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00:02:16.800 Welcome to the fusion of entertainment

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00:02:35.540 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:36.780 I'm gonna show you, kids.

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00:02:45.920 First, let me ask you.

00:02:47.240 Stu, what do you think the big story of the day is?

00:02:50.640 I would say...

00:02:51.400 What's the big story we have to hit?

00:02:52.580 Columbia, maybe?

00:02:53.380 The occupation of Columbia?

00:02:56.200 You know, I mean, by the way, that was...

00:02:58.140 I want you to know, not an insurrection of Columbia.

00:03:02.760 No, definitely wasn't.

00:03:03.620 Did not hear that at all.

00:03:05.580 No, it wasn't even the darkest day in our history since, I don't know, Monday.

00:03:10.760 Right.

00:03:10.900 So, it was nothing to see there.

00:03:14.480 But kids, I just want you to know, this is why Stu's not in the Hall of Fame, and I am.

00:03:19.340 Because the biggest story is about cannibalism.

00:03:24.220 Yes, now, the president gave this cockamamie story about cannibalism.

00:03:27.900 You know, his uncle was eaten by cannibals.

00:03:30.260 I don't think any of that is true.

00:03:32.800 And he even, you know, by doing so, he put our long-standing friendship with New Guinea in jeopardy.

00:03:40.460 I mean, that's hard to do, but he did it.

00:03:44.280 Cannibalism.

00:03:45.100 It's actually happening, and I will show you.

00:03:48.260 It's happening in Washington.

00:03:49.520 I will show you the evidence of it in 60 seconds.

00:03:54.560 That's why Stu will never be in the Hall of Fame.

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00:05:12.080 Sarah, I think we need the Cannibal Update.

00:05:15.860 Do we have the Cannibal Update music?

00:05:19.000 Because I have been very concerned about cannibalism ever since Joe Biden brought it up, and I thought,

00:05:26.160 it's cannibalism, you know.

00:05:28.340 We all thought it was over, but then again, we all thought the Soviet Union was over, right?

00:05:32.520 We thought that threat was over.

00:05:35.880 Cannibalism is real, and it's on display, and it involves, well, let me show you.

00:05:44.240 Here is Nancy Pelosi involved in cannibalism on MSNBC.

00:05:50.080 And Joe Biden is doing that, created 9 million jobs in his term in office.

00:05:55.960 Donald Trump has the worst record of job loss of any president.

00:06:01.220 So we just have to make sure people know.

00:06:03.720 That was a global pandemic.

00:06:06.400 He had the worst record of any president.

00:06:09.740 We've had other concerns in our country.

00:06:11.920 If you want to be an apologist for Donald Trump, that may be your role, but it ain't mine.

00:06:17.460 I don't think that anybody can accuse me of that.

00:06:19.800 No, but let me just say, as a Speaker of the House, we put forth a $3 trillion bill,

00:06:26.640 $3 trillion of investment in communities and the rest, and that stimulates the economy.

00:06:32.780 Now, I don't know which one is in the pot here, which one's eating the other, but they are eating each other.

00:06:39.660 So cannibalism, another update coming soon, because it seems to be going around now, and that's a real problem.

00:06:49.000 Now, let's do go to Colombia, because what happened there yesterday was definitely not an insurrection.

00:06:56.200 Right, Stu?

00:06:56.920 Definitely not.

00:06:57.680 No insurrection there.

00:06:59.720 No, not at all.

00:07:00.940 It was a protestors, Glenn.

00:07:02.840 Those were protestors, peacefully protesting, mostly, in favor of the rapists and murderers in Hamas.

00:07:12.460 That's all.

00:07:13.040 That's all that was.

00:07:14.180 Okay.

00:07:14.820 Okay.

00:07:15.480 Well, let me show you some things that happened.

00:07:18.180 This is in a library in Virginia.

00:07:21.740 I mean, listen to that noise.

00:07:27.200 The librarian, her head exploded immediately.

00:07:29.480 She was like, shh.

00:07:32.400 They were, riot police were there.

00:07:34.580 They stormed and took over the library at the Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond, Virginia.

00:07:41.960 And they continued to talk out loud, not in whispers.

00:07:45.980 And it was not good.

00:07:47.560 It was not good.

00:07:48.080 But here is, from UCLA, a Jewish student that is being blocked from using the main entrance.

00:07:59.040 I have my ID right here.

00:08:00.860 I'm being blocked off, not by the security guard, but by U2.

00:08:04.500 U3.

00:08:05.280 Oh, look, they're making their burger while I'm going this way.

00:08:07.240 Excuse me.

00:08:07.660 This is what they do.

00:08:08.880 Everybody, look at this.

00:08:09.740 Look at this.

00:08:10.700 I'm a UCLA student.

00:08:11.860 I deserve to go here.

00:08:13.320 We pay tuition.

00:08:14.100 This is our school.

00:08:15.420 And they're not letting me walk in.

00:08:16.960 My class is over there.

00:08:18.080 I want to use that entrance.

00:08:19.620 Well, I can't take it.

00:08:20.160 Will you let me go in?

00:08:21.560 This could be over in a second.

00:08:22.900 Just let me and my friends go in to class.

00:08:27.160 We're not engaging.

00:08:28.200 Then you can move.

00:08:29.740 Will you move?

00:08:31.300 We're not engaging.

00:08:32.820 Okay, we're going.

00:08:34.740 We're not engaging.

00:08:35.880 I'm going in.

00:08:37.420 I don't, I have my hands up.

00:08:38.620 His hands are up.

00:08:39.020 I'm not hurting them.

00:08:40.880 I'm not hurting them.

00:08:42.460 That's what they do.

00:08:43.300 That's what they do, everybody.

00:08:44.880 You guys are promoting aggression.

00:08:47.100 You guys are promoting hate.

00:08:49.220 We're UCLA students.

00:08:49.960 We deserve to be there.

00:08:53.000 True, but he's forgotten all the microaggressions.

00:08:56.240 Stu, your thoughts.

00:08:57.520 Oh, well, I mean, I think we should give an award to the security guard who stands there

00:09:02.740 and does absolutely nothing and allows them to block this person's progress as he's trying

00:09:07.980 to go to class.

00:09:09.060 That's just like, wow, you know, he should get a Hamas award.

00:09:13.160 Congratulations to him.

00:09:15.600 I mean, that's completely, completely unbelievable that they're allowing this to go on.

00:09:22.200 And it's happening in campus after campus after campus.

00:09:26.920 Did you see the latest polls that Americans are for Israel?

00:09:31.660 I think it's like 80%, something like that, for Israel.

00:09:35.900 I know.

00:09:36.860 I was talking to somebody like, oh, man, that's good to see.

00:09:39.760 Because you do see in the media, a lot of times, it feels like, I don't know, this is

00:09:43.480 like some close call.

00:09:44.960 And Americans are like, what is it, 75, 25 in favor of Israel over Hamas.

00:09:50.300 And I said, that's terrible.

00:09:53.020 75% of people, Israel over Hamas?

00:09:56.760 Not even like a hidden, oh, the Palestinian people or whatever they usually pitch.

00:10:02.220 No, this is the actual recognized terrorist group was used in the poll.

00:10:07.980 This should be 99 to 1.

00:10:10.340 75% sucks for that poll.

00:10:13.360 I guess, I guess I've just been beaten down so far.

00:10:19.320 I'm just like, oh, that's good.

00:10:21.320 12 people in America are still for the Jews.

00:10:25.780 It's a little beaten down by it, you know, just a little bit.

00:10:29.360 Do you see what the University of Florida said yesterday?

00:10:33.040 That they're not going to tolerate it.

00:10:35.520 They are not a preschool.

00:10:36.840 You know the rules, you break them, you're out.

00:10:43.620 Boy, I can't imagine living in that fascistic society of Florida.

00:10:47.760 Can you imagine that?

00:10:48.640 They hold you to the rules.

00:10:49.940 You sign, you know, when you sign up for school, you read the rule book, you're breaking the

00:10:53.980 rules, you're out.

00:10:55.220 Where everywhere else, they're negotiating with these people, you know?

00:10:59.820 And I just think negotiating with terrorists is such a smart idea.

00:11:05.500 It's so, it's, well, so today, you know, so open-minded, so woke, so great.

00:11:12.580 So one of the, I think it was Northwesterns negotiated to have Palestinians, you know, come

00:11:20.100 up and speak on campus.

00:11:22.820 So they're going to get some, I don't know, Hamas members.

00:11:26.080 Why not?

00:11:26.480 I mean, they did it with the Nazis.

00:11:27.820 They literally did this exact same thing with the Nazis in the 1930s.

00:11:32.340 Why should we expect a different outcome?

00:11:34.560 It's the same kind of people, the same group of people.

00:11:39.720 They're fine with that.

00:11:41.060 Totally fine with that.

00:11:42.400 By the way, Spielberg is now doing propaganda for Joe Biden.

00:11:48.900 I mean, no, he's not.

00:11:50.400 He's just, he's looking into ways, it's not propaganda.

00:11:53.920 He's looking in ways to enhance the president's message.

00:11:57.020 And help that message get out, like Nancy Pelosi just did.

00:12:01.600 I love that.

00:12:03.060 She was shocked when somebody in the media turned around and said, it was a pandemic.

00:12:07.680 But that's what everybody says.

00:12:09.000 Play that again.

00:12:09.860 That's what everybody says to their television when they hear that stat.

00:12:13.960 Everybody says that.

00:12:15.120 And Joe Biden is doing that, created 9 million jobs in his term in office.

00:12:22.100 Donald Trump has the worst record of job loss of any president.

00:12:27.300 So we just have to make sure people know.

00:12:29.840 That was a global pandemic.

00:12:32.560 He had the worst record of any president.

00:12:35.960 We've had other concerns in our country.

00:12:38.060 If you want to be an apologist for Donald Trump, that may be your role.

00:12:42.560 But it ain't mine.

00:12:43.540 She doesn't have any real comeback for it.

00:12:47.360 No.

00:12:47.660 She has never been challenged on that.

00:12:50.100 She's literally stunned in that moment that someone would point out to her the most obvious

00:12:54.700 thing in the world that every single voter understands.

00:12:59.840 And this is showing up in the polls like crazy, that people don't even look at the pandemic

00:13:04.220 as part of Trump's economy.

00:13:05.840 They don't judge it that way.

00:13:07.560 They look at it and they say, well, it was doing really well before this really terrible

00:13:11.300 thing that happened.

00:13:12.980 Obviously, a lot of jobs were lost.

00:13:15.180 And obviously, the American people wound up coming back to work after it was over.

00:13:21.520 And Biden's trying to take credit for all that.

00:13:23.280 And the most fascinating part about this is if you're going to criticize Trump on his

00:13:28.180 performance in the economy when it comes to the pandemic, you're going to hit him on the

00:13:32.320 shutdowns, right?

00:13:33.040 Like he was in favor of the shutdowns early, which, OK, I think that's a fair criticism.

00:13:37.740 Certainly from the right, it's a fair criticism.

00:13:39.940 However, the Democrats supported every single one of those policies and tried to drag out the

00:13:44.200 shutdowns for another year and a half after Trump stopped supporting them.

00:13:47.680 So there's absolutely no argument whatsoever.

00:13:50.140 Everybody knows, everyone remembers COVID-19.

00:13:54.540 Everyone remembers the period.

00:13:55.860 Everyone remembers being told they couldn't go to work anymore for a few months.

00:14:00.220 Everybody remembers this.

00:14:01.440 And the fact that they keep trying to pitch this is so insultingly stupid that Katie Tour

00:14:05.600 can't even let it happen on MSNBC.

00:14:08.560 And she's called a Trump apologist for it.

00:14:11.120 Yeah, she's just, Katie Tour, she is not, she's not a conservative.

00:14:17.780 No.

00:14:18.000 She's not even anywhere close to that.

00:14:20.140 She can't stand Donald Trump.

00:14:21.400 She can't stand him.

00:14:22.700 She's just, she's embarrassed.

00:14:23.900 Fair is not even a word.

00:14:25.240 She's embarrassed by the point that Nancy Pelosi is making.

00:14:28.180 She feels that the internal pull to, she has to point it out.

00:14:33.180 It's such a stupid point.

00:14:35.000 And I feel like I actually, Glenn, have a bit of sympathy for certain Democrats in these

00:14:39.440 moments where like, you know, Katie Tour, who's obviously no conservative, is like, what

00:14:45.400 do you mean a Trump apologist?

00:14:46.680 Look at what I've, look at my record.

00:14:48.280 I've done nothing but bash Trump for years and years and years and years.

00:14:51.400 The same thing with Joe Biden.

00:14:52.800 He's being criticized as genocide Joe.

00:14:55.420 He's done so much to hurt the Jews.

00:14:58.500 Why are you, why are you, he's done so much to ruin their ability to kill terrorists and

00:15:07.080 stop their people from being raped.

00:15:09.000 He's done so much.

00:15:10.420 He's contributed so much to this cause and these protesters won't give him credit for

00:15:14.040 it.

00:15:14.400 I think, I personally think that this is genocide Joe is, it's, it's better to call him genocide

00:15:20.480 Joe from our side than their side.

00:15:23.120 He's been funding the Iranians who wanted genocide on all the Jews.

00:15:29.900 I mean, he is genocide Joe.

00:15:32.560 They're just mixed up on, on who he wants to help kill.

00:15:36.340 By the way, this is what you would call propaganda.

00:15:40.040 What happened on MSNBC with Nancy Pelosi is propaganda.

00:15:45.000 And she was shocked that there was somebody supposedly on her side that would not play the

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00:17:56.120 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:17:57.940 We're glad that you are listening.

00:17:59.540 I don't know if you saw the OnlyFans star, Farrah Khalidi.

00:18:06.060 Do we have the audio of her?

00:18:07.680 She was yesterday doing an interview and she's a big influencer on TikTok and here's what

00:18:17.620 she talked about.

00:18:19.340 I started TikTok the spring semester of my senior year and I was like, fuck, I finally

00:18:23.780 have to start applying for law school.

00:18:25.040 And then female privilege, life is so easy for a woman.

00:18:29.040 Obviously, I lucked out.

00:18:30.000 I'm just kidding.

00:18:30.420 I lucked out.

00:18:31.080 And then TikTok was basically full-time for me.

00:18:33.320 I think I was taking ads by the time I graduated college from the Biden administration and Planned

00:18:37.820 Parenthood and dating apps and stuff.

00:18:39.520 So it was fully financially sustained.

00:18:41.860 So you were getting the Biden administration was buying ads from you?

00:18:44.560 Yeah, I was doing full-on political propaganda.

00:18:46.740 And they would just say, oh, really?

00:18:47.920 What kind of Biden created 10 million jobs this year?

00:18:50.880 Yeah, honestly.

00:18:51.480 And the funny thing is, they're like, do not disclose this is an ad because, you know,

00:18:55.400 they're like, technically, it's not a product.

00:18:56.580 So you don't have to disclose it's an ad.

00:18:58.080 Because I think they just wanted like some edgy girl of color to just tell people like

00:19:02.220 when they nominated like Ketanji Brown Jacks and they're like, can you say like as a person

00:19:06.140 of color, you know, that you feel reflected?

00:19:08.300 And it's like a white woman emailing this to me and she's like giving me this script.

00:19:11.360 And I'm like, no.

00:19:12.240 And she's like, please.

00:19:12.900 And I'm like, no, I'll say I'll like talk about the news of it.

00:19:15.040 But I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to have a white person tell me to be like,

00:19:18.460 you know, this is how I feel as a person of color.

00:19:20.500 Like, it's just so I think that black filled me slightly on like, you know, political propaganda.

00:19:25.560 So the Biden administration sees, oh, here's this young.

00:19:28.480 Yeah, I mean, they use like a conduit.

00:19:29.980 It's not like, you know what I mean?

00:19:30.940 It's not Biden, but it's like a it's like a third party.

00:19:34.520 You know what I mean?

00:19:34.840 It's like a media company that's doing it on his behalf.

00:19:37.520 I'm not blaming him for this.

00:19:39.220 And the message is like, because you're a dark skinned woman, you will be inspired by

00:19:44.020 Ketanji Brown Jackson and all the kids should support her.

00:19:46.400 Yeah, they're like basically as like another black person.

00:19:48.420 And just say that, like, you feel reflected by Ketanji.

00:19:51.220 I'm like, no, I'll talk about like Ketanji's background and her accomplishments.

00:19:53.520 But like, I never, you know what I mean?

00:19:55.140 Like, I'll never, I'm not going to say like the corny stuff, even if it was a brown person

00:19:58.440 emailing it to me.

00:19:58.980 I'm like, no, that's not like how I feel.

00:20:00.560 Like, I don't look at like Ketanji and feel like, wow.

00:20:02.580 Yeah.

00:20:04.760 Hmm.

00:20:05.500 Yeah.

00:20:06.780 Yeah.

00:20:07.280 You know, what caught me there was it's not officially a product.

00:20:11.380 So you don't have to disclose that it's an ad.

00:20:18.220 First of all, I don't know if that's true, by the way.

00:20:20.800 Yeah.

00:20:21.780 First of all, I don't think that's true.

00:20:24.340 Second of all, notice that she went along with it.

00:20:32.340 She said, well, yeah, but I'm not going to say the things they wanted me to say.

00:20:37.020 I'll talk about those things.

00:20:38.980 But I'm not.

00:20:39.420 Well, no, you're still engaged in what you know to be propaganda.

00:20:45.680 And you were fine with that.

00:20:47.680 You know, the reason why I always say this half hour brought to you by or our sponsor

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00:21:14.840 Because when that happens and you figure it out, you feel betrayed.

00:21:22.560 I know this because I know I feel that way.

00:21:25.100 Oh, wait a minute.

00:21:25.720 How much of this thing was a damn commercial?

00:21:27.940 How much of it does he really believe?

00:21:29.760 And how much is he being paid for?

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00:21:34.940 I reject more than I accept.

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00:21:42.880 And so, you know, you're just like, get to it.

00:21:45.540 I don't really care.

00:21:47.600 But does anybody feel betrayed?

00:21:51.180 Is anybody worried?

00:21:54.640 Where is the precious news media?

00:21:58.020 Can you imagine if I were doing that and Donald Trump, through surrogates, was paying me to

00:22:05.120 talk about certain things that he had done and then wanted me to say, you know, and I really feel validated by this.

00:22:12.700 I really do.

00:22:13.460 Because, you know, he likes white people and I'm a white person.

00:22:17.760 And so I really feel validated by that.

00:22:20.020 And I didn't tell you that he was paying me to say that.

00:22:23.720 It's grotesque for me to say that if he, even if he weren't paying me.

00:22:29.400 But if he's paying me and I don't tell you, what is wrong with our country?

00:22:34.940 It's amazing.

00:22:35.620 If you can't trust Farha Khalidi.

00:22:40.300 Who can you trust?

00:22:41.120 Who can you trust?

00:22:42.260 Who can you trust?

00:22:43.320 Well, I mean, what's the difference between what Steven Spielberg is now doing for the White House?

00:22:47.360 Steven Spielberg is now helping him orchestrate propaganda and orchestrate, you know, how to lie to the American people and pull it off.

00:23:00.980 What is the difference?

00:23:03.740 Does nobody on the left care about the truth anymore?

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00:23:08.920 I think the average Democrat does care about the truth, but the left certainly doesn't.

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00:24:28.720 So a couple of weeks ago, there was a Greek Orthodox bishop that was stabbed while blessing the sacrament during his mass.

00:24:55.540 He was stabbed by a Muslim man and stabbed in the face and in the eye.

00:25:01.880 We didn't know how he was faring.

00:25:04.060 We knew that he was going to recover shortly thereafter.

00:25:07.560 But he is back at work.

00:25:09.280 Now, let me refresh your memory on who this guy is.

00:25:12.280 And we welcome Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed into the studio.

00:25:16.220 If you remember, this is the guy.

00:25:18.940 Well, play the incident because it was broadcast live.

00:25:22.020 Stabbed in the head, Allah Akbar.

00:25:36.440 Now, they wanted this removed because it was causing people to look at the Islamic extremism and say, hey, this is a problem.

00:25:48.440 The government didn't want anything to do with that.

00:25:50.600 So they told the media, they told TikTok, they told Facebook, Google, have it all removed.

00:26:01.200 YouTube, have all of this removed.

00:26:02.860 Well, X wouldn't because, you know, Elon Musk said this is history and you have a right to see this.

00:26:10.280 Well, the government came bearing down on him.

00:26:13.340 Listen to this from their prime minister.

00:26:16.520 Well, this guy is showing his arrogance.

00:26:18.800 He's a billionaire over there in the United States who thinks he's above Australian law.

00:26:25.020 And the idea that someone would go to court for the right to put up violent content on a platform shows how out of touch Mr. Musk is.

00:26:36.760 Stop.

00:26:37.420 This is not violent content.

00:26:38.620 It is history.

00:26:40.780 It's history.

00:26:42.200 Now, listen to the senator from Australia saying the same thing about Elon Musk.

00:26:48.260 This isn't about freedom of speech.

00:26:50.380 No, no, no.

00:26:50.720 Next one.

00:26:51.100 Next one, please.

00:26:52.840 Do you have the next one?

00:26:56.060 The senator?

00:26:56.900 If not, no big deal.

00:26:58.460 Okay.

00:26:58.900 Now, Bishop Marmari has returned and he gave his sermon.

00:27:06.280 Cut five.

00:27:07.360 Listen to this.

00:27:07.940 I say to our beloved, the Australian government and our beloved prime minister, the honorable Mr. Albanese.

00:27:22.700 I believe in one thing, and that is the integrity and the identity of the human being.

00:27:39.380 This is my belief, and this is above all my Christian belief, for this human identity, this human integrity is a God-given gift.

00:27:57.400 No one else.

00:27:57.940 Every human being has the right to the freedom of speech and freedom of religion.

00:28:10.260 Every human being.

00:28:12.660 The Buddhist has the right to express their belief.

00:28:17.380 The Hindus have the right to express their beliefs.

00:28:21.380 The Muslims have the right to express their beliefs.

00:28:24.440 The atheists have the right to express their beliefs.

00:28:29.720 Also, the Christians have the right to express their beliefs.

00:28:37.540 And for us to say that free speech is dangerous, that free speech cannot be possible in a democratic country,

00:28:52.420 I'm yet to say, I'm yet to fathom this.

00:28:58.260 I'm yet to fathom this.

00:29:02.020 We should be able as civilized human beings, as intellectuals,

00:29:09.700 We should be able to criticize, to speak, and maybe at some certain times we may sound or we may come across offensive to somewhat degree.

00:29:25.520 But we should be able to say, I should not worry for my life to be exposed to threat or to be taken away.

00:29:38.120 His sermons are so clear on what we're facing with good versus evil.

00:29:46.560 This is one of the reasons why they wanted this swept.

00:29:49.720 They don't want to make him even bigger than he already is in Australia.

00:29:53.300 Because he is saying the things that anybody who understands freedom believes in.

00:29:59.840 One last clip, and then I'd like to get Pat's thoughts on this.

00:30:03.620 One last.

00:30:04.520 This is the first part of his sermon.

00:30:07.440 Cut four.

00:30:08.480 Listen to this.

00:30:09.660 I've said it before.

00:30:10.480 This message to the attacker.

00:30:11.180 This young man who did this act almost two weeks ago.

00:30:19.240 I say to you, my dear, you are my son.

00:30:24.880 And you will always be my son.

00:30:28.440 I will always pray for you.

00:30:31.100 I'll always wish you nothing but the best.

00:30:33.080 I pray that my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, to enlighten your heart, enlighten your soul, your entire being.

00:30:43.960 To realize, my dear, there is only one God who art in heaven.

00:30:49.940 The creator of all mankind and everything else that is visible and invisible.

00:30:56.020 And I say with absolute love, confidence, and humility, that God is Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

00:31:04.360 Amen.

00:31:05.600 But you are my son, my dear.

00:31:07.920 And the Lord knows it is coming from the bottom of my heart.

00:31:12.500 I'll always pray for you.

00:31:14.460 And for whoever was in this act, in the name of my Jesus, I forgive you.

00:31:21.940 I love you.

00:31:24.280 And I will always pray for you.

00:31:26.600 For me, it's a priceless gift that I am not worthy of.

00:31:34.640 I pray the Lord accepts it.

00:31:38.800 That's what faith should be teaching all of us.

00:31:43.980 That's what our religion should be teaching us.

00:31:46.720 To stand up against unrighteous power, but also forgive those who hate you so much, they'll kill you.

00:31:58.100 That's a remarkable, remarkable man in Australia.

00:32:03.920 Better Christian than I am.

00:32:05.400 I don't think two weeks later I'd be saying those same things.

00:32:09.720 I really don't.

00:32:11.060 I think I might be harboring a little bit of ill will still toward it.

00:32:15.720 It might take me a little longer than two weeks.

00:32:17.780 I don't know.

00:32:19.000 It's impressive.

00:32:19.360 I have to tell you, I am always surprised at the number of people who, you know, a drunk driver will kill their child or anything else.

00:32:28.520 And, you know, I would have a harder time with my children than with me.

00:32:33.440 It would be so hard.

00:32:35.240 And I'm always amazed at those people, like the Amish, that the guy came in and slaughtered all of their children in school.

00:32:45.240 He was a milk truck driver, lived in town, walked in, lost his marbles, shot all of their children.

00:32:52.000 And while they were all gathered around the school, their bodies still being pulled out, the family, somebody said to the Amish, oh, my gosh, his wife.

00:33:04.560 We're not the only ones that lost somebody.

00:33:07.680 His wife and child are at home, probably scared to death.

00:33:12.580 And imagine being that woman standing in that house, knowing that your husband just killed all these Amish children and you see coming up your sidewalk all these Amish parents.

00:33:24.620 Okay.

00:33:24.940 She knocks on the door.

00:33:26.860 They knock on the door.

00:33:28.040 They open it up and said, you are our sister.

00:33:30.960 We forgive your husband and you had nothing to do with this.

00:33:34.980 They not only forgive her and comfort her, but they refuse her, you know, in a nice way, refuse her from leaving.

00:33:45.100 They say to her, you are now part of our family.

00:33:49.420 They rebuild part of her house.

00:33:51.560 I mean, it's amazing when people forgive.

00:33:55.360 Yeah.

00:33:55.680 The Bible tells you to be like Jesus.

00:33:58.080 It doesn't necessarily say it's going to be easy.

00:33:59.480 Like, do your best to kind of act like this guy.

00:34:04.720 Probably not going to be the piece of cake after you've been stabbed in the eyeball.

00:34:08.160 Yeah.

00:34:08.480 Right?

00:34:09.040 Yeah.

00:34:09.220 It is amazing that people can find that strength in those moments.

00:34:13.380 Maybe it's a hint to us when we get, you know, we get a little annoyed at somebody online that maybe abandoning all of our principles to get the right retort in is not the right approach.

00:34:25.060 Let me play one more piece.

00:34:27.060 And I want to talk about this later, maybe tomorrow.

00:34:29.480 But Russell Brand was baptized over the weekend.

00:34:33.260 Listen to what he said about his baptism.

00:34:35.460 As a person that has in the past taken many, many substances and always been disappointed with their inability to deliver the kind of tranquility and peace and even transcendence.

00:34:46.160 So I always felt I've been looking for something occurred in the process of baptism that was incredible, overwhelming, literally overwhelming because I was obviously underwater and it was the River Thames at some points.

00:34:59.340 So I felt changed.

00:35:01.340 So I felt changed, transitioned.

00:35:03.520 Now, of course, even though it's been less than 24 hours in the interim period, I've already felt like sort of irritation.

00:35:09.560 I've got three children, I've got a job, I've got challenges.

00:35:12.480 I still live in the world.

00:35:13.280 But I feel as if some new resource within me has switched on.

00:35:17.560 So many of your comments have been so beautiful and encouraging and I really appreciate it.

00:35:21.600 And also even the cynicism, I understand because some people will just see me as a celebrity.

00:35:26.780 I don't see me as a celebrity because I was me when I was a little boy.

00:35:29.680 I was me when I was a junkie.

00:35:30.920 I was me when I was poor.

00:35:32.200 I've been me in all of the different phases.

00:35:34.200 But I recognise that anything in this terrain, in the social media world, could be exploited and utilised.

00:35:40.900 For me, I've made the decision and I know what the decision is.

00:35:45.800 I've made it for myself and I pray that it will be relevant to my family, in particular my children.

00:35:51.220 My wife's Catholic.

00:35:52.220 You know, she's already made her own choices in this life, including this one.

00:35:57.400 This is new for me.

00:35:58.620 I'm learning and I will make mistakes.

00:36:00.780 But this is my path now and I already feel incredibly blessed, relieved, nourished, held.

00:36:11.640 Pat was the one who baptised me in the waters and I felt exactly the same as Russell Brand.

00:36:18.360 And he's going to make mistakes, just like I continue to make mistakes to this day.

00:36:23.260 You're not, you're still a human being.

00:36:26.840 But it is a powerful, powerful thing that changed my life, I think, overnight.

00:36:33.960 How long did it take you, Pat, to see the changes in me?

00:36:38.640 Oh, it was, yeah, it was definitely fast.

00:36:42.080 After your baptism, definitely fast.

00:36:44.540 And I know people back then that thought, oh, he's just doing this.

00:36:48.700 He's just trying to, you know, exactly what they're saying about Russell Brand.

00:36:51.700 The change in him has been astounding, though, hasn't it?

00:36:55.860 I mean, he has been.

00:36:56.940 He was despicable.

00:36:58.340 I couldn't stand to listen to the guy 15 years ago.

00:37:01.620 And now look at him.

00:37:03.580 I know.

00:37:04.360 Not only has he changed religiously, spiritually, but politically, too.

00:37:09.800 He's pretty listenable now.

00:37:12.280 I mean, I will tell you, which direction would you rather go down?

00:37:17.920 The direction where Russell Brand has changed that much, and he's much more of a peaceful individual, wants to, you know, hear other sides, understand people, he loves people, or the Russell Brand that he was before.

00:37:34.020 Well, you know, would you rather be on the Russell Brand path or the one that is happening on our campuses, the ones that are society, wokeness, the high priests of the universities, the gods that are in the White House and the administration and Congress, that they think they are?

00:37:53.920 Which one leads you to happiness?

00:37:56.680 It's amazingly simple, the choice, but amazingly, not everybody is seeing that, but more and more are.

00:38:09.360 And for that, praise God.

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00:41:41.680 Hey!

00:41:44.160 Good heavens.

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00:41:49.260 Right, Stu?

00:41:50.300 Yeah, that was kind of misreported in some places that he said he couldn't.

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00:42:04.320 May 17th is the date, and he can go to Barron's graduation.

00:42:07.820 So congratulations to the family.

00:42:08.440 That's really nice.

00:42:10.220 That is really, really nice.

00:42:12.300 That judge.

00:42:13.660 Maybe I've been wrong about him.

00:42:15.120 Nope.

00:42:15.400 No, I'm not.

00:42:15.800 So we have that going for us.

00:42:20.360 Keep Donald Trump and keep America, all the republic.

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00:42:46.620 So yesterday, Tucker Carlson released an interview with the man who I have said is the most dangerous man in the world, Alexander Dugan.

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00:45:23.480 Hello, America.

00:45:25.540 Yesterday, a video was released of an interview with Tucker Carlson and Alexander Dugan,

00:45:31.680 a guy that I have said for years is one of, if not the, most dangerous man on the planet.

00:45:40.180 He is the architect of the friendship now with Russia and Iran.

00:45:47.200 He is the architect of the Crimea invasion.

00:45:50.520 He is also a man who believes he can hasten the return of the promised one,

00:45:55.160 meaning let's get to the apocalypse quickly.

00:45:59.900 He believes that capitalism is, what did he say it was?

00:46:05.620 I want to get him exactly right.

00:46:08.060 Capitalism is a virus.

00:46:11.780 And he believes the United States of America is the Antichrist.

00:46:16.340 Now, none of that came up in the very short interview with Tucker Carlson.

00:46:21.840 Why?

00:46:22.300 Because Carlson was offered this interview.

00:46:24.980 And if I were Tucker Carlson, I would have taken it as well.

00:46:28.660 And I would, it's very rare that you find somebody,

00:46:32.500 very rare that you find somebody who really knows who Alexander Dugan is.

00:46:37.520 He talks a great game.

00:46:39.680 I think he has, he has crystallized the problems in such a fashion that even I will listen to him and go,

00:46:49.020 yep, he's right.

00:46:49.960 Yep, he's right.

00:46:51.880 It's his solutions to the problem.

00:46:55.900 That's what Tucker did not get to because it was only a short 20 minute interview.

00:47:01.280 Dugan's very good at this.

00:47:03.200 So it is important before you watch this interview, or if you've already watched it,

00:47:08.100 that you understand who Alexander Dugan is,

00:47:11.440 because this is a massive trap for Americans and freedom lovers all over the world and all over the West.

00:47:20.080 We're going to bring Stephen Hicks, Professor Stephen Hicks in.

00:47:23.780 He knows Alexander Dugan.

00:47:25.360 He is a professor of philosophy.

00:47:29.060 And Dugan says he's just a philosopher, but he's not.

00:47:33.140 He's a political strategist as well as a philosopher and a dangerous man.

00:47:39.820 And you'll understand why by the end of this hour.

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00:48:56.420 I want to welcome to the program, it's always an honor to talk to him,

00:48:59.920 Rockford University Philosophy Professor, Center for Ethics and Entrepreneurship Executive Director, Stephen Hicks.

00:49:07.140 Hello, Stephen.

00:49:07.780 How are you, sir?

00:49:08.340 I am very well.

00:49:10.000 Thanks for having me on again, Glenn.

00:49:11.760 You bet.

00:49:12.660 So I watched this interview, and I know that Tucker didn't know who he was, Alexander Dugan,

00:49:19.520 because when he was over there, I said, be careful if you're involved with Alexander Dugan.

00:49:26.980 And that, unfortunately, I said that right before he left.

00:49:29.520 So he had already done the interview, and he said, not really sure about this guy.

00:49:36.480 And I don't think really had done his homework because it came up last minute.

00:49:42.240 But also, Dugan is hard to nail down if you just look at him on the surface.

00:49:50.300 Would you agree with that?

00:49:52.440 Well, sure.

00:49:53.660 TV interviewers will often underprepare, and they don't necessarily have the philosophical and strategic depth to understand.

00:50:02.520 And as you were suggesting, Dugan is a slippery character.

00:50:05.580 At the same time, he is deep.

00:50:08.180 He is a philosopher as well as being a strategist.

00:50:11.500 But at the same time, I don't want to let someone like Tucker Carlson off the hook,

00:50:15.600 because we do have enough historical knowledge about the kinds of positions that Dugan is offering.

00:50:21.380 He is repackaging ideas and strategies that have been well worked over in the 20th century.

00:50:27.760 And so we should be up to speed on that.

00:50:30.140 And so I think partly what we need is a little philosophical uprushing,

00:50:33.720 but also some historical reminders of history repeating itself.

00:50:37.780 So let me play just a little bit of what he said to Tucker yesterday, and we'll start there.

00:50:42.640 Here's a clip from the Tucker Carlson interview with Alexander Dugan.

00:50:45.820 And after the fall of the Soviet Union, there was only liberalism.

00:50:49.820 And Francis Fukuyama has pointed out correctly that there are no more any ideologies except of liberalism.

00:50:57.680 And liberalism, that was liberation of this individual from any kind of collective identity.

00:51:04.800 There were only two collective identities to liberate from.

00:51:11.720 Gender identity, because it is collective identity.

00:51:15.140 You are man or woman collectively, so you could not be alone.

00:51:20.360 So liberation from gender.

00:51:23.320 And that has led to transgenders, to LGBT, and new form of sexual individualism.

00:51:32.120 So sex is something optional.

00:51:37.100 And that was not just deviation of liberalism.

00:51:42.560 That was necessary elements of implementation and the victory of this liberal ideology.

00:51:49.040 And the last step that is not yet totally made is liberation from human identity.

00:51:56.960 Humanity optional.

00:51:58.160 And now we are choosing, or you in the West, you are choosing the sex you want, as you want.

00:52:06.040 And the last step in this process of liberalism, implementation of liberalism, will mean precisely

00:52:14.340 the human optional.

00:52:16.980 So you can choose your individual identity to be human, not to be human.

00:52:22.700 And that has a name.

00:52:24.200 Transhumanism, posthumanism, singularity, artificial intelligence, Klaus Schwab, Kurzweil, or Harari.

00:52:35.000 They openly declare that is inevitable future of humanity.

00:52:39.720 So we arrive to the historical terminal station that we finally, five centuries ago, we have

00:52:50.560 embarked on this train.

00:52:52.020 And now we are arriving at the last station.

00:52:54.480 So what he's saying here is that liberalism, meaning the classic liberalism, where you're

00:53:02.720 an individual, it's not collective, et cetera, et cetera.

00:53:05.620 He says the inevitable end is progressivism and then some dystopian future.

00:53:12.100 But I don't think that's right.

00:53:14.380 I'd love to hear from you.

00:53:16.560 Liberalism doesn't lead to progressivism.

00:53:19.320 Marxism leads to progressivism.

00:53:21.480 Yeah, the first half of the Dugan clip, I think, is correct.

00:53:25.600 The second half is a massive equivocation.

00:53:28.400 I think philosophically he should know better.

00:53:30.660 I think he's doing some tactical rhetoric against the West in talking about the transgenderism.

00:53:36.740 So let's take those two in part.

00:53:38.980 So first part is fall of the Soviet Union.

00:53:41.940 I think Dugan is exactly right.

00:53:44.020 What played out in the 20th century left only some sort of liberalism standing in the field.

00:53:49.480 The 20th century was a huge ideological battle.

00:53:53.420 I think Dugan's analysis is correct.

00:53:55.380 It's the kind of analysis I've argued and many other people have argued as well.

00:53:59.760 The 20th century was about some sort of liberalism versus some sort of fascism or national socialism

00:54:06.340 versus some sort of Marxist communism.

00:54:10.140 We fought world wars.

00:54:11.760 We fought cold wars.

00:54:12.900 We fought many trench warfare, ideological wars as well.

00:54:17.460 What happened was fascism was defeated.

00:54:19.720 National socialism was defeated.

00:54:21.540 And by 1991, Marxist communism was defeated.

00:54:25.460 And so what seemed to be almost inevitable, I don't want to use the inevitability language,

00:54:30.620 but was that some sort of liberal democracy, capitalism, individualism, modernity was triumphant.

00:54:38.680 So I think that part is exactly right.

00:54:41.800 Now, where I think Dugan goes wrong is in what happens next.

00:54:46.280 My view is that what happened was that liberalism took a breather.

00:54:50.180 We've been fighting wars, ideological and actual wars for over a century.

00:54:54.460 We let our guard down.

00:54:57.320 We're relaxed.

00:54:58.060 We kind of thought everybody is going to get on board.

00:55:01.240 And some sort of liberal, democratic, capitalist, modern future is slowly then going to prevail

00:55:07.560 over the next generation.

00:55:09.740 Now, what actually happened, though, was that the fascists, the national socialists, the

00:55:15.440 authoritarians, the communists, the Marxists of various sorts did not simply go away and

00:55:21.720 give up the fight.

00:55:22.340 Instead, they started to repackage themselves.

00:55:25.380 And then inside the now triumphant West, there were counter movements that started to

00:55:30.440 reassert themselves.

00:55:32.660 And then we started to see then by the time we get to 2010, 2015 or so, that those counter

00:55:39.240 Western movements inside the West are reasserting themselves and everybody starts to become aware

00:55:45.220 of them.

00:55:46.500 And the particularly nasty forms of transgenderism, I know I think there is a legitimate version

00:55:51.820 of transgenderism that reasonable and sensitive people will take wear of, but weaponized

00:55:58.880 transgenderism of the particularly violent form that we're sometimes dealing with, that is

00:56:05.680 a different phenomenon.

00:56:07.080 So the second part, then, is what Dubin wants to do is to say, and this is the part that you

00:56:12.860 were picking up on, that the relativism, the angry activism, the willingness to let everything

00:56:21.700 burn inside the West that we're now confronting with, the virulent forms of Islamism that we are

00:56:30.060 now confronting, and so on, the total package of anti-Western, anti-liberalisms, where did

00:56:36.780 those come from?

00:56:38.380 Now, I agree those are pathological, they are very destructive, but what Dubin is offering

00:56:44.800 is a thesis that says that those anti-liberalisms are themselves an outgrowth of liberalism, and

00:56:53.480 that, I think, is simply false.

00:56:58.160 So, when he says, you know, an end to modernity and liberalism, he's actually, I mean, one of

00:57:07.180 the first things I found about Dubin that opened my eyes was his statement that fascism with

00:57:17.800 Mussolini, Mussolini, he says, was a very brave person, as was Hitler, but it didn't

00:57:24.080 work, but they understood that international communism was not good, so they went for national

00:57:31.920 communism or socialism, which became fascist, and he said where the two of them went wrong

00:57:36.900 was they offered too many compromises.

00:57:40.820 He said the future, yeah, the future is fascism without compromise.

00:57:48.620 That's a little terrifying.

00:57:50.280 Yeah, so this is 1990s Dubin, in the first decade after the fall of the Soviet Union, and

00:57:57.000 he's a strange character, right, at this point, he's already, you know, adopted various forms

00:58:03.200 of Nazism in the 1980s, and at this point, he's not a young man, he's in his late 20s, he's

00:58:09.280 in his early 30s, so he's a mature thinker.

00:58:13.080 He hates liberalism already, he hates modernity, he hates the West in its entirety.

00:58:17.800 At the same time, he's dissatisfied with all of what's going on in the Soviet Union, its

00:58:24.620 version of communism and Marxism.

00:58:26.760 When the Soviet Union falls, though, he is co-founder of a national Bolshevik party, and

00:58:33.940 the Bolsheviks, of course, were Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, and so on.

00:58:36.980 So it's a reworking of a kind of communist Marxism, but the nationalism is important there for him.

00:58:45.240 And he then, within a few years, settles on saying what we need to do is just rework fascism.

00:58:51.940 So he is widely and explicitly admiring of Mussolini and some of the German fascists of the 1920s and

00:59:03.200 early 1930s.

00:59:04.420 And he publishes an article in 1997 called Fascism, Borderless, and Red.

00:59:10.780 The red part means blood, and it means a little bit of incorporation of Marxism.

00:59:16.280 That's going to be a bloody, violent revolution that we need.

00:59:20.760 And the borderless part is also there, that we need to expand Russia's border.

00:59:24.900 We need to be expansionist.

00:59:26.880 What we need is a kind of national socialism.

00:59:30.820 And he takes the socialism seriously, economic control.

00:59:34.100 But it's not going to be a socialism where we take, so to speak, the Russian people and we make

00:59:38.800 them fit into some abstract socialist template.

00:59:42.040 This is the fascist part.

00:59:43.280 We need to take the Russian people, its particular ethnic identity, including its religion, its

00:59:49.900 cultures, its traditions, see it as having a world historical destiny.

00:59:55.240 It's going to lead the world to a new, bright future that's not going to be

00:59:59.860 trapped in the old Marxist way.

01:00:04.460 It's not, and as you're suggesting, it's going to learn from the failures of the earlier

01:00:09.280 versions of fascism and national socialism.

01:00:12.200 And what that is going to involve is a willing to be muscular, a willing to be violent, a willing

01:00:18.980 to take ethnicity and nationalism seriously, and not to compromise one jot with capitalism

01:00:26.760 with any form of Western liberalism.

01:00:29.260 So, yes, that's Dugan by the time we get to the late 1990s.

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01:01:52.080 So, Stephen, are you saying that in the 1990s, that's who he was, but he has rejected or

01:02:08.200 he has he has just enhanced this within his way of calling it the fourth political theory?

01:02:14.880 Yeah, fourth political theory published that in 2009.

01:02:18.300 So he's now in his 40s.

01:02:19.840 There is a slight evolution.

01:02:22.820 So he starts to abjure the fascist label.

01:02:25.620 Fascism has had terrible press, deservedly so.

01:02:29.060 So he wants to back away a little from the label.

01:02:32.700 But in fact, he absorbs still 95% of the fascist principles and reworks them with a different label.

01:02:41.340 So what happens by the time we get to the fourth political theory is that he adds officially

01:02:46.740 fascism to the list of failed theories.

01:02:48.760 He thinks liberalism is immoral, disgusting.

01:02:51.980 We need to defeat it.

01:02:52.820 Communism has failed.

01:02:54.840 Fascism has failed.

01:02:56.080 But he wants to evolve in a couple of directions.

01:02:59.140 One direction is that fascism is explicitly nationalistic.

01:03:04.380 So it's going to be a kind of a collective authoritarianism for the Italian people, taking it in Mussolini's form.

01:03:12.820 So taking the ethnicity of Italians, their religion, their language, their traditions, and so forth,

01:03:18.640 as somehow special, and that you are part of a collective identity by being an Italian person.

01:03:24.500 And you're not an individual.

01:03:25.560 You absorb yourself into that ethnicity with the leadership on top, the authoritarian leadership that Mussolini is going to provide.

01:03:34.540 So that is ethnic.

01:03:37.760 In the German case, it's a combination of ethnicity.

01:03:42.220 The German ethnicity is special, but there's also a materialistic racial component that the Germans,

01:03:50.540 and they go back and forth between saying we are racist versus we are ethnic.

01:03:55.760 And what Guggen is clear is to say that he's not a materialist.

01:04:00.240 He's going to offer a more spiritual, philosophical, metaphysical understanding of what it is to be the right kind of person,

01:04:08.220 the right kind of collective, and it has to be ethnic.

01:04:12.180 So he abjures any sort of racialist language more explicitly by the time we get to the 90s.

01:04:20.000 But he's still collective and so forth.

01:04:22.320 And the other thing is that...

01:04:23.760 In fact, hang on just a second.

01:04:24.660 Let me just throw this quote in before you leave collective.

01:04:27.120 He said, quote,

01:04:28.120 We propose the theory that every human identity is acceptable and justified except for that of the individual and individualism.

01:04:40.380 Liberalism must be defeated and destroyed, and the individual must be thrown off his pedestal, end quote.

01:04:47.020 Yeah, exactly right.

01:04:48.540 So it's the Western liberals, right, who are individualistic.

01:04:52.560 We believe every individual has the rights to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, control your own conscience, freedom of religion, and so forth.

01:05:03.000 All of those individualistic elements, Duggan is rejecting.

01:05:07.380 And he's rejecting them agreeing with the theorists of fascism, the theorists of national socialism, and the updated versions that he is in favor of for Russia.

01:05:18.920 Now, if you reject individualism, though, the question is, what group forms your identity properly?

01:05:26.520 Now, it's true.

01:05:27.420 In 2009, in the quotation that you just read, he's pretty open to saying there are lots of different group identities that are possible and legitimate.

01:05:37.280 And so there's a direct connection to all of the identity politics that's floating around in Western circle right now.

01:05:44.840 Should it be your racial identity?

01:05:46.600 Should it be your gender identity?

01:05:48.160 Should it be your religious identity?

01:05:49.780 Should it be your ethnic identity?

01:05:51.220 And so forth.

01:05:52.200 And he's open to any form of groupism or collectivism right at that point, as long as it's not valorizing the individual.

01:06:01.120 So I want to come back because he is very attractive on some of the things that he says, because he's diagnosing one particular problem that I think is real.

01:06:14.480 And we'll get to that here in just a second.

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01:07:31.180 Welcome to the program.

01:07:48.100 Yesterday, an interview that Tucker Carlson did while he was in Russia was released.

01:07:53.760 It was about 20 minutes, and I applaud everyone for having a conversation.

01:07:58.800 Tucker has said many times, it's important to see and understand how our adversaries view us.

01:08:03.720 Well, that wasn't clear in this.

01:08:07.700 He just diagnosed a problem, as Alexander Dugan always does, and enough to open a door to people, have people say, oh, well, I think I might agree with that.

01:08:18.440 It is really important.

01:08:20.900 What Tucker has begun, we have to now continue that conversation so people on our side will not fall victim to this guy.

01:08:29.480 They talked about how his books, people want his books to be banned.

01:08:32.820 I don't.

01:08:33.440 I want you to read him in his own words.

01:08:36.120 There will be stuff at the beginning of the book you'll go, yeah, yeah, he knows me.

01:08:40.260 And then by the time you're at the end of the book, you're like, this is a horror show, literally a horror show.

01:08:46.400 But you should read him.

01:08:48.320 Jefferson, when we went into our first foreign war, which was against the Muslim pirates, insisted that everybody read the Koran.

01:08:56.060 If you really want to understand the absurdity of it all, he said, you need to read this in their own words.

01:09:02.920 Now, let's get down to it.

01:09:06.760 One of the things that he says, Stephen Hicks is with us.

01:09:10.080 One of the things he says, Stephen, a lot of the time is about this feeling of nationalism.

01:09:17.320 And people in the press don't get it.

01:09:20.340 They think Brexit was an evil thing and people that people were extremists.

01:09:27.200 No, there are people in Norway.

01:09:29.820 There are people in Italy.

01:09:32.460 There are people in Greece and in in the Great Britain that are proud of their country and should be proud of their country.

01:09:40.040 And when you say don't fly your flag, fly instead the European Union flag, that's not who they are.

01:09:47.820 And they feel like they're being snuffed out, just like Americans now feel that our culture is under attack.

01:09:53.800 Our history, our very existence and what we've always stood for is is being wiped out.

01:10:00.240 And people can be against that without being haters.

01:10:04.620 But he zeroes in on that and and says the collective state image is really important.

01:10:14.160 And I think that's where he begins to connect with people.

01:10:17.520 And then people don't look any further.

01:10:20.180 Do you agree with any of that, Stephen?

01:10:22.600 Well, nationalism is a term that needs some some careful delineation.

01:10:27.700 And often it gets packaged with all sorts of unsavory stuff.

01:10:31.400 And that's partly what Dugan is is doing.

01:10:34.660 It's one thing to say we need to have an authoritarian bureaucratic regime centered in Brussels and the European Union.

01:10:43.640 Or the United Nations or something like that.

01:10:46.140 And that's going to trample over regional differences, national differences, ethnic differences, and turn us all into homogeneous robots of some sort.

01:10:55.880 It's fine to be against that.

01:10:58.740 And to see that as a kind of foil.

01:11:02.340 At the same time, nationalism sometimes just means, you know, I happen to have been born in a certain ethnicity within a certain nation.

01:11:10.340 And because I was born here, I'm just unthinkingly getting my identity and my allegiance to whatever my my particular government does as well.

01:11:20.020 I think both of those are inappropriate right ways to use nationalism.

01:11:24.900 So the issue of nations is to me, I think it's a secondary or even a tertiary issue about what level of political organization we should have in place, how much should things should be local at the state or regional level, how much at the national, international level and so on.

01:11:43.440 So it's a it's an issue of kind of appropriate bureaucratic and administrative governance.

01:11:51.360 But the important content issue is what is the purpose of your governance?

01:11:56.660 And it's one thing to say, I live in a nation that takes individuals and their freedoms and their rights very seriously.

01:12:04.500 And we have a government that exists to protect individuals in their freedoms and their and their their property rights and so forth.

01:12:12.220 And because I live in a nation that is striving for that moral set of principles, I am proud of my nation.

01:12:21.360 And that kind of patriotism or nationalism or identification with your country, I think, is perfectly perfectly appropriate.

01:12:30.200 There are some nations that are much better on that and some nations that are much worse on that.

01:12:36.000 At the same time, there are lots of levels of organization that should be international.

01:12:41.780 So we should be able to trade with people in different parts of the world.

01:12:47.100 We should have business agreements and so forth that are international and any sort of my nation is going to block off access to your nation and so forth.

01:12:59.700 I think that is that's inappropriate.

01:13:01.540 So sorting out what is properly protecting the rights and freedoms of individuals.

01:13:09.020 And sometimes that's going to be at a national level and sometimes that's going to be more open and international.

01:13:14.340 That's something that political scientists need to to work out.

01:13:18.660 Now, what Dugan, though, is doing is wanting to say it's not at all about the individual.

01:13:23.660 It's not about liberties at all.

01:13:25.600 That's what the quotation you earlier alluded to is is all about.

01:13:29.880 He does see it as collective entities that are organized at the ethnic level for the most part of his career.

01:13:38.200 He thought the nation state was the right level of analysis and that the different collective national identities are at war with each other or at least at conflict with each other.

01:13:49.860 And so one needs to be willing to enter into the into that fray and be violent with respect to other nations to put up borders to try to sabotage them in in various ways.

01:14:01.800 Now, that kind of nationalism takes him back to the fascism, takes him back to the to the to the national socialism.

01:14:09.800 It takes him back even to some versions of Marxist communism where they wanted to argue that it was our nation where the Marxist revolution is going to have to happen first.

01:14:20.900 And we are in a bloody conflict with all of the other nations that are more capitalist and democratic and so forth.

01:14:26.840 And then and only after we have succeeded at making the Marxist revolution in this one nation, can we start thinking about being more broadly, broadly internationalist.

01:14:38.700 Now, Dugan, though, I think the nationalism for him is partly tactical because one of the things that he has been doing in the last 10 years, maybe 15 years now,

01:14:49.320 is broadening and no longer just seeing that Russia in some sense has a special ethnic identity, that it is the world historical nation that's going to lead us to a bright and better future.

01:15:02.380 He started to talk more like a pan Eurasianist, that the right level of analysis is not Russia as a nation, but more broadly, the Eurasian continent and all of its constituent peoples.

01:15:18.060 So there we start to see him thinking more in terms of empire, the old Russian empire.

01:15:24.580 Of course, Russia will have a special place at that.

01:15:27.820 But you see him in his rhetoric and in his arguments, not wanting to say that it's Russia, say, against the Ukrainians or Russia against the Kazakh nation and so forth.

01:15:41.560 That he wants to incorporate all of them into a pan Eurasian empire.

01:15:47.060 And that's going to be the right level of analysis.

01:15:49.780 That's what will be pitted against the Western liberal alliance.

01:15:54.480 So that is when I when I heard the first Tucker interview with Putin, I thought that's what he was going for.

01:16:01.420 That's what Putin was going for.

01:16:03.060 He was setting the stage for, well, we're actually much bigger than what everybody thinks of.

01:16:10.240 And he's setting the stage for a restoration of the the not the Soviet, but the the imperial Russian empire.

01:16:22.100 Right.

01:16:23.420 So there is there is one thing.

01:16:25.760 And, Stephen, I am.

01:16:26.940 So we're so blessed to have you for 45 minutes.

01:16:28.880 I don't know if you have time tomorrow to do another session with us, because the next part of Dugan is where it gets where it goes way off the rails and gets even more terrifying than fascism with not without compromise.

01:16:44.300 And that is his religious angles that he puts on top of it, where he says the United States is the Antichrist.

01:16:54.060 And we can hate the great Satan that we are that that we need to kind of hasten the apocalypse because it just won't happen on its own.

01:17:06.660 And the world I mean, this sounds like a twelver from from Iran, but they need to wash the world in blood because it will only be through extreme violence that will be able to reset the world in a in a world that we only saw before modernity.

01:17:28.660 No, absolutely.

01:17:30.660 Yeah, they put Putin's use of religion and Dugan's ideological understanding of religion and strategizing about religion certainly worth another 45 minutes so we can plan that if you want.

01:17:42.340 Oh, I'd love to love to.

01:17:43.720 Thank you, Stephen.

01:17:44.940 Thank you so much for everything you do.

01:17:46.280 And thanks for making this easy to understand.

01:17:47.980 I would you would you agree that Dugan, if you know, he's he's the guy behind Crimea, he's the really the kind of the guy connecting Russia to Iran and his philosophy, if it if it actually takes root in the West, that I think I think he's one of the most dangerous men in the world.

01:18:13.120 Would you agree with that?

01:18:14.320 Well, I yeah, I think philosophers are often underrated.

01:18:18.900 We we can see John Locke's importance to the American revolutionaries, Rousseau's importance to the French revolutionaries, Marx's importance and so on.

01:18:29.840 So this is a little crystal ball gazing.

01:18:32.380 But yes, Dugan is a clear, inspirational writer.

01:18:37.300 I don't know what level of access he has to Dugan's inner circle and so forth.

01:18:41.960 But yeah, when you are speaking to thousands and millions of alert, aspirational idea, ideological people, philosophers like Dugan can have an outsized impact.

01:18:54.540 So it's really important that we get them right and understand exactly what we're up against.

01:18:59.260 It's amazing.

01:18:59.820 I feel a little like the Germans have never understood.

01:19:03.140 How could you possibly read Mein Kampf and not know?

01:19:06.780 I mean, you knew he said it, but I think it's the human it's human nature to say, oh, well, he didn't mean that part or the he'll never get that done.

01:19:16.540 And we've done that with even covid.

01:19:19.720 I was on the air for six weeks before it hit America saying, look at what's happening in China.

01:19:25.960 That would never happen here.

01:19:27.840 And pretty much it did.

01:19:30.260 Yeah.

01:19:31.120 So we can't underestimate liberalism and modernity in the West.

01:19:35.380 One of our great weaknesses is, in fact, that we are sometimes naive, sometimes benevolent and willing to give people the benefit of the doubt when they make it clear they don't deserve it.

01:19:47.260 So tomorrow we'll have you back.

01:19:49.320 Same time, Stephen.

01:19:50.540 And I want to concentrate on his what his definition of modernity is, because if it's if it is what I think it is, that is pre-enlightenment kind of modernity, kind of going back into some of the dark ages stuff and his religious beliefs, his connections to kind of a Christian nationalism.

01:20:15.520 If you will, in a very, very dark way.

01:20:19.280 OK, perfect.

01:20:20.240 So we'll see you tomorrow then.

01:20:22.360 Same time.

01:20:22.920 Thank you very much.

01:20:23.980 Stephen Hicks.

01:20:25.900 Always great to have him on.

01:20:28.000 He has a deep understanding of of who Alexander Dugan is.

01:20:32.940 If you watch that episode from Tucker, which I highly recommend, if you watch that, know that you're getting the soft side of Alexander Dugan.

01:20:44.500 That is his opening pitch.

01:20:46.580 And there are people in America that follow him, like him, believe many of the same thing.

01:20:55.500 Quite honestly, Steve Bannon, I think, is one of them.

01:20:58.000 And that's what makes Steve Bannon so dangerous.

01:21:02.880 He is using some of his philosophies and buying into some of those philosophies.

01:21:08.640 And as Christians, as true Americans, we cannot allow this to take hold of any of our churches or any of our people.

01:21:20.880 Tomorrow will be very important for you to listen to.

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01:27:31.320 This hour, we're going to talk a little bit about NPR's CEO.

01:27:35.620 Christopher Ruffo came out and said, there might be something a little more nefarious happening here.

01:27:41.880 If he's right, it's quite disturbing, especially since she is the head, the CEO of NPR.

01:27:51.480 We'll find out all the details coming up beginning in 60 seconds.

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01:29:07.680 So I want to go over this NPR boss, which was kind of funny at the beginning.

01:29:14.620 And then the more you learn about her, the more you're like,

01:29:16.840 Well, no, hang on just a second.

01:29:19.380 Because she would be a very important tool in the hands of the government,

01:29:24.660 and she's being paid by national public radio.

01:29:29.200 So she is a tool of the government in many ways.

01:29:32.960 Can she separate herself from her own personal beliefs?

01:29:38.240 Or is that even wanted at NPR?

01:29:43.820 We wanted to bring in Joe McKinnon.

01:29:46.720 Joe is a Blaze News staff writer, and he has been following up on this.

01:29:51.440 Joe, take us from the beginning, from the whistleblower, if you will,

01:30:00.400 all the way to Christopher Ruffo, and then let's pick it up from there.

01:30:04.520 So can you tell us the beginning of it, Joe?

01:30:07.040 Absolutely.

01:30:07.820 Thanks for having me on.

01:30:09.080 So Yuri Berliner, earlier this month,

01:30:11.900 has this damning expose in the free press, April 9th.

01:30:16.900 He goes after NPR after having worked there for a quarter of a century

01:30:21.500 as a senior business editor.

01:30:23.480 He suggests that there's zero viewpoint diversity,

01:30:27.400 particularly after John Lansing, the former CEO,

01:30:30.760 had made it an activist organization

01:30:34.080 and then allied it effectively with the Democratic Party.

01:30:37.920 This is a publication, according to Berliner,

01:30:40.620 that didn't want to cover the Hunter Biden laptop story,

01:30:44.140 that worked with Adam Schiff to push the Russian collusion hoax.

01:30:48.900 So he goes to town on NPR

01:30:51.920 and draws the ire of someone who's not been on a lot of people's radar,

01:30:56.500 and that's Catherine Mayer, or Mayer, I should say.

01:31:00.800 So Mayer comes up with this long response

01:31:04.360 and effectively cusses him out with some more charitable terms,

01:31:11.200 and subsequently Berliner is suspended, and then he resigns.

01:31:16.760 So people start looking into Mayer after this,

01:31:19.900 because she was with Wikipedia before,

01:31:22.400 but I guess flew under the radar for a lot,

01:31:26.020 particularly on the right

01:31:27.380 or among those who are critical of the government.

01:31:31.960 And at first blush, she looks just like another shrill leftist.

01:31:36.760 She has the obligatory photo wearing the Biden campaign hat,

01:31:41.200 and she has an unhealthy obsession with race.

01:31:43.880 And so that photo exists, and the tweets speak for themselves.

01:31:47.580 But you keep digging, as Rufo has,

01:31:51.440 and you realize really quickly that there is something more going on here.

01:31:56.160 From 30,000 feet, she looks like not just a tech-savvy media queen,

01:32:02.080 but someone who spent a lot of time around color revolutions in the Orient,

01:32:07.160 enough to know how they might be replicated.

01:32:09.920 Okay, so hang on just a second.

01:32:11.900 Campuses and boardrooms are full of leftists,

01:32:14.600 but you're saying, and Christopher Rufo is saying,

01:32:18.700 she is not your ordinary leftist.

01:32:21.140 She's been around color revolutions.

01:32:24.100 What does that mean, she's been around color revolutions?

01:32:27.520 Okay, so, well, one of the many interesting posts she's had,

01:32:33.000 and I should note at the outset here

01:32:35.900 that she's a World Economic Forum World Global Leader.

01:32:38.900 She's worked with the World Bank.

01:32:41.880 She's worked with various NGOs that are in the tech, comms,

01:32:48.020 and, well, foreign policy space.

01:32:51.820 So, around 2010, 2011,

01:32:54.660 and Rufo chronicled her travel itinerary,

01:32:58.920 she's with the National Democratic Institute.

01:33:02.380 And that's a spinoff of the National Endowment for Democracy,

01:33:05.340 committed to, yeah, exactly.

01:33:08.500 Well, you know where I'm going with this.

01:33:10.500 Yeah.

01:33:11.440 This is an organization that tries to transition

01:33:13.960 unwilling regimes to become liberal democracies.

01:33:19.140 Now, let me, can I, can I redefine that a little bit?

01:33:22.900 It's a CIA front.

01:33:25.400 Well, Mike Benz,

01:33:26.920 he was in the Trump administration at the State Department.

01:33:30.300 He said exactly that.

01:33:31.840 He said to carve out for the CIA.

01:33:33.520 And other people have said just as much.

01:33:37.780 In fact, I think it was Ron Dixon

01:33:40.780 at the New York Times back when,

01:33:43.060 he said the NDI was actively fomenting protests

01:33:46.780 during the so-called Arab Spring.

01:33:49.500 So, and by the way, these aren't just...

01:33:52.100 We know this.

01:33:53.600 I exposed that when we were at Fox.

01:33:56.560 We've known that from the beginning.

01:33:58.380 It didn't take a brain surgeon to figure this out.

01:34:01.080 Then, when you go into Ukraine and see what they were doing

01:34:05.540 and the phrases that they were using,

01:34:08.320 saying, you know, we can spread this now.

01:34:11.620 We kind of perfected it in the Middle East

01:34:14.280 and we can spread it.

01:34:15.640 And that's exactly what we were doing in Ukraine.

01:34:19.080 Well, precisely, Ukraine, Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Tunisia.

01:34:25.380 And so, she's kind of got a pilgrimage

01:34:28.020 to these toppled regimes,

01:34:30.500 in some cases, as they're falling.

01:34:33.140 So, Rufo notes that she goes to Tunisia a couple times.

01:34:37.420 She goes to Gaziantep in southern Turkey,

01:34:40.060 just as rebels are making inroads

01:34:43.000 along the highway between Damascus

01:34:45.140 and, I believe, it was Aleppo.

01:34:46.460 And she actually said not long ago that she...

01:34:50.640 Well, she framed the timing differently,

01:34:53.580 but she said in the aftermath of the revolutions,

01:34:56.480 she was doing research on the ground

01:34:57.880 with, quote-unquote, human rights activists

01:35:00.700 and independent journalists.

01:35:03.060 And so, she's with the NDI.

01:35:05.220 She's going to Tunisia.

01:35:06.960 And she raised a couple alarm bells.

01:35:10.280 So, there's this Tunisian cabinet official.

01:35:13.000 And, well, he basically...

01:35:17.640 Well, he didn't intimate.

01:35:18.980 He straight out said,

01:35:20.060 it's a likely case that she works

01:35:22.700 for a certain three-letter agency.

01:35:25.840 And, you know, a lot of people

01:35:28.200 have been speculating about that in recent weeks.

01:35:30.180 So, what is her background in broadcast and news?

01:35:38.520 Well, she deals a lot with comms.

01:35:42.660 In terms of news,

01:35:43.980 she's been critical of the ways

01:35:45.920 that governments have weaponized

01:35:48.840 their state broadcasters,

01:35:51.060 which I think is rich, granted.

01:35:53.420 Right.

01:35:53.980 Yeah, she goes to work for her.

01:35:56.380 Yes.

01:35:56.920 But what is she...

01:35:57.840 I mean, does she have a background in news?

01:36:01.020 Is she a journalist?

01:36:02.400 Is she...

01:36:03.760 I mean, why is she...

01:36:05.240 I see that she's traveled the world,

01:36:07.660 that she's with the World Bank and the WEF,

01:36:10.680 and she's been with NGOs,

01:36:12.820 and she's been around revolutions,

01:36:14.660 but that doesn't necessarily scream CEO of NPR.

01:36:19.940 Well, I think Wikimedia and Wikipedia,

01:36:24.320 which she ran the show for for several years,

01:36:27.420 she demonstrated her bona fides.

01:36:31.120 And it was under her reign

01:36:33.260 that it quickly became clear

01:36:35.800 that this was...

01:36:37.860 Well, it's supposed to be a repository

01:36:39.100 for human knowledge, right?

01:36:40.640 Right, but it's not.

01:36:41.680 Recently, you talked about how

01:36:43.180 memory is the key to who we are.

01:36:45.740 Well, Wikipedia is instrumental

01:36:48.020 to capturing and curating

01:36:51.340 that memory for a lot of people.

01:36:53.000 So she might not be a journalist,

01:36:55.100 but she was very much...

01:36:57.200 Well, I don't want to suggest

01:36:58.760 there's a causation,

01:37:00.240 because she pretends that, you know,

01:37:02.560 the Wikipedia editors

01:37:04.060 are working on their own.

01:37:05.320 But while she's in control,

01:37:07.040 there's very much

01:37:08.080 a narrative curation going on,

01:37:09.660 the kind that you might want

01:37:12.140 at a taxpayer-funded state broadcast.

01:37:15.420 Oh, my gosh.

01:37:16.980 Jeez.

01:37:18.680 Okay.

01:37:20.240 So the rumor that she's with CIA,

01:37:23.300 where did that originate?

01:37:25.320 So I mentioned she went to Tunisia

01:37:27.240 a couple times, right?

01:37:28.420 Okay.

01:37:28.880 So this cabinet official

01:37:30.740 is named Slim Mamou.

01:37:32.420 I think I'm pronouncing that right.

01:37:34.300 But Slim says in 2016

01:37:36.900 that it's a bit of a retrospective.

01:37:38.720 He's looking back.

01:37:40.100 And I believe it was around the time

01:37:41.720 that she was getting a promotion

01:37:43.080 over at Wikipedia.

01:37:45.040 He straight up says

01:37:46.460 that she's probably CIA.

01:37:49.380 He's not mince and words.

01:37:50.740 He says she's come over

01:37:53.200 under different affiliations

01:37:54.760 with the NDI,

01:37:55.920 with World Bank,

01:37:56.540 with USAID.

01:37:58.300 And he suggests,

01:37:59.860 and this is going on

01:38:01.040 at Twitter at the time,

01:38:02.500 still called that,

01:38:03.840 he suggests that

01:38:05.180 she might as well have had

01:38:06.620 CIA written on her front.

01:38:09.740 And so Slim was

01:38:11.360 in the transitional government,

01:38:12.880 he dropped out

01:38:14.020 to protest

01:38:14.760 so-called censorship.

01:38:17.120 And he,

01:38:18.260 you know,

01:38:18.520 not entirely

01:38:19.340 the top of the food chain,

01:38:21.460 but someone you might,

01:38:22.400 at least want to,

01:38:23.400 hear out.

01:38:24.720 And so she is

01:38:25.920 prickled by the suggestion.

01:38:28.320 She responds

01:38:29.220 saying,

01:38:30.300 I'm no sort of agent.

01:38:32.820 You can dislike me,

01:38:33.760 but please don't defame me.

01:38:35.820 But then,

01:38:36.400 you know,

01:38:36.860 that brought

01:38:37.580 even more scrutiny

01:38:38.700 because people

01:38:39.460 took notice

01:38:40.820 of the way

01:38:41.400 she framed that response.

01:38:43.160 So Christina Pasha,

01:38:44.520 she's on the

01:38:45.320 defense team.

01:38:46.440 She noted,

01:38:46.920 for instance,

01:38:47.460 okay,

01:38:47.760 well,

01:38:48.080 you may not have been

01:38:48.960 an agent,

01:38:50.020 but you could just

01:38:50.820 as well have been

01:38:51.740 an asset.

01:38:53.220 Yeah.

01:38:54.100 But the CIA element,

01:38:55.960 I think,

01:38:56.600 you know,

01:38:57.260 I haven't seen

01:38:57.940 any incontrovertible

01:38:59.620 proof.

01:39:01.200 Sure.

01:39:01.540 It's also

01:39:02.520 largely immaterial

01:39:04.260 because she's actually

01:39:04.960 directly worked

01:39:05.780 with the Biden

01:39:06.660 administration.

01:39:08.240 She's worked with

01:39:09.260 and brushed shoulders

01:39:10.460 with all these

01:39:11.440 regime change groups.

01:39:14.000 So whether or not

01:39:15.300 she has

01:39:15.960 a CAA

01:39:16.620 and a card

01:39:17.320 somewhere

01:39:17.740 tucked in her

01:39:18.460 to her desk,

01:39:20.040 she might as well

01:39:21.060 have been.

01:39:22.000 And this is

01:39:22.840 part of the group

01:39:24.320 that,

01:39:24.800 I mean,

01:39:25.180 Hillary Clinton

01:39:25.800 in that infamous

01:39:27.280 clip where she said,

01:39:28.740 we came,

01:39:29.240 we saw,

01:39:29.600 he died

01:39:30.260 and laughed about it.

01:39:32.340 I think who she

01:39:33.160 was talking to

01:39:33.960 at the time

01:39:34.440 might have been

01:39:35.140 Samantha Power

01:39:35.980 who is,

01:39:38.400 you know,

01:39:38.820 Cass Sunstein's wife,

01:39:40.400 the author of Nudge

01:39:42.020 and somebody who is,

01:39:43.500 who knows how to

01:39:44.260 nudge people

01:39:45.000 into new positions.

01:39:46.680 But Sam now works

01:39:48.860 at USAID.

01:39:50.220 She's the head

01:39:50.900 of USAID.

01:39:51.880 So if you,

01:39:53.220 if you have

01:39:54.160 the head of NPR

01:39:55.500 also working

01:39:56.940 with Samantha Power

01:39:57.840 at USAID,

01:39:58.960 that is also

01:40:00.040 a CIA

01:40:00.780 front.

01:40:04.600 Oh,

01:40:04.820 absolutely.

01:40:05.560 And I think

01:40:06.080 it was,

01:40:06.520 it was Michael Waller

01:40:07.740 in the Rufo piece.

01:40:08.960 He's a national

01:40:10.040 security analyst

01:40:10.980 and he said,

01:40:12.300 he drew that

01:40:13.660 same connection

01:40:14.180 with power

01:40:14.740 and intimated

01:40:17.380 that

01:40:17.860 Meyer

01:40:19.040 is part of

01:40:19.940 this revolutionary

01:40:20.720 Vanguard movement.

01:40:22.540 So,

01:40:23.180 you know,

01:40:23.820 they're all

01:40:24.440 in bed together

01:40:25.280 by the,

01:40:26.160 by the looks

01:40:26.840 of it,

01:40:27.120 I should say

01:40:27.840 a little bit

01:40:28.500 of dissonance

01:40:28.940 because I don't

01:40:29.280 want to mean tweet.

01:40:30.620 But,

01:40:30.780 and then

01:40:31.720 you couple

01:40:33.160 this with

01:40:34.080 her public

01:40:34.600 comments

01:40:35.140 and then

01:40:36.280 it lends

01:40:37.080 even more

01:40:37.760 gravity

01:40:38.340 to this,

01:40:39.400 well,

01:40:41.020 her becoming

01:40:41.700 the head

01:40:42.020 of NPR,

01:40:42.660 which was,

01:40:43.100 give me,

01:40:43.460 give me some

01:40:44.220 of her,

01:40:44.680 give me some

01:40:45.080 of her public

01:40:45.700 comments

01:40:46.200 that I may

01:40:46.640 not know.

01:40:47.880 Okay,

01:40:48.360 well,

01:40:49.900 I did a

01:40:50.560 little bit

01:40:50.820 of a

01:40:51.240 deep dive.

01:40:52.160 A lot

01:40:52.460 of these

01:40:52.720 already

01:40:53.020 are circulating,

01:40:54.740 but they're

01:40:56.060 all troubling.

01:40:56.740 So,

01:40:57.560 for instance,

01:40:58.300 in a 2021

01:40:58.960 interview,

01:40:59.840 and this one

01:41:00.380 has caught

01:41:00.800 a lot of

01:41:01.100 people's

01:41:01.360 attention

01:41:01.660 in recent

01:41:02.160 days,

01:41:02.980 she described

01:41:03.680 the First

01:41:04.040 Amendment

01:41:04.360 as the

01:41:05.120 top challenge

01:41:06.060 in the

01:41:06.540 fight against

01:41:07.020 disinformation.

01:41:08.700 So,

01:41:09.160 it's a challenge,

01:41:09.960 yeah,

01:41:10.340 yeah,

01:41:10.660 yeah,

01:41:10.900 that's right.

01:41:11.500 It's a challenge

01:41:12.180 because,

01:41:12.920 quote,

01:41:13.180 it's a

01:41:15.040 little bit

01:41:15.440 tricky to

01:41:16.060 really address

01:41:17.160 some of

01:41:17.540 the real

01:41:17.840 challenges

01:41:18.540 of where

01:41:19.180 does bad

01:41:19.940 information

01:41:20.360 come from

01:41:21.040 and sort

01:41:21.720 of the

01:41:22.040 influence

01:41:22.460 peddlers

01:41:23.440 who have

01:41:23.840 made a

01:41:24.160 real market

01:41:24.800 economy

01:41:25.180 around it.

01:41:26.300 And by

01:41:26.560 the way,

01:41:27.000 when she's

01:41:27.340 talking about

01:41:27.760 disinformation,

01:41:29.060 she means

01:41:29.380 skepticism

01:41:30.040 of COVID-19

01:41:31.800 vaccines,

01:41:33.160 which I know

01:41:33.540 in the lead

01:41:35.240 up to the

01:41:35.580 show,

01:41:35.920 there was

01:41:36.120 mentioned

01:41:36.420 that AstraZeneca

01:41:37.280 just admitted

01:41:38.340 that has

01:41:39.260 devastating

01:41:40.080 impact.

01:41:41.520 Well,

01:41:41.760 so that's

01:41:42.260 disinformation

01:41:42.660 according to

01:41:43.580 the former

01:41:44.400 head of

01:41:44.800 Wikipedia.

01:41:46.600 She also

01:41:47.060 climate alarmism,

01:41:48.320 that's a

01:41:48.740 no-fly

01:41:49.240 for her.

01:41:51.200 So,

01:41:51.700 at an

01:41:52.200 Atlantic Council

01:41:53.060 2021 event,

01:41:54.600 she says,

01:41:55.940 Wikipedia

01:41:56.400 isn't a

01:41:57.600 free expression

01:41:58.220 platform.

01:41:59.580 And so,

01:42:00.160 a lot of

01:42:00.940 people are

01:42:01.200 wondering why.

01:42:02.540 And she

01:42:02.940 suggests,

01:42:04.100 it's really

01:42:05.340 about creating

01:42:05.780 content that

01:42:06.340 people can

01:42:06.700 have confidence

01:42:07.460 in,

01:42:08.300 that they can

01:42:08.800 use to make

01:42:09.300 determinations

01:42:09.960 in their

01:42:10.360 lives.

01:42:11.320 And so,

01:42:11.700 that right,

01:42:12.200 to have

01:42:12.620 access to

01:42:13.140 high-integrity

01:42:13.820 content,

01:42:14.860 often sort

01:42:15.560 of trumps

01:42:16.140 the right

01:42:16.520 to free

01:42:16.900 speech.

01:42:18.260 Now,

01:42:18.960 pair that

01:42:19.720 with the

01:42:20.520 fact that

01:42:21.160 she suggests

01:42:22.920 straight out

01:42:24.020 in a TED

01:42:24.640 talk that,

01:42:26.160 quote,

01:42:27.080 our reverence

01:42:27.780 for the

01:42:28.120 truth might

01:42:29.180 be a

01:42:29.440 distraction,

01:42:30.860 and it's

01:42:31.140 getting in

01:42:31.520 the way of

01:42:31.900 finding common

01:42:32.660 ground in

01:42:33.400 getting things

01:42:34.020 done.

01:42:35.200 So,

01:42:35.640 I don't know

01:42:35.900 who that

01:42:36.140 common ground

01:42:36.800 belongs to,

01:42:37.580 by the way,

01:42:38.020 but it

01:42:38.760 certainly isn't

01:42:39.740 free people.

01:42:41.020 Yeah,

01:42:41.780 that's

01:42:42.340 fantastic.

01:42:43.320 Okay,

01:42:43.920 I'm going

01:42:45.220 to come

01:42:45.420 back.

01:42:45.820 Let me

01:42:46.100 take one

01:42:46.500 minute to

01:42:46.980 break for

01:42:48.160 a sponsor,

01:42:48.880 and then I

01:42:49.480 want to come

01:42:49.820 back,

01:42:50.080 and I want

01:42:50.860 to ask you,

01:42:51.420 so if she

01:42:52.780 was a tool,

01:42:54.300 even a little

01:42:55.220 bit in

01:42:55.840 color revolution,

01:42:57.220 what is the

01:42:58.240 fear that she

01:42:59.100 could do,

01:42:59.840 or what is the

01:43:00.800 impact she

01:43:01.420 could have here

01:43:02.060 in America

01:43:02.620 by being

01:43:03.960 the CEO

01:43:04.580 of NPR?

01:43:06.280 Back in

01:43:06.760 just a second,

01:43:07.620 stand by.

01:43:09.260 Let's say

01:43:09.860 that you

01:43:10.820 had an

01:43:11.120 employee,

01:43:11.560 and here's

01:43:11.860 what he

01:43:12.080 did.

01:43:12.280 He spent

01:43:12.720 too much

01:43:13.440 of the

01:43:13.720 company's

01:43:14.160 money,

01:43:14.540 a bunch

01:43:15.200 of which

01:43:15.480 he actually

01:43:16.060 stole.

01:43:16.600 In fact,

01:43:16.880 he ran

01:43:17.260 the company

01:43:17.680 into huge,

01:43:18.660 huge debt

01:43:20.520 where there

01:43:20.800 was no

01:43:21.120 turning back

01:43:21.720 from it,

01:43:22.380 ensuring that

01:43:22.940 the stock

01:43:23.320 was worth

01:43:23.780 less and

01:43:24.280 less every

01:43:24.720 day until

01:43:25.380 the whole

01:43:25.940 thing went

01:43:26.340 belly up.

01:43:27.800 On top of

01:43:28.440 that,

01:43:28.800 he was a

01:43:29.300 jerk about

01:43:29.720 it to all

01:43:30.140 the other

01:43:30.500 employees beneath

01:43:31.300 him.

01:43:31.520 What would

01:43:32.380 you do

01:43:32.620 with that

01:43:32.880 employee?

01:43:33.760 You'd fire

01:43:34.180 them,

01:43:34.420 right?

01:43:35.180 Well,

01:43:35.520 we don't do

01:43:36.400 that.

01:43:36.860 We call it

01:43:37.500 Congress,

01:43:38.080 we call it

01:43:38.480 the administration,

01:43:39.360 we call it

01:43:39.800 the Fed or

01:43:40.520 the Treasury,

01:43:41.740 and we are

01:43:42.160 all supposed

01:43:42.500 to listen

01:43:42.900 to them.

01:43:43.480 And they

01:43:43.940 keep doing

01:43:44.920 these things.

01:43:45.980 We know

01:43:46.660 they're doing

01:43:47.260 these things,

01:43:48.140 and yet we

01:43:49.120 keep coming

01:43:49.720 back to them

01:43:50.360 and saying,

01:43:51.820 okay,

01:43:52.140 how are you

01:43:52.420 going to

01:43:52.620 fix it?

01:43:53.680 How are

01:43:53.980 they going

01:43:54.140 to fix

01:43:54.600 it?

01:43:55.100 The fix

01:43:55.540 is already

01:43:55.940 in.

01:43:56.280 Stop

01:43:56.520 listening to

01:43:57.260 those people.

01:43:58.760 I want

01:43:59.020 you to

01:43:59.400 seriously

01:44:00.200 consider gold

01:44:01.320 or silver.

01:44:02.020 There was

01:44:02.200 a story

01:44:02.640 in today's

01:44:03.220 show prep

01:44:03.720 at glennbeck.com

01:44:04.680 about how

01:44:05.700 China and

01:44:06.480 the Chinese

01:44:06.940 are just

01:44:07.780 buying gold

01:44:08.600 like crazy.

01:44:09.400 They're going

01:44:09.720 on these

01:44:10.180 vacations

01:44:10.840 over to

01:44:11.400 India,

01:44:11.740 and they

01:44:12.920 are just

01:44:13.340 coming back

01:44:14.040 with buckets

01:44:15.140 of gold

01:44:15.900 that they

01:44:16.260 bought.

01:44:16.780 They know

01:44:17.820 in China

01:44:18.560 that that

01:44:19.140 is the

01:44:20.100 only hedge

01:44:21.100 against

01:44:21.500 insanity.

01:44:22.140 Well,

01:44:23.640 I think

01:44:24.040 we're in

01:44:24.400 the land

01:44:24.800 of

01:44:24.940 insanity.

01:44:26.100 We are

01:44:26.440 now

01:44:27.440 borrowing

01:44:28.320 $1

01:44:29.380 trillion

01:44:30.180 every

01:44:31.120 100

01:44:32.120 days.

01:44:33.740 Please,

01:44:34.520 please.

01:44:35.080 They have

01:44:35.520 five-star

01:44:36.180 reviews out

01:44:36.900 the wazoo.

01:44:37.940 They have

01:44:38.480 a worry-free

01:44:40.900 purchase

01:44:41.400 guarantee,

01:44:42.100 24-hour

01:44:42.840 free purchase

01:44:43.580 guarantee.

01:44:44.620 They are

01:44:45.300 the precious

01:44:46.440 metals leader

01:44:47.300 that you can

01:44:47.920 trust.

01:44:48.400 It's

01:44:48.600 Lear

01:44:48.920 Capital.

01:44:50.020 Please,

01:44:50.640 call them

01:44:51.180 now.

01:44:51.540 Just get

01:44:51.900 your free

01:44:52.360 wealth

01:44:52.660 protection

01:44:53.180 guide.

01:44:53.660 This is

01:44:54.000 coming,

01:44:54.680 and it

01:44:55.020 is coming

01:44:55.420 fast and

01:44:56.240 hard.

01:44:57.200 They will

01:44:57.460 also credit

01:44:58.020 your account

01:44:58.460 $250

01:44:59.120 towards your

01:44:59.880 purchase.

01:45:00.260 So call

01:45:00.620 today at

01:45:01.480 800-957-GOLD.

01:45:02.960 That's

01:45:03.200 800-957-GOLD.

01:45:06.640 Back in just

01:45:07.200 a minute,

01:45:07.680 10 seconds.

01:45:08.280 So we're

01:45:19.620 talking to

01:45:20.100 Joe McKinnon,

01:45:21.000 who has

01:45:21.320 written

01:45:21.860 extensively

01:45:22.560 for the

01:45:23.560 Blaze News.

01:45:25.060 You can

01:45:25.420 go to

01:45:25.640 blaze.com

01:45:26.220 and find

01:45:26.560 his work

01:45:27.340 on NPR's

01:45:28.780 CEO,

01:45:29.620 who is

01:45:29.960 looking to

01:45:30.640 be far

01:45:31.000 worse than

01:45:31.480 what anybody

01:45:32.100 thought she

01:45:32.640 was.

01:45:32.960 We just

01:45:33.300 thought she

01:45:33.720 was a

01:45:34.060 crazy

01:45:34.360 liberal

01:45:34.740 or

01:45:35.620 progressive,

01:45:36.140 but she

01:45:37.940 seems to

01:45:38.760 be possibly

01:45:39.540 much more

01:45:40.160 than that,

01:45:40.580 including

01:45:40.980 possibly

01:45:42.000 working with

01:45:43.220 the CIA.

01:45:44.200 But she

01:45:44.780 spent a lot

01:45:45.700 of time

01:45:46.000 around color

01:45:46.600 revolutions.

01:45:47.720 We'll talk

01:45:48.380 about that

01:45:48.900 coming up

01:45:49.520 in the next

01:45:49.940 break,

01:45:50.220 but I just

01:45:50.860 wanted to

01:45:51.180 ask you,

01:45:51.580 Joe,

01:45:51.700 before you

01:45:52.060 go,

01:45:52.620 what is

01:45:53.380 the impact,

01:45:54.520 if this

01:45:54.980 is true,

01:45:55.720 that she

01:45:56.180 could have

01:45:56.860 with NPR

01:45:57.860 at her

01:45:58.260 disposal?

01:46:01.080 NPR

01:46:01.560 has long

01:46:02.320 been a

01:46:02.640 joke.

01:46:03.800 It's

01:46:04.240 ineffective.

01:46:05.440 It's

01:46:05.620 viewership

01:46:07.140 has

01:46:07.380 dwindled

01:46:07.880 immensely.

01:46:10.040 She is

01:46:10.900 shrewd.

01:46:11.580 She is

01:46:11.820 effective.

01:46:13.180 This is

01:46:13.720 an individual

01:46:14.300 who had

01:46:15.020 people believing

01:46:15.640 that cultural

01:46:16.240 Marxism is

01:46:17.120 a far-right

01:46:17.740 conspiracy

01:46:18.280 theory when

01:46:19.240 she was

01:46:19.540 running

01:46:19.780 Wikipedia.

01:46:21.100 And all

01:46:22.640 the insights

01:46:23.280 she has

01:46:23.900 gleaned when

01:46:24.940 she was

01:46:25.220 doing her

01:46:25.820 pilgrimage

01:46:26.700 of fallen

01:46:27.700 states,

01:46:28.720 and her

01:46:29.100 understanding

01:46:29.680 that capture

01:46:30.980 of a state

01:46:32.080 broadcaster

01:46:32.860 could ultimately

01:46:34.580 mean capture

01:46:35.380 of the state

01:46:36.040 means that

01:46:37.540 NPR is

01:46:38.540 a weapon

01:46:39.020 in her

01:46:39.380 hands,

01:46:40.360 potentially a

01:46:40.960 weapon in

01:46:41.260 her hands.

01:46:41.900 There's over

01:46:42.480 a thousand

01:46:42.960 stations broadcasting

01:46:44.240 its NPR

01:46:44.860 programming,

01:46:45.980 there's thousands

01:46:46.780 of employees,

01:46:48.040 a bunch of

01:46:48.640 bureaus across

01:46:49.480 the country.

01:46:50.740 Now,

01:46:51.180 I don't think

01:46:52.280 they're going to

01:46:52.620 do business

01:46:53.100 as usual.

01:46:53.900 In fact,

01:46:54.280 she's telegraphed

01:46:55.120 that there's

01:46:55.460 going to be a

01:46:55.760 transformation

01:46:56.180 behind the

01:46:56.880 scenes.

01:46:58.860 NPR was

01:46:59.620 already a

01:47:00.000 leftist

01:47:00.460 propaganda

01:47:01.080 outlet.

01:47:01.900 Now,

01:47:03.380 I think

01:47:04.080 it's going

01:47:04.500 to be

01:47:04.900 used

01:47:05.700 to

01:47:07.060 ferment

01:47:07.960 or at

01:47:08.780 the very

01:47:09.060 least

01:47:09.260 control

01:47:09.900 the

01:47:12.180 protest

01:47:12.480 and to

01:47:13.960 at least

01:47:14.800 have the

01:47:15.200 power to

01:47:16.820 weaponize

01:47:18.100 various groups

01:47:19.040 across the

01:47:19.540 nation.

01:47:20.060 You send

01:47:20.820 your marching

01:47:21.200 orders

01:47:21.540 essentially

01:47:22.060 out via

01:47:23.100 NPR.

01:47:24.560 So,

01:47:25.280 Wikipedia,

01:47:26.020 and I'm

01:47:26.480 surprised you

01:47:26.940 left Wikipedia

01:47:27.480 honestly,

01:47:28.160 because I

01:47:28.780 think that's

01:47:29.180 a more

01:47:29.420 consequential

01:47:30.120 place,

01:47:31.140 but Wikipedia

01:47:31.760 controls the

01:47:33.040 past,

01:47:34.600 and therefore

01:47:35.580 you can

01:47:36.580 control the

01:47:36.960 future.

01:47:37.840 I think

01:47:38.540 NPR,

01:47:39.800 under her

01:47:40.300 helm,

01:47:41.740 I think

01:47:42.000 the aim

01:47:42.420 anyway,

01:47:43.500 is controlling

01:47:44.420 the present.

01:47:46.600 Joseph

01:47:47.160 McKinnon

01:47:47.940 from

01:47:48.500 TheBlaze.com,

01:47:49.780 thank you so

01:47:50.420 much.

01:47:50.780 We're going

01:47:51.020 to go a

01:47:51.800 little deeper

01:47:52.380 in this

01:47:53.660 direction and

01:47:54.200 really talk

01:47:55.080 about color

01:47:55.640 revolution

01:47:56.220 in just a

01:47:58.300 minute.

01:47:58.500 When we come

01:47:58.900 back,

01:47:59.300 stand by.

01:48:00.560 Stand up.

01:48:02.580 Glenn Beck.

01:48:05.100 You know,

01:48:05.800 we don't build

01:48:06.400 a parallel

01:48:06.840 economy because

01:48:07.960 we're glad

01:48:09.120 that it's

01:48:09.520 necessary.

01:48:10.320 I wish it

01:48:10.700 wasn't.

01:48:11.260 I miss the

01:48:11.740 old days

01:48:12.160 when doing

01:48:12.580 business

01:48:13.040 wasn't some

01:48:13.660 sort of

01:48:14.060 political

01:48:14.540 statement.

01:48:16.320 But,

01:48:16.980 sadly,

01:48:17.660 that's how

01:48:18.140 the world

01:48:18.440 works right

01:48:19.140 now.

01:48:19.540 And too

01:48:19.960 many companies

01:48:20.660 have swung

01:48:21.220 for the

01:48:21.540 fences with

01:48:22.100 their leftist

01:48:23.660 Marxist

01:48:24.380 wokeism.

01:48:25.200 there is

01:48:27.780 there is

01:48:28.720 many

01:48:31.380 organizations

01:48:32.420 and many

01:48:33.120 companies

01:48:33.660 that love

01:48:34.460 America.

01:48:34.940 They love

01:48:35.960 Republicans

01:48:36.800 and they love

01:48:37.360 Democrats.

01:48:37.880 They like

01:48:38.640 freedom.

01:48:39.260 They like

01:48:39.960 the Bill

01:48:40.320 of Rights.

01:48:40.980 There is

01:48:41.580 one,

01:48:42.060 however,

01:48:42.260 that stands

01:48:43.060 way out

01:48:44.240 in front of

01:48:44.820 the rest,

01:48:45.280 and that is

01:48:45.920 Patriot Mobile.

01:48:47.460 They're America's

01:48:48.040 only Christian

01:48:48.680 conservative

01:48:49.220 mobile phone

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01:48:50.360 and their

01:48:50.880 mission is

01:48:52.260 to serve

01:48:53.240 and defend

01:48:53.860 our God-given

01:48:54.560 constitutional rights

01:48:55.780 and freedom,

01:48:56.620 and they also

01:48:57.860 deliver great

01:48:59.420 cell phone

01:48:59.980 service.

01:49:00.440 You're on the

01:49:00.920 same three

01:49:01.760 networks,

01:49:02.420 they're on the

01:49:02.760 same towers,

01:49:03.720 so you're

01:49:04.260 going to get

01:49:04.520 the same

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01:49:05.520 you're going

01:49:05.760 to get a

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01:49:07.140 and people

01:49:07.880 who are in

01:49:08.440 the fight

01:49:08.900 with you.

01:49:10.160 You keep

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01:49:11.200 upgrade your

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01:49:12.820 your number,

01:49:14.620 you can do

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01:49:15.660 want.

01:49:16.080 It's

01:49:16.320 PatriotMobile.com

01:49:17.520 slash back

01:49:18.120 PatriotMobile.com

01:49:19.200 slash back

01:49:19.760 972-PATRIOT.

01:49:22.240 Back in a

01:49:22.780 minute with

01:49:23.440 more.

01:49:36.920 Jason

01:49:37.520 Buttrill is

01:49:38.400 the former

01:49:40.460 Department of

01:49:41.160 Defense

01:49:41.460 Intelligence

01:49:42.060 Analyst.

01:49:42.900 He is also

01:49:43.580 my head

01:49:44.180 writer for

01:49:44.660 television,

01:49:45.400 head researcher

01:49:46.260 for all of

01:49:48.520 my programs,

01:49:49.240 and he

01:49:49.540 joins me

01:49:50.020 now because

01:49:50.520 we are

01:49:51.300 talking about

01:49:52.100 the CEO

01:49:53.980 of NPR

01:49:55.660 possibly in

01:49:58.200 position to

01:49:59.300 work in

01:50:01.480 an organized

01:50:04.020 way to

01:50:05.720 foment a

01:50:06.620 color revolution.

01:50:08.000 And if you

01:50:08.600 don't know what

01:50:09.340 a color revolution

01:50:10.120 is, Jason,

01:50:11.080 can you explain

01:50:11.680 quickly what that

01:50:12.500 is, and then

01:50:12.880 I'll go through

01:50:13.280 the pillars?

01:50:14.300 Color revolutions

01:50:14.920 usually happen

01:50:15.560 around elections

01:50:16.760 in other

01:50:18.000 countries.

01:50:19.180 Yeah, typically

01:50:19.600 always like after

01:50:20.440 an election

01:50:20.860 usually or just

01:50:21.620 before an

01:50:22.020 election when

01:50:22.460 it's fomented,

01:50:23.220 but that's when

01:50:23.680 all of a sudden

01:50:24.720 you'll see like

01:50:25.260 what are

01:50:25.600 supposedly

01:50:26.140 grassroots

01:50:26.800 movements,

01:50:27.480 I use that

01:50:28.440 in air quotes

01:50:29.820 there, that

01:50:30.880 spontaneously show

01:50:32.440 up and

01:50:33.240 they'll use the

01:50:34.560 turmoil that's

01:50:35.200 happening around

01:50:35.760 them to force

01:50:36.860 regime change.

01:50:37.780 Okay, so

01:50:40.180 we've gone over

01:50:41.560 this many, many

01:50:43.100 times because

01:50:43.940 it is apparent

01:50:45.060 that, at least

01:50:46.260 to me, that

01:50:46.880 that is really

01:50:48.720 what is being

01:50:49.960 prepared here

01:50:50.980 in America.

01:50:52.420 And they

01:50:53.140 really tried

01:50:54.120 this out with

01:50:55.080 other countries

01:50:57.000 and perfected

01:50:58.300 it, and I

01:50:58.720 think they're

01:50:59.060 using it now

01:50:59.800 on us.

01:51:00.320 The former

01:51:00.780 ambassador to

01:51:01.600 Russia under

01:51:02.900 Barack Obama

01:51:03.720 was Michael

01:51:04.520 McFaul, and

01:51:06.100 he came up

01:51:06.860 with the

01:51:07.280 seven pillars

01:51:08.600 of color

01:51:09.460 revolution, the

01:51:10.380 seven steps

01:51:11.200 needed to

01:51:12.520 incite the

01:51:13.220 type of

01:51:13.580 revolution used

01:51:15.000 to up and

01:51:15.840 the European

01:51:16.400 countries and

01:51:17.420 the countries

01:51:18.040 in the Middle

01:51:18.800 East, and

01:51:19.240 this is our

01:51:19.960 deal.

01:51:22.000 And a lot

01:51:22.920 of the same

01:51:23.500 people that

01:51:24.280 were involved

01:51:24.860 in coming up

01:51:25.640 with this and

01:51:26.440 executing it in

01:51:27.360 the Middle

01:51:27.680 East are now

01:51:29.100 in positions of

01:51:30.000 power.

01:51:30.720 So you need

01:51:32.060 seven pillars

01:51:35.180 to pull this

01:51:36.100 off.

01:51:36.380 The first

01:51:36.860 thing is you

01:51:37.900 need the

01:51:38.240 presence of

01:51:38.940 a semi-autocratic

01:51:40.180 regime.

01:51:40.920 It can't be a

01:51:41.480 full dictatorship.

01:51:42.540 It's got to

01:51:42.860 be semi.

01:51:43.820 It provides

01:51:44.460 the opportunity

01:51:47.200 to use

01:51:48.020 propaganda and

01:51:49.600 to paint

01:51:50.080 whoever it is

01:51:50.920 you want to

01:51:51.300 paint as a

01:51:52.200 fascist.

01:51:53.380 Now, they

01:51:53.700 never did that

01:51:54.320 to Donald

01:51:54.720 Trump.

01:51:55.060 I don't ever

01:51:55.520 remember them

01:51:56.080 calling him a

01:51:56.840 fascist or a

01:51:57.680 Nazi or Hitler

01:51:58.600 or anything

01:51:59.140 like that.

01:52:00.120 But they

01:52:00.660 use that with

01:52:02.480 a guy who is

01:52:03.520 powerful and

01:52:04.920 say he's the

01:52:05.880 next Hitler.

01:52:07.260 Number two,

01:52:08.720 appearance of an

01:52:09.780 unpopular

01:52:10.480 president or

01:52:11.600 incumbent leader.

01:52:12.840 This is created

01:52:14.120 through manipulative

01:52:15.200 propaganda and

01:52:16.680 information and

01:52:17.820 psychological warfare.

01:52:19.040 We know we

01:52:21.660 have the

01:52:22.400 document showing

01:52:23.300 that our

01:52:23.660 government is

01:52:24.400 involved in

01:52:25.820 cognitive warfare

01:52:27.140 on the

01:52:28.320 American people.

01:52:29.480 So you've got a

01:52:31.120 president and

01:52:32.320 the media

01:52:33.320 through propaganda

01:52:34.280 just keeps

01:52:35.680 making him look

01:52:36.620 worse and worse

01:52:37.580 and worse.

01:52:38.360 Look at the

01:52:38.860 trials that are

01:52:39.640 going on.

01:52:40.600 Then you also

01:52:41.760 need the third

01:52:42.540 pillar is a

01:52:43.280 united and

01:52:44.040 organized

01:52:44.760 opposition.

01:52:46.400 Antifa, the

01:52:47.460 Palestinians,

01:52:48.300 BLM, then

01:52:51.720 you need a

01:52:52.440 compliant media

01:52:53.620 to push all

01:52:55.900 of these

01:52:56.240 narratives and

01:52:57.280 at the right

01:52:57.780 time the

01:52:58.560 voter fraud

01:52:59.440 narrative.

01:53:00.860 Have you

01:53:01.220 noticed that

01:53:01.920 the media is

01:53:03.100 again, you

01:53:04.340 couldn't question

01:53:05.020 it before, but

01:53:06.620 they pushed it

01:53:07.380 last time that

01:53:08.360 Trump was going

01:53:09.320 to steal the

01:53:10.220 election and

01:53:11.300 they're pushing

01:53:11.800 it again this

01:53:12.800 time that Trump

01:53:13.940 is trying to

01:53:14.640 steal the

01:53:15.180 election.

01:53:16.840 Five,

01:53:17.480 or sorry,

01:53:19.180 six, political

01:53:20.180 opposition

01:53:20.840 organization able

01:53:22.700 to mobilize

01:53:23.320 thousands to

01:53:24.460 millions in the

01:53:25.500 streets.

01:53:26.220 Do we have

01:53:26.920 that?

01:53:27.680 Yes.

01:53:28.760 And then

01:53:29.560 seven is

01:53:31.120 division among

01:53:32.240 the military and

01:53:33.360 the police.

01:53:33.960 They both have

01:53:35.000 to be in

01:53:36.840 some sort of

01:53:37.900 chaos.

01:53:38.800 So you can

01:53:39.800 swing some of

01:53:40.940 them your way.

01:53:42.400 well, this is

01:53:43.760 exactly what we

01:53:44.920 are looking at

01:53:47.000 in the United

01:53:47.600 States, and

01:53:48.420 that is the

01:53:49.040 way we have

01:53:49.700 toppled regimes

01:53:50.740 all over the

01:53:51.900 world.

01:53:52.380 They're all

01:53:52.740 called color

01:53:53.340 revolutions, and

01:53:54.800 I believe that

01:53:56.060 is what we are

01:53:57.120 facing now, that

01:53:59.800 there is a source

01:54:00.680 inside of our

01:54:02.080 own government

01:54:02.820 that which makes

01:54:03.480 it much, much

01:54:04.020 worse, that is

01:54:05.460 using all of

01:54:06.980 these pillars as

01:54:08.160 assets to flip

01:54:09.880 the United

01:54:10.300 States of

01:54:10.900 America.

01:54:12.660 Did I miss

01:54:13.200 anything there,

01:54:14.100 Jason?

01:54:14.760 Oh, man.

01:54:15.580 We could go on

01:54:16.520 for four hours

01:54:17.920 just going through

01:54:18.880 some of the

01:54:19.340 shows that we

01:54:19.780 were pointing

01:54:20.180 out.

01:54:20.500 I think it was

01:54:20.920 back in around

01:54:21.480 2020 when we

01:54:22.820 were first

01:54:23.180 talking about

01:54:23.840 this.

01:54:24.740 I don't even

01:54:25.560 know where to

01:54:26.080 begin.

01:54:26.380 It's interesting

01:54:26.760 that you talked

01:54:27.300 about cognitive

01:54:27.980 warfare because

01:54:29.060 that was brought

01:54:29.620 out in the

01:54:30.100 Twitter files.

01:54:31.620 I think it was

01:54:31.960 Michael Schellenberger's

01:54:32.740 people released a

01:54:34.220 lot of that, and

01:54:35.040 they had direct

01:54:36.000 quotes from the

01:54:37.740 people within the

01:54:38.540 government, or the

01:54:39.260 people the

01:54:39.780 government were

01:54:40.380 contracting to go

01:54:42.500 after misinformation

01:54:43.800 and disinformation

01:54:44.600 and silence them

01:54:45.480 on social media.

01:54:46.640 Some of the

01:54:47.020 quotes said, I

01:54:47.820 cannot believe

01:54:48.640 we're doing what

01:54:49.420 we did in

01:54:50.060 foreign countries

01:54:51.000 to foreign

01:54:51.760 adversaries now to

01:54:53.460 the American

01:54:53.840 people.

01:54:54.360 They were shocked

01:54:54.900 about it, but

01:54:55.560 they were just

01:54:55.860 kind of joking

01:54:56.300 around it.

01:54:56.780 What you're

01:54:58.220 describing is

01:55:00.280 pretty much

01:55:00.720 something that

01:55:01.120 started off as

01:55:01.680 something called

01:55:02.140 Civil Society

01:55:02.980 2.0.

01:55:04.360 That was a

01:55:05.160 State Department

01:55:05.760 initiative under

01:55:07.400 Barack Obama and

01:55:08.740 Hillary Clinton.

01:55:09.780 to physically go

01:55:10.920 out to some of

01:55:11.500 these places that

01:55:12.220 they identify and

01:55:13.660 teach activists how

01:55:15.160 to use media and

01:55:17.660 information to

01:55:19.360 manipulate the

01:55:20.340 masses.

01:55:21.320 It's amazing.

01:55:22.520 In Ukraine, we

01:55:25.240 have the videotape of

01:55:27.460 the State Department

01:55:28.980 actually going out and

01:55:31.140 doing those classes to

01:55:34.140 foment revolution.

01:55:35.660 It's incredible.

01:55:36.720 It's like they

01:55:38.300 weren't hiding it at

01:55:39.400 all in Ukraine.

01:55:40.500 Absolutely not.

01:55:41.240 No, they bragged

01:55:43.160 about it.

01:55:43.700 They called them

01:55:44.260 something called

01:55:45.080 tech camps that

01:55:47.320 started going out.

01:55:48.780 I think it was

01:55:49.540 around 2009.

01:55:50.940 Now, this is where

01:55:51.420 it gets even

01:55:52.400 crazier, Glenn.

01:55:53.860 So, in 2010, about

01:55:55.940 three or four months

01:55:57.000 before the official

01:55:58.980 start date of the

01:55:59.880 Arab Spring,

01:56:01.140 President Obama

01:56:01.720 issued a

01:56:02.360 presidential study

01:56:03.180 directive.

01:56:03.700 It was Presidential

01:56:04.660 Study Directive 11.

01:56:06.740 To this day, you

01:56:08.500 cannot read it.

01:56:10.160 It is still

01:56:10.800 classified after all

01:56:12.420 these years.

01:56:13.560 We begged the

01:56:14.180 Trump administration

01:56:14.920 to declassify that

01:56:16.520 and it just fell on

01:56:17.480 deaf ears and it is

01:56:18.540 really important.

01:56:20.420 Really important.

01:56:21.340 If you read the

01:56:22.220 screen, the only

01:56:22.900 thing is like a

01:56:23.460 four-word description

01:56:24.480 and the only thing

01:56:25.620 that it says is

01:56:26.920 like political

01:56:27.560 reform or political,

01:56:29.420 yeah, I think it

01:56:29.780 was political reform

01:56:30.660 in the Middle East

01:56:31.500 and Northern Africa.

01:56:32.360 Again, like three

01:56:33.660 or four months

01:56:34.100 before the Arab

01:56:34.780 Spring.

01:56:35.220 The Arab Spring

01:56:36.000 kicks off.

01:56:36.980 These tech camps

01:56:37.860 and Civil Society

01:56:38.480 2.0 start popping

01:56:39.540 up all over

01:56:40.740 Northern Africa

01:56:41.480 and the Middle

01:56:42.260 East.

01:56:42.940 What do you have?

01:56:44.340 Not only that,

01:56:45.280 but we were

01:56:45.660 training some of

01:56:46.440 these NGOs and

01:56:48.080 activists here in

01:56:49.100 the United States.

01:56:50.040 We were training

01:56:50.460 them here in the

01:56:50.880 United States.

01:56:51.780 Then they go back

01:56:52.320 to their countries.

01:56:53.580 People like this

01:56:54.920 NPR chick,

01:56:57.200 Mar,

01:56:58.200 apparently,

01:56:59.380 allegedly,

01:56:59.920 sounds like she

01:57:00.440 was one of them

01:57:01.060 that was kind

01:57:01.620 of checking up

01:57:02.220 on this.

01:57:02.740 I don't know

01:57:03.080 that for certain,

01:57:03.560 but it sounds

01:57:03.880 like it.

01:57:04.720 So one of the

01:57:05.400 things,

01:57:05.620 once you have

01:57:06.000 the seven pillars,

01:57:07.080 there are steps

01:57:08.180 that you have

01:57:08.560 to take and see

01:57:09.160 if you think

01:57:09.580 any of these

01:57:10.320 are happening

01:57:11.060 or have happened.

01:57:12.420 You have to

01:57:13.800 consolidate media

01:57:15.540 control.

01:57:16.860 Done.

01:57:17.040 And you have

01:57:17.900 to weaponize it.

01:57:19.440 Done.

01:57:19.820 You then have

01:57:20.640 to suppress

01:57:21.400 and remove

01:57:23.360 religion.

01:57:25.160 The next thing

01:57:26.100 you have to do

01:57:26.800 is make sure

01:57:27.640 you have

01:57:28.020 control of

01:57:29.000 the educational

01:57:30.000 system to

01:57:31.260 indoctrinate

01:57:32.160 the children

01:57:32.860 on the

01:57:34.220 revolution

01:57:34.740 and on

01:57:36.320 your ideology

01:57:37.380 to be able

01:57:38.120 to overthrow.

01:57:39.360 The next thing

01:57:40.680 is criminal

01:57:41.620 justice overhaul.

01:57:43.440 Criminals go

01:57:44.120 free while

01:57:44.940 law-abiding

01:57:45.680 citizens are

01:57:46.540 arrested and

01:57:47.320 charged with

01:57:47.820 crimes.

01:57:48.360 I mean,

01:57:48.540 come on.

01:57:49.580 Serious?

01:57:50.320 I mean,

01:57:51.400 how do you

01:57:53.180 say we're not

01:57:54.020 doing a color

01:57:54.840 revolution?

01:57:55.460 It just

01:57:57.640 happens to be

01:57:58.900 the list

01:57:59.720 that we're

01:58:00.680 doing and

01:58:01.320 it also

01:58:01.920 happens to

01:58:02.740 be the list

01:58:03.400 of the

01:58:03.680 color revolution

01:58:04.380 steps,

01:58:05.020 but it's not

01:58:06.060 happening here

01:58:06.720 in America.

01:58:07.560 Definitely not.

01:58:08.860 Yeah.

01:58:09.100 Jeez.

01:58:09.680 It's insane.

01:58:10.680 Doing those

01:58:11.520 types of things

01:58:12.120 in other locations

01:58:13.000 that they see

01:58:13.900 are ripe to,

01:58:15.200 again,

01:58:15.640 control masses

01:58:16.300 to get the

01:58:17.340 form of government

01:58:17.880 they want.

01:58:18.800 Then you see

01:58:19.200 certain things

01:58:19.900 like,

01:58:20.260 you know,

01:58:21.460 the Biden

01:58:22.800 administration

01:58:23.400 paying

01:58:24.240 TikTokers

01:58:25.620 and other

01:58:26.540 social media

01:58:27.200 people to

01:58:28.840 basically

01:58:30.220 drive the

01:58:31.860 narrative in

01:58:32.540 the direction

01:58:32.960 the regime

01:58:33.520 wants them

01:58:34.020 to.

01:58:34.620 I mean,

01:58:34.820 that's exactly

01:58:35.760 Civil Society

01:58:36.800 2.0 and

01:58:37.840 tech camps.

01:58:38.560 Exactly.

01:58:39.260 To the T.

01:58:40.180 And then you

01:58:40.580 get something

01:58:41.020 like,

01:58:41.760 you know,

01:58:42.140 if this is

01:58:42.460 true about

01:58:42.860 NPR,

01:58:43.820 I mean,

01:58:44.240 it doesn't

01:58:44.840 get any

01:58:45.180 bigger as

01:58:46.080 far as the

01:58:46.620 amount of

01:58:47.220 people that

01:58:47.680 you can

01:58:48.120 manipulate.

01:58:49.200 People trust

01:58:49.900 NPR.

01:58:50.760 People for a

01:58:51.460 while were

01:58:51.760 like,

01:58:51.920 oh,

01:58:52.180 they were both

01:58:53.080 sides.

01:58:53.660 You know,

01:58:53.860 like I can

01:58:54.160 listen to

01:58:54.460 NPR.

01:58:55.100 Sure,

01:58:55.260 there's a lot

01:58:55.540 of lefty

01:58:55.900 stuff in

01:58:56.280 there,

01:58:56.840 but,

01:58:57.220 you know,

01:58:57.720 it's

01:58:57.940 government

01:58:58.200 funded.

01:58:59.040 I mean,

01:58:59.220 obviously,

01:58:59.960 I would

01:59:00.700 not agree

01:59:01.340 that they're

01:59:01.840 not biased,

01:59:03.040 but I mean,

01:59:03.400 many people

01:59:03.980 would.

01:59:04.740 So if they're

01:59:05.180 directing the

01:59:05.800 narrative in

01:59:06.420 a certain

01:59:06.720 way,

01:59:07.400 again,

01:59:07.900 that is

01:59:08.360 exactly what

01:59:09.160 was happening

01:59:09.640 in foreign

01:59:10.040 governments.

01:59:10.820 So what

01:59:11.140 makes them

01:59:11.600 different,

01:59:12.520 or why

01:59:13.400 is this,

01:59:14.080 I mean,

01:59:14.980 Catherine

01:59:15.440 Meyer,

01:59:16.900 she's the

01:59:17.460 CEO of

01:59:18.140 NPR,

01:59:19.200 and if she

01:59:19.900 is that

01:59:20.540 player,

01:59:21.140 what makes

01:59:21.720 her and

01:59:22.620 NPR more

01:59:23.300 dangerous than

01:59:24.380 MSNBC and

01:59:25.660 CNN,

01:59:26.160 who are all

01:59:26.520 just going

01:59:26.920 along with

01:59:27.320 it anyway?

01:59:28.340 I mean,

01:59:28.920 I would put it

01:59:29.460 on the same

01:59:29.880 level as CNN,

01:59:30.880 maybe,

01:59:31.200 because,

01:59:31.680 again,

01:59:32.160 CNN was

01:59:32.600 considered,

01:59:33.280 like,

01:59:33.880 used to be

01:59:34.780 considered,

01:59:35.400 you know,

01:59:35.820 an even broker,

01:59:38.220 neutral.

01:59:39.500 MSNBC,

01:59:40.040 I would say,

01:59:40.480 is not on that

01:59:41.100 level,

01:59:41.400 because MSNBC,

01:59:42.520 they don't even

01:59:42.900 try to hide it.

01:59:43.560 You know,

01:59:43.700 they are what

01:59:44.120 they are,

01:59:44.800 they're biased,

01:59:46.300 okay,

01:59:46.600 whatever.

01:59:47.180 But if you're

01:59:47.540 going through,

01:59:47.960 like,

01:59:48.100 NPR,

01:59:48.960 or if you're

01:59:49.660 going through

01:59:50.420 random,

01:59:51.300 you know,

01:59:52.360 influencers on

01:59:53.200 social media,

01:59:54.400 you don't know

01:59:56.160 that they're biased.

01:59:57.200 It's just,

01:59:57.700 it's just the

01:59:58.220 common will of

01:59:59.520 the people,

01:59:59.980 right?

02:00:00.900 You start to get

02:00:01.840 a narrative of,

02:00:02.700 this is the

02:00:03.080 direction the

02:00:03.680 country is going

02:00:04.280 in.

02:00:04.580 This is how

02:00:05.460 we should think.

02:00:06.260 This is what

02:00:06.820 we should do.

02:00:07.720 And that's when

02:00:08.160 it starts getting

02:00:08.660 really dangerous,

02:00:09.280 when you have

02:00:09.920 millions of people

02:00:11.320 going in that

02:00:11.880 direction,

02:00:12.680 but it's all a

02:00:13.200 facade.

02:00:13.720 It's all being

02:00:14.220 orchestrated at the

02:00:15.040 top to make

02:00:15.940 people think a

02:00:16.560 certain way.

02:00:18.100 It really is a

02:00:19.340 genius strategy

02:00:20.380 that they devised,

02:00:21.860 again,

02:00:22.780 supposedly,

02:00:23.700 or supposed to

02:00:24.420 go in other

02:00:25.500 foreign countries,

02:00:26.200 but now,

02:00:27.480 is that what's

02:00:28.480 happening here?

02:00:29.640 I mean,

02:00:29.900 the case you laid

02:00:30.500 out makes it sound

02:00:31.220 like it's exactly

02:00:31.860 what's happening

02:00:32.320 here.

02:00:32.720 Another thing of

02:00:33.180 interest,

02:00:33.540 the guy that

02:00:33.980 wrote that,

02:00:34.820 the Seven Pillars,

02:00:35.960 the Michael

02:00:36.260 McFaul,

02:00:37.220 he was never,

02:00:38.380 he was never a

02:00:39.460 diplomat.

02:00:40.380 He just kind of

02:00:41.160 strolled into the

02:00:41.980 Obama administration.

02:00:43.360 He was a

02:00:44.060 Stanford academic,

02:00:45.260 and then suddenly

02:00:46.800 got the most

02:00:47.420 prestigious job

02:00:48.940 in the entire

02:00:49.760 State Department,

02:00:50.860 the ambassador

02:00:51.620 to Russia

02:00:53.060 in Moscow.

02:00:54.660 And then when

02:00:55.040 he was asked,

02:00:55.860 right when he

02:00:56.440 first showed up

02:00:57.180 by a Russian

02:00:58.900 journalist,

02:00:59.640 he's like,

02:00:59.860 what are your

02:01:00.680 qualifications?

02:01:01.300 He's like,

02:01:01.580 ah,

02:01:01.740 well,

02:01:01.900 you know,

02:01:02.580 basically,

02:01:03.160 and I'm paraphrasing,

02:01:04.200 I don't really,

02:01:04.720 you know,

02:01:05.040 I don't really follow

02:01:05.780 that diplomat stuff,

02:01:06.640 but I'm an expert

02:01:08.000 on democracy

02:01:08.740 and,

02:01:09.860 revolution.

02:01:10.860 Okay.

02:01:13.400 So,

02:01:14.080 Jason,

02:01:15.720 we have done

02:01:16.260 so many shows

02:01:17.380 on this,

02:01:18.480 and as always,

02:01:20.520 we will hit

02:01:22.200 something and

02:01:22.800 we'll drill down

02:01:24.040 into it,

02:01:24.720 and we'll always

02:01:25.360 say,

02:01:25.860 oh,

02:01:27.000 what a surprise.

02:01:28.360 Look at who we

02:01:29.120 found.

02:01:29.600 And it's the same

02:01:30.700 circle of people

02:01:32.540 over and over

02:01:33.360 again.

02:01:34.740 I would love for

02:01:35.980 you to maybe

02:01:36.820 post online

02:01:38.840 or at

02:01:39.080 glenbeck.com

02:01:40.040 the links

02:01:40.980 to all of

02:01:41.620 the shows

02:01:42.220 that we

02:01:42.940 explained all

02:01:44.340 of this

02:01:44.860 and showed

02:01:45.800 it in real

02:01:47.220 time,

02:01:47.840 showed what

02:01:48.500 was happening

02:01:49.180 at the time,

02:01:50.480 because

02:01:51.120 I think

02:01:53.260 this fall,

02:01:55.700 if we're not

02:01:56.620 careful,

02:01:57.480 is the color

02:01:58.300 revolution

02:01:58.840 in America.

02:02:00.720 I hope not,

02:02:02.120 but there's a

02:02:04.020 good possibility

02:02:04.740 of it happening.

02:02:06.360 Yeah,

02:02:06.680 I would definitely

02:02:07.680 advise to rewatch

02:02:09.720 at least two

02:02:10.840 shows that I can

02:02:11.280 think of off the

02:02:11.640 top of my head.

02:02:12.120 We have actual

02:02:13.040 video of the

02:02:14.300 people that were

02:02:14.780 pushing this

02:02:15.560 during color

02:02:16.900 revolutions happening

02:02:17.740 in both Eastern

02:02:18.380 Europe and the

02:02:19.020 Middle East.

02:02:19.840 It is wild,

02:02:21.560 and I was just

02:02:22.340 watching another

02:02:22.820 one just now.

02:02:23.660 I'm like,

02:02:24.200 oh my gosh.

02:02:26.140 Just like you

02:02:27.180 said,

02:02:27.460 everything that we

02:02:28.860 were talking about

02:02:29.520 in the past,

02:02:30.260 we'll get a new

02:02:30.800 personality that

02:02:31.400 pops up out of

02:02:32.000 nowhere,

02:02:32.420 like this one

02:02:33.020 right here,

02:02:33.820 that pretty much

02:02:35.140 solidifies what we

02:02:36.000 were talking about.

02:02:36.840 I mean,

02:02:37.040 how far will this

02:02:37.920 go?

02:02:38.180 I don't know.

02:02:39.500 Yeah.

02:02:39.820 Let's see if we

02:02:40.600 can post some of

02:02:41.600 the stuff on X.

02:02:43.020 There's a lot of

02:02:43.560 stuff going on

02:02:44.520 that's really

02:02:45.160 important.

02:02:46.040 The Alexander

02:02:46.660 Dugan,

02:02:47.160 we just spent an

02:02:47.780 hour with Stephen

02:02:48.860 Hicks.

02:02:49.640 We're going to do

02:02:50.340 part two of that

02:02:51.260 tomorrow.

02:02:52.840 Critically important,

02:02:54.640 Tucker Carlson

02:02:55.340 opened the door for

02:02:56.660 a conversation on

02:02:58.000 him,

02:02:59.040 and he's somebody

02:02:59.600 I've been talking

02:03:00.260 about for about

02:03:02.060 10 years.

02:03:03.060 Very dangerous,

02:03:04.000 and so we have

02:03:05.760 to make sure

02:03:06.860 that we explain

02:03:07.740 to everybody

02:03:08.120 exactly who he

02:03:09.300 is and what he

02:03:10.020 wants.

02:03:10.960 And the next

02:03:11.980 thing is the

02:03:13.760 color revolution.

02:03:15.120 So maybe you

02:03:15.860 can organize

02:03:16.400 some things on

02:03:18.540 X and on

02:03:19.360 glenbeck.com.

02:03:20.340 Jason,

02:03:20.640 thank you.

02:03:21.100 Thanks.

02:03:21.920 Appreciate it.

02:03:23.060 So we got a

02:03:23.820 word in yesterday

02:03:24.600 from the folks

02:03:25.180 over at Good

02:03:26.040 Ranchers.

02:03:26.640 They've been

02:03:26.920 running an

02:03:27.420 amazing special

02:03:28.480 at goodranchers.com

02:03:29.620 called the

02:03:30.060 April Price

02:03:31.000 Shield.

02:03:31.500 And the basic

02:03:32.100 idea is if you

02:03:33.040 subscribe to any

02:03:34.000 of their fantastic

02:03:35.380 monthly meat

02:03:36.160 packages during

02:03:37.320 the month of

02:03:37.800 April,

02:03:38.020 you'll lock

02:03:38.760 that price in

02:03:39.740 until 2026.

02:03:41.880 Do you have

02:03:42.580 any idea what

02:03:43.840 inflation could

02:03:44.660 do in the next

02:03:45.400 18 months to

02:03:46.240 the cost of

02:03:46.800 meat?

02:03:48.320 This is a

02:03:49.140 great deal.

02:03:50.000 Well,

02:03:50.160 they didn't want

02:03:50.600 you to miss

02:03:51.020 out on it.

02:03:51.680 April is over

02:03:52.600 in just a couple

02:03:53.300 of days,

02:03:53.620 so they're

02:03:54.040 extending the

02:03:54.880 offer another

02:03:55.840 week until

02:03:56.760 May 8th.

02:03:58.360 So you still

02:03:59.300 have a chance

02:03:59.940 to do it.

02:04:00.500 I don't have

02:04:01.360 to tell you

02:04:01.780 that a lock

02:04:03.260 on your price

02:04:04.040 of meat will

02:04:04.800 save you a

02:04:05.480 ton of money,

02:04:06.360 and it is

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02:04:09.540 chicken,

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02:04:15.820 So please,

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02:04:18.140 investment you

02:04:18.940 can make is

02:04:20.340 in food right

02:04:21.240 now,

02:04:21.660 in things,

02:04:22.300 because inflation

02:04:23.100 is going to

02:04:23.900 start really

02:04:25.960 crippling the

02:04:27.140 average person

02:04:28.040 on food.

02:04:29.660 if you can

02:04:30.300 lock in

02:04:30.920 your price,

02:04:31.820 like if you

02:04:32.200 could buy,

02:04:32.720 I don't know,

02:04:33.040 you like

02:04:33.340 rice-a-roni,

02:04:34.260 if they have

02:04:34.740 a sale on

02:04:35.220 rice-a-roni,

02:04:36.000 buy the next

02:04:36.560 18 months worth

02:04:37.640 of rice-a-roni

02:04:38.720 if you can,

02:04:39.500 and keep it.

02:04:40.300 It will save

02:04:41.160 you money.

02:04:42.500 When it comes

02:04:43.080 to meat,

02:04:43.840 this is outrageous.

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02:04:58.700 That's

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02:05:01.240 This is the

02:05:02.340 Glenn Beck

02:05:03.260 program.

02:05:18.540 There was a time

02:05:19.800 where we had

02:05:20.880 two political

02:05:21.440 sides of the

02:05:22.000 argument,

02:05:22.400 and people

02:05:22.660 would just

02:05:23.180 discuss them

02:05:24.220 and try to

02:05:24.920 win on the

02:05:25.960 basis of

02:05:26.500 persuasion of

02:05:27.320 voters.

02:05:28.200 That's over.

02:05:29.340 We're now

02:05:30.000 throwing our

02:05:30.540 political opponents

02:05:31.240 in prison,

02:05:32.340 and that's the

02:05:32.820 way this works.

02:05:34.160 That's at least

02:05:34.580 part of it.

02:05:35.220 The other part

02:05:35.640 of it is the

02:05:36.140 left has really

02:05:36.760 made an industry

02:05:37.760 up lately,

02:05:38.400 which is

02:05:38.760 lawfare.

02:05:40.880 Lawyers for

02:05:41.560 Hunter Biden

02:05:42.120 now plan to

02:05:43.040 sue Fox News

02:05:44.420 imminently,

02:05:45.360 according to a

02:05:45.880 letter set to

02:05:47.060 the network and

02:05:47.700 obtained by NBC

02:05:48.700 News.

02:05:50.220 The amazing

02:05:51.820 part about this

02:05:52.460 is forever

02:05:53.140 Hunter Biden

02:05:53.900 denied that

02:05:54.960 it was his

02:05:56.160 laptop, or at

02:05:57.600 least never

02:05:58.620 acknowledged that

02:05:59.540 it was his

02:06:00.000 laptop, and

02:06:01.960 he's suing

02:06:03.540 basically saying,

02:06:04.500 well, you put

02:06:05.000 these private

02:06:05.960 images from my

02:06:06.800 laptop on your

02:06:07.900 network.

02:06:09.340 This is an

02:06:10.360 incredible,

02:06:11.060 incredible way to

02:06:11.880 go.

02:06:12.020 By the way,

02:06:12.300 he looks like

02:06:13.580 he has signed

02:06:16.240 up Mark

02:06:16.700 Garagos to

02:06:17.400 represent him,

02:06:19.360 the guy, if I

02:06:20.320 remember right,

02:06:20.940 who represented

02:06:21.480 Michael Jackson

02:06:22.220 back in the

02:06:23.500 day.

02:06:23.840 So, it's

02:06:25.000 some nice

02:06:25.760 company going

02:06:26.360 on with the

02:06:27.080 Biden family,

02:06:28.060 as usual,

02:06:29.060 always hanging

02:06:29.680 around the

02:06:30.160 best possible

02:06:30.880 figures.

02:06:31.860 We'll have

02:06:32.160 more tomorrow

02:06:33.000 and more on

02:06:33.640 Stew Does

02:06:34.140 America tonight,

02:06:35.680 8 p.m.

02:06:36.240 Eastern on

02:06:36.900 Blaze TV.

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The Glenn Beck Program - April 30, 2024

How the NPR CEO’s Actions Look EERILY Similar to Color Revolutions Overseas ｜ Guests： Stephen Hicks & Joseph MacKinnon ｜ 4⧸30⧸24

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