How 'The View' Helped Elect Donald Trump | Guests: Peter St Onge & Tina Descovich | 11⧸12⧸24
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Summary
Preborn Ministries is fighting for moms who are choosing between life and death for their unborn children. By introducing a mom to her child on a free ultrasound, they double the chances that the mother is going to choose life for her child.
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I mean, shutting down the Department of Education?
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Well, I mean, I don't – I'm skeptical whether it will actually occur.
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I am excited about the prospect of a president who actually wants it to happen.
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I feel like it's been – we haven't heard that really since Reagan.
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But, of course, Reagan famously did not actually achieve this goal.
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Reagan also said that he was going to make Jerusalem the capital of Israel.
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I will also say one of the central parts of education policy for Republicans for as long
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as I've been aware of politics have been the idea of, you know, school choice.
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And nothing ever happened until the past couple years.
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Like, now we've come further on school choice than at any other point in my lifetime.
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I think his appointments around this area will be really interesting.
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First, let's start with his plan to overhaul leftist colleges.
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Tuition costs at colleges and universities have been exploding.
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While academics have been obsessed with indoctrinating America's youth,
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the time has come to reclaim our once great educational institutions from the radical left,
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Our secret weapon will be the college accreditation system.
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The accreditors are supposed to ensure that schools are not ripping off students and taxpayers,
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When I return to the White House, I will fire the radical left accreditors that have allowed
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our colleges to become dominated by Marxists, maniacs, and lunatics.
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We will then accept applications for new accreditors who will impose real standards on colleges
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These standards will include defending the American tradition and Western civilization,
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protecting free speech, eliminating wasteful administrative positions that drive up costs
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incredibly, removing all Marxist diversity, equity, and inclusion bureaucrats,
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offering options for accelerated and low-cost degrees, providing meaningful job placement
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and career services, and implementing college entrance and exit exams to prove that students
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are actually learning and getting their money's worth.
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Furthermore, I will direct the Department of Justice to pursue federal civil rights cases
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against schools that continue to engage in racial discrimination,
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and schools that persist in explicit, unlawful discrimination under the guise of equity
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will not only have their endowments taxed, but through budget reconciliation,
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I will advance a measure to have them fined up to the entire amount of their endowment.
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A portion of the seized funds will then be used as restitution for victims of these illegal
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and unjust policies, policies that hurt our country so badly.
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Colleges have gotten hundreds of billions of dollars from hardworking taxpayers,
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and now we are going to get this anti-American insanity out of our institutions once and for all.
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We are going to have real education in America.
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I mean, this is just, oh, say it again, Donald.
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The clearest I have, I've heard him, and the most passionate that I have heard him.
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He doesn't need to make these promises anymore.
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And one other thing I'll be doing very early in the administration is closing up the Department of Education in Washington, D.C.
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and sending all education and education, work and needs back to the states.
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We want them to run the education of our children because they'll do a much better job of it.
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We spend more money per pupil by three times than any other nation, and yet we're absolutely at the bottom.
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We're going to end education coming out of Washington, D.C.
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We're going to close it up, all those buildings all over the place, and yet people that in many cases hate our children,
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Now, do you think he won't do it, or do you think he won't be able to do it?
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But, I mean, if you're focusing on the natural levels of pessimism that I have when it comes to anything going on in Washington.
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Well, I mean, look, I'm trying to be realistic here, you know, but I think that there is, I think, it's interesting because Trump, when he puts his mind to it, he can accomplish anything.
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But there are certain things that he says that are things I think he likes and wants, but aren't central focuses of his life.
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There's no question he's going to do stuff on the border.
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Another example I would use would be term limits.
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He talked often in speeches about term limits in 2016 and 2017.
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I think you, wait, wait, wait, hang on just a second.
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I think to compare Donald Trump's 2016 version, you're looking at a new 2.9 version of Donald Trump, almost a 3.0.
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I'm not, it's not even a criticism of him, though.
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It's just like when you have, you can only focus on so many things.
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Maybe he's going to come up with a whole new way to do it.
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Maybe he's putting all these people in, you know, that are going to be able to kind of shepherd these things so he doesn't have to focus on them all the time.
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You really can only push for one or two things at a time.
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I find these videos that he's putting out to be almost like a fireside chat.
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Have you ever seen a president do this as president elect?
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And, uh, he's putting these out one after another after another because he is preparing the Washington swamp and America.
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These are massive changes coming our way, and we're going to need your support.
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Um, and he has told me, I've got to do all of this in a hundred days, Glenn.
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But, but do you remember that first bill that Barack Obama, uh, put in that we looked at?
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It was one of the first healthcare bills or the, it was TARP.
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And remember, we stimulus plan, was it a stimulus plan?
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I printed it and said, somebody, I didn't know how long it was.
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And it's, it was sitting on our, our kitchen table in our studios in, in New York city.
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And I, and I looked at that and I went, this is not about stimulus.
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And they just loaded that bill with everything.
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The reason why I bring that up is because that showed to me that they did something we never did.
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And they never told us Donald Trump is the first one that I'm seeing doing this.
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He made promises in 16 and he believes in keeping promises, but he didn't get everything done.
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If he fails to make the right appointments, that's going to be a problem.
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Because if he has any internal fighting, they are going to unleash on him.
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And if he has anybody on his own side fighting against him, which he did have last time.
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He's got, there is a mandate here and the Republican should be reminded of that.
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And he should not put anybody in any position that doesn't understand MAGA.
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This is a reset back to the Constitution in as many ways that I have ever seen.
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This is as impactful as what FDR did in the opposite direction in 12 years.
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That's interesting because part, and let me, I'm playing devil's advocate here because
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I have the same level of hope here for what might happen.
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That is a difficult thing to do, getting rid of the Department of Education.
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It wasn't even one term off and he's planning like maybe Donald Trump has done here.
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It was, I mean, this is what this man was known for for multiple decades.
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That was central to his talks in like 1960s, the 60s.
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The Department of Education was started by Jimmy Carter.
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But regardless of that, I have hope and optimism for what he can do.
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But like when you're talking about this is somebody who's, you know, who's going to do
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whatever MAGA thing he, what, I mean, his appointments so far have been pretty normal.
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Like pretty, like Marco Rubio as Secretary of State is like, I mean.
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Any Republican president in that field could have listed Marco Rubio as Secretary of State.
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It's like, I don't even think, I'm not saying it's a bad pick, but like it is not particularly
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consistent with like what I hear from the audience at times about like how against Ukraine
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How against Ukraine and the WEF and the United Nations?
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I mean, I want somebody in the UN that wants to shut it down.
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I mean, and Elise Stefanik is a normie Republican pick.
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I thought she was really, really good on a lot of things.
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I'm not even against either of these picks, but like Marco Rubio, I'm borderline on.
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I like Marco Rubio, but I don't want him as a Secretary of State under Donald Trump where
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I want the guy who will walk in and say, hey, by the way, just got off the phone with
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We're going to make a deal here or I'm going back to tell him we don't have a deal.
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And instead of sending a signed deal to him, we're going to be sending aircraft your way.
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I want somebody who's going to walk into the EU and say, you are either paying your way.
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What he said, he means you're either paying your way or we're done.
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And he's, yeah, he's obviously, I mean, he was under serious consideration for vice president.
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And I think like part of the things with Trump is this is, I think, consistent with him.
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And again, I'm not, this is not, I'm not being critical here.
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I'm just trying to state what I think is actually true.
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Which is a lot of what Donald Trump says is a negotiation.
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And we all know that going back to the art of the deal, right?
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And when he says Kim Jong-un is my best friend, he doesn't mean it, right?
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He doesn't also mean the next day when he says, we're sending, we're going to go nuke, you know, North Korea tomorrow.
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I want to go through the things that he has said, and I want you to point out what you think is a negotiation.
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We know that those two positions can't be true, though.
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Like, and this is a 2016, or 21st term reference here.
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But like, saying you're going to, you know, we're going to, you know, blast North Korea, like, you know, you've never seen.
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But I think there's a difference the way he deals with dictators.
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He knows because he's a private businessman who has bullied his way in very good negotiating ways.
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And so he knows these are the things I would hate in business, and I've done them to people who think they're all that, and I always win.
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I think that's different than what he's doing on, for instance, the Department of Ed.
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But, like, I think it's consistent with what you would do with Marco Rubio or Elise Stefanik.
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You're picking people who are maybe more hawkish than you to send a message of being hawkish, while at the same time maybe trying to implement a more, say, J.D. Vance-ish type forward policy.
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I don't think, maybe, maybe, maybe, that could be.
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I don't want to, I'm going to give this man the benefit of the doubt, because in 16, I didn't, and I was shocked by what he got done.
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And now I really think that he means every word he says on these policies.
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So, I take them literally, not just seriously, but literally, but I could be wrong, but the only, my only thing on some of his appointments is, what does he know that I don't know about Marco Rubio?
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So, Marco Rubio, though, is – he's been for the money going to Ukraine, hasn't he?
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Certainly much more positive on it than a J.D. Vance.
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You know, this is – he's been pretty – I mean, Rubio's been pretty consistently hawkish since the time he's come into the public eye, which is, I think, pretty consistent with the Republican Party.
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But, like, this – and, again, it's important to note the sort of, like, anti-Ukraine funding element of the Republican Party, which is significant, is not universal in the Republican Party to this day.
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Like, that is – it's not like a, I don't know, lower taxes versus higher taxes type of thing.
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I mean, there is a decent amount of disagreement inside the Republican caucus when it comes to that issue.
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But I think we're – you know, he's been much more on the hawkish side.
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I think it's consistent with – with, I don't know, a pre-Trump Republican position on a lot of those issues.
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I mean, he has warned, let's not put all of our eggs into one basket in Ukraine.
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But, you know, he would have done it, you know, for reasons like they're eating the dogs, you know.
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We spent the weekend decorating Christmas tree.
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And, you know, I just feel like we should just take this time and enjoy this time.
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This is her singing, I'll be home for Christmas with the Czech, I don't know, Philharmonic or whatever it is, National Orchestra.
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They're very picky on their name and I don't really care.
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And they're way over there and I'm over here so I don't care.
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You've used them for their instruments and now you can say whatever the hell you want.
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And this is all standards that you'll be able to sing along with and done in the traditional style.
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So, my wife sent me a social media post of you listening, I guess, for the first time to something, one of the songs, and your daughter over your shoulder.
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I like your little relationship with your – I mean, I don't like you, but I like you and your family.
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There's a warm part I have for your family and then I think you're involved and then I don't like it.
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But generally speaking – no, this is going to be great.
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Like, that's too much of a hassle for you to actually let me hear it.
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Let's go back to what we were talking about here a minute ago.
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And that is some of the picks that Donald Trump is making.
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And some of the people that he has chosen – you know, I like Marco Rubio.
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I don't – I wanted somebody stronger in the Department of State and here's why.
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You've got to fire everybody for the first two floors.
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You know, the top two floors, all of them gone.
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This is something that, by the way, Donald Trump known for.
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In fact, the thing he was most famous for until he became president of the United States.
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I think it's interesting because with Rubio, you think of – he strikes me as a guy who
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Like he's probably competently manage the State Department.
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He doesn't strike me as a guy who's going to come out and blow out the first two floors.
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I think he could effectively manage the State Department.
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The State Department, a lot of that is CIA bullcrap.
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A lot of this, what the State Department does is really not what you think the State Department – hey, I'm here to make a treaty.
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And let's get all of these people who think they know better than every president they've ever served out of there.
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You know, I'll tell you what, if we keep the world destabilized, then we're going to be in power.
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That only creates enemies all around the world.
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Let's be friends to everyone unless they're enemies of ours.
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It may be, and he knows something about Marco Rubio that I don't know.
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Yeah, and Rubio, I think, has changed a little bit in his policy platform over the years.
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And I hate to throw him under the bus because I actually –
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We've met with him a million times, and I like him.
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Yeah, and I don't think – I mean, I wouldn't say at all that we're throwing him under the bus.
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Like, I think it's the type of thing that an old-school Republican who is skeptical of Donald Trump
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and afraid he's going to pick crazy people in every role would be calmed by, right?
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I think that if you are a foreign ally, you might look at this and be like, wait a minute,
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they told us he was going to pick all crazy people, and Marco Rubio is totally an expected type of pick
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So I think from that perspective, like, that can make you nervous or that can make you hopeful.
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I think that, you know, Rubio – and I did look back at his Ukraine funding, by the way.
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I would say, if you follow the pattern, early on he supported some of the funding
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and I think became more skeptical of it as it went on.
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So that's not completely inconsistent with Trump's position.
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Because the last time, he didn't know who to pick.
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I had to pick all these people, and I didn't know who.
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You know, and now he still has to pick, like, 4,000 people.
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I think Rubio – I mean, look, Rubio is under serious consideration for the vice presidential slot
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I think he is pretty aligned with Donald Trump.
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It'll just be interesting to see because these – as we've seen with Trump, at times,
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these relationships tend to crumble a little bit after a positive start.
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But if you're taking a role like Secretary of State, Glenn, I mean, you know, you are taking
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a role that is under, quite clearly, the President of the United States.
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Your job is to execute the policy of the President.
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Your job is not to go out there with your own views and –
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Everybody on the top two floors needs to know that on their way out with their box of stuff.
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Oh, I thought I knew better than the President.
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So, that is – that is just – I pray for a quick death when it comes to Cornyn.
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For yourself, by the way, you should point out, you're talking about yourself dying.
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Yeah, maybe I have, you know, third stage cancer, you know what I mean?
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And then I have somebody who I'm like, okay, I might have a cold from time to time.
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I want the President to say, J.D., here's what you're going to do.
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You're going to go in and you're going to do what John Adams did.
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And you're going to sit in that chair and you're going to say, hey, you know what?
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Now, maybe he will do that if whoever is selected doesn't play ball.
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You know, remember, they'll drag things out and drag things out and drag things out.
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Donald Trump right now is saying, all of these have to be approved right now.
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And if they don't, they're going to tie up all the rest.
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And you tell me if I'm reading this situation wrong.
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It strikes me as Donald Trump thinks getting the recess appointment possibility where he can name all these other people is more important than who the actual Senate majority leader is.
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And then he's willing to go with any of them if they'll give him that piece.
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And I think if he does not come out and say he wants Rick Scott to get this job, there's no chance of it happening.
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I think he's trying to let the system play itself, not create any enemy.
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Remember, 100 days to fundamentally strip all of this stuff out.
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The Democrats right now, they've been working for the last year on trying to figure out how to cement this plan into place that they have.
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So he's not only got to go find everything that they every button and lever and everything that they've turned up, turned down, shut on, shut off, turned on.
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He's got to go in there and find all of it and then rip it out.
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He has 100 days to get these people in line and working if he doesn't get that.
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So he's got to play hardball from the very beginning.
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And there's nobody better at playing hardball than Donald Trump.
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So if he is quiet on the Senate, believe me, he remembers what a pain in the ass Mitch McConnell was.
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So if he's being quiet, I trust him as a negotiator.
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He's got something up his sleeve that, oh, you want to screw with me?
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But if you don't follow and get this stuff done, I'm building a building over your house.
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Yeah, because look, a part of this dance is picking your battles.
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And it strikes me, I could be wrong on this, but it strikes me as that Donald Trump has
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not identified Senate majority leader as a top tier battle for him.
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In hearing him when we're out on the campaign trip.
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Well, Rick Scott is not a top tier priority so far.
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But he has said on the campaign trail, I have to have the Senate.
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I think he's, I think, I think his last name says everything.
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From the Heritage Foundation, a visiting fellow, we have Peter Sénon.
00:48:30.640
So, without getting it too steamy in here, let's go over the tariffs because I've always been against tariffs.
00:48:43.340
Donald Trump is making a good case when he's talking about getting rid of the income tax because tariffs will raise the prices of things, especially if he does it the way he's talking about doing it.
00:48:56.380
Um, but if he is getting rid of or lowering the income tax to, you know, 10 percent, it's such a boon for the economy that we could make up that deficit and become a very powerful nation again.
00:49:18.040
And economists, you know, the vast majority of economists go after tariffs.
00:49:23.320
And I think they are looking at the trees for the forest here, because if you replace a tariff, which is basically a sales tax, but it's one that focuses on imported goods.
00:49:36.220
If you replace that with either reducing or, you know, in our dream scenario, abolishing the entire income tax is absolutely rocket fuel for the economy.
00:50:07.100
And he actually floated abolishing it with Joe Rogan a couple of weeks ago.
00:50:11.760
You know, he had been going after he said no tax on tips and then no tax on overtime, no tax on first responders, no tax on social security.
00:50:18.460
And it was kind of like, he was really flirting with just breaking up with the income tax altogether.
00:50:24.120
And when he was on there with Rogan, that's exactly what he did.
00:50:26.640
He said, you know, we, maybe we should go back to the 1800s.
00:50:31.040
Uh, when, you know, that was before we had an income tax.
00:50:34.700
And back then, the federal government had to live off tariffs.
00:50:38.760
And that was the greatest period, not only of economic growth, but of cultural achievement.
00:50:44.680
It is astounding what we, everything Elon Musk does was invented in the 1880s.
00:50:52.560
Computers, magnetism, rockets, uh, what's his, uh, Hyperloop.
00:51:01.880
And the key there was that we did not have an income tax.
00:51:08.380
So if Trump can take us back there and all we have to do is like an 8% sales tax on Chinese stocks, that is the deal of the century.
00:51:17.420
So let's go over the, who pays the tariffs, American companies or the foreign country?
00:51:24.140
Interestingly, during Trump's first term, he put tariffs on China and China actually paid about 80% of those.
00:51:33.200
So it would issue subsidies to Chinese exporters so they could maintain market share and keep their prices low.
00:51:43.140
So if he does it again, he's talking about hitting China with something like 60% tariffs and then between a 10 and 20% tariff for everybody else.
00:51:53.360
Now, given Trump's style, he is not going to come in and do that across the board.
00:51:58.540
He's going to come in and use that as a club, right?
00:52:01.760
So the Europeans specifically, they act like a fortress.
00:52:08.220
If you want to export the Europe, they will, they put you over a barrel.
00:52:12.040
You know, Beryl, you remember a couple of years ago with Brexit, the first thing the European Union did was sat them down and said, nice economy you got here.
00:52:21.760
We're going to need a payment from you every single year.
00:52:26.580
They do that to Norway, Switzerland, all these countries have to fork over billions of dollars to get access to the European market.
00:52:36.620
We say, hey, listen, we got this beautiful economy.
00:52:41.300
Here, why don't you write me a check for $50 billion to keep access?
00:52:46.640
So the first thing Trump's probably going to do, given what he did last time, is he'll call up Europe and he will do the exact same thing.
00:52:53.760
He'll say, you know, I got a 20% tariff burning a hole in my pocket.
00:52:57.400
I need you to do something for some things for me.
00:53:00.220
But anyway, even if he does end up applying those to all foreigners, the Europeans are not going to cover the exporters because they're in a deep fiscal hole.
00:53:14.540
But a lot of those tariffs, especially the ones for China, are probably going to keep getting paid by China because exports to America are what they live on.
00:53:24.560
And we should not be empowering them, quite honestly.
00:53:33.100
I'm willing to listen to tariff talk because in my cute little head, I keep thinking that when you have an extra $20,000 or $30,000 that you're pulling in every year,
00:53:51.220
whatever it is you were paying in income tax and everything goes down that's made here in America, if you're not paying that income tax,
00:54:01.420
you have a lot of extra buying power, which means most Americans will spend that and we'll grow our economy, which will put more taxes.
00:54:12.020
Well, we don't have tax, so that wouldn't work.
00:54:22.340
So, the first thing that happens is if you get rid of the income tax altogether, so I estimate you get about a 20% jump in incomes in the U.S.
00:54:33.020
So, that would be something like $15,000 for a typical family.
00:54:38.500
The typical family currently in America pays about $18,000 in income tax.
00:54:44.420
And then you knock off about $3,000 for the tariffs.
00:54:47.500
There's a variety of estimates on that, but that seems to be the cluster.
00:54:50.720
So, you get a $15,000 raise because the economy is growing faster.
00:54:54.960
You get an $18,000 raise because you don't have to, you know, send your income tax to the government.
00:55:00.580
People don't realize how much they're paying to the government, right?
00:55:03.920
But at any rate, you know, you've got the guy where they call it withholding.
00:55:11.180
You're looking at a $30,000 raise per year, $25,000 a month.
00:55:15.320
Now, currently, the median American take-home is about $58,000, okay, which is about $76,000 minus the income tax.
00:55:24.180
So, you go from taking home $58,000 to taking home $88,000, right?
00:55:32.120
But the next one happens is exactly what you just mentioned.
00:55:49.060
Why is that the part you like so much in his movies?
00:56:01.980
I mean, you know, if you're making $88,000, you can go to Vegas, and things happen in Vegas.
00:56:12.340
Well, and so that's the fun part, right, is you mentioned earlier that if you're not paying income tax, then production in the U.S. is cheaper.
00:56:19.880
So instead of the Chinese stocks coming in, you know, they used to come in for whatever, $6.
00:56:27.960
But China's paying for that, so they're probably still coming in at $6.
00:56:31.020
But meanwhile, American factories can make stocks for less because they are not paying the income tax.
00:56:37.800
There's a very good chance that we're going to steal a lot of that manufacturing, even if the Chinese government pays for the tariffs.
00:56:44.880
And that means also because the economy, we're building factories, we're doing things ourself because we can, everybody's pay goes up because we need more workers, right?
00:57:00.980
And then if you do mass deportations, then those jobs will actually go to Americans.
00:57:06.320
One of them is that China covers the tariffs, in which case it's a free lunch for us.
00:57:11.940
You know, China's what, sending us about $500 billion.
00:57:15.360
Well, their share would be, let's say, $300 billion.
00:57:19.900
Or China does not cover the tariffs, in which case Chinese goods are priced out of the market.
00:57:25.260
American goods pay no income tax, so they're cheaper.
00:57:27.620
By the way, every headquarter on Earth would try to move to the United States.
00:57:31.700
If you're paying no income taxes in the single biggest economy on Earth, everybody is going to be moving here, including the Chinese companies.
00:57:39.420
So, right, the worst case scenario, the Chinese don't cover it, and then they get out-competed, and all those jobs come back to America.
00:57:47.260
And if it's only Americans living here, then Americans are going to be swimming in jobs.
00:57:58.360
I mean, he has only kind of floated this on the Rogan show.
00:58:14.720
It's like a, just like the perfect mutant president that we can talk about.
00:58:19.100
Peter, isn't the complication here, though, that he can essentially do what he wants with tariffs, but he can't do what he wants with the income tax?
00:58:33.480
So he would need Congress to play ball on the income tax, and Congress is very tight, as we're all discussing at the moment.
00:58:42.080
So that's going to need, you know, the pressure and the passion that people showed during the campaign, where millions of Americans showed.
00:58:51.320
Yeah, we're going to have to put that on the rhinos.
00:58:52.860
Yeah, I think that if he did, you know, a tour, even, and it was just all about income tax, you just have to say to people, you go from 58 to 88 in take-home pay.
00:59:08.320
I think a lot of people will be like, you know what?
00:59:12.860
I agree, but you're not going to get, obviously.
00:59:15.120
So in theory, you could put it into a reconciliation bill, right?
00:59:20.980
You couldn't, you know, not a constitutional amendment, unfortunately.
00:59:23.640
That's what I would prefer, repealing the 16th.
00:59:26.840
But you could capture Americans' imagination with this.
00:59:32.220
I think that's pretty, that would be pretty great.
00:59:35.100
I do think you'd have issues with some of these, as you, you know, point out, rhino-type Republicans that, who complain, would complain about all sorts of things, including deficit stuff, right?
00:59:47.700
Like they would say, or we're going to lose all this income.
00:59:50.100
So let me take a break, and then let's talk about the deficit, Peter, all right?
00:59:53.980
Peter St. Onge, he is, I'm not going to hold it against him for being French.
00:59:58.740
I mean, somewhere in his past, somebody had sex with a Frenchman.
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He's with the Heritage Foundation, a visiting fellow.
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This is definitely the weirdest interview he's ever done.
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He's like, this is the end of my career and my credibility.
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Okay, I think I got this number from you, Peter,
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but tariffs would bring in about $900 billion, almost a trillion dollars.
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But we're spending now, I don't even know how much, $4 trillion a year, some crazy number like that.
01:01:57.300
There's a five and a half billion dollar, trillion dollar gap.
01:02:04.400
So income tax itself is taking about two and a half trillion.
01:02:07.760
And then you've got payroll, you've got excise, things like gasoline, cigarettes, whatnot.
01:02:17.080
You've got capital gains, corporate income tax.
01:02:21.300
Those hopefully would be folded into an income tax repeal, those last two.
01:02:26.440
You put it together and you're looking at about $2.4 trillion in lost revenue.
01:02:31.180
And then you've got 900 in tariffs coming in for it.
01:02:36.380
Now, if the economy grows 20%, then you're going to get about $500 billion more from payroll tax and from excise.
01:02:47.380
So you're looking at a net loss of $1 trillion.
01:02:50.880
Now, I personally would prefer to get rid of the payroll tax as well.
01:03:08.200
So, you know, in a perfect world, we're not taxing work at all.
01:03:13.920
But in the grand scheme, you know, in terms of incentives, get rid of the income tax first.
01:03:18.840
And then we can have the next conversation, which would be getting rid of the payroll tax.
01:03:22.740
So if we just get rid of the income tax, we're talking about 2.4 net of the tariffs.
01:03:28.200
Net of the economic growth, you're talking $1 trillion.
01:03:31.740
So you'd be cutting $1 trillion out of a budget of about $6.5.
01:03:36.360
Now, Elon is, you know, he's talking about Doge, his Department of Government Efficiency, and he's floating $2 trillion.
01:03:48.980
I'm certain that we can cut much more than that.
01:03:51.640
The easy part is just cutting out the parts of the military that invade foreign countries.
01:03:56.840
So bring them home, put them on the border, put them in the Coast Guard, convert the Navy ships into Coast Guard ships that patrol our waters, stop invading other countries.
01:04:05.400
That'd be a very easy $800 billion if we look at countries like Japan or UK, which have, you know, UK has a functioning military.
01:04:14.360
It's got a Coast Guard, although it doesn't use it.
01:04:23.820
Of course, you can cut welfare for able-bodied people, which, you know, the government tries very, very hard to hide how much it spends on welfare.
01:04:34.020
The cost of illegals themselves, which very conservatively is about $150 billion a year, maybe closer to $300 billion by some estimates, because, again, they're trying to hide the costs.
01:04:45.180
Pharmaceutical, right, there is a – that's going to be coming into focus with RFK here, but there is a ton of waste and corruption in pharmaceutical payments.
01:04:57.360
So you can go through those, but really, you know, if you sort of zoom out, you're very familiar with the Tenth Amendment.
01:05:04.440
There are precisely four agencies that are authorized, right, state, justice, defense, treasury, with post offices.
01:05:11.780
And so, strictly speaking, if we had a Supreme Court that actually read the common-sense language in the Tenth Amendment, almost the entire thing is gone.
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Personally, I would keep Social Security and Medicare because they've already been paid for.
01:05:30.700
You've got to make sure that people are protected because they already got ripped off on the way in.
01:05:35.300
But aside from that, almost everything they do, these – from DEI to just – to the Federal Reserve, all of that is unconstitutional.
01:05:44.140
You slash that down and you are – gosh, you're probably more than $3 trillion down.
01:05:52.360
Is he putting the team in around him to do something like this?
01:05:57.060
So the closest we have – I follow Polymarket very closely.
01:06:01.340
They've got odds on pretty much everything out there.
01:06:04.120
And the sort of tip of the spear on income tax repeal is starting with tax on tips, right?
01:06:10.740
That was the one that he most clearly promised.
01:06:13.680
And so that's kind of a proxy for whether we're going to start hacking away at the income tax.
01:06:20.040
So tax on tips is currently running 38% on Polymarket.
01:06:25.340
That's encouraging because it means it's not just talk that, you know, people with capital behind them believe it's real.
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But for sure, Congress is going to have to play ball if we're going to get a pig.
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So we were talking about the average person's take-home pay going from $58,000 to $88,000.
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So Stu, of course, is a little black rain cloud on the $58,000.
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The average person's take-home pay, $58,000 to $88,000.
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StuDoesMerch.com has mugs that say, repeal the 16th Amendment.
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If you can, do the three things needed in this plan.
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Two, cut spending by multiple trillions of dollars.
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You do those things, you can have any tariff you want.
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I would be completely for eliminating all of them.
01:11:18.520
If you can do all that, I'm completely fine with whatever...
01:11:21.480
You can put 1 trillion percent tariffs on Chinese whatever goods, whatever you want.
01:11:27.860
I'm fine with it if you can do those other two things.
01:11:34.380
Isn't it a bit of a fantasy to get those two things done?
01:11:50.960
And so it's interesting how you could just immediately go into the exact porn.
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Apparently, his favorite part of all the movies is when the pizza shows up.
01:12:30.960
I would have said the exact same thing about Roe versus Wade being overturned.
01:12:39.740
I would have also told you that would not occur in 2015.
01:12:50.360
But it does, to me, noting my experience of the past 40 plus years of life, seems highly,
01:13:01.240
highly suspect that those two things will get done.
01:13:08.400
And everything that we've known from experience...
01:13:22.480
Like, I would be surprised if they can't get a tax cut done.
01:13:33.800
What part do you not think the American people will embrace 58,000 to 88,000 in take-home
01:13:45.960
What they will not like is hearing about all the programs that will go away.
01:13:51.840
And all you'll have to say is $58,000 to $88,000.
01:13:57.820
And, yes, I'm sure Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski and a bunch of other rhino senators will go
01:14:05.080
If people stand up the way they've stood up, this is a positive thing to rally about.
01:14:09.360
You don't think there would be marches all over?
01:14:12.220
You don't think he would just pack people by the buttload into stadiums across...
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He would be able to rally American people like nobody else.
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What is the percentage you'd need to cut the federal budget?
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And he lowered the income tax from, like, 95% to, like, 5%.
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You don't have to sell me on the Calvin Coolidge presidency.
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I would love Calvin Coolidge to come back to life and his policies to be passed.
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Calvin Coolidge is known as a great president to conservatives because he accomplished something
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Because Woodrow Wilson, the progressive, just started gobbling everything up and everybody
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He was put into a situation where they scared the hell out of every American.
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And they were like, okay, this isn't going to work.
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And by the way, just let me just say the roaring 20s.
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At the beginning, nobody had a telephone, refrigeration, electricity.
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It would be a nice little retro thing to have another roaring 20s.
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Because, you know, and I think it's better than previous approaches, right?
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Where previously it was like, well, what if we only increase the budget by 1% a year?
01:16:46.560
And in 10 years, we would be able to balance the budget.
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Like those type of approaches, which are kind of technically maybe accurate, they don't inspire
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He's stepping up and saying, see that space that everybody says we can't get to?
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But hey, I've been totally skeptical that it will occur.
01:17:24.140
And I'm concerned because, look, we know that Donald Trump likes tariffs.
01:17:30.200
But the problem is like you have two very difficult things to do, which is cut multiple
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trillions of dollars from a budget, which there's been no appetite.
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By the way, we should also note here that Donald Trump ran on multiple times, not digging
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in to massive programs that are the massive major cause of our debt.
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Things like Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid.
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He doesn't want to touch those programs, which is OK.
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But like you can't cut 70 percent, 75 percent of your budget unless you touch those programs.
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What do you say if Donald Trump proposes anyone making under $100,000 a year and we're not going
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If you're married, we're not going to we're not going to punish you with a combined income.
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OK, so 50K a person, 50K a person, 58K, you know, is the average salary, 58K, you know,
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We're going to count both of you under 100,000.
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Everybody above them pays a flat tax of 15 percent.
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First of all, you know what the media is going to do with that claim.
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I think I think there's something to that, but I think there would be a lot of it would
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be difficult for a lot of these, let's say, purple state, purple district representatives
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to go along with such things when their programs are being cut.
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You know, I don't see how you cut the trillions of dollars out of the budget without touching
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the programs that Donald Trump has promised not to touch.
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So that would be a difficult thing to deal with.
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And second, beyond that, he can just do the tariffs.
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And the problem with the tariffs are if you go through this fantasy league situation where
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all of this goes comes true and all of our wildest dreams are here and now you're depending
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That's fantastic, except for the fact that if the tariffs work and we move all of our
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manufacturing back to America, there's no one paying tariffs anymore.
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So now you're cutting another 75 percent off, which, again, I'm probably fine with, but
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This is the reason why I want tariffs and I'm for tariffs in the first place.
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We've got to build our manufacturing base back.
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So if you just go, let's say you let's say you say you pay tariffs, you pay nothing here.
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You give them a 15 percent income tax when the tariffs don't work anymore.
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They're still they're not going anywhere because nobody's offering a 15 percent corporate tax.
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So you're then reinstituting the you do in theory, you address that when you get there.
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And probably the answer to all of this is there are less extreme options that sort of balance each
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But I mean, we're not going to move all of our manufacturing back.
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And nor that would that even be a good thing, frankly.
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I mean, like if anything, we've learned that maybe having diversity of where places are,
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where things are made is probably a good thing.
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Because if we get a bad president here that says, hey, I'm going to shut down this industry
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We want to make sure we that stuff is still being made somewhere in the world because Donald
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Yeah, you have to know one in their right mind.
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Twenty five years ago, 30 years ago, any time in America would have said, well, except for
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prohibition when the progressives were doing it.
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Nobody would have ever said, well, they're going to destroy this industry.
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That's why I worry about all this stuff whenever.
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That's why this stuff has to be passed into law.
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You're listening to the swingin' sounds of Glenn Beck.
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Let me play a couple of pieces of audio that came out yesterday.
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On the campaign trail, President-elect Donald Trump repeatedly promised to launch what he
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calls the largest deportation operation in American history, targeting undocumented
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By the way, there are roughly 11 million undocumented immigrants living in this country today.
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And the CBS News analysis found it would cost up to $216 billion over Trump's next term to
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Just to break that down, that's $54 billion per year.
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For comparison, last year's budget allocation for the Immigration and Customs Enforcement
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But beyond the price tag, the bigger question is, how exactly would these massive deportations
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Trump has said he'll deploy the National Guard to detain undocumented immigrants, tap into
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local law enforcement to keep track of them, and ramp up workplace raids.
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He has pledged to invoke the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, which allows the president to detain
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The last time it was used was during World War II for the internment of Japanese Americans.
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Of course, Congress later apologized and provided reparations for Japanese internment.
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Acknowledging that it was rooted in racial prejudice.
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They just name him the best president of all time.
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You know, Donald Trump needs to have, needs to not take credit for this one thing being
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the biggest, even though I think it will be the biggest.
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He deported 11 million people in eight years, and nobody said a word.
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Most people don't even know Bill Clinton deported more people in the United States than any other
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I'm just going to take the recipe from the Democratic Party.
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Welcome to the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.
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Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.
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So he hates women so much, Donald Trump, that he is, I'll tell you, he is going to just keep them in the kitchen or his cabinet or as chief of staff, which no woman has ever done before.
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He hates them that much. He's going to give them those positions.
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He hates minorities. He hates the brown folks so much that he's going to make Marco Rubio the secretary of state, which he would then be the highest position Hispanic in the U.S. government.
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This week's shaping up to be another great week.
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I think about that week and all the wonderful things that have happened.
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There's a lot to be thankful for as we approach Thanksgiving.
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If I had to ask you, Stu, what is the thing that you are most grateful for?
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I think the thing I'm most grateful for, Glenn, is the fact that the thing that really cost Kamala Harris the election was the view.
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You remember, it was on the view where they said, what would you change?
01:30:37.960
I don't, would you, every woman at home was like, oh my God.
01:30:45.720
Yeah, that, how many times, Glenn, did we sit on here yelling about the one question with the, somebody needs to ask.
01:30:54.580
Is what, give me one single example of something you would change, something you oppose, something you went to Biden and said, hey, you got to change this man.
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We didn't think there would be a reporter in the world that would ask her that question.
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And do you remember when it happened, we were live on the air.
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The, the one person who finally stepped up with the correct question, the most basic, obvious question that needed to be asked to Kamala Harris was somebody on the view.
01:31:31.520
And so, really, like, this went immediately into Trump ad after Trump ad after Trump ad after Trump ad.
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And it, I think, arguably, was a key, was the difference.
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Because they tried to hide that fact for a long time.
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How can you convince the American people that the vice president of the United States is not the change candidate?
01:32:02.760
And the, what we came down to was someone needs to get her on the record saying what she would change.
01:32:08.480
And the answer was she couldn't think of anything.
01:32:11.720
After having three months to prepare for that question, she had nothing.
01:32:17.860
And what's interesting about this, and one of the, I think, the, I think the truth of that moment is the left-leaning media ecosphere all knew what they had to do.
01:32:34.640
They all knew, just like I know, just like you know, just like everybody in the audience knows, Kamala Harris has absolutely no ability whatsoever to think on her feet.
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They all were 100% in on the same information that any human being should be able to suss out from watching her for 10 seconds.
01:32:57.780
So, they very carefully catered and tailored their interviews to make sure she would never be put in that position.
01:33:09.440
They were very, very careful with what they asked her, how they asked her the questions.
01:33:16.040
When they asked difficult questions, quote unquote difficult questions, they would provide answers in the questions so that she could latch on to what they said and she could just go along with it.
01:33:25.500
They did everything they could to massage those interviews to get her through her weak points.
01:33:34.580
And while the left is wrong on a lot of things, they're not idiots.
01:33:43.580
And those people, those idiots, didn't understand the game.
01:33:50.960
They thought the pitch of Kamala Harris as this strong, independent, brilliant woman was real.
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They thought to themselves, oh, we can ask that question.
01:34:01.020
If you were asking a hard question and you're the view and you want that candidate to win, you'd say, I'm going to ask you a hard question.
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You know, you might want to think about, you know, what you would do differently.
01:34:23.740
They actually thought she'd be able to answer that.
01:34:27.360
And can you imagine how all of their hearts sunk when she said, really nothing?
01:34:32.940
They all must have gone, oh, dear God, I'm stupid, but not that stupid.
01:34:36.380
And then when they saw their stupid faces in tens of millions of dollars of ads against their candidate, when they're telling everybody in there, oh, this is going to be Hitler.
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I really wish I had Elon Musk money because I would just do an ad.
01:35:02.880
I'd buy up every single ad on ABC that hour for, you know, for weeks just gloating.
01:35:16.340
Whatever campaign money Donald Trump has, right, they should do a giant thank you to the women of The View for their role in getting Donald Trump elected.
01:35:29.240
By the way, I'm not the only person thinking, James Carville came out in an interview and said that was the key moment in the campaign.
01:35:35.560
The big mistake she made was not having an answer to that question, and it was The View.
01:35:44.980
Because, I guess, because she really was going to do the same thing.
01:35:52.520
It was whoever is running this country right now.
01:35:55.020
So, you know, whoever the president is, whether that's Barack Obama or a committee and a star champ, I don't know who actually is running the place.
01:36:03.460
But she was like, well, I'm just going to keep doing what, you know, what we're doing now.
01:36:13.440
I mean, she is, you'd think she's aware enough to know that's a problem.
01:36:16.880
I mean, if you watch her ads, though, I think she did.
01:36:20.060
She said stuff like she was going to be tough on the border.
01:36:30.040
The reason why she wasn't doing interview after interview after interview at the beginning is she knew her own weakness.
01:36:53.560
Because the Democrats and Kamala campaign tried to manipulate their dumb voters into thinking, actually, she's tough on the border.
01:37:08.740
But what they didn't realize is the view is they're dumb.
01:37:14.960
They're the people falling for your messaging, not helping you along with it.
01:37:28.680
I love the fact that Joy Behar is in the middle of getting Adolf Hitler, quote unquote, elected.
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I don't think it could have come out any better.
01:37:48.840
Because they haven't had themselves thrown up against the wall for the last 20 years.
01:38:00.500
Because they've controlled all of the institutions.
01:38:15.020
And everybody just keeps, because you're not challenged, you don't have a chance to actually, in your own head, fight that battle.
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You're not thinking about, well, what happens if I say that?
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And if I say that, then this is going to happen and this is going to happen.
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Because you're protected by everybody in these institutions.
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They didn't realize those institutions were over.
01:38:43.280
They were so bloated, so fat, so arrogant, because no one's challenged them.
01:38:52.200
They just were living in their own little dummy bubble.
01:38:56.060
And when all of a sudden Joe Rogan comes up and he's like, yeah, I got 100 million people watching this.
01:39:04.500
And they're like, well, we got 20 million to watch a debate, which everybody in America was supposed to watch.
01:39:20.240
They're not going to get smarter because there's no honest questioning even now.
01:39:25.100
They're still in the same bucket going, you know what?
01:39:35.080
What it's been is essentially to expand the accusations of racism and sexism to Hispanics and black people.
01:39:47.760
And people have pointed this out a few times over the past couple of weeks.
01:39:54.000
Somebody wrote it about how, like, hey, you know, the left missed essentially this giant shift into what people care about, the podcast world and those types of things, those types of audiences.
01:40:04.860
And the right essentially successfully built some level of ecosphere outside of just talk radio with podcasters, people like Joe Rogan.
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And one of the answers to this was, hey, like, well, we need to come up with our own left-leaning Joe Rogan.
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And people pointed out, though, guess who that was?
01:40:28.060
Joe Rogan was the left-leaning Joe Rogan until you people all went insane.
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They bashed Bernie Sanders and said the correct response to Joe Rogan is to ostracize him because he says things that are mean sometimes.
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And they attacked him and they wouldn't go back on his shows.
01:40:51.820
And people who did go on his shows got ostracized.
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And they did this so consistently and went so insane with things like, you know, women playing or men playing in girls sports and all this.
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They turned their left-leaning Joe Rogan into right-leaning Joe Rogan.
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You know, a lot of people thought that when he talked about mass deportations, he wasn't being serious.
01:43:02.640
I don't know how many times he had to say it for people to realize he was being serious.
01:43:07.220
Well, if you thought he wasn't being serious, the appointment of Tom Homan today as border czar,
01:43:13.140
and he will be in charge of a mass deportation program, the largest the country has ever seen, they say.
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And now Stephen Miller, as Deputy Chief of Staff, should let you know that he was absolutely serious.
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And when you talk about mass deportations, people think, oh, it's just going to be the criminals.
01:43:31.260
There's not enough criminals, aliens in the federal prison system for it to be mass deportations.
01:43:54.860
And look, America, you know, those of you who voted for Trump, this is what you wanted.
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You screwed around and you're about to find out.
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If you're here illegally, you can go out and then come back in legally.
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You're going to be put to the back of the line.
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I have a problem with an open border where we don't know who anybody is.
01:44:33.680
Bill Clinton is the president who deported more people than anyone, any other president by far.
01:44:49.900
So I don't remember the 90s being internment camps.
01:44:55.260
In fact, the Democrats supported those policies at the time.
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The people in Mexico, remember there were 150,000 in Mexico that the Mexicans had held back
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because the Biden administration said don't let them cross, hold them until the election,
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Most of those people turned around and went away because they realized, oh, I'm not going in now.
01:45:24.680
Yeah, when you don't put up a giant sign that says, please come here, you generally speaking are going to solve a decent portion of the problem.
01:45:35.500
But, I mean, we saw this at the beginning of the Trump administration.
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When the tone was right, people just decided they didn't want to come.
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And, look, I love this pitch here of like, we're talking about grandmas.
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Grandmas that break the law get treated like regular, you know, grandsons that break the law.
01:46:01.440
If you're here illegally, you shouldn't be here.
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It doesn't matter what, you know, what level of maternity or paternity you've found yourself in.
01:46:12.620
The bottom line is, if you've broken the law by coming here, then, yes, you do need to leave.
01:46:19.860
I don't think anybody was downplaying how serious he was about kicking people out that were here illegally.
01:46:26.880
Well, then you were a moron, which makes sense because you're watching The View.
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Mar-a-Lago has basically been brimming for the last two days, I'm told, with two kinds of people.
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Those angling for a job and those who are trying to influence Trump into hiring their picks.
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Multiple sources tell me tonight that Musk has been seen at Mar-a-Lago nearly every single day since Donald Trump won.
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Today, they were seen on the golf course together.
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Musk has been in the room when world leaders have called Trump.
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Publicly, tonight, Elon Musk is backing Florida Senator Rick Scott as the next leader of the Republican conference to replace Mitch McConnell.
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There are so many good things that have happened.
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I mean, unless you listen to these kooks on the other side that are now just making stuff up.
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You know, we, we sucked at, at getting the vote out.
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Moms for Liberty is one of those organizations that really worked miracles.
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You've been, you've been spending some time down in Mar-a-Lago.
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So, um, so let's talk a little bit about the election wins that you guys helped come true.
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Yeah, it's, it's really remarkable, you know, Moms for Liberty, most of us, just moms haven't
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really been involved in politics before or elections.
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And so, uh, we took a big risk this year, I would say, and invested $3 million in Arizona,
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And we put the money behind our moms and to see what they could do.
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We targeted 200,000 moms in each state that aren't really voting.
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They voted maybe once, maybe not at all in the last four years.
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And, uh, we spent six months courting them, sending them videos and information on the
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Title IX rewrite, on things going on in their local school districts that would, uh, enrage
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And then for, you know, the last two months before the election, we worked to turn them
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For example, in Georgia, um, they, uh, broke records, I think with 73% voter turnout overall.
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And our early vote turnout alone of those 200,000 moms was 75%.
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So we don't even have a day of election results yet.
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So we know we activated brand new voters across all four states.
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Um, so you invested $3 million in your get out the vote, uh, effort, just in Arizona,
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Um, which state do you think you had the bigger impact in or were you worried most about?
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Um, I think we had the biggest impact in probably two states.
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I would say Georgia and, um, I'd say Georgia and North Carolina, Arizona being very close,
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Uh, there wasn't as long of an early voting period and a male voting period.
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And so, um, we still beat the state average, uh, before election day even started with our
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early voting, but it's, it was down by 40, you know, I think 46% we had our, of our, um,
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non-voters plus their voter records in Wisconsin are terrible.
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Uh, people, uh, people, we know people that left the state three years ago that were still
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registered there actively to vote while registered in other states.
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And so it's a little harder to track in Wisconsin.
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So, uh, tell me, um, your feeling on Trump actually getting rid of the department of
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You know, moms for liberty was founded to get education, uh, back front and center in
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the conversation, both locally and nationally, you know, year after year, we were watching
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presidential debates where education wasn't even discussed.
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And, uh, you know, it's been in decline since the department of education was created, you
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know, two thirds of American kids can't read on grade level, lowest math and reading scores
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And so the only solution is to dismantle the department of education.
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If you're watching on X and other places, uh, the president is putting out his videos,
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uh, directly speaking to the American people saying it's time to dismantle it and put education.
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I do want to say Glenn, though, I was even at church on Sunday and people were pulling,
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no, he can't really dismantle the department of education.
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And so, um, I think we have to educate America on what this really means.
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It is a good thing for our country and our kids.
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So let me give you, let me give you something from the Washington post in 1978.
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A department of education was the op-ed, uh, with a question mark.
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It didn't exactly come as an earth shaking surprise that president Carter last Friday
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asked Congress to create a department of education.
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The creation of such a department separate from, uh, Hugh, H E, uh, H E W was explicit
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Uh, it goes into all of this stuff and it said, um, uh, let's go back for a moment to
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the argument about, uh, zooming into the stratosphere budget.
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After all, the same argument can be made about the various armed services that were gathered
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Um, uh, they also talk about the labor department, the commerce department.
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We don't cite the labor and commerce departments casually to the extent that they are basically
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One of the principal risks of creating a creature of its clientele, the clientele would not necessarily
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be the school children and their parents affected by the federal government's education programs.
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Much more probably, uh, would be the national education association, the organizations of
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teachers and school administrators who already exert a great deal of influence on education
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In a way, this would be giving them their own department.
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So here's the Washington post in 1978 saying, this is going to create a problem with the labor
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They're going to take over and this is only to benefit them, not the kids.
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Now the Washington post would say the opposite, but what they predicted back then came true.
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Just look at the photographs of Randy Weingarten and other teachers union leaders at the white
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house all the time, hug in the neck of Jill Biden and Joe Biden.
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99% of the funds that they donate to candidates go to Democrats, um, coming out of the NEA.
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It is a department of the teachers union and it's not acceptable.
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I mean, like I said, you know, kids can't read, kids can't do math and, uh, it's time
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to dismantle it and return it where it needs to go.
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So you've decided, um, as moms for Liberty to launch your own book series, um, and try
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Your first one, uh, launches this week, uh, and it's, uh, Libby justice goes to Williamsburg.
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So Tiffany, my co-founder, her last name is justice.
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Uh, and so Liberty justice is the perfect name for our main character.
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Uh, we named him after my first grandson, his name is Lincoln and these two go on adventures
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and Glenn, we need quality literature so bad for our children.
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And the first one they go to is Williamsburg, Virginia.
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And she learned how to public speak from Patrick Henry and Gowan pamphlet.
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And if you don't know who he is, you need to buy our book because he's a historical figure,
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We're hoping this will be a series of many books and we'll be in link, uh, travel around
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with their family to other historical sites and learn about the Patriots and the founders
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of our country and have respect for them as the heroes that they are.
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I mean, in that I'm, I'm calling them the, the Trump fireside chats where he's explaining
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Um, he talks about this, that we have to bring under control our education system.
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Again, we learn about the principles of who we were, not just all this DEI crap that's
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Um, I, I think we're, I think we are entering a new golden age of America.
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If, if we remain calm and, uh, well thought out and well prepared for what the left is going
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And we stay focused on the things that are important.
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Don't get, as my mom would say, too big for our britches.
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You know, it's important that we stay focused on, on God and our country and the, on our
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families and, uh, don't let power or success or control of all three branches of government
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You know, I, I, I don't, I'm optimistically cautious, but I think it's important that we
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02:01:25.820
This is Oprah denying she's been paid by the Kamala campaign.
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Oh, is it true that they paid you a million dollars for the endorsement for Kamala?
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She looks like, I think most people look like when they just rolled out of bed and don't
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It's kind of really unfair to do this to people.
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Because it looks as though Harpo was paid a million dollars to produce that crappy thing
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I'm not an attorney, but she might have had to have been paid.
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So if she hasn't been paid, well, then you might, well, it might be a contribution in
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Like, so the way that that campaign finance law works, like it's not her saying you need
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Supposedly, at least the accusation is that her company produced it.
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And you might say, well, they should have just taken zero dollars if they really cared, but
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They supposedly have to, they have to charge a market rate for what they're doing.
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Because if not, then it's essentially a donation.
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Like, so they would have, every campaign would find ways around this, right?
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You can't, you can only give a certain amount to a campaign.
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Well, that would be a donation to the campaign.
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They're getting something that should cost them money that doesn't.
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So in theory, if she actually produced this event, she would need to charge.
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And the other side of this too is Oprah's a billionaire.
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Does she really care about a million dollar payment?
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Like, I think she would, she probably donated a fortune to super PACs, probably much more than
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I'm not saying that these people aren't selfish and terrible in many, many ways, but it seems
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Cause she did, I mean, she just didn't, she, she, she doesn't need the money.
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Now there's something interesting that I found that, you know, they blew a billion six.
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So that's what they had in the Harris victory fund.
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They they're in the whole 20 million and they're sending an,
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Is there anything we can say to convince you to make a contribution to support the
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First and foremost, we want to acknowledge the fear, confusion, and sadness.
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Many of you are feeling at this moment, but would you give a minimum of $50?
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But what if we told you, um, that as you read this, there are U S Senate and house races that
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are either too close to call or within the margin of recounts for certain legal challenges.
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What if we told you that they all need our help to get across the finish line?
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And what if we told you that your support today would help make sure we succeed and count every
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They're trying to make up the $20 million and they don't have it.
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Remember the last time in 2016, no, sorry, 2012, Obama went into the hole and why did the,
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uh, DNC suddenly throw their weight behind Hillary instead of Bernie?
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Because the Clintons bailed them out with like 20, uh, $20 million.
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Now they're 20 million in the hole after $1.6 billion and the nerve of the people on the
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left, they're saying, Donald Trump, he's got all this money left over.
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You can't, we, we got odd that because he's just going to give it to all of his friends.
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They said that about the green energy stuff too.
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Otherwise he'll just assign all of this money and give it to his pals.
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You know, of course, a lot of this money probably was just printed.
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You'd be just returning it, uh, to whoever created the incinerator.
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A lot of these programs would just be better off if you just threw them in the incinerator.
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If you just threw the money in the incinerator rather than locking in these programs for years
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and years and years and years and years, which is an incredible admission because at the end
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of the day, these programs do basically no good and then we get locked into them and have to keep
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spending at those levels, which brings me back to my skepticism on this government.
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What if we told you that Mussolini was coming back from the dead
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and was going to be his new vice vice president, would you donate then?