world we're living in today 1.00

00:30:13.940 That's the GOP, okay? This one on the left, there's no common sense there unless your common 1.00

00:30:21.860 sense is let's destroy America. If that's the thing that unites you, then they're with that

00:30:28.100 plan. Let's destroy America. And then that's the leadership. And then they've taken control of our

00:30:34.640 educational system and our media to take the average person and just put them to sleep.

00:30:41.200 absolutely put him to sleep

00:30:43.500 so you'll actually sit there at home

00:30:47.940 and you'll listen to somebody say

00:30:48.960 and I went to Japan

00:30:50.920 and I got wallet

00:30:53.360 you'll listen to that and go

00:30:57.280 you know what she makes a good point

00:30:58.880 no she doesn't

00:31:00.000 if that was somebody on our side

00:31:03.460 would you accept that as a good

00:31:05.940 valid point

00:31:06.860 no you wouldn't

00:31:09.720 and you know what if they were on my side and they were like i've not got wallet i would be saying 1.00

00:31:14.240 this person is a moron 0.99

00:31:16.260 how can you be so blind to what is going am i alone in this 1.00

00:31:24.680 jason ricky am i alone in this no and actually the the daily wire has an op-ed today that says

00:31:32.440 that katanji brown jackson needs to be impeached she should be how does that how does that process 1.00

00:31:39.140 work and has it ever happened i'm out of my depth i do not know but i could go on the i say but if i

00:31:49.760 had a wallet i would know all of the answers i don't know i'd have to look that up there have

00:31:56.360 been many supreme court justices that should have been impeached just based on you know for instance

00:32:03.500 uh you know a slave can never be a u.s citizen i can't remember the case and it's

00:32:12.480 such a such a very important one everybody else knows the case that they came from

00:32:18.000 uh yeah it was a dread scott dread scott okay that for the love of pete for the love of pete

00:32:28.680 that is that's that that was an abomination back then it's an abomination today and we all know it

00:32:36.960 and and in the dead of night i can wake up anybody if outside if i could get them and wake them out

00:32:44.000 of their political their political sleep to where everybody just kind of is walking in this sleep

00:32:51.080 and then it's like wait what side is on my side on what side my team for this time okay my team's

00:32:56.760 for that then i'm for that too if i could just wake people up in the middle of the night out of

00:33:01.720 that political sleep and say hey should should should people coming from hostile countries 0.55

00:33:09.980 be able to just have babies have tourism to where they have babies over here in america 0.97

00:33:17.300 then raise them in their hostile nation and then when they're 20 send them over here to to vote 0.99

00:33:24.240 everybody would say no that doesn't make any sense at all no sense at all

00:33:31.040 but that's what we're doing that's what we're doing and i'm sorry but

00:33:38.120 that doesn't fly with me is chip roy gonna be on today or is he did we keep being told he's

00:33:44.400 one minute out he's one well i've got two minutes left for him now so if he's not here in one

00:33:51.880 minute he's going to miss because as riveting as one minute would be with chip because it always is

00:33:57.420 we're going to have to pass on this because we are out of minutes for him i don't know jason how is

00:34:04.900 this going to end with the supreme court it did not look good for the side of sanity no it it

00:34:11.800 doesn't look good and i actually i did a really quick search to see if you can impeach a sitting

00:34:16.820 supreme court justice you can it's got to go through the typical impeachment process through

00:34:21.060 the house than the senate but you it had but the only thing i see that is the stipulation is for

00:34:25.440 treason bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors i propose to add in another clause 0.62

00:34:30.560 to there also after high crimes and misdemeanors also being dumber than a box of shoelaces that i

00:34:36.840 think we might be here i would like to call that the i got a wallet clause

00:34:41.940 are you impeaching her uh we're impeaching her on the i got a wallet clause chip we're almost

00:34:50.020 out of time uh let me come to you thanks for joining i know you're wildly busy today can you

00:34:55.460 just give us the rundown on the i've got a wallet in japan stuff yesterday is this it looks like

00:35:02.460 it looks like this supreme court is going to go go for birthright citizenship which is suicide

00:35:09.600 well glenn great to be on sorry i'm a little bit late you're right i'm on the campaign trails you

00:35:15.340 running for attorney general across Texas, so bottom line here is on me.

00:35:19.480 You got that in.

00:35:20.060 You got that in.

00:35:20.700 Good for you.

00:35:21.740 All right.

00:35:22.220 Go ahead.

00:35:22.680 Yeah, you got to squeeze it in.

00:35:24.860 So yesterday, I was able to listen to pieces of it.

00:35:28.220 I read a bunch of the summaries late night when I got back in the hotel room,

00:35:31.820 and, yeah, very discouraging about some of the line of questioning

00:35:34.420 by the Chief Justice, by Amy Coney Barrett, and some others.

00:35:37.480 Look, I remain hopeful that common sense will prevail.

00:35:39.960 I wish the solicitor had been a little bit harder core in fundamental core arguments about the 14th Amendment and the interpretation of it.

00:35:47.900 It is absolutely insane to tell me that under the logical conclusion of, quote, birthright citizenship as it's currently interpreted,

00:35:55.220 that 20 million Chinese communist mothers can come to America tomorrow, deliver 20 million babies, and you have 20 million citizens. 0.99

00:36:03.040 That is ridiculous, just facially ridiculous. 0.95

00:36:06.040 The 14th Amendment does not stand for that. 0.88

00:36:07.780 A subject of jurisdiction thereof was a very understood term at the time, and that whole thing was designed to deal with the issue of, obviously, the post-slavery universe in which we needed to deal with how we treat those human beings.

00:36:21.400 But it was not meant for everybody under the sun to come to America, have a baby, and become a citizen.

00:36:25.720 And I hope that that will prevail.

00:36:28.400 We filed a lot of really good amicus briefs.

00:36:30.240 I led one with my good friend Chuck Cooper.

00:36:32.040 I was proud that my work was cited yesterday in the courtroom when Chief Justice Roberts asked

00:36:38.040 the solicitor, hey, what do you have on this birth tourism stuff? He said, look, 19 congressmen

00:36:43.420 sent a letter. I led that effort along with Tom Tiffany to say, look, birth tourism is a real

00:36:48.500 problem. Here's what we understand is the background and the date on it. And I'm glad

00:36:53.260 that my work was cited. But you know what? That doesn't matter if we don't win. We've got to win

00:36:56.540 this stuff. And look, I hope, again, logical prevail, but we'll just have to wait and see

00:37:00.740 what the court does but as attorney general i'm going to continue to fight and we'll continue to

00:37:04.740 litigate this issue if they don't do the right thing there's more angles to pursue uh but it

00:37:09.620 just defies common sense that we would allow that to proceed okay chip i got it i mean the the whole

00:37:15.440 thing yesterday with iran um you know where we're headed on that while we can't seem to fund dhs we

00:37:22.780 You're not passing, you know, the Save America Act.

00:37:25.520 I mean, we are if we if we lose the next two elections, the the Congress and the Senate, possibly, and the presidential election, everything Donald Trump has done is over because Congress didn't codify any of this stuff.

00:37:46.600 And they are bleeding.

00:37:49.660 Beautiful bill.

00:37:50.700 they're bleeding that dry because we keep saying well we can just pay him out of the big beautiful

00:37:56.080 bill we can just pay him out of that well no i'm sorry if we do then we don't get to do all the

00:38:01.060 other things and they know that that are in the big beautiful bill correct well glenn look this

00:38:08.540 is the the fight that we had last is he there no we lose him yeah i'm here hey glenn well that was

00:38:13.960 a fascinating conversation conversation with chip roy chip you there hey glenn yeah glenn how

00:38:21.140 are you okay you're there okay good okay sorry i thought we lost you i thought we lost you no

00:38:25.480 sorry this was the fight last week that we had yeah this was the fight we had last week where

00:38:31.260 the senate tried to jam us with a bill that wasn't going to fund border patrol and ice 0.74

00:38:34.280 i find that offensive those men and women that are defending our country deserve full funding and yes

00:38:38.780 i know because we had the foresight to put some money out there in the one big beautiful bill

00:38:42.600 for additional enforcement, that we have a backstop,

00:38:46.260 but we shouldn't let that be a crutch to then bleed that dry

00:38:49.640 while Democrats hammer our guys.

00:38:51.800 Look, we have got to deliver on what the president's trying to do

00:38:54.600 and what we said we would do.

00:38:56.020 So, you know, I know that this morning the Senate re-unanimous consented

00:38:59.360 and sent that thing back over on the funding side,

00:39:02.640 but what we've demanded yesterday, I was on the phone with the White House,

00:39:06.220 I was on the phone with the Speaker, on the phone with Senators,

00:39:08.620 what we're demanding is, number one, you're not moving that bill

00:39:11.960 until we get a reconciliation bill done that funds Border Patrol and ICE for the rest of the president's term.

00:39:16.780 So we're going to have to have that fight out, but we're going to win this fight.

00:39:20.120 We have got to put funding in place to continue to secure the country.

00:39:23.820 We've got to codify the stuff the president's doing. 0.89

00:39:26.640 And look, I agree with you, but we're going to get our butts kicked in November.

00:39:30.000 We're going to be in the minority, and the president's not going to be able to do his job

00:39:32.960 if we don't deliver over the next six months.

00:39:35.540 Republicans need to wake up right now and say, we've got to save the country.

00:39:39.580 Islam is marching across our country. 1.00

00:39:41.480 Criminals are on our streets. 0.95

00:39:42.800 Our borders still are under assault.

00:39:44.560 We have people in this country who are not supposed to be here, and we've got to deliver. 1.00

00:39:47.880 And by the way, on Iran, look, my message on that has been pretty clear.

00:39:51.640 Take out the conventional stuff, the nuclear stuff, but I don't want boots on the ground, and I don't want blank checks. 0.55

00:39:56.840 I'm not signing up for continued conflict.

00:40:00.380 Make sure that we stand up for our interests.

00:40:02.140 I support the president doing that, but I've told my colleagues, do not see this as an excuse to fund the war machine in Washington.

00:40:08.360 and as attorney general i'm going to stand up for all of those things in court as a lawyer he's done

00:40:13.500 the job god bless you glenn thank you by the way this is the week for our lord and risen savior

00:40:17.860 jesus christ god bless you all and thanks for having me on thank you very much chip roy.com

00:40:23.360 chip roy.com we'll find out more about his race as texas attorney general chip roy.com all right

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00:41:28.560 So, I was eight when Charlie Duke, the astronaut, walked on the moon, and I remember watching

00:41:55.260 him in class walk on the moon in the early color and black and white uh images from the moon

00:42:02.700 uh was it all fake well charlie joins us here in just a second stand by

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00:43:50.240 the fusion of entertainment enlightenment and empowerment this is the glenn beck program

00:44:05.040 hello america welcome yesterday something remarkable happened uh on the space coast

00:44:14.900 And people don't understand it.

00:44:16.540 I saw some crazy, crazy responses that I thought were crazy.

00:44:21.180 You know, from the, we never went, stop pretending, to this is a waste of money.

00:44:28.300 And I think, and I can understand that to some degree.

00:44:33.740 But this is not 1975.

00:44:37.400 This is something entirely new.

00:44:40.060 We have Charlie Duke joining us.

00:44:41.640 He is a retired NASA astronaut.

00:44:43.320 he was the youngest person to ever walk on the moon

00:44:46.060 he's the guy I remember

00:44:47.800 watching walk on the moon

00:44:49.180 in 1972

00:44:50.480 I was just

00:44:52.620 8 years old

00:44:53.940 and I remember watching him in school

00:44:56.380 walk on the moon

00:44:57.600 driving the rover around

00:45:00.720 and leaving his footprints

00:45:02.800 and the rover on the moon

00:45:04.380 but

00:45:04.780 I want to ask him

00:45:08.180 because he did a video with me

00:45:11.120 a podcast a couple of years ago

00:45:13.240 where he was debunking all of the things that, you know, they were saying,

00:45:16.500 we faked it, you can't get through the radiation and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:45:19.320 And he debunked all of that, you know, as a scientist and as an astronaut.

00:45:23.240 But I want to talk to him about why this is important today,

00:45:26.920 because it's not about beating our chest.

00:45:29.740 It is about something entirely different.

00:45:32.520 We're going to spend some time on that this hour and so much more,

00:45:35.940 because there's a lot happening in the world.

00:45:37.420 We'll get to all that in 60 seconds.

00:45:39.040 First, Z factor.

00:45:39.920 some people have all the energy all the time no matter you know if they slept like a rock

00:45:44.680 uh all night or if they were up for half of it i don't know how our president does it

00:45:48.900 i mean i think people that can go and go and go and go and go without rest i think they're

00:45:54.000 psychopaths but that's just me it's just me i mean except for the president um the rest of us

00:45:58.920 we need a good night's sleep it's not optional the difference between day you know in a day where

00:46:03.700 you are sharp and focused and actually getting things done and a day where you're just trying

00:46:07.740 to keep you know counting the hours until you can try to go back to bed and go to sleep and then you

00:46:12.080 can't sleep oh my gosh the difference is night and day good sleep you have to have it that's what

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00:46:37.560 supply call 800 for relief 800 the number four relief all right let me uh go to uh charlie duke

00:46:48.420 retired nasa astronaut youngest person to walk on the moon and charlie i don't know if i ever

00:46:53.600 told you this you are the guy i remember as an eight-year-old kid watching walk on the moon i

00:47:00.140 don't remember the moon landing but i remember sitting in class watching you uh uh walk on the

00:47:07.020 walk on the moon and drive the lunar rover and and everything else so thank you for those memories

00:47:11.960 well thank you very much that was apollo 16 with john young we had a great time

00:47:17.500 and you were you were up there you know i saw let me really start here charlie

00:47:23.240 you went up there for 71 hours um you did something that i think only what 19 astronauts

00:47:31.380 have ever done and that is stand on the face of the moon and there are so many people that say

00:47:35.740 we didn't go and yesterday as i was covering the the launch and posting things i was astounded

00:47:42.580 at the number of people that said one of two things this is a hoax we never went or this is

00:47:50.660 such a waste of money and and you know we were in a race to get to the moon and it was a lot about

00:47:59.480 national pride back in the 60s and the 70s we were trying to beat the russians but we got a 0.95

00:48:05.720 lot of things out of it but this time going back and staying there is entirely different it is

00:48:13.680 good for america is it not i think so uh certainly uh you know after so long it's uh

00:48:21.740 good to go back uh the knowledge that we gained from the moon from apollo has been extraordinary

00:48:29.200 600 piles of moon rocks, all experiments we left up there that have been operating.

00:48:35.480 They've operated for about four or five years.

00:48:38.460 And then NASA finally had so much data, they shut them off.

00:48:41.460 But the evidence is overwhelming that we really did land on the moon.

00:48:48.780 And so I think going back again, eventually a land like this time on the South Pole will be extraordinary beneficial for us to see the terrain down there and the possibility of liquid of some sort down on the South Pole region.

00:49:11.020 So we don't know if it's water.

00:49:12.980 We're just assuming that that's water, that ice.

00:49:15.340 Well, years ago, we sent a satellite into, it crashed into the moon, and it was followed by another one that took some sort of experimental package, and the debris that came out was analyzed, and it looked like water vapor, I guess, to them.

00:49:38.100 And so the supposition is if there is water on the moon, it's at the South Pole frozen as ice.

00:49:48.320 So we're going to go down and see eventually and land down there.

00:49:53.820 If that's true, that means we can make oxygen, right?

00:49:59.260 And we can live there, right?

00:50:01.680 Well, yeah, to build a moon base is, I think, one of the plans in the future, and probably down there at the South Pole, the sun angle is low most of the time, about two degrees above the horizon.

00:50:20.540 So you get deep shadows, but you get real bright sunlight as the moon turns around once every 28 days.

00:50:34.120 So anyway, I think that's where we're planning on landing.

00:50:39.120 And eventually, I think it's a good idea to build a moon base up there 0.65

00:50:45.720 and start seeing how we can use some of the resources that are on the moon

00:50:51.220 that are readily available.

00:50:54.240 I will tell you, I have Jared Isaacman on with me in about an hour from now.

00:50:59.360 And I spent time, he's the head of NASA now.

00:51:01.700 He's a businessman.

00:51:03.060 He was one of the first pilots to go up in space commercially.

00:51:06.980 He's an amazing guy.

00:51:09.180 And we were talking about what we are going to be doing with,

00:51:13.100 beginning with Artemis 3 and Artemis 4.

00:51:15.720 uh and it's we are going to move rapidly um and it it changes it it is uh it just changes

00:51:24.340 everything it just changes everything economically it changes everything and one of the things i

00:51:29.420 like about this now is you know back in the 1960s and 70s only government could pull this off but

00:51:36.140 now we're not just the government doing it it's spacex and it's bezos and it's other countries

00:51:42.600 that are also involved and we are looking to build like a a spaceport we would be we would

00:51:50.500 be the ones that would have the giant port if you will that is shipping everything up and and down

00:51:56.860 from space which is extraordinarily important i agree a moon base for me is the final objective

00:52:07.200 to have a permanent station on the moon.

00:52:10.300 We did it in South America, the Arctic, Antarctic,

00:52:14.480 and it's worked down there in that hostile environment,

00:52:17.780 and we could do the same thing up on the moon eventually.

00:52:21.280 And, you know, with vehicles that we can bring up there

00:52:27.140 through the lunar rovers and experiments packages that we could emplace,

00:52:32.880 uh, uh, we find, I think a tremendous, uh, opportunity, uh, as a, uh, a science station,

00:52:40.760 uh, on the lunar surface. Um, can you tell me yesterday I was watching it and, um, when they

00:52:49.020 took off, I thought of these guys and it's, it's different than it was in your age. Um, because

00:52:54.460 usually you guys went up once and then somebody else had to turn. These guys have been up several

00:53:00.980 times not this far but they have been up in space multiple times and so i think it kind of changed

00:53:06.920 it a little bit to where you know it's not their first time experiencing a launch but as i was

00:53:12.280 watching it charlie i because i watched i know you did too and so many others because i watched

00:53:18.200 the challenger until that thing was fully separated and at the envelope of space i felt

00:53:26.120 weird cheering when it first started i was like yes yes and it was so exciting and then

00:53:31.980 i saw that plume of smoke and it reminded me of the challenger and you are just

00:53:36.860 never ever safe um what were you feeling when they took off do you go through that where

00:53:44.300 you're worried about things that could go wrong well uh both uh they and us uh and apollo we had a

00:53:53.020 automatic abort system that big rocket up on the top of the spacecraft was your escape and if

00:54:03.640 the automatic system sensed an explosion it was going to fire that rocket and lift the spacecraft

00:54:11.080 off to a safe safe area and that was automatic up through a minute or so if i remember and then

00:54:19.560 After that, you went to manual so that the commander could command it if you wanted to.

00:54:26.020 And eventually, you jettisoned it because you didn't need it.

00:54:30.980 And anyway, everything went well.

00:54:34.480 And it was designed very similar to Apollo and state systems and stuff like that.

00:54:42.860 So I felt very confident.

00:54:44.820 But the only thing, of course, they have solar panels, and we had fuel cells.

00:54:51.960 And solar panels are more reliable, I think.

00:54:57.120 And so they've gone into that, whereas, you know, in Apollo 13, we had an oxygen tank explode.

00:55:05.180 We lost all the fuel cells.

00:55:07.000 So we had a crippled spacecraft.

00:55:09.560 And fortunately, with the lunar module, we could get them back on the lunar module.

00:55:13.500 But that was a major work of mission control who saved the day.

00:55:19.220 So when you went up, you didn't circle the Earth for a full day.

00:55:23.420 Right now, they're not headed towards the moon.

00:55:26.000 They're orbiting right now for 24 hours where they're just checking all of the systems to make sure nothing goes wrong because it's a new system.

00:55:34.320 It's Artemis.

00:55:35.440 And the first time humans have flown in Artemis.

00:55:38.640 So they're doing that.

00:55:40.280 You didn't have to do that.

00:55:41.440 But then on the way to the moon, what is that like headed for five days, just going to the moon?

00:55:51.640 Well, uh, we orbited for, uh, one and a half revolutions and over Australia, we accelerated to escape velocity and we were on our way.

00:56:01.500 Uh, then we had to retrieve the lunar module, uh, uh, after we got out of orbit and, uh, on our way.

00:56:09.680 And it was a 72-hour trip was the way it was designed so that we had arrived at the moon at the proper velocity and still have enough fuel to get into orbit and then get out of orbit.

00:56:26.660 So that's the way it was designed as a 72-hour trip.

00:56:31.160 And if you could get, you can get to the moon in 14 hours, but you're going so fast, you didn't, in Apollo, you didn't have enough fuel to slow down and get in orbit.

00:56:41.820 So that's why they shot you out ahead for a 72-hour trip.

00:56:49.460 That is, is there any sense of speed in space?

00:56:54.880 Not once you get out of orbit, it's not.

00:56:57.280 And in Earth orbit, of course, you look down and you're just whizzing across the surface.

00:57:03.220 And, you know, you go across the United States in 20 minutes.

00:57:09.340 And so you get a very big sensation of motion in orbit.

00:57:16.880 But on the way to the moon, you just see the Earth receding and the moon growing.

00:57:22.740 And so it's very slow.

00:57:23.940 and you don't sense your velocity,

00:57:29.640 is what I'm trying to say.

00:57:31.640 Right, yeah, yeah.

00:57:33.580 They're making a big deal that we're going farther

00:57:35.900 than we've ever gone in deep space.

00:57:37.820 We're going, I think, 5,000 miles past

00:57:40.340 where we have been before.

00:57:43.180 Is that a big deal?

00:57:44.280 Why are we doing that?

00:57:46.480 Well, that's just the way the orbit is designed,

00:57:50.500 and I think we're going out there

00:57:52.020 to see the backside of the moon, the whole of the backside, uh, we've never seen.

00:57:58.720 Haven't we flown around that? I mean, when, when Apollo went down, the person up in the capsule

00:58:05.040 was go ahead, but we flew, we flew around it, but we were only 170 miles above the moon.

00:58:11.580 And, uh, so you just have a thin strip of the backside that you see along the equator,

00:58:18.220 They're going to be 7,000 miles out, and they're going to have a view of the whole backside.

00:58:24.560 I don't know what the sun angle is going to be, and it might be some of it in darkness,

00:58:30.600 but it's going to be a spectacular view from back there.

00:58:35.140 You see the moon, and then beyond that, you'll see the Earth.

00:58:40.720 So it's going to be a spectacular view from back there.

00:58:44.000 so we have no idea what the backside actually we we know what a strip of it looks like but

00:58:49.840 we have no idea what the rest of it looks like well no i think that there's been some

00:58:56.740 satellite photographs from back there so uh we i think we have a a pretty good idea of what most

00:59:04.260 of it looks like but uh i'm i can't answer that specifically i know that in apollo the

00:59:10.840 the maximum altitude we were on the backside was about 170 miles above it so you just saw a thin

00:59:18.360 sliver of the backside and now uh from that distance 6,000 miles ago have the whole of the

00:59:25.080 backside uh visible and uh but I think the sun angle is going to be uh such it's going to be

00:59:31.980 from earth it's going to be about a half moon so you'll see about half the backside in sunlight

00:59:38.040 and the rest in sort of dark shadow or dark.

00:59:42.920 So we'll see how it all looks.

00:59:44.820 It's going to be, they're going to be on their way soon,

00:59:48.200 and that's going to be a pretty spectacular event.

00:59:53.100 The only trouble is they're not going into orbit.

00:59:55.500 They're just going to swing back 6,000 miles and come back.

01:00:00.320 How frustrating is it, Charlie?

01:00:01.720 How frustrating is that to be that close and not land?

01:00:06.580 I mean, it's got to be terrible.

01:00:09.280 Yeah, it would be a very frustrating thing.

01:00:13.180 We were in orbit, and an hour before we would land,

01:00:19.400 Mattingly and the other spacecraft reported a major problem,

01:00:22.600 which caused an abort.

01:00:24.320 And you can imagine the disappointment one hour before we would land on the moon,

01:00:28.680 and they're going to tell us to come home.

01:00:30.900 So, fortunately, Mission Control saved the day, and it took them seven hours to get us back to landing.

01:00:39.780 But they did it, and, you know, I'm a great expositor of the Mission Control.

01:00:50.900 They saved the day on every Apollo.

01:00:53.200 They were really good.

01:00:56.020 Charlie, it is an honor to know you and be able to call you a friend.

01:00:59.520 And thank you so much for talking to us.

01:01:01.220 I appreciate it.

01:01:01.800 God bless you.

01:01:03.080 God bless you too, Glenn.

01:01:04.860 I really enjoy knowing you and enjoy your program.

01:01:08.900 Have a great day.

01:01:09.560 Happy Easter.

01:01:10.560 You bet.

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01:02:27.200 Ricky, do you know which episode?

01:02:31.120 Can we post that up at glenbeck.com today?

01:02:34.280 Yeah, producer Matt.

01:02:35.040 Producer Matt, in your spare time,

01:02:36.560 can you dig that up in the archives

01:02:38.280 and get that over there?

01:02:39.140 It was, I think the episode was called

01:02:40.780 We Faked It from August of 2023.

01:02:44.540 Let's see if we can post that

01:02:45.420 so you can watch Charlie's interview.

01:02:47.200 Yeah, while we've been talking,

01:02:48.820 there's been this viral moment

01:02:50.300 that we have to share.

01:02:51.360 we have the clip and it's uh edited go ahead

01:02:59.100 why do you want to be here why do you love space why do you love being a part of history

01:03:07.700 we're going back to the moon that's why

01:03:10.560 how old is he 12 i don't know but this i saw this kid as you

01:03:20.200 you know he's just like a 10 year old version of glenn beck yesterday maybe with less f-bombs but

01:03:25.820 bless him i'm sorry i'm sorry that's not a good thing we don't need 10 year old versions of me

01:03:31.220 no but jared eisegman actually responded last night and you know all of his spare time and he

01:03:36.920 said oh this kid is definitely getting a bag of nasa gear and glenn you know how charitable jared

01:03:43.980 is behind the scenes. I do. I, you know, uh, I found some things, uh, about Jared and quite

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01:06:26.080 There was a time when the future wasn't something we feared.

01:06:36.060 It was something we chased.

01:06:39.900 Not on our phones or screens, not in simulations, but in fire.

01:06:48.540 We pointed ourselves at the sky.

01:06:51.920 And we went.

01:06:53.100 Not because it's easy, as JFK said, but because it was impossible.

01:07:04.800 Thousands of men and women, each doing one small, perfect thing, so that together, we

01:07:15.460 could do something eternal.

01:07:16.860 And then, we stopped.

01:07:25.320 Our machines grew quiet.

01:07:28.320 The ambition faded.

01:07:31.040 The horizon pulled closer.

01:07:35.380 We traded the unknown for the comfortable, because space is not poetry.

01:07:46.580 It's cold, it's silent, and it does not care if you make it home.

01:07:56.040 Four human beings climb into a machine.

01:08:00.400 There is no emergency brake, no rescue mission, just enough fuel to trust the math.

01:08:14.220 And yet, here we are again, standing at the edge of the known world, just like those who 0.72

01:08:25.100 first looked at the ocean and refused to believe it had an end.

01:08:33.660 This is not just a launch.

01:08:37.400 It's a decision.

01:08:40.120 That we still are explorers.

01:08:43.260 We still are builders, still willing to risk everything, simply to remind ourselves who

01:08:53.260 we are.

01:08:56.260 In a world that feels like it's coming apart, America once again lit a fire.

01:09:10.860 millions looked up, perhaps simply to remember, the future is still there, and it begins again.

01:09:26.040 i saw this i witnessed this yesterday

01:09:34.400 and in a way i understand the comments that i saw online some of them

01:09:42.500 were just becoming so nasty everybody is just so nasty

01:09:48.820 i don't expect you to agree with me on everything and especially something like this

01:09:54.580 you know people will see this and they'll say oh geez you know a moon mission and we've done that

01:10:00.820 i mean we already have tang we got tang we got velcro we got a microwave oven

01:10:05.580 they see something like this and they immediately think of the old nasa they think of nostalgia and

01:10:17.340 politics and waste and i understand that but what is happening right now is not 1976

01:10:26.940 artemis 2 is not a rerun artemis 2 is a signal and and if you don't if you you may not

01:10:39.320 you may not you won't understand this just by feeling it and we are trained to look for patterns

01:10:49.480 and we are trained to understand things through history and so you're looking backward but history

01:10:56.400 has already turned forward and that's where we need to have a conversation yesterday

01:11:05.100 I was trying to figure out how I could frame this historically what I saw last night or yesterday as I was standing there at NASA watching this thing get ready to launch and I thought this is like standing in a field in 1793 and watching Eli Whitney crank up the first cotton gin.

01:11:35.100 i'm sure standing in that field you saw that wooden machine you know and it did not look

01:11:43.280 necessarily like the future and you're like okay it's wood gears it's moving and it can do this

01:11:50.120 but how is this really going to change everything but that cotton gin changed the entire economic

01:11:55.780 structure of a nation faster production new markets new dependencies new wealth new conflicts

01:12:03.800 new ways to free people the ripple did not just stay in that field and it spread across the entire

01:12:13.460 earth that's what you witnessed yesterday you won't know it for years to come all of this is

01:12:22.140 will not be appreciated for years yet but you are witnessing one of the greatest times mankind has

01:12:30.080 ever witnessed this entire everything that is happening in the world today good and bad you are

01:12:36.800 a witness to it and we are at an inflection point when you look at what's happening with the moon

01:12:44.180 this is not 1969 anymore apollo apollo 11 was proving that we could go and land and come back

01:12:53.120 and this is more than just proving we can stay this is about proving we can stay and build and

01:13:02.220 Charlie he was still looking at it from the old NASA that we're going to do experiments

01:13:07.740 that's not what this is about the phrase that you are going to hear more and more now

01:13:13.120 is the space economy let me translate that in into plain English it means space is no longer

01:13:22.500 a destination. It's becoming infrastructure. Right now, if you look at everything, what matters

01:13:29.400 to modern life always runs on highways, invisible highways, literal highways, shipping lanes,

01:13:35.640 fiber optic cables, energy corridors, airspace, all of this. And the countries and the companies

01:13:42.000 that laid those cables and paved those corridors control them. What I want you to do is imagine a

01:13:50.860 layer above all of that now launch lanes orbital manufacturing hubs lunar refueling stations

01:13:58.940 satellite grids that don't just observe earth but they power it they map it they secure it and

01:14:04.580 eventually mine beyond it the moment we can reliably go into space return from space and

01:14:12.520 do it again and again cheaply predictably and safely we have just created the next great trade

01:14:19.040 network not across oceans but above the oceans which brings me to florida the space coast is

01:14:28.700 not just a stretch of land anymore the space coast is quickly going to become the front door

01:14:35.420 to the largest port humanity has ever built humans thinking when you hear a port you think

01:14:43.700 of a seaport but this you know what we're talking about now seems like so much science fiction that

01:14:50.700 it can't be real but it is real the future is now to understand what happened yesterday you need to

01:14:58.060 think spaceport ports real ports that's where all wealth has gathered from the history of man

01:15:06.620 The beginning of any big civilizational change, it always revolved around ports, Venice, London, New York.

01:15:15.100 You control the ports, you control the flow, you control the flow, you control the economy.

01:15:22.660 Now ask yourself, what happens when the flow is not goods between continents, but materials between Earth, orbit, and the moon?

01:15:32.640 Fuel, rare minerals, manufacturing done in zero gravity, satellite deployment at industrial scale.

01:15:43.120 The coastline is no longer beachfront property.

01:15:46.920 It is a strategic ground zero.

01:15:51.580 And what the average person needs to understand globally is we Americans are not alone seeing this.

01:15:59.820 China understands exactly what this moment is.

01:16:05.020 And nobody's racing.

01:16:06.140 Like last time we raced to plant our flag.

01:16:08.360 That's not it.

01:16:09.560 We are now racing to set the rules because whoever builds the roads to space writes the laws of space.

01:16:18.560 Who gets access?

01:16:20.340 Who pays tolls?

01:16:21.760 Who's allowed to operate?

01:16:23.380 Who's shut out?

01:16:25.100 And we are not decades ahead.

01:16:27.200 We are literally months ahead, maybe a year or two at best.

01:16:33.000 So what happened yesterday when you hear people say online, this is just our ego and it's just a, no, it's not.

01:16:38.360 It's not about reliving glory.

01:16:40.400 This is not about Tang or another microwave oven.

01:16:43.500 This is about whether the United States of America will define the next economic frontier or we have to rent space in someone else's.

01:16:53.600 what's so hard is we all have to train ourselves to think like americans again

01:17:00.080 we have to look at the impossible and the bigger vision this and artificial intelligence

01:17:09.600 the entire ball game for the future ai will determine how we think build and decide careful

01:17:17.580 and space will determine where we expand, what we extract, and what we trade.

01:17:24.340 One controls the mind of the future.

01:17:26.720 The other controls the resources of the future.

01:17:30.000 And yesterday, we watched the opening move made by us,

01:17:34.040 not the end of a journey or a reliving of an old journey,

01:17:37.440 a beginning of a new system entirely,

01:17:39.980 a system that if we lead it,

01:17:43.080 will secure prosperity for the next hundred years in America.

01:17:47.580 And if we don't lead it, someone else will, and they're not going to ask for permission.

01:17:56.160 It's also different. It's not NASA doing it.

01:17:59.100 Now it is NASA, hopefully going to be eventually reduced to just controlling the port and all of other businesses, building the ships and the astronauts and all of that stuff.

01:18:11.340 So we're not paying for all of that. We're actually charging for use of the port.

01:18:16.000 But if we don't see this vision now, America is going to be forced to continually beg for permission from some other country.

01:18:27.860 As with everything that is happening in the world today, it's a really scary time because everything's about to change.

01:18:35.440 But if you can see the future, if you can see over the horizon, you can see the bigger picture,

01:18:40.940 Then the only question is, do you believe America should lead that? Do you believe that America should strive to lead it? Are we different? Can we be better than others? Can we set more people free by the free market and our understanding of the free market when it's done ethically?

01:19:04.540 I think so.

01:19:06.180 I think America should continue to lead.

01:19:09.800 But I definitely know for my children, I want America to lead.

01:19:15.260 Because I don't want to be in the back seat taking orders from China. 0.98

01:19:18.780 And I certainly don't think that China is going to be a good future for my children. 0.99

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01:21:12.620 More Glenn Beck straight ahead.

01:21:24.120 so a couple of insiders uh wrote in during the break glenn love all this space stuff but if our

01:21:37.920 country is overrun with birthright babies then what difference at that point will it matter

01:21:42.260 loretta wrote in conquering space is exciting but it can be weaponized both of those things

01:21:48.200 hawk and loretta are absolutely true absolutely true but we've got to learn to do multiple things

01:21:55.620 at once it is not a um it's it's not a um a yes or no one thing at a time we have to do

01:22:05.800 multiple things that's why we have pete hagseth in charge of the pentagon i trust him i hope that

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01:22:20.500 rubio is now working on new alliances and stopping all of these endless wars and finding new ways to

01:22:27.800 get along jared isaacman is amazing he's a perfect guy for space we have elon musk now who is like a

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01:22:47.120 And on top of that, we have Donald Trump,

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01:22:52.160 seeing the big vision and saying,

01:22:53.960 this is where our nation needs to go.

01:22:56.140 And all of you do your job.

01:22:58.440 All of you just keep in your lane.

01:23:01.500 And then there's you.

01:23:04.080 But this is not going to happen

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01:27:59.200 It's an honor to have you on again, Victor.

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01:28:15.840 How are you feeling?

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01:28:36.920 and they took out most of my right lung,

01:28:40.560 and they got the cancer.

01:28:42.260 It's a very rare type that affects non-smokers,

01:28:45.760 and it has a rare mutation,

01:28:48.040 so no chemo or immunotherapy treats it,

01:28:51.540 so it's just a matter of whether they got it all or not.

01:28:54.260 Got it all.

01:28:54.700 Yeah, every 60 days, I take a blood biopsy test and a CT.

01:29:01.200 I'm having a little problem.

01:29:02.720 It's been 90 days, but there was an aneurysm, an artery broke after the surgery.

01:29:09.260 So they had to take me back in for another four hours,

01:29:12.340 and I lost about half my blood volume and had six transfusions.

01:29:19.120 I was jogging pretty well my whole life,

01:29:22.720 and then to have a heart problem after because of the trauma to the heart

01:29:27.020 and the blood volume and the anemia.

01:29:29.780 So I'm just getting over that, actually.

01:29:31.600 So I'm starting to feel like I'm maybe,

01:29:34.540 but that was kind of a detour from the cancer that I've been dealing with.

01:29:38.480 Other than that, I think I have a good prognosis.

01:29:41.800 We pray for you, and we'll continue to pray for you.

01:29:45.020 I appreciate it.

01:29:45.900 We know how important you are.

01:29:48.360 So the president's speech last night,

01:29:51.220 I'd love to hear your initial thoughts on this.

01:29:53.360 I don't think this was made for people like us that pay attention to news because there was nothing new there.

01:29:59.940 I think this was him just trying to tell the American people who don't pay attention all the time, this is what's happening in our world.

01:30:08.220 Do you feel this is going to turn into an Afghanistan, which so many people fear?

01:30:13.880 Or is this part of a bigger vision of the president and it's going well?

01:30:19.660 Which is it to you?

01:30:21.540 I think it's going well.

01:30:22.420 I think what he was trying to do is to compare it to other expeditionary invasions, you know, except interventions.

01:30:32.780 So, you know, we had the long Afghan and Iraq wars, 20 years in the Afghan and 10 in the Iraq, and that was 7,500 dead.

01:30:43.560 maybe 72 to 7,500, depending on how you adjudicate it.

01:30:49.920 And then we had the first Gulf War, where we had over 150,

01:30:55.660 and that was 42 days.

01:30:57.420 We're only at 33, I think, right now.

01:30:59.680 And we had the Serbian misadventure. 0.86

01:31:01.920 Well, I guess they felt it was a success, 72 days against Milosevic.

01:31:07.640 He could have added, I think, the Libyan.

01:31:09.560 That was a misadventure.

01:31:10.620 That was Obama's seven months of bombing with the French and the British.

01:31:16.620 So there's been a lot of things to compare it to,

01:31:19.020 and we haven't really reached any of the cost of those wars or the length of those wars.

01:31:24.900 And then he wanted to, I guess he wanted to reemphasize his one-off approach,

01:31:30.280 kind of a Jacksonian, no better friend, no worse enemy, don't touch us or we'll hit you. 0.99

01:31:37.280 So he mentioned Soleimani, Baghdadi, he could have mentioned the Wagner group.

01:31:42.220 And then when he came back, he mentioned the one-day Venezuela interlude and bombing at last, the 25 to 30-hour bombing attack last summer.

01:31:54.780 And what I think he was trying to say is this 30-day intervention, this bombing, is not consistent with these long campaigns of the past, but it's more consistent with these kind of punitive things that he's done that he feels that they came up at the end of negotiations, usually.

01:32:13.580 And then he feels that there's an exit strategy.

01:32:16.820 That's what he was trying to do.

01:32:17.740 I think the difference on this for the average person is they're just looking at the gas price.

01:32:23.140 and they're like yes the average person is saying it we didn't need to get into this and my gas

01:32:27.420 price was going down and i'm now it's going back up and it's going to cause all kinds of problems

01:32:30.820 in my personal life um and i'm not sure that the average person appreciates yeah well you're not

01:32:38.660 going to be vaporized anytime soon i don't think they point right but i i don't think i think he

01:32:47.740 feels that in two or three weeks it'll end and the people who are speculating as they all have to do

01:32:54.720 and are buying all these stocks are going to be stuck with it at a time when venezuela oil is

01:33:01.720 coming on the market and the united states is upping by another million barrels from the reserve

01:33:07.020 and another million from new leasing and he feels that there's going to be the reverse trend that's

01:33:13.440 going to go down very quickly but um do you believe that based on what you know i know we're

01:33:19.540 all speculating here but what gives you confidence that that he's right on this

01:33:24.820 well he he determines i haven't seen a war like this where one side determines

01:33:32.720 when he's going to leave he defined the objectives and from what he said they're almost all met they

01:33:40.020 have no navy they have no air force to speak of they have some missiles left but they're that's

01:33:46.300 a vanishing asset they have no air defenses their military structure probably half a trillion

01:33:51.980 dollars acquired over 40 years has gone up in smoke and at any point he can say this is what

01:33:59.100 i wanted to do is to cripple them they're going to be very hard to give the subsidies to the arab 1.00

01:34:03.820 terrorists of the houthis hezbollah and hamas when they've got 93 million people who are not 0.98

01:34:10.280 they're not happy with the regime and i guess when we leave or stop the regime is going to

01:34:17.080 tell these people oh by the way we're not going to be able to lower the cost of gas or food for

01:34:22.840 you because we've got to spend a half a trillion dollars for our missiles air force nuclear program

01:34:28.040 again and our subsidies to all of these people of the arab world they're committing i don't think

01:34:32.700 that's going to be popular so i think what he's saying is i'm setting the conditions for a lot of

01:34:38.100 tension and i can i can leave anywhere because i've achieved most of my objectives in maybe two

01:34:45.280 and three more weeks what would happen in that i think he would try to i think they're hitting

01:34:51.560 tactical aircraft they have air i've never seen a war where you have not air parity or air

01:34:56.720 superiority but air supremacy which is usually defined as you can go anywhere at any time

01:35:02.040 and that's what they're doing with tactical aircraft apaches warthogs i think they're

01:35:08.160 going to go up and down the coast opposite karg island and opposite the strait of our moves and

01:35:13.300 just clean out any type of tactical missile or drones and at that point he can say well the

01:35:22.800 europeans are meeting you're meeting we're happy you have 30 nations you say you're going to go

01:35:26.860 into the spreader moves this will be very helpful for nato and we'll be impressed and see you

01:35:32.160 wouldn't want to be that's what it's going to do so the um um the other side of this is the people

01:35:42.200 you know they killed as he said last night 45 000 of their own citizens um and they have not risen

01:35:47.800 up yet because they haven't been told to donald trump keeps saying wait until you know you get

01:35:52.640 the signal neil ferguson who i really respect said um that this is this is a counter-revolution

01:36:00.280 and counter-revolutions never work this is a counter-revolution from 1979 this is not a

01:36:05.360 revolution um where where do you stand on that about the people being free and standing up

01:36:14.440 i'm a i'm a long friend of neil we work together at the hoover institution and the history program

01:36:20.200 But I don't know what he meant when counter-revolutions never work.

01:36:25.300 If there wasn't a counter-revolution, the Robespierre brothers would have, you know,

01:36:29.440 they would have institutionalized the reign of terror.

01:36:32.500 They were thrown out by the, the Jacobins were thrown out by the Thermador counter-revolution.

01:36:38.460 And then that counter-revolution was superseded by Napoleon's counter-revolution.

01:36:43.060 It happens all the time.

01:36:44.060 and uh the point though is i think trump is saying that given the misadventures in afghanistan

01:36:53.860 and iraq with nation building they we have a different paradigm we select people as we did

01:37:00.640 in venezuela that we tell them the alternative is poverty bombing and probably your your arrest or

01:37:06.680 death or we don't really care what your ideology is or your past we just want you not to be

01:37:12.540 ideological, and to run the country efficiently, and to agree at some point to a transition

01:37:19.180 government. And then we avoid that we're going to take all of the Maduro regime out, we're going to

01:37:24.420 put boots on the ground, we're going to get all the NGOs in, which we know didn't work.

01:37:30.300 So I think what he's saying to the Iranians is, I'm not going to negotiate with anybody, 1.00

01:37:36.320 but what I call pragmatic people are realists. I don't really care what they've done in the past,

01:37:41.700 and the Speaker, maybe, or the Parliament, or the President,

01:37:45.080 will deal with you, even though they might not, at this point, have real power.

01:37:50.560 And then I think the Israelis are going down their list, 0.97

01:37:53.900 anybody who identifies themselves as...

01:37:56.320 And that dynamic of empowering one group who doesn't have power,

01:38:01.940 but we're saying we're only going to talk to this group,

01:38:04.000 and then the one that says they do, are going to be...

01:38:07.140 I mean, I wouldn't want to be one of those people and say,

01:38:09.160 I know that it's kind of grotesque what's happening with the car because they're going to be killed.

01:38:17.320 So then I think he's setting and then he has not hit yet.

01:38:21.280 He says he will, but he hasn't hit communications, roads, sewer, water, electricity, power.

01:38:28.000 So he's telling the resistance, you can join these pragmatists and you can have a country.

01:38:33.880 We don't really care what the ideology is.

01:38:36.760 and then you can transition yourself once we're gone but that depends on i think he thinks three

01:38:43.940 more weeks of letting the israelis target these leaders and then three more weeks of

01:38:49.000 hitting their installations and i think to weaken them and you really

01:38:52.980 so can i ask you when he's playing this you know we don't we just want somebody who will work with

01:39:01.140 us um does that is that anything like what we used to do with our cia where we would pick these

01:39:11.760 leaders and we'd put them in there because they were good for us is that is that a repeat of that

01:39:17.340 kind of philosophy which turned out horribly or is this different i think it's a third choice

01:39:23.620 because i don't think that we pick the people in venezuela and i don't think that we pick the

01:39:29.560 president what we're saying is if there are people there involved with the present regime

01:39:35.080 that we feel could be separated from it and they're already there and the people know them

01:39:42.220 and the people think that they have views that are different but though silent because of the

01:39:48.760 oppression then we're going to empower them and that's what we did in venezuela and that makes it

01:39:54.640 much easier than to have to go in you know we're going to afghanistan i don't i don't think people

01:40:01.760 realize that when the left takes over the ngos it's sort of like 19th century british imperialism

01:40:07.920 we had george floyd murals in afghanistan we had a pride flag at the embassy we had a gender

01:40:13.680 studies program and that was from a traditional islamic society so i just don't think that thing

01:40:20.620 works anymore and i don't think the cia assassinating somebody and putting a pro-american

01:40:26.900 dictator is going to work either but does it work if we leave there and the people are not free and

01:40:34.100 they are still repressed or are we saying it's up to you we're leaving you we're leaving you with

01:40:40.540 enough opportunity but no guarantee we're not doing it for you no that's exactly right and

01:40:47.780 And we're not and he can package that by saying we're not doing it for you and we're not telling you how to do it and what to do and what to end up with.

01:40:56.440 That's your business.

01:40:57.140 All we care about is whatever government emerges, whether it's reformed autocrats or whether it's people at work.

01:41:05.880 all we're telling you is we do not want you to export export terror kill americans create a bomb 0.95

01:41:12.920 have a ballistic missile um cleat and subsidize all of these wretched people in hezbollah and 1.00

01:41:21.460 houthis if you can do that it's up to you just don't do what you're doing now and we're going

01:41:26.360 to help you because we've taken a lot of their leaders command and control a lot of their assets

01:41:31.440 out and we've humiliated them and they're a paper tiger in the world stage now so it's it's conducive

01:41:37.320 for you to step up because you may have a better chance this time and then there's going to be an

01:41:44.040 argument of course whether you arm the curves when you give them arms uh if they do rise up

01:41:50.100 would american tactical aircraft come in and help them or who knows but i think the major

01:41:56.460 military operations are going to be over and i think he's looking at the midterms he's looking

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01:42:14.480 and he's going to argue that this was not an optional um victor davis hanson um the crooks

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01:43:48.240 so victor um the the next question i have for you is on space and i think people are looking at

01:44:07.180 the lawn many people are looking at this launch of artemis 2 yesterday and framing it in you know

01:44:13.480 oh we're going up to do more science you know things up on the moon and we're exploring and

01:44:18.560 you know it's just america beating her chest this is historically extraordinarily significant

01:44:25.460 in my book would you comment on the significance or non-significance of uh artemis 2

01:44:32.280 yeah i think it is very significant i mean we've never really gone this far going around

01:44:38.720 the backside of the moon and more importantly we had kind of lost our confidence we haven't

01:44:45.620 had a lunar event in 50 years and on the moon and this is a plenary for that i think there's

01:44:55.600 i think there's a lot of confusion because of this we've had these space disasters we've had

01:45:00.600 the problem with the space station so i think somebody is saying to us we can still do what

01:45:06.380 our grandparents did and we can do it and fulfill their vision and get back to the moon and make a

01:45:12.600 base there from the base and we have the ability to do that and we're going to show you now for 10

01:45:18.620 days we're going to go way out around the moon and we have that ability and i think what they

01:45:23.500 were trying to say the military efficacy that you see this military is is the government yes

01:45:29.540 but we still have and that transcends into the space program because they're also looking over

01:45:34.960 their shoulders. You know, Elon Musk's SpaceX program, they have bigger rockets, apparently

01:45:40.660 with greater thrust in the company. And people are starting to think, well, you know, we

01:45:46.480 have competitors. Maybe it would be just better to outsource it to somebody like SpaceX and

01:45:52.080 not get the bureaucracy involved. So I think they're trying to restore the glory days of

01:45:56.740 NASA, and I hope I wish them well.

01:45:59.100 yeah um again uh we pray for you i thank you so much for talking to us victor and and thanks for

01:46:06.460 all you appreciate it you bet you you bet victor davis hanson uh from the hoover uh institute he's

01:46:13.800 a senior fellow there you can follow him his website is victorhanson.com that's victorhanson.com

01:46:20.780 you want to understand the world and what's happening through uh somebody who really

01:46:26.020 understands history he's your guy victorhansen.com have you ever had a moment you wish you could

01:46:32.640 take back i mean i've had oh i've had half a lifetime of that but something if when it happens

01:46:39.080 really really fast and it stays with you longer than you expected um that's a problem and did it

01:46:46.920 involve ever taking somebody's life no uh not for me at least if you're a gun owning person uh you

01:46:55.680 already know the reality when you point a firearm at somebody in a crisis you are not aiming to wound

01:47:01.380 you are aiming to end the threat and you never point a gun at somebody you don't intend on

01:47:07.160 killing and that is a decision you can't undo and you i know you you don't take that lightly

01:47:12.140 but there are options especially if you're living in a state that is unfriendly to guns the burner

01:47:18.580 launcher gives you a non-lethal way to defend yourself i think every school room should have

01:47:23.400 this. They're powerful pepper and tear gas kinetic projectiles that can stop a threat from a distance

01:47:29.540 without turning a bad moment into something permanent. It is legal in all 50 states. No

01:47:34.360 permit is required. The moment when everything happens so fast, you need a Burna. Go to Burna,

01:47:40.000 B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash Glenn. Burna dot com slash Glenn. The head of NASA is on with Glenn next,

01:47:46.500 but Torch Insiders got the scoop from him yesterday. Join now at glennbeck.com slash

01:47:51.400 torch for all the perks I have to tell you we live in such amazing times and yesterday I was

01:48:16.960 thinking you know 15 years ago i remember doing a monologue saying uh look at the minds the

01:48:23.300 intellects that were our founding fathers they were the greatest my benjamin franklin we have a

01:48:29.780 we have a paper from the london times uh back in the day where benjamin franklin had been on a boat

01:48:35.820 for three months going over there to talk to the king and they said hey he's been doing these

01:48:40.520 electricity experiments with lightning we think he has a lightning gun if you live in london be

01:48:46.200 careful because he might just try to use his lightning gun to burn London down. I mean,

01:48:51.560 he was so far ahead of things, um, at the time in Jefferson was the same way. And I thought,

01:48:56.280 where are the great minds? I want to tell you, we are living through remarkable times right now,

01:49:04.220 the brains, the, the talent and the good people that are actually working to change and save our

01:49:11.840 country is is I don't I don't think we would I don't think we would have survived if if Elon

01:49:18.460 Musk hadn't have changed things at X so we could actually have freedom of speech again and Jared

01:49:23.740 Isaacman is an amazing American he is the NASA administrator the new NASA administrator

01:49:30.980 he is a guy who is a private citizen he was also one of the first private citizens in space the

01:49:40.400 first private citizen to perform a spacewalk he ran draken and shift for really successful private

01:49:48.380 businesses um and now is making the changes needed at nasa that is going to change everything in the

01:49:56.600 world uh and he joins me now how are you sir i'm doing great glenn how are you i am i am really

01:50:05.300 great what an amazing day yesterday i talked to somebody uh who was with you and watched you and

01:50:12.600 said he was very stoic everybody else was cheering and clapping and you just smiled there towards the

01:50:19.840 end you were very stoic it had to be at least it was for me because of i watched the challenger

01:50:27.260 explode it was terrifying all the way it was exciting but i was worried about every little

01:50:32.560 thing. You know more than I do. What was going through your mind? Yeah. Oh, well, uh, I have to

01:50:39.480 tell you being, uh, being strapped into the rocket, being on top of it is a lot less stressful than

01:50:44.980 being on earth and being responsible for it. So, um, you know, those, uh, you know, those

01:50:50.640 astronauts embarking on, on Artemis too, for sure are, uh, undertaking the opening act in America's

01:50:57.220 great return to the moon. Um, but they also really represent, uh, you know, kind of the spearhead of

01:51:03.700 America's space program right now. So there is an awful lot on this mission. And I understand that

01:51:08.520 ascent, which is what you witnessed yesterday. It's just one part of the story, right? It was

01:51:13.560 a very clean launch. There's no doubt about it, but, uh, we have nine more days to go until they

01:51:18.440 splash down off the West coast of the United States. So Jared, can you explain? Cause I am

01:51:24.680 shocked at just the responses from some of my tweets the people who say this is a waste of

01:51:30.820 money this makes no difference this is you know we didn't go in the first place uh all the way to

01:51:36.380 um this is just america's ego uh trip can you explain clearly to the average person why this

01:51:44.640 is not the apollo you know we're not going to get tang out of this that this actually will change

01:51:51.620 everything as we know it the space economy alone oh for for sure glenn thanks for the question

01:51:58.600 honestly we could be talking about this uh all afternoon like we we don't hit the pause button

01:52:03.560 on progress here in this country like we continue to move forward you know are the arguments good

01:52:09.400 that we have a lot of other problems and hardships we should be dealing with sure absolutely you know

01:52:13.920 what nasa's budget is it's a quarter percent of the discretionary budget i think that is a small

01:52:19.080 price to pay to go out and see what we, you know, what we might learn, what we might discover that

01:52:25.100 could have scientific potential, economic potential, geez, national security potential.

01:52:30.280 I mean, the high ground of space matters right now. And where we are going, we are going to the

01:52:35.280 moon, but it's going to be different this time. No doubt we are picking up after the pioneers from 0.99

01:52:39.800 the Apollo era, but we're going back to stay. We're building a moon base and we are going to

01:52:45.520 turn that moon base into a scientific and technological proving ground. We are going

01:52:50.020 to test things you can't do on Earth, you can't do in low Earth orbit where the International

01:52:55.840 Space Station is. And what we will learn there will help us someday go to Mars. This is our

01:53:01.520 destiny to go out and explore the solar system. I mean, it's part of our DNA. We've crossed all

01:53:07.380 the seas, we've climbed all the mountains, we've discovered all the islands. Well, you know where

01:53:11.080 the next grand adventure is it's out there in space so jared i i think that we are missing a

01:53:21.080 good portion of the american people i i'm i would not be surprised if it was only 20 of the american

01:53:26.500 people knew about this launch uh yesterday which is a crying shame um and then people don't really

01:53:33.440 understand it and when it's couched as this is just about discovery and science and crossing

01:53:40.320 into the unknown i don't think it connects connects with people as much as actually talking

01:53:48.580 about a spaceport about how this is the future this in ai that is the future of the economy

01:53:58.040 am i wrong no there's there's absolutely no doubt we all know that a orbital and eventually a lunar

01:54:06.240 economy is inevitable. I mean, we're going to be 3D printing with the lunar regolith at some

01:54:11.700 point in time in the future. You could be mining helium-3 on the moon, which can generate a more

01:54:16.360 efficient fusion reaction. I mean, right now, energy is everything, right? So there is absolutely

01:54:22.320 economic potential out there, but certainly scientific as well, right? Knowledge is absolutely

01:54:27.980 power. And then, look, I think an inherent component of everything we do at NASA is also

01:54:34.420 inspiration i guarantee you after this mission there are going to be more kids dressing up as

01:54:39.500 astronauts for halloween they're going to want to grow up and contribute to this adventure and

01:54:43.760 take humankind farther you know what what price do you put on that so we're going up in artemis

01:54:51.160 three i think next year right and um what is that one for this artemis four we actually land on the

01:55:00.760 moon right right so we are we are getting back to the basics uh the formula we used in the 1960s

01:55:06.920 that uh helped us achieve the near impossible then which is we are we're undertaking these

01:55:11.900 missions in phases learning to inform the next one so right now artemis 2 is testing the spacecraft

01:55:17.660 and just to give you an update those four astronauts right now are uh are getting one

01:55:22.380 heck of a view in a in a highly elliptical orbit so at its at its peak right now they're

01:55:28.520 approximately 43,000 miles away from Earth, right? And at its low point, they swing around

01:55:34.920 extremely fast, very low to Earth, about 115 miles above Earth. And they're going to stay there

01:55:40.780 until about another 12 hours or so. We're going to have a meeting and make sure all the systems

01:55:46.620 are good. And then we're going to send them on the translunar injection where they will go around 0.99

01:55:50.020 the moon farther into space than any humans have ever gone before. This is all a flight test for

01:55:54.980 this vehicle and rocket. That's Artemis II. Artemis III in 2027 is going to be very Apollo

01:56:00.440 9-esque, where we will rendezvous the spacecraft, Orion, with the landers, but we're going to do it

01:56:05.900 in Earth orbit, where we're close to home. And we're going to get very comfortable with the

01:56:09.620 integrated operations. And then in 2028, you're going to have Artemis IV, which will actually

01:56:14.680 land NASA astronauts on the moon. In parallel, though, we are building the moon base. Starting

01:56:20.260 in early 2027 literally on a nasa moon base website you are going to see robotic uncrewed

01:56:26.040 landings on a near monthly cadence as we start testing out mobility and power and navigation

01:56:32.000 uh you know surface uh surface improvement scientific experiments tech demonstrations

01:56:37.200 like actually working with the water ice on the moon we're going to do that in parallel building

01:56:42.280 the base so when our astronauts arrive they've got a lot of equipment to work with so can we

01:56:48.160 talk about why that's important to have a lot of equipment up there well i mean we've we've never

01:56:55.680 uh you know we've never inhabited another celestial body and i'll tell you and this is

01:57:00.300 remarkable and you know this of course for more than 25 years there has been a continuous american

01:57:05.580 presence in low earth orbit at the international space station so if you're 25 years old or younger

01:57:10.480 there hasn't been a time you've been alive on this planet where there weren't american astronauts

01:57:14.620 orbiting above you. But if you're going to put astronauts in space and keep them alive,

01:57:19.420 the best place to do it is low Earth orbit. You've got the atmosphere and Earth's magnetosphere there

01:57:24.120 that protect you from radiation and micrometeoids and orbital debris. But where you want to go next

01:57:29.680 is to the surface, the surface, the moon, where you can interact with the regolith. You can build

01:57:34.160 habitation. You can cover the habitation with regolith for protection against meteoroids and

01:57:39.100 radiation. You can work with the water ice. And if you can work with the water ice on the moon,

01:57:44.080 you can make hydrogen, you can make oxygen, and those are key propellants. And why does that

01:57:50.860 matter? Because when you send astronauts to Mars someday, you're going to need to make your own

01:57:55.160 propellant to come home. Better to prove that out on the moon when you're three days away than on

01:57:59.860 Mars when you're nine months away. But we're also, we're not that far ahead of China. I mean,

01:58:06.740 Russia's way behind. Other nations are way behind. But I know a lot of nations that do not want to

01:58:12.560 do business with china are rushing to us now and saying can we be a part of your space program

01:58:17.480 because it's going to be one or the other whoever gets there first is going to get the prime spot

01:58:24.760 unless we have you know loaded a lot of boxes in that area um uh and uh the leadership matters

01:58:33.520 does it not it does matter and i'll tell you that's that's changed under this uh under this

01:58:39.300 administration you know and under the prior administration you'd be shocked but a lot of

01:58:43.360 our international partners were actually considering and having discussions with the

01:58:48.060 chinese because they thought america's space program has lost its way that's changing now

01:58:53.880 we have it would we have launched it would we have launched yesterday had trump not and i don't

01:59:00.400 want to make that because it's impossible for you to answer this about you but if he hadn't have

01:59:04.440 made it possible for you to go in and you make the changes that needed to be made in the last year

01:59:10.840 would we have launched yesterday well i'll be very honest with you i uh artemis 2 for sure

01:59:16.740 would have launched at some point this year you know almost regardless of who's the president

01:59:22.380 the question is would we have an achievable plan to actually get back to the moon in the next you

01:59:28.560 know couple years the answer is no without the president trump's national space policy and

01:59:33.560 Without the investments from the one big, beautiful bill, we would not have the mandate or the resources to increase moon rocket production, launch again in 2027.

01:59:42.720 That critical risk buy-down mission of rendezvousing the spacecraft with the landers, we would not have had achievable path back to the surface.

01:59:50.920 We certainly would not have a moon base.

01:59:54.400 So one last question.

01:59:56.000 We're going to run out of time.

01:59:56.960 I could talk to you all day.

01:59:57.840 um i i i am a small government guy but i also love nasa um but i um i want to make sure that

02:00:07.860 we're smart and i think sometimes government almost always just becomes big and lumbering

02:00:12.940 and can't get out of its own way i like the fact that spacex blue origin and other private

02:00:20.020 companies are partnering do you see in the end nasa as kind of we would be running our military

02:00:28.400 and anything government needs to do but more of the the port and then we're charging these other

02:00:36.020 companies to come and use the port but our government is kind of in charge of the the big

02:00:41.800 port to space or do you see nasa as the full thing so i i think that the taxpayers all contribute

02:00:51.760 uh into nasa for us to do the near impossible what no company or other government agency or

02:00:57.720 other nation is capable of doing now that's not always been the case there are times you know

02:01:02.800 when you lose your way and you're doing a lot of things to make a lot of people happy and what you

02:01:07.160 find out is that as an agency, you're actually competing with the SpaceX's or the Blue Origins.

02:01:12.100 That's not how it is supposed to work. This is why we are recalibrating back to doing the near

02:01:17.220 impossible. We announced two weeks ago, Space Reactor 1 Freedom, a nuclear power and propulsion

02:01:23.580 spacecraft. It's an interplanetary spacecraft that we will launch in 2028. There are no humans

02:01:28.520 on board. It will carry the Skyfall scientific payload, which is three helicopters, if you will,

02:01:34.500 that are going to fly around the red planet and explore it.

02:01:37.400 That's what NASA is supposed to do. 1.00

02:01:39.220 Nuclear power and propulsion.

02:01:40.200 Unbelievable.

02:01:41.980 SpaceX and Blue Origin.

02:01:43.800 NASA figured out the chemical propulsion game a long time ago.

02:01:47.660 We handed it off to industry.

02:01:49.000 SpaceX and Blue Origin, through competitive dynamics,

02:01:52.060 have improved the capabilities.

02:01:53.900 You have reusability now.

02:01:55.180 It costs less.

02:01:55.880 Great.

02:01:56.140 That helps us in our mission to do more science and discovery,

02:01:59.260 to build a moon base.

02:02:00.320 But it means we need to shift focus and resources to doing what they can't do.

02:02:04.500 you know, there's no business case for nuclear reactors and nuclear power and propulsion in

02:02:08.580 space. That is something that NASA should be doing. Uh, and, and when we figure that out

02:02:14.180 someday, if there's a business case, we can hand it off to industry and then we'll work on our

02:02:17.320 fusion drives because someday we're going to, we're going to want to actually be able to have

02:02:20.640 a, uh, a mission to another star system. So NASA never goes at this alone. We didn't go alone in

02:02:26.260 the sixties. We work with our commercial partners and international partners to do the near

02:02:30.240 impossible. Jared, it's really exciting to know you and an honor to know you, and you are exactly

02:02:38.300 the right guy for the job at this time. Thank you so much, and congratulations to everybody on the

02:02:43.660 team all over the world that has put Artemis up, and we will continue to pray for the astronauts.

02:02:49.440 Thank you. Thank you. We'll keep you posted. I was glad to see you at the launch yesterday. Thanks

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The Glenn Beck Program - April 02, 2026

How NASA's Artemis Missions Will Transform the Economy ｜ Guests： Jared Isaacman & Charlie Duke ｜ 4⧸2⧸26

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