How Rush Limbaugh ‘Spawned’ Glenn Beck ｜ Guest： Christopher Rufo ｜ 2⧸18⧸21
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2 hours and 2 minutes
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137.4748
Summary
Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh had a lot in common. They were both born in the late 20th century, and they both had a deep love for Rush's radio show, Rush's Rush Rush Rush. Glenn and Rush both grew up in the 80s and early 90s, and Rush was one of the most influential voices in American politics at the height of his power.
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Rush Limbaugh and I have had one thing in common.
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And that is, every show, Rush didn't know what his first words were going to be.
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You could ask him right before he went on the air and he'd prepare for hours, five or six hours the night before, four hours before every program in the morning.
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And by noon Eastern time, he had his, what he called stacks of stuff arranged in front of him in columns.
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He could see the subject matter on everything he had and he could look at it.
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And early on, before Rush Limbaugh was, Rush Limbaugh, people would come in and say, okay, Rush, what are you going to talk about today?
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What do you, you know, what's the most important thing you're going to talk about today?
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Until the on-air light went on and he said those first words into his golden microphone.
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It was a spontaneous coming together of his thoughts.
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And no one, no one except talk radio people can understand that.
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The greatest actors, the greatest performers, they don't write their own script.
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Unlike us, unlike Rush, we speak for three hours every day unscripted.
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Unlike most, his desk was his broadcast studio.
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He didn't move from an office into a studio just before the program.
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When he arrived every morning, it was about a mile down from his house, he worked in his studio.
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It was built to be soundproof, but also have the very best creature comforts for a person to work from seven, eight, ten hours with minimal movement.
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My studio didn't have all the bells and whistles that his studio had.
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And nobody wanted to smell the recirculating cigar smoke.
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So God only knows how he got it done on a historic building, but he had a cigar vent put into the window.
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And the window put back together so it didn't disturb the historic building, and no one even knew it was there.
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In his studio for many years, there wasn't even a broadcast engineer.
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Later, when he lost his hearing, he needed a broadcast engineer to help hear the audio.
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His cochlear implants wouldn't pick up or discern.
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I was there when they found out that Rush Limbaugh had lost his hearing.
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And we had just heard that Rush, it was still quiet.
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No one was going to talk about it for at least another two weeks.
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And I remember listening to him at that time, and he was talking like this an awful lot.
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And he was forcing his voice down, and it sounded weird.
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Rush, that night I found out, he thought he was losing his lower register.
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And so he was forcing his voice down just a bit.
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I remember how the company did everything they could to help him through that.
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I remember he came back on the air, and he had two stenographers, an oscilloscope,
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and they had wired his board right where you would hear him do this.
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That board was wired, so it would send vibrations.
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So when someone was speaking on the phone, he could feel their voice.
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He could see the voice pattern through the oscilloscope.
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And two stenographers were writing down everything a caller was saying.
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In case one of them didn't get it right, he could compare the two.
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So he could watch in real time what they were saying, watch the voice pattern of the caller,
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and feel the voice with his hands while still processing what he was going to say.
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Tell me the person that can do that, and you never knew.
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He didn't know what his own voice sounded like anymore.
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While he was talking on the air, he couldn't hear himself.
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We hear ourselves on tape, and we think, that doesn't sound like me.
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You're just not used to not hearing it from the inside.
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You hear your voice different because it's coming from the inside.
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So you're not hearing it without all the resonance inside of you.
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He had that inflection because he had to remember what his muscles felt like when he was using inflection.
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He didn't like to take telephone calls, and after the cochlear implants, he couldn't.
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He would email, later text message, instant message.
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For a guy who's on the air all the time, you'd think that he'd have a lot to say, and people around him would want to hear him talk.
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I think that's one of the reasons why he knew the country so well.
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Rush Limbaugh is responsible for saving the AM band.
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RCA had invented FM radio back in the late 40s.
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The guy who actually invented it, I think his name was Armstrong,
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And Sarnoff, he had invented something much better than AM radio.
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there are too many AM radios to sell before we give up on this thing.
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And they sold more and more AM radios until they couldn't sell anymore.
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satellite was really starting to come into its own.
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But it was still mainly television or radio news.
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Satellite was just beginning to start to be used by radio,
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Because everything I said had to be followed by a guy who was just as insane as Glenn Beck,
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Nobody wanted to listen to a station like that.
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who had been turned down by so many great people,
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Jack was a guy who was one of the first to reach out to me and say,
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I think there's something to this talk radio thing.
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Rush went to work with this little radio station in Sacramento.
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they warn you that right now there is a scam going around,
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All you have to do is just give us all of your information.
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I'm going to give you my credit card number two.
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nobody can stop all cyber crime because it's everywhere.
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I'll put my credit card down in this little box right here.
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You're not going to catch everything by monitoring just your credit.
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There is something about successful people and entrepreneurs that is truly,
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These entrepreneurs that come from nothing and have no reason to believe that they can do anything better than their parents.
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I began to realize my dad was kind of a Willie Loman character,
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There was no reason for him to believe that his son could make it because he never really did.
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but every successful entrepreneur has that understanding.
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And then they're willing to apply themselves and not stand around and whine.
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And his father wasn't happy about these things.
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His radio gigs failed over and over and over again.
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He had to come home and live with his parents after a stint in Pittsburgh.
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I can remember taking a baseball bat out in the backyard and just
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So Ed McLaughlin was the president of ABC news.
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He was the guy who had all of this satellite time.
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He saw the success of this guy who everybody said would be a failure.
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And Ed was smart enough to see what was really going on with the Rush
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Limbaugh show in that small town of Sacramento.
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I was thinking about syndicating you in a time where syndication was
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You couldn't syndicate without satellite and satellite was so expensive.
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I remember hearing Rush Limbaugh for the first time in 1989.
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I remember him talking about the first Gulf war in ways I had never heard
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Saying things I had never heard saying the things like abortion is wrong.
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Something was very different about Rush Limbaugh.
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I've got a lot more to say about the great Rush Limbaugh.
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Birds are going to be flying south because it's good.
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you remember when your grandparents used to say that?
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I can feel my hand is flapping like a bird right now.
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I want to spend some time just talking about Rush Limbaugh.
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I think he deserves a day on the medium that he himself created.
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AM radio was over because of crystal clear stereo FM.
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They were playing music and then they tried this horrible idea of AM stereo.
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So I could get the crappy sound in both channels.
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Nothing was going to save AM radio until Rush Limbaugh.
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Rush Limbaugh at the end of the fairness doctrine,
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which was only put in because of the Democrats with JFK.
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But the only place after 1988 with Rush Limbaugh and after Reagan and the fair,
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Rush Limbaugh was the only place you could really go and hear a different point of view.
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You could hear somebody sit down and really explain and articulate why America believes what it does.
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Because all of us, all of us, all of us in radio.
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And I mean, all of us, I mean, those who are in music radio today.
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All of the sponsors, all of the things, all of the problems that these companies have gone through.
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Talk radio during COVID saved the AM and FM band.
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And in my opinion, that's two in the column for Rush Limbaugh.
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And because of what he created and because of what he led, he also saved the AM band, the FM band.
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You know, you can look at people that are individuals like JFK.
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Look what, I'm not, sorry, not JFK, but Martin Luther King.
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You can see what he did, but it wasn't just him.
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That was, there were big organizations behind him.
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He was called the most dangerous man in America by those in power and by those in the media for three decades.
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They tried everything to get Rush Limbaugh off the air.
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And I, I would be, it would be a mistake for me.
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I hesitate to even say this because I know the heat he will get.
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Bob Pittman and I don't agree on anything politically.
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And I'm sure it was the same with Rush Limbaugh.
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When Bob Pittman became the, uh, the head of Clear Channel, I was very nervous because he is not a conservative.
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What Bob Pittman is, is not just a good businessman, but a man who believes in freedom of speech.
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He does not believe in a country that shuts everyone down just because you don't agree with them.
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It would be a mistake to say that Rush did all of this on his own.
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But what others had to do was stand up for his right.
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Rush, when all odds are against us, Rush also created something different as well.
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The personal relationship with sponsors and bringing small companies on because nobody, nobody in the big companies are going to advertise.
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They don't want to be associated with all this hate.
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I can guarantee you that all those people that tweeted yesterday the hate have never listened to Rush Limbaugh.
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I've said many times before, and I think I originally got it from Rush Limbaugh.
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I can't write my show and do my show for people who don't listen.
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They are the ones who tear us apart because they don't take the time to actually even try to understand what we're saying.
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Try to understand, oh, that was a comedic comment.
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But if you try to say it on the right, especially on talk radio, you're the devil.
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You can judge a man by his friends, but you can also judge a man by his enemies.
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And Rush had some of the best enemies out there.
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They've spent millions of dollars to destroy him.
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The talk radio stations, when they were boycotted,
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When they were boycotted, the sponsors, the listeners,
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they went out and bought those products even more.
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I got an email from a really good friend yesterday.
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He used to be the president of Premier Talk Division.
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Then he went out and he did work for smaller businesses.
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He said, Glenn, I took the owners of Allen Brothers Steaks to meet Rush in Palm Beach one time.
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Rush had agreed to endorse their company and their commercials were to start in a few weeks.
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We entered the building, not wanting to be late, 3 p.m. sharp.
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We went up to the floor where Rush's studio was.
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He had just finished his show and he came out to the lobby meeting area to greet us.
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It is a true honor for you to have placed your trust in me.
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I love helping privately owned small businesses like yours grow.
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the colleges their children will be able to attend.
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To tell them stories about companies like yours.
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And it gives me great pleasure to further the advancement of capitalism,
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knowing how many people down the line will benefit from your ad.
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He then spent 30 minutes questioning the owners.
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How many hits per second can your website handle?
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He's going to try to crash our website, isn't he?
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you're going to spend some time talking about the foundations of the show
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and how you know Rush Limbaugh was very intimately involved in that
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um going back a few years but um I remember listening to Rush Limbaugh
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after high school and I wanted to get into radio but I really wanted to do kind of sports or you know comedy stuff and um I remember sitting on the beach in Fort Lauderdale after high school you know no money like the only thing I could do is go to a free beach and I had like a Walkman and listening to Rush Limbaugh not really ever thinking about politics all that much and I just remember him bringing up these arguments or callers
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bringing up these arguments that were like liberal points and you know like when you watch like law and order where like the prosecution makes their case and you totally think that that's true and then the defense makes their case and they totally like they totally bring you back and forth and I remember him you know these points would be made by liberals and I didn't know anything about politics and they seemed like good points and he had an answer for every one of them
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every single one of them he had the answer for and it always made much more sense than the initial point and he could he would he had that unique ability
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to be able to within a couple of sentences show how ridiculously absurd the leftist point was on any given topic this is why they worked so hard and spent so much time and money to make him into a monster because they needed to put an electric fence around him you couldn't let anyone into his audience and listen that's why they never debated
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anything he did anything he actually said yeah because he was so effective so that's why I said earlier Rush didn't do his show for the people who didn't listen you can't do that and that's the left because early on the left did listen to him and they realized this why they dubbed him the most dangerous man in America because they knew if you listen to him you'd have that experience you'd be like oh my gosh everything I thought I knew is wrong
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wait a minute that works and that works and that works with this this and this and and and that's that's the biggest Rush Limbaugh was very successful in any possible way you could count it
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but the left was also very successful in convincing half the country that he was an absolute monster monster he wasn't he wasn't
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this is their only defense yeah was to pull him out of context and make him toxic I'm gonna give you a I'm gonna give you an honest liberal uh diehard head of the national organization of women for a while and how Rush Limbaugh changed her coming up I want to talk to you a little bit about the zebra.com insurance can be complicated and that's why the zebra was created when you see the zebra.com insurance will finally feel like it's in black and white
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what you are about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment
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today we're taking the day to say to the world's problems i'll see you tomorrow i mean they're all
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going to be here the world is going to be on fire and there might be another part of the amazon that's
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burnt down overnight we can wait a day i think it's important that we give rush limbaugh
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the credit that rush limbaugh deserved uh he was a childlike you know christ said come to me as a child
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i think in some ways rush limbaugh was like that uh every time the pretenders theme played he became
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playful and childlike when meeting listeners or standing in front of an audience receiving a standing
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ovation when having simple friends over for dinner always childlike never childish
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it stemmed from he loved what he did he loved people and when that golden mic was turned on so was he
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it was 12 p.m eastern every day where he would enter the gates of his own self-built disney world
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for the very first time we honor this hour rush limbaugh in 60 seconds
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relieffactor.com from behind my cardboard microphone this is the glenn beck program
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with no hands tied behind my uh back and talent on loan from milton burrell who's been dead for a long
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time welcome to the program i will tell you i got into this this business
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this talk radio business in uh the late 1990s but i only did shows fill-in shows
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and i was sick of it and i got into talk radio because i felt i had something to say but
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i really got into it also because i wanted to make fun of it uh all these uh intellectuals that
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just of you know were high and mighty and most of them and that this time all the local ones were like
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attorneys that were all trying to get on and i'm an expert i'm a local official on the school council and
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they were boring as snot and i got into it because i wanted to make fun of all of it and i saw things
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in a completely different way i think rush limbaugh did the same thing in a way he was making fun of
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the roots of this show really kind of stem back to florida and and rush limbaugh
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uh i knew the first time we ever did a talk radio show stew will verify that this is true because he
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it was just like he was so sick of me and this is like 19 what 98 97 we did our first talk radio
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show and it was just it was for like an hour two hours maybe and i took my headphones off
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after the first break and i looked at him and he was running the board and helping produce and i
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looked at him over the board and i said we're gonna replace dr laura and he said what and i said
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this show is gonna replace dr laura and he said how about we finish our first show
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and i told him i said mark my words well the first time i i was on kind of a job interview i had done
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shows for wabc and i'd filled in here and there and but nobody would give me a job and uh
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uh i changed my life i was really struggling in the 90s i changed my life i was an alcoholic
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i was i was going on five years sober i had found a an amazing woman that loved me and uh also was
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just really good for me and then i met my wife too no i'm kidding uh but i married her tanya and
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i get baptized and the the day after my baptism i just remember this because of the i i tried for
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two years to try to get somebody to to you know represent me i talked to everybody i couldn't get
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anybody to represent me and uh it was a monday afternoon and my phone rings at my apartment and uh
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uh guy on the other side of the phone said uh hey i understand you're looking for an agent
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and i said uh yeah i have been for two years and he said uh my name is george hiltzik he was the
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biggest agent of radio at the time by far by far he had done everything in his career he was an nbc
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executive he was part of the original uh saturday night live legal team a legend george is a legend
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he's a legend uh he's a legend but anyway he calls me up and he said uh well i uh i heard from uh
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jack swanson at kgo that maybe i would i should pay attention to you uh and i said okay well thanks and he
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said well jack's the guy who passed on rush limbaugh so let's not get too excited joking
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and i said uh well that's great what do we do and he said well i want to check you out
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i want to check you out and he said uh i've heard many things about you good and bad
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he calls me back on wednesday and he said all right i'll take you on now i i'm thinking to myself
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over the last couple of days i'm thinking to myself there's a chance this guy won't take ten
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percent of my money and uh i said that to george he said i'll take you on i said really honestly
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i've been thinking about this for a while you mean to tell me that you would pass up ten percent of
01:31:26.920
what i'm already making because you wanted to check me out and see and he said you're entering a new
01:31:33.160
territory he said you want to go into talk radio he said you can't be a fraud in talk radio and i've
01:31:40.680
heard stories about you in the past but i understand that you're trying to change your life you've
01:31:45.880
sobered up you're stable and you're a good man and i said wow well thank you yes i am and he said
01:31:56.520
well that's why i'm taking you on because no one can fake who they are for three hours without a script
01:32:04.600
every day the audience is too smart they will figure you out and you're done he said and i've wasted my time
01:32:14.920
so i take that job i i take him as a as a client i get a job at wfla in florida
01:32:22.520
and i i had to do kind of a uh kind of a job tryout before and what they decided to do was to let me do my
01:32:34.760
first network show i had never i mean i like what did we have 20 shows in our back pocket that we had done
01:32:43.720
and uh and they said we want you to do this uh this uh network show and rush limbaugh has allowed
01:32:52.520
you has allowed us to uh put you into his studio in new york city and i'm like wait wait what
01:32:59.960
so i go in to the rush limbaugh studios and stew and i'll never forget this giant oil painting there's
01:33:06.120
a picture i think i tweeted today giant oil painting of rush behind the microphone and there's the golden
01:33:13.640
microphone and stew and i look at each other like i can't believe this and i did my first show
01:33:23.960
because of his kindness of letting us use that studio two years go by i'm working in florida and
01:33:31.240
we went from worst to first actually we went from worse to a lot worse uh to first in a two-year period
01:33:40.840
and um there was this one week and i don't even know i don't even know if i've asked you this did
01:33:47.640
you know who was on that phone line that week you don't even remember this so uh one week just before
01:33:58.120
premiere offers me a position uh the phone line uh at w uh fla is tied up all week during my show
01:34:09.240
started at three o'clock was over at seven one phone line was tied up and i didn't know why
01:34:19.320
well i find out later that rush limbaugh was listening to my show every day that week
01:34:27.960
good thing they didn't tell me that would have freaked me out
01:34:33.560
uh but he was he had been asked to listen to my show by premiere
01:34:44.600
the head of premiere craig kitchen goes down to florida to meet with rush
01:34:56.520
and craig said to me uh later after we started to really know each other
01:35:05.240
we were talking about this bogus with talent alone from god
01:35:12.200
and how how much of an act that was how humble he really was in person how quiet he was in person
01:35:20.520
he wasn't that beat his chest guy that that part was an act but his listeners knew that
01:35:27.880
they're in on the they're in on the joke in on the joke um
01:35:35.560
you know we had to ask rush for permission out of courtesy
01:35:40.200
to hire you and i said what they said yeah he listened
01:35:57.640
he listened we asked him to listen and i remember the phone line i'm like oh my gosh that's who it was
01:36:02.360
they had him listen for a week because they had so much deference for him because i was going to be
01:36:10.840
before him on the network they wanted to make sure that rush was okay with the lead in
01:36:18.520
apparently he said yes but the point of the story is is while he was sitting there at dinner when craig
01:36:23.960
sat down the first thing he said was it's been a good run it's been a great run
01:36:31.640
craig hasn't it and craig said yeah it has it's like we've accomplished a lot
01:36:39.160
and i'm i'm comfortable so don't worry about it
01:36:51.560
he actually thought that he was having dinner because they were going to say to him it's over
01:36:58.680
are you kidding me most people don't last 30 years in this business but rush limbaugh didn't
01:37:07.560
know he wasn't most people he still had the excitement and he still had the humility
01:37:16.200
to go it could be over at any time that's hard for somebody who's worth 600 million dollars
01:37:26.200
that's hard for somebody who has 27 million listeners a week to put that into perspective
01:37:33.720
colbert has about 3 million a night rush had 27 million a week
01:37:53.400
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golly well we have uh spent most of the show except for the last what 38 minutes now talking about
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what's frightening is as i said earlier you remember when you were at the ones at the head
01:40:12.680
or you were at the kids table and now you find yourself at the head of the table you know if
01:40:18.280
you're 50 60 years old and all the older people are are dying off you're like oh crap i'm the next for the
01:40:25.720
the dirt vault and uh and there's there was a lot of wisdom there at the table that now is lost
01:40:35.080
and i look at i look at all of us who remain who are now
01:40:43.400
what supposed to fill his shoes nobody can fill those
01:40:46.200
i look at us and we're all bluffing all of us are bluffing no matter what anybody says
01:40:52.840
they have no idea what they're doing they have no idea what they're doing
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oh maybe it's maybe it's just me maybe i'm the only one bluffing and they're all experts but i don't
01:41:01.800
think so uh and uh i feel badly for the next generation uh if there is a next generation because
01:41:13.320
you're having to you're having to learn from us good luck good luck with that so in the long run
01:41:20.280
kids what i'm saying is he was very optimistic but i don't think he paid that much attention to what was
01:41:27.640
following him so when it comes to good talk radio because now it's up to us
01:41:35.640
and it's more than just talk radio right i mean you know rush was so central to the conservative movement
01:41:42.120
i mean he was basically the head of it post reagan i mean it was basically rush limbaugh as the head of
01:41:49.640
the movement and you know he leaves a huge gap there you know i mean rush limbaugh is largely
01:41:57.000
the reason i'm a conservative i mean i coming out of high school i didn't
01:42:01.640
pay attention to politics at all reagan was for me but but limbaugh cemented things like you i knew
01:42:09.320
what i believed but i really hadn't you know the thing that was so frustrating with with rush was when
01:42:13.720
you would talk to friends before rush limbaugh was the anti-christ you'd talk to friends and you
01:42:19.560
would say you got to listen to this guy you got to listen to him yeah you'd be debating something
01:42:23.480
you'd be talking about and you're like i i can't say it like he says it i you just you have to listen
01:42:28.440
and that's the only frustrating thing is uh you know we're not all rush limbaugh no he was really
01:42:36.840
really good at this but you know he was that that approach was possible back then too you could win
01:42:42.360
people over by having people listen to rush limbaugh yeah because that's why they destroyed
01:42:46.760
him that's why they did it and of course you know partially because of things like social media where
01:42:51.080
things get taken out of context it wasn't what yeah i know you know most of the people you've
01:42:56.120
heard over the past couple days who are just dancing on rush limbaugh's grave in a grotesque ways
01:43:00.920
that i don't remember ever doing to a to a liberal um but you know the people reveal themselves in
01:43:07.800
these moments but they're dancing on his grave and most of them have literally never heard one
01:43:14.680
show not even an hour of rush limbaugh they've taken in only media matters bull crap uh sort of
01:43:21.160
clips out of context you know whatever bad joke they think he made 10 years ago that's been repeated
01:43:26.760
a thousand times and when you listen to him as a whole you realize that he was a broadcaster
01:43:33.000
entertainer a very smart person who was incredibly well read over a multitude of topics and a person
01:43:41.160
who could break down things into into little chunks that people could understand but as you point out
01:43:48.200
it's not just that it's not just a couple clever tweets that you could pull off today it's you know 15
01:43:53.800
hours a week uh without a script i mean yeah these hollywood types these even news anchors anybody that
01:44:02.120
you watch you have no idea you have no idea how few people can do what rush limbaugh did
01:44:10.360
talking without a script being able to do it for three hours uh that takes real intellectual heft
01:44:21.320
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many members of the uh media are taking um sick twisted glee in the death of uh rush limbaugh
01:45:58.840
and they're also trying to set the history uh against him uh make sure that that's meant
01:46:05.480
cemented in by playing all kinds of bad things that he have said that he has said uh either in
01:46:12.120
jest or in mistakes that he uh later apologized for um you know it doesn't matter to people anymore if
01:46:21.080
it's even true it doesn't matter anymore uh and he may be the last example of of somebody who's just
01:46:31.160
uh really bulletproof really bulletproof and even he had some scary times i was we were supposed to
01:46:40.280
be with him the day he lost his monday night football gig and uh that was a really weird day um and uh
01:46:50.440
and you know yet he had carved himself a place where he could you know continue to do what he did
01:46:58.600
because he listened to the listeners and that's what i did with the blaze and we are grateful
01:47:05.000
truly grateful that the only people we have to answer to are you and we ask you to join us um
01:47:12.280
at uh blaze tv.com slash glenn save 30 on your subscription now but uh talk radio is going to come
01:47:20.680
under attack because everything is and they have to shut you up uh last night i did a show uh our
01:47:27.080
wednesday night special on uh national suicide and what's actually killing our kids and i started
01:47:34.680
the show with christopher rue folks we started with the um non-literal suicide the national suicide
01:47:41.400
that that really comes from critical race theory christopher is the contributing editor for the
01:47:47.160
city journal and the director of center on wealth and poverty he is the guy who is really responsible for
01:47:53.400
for for rooting this out and and letting people know what critical race theory is and how deeply
01:48:00.920
embedded in the system if you missed last night's show we talked about um this curriculum that is in
01:48:07.720
public schools up in new york uh and they identify the eight white identities uh that you have and it starts
01:48:17.880
at white supremacist and then i think the i think one of them is a race trader and that's on the good
01:48:24.360
side of the scale by the way if you're a race trader if you're selling out the white race it's
01:48:28.680
it's it's crazy um i wanted to bring christopher back this is the only thing that we have done today
01:48:34.840
that is not uh related to rush limbaugh because i think this is so important chris welcome to the program
01:48:41.800
it's great to be with you thank you um first of all any thoughts on rush limbaugh did you listen to
01:48:48.440
yeah you know i i i didn't you know i i grew up actually uh i don't know if you know this glenn as
01:48:53.480
a kind of uh liberal bohemian in california that was my upbringing and really political orientation for
01:49:00.120
for most of my youth and then i started kind of questioning those assumptions it started to not
01:49:05.720
match with reality i started veering more towards the center and uh i wrote one of my first pieces for
01:49:10.520
city journal um where i was still kind of in the center maybe center right and rush read it on air
01:49:15.720
i got a flood of emails and it was very strange because i had been grown up hearing all of these
01:49:20.200
bad things about rush limbaugh and then i started listening i said oh interesting i rush limbaugh's
01:49:25.480
reading my story i started listening i said man what you heat what people in california and the people
01:49:30.680
that are spewing so much venom on twitter here is so different than what you actually hear from his words
01:49:36.840
and uh i i became a a fan uh subsequently and um you know it was very sad uh to hear the news yeah
01:49:44.040
i wanted to get tammy bruce maybe we get tammy bruce see if we can get tammy bruce on the show tomorrow
01:49:47.960
she tweeted something she was very very you know she was the head of the national organization of women
01:49:52.680
for a while and then she met rush limbaugh and uh it changed her life and she said the same thing
01:49:58.920
everything i believed and everything i had been told about him and his audience just wasn't true
01:50:04.120
um let's talk about critical race theory because i am getting uh messages from people who want to know
01:50:11.560
i have to go into a critical race theory kind of thing in my office and they'll fire me if i say
01:50:18.200
anything i saw accenture i think let a 30-year partner go because he spoke up against this and said
01:50:25.800
we shouldn't be doing any of this tell me about how critical race theory is going to be affecting
01:50:32.040
people if it hasn't already in their places of business and what they should do
01:50:37.960
yeah i mean if it if it isn't already in your workplace and your workplace is like a large
01:50:42.920
corporation a publicly owned firm it's coming and it's going to come under the guise of diversity
01:50:48.680
equity and inclusion programs which which sound great um but sometimes are really aggressive
01:50:55.480
uh propaganda and indoctrination campaigns can you can can you stay first what what the
01:51:01.880
difference between equality which our constitution talks about and equity which is critical race
01:51:08.360
theory what is the difference because they sound the same and people think ah equity equality it's
01:51:13.240
the same it's not yeah equality is the idea that we're all created uh equal under god and that we
01:51:19.880
the government uh should protect individual rights regardless of race creed color religion etc um
01:51:27.640
um and essentially it's the equal protection under the law equity is the critical race theorists
01:51:33.560
basically say hey equality hasn't worked we still have large racial disparities uh there's still kind
01:51:39.000
of systemic racism in society so they've abandoned the idea of equality treating people equally and
01:51:45.400
replaced it with equity which is treating groups as units and then trying to equalize outcomes based on
01:51:52.040
group identity um so it's a very kind of quick way to think about it is equality is something like
01:51:58.200
the equality of opportunity and equity uh is the equality of results uh which we've seen um over and
01:52:05.160
over in the 20th century lead to uh human and uh social disaster okay so i'm in my office thank god this
01:52:14.120
isn't happening at my company but i'm in i'm in my office and i get a note that says i have to attend
01:52:19.960
this racial diversity and equity class and i want nothing of it and maybe there are people in
01:52:28.200
my office but no one will say anything what do i do and what what happens if nobody does stand up against
01:52:38.600
it well there's a couple there's a couple things you can do one is if you feel confident enough and you
01:52:45.880
feel like you have the conviction to do so you can stand up you can speak out you can send a a letter
01:52:52.360
to the hr department letting them know that uh these theories don't actually lead to better outcomes in
01:52:57.640
the business literature uh they they put the firm at legal risk for lawsuits um and that they conflict
01:53:04.200
with your own deeply held beliefs how do wait wait how do how do they open up the firm for lawsuits
01:53:10.840
well you know i'm working on this uh but i think there's a strong case to be made and there's some
01:53:17.400
uh some kind of analogies in case law that if critical race theory for example traffics and
01:53:23.560
racial stereotypes they say white people can be reduced to the essence of whiteness and it's
01:53:28.840
it's analogous with oppression um you know that's a violation of the civil rights act if they compel
01:53:35.320
speech especially in public institutions um that's also a violation of the law and then if it creates
01:53:41.640
a toxic work environment which in many cases it does it's pitting people against each other
01:53:45.960
um it's it's it's creating a kind of race-based harassment which is a protected category again these
01:53:52.040
are all actual violations of the law and i think big companies are maybe the the quickest to potentially
01:53:58.920
change uh change tack because uh their legal departments if this starts becoming a cost center
01:54:05.640
if it starts becoming a legal risk if they start fearing lawsuits um they're going to probably disband
01:54:11.080
a lot of these programs pretty quickly so i i think that's one you know excellent way uh forward
01:54:16.440
that we could hopefully see unfold in the next few years you have giant companies are you you're read
01:54:21.160
up on uh the great reset chris yeah um i mean you see these uh what are called esgs uh these standards
01:54:30.520
in these big companies and that's the first red flag if you're if your company has an esg environmental
01:54:38.280
social justice and governmental standards um you're already in trouble
01:54:45.960
yeah and i think people are going to have to make a big decision if your beliefs uh your
01:54:50.520
politics your faith is important and you work at a company that is actively uh kind of mobilizing
01:54:57.080
against it um you have a tough ethical and moral choice to make do you stay and fight or do you find
01:55:03.000
employment with a company that lets you express yourself more authentically and i've talked to a
01:55:06.760
lot of people in the last six months where they say you know i i have these obligations i have a family
01:55:12.440
i have a career i have a reputation but this is just eating away at me this political indoctrination
01:55:18.840
trying to shame people trying to create collective guilt based on race or faith or identity um and i
01:55:26.280
i tell them you know you really have two options you have you're going to have to sit and take it
01:55:31.480
or you're going to have to have some courage and stand up for those convictions and in some cases
01:55:37.080
people are actually starting to fight back and in you know some cases even fewer unfortunately
01:55:41.960
they're actually having success at shutting down these programs um you um you did a great story
01:55:48.680
in the city journal on anti-racism comes to the heartland and you talk about springfield missouri how
01:55:56.360
the teachers are being forced to locate themselves on the oppression matrix which is what
01:56:04.680
the oppression matrix is a kind of graph or grid that was designed by some social justice academics that
01:56:11.400
basically said these are the the checklists that makes you an oppressor these are the checklist that
01:56:16.520
makes you an oppressed person so uh white male heterosexual english-speaking christians were the
01:56:22.680
kind of dominant oppressors and then you know the other side and and it was a middle school in
01:56:29.720
springfield missouri a place that is not a kind of progressive stronghold it's not la or new york and
01:56:35.720
they were forcing teachers to essentially locate themselves on this oppression matrix and telling
01:56:41.000
white male teachers you are an oppressor uh telling female or people of color that were teaching in
01:56:47.080
the system you are an oppressed um taking in none of the actual reality of the situation no one's
01:56:53.880
individual stories and categorizing them in this way and teachers were absolutely outraged um you know
01:56:59.800
they leaked me the documents and uh and uh hopefully the school district will think twice before doing it
01:57:04.680
again it it it it also they handed out uh flyers or some you know um uh training materials and the
01:57:13.240
handout originally listed maga as quote a form of covert white supremacy now they took that off because
01:57:21.640
people found out about it and so they went back into the hiding and they scampered under the refrigerator
01:57:27.720
like cockroaches do but uh mega this this is this should show you where we're headed when they say
01:57:36.360
hey we got to find extremists the the stuff that is being passed out to our teachers in schools
01:57:42.840
is really revealing on on who they think those dangerous extremists are and they're the people in the red
01:57:49.560
states yeah absolutely that's right and i think we've seen an evolution of language for the last four
01:57:56.520
years under uh the trump administration there was this drumbeat from the media constantly saying
01:58:02.360
making the association that white conservative christians are are by definition white supremacists
01:58:09.480
and there was a attempt to tie those two phrases together and then on january 6th and i know you
01:58:15.320
condemned it i condemned it the the violence at the capitol uh they were gleeful you could you could
01:58:21.240
those 72 years after they said this is our big opportunity we can now move from white supremacists
01:58:26.520
to white supremacist domestic terrorists and and it's a really a kind of maybe spontaneously coordinated
01:58:33.480
but clearly a a coordinated language campaign to basically create the connotation between conservative
01:58:40.200
and republican voters and white supremacists and domestic terrorists and these phrases are are dangerous i mean
01:58:47.000
it's a it's a truly you know the worst thing that can be uh and they're trying to basically annex all
01:58:54.520
conservative voters uh into that kind of linguistic umbrella um which then they could use to silence
01:59:01.480
to de-platform to uh outlaw and to marginalize um what i think is you know it's not a majority a
01:59:09.320
strong plurality of the country christopher ruffo thank you so much we'll talk again thank you for all of
01:59:15.400
your hard work uh you can follow him at on twitter at real chris ruffo r ufo or his website is christopher
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this is the glenbeck program it is weird for the first time in what 19 or 20 years uh it's the first
02:01:34.280
time i haven't thought okay what is limbaugh leading with and how can i lead into that with him uh first
02:01:42.840
time i know it's it's a it's an end of a an era is an understatement with this one yes this is really
02:01:49.800
tough it it may be the beginning of a new era and a very frightening era i'm scared i know i i know i
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know uh couldn't come at a worse time uh than uh than it just did um i just looked up at the screen
02:02:05.400
uh on msnbc how to manage life after receiving the covet 19 vaccine well gee that makes me want to run out
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and get it first of all how to manage life after you get the vaccine i don't know go back to doing
02:02:20.440
your work and doing your life the whole point of it gosh they should be encouraging people hey guess
02:02:25.240
what get the vaccine you get to go back to your life if you've already had coven you get to go back
02:02:28.680
to your life no no no no we all have to wear masks after you had the vaccine and you've had the virus